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<v Speaker 2>Welcome to the Stone Choir Podcast.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>I am Corey J.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>Mahler. And I'm</v>

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<v Speaker 3>still woe.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>On today's Stone Choir, we're going to be talking about truth and</v>

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<v Speaker 3>lies. This is a subject that we frequently visit.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>We've done a couple episodes entirely about portions of the truth.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>Uh, we did an episode early on on the clarity of scripture,</v>

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<v Speaker 3>and we did another one on speaking the truth plainly.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>Those are both within the first few months of Stone Choir.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>We're going to talk about different aspects of it today.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>The purpose of this episode about truth and lies</v>

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<v Speaker 3>is to demonstrate to you, dear listener, that the truth is a</v>

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<v Speaker 3>much broader category than you want to think it is.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>And the category of lies is also much broader than you want</v>

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<v Speaker 3>to think it is.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>And in the middle is the category of opinion, which is where</v>

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<v Speaker 3>everybody wants to live.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>We all want to hang out in the opinion zone where I</v>

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<v Speaker 3>think my thing and you think your thing, and we're okay.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>You know, somebody might be wrong, somebody might be in error, but</v>

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<v Speaker 3>you can't say that somebody's telling the truth and therefore the other</v>

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<v Speaker 3>man is lying if you disagrees, because it's a matter of disagreement</v>

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<v Speaker 3>and not a matter of truth and falsity.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>I'd like for you to picture a gradient where</v>

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<v Speaker 3>at one end you have the truth and it's a bright white</v>

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<v Speaker 3>light. That's where truth is located.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>That's how we we talk about truth with a capital T.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>We think of it as this metaphysical concept.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>It's this idealized perfected form of something, you know, goddess truth.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>It's one of the transcendentals, which I'm sure Corey will get into</v>

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<v Speaker 3>here in a bit.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>But that's got to be fairly small because it's about God, right?</v>

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<v Speaker 3>If God is truth, then only things that are God can be</v>

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<v Speaker 3>truth. And then we got all this other spectrum of who knows?</v>

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<v Speaker 3>it's people stuff.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>And so in the middle, that's where we have this huge chunk</v>

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<v Speaker 3>of opinions where it's not truth and it's not lies.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>It's just, yeah, some better ideas, some worse ideas, maybe they work,</v>

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<v Speaker 3>maybe they don't.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>It becomes subjective.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>And the reason that we all wallow in this pit of subjectivity</v>

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<v Speaker 3>today is that I think in part mass literacy has been a</v>

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<v Speaker 3>disaster and democracy has been a disaster.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>The intersection of those two things has created a circumstance today where</v>

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<v Speaker 3>every man feels like he has to have an opinion about everything</v>

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<v Speaker 3>and it really measures that he does.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>The problem with that is that most men aren't going to take</v>

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<v Speaker 3>the time to figure out if their opinions match with the truth.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>And they don't really care because you think, well, it's just I'm</v>

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<v Speaker 3>just gonna have a f an opinion and I'll read the a</v>

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<v Speaker 3>couple books that somebody recommended and I'll be on pretty good standing.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>The problem with that is that it doesn't actually reflect whether or</v>

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<v Speaker 3>not the belief that one then holds and espouses is actually true.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>Because remember, truth is sequestered way at the bright end of this</v>

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<v Speaker 3>gradient, where it's only God glowing so bright that you can't look</v>

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<v Speaker 3>at him.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>And then we're not really dealing with truth as men.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>We're dealing with the ideas and subjects, and some are better than</v>

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<v Speaker 3>others. That's where everybody is.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>That's our whole culture today is pure subjectivity.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>And a lot of it is governed by, well, I don't feel</v>

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<v Speaker 3>like that's good.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>I don't like the sound of that.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>How often do you see that directed at someone?</v>

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<v Speaker 3>If you look at dimensions to Corey and myself, it's rampant.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>Guys like, I don't like the sound of that.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>I think that sounds bad.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>Their emotional responses to factual claims.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>Stone Choir has, you know, this will be our eighty-fifth episode, I</v>

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<v Speaker 3>believe. We've never done a single episode about an opinion that we</v>

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<v Speaker 3>held We've had moments in various episodes where we express our opinions</v>

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<v Speaker 3>and we make it very clear within those moments: here's my opinion.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>My opinion is that Adam was a thousand years old when he</v>

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<v Speaker 3>died. Can't prove it.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>I can't assert that that's true.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>That's my opinion.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>But you'll know that that's something that's indifferent.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>It was an indifferent matter, just speculation, pious speculation, that would fill</v>

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<v Speaker 3>in a potential blank in the broader subject of evolution and all</v>

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<v Speaker 3>the rest.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>Everything that we said in the episode 6,000 Years and Counting was</v>

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<v Speaker 3>about true things.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>So we don't do episodes about things that are our opinions.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>I don't think that most people approach the world that way.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>I think most guys don't sequester their own views, you know, inside</v>

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<v Speaker 3>your head.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>You're just gonna share whatever you think.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>And people think, well, we're just sharing whatever we think.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>I think a whole lot of things that I would never put</v>

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<v Speaker 3>on an episode because it's not my place to talk about it.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>I don't want to assert something to you know tens of thousands</v>

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<v Speaker 3>of people that I can't back up.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>And if I do them, it's going to be a small portion</v>

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<v Speaker 3>of something.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>It's my opinion.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>But I would never hold it against you.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>So when we do an episode, it's about things that are true,</v>

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<v Speaker 3>that are demonstrable, that we make a reasoned case for.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>And then we also very carefully say, and we've said from the</v>

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<v Speaker 3>very beginning, don't take our word for it.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>We don't want you to just believe what some guy says, even</v>

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<v Speaker 3>if it's us, because it's a bad model.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>It's a bad model for pursuing truth.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>You don't acquire truth.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>You don't perceive truth by just rolling over a bunch of sources</v>

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<v Speaker 3>and glomming onto the ones that you like.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>If what we say is true, it will bear out in the</v>

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<v Speaker 3>test. When you look at scripture, when you look at reality, when</v>

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<v Speaker 3>you look at the reason presented, you will have to come to</v>

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<v Speaker 3>the conclusion that yeah, what we said was true.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>You may not like it, may make you uncomfortable.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>But either we're telling you the truth or we're lying.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>We're never gonna do anything here</v>

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<v Speaker 3>that you could just say we were wrong about.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>As one of the points we want to make by the end</v>

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<v Speaker 3>of this episode, the vast majority of what men deal with is</v>

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<v Speaker 3>either truth or it's lies.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>And this has spiritual import.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>This is not simply a question of having stronger opinions or being</v>

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<v Speaker 3>strident about beliefs.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>Ultimately, all truth comes from God.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>All truth, every truth.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>And we'll get into the one of the most pernicious lies that's</v>

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<v Speaker 3>going on today, where we have so-called Christians running around screaming, that's</v>

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<v Speaker 3>not the gospel.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>And we'll make the point, the when guy screams that's not the</v>

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<v Speaker 3>gospel, they're almost always attacking something that's true.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>If I tell you that African Americans are 120 times more likely</v>

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<v Speaker 3>to murder you than a white man, they'll say, That's not the</v>

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<v Speaker 3>gospel. That's racist.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>That makes me feel bad.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>I like the sound of that.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>The fact that it's true is immaterial to someone who doesn't like</v>

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<v Speaker 3>it. This is not Christian.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>This is not Christian behavior.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>There's a right and a wrong way to tell the truth.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>We would never say you just need to run around screaming true</v>

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<v Speaker 3>things all the time.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>We did an entire episode on persuasiveness matter saying a lot of</v>

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<v Speaker 3>times you just gotta keep your mouth shut, even if you know</v>

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<v Speaker 3>the truth.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>It's not enough just to be right, but you have to be</v>

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<v Speaker 3>able to do something positive with the truth.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>But if you're not sure, or if you're getting something wrong and</v>

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<v Speaker 3>someone reprimands you and corrects you and says, look, what you said</v>

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<v Speaker 3>was false, this is true.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>Maybe you were just mistaken before and you're confused.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>It happens.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>Happens all of us.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>That's fine.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>It's not fine, but it's a normal part of the human experience.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>When you hear the truth, if you then despise it and you</v>

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<v Speaker 3>double down in your hatred, then it is an unequivocal spiritual problem</v>

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<v Speaker 3>because Satan is the father of lies.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>This is not an incidental statement.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>And note that when Satan is described as the deceiver and as</v>

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<v Speaker 3>the father of lies, it is not the gospel that he is</v>

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<v Speaker 3>accused of deceiving men about.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>One of the very worst things about Protestantism is we continue to</v>

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<v Speaker 3>try to relitigate the Reformation.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>It's no longer a going concern.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>It is very rare that you will hear a man anywhere say</v>

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<v Speaker 3>I can</v>

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<v Speaker 3>save myself.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>Now it happens, absolutely happens.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>And when it does happen, when a man says, I don't think</v>

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<v Speaker 3>I need to believe in the right God, I think I'm just</v>

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<v Speaker 3>live a good life and I'm going to be saved.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>You find that outside the church.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>You don't find much of it inside the church.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>When that heresy comes up, yes, absolutely the Reformation arguments are irrelevant.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>The rest of the time, it's simply not.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>And so guys are running around pretending that these things are matters</v>

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<v Speaker 3>of opinion when it's fundamentally almost always either truth or lies.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>And the exhortation for this episode is take the truth more seriously,</v>

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<v Speaker 3>realize it's a much broader scope than you think.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>Take lies much more seriously than you do.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>And we'll demonstrate from scripture exactly what we mean by that.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>And then in the middle of that gradient, where you know you</v>

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<v Speaker 3>have the gray area that we've said in the mill's really big</v>

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<v Speaker 3>and it's a bunch of opinion, that needs to get a whole</v>

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<v Speaker 3>lot smaller because in reality it is.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>The things that are actually subjective, they're incidental.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>They're not important things.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>The things that are important necessarily have to be either be true</v>

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<v Speaker 3>or false.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>And the way that we define true or false in our daily</v>

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<v Speaker 3>lives is not remotely in accord with reality.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>Incidentally, reality and truth are synonymous.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>It's not a thing we're gonna get into today.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>So by the end of this, we hope that you will take</v>

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<v Speaker 3>away that maybe I should speak less, maybe I should be less</v>

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<v Speaker 3>confident in my opinions until I've actually sorted out whether they're true.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>Because just thinking something, if it's consequential, isn't sufficient for you to</v>

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<v Speaker 3>run around saying it.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>You can be wrong in your head.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>You're not going to hurt anyone else if you're wrong in your</v>

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<v Speaker 3>head. But when you're wrong in your head about something that's disprovable</v>

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<v Speaker 3>in reality, and then you go tell it to other people, you</v>

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<v Speaker 3>are becoming a false teacher.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>And it doesn't matter what your intent is.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>You're doing something terrible to everyone to whom you open your mouth.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>And we don't think that way.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>We don't take it seriously.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>Corey and I both take that deadly seriously.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>There's lots of things that we think that we don't say in</v>

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<v Speaker 3>public because they wouldn't be fruitful.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>And it's not a question of like shame or anything.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>It's just the things that are important, the things that are salient,</v>

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<v Speaker 3>are the things that are worth fighting for and fighting over.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>And the truth is that entire ground.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>That is the battlefield.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>The battlefield is reality.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>It's not simply the tiny, shiny, glowy truth of God Himself.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>It's not simply the gospel.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>Creation itself, reality itself, is truth.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>And every attack on that is a lie, and that is fundamentally</v>

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<v Speaker 3>spiritual in nature.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>I've mentioned this before, but it's worth mentioning again.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>This is not a philosophy podcast.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>That of course does not mean that we will not touch on</v>

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<v Speaker 2>philosophy from time to time.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>We will, of course, do that because what does philosophy mean?</v>

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<v Speaker 2>It is simply philosophia, the love of wisdom, and scripture speaks</v>

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<v Speaker 2>of wisdom in many places, and those verses should certainly come to</v>

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<v Speaker 2>mind when I mention that.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>But this is one of those episodes where, at least here at</v>

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<v Speaker 2>the outset, we will touch on philosophy just a little bit in</v>

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<v Speaker 2>order to couch what it is we are discussing and also to</v>

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<v Speaker 2>delineate what we are not discussing.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>Because this is not a philosophical discussion of truth and lies and</v>

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<v Speaker 2>falsity versus veracity and any of a number of related topics.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>We will get into that a little bit as we go simply</v>

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<v Speaker 2>because it is related to what we are discussing but to give</v>

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<v Speaker 2>you the foundation of the discussion, and for those who are somewhat</v>

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<v Speaker 2>familiar with the philosophy in this area, we are dealing primarily and</v>

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<v Speaker 2>almost exclusively in the correspondence theory of truth.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>And what the correspondence theory is in brief in short, and this</v>

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<v Speaker 2>is essentially the theory to which most philosophers, ancient philosophers subscribed, and</v>

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<v Speaker 2>also many moderns as well, with some caveats and some cases, but</v>

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<v Speaker 2>correspondence theory asserts that is true which corresponds with reality.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>Very simple definition, very easy to understand that.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>Something is true, a statement is true if it corresponds with reality.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>And so if I say right now, I am holding a pen,</v>

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<v Speaker 2>that statement is true because I am in fact holding a pen.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>Now you just have to believe me because this is not a</v>

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<v Speaker 2>video podcast, and nor will it ever be.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>But I am holding a pen.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>Very easy to believe that I'm doing that.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>That That statement corresponds with the reality, and so the statement is</v>

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<v Speaker 2>true. We are not dealing with any of the other various philosophical</v>

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<v Speaker 2>theories regarding truth.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>So we're not dealing with the coherence theory, for instance.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>I'll decline to describe that one because it's not relevant for what</v>

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<v Speaker 2>we are discussing here.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>Just focus on that first one.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>We are describing true statements as those which correspond to reality.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>So necessarily, something that does not correspond to reality is not true.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>It is false, it is a lie.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>With regard to lies, there are many different kinds of lies.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>I will put a an image in the show notes that will</v>

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<v Speaker 2>outline lies.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>I'll go over it very briefly here just to give you essentially</v>

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<v Speaker 2>a framework, a mental framework in which you can place some of</v>

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<v Speaker 2>these things.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>First and foremost, and essentially, there are two kinds of lies.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>You can either distort the truth or you can falsify.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>If you're falsifying, basically you're inventing or you're modifying that which otherwise</v>

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<v Speaker 2>would be true.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>If you're inventing it, you're creating something out of whole cloth, of</v>

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<v Speaker 2>course. Distortion would be minimization or exaggeration.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>You should start to understand there are many ways in which you</v>

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<v Speaker 2>can lie.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>There is essentially only one way in which you can tell the</v>

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<v Speaker 2>truth. The issue of intent is one that comes up throughout</v>

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<v Speaker 2>this episode obviously, but also throughout this entire issue when we deal</v>

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<v Speaker 2>with it in our daily lives.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>Intent is blown out of proportion in some cases.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>Too much is assigned to intent.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>Well and I were discussing this before we started recording.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>I think one good example of this that will resonate with those</v>

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<v Speaker 2>who have watched true crime shows or have an interest in the</v>

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<v Speaker 2>subject, certainly anyone who's been involved in law at all.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>Everyone seems to think, unless they have been trained to think correctly</v>

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<v Speaker 2>about this, that in order to be charged and convicted of murder,</v>

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<v Speaker 2>you have to intend to kill the person.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>You have to intend to kill the person in specific circumstances, because</v>

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<v Speaker 2>just killing the person isn't actually murder.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>But that's not the case.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>If, for instance, you intended to inflict grievous bodily injury and the</v>

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<v Speaker 2>person dies, that's still murder.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>So does intent matter?</v>

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, but does the intent necessarily have to be this specific intent</v>

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<v Speaker 2>to cause the specific outcome?</v>

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<v Speaker 2>No, the same is true with regard to lies.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>It doesn't necessarily have to be the case that you are intending</v>

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<v Speaker 2>to deceive for what you are saying to be a lie.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>It can be a lie if, for instance, you just have a</v>

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<v Speaker 2>reckless disregard for the truth.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>But with regard to intent, there are a number of different intents</v>

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<v Speaker 2>you can have behind a lie.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>You can intend something beneficial.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>It is possible to tell a lie that is for the good</v>

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<v Speaker 2>of another person, and we'll get into that later in the episode,</v>

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<v Speaker 2>but not all lies are necessarily harmful, and not all lies are</v>

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<v Speaker 2>necessarily wrongful Wrongful.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>There's, of course, neutral, and then there's deceptive, malicious, those intended to</v>

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<v Speaker 2>cause harm.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>The issue here of inadvertence or error should be raised.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>If you are simply in error, it isn't really a true lie.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>And this is just pure error.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>This is not you should have known.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>This is not if you had investigated, you would have known this</v>

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<v Speaker 2>is just you are simply an error, you make a misstatement.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>That's not really a lie.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>That's error.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>It's a misstatement.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>It is a different thing.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>It appears the same in many cases.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>It has a superficial similarity, but it is not the same thing,</v>

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<v Speaker 2>they are not identical.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>And then finally with regard to lies, there are the different means</v>

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<v Speaker 2>for how one lies, and that would be omission, you omit information</v>

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<v Speaker 2>in order to typically in that case deceive or mislead, commission, that</v>

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<v Speaker 2>is the affirmative lie, you are creating information, deliberately misstating, and then</v>

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<v Speaker 2>of course there's manipulation where you are often just carefully wording things</v>

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<v Speaker 2>in order to mislead the person, in order to get the other</v>

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<v Speaker 2>person to believe that which is false, even though technically you did</v>

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<v Speaker 2>not say anything false.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>That can still be a lie.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>It is possible to deceive someone with a very carefully worded truth.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>Your intent there is what truly matters, because that intent to deceive,</v>

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<v Speaker 2>even you using the truth is itself a kind of lie.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>You cannot do that.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>You don't get a free pass simply because, well, technically speaking, every</v>

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<v Speaker 2>word I said was true.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>That may fly in the civil courts, but we're not dealing with</v>

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<v Speaker 2>the civil law here.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>We're dealing with the moral law.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>We're dealing with the things of God.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>And there is a higher standard.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>That standard is not simply technically correct.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>That standard takes into account your intent.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>Why are you doing the thing?</v>

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<v Speaker 2>Why are you doing the thing the way you did the thing?</v>

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<v Speaker 2>All of these things matter with regard to truth or lies, truth</v>

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<v Speaker 2>or falsity.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>It's very clear just listening to other Christians talk today that Christians</v>

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<v Speaker 3>don't think the they're liars.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>They don't think that they really can lie.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>Like sure.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>If you lie, you know what sort of lie.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>It's gonna be one of those an example that Corey gave.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>Or, you know, if someone gives you the wrong change at the</v>

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<v Speaker 3>store, they give you too much money.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>If you are going to always return that change, you're an honest</v>

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<v Speaker 3>man. That's defrauding.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>It's a type of lie, not with your lips, but with your</v>

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<v Speaker 3>actions, with your silence, you've actually told a lie by receiving change</v>

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<v Speaker 3>when you knew that you got a twenty instead of a one.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>Christian Christians draw the line there and say, well, okay, I would</v>

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<v Speaker 3>never do that.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>I'm an honest man because I wouldn't do that stuff.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>The problem is that while it's true that what Corey just said</v>

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<v Speaker 3>is absolutely correct, it's entirely possible for an honest man to be</v>

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<v Speaker 3>mistaken, and therefore the thing that he said was not him lying.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>It does not therefore follow that the thing that the man said</v>

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<v Speaker 3>is not a lie.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>Because the content of what a man said, you know, typically, again,</v>

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<v Speaker 3>we're talking about these big ticket items that are going around in</v>

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<v Speaker 3>the world.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>People are getting their ideas from somewhere else.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>Men are not originating their own ideas.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>They're very few actual thinkers in the world.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>Everybody pretty much just passes around whatever they heard on a podcast</v>

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<v Speaker 3>or they saw in a tweet or read in an article, heard</v>

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<v Speaker 3>in a sermon, they got it from somewhere else.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>And so when they repeat it, their intent is completely, you know,</v>

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<v Speaker 3>honest, assume for the sake of generosity.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>Doesn't mean that the intent of the originator was necessarily the same.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>And there are many, many cases.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>We've demonstrated over and over again.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>When you look at the genealogy of many of the ideas floating</v>

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<v Speaker 3>around, they're lies.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>Racism was a lie that was invented just over a hundred years</v>

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<v Speaker 3>ago. It's an absolute lie.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>And it was told for the specific purpose of destroying Western nations.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>And yet today it's a lie that you hear on almost every</v>

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<v Speaker 3>Christian's lips.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>In good conscience, they're doing what they've been taught to do.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>And so what Corey said is correct.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>I wouldn't necessarily call someone who's running around calling people racist a</v>

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<v Speaker 3>liar. It depends.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>Many of them are, but some of them are well meaning people</v>

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<v Speaker 3>who are engaging in what they believe is moral behavior.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>The problem is that what they're saying is itself a lie.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>And when you look at the genealogy of what they're saying, it's</v>

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<v Speaker 3>clear that it's a lie.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>And so that's where the truth versus lie thing comes into this.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>It's not a matter of opinion.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>When you look at the origin of the invention of racism just</v>

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<v Speaker 3>over a hundred years ago, there can be no possible doubt that</v>

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<v Speaker 3>this is a new creation of a new sin.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>And therefore, that all by itself means it cannot be Christian morality.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>And so when you work through all those things, you work through</v>

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<v Speaker 3>the historical facts, you make all the arguments, an honest man will</v>

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<v Speaker 3>say, I was wrong.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>I was saying these things I said in good conscience, I personally</v>

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<v Speaker 3>did. I used to call things racist.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>I was more racist, so-called, than most people, even before I figured</v>

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<v Speaker 3>this stuff out.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>But I had a lot of sensibilities about things that are completely</v>

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<v Speaker 3>gone now.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>Not because I want to be meaner, but because I realize that</v>

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<v Speaker 3>that lie, that specific payload of deception was inserted into the zeitgeist.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>It's everywhere, it's in sermons, it's on every TV show.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>You cannot get away from it.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>Specifically because of the payload that it delivers when it lands.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>So once you realize that a Christian can be a liar because</v>

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<v Speaker 3>of what they're doing without their intent, the passages in scripture talking</v>

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<v Speaker 3>about liars suddenly we realize they apply to us too.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>When we tell things that are false regardless of our intentions, we</v>

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<v Speaker 3>become liars because it's not something we originated.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>I think that's a problem.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>I think that when Christians think I'm not a liar, I don't</v>

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<v Speaker 3>make things up, well okay, that's the origination question.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>If you're not originating new thoughts that are deceptive, Christians think that</v>

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<v Speaker 3>means you're in the clear.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>But where are you getting all the stuff that you are spreading?</v>

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<v Speaker 3>When you're spreading, you know, whatever on Facebook or wherever else, if</v>

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<v Speaker 3>the things that you're saying do not accord with the truth and</v>

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<v Speaker 3>they're demonstrably lies, you're not off the hook because it wasn't your</v>

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<v Speaker 3>idea. It just means that yeah, you have an opinion about something</v>

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<v Speaker 3>you don't understand.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>And as I said, the worst thing is that once someone is</v>

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<v Speaker 3>confronted with the truth, when someone says, hey, look, you need to</v>

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<v Speaker 3>understand that what you're doing in good conscience is actually an evil</v>

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<v Speaker 3>act, your your intent was not evil, but the act of spreading</v>

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<v Speaker 3>this lie is evil.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>They get indignant.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>I can't be a liar, I'm not lying, I didn't make anything</v>

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<v Speaker 3>up. I'm saying exactly what my pastor said.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>How can I be lying?</v>

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<v Speaker 3>Well, okay, you're a papist.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>Like that's not the root of a thought.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>The root of authority is truth.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>The root of authority is reality, which accords with God.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>When God created creation and made reality, it's all true.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>It's a dumb thing to say.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>It's how to logical, but it's because it's so intrinsic.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>In the war that we see in the world today where guys</v>

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<v Speaker 3>call things lib-tarded and woke, we constantly rail against that sort of</v>

00:23:32.880 --> 00:23:38.400
<v Speaker 3>nonsense, derogatory name-calling about it because it hides the fact that it's</v>

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<v Speaker 3>real evil.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>There's actual evil in the world that seems ridiculous if you don't</v>

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<v Speaker 3>understand its spiritual nature.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>And then once you understand the spiritual nature of those attacks on</v>

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<v Speaker 3>reality, some people will correctly identify without, you know, having thought about</v>

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<v Speaker 3>it too deeply.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>They'll say the left is at war with reality.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>That's something that it's fairly common for people to say some variation</v>

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<v Speaker 3>of that.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>And that is true.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>The problem is I think they don't really correctly understand what reality</v>

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<v Speaker 3>is. It's not simply that they're at war with reality as though</v>

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<v Speaker 3>they're a crazy person that's having delusions.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>They're actually quite literally at war against creation itself, which is why</v>

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<v Speaker 3>we have men and women defiling their bodies, trying to turn themselves</v>

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<v Speaker 3>into the opposite sex.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>Nevermind the fact that every cell in your body has the sex</v>

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<v Speaker 3>with which God created you.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>You can't get away from it.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>If you're a man, you have a man's skeleton forever.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>You have a man's brain forever.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>You have a man's hips forever.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>You have a man's skin forever.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>Every aspect of our bodies has elements that are intrinsic to both</v>

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<v Speaker 3>our sex and our race, as we've talked in other episodes.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>The left is at war with that.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>The left is at war with creation as God created it.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>And so when we say they're at war with reality, it's because</v>

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<v Speaker 3>they are deceivers who are seeking to invert everything.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>They're seeking to invert creation because it's a war against God.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>And as we've said in numerous occasions, the Protestant desire to continue</v>

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<v Speaker 3>to relitigate the Reformation means that we keep going back to the</v>

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<v Speaker 3>toolbox that has no arguments, no weapons against the new battles.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>Satan is not attacking how we're saved.</v>

00:25:23.280 --> 00:25:25.600
<v Speaker 3>Satan is attacking how we're created.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>It's a different question.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>It's a different tack.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>And the difference that we are seeing today is that the world</v>

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<v Speaker 3>and the church are almost in perfect harmony and agreement with the</v>

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<v Speaker 3>attacks on creation.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>And even the scattershot collection of conservative Christian bodies that are trying</v>

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<v Speaker 3>to hang on to some semblance of creation, they have been divorced</v>

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<v Speaker 3>from the underlying philosophical underpinnings that are necessary to actually defend it.</v>

00:25:53.840 --> 00:25:56.800
<v Speaker 3>Which is why we've done episode on the sexes, did an episode</v>

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<v Speaker 3>on marriage itself.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>Once you understand the ontological reality of those things, the arguments about</v>

00:26:03.040 --> 00:26:05.840
<v Speaker 3>the political and the religious get a lot simpler.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>Once you understand that God did this specific thing, He made you,</v>

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<v Speaker 3>He made me, and He made us different.</v>

00:26:12.240 --> 00:26:15.040
<v Speaker 3>I am created mostly English.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>Corey is created mostly German.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>Each of you is created mostly something or other.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>That's how God did it.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>He did all these various things in all these various ways because</v>

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<v Speaker 3>that's who he is.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>It's amazing.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>There's seemingly infinite variety in the world in all things.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>Now you can look at a pet and just look at its</v>

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<v Speaker 3>fur. And every single hair is different, different lengths, different colors, different</v>

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<v Speaker 3>shapes. It's incredibly fascinating and beautiful.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>God puts that kind of attention to detail in the smallest places</v>

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<v Speaker 3>because He loves variety.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>So there's no despising of diversity to point out that things are</v>

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<v Speaker 3>different. When you approach things from the perspective that to despise reality,</v>

00:26:55.520 --> 00:27:00.000
<v Speaker 3>to despise the created truth of the world is actually an attack</v>

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<v Speaker 3>on God, then the admonition that you become a liar when you</v>

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<v Speaker 3>do that involves all the passages in scripture that deal directly with</v>

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<v Speaker 3>us being liars.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>So I'll give you just a few examples here because they're dire.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>This is not small stuff.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>In Proverbs twelve is written, lying lips are an abomination to the</v>

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<v Speaker 3>Lord, but he who acts faithfully is acceptable to him.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>Psalm one hundred one No one who practices deceit shall dwell in</v>

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<v Speaker 3>my house, no one who utters lies shall continue before my eyes.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>Matthew five talks about in the Beatitudes Jesus describing when lies are</v>

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<v Speaker 3>directed at us blessed are you when others revile you and persecute</v>

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<v Speaker 3>you, and utter all kinds of evil against you falsely on my</v>

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<v Speaker 3>account. How often do we see that in the world?</v>

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<v Speaker 3>Where someone is targeted and they're picked out and they're selected for</v>

00:27:51.120 --> 00:27:54.800
<v Speaker 3>that sort of evil and reviling and persecution because they told the</v>

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<v Speaker 3>truth about God.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>We see it in lots of cases.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>Guys who will go to bat correctly against the sodomy agenda, against</v>

00:28:02.800 --> 00:28:06.320
<v Speaker 3>the transgender agenda, there are lots of guys who have paid the</v>

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<v Speaker 3>price for defending different aspects of God's created order.</v>

00:28:10.320 --> 00:28:13.840
<v Speaker 3>Unfortunately, it's almost impossible to find someone who would go to bat</v>

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<v Speaker 3>for all of it.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>Because often the very same guys who will rail against sodomy correctly</v>

00:28:19.280 --> 00:28:23.040
<v Speaker 3>then scream racist and scream Nazi in the other direction.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>See, they understand that when they're receiving the reviling for Christ's sake,</v>

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<v Speaker 3>because they've said one thing that's true about creation.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>All right, I'm good, not a liar, I'm standing up for Jesus,</v>

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<v Speaker 3>my reward is great in heaven.</v>

00:28:34.320 --> 00:28:36.800
<v Speaker 3>And then they turn right around, they see another man who's defending</v>

00:28:36.800 --> 00:28:40.000
<v Speaker 3>a different part of creation that they don't understand, that they've been</v>

00:28:40.000 --> 00:28:42.400
<v Speaker 3>catechized to believe falsely about about.</v>

00:28:42.400 --> 00:28:45.600
<v Speaker 3>And they spread exactly the same kind of hatred that they were</v>

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<v Speaker 3>just receiving.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>And everyone thinks that these are just like matters of opinion and</v>

00:28:50.240 --> 00:28:52.480
<v Speaker 3>it's personality conflicts and all that stuff.</v>

00:28:52.480 --> 00:28:53.040
<v Speaker 3>It's not.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>It's about what is true and what is false.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>And the truth is usually easy to discern.</v>

00:28:58.720 --> 00:29:00.640
<v Speaker 3>The truth is not that tricky.</v>

00:29:00.640 --> 00:29:03.680
<v Speaker 3>As one of the messages of this episode, the truth is a</v>

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<v Speaker 3>broad thing.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>It is not confined to God.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>The truth is all things that are real, and some of them</v>

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<v Speaker 3>are bad.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>Like truth doesn't mean wonderful.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>It is true that you will die.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>Why will you die?</v>

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<v Speaker 3>You're sentenced to death because of the sins of your father.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>Every one of us has the father Adam who sinned against God.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>He is our head.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>We inherit his sin.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>We're punished because of that, and that's the truth.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>We can't get mad at it.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>We can't have an emotional reaction.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>We can't say, God, you're so mean, that's not fair.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>We say, okay, that's really bad news.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>What's the fix?</v>

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<v Speaker 3>And that's when the gospel comes in.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>Another passage that is frequently used about love actually contains something at</v>

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<v Speaker 3>the end about truth that I don't think think people usually pick</v>

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<v Speaker 3>up on.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>First Corinthians thirteen.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>Love is patient and kind.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>Love does not envy or boast.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>It is not arrogant or rude.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>It does not insist on its own way.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>It is not irritable or resentful.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>It does not rejoice at wrongdoing, but rejoices in the truth.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>So this love passage lists a whole bunch of things that love</v>

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<v Speaker 3>isn't. And what's the one thing that it says love is at</v>

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<v Speaker 3>the end?</v>

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<v Speaker 3>Love rejoices in the truth.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>You may say that you don't fit any of those things, you</v>

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<v Speaker 3>don't boast, you're not irritable, therefore you have love.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>Do you rejoice in the truth?</v>

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<v Speaker 3>Because if you drop that end of the sentence, you don't have</v>

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<v Speaker 3>the true love that God's talking about.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>It's an impossible test.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>No one can pass all of it perfectly, which is why Christ</v>

00:30:32.960 --> 00:30:34.400
<v Speaker 3>lived the perfect life.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>Again, that's the gospel.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>This is not a setup for us to try to earn our</v>

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<v Speaker 3>salvation, but it's a reminder that when you start looking for truth</v>

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<v Speaker 3>and lies in Scripture, you're going to find that you are condemned.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>You should.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>If we say we have no sin, we deceive ourselves and the</v>

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<v Speaker 3>truth is not in us.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>We should rejoice in all truth, all of it.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>We should rejoice in everything that is true.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>Truth is not just about the gospel.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>It's much bigger than that.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>The Christian approach of trying to make everything about the narrow confines</v>

00:31:04.080 --> 00:31:07.440
<v Speaker 3>of John 3.16 Is not a Christian approach at all.</v>

00:31:07.440 --> 00:31:10.560
<v Speaker 3>And it's a deadly error that we're facing today.</v>

00:31:10.560 --> 00:31:14.160
<v Speaker 3>Because if that's the only thing you can rejoice in, then you're</v>

00:31:14.160 --> 00:31:16.800
<v Speaker 3>free to be wrong about all these other things because they don't</v>

00:31:16.720 --> 00:31:19.200
<v Speaker 3>matter. I don't have to rejoice in the truth of how I'm</v>

00:31:19.200 --> 00:31:22.480
<v Speaker 3>made. I rejoice in the truth about how Jesus died for me.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>And we do.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>That is the most important thing that we've ever been told that</v>

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<v Speaker 3>Jesus died for us.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>But it is not the only thing in our lives.</v>

00:31:30.640 --> 00:31:32.320
<v Speaker 3>It's not the only thing in the universe.</v>

00:31:32.320 --> 00:31:34.560
<v Speaker 3>We were created for a purpose.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>That's the truth.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>If we don't love all the things about that, we are not</v>

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<v Speaker 3>fulfilling the command of love that God gives</v>

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us. When

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<v Speaker 2>an author writes a book, within that book, within the world created</v>

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<v Speaker 2>in that book, the author creates a set of truths.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>Now, if the author is skilled, those things will be coherent.</v>

00:31:58.960 --> 00:32:02.160
<v Speaker 2>There will be a lack of contradictions.</v>

00:32:02.160 --> 00:32:06.160
<v Speaker 2>That is not always the case for human authors.</v>

00:32:06.160 --> 00:32:10.240
<v Speaker 2>God does not have the limitation of human authors, of course, and</v>

00:32:10.240 --> 00:32:13.920
<v Speaker 2>so when God writes a book, there are no contradictions.</v>

00:32:13.920 --> 00:32:18.080
<v Speaker 2>Everything in scripture, for instance, is true.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>To give an example that will work for many of those listening</v>

00:32:22.960 --> 00:32:26.800
<v Speaker 2>because you may have read the novels when you were children, or</v>

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<v Speaker 2>had them read to you, you may have read them to your</v>

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<v Speaker 2>own children.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>If I were to tell you that Aslan from C.</v>

00:32:33.920 --> 00:32:37.280
<v Speaker 2>S. Lewis's books was a good was a goat.</v>

00:32:37.280 --> 00:32:40.080
<v Speaker 2>I would be lying about what C.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>S. Lewis wrote.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>Because of course Aslan is a lion representing Christ.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>I don't feel that's a spoiler for anyone who's read those books.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>That should be obvious.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>With regard to the work of CS Lewis, if I lie about</v>

00:32:55.520 --> 00:33:00.080
<v Speaker 2>something that he wrote, yes it's a lie.</v>

00:33:00.080 --> 00:33:02.080
<v Speaker 2>It's a fairly minor one, though.</v>

00:33:02.080 --> 00:33:04.000
<v Speaker 2>He's a human author.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>That series of books is not of the utmost importance to anything,</v>

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<v Speaker 2>really. I'm not saying it's a bad series, I'm not saying it's</v>

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<v Speaker 2>particularly good series, I'm not saying anything about it with regard to</v>

00:33:14.000 --> 00:33:17.440
<v Speaker 2>quality, I'm simply saying it is a series of books written by</v>

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<v Speaker 2>a human author, and whether you speak the truth about it, or</v>

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<v Speaker 2>lie about it, does matter but not that much.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>The same cannot be said He said with regard to God's books,</v>

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<v Speaker 2>and yes I do mean the plural.</v>

00:33:32.320 --> 00:33:37.520
<v Speaker 2>If you lie about what is contained in Scripture, every single Christian</v>

00:33:37.520 --> 00:33:41.600
<v Speaker 2>recognizes that is a grave sin, at least every Christian should recognize</v>

00:33:41.680 --> 00:33:44.080
<v Speaker 2>that is a grave sin.</v>

00:33:44.080 --> 00:33:45.680
<v Speaker 2>And so when you have</v>

00:33:46.800 --> 00:33:51.920
<v Speaker 2>supposed pastors who stand up and try to excuse sodomites, and try</v>

00:33:51.920 --> 00:33:56.400
<v Speaker 2>to explain away the passages that condemn them, that's lying about God's</v>

00:33:56.400 --> 00:34:03.680
<v Speaker 2>word. We all recognize that is grave sin, that is extreme wickedness,</v>

00:34:03.680 --> 00:34:07.440
<v Speaker 2>that is an abomination, both the defense of the thing and the</v>

00:34:07.440 --> 00:34:08.800
<v Speaker 2>thing itself.</v>

00:34:08.800 --> 00:34:11.440
<v Speaker 2>But God wrote two books.</v>

00:34:11.440 --> 00:34:14.080
<v Speaker 2>Vitally important to remember this.</v>

00:34:14.080 --> 00:34:18.560
<v Speaker 2>The first, and most important, is creation.</v>

00:34:18.560 --> 00:34:24.080
<v Speaker 2>Scripture is second, because it Because again, I will remind you, what</v>

00:34:24.320 --> 00:34:28.800
<v Speaker 2>does God say about himself to what does he appeal as an</v>

00:34:28.800 --> 00:34:32.640
<v Speaker 2>example of his greatness when he speaks to Job in the book</v>

00:34:32.640 --> 00:34:33.680
<v Speaker 2>of Job?</v>

00:34:33.680 --> 00:34:35.600
<v Speaker 2>He appeals to creation.</v>

00:34:35.600 --> 00:34:38.480
<v Speaker 2>He does not appeal to his written word.</v>

00:34:38.480 --> 00:34:42.080
<v Speaker 2>In fact, that is pretty much what God always does.</v>

00:34:42.080 --> 00:34:46.640
<v Speaker 2>He appeals to his greatness as revealed in creation.</v>

00:34:47.440 --> 00:34:50.080
<v Speaker 2>Yes, every word of Scripture is true.</v>

00:34:50.080 --> 00:34:54.160
<v Speaker 2>Yes, Scripture is of the utmost importance for Christians.</v>

00:34:54.160 --> 00:34:59.200
<v Speaker 2>But creation also contains truth because creation also is truth, because again</v>

00:34:59.360 --> 00:35:02.400
<v Speaker 2>creation is God's first book.</v>

00:35:02.400 --> 00:35:08.080
<v Speaker 2>Every single thing written in the book of creation is true.</v>

00:35:08.080 --> 00:35:13.600
<v Speaker 2>And so when you speak falsely about creation, when you lie about</v>

00:35:13.600 --> 00:35:18.480
<v Speaker 2>creation, you are doing the same thing as if you lied about</v>

00:35:18.480 --> 00:35:23.360
<v Speaker 2>what is contained in the pages of scripture.</v>

00:35:23.360 --> 00:35:27.680
<v Speaker 2>So if you say that sodomy is not a sin, that oh</v>

00:35:27.760 --> 00:35:33.440
<v Speaker 2>it's actually about lack of hospitality, it's about not being welcoming to</v>

00:35:33.440 --> 00:35:38.480
<v Speaker 2>sojourners and strangers, instead of sexual sin, that's not what the story</v>

00:35:38.480 --> 00:35:40.400
<v Speaker 2>of Sodom and Gomorrah actually is.</v>

00:35:40.400 --> 00:35:43.040
<v Speaker 2>If you say that, that's a wicked lie.</v>

00:35:43.040 --> 00:35:45.680
<v Speaker 2>You are lying about God's word.</v>

00:35:46.160 --> 00:35:50.880
<v Speaker 2>With regard to creation, if you say the races of men don't</v>

00:35:50.880 --> 00:35:52.240
<v Speaker 2>really Don't really exist.</v>

00:35:52.240 --> 00:35:53.120
<v Speaker 2>They're all equal.</v>

00:35:53.120 --> 00:35:53.840
<v Speaker 2>There's no difference.</v>

00:35:53.840 --> 00:35:55.280
<v Speaker 2>We're all the same.</v>

00:35:55.280 --> 00:35:59.040
<v Speaker 2>You are doing the exact same thing as the one who attempts</v>

00:35:59.040 --> 00:36:02.960
<v Speaker 2>to lie about how God views sodomites.</v>

00:36:02.960 --> 00:36:05.360
<v Speaker 2>You are committing the same sin.</v>

00:36:05.360 --> 00:36:11.280
<v Speaker 2>In fact, the second one, lying about creation, may very well have</v>

00:36:11.280 --> 00:36:14.800
<v Speaker 2>worse consequences longitudinally than the first.</v>

00:36:14.800 --> 00:36:18.240
<v Speaker 2>In this case it may be debatable because they're both horrible.</v>

00:36:18.240 --> 00:36:24.320
<v Speaker 2>But lying about creation is still lying about God.</v>

00:36:24.320 --> 00:36:27.440
<v Speaker 2>And in fact, what is lying about God?</v>

00:36:27.440 --> 00:36:31.680
<v Speaker 2>Particularly if you are doing it with intent, but even without intent.</v>

00:36:31.680 --> 00:36:34.720
<v Speaker 2>Lying about God is blasphemy.</v>

00:36:34.720 --> 00:36:38.960
<v Speaker 2>What we're talking about here is violating the first table of the</v>

00:36:38.960 --> 00:36:40.720
<v Speaker 2>Ten Commandments.</v>

00:36:40.720 --> 00:36:44.880
<v Speaker 2>You are not permitted to have another God, you are not permitted</v>

00:36:44.880 --> 00:36:49.360
<v Speaker 2>to speak falsely about God, and that includes the things of God</v>

00:36:49.520 --> 00:36:51.520
<v Speaker 2>and the things created by God.</v>

00:36:51.520 --> 00:36:55.520
<v Speaker 2>And so as Christians we must speak truthfully about creation.</v>

00:36:56.400 --> 00:37:00.720
<v Speaker 2>As Woe was saying, many of these things that are supposedly opinions</v>

00:37:00.960 --> 00:37:03.280
<v Speaker 2>are not in fact opinions.</v>

00:37:03.280 --> 00:37:11.440
<v Speaker 2>They are matters of truth or falsity, of truth or Lies.</v>

00:37:11.440 --> 00:37:15.760
<v Speaker 2>Whether or not you like strawberry ice cream is a matter of</v>

00:37:15.760 --> 00:37:21.040
<v Speaker 2>opinion. How you feel about a particular flavor of ice cream is</v>

00:37:21.040 --> 00:37:22.640
<v Speaker 2>not very meaningful.</v>

00:37:22.640 --> 00:37:24.400
<v Speaker 2>It may have some meaning for you.</v>

00:37:24.400 --> 00:37:26.720
<v Speaker 2>It may have some meaning for those who care about you and</v>

00:37:26.720 --> 00:37:29.280
<v Speaker 2>want to get the thing you like for you, if they're picking</v>

00:37:29.280 --> 00:37:32.240
<v Speaker 2>up ice cream at the store or the shop, whatever it happens</v>

00:37:32.240 --> 00:37:32.880
<v Speaker 2>to be.</v>

00:37:32.880 --> 00:37:35.840
<v Speaker 2>It's not that it doesn't matter, it matters.</v>

00:37:35.840 --> 00:37:37.200
<v Speaker 2>But it's a minor matter.</v>

00:37:37.840 --> 00:37:40.080
<v Speaker 2>It matters in a small sense.</v>

00:37:40.080 --> 00:37:41.680
<v Speaker 2>That's a matter of opinion.</v>

00:37:41.680 --> 00:37:44.320
<v Speaker 2>Things like that are matters of opinion.</v>

00:37:44.320 --> 00:37:48.080
<v Speaker 2>They're matters of opinion because they actually don't really matter.</v>

00:37:48.080 --> 00:37:53.600
<v Speaker 2>Things that are matters of the truth always matter, because they are</v>

00:37:53.600 --> 00:37:54.800
<v Speaker 2>more important.</v>

00:37:54.800 --> 00:37:58.640
<v Speaker 2>They are grander things, they are the things of God.</v>

00:37:58.640 --> 00:38:03.120
<v Speaker 2>So again, if you lie about the reality of human race, you're</v>

00:38:03.120 --> 00:38:04.480
<v Speaker 2>lying about God.</v>

00:38:04.480 --> 00:38:09.680
<v Speaker 2>If you lie about the reality of human sex, male and female,</v>

00:38:09.680 --> 00:38:11.920
<v Speaker 2>man and woman, you're lying about God.</v>

00:38:11.920 --> 00:38:17.280
<v Speaker 2>You're lying about his creation, you are blaspheming the Creator.</v>

00:38:17.280 --> 00:38:20.800
<v Speaker 2>These are matters of the utmost importance.</v>

00:38:20.800 --> 00:38:25.200
<v Speaker 2>Because lying about God, and particularly lying about God in God's name,</v>

00:38:25.680 --> 00:38:31.200
<v Speaker 2>as so many modern pastors do and modern teachers, that's abominable.</v>

00:38:31.200 --> 00:38:34.160
<v Speaker 2>That is high-handed impenitent sin.</v>

00:38:34.160 --> 00:38:37.680
<v Speaker 2>And yes, that is the case even if you are in error</v>

00:38:37.760 --> 00:38:42.080
<v Speaker 2>and believe wrongly because you have a duty as a teacher to</v>

00:38:42.080 --> 00:38:46.640
<v Speaker 2>investigate the truth and to teach correctly.</v>

00:38:46.640 --> 00:38:50.000
<v Speaker 2>Teachers are held to a higher standard.</v>

00:38:50.000 --> 00:38:54.720
<v Speaker 2>Teachers and pastors, because of course pastors are also teachers, teachers will</v>

00:38:54.720 --> 00:38:57.280
<v Speaker 2>receive the stricter judgment.</v>

00:38:57.280 --> 00:39:00.720
<v Speaker 2>Because if you take up the mantle of teaching, you have a</v>

00:39:00.720 --> 00:39:03.280
<v Speaker 2>duty to teach correctly.</v>

00:39:03.280 --> 00:39:06.160
<v Speaker 2>And you may say, Well, I was just in error, I didn't</v>

00:39:06.080 --> 00:39:08.160
<v Speaker 2>know, I d it doesn't matter.</v>

00:39:08.160 --> 00:39:11.200
<v Speaker 2>Why did you take up the mantle of teaching if you did</v>

00:39:11.200 --> 00:39:16.000
<v Speaker 2>not have the capacity to discern that which is true and false?</v>

00:39:16.000 --> 00:39:20.880
<v Speaker 2>Whether or not God has given you the talents, the abilities necessary,</v>

00:39:20.880 --> 00:39:26.560
<v Speaker 2>the capacity needed in order to teach, is a matter of true</v>

00:39:26.560 --> 00:39:27.920
<v Speaker 2>or false.</v>

00:39:27.920 --> 00:39:31.120
<v Speaker 2>Either you have those things, or you do not.</v>

00:39:31.120 --> 00:39:36.160
<v Speaker 2>If you do not have them, attempting to exercise them is wrongful,</v>

00:39:36.160 --> 00:39:37.360
<v Speaker 2>is sinful.</v>

00:39:37.360 --> 00:39:41.280
<v Speaker 2>This is one of those matters that is sometimes difficult for people</v>

00:39:41.280 --> 00:39:44.480
<v Speaker 2>to understand, so let me give an analogy.</v>

00:39:44.480 --> 00:39:47.920
<v Speaker 2>Let me compare it to something that will make it very obvious,</v>

00:39:47.920 --> 00:39:50.720
<v Speaker 2>very straightforward.</v>

00:39:50.720 --> 00:39:55.280
<v Speaker 2>All gifts, particularly spiritual gifts, but of course all gifts flow from</v>

00:39:55.280 --> 00:39:59.040
<v Speaker 2>God. Your height is from God.</v>

00:39:59.040 --> 00:40:01.840
<v Speaker 2>Your intelligence is from God.</v>

00:40:01.840 --> 00:40:05.680
<v Speaker 2>Everything you have is a gift from God.</v>

00:40:05.680 --> 00:40:11.120
<v Speaker 2>Every good and perfect gift flows down from heaven from God.</v>

00:40:11.120 --> 00:40:17.040
<v Speaker 2>And so, if you have intelligence and eloquence and all these things</v>

00:40:17.040 --> 00:40:20.720
<v Speaker 2>that teachers are supposed to have, well that's a gift from God,</v>

00:40:20.720 --> 00:40:24.400
<v Speaker 2>and you should use those to the glory of God.</v>

00:40:24.400 --> 00:40:27.440
<v Speaker 2>And some will think, well, these are things that perhaps you can</v>

00:40:27.440 --> 00:40:30.160
<v Speaker 2>learn and to some degree perhaps.</v>

00:40:30.160 --> 00:40:31.600
<v Speaker 2>Some of them no.</v>

00:40:31.600 --> 00:40:35.520
<v Speaker 2>Intelligence is hardwired, you can't learn intelligence.</v>

00:40:35.520 --> 00:40:39.760
<v Speaker 2>Discernment is largely a spiritual gift, you can't learn that.</v>

00:40:39.760 --> 00:40:43.440
<v Speaker 2>You can train that gift, certainly, to the degree you've been given</v>

00:40:43.440 --> 00:40:47.440
<v Speaker 2>it. But to give you that promised analogy, the</v>

00:40:48.800 --> 00:40:51.200
<v Speaker 2>Prophecy is a gift from God.</v>

00:40:51.440 --> 00:40:54.960
<v Speaker 2>Whether or not you are a prophet, and probably no one to</v>

00:40:54.960 --> 00:40:58.320
<v Speaker 2>whom I am currently speaking, or perhaps no one who will ever</v>

00:40:58.320 --> 00:41:02.560
<v Speaker 2>pick up this podcast, is a prophet, but whether or not you</v>

00:41:02.560 --> 00:41:06.400
<v Speaker 2>are a prophet is a matter of whether or not God has</v>

00:41:06.400 --> 00:41:08.960
<v Speaker 2>given you the gift of prophecy.</v>

00:41:08.960 --> 00:41:13.520
<v Speaker 2>If you do not have it and you attempt to exercise it,</v>

00:41:13.520 --> 00:41:16.560
<v Speaker 2>we call that a false prophet.</v>

00:41:16.560 --> 00:41:21.920
<v Speaker 2>And that's lying in God's name, that's high handed impenitent sin, that</v>

00:41:21.920 --> 00:41:24.320
<v Speaker 2>will damn you to hell.</v>

00:41:24.320 --> 00:41:28.320
<v Speaker 2>That compares directly to those who attempt to take up the mantle</v>

00:41:28.320 --> 00:41:32.720
<v Speaker 2>of teacher and do not have the capacity to do so.</v>

00:41:32.720 --> 00:41:36.800
<v Speaker 2>It is the same sort of thing as declaring yourself a prophet</v>

00:41:36.800 --> 00:41:39.920
<v Speaker 2>when you have not been given the gift of prophecy.</v>

00:41:39.920 --> 00:41:43.920
<v Speaker 2>If you compare those two things it becomes abundantly clear where the</v>

00:41:43.920 --> 00:41:46.800
<v Speaker 2>problem lies and why this should not be done.</v>

00:41:46.800 --> 00:41:50.720
<v Speaker 2>It's simply, again, to return to what Woe said earlier, it's the</v>

00:41:50.720 --> 00:41:55.120
<v Speaker 2>issue of mass literacy and this delusional belief that has been inculcated</v>

00:41:55.120 --> 00:42:02.240
<v Speaker 2>into society of equality, this egalitarianism, this supposed belief that all</v>

00:42:02.240 --> 00:42:07.120
<v Speaker 2>men are created equal, which is abundantly and obviously false.</v>

00:42:07.760 --> 00:42:12.000
<v Speaker 2>God has given different gifts to different men, and He will require</v>

00:42:12.000 --> 00:42:17.440
<v Speaker 2>from them different things, different results, because God requires you to use</v>

00:42:17.440 --> 00:42:21.360
<v Speaker 2>the gifts that He has given you he doesn't require you to</v>

00:42:21.360 --> 00:42:24.000
<v Speaker 2>attempt to use gifts he hasn't given you.</v>

00:42:24.000 --> 00:42:27.760
<v Speaker 2>If God didn't give you two legs, if you were born with</v>

00:42:27.760 --> 00:42:32.000
<v Speaker 2>one leg, he does not expect you to be a sprinter.</v>

00:42:32.000 --> 00:42:35.840
<v Speaker 2>If God didn't give you the abilities that are necessary to be</v>

00:42:35.840 --> 00:42:40.000
<v Speaker 2>a teacher, he doesn't expect you to be a teacher.</v>

00:42:40.000 --> 00:42:43.520
<v Speaker 2>The same as if he didn't give you the gift of prophecy,</v>

00:42:43.520 --> 00:42:47.120
<v Speaker 2>he doesn't expect you to attempt to be a prophet, because you</v>

00:42:47.120 --> 00:42:50.400
<v Speaker 2>can't do it.</v>

00:42:50.400 --> 00:42:55.040
<v Speaker 2>But to return to the issue of truth and lies, the subject</v>

00:42:55.040 --> 00:43:02.000
<v Speaker 2>of the episode, the fundamental reason that these things matter with regard</v>

00:43:02.000 --> 00:43:06.400
<v Speaker 2>to everything in life and not just with regard to scripture is</v>

00:43:06.400 --> 00:43:10.800
<v Speaker 2>because again, when we speak of the truth, we are speaking of</v>

00:43:10.800 --> 00:43:15.680
<v Speaker 2>that which corresponds with reality, and reality is just another term for</v>

00:43:15.680 --> 00:43:20.720
<v Speaker 2>creation. And so if you speak falsely, if you say something that</v>

00:43:20.720 --> 00:43:25.920
<v Speaker 2>does not correspond with reality, but rather is contrary to reality, you</v>

00:43:25.920 --> 00:43:30.160
<v Speaker 2>are lying about creation, and to lie about the creation is to</v>

00:43:30.160 --> 00:43:33.760
<v Speaker 2>lie about the creator, in the same way that to lie about</v>

00:43:33.760 --> 00:43:36.240
<v Speaker 2>what is written in a book is to lie about what the</v>

00:43:36.240 --> 00:43:37.760
<v Speaker 2>author has said.</v>

00:43:38.000 --> 00:43:40.640
<v Speaker 2>Creation is God's first book.</v>

00:43:40.640 --> 00:43:44.080
<v Speaker 2>We do not get to lie about what He has done in</v>

00:43:44.080 --> 00:43:48.640
<v Speaker 2>creation, because when we do that, we are lying about God.</v>

00:43:48.640 --> 00:43:53.840
<v Speaker 2>We are blaspheming, the creator of the universe, something that at the</v>

00:43:53.840 --> 00:43:58.720
<v Speaker 2>very least as Christians, we should want to avoid at all costs.</v>

00:43:59.120 --> 00:44:02.320
<v Speaker 2>And so with regard to these matters, we need to speak the</v>

00:44:02.320 --> 00:44:05.760
<v Speaker 2>truth. If you don't know the truth on something, as Wo said,</v>

00:44:05.760 --> 00:44:09.360
<v Speaker 2>and as we've said many times before, it is entirely fine to</v>

00:44:09.360 --> 00:44:11.520
<v Speaker 2>remain silent.</v>

00:44:11.520 --> 00:44:15.200
<v Speaker 2>You do not need to have a position or an opinion if</v>

00:44:15.200 --> 00:44:17.280
<v Speaker 2>it happens to be an opinion, which in most of these cases</v>

00:44:17.360 --> 00:44:21.040
<v Speaker 2>it is not, but sometimes we use the term in a way</v>

00:44:21.040 --> 00:44:23.200
<v Speaker 2>that conflates some senses.</v>

00:44:23.200 --> 00:44:27.040
<v Speaker 2>That you do not need to have a position on everything.</v>

00:44:27.040 --> 00:44:28.000
<v Speaker 2>I have no position</v>

00:44:29.040 --> 00:44:33.360
<v Speaker 2>with regard to basically anything in quantum chemistry.</v>

00:44:33.360 --> 00:44:37.920
<v Speaker 2>I know too little about the subject to have any positions or</v>

00:44:37.920 --> 00:44:40.960
<v Speaker 2>any opinions on things on which one could have an opinion with</v>

00:44:40.960 --> 00:44:43.600
<v Speaker 2>regard to that subject matter.</v>

00:44:43.600 --> 00:44:48.240
<v Speaker 2>I have very few opinions on woodworking because I don't know it</v>

00:44:48.240 --> 00:44:48.880
<v Speaker 2>very well.</v>

00:44:48.880 --> 00:44:52.240
<v Speaker 2>I'm not going to say this joint versus that joint is better</v>

00:44:52.240 --> 00:44:54.480
<v Speaker 2>or worse.</v>

00:44:54.480 --> 00:44:59.760
<v Speaker 2>I have positions and opinions on things about which I am knowledgeable.</v>

00:44:59.760 --> 00:45:02.720
<v Speaker 2>That is the way men should conduct themselves.</v>

00:45:02.720 --> 00:45:08.640
<v Speaker 2>The overwhelming majority of subjects and subject areas, you should have no</v>

00:45:08.640 --> 00:45:12.480
<v Speaker 2>position, no opinion, because you don't know anything about them.</v>

00:45:12.480 --> 00:45:17.520
<v Speaker 2>And that is the same for me, for Woe, for everyone else.</v>

00:45:17.520 --> 00:45:22.800
<v Speaker 2>Because the world of information out there, the sum of information in</v>

00:45:22.800 --> 00:45:28.160
<v Speaker 2>reality, in creation, approaches the infinite because it was created by the</v>

00:45:28.160 --> 00:45:33.920
<v Speaker 2>infinite. You simply cannot know everything, and so you do not need</v>

00:45:33.920 --> 00:45:37.360
<v Speaker 2>to have an opinion or a position on everything.</v>

00:45:37.360 --> 00:45:41.280
<v Speaker 2>It is entirely acceptable to hold your tongue.</v>

00:45:42.400 --> 00:45:42.560
I

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<v Speaker 3>want to focus now briefly on the first lie ever told, because</v>

00:45:47.040 --> 00:45:48.640
<v Speaker 3>it's a pretty big deal.</v>

00:45:48.640 --> 00:45:53.360
<v Speaker 3>In Genesis three it's written Now the serpent was more crafty than</v>

00:45:53.360 --> 00:45:56.400
<v Speaker 3>any other beast of the field that the Lord God had made.</v>

00:45:56.400 --> 00:46:00.000
<v Speaker 3>He said to the woman, now listen very carefully to this, did</v>

00:46:00.240 --> 00:46:04.240
<v Speaker 3>God actually say you shall not eat of any tree in the</v>

00:46:04.240 --> 00:46:07.600
<v Speaker 3>garden? And the woman said to the serpent, We may eat of</v>

00:46:07.600 --> 00:46:09.680
<v Speaker 3>the fruit of the trees in the garden, but God said you</v>

00:46:09.680 --> 00:46:11.600
<v Speaker 3>shall not eat of the fruit of the tree in the that</v>

00:46:11.600 --> 00:46:14.320
<v Speaker 3>is the midst of the garden, neither shall you touch it lest</v>

00:46:14.320 --> 00:46:15.040
<v Speaker 3>you die.</v>

00:46:15.040 --> 00:46:18.320
<v Speaker 3>But the serpent said to the woman, You will not surely die,</v>

00:46:18.320 --> 00:46:20.480
<v Speaker 3>for God knows that when you eat of it your eyes will</v>

00:46:20.480 --> 00:46:23.600
<v Speaker 3>be opened, and you will be like God, knowing good and evil.</v>

00:46:23.600 --> 00:46:26.240
<v Speaker 3>So when the woman saw that the tree was good for food,</v>

00:46:26.240 --> 00:46:28.240
<v Speaker 3>and it was a delight to the eyes and that the tree</v>

00:46:28.240 --> 00:46:31.280
<v Speaker 3>was to be desired, to make one wise, she took of its</v>

00:46:31.280 --> 00:46:34.000
<v Speaker 3>fruit and ate, and she also gave some to her husband who</v>

00:46:34.000 --> 00:46:35.520
<v Speaker 3>was with her, and he ate.</v>

00:46:35.520 --> 00:46:37.600
<v Speaker 3>Then the eyes of both were opened, and they knew that they</v>

00:46:37.600 --> 00:46:41.440
<v Speaker 3>were naked, and they sewed fig leaves together and made themselves loin</v>

00:46:41.520 --> 00:46:46.560
<v Speaker 3>claws. The first lie that Satan told was not you will not</v>

00:46:46.560 --> 00:46:47.440
<v Speaker 3>surely die.</v>

00:46:47.440 --> 00:46:51.680
<v Speaker 3>The first lie that the deceiver told to deceive deceive Eve was</v>

00:46:51.840 --> 00:46:55.680
<v Speaker 3>did God actually say, You shall not eat of any tree in</v>

00:46:55.680 --> 00:46:56.880
<v Speaker 3>the garden?</v>

00:46:56.880 --> 00:47:01.520
<v Speaker 3>The question itself was the first lie, because it was completely the</v>

00:47:01.520 --> 00:47:04.480
<v Speaker 3>opposite of what God said, and Satan knew it.</v>

00:47:04.720 --> 00:47:09.200
<v Speaker 3>There was a very specific reason why Satan gave a question that</v>

00:47:09.200 --> 00:47:11.120
<v Speaker 3>had no bearing on reality.</v>

00:47:11.120 --> 00:47:14.400
<v Speaker 3>It was similar to what God said, but it was very clearly</v>

00:47:14.400 --> 00:47:17.600
<v Speaker 3>a functional, fundamentally false misstatement.</v>

00:47:17.600 --> 00:47:20.400
<v Speaker 3>Satan said, You shall not eat of any tree in the garden.</v>

00:47:20.400 --> 00:47:21.440
<v Speaker 3>And then Eve corrected him.</v>

00:47:21.840 --> 00:47:22.320
<v Speaker 3>no, no.</v>

00:47:22.320 --> 00:47:24.480
<v Speaker 3>Just the one tree in the midst.</v>

00:47:24.480 --> 00:47:27.200
<v Speaker 3>What did Satan do when he said this?</v>

00:47:27.200 --> 00:47:30.000
<v Speaker 3>He triggered covetousness in Eve.</v>

00:47:30.320 --> 00:47:35.120
<v Speaker 3>She suddenly coveted the fruit that was fit to make one wise.</v>

00:47:35.120 --> 00:47:40.080
<v Speaker 3>And so by Satan falsely framing the question as you can't eat</v>

00:47:40.080 --> 00:47:42.720
<v Speaker 3>any of this fruit, Eve's respondent, look we can all the we</v>

00:47:42.720 --> 00:47:43.680
<v Speaker 3>can eat all the fruit.</v>

00:47:43.680 --> 00:47:46.480
<v Speaker 3>Everything is here for us, except for that one.</v>

00:47:46.480 --> 00:47:48.880
<v Speaker 3>And Satan said, Well, that one's the good one.</v>

00:47:48.880 --> 00:47:50.240
<v Speaker 3>It's not gonna hurt you.</v>

00:47:50.240 --> 00:47:52.240
<v Speaker 3>And so she looked at and she loved it.</v>

00:47:52.240 --> 00:47:56.080
<v Speaker 3>Like he tricked her, he deceived her with a question.</v>

00:47:57.040 --> 00:48:01.120
<v Speaker 3>Now note this lie from the deceiver, and he's called throughout much</v>

00:48:01.120 --> 00:48:04.000
<v Speaker 3>of the rest of scripture the deceiver because of what he says</v>

00:48:04.000 --> 00:48:09.360
<v Speaker 3>here. He deceived her by twisting what God had said and done.</v>

00:48:09.680 --> 00:48:12.960
<v Speaker 3>It was God's will that they not eat of one tree.</v>

00:48:12.960 --> 00:48:16.080
<v Speaker 3>He made her greedy by saying, Oh, God said you can't eat</v>

00:48:16.080 --> 00:48:17.520
<v Speaker 3>any of this stuff, didn't he?</v>

00:48:17.520 --> 00:48:19.920
<v Speaker 3>And so she just marched right into it.</v>

00:48:19.920 --> 00:48:22.800
<v Speaker 3>She got excited, just like so many of us get excited online</v>

00:48:23.200 --> 00:48:26.320
<v Speaker 3>when we see that somebody's wrong about something and we march in</v>

00:48:26.320 --> 00:48:29.840
<v Speaker 3>there and straighten them out, not realizing that it was a trick,</v>

00:48:29.840 --> 00:48:31.280
<v Speaker 3>it was a setup.</v>

00:48:31.280 --> 00:48:33.680
<v Speaker 3>Satan knew exactly what she was gonna do.</v>

00:48:33.680 --> 00:48:37.840
<v Speaker 3>Satan wanted her to correct him and to say what God said.</v>

00:48:37.840 --> 00:48:41.600
<v Speaker 3>Satan tricked Eve into confessing God's command.</v>

00:48:41.600 --> 00:48:43.600
<v Speaker 3>And that's how he got her.</v>

00:48:43.600 --> 00:48:46.880
<v Speaker 3>Because it wasn't the command itself that was the problem, it was</v>

00:48:46.880 --> 00:48:50.320
<v Speaker 3>the inherent covetousness that she had for that which she had been</v>

00:48:50.320 --> 00:48:52.320
<v Speaker 3>denied by God's command.</v>

00:48:52.320 --> 00:48:54.880
<v Speaker 3>Satan said, God said you can't eat any of this stuff?</v>

00:48:54.880 --> 00:48:56.320
<v Speaker 3>She's like, no, it's all for us.</v>

00:48:56.320 --> 00:48:57.440
<v Speaker 3>Just the one thing.</v>

00:48:57.440 --> 00:49:00.080
<v Speaker 3>And so then the one thing that she couldn't have became the</v>

00:49:00.080 --> 00:49:03.360
<v Speaker 3>focus. And that And that's how he deceived her.</v>

00:49:03.360 --> 00:49:06.800
<v Speaker 3>It's very interesting when you look at the definition of the word</v>

00:49:06.800 --> 00:49:12.480
<v Speaker 3>that's used for deceiver or deception, the root, planos, it's the same</v>

00:49:12.480 --> 00:49:14.880
<v Speaker 3>root for the word that we have for planet.</v>

00:49:14.880 --> 00:49:18.160
<v Speaker 3>Before they knew what planets were when they were first identified in</v>

00:49:18.160 --> 00:49:20.720
<v Speaker 3>the stars, they were called wanderers.</v>

00:49:20.720 --> 00:49:23.600
<v Speaker 3>That's how that's where planet came from, because they wander.</v>

00:49:23.600 --> 00:49:25.840
<v Speaker 3>That is the word that is used for deceiver.</v>

00:49:25.840 --> 00:49:27.200
<v Speaker 3>Why is that?</v>

00:49:27.200 --> 00:49:29.680
<v Speaker 3>On one hand, on the gradient, on the you know, the good</v>

00:49:30.080 --> 00:49:34.320
<v Speaker 3>side of the gradient, we have the truth, God's eternal truth, all</v>

00:49:34.320 --> 00:49:38.080
<v Speaker 3>things that are true, all things that are real.</v>

00:49:38.080 --> 00:49:43.040
<v Speaker 3>The opposite is not absolute black lies and malevolence.</v>

00:49:43.040 --> 00:49:47.200
<v Speaker 3>The opposite, the deceiver, when Satan is repeatedly called a deceiver in</v>

00:49:47.200 --> 00:49:51.280
<v Speaker 3>Revelation, he's called the one who causes her to wander.</v>

00:49:51.280 --> 00:49:55.440
<v Speaker 3>He deceived by causing Eve to wander away from the truth.</v>

00:49:55.440 --> 00:50:01.040
<v Speaker 3>Now this is a crucial distinction because the truth requires laser focus.</v>

00:50:01.040 --> 00:50:07.360
<v Speaker 3>It requires absolute certainty and devotion to that which is actually true.</v>

00:50:07.360 --> 00:50:09.120
<v Speaker 3>Every detail.</v>

00:50:09.120 --> 00:50:11.760
<v Speaker 3>Satan just needs you to wander off the path a little bit.</v>

00:50:11.760 --> 00:50:13.680
<v Speaker 3>It doesn't matter which way you go.</v>

00:50:13.680 --> 00:50:16.720
<v Speaker 3>See, this first lie, although the lie of you will not surely</v>

00:50:16.720 --> 00:50:21.040
<v Speaker 3>die, was a complete inversion The first deception of the question wasn't</v>

00:50:21.120 --> 00:50:25.040
<v Speaker 3>inversion. It was kind of an inversion of the actual command.</v>

00:50:25.040 --> 00:50:28.880
<v Speaker 3>But the point was not, you should go do all these terrible,</v>

00:50:28.880 --> 00:50:31.760
<v Speaker 3>evil things, just ignore all what God said about fruit.</v>

00:50:31.760 --> 00:50:32.480
<v Speaker 3>Go kill Adam.</v>

00:50:32.480 --> 00:50:36.400
<v Speaker 3>Go poison him, go, you know, do something super bad.</v>

00:50:36.400 --> 00:50:39.120
<v Speaker 3>Satan just caused her to wander.</v>

00:50:39.120 --> 00:50:42.400
<v Speaker 3>This is the appeal that it's intrinsic to every man.</v>

00:50:42.400 --> 00:50:45.920
<v Speaker 3>It takes laser focus to stay on the truth, and it's very</v>

00:50:45.920 --> 00:50:48.480
<v Speaker 3>easy to be distracted by anything else.</v>

00:50:48.480 --> 00:50:51.280
<v Speaker 3>And so I think when we look at the world around us</v>

00:50:51.280 --> 00:50:56.000
<v Speaker 3>today, the notion the deceiver is rooted in wandering, and then you</v>

00:50:56.000 --> 00:50:59.280
<v Speaker 3>look at all the things in our lives that are sources of</v>

00:50:59.280 --> 00:51:02.720
<v Speaker 3>distraction, they take on a very different context, don't they?</v>

00:51:02.960 --> 00:51:09.440
<v Speaker 3>Whether it's sports ball or video games or drinking or church, if</v>

00:51:09.440 --> 00:51:12.720
<v Speaker 3>your entire focus is maybe you want to become a monk.</v>

00:51:12.720 --> 00:51:15.520
<v Speaker 3>You love God so much you want to go whole hog and</v>

00:51:15.520 --> 00:51:17.680
<v Speaker 3>devote every moment of your life.</v>

00:51:17.680 --> 00:51:20.880
<v Speaker 3>If you have another vocation, if you have other duties that you</v>

00:51:20.880 --> 00:51:24.560
<v Speaker 3>would necessarily have to neglect in order to do that, perhaps you're</v>

00:51:24.480 --> 00:51:27.200
<v Speaker 3>wandering from the path that God actually wants.</v>

00:51:27.200 --> 00:51:32.240
<v Speaker 3>The things that Satan uses to cause us to wander aren't necessarily</v>

00:51:32.240 --> 00:51:34.480
<v Speaker 3>evil in and of themselves.</v>

00:51:34.480 --> 00:51:36.720
<v Speaker 3>Alcohol is a blessing from God.</v>

00:51:36.720 --> 00:51:39.280
<v Speaker 3>Too much alcohol is destruction.</v>

00:51:39.280 --> 00:51:40.720
<v Speaker 3>Same with calories.</v>

00:51:40.720 --> 00:51:43.120
<v Speaker 3>You die without a certain number of calories.</v>

00:51:43.120 --> 00:51:46.560
<v Speaker 3>And yet if you have too many, it leads to your destruction.</v>

00:51:46.560 --> 00:51:50.240
<v Speaker 3>And so wandering from the path of what is true is the</v>

00:51:50.240 --> 00:51:53.200
<v Speaker 3>deception. It's the deceiver's bread and butter.</v>

00:51:53.200 --> 00:51:57.520
<v Speaker 3>It's not always complete inversion, even though that's ultimately the goal.</v>

00:51:57.520 --> 00:52:02.640
<v Speaker 3>The goal is always ultimately the complete inversion of creation, of reality.</v>

00:52:02.640 --> 00:52:05.680
<v Speaker 3>But he gets there by causing you to wander.</v>

00:52:05.680 --> 00:52:09.280
<v Speaker 3>Lust is often called in a relationship wandering eyes.</v>

00:52:09.280 --> 00:52:12.960
<v Speaker 3>Sure, he's a faithful husband, but when a pretty girl walks by,</v>

00:52:12.960 --> 00:52:14.160
<v Speaker 3>he checks her out.</v>

00:52:14.160 --> 00:52:15.920
<v Speaker 3>That's a wandering eye.</v>

00:52:15.920 --> 00:52:19.920
<v Speaker 3>Jesus condemns that specifically because he's already lusting in his heart, and</v>

00:52:19.920 --> 00:52:22.960
<v Speaker 3>the adultery is a fate of compli at that point.</v>

00:52:22.960 --> 00:52:25.280
<v Speaker 3>He's already done in his heart, why not follow through?</v>

00:52:25.440 --> 00:52:27.200
<v Speaker 3>In for a penny, in for a pound.</v>

00:52:27.200 --> 00:52:27.760
<v Speaker 3>I liked it.</v>

00:52:28.080 --> 00:52:28.880
<v Speaker 3>I saw it.</v>

00:52:28.880 --> 00:52:30.720
<v Speaker 3>I saw that it was good.</v>

00:52:30.720 --> 00:52:31.920
<v Speaker 3>Just like Eve.</v>

00:52:31.920 --> 00:52:33.600
<v Speaker 3>That's how temptation comes.</v>

00:52:33.600 --> 00:52:37.360
<v Speaker 3>Satan's deception is with temptation to cause you to wander just a</v>

00:52:37.360 --> 00:52:39.920
<v Speaker 3>little bit, even if it's an ordered desire.</v>

00:52:39.920 --> 00:52:43.920
<v Speaker 3>If it's disordered because it's the wrong girl, then it's sin.</v>

00:52:43.920 --> 00:52:46.800
<v Speaker 3>And so when we're looking at what is true and what is</v>

00:52:46.800 --> 00:52:50.320
<v Speaker 3>false, and we're looking at the nature of Satan, the father of</v>

00:52:50.320 --> 00:52:54.560
<v Speaker 3>lies, just keep in mind that the father of lies, his go-to</v>

00:52:54.800 --> 00:52:57.840
<v Speaker 3>move is initially wandering.</v>

00:52:57.840 --> 00:52:58.960
<v Speaker 3>You will not surely die.</v>

00:52:58.960 --> 00:53:00.160
<v Speaker 3>It's not going to be as bad.</v>

00:53:00.160 --> 00:53:02.640
<v Speaker 3>You know, you've you've heard that these things are gonna happen if</v>

00:53:02.640 --> 00:53:03.040
<v Speaker 3>you do this.</v>

00:53:03.040 --> 00:53:03.600
<v Speaker 3>Don't worry about it.</v>

00:53:03.840 --> 00:53:04.880
<v Speaker 3>It's gonna be okay.</v>

00:53:04.880 --> 00:53:07.920
<v Speaker 3>Just take one sniff, take one bite, it's not gonna hurt you.</v>

00:53:07.920 --> 00:53:10.960
<v Speaker 3>And then you get into it, and it destroys you, because you</v>

00:53:10.960 --> 00:53:14.960
<v Speaker 3>wandered off the path of truth of what is godly, and the</v>

00:53:14.960 --> 00:53:19.200
<v Speaker 3>destruction will inevitably follow if you continue to wander down that false</v>

00:53:19.200 --> 00:53:24.880
<v Speaker 3>path. When we don't view truth and lies in this context, it's</v>

00:53:24.880 --> 00:53:27.280
<v Speaker 3>so easy to gobble up lies left and right.</v>

00:53:27.280 --> 00:53:30.240
<v Speaker 3>Because the lie that Eve gobbled up was a small one.</v>

00:53:30.240 --> 00:53:34.160
<v Speaker 3>She retorted Satan with exactly what God said, or at least close</v>

00:53:34.480 --> 00:53:34.960
<v Speaker 3>to it.</v>

00:53:34.960 --> 00:53:38.160
<v Speaker 3>We're not sure about the extra part that was tacked on about</v>

00:53:38.160 --> 00:53:40.080
<v Speaker 3>not touching it.</v>

00:53:40.080 --> 00:53:41.920
<v Speaker 3>But she responded with confession.</v>

00:53:41.920 --> 00:53:45.280
<v Speaker 3>She confessed what God had said against the false statement that Satan</v>

00:53:45.280 --> 00:53:45.760
<v Speaker 3>had made.</v>

00:53:45.760 --> 00:53:48.320
<v Speaker 3>And that was how he caused her to wander.</v>

00:53:48.320 --> 00:53:51.440
<v Speaker 3>I think this is what we see today with people shouting, that's</v>

00:53:51.440 --> 00:53:54.880
<v Speaker 3>not the gospel when someone says something that has nothing to do</v>

00:53:54.880 --> 00:53:56.000
<v Speaker 3>with salvation.</v>

00:53:56.000 --> 00:53:58.240
<v Speaker 3>There are many things in life that have nothing to do with</v>

00:53:58.240 --> 00:54:01.920
<v Speaker 3>salvation. If you listen to a podcast or read an article that</v>

00:54:01.920 --> 00:54:07.120
<v Speaker 3>talks about proper health and proper nutrition, if you don't follow those</v>

00:54:07.120 --> 00:54:10.400
<v Speaker 3>guidelines, you will be less healthy, whether you know it or not.</v>

00:54:10.400 --> 00:54:14.160
<v Speaker 3>And so when you learn about it, if you read dietary advice,</v>

00:54:14.160 --> 00:54:17.440
<v Speaker 3>like the best possible way to feed yourself, to care for your</v>

00:54:17.440 --> 00:54:20.720
<v Speaker 3>body, and you do the exact opposite, you're going to get the</v>

00:54:20.720 --> 00:54:22.160
<v Speaker 3>inevitable result from it.</v>

00:54:22.160 --> 00:54:25.040
<v Speaker 3>Because it's baked into the behavior.</v>

00:54:25.040 --> 00:54:29.840
<v Speaker 3>The fact that not everything is about the gospel refutes nothing, because</v>

00:54:30.000 --> 00:54:35.120
<v Speaker 3>gospel matters, as they specifically relate to how God saves us, are</v>

00:54:35.200 --> 00:54:36.720
<v Speaker 3>in fact very narrow.</v>

00:54:37.040 --> 00:54:39.600
<v Speaker 3>One of my mutuals on X pointed this out yesterday.</v>

00:54:39.600 --> 00:54:40.960
<v Speaker 3>It's a brilliant observation.</v>

00:54:40.960 --> 00:54:43.680
<v Speaker 3>Lately, a bunch of guys have been running around shouting, well, that's</v>

00:54:43.680 --> 00:54:44.560
<v Speaker 3>not the gospel.</v>

00:54:44.560 --> 00:54:47.040
<v Speaker 3>It's a refutation of what guys post online.</v>

00:54:47.040 --> 00:54:50.800
<v Speaker 3>Is though if you're not saying John 3.16 with every post you</v>

00:54:50.800 --> 00:54:51.840
<v Speaker 3>are evil.</v>

00:54:51.840 --> 00:54:53.680
<v Speaker 3>You're not a good enough Christian.</v>

00:54:53.680 --> 00:54:58.320
<v Speaker 3>And my friend pointed out, if you apply that test to Scripture,</v>

00:54:58.320 --> 00:54:59.840
<v Speaker 3>Scripture is then evil.</v>

00:54:59.840 --> 00:55:03.120
<v Speaker 3>To say that's not the gospel applies to most of Scripture.</v>

00:55:03.120 --> 00:55:06.480
<v Speaker 3>In fact, saying that's not the gospel, the way these guys lie</v>

00:55:06.480 --> 00:55:09.280
<v Speaker 3>about it, it damns most of the gospel themselves.</v>

00:55:09.280 --> 00:55:12.240
<v Speaker 3>When you read the gospels, most of the gospels is not the</v>

00:55:12.240 --> 00:55:13.760
<v Speaker 3>gospel. It's in there.</v>

00:55:13.760 --> 00:55:17.760
<v Speaker 3>It's in there abundantly, but the abundance is because of how important</v>

00:55:17.760 --> 00:55:18.240
<v Speaker 3>it is.</v>

00:55:18.240 --> 00:55:20.240
<v Speaker 3>It's not by volume.</v>

00:55:20.240 --> 00:55:24.160
<v Speaker 3>The test by volume of how much gospel is present is ridiculous.</v>

00:55:24.160 --> 00:55:26.000
<v Speaker 3>It's anti Christian.</v>

00:55:26.000 --> 00:55:29.520
<v Speaker 3>And yet this new attack has emerged where guys want to sound</v>

00:55:29.520 --> 00:55:32.480
<v Speaker 3>pious and they don't know what to say, and they hear something</v>

00:55:32.480 --> 00:55:35.280
<v Speaker 3>they don't like, and they say that's not the gospel.</v>

00:55:35.280 --> 00:55:37.920
<v Speaker 3>They're doing exactly what Satan did to Eve.</v>

00:55:37.920 --> 00:55:42.800
<v Speaker 3>They're introducing a completely false non sequitur and using it to invert</v>

00:55:42.800 --> 00:55:47.600
<v Speaker 3>the situation because what they're fundamentally doing is setting the gospel, which</v>

00:55:47.600 --> 00:55:50.640
<v Speaker 3>they're misconstruing, against things that are true.</v>

00:55:50.640 --> 00:55:53.040
<v Speaker 3>They're not saying that guys who are posting a bunch of stuff</v>

00:55:53.040 --> 00:55:55.760
<v Speaker 3>that aren't the gospel are even liars.</v>

00:55:55.760 --> 00:55:58.240
<v Speaker 3>They're saying, well, sure, that's true, but it's not the gospel, therefore</v>

00:55:58.240 --> 00:55:59.760
<v Speaker 3>it's invalid.</v>

00:55:59.760 --> 00:56:02.320
<v Speaker 3>That's fundamentally Gnostic.</v>

00:56:02.320 --> 00:56:04.800
<v Speaker 3>As we said in the Gnosticism episode early in the year, I'm</v>

00:56:04.800 --> 00:56:06.080
<v Speaker 3>not using that flippantly.</v>

00:56:06.080 --> 00:56:08.880
<v Speaker 3>I'm not just name-calling by calling it Gnostic.</v>

00:56:08.880 --> 00:56:13.600
<v Speaker 3>If you are so focused on one narrow aspect of doctrine that</v>

00:56:13.600 --> 00:56:17.680
<v Speaker 3>when a man says something that's true, you shout him down, you</v>

00:56:17.680 --> 00:56:21.280
<v Speaker 3>do not love the truth, and you are not a Christian.</v>

00:56:21.280 --> 00:56:24.480
<v Speaker 3>These are the stakes here.</v>

00:56:24.800 --> 00:56:25.040
To

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<v Speaker 2>return to the issue of philosophy just briefly and sort of tangentially.</v>

00:56:31.280 --> 00:56:35.040
<v Speaker 2>In philosophy there's a thing called a razor, which essentially is just</v>

00:56:35.040 --> 00:56:40.480
<v Speaker 2>a tool for helping you think about a particular type or class</v>

00:56:40.480 --> 00:56:42.080
<v Speaker 2>of problems.</v>

00:56:42.080 --> 00:56:45.120
<v Speaker 2>The most common one, or at least the most well-known one, is</v>

00:56:45.120 --> 00:56:50.800
<v Speaker 2>probably Occam's razor, which there's some irony in how abused that razor</v>

00:56:50.800 --> 00:56:54.400
<v Speaker 2>is and the way in which it is particularly most often abused,</v>

00:56:54.400 --> 00:56:57.120
<v Speaker 2>but that's a topic for another time.</v>

00:56:57.120 --> 00:57:01.120
<v Speaker 2>I want to give you a razor for dealing with problems in</v>

00:57:01.120 --> 00:57:02.640
<v Speaker 2>this area.</v>

00:57:02.640 --> 00:57:05.680
<v Speaker 2>It's a very simple one.</v>

00:57:05.680 --> 00:57:12.000
<v Speaker 2>If a response to a particular purported fact that has been advanced</v>

00:57:12.800 --> 00:57:19.920
<v Speaker 2>is tangential and attacks something ancillary about the fact or</v>

00:57:19.920 --> 00:57:25.440
<v Speaker 2>the consequences of the fact or the speaker, then you should be</v>

00:57:25.440 --> 00:57:32.000
<v Speaker 2>very deeply suspicious, because the person launching that attack almost certainly has</v>

00:57:32.000 --> 00:57:34.160
<v Speaker 2>ulterior motives.</v>

00:57:34.160 --> 00:57:37.440
<v Speaker 2>To give a concrete example, and this ties into what Woe was</v>

00:57:37.440 --> 00:57:41.360
<v Speaker 2>just saying, but the concrete example makes it easier.</v>

00:57:41.360 --> 00:57:48.480
<v Speaker 2>If you point out that statistically speaking, looking at the crime</v>

00:57:48.480 --> 00:57:52.320
<v Speaker 2>data, at least as best as they are reported these days, in</v>

00:57:52.320 --> 00:57:59.200
<v Speaker 2>the United States, blacks are overwhelmingly more likely than any other group,</v>

00:57:59.200 --> 00:58:02.880
<v Speaker 2>particularly than whites, to commit violent crimes.</v>

00:58:02.880 --> 00:58:06.320
<v Speaker 2>And someone responds to that, well that's racist.</v>

00:58:06.320 --> 00:58:07.600
<v Speaker 2>That's an example.</v>

00:58:07.600 --> 00:58:11.280
<v Speaker 2>That should trigger your defense with regard to that razor.</v>

00:58:11.280 --> 00:58:13.680
<v Speaker 2>Because what has that man said?</v>

00:58:13.680 --> 00:58:17.200
<v Speaker 2>And more importantly, what has he not said?</v>

00:58:17.200 --> 00:58:20.800
<v Speaker 2>He's said I don't like that.</v>

00:58:20.800 --> 00:58:23.840
<v Speaker 2>I don't like what you've said.</v>

00:58:23.840 --> 00:58:25.440
<v Speaker 2>It makes me uncomfortable.</v>

00:58:25.440 --> 00:58:26.880
<v Speaker 2>I don't want you to say it.</v>

00:58:26.880 --> 00:58:29.200
<v Speaker 2>He said a bunch of stuff like that.</v>

00:58:29.200 --> 00:58:32.240
<v Speaker 2>What he's really said is I want you to shut up.</v>

00:58:32.240 --> 00:58:37.520
<v Speaker 2>But what he has not said is that's wrong.</v>

00:58:37.520 --> 00:58:44.000
<v Speaker 2>If the thing being advanced, if the purported fact were wrong.</v>

00:58:44.000 --> 00:58:49.280
<v Speaker 2>If the man speaking were in error, the correct response is and</v>

00:58:49.280 --> 00:58:52.320
<v Speaker 2>would be that's wrong.</v>

00:58:52.320 --> 00:58:56.560
<v Speaker 2>It would be no look at these data, I have an answer</v>

00:58:56.560 --> 00:58:57.760
<v Speaker 2>to that.</v>

00:58:57.760 --> 00:59:01.840
<v Speaker 2>What you just said is wrong, but they don't attack you by</v>

00:59:01.840 --> 00:59:05.120
<v Speaker 2>saying that what you've said is wrong.</v>

00:59:05.120 --> 00:59:09.600
<v Speaker 2>They attack you by saying that what you've said is racist, or</v>

00:59:09.600 --> 00:59:16.640
<v Speaker 2>sexist, or misogynist, or kinist, or supremacist, or any of these</v>

00:59:16.640 --> 00:59:20.640
<v Speaker 2>other words that are meant to terminate the discussion and also serve</v>

00:59:20.640 --> 00:59:24.480
<v Speaker 2>as a threat, because they're threatening, I am going to attempt to</v>

00:59:24.480 --> 00:59:30.080
<v Speaker 2>ruin your life by branding you as these various things that society</v>

00:59:30.080 --> 00:59:36.480
<v Speaker 2>says are unacceptable, instead of actually addressing the point you've made.</v>

00:59:36.640 --> 00:59:41.520
<v Speaker 2>A serious man who is dealing with the conversation, dealing with the</v>

00:59:41.520 --> 00:59:45.760
<v Speaker 2>topic in a serious manner, will address the actual thing that has</v>

00:59:45.760 --> 00:59:48.320
<v Speaker 2>been advanced, which is the fact.</v>

00:59:48.320 --> 00:59:53.440
<v Speaker 2>Boiled down to its simplest, one man has said, X is true.</v>

00:59:53.440 --> 00:59:57.120
<v Speaker 2>And then the other man has said, I don't like you.</v>

00:59:57.120 --> 00:59:58.880
<v Speaker 2>It's irrelevant.</v>

00:59:58.880 --> 01:00:02.880
<v Speaker 2>It may be tangentially related because he may say I don't like</v>

01:00:02.880 --> 01:00:07.360
<v Speaker 2>X, which is tangentially related in the mathematical sense.</v>

01:00:07.360 --> 01:00:11.200
<v Speaker 2>It has one point of contact with the thing.</v>

01:00:11.200 --> 01:00:13.840
<v Speaker 2>But it is not a refutation, it's not an actual response</v>

01:00:15.200 --> 01:00:19.120
<v Speaker 2>And so when someone takes that tack, you should be on your</v>

01:00:19.120 --> 01:00:24.000
<v Speaker 2>guard. You should recognize that person is intending to mislead you.</v>

01:00:24.000 --> 01:00:26.160
<v Speaker 2>He is trying to lead you astray.</v>

01:00:26.160 --> 01:00:28.320
<v Speaker 2>He is acting in the place of the sever.</v>

01:00:28.640 --> 01:00:31.360
<v Speaker 2>That is the very sort of thing that Satan does.</v>

01:00:31.360 --> 01:00:34.720
<v Speaker 2>It is not the sort of thing Christian men should do, and</v>

01:00:34.720 --> 01:00:37.120
<v Speaker 2>it is certainly not the sort of thing for which Christian men</v>

01:00:37.120 --> 01:00:39.120
<v Speaker 2>should be known.</v>

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I

01:00:39.680 --> 01:00:44.000
<v Speaker 3>want to give you an example from 1 John to illustrate one</v>

01:00:44.000 --> 01:00:48.400
<v Speaker 3>of the things that we frequently say about determining whether or not</v>

01:00:48.400 --> 01:00:51.600
<v Speaker 3>someone's confession that they're a Christian is true or not.</v>

01:00:51.920 --> 01:00:55.040
<v Speaker 3>I'm going to read a couple paragraphs so I don't pluck anything</v>

01:00:55.040 --> 01:00:55.760
<v Speaker 3>out of context.</v>

01:00:55.760 --> 01:00:57.120
<v Speaker 3>I'm not proof texting here.</v>

01:00:57.120 --> 01:00:58.640
<v Speaker 3>I hate that.</v>

01:00:58.640 --> 01:01:00.880
<v Speaker 3>In first John two it is written.</v>

01:01:01.040 --> 01:01:03.920
<v Speaker 3>My little children, I am writing these things to you, so that</v>

01:01:03.920 --> 01:01:05.120
<v Speaker 3>you may not sin.</v>

01:01:05.120 --> 01:01:08.000
<v Speaker 3>But if anyone does sin, we have an advocate with the Father,</v>

01:01:08.000 --> 01:01:10.080
<v Speaker 3>Jesus Christ, the righteous.</v>

01:01:10.080 --> 01:01:13.600
<v Speaker 3>He is the propitiation for our sins and not for ours only,</v>

01:01:13.600 --> 01:01:16.880
<v Speaker 3>but also for the sins of the whole world, and by this</v>

01:01:16.880 --> 01:01:19.280
<v Speaker 3>we know that we have come to know him if we keep</v>

01:01:19.280 --> 01:01:20.640
<v Speaker 3>his commandments.</v>

01:01:20.640 --> 01:01:24.640
<v Speaker 3>Whoever says I know him, but does not keep his commandments is</v>

01:01:24.640 --> 01:01:27.600
<v Speaker 3>a liar, and the truth is not in him.</v>

01:01:27.600 --> 01:01:31.120
<v Speaker 3>But whoever keeps his word, in him truly the love of God</v>

01:01:31.120 --> 01:01:32.320
<v Speaker 3>is perfected.</v>

01:01:32.320 --> 01:01:34.800
<v Speaker 3>By this we may know that we are in him.</v>

01:01:34.800 --> 01:01:37.920
<v Speaker 3>Whoever says he abides in him ought to walk in the same</v>

01:01:37.920 --> 01:01:39.760
<v Speaker 3>way in which he walked.</v>

01:01:39.760 --> 01:01:42.640
<v Speaker 3>So when you hear that you're praying thinking that sounds like works</v>

01:01:42.720 --> 01:01:45.520
<v Speaker 3>righteousness, that sounds like self justification.</v>

01:01:45.520 --> 01:01:47.840
<v Speaker 3>Or you'll say, Well yeah, I go along with that, but obviously</v>

01:01:47.920 --> 01:01:51.280
<v Speaker 3>I can't believe it because then that would be works righteousness.</v>

01:01:51.280 --> 01:01:53.840
<v Speaker 3>There are a lot of passages in scripture when we actually just</v>

01:01:53.840 --> 01:01:58.560
<v Speaker 3>take them at face value, especially Protestants who correctly understand that we</v>

01:01:58.560 --> 01:02:02.320
<v Speaker 3>can't save ourselves have the wrong reaction and we get angry with</v>

01:02:02.320 --> 01:02:03.280
<v Speaker 3>the text.</v>

01:02:03.280 --> 01:02:07.200
<v Speaker 3>God says whoever says I know Jesus but does not keep his</v>

01:02:07.280 --> 01:02:10.400
<v Speaker 3>commandments is a liar and the truth is not in him.</v>

01:02:10.960 --> 01:02:14.000
<v Speaker 3>Now, this is important because I'm going to go two chapters later</v>

01:02:14.000 --> 01:02:16.880
<v Speaker 3>and show you where the proof textures leap into this.</v>

01:02:16.880 --> 01:02:18.160
<v Speaker 3>First John 4.</v>

01:02:18.160 --> 01:02:21.520
<v Speaker 3>Beloved, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits to see</v>

01:02:21.520 --> 01:02:22.720
<v Speaker 3>whether they are from God.</v>

01:02:22.720 --> 01:02:26.000
<v Speaker 3>For many false prophets have gone out into the world.</v>

01:02:26.000 --> 01:02:28.240
<v Speaker 3>By this you know the Spirit of God.</v>

01:02:28.240 --> 01:02:31.600
<v Speaker 3>Every spirit that confesses that Jesus Christ has come in the flesh</v>

01:02:31.760 --> 01:02:35.680
<v Speaker 3>is from God, and every spirit that does not confess Jesus is</v>

01:02:35.680 --> 01:02:36.720
<v Speaker 3>not from God.</v>

01:02:36.720 --> 01:02:39.840
<v Speaker 3>This is the spirit of the Antichrist, which you have heard is</v>

01:02:39.840 --> 01:02:42.240
<v Speaker 3>coming and now is in the world already.</v>

01:02:42.240 --> 01:02:45.680
<v Speaker 3>Little children you are from God and have overcome them, for he</v>

01:02:45.680 --> 01:02:47.920
<v Speaker 3>who is in you is greater than he who is in the</v>

01:02:47.920 --> 01:02:51.040
<v Speaker 3>world. They are from the world, therefore they speak from the world,</v>

01:02:51.040 --> 01:02:54.400
<v Speaker 3>and the world listens to them, we are from God.</v>

01:02:54.400 --> 01:02:58.480
<v Speaker 3>Whoever knows God listens to us, whoever is not from God does</v>

01:02:58.480 --> 01:02:59.600
<v Speaker 3>not listen to us.</v>

01:02:59.600 --> 01:03:02.720
<v Speaker 3>By this we know the spirit of truth and the spirit of</v>

01:03:02.720 --> 01:03:06.800
<v Speaker 3>error. So the proof dexter will want to ignore John two entirely</v>

01:03:06.960 --> 01:03:09.280
<v Speaker 3>and use this definition of Christianity.</v>

01:03:09.280 --> 01:03:11.200
<v Speaker 3>By this you know the Spirit of God.</v>

01:03:11.200 --> 01:03:14.880
<v Speaker 3>Every spirit that confesses that Jesus Christ has come in the flesh</v>

01:03:15.120 --> 01:03:16.080
<v Speaker 3>is from God.</v>

01:03:16.080 --> 01:03:19.440
<v Speaker 3>And every spirit that does not confess Jesus is not from God.</v>

01:03:19.440 --> 01:03:20.560
<v Speaker 3>It's very simple.</v>

01:03:20.560 --> 01:03:23.120
<v Speaker 3>That's a basic definition, and it's true.</v>

01:03:23.120 --> 01:03:26.640
<v Speaker 3>The problem is that it is only true in the context of</v>

01:03:26.640 --> 01:03:28.240
<v Speaker 3>first John 2.</v>

01:03:28.240 --> 01:03:31.120
<v Speaker 3>How can we confess that Jesus Christ has come in the flesh</v>

01:03:32.000 --> 01:03:36.000
<v Speaker 3>if we do not that's saying I know him to confess that</v>

01:03:36.000 --> 01:03:38.400
<v Speaker 3>Jesus has come in the flesh is to say I know him,</v>

01:03:38.400 --> 01:03:41.280
<v Speaker 3>but if you do not keep his commandments you're a liar.</v>

01:03:41.280 --> 01:03:44.320
<v Speaker 3>So see the confession with your lips to say, oh yeah, Jesus</v>

01:03:44.320 --> 01:03:45.920
<v Speaker 3>came. He's I I believe in Jesus.</v>

01:03:45.920 --> 01:03:47.200
<v Speaker 3>I'm I'm a Christian.</v>

01:03:47.200 --> 01:03:49.840
<v Speaker 3>If you don't keep his commandments, you're a liar.</v>

01:03:49.840 --> 01:03:51.440
<v Speaker 3>This is not works righteousness.</v>

01:03:51.440 --> 01:03:53.360
<v Speaker 3>This is the Christian life.</v>

01:03:53.360 --> 01:03:54.880
<v Speaker 3>Do you see the problem here?</v>

01:03:54.880 --> 01:03:59.600
<v Speaker 3>It's very easy to focus in on that really easy sounding passage</v>

01:03:59.600 --> 01:04:03.120
<v Speaker 3>in first John four, where every spirit that confesses Jesus Christ has</v>

01:04:03.120 --> 01:04:04.560
<v Speaker 3>come from the flesh is from God.</v>

01:04:04.560 --> 01:04:05.200
<v Speaker 3>Okay, great.</v>

01:04:05.200 --> 01:04:06.800
<v Speaker 3>That's all our pastors, isn't it?</v>

01:04:06.800 --> 01:04:08.320
<v Speaker 3>Every pastor pretty much confesses that.</v>

01:04:09.120 --> 01:04:12.640
<v Speaker 3>How many pastors who say I know Jesus don't keep his commandments,</v>

01:04:12.640 --> 01:04:15.360
<v Speaker 3>who tell me you don't have to keep his commandments?</v>

01:04:15.360 --> 01:04:18.800
<v Speaker 3>God calls that man a liar and says the truth is not</v>

01:04:18.800 --> 01:04:19.760
<v Speaker 3>in him.</v>

01:04:20.160 --> 01:04:23.520
<v Speaker 3>Now, again, this is not works righteousness.</v>

01:04:23.520 --> 01:04:26.160
<v Speaker 3>We can't possibly follow God's commands perfectly.</v>

01:04:26.160 --> 01:04:27.200
<v Speaker 3>We cannot.</v>

01:04:27.200 --> 01:04:30.560
<v Speaker 3>Every one of us will sin multiple times a day.</v>

01:04:30.560 --> 01:04:32.560
<v Speaker 3>Every day we sin in all sorts of ways.</v>

01:04:32.560 --> 01:04:34.480
<v Speaker 3>We have original sin.</v>

01:04:34.720 --> 01:04:38.480
<v Speaker 3>The only thing that washes that out is Christ's blood on the</v>

01:04:38.480 --> 01:04:40.560
<v Speaker 3>cross. That is the gospel.</v>

01:04:40.560 --> 01:04:43.040
<v Speaker 3>The only thing that saves us is Christ.</v>

01:04:43.040 --> 01:04:47.520
<v Speaker 3>Nevertheless, as Christians, we must keep his commandments.</v>

01:04:47.520 --> 01:04:50.720
<v Speaker 3>Now, must doesn't mean or you're not saved.</v>

01:04:50.720 --> 01:04:53.040
<v Speaker 3>This is the hard part here, or the easy part.</v>

01:04:53.040 --> 01:04:54.400
<v Speaker 3>Like it's not tricky.</v>

01:04:54.400 --> 01:04:57.360
<v Speaker 3>Yes, you must keep his commandments, and yes, you will fail, and</v>

01:04:57.360 --> 01:04:58.960
<v Speaker 3>yes, you must keep them anyway.</v>

01:04:58.960 --> 01:05:02.320
<v Speaker 3>That's not a source for despair, because the salvation has already taken</v>

01:05:02.400 --> 01:05:04.480
<v Speaker 3>place at the cross.</v>

01:05:04.480 --> 01:05:08.000
<v Speaker 3>When we have faith, we receive the gift that was given on</v>

01:05:08.000 --> 01:05:10.480
<v Speaker 3>the cross, and we know that we're saved.</v>

01:05:10.480 --> 01:05:14.400
<v Speaker 3>And in that context, keeping God's commandments is joyous.</v>

01:05:14.400 --> 01:05:18.240
<v Speaker 3>Here's why it's so deadly to use the definition from John 4</v>

01:05:18.480 --> 01:05:20.880
<v Speaker 3>against the definition in John 2.</v>

01:05:20.880 --> 01:05:24.560
<v Speaker 3>If your only definition, which is the typical one for most Christians,</v>

01:05:24.560 --> 01:05:27.520
<v Speaker 3>every spirit that confesses that Jesus Christ has come in the flesh</v>

01:05:27.520 --> 01:05:28.560
<v Speaker 3>is from God.</v>

01:05:28.560 --> 01:05:29.280
<v Speaker 3>Okay, great.</v>

01:05:29.280 --> 01:05:30.240
<v Speaker 3>That's all our pastors.</v>

01:05:30.240 --> 01:05:33.520
<v Speaker 3>That's everybody who says he's a Christian confesses Jesus came from God.</v>

01:05:33.520 --> 01:05:34.320
<v Speaker 3>Okay, fine.</v>

01:05:34.320 --> 01:05:36.080
<v Speaker 3>Look what we find in Luke 4.</v>

01:05:36.080 --> 01:05:38.400
<v Speaker 3>And in the synagogue there was a man who had the spirit</v>

01:05:38.400 --> 01:05:41.360
<v Speaker 3>of an unclean demon, and he cried out with a loud voice,</v>

01:05:41.360 --> 01:05:44.240
<v Speaker 3>Ha, what have you to do with us, Jesus of Nazareth?</v>

01:05:44.240 --> 01:05:45.680
<v Speaker 3>Have you come to destroy us?</v>

01:05:45.680 --> 01:05:48.320
<v Speaker 3>I know who you are, the holy one of God.</v>

01:05:48.320 --> 01:05:50.960
<v Speaker 3>But Jesus rebuked him, saying, Be silent and come out of him.</v>

01:05:51.760 --> 01:05:56.880
<v Speaker 3>This demon confessed Jesus precisely the way first John 4 says to.</v>

01:05:56.880 --> 01:06:00.080
<v Speaker 3>He said, You are Jesus of Nazareth, you are the holy one</v>

01:06:00.240 --> 01:06:01.040
<v Speaker 3>of God.</v>

01:06:01.040 --> 01:06:04.240
<v Speaker 3>That was the very confession in John 4 that we're told is</v>

01:06:04.400 --> 01:06:07.120
<v Speaker 3>saving. Then this is coming from a demon.</v>

01:06:07.120 --> 01:06:12.720
<v Speaker 3>Why? Because he was noting a fact, but he did not keep</v>

01:06:12.720 --> 01:06:14.080
<v Speaker 3>God's commandments.</v>

01:06:14.080 --> 01:06:15.360
<v Speaker 3>Demons are liars.</v>

01:06:15.360 --> 01:06:18.160
<v Speaker 3>They are always and ever set against God.</v>

01:06:18.160 --> 01:06:20.720
<v Speaker 3>And so the reason he was hanging out in a synagogue and</v>

01:06:20.720 --> 01:06:23.760
<v Speaker 3>then screaming only when Jesus showed up, because that was the first</v>

01:06:23.760 --> 01:06:26.080
<v Speaker 3>time there was any holiness in that place.</v>

01:06:26.080 --> 01:06:30.080
<v Speaker 3>Jesus came into a synagogue where he often found demon-possessed men hanging</v>

01:06:30.080 --> 01:06:31.360
<v Speaker 3>out quite casually.</v>

01:06:31.360 --> 01:06:35.040
<v Speaker 3>They're very comfortable until a Christian walked in, and then they freak</v>

01:06:35.040 --> 01:06:36.400
<v Speaker 3>out and start shouting.</v>

01:06:36.400 --> 01:06:38.400
<v Speaker 3>That's a subject for another day.</v>

01:06:38.400 --> 01:06:42.400
<v Speaker 3>But the confession of this demon is the same as the confession</v>

01:06:42.400 --> 01:06:43.680
<v Speaker 3>of many clerics.</v>

01:06:43.680 --> 01:06:46.720
<v Speaker 3>They say, Yeah, Jesus of Nazareth, he's the Holy One of God.</v>

01:06:46.720 --> 01:06:47.680
<v Speaker 3>Okay, great.</v>

01:06:47.680 --> 01:06:50.720
<v Speaker 3>Do you say that we keep God's commandments or we're liars?</v>

01:06:50.720 --> 01:06:54.560
<v Speaker 3>No. So do you see how truth and lies are in all</v>

01:06:54.560 --> 01:06:55.360
<v Speaker 3>of these things?</v>

01:06:55.360 --> 01:06:57.520
<v Speaker 3>It is all it is always the test of if you're a</v>

01:06:57.520 --> 01:07:00.640
<v Speaker 3>liar, you disagree with anything God says.</v>

01:07:00.640 --> 01:07:02.080
<v Speaker 3>Not the gospel.</v>

01:07:02.080 --> 01:07:05.680
<v Speaker 3>It's very often the case, it's almost always the case, that the</v>

01:07:05.680 --> 01:07:08.960
<v Speaker 3>things that are lied about in Scripture by evil men, the things</v>

01:07:08.960 --> 01:07:12.000
<v Speaker 3>that are denounced as lies are not about the gospel.</v>

01:07:12.000 --> 01:07:13.520
<v Speaker 3>They're not about how we're saved.</v>

01:07:13.520 --> 01:07:15.760
<v Speaker 3>They're not about even who Jesus is.</v>

01:07:15.760 --> 01:07:18.800
<v Speaker 3>They're about whatever it's going to take to get you to wander.</v>

01:07:18.800 --> 01:07:22.080
<v Speaker 3>And that is why Corey and I have such an adamacy about</v>

01:07:22.080 --> 01:07:22.880
<v Speaker 3>the truth.</v>

01:07:22.880 --> 01:07:26.560
<v Speaker 3>If you're laser focused on all things that are true and only</v>

01:07:26.560 --> 01:07:30.480
<v Speaker 3>those things that are true, there's no room for you to wander.</v>

01:07:30.480 --> 01:07:32.080
<v Speaker 3>And no one can do it perfectly.</v>

01:07:32.080 --> 01:07:34.880
<v Speaker 3>It's an impossible task, even to try to just focus only on</v>

01:07:34.880 --> 01:07:35.840
<v Speaker 3>what's true.</v>

01:07:35.840 --> 01:07:38.480
<v Speaker 3>And frankly, as human beings, we don't have the capacity to do</v>

01:07:38.480 --> 01:07:39.280
<v Speaker 3>that all the time.</v>

01:07:39.280 --> 01:07:40.160
<v Speaker 3>We need a break.</v>

01:07:40.160 --> 01:07:41.520
<v Speaker 3>Everybody needs a break.</v>

01:07:41.520 --> 01:07:44.560
<v Speaker 3>It's not that you have to go 100% 24-7.</v>

01:07:44.560 --> 01:07:46.960
<v Speaker 3>You would die if you tried to do that.</v>

01:07:46.960 --> 01:07:49.040
<v Speaker 3>We're not exhorting perfection.</v>

01:07:49.040 --> 01:07:50.480
<v Speaker 3>We're exhorting obedience.</v>

01:07:50.640 --> 01:07:53.040
<v Speaker 3>And that simply begins with saying, when God said it, that means</v>

01:07:53.040 --> 01:07:53.760
<v Speaker 3>it's true.</v>

01:07:53.760 --> 01:07:56.800
<v Speaker 3>And I love it because I love God and the truth is</v>

01:07:56.800 --> 01:07:57.600
<v Speaker 3>in me.</v>

01:07:57.600 --> 01:08:01.440
<v Speaker 3>When we see something that's true, like whoever doesn't keep his commandments</v>

01:08:01.520 --> 01:08:04.000
<v Speaker 3>is a liar and the truth is not in him.</v>

01:08:04.000 --> 01:08:08.880
<v Speaker 3>Love responds to that with joy to receive that truth with gladness.</v>

01:08:08.880 --> 01:08:12.240
<v Speaker 3>This is basic Christian preaching that you never hear.</v>

01:08:12.240 --> 01:08:15.440
<v Speaker 3>You do not hear clerics and pastors talking about this stuff.</v>

01:08:15.440 --> 01:08:16.560
<v Speaker 3>They should be.</v>

01:08:16.560 --> 01:08:20.320
<v Speaker 3>This is the stuff that is most urgently needed today.</v>

01:08:20.320 --> 01:08:23.520
<v Speaker 3>We need to hear that we have to obey God or we're</v>

01:08:23.520 --> 01:08:26.000
<v Speaker 3>liars. When do we take lying seriously?</v>

01:08:26.000 --> 01:08:27.120
<v Speaker 3>Oh, I don't lie about change.</v>

01:08:27.600 --> 01:08:29.600
<v Speaker 3>I don't make stories up and hurt people.</v>

01:08:29.600 --> 01:08:31.200
<v Speaker 3>I'm not a liar.</v>

01:08:31.200 --> 01:08:33.440
<v Speaker 3>Do you ever lie about any of these things that are basic</v>

01:08:33.440 --> 01:08:34.800
<v Speaker 3>observable truths?</v>

01:08:34.800 --> 01:08:37.680
<v Speaker 3>Do you ever lie about anything that's in the scripture?</v>

01:08:37.920 --> 01:08:41.760
<v Speaker 3>Of course you do, knowingly or unknowingly, it's almost always unknowingly.</v>

01:08:41.760 --> 01:08:43.760
<v Speaker 3>We're capable of making mistakes.</v>

01:08:43.760 --> 01:08:46.480
<v Speaker 3>And they can be a mistake that wasn't intentional.</v>

01:08:46.480 --> 01:08:50.560
<v Speaker 3>The intent doesn't matter because Satan is the father of lies.</v>

01:08:50.560 --> 01:08:52.400
<v Speaker 3>He originates every lie.</v>

01:08:52.400 --> 01:08:56.640
<v Speaker 3>Every Every lie has a father and his father's name is Satan.</v>

01:08:56.640 --> 01:09:00.880
<v Speaker 3>The lie comes from hell because it causes us to wander.</v>

01:09:00.880 --> 01:09:03.680
<v Speaker 3>And note that wandering is a matter of degrees.</v>

01:09:03.680 --> 01:09:05.680
<v Speaker 3>The wandering is always small.</v>

01:09:05.680 --> 01:09:07.360
<v Speaker 3>It's just a little bit and a little bit and a little</v>

01:09:07.360 --> 01:09:11.920
<v Speaker 3>bit. It's almost never going from zero to a hundred.</v>

01:09:11.920 --> 01:09:16.880
<v Speaker 3>No one goes from pursuing perfect truth to pursuing perfect evil.</v>

01:09:16.880 --> 01:09:20.320
<v Speaker 3>That big sloppy area in the middle where all the opinions are</v>

01:09:20.320 --> 01:09:23.280
<v Speaker 3>hanging out, where they're not opinions at all, but that's what we</v>

01:09:23.280 --> 01:09:25.840
<v Speaker 3>think. That's where people get sloppy.</v>

01:09:25.840 --> 01:09:28.640
<v Speaker 3>That's where they get messy because they think, ah, it's fine.</v>

01:09:28.640 --> 01:09:33.200
<v Speaker 3>That is Satan's playground because that place of wandering is the place</v>

01:09:33.200 --> 01:09:35.520
<v Speaker 3>where all these errors creep in.</v>

01:09:35.520 --> 01:09:38.720
<v Speaker 3>And any error, see you call it an error, you can call</v>

01:09:38.720 --> 01:09:40.720
<v Speaker 3>it a lie, you call it a mistake.</v>

01:09:40.720 --> 01:09:43.840
<v Speaker 3>The bottom line is if it is not true as opposed to</v>

01:09:43.840 --> 01:09:45.760
<v Speaker 3>God, that's an impossible bar.</v>

01:09:45.760 --> 01:09:52.160
<v Speaker 3>Logic and reason plus scripture give us access to almost everything that</v>

01:09:52.160 --> 01:09:53.440
<v Speaker 3>we need to understand.</v>

01:09:53.440 --> 01:09:55.600
<v Speaker 3>There are things in scripture that are mysteries.</v>

01:09:55.600 --> 01:09:58.640
<v Speaker 3>We've talked on many occasions about things that when you look at</v>

01:09:58.640 --> 01:10:01.920
<v Speaker 3>everything that scripture says, all you can do is say amen, I</v>

01:10:01.920 --> 01:10:03.680
<v Speaker 3>don't get it, and I believe it anyway.</v>

01:10:03.680 --> 01:10:06.480
<v Speaker 3>There are a few places where that's how it works when you're</v>

01:10:06.480 --> 01:10:11.920
<v Speaker 3>talking about the supernatural, about Christ's nature, about communion.</v>

01:10:11.920 --> 01:10:14.480
<v Speaker 3>The only way to understand it is to say something that is</v>

01:10:14.480 --> 01:10:17.200
<v Speaker 3>objectively irrational.</v>

01:10:17.200 --> 01:10:20.320
<v Speaker 3>Fully God and fully man, but it's not two separate things, it's</v>

01:10:20.320 --> 01:10:21.040
<v Speaker 3>one thing.</v>

01:10:21.040 --> 01:10:22.480
<v Speaker 3>All we can do is say that.</v>

01:10:22.480 --> 01:10:24.000
<v Speaker 3>We can't make sense of it.</v>

01:10:24.160 --> 01:10:26.320
<v Speaker 3>If you think you have it figured out, you're probably in trouble</v>

01:10:26.480 --> 01:10:28.960
<v Speaker 3>because I promise you it doesn't make sense.</v>

01:10:28.960 --> 01:10:31.520
<v Speaker 3>You can say what's true, and we must.</v>

01:10:31.520 --> 01:10:35.200
<v Speaker 3>That's why we were given the creeds by faithful Christians fifteen hundred</v>

01:10:35.200 --> 01:10:38.160
<v Speaker 3>years ago Every word of the creeds is true.</v>

01:10:38.160 --> 01:10:39.120
<v Speaker 3>You know what's interesting?</v>

01:10:39.120 --> 01:10:40.960
<v Speaker 3>I'm not going to do it for the sake of time here</v>

01:10:40.960 --> 01:10:44.240
<v Speaker 3>today. Go read the Apostles' Creed and the Nicene Creed.</v>

01:10:44.240 --> 01:10:47.360
<v Speaker 3>The Apostles' Creed doesn't have a word of gospel in it.</v>

01:10:47.360 --> 01:10:51.200
<v Speaker 3>It's the definition of Christianity and it talks about who God is.</v>

01:10:51.200 --> 01:10:54.480
<v Speaker 3>Now I'm not saying anything negative about the gospel here.</v>

01:10:54.480 --> 01:10:59.920
<v Speaker 3>I'm saying that God, as he defines himself, is about more than</v>

01:10:59.920 --> 01:11:01.440
<v Speaker 3>just saving us.</v>

01:11:01.440 --> 01:11:04.800
<v Speaker 3>He saves us because he loves us because he is love.</v>

01:11:04.800 --> 01:11:06.320
<v Speaker 3>And that is the truth in scripture.</v>

01:11:06.320 --> 01:11:07.600
<v Speaker 3>That is the truth of the gospel.</v>

01:11:07.600 --> 01:11:10.240
<v Speaker 3>It's revealed to us only in scripture.</v>

01:11:10.240 --> 01:11:10.960
<v Speaker 3>Nowhere else.</v>

01:11:11.200 --> 01:11:15.040
<v Speaker 3>Never in the natural world will you discover that God loves you</v>

01:11:15.040 --> 01:11:17.040
<v Speaker 3>so much that he died for you on the cross?</v>

01:11:17.040 --> 01:11:18.880
<v Speaker 3>You can only find that in Scripture.</v>

01:11:18.880 --> 01:11:21.360
<v Speaker 3>But where do you find Scripture in reality?</v>

01:11:21.360 --> 01:11:24.640
<v Speaker 3>You find it in a book on a shelf.</v>

01:11:24.640 --> 01:11:30.000
<v Speaker 3>When we don't take truth as seriously as God commands us to,</v>

01:11:30.000 --> 01:11:32.240
<v Speaker 3>we're naturally going to wander.</v>

01:11:32.560 --> 01:11:34.160
<v Speaker 3>it's always gonna happen.</v>

01:11:34.160 --> 01:11:36.640
<v Speaker 3>And so, as we've said a couple times, I want to reiterate</v>

01:11:36.640 --> 01:11:41.120
<v Speaker 3>it again: a lot of people should have a lot fewer opinions.</v>

01:11:41.120 --> 01:11:44.640
<v Speaker 3>Don't be so quick to have an opinion, including about anything that</v>

01:11:44.640 --> 01:11:45.040
<v Speaker 3>we say.</v>

01:11:45.040 --> 01:11:47.680
<v Speaker 3>We've said from the very beginning, don't just believe us because you</v>

01:11:47.680 --> 01:11:50.080
<v Speaker 3>heard it and it sounded like a really good argument.</v>

01:11:50.080 --> 01:11:53.200
<v Speaker 3>Believe it because you're convinced that it's true.</v>

01:11:53.200 --> 01:11:57.760
<v Speaker 3>When that switch flips and you're like, oh man, that explains it.</v>

01:11:57.760 --> 01:12:01.280
<v Speaker 3>I didn't get it before and suddenly it just clicks.</v>

01:12:01.280 --> 01:12:03.280
<v Speaker 3>That is the truth in action.</v>

01:12:03.280 --> 01:12:05.600
<v Speaker 3>And that's got nothing to do with where you heard it or</v>

01:12:05.600 --> 01:12:06.640
<v Speaker 3>where you read it.</v>

01:12:06.640 --> 01:12:08.640
<v Speaker 3>It's true and it's yours.</v>

01:12:08.640 --> 01:12:11.360
<v Speaker 3>The truth has no owner, but it has a creator, and his</v>

01:12:11.440 --> 01:12:12.480
<v Speaker 3>name is God.</v>

01:12:12.480 --> 01:12:15.680
<v Speaker 3>Every lie ever told to cause us to wander from that truth</v>

01:12:15.920 --> 01:12:17.680
<v Speaker 3>comes from Satan.</v>

01:12:17.680 --> 01:12:21.360
<v Speaker 3>So that's the reason that both of us take lies so seriously.</v>

01:12:21.360 --> 01:12:24.080
<v Speaker 3>And that's the reason we call so many things lies.</v>

01:12:24.080 --> 01:12:26.000
<v Speaker 3>That many men are like, oh, that's a mistake.</v>

01:12:26.000 --> 01:12:26.960
<v Speaker 3>It's an error.</v>

01:12:26.960 --> 01:12:29.760
<v Speaker 3>If I come to you and say two plus two equals five,</v>

01:12:29.760 --> 01:12:30.960
<v Speaker 3>you would laugh.</v>

01:12:30.960 --> 01:12:31.920
<v Speaker 3>You would think it was absurd.</v>

01:12:31.920 --> 01:12:33.520
<v Speaker 3>I was making some joke.</v>

01:12:33.520 --> 01:12:37.040
<v Speaker 3>But if I become adamant, you probably just say I'm crazy.</v>

01:12:37.040 --> 01:12:38.080
<v Speaker 3>It is a lie.</v>

01:12:38.080 --> 01:12:40.080
<v Speaker 3>It's a demonstrable lie.</v>

01:12:40.080 --> 01:12:42.320
<v Speaker 3>Regardless of what my intention is.</v>

01:12:42.320 --> 01:12:44.240
<v Speaker 3>The things that are true are from God.</v>

01:12:44.240 --> 01:12:45.120
<v Speaker 3>Even math.</v>

01:12:45.120 --> 01:12:46.560
<v Speaker 3>Math is true.</v>

01:12:46.560 --> 01:12:49.760
<v Speaker 3>One of the reasons that the pure sciences, the hard sciences, have</v>

01:12:49.760 --> 01:12:52.800
<v Speaker 3>a lot of appeal to rational men.</v>

01:12:52.800 --> 01:12:56.800
<v Speaker 3>It's the reason that men dominate those fields almost not exclusively anymore,</v>

01:12:56.800 --> 01:12:59.760
<v Speaker 3>but still very heavily, is that they are so heavily dominated by</v>

01:12:59.760 --> 01:13:02.800
<v Speaker 3>reason. There's no subjectivity in math.</v>

01:13:02.800 --> 01:13:05.360
<v Speaker 3>There's no subjectivity in engineering.</v>

01:13:05.360 --> 01:13:09.920
<v Speaker 3>There's subjectivity in the art of how pretty a bridge is, but</v>

01:13:10.240 --> 01:13:15.360
<v Speaker 3>the mathematical forms and the equations to achieve a safe bridge, those</v>

01:13:15.360 --> 01:13:16.320
<v Speaker 3>are absolute.</v>

01:13:16.320 --> 01:13:19.280
<v Speaker 3>And you violate those and you can guarantee that that bridge will</v>

01:13:19.280 --> 01:13:20.640
<v Speaker 3>fall. That's true.</v>

01:13:20.640 --> 01:13:21.600
<v Speaker 3>That's truth.</v>

01:13:21.600 --> 01:13:23.360
<v Speaker 3>It's got nothing to do with salvation.</v>

01:13:23.360 --> 01:13:25.360
<v Speaker 3>Not talking about the gospel at all.</v>

01:13:25.360 --> 01:13:29.200
<v Speaker 3>But if you have a gospel-centered engineer building your bridge, don't ever</v>

01:13:29.200 --> 01:13:30.400
<v Speaker 3>cross it.</v>

01:13:30.400 --> 01:13:33.280
<v Speaker 3>You need an engineer here who cares about the truth who's focused</v>

01:13:33.280 --> 01:13:35.440
<v Speaker 3>on that because that's his job.</v>

01:13:35.440 --> 01:13:39.200
<v Speaker 3>The gospel is necessary for those who think they can save themselves</v>

01:13:39.360 --> 01:13:41.520
<v Speaker 3>or don't know they need salvation at all.</v>

01:13:41.520 --> 01:13:44.640
<v Speaker 3>And we constantly need to have that faith renewed.</v>

01:13:44.640 --> 01:13:46.640
<v Speaker 3>But it's not everything there is to say.</v>

01:13:46.640 --> 01:13:51.200
<v Speaker 3>Don't let someone come along and distract you just a Satan distracted</v>

01:13:51.200 --> 01:13:54.000
<v Speaker 3>Eve with the wrong question at the wrong time.</v>

01:13:54.000 --> 01:13:57.600
<v Speaker 3>Because that trick is exactly why every one of us is condemned</v>

01:13:57.600 --> 01:13:58.800
<v Speaker 3>to death.</v>

01:13:59.760 --> 01:14:04.240
<v Speaker 2>Some of these things may seem like relatively minor matters.</v>

01:14:04.240 --> 01:14:08.160
<v Speaker 2>For instance, two plus two equals four is true.</v>

01:14:08.160 --> 01:14:10.480
<v Speaker 2>Two plus two equals five is false.</v>

01:14:10.480 --> 01:14:12.640
<v Speaker 2>That may seem like a minor matter to you.</v>

01:14:12.640 --> 01:14:16.400
<v Speaker 2>As Will was saying, if you're building a bridge, that error, that</v>

01:14:16.880 --> 01:14:19.200
<v Speaker 2>lie is no longer a minor matter.</v>

01:14:19.200 --> 01:14:22.080
<v Speaker 2>The same is true with regard to so many of these things</v>

01:14:22.080 --> 01:14:25.520
<v Speaker 2>that we encounter in our everyday lives.</v>

01:14:25.520 --> 01:14:30.960
<v Speaker 2>If someone says something that is false, it may be obviously false.</v>

01:14:30.960 --> 01:14:34.400
<v Speaker 2>It may not be obviously false, but still false.</v>

01:14:34.400 --> 01:14:36.480
<v Speaker 2>It may seem something small.</v>

01:14:36.480 --> 01:14:39.440
<v Speaker 2>It may seem like a matter that you can just set aside</v>

01:14:39.440 --> 01:14:41.680
<v Speaker 2>or let slide.</v>

01:14:41.680 --> 01:14:43.120
<v Speaker 2>But the question is always</v>

01:14:44.000 --> 01:14:46.080
<v Speaker 2>where does that lead?</v>

01:14:46.080 --> 01:14:52.320
<v Speaker 2>What are the consequences of that false belief, of that lie?</v>

01:14:52.320 --> 01:14:59.760
<v Speaker 2>Even minor errors or small lies, depending on perhaps the intent</v>

01:14:59.760 --> 01:15:07.680
<v Speaker 2>here. But even small lies over time can build into something monstrous.</v>

01:15:07.680 --> 01:15:11.280
<v Speaker 2>The Reformation was not undoing</v>

01:15:12.240 --> 01:15:19.040
<v Speaker 2>an error of false teaching, a lie, of a year ago, or</v>

01:15:19.040 --> 01:15:21.440
<v Speaker 2>a decade, or even a century.</v>

01:15:21.840 --> 01:15:29.600
<v Speaker 2>Satan built up false teaching in the church over centuries.</v>

01:15:29.600 --> 01:15:33.440
<v Speaker 2>He does the same thing in society, and we see the fruits</v>

01:15:33.440 --> 01:15:35.360
<v Speaker 2>of that today.</v>

01:15:35.360 --> 01:15:40.880
<v Speaker 2>All the little false things that he injected into society over centuries</v>

01:15:40.880 --> 01:15:45.680
<v Speaker 2>are coming to a head, and many Christian men are defending the</v>

01:15:45.680 --> 01:15:48.240
<v Speaker 2>outcome of all of those lies.</v>

01:15:48.240 --> 01:15:49.360
<v Speaker 2>They're defending the conclusions</v>

01:15:50.640 --> 01:15:54.080
<v Speaker 2>because they aren't examining the etymology.</v>

01:15:54.080 --> 01:15:57.920
<v Speaker 2>They aren't examining the pedigree of the things they believe.</v>

01:15:57.920 --> 01:16:02.160
<v Speaker 2>A good example of this that comes from everyday life, as it</v>

01:16:02.160 --> 01:16:05.440
<v Speaker 2>were, something with which many of you will be familiar, in some</v>

01:16:05.440 --> 01:16:08.880
<v Speaker 2>cases, perhaps even firsthand.</v>

01:16:08.880 --> 01:16:14.240
<v Speaker 2>We have lost spacecraft because of a minor imperfection in the heat</v>

01:16:14.800 --> 01:16:21.120
<v Speaker 2>shielding. You could be missing a few tiles, if it happens to</v>

01:16:21.120 --> 01:16:24.160
<v Speaker 2>be in the wrong place, and you can lose a billion dollar</v>

01:16:24.400 --> 01:16:28.480
<v Speaker 2>spacecraft. We've had minor miscalculations</v>

01:16:29.360 --> 01:16:34.640
<v Speaker 2>and slammed things into Mars at ballistic speed instead of landing on</v>

01:16:34.640 --> 01:16:36.320
<v Speaker 2>the planet.</v>

01:16:36.320 --> 01:16:42.160
<v Speaker 2>These are the sorts of things that happen with seemingly minor errors,</v>

01:16:42.160 --> 01:16:48.400
<v Speaker 2>seemingly minor falsehoods, somewhere at some point, perhaps far back in some</v>

01:16:48.400 --> 01:16:54.880
<v Speaker 2>cases. Things that are minor or seem minor often are not so,</v>

01:16:54.880 --> 01:16:59.840
<v Speaker 2>and particularly when it comes to matters of the truth, because again,</v>

01:16:59.840 --> 01:17:01.120
<v Speaker 2>any lie</v>

01:17:02.080 --> 01:17:07.520
<v Speaker 2>is lying about the things of God, because all truth flows from</v>

01:17:07.520 --> 01:17:07.760
<v Speaker 2>God.</v>

01:17:08.800 --> 01:17:12.800
<v Speaker 2>That is why God hates lying lips.</v>

01:17:12.800 --> 01:17:20.320
<v Speaker 2>God hates liars, because liars are necessarily lying ultimately about God.</v>

01:17:20.320 --> 01:17:21.680
<v Speaker 2>Think of the words of David.</v>

01:17:21.680 --> 01:17:25.120
<v Speaker 2>Against you you only have I sinned.</v>

01:17:25.120 --> 01:17:29.040
<v Speaker 2>Yes, you are harming others with your sins, because don't forget David</v>

01:17:29.040 --> 01:17:33.440
<v Speaker 2>was saying that after he stole a man's wife and had him</v>

01:17:33.440 --> 01:17:37.920
<v Speaker 2>murdered. So certainly he sinned against the man as well, but ultimately</v>

01:17:37.920 --> 01:17:40.800
<v Speaker 2>speaking, all sin is against God.</v>

01:17:40.800 --> 01:17:44.960
<v Speaker 2>And so of course all lies in the sense we're using this</v>

01:17:45.120 --> 01:17:46.000
<v Speaker 2>are against God.</v>

01:17:46.000 --> 01:17:49.360
<v Speaker 2>I want to give that carve out I mentioned earlier.</v>

01:17:49.360 --> 01:17:53.920
<v Speaker 2>The most obvious example would be I'll give a very easy one</v>

01:17:53.920 --> 01:17:56.400
<v Speaker 2>to grasp, a blunt one.</v>

01:17:56.400 --> 01:18:00.560
<v Speaker 2>If you work in criminal law and you are a detective or</v>

01:18:00.560 --> 01:18:04.800
<v Speaker 2>a DA, be most likely one of those two, and you happen</v>

01:18:04.800 --> 01:18:09.920
<v Speaker 2>to be dealing with a particularly gruesome crime scene, you do not</v>

01:18:09.920 --> 01:18:11.040
<v Speaker 2>need to give all</v>

01:18:12.000 --> 01:18:16.240
<v Speaker 2>and exact information to the family of the victim.</v>

01:18:16.240 --> 01:18:19.120
<v Speaker 2>It may very well be that some of the things you say</v>

01:18:19.120 --> 01:18:23.520
<v Speaker 2>are in fact lies, but those would be those lies earlier that</v>

01:18:24.000 --> 01:18:27.040
<v Speaker 2>mentioned, with the beneficial intent.</v>

01:18:27.040 --> 01:18:28.960
<v Speaker 2>Those are not in view here.</v>

01:18:28.960 --> 01:18:33.920
<v Speaker 2>Some of those things are necessary simply to keep society running as</v>

01:18:33.920 --> 01:18:35.200
<v Speaker 2>best we can.</v>

01:18:35.200 --> 01:18:37.120
<v Speaker 2>That's not what's in view here.</v>

01:18:37.120 --> 01:18:42.240
<v Speaker 2>We're talking about things where you are lying about reality in a</v>

01:18:42.240 --> 01:18:47.600
<v Speaker 2>destructive way, in a harmful way, a deceitful way, a malicious way.</v>

01:18:47.600 --> 01:18:51.040
<v Speaker 2>The kind of lies that Satan tells.</v>

01:18:51.040 --> 01:18:57.280
<v Speaker 2>And even these small lies, again, build up over time.</v>

01:18:57.280 --> 01:19:02.640
<v Speaker 2>These sorts of things, in fact many great sins, as it were,</v>

01:19:02.640 --> 01:19:05.920
<v Speaker 2>don't start off as a big sin.</v>

01:19:05.920 --> 01:19:09.680
<v Speaker 2>They start off as something small.</v>

01:19:09.680 --> 01:19:15.680
<v Speaker 2>Don Giovanni or Lithario doesn't open up his opening line isn't would</v>

01:19:15.760 --> 01:19:18.080
<v Speaker 2>you like to go commit adultery?</v>

01:19:18.080 --> 01:19:21.120
<v Speaker 2>That's not how these things work.</v>

01:19:21.120 --> 01:19:24.320
<v Speaker 2>These things start off small.</v>

01:19:24.320 --> 01:19:27.600
<v Speaker 2>False teaching in the church starts off small.</v>

01:19:27.600 --> 01:19:30.880
<v Speaker 2>It's not It's the wrong emphasis on an answer.</v>

01:19:30.880 --> 01:19:35.920
<v Speaker 2>It's the wrong wording of a question, perhaps maliciously.</v>

01:19:35.920 --> 01:19:38.880
<v Speaker 2>In the case of the question it may be that Satan is</v>

01:19:38.880 --> 01:19:42.480
<v Speaker 2>maliciously wording the question in order to deceive</v>

01:19:43.520 --> 01:19:47.520
<v Speaker 2>Now, wording a question in order to trap someone is not always</v>

01:19:47.520 --> 01:19:49.840
<v Speaker 2>wrongful. Intent matters.</v>

01:19:49.840 --> 01:19:53.040
<v Speaker 2>If you are a teacher, and particularly if you are a teacher</v>

01:19:53.040 --> 01:19:57.120
<v Speaker 2>of teachers, it may very well be that you should ask some</v>

01:19:57.120 --> 01:20:02.320
<v Speaker 2>questions that are traps, because you are instructing your students to be</v>

01:20:02.320 --> 01:20:07.200
<v Speaker 2>wary of those things, to be prepared for them, that intent matters.</v>

01:20:07.200 --> 01:20:11.680
<v Speaker 2>But Satan, when he uses these things, he knows where he's going.</v>

01:20:11.680 --> 01:20:13.920
<v Speaker 2>He knows what he wants to accomplish.</v>

01:20:13.920 --> 01:20:17.760
<v Speaker 2>He is attempting to lead you astray, to lead the church astray,</v>

01:20:17.760 --> 01:20:20.080
<v Speaker 2>to lead society astray.</v>

01:20:20.080 --> 01:20:23.760
<v Speaker 2>And so lying about things that may seem small, that may seem</v>

01:20:23.760 --> 01:20:28.560
<v Speaker 2>minor, that may seem like something over which there's no real reason</v>

01:20:28.560 --> 01:20:30.320
<v Speaker 2>to fight.</v>

01:20:30.320 --> 01:20:32.400
<v Speaker 2>That may be how it starts.</v>

01:20:32.400 --> 01:20:34.560
<v Speaker 2>That is never where it ends.</v>

01:20:35.280 --> 01:20:40.560
<v Speaker 2>Because sins compound, sins get worse, as we have mentioned so many</v>

01:20:40.560 --> 01:20:45.520
<v Speaker 2>times, in life, in all things, and for all things, not just</v>

01:20:45.520 --> 01:20:50.960
<v Speaker 2>for human beings, but for nations, for civilizations, for empires, for organizations,</v>

01:20:50.960 --> 01:20:52.240
<v Speaker 2>for churches.</v>

01:20:52.240 --> 01:20:56.720
<v Speaker 2>You are always headed Godward or hellward.</v>

01:20:56.720 --> 01:20:58.560
<v Speaker 2>There is no other option.</v>

01:20:58.560 --> 01:21:01.760
<v Speaker 2>You cannot stand still in this life.</v>

01:21:01.760 --> 01:21:04.720
<v Speaker 2>The only thing that stands still is death.</v>

01:21:04.720 --> 01:21:06.560
<v Speaker 2>Life doesn't stand still.</v>

01:21:06.560 --> 01:21:10.160
<v Speaker 2>And so you are moving in one direction or the other.</v>

01:21:10.880 --> 01:21:15.120
<v Speaker 2>If you are supporting, and most certainly if you are telling, echoing,</v>

01:21:15.120 --> 01:21:22.160
<v Speaker 2>supporting, defending lies, you are moving hellward because you are certainly moving</v>

01:21:22.160 --> 01:21:24.080
<v Speaker 2>away from God.</v>

01:21:24.080 --> 01:21:28.880
<v Speaker 2>And so defending the truth is a worthy endeavor, even if it</v>

01:21:28.880 --> 01:21:30.960
<v Speaker 2>seems like a small truth.</v>

01:21:30.960 --> 01:21:33.680
<v Speaker 2>Why would you give Satan the opening?</v>

01:21:34.240 --> 01:21:37.520
<v Speaker 2>Oh it's just a chink in the armor.</v>

01:21:37.520 --> 01:21:39.120
<v Speaker 2>Why would you permit that?</v>

01:21:39.520 --> 01:21:41.760
<v Speaker 2>Why would you leave that weakness?</v>

01:21:41.760 --> 01:21:46.400
<v Speaker 2>You don't leave an opening for Satan.</v>

01:21:46.400 --> 01:21:49.520
<v Speaker 2>Perhaps it's because I live in the South, but one of the</v>

01:21:49.520 --> 01:21:53.360
<v Speaker 2>examples that immediately springs to mind is mosquito netting, or perhaps it's</v>

01:21:53.280 --> 01:21:55.840
<v Speaker 2>because I like camping.</v>

01:21:55.840 --> 01:21:59.200
<v Speaker 2>You don't leave a two centimeter or even a one centimeter hole</v>

01:21:59.200 --> 01:22:00.800
<v Speaker 2>in your mosquito net.</v>

01:22:00.800 --> 01:22:05.120
<v Speaker 2>Because if you do that, the net is worthless.</v>

01:22:05.120 --> 01:22:09.600
<v Speaker 2>You haven't accomplished anything because the mosquitoes will definitely find that opening,</v>

01:22:09.600 --> 01:22:13.120
<v Speaker 2>as everyone who lives in an area with mosquitoes knows full well.</v>

01:22:13.120 --> 01:22:15.200
<v Speaker 2>You do not leave a chink in the armor.</v>

01:22:15.200 --> 01:22:20.080
<v Speaker 2>You You do not leave somewhere undefended, particularly when you are dealing</v>

01:22:20.080 --> 01:22:25.520
<v Speaker 2>with an enemy that is as intent on finding that opening, that</v>

01:22:25.520 --> 01:22:29.440
<v Speaker 2>is as persistent as a mosquito or Satan.</v>

01:22:29.440 --> 01:22:32.160
<v Speaker 2>Satan is going to find the opening.</v>

01:22:32.160 --> 01:22:35.680
<v Speaker 2>It's one of the reasons that he identifies with the serpent and</v>

01:22:35.680 --> 01:22:37.920
<v Speaker 2>is described as a serpent.</v>

01:22:37.920 --> 01:22:42.160
<v Speaker 2>Everyone who knows about snakes knows if the head fits, the snake</v>

01:22:42.160 --> 01:22:46.080
<v Speaker 2>fits. If the snake can get its head through an opening, the</v>

01:22:46.080 --> 01:22:48.640
<v Speaker 2>rest of the snake is going to follow, and it's getting in</v>

01:22:48.640 --> 01:22:50.720
<v Speaker 2>wherever that place is.</v>

01:22:50.720 --> 01:22:55.280
<v Speaker 2>So if you leave an opening, in, say, your chicken coop, if</v>

01:22:55.280 --> 01:22:58.480
<v Speaker 2>you live in an area where snakes steal your chickens, if it's</v>

01:22:58.480 --> 01:23:02.880
<v Speaker 2>big enough for the snake's head, you're losing your chickens.</v>

01:23:02.880 --> 01:23:07.360
<v Speaker 2>Incidentally, raccoons are pretty devious too at squeezing through small places.</v>

01:23:07.680 --> 01:23:11.360
<v Speaker 2>But you can't leave that opening, because when you leave the opening,</v>

01:23:11.360 --> 01:23:17.360
<v Speaker 2>what seemed small at the time turns out, in hindsight, to be</v>

01:23:17.360 --> 01:23:20.320
<v Speaker 2>particularly destructive.</v>

01:23:20.320 --> 01:23:24.880
<v Speaker 2>And when it comes down to it at base, every lie comes</v>

01:23:24.880 --> 01:23:26.480
<v Speaker 2>at a cost.</v>

01:23:26.480 --> 01:23:28.960
<v Speaker 2>A number of costs, really.</v>

01:23:28.960 --> 01:23:32.720
<v Speaker 2>It may be that you do not pay the cost, although you</v>

01:23:32.720 --> 01:23:38.080
<v Speaker 2>will certainly pay the personal cost that comes with denying the truth,</v>

01:23:38.080 --> 01:23:43.520
<v Speaker 2>but someone will pay the full cost, will pay that cost each</v>

01:23:43.520 --> 01:23:45.600
<v Speaker 2>and every time.</v>

01:23:45.600 --> 01:23:48.960
<v Speaker 2>I want you to think of the example of sin.</v>

01:23:48.960 --> 01:23:52.800
<v Speaker 2>We all pay for our own sins in our own lives.</v>

01:23:52.800 --> 01:23:56.160
<v Speaker 2>There's a certain cost, a certain personal cost to sin.</v>

01:23:56.160 --> 01:23:59.840
<v Speaker 2>Some sins have significantly higher costs than others</v>

01:24:01.360 --> 01:24:04.400
<v Speaker 2>But you don't pay the full cost of that sin.</v>

01:24:04.400 --> 01:24:07.920
<v Speaker 2>You can't pay the full cost of that sin.</v>

01:24:07.920 --> 01:24:09.760
<v Speaker 2>That's good news and bad news, of course.</v>

01:24:09.760 --> 01:24:12.080
<v Speaker 2>It's bad news if you're not a Christian, it's great news if</v>

01:24:12.080 --> 01:24:12.960
<v Speaker 2>you are.</v>

01:24:12.960 --> 01:24:16.480
<v Speaker 2>Because Christ paid that full cost on the cross.</v>

01:24:16.480 --> 01:24:21.200
<v Speaker 2>Because the cost of sin, the debt owed to the truth, is</v>

01:24:21.200 --> 01:24:25.040
<v Speaker 2>infinite, and so only Christ could pay that.</v>

01:24:25.040 --> 01:24:30.480
<v Speaker 2>Those in hell are paying for their sins, but because they are</v>

01:24:30.480 --> 01:24:38.480
<v Speaker 2>finite and the debt is infinite, the punishment is also necessarily infinite.</v>

01:24:38.640 --> 01:24:44.640
<v Speaker 2>They are attempting to pay an infinite cost, an infinite debt, with</v>

01:24:44.640 --> 01:24:47.600
<v Speaker 2>a finite amount of currency.</v>

01:24:47.600 --> 01:24:50.080
<v Speaker 2>And that is why hell is eternal.</v>

01:24:50.080 --> 01:24:53.680
<v Speaker 2>And that is why it was necessary for Christ to die in</v>

01:24:53.680 --> 01:24:55.120
<v Speaker 2>our place.</v>

01:24:55.120 --> 01:25:00.480
<v Speaker 2>Because Christ being God, his worth, his value is infinite.</v>

01:25:00.480 --> 01:25:03.840
<v Speaker 2>And so he cancels the debt of sin against us.</v>

01:25:04.400 --> 01:25:09.920
<v Speaker 2>But every lie incurs a debt to the truth.</v>

01:25:09.920 --> 01:25:12.720
<v Speaker 2>Someone will pay that.</v>

01:25:12.720 --> 01:25:16.960
<v Speaker 2>In the sense that lies are sin, Christ has paid that.</v>

01:25:17.200 --> 01:25:21.920
<v Speaker 2>But do remember there are also temporal costs, and so society will</v>

01:25:21.920 --> 01:25:24.080
<v Speaker 2>pay the cost of these lies.</v>

01:25:24.080 --> 01:25:27.760
<v Speaker 2>You can see this across the world, the societies in which truth</v>

01:25:27.760 --> 01:25:30.880
<v Speaker 2>is valued, in which it is held in high esteem, in which</v>

01:25:31.360 --> 01:25:35.920
<v Speaker 2>honor matters, are better societies, those are the places you want to</v>

01:25:35.920 --> 01:25:40.640
<v Speaker 2>live. The places in which lying is as easy as one breathes,</v>

01:25:40.640 --> 01:25:41.840
<v Speaker 2>no one wants to live there.</v>

01:25:41.840 --> 01:25:45.760
<v Speaker 2>It's why they're fleeing from those locations to destroy the better ones.</v>

01:25:45.760 --> 01:25:47.520
<v Speaker 2>The truth matters.</v>

01:25:47.520 --> 01:25:52.160
<v Speaker 2>The truth will build up a society, or if you deny and</v>

01:25:52.160 --> 01:25:56.560
<v Speaker 2>denigrate the truth, that rejection of the truth, those lies will tear</v>

01:25:56.560 --> 01:25:59.600
<v Speaker 2>down and destroy society.</v>

01:25:59.600 --> 01:26:04.160
<v Speaker 2>It'll do the same thing in your life, in your relationships, in</v>

01:26:04.160 --> 01:26:07.440
<v Speaker 2>your church, in your country.</v>

01:26:07.440 --> 01:26:10.320
<v Speaker 2>The truth absolutely matters.</v>

01:26:10.320 --> 01:26:14.480
<v Speaker 2>This is not something over which Christians get to agree or disagree.</v>

01:26:14.480 --> 01:26:16.960
<v Speaker 2>This is not a matter of opinion.</v>

01:26:16.960 --> 01:26:21.280
<v Speaker 2>Speaking the truth, yes, of course, as best we can in love,</v>

01:26:21.280 --> 01:26:24.400
<v Speaker 2>but still But speaking the truth matters.</v>

01:26:24.400 --> 01:26:27.440
<v Speaker 2>And that is part of what it means to love someone is</v>

01:26:27.440 --> 01:26:29.120
<v Speaker 2>speaking the truth.</v>

01:26:29.120 --> 01:26:32.000
<v Speaker 2>I'm not talking again about those white lies.</v>

01:26:32.000 --> 01:26:35.760
<v Speaker 2>I'm talking about lying to someone in a way that is destructive</v>

01:26:35.760 --> 01:26:37.760
<v Speaker 2>or harmful.</v>

01:26:37.760 --> 01:26:40.240
<v Speaker 2>You can think of the obvious examples.</v>

01:26:40.240 --> 01:26:44.800
<v Speaker 2>If you tell a drug addict, Jesus loves you, just as you</v>

01:26:44.800 --> 01:26:47.280
<v Speaker 2>are, that's harmful.</v>

01:26:47.280 --> 01:26:51.040
<v Speaker 2>You can tell him Jesus loves him, but Jesus wants him to</v>

01:26:51.040 --> 01:26:53.120
<v Speaker 2>repent and change his ways.</v>

01:26:53.120 --> 01:26:56.320
<v Speaker 2>He doesn't want him to continue being a drug addict.</v>

01:26:56.320 --> 01:27:00.480
<v Speaker 2>He doesn't want a prostitute to continue being a prostitute, go and</v>

01:27:00.480 --> 01:27:02.080
<v Speaker 2>sin no more.</v>

01:27:02.720 --> 01:27:06.720
<v Speaker 2>Telling the person the truth matters.</v>

01:27:06.720 --> 01:27:10.800
<v Speaker 2>So you can tell a sodomite Jesus loves you.</v>

01:27:10.800 --> 01:27:16.000
<v Speaker 2>But you also have to mention Jesus hates your so-called lifestyle.</v>

01:27:16.000 --> 01:27:19.600
<v Speaker 2>He hates what you are doing because he hates sin.</v>

01:27:19.600 --> 01:27:22.160
<v Speaker 2>And yes, he also hates sinners.</v>

01:27:22.160 --> 01:27:24.880
<v Speaker 2>So you need to turn from your sin.</v>

01:27:24.880 --> 01:27:28.320
<v Speaker 2>You need to repent and be forgiven of your sin.</v>

01:27:28.320 --> 01:27:30.880
<v Speaker 2>You need to go and sin no more.</v>

01:27:30.880 --> 01:27:34.800
<v Speaker 2>It is necessary to tell that truth, because if you do not</v>

01:27:34.800 --> 01:27:38.640
<v Speaker 2>tell that truth, then you are displaying in fact not love, but</v>

01:27:38.640 --> 01:27:43.440
<v Speaker 2>hatred in the form of indifference, or if you wish to distinguish</v>

01:27:43.440 --> 01:27:50.880
<v Speaker 2>those two, indifference, which quite frankly is worse than hatred.</v>

01:27:50.880 --> 01:27:54.400
<v Speaker 2>As Christians, we need to defend the truth.</v>

01:27:54.400 --> 01:27:56.560
<v Speaker 2>We need to be known for speaking the truth.</v>

01:27:56.560 --> 01:27:59.120
<v Speaker 2>We need to be known for defending the truth.</v>

01:27:59.120 --> 01:28:02.160
<v Speaker 2>And that's not just the truth that's easy.</v>

01:28:02.160 --> 01:28:07.520
<v Speaker 2>It's not just the truth that gets you awards from polite society.</v>

01:28:07.520 --> 01:28:11.440
<v Speaker 2>It's not just going to the anti-abortion march, which is very easy</v>

01:28:11.440 --> 01:28:15.440
<v Speaker 2>for Christians to do, because Christians don't disagree on that issue.</v>

01:28:15.440 --> 01:28:18.000
<v Speaker 2>And yes, I'm saying that those who think abortion is fine are</v>

01:28:18.000 --> 01:28:20.080
<v Speaker 2>not Christians, because they aren't.</v>

01:28:20.080 --> 01:28:23.760
<v Speaker 2>They've demonstrated that in their beliefs and in their actions.</v>

01:28:23.760 --> 01:28:27.280
<v Speaker 2>But that's the easy truth to defend, because that's the one for</v>

01:28:27.280 --> 01:28:28.640
<v Speaker 2>which you get awards.</v>

01:28:28.640 --> 01:28:31.280
<v Speaker 2>That's the one for which people slap you on the back and</v>

01:28:31.280 --> 01:28:35.520
<v Speaker 2>shake your hand and say, aren't you a good person?</v>

01:28:35.520 --> 01:28:40.560
<v Speaker 2>The truths that need defended the most are those that are unpopular,</v>

01:28:40.560 --> 01:28:44.000
<v Speaker 2>those that will not get you a handshake, those that will get</v>

01:28:44.000 --> 01:28:48.400
<v Speaker 2>you shunned in polite society or cast out.</v>

01:28:48.400 --> 01:28:52.560
<v Speaker 2>Because those are the places where Satan is attacking.</v>

01:28:52.560 --> 01:28:56.320
<v Speaker 2>Satan isn't attacking the places where you can get away with speaking</v>

01:28:56.320 --> 01:28:57.600
<v Speaker 2>the truth.</v>

01:28:57.680 --> 01:28:59.200
<v Speaker 2>Why would he care?</v>

01:28:59.200 --> 01:29:00.640
<v Speaker 2>That doesn't matter.</v>

01:29:00.640 --> 01:29:05.360
<v Speaker 2>He can tear down some other section of the wall and infiltrate</v>

01:29:05.360 --> 01:29:07.040
<v Speaker 2>all of these things.</v>

01:29:07.040 --> 01:29:10.960
<v Speaker 2>Your life, your relationships, your church, your society.</v>

01:29:10.960 --> 01:29:14.880
<v Speaker 2>Because no one's paying attention to that part of the wall.</v>

01:29:14.880 --> 01:29:20.080
<v Speaker 2>Whatever is undefended, that is what Satan is going to attack.</v>

01:29:20.080 --> 01:29:24.720
<v Speaker 2>And that specifically is the place where Christian men must be ready</v>

01:29:24.720 --> 01:29:28.400
<v Speaker 2>and willing to defend the truth at all costs.</v>

01:29:29.440 --> 01:29:34.320
<v Speaker 3>One of the specific problems that we face today is that men</v>

01:29:34.320 --> 01:29:36.880
<v Speaker 3>don't really take the Word of God as seriously as they think</v>

01:29:37.520 --> 01:29:38.400
<v Speaker 3>they do.</v>

01:29:38.400 --> 01:29:41.360
<v Speaker 3>Now, the good news is that that's a very easy thing to</v>

01:29:41.360 --> 01:29:45.040
<v Speaker 3>reframe. Okay, you love scripture, you love every word from the mouth</v>

01:29:45.040 --> 01:29:46.000
<v Speaker 3>of God, good.</v>

01:29:46.000 --> 01:29:48.080
<v Speaker 3>That's exactly what you need to do.</v>

01:29:48.080 --> 01:29:50.080
<v Speaker 3>Here's what God's Word says.</v>

01:29:50.080 --> 01:29:55.120
<v Speaker 3>The Christian should respond with, Amen, and Lord forgive me if he</v>

01:29:55.120 --> 01:29:56.480
<v Speaker 3>disagreed with it.</v>

01:29:56.480 --> 01:30:00.000
<v Speaker 3>The Christian cannot respond to the Word of God with, well, I</v>

01:30:00.000 --> 01:30:00.800
<v Speaker 3>don't like that.</v>

01:30:00.800 --> 01:30:02.240
<v Speaker 3>That doesn't sound right.</v>

01:30:02.240 --> 01:30:06.400
<v Speaker 3>And yet that is the normal experience that we often have when</v>

01:30:06.400 --> 01:30:10.080
<v Speaker 3>we point to the parts of scripture that are neglected, that are</v>

01:30:10.080 --> 01:30:14.160
<v Speaker 3>misunderstood, that are reviled because they're inconvenient.</v>

01:30:14.160 --> 01:30:17.200
<v Speaker 3>Because some of the words from the mouth of God apply to</v>

01:30:17.600 --> 01:30:20.160
<v Speaker 3>the parts that we're getting wrong today.</v>

01:30:20.160 --> 01:30:24.560
<v Speaker 3>And that includes this pernicious lie that, well, that's not the gospel</v>

01:30:24.720 --> 01:30:27.120
<v Speaker 3>is anything other than a deception.</v>

01:30:27.120 --> 01:30:30.160
<v Speaker 3>Anyone who ever says that to you is a liar.</v>

01:30:30.160 --> 01:30:33.040
<v Speaker 3>I can guarantee you, 99% of the time when someone says, Well,</v>

01:30:33.040 --> 01:30:36.160
<v Speaker 3>that's not the gospel, it's totally irrelevant.</v>

01:30:36.160 --> 01:30:39.040
<v Speaker 3>And for them to do that is to commit deception.</v>

01:30:39.040 --> 01:30:40.880
<v Speaker 3>And they're doing it in the name of God.</v>

01:30:40.880 --> 01:30:44.400
<v Speaker 3>I'm going to read several passages for you to illustrate exactly what</v>

01:30:44.400 --> 01:30:46.240
<v Speaker 3>I'm talking about here.</v>

01:30:46.240 --> 01:30:47.920
<v Speaker 3>For Matthew four.</v>

01:30:47.920 --> 01:30:50.960
<v Speaker 3>Then Jesus was led up by the Spirit into the wilderness to</v>

01:30:50.960 --> 01:30:53.920
<v Speaker 3>be tempted by the devil, and after fasting forty days and forty</v>

01:30:54.400 --> 01:30:57.760
<v Speaker 3>nights he was hungry, and the tempter came to him and said,</v>

01:30:57.760 --> 01:31:00.720
<v Speaker 3>If you are the Son of God, command these stones to become</v>

01:31:00.720 --> 01:31:04.960
<v Speaker 3>loaves of bread, but he answered, It is written, man shall not</v>

01:31:04.960 --> 01:31:08.640
<v Speaker 3>live by bread alone, but from every word that comes from the</v>

01:31:08.640 --> 01:31:10.480
<v Speaker 3>mouth of God.</v>

01:31:10.480 --> 01:31:13.200
<v Speaker 3>This is the first time in Scripture that Jesus says it is</v>

01:31:13.200 --> 01:31:16.640
<v Speaker 3>written, and incidentally he's quoting the Septuagint.</v>

01:31:16.640 --> 01:31:19.280
<v Speaker 3>I checked, I was hoping that Satan would have quoted the Hebrew,</v>

01:31:19.280 --> 01:31:22.480
<v Speaker 3>but he didn't he used the Septuagint too, which frankly is even</v>

01:31:22.480 --> 01:31:26.640
<v Speaker 3>better. Because Satan doesn't try to argue over the nature of things,</v>

01:31:26.640 --> 01:31:28.000
<v Speaker 3>he tries to twist them.</v>

01:31:28.000 --> 01:31:32.560
<v Speaker 3>So even Satan concedes that scripture is the Septuagint and that the</v>

01:31:32.560 --> 01:31:35.360
<v Speaker 3>Septuagint is breathed out by God.</v>

01:31:35.360 --> 01:31:38.240
<v Speaker 3>So Jesus says, Every word from the mouth of God is what</v>

01:31:38.240 --> 01:31:39.200
<v Speaker 3>man shall live by.</v>

01:31:39.200 --> 01:31:39.920
<v Speaker 3>Okay, great.</v>

01:31:39.920 --> 01:31:40.560
<v Speaker 3>We all believe that.</v>

01:31:40.560 --> 01:31:44.080
<v Speaker 3>Some be private hanging up on a wall in your house.</v>

01:31:44.080 --> 01:31:46.400
<v Speaker 3>Here's some of the words of God that have to do with</v>

01:31:46.400 --> 01:31:50.000
<v Speaker 3>the gospel that you probably didn't pay attention to before and you</v>

01:31:50.000 --> 01:31:51.600
<v Speaker 3>probably don't like it when you hear it.</v>

01:31:51.600 --> 01:31:52.880
<v Speaker 3>Listen carefully.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>Revelation fourteen.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>Then I saw another angel flying directly overhead with an eternal gospel</v>

01:31:59.360 --> 01:32:02.880
<v Speaker 3>to proclaim to those who dwell on earth, to every nation and</v>

01:32:02.880 --> 01:32:04.880
<v Speaker 3>tribe and language and people.</v>

01:32:04.880 --> 01:32:08.240
<v Speaker 3>And he said with a loud voice, fear God and give him</v>

01:32:08.320 --> 01:32:12.000
<v Speaker 3>glory, because the hour of his judgment has come, and worship him</v>

01:32:12.080 --> 01:32:16.640
<v Speaker 3>who made heaven and earth, the sea and the springs of water.</v>

01:32:16.640 --> 01:32:20.080
<v Speaker 3>So what's the eternal gospel in heaven?</v>

01:32:20.080 --> 01:32:22.160
<v Speaker 3>Fear God and give him glory.</v>

01:32:22.160 --> 01:32:25.600
<v Speaker 3>If someone says, Well, that's not the gospel, who's right?</v>

01:32:25.600 --> 01:32:29.840
<v Speaker 3>Now, gospel is used in two different senses and both are valuable.</v>

01:32:29.840 --> 01:32:32.880
<v Speaker 3>Again, none of what we are saying here today is in any</v>

01:32:32.880 --> 01:32:35.520
<v Speaker 3>way attack on John 316.</v>

01:32:35.520 --> 01:32:37.760
<v Speaker 3>It's precious to every Christian.</v>

01:32:37.760 --> 01:32:40.640
<v Speaker 3>But every word from the mouth of God is not the gospel,</v>

01:32:40.640 --> 01:32:41.840
<v Speaker 3>not in that sense.</v>

01:32:41.840 --> 01:32:45.120
<v Speaker 3>However, every word is from the mouth of God and is the</v>

01:32:45.120 --> 01:32:48.400
<v Speaker 3>gospel, which is to say the good news, because it came from</v>

01:32:48.400 --> 01:32:52.000
<v Speaker 3>God. So what Jesus said about every word being something we need</v>

01:32:52.000 --> 01:32:56.000
<v Speaker 3>to hang on applies to the eternal gospel, which is fear God</v>

01:32:56.000 --> 01:32:56.960
<v Speaker 3>and give him glory.</v>

01:32:56.960 --> 01:32:58.400
<v Speaker 3>That's all law.</v>

01:32:58.400 --> 01:33:00.640
<v Speaker 3>God says that the law is the gospel.</v>

01:33:00.640 --> 01:33:02.080
<v Speaker 3>I'm not confusing the two.</v>

01:33:02.080 --> 01:33:06.560
<v Speaker 3>Lutheran heads are detonating right now because that's some sort of cardinal</v>

01:33:06.560 --> 01:33:07.840
<v Speaker 3>sin. It's not.</v>

01:33:07.840 --> 01:33:10.240
<v Speaker 3>It's talking about something completely different.</v>

01:33:10.240 --> 01:33:12.800
<v Speaker 3>Every word of scripture is from the mouth of God and that</v>

01:33:12.800 --> 01:33:13.920
<v Speaker 3>makes it good.</v>

01:33:13.920 --> 01:33:15.600
<v Speaker 3>That makes it true.</v>

01:33:15.600 --> 01:33:16.960
<v Speaker 3>These are definitional.</v>

01:33:17.840 --> 01:33:20.240
<v Speaker 3>It gets worse from there for you guys who don't like that</v>

01:33:20.240 --> 01:33:21.520
<v Speaker 3>version of the gospel.</v>

01:33:21.520 --> 01:33:23.760
<v Speaker 3>Second Thessalonians one.</v>

01:33:23.760 --> 01:33:26.880
<v Speaker 3>This is evidence of the righteous judgment of God, that you may</v>

01:33:26.880 --> 01:33:29.680
<v Speaker 3>be considered worthy of the kingdom of God for which you are</v>

01:33:29.680 --> 01:33:33.600
<v Speaker 3>also suffering suffering, since indeed God considers it just to repay with</v>

01:33:33.600 --> 01:33:36.000
<v Speaker 3>affliction those who afflict you.</v>

01:33:36.000 --> 01:33:38.880
<v Speaker 3>And to grant relief to you who are afflicted as well as</v>

01:33:38.880 --> 01:33:39.520
<v Speaker 3>to us.</v>

01:33:39.520 --> 01:33:42.640
<v Speaker 3>When the Lord Jesus is revealed from heaven with his mighty angels</v>

01:33:42.640 --> 01:33:47.360
<v Speaker 3>in flaming fire, inflicting vengeance on those who do not know God</v>

01:33:47.520 --> 01:33:51.440
<v Speaker 3>and on those who do not obey the gospel of our Lord</v>

01:33:51.440 --> 01:33:56.000
<v Speaker 3>Jesus. They will suffer the punishment of eternal destruction, away from the</v>

01:33:56.000 --> 01:33:58.560
<v Speaker 3>presence of God and from the glory of his might, when he</v>

01:33:59.040 --> 01:34:02.160
<v Speaker 3>comes on that day to be glorified in his saints, and to</v>

01:34:02.160 --> 01:34:06.240
<v Speaker 3>be marvelled among all who have believed, because our testimony to you</v>

01:34:06.240 --> 01:34:07.120
<v Speaker 3>is believed.</v>

01:34:07.120 --> 01:34:10.320
<v Speaker 3>To this end we will always pray for you.</v>

01:34:10.320 --> 01:34:15.120
<v Speaker 3>Jesus is coming in flaming fire to inflict vengeance on those who</v>

01:34:15.120 --> 01:34:17.920
<v Speaker 3>do not know God and on those who do not obey the</v>

01:34:17.920 --> 01:34:20.160
<v Speaker 3>gospel of Lord Jesus.</v>

01:34:20.160 --> 01:34:22.000
<v Speaker 3>Does that sound like the gospel to you?</v>

01:34:22.000 --> 01:34:23.120
<v Speaker 3>Obey the gospel?</v>

01:34:23.120 --> 01:34:24.160
<v Speaker 3>Is that the gospel?</v>

01:34:24.160 --> 01:34:27.760
<v Speaker 3>It should be, because that's what God says very clearly.</v>

01:34:27.760 --> 01:34:31.040
<v Speaker 3>He's saying the same thing in 2 Thessalonians that he says in</v>

01:34:31.040 --> 01:34:36.640
<v Speaker 3>Revelation. It's not the narrow gospel of we are saved because of</v>

01:34:36.640 --> 01:34:38.400
<v Speaker 3>Christ's death on the cross.</v>

01:34:38.400 --> 01:34:41.760
<v Speaker 3>It is the gospel, the good word, the good news of every</v>

01:34:41.760 --> 01:34:43.360
<v Speaker 3>word from the mouth of God.</v>

01:34:43.360 --> 01:34:47.360
<v Speaker 3>If we don't love this gospel too, we don't love God.</v>

01:34:48.000 --> 01:34:52.160
<v Speaker 3>the gospel is what God says saves us.</v>

01:34:52.160 --> 01:34:54.240
<v Speaker 3>Christians have to deal with that.</v>

01:34:54.240 --> 01:34:57.360
<v Speaker 3>And again, the conclusion is not works righteousness.</v>

01:34:57.360 --> 01:35:01.520
<v Speaker 3>This is not dabbling in Pelagianism or semi-pelagianism or any sort of</v>

01:35:01.920 --> 01:35:04.880
<v Speaker 3>heresy. It's saying that what God says is true.</v>

01:35:04.880 --> 01:35:06.480
<v Speaker 3>Let's take it seriously.</v>

01:35:06.480 --> 01:35:09.280
<v Speaker 3>There's nothing I can ever do to save myself.</v>

01:35:09.280 --> 01:35:12.400
<v Speaker 3>And yet I am commanded by God to obey the gospel.</v>

01:35:12.400 --> 01:35:15.360
<v Speaker 3>And if my response to those words from the mouth of God</v>

01:35:15.360 --> 01:35:21.520
<v Speaker 3>is anger, is umbrage, is disgust or confusion, something's wrong with me.</v>

01:35:21.520 --> 01:35:23.520
<v Speaker 3>Nothing's wrong with God's word.</v>

01:35:23.520 --> 01:35:26.080
<v Speaker 3>It's wrong with what I thought the gospel was.</v>

01:35:26.080 --> 01:35:29.280
<v Speaker 3>And again, it's two different things, not two different things.</v>

01:35:29.280 --> 01:35:33.600
<v Speaker 3>The gospel, John three sixteen is a subset of the gospel every</v>

01:35:33.600 --> 01:35:34.720
<v Speaker 3>word from God.</v>

01:35:34.720 --> 01:35:37.600
<v Speaker 3>The man who runs around shouting, but that's not the gospel.</v>

01:35:37.600 --> 01:35:39.120
<v Speaker 3>Where's the gospel in that?</v>

01:35:39.120 --> 01:35:43.200
<v Speaker 3>Is a liar because he didn't love this part of Scripture.</v>

01:35:43.200 --> 01:35:46.560
<v Speaker 3>He doesn't love the parts of Scripture that calls Cretans liars.</v>

01:35:46.560 --> 01:35:48.240
<v Speaker 3>He doesn't love any of that stuff.</v>

01:35:48.240 --> 01:35:51.200
<v Speaker 3>He loves the part that gets him off the hook when he's</v>

01:35:51.200 --> 01:35:52.800
<v Speaker 3>hating Christians.</v>

01:35:52.800 --> 01:35:54.880
<v Speaker 3>First Peter four says the same thing.</v>

01:35:54.880 --> 01:35:58.560
<v Speaker 3>Yet again this is an eschatological period.</v>

01:35:58.560 --> 01:36:02.320
<v Speaker 3>Beloved, do not be surprised at the fiery trial when it comes</v>

01:36:02.320 --> 01:36:05.520
<v Speaker 3>upon you to test you, as though something strange were happening to</v>

01:36:05.520 --> 01:36:09.360
<v Speaker 3>you, but rejoice in so far as you share Christ's sufferings, that</v>

01:36:09.360 --> 01:36:12.480
<v Speaker 3>you may also rejoice and be glad when his glory is revealed.</v>

01:36:12.480 --> 01:36:15.360
<v Speaker 3>If you are insulted for the name of Christ you are blessed,</v>

01:36:15.360 --> 01:36:18.400
<v Speaker 3>because the Spirit of glory and of God rests upon you, that</v>

01:36:18.400 --> 01:36:21.600
<v Speaker 3>let none of you suffer as a murderer, or a thief, or</v>

01:36:21.600 --> 01:36:23.920
<v Speaker 3>an evildoer, or as a meddler.</v>

01:36:23.920 --> 01:36:27.200
<v Speaker 3>Yet if anyone suffers as a Christian, let him not be ashamed,</v>

01:36:27.200 --> 01:36:29.520
<v Speaker 3>but let him glorify God in that name.</v>

01:36:29.520 --> 01:36:32.160
<v Speaker 3>For it is time for judgment to begin at the household of</v>

01:36:32.160 --> 01:36:35.200
<v Speaker 3>God, and if it begins with us, what will be the outcome</v>

01:36:35.200 --> 01:36:37.840
<v Speaker 3>for those who do not obey the gospel of God?</v>

01:36:37.840 --> 01:36:41.440
<v Speaker 3>And if the righteous is scarcely saved, what will become of the</v>

01:36:41.440 --> 01:36:43.120
<v Speaker 3>ungodly and the sinner?</v>

01:36:43.120 --> 01:36:47.120
<v Speaker 3>Therefore let those who suffer according to God's will and trust their</v>

01:36:47.120 --> 01:36:50.880
<v Speaker 3>souls to a faithful creator while doing good.</v>

01:36:50.880 --> 01:36:52.240
<v Speaker 3>And that's it.</v>

01:36:52.240 --> 01:36:55.680
<v Speaker 3>Let those who suffer according to God's will and trust their souls</v>

01:36:55.680 --> 01:36:57.920
<v Speaker 3>to a faithful creator while doing good.</v>

01:36:58.640 --> 01:37:00.400
<v Speaker 3>That's not saving ourselves.</v>

01:37:00.400 --> 01:37:02.560
<v Speaker 3>That's obeying the gospel.</v>

01:37:02.560 --> 01:37:06.240
<v Speaker 3>We're not pointing these things out to try to shift the emphasis</v>

01:37:06.240 --> 01:37:07.600
<v Speaker 3>of Christianity.</v>

01:37:07.600 --> 01:37:10.720
<v Speaker 3>We're trying to point out that these are some neglected matters.</v>

01:37:10.720 --> 01:37:13.920
<v Speaker 3>We don't need to do another whole episode on that, but when</v>

01:37:13.920 --> 01:37:17.600
<v Speaker 3>you find these passages, they have a fundamentally different definition of the</v>

01:37:17.600 --> 01:37:21.680
<v Speaker 3>gospel, one that says fear and love God, one that says obey</v>

01:37:21.680 --> 01:37:22.640
<v Speaker 3>the gospel.</v>

01:37:22.640 --> 01:37:25.360
<v Speaker 3>If your first instinct is to hate those words from the mouth</v>

01:37:25.360 --> 01:37:28.640
<v Speaker 3>of God, you have a deep seated spiritual problem.</v>

01:37:28.640 --> 01:37:31.360
<v Speaker 3>The good news is it's very simple to fix.</v>

01:37:31.360 --> 01:37:34.880
<v Speaker 3>You have been taught falsely by someone who was a false prophet,</v>

01:37:34.880 --> 01:37:38.160
<v Speaker 3>probably a well-intentioned man who is repeating what he heard.</v>

01:37:38.160 --> 01:37:39.360
<v Speaker 3>He didn't know any better.</v>

01:37:39.360 --> 01:37:42.720
<v Speaker 3>He either never read these parts or just glazed over 'em, didn't</v>

01:37:42.640 --> 01:37:45.360
<v Speaker 3>believe 'em, whatever.</v>

01:37:45.360 --> 01:37:48.480
<v Speaker 3>Doesn't change what God is or who he is or what he</v>

01:37:48.480 --> 01:37:49.360
<v Speaker 3>has said.</v>

01:37:49.600 --> 01:37:52.640
<v Speaker 3>When God tells us something, that means it's true.</v>

01:37:52.800 --> 01:37:54.880
<v Speaker 3>That includes obeying the gospel.</v>

01:37:54.880 --> 01:37:57.360
<v Speaker 3>It's good news because of that last sentence.</v>

01:37:57.360 --> 01:38:01.280
<v Speaker 3>Therefore let those who suffer according to God's will entrust their souls</v>

01:38:01.440 --> 01:38:05.120
<v Speaker 3>to a faithful Creator while doing good.</v>

01:38:05.120 --> 01:38:08.000
<v Speaker 3>The faithful Creator keeps his promises to us.</v>

01:38:08.000 --> 01:38:11.520
<v Speaker 3>He keeps the promises of the gospel that says that He died</v>

01:38:11.520 --> 01:38:15.440
<v Speaker 3>for our salvation, that Christ died for our salvation, and therefore we</v>

01:38:15.440 --> 01:38:16.480
<v Speaker 3>do good.</v>

01:38:16.480 --> 01:38:19.760
<v Speaker 3>This is the Christian life, to obey the gospel.</v>

01:38:19.760 --> 01:38:24.240
<v Speaker 3>Any pastor, any cleric who comes to you with another message than</v>

01:38:24.240 --> 01:38:26.400
<v Speaker 3>this, comes from hell.</v>

01:38:26.400 --> 01:38:29.120
<v Speaker 3>He is a liar whose conscience is seared.</v>

01:38:29.520 --> 01:38:31.760
<v Speaker 3>Because these are the plain words of God.</v>

01:38:31.760 --> 01:38:33.040
<v Speaker 3>These aren't tricky.</v>

01:38:33.040 --> 01:38:36.640
<v Speaker 3>There's no subtle reading of this that turns obey the gospel into</v>

01:38:36.800 --> 01:38:38.400
<v Speaker 3>don't worry about it.</v>

01:38:38.400 --> 01:38:40.000
<v Speaker 3>Not how this works.</v>

01:38:40.000 --> 01:38:42.560
<v Speaker 3>There's no possible argument against this.</v>

01:38:42.560 --> 01:38:44.560
<v Speaker 3>This is truth.</v>

01:38:44.560 --> 01:38:46.400
<v Speaker 3>I am not mistaken here.</v>

01:38:46.400 --> 01:38:49.360
<v Speaker 3>Either I'm telling the truth or I'm a liar and I am</v>

01:38:49.360 --> 01:38:52.960
<v Speaker 3>damned. If I'm a liar and I'm damned, it's for saying exactly</v>

01:38:52.960 --> 01:38:53.760
<v Speaker 3>what God said.</v>

01:38:53.760 --> 01:38:57.200
<v Speaker 3>But there's no mistaking these sorts of passages.</v>

01:38:57.200 --> 01:38:59.680
<v Speaker 3>We as Christians need to have a kind of passion for the</v>

01:38:59.680 --> 01:39:03.040
<v Speaker 3>truth that allows us to see these and say, Amen.</v>

01:39:03.040 --> 01:39:05.760
<v Speaker 3>Even if it turns out that we have to re-jigger something in</v>

01:39:05.760 --> 01:39:09.440
<v Speaker 3>our belief, that means our belief was contrary to scripture, hopefully in</v>

01:39:09.440 --> 01:39:10.400
<v Speaker 3>some small way.</v>

01:39:10.400 --> 01:39:11.920
<v Speaker 3>In this case it is.</v>

01:39:11.920 --> 01:39:16.560
<v Speaker 3>The notion that the gospel is God's salvation for us is vital</v>

01:39:16.560 --> 01:39:18.080
<v Speaker 3>to the Christian faith.</v>

01:39:18.080 --> 01:39:20.720
<v Speaker 3>The notion that the gospel, the good news is every word from</v>

01:39:20.720 --> 01:39:23.680
<v Speaker 3>the mouth of God, is vital to the Christian faith.</v>

01:39:23.680 --> 01:39:25.680
<v Speaker 3>These things are not at odds.</v>

01:39:25.680 --> 01:39:27.920
<v Speaker 3>They're one in the same.</v>

01:39:27.920 --> 01:39:32.320
<v Speaker 3>But the fear and love God eternal gospel is a superset of</v>

01:39:32.320 --> 01:39:34.480
<v Speaker 3>the Jesus died for you gospel.</v>

01:39:34.480 --> 01:39:38.240
<v Speaker 3>Both are good news, but everything that God said is good news</v>

01:39:38.240 --> 01:39:39.440
<v Speaker 3>because he said it.</v>

01:39:39.440 --> 01:39:43.120
<v Speaker 3>Even the parts that are scary, even the parts that condemn us,</v>

01:39:43.120 --> 01:39:45.840
<v Speaker 3>because he is a loving and faithful creator.</v>

01:39:46.160 --> 01:39:49.360
<v Speaker 3>And we should do good, and thanks for that.</v>