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It is the third of April twenty twenty six.

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I am Cory J.

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Mahler and this is at any cost.

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This is episode twenty three, a QA episode.

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And I do not have any housekeeping for this week

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other than to wish all of you a blessed good Friday.

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So I will get right into the questions.

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I'm actually going to start with two questions from previous episodes that

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I did not get around to answering and then we'll move into

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some specifically for

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this episode that came in this week.

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So question one What have the Japanese done that kept their morality

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intact as opposed to the rest of Asia?

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Why are they not as morally bankrupt as China or India or

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not as devolved as India is.

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I put this one off in part because it's kind of a

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complex question, as you can probably already notice.

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And there is a lot to go over here.

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So this one is going to take a little time to answer.

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Probably not too much time, but in order to understand the differences

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in Asia, we're going to limit this analysis to limit Japan, China,

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and India, because expanding it beyond that would have been you know,

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the course of study of an entire semester at university.

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But in order to understand these differences, you have to understand some

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religions slash worldviews first.

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A little bit, not going into it in depth, because again that

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would be quite the course.

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So Shintoism, Buddhism, Confucianism, Hinduism, and Taoism are really what's in play

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here. Yes, you also do have more recently Islam in the case

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of India, but quite frankly I'm just going to ignore it because

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it doesn't form as much of the substrate

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on which all of this stuff has occurred over a course of

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two thousand plus years.

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Really more than that.

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But But Shintoism, starting there, is polytheistic and animistic and is going

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to have the largest impact in almost exclusively in this case, a

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little bit in China, but almost exclusively Japan.

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And The focus for Shintoism is ritual, purity,

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and it's focused on this life.

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I'm obviously simplifying this to some degree, so bear that in mind.

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Cum granos salis, as it were.

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But insofar as commonalities and differences, I'm going to sort of break

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it down that way so we can compare it to Christianity and

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how it has influenced these societies, these cultures, these races, as opposed

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to

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European Christianity.

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And so for commonalities, you do have the focus on prayer in

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Shintoism. There's communal worship, moral purity, community, hard work, and honoring

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ancestors is a little bit of an overlap because it overlaps with

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obviously the fourth commandment, and particularly a proper understanding of the fourth

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commandment, see Stone Choir for more.

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So that's the rough outline, a small bit as it were, for

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Shintoism. Now Buddhism.

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Buddhism is non-theistic.

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It's going to be less of a religion and more of a

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worldview, although it has elements of being a religion as well.

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Usually Usually it's layered onto something else.

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There's syncretic pairing as it were.

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And so you have the religion of Shintoism with some Buddhism on

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it, so the Japanese case, Zen Buddhism mostly in their case.

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As far as differences go, because it's really mostly differences here, there's

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a little bit of focus the same with regard to morality, but

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it's so different and for different reasons that there's almost no overlap

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with Christianity.

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But there's a denial of the self in an absolute sense in

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Buddhism that is not a thing in Western Christianity.

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And I don't mean denial of the self in the way that

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Western ears might hear it, which would be if you say denial

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of the self to a Westerner, they're going to hear self-control or

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fasting, something like that, denying the self in a way that is

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deliberately doing that for some other purpose, whatever it happens to be.

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That's not what Buddhism is.

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Buddhism is a denial of the self as self, saying the self

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ultimately doesn't exist.

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And so you wind up with views that are not even really

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annihilationist because you're returning to the grand universe.

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And so it's a dissolution of the self, but not really annihilation

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because it doesn't believe the self ever existed.

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Obviously, very different from Christianity, from the Western view of things, including

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the pagans in this case.

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There's a focus on impermanence, karma, reincarnation, and a pursuit of what

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they call enlightenment, which is really just realizing you don't exist.

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Sort of absurd, but as opposed to what we would call a

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pursuit of wisdom.

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So there's a distinction there between wisdom and enlightenment.

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They're not the same thing in these traditions.

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Confucianism, obviously mostly the Chinese case, although during the During the Tokugawa

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period, also applicable to Japan.

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So there's some cross-pollination there, as it were.

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Part of that came through Korea, but we're ignoring them for tonight.

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The focus there would be again, ritual, but propriety more than purity

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in this case, filial piety, and social harmony.

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There's also benevolence, but it's in a different sense from how we

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would use the term in the West The West, and so I

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don't know I can really add that in here.

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As far as commonalities go, you'd also have that respect for ancestors,

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although for differences, in this case it starts to shade into ancestor

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worship, which obviously we do not do in Christian lands, or at

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least we should not be doing.

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There's syncretism in some parts of the world, obviously, it's a big

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problem in Africa, for instance.

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The focus again is on this life, as opposed to the next

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life, as opposed to you know salvation, damnation, judgment, things like that.

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It's a focus on this life, and so it is a different

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thing. Apparently OBS decided to disconnect from kick, but I'll just toggle

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that and hopefully it'll fix itself.

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And maybe it did.

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Anyway, moving on to Hinduism, which is one more after that because

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w Taoism does play a role as well.

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Hinduism is polytheistic, obviously extremely polytheistic in most formulations.

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Also pan theistic more than panentheistic.

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So for commonalities, there's a focus on morality in it, but it

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is an illusory focus, and it takes such a form in Hinduism

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that it's not anything we as Christians or Westerners would recognize as

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morality. And we'll get into that as well.

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So for Taoism, the last one here, the Tao is an impersonal

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force. There's no actual or absolute moral right and wrong moral system

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in that worldview.

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It's more indifferent because it's an impersonal force.

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So So now to get into analyzing why these nations are different

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and how they sort of got where they are, obviously again this

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is going to be cursory.

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This is the sort of stuff where you could spend an entire

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semester on each one of these nations just within this scope in

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university somewhere.

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So like I mentioned earlier, there's the Tokugawa period, which is basically

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the sort of end of the the samurai period here, hundreds of

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years ago in this case.

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And you have a policy of seclusion.

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This is Japan, so.

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And Confucianism is also

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imported at this point sort of from China into Japan.

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It starts to form some of the ultimate foundation of the Japanese

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outlook, their worldview as it would be constituted today, adding to Shin

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Shintoism. Now you also have after this period there's the Meiji Restoration,

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which is when they start to adopt p some of the Western

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views of things.

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And so this is when the economy starts to become capitalist, for

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instance. And capitalism plays a role in all of this, but you

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have reform.

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Incidentally, you have a purging of foreign elements during that period, largely

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trying to remove Chinese influence from Japanese society.

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And so some suppression of Confucianism in favor of more of the

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traditional Shintoism, which is sort of the pagan Japanese religion.

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I should probably mention that the Japanese religion doesn't really have much

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of a focus on salvation, judgment, damnation, the afterlife.

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It's like I said in the beginning, it's more focused on this

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life. But it's also regional, sort of in a way that we

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do not have with obviously Christianity, because we have a creator God

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who made everything.

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He is God.

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They have a bunch of kami, which are basically local gods that

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have some connection to a place and don't really have an overarching

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power. And so you have all these various shrines, you go and

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revere them, but they don't have one creator god as we have,

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and so you don't have the same sort of system of judgment

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and salvation things like that.

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So these are some differences where we where we would call them

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obviously wrong, but they also play into the differences between the various

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Asian peoples and why they are the way they are.

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We'll see the greatest contrast between the Japanese and the Indians actually,

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but there's some contrast there obviously between the Japanese and the Chinese

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as well.

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But in addition to sort of this opening up that you have

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during this period and the modernization, you see

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the creation of the Zaibatsu, which are basically large conglomerates, this is

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partly an outgrowth of the way that the Japanese view the world,

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and so you have these large industrial conglomerates that in some In

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some cases, do basically everything.

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You have equivalence in China and Korea.

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This is kind of common in Asia generally.

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Less common in the European context, although we have some of that

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now as well.

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This is sort of how they integrated capitalism into their system and

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gave it a Japanese flavor.

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But

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insofar as the overall way that Japanese religion interfaces with their society,

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it's sort of less overtly religious as we would conceive of it,

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and it's become more of sort of the background radiation of the

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society, the foundation.

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It's based on the mixture of all of these things, but not

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necessarily overtly religious in the way we would think of it.

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This is similar to some of the very secular now so-called European

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nations that are still very culturally Christian, but no longer particularly religiously

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Christian. But moving on to China, and I have one particular aspect

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I'm going to draw out after I do these brief country summaries

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that really highlights the difference in how they came to be the

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way that they are, but it's important to understand the philosophies and

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the religions that fed into that.

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But in the Chinese case they have what they call the three

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teachings, and the three teachings are Confucianism, Taoism, and Buddhism.

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That's why I went over those, they're all relevant here.

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So for Confucianism, you get the Chinese focus on hierarchy comes from

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that, again filial piety, the focus on social harmony instead of strife,

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and so there's a particular pressure not to ruffle feathers, as it

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were, which is going to run counter to sort of the individualism

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in the non-negative sense that has always been part of Western society.

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They're going to focus more on group cohesion as opposed to being

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right, for instance.

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Which you can see that starts to play into how they're different.

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There's a m there is a focus on moral self-cultivation.

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We can sort of resonate with that for Confucianism.

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There's some similarity there, but again, the morality is very different from

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what we would call morality, and so

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it's not necessarily a commonality, there's a big difference there.

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There is a focus on merit based governance.

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In part this is inherent to Confucianism itself, and in part it

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comes from the imperial period in which you had large-scale, mass-scale instruction

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in Confucianism, including testing in order to get into these imperial positions,

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and you had a giant bureaucracy.

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It was very much deliberately entrenched in the Chinese nation by the

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Empire, by the Imperial Court.

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And then that's also where we get the Chinese view of benevolent

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authoritarianism. We have that as well in the West.

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It's a slightly different formulation because racial differences.

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But that comes in large part from Confucianism and from the way

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that the Chinese Empire used it in order to maintain their control,

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build out their control, and shape their society as well to some

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degree. For Taoism, I don't know that I really need to get

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into their concept of Wu Wei the effortless action sort of thing.

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It plays a role in this because there's an undercurrent in Taoism,

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the view of the world, that you have this impersonal force that

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sort of acts without acting in an effortless way and aligning yourself

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with that is seen as a good thing and so you can

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see how that would influence their psychology to some degree.

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It plays a role.

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But there's adaptability and pragmatism is a big part of Taoism, which

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very much plays into the Chinese psychology and how they, of course,

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view the world, but how they interact with the world.

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Their entire worldview has that as sort of a substrate.

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And

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there are some will bring up harmony with nature that's supposedly part

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of Taoism, but I think we can all look at modern China

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and see that it is anything but harmonious when it comes to

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nature, and so pragmatism sort of controlled over that, particularly after the

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introduction of capitalism and industrialization.

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So

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that's sort of the brief over there for Taoism, now it plays

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into the Chinese system.

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But for Buddhism, you get the general thing for Buddhism: the impermanence

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and the focus on karma.

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A little less in the Chinese case.

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But much the same as Japan.

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This is more of the background or the substrate of the culture

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instead of an outright overt sort of religion.

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They are not overtly religious, mostly.

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In the same way

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that we are in the West, for those of us who were

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actually religious still.

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The mandate of heaven is another thing that's important to understand in

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the Chinese case.

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That gets more into politics, which perhaps it's relevant at some point.

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I guess it's relevant today, really.

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But the mandate of heaven was the argument of the Chinese imperial

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court that they had a right, a divine right to rule, because

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they had the mandate of heaven, the mandate of the gods, right?

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The Chinese Communist Party doesn't necessarily use the same language, but they

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use the same arguments.

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They still use Confucianism.

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They suppressed Confucianism supposedly, but then reimported all of its teachings.

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So they kind of did the same thing that the Communists did

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in Russia with the Russian Orthodox Church.

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They pretended to suppress it, then they revived it, brought it back,

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and used it as a political weapon.

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Which is exactly what it became.

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And it is

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there are those who will try to argue that because of the

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fact the communists pretended, really pretended, to suppress con Confucianism in the

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Chinese case, that they are at odds, but really Confucianism is what

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paved the way for communism to take over China because of that

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natural acceptance of almost totalitarianism, not authoritarianism really, as we would call

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it, this conformity, this slavish acceptance of hierarchy, the desire

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not to

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ruffle feathers, all of these things played into fertile soil for communism.

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There's a bit of exploitation there as well, obviously, because there was

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Jewish involvement with the Chinese Communist Party, particularly early on, but question

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for another time perhaps.

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But Confucianism has given them the ability to mobilize in a way

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that is difficult in some other countries because you have this have

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this level of mass conformity and this obedience to hierarchy, there are

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advantages and disadvantages.

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Individually, they don't do so well, but you can mass mobilize them

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much more easily than say those in the West or some other

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places. Japan has a little bit of the collectivization as well.

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All of these countries in this part, not India at this point,

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are collective in a way that Westerners are not.

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The Indians are in a very specific way both collectivist and individualist,

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but I'll get into that after I'm done with China here.

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So they also do have this opposition to foreign influence, which has

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helped keep them somewhat insular.

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However, because of the way that it played out historically, they wound

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up obviously being defeated and not entirely conquered and colonized in the

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same way as some other nations, but they had to open up

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and pursue a rapid policy of development because of what this did

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historically. There's the whole middle kingdom concept and being the center of

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the world and not needing anything from anywhere else and

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It has pluses and minuses.

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It's kept out foreign influence, but it also made them insular in

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a way that proved to be detrimental because they sort of ignored

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the outside world and you can't do that because the outside world

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doesn't stop existing and doesn't stop influencing you simply because you pretend

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they don't exist.

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Japan also learned that sort of the same way.

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But insofar as

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that's concerned, you also have the the communist element plays into it.

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They're related related and because communists are always maintaining power in part

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based on grievance.

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This nation has a grievance of that against that one and so

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I mean it's the same a lot of places, you have the

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common enemy and the common enemy helps to unite you.

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But you have the century of humiliation in the Chinese context, which

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basically was the period before they opened up, because they were forced

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to open up by being conquered.

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Not entirely, but in part.

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This fuels more their interaction with some of the Western powers, although

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they have some views of Japan as well, incidentally, but it doesn't

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play as much of a role in their relationship in this part

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of the world, but it does form part of the psychology of

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how they look at the world.

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But then moving on to India, the third and final one for

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this

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The concepts that are important in India would be really the concepts

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that do play the major role in Hinduism.

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So you have what they call dharma, which is duty, which is

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not the Western conception of duty.

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It is scoped in a totally different way and it runs in

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very different ways.

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You have karma, you have I think we all know what karma

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is, I don't have to explain that one.

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You have samsara, which is reincarnation.

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It's really the cycle of life and death and suffering and re-b

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it's it's reincarnation.

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That's easy enough what we have here.

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And then you have obviously their caste system is extremely important to

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understanding how they behave and why they behave the way they do.

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In part, their caste system, just sort of historical tangent, was imposed

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on them.

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It's partly a natural outgrowth of the fact that they are various

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somewhat, at least to some degree, distinct ethnic groups inside of India.

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Do remember, China and India are both empires.

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They're not truly homogeneous nations.

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They have different subpopulations in different parts of the country.

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Less so China these days, very much so India still.

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In part India has the caste system because they were conquered by

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Indo-Europeans. They were conquered by peoples from elsewhere who then intermarried and

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created their upper caste.

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That's part of the Indian history.

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It's part of why the caste system can still be maintained even

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though it isn't officially a thing in Indian policy anymore.

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It really is.

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It's just not enshrined in the law anymore.

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But India is rigidly hierarchical according to that caste system.

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And so you don't have any mobility insofar as that's concerned, today

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there's a little bit of leeway because of capitalism and wealth and

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things like that, but generally speaking, the people in the lower castes

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are not going to achieve great things anyway, because part of it

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again is biological.

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You can almost map caste to IQ essentially in the Indian case.

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So the caste system is that you have the priests and the

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scholars at the top, you have the warriors and the rulers, the

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merchants, the laborers, and the untouchables, the Dalits.

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So if you're looking for a word that makes Indians mad at

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you, there you go.

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One of the problems that you have with their particular formulation of

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a caste system is that there is severe pressure to stay within

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your caste.

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That in and of itself is not necessarily bad.

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I mean, obviously, they have, you know, a billion plus people, so

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there are a lot of people in each cast.

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But because of the way that their society works with regard to

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family structure and the unofficial networks of people, you wind up with

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severe

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endogamous pressure, which is to say it winds up being inbreeding.

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Which is a huge part of the explanation for why the Indians

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are the way they are.

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It's inbreeding.

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Is a huge part of it.

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That's the case in basically every part of the world with low

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IQ. It's inbreeding.

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It is in many cases, particularly Africa, promiscuity, which leads to inbreeding

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because they don't know their fathers.

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And And if you don't know your father, sometimes you wind up

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marrying your sister.

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That obviously causes problems over hundreds of years.

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That's a big part of the reason India is the way it

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is, and it is so much worse than China and Japan.

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It's biology, it's the sort of harsh mistress that is genetics.

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But part of what I want to pull out and part of

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what really contributes to this and this difference here is the different

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conceptions of honor.

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I'm not going to go deeply into the European conception of honor

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because it's just not what I'm doing here.

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But each of these nations has a fundamentally different understanding, fundamentally different

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conception of what honor is.

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And so for the Japanese, you have what grew out of being

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essentially a warrior ethic became their conception of honor.

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So that's about as close as you can get to the Western

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conception of honor in the Asian case.

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The Japanese are the closest to us with their understanding of honor.

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The Chinese, it's more hierarchy and your relationship, your place in the

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hierarchy. It's a relative sense and it's relational in a way that

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not in the way our honor is, because obviously we think we'll

00:25:05.280 --> 00:25:07.520
honor thy father and thy mother, and that's relational.

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It's not that kind of relational.

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It's more pragmatic.

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It's going back to that conception of pragmatism.

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The Indians are fatalist and look at it as being sort of

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a cosmic duty, that's their conception of honor.

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And so it winds up being things connected to the staying in

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your cast and things like that.

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And that fatalism aspect is also important because they look at it

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as you are born into this and you are doomed to do

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X, Y, and Z.

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It's not the Western understanding of fate.

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It's a different kind, it is fatalistic

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in sort of the full sense of that.

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But Eastern conceptions generally are different from Western conceptions of honor.

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So Era and Izat are not the same at all.

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It's almost a misnomer to use the same sort of word.

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But in the Japanese case you have Mayo and Giri, I'm not

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going to get too deep into terms and things, but the real

00:26:03.280 --> 00:26:05.360
core of it is duty or obligation.

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Obviously it raises the question to whom duty is owed, and that's

00:26:08.640 --> 00:26:12.880
generally going to be roughly the same kind of hierarchy that we

00:26:12.880 --> 00:26:15.840
think of your family, your clan, your nation, right?

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That's what we think of.

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Add tribe in there if you feel like it.

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These days, due to industrialization and capitalization, they also have a same

00:26:25.040 --> 00:26:28.880
sort of view toward their employer, toward their corporation.

00:26:28.880 --> 00:26:30.720
And that's expected in society.

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That's sort of a difference between them and us.

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We don't really have an honor relationship with our employer.

00:26:39.680 --> 00:26:44.880
You can do things that are dishonorable in your employment, but your

00:26:45.040 --> 00:26:49.600
personal honor isn't really at stake when it comes to whether or

00:26:49.600 --> 00:26:52.560
not you're loyal as an employee to a corporation.

00:26:52.560 --> 00:26:57.200
That almost sounds insane to Western ears, particularly European Western ears, a

00:26:57.200 --> 00:26:58.640
little less so for Americans.

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there's a distinction there though.

00:27:01.600 --> 00:27:05.760
But that unwavering loyalty to your group is a huge part of

00:27:05.760 --> 00:27:06.640
Japanese honor.

00:27:06.640 --> 00:27:08.400
That is incredibly important.

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And so your family and your nation are big part of that.

00:27:11.280 --> 00:27:12.320
We can resonate with that.

00:27:12.320 --> 00:27:13.120
That's important.

00:27:13.520 --> 00:27:17.920
Self-restraint plays a role in their conception of honor.

00:27:17.920 --> 00:27:22.320
You have to have a willingness to sacrifice, and that's going to

00:27:22.320 --> 00:27:26.960
be your personal comfort, personal desire for things that are seen as

00:27:26.960 --> 00:27:28.240
a collective duty.

00:27:28.240 --> 00:27:32.240
A little bit similar to the Western sense, but also different from

00:27:32.240 --> 00:27:33.280
the Western conception.

00:27:33.440 --> 00:27:35.280
Like I said, the Japanese are going to be the closest to

00:27:35.280 --> 00:27:38.000
the Western conception of honor of any of these three.

00:27:38.640 --> 00:27:43.680
But the Japanese view of honor, their own personal view of it,

00:27:43.680 --> 00:27:47.280
is that it is sort of an intensely and

00:27:48.960 --> 00:27:52.720
sort of naturally Japanese thing.

00:27:52.720 --> 00:27:56.480
Their sense of honor is very Japanese and they consciously view it

00:27:56.480 --> 00:27:59.200
as being a Japanese thing.

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And the final point that I'd pull out for the Japanese would

00:28:02.240 --> 00:28:07.760
be that dishonor, doing something dishonorable, brings brings collective shame in the

00:28:07.760 --> 00:28:09.040
Japanese mind.

00:28:09.040 --> 00:28:12.160
It's not just personal shame, it's collective shame.

00:28:12.160 --> 00:28:15.760
You brought shame to your family, you brought shame to your clan,

00:28:15.760 --> 00:28:17.680
you brought shame to your nation.

00:28:17.680 --> 00:28:21.680
You'll see that also in the Chinese case and a different formulation

00:28:21.680 --> 00:28:24.000
of it for the Indians.

00:28:24.000 --> 00:28:28.960
For the Chinese you have two different ideas, and I'm not going

00:28:28.960 --> 00:28:31.840
to bother using the terms because I can't pronounce Chinese very well.

00:28:31.840 --> 00:28:32.480
But the two different

00:28:33.360 --> 00:28:37.040
aspects of it for honor in the Chinese case would be moral

00:28:37.040 --> 00:28:42.240
character and so your personal honor in essence and then saving versus

00:28:42.240 --> 00:28:46.240
losing face, which we might call reputation, but it's distinct in a

00:28:46.240 --> 00:28:51.600
way that it's worth calling it face because well you'll see.

00:28:51.600 --> 00:28:51.920
So

00:28:53.520 --> 00:28:58.240
two of the ways that you can save or preserve face would

00:28:58.240 --> 00:29:01.040
be using your personal network.

00:29:01.040 --> 00:29:05.600
Personal networks are a huge part of just how the Chinese system

00:29:05.600 --> 00:29:09.360
operates. More so even than formal networks.

00:29:09.360 --> 00:29:13.680
Now, obviously, networks are important everywhere, but in a way that is

00:29:14.480 --> 00:29:18.800
an order of magnitude different from how it works in our case.

00:29:18.800 --> 00:29:20.720
Deference to authority is the second one.

00:29:20.720 --> 00:29:24.800
That's also an important part of maintaining face.

00:29:24.800 --> 00:29:28.480
It is seen as a violation of the Chinese conception of honor

00:29:28.560 --> 00:29:30.800
not rightly to defer to authority.

00:29:30.800 --> 00:29:34.240
That ties back into the philosophies we discussed, you can see how

00:29:34.240 --> 00:29:35.760
that works together.

00:29:35.760 --> 00:29:38.400
National honor is a big part of it, which is why the

00:29:38.400 --> 00:29:41.200
century of humiliation is still seen as a big thing.

00:29:41.200 --> 00:29:45.760
It's why ultimately there is still a level of animosity toward every

00:29:45.760 --> 00:29:50.160
Western nation on the part of the Chinese, particularly those that played

00:29:50.160 --> 00:29:56.640
any active role in colonization or their defeat various defeats during that

00:29:56.720 --> 00:29:59.040
what they call the century of humiliation.

00:29:59.040 --> 00:30:02.000
And so that would certainly include the British, but it also includes

00:30:02.000 --> 00:30:04.000
the Germans and the French.

00:30:04.000 --> 00:30:07.200
There's still it's under the surface, they play it down to some

00:30:07.200 --> 00:30:10.000
degree, but it's still very much there because it is seen as

00:30:10.000 --> 00:30:12.640
a slight to their national honor.

00:30:12.640 --> 00:30:17.120
And of course this is used as an excuse for various communist

00:30:17.120 --> 00:30:20.640
policies both domestically and with regard to foreign affairs.

00:30:20.640 --> 00:30:24.240
It's one of the reasons they see nothing wrong with the rampant

00:30:24.240 --> 00:30:26.480
theft that goes on in China.

00:30:26.480 --> 00:30:30.240
Because they view the West as an enemy, ultimately.

00:30:30.240 --> 00:30:32.880
It's also because they have a different view of property and property

00:30:32.880 --> 00:30:35.200
rights, but that is part of it.

00:30:35.200 --> 00:30:40.640
One of the things that the Chinese conception of honor does, and

00:30:40.640 --> 00:30:44.960
this will lead into one of the reasons they're so different, culturally

00:30:45.040 --> 00:30:49.120
at least, is that it can incentivize corruption.

00:30:49.120 --> 00:30:53.840
They'll call it harmony, but what it really does is it centerizes

00:30:53.840 --> 00:30:57.120
greasing the wheels and corrupt actions.

00:30:57.120 --> 00:31:00.320
All of these things that we would condemn, but they would say,

00:31:00.320 --> 00:31:04.640
No, this is good because it's being done in pursuit of societal

00:31:04.640 --> 00:31:06.160
or group harmony.

00:31:06.800 --> 00:31:08.880
We would not look at it that way.

00:31:08.880 --> 00:31:12.160
It's one of the things that has made them different culturally that

00:31:12.160 --> 00:31:15.440
has led to what they are.

00:31:15.440 --> 00:31:15.760
But

00:31:16.800 --> 00:31:18.960
the last thing I would do for the Chinese, that would be

00:31:19.040 --> 00:31:25.440
just emphasize again, pragmatism being part of their ideology and their vaguely

00:31:25.600 --> 00:31:29.360
religious expression has played a huge role in this because if it's

00:31:29.360 --> 00:31:30.880
pragmatic, then it's aligned with their values.

00:31:31.840 --> 00:31:36.640
It doesn't matter what the morality is because there's no objective morality.

00:31:36.640 --> 00:31:40.160
And the losing face thing obviously going to be a big deal

00:31:40.160 --> 00:31:43.120
in politics for those who are interested in political science.

00:31:43.120 --> 00:31:47.920
But But moving on to India, their conception of honor they call

00:31:47.920 --> 00:31:54.160
Izat, which is not just personal honor, it's more group honor.

00:31:54.160 --> 00:31:57.680
And what group varies because

00:31:58.800 --> 00:32:03.600
if say a member of your family is insulted, well that's family

00:32:03.760 --> 00:32:07.520
isat. If a member of your tribe is insulted, well that's now

00:32:07.520 --> 00:32:10.640
your tribe versus you know member your nation.

00:32:10.640 --> 00:32:15.120
This is similar to what we see in a large chunk of

00:32:15.120 --> 00:32:20.560
the world, really, the Near East through the Mideast, the Middle East.

00:32:20.560 --> 00:32:24.880
They have this conception of basically every level of society and every

00:32:24.880 --> 00:32:28.400
single resolution is just constant conflict and war.

00:32:28.720 --> 00:32:30.880
You know, the famous Arab proverb, right?

00:32:30.880 --> 00:32:33.760
It's me against my brother, me and my brother against my father,

00:32:33.760 --> 00:32:36.400
me and my brother, and my brother against my cousin, and so

00:32:36.400 --> 00:32:37.520
on and so forth.

00:32:37.520 --> 00:32:40.960
It's just constant war up and down the social hierarchy at every

00:32:40.960 --> 00:32:42.080
single resolution.

00:32:42.080 --> 00:32:44.880
You have the same thing here in the Indian case with Izat.

00:32:44.880 --> 00:32:48.480
And so your personal honor, then the honor of your family, the

00:32:48.480 --> 00:32:51.520
honor of your tribe, the honor of your clan, the honor of

00:32:51.520 --> 00:32:55.440
your region, the c honour of your people, broadly understood.

00:32:55.440 --> 00:32:58.240
It's why Indians respond the way they do on the internet when

00:32:58.240 --> 00:32:59.520
India is insulted.

00:32:59.520 --> 00:33:00.080
It's this.

00:33:00.080 --> 00:33:01.040
It's Izat.

00:33:01.040 --> 00:33:02.640
That's what they're doing.

00:33:03.120 --> 00:33:08.480
The important parts for Izat, it's their conception of purity.

00:33:08.480 --> 00:33:12.480
It's so alien to our conception of purity that calling it that

00:33:12.480 --> 00:33:13.920
almost seems insane.

00:33:14.240 --> 00:33:17.520
Chastity's part of it, incidentally, you'd never know that from their behavior,

00:33:17.520 --> 00:33:19.920
but only female chastity, not male.

00:33:19.920 --> 00:33:26.080
So. And then adherence to your caste assigned role in society.

00:33:26.080 --> 00:33:29.760
It is considered dishonourable to move outside of that.

00:33:29.760 --> 00:33:34.080
Incidentally it was also historically considered dishonorable to go abroad.

00:33:34.080 --> 00:33:39.360
They had a taboo against crossing deep water, basically.

00:33:39.360 --> 00:33:40.880
Religious weirdness.

00:33:40.880 --> 00:33:44.720
At any rate, they are part of the group of countries that

00:33:44.720 --> 00:33:48.240
will engage in honor killings for what is seen as a vi

00:33:48.640 --> 00:33:52.080
honor killings for what is seen as a violation of their honor.

00:33:52.080 --> 00:33:55.760
That's why you see murder of women happens a lot in these

00:33:55.760 --> 00:33:58.640
parts of the world.

00:33:58.640 --> 00:34:04.160
This also leads, incidentally, to what I mentioned earlier, the inbreeding problem.

00:34:04.160 --> 00:34:07.760
Part of it is seen as if you cross certain lines in

00:34:07.760 --> 00:34:10.320
order to marry, well that's dishonorable.

00:34:10.320 --> 00:34:13.200
Well the problem is this gets taken to the extreme in many

00:34:13.200 --> 00:34:17.440
cases, and they wind up marrying their first cousins, or even closer,

00:34:17.440 --> 00:34:20.720
over many, many years, centuries.

00:34:20.720 --> 00:34:23.520
That explains almost all of what is wrong with India, other than

00:34:23.520 --> 00:34:27.360
the fact they worship demons, which is obviously important.

00:34:27.360 --> 00:34:30.960
But what this does with this conception of honor is that you

00:34:30.960 --> 00:34:34.320
have, like I mentioned, all these little warring groups.

00:34:34.320 --> 00:34:38.240
You know, you have warring groups within a family, and then you

00:34:38.240 --> 00:34:40.960
have families against families, then you have tribe against tribe, then you

00:34:40.960 --> 00:34:43.760
have region of the country against region of the country.

00:34:43.760 --> 00:34:47.760
This is a recipe for just complete chaos in society and everything

00:34:47.840 --> 00:34:50.560
except for what we would call honor.

00:34:50.560 --> 00:34:53.200
It's one of the reasons India had so much trouble and is

00:34:53.200 --> 00:34:56.720
still having trouble modernizing and industrializing.

00:34:56.720 --> 00:34:59.520
Part of it's because of the extremely low IQ in India, and

00:34:59.520 --> 00:35:03.680
part of it's because at every single possible opportunity there is graft

00:35:03.680 --> 00:35:05.440
and theft and corruption.

00:35:05.440 --> 00:35:11.040
Because taking whatever you can is honorable because you are improving your

00:35:11.040 --> 00:35:12.960
position and that of your family.

00:35:13.120 --> 00:35:16.720
Doesn't matter that it's the expense of everyone else because that guy

00:35:16.720 --> 00:35:19.600
is a different tribe, and now we're thinking of tribes, and so

00:35:19.600 --> 00:35:22.720
it's part of the reason India is the way that it is.

00:35:22.720 --> 00:35:27.280
And I'll there's also the fact they don't respect contracts.

00:35:27.280 --> 00:35:31.600
Only really two parts of the world truly respect contracts, the Japanese

00:35:31.600 --> 00:35:32.800
and Europe.

00:35:32.800 --> 00:35:37.440
So it's been a major problem in international business.

00:35:37.440 --> 00:35:41.040
The nation in the Indian mind matters less than the small group.

00:35:41.040 --> 00:35:44.000
This is going to be sort of a difference with

00:35:44.880 --> 00:35:46.720
the Japanese and the Chinese.

00:35:46.720 --> 00:35:50.640
You see a little bit more concern for the nation for the

00:35:51.040 --> 00:35:55.520
racial group writ large as opposed to the Indians where well I

00:35:55.520 --> 00:35:56.160
got mine.

00:35:56.160 --> 00:36:00.000
I don't really care about everyone else and there are some dynamics

00:36:00.000 --> 00:36:02.560
there that are just due to population size, but not entirely because

00:36:02.560 --> 00:36:05.600
obviously China has, you know, some hundreds of millions of people as

00:36:05.600 --> 00:36:08.000
well, a billion, whatever it happens to be.

00:36:08.000 --> 00:36:10.720
They don't even know.

00:36:10.720 --> 00:36:13.680
But to answer the question in short, now that we sort of

00:36:13.680 --> 00:36:17.600
have the everything laid on the table as it were, it really

00:36:18.000 --> 00:36:21.360
comes down to honor and genetics.

00:36:21.360 --> 00:36:25.280
Because their conceptions of honor, but obviously the honor is built up

00:36:25.280 --> 00:36:28.160
on that ideology and that religious foundation.

00:36:28.160 --> 00:36:32.800
But what these things have done is they have sort of formed

00:36:32.800 --> 00:36:40.400
this feedback loop and created a worldview in each of these respective

00:36:40.400 --> 00:36:46.560
nations, these respective countries, that has that has entrenched certain biological proclivities

00:36:46.720 --> 00:36:51.120
and in some cases corrupted them, the Indian case due to inbreeding.

00:36:51.120 --> 00:36:56.960
And that combined with their natural abilities, has made them what they

00:36:56.960 --> 00:37:02.320
are. Again there's the aspect of it that you have less evil

00:37:02.320 --> 00:37:07.920
in the Japanese religion than the Hindu religion, the Indian religion, because

00:37:08.000 --> 00:37:10.480
Hinduism is literally just demon worship.

00:37:10.480 --> 00:37:17.600
In many cases, the Japanese is more revering your ancestors and

00:37:17.600 --> 00:37:22.400
nature, and yes, there are the local gods, but it's not open

00:37:22.800 --> 00:37:27.840
demon worship and human sacrifice like it is most of the human

00:37:27.840 --> 00:37:31.440
sacrifice, not anymore, but still going on in some of the hinterlands

00:37:31.440 --> 00:37:32.160
in India.

00:37:32.160 --> 00:37:36.960
And so these things combined led to the difference in these peoples.

00:37:36.960 --> 00:37:38.560
Part of it is IQ.

00:37:38.560 --> 00:37:41.600
The Japanese are much brighter than the other groups.

00:37:41.600 --> 00:37:43.040
That includes the Chinese.

00:37:43.040 --> 00:37:46.800
The coastal Chinese, you have a swath of them that are high

00:37:46.800 --> 00:37:51.520
IQ, that are intelligent, but you have the IQ drops off as

00:37:51.520 --> 00:37:53.920
you go toward the the hinterlands.

00:37:54.880 --> 00:37:56.800
Again, different racial groups.

00:37:56.800 --> 00:38:01.520
It's an empire, not a cohesive, coherent, homogeneous nation.

00:38:01.520 --> 00:38:06.640
So that's sort of the brief explanation of these things.

00:38:06.640 --> 00:38:09.200
Obviously, like I said, this could take a very long time to

00:38:09.200 --> 00:38:10.560
go over all of it.

00:38:10.560 --> 00:38:15.200
But hopefully, that is enough of an explanation of why these different

00:38:15.200 --> 00:38:18.240
peoples have wound up how they are.

00:38:18.240 --> 00:38:20.880
And this is entrenched over thousands of years.

00:38:20.880 --> 00:38:23.040
This is not something that happened quickly.

00:38:23.040 --> 00:38:26.960
And to sort of draw out a lesson from this, it's one

00:38:26.960 --> 00:38:29.440
of the reasons we have to care about these things in our

00:38:29.440 --> 00:38:30.720
own context.

00:38:30.720 --> 00:38:35.200
Imagine what you could wind up doing to Europeans if we behaved

00:38:35.200 --> 00:38:36.960
like the Indians for 5,000 years.

00:38:36.960 --> 00:38:40.160
We'd be just as bad as they are.

00:38:40.160 --> 00:38:42.640
So we're not above it.

00:38:42.640 --> 00:38:44.240
We're not immune to it.

00:38:44.240 --> 00:38:47.440
It's one of the reasons we have to be so concerned about

00:38:48.000 --> 00:38:52.640
marriage laws and you know biology and genetics and all these other

00:38:52.640 --> 00:38:57.040
considerations because if we don't have those concerns, the experiment has already

00:38:57.040 --> 00:38:57.760
been run.

00:38:57.760 --> 00:38:59.040
We see what will happen.

00:38:59.040 --> 00:39:04.240
We don't want to become that.

00:39:04.240 --> 00:39:07.120
The The next question is also

00:39:08.560 --> 00:39:11.840
somewhat in depth, but I'm going to have sort of a light

00:39:11.840 --> 00:39:13.440
touch with this one just because

00:39:15.040 --> 00:39:19.440
this again would take Months to cover fully.

00:39:19.440 --> 00:39:22.880
So question two: can you go in depth of how the swastika

00:39:22.880 --> 00:39:25.520
and national socialism is absolutely Christian?

00:39:25.520 --> 00:39:29.840
We greatly appreciate your in-depth apologetics on this as men are being

00:39:29.840 --> 00:39:34.400
barred from the table over their political stance.

00:39:34.400 --> 00:39:36.320
There are two answers here.

00:39:36.320 --> 00:39:41.600
I am first going to give the practical answer and then sort

00:39:41.600 --> 00:39:45.200
of the not full, because again, not going into it in that

00:39:45.200 --> 00:39:46.160
great a depth.

00:39:46.160 --> 00:39:47.920
But the real answer as it were.

00:39:47.920 --> 00:39:50.080
First I'm going to take a sip of coffee.

00:39:50.080 --> 00:39:52.640
And it is coffee tonight, not tea.

00:39:57.360 --> 00:40:01.520
Summer has begun in earnest here and so I do not want

00:40:01.520 --> 00:40:04.080
hot tea.

00:40:04.080 --> 00:40:05.840
But I will bring up

00:40:07.360 --> 00:40:11.360
my browser here.

00:40:11.360 --> 00:40:12.000
So So

00:40:15.200 --> 00:40:18.240
the practical answer is that you are not going to change the

00:40:18.240 --> 00:40:22.000
minds of most of these people, and so don't try.

00:40:22.000 --> 00:40:26.320
It's not me saying you you know don't try because you know

00:40:26.400 --> 00:40:28.080
there's a small chance of success.

00:40:28.080 --> 00:40:33.120
It's saying you are going to make your own life miserable and

00:40:33.120 --> 00:40:38.320
achieve probably nothing in the process or just make things worse?

00:40:38.320 --> 00:40:42.160
And I am mostly giving the answer that I give to millennials

00:40:42.160 --> 00:40:46.160
and Gen Z with regard to the baby boomers.

00:40:46.160 --> 00:40:48.000
And I know Gen X, so I was like, oh you forgot

00:40:48.000 --> 00:40:48.400
me. No.

00:40:48.400 --> 00:40:51.680
Gen X is split, you're a millennial or you're a boomer, depending.

00:40:51.680 --> 00:40:53.920
You're a young boomer and old millennial.

00:40:53.920 --> 00:40:56.640
So pick the one you want to be.

00:40:56.640 --> 00:41:00.000
But insofar as that's concerned, you are never going to convince the

00:41:00.000 --> 00:41:02.640
boomers of these things.

00:41:02.640 --> 00:41:06.400
So if you bring it up with them, just know that you

00:41:06.400 --> 00:41:10.560
are going to probably have a knockdown, drag out fight, and they

00:41:10.720 --> 00:41:13.360
are not going to listen, you're not going to get anywhere, and

00:41:13.360 --> 00:41:15.920
if they can, they will kick you out of the church.

00:41:15.920 --> 00:41:17.920
That's the reality of it.

00:41:17.920 --> 00:41:18.240
And

00:41:19.440 --> 00:41:22.160
the only thing that can be done about that is waiting for

00:41:22.160 --> 00:41:26.800
them to retire or die off and be replaced by better men.

00:41:27.120 --> 00:41:28.480
That's already happening.

00:41:28.480 --> 00:41:31.600
There are faithful churches that are springing up now.

00:41:31.600 --> 00:41:35.760
There are churches that are starting to get that turnover in elders.

00:41:35.760 --> 00:41:39.760
And so men from our generation or younger are taking on those

00:41:39.760 --> 00:41:43.520
roles, they will be better men than the baby boomers were and

00:41:43.520 --> 00:41:49.040
are. But the full answer, right?

00:41:49.360 --> 00:41:51.200
That would be that

00:41:53.520 --> 00:42:00.800
As I've said, National Socialism is Christianity translated into

00:42:01.120 --> 00:42:02.400
politics.

00:42:03.440 --> 00:42:05.920
And the reason that I say that

00:42:07.360 --> 00:42:11.760
is sort of partly as a refutation of those who try to

00:42:11.760 --> 00:42:13.840
say, oh, it's just it's all about the gospel.

00:42:13.840 --> 00:42:14.800
It's just the gospel.

00:42:14.800 --> 00:42:17.120
It's not only the gospel.

00:42:17.120 --> 00:42:21.680
If it were only the gospel, the Bible would be really short,

00:42:21.680 --> 00:42:24.320
right? But it's not.

00:42:24.320 --> 00:42:26.320
Because there's more to it than that.

00:42:26.320 --> 00:42:29.600
There's quite a bit more to it than that.

00:42:29.600 --> 00:42:32.880
So when someone tells you it's all about Jesus, just the gospel,

00:42:32.880 --> 00:42:36.080
that person is going to try to ruin your life in some

00:42:36.080 --> 00:42:38.480
way, and you should probably avoid him.

00:42:40.320 --> 00:42:43.600
Even Christ spends a lot of time talking about stuff that isn't

00:42:43.600 --> 00:42:44.640
the gospel.

00:42:44.640 --> 00:42:49.440
Most of his time is dedicated to stuff that isn't the gospel.

00:42:49.440 --> 00:42:53.920
There is more to the Christian life than just Jesus died for

00:42:53.920 --> 00:42:57.120
your sins and rose again, and if you believe you will be

00:42:57.120 --> 00:42:58.080
saved. That's great news.

00:42:58.320 --> 00:42:59.280
That is the gospel.

00:42:59.280 --> 00:43:01.360
That is wonderful news.

00:43:01.360 --> 00:43:03.920
But it doesn't tell you how to live your life.

00:43:03.920 --> 00:43:06.160
It doesn't tell you how to grow tomato plants.

00:43:06.160 --> 00:43:08.400
You know, you can use trivial examples like that.

00:43:08.400 --> 00:43:10.000
It doesn't tell you what to do with your wife.

00:43:10.240 --> 00:43:13.120
You can use important examples like that, right?

00:43:13.120 --> 00:43:16.640
So there's more to it.

00:43:16.640 --> 00:43:21.040
But I would give a twofold answer just sort of for this

00:43:21.040 --> 00:43:24.480
answer here tonight and as a starting place for anyone who is

00:43:24.480 --> 00:43:27.120
going to run into this problem.

00:43:27.120 --> 00:43:29.840
I may go into this more in depth in the future, maybe

00:43:29.840 --> 00:43:31.120
I'll write something on it.

00:43:31.120 --> 00:43:32.320
I haven't written a book yet.

00:43:32.320 --> 00:43:33.280
I'm not saying I will.

00:43:33.280 --> 00:43:36.320
I honestly not much of a desire to do so, but perhaps

00:43:36.320 --> 00:43:37.200
someone should.

00:43:38.080 --> 00:43:41.680
But the two ways that I would approach this would be looking

00:43:41.680 --> 00:43:45.520
at the party platform of the National Socialists and looking at the

00:43:45.600 --> 00:43:48.320
28 Theses of the German Christians.

00:43:48.320 --> 00:43:51.200
The latter is going to be the one that is more compelling

00:43:51.200 --> 00:43:57.360
for Christians for obvious reasons, because the former is really politics, right?

00:43:57.360 --> 00:44:00.800
The former is their political program.

00:44:00.800 --> 00:44:01.440
And so

00:44:04.320 --> 00:44:09.440
I think I'll probably start with the 25 point program instead of

00:44:09.440 --> 00:44:12.160
starting with the 28 theses.

00:44:12.160 --> 00:44:17.840
But to pull up this, right, and of course, OBS decided to

00:44:18.160 --> 00:44:20.720
move my window.

00:44:20.720 --> 00:44:22.320
Let me fix this.

00:44:22.320 --> 00:44:25.440
I will just bring up just the browser for right now.

00:44:25.440 --> 00:44:28.160
See if I can fix that.

00:44:28.480 --> 00:44:30.080
I don't know why OBS does that.

00:44:30.080 --> 00:44:34.720
Anyway, They are going to object to this.

00:44:34.720 --> 00:44:37.840
The men who are going to object are going to object based

00:44:37.840 --> 00:44:39.760
on race, right?

00:44:40.080 --> 00:44:45.120
Obviously, because yes, you're going to get libertarians who object to things

00:44:45.120 --> 00:44:49.600
like old age pensions which are in here, right, point fifteen.

00:44:49.600 --> 00:44:52.800
You're going to have people who object to point fourteen saying it's

00:44:52.800 --> 00:44:53.920
anti-capitalist, which it is.

00:44:53.920 --> 00:44:55.600
They were anti-capitalist.

00:44:55.600 --> 00:44:59.040
That's part of this, you know, it's the third way versus Jewish

00:44:59.040 --> 00:45:01.280
capitalism and Jewish communism.

00:45:01.280 --> 00:45:04.240
And for the men who are willing to hear, important to include

00:45:04.240 --> 00:45:06.960
that Jewish part because they're both Jewish, it's what they are, it's

00:45:06.960 --> 00:45:08.880
the kosher sandwich.

00:45:08.880 --> 00:45:10.400
This is the alternative to it.

00:45:10.400 --> 00:45:12.640
This is the Christian way of looking at it.

00:45:12.640 --> 00:45:16.960
And if you start reading the Church Fathers, you read the Reformation

00:45:16.960 --> 00:45:20.240
Fathers, you're not going to find capitalism in these men.

00:45:20.240 --> 00:45:23.120
You're going to find anti-capitalist rhetoric.

00:45:23.120 --> 00:45:26.080
You are going to find Luther complaining about prices.

00:45:26.080 --> 00:45:30.560
You're going to find him condemning merchants for charging whatever they please.

00:45:30.560 --> 00:45:36.640
This modern integration of capitalism and Christianity is anathema to Christian history.

00:45:36.640 --> 00:45:40.560
And so those who will object on those grounds are just completely

00:45:40.560 --> 00:45:44.640
ignorant of what Christianity teaches and what Christians have believed for hundreds

00:45:44.640 --> 00:45:46.880
of years for two thousand years.

00:45:46.880 --> 00:45:50.320
But like I said, the big objection is going to be the

00:45:50.320 --> 00:45:51.360
issue of race.

00:45:51.360 --> 00:45:55.760
And so how do you overcome the objection for those who are

00:45:55.760 --> 00:45:57.760
willing to listen with regard to race?

00:45:57.760 --> 00:46:01.040
Well, you have to explain to them race first, because they're going

00:46:01.040 --> 00:46:04.480
to have to understand what it is, because they probably don't.

00:46:04.480 --> 00:46:06.720
We did a series on that for Stone Choir.

00:46:06.720 --> 00:46:08.480
If you can get them to listen to that, great, it's going

00:46:08.480 --> 00:46:10.160
to do a lot of the work for you.

00:46:10.160 --> 00:46:12.320
And anytime you can get someone to do that for you, it's

00:46:12.320 --> 00:46:14.720
great, because then you have the foundation built and you can just

00:46:14.720 --> 00:46:17.120
build upon the foundation.

00:46:17.120 --> 00:46:19.040
But if you have

00:46:20.000 --> 00:46:25.840
a proper understanding of race, then none of this is objectionable whatsoever,

00:46:25.840 --> 00:46:30.480
because all it says is that we want our nation in the

00:46:30.480 --> 00:46:34.480
sense of the land, to be composed of our nation in the

00:46:34.480 --> 00:46:35.840
sense of the blood.

00:46:35.840 --> 00:46:40.320
We want the people running our nation to be of our nation.

00:46:40.320 --> 00:46:41.600
Well that makes perfect sense.

00:46:41.600 --> 00:46:44.720
You can even get to some of these points by coming at

00:46:44.720 --> 00:46:46.720
it sort of tangentially, right?

00:46:46.720 --> 00:46:49.760
You if you're talking to another American, should the president be an

00:46:49.760 --> 00:46:52.240
American? He's probably going to say yes.

00:46:52.240 --> 00:46:54.720
Why? See what he answers.

00:46:54.720 --> 00:46:56.880
See if he gives you something where you can go with it,

00:46:56.880 --> 00:46:59.200
okay? What is an American?

00:46:59.200 --> 00:47:01.600
If they're just going to say, well, it's anyone who has the

00:47:01.600 --> 00:47:03.280
paperwork who's naturalized, okay, so

00:47:04.560 --> 00:47:07.840
anyone in the world can be an American as long as I

00:47:07.840 --> 00:47:10.560
give him a piece of paper.

00:47:10.560 --> 00:47:13.920
If you're dealing with someone who doesn't see that's absurd, you're probably

00:47:13.920 --> 00:47:15.520
wasting your time.

00:47:15.520 --> 00:47:18.560
If you can get him to see that that's absurd, then maybe

00:47:18.560 --> 00:47:20.480
you can get somewhere.

00:47:20.480 --> 00:47:26.080
Because you have to recognize the fundamental reality of race before you

00:47:26.080 --> 00:47:30.160
can get someone to build up to this sort of ideology, right?

00:47:30.240 --> 00:47:32.000
This is jumping in the deep end.

00:47:32.000 --> 00:47:33.600
This is meat not milk.

00:47:33.600 --> 00:47:36.720
You have to subsist on the milk first.

00:47:36.720 --> 00:47:40.560
You have to understand the basics before you can build up to

00:47:40.560 --> 00:47:41.520
something else.

00:47:41.520 --> 00:47:45.040
And so if you don't have these building blocks, you're never going

00:47:45.040 --> 00:47:48.720
to get someone to understand that national socialism and Christianity are not

00:47:48.720 --> 00:47:53.600
simply compatible, but the one is the natural outcome of the other.

00:47:53.600 --> 00:47:59.600
National socialism is the natural outcome of applying Christian theology to the

00:47:59.600 --> 00:48:02.800
political, the economic, and the social.

00:48:02.800 --> 00:48:06.080
And you can see that in particular in the 28th Theses, and

00:48:06.080 --> 00:48:08.160
I'll get into that in a minute here.

00:48:08.400 --> 00:48:12.720
But again, just to reiterate, with regard to race, you have to

00:48:12.720 --> 00:48:14.800
get them to understand that it exists.

00:48:14.800 --> 00:48:16.240
There are a lot of arguments for that.

00:48:16.240 --> 00:48:19.840
Go listen to the series from Stone Choir.

00:48:19.840 --> 00:48:25.360
You can sometimes get there by asking someone about, you know, children,

00:48:25.360 --> 00:48:30.080
right? If you pick a random child off the street and stick

00:48:30.080 --> 00:48:34.160
'em in your basement, is that your child now?

00:48:34.160 --> 00:48:37.280
No. Is that your child in any meaningful way?

00:48:37.280 --> 00:48:39.600
No. Does that mean you can't adopt a child?

00:48:39.600 --> 00:48:40.800
No, of course not.

00:48:40.800 --> 00:48:42.000
But is there's a difference?

00:48:42.000 --> 00:48:46.000
Is there a distinction between the child, you know, particularly helps if

00:48:46.000 --> 00:48:46.880
you're talking to a woman?

00:48:46.880 --> 00:48:50.240
Is there a difference between the child to whom you gave birth

00:48:50.480 --> 00:48:54.080
versus the child you attained with a contract?

00:48:54.080 --> 00:48:56.160
That's what adoption is ultimately.

00:48:56.160 --> 00:48:58.560
And I'm not saying adoption is bad because adoption is good.

00:48:58.560 --> 00:49:01.120
It has to play a role in society because sometimes people die

00:49:01.120 --> 00:49:02.560
and leave their children behind, right?

00:49:02.560 --> 00:49:06.080
That happens, that's unfortunate, but we live in a fallen world.

00:49:06.080 --> 00:49:12.000
But we all recognize there's a distinction between the biological child and

00:49:12.000 --> 00:49:13.440
the adopted child.

00:49:13.440 --> 00:49:15.360
You can love both of those children.

00:49:15.360 --> 00:49:17.840
You can be an excellent parent to both of them, but there

00:49:17.840 --> 00:49:18.960
is a difference.

00:49:18.960 --> 00:49:22.640
And just because you have a piece of paper, it doesn't erase

00:49:22.640 --> 00:49:24.160
the difference.

00:49:24.160 --> 00:49:30.880
Right? There are cases where animals have adopted, as in the animal

00:49:30.880 --> 00:49:37.200
sense, another animal into their pack that didn't change the species of

00:49:37.200 --> 00:49:39.280
the animal that was adopted.

00:49:39.280 --> 00:49:42.080
My cats and my dogs get along really well.

00:49:42.080 --> 00:49:45.280
It doesn't make the cats into a dog.

00:49:45.280 --> 00:49:46.640
Different things.

00:49:46.640 --> 00:49:49.680
The same thing is true with regard to race, and sometimes you

00:49:49.680 --> 00:49:51.760
can approach it in that way, right?

00:49:51.760 --> 00:49:53.520
Are there different breeds of dogs?

00:49:53.520 --> 00:49:54.480
We have course.

00:49:54.480 --> 00:49:56.080
Are there different breeds of horses?

00:49:56.080 --> 00:49:57.040
We have of course.

00:49:57.040 --> 00:49:59.120
Are there different breeds of goat?

00:49:59.120 --> 00:50:00.560
Yes of course.

00:50:00.560 --> 00:50:02.960
I have black copper moron chickens.

00:50:02.960 --> 00:50:04.880
They're a particular breed of chicken.

00:50:04.880 --> 00:50:08.640
They produce a particular kind of egg, that is a particularly good

00:50:08.640 --> 00:50:12.640
egg. If I had random other chickens, it would not be the

00:50:12.640 --> 00:50:15.680
same. Everyone is going to agree with you on that.

00:50:15.680 --> 00:50:17.200
They all recognize that.

00:50:17.200 --> 00:50:19.280
They will even go so far as to agree that it is

00:50:19.280 --> 00:50:24.080
genetic in nature, because if I go out right now and take

00:50:24.080 --> 00:50:26.800
some of the eggs that are sitting in the nesting box in

00:50:26.800 --> 00:50:31.680
my barn and then hatch those, I will get black copper morons.

00:50:31.920 --> 00:50:33.760
I won't get Astrolorps.

00:50:33.760 --> 00:50:36.560
I won't get any other kind of chicken.

00:50:36.560 --> 00:50:39.120
We could list a hundred different kinds of chicken.

00:50:39.120 --> 00:50:43.120
I will get the ones that produce the egg because it is

00:50:43.120 --> 00:50:48.400
genetic. If you have a child with your wife, the child is

00:50:48.400 --> 00:50:52.960
going to be a combination of you and your wife.

00:50:52.960 --> 00:50:54.800
Because that's how genetics works.

00:50:54.800 --> 00:50:57.520
So if you can build up to these things and get the

00:50:57.520 --> 00:51:02.560
person to recognize the building blocks, then you're going to have to

00:51:02.560 --> 00:51:05.680
wait. This is the part that so many hate.

00:51:05.680 --> 00:51:09.280
You are not going to get the person to simply flat out

00:51:09.280 --> 00:51:13.840
agree with you in one course of discussion starting from nothing, building

00:51:13.840 --> 00:51:16.080
up to, well, I'm a national socialist now.

00:51:16.080 --> 00:51:19.440
That happens once in a hundred thousand times.

00:51:19.440 --> 00:51:22.320
You build up a little bit at a time and you give

00:51:22.320 --> 00:51:24.400
the person time to process it.

00:51:24.400 --> 00:51:26.720
You know, you see how far you can push.

00:51:26.720 --> 00:51:29.680
You give them a book on some subset of this.

00:51:29.680 --> 00:51:35.520
You're building up the foundation the person needs to change his worldview

00:51:35.520 --> 00:51:39.360
to something that is consonant with the truth, as opposed to what

00:51:39.360 --> 00:51:43.040
he learned in school, as opposed to the propaganda.

00:51:43.040 --> 00:51:47.680
It takes time, it's difficult, and the biggest part again that people

00:51:47.680 --> 00:51:50.960
hate is that waiting, because you are not going to get him

00:51:50.960 --> 00:51:52.880
to change all his views in one night.

00:51:52.880 --> 00:51:57.200
This is to give you an example, sort of an illustration.

00:51:57.200 --> 00:52:01.120
This is something that has to be taught to new attorneys.

00:52:01.760 --> 00:52:09.520
Because everyone has this conception, this misconception of particularly

00:52:09.840 --> 00:52:14.880
courtwork. They have this idea that you get a witness on the

00:52:14.880 --> 00:52:19.840
stand and you just ask the right chain of questions, you ask

00:52:19.840 --> 00:52:23.520
the right question the right way, and he confesses.

00:52:23.520 --> 00:52:25.680
Or he gives you exactly what you want.

00:52:25.680 --> 00:52:29.440
He gives you the exact answer you need to convict some guy

00:52:29.520 --> 00:52:32.880
or to whatever it happens, it doesn't happen.

00:52:32.880 --> 00:52:37.680
Occasionally you find someone dumb enough, but it almost never happens.

00:52:37.680 --> 00:52:40.000
That's not how you build a case.

00:52:40.000 --> 00:52:45.280
You build up a case by getting specific answers to specific questions

00:52:45.440 --> 00:52:49.520
and then stringing all of that together into your argument in your

00:52:49.520 --> 00:52:50.800
closing argument.

00:52:50.800 --> 00:52:52.640
That's why I like closing arguments.

00:52:52.640 --> 00:52:56.000
Opening is okay, but I like closing arguments because that's the stringing

00:52:56.000 --> 00:52:58.320
it together and making the ultimate argument.

00:52:58.320 --> 00:53:02.080
Piecing it together is a tight is a different thing.

00:53:02.080 --> 00:53:03.360
It's vitally important.

00:53:03.360 --> 00:53:04.480
You have to have it.

00:53:04.480 --> 00:53:06.240
But it's a different thing.

00:53:06.240 --> 00:53:09.360
That's what I was doing against James White in that debate, and

00:53:09.360 --> 00:53:12.960
he recognized it, which is why he was so uncomfortable.

00:53:12.960 --> 00:53:15.360
That's how you do it.

00:53:15.360 --> 00:53:19.760
You do not get the person the opposition witness, the person who

00:53:19.760 --> 00:53:22.480
is hostile to you, to make your case.

00:53:22.480 --> 00:53:25.440
But you get him to give you all the pieces you need

00:53:25.440 --> 00:53:27.280
to make your case.

00:53:27.280 --> 00:53:30.160
Here, what you're doing is you're giving that person all the little

00:53:30.160 --> 00:53:34.080
bits and pieces he needs to ruminate on it later, to build

00:53:34.080 --> 00:53:35.920
up the case in his own mind.

00:53:35.920 --> 00:53:41.200
He will form some probably shoddy, slapdash version of it, but you

00:53:41.200 --> 00:53:44.000
can help him improve it over time.

00:53:44.000 --> 00:53:47.360
But to move on to the twenty eight Theses, the the way

00:53:47.360 --> 00:53:50.000
you're going to win over a Christian, if you possibly can.

00:53:50.000 --> 00:53:51.200
You can give him my article.

00:53:51.200 --> 00:53:53.520
By all means, I'll put this in the show notes.

00:53:53.520 --> 00:53:56.240
I read through it earlier and found a couple typos I have

00:53:56.240 --> 00:53:56.960
to fix.

00:53:56.960 --> 00:54:00.400
Inevitable typos are just impossible to fix all of them in the

00:54:00.400 --> 00:54:05.680
first go through, but not the change anything, just minor things, obviously.

00:54:05.680 --> 00:54:08.000
This is what you want to go through with someone who is

00:54:08.000 --> 00:54:12.000
Christian, and ask him, to what do you object?

00:54:12.000 --> 00:54:15.280
Which parts of this are objectionable to you?

00:54:15.280 --> 00:54:19.200
What part of this do you think is not Christian?

00:54:19.200 --> 00:54:21.840
Because now you're going to have a real discussion, because if you

00:54:21.840 --> 00:54:25.440
object to any parts of this With I'm going to bring up

00:54:25.440 --> 00:54:26.400
one possible

00:54:27.840 --> 00:54:30.000
counterexample here, as it were.

00:54:30.000 --> 00:54:34.240
If you object to any part of this, well, okay, you're just

00:54:34.240 --> 00:54:36.880
not a Protestant.

00:54:36.880 --> 00:54:41.280
And I'm not saying as opposed to Roman Catholic, but Roman Catholics

00:54:41.280 --> 00:54:43.920
could object to parts of this because it is very Lutheran.

00:54:43.920 --> 00:54:45.840
It is very Protestant.

00:54:45.840 --> 00:54:50.000
But you can't object to it in large part because almost all

00:54:50.000 --> 00:54:52.160
of it is simply Christian.

00:54:52.160 --> 00:54:54.560
It's sort of not on the same level and I so I

00:54:54.560 --> 00:54:56.880
don't want anyone to say, oh well he's com elevating this to

00:54:56.960 --> 00:55:00.720
the point of a confession, an ecumenical creed, right?

00:55:00.720 --> 00:55:04.720
No. If you object to any part of the creed, you have

00:55:04.720 --> 00:55:07.280
fallen below the standard of a Christian.

00:55:07.280 --> 00:55:11.520
Because the creeds are simply a restatement of Scripture.

00:55:11.520 --> 00:55:15.280
With regard to this, this is a statement of theology pulled from

00:55:15.280 --> 00:55:19.040
Scripture And so if someone objects to it, he better have a

00:55:19.040 --> 00:55:21.200
very good reason for objecting to it.

00:55:21.200 --> 00:55:23.600
And not just because it was written by those evil Germans and

00:55:23.600 --> 00:55:25.840
I don't like them and their language sounds scary.

00:55:25.840 --> 00:55:27.440
That's not a legitimate argument.

00:55:27.440 --> 00:55:30.320
And you know it's translated into English, so don't even have to

00:55:30.560 --> 00:55:35.680
deal with the German, but it's there if you want it.

00:55:35.680 --> 00:55:39.440
Now like I said, this is very Lutheran, it's very Protestant, and

00:55:39.440 --> 00:55:44.720
it's not necessarily condemning Rome, so it's not anti Roman Catholic.

00:55:44.720 --> 00:55:48.000
It does say that the Roman Catholic position is wrong in some

00:55:48.000 --> 00:55:50.960
ways. So for instance, right here you say, you know, the Church

00:55:50.960 --> 00:55:55.760
cannot be above the state as the Roman Catholic position asserts, right?

00:55:56.160 --> 00:55:59.200
The mouse actually shows for once, that's nice.

00:55:59.200 --> 00:56:02.800
So obviously there are some disagreements with Rome.

00:56:02.800 --> 00:56:05.840
But it's not condemning Rome and saying Rome isn't Christian.

00:56:05.840 --> 00:56:09.520
It's saying we disagree with some of the political ideas of Rome

00:56:09.520 --> 00:56:13.280
with regard to how the church and the state interact.

00:56:13.280 --> 00:56:17.120
But for any Lutheran, you're going to have a very hard time

00:56:17.120 --> 00:56:19.760
as a Lutheran looking at this, reading through this, and objecting to

00:56:19.760 --> 00:56:24.560
it without ceasing to be a Lutheran, because it is all staunchly

00:56:24.560 --> 00:56:29.280
founded and firmly founded on theology from not just the Book of

00:56:29.280 --> 00:56:32.880
Concord, but our Lutheran forefathers and

00:56:33.760 --> 00:56:37.360
basically none of it's objectionable, obviously it even mentions Luther a number

00:56:37.360 --> 00:56:38.880
of times.

00:56:38.880 --> 00:56:40.400
But this is what you want to do.

00:56:40.400 --> 00:56:42.960
Go through this on your own first, obviously.

00:56:42.960 --> 00:56:44.720
Go through it point by point.

00:56:44.720 --> 00:56:46.960
See if there are things to which you object.

00:56:46.960 --> 00:56:48.080
Figure out why.

00:56:48.080 --> 00:56:51.440
If there is nothing to which you object, then you can go

00:56:51.440 --> 00:56:53.840
over this with someone else and ask him, and you can work

00:56:53.840 --> 00:56:55.200
through those problems.

00:56:55.200 --> 00:57:00.400
Part of figuring out why someone objects to these things is finding

00:57:00.400 --> 00:57:05.120
what his point of objection is and then why he believes that.

00:57:05.120 --> 00:57:07.680
Maybe he doesn't have a reason for believing it.

00:57:07.680 --> 00:57:10.480
If you can get him to recognize that, then you've made some

00:57:10.480 --> 00:57:12.480
good progress.

00:57:12.480 --> 00:57:17.280
But everything in this statement is solidly Christian.

00:57:17.280 --> 00:57:19.680
Like I said, there's one thing to which some are going to

00:57:19.680 --> 00:57:23.760
disagree. They're going to object to this thing, and that is because

00:57:23.760 --> 00:57:27.120
there is the Aryan paragraph.

00:57:27.120 --> 00:57:28.000
So called.

00:57:28.320 --> 00:57:30.720
they don't call it the Arian paragraph, they even call it the

00:57:30.720 --> 00:57:31.920
so-called Arian paragraph.

00:57:31.920 --> 00:57:34.800
But that's usually what it's called in English language literature.

00:57:34.800 --> 00:57:37.200
So by all means, use that if you want.

00:57:37.200 --> 00:57:38.560
It's point three.

00:57:38.560 --> 00:57:42.160
The People's Church commits itself to blood and race because the people

00:57:42.160 --> 00:57:44.480
are a community of blood and essence.

00:57:44.480 --> 00:57:49.040
Therefore only those who are national comrades according to the state's law

00:57:49.040 --> 00:57:51.120
can be members of the people's church.

00:57:51.120 --> 00:57:54.560
Only those who can be state officials according to the state's law

00:57:54.720 --> 00:57:57.920
can be office holders in the people's church.

00:57:57.920 --> 00:58:01.120
That is the thing to which they are going to object.

00:58:01.120 --> 00:58:02.880
And you want to ask them why.

00:58:02.880 --> 00:58:04.160
Why do you object to that?

00:58:04.160 --> 00:58:06.160
Well you're saying that they aren't Chr no.

00:58:06.160 --> 00:58:10.000
It actually explicitly says in point four, and that's the great part

00:58:10.000 --> 00:58:14.320
of this, many of the objections are explicitly addressed in the document.

00:58:14.320 --> 00:58:16.880
So when someone objects, you can even lay a trap for them,

00:58:16.880 --> 00:58:18.800
right? If they object to that, you can say, Well you're saying

00:58:18.800 --> 00:58:21.120
that Christians of another race aren't Christian.

00:58:21.120 --> 00:58:22.000
Point four.

00:58:22.000 --> 00:58:26.240
A people's church does not mean excluding Christians of other races.

00:58:26.240 --> 00:58:30.000
From Word and Sacrament, or from the great Christian community of faith.

00:58:30.000 --> 00:58:33.040
A Christian of another race is not a lesser Christian, but rather

00:58:33.040 --> 00:58:35.600
a Christian of a different kind.

00:58:35.600 --> 00:58:39.040
Thus the People's Church takes seriously that the Christian Church does not

00:58:39.040 --> 00:58:42.240
yet live in the perfection of divine eternity, but is bound by

00:58:42.240 --> 00:58:44.480
the orders God has given to this life.

00:58:44.960 --> 00:58:48.480
The objection is addressed right in the next point.

00:58:48.480 --> 00:58:54.480
The point that this paragraph is making, point three, thesis three, is

00:58:54.480 --> 00:58:58.560
that those who are going to be members of the national church

00:58:58.560 --> 00:59:02.960
and serve in positions of authority in the national church have to

00:59:02.960 --> 00:59:07.680
be members of the nation because it is in a way wrongful

00:59:07.680 --> 00:59:12.560
to be ruled over by foreigners if you are capable of self-rule.

00:59:12.560 --> 00:59:16.800
Obviously the exception here, and I'm not even I'm somewhat disinclined to

00:59:16.800 --> 00:59:20.320
not even bring up the exception because we're basically talking about the

00:59:20.320 --> 00:59:25.120
Western European context, the Christendom context, mostly Americans obviously.

00:59:25.120 --> 00:59:28.640
I'm speaking English here, but I know some Germans and others as

00:59:28.640 --> 00:59:32.800
well. You can read the German.

00:59:32.800 --> 00:59:38.400
You want these people who can to produce their own leaders, to

00:59:38.400 --> 00:59:42.240
produce their own theologians, because they are going to know how to

00:59:42.240 --> 00:59:47.840
deal with the Christian faith in a particular racial, a particular national

00:59:47.840 --> 00:59:51.680
way that is going to be the natural expression of Christianity for

00:59:51.680 --> 00:59:52.720
that people.

00:59:52.720 --> 00:59:55.760
And I've gone into this many times before, there's nothing wrong with

00:59:55.760 --> 00:59:58.080
having a national expression of Christianity.

00:59:58.080 --> 01:00:00.880
For those nations that cannot do this for themselves, and you can

01:00:00.880 --> 01:00:04.240
think of any number of nations with an IQ below seventy can't

01:00:04.240 --> 01:00:09.840
produce theologians, they cannot remain orthodox, they have to be controlled, they

01:00:09.920 --> 01:00:13.040
have to be ordered and directed by their superiors.

01:00:13.040 --> 01:00:17.120
And I have no problem using that term because it is correct.

01:00:17.120 --> 01:00:20.640
For those people, they are going to have to have those of

01:00:20.640 --> 01:00:24.880
another race in positions of authority in their churches because otherwise they

01:00:24.880 --> 01:00:26.800
will never remain Christian.

01:00:26.800 --> 01:00:28.960
Germans don't have that problem.

01:00:28.960 --> 01:00:32.000
Americans don't have that problem, the French don't have that problem, the

01:00:32.000 --> 01:00:33.680
English don't have that problem.

01:00:33.680 --> 01:00:38.480
We can produce our own pastors, our own bishops, our own theologians

01:00:38.800 --> 01:00:40.160
just fine.

01:00:40.160 --> 01:00:44.880
Now, we should get along with those of other races who are

01:00:44.880 --> 01:00:45.920
also Christians.

01:00:45.920 --> 01:00:50.000
We shouldn't be at war with the Germans because they have a

01:00:50.000 --> 01:00:54.320
German Christianity that looks different from American Christianity.

01:00:54.320 --> 01:00:56.560
That's not valid.

01:00:56.560 --> 01:00:58.880
It's completely insane.

01:00:58.880 --> 01:01:01.440
There's nothing wrong with saying that to be a member of the

01:01:01.440 --> 01:01:05.280
church a member of the church, you should be a member of

01:01:05.280 --> 01:01:06.320
the nation.

01:01:06.320 --> 01:01:09.680
Because quite frankly, if you aren't a member of the nation, why

01:01:09.680 --> 01:01:10.880
are you even in the nation?

01:01:10.880 --> 01:01:12.880
You should not be there.

01:01:12.880 --> 01:01:16.560
What this partially says and what this is partially permitting is those

01:01:16.560 --> 01:01:20.880
who are sojourning, while they cannot join the Church, can still attend

01:01:20.880 --> 01:01:24.400
the service and receive the Word and the Sacrament, because they are

01:01:24.400 --> 01:01:25.440
still Christians.

01:01:25.440 --> 01:01:31.520
They are still part of the Invisible Church, the true, lowercase catholic,

01:01:31.520 --> 01:01:33.040
universal church.

01:01:33.200 --> 01:01:36.400
This does not deny in any way, shape, or form that you

01:01:36.400 --> 01:01:40.400
can be a Christian and be French instead of German, or even

01:01:40.400 --> 01:01:42.560
African instead of European.

01:01:48.160 --> 01:01:50.800
I really can't think of any other point to which someone is

01:01:50.800 --> 01:01:52.240
going to object in this.

01:01:52.240 --> 01:01:54.960
And so go through this.

01:01:54.960 --> 01:01:57.120
Because very few men have read this.

01:01:57.120 --> 01:02:00.080
Very few men know what the German Christians in the Third Reich

01:02:00.080 --> 01:02:00.880
actually believed.

01:02:00.880 --> 01:02:01.840
And this is what they believed.

01:02:01.840 --> 01:02:03.920
They bound themselves by this confession.

01:02:03.920 --> 01:02:08.800
In this case, it's particularly the Lutherans, and others who were Protestant,

01:02:08.800 --> 01:02:11.440
but this is what they actually said they believed.

01:02:11.680 --> 01:02:15.120
And so you can work through this with someone and say, where

01:02:15.600 --> 01:02:18.640
do you find that you think this is not Christian?

01:02:18.640 --> 01:02:21.120
I think I went over the one point where you're really going

01:02:21.120 --> 01:02:22.720
to have a problem.

01:02:22.720 --> 01:02:23.040
But

01:02:24.320 --> 01:02:28.560
That would be my recommendation for starting to try to get someone

01:02:29.520 --> 01:02:33.600
to have not an open mind, but a correct view of these

01:02:33.600 --> 01:02:37.760
things. To answer the other part of the question: how is the

01:02:37.760 --> 01:02:39.040
swastika Christian?

01:02:39.280 --> 01:02:41.280
Well, it's the Hakenkreutz.

01:02:41.280 --> 01:02:42.960
It's the hooked cross.

01:02:42.960 --> 01:02:47.680
The Germans didn't call it a swastika because that's not a German

01:02:47.680 --> 01:02:50.640
word. It may sound like it to people who don't know German,

01:02:50.640 --> 01:02:51.520
but it's not.

01:02:51.520 --> 01:02:53.680
It is the Hakenkreutz.

01:02:53.680 --> 01:02:58.640
And Hitler took it specifically from a monastery that he went to

01:02:58.640 --> 01:02:59.840
when he was a child.

01:02:59.840 --> 01:03:02.560
He saw the symbol there, he liked it, he used it as

01:03:02.560 --> 01:03:03.840
a Christian symbol.

01:03:03.840 --> 01:03:09.280
It has been used by Christians in artwork and stonework and tombs.

01:03:09.280 --> 01:03:12.560
There are many, many places in Europe where you can still see

01:03:12.560 --> 01:03:15.440
it. Because it's been around for centuries.

01:03:15.440 --> 01:03:16.640
And what it ultimately is

01:03:18.000 --> 01:03:22.000
is a well it's a cross as a symbol, but it's also

01:03:22.000 --> 01:03:25.680
from the way that the Big Dipper orbits over the course of

01:03:25.680 --> 01:03:27.520
a year.

01:03:27.520 --> 01:03:29.440
And various stars as well.

01:03:29.440 --> 01:03:34.000
But like I said before in a previous episode, it is a

01:03:34.000 --> 01:03:35.520
sign in the heavens.

01:03:35.520 --> 01:03:37.840
And Genesis is extremely clear.

01:03:37.840 --> 01:03:41.120
The stars are not just the lights in the sky, variously, but

01:03:41.120 --> 01:03:45.840
the stars specifically, aren't just for seasons to show the change of

01:03:45.840 --> 01:03:46.320
the seasons.

01:03:46.320 --> 01:03:47.680
They're also for signs.

01:03:47.680 --> 01:03:50.000
So there's nothing wrong with using that.

01:03:50.000 --> 01:03:53.120
We don't understand how all of that worked.

01:03:53.120 --> 01:03:58.800
It seems like peoples many hundreds of years ago, centuries ago, millennia

01:03:58.800 --> 01:04:02.000
ago in many cases, knew more about that than we do.

01:04:02.000 --> 01:04:04.880
Certainly the wise men who visited Christ figured it out from looking

01:04:04.880 --> 01:04:05.840
at the stars.

01:04:05.840 --> 01:04:08.320
I don't think we could do that today.

01:04:08.320 --> 01:04:11.920
So God put things there we don't fully understand.

01:04:11.920 --> 01:04:14.400
There's nothing wrong with using those symbols.

01:04:14.400 --> 01:04:18.160
I have no problem even repurposing symbols that, you know, the pagans

01:04:18.160 --> 01:04:19.920
love. There's nothing wrong with that.

01:04:19.920 --> 01:04:24.720
Many of these symbols trace back to some misty Christian connection back

01:04:24.720 --> 01:04:28.720
in time where we've lost the fullness of that because of playing

01:04:28.720 --> 01:04:30.640
telephone for hundreds of years.

01:04:30.640 --> 01:04:32.080
But it's still there.

01:04:32.080 --> 01:04:34.400
And in this case, it's even more obvious because it's literally a

01:04:34.960 --> 01:04:39.760
cross. We use many different crosses across the world, we don't all

01:04:39.760 --> 01:04:41.120
use the same one.

01:04:41.120 --> 01:04:45.600
The Eastern Christians use a different cross, Western Christians use a different

01:04:45.600 --> 01:04:48.800
cross. Even within the West we use various different crosses.

01:04:48.800 --> 01:04:51.760
The English have ones they prefer, the Celts have ones they prefer,

01:04:51.760 --> 01:04:53.600
the Germans have ones they prefer.

01:04:53.600 --> 01:04:57.600
There's nothing wrong with the symbols being different across various people groups.

01:04:57.600 --> 01:05:02.720
Another part of how you express Christianity within your racial context.

01:05:02.720 --> 01:05:03.680
That's appropriate.

01:05:03.680 --> 01:05:05.920
That's how it should be.

01:05:05.920 --> 01:05:09.360
But I think I will probably follow up on this at some

01:05:09.360 --> 01:05:12.000
point in the future, but I hope that that's sort of a

01:05:12.000 --> 01:05:14.000
beginning place at least.

01:05:14.000 --> 01:05:16.800
But the practical answer, just to reiterate it, is if you are

01:05:16.800 --> 01:05:20.160
dealing with baby boomers or you are dealing with elders at your

01:05:20.160 --> 01:05:23.920
church who are of that generation, don't do it.

01:05:23.920 --> 01:05:26.080
It's probably not worth it.

01:05:26.080 --> 01:05:30.400
If you are the sort of cantankerous person, so probably a German,

01:05:30.400 --> 01:05:33.600
if you are inclined to do that, then maybe Scottish.

01:05:33.600 --> 01:05:36.720
If that is your personal inclination, then go ahead.

01:05:36.720 --> 01:05:39.760
I'm not going to tell you to stop, because it's not wrong

01:05:39.760 --> 01:05:41.120
for you to do that.

01:05:41.120 --> 01:05:44.640
It is a matter of wisdom, it's a matter of personal conscience,

01:05:44.640 --> 01:05:47.200
but I just want to be very clear that you're probably not

01:05:47.200 --> 01:05:48.240
going to get anywhere.

01:05:48.240 --> 01:05:50.160
They will probably kick you out of the church and they may

01:05:50.160 --> 01:05:56.000
call the police That is the reality.

01:05:56.000 --> 01:05:59.200
But to move on to the next question, I don't know through

01:05:59.200 --> 01:06:01.680
how many I will get tonight since we've had a couple that

01:06:01.680 --> 01:06:04.880
were a little bit longer than average.

01:06:05.760 --> 01:06:06.800
Question three.

01:06:06.800 --> 01:06:09.360
Ah, yes, this one is shorter.

01:06:09.760 --> 01:06:13.840
I recently spoke with a friend about circumcision and whether it is

01:06:13.840 --> 01:06:15.040
permissible for Christians.

01:06:15.040 --> 01:06:17.040
He directed me to Genesis 34.

01:06:17.040 --> 01:06:19.760
This one is an important one to bring up, which tells of

01:06:19.760 --> 01:06:23.440
the violation of Dina, we won't get into that narrative, but the

01:06:23.440 --> 01:06:26.800
Sister of Simon and Levi, by Shechem the Canaanite.

01:06:26.800 --> 01:06:31.040
My friend suggested that this passage is evidence that circumcision, even in

01:06:31.040 --> 01:06:34.320
the time of the Israelites, required a lengthy recovery.

01:06:34.320 --> 01:06:38.480
Can we infer that Simon and Levi deceived Shechem into believing that

01:06:38.480 --> 01:06:42.880
circumcision involved removing the entire foreskin, rather than only the tip, or

01:06:42.880 --> 01:06:46.320
a cut, depending on which procedure, for the purpose of being able

01:06:46.320 --> 01:06:50.880
to easily kill Shechem and his men as retribution for Shechem violating

01:06:50.880 --> 01:06:56.400
Dinah. So we should pull that up to actually look at the

01:06:56.400 --> 01:06:57.360
text.

01:07:02.000 --> 01:07:02.320
So

01:07:08.720 --> 01:07:13.120
that's going to be starting verse 13, I think it is.

01:07:14.960 --> 01:07:17.040
No, it's later than that.

01:07:18.720 --> 01:07:20.640
Okay, verse 25.

01:07:20.640 --> 01:07:24.080
Obviously, I hope everyone knows the story of this.

01:07:24.080 --> 01:07:27.600
They convince these men of a different tribe to be circumcised so

01:07:27.600 --> 01:07:32.560
that they can marry into their tribe and intermarry and etc.

01:07:32.560 --> 01:07:35.040
Now it came about on the third day when they were in

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pain, so note the day, that the two sons of Jacob, Simon

01:07:38.640 --> 01:07:42.160
and Levi, Dina's brothers, took each one his dagger and entered into

01:07:42.160 --> 01:07:45.200
the city safely, and killed every male, and so on and so

01:07:45.200 --> 01:07:49.200
forth. The important part here is obviously three days.

01:07:49.200 --> 01:07:51.200
And that's when they were in pain.

01:07:51.200 --> 01:07:57.440
Incidentally, you also have a similar, roughly similar length of time when

01:07:57.760 --> 01:08:02.160
Joshua has to have Israel circumcised after coming out of the wandering

01:08:02.160 --> 01:08:04.720
in the wilderness, as I'd mentioned previously.

01:08:04.720 --> 01:08:06.320
But three days here, right?

01:08:06.320 --> 01:08:10.080
That sounds like maybe sounds like a long recovery.

01:08:10.080 --> 01:08:12.320
It doesn't to my mind, but maybe for some people it does.

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And so they're going to bring this up.

01:08:14.400 --> 01:08:15.200
I'll get into

01:08:16.560 --> 01:08:23.600
specifically why this is not modern circumcision, but I want to start

01:08:23.600 --> 01:08:27.520
by pointing out you've probably injured almost everyone listening to this, right?

01:08:27.520 --> 01:08:30.560
You've probably injured yourself in some way that took longer than three

01:08:30.560 --> 01:08:31.600
days to heal.

01:08:31.600 --> 01:08:35.120
A scratch takes about a week to heal, depending on a number

01:08:35.120 --> 01:08:38.000
of factors, you know, how old you are, your immune system, things

01:08:38.000 --> 01:08:39.040
like that.

01:08:39.040 --> 01:08:44.640
Small cuts, even small cuts, can take a week or two to

01:08:44.640 --> 01:08:49.280
heal. Cutting off any portion of your foreskin is going to take

01:08:49.280 --> 01:08:51.280
a while to heal.

01:08:51.280 --> 01:08:54.720
Even if it's a small portion, cutting off the entirety of your

01:08:54.720 --> 01:08:58.240
foreskin is going to take a long while to heal.

01:08:58.240 --> 01:09:03.040
And I think every man in the audience listening knows cutting something

01:09:03.040 --> 01:09:07.920
there is probably going to cause a lot of pain, regardless of

01:09:07.920 --> 01:09:08.560
how little

01:09:09.440 --> 01:09:12.320
flesh you remove, right?

01:09:12.320 --> 01:09:15.600
So they're in pain on the third day because the third day

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is about when you feel some of the worst pain pain from

01:09:19.120 --> 01:09:22.640
surgery. That's when you have sort of the active healing process and

01:09:22.640 --> 01:09:25.040
the bruising and the swelling and all that stuff.

01:09:25.040 --> 01:09:27.280
It's when a lot of the bad pain is you don't really

01:09:27.280 --> 01:09:29.040
want to move or do anything.

01:09:29.040 --> 01:09:31.200
That's why they waited for the third day because it was the

01:09:31.200 --> 01:09:33.200
easiest day to kill these men.

01:09:33.200 --> 01:09:35.760
We can get into that another time.

01:09:35.760 --> 01:09:39.440
Three days is nothing for recovery.

01:09:39.440 --> 01:09:42.240
For and part of how we know this and getting into the

01:09:42.240 --> 01:09:45.360
actual answer here, the substantive part is Part as it were.

01:09:45.360 --> 01:09:50.880
We know how long it takes to recover from male adult circumcision

01:09:51.200 --> 01:09:53.600
because the procedure is performed.

01:09:53.600 --> 01:09:56.000
It takes three weeks.

01:09:56.000 --> 01:09:59.920
If you go and don't do Don't do this, but if you

01:09:59.920 --> 01:10:03.360
were to go and have your foreskin removed, it would take you

01:10:03.360 --> 01:10:07.040
three weeks to recover as an adult male.

01:10:07.040 --> 01:10:10.080
And they actually tell you don't move.

01:10:10.080 --> 01:10:13.520
Like if you can at all avoid it, don't move for the

01:10:13.520 --> 01:10:14.960
first three days.

01:10:14.960 --> 01:10:16.560
Just do nothing.

01:10:16.560 --> 01:10:18.880
For the first week, don't lift anything.

01:10:18.880 --> 01:10:20.880
Don't do anything strenuous.

01:10:20.880 --> 01:10:25.440
Basically just kinda sleep or sit on the couch and and don't

01:10:25.440 --> 01:10:29.520
wear, you know, binding clothing, no abrasion, no friction, nothing.

01:10:29.520 --> 01:10:32.800
Like the list of what they tell you basically not to do

01:10:32.960 --> 01:10:34.160
is rather long.

01:10:34.160 --> 01:10:38.640
But it's a two week minimum and more like three week recovery.

01:10:38.640 --> 01:10:43.920
So So if this is three days and they're in pain, this

01:10:43.920 --> 01:10:49.120
is not saying that it is the modern version of circumcision.

01:10:49.120 --> 01:10:51.520
That would be a totally different thing, and I do not think

01:10:51.520 --> 01:10:55.200
these men would have been quite so eager to participate in that

01:10:55.200 --> 01:10:57.120
particular ritual.

01:10:57.120 --> 01:11:01.440
And even then, it would have been a difficult thing to perform,

01:11:01.440 --> 01:11:05.040
given the sort of tools they had on hand at this time,

01:11:05.040 --> 01:11:07.760
they didn't have surgical steel.

01:11:07.760 --> 01:11:11.200
They didn't have obsidian blades or whatever.

01:11:11.200 --> 01:11:14.320
They didn't have the sort of tools that we have today.

01:11:14.320 --> 01:11:17.920
That would have been quite the procedure to perform on a man

01:11:18.000 --> 01:11:21.520
giving the sort of tools they had at that time.

01:11:21.520 --> 01:11:25.280
So no, the it's worth bringing up, it's important to recognize that

01:11:25.280 --> 01:11:29.280
it is related, but it does not make the argument for the

01:11:29.280 --> 01:11:31.040
modern procedure in any way.

01:11:31.040 --> 01:11:34.800
In fact, I think it is very clearly an argument for what

01:11:34.800 --> 01:11:38.800
I am others have contended is the original version in scripture, which

01:11:38.800 --> 01:11:42.640
is just a cut in or a removal of the sort of

01:11:42.640 --> 01:11:46.480
tip of the foreskin, as opposed to a total removal, which again

01:11:46.720 --> 01:11:50.720
would have been a much longer recovery, and probably something those men

01:11:50.720 --> 01:11:53.600
would not have wanted to do.

01:11:53.600 --> 01:11:59.600
The The next question For someone Question four for someone who just

01:11:59.600 --> 01:12:04.560
converted to Lutheranism but only churches around him are either Baptist or

01:12:04.560 --> 01:12:09.600
Catholic, which would you recommend?

01:12:09.600 --> 01:12:12.320
So the recommendation is going to have to be you go to

01:12:12.320 --> 01:12:13.760
the Baptist Church.

01:12:13.760 --> 01:12:17.280
And the reason for that is that in the Lutheran Confessions the

01:12:17.280 --> 01:12:22.240
Roman Catholic Mass is called an abomination And so Lutherans cannot in

01:12:22.240 --> 01:12:26.560
good conscience participate in the Roman Catholic Mass.

01:12:26.560 --> 01:12:30.560
You can go to the Baptist service, they are going to teach

01:12:30.560 --> 01:12:33.040
things with which you disagree, you are going to have

01:12:34.160 --> 01:12:38.400
Some staunch disagreements with them, particularly with regard to the sacraments.

01:12:38.400 --> 01:12:38.720
So

01:12:39.920 --> 01:12:42.320
you're not going to get baptized there, right?

01:12:42.320 --> 01:12:44.160
And even if you did, it would be a valid baptism.

01:12:44.160 --> 01:12:45.760
Baptist baptisms are valid.

01:12:45.760 --> 01:12:48.160
We just wish they would also baptize children.

01:12:48.720 --> 01:12:49.680
If they

01:12:50.560 --> 01:12:54.800
are doing the Lord's Supper, which they do very seldom, but if

01:12:54.800 --> 01:12:58.720
they are doing that, then maybe just leave the room briefly.

01:12:58.720 --> 01:13:02.880
Because obviously their conception of that we would consider we would consider

01:13:02.880 --> 01:13:06.240
to be highly irreverent to say the least.

01:13:06.240 --> 01:13:09.360
But other than that, you can have fellowship with them.

01:13:09.360 --> 01:13:12.720
They're still Christians, they're just Christian brothers in error.

01:13:12.720 --> 01:13:16.560
But you are going to have fewer objections with regard to your

01:13:17.120 --> 01:13:21.840
conscience at the Baptist Church than at the Roman Catholic Church.

01:13:21.840 --> 01:13:26.160
Even though for many outside of these things, the High Church Lutherans

01:13:26.160 --> 01:13:28.400
and the Roman Catholics look similar.

01:13:28.400 --> 01:13:33.120
The theology is sufficiently different that, yes, the Book of Concord calls

01:13:33.120 --> 01:13:36.880
the Roman Catholic Mass an abomination, and so again, no, you cannot

01:13:36.880 --> 01:13:40.800
participate in that in good conscience, so the Baptist Church is the

01:13:40.800 --> 01:13:45.120
option. Question five

01:13:46.160 --> 01:13:49.680
Will Germany return to Christendom?

01:13:49.680 --> 01:13:52.560
I am a native German who in the last three years got

01:13:52.560 --> 01:13:54.720
enlightened of the truth about the world wars.

01:13:54.720 --> 01:13:57.600
Ever since I have developed great grief over what was done to

01:13:57.600 --> 01:13:58.800
my nation.

01:13:58.800 --> 01:14:01.280
Christianity was bombed out of us.

01:14:01.280 --> 01:14:06.080
I have great sorrow and unceasing anguish over my kinsmen.

01:14:06.080 --> 01:14:08.160
So three sub questions.

01:14:08.160 --> 01:14:10.800
One, do you think there is hope for Germany to return to

01:14:10.800 --> 01:14:13.280
Christianity? I'll just take them as I read them, I think.

01:14:13.280 --> 01:14:13.760
I do.

01:14:13.760 --> 01:14:15.120
I do think there is.

01:14:15.200 --> 01:14:18.880
The foundation to some degree is still there, the history is still

01:14:18.880 --> 01:14:20.640
there, all of those connections.

01:14:20.640 --> 01:14:24.800
Martin Luther is the one who reformed the church, the reformer, the

01:14:24.800 --> 01:14:26.960
teacher of the church.

01:14:26.960 --> 01:14:30.480
So I do think that there is that potential and I hope

01:14:30.480 --> 01:14:32.400
that it does happen.

01:14:32.400 --> 01:14:34.400
A lot of things are up in the air for all of

01:14:34.400 --> 01:14:35.680
us these days.

01:14:35.680 --> 01:14:40.480
So Germany is not alone in being in a particularly bad position.

01:14:40.480 --> 01:14:44.320
The US, we certainly have our own problems over here and every

01:14:44.320 --> 01:14:46.000
other European nation.

01:14:46.000 --> 01:14:48.160
But we are all in this together.

01:14:48.160 --> 01:14:50.960
I guess this sort of touches on sub question three here, but

01:14:50.960 --> 01:14:53.280
we're all in this together.

01:14:53.280 --> 01:14:57.760
We should want every single western nation to become Christian, we shouldn't

01:14:57.680 --> 01:15:00.720
be concerned about ourselves only, we should also be concerned about our

01:15:00.720 --> 01:15:05.040
brothers, because they are our brothers, and you have a higher duty

01:15:05.040 --> 01:15:07.200
to those who are closer to you.

01:15:07.200 --> 01:15:11.520
And like I have mentioned many times before, the American nation, yes,

01:15:11.520 --> 01:15:16.000
there's some admixture from some other European peoples more recently, but we

01:15:16.000 --> 01:15:18.480
are an English, Scottish, and German nation.

01:15:18.480 --> 01:15:21.040
That is essentially what we are, and so the Germans are very

01:15:21.040 --> 01:15:25.680
much our brothers Question two here Do God's promises that He made

01:15:25.680 --> 01:15:29.040
in the Old Testament apply to all Christian nations that if they

01:15:29.040 --> 01:15:32.400
become wayward he will discipline them until they return?

01:15:32.720 --> 01:15:34.720
Yes, in essence they do.

01:15:34.720 --> 01:15:42.960
God deals with people very similarly down through the centuries across time.

01:15:42.960 --> 01:15:47.200
There is a point when a nation becomes so wicked and so

01:15:47.200 --> 01:15:52.160
apostate where God draws a line and stops chastising them so that

01:15:52.160 --> 01:15:56.320
they return and switches to destroying them for their evil.

01:15:56.320 --> 01:15:59.200
We see that with the Canaanites, we see that with some others

01:15:59.200 --> 01:16:02.880
down through history, the Assyrians, the Babylonians.

01:16:03.520 --> 01:16:06.480
Most of those cases not entirely wiped out, but some of them

01:16:06.480 --> 01:16:08.880
simply wiped off the face of the earth.

01:16:08.880 --> 01:16:11.760
The Indians have to be close at this point.

01:16:11.760 --> 01:16:14.320
I don't think that the European nations are there.

01:16:14.320 --> 01:16:17.200
I don't think that the European nations are anywhere near

01:16:18.080 --> 01:16:22.000
that level of wickedness and impenitence at this point.

01:16:22.000 --> 01:16:25.360
You can think of God saying that it's going to take four

01:16:25.360 --> 01:16:29.280
hundred years, right, for the wickedness of the Amorites to be complete.

01:16:29.280 --> 01:16:31.040
Europe is not there.

01:16:31.040 --> 01:16:33.040
It is under a century.

01:16:33.040 --> 01:16:37.840
That's not good, that's very bad, but I don't think that our

01:16:37.840 --> 01:16:41.840
peoples anywhere in the Western world are beyond the point of repentance

01:16:42.000 --> 01:16:45.040
yet. And so I hope that we do repent as a nation.

01:16:45.120 --> 01:16:48.080
I think that things are trending in that direction.

01:16:48.080 --> 01:16:51.920
I think that many among the younger generation have recognized the lies

01:16:51.920 --> 01:16:56.560
in the past and are moving back in the direction of the

01:16:56.560 --> 01:16:59.200
church and I think that's a good I think that's the great

01:16:59.200 --> 01:17:03.280
thing. Hopefully that continues to accelerate and so I think that yes,

01:17:03.280 --> 01:17:05.760
there is hope for Germany and the rest of Europe as well

01:17:05.840 --> 01:17:08.400
and hope for America.

01:17:08.400 --> 01:17:12.240
The third sub question, any encouragement to deal with the grief.

01:17:12.240 --> 01:17:16.560
So I I sort of touched on that it's going to depend

01:17:16.560 --> 01:17:19.440
partly on personal disposition, but as a German I think I kind

01:17:19.440 --> 01:17:21.840
of understand the personal disposition.

01:17:21.840 --> 01:17:23.920
Read the book of Job.

01:17:23.920 --> 01:17:25.680
Read Ecclesiastes.

01:17:25.680 --> 01:17:28.640
I know for many men that's going to sound like insane advice

01:17:28.720 --> 01:17:32.000
because they're going to think Reading the most depressing parts of the

01:17:32.000 --> 01:17:33.360
Bible seems like the wrong response.

01:17:33.360 --> 01:17:34.880
I don't think that it is.

01:17:34.880 --> 01:17:41.280
I think that it's a recognition that God is absolutely sovereign, God

01:17:41.280 --> 01:17:44.480
is in control, He will work all things out for the good

01:17:44.560 --> 01:17:49.440
as he promises to do, and that our position in this life,

01:17:49.440 --> 01:17:53.040
as I've said many times before, is to do the duty that

01:17:53.040 --> 01:17:54.400
is set before us.

01:17:54.400 --> 01:17:57.360
Ours is the duty, God's is the outcome.

01:17:57.840 --> 01:17:59.600
He is not going to fail.

01:17:59.600 --> 01:18:02.400
He is going to succeed in everything he has set out to

01:18:02.400 --> 01:18:05.520
do. And he has made many promises to our people and he

01:18:05.520 --> 01:18:06.880
will fulfill them.

01:18:06.880 --> 01:18:11.360
So I think reading through those books is a good devotional practice

01:18:11.680 --> 01:18:14.480
and then reading the Psalms as well, there's plenty in the Psalms

01:18:14.800 --> 01:18:18.960
lamenting the state of his people and things like that.

01:18:18.960 --> 01:18:23.360
I think those are important for Christians to read these days, and

01:18:23.360 --> 01:18:26.800
particularly for those of a Germanic bent, we have that sort of

01:18:26.800 --> 01:18:30.160
psychology, that that general outlook.

01:18:30.160 --> 01:18:34.800
It's not fatalist, but it is a recognition that fate plays a

01:18:34.800 --> 01:18:39.520
role, and it's sort of hearkening back to what I went over

01:18:39.520 --> 01:18:43.840
with regard to Indians, right, and samsara and things like that.

01:18:43.840 --> 01:18:48.640
We're not looking at the world as if we're doomed because we

01:18:48.640 --> 01:18:52.400
were born a particular person in a particular time, right?

01:18:52.400 --> 01:18:57.120
We're looking at it more as we go through life as a

01:18:57.120 --> 01:19:03.120
particular person, formulated and formed in a particular way by virtue of

01:19:03.120 --> 01:19:06.960
the time into which we were born, the race, the body into

01:19:06.960 --> 01:19:09.520
which we were born, we are our body, so it's not just

01:19:09.600 --> 01:19:12.800
you know the spirit operating a meat suit, right?

01:19:13.280 --> 01:19:16.160
We very much are what we are.

01:19:16.160 --> 01:19:20.720
And so recognizing that, and I think again, as a German, it's

01:19:20.640 --> 01:19:24.320
going to come more naturally, but recognizing that's an important part of

01:19:24.320 --> 01:19:27.040
it. It's not a reason for despair.

01:19:27.040 --> 01:19:32.000
Rather it's a recognition that you have to embrace the fact that

01:19:32.000 --> 01:19:34.320
we live in a time of great challenges.

01:19:34.320 --> 01:19:38.080
The military way of saying it is usually embrace the suck.

01:19:38.080 --> 01:19:41.280
Things are going to be bad for a period of time, just

01:19:41.280 --> 01:19:43.280
embrace it and slog through it.

01:19:43.280 --> 01:19:47.440
I have an article on my site that's about the specifically the

01:19:47.440 --> 01:19:50.480
Germanic conception of fate, and I think that might also be useful

01:19:50.480 --> 01:19:50.800
for you.

01:19:50.800 --> 01:19:53.600
I'll put that in the show notes as well.

01:19:53.600 --> 01:20:02.160
Note that down.

01:20:02.160 --> 01:20:05.760
But I should also say, welcome back to the church, brother.

01:20:07.760 --> 01:20:11.680
So, question pull up the next question here.

01:20:11.680 --> 01:20:13.760
Question six.

01:20:13.760 --> 01:20:16.240
Shifting gears a little bit here.

01:20:16.240 --> 01:20:19.760
I listened to the Stone Choir episodes on race a while back,

01:20:19.760 --> 01:20:22.880
and remember you mentioning that being That being in a mixed race

01:20:22.880 --> 01:20:26.240
marriage can cause problems for the child because it can be hard

01:20:26.240 --> 01:20:28.400
to find donors for medical needs with a child.

01:20:28.400 --> 01:20:31.680
I was curious if the negative medical effects extended further.

01:20:31.680 --> 01:20:32.480
They do.

01:20:32.480 --> 01:20:36.080
Within my friend group, two of the couples are in mixed marriages,

01:20:36.080 --> 01:20:38.720
where the male is white and the female is fifty percent non

01:20:38.720 --> 01:20:43.440
white. These two couples have had birth complications including miscarriage.

01:20:43.440 --> 01:20:46.720
Between their two children who were successfully born the children have had

01:20:46.800 --> 01:20:50.640
to have surgeries within months or less of giving birth.

01:20:50.640 --> 01:20:53.360
All the couples in my friend group who are not mixed race

01:20:53.440 --> 01:20:57.600
have had their pregnancies go smoothly, with practically no complications.

01:20:57.760 --> 01:21:01.200
A simple Google search on the subject says that mixed-race couples decrease

01:21:01.200 --> 01:21:03.120
the chances for health complications.

01:21:03.120 --> 01:21:06.320
That is simply an outright lie, but it is very much what

01:21:06.320 --> 01:21:07.920
is being astroturfed.

01:21:07.920 --> 01:21:10.720
Because it decreases the chance for stuff like sickle cell.

01:21:10.720 --> 01:21:13.920
If you're European, you're not going to get that, so in other

01:21:13.920 --> 01:21:17.360
words, Google says it's good because it helps non-white people.

01:21:17.360 --> 01:21:20.720
For blacks that is somewhat true for sickle cell, which if you

01:21:20.720 --> 01:21:23.040
don't ever get malaria.

01:21:23.040 --> 01:21:26.240
I figured if there was a truth on this subject it would

01:21:26.240 --> 01:21:28.960
be buried under years of fake or biased research to promote the

01:21:28.960 --> 01:21:30.320
mixing of races.

01:21:30.320 --> 01:21:33.680
So the question does mixing races increase the chances of health complications

01:21:33.680 --> 01:21:34.320
in the child?

01:21:34.320 --> 01:21:36.240
The answer is yes.

01:21:36.240 --> 01:21:40.800
It increases the risk of health problems not only for the child,

01:21:40.800 --> 01:21:42.880
but actually to some degree for the parents as well.

01:21:42.880 --> 01:21:45.440
There's some incompatibility issues.

01:21:45.440 --> 01:21:51.120
The issues there are less dire than for the child, certainly, but

01:21:51.120 --> 01:21:58.160
with regard to complications surrounding pregnancy, significantly more for mixed race couples,

01:21:58.160 --> 01:22:01.680
and it does scale with the distance of the races.

01:22:01.680 --> 01:22:07.440
So white and black much worse than someone you know closer.

01:22:07.440 --> 01:22:12.080
Right. One of the things is that there are actually morphological differences

01:22:12.080 --> 01:22:13.280
among the races as well.

01:22:13.280 --> 01:22:16.000
Obvious we know that just from looking at the races, and that

01:22:16.000 --> 01:22:20.160
can lead to complications with regard to the birth itself.

01:22:20.160 --> 01:22:23.840
It is more likely that you are going to have a dangerous

01:22:23.840 --> 01:22:27.520
complication during the birth, including endangering the life of the mother in

01:22:27.520 --> 01:22:32.240
a mixed race marriage versus one that is within a race.

01:22:32.240 --> 01:22:36.160
So yes, that is very much a concern and it extends all

01:22:36.160 --> 01:22:37.360
over the place.

01:22:37.360 --> 01:22:40.480
The example that I often bring up is the example of, you

01:22:40.480 --> 01:22:43.280
know, donations and things like that, just because it tends to drive

01:22:43.280 --> 01:22:44.800
it home for people.

01:22:44.800 --> 01:22:48.160
And it is more difficult to explain to people and get them

01:22:48.160 --> 01:22:51.840
to accept the fact that you also have these problems, like miscarriage

01:22:51.840 --> 01:22:54.560
and things like that, but it is very much part of it.

01:22:54.560 --> 01:22:59.280
And And you can logically even just draw that out if you

01:22:59.280 --> 01:23:01.360
know where fertility peaks, right?

01:23:01.360 --> 01:23:04.560
Second or third cousins is where fertility peaks.

01:23:04.560 --> 01:23:08.000
Sometimes as far as fourth cousins, but it's it's right around third

01:23:08.000 --> 01:23:09.840
cousins is where it peaks.

01:23:09.840 --> 01:23:14.800
So you're going to have fertility issues outside of that window.

01:23:14.800 --> 01:23:18.080
Some of those are going to be things that can increase the

01:23:18.080 --> 01:23:26.880
odds of miscarriage and other complications like that.

01:23:27.040 --> 01:23:30.720
Question seven.

01:23:30.720 --> 01:23:33.840
I have been rereading through the Old Testament and have noticed that

01:23:33.840 --> 01:23:37.040
the Notice that the legal system that God gave the Hebrews is

01:23:37.040 --> 01:23:40.880
rather simple in comparison to what we have in the 21st century.

01:23:40.880 --> 01:23:42.480
That is an understatement.

01:23:42.480 --> 01:23:45.440
My question is: how did we get to the system we have

01:23:45.440 --> 01:23:48.160
today, and is there a reasonable way to fix it?

01:23:48.240 --> 01:23:52.400
Looking over the past several decades of my own recollection, there are

01:23:52.400 --> 01:23:56.080
myriad cases that seem to be open and shut cases of particularly

01:23:56.080 --> 01:23:58.880
violent crime that seem to take years to litigate.

01:23:58.880 --> 01:24:02.480
While the system that Moses received might take weeks, I believe that

01:24:02.560 --> 01:24:06.080
our system is perverting justice for all parties, whether that is letting

01:24:06.080 --> 01:24:10.000
obvious violent criminals go while waiting for trial or leaving men on

01:24:10.000 --> 01:24:13.440
death row till they die of old age.

01:24:14.480 --> 01:24:21.520
Our legal system right now is wicked and inefficient and unjust and

01:24:21.520 --> 01:24:24.880
any number of other things you'd like to call it.

01:24:24.880 --> 01:24:28.080
That is a complicated thing.

01:24:28.080 --> 01:24:33.200
It is due to many factors over a long period of time.

01:24:33.200 --> 01:24:36.640
The most concrete and easiest step is simply to remove all of

01:24:36.640 --> 01:24:38.560
the Jews from the process.

01:24:38.800 --> 01:24:41.280
They should not be lawyers, they should not be judges.

01:24:41.280 --> 01:24:45.120
We can go back to the 28 points and the 25 points

01:24:45.280 --> 01:24:48.080
and basically pull out exactly what they say.

01:24:48.080 --> 01:24:50.080
They were right.

01:24:50.080 --> 01:24:53.040
You see the corruption in our system because you have all of

01:24:53.520 --> 01:24:58.880
these people who are maliciously advocating for creating corruption and chaos in

01:24:58.880 --> 01:25:01.120
our system and letting the wicked go free.

01:25:01.120 --> 01:25:06.400
Their desire is to pervert and subvert justice because they are evil.

01:25:06.400 --> 01:25:12.480
So simplifying our system simplifying isn't so much the goal as just

01:25:12.480 --> 01:25:16.720
making it just, making it achieve the ends it should.

01:25:16.720 --> 01:25:18.960
No, you shouldn't have endless appeals for

01:25:20.000 --> 01:25:20.880
very clear things.

01:25:20.880 --> 01:25:24.160
You know, if you have these days it can't be video evidence

01:25:24.160 --> 01:25:30.800
anymore, but if you have incontrovertible evidence that someone committed a homicide

01:25:31.520 --> 01:25:33.280
For some heinous reason, right?

01:25:33.280 --> 01:25:37.440
There's no it's not justifiable homicide, it's just outright murder.

01:25:37.600 --> 01:25:40.880
He should not be getting a bunch of different appeals that take

01:25:40.880 --> 01:25:45.200
years. He should get what I have said, I've actually addressed this

01:25:45.200 --> 01:25:47.680
issue before, I don't remember exactly when.

01:25:47.680 --> 01:25:50.240
It's been a number of years now, but I think the way

01:25:50.240 --> 01:25:54.480
that it should work for capital cases, because I think that you

01:25:54.480 --> 01:25:58.400
should have some differences in your system depending on the type of

01:25:58.400 --> 01:26:03.360
case. I think that our adversarial system has some problems versus inquisitorial,

01:26:03.360 --> 01:26:07.360
but that starts to get into legal theory and things like that.

01:26:07.600 --> 01:26:10.000
What we should do for a capital case, is you should get

01:26:10.000 --> 01:26:10.800
your trial.

01:26:10.800 --> 01:26:12.560
I think the trial is fine.

01:26:12.560 --> 01:26:14.800
You know, you can have some differences with regard to how you

01:26:14.800 --> 01:26:17.280
structure it with the jury and things like that, but you have

01:26:17.280 --> 01:26:20.960
the trial, and I think it should be an automatic and immediate

01:26:20.960 --> 01:26:25.680
appeal to a specialized body that reviews capital cases.

01:26:25.680 --> 01:26:26.720
That's what they do.

01:26:26.720 --> 01:26:29.840
They're experts in it, they're experts in the law, the forensics, all

01:26:29.840 --> 01:26:31.280
that. They review it.

01:26:31.280 --> 01:26:35.440
If they sign off on it, conduct the execution as quickly as

01:26:35.440 --> 01:26:37.200
possible and just be done with it.

01:26:37.200 --> 01:26:38.880
Instead of taking years.

01:26:38.880 --> 01:26:41.760
Then you know it takes it might take six months or something.

01:26:41.760 --> 01:26:42.400
That's fine.

01:26:42.400 --> 01:26:45.600
You should still want to achieve justice even if it is somewhat

01:26:45.600 --> 01:26:48.800
delayed because you have to do these things.

01:26:48.800 --> 01:26:53.280
The system back then was easier for a number of reasons.

01:26:53.280 --> 01:26:56.400
They didn't have access to the kinds of forensic evidence we do,

01:26:56.400 --> 01:26:58.880
and so it was either you had a witness or you didn't

01:26:58.800 --> 01:27:00.000
have a witness.

01:27:00.000 --> 01:27:03.600
So there are things that are more complicated that we have to

01:27:03.600 --> 01:27:06.480
do these days that do take more time, but yes, our system

01:27:06.480 --> 01:27:09.840
is deliberately a mess.

01:27:09.840 --> 01:27:13.040
And part of fixing it is removing the wicked people from the

01:27:13.040 --> 01:27:16.400
various roles they're currently holding.

01:27:16.400 --> 01:27:20.480
And also yes, streamlining it as it were instead of letting it

01:27:20.480 --> 01:27:26.480
drag on forever, which it should not.

01:27:26.480 --> 01:27:30.480
And bringing back public capital punishment also discourages crime and is a

01:27:30.480 --> 01:27:31.440
good idea.

01:27:31.440 --> 01:27:37.520
On a tangentially related note.

01:27:37.600 --> 01:27:44.160
Question eight, and I think I will probably probably call it after

01:27:44.160 --> 01:27:46.000
this question.

01:27:46.000 --> 01:27:48.320
I wanted to get to question ten, but I think I will

01:27:48.320 --> 01:27:51.520
save it for next time.

01:27:51.520 --> 01:27:51.840
So

01:27:53.680 --> 01:27:58.080
a question that is related to some things that have been coming

01:27:58.080 --> 01:28:01.280
up on social media recently.

01:28:01.440 --> 01:28:04.720
Quibono is Latin for to whom is the benefit, correct?

01:28:04.720 --> 01:28:07.760
And I think this phrase is applicable to the moon landings.

01:28:07.760 --> 01:28:12.960
Assuming arguendo, the moon landings did actually happen, I believe they did.

01:28:12.960 --> 01:28:16.000
That's him saying I believe they did I also believe they did,

01:28:16.000 --> 01:28:20.320
but what is the benefit to our people of policing or berating

01:28:20.320 --> 01:28:22.640
those who question their veracity?

01:28:22.640 --> 01:28:25.600
When even the men who contributed to the moon landing at least

01:28:25.600 --> 01:28:28.880
gave the appearance that the moon landing was human progress.

01:28:28.880 --> 01:28:33.200
For example, Neil Armstrong won Leap for Mankind.

01:28:33.200 --> 01:28:36.240
I am failing to see how not believing in the moon landings

01:28:36.240 --> 01:28:38.160
is somehow denigrating white people.

01:28:38.160 --> 01:28:41.120
It's clear that Jews have exploited the moon landings to get whites

01:28:41.120 --> 01:28:43.360
to believe that Africans could land on the moon.

01:28:43.360 --> 01:28:46.320
So why is it beyond the realm of possibility that Jews fake

01:28:46.320 --> 01:28:48.960
the moon landings for expressly this purpose?

01:28:48.960 --> 01:28:51.760
I'm not saying I believe this, but I can see why many

01:28:51.760 --> 01:28:53.680
people in our circles do.

01:28:53.680 --> 01:28:56.800
One minor concern I do have about the moon landings is that

01:28:56.800 --> 01:29:00.640
if they actually did occur, why is it that moon tourism has

01:29:00.640 --> 01:29:05.280
not yet been monetized if you have time, etc.

01:29:05.280 --> 01:29:06.720
So two questions.

01:29:06.720 --> 01:29:08.480
The first question

01:29:09.360 --> 01:29:15.040
really is kind of a compound question there.

01:29:15.040 --> 01:29:19.840
It is denigrating whites to say the moon landing didn't happen because

01:29:19.840 --> 01:29:24.400
it is trivializing and denying basically when Basically, one of the greatest

01:29:24.400 --> 01:29:27.040
technological feats we have ever achieved.

01:29:27.040 --> 01:29:31.760
And quite frankly, the greatest technological cheat feat we ever achieved, given

01:29:31.760 --> 01:29:33.680
the time and the technology.

01:29:33.680 --> 01:29:37.600
And of course, one of the reasons is because it's specifically attacking

01:29:37.680 --> 01:29:37.920
drivers.

01:29:38.800 --> 01:29:43.520
The Jews hate Germans more than anyone else, other than obviously Christ.

01:29:43.520 --> 01:29:47.840
And so it's attacking Germans because who built the rockets?

01:29:47.840 --> 01:29:51.840
Who designed the rockets that took Americans to the Moon?

01:29:51.840 --> 01:29:55.040
Germans. Germans both designed and built them.

01:29:55.040 --> 01:29:58.240
And it was the National Socialist Scientists who did it.

01:29:58.240 --> 01:30:03.200
That is why this has been astroturfed on the right by Jews

01:30:03.200 --> 01:30:04.080
and others.

01:30:04.080 --> 01:30:06.880
This is not something that is organic, this is not something that

01:30:06.880 --> 01:30:08.080
just sprung up.

01:30:08.080 --> 01:30:13.760
This is an astroturfed conspiracy theory, and it serves two purposes.

01:30:13.760 --> 01:30:17.600
One, it is to attack whites and white achievement and white excellence.

01:30:17.600 --> 01:30:20.960
And two, it is to make people in the right seem like

01:30:20.960 --> 01:30:27.600
kooks. Seem like completely insane, untethered, unmoored from reality psychos.

01:30:27.600 --> 01:30:32.800
Because Because unlike all of the other things that we would, or

01:30:32.800 --> 01:30:36.240
we wouldn't, but others would call a conspiracy theory, right?

01:30:36.240 --> 01:30:40.560
Jewish involvement in communism in Russia and incidentally China, relating back to

01:30:40.560 --> 01:30:44.640
that first question, all of All of those sorts of things.

01:30:44.640 --> 01:30:50.240
You can prove those, and you do not have definitive proof that

01:30:50.240 --> 01:30:53.840
the person saying that it happened is wrong, right?

01:30:54.080 --> 01:30:56.560
There's a fundamental difference here, and this is something I've brought up

01:30:56.560 --> 01:30:58.560
many times times.

01:30:58.560 --> 01:31:03.120
There is a difference between having hard evidence for something and having

01:31:03.120 --> 01:31:04.720
argument for something.

01:31:04.720 --> 01:31:09.840
I'm not saying argument is false because having a logically sound argument

01:31:10.080 --> 01:31:12.000
is compelling.

01:31:12.000 --> 01:31:16.960
But for something like an historical event, that's more difficult, right?

01:31:17.440 --> 01:31:20.560
I've seen many compare it to the Holocaust, right?

01:31:20.560 --> 01:31:26.160
And I tell them, okay, right now, maybe not right now, you

01:31:26.160 --> 01:31:28.800
know, you have to go out and buy some stuff, but right

01:31:28.800 --> 01:31:33.280
now-ish, you could go out and buy the hardware to bounce a

01:31:33.280 --> 01:31:38.240
laser off the retroreflector, on the moon, and statistically prove, because you're

01:31:38.160 --> 01:31:40.240
not going to have a large enough thing to see it coming

01:31:40.240 --> 01:31:41.920
back, it's a laser.

01:31:41.920 --> 01:31:45.520
To statistically prove that it's there.

01:31:45.520 --> 01:31:48.720
A retroreflector is a man-made object.

01:31:49.200 --> 01:31:54.720
The only counterexamples for retroreflectors that occur in nature are in the

01:31:54.720 --> 01:31:56.640
eyes of things like cats.

01:31:56.640 --> 01:32:01.280
Okay, there's no giant cat on the moon standing still off of

01:32:01.440 --> 01:32:03.600
the eyes of which you can bounce a laser.

01:32:03.600 --> 01:32:05.360
It's a man-made retroreflector.

01:32:05.360 --> 01:32:06.160
We put it there.

01:32:06.160 --> 01:32:08.080
We have a picture of it on the moon with a footprint

01:32:08.080 --> 01:32:08.800
next to it.

01:32:08.800 --> 01:32:11.920
You can literally bounce a signal off of it, a laser off

01:32:11.920 --> 01:32:13.760
of it, and detect it.

01:32:13.760 --> 01:32:15.120
I've seen it done.

01:32:15.120 --> 01:32:17.360
I haven't done it because I never got into the hobby because

01:32:17.360 --> 01:32:19.200
I don't want another expensive hobby.

01:32:19.200 --> 01:32:23.440
But I've seen it done by, in this case, observatory equipment so

01:32:23.440 --> 01:32:26.880
much much more expensive equipment than I would have anyway.

01:32:26.880 --> 01:32:27.200
But

01:32:28.160 --> 01:32:32.080
doing that is different from people compared to the Holocaust and I

01:32:32.080 --> 01:32:37.680
say, okay, find a metal detector, go to Auschwitz and see what

01:32:37.680 --> 01:32:40.960
happens. Please don't do this, you will be arrested.

01:32:40.960 --> 01:32:43.440
But that's the difference.

01:32:43.440 --> 01:32:48.400
The claims of the moon landing you can investigate them as much

01:32:48.400 --> 01:32:49.360
as you like.

01:32:49.360 --> 01:32:52.240
The same as people who claim the earth is flat, right?

01:32:52.240 --> 01:32:55.840
No one is stopping you from building your own rocket.

01:32:55.840 --> 01:32:58.800
No one is stopping you from getting in a higher hot air

01:32:58.800 --> 01:33:01.760
balloon and going up high enough to see the curvature.

01:33:01.760 --> 01:33:04.880
No one is stopping you from going to the ocean and watching

01:33:04.880 --> 01:33:07.600
ships literally sail over the horizon.

01:33:07.600 --> 01:33:09.120
I used to live in Los Angeles.

01:33:09.120 --> 01:33:11.680
I've seen that happen I don't even know how many thousands upon

01:33:11.680 --> 01:33:15.040
thousand tens of thousands of times I've seen that happen.

01:33:15.360 --> 01:33:16.560
There's a difference there.

01:33:17.600 --> 01:33:23.440
You are prohibited from physically examining the evidence for the Holocaust.

01:33:23.440 --> 01:33:26.880
No one is prohibiting you from physically examining the evidence for the

01:33:26.880 --> 01:33:28.480
moon landings.

01:33:28.480 --> 01:33:32.320
It's very obvious if you look at it, the totality of the

01:33:32.320 --> 01:33:36.640
circumstances. This is something that has been astroturfed to make the right

01:33:36.960 --> 01:33:38.640
look insane.

01:33:38.640 --> 01:33:41.440
To make us look unreliable and irrational.

01:33:41.520 --> 01:33:44.000
It's one of the reasons that I object to it so strenuously.

01:33:44.000 --> 01:33:48.400
You know, if it's just some crazy guys in a bar talking

01:33:48.400 --> 01:33:50.800
to each other, I don't care.

01:33:50.800 --> 01:33:56.720
Excuse me, I mean maybe it's a little obnoxious, but whatever.

01:33:56.720 --> 01:34:01.680
When you have these people, particularly those who have a decent size

01:34:01.760 --> 01:34:06.960
audience, spreading this on the right and making the right look insane,

01:34:06.960 --> 01:34:10.560
it is unhelpful, it is detrimental, it is harmful.

01:34:10.560 --> 01:34:15.120
And quite frankly, what it does is it actually entrenches people when

01:34:15.120 --> 01:34:18.240
it comes to all the other conspiracy theories, right?

01:34:18.240 --> 01:34:22.640
So-called. If you see someone saying the moon landing wasn't real, the

01:34:22.640 --> 01:34:26.560
moon isn't real, it's a giant ball of glass that someone stuck

01:34:26.560 --> 01:34:30.640
to the firmament, whatever it is they're saying.

01:34:30.640 --> 01:34:33.600
And I've heard every crazy argument this week because none of them

01:34:33.600 --> 01:34:34.400
agree, right?

01:34:34.400 --> 01:34:36.320
Not one of them agrees with others.

01:34:36.320 --> 01:34:39.120
But if you have that guy saying it, and then he pivots

01:34:39.120 --> 01:34:43.440
and say says, Oh, by the way, the COVID nineteen vaccines, those

01:34:43.440 --> 01:34:44.240
were poison.

01:34:44.240 --> 01:34:46.240
Well, what has he just done?

01:34:46.240 --> 01:34:51.040
He's discredited any argument that might be legitimate about the safety of

01:34:51.040 --> 01:34:52.880
those vaccines, so called.

01:34:52.880 --> 01:34:56.240
And the same thing with regard to every other point.

01:34:56.240 --> 01:35:00.560
It is a deliberate campaign of subversion to make all of this

01:35:00.560 --> 01:35:03.760
other stuff get lumped into the category of the guy with a

01:35:03.760 --> 01:35:06.240
tinfoil hat.

01:35:06.240 --> 01:35:06.560
So

01:35:08.160 --> 01:35:12.160
it's also just something there's so much evidence for it, and there's

01:35:12.160 --> 01:35:14.080
no evidence against it.

01:35:14.640 --> 01:35:18.640
And the strongest one of the strongest arguments that I find particularly

01:35:18.640 --> 01:35:21.760
compelling, the Soviets never objected.

01:35:21.760 --> 01:35:23.680
They never said we didn't do it.

01:35:23.680 --> 01:35:27.120
They had every reason to say we didn't do it.

01:35:27.120 --> 01:35:29.440
They challenged everything else we did.

01:35:29.440 --> 01:35:31.840
And we challenged the stuff that they did.

01:35:31.840 --> 01:35:34.160
If they had thought for a second that it had been done

01:35:34.160 --> 01:35:37.520
in Hollywood, which incidentally they would have known because they had infiltrated

01:35:37.520 --> 01:35:39.520
Hollywood already.

01:35:39.520 --> 01:35:41.360
They meaning the Jews in this case, but

01:35:42.880 --> 01:35:46.560
they would have broadcast that to the world and said the Americans

01:35:46.560 --> 01:35:50.320
are lying, the Americans didn't do it, look at how bad the

01:35:50.320 --> 01:35:53.440
capitalist system is, we are the best, and then they would have

01:35:53.440 --> 01:35:55.040
kept trying to do it.

01:35:55.040 --> 01:35:57.920
They were not so interested in landing on the moon after we

01:35:57.920 --> 01:35:59.920
did it because it was no longer a race.

01:35:59.920 --> 01:36:02.800
It was no longer first of the moon.

01:36:02.800 --> 01:36:06.000
That is a compelling argument that we actually did it.

01:36:06.000 --> 01:36:10.320
And of course, there is the physical objective proof, the retro reflectors,

01:36:10.320 --> 01:36:15.200
right? It just doesn't make any sense to object to it, and

01:36:15.200 --> 01:36:17.440
it is harmful to do so.

01:36:17.440 --> 01:36:20.720
It is why I think it is actually important to tell these

01:36:20.720 --> 01:36:23.360
men they need to shut up.

01:36:23.360 --> 01:36:28.640
Everyone does not have a right to object to everything, particularly when

01:36:28.640 --> 01:36:30.560
he doesn't understand it.

01:36:30.560 --> 01:36:33.760
The sort of men who could not do the math to explain

01:36:33.760 --> 01:36:37.520
to you how a retro reflector works should not be trying to

01:36:37.520 --> 01:36:42.000
explain orbital mechanics to you and telling you that this is impossible

01:36:42.000 --> 01:36:43.920
because there's a big number.

01:36:43.920 --> 01:36:47.680
These are the sort of people who see the number thirty six

01:36:47.680 --> 01:36:51.040
thousand or whatever it happens to be, whichever one they happen to

01:36:51.040 --> 01:36:54.080
have latched onto, and say, Well that's not real because that number

01:36:54.080 --> 01:36:54.880
scares me.

01:36:54.880 --> 01:36:57.040
That's effectively what they're saying.

01:36:57.040 --> 01:37:00.960
I do n I have never seen any of these men objecting

01:37:00.960 --> 01:37:05.920
to it doing the necessary math to prove it is actually wrong.

01:37:05.920 --> 01:37:08.320
All they do is throw up a big number on the screen

01:37:08.400 --> 01:37:11.040
and then hope that their audience knows even less math than they

01:37:11.040 --> 01:37:13.920
do, which is often true True.

01:37:13.920 --> 01:37:16.960
That's not what we are on the right, it's not what we

01:37:16.960 --> 01:37:17.760
want to be.

01:37:17.760 --> 01:37:21.840
And again it is denigrating white achievement because we are the ones

01:37:21.840 --> 01:37:24.400
who put those men on the moon?

01:37:24.400 --> 01:37:26.240
Our race did that.

01:37:26.240 --> 01:37:29.840
It was the Germanic race that put men on the moon, and

01:37:29.840 --> 01:37:34.000
that includes America because we are a Germanic nation as well.

01:37:34.000 --> 01:37:37.120
Insofar as the second question is concerned here, and I think it'll

01:37:37.120 --> 01:37:40.080
probably be the last question for tonight, ran a little bit over,

01:37:40.080 --> 01:37:42.320
but I suppose that's fine.

01:37:42.320 --> 01:37:46.560
People can listen whenever they like, so it hasn't been monetized yet

01:37:46.640 --> 01:37:51.600
because it's actually very difficult to do and dangerous and expensive.

01:37:51.600 --> 01:37:54.560
That's really the expensive part is actually probably the biggest part of

01:37:54.560 --> 01:37:58.320
this. I just ran some very quick numbers when I saw this

01:37:58.320 --> 01:38:01.760
question, just for the the sake of it.

01:38:01.760 --> 01:38:04.720
And the companies that are looking at doing because there are companies

01:38:04.720 --> 01:38:05.920
looking at doing that, right?

01:38:05.920 --> 01:38:07.600
They're space tourism companies.

01:38:07.600 --> 01:38:10.480
It's one of the things Bezos is doing and others.

01:38:10.480 --> 01:38:14.960
They're trying to get their per seat cost down to like 100,000

01:38:14.960 --> 01:38:16.240
per person, right?

01:38:16.240 --> 01:38:18.400
Per seat cost.

01:38:18.400 --> 01:38:22.960
The current cost to do that, and for the foreseeable future, is

01:38:22.960 --> 01:38:24.400
still in the millions.

01:38:24.400 --> 01:38:26.880
And that's just to get up into space to say I've been

01:38:26.880 --> 01:38:28.640
to space and not even, you know, distant.

01:38:28.640 --> 01:38:31.360
That's near Earth orbit sort of thing.

01:38:31.440 --> 01:38:34.320
Very near Earth orbit.

01:38:34.640 --> 01:38:38.720
The companies that are trying to do moon tourism, and they're not

01:38:38.720 --> 01:38:39.600
talking about landing.

01:38:39.600 --> 01:38:43.360
They're talking about going around it, maybe, or getting out to it

01:38:43.360 --> 01:38:45.200
and looking at it and coming back.

01:38:45.200 --> 01:38:50.400
They're looking at numbers in the tens of millions per seat.

01:38:50.400 --> 01:38:54.000
That's not a very good business idea.

01:38:54.000 --> 01:38:58.320
And so that's something that this is incidentally a critique of capitalism

01:38:58.400 --> 01:39:00.880
really, but it's not a good business idea.

01:39:00.880 --> 01:39:02.880
It's one of the reasons that it has to be funded by

01:39:02.880 --> 01:39:06.880
state actors, at least originally, even today, still largely funded by state

01:39:06.880 --> 01:39:10.400
actors, because you know, Elon Musk may be doing some things.

01:39:10.400 --> 01:39:12.800
He's funded by the U.S government.

01:39:12.800 --> 01:39:16.240
He's not the one funding those rockets.

01:39:16.240 --> 01:39:18.960
So fifty million dollars, right?

01:39:18.960 --> 01:39:22.960
Say it's twenty million, you know, cut it in less than half.

01:39:22.960 --> 01:39:27.360
Twenty million dollars per seat to go up into space to get

01:39:27.360 --> 01:39:31.040
close to the moon just to say you did it.

01:39:31.040 --> 01:39:32.720
That's all it gains you, right?

01:39:32.720 --> 01:39:35.360
You know, if it's someone who likes space exploration, maybe you're funding

01:39:35.360 --> 01:39:37.120
it. The guy who wants to do that though can fund it

01:39:37.120 --> 01:39:42.800
without getting in a potentially explosive device and going there.

01:39:42.800 --> 01:39:45.440
The number of men, the percentage of men in the world, and

01:39:45.440 --> 01:39:49.120
it'd be almost exclusively men incidentally, so it's not just the gender

01:39:49.120 --> 01:39:51.520
in specific use there.

01:39:51.520 --> 01:39:57.200
Small number who have the funds to just spend twenty million dollars

01:39:57.200 --> 01:39:58.560
on a rocket ride.

01:39:59.520 --> 01:40:02.720
Now you take all of those and remove all of the men

01:40:02.720 --> 01:40:09.520
from that pool who don't have a death wish, essentially, who don't

01:40:09.440 --> 01:40:12.480
have the daredevil spirit that you need to have to be a

01:40:12.480 --> 01:40:15.040
test pilot effectively.

01:40:15.040 --> 01:40:18.240
You now have almost no men left in this pool.

01:40:18.240 --> 01:40:21.280
So I don't know what kind of tourism business you would be

01:40:21.280 --> 01:40:25.920
running, but you're targeting a very tiny pool of men, and even

01:40:26.240 --> 01:40:30.800
then, you have to get the money to build the company even

01:40:30.800 --> 01:40:32.720
to be able to target the it's just not a very good

01:40:32.720 --> 01:40:33.280
business plan.

01:40:33.280 --> 01:40:34.400
It just doesn't work.

01:40:34.400 --> 01:40:36.000
It's really what it comes down to.

01:40:36.000 --> 01:40:38.640
The economics don't make any sense.

01:40:38.640 --> 01:40:42.480
And just for the sake of comparison, I sort of roughly calculated,

01:40:42.480 --> 01:40:46.720
if you had, you know, that sort of disposable income, and you

01:40:46.720 --> 01:40:51.520
spent a million dollars, and you visited every single national park in

01:40:51.520 --> 01:40:56.000
the US system, you could spend nights at their nicest hotels, rent

01:40:56.000 --> 01:40:59.600
nice RVs, hire guides, do every single one of the cave tours

01:40:59.680 --> 01:41:02.400
and everything else, and have money left over at the end of

01:41:02.400 --> 01:41:05.680
the year and spend a tiny fraction of what you would spend

01:41:05.680 --> 01:41:09.440
to say, I got close to the moon.

01:41:09.760 --> 01:41:11.520
It just doesn't make sense.

01:41:11.520 --> 01:41:13.520
So that's why it hasn't happened.

01:41:13.520 --> 01:41:16.800
That's the sort of thing that happens after all of the hard

01:41:16.800 --> 01:41:21.920
work of the technology has already been done, developing it, testing it,

01:41:21.920 --> 01:41:26.960
making sure it's reliable over many, many uses, right?

01:41:26.960 --> 01:41:30.960
Commercial air travel did not happen right after the Wright brothers.

01:41:30.960 --> 01:41:32.800
It took a while to build.

01:41:32.800 --> 01:41:38.240
And you have to prove that it has a sufficient safety rate

01:41:38.240 --> 01:41:40.560
before people are willing to use it.

01:41:40.560 --> 01:41:43.840
Yes, you have the occasional crazy person who's willing to get in

01:41:43.840 --> 01:41:48.240
a metal tube using a PlayStation controller, and then you wind up

01:41:48.240 --> 01:41:49.760
paying a price for that.

01:41:49.760 --> 01:41:52.800
But that's a tiny percentage of men who are willing to do

01:41:52.800 --> 01:41:57.760
that. So it's just economics for the the moon tourism bit.

01:41:57.760 --> 01:41:59.680
And practically there's nothing there to see.

01:41:59.680 --> 01:42:02.240
So even if you went up there and landed on the moon

01:42:03.120 --> 01:42:05.440
I I don't know what you're doing.

01:42:05.440 --> 01:42:06.480
There's nothing there.

01:42:06.480 --> 01:42:08.720
It's dust and rocks.

01:42:08.800 --> 01:42:12.400
So that I'm sure that appeals to a number of men, right?

01:42:12.400 --> 01:42:14.720
Because you're the first in X to do it.

01:42:14.720 --> 01:42:16.640
You're one of only a handful of people.

01:42:16.640 --> 01:42:18.720
You can say, I went to the moon.

01:42:18.720 --> 01:42:20.560
That's very appealing to some.

01:42:21.600 --> 01:42:22.480
But personally, I would

01:42:23.360 --> 01:42:25.520
rather go camping.

01:42:25.520 --> 01:42:25.840
So

01:42:27.040 --> 01:42:32.240
But yeah, I think it's economics at the base there.

01:42:32.240 --> 01:42:35.280
I think that will be the last question.

01:42:35.280 --> 01:42:37.440
Perhaps an appropriate question to end with, I guess.

01:42:37.440 --> 01:42:40.320
I did want to get to the next one about kings, but

01:42:40.320 --> 01:42:44.480
I think I will save that question for next week.

01:42:44.480 --> 01:42:47.680
Some of those questions took a little longer to answer than normal,

01:42:47.680 --> 01:42:50.400
which is why I had put them off because I knew they

01:42:50.400 --> 01:42:52.240
were going to do that.

01:42:52.240 --> 01:42:56.000
But at any rate, thank you for those who submitted questions and

01:42:56.000 --> 01:42:58.000
thank you for those in the chat.

01:42:58.000 --> 01:43:00.160
I do see that we have some questions in the chat.

01:43:00.160 --> 01:43:01.440
I am going to add those

01:43:02.480 --> 01:43:03.520
for next week.

01:43:03.520 --> 01:43:05.360
Hopefully I will get to them then.

01:43:05.360 --> 01:43:06.880
My backlog isn't long now.

01:43:06.880 --> 01:43:09.040
I've got through most, but it's part of the reason I spent

01:43:09.040 --> 01:43:11.920
more time tonight to get through these.

01:43:11.920 --> 01:43:14.400
So again, thank you for submitting the questions.

01:43:14.400 --> 01:43:15.680
Thank you for listening.

01:43:15.680 --> 01:43:19.040
And I hope all of you have a blessed Good Friday.

01:43:19.040 --> 01:43:24.240
And I won't wish you happy Easter just yet because it feels

01:43:24.240 --> 01:43:27.760
kind of wrong to do it on Good Friday, but do make

01:43:27.760 --> 01:43:32.640
sure that you go to church on Sunday and have a good

01:43:32.640 --> 01:43:36.080
weekend. I will see all of you next week, hopefully Thursday, and

01:43:36.080 --> 01:43:39.120
then we will start with discussing

01:43:40.240 --> 01:43:44.480
Why you can or can't have a king, according to scripture, and

01:43:44.480 --> 01:43:47.440
with a particular verse that comes up all the time in those

01:43:47.440 --> 01:43:52.240
discussions. So I hope you all have a great weekend and God

01:43:52.240 --> 01:43:53.920
bless you until next week.