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<v Speaker 2>Welcome to the Stone Choir Podcast.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>I am Corey J.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>Mahler. And I'm Wo.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>In this episode, we will be discussing the issues of genealogy, ideas,</v>

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<v Speaker 2>the genealogy of ideas, the fourth commandment, ancestry, morality, and a number</v>

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<v Speaker 2>of related issues.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>We now live in a time when few care about the provenance,</v>

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<v Speaker 2>the source, the genealogy of the things they consume, whether it is</v>

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<v Speaker 2>physically, intellectually, or spiritually, or the things they believe.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>Is this how God wants us to operate?</v>

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<v Speaker 2>Is this how God operates?</v>

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<v Speaker 2>Now some know these things matter at least to a degree and</v>

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<v Speaker 2>in a certain way.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>There are those who will go out of their way to purchase</v>

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<v Speaker 2>heirloom seeds, to buy organic produce, to avoid soy at least in</v>

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<v Speaker 2>certain forms, to avoid high fructose corn syrup, other various things in</v>

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<v Speaker 2>their diet, who will carefully select the breed of their dog for</v>

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<v Speaker 2>certain behaviors.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>But do people actually apply this to what they believe?</v>

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<v Speaker 2>By way of example, if I handed you a picture and told</v>

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<v Speaker 2>you that it was taken by a propagandist from the USSR, would</v>

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<v Speaker 2>you believe that picture is true?</v>

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<v Speaker 2>Would you believe that it represents reality?</v>

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<v Speaker 2>Probably not, because the USSR was known for lying, doctoring photos, and</v>

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<v Speaker 2>so forth.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>Similarly, if I gave you information and said that it came from</v>

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<v Speaker 2>an avowed Marxist Marxist.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>Would you be inclined to believe or disbelieve it?</v>

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<v Speaker 2>And I don't mean just CRT, but all of the various things</v>

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<v Speaker 2>that come from particularly the Frankfurt School, you probably would be disinclined</v>

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<v Speaker 2>to believe it, and that is a good thing, but it's important</v>

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<v Speaker 2>to distinguish between, say, the unwitting and the witting Marxist, because sometimes</v>

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<v Speaker 2>the unwitting deceiver is more dangerous than the witting.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>But to move on to the actual topic of today's episode, genealogy</v>

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<v Speaker 2>and scripture.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>And actually I don't mean that because first we have to discuss</v>

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<v Speaker 2>a couple of other issues related to genealogy in scripture, because I</v>

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<v Speaker 2>want to get something out of the way that will definitely come</v>

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<v Speaker 2>up, that will be raised by adversaries, and that is the seeming</v>

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<v Speaker 2>condemnation of genealogies in Scripture.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>Now there are two core verses for this.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>There are some other verses that are related, but the two core</v>

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<v Speaker 2>ones are Titus 3.9 and 1 Timothy one four Titus three nine</v>

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<v Speaker 2>but avoid foolish controversies, genealogies, dissensions, and quarrels about the law, for</v>

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<v Speaker 2>they are unprofitable and worthless.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>And of course, first Timothy one four, the second, nor to devote</v>

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<v Speaker 2>themselves to myths and endless genealogies, which promote speculations rather than the</v>

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<v Speaker 2>stewardship from God that is by faith.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>But of course it is important always to add the context, and</v>

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<v Speaker 2>if you were actually looking at the verse you'll notice that nor</v>

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<v Speaker 2>at the beginning of first Timothy one four is lowercase.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>We've started off in the middle of a sentence.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>So I'd like to add that context back.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>Here's verse three and four.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>As I urged you when I was going to Macedonia, remain at</v>

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<v Speaker 2>Ephesus, so that you may charge certain persons not to teach any</v>

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<v Speaker 2>different doctrine, nor to devote themselves to myths and endless genealogies, which</v>

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<v Speaker 2>promote speculations rather than the stewardship from God that is by faith.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>So what is the word that we actually have in these two</v>

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<v Speaker 2>verses for genealogy?</v>

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<v Speaker 2>It is Genelogia, which is an account of ancestry, and it is</v>

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<v Speaker 2>in fact the word from which we get genealogy.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>You can probably see the two parts in there gene and logia,</v>

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<v Speaker 2>the study of genes, more or less broken down.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>And this should bring to mind another verse from the New Testament.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>It should bring to mind Matthew one one.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>And why should it bring to mind Matthew one one?</v>

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<v Speaker 2>Biblas Genesios Iesu Christu Chuiu Dawid Huiu Abraham.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>The book of the genealogy of Jesus Christ, the Son of David,</v>

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<v Speaker 2>the Son of Abraham.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>There's that same word</v>

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<v Speaker 2>Now that is gynesios, ginomai comes from, related to, to become or</v>

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<v Speaker 2>to take place.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>This should also raise, bring to mind, something else in scripture, Genesis,</v>

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<v Speaker 2>Genesis, the very beginning of Scripture.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>But before we get back into that, I want to address a</v>

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<v Speaker 2>particular word from that verse in Titus, and that is the word</v>

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<v Speaker 2>that is translated worthless</v>

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<v Speaker 2>Mato</v>

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<v Speaker 2>and that word means pertaining to being of no use, idle, empty,</v>

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<v Speaker 2>fruitless, useless, powerless, lacking truth.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>We see this in a lot of places in Scripture, but particularly</v>

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<v Speaker 2>one that it should bring to mind, and that it will bring</v>

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<v Speaker 2>to mind if you are familiar with Scripture, is Ecclesiastes.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>Now it will bring it to mind even more readily if you</v>

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<v Speaker 2>have If you happen to have read Luther's translation, and I do</v>

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<v Speaker 2>mean the German, because here is a verse from Ecclesiastes Es ist</v>

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<v Speaker 2>alles ganz eitel Sprach der Brediger Es ist alles ganz eitel and</v>

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<v Speaker 2>of course that will be familiar, even if you don't know German,</v>

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<v Speaker 2>you may understand the cadence there what is being said, because what</v>

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<v Speaker 2>is that?</v>

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<v Speaker 2>That's vanity of vanities, says the preacher.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>Vanity of vanities.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>All is vanity.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>And the word being translated, the Hebrew word is Hebel, vapor or</v>

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<v Speaker 2>breath figuratively translated here as vanity.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>Now Titus three nine in German Derrichten Fragen Abba de Grisleckish Register</v>

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<v Speaker 2>de Zankis Unstreitis Uber das Gesetz and Schlag, den Zisintunst und Idle.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>I only want you to pay attention to that last word because</v>

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<v Speaker 2>I want you to see this connection Idle</v>

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<v Speaker 2>Allist Gans Idle Idle Worthless useless vain and of course, to read</v>

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<v Speaker 2>Titus three night again in the German to remind you, but avoid</v>

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<v Speaker 2>foolish controversies, genealogies, dissensions, and quarrels about the law, for they are</v>

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<v Speaker 2>unprofitable and worthless.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>Now knowing Scripture thoroughly is vital because you will be able to</v>

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<v Speaker 2>make these sorts of connections if you have scripture in your mind.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>And so what is one of our general canons of construction of</v>

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<v Speaker 2>interpretation when it comes to scripture?</v>

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<v Speaker 2>scriptura interpreture Scripture interprets Scripture, and so let us look to Titus</v>

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<v Speaker 2>again, Titus one fourteen.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>Therefore rebuke them sharply, that they may be sound in the faith,</v>

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<v Speaker 2>not devoting themselves to Jewish myths, and the commands of people who</v>

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<v Speaker 2>turn away from the truth.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>Focus on what is being told to the recipient of the letter,</v>

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<v Speaker 2>which of course, Titus, and then us, what are we being told</v>

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<v Speaker 2>to avoid?</v>

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<v Speaker 2>Jewish myths.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>This should bring to mind Matthew three, specifically verses nine through ten.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>And do not presume to say to yourselves, We have Abraham as</v>

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<v Speaker 2>our father, for I tell you.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>is able from these stones to raise up children for Abraham.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>Even now the ax is laid to the root of the trees.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>Every tree therefore that does not bear good fruit is cut down</v>

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<v Speaker 2>and thrown into the fire.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>So what are we being told to avoid here when we're told</v>

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<v Speaker 2>to avoid genealogies and this useless speculation, these worthless things?</v>

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<v Speaker 2>We are being told to avoid what so many of the Jews</v>

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<v Speaker 2>presumed. Well of course I'm saved.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>I'm a son of Abraham.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>I'm descended from him by blood.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>Salvation belongs to us.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>That is useless genealogy.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>That is worship of your race of your ancestors.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>That is idolatry.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>That is what we are being told to avoid.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>And now let us turn back to genealogy in scripture, and particularly,</v>

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<v Speaker 2>of course, we will start with Genesis.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>So Genesis two four.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>Aute e Biblas Genesios Urranu Kaiges Hot Egenata</v>

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<v Speaker 2>These are the generations of the heavens and the earth when they</v>

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<v Speaker 2>were created.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>These are the generations of I want you to focus on that</v>

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<v Speaker 2>little bit of the text there, because that is Toledot in Hebrew,</v>

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<v Speaker 2>it occurs ten times in Genesis.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>Genesis two four, Genesis five one, Genesis six nine, Genesis ten one,</v>

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<v Speaker 2>Genesis eleven ten, Genesis eleven twenty seven, Genesis twenty five twelve, Genesis</v>

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<v Speaker 2>twenty five nineteen, Genesis thirty six one, Genesis thirty six nine, Genesis</v>

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<v Speaker 2>thirty seven two.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>Now, these are major divisions in scripture.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>The attentive reader may have noticed I actually listed eleven, but that</v>

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<v Speaker 2>is because Genesis thirty six nine is a repetition, emphasizing Genesis thirty</v>

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<v Speaker 2>six one with relation to Esau and his progeny.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>So for instance in Genesis five one, Aute, He Biblas, Genes, Anthropon,</v>

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<v Speaker 2>these are the generations</v>

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<v Speaker 2>of man</v>

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<v Speaker 2>Genesis six nine Altai de Genesis No These are the generations</v>

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<v Speaker 2>of Noah.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>Now these are both of course Hutas, that is the reference there.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>They may be a different form, it is declined, but these are</v>

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<v Speaker 2>the same statements.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>And then of course we have one of the major ones in</v>

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<v Speaker 2>Genesis, Genesis ten one Aotai de Gineses, Toan, Huun,</v>

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<v Speaker 2>Noe. These are the generations of the sons of Noah, otherwise known</v>

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<v Speaker 2>as the Table of Nations Genesis ten.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>I want to turn to Genesis Genesis</v>

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<v Speaker 2>1032, which I do not have up here, so I will pull</v>

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<v Speaker 2>that up.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>Just want to read that the English instead of the Greek.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>These are the clans of the sons of Noah.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>Note the word clans, according to their genealogies, there is that word</v>

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<v Speaker 2>again, in their nations, and from these the nations spread abroad on</v>

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<v Speaker 2>the earth after the flood.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>Of course we are dealing with Genesis again.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>That word turns up constantly, so let's do a word study of</v>

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<v Speaker 2>it very briefly.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>It appears forty times in the Old Testament.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>And</v>

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<v Speaker 2>to look here at Logos, the Word Study, the scope, it appears</v>

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<v Speaker 2>a number of times in the ESV as well, translated from the</v>

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<v Speaker 2>Greek, but the forty times in the Old Testament translating various Hebrew</v>

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<v Speaker 2>terms extended family, clan, types, descendants, successors, seed, descendants, stage in life,</v>

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<v Speaker 2>cycle, lifetime, descent, generation, descendants, relations, relatives, descent, you can see these</v>

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<v Speaker 2>are all related words, these are all the same sort of word</v>

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<v Speaker 2>family. And so we also wind up tying</v>

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<v Speaker 2>in to genos.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>That's the word for nation, people, class, or kind, a related word.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>And you're going to see also the word ethnos, which is another</v>

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<v Speaker 2>related word, which has a similar meaning.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>So let us turn to Acts seventeen, twenty six through twenty seven</v>

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<v Speaker 2>A, which is a verse that always comes up when discussing these</v>

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<v Speaker 2>issues. And he made from one man every nation of mankind to</v>

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<v Speaker 2>live on all the face of the earth, having determined allotted periods,</v>

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<v Speaker 2>and the boundaries of their dwelling place, that they should seek God,</v>

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<v Speaker 2>and perhaps feel their way toward him, and find him.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>Speaking of the nations, ethnos is the word for nation, which is</v>

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<v Speaker 2>a body of persons united by kinship culture and common traditions, or</v>

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<v Speaker 2>people groups foreign to a specific people group.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>So for instance you will see that usage when you are contrasting</v>

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<v Speaker 2>Old Testament Israel versus the nations, because the nations are foreign nations</v>

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<v Speaker 2>with regard to Israel in that reference.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>And then a third usage those who do not belong to groups</v>

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<v Speaker 2>professing faith in the god of Israel.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>We used to translate this as heathen in the Luther Bible translated</v>

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<v Speaker 2>as Haydn, the same word.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>That is a more useful translation than Gentiles, which is a carryover</v>

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<v Speaker 2>from Latin which just tends to confuse things.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>Better to use heathen.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>And so I turn back to Genesis to look at</v>

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<v Speaker 2>Genesis three.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>Now I'm going to use the uh Septuagint numbering here because quite</v>

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<v Speaker 2>frankly it's better.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>For some reason we've decided that Genesis 2025 belongs in chapter 2.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>It really is part of chapter 3.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>And the man and his wife were both naked and were not</v>

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<v Speaker 2>ashamed. Now the serpent was more crafty than any other beast of</v>

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<v Speaker 2>the field, that the Lord God had made.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>said to the woman, Did God actually say, You shall not eat</v>

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<v Speaker 2>of any tree in the garden?</v>

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<v Speaker 2>And the woman said to the serpent, We may eat of the</v>

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<v Speaker 2>fruit of the trees in the garden, but God said, You shall</v>

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<v Speaker 2>not eat of the fruit of the tree that is in the</v>

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<v Speaker 2>midst of the garden, neither shall you touch it, lest you die.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>But the serpent said to the woman, You will not surely die,</v>

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<v Speaker 2>for God knows that when you eat of it your eyes will</v>

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<v Speaker 2>be opened, and you will be like God, knowing good and evil.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>So when the woman saw that the tree was good for food,</v>

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<v Speaker 2>and that it was a delight to the eyes, and that the</v>

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<v Speaker 2>tree was to be desired to make one wise, she took of</v>

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<v Speaker 2>its fruit, and ate, and she also gave some to her husband,</v>

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<v Speaker 2>who was with her, and he ate.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>Now, here is the core of what we are discussing today when</v>

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<v Speaker 2>it comes to genealogy.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>This is the genealogy of ideas.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>Look at the ideas that are present here in the narrative of</v>

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<v Speaker 2>the fall.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>Which ideas do we have?</v>

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<v Speaker 2>Whence do they come?</v>

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<v Speaker 2>You have statements from God, you shall not eat of the fruit</v>

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<v Speaker 2>of the tree that is in the midst of the garden.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>That is a truth, it flows from God.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>That is the genealogy of that idea.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>It is traced directly back to statements God made to Adam and</v>

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<v Speaker 2>Eve. What else do we have here?</v>

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<v Speaker 2>Did God actually say?</v>

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<v Speaker 2>We have ideas from Satan, questioning whether or not God has actually</v>

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<v Speaker 2>said what he said.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>And then of course we have Satan simply lying.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>You will not surely die.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>For God knows that when you eat of it your eyes will</v>

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<v Speaker 2>be opened, and you will be like God, knowing good and evil.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>What is the genealogy of that idea, of that statement?</v>

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<v Speaker 2>The genealogy of that, of course, is Satan.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>It comes from him.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>And so, the point here, the vitally important takeaway, is that the</v>

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<v Speaker 2>genealogy of an idea matters.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>Where the idea originated</v>

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<v Speaker 2>does say something about the truth of the idea.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>This is something that pops up throughout scripture whenever there is a</v>

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<v Speaker 3>discussion of fruits and trees and branches.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>Uh you'll find this uh for example in Matthew 7, Jesus says,</v>

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<v Speaker 3>Beware of false prophets who come to you in sheep's clothing but</v>

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<v Speaker 3>inwardly are ravenous wolves, you will recognize them by their fruits, are</v>

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<v Speaker 3>grapes gathered gathered from thorn bushes or figs from thistles.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>So every healthy tree bears good fruit, but the diseased tree bears</v>

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<v Speaker 3>bad fruit.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>A healthy tree cannot bear bad fruit, nor can a diseased tree</v>

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<v Speaker 3>bear good fruit.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>Every tree that does not bear good fruit is cut down and</v>

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<v Speaker 3>thrown into the fire.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>Thus you will recognize them by their fruits.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>And again, this this is a reinforcement of the point that the</v>

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<v Speaker 3>place from which something came affects the nature of the thing.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>All of the generations of man and of beast throughout scripture are</v>

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<v Speaker 3>reinforcing that this is how God within creation made certain things by</v>

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<v Speaker 3>whence they came.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>They came down through history through the seed of men, and they</v>

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<v Speaker 3>were passed on to their sons who inherited for good or evil</v>

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<v Speaker 3>whatever the fathers bequeathed them.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>And this is something that's completely lost from from modern thought is</v>

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<v Speaker 3>the notion that there's any connection to history beyond accidents.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>We're we we live in a time where it's reinforced continuously to</v>

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<v Speaker 3>us that</v>

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<v Speaker 3>You basically just appear in the timeline when God decided to create</v>

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<v Speaker 3>you. And basically there was your mother and father conceived you through</v>

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<v Speaker 3>God's blessing, and God stuck the next soul available in the soul</v>

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<v Speaker 3>hopper into that embryo and then you became you by virtue of</v>

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<v Speaker 3>really happenstance on the creative part and then whatever God did in</v>

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<v Speaker 3>the spirit realm.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>But that's not really you.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>You're the spirit thing.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>You're the soul.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>You're not the body.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>That's completely contrary to what's actually happening.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>When God gives life to a man, the soul and the body</v>

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<v Speaker 3>in those two cells, the the ovum and the sperm, are united,</v>

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<v Speaker 3>and the three come together to become one thing, which is a</v>

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<v Speaker 3>human. And</v>

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<v Speaker 3>that has roots and it has a miraculous aspect.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>And as Christians, we we have a tr a tendency to only</v>

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<v Speaker 3>focus on the miraculous and the instantaneous in conception or in the</v>

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<v Speaker 3>conception of ideas and we don't really care where they came from.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>But that's it's never how God speaks at any point in scripture.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>there's no point where God is indifferent to whence things came.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>Um in fact there was the I mentioned it last week, there</v>

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<v Speaker 3>was the the fig tree that didn't bear fruit when Jesus came</v>

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<v Speaker 3>to it.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>And so he cursed it because it was failing to do its</v>

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<v Speaker 3>do its duty as a fig tree.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>Um, when you see a tree or you see any any creature,</v>

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<v Speaker 3>what it produces</v>

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<v Speaker 3>is flowing from its nature.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>This applies to people who are not individuals and that's something that</v>

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<v Speaker 3>we'll touch on today and we're we're definitely going to do a</v>

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<v Speaker 3>a full episode in the future about the enlightenment and individualism, but</v>

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<v Speaker 3>we're not just atomized bits of souls with flesh attached who appear</v>

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<v Speaker 3>and disappear appear from the timeline.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>We have an inheritance and we pass that on to those who</v>

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<v Speaker 3>are descended from us and to those who inherit the ideas that</v>

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<v Speaker 3>we propagate.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>And that's why it's vitally important as you mentioned and mentioned earlier.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>There are a lot of times when people propagate evil ideas that</v>

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<v Speaker 3>came from evil sources, but they are</v>

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<v Speaker 3>choosing to do something that they believe is good.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>They do it with a clean conscience.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>And in many cases they're Christians who are propagating ideas that came</v>

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<v Speaker 3>from an evil tree, but because they didn't see the evil in</v>

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<v Speaker 3>the tree, they can't discern the evil in the fruit.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>And so when they willingly pass it on to someone else, they</v>

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<v Speaker 3>do tremendous harm and they do it under the cloak of Christianity</v>

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<v Speaker 3>itself. They do it in the name of God, which is a</v>

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<v Speaker 3>tremendously evil and destructive thing because as a Christian our hackles aren't</v>

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<v Speaker 3>up when we're talking to each other.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>We're not we're not preparing to be deceived.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>It would be as if Adam had deceived Eve in the garden</v>

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<v Speaker 3>rather than the serpent.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>She should have known that the serpent was creepy, but she didn't</v>

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<v Speaker 3>because the Because there was nothing creepy.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>It was it was perfection and she didn't see it coming.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>And the the real thrust of this discussion today is around teaching</v>

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<v Speaker 3>Christians to see it coming because you don't have to simply evaluate</v>

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<v Speaker 3>the merits of an argument.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>You first and foremost have to evaluate the tree from which it</v>

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<v Speaker 3>came.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>There's a sort of general idea that ideas stand on their own,</v>

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<v Speaker 2>that we can assess something in a vacuum, we can simply look</v>

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<v Speaker 2>at it as some sort of little logic puzzle.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>But that's not how ideas work.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>That's how logic puzzles work, yes.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>If A, then B, if B then C, A, therefore C.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, that stands on its own.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>Kind of, because it does still depend on the laws of logic</v>

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<v Speaker 2>which flow from the nature of God and therefore have a good</v>

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<v Speaker 2>tree as their source and are true, but they can be assessed</v>

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<v Speaker 2>more or less in a vacuum.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>You cannot do that with ideas that are simply they're more complex</v>

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<v Speaker 2>than a simple logical statement.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>And so we cannot take a book in a vacuum and just</v>

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<v Speaker 2>look at the book, look at the content of the book, and</v>

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<v Speaker 2>assess whether or not we think it's good based on that contact.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>Because what is the source of this book?</v>

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<v Speaker 2>What is this book trying to accomplish?</v>

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<v Speaker 2>What was the person who wrote this book trying to accomplish?</v>

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<v Speaker 2>What else did he do in his life?</v>

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<v Speaker 2>We want to pretend like works are separate from the worker, and</v>

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<v Speaker 2>they're not because works flow from the worker.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>Creation is good because it is a work that flows from God.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>Sin is bad because it is a work that flows from sinners</v>

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<v Speaker 2>and from Satan.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>So the genesis, the source, truly matters.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>And so we we know that because we see it in Scripture.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>The first book is called Genesis, and yes, I know the name</v>

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<v Speaker 2>isn't technically part of the book itself, but the word appears all</v>

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<v Speaker 2>throughout the book, so it is part of the book.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>And how does the New Testament start?</v>

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<v Speaker 2>The New Testament starts with a genealogy.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>So we can't obviously take the supposed blanket prohibition on genealogies, which</v>

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<v Speaker 2>is what some people try to turn it into as an actual</v>

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<v Speaker 2>blanket prohibition on genealogies because otherwise we would have scripture condemning scripture.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>Because Matthew 1 1 is Biblas Genesios Jesus Christu Huyu Dawid Huiyu</v>

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<v Speaker 2>Abraham, the book of the genealogy of Jesus Christ, the son of</v>

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<v Speaker 2>David, the son of Abraham.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>The genealogy matters.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>God's promises have reference.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>God makes promises to individuals, to groups, to nations, to all of</v>

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<v Speaker 2>mankind depending on the particular promise.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>So the Messiah promised to Adam and Eve, the seed shall crush</v>

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<v Speaker 2>the serpent's head, the Messiah promised to come from Abraham.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>The Messiah promised to come from David.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>This is God making promises to individuals that they will have progeny,</v>

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<v Speaker 2>from which will come the eventual Messiah, to peoples, because it is</v>

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<v Speaker 2>promised to this people the Messiah will come from them, God very</v>

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<v Speaker 2>clearly cares about genealogies.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>And another way we know this is the fourth commandment.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>Thou shalt honor thy father and thy mother, that it mayest go</v>

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<v Speaker 2>well with thee, and thou mayest live long in the land.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, I know I memorized from the the KGV the older versions.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>But this is genealogy being raised up to the level of God</v>

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<v Speaker 2>cares about it so much it's one of the Ten Commandments.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>Because as we know, honor thy father and thy mother is not</v>

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<v Speaker 2>just your immediate flesh and blood, father and mother.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>It also includes your flesh and blood grandparents, your flesh and blood</v>

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<v Speaker 2>great grandparents, and if you're so lucky to meet them, your great</v>

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<v Speaker 2>great grandparents.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>But also, all those ancestors you didn't meet, because they have bequeathed</v>

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<v Speaker 2>things to you that were gifts to them from God.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>They held them in trust and gave them to you, and so</v>

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<v Speaker 2>you have duties with regard to those things not to destroy them,</v>

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<v Speaker 2>but to pass them on to future generations.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>Because God actually cares about you honoring your ancestors.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>No, it's not ancestor worship, no, it's not idolatry.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>There is a difference between worship and honoring.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, when it comes to God, we worship him in part by</v>

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<v Speaker 2>honoring him, but we're not talking about the same concept here.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>Because God obviously does not command you to idolize your father and</v>

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<v Speaker 2>mother. He does not command you to worship them, but he does</v>

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<v Speaker 2>command you to honor them</v>

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<v Speaker 3>And the that's why the the the reason that we're doing this</v>

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<v Speaker 3>episode is to to make it crystal clear to to our listeners</v>

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<v Speaker 3>that we have roots and there's a we'll we'll get into this</v>

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<v Speaker 3>in a few minutes, but just as a as a preview, there's</v>

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<v Speaker 3>a notion today in the modern post-Enlightenment world that you know, as</v>

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<v Speaker 3>as you mentioned, Corey, you know, every every idea is basically treated</v>

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<v Speaker 3>as if it's a it's a virgin idea that it doesn't matter</v>

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<v Speaker 3>where it came from, maybe it's good, maybe it's bad.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>Let's just see how it looks, let's see how it works.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>People are presumed to be the same, to be a blank slate,</v>

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<v Speaker 3>uh, tabula rasa.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>Um, nothing could be further from the truth.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>You are not a blank slate.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>I am not a blank slate, I am my my father's seed</v>

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<v Speaker 3>and he is his father's seed going back to Adam.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>And the reason that I am a sinner is that Adam sinned</v>

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<v Speaker 3>and his sin was passed down for all however many hundreds of</v>

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<v Speaker 3>generations until today to me in the flesh through his seed.</v>

00:26:40.480 --> 00:26:47.040
<v Speaker 3>The transmission of sinfulness, the transmission of the curses of God in</v>

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<v Speaker 3>Genesis 3 occur generally through flesh.</v>

00:26:52.800 --> 00:26:55.840
<v Speaker 3>And this is something that we I think we don't even believe</v>

00:26:55.840 --> 00:27:00.160
<v Speaker 3>anymore today as Christians because again, if everyone's a blank slate, if</v>

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<v Speaker 3>if all you are permitted to do is judge a man by</v>

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<v Speaker 3>the content of his character, then you can't notice that the man</v>

00:27:07.920 --> 00:27:11.040
<v Speaker 3>is a Cretan and that when the Holy Spirit said that all</v>

00:27:11.040 --> 00:27:15.520
<v Speaker 3>Cretans are gluttons and liars, well I I I guess maybe God</v>

00:27:15.520 --> 00:27:17.840
<v Speaker 3>sinned when he said that because that's not permissible.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>There may be some creeds that have good character and so we</v>

00:27:21.280 --> 00:27:24.800
<v Speaker 3>can't know that about creedons until we until we talk to each</v>

00:27:24.800 --> 00:27:28.400
<v Speaker 3>of them individually and make individual judgments.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>That's simply false.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>A people is a family.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>Ideas how come from families.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>They all</v>

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<v Speaker 3>are transmitted through time sequentially, inheriting what came before them.</v>

00:27:43.440 --> 00:27:47.760
<v Speaker 3>And the reason that we're talking about roots today versus a blank</v>

00:27:47.760 --> 00:27:53.760
<v Speaker 3>slate is that when the blank slate theory was originally proposed, the</v>

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<v Speaker 3>first record we have it was from Addist Aristotle, you know, over</v>

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<v Speaker 3>two thousand years ago, it was specifically a philosophical inquiry into the</v>

00:28:02.720 --> 00:28:04.480
<v Speaker 3>nature of thought itself.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>So originally blank slate wasn't referring to a human being with regard</v>

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<v Speaker 3>to their their moral qualities.</v>

00:28:13.680 --> 00:28:17.360
<v Speaker 3>It was regard with regard to the contents of their mind.</v>

00:28:17.360 --> 00:28:21.600
<v Speaker 3>The question was when a baby is born, what do they know?</v>

00:28:21.600 --> 00:28:24.880
<v Speaker 3>Do they inherit knowledge or do they know nothing?</v>

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<v Speaker 3>And then whatever they absorb from the world accumulates and that be</v>

00:28:28.880 --> 00:28:30.720
<v Speaker 3>helps to define them.</v>

00:28:30.720 --> 00:28:35.440
<v Speaker 3>And this was the use of blank slate whenever it popped up</v>

00:28:35.440 --> 00:28:38.960
<v Speaker 3>across philosophers until the seventeen hundreds.</v>

00:28:38.960 --> 00:28:44.080
<v Speaker 3>Um when John Locke came along, he decided that it wasn't enough</v>

00:28:44.080 --> 00:28:47.920
<v Speaker 3>just to say that it was about thought, but he wanted to</v>

00:28:47.920 --> 00:28:51.680
<v Speaker 3>turn the blank slate of a human being into a moral blank</v>

00:28:51.680 --> 00:28:54.320
<v Speaker 3>slate as well, and to say that individuals</v>

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<v Speaker 3>we define our moral character as well by our choices, and that</v>

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<v Speaker 3>we build up from</v>

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<v Speaker 3>nothing into either a good person or a bad person based on</v>

00:29:07.280 --> 00:29:10.320
<v Speaker 3>based on the information we receive and then the choices that we</v>

00:29:10.320 --> 00:29:13.280
<v Speaker 3>make. And that sort of self-determination</v>

00:29:14.240 --> 00:29:16.640
<v Speaker 3>is the root of libertarian thought today.</v>

00:29:16.640 --> 00:29:20.240
<v Speaker 3>And it's it's something that so many l Christians have fallen for</v>

00:29:20.320 --> 00:29:24.480
<v Speaker 3>and it's it's really a shame because that's the argument that Satan</v>

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<v Speaker 3>made to Eve in the gospel in the sorry in Genesis.</v>

00:29:27.760 --> 00:29:31.360
<v Speaker 3>Satan's argument to Eve was, you can be like God.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>You can choose to be better than you are.</v>

00:29:33.600 --> 00:29:37.600
<v Speaker 3>This obedience stuff isn't Uh that's not really a question.</v>

00:29:37.600 --> 00:29:40.400
<v Speaker 3>The question is how much can you become?</v>

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<v Speaker 3>And that was this the lie that Satan sold to Eve, and</v>

00:29:43.840 --> 00:29:48.320
<v Speaker 3>she ate it up because she had not been properly catechized, because</v>

00:29:48.480 --> 00:29:53.680
<v Speaker 3>Adam was not a faithful husband who kept Satan at bay, and</v>

00:29:54.480 --> 00:29:57.200
<v Speaker 3>she was the weaker vessel, and she fell for it.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>And</v>

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<v Speaker 3>that lie has been repeated for six thousand years and it keeps</v>

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<v Speaker 3>getting repackaged and people keep swallowing it because they don't look at</v>

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<v Speaker 3>its origin.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>Once you understand the form of the argument that you can be</v>

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<v Speaker 3>as God, once you s when you get a whiff of that,</v>

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<v Speaker 3>it should terrify and you should run screaming and you should silence</v>

00:30:20.640 --> 00:30:25.360
<v Speaker 3>whoever is bringing that argument to you because that person is Satan's</v>

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<v Speaker 3>vessel. A person is there as an emissary for the devil.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>And we don't have any concept of that today.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>We don't have any discernment when we we look at ideas.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>We just think about it in pragmatic terms because we assume that</v>

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<v Speaker 3>all all since all people are blank slates and all de ideas</v>

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<v Speaker 3>are blank slates, when when a Christian comes to you with some</v>

00:30:48.640 --> 00:30:53.200
<v Speaker 3>new idea that they heard, their arguments are going to be well,</v>

00:30:53.200 --> 00:30:54.960
<v Speaker 3>here's the pragmatic value to it.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>Let's see if we can make this work.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>And then let's see if we can find it in scripture.</v>

00:30:59.120 --> 00:31:01.520
<v Speaker 3>And if you can go back to scripture and sort of import</v>

00:31:01.520 --> 00:31:04.720
<v Speaker 3>some Bible verses and proof text and say, okay, here we go.</v>

00:31:04.720 --> 00:31:09.040
<v Speaker 3>Now we have officially sanctified this brand new idea that no Christian,</v>

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<v Speaker 3>no believer for six thousand years have ever held.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>We now hold it and we've now justified it in view of</v>

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<v Speaker 3>Scripture. Toda, it's Christian.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>No. Absolutely not.</v>

00:31:20.640 --> 00:31:23.520
<v Speaker 3>That idea has roots that are not from God.</v>

00:31:23.520 --> 00:31:28.640
<v Speaker 3>Because if the roots were from God, other believers would have held</v>

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<v Speaker 3>it too.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>And And this is the the essence of I I mentioned this</v>

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<v Speaker 3>last week.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>Lutherans in particular and I think the post Reformation believers in general</v>

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<v Speaker 3>are extremely vulnerable to To</v>

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<v Speaker 3>resisting any notion that if you make an argument from the historicity</v>

00:31:51.440 --> 00:31:56.880
<v Speaker 3>of a fact, you're somehow gonna turn into a papist.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>Because Because when Rome made arguments about, well, no one's ever believed</v>

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<v Speaker 3>this. We we've done this for hundreds of years and thousands of</v>

00:32:03.520 --> 00:32:05.680
<v Speaker 3>years. This is the official teaching.</v>

00:32:05.680 --> 00:32:06.720
<v Speaker 3>It's our tradition.</v>

00:32:06.720 --> 00:32:09.840
<v Speaker 3>You can't do otherwise.</v>

00:32:09.840 --> 00:32:13.680
<v Speaker 3>It wasn't that that was a bad argument.</v>

00:32:13.680 --> 00:32:16.320
<v Speaker 3>It was that it was a false argument.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>When Rome said that the teachings on justification that Luther found in</v>

00:32:21.120 --> 00:32:26.320
<v Speaker 3>Romans were not historically accurate, they were lying.</v>

00:32:26.320 --> 00:32:27.280
<v Speaker 3>They were lying.</v>

00:32:27.280 --> 00:32:31.360
<v Speaker 3>And in and l the Lutherans of that day and others went</v>

00:32:31.360 --> 00:32:33.840
<v Speaker 3>back to the early church fathers and found that they all believed</v>

00:32:33.840 --> 00:32:34.400
<v Speaker 3>those things.</v>

00:32:34.400 --> 00:32:36.240
<v Speaker 3>And then they were lost at some point.</v>

00:32:36.240 --> 00:32:41.680
<v Speaker 3>New ideas were imported and they became sanctified by everyone repeating the</v>

00:32:41.680 --> 00:32:43.600
<v Speaker 3>same lies over and over again.</v>

00:32:43.600 --> 00:32:47.920
<v Speaker 3>And then eventually the inheritance became such that no one could remember</v>

00:32:47.920 --> 00:32:53.040
<v Speaker 3>what was originally taught, and people stopped looking at scripture as the</v>

00:32:53.040 --> 00:32:57.360
<v Speaker 3>source. And that that's the error that that every Christian must resist.</v>

00:32:57.360 --> 00:33:01.200
<v Speaker 3>Tradition is not the principal argument, but tradition is</v>

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<v Speaker 3>substantiation for a claim.</v>

00:33:04.640 --> 00:33:09.600
<v Speaker 3>If you claim that something is scriptural, you are tacitly claiming, and</v>

00:33:09.600 --> 00:33:12.480
<v Speaker 3>really you're implicitly claiming one of two things.</v>

00:33:12.480 --> 00:33:14.560
<v Speaker 3>Either you have discovered something</v>

00:33:15.440 --> 00:33:20.640
<v Speaker 3>that all Christians didn't believe, they sinned but in disbelieving it, and</v>

00:33:20.880 --> 00:33:24.800
<v Speaker 3>you are condemning every forefather in the faith, all of your ancestors</v>

00:33:24.800 --> 00:33:29.600
<v Speaker 3>who held to the Christian faith, they sinned by not believing the</v>

00:33:29.600 --> 00:33:33.200
<v Speaker 3>thing that you're saying they should have believed, that you now believe,</v>

00:33:33.200 --> 00:33:36.000
<v Speaker 3>and that you're saying is coming from God.</v>

00:33:36.000 --> 00:33:36.320
<v Speaker 3>And</v>

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<v Speaker 3>it's conceivable that that's true.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>But if that's an argument that's to be made, it must be</v>

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<v Speaker 3>made out in public.</v>

00:33:43.920 --> 00:33:47.200
<v Speaker 3>You can't just say, Well, Luther said mean things about this certain</v>

00:33:47.200 --> 00:33:48.800
<v Speaker 3>group and that was evil.</v>

00:33:48.800 --> 00:33:50.400
<v Speaker 3>Well Luther was unrepentant.</v>

00:33:50.400 --> 00:33:51.680
<v Speaker 3>Did he go to hell for it?</v>

00:33:52.000 --> 00:33:55.120
<v Speaker 3>he never repented for the things that he said about certain people</v>

00:33:55.120 --> 00:33:58.480
<v Speaker 3>groups, neither did Walther, neither did all these other men.</v>

00:33:58.480 --> 00:34:04.240
<v Speaker 3>They went to their graves boldly proclaim proclaiming in Christ's name things</v>

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<v Speaker 3>that are to day called sinful.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>And so the reason we're talking about the genealogy of ideas, the</v>

00:34:10.240 --> 00:34:15.920
<v Speaker 3>roots of these ideas, is that if you got something brand new,</v>

00:34:15.920 --> 00:34:17.680
<v Speaker 3>you got to admit it's new.</v>

00:34:17.680 --> 00:34:21.680
<v Speaker 3>And you have to explain to everyone why this new thing that</v>

00:34:21.680 --> 00:34:27.280
<v Speaker 3>you're trying to sell is consistent with what the Christian church has</v>

00:34:27.280 --> 00:34:28.240
<v Speaker 3>always held.</v>

00:34:28.240 --> 00:34:32.400
<v Speaker 3>And if you can't do that, you should be silent.</v>

00:34:32.400 --> 00:34:34.960
<v Speaker 3>Uh and that's the reason we're spending so much time on talking</v>

00:34:34.960 --> 00:34:39.760
<v Speaker 3>about the scriptural basis for talking about this in this way is</v>

00:34:39.760 --> 00:34:42.560
<v Speaker 3>that we we want to make sure that we are not guilty</v>

00:34:42.560 --> 00:34:46.640
<v Speaker 3>of that which we are challenging elsewhere in the church If we</v>

00:34:46.640 --> 00:34:51.040
<v Speaker 3>say something and we can't back it out from what God says,</v>

00:34:51.040 --> 00:34:52.960
<v Speaker 3>we should be silent.</v>

00:34:52.960 --> 00:34:57.440
<v Speaker 3>What we're saying is that the idea that where something came from</v>

00:34:57.760 --> 00:35:02.960
<v Speaker 3>has an inherent inherent moral tenor is scriptural.</v>

00:35:02.960 --> 00:35:08.640
<v Speaker 3>The saying that where a man came from, who his ancestors were,</v>

00:35:08.640 --> 00:35:12.400
<v Speaker 3>shapes who he is, not who he might be, but sh who</v>

00:35:12.400 --> 00:35:15.360
<v Speaker 3>he is apart from his own will.</v>

00:35:15.360 --> 00:35:19.120
<v Speaker 3>That's something that's never been controversial in all of human history until</v>

00:35:19.120 --> 00:35:20.880
<v Speaker 3>the last couple hundred years.</v>

00:35:20.880 --> 00:35:24.720
<v Speaker 3>And today it's something that will get you expelled from churches, it</v>

00:35:24.720 --> 00:35:28.320
<v Speaker 3>will get you i fired from your job, it will get you</v>

00:35:28.320 --> 00:35:33.360
<v Speaker 3>completely destroyed in our modern world for saying what Christians have always</v>

00:35:33.360 --> 00:35:34.720
<v Speaker 3>said until recently.</v>

00:35:34.720 --> 00:35:38.560
<v Speaker 3>And so it's incredibly important to deal with this issue of w</v>

00:35:38.880 --> 00:35:40.560
<v Speaker 3>what are these ideas based on?</v>

00:35:40.560 --> 00:35:41.520
<v Speaker 3>Where did they come from?</v>

00:35:41.520 --> 00:35:43.040
<v Speaker 3>Where do their roots?</v>

00:35:43.040 --> 00:35:48.080
<v Speaker 3>Because if you're getting ideas that are rooted in false teachings</v>

00:35:49.680 --> 00:35:51.280
<v Speaker 3>Uh you're serving Satan.</v>

00:35:51.280 --> 00:35:53.280
<v Speaker 3>I th there's no other way to put it.</v>

00:35:53.280 --> 00:35:56.320
<v Speaker 3>Uh in in the future we will we'll do a general episode</v>

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<v Speaker 3>just on truth.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>Um but there are two points that that I hammer uh every</v>

00:36:00.160 --> 00:36:01.520
<v Speaker 3>time I get the chance.</v>

00:36:01.760 --> 00:36:02.800
<v Speaker 3>One is that Satan is</v>

00:36:03.920 --> 00:36:08.400
<v Speaker 3>The father of lies, not just lies about John 3:16.</v>

00:36:08.400 --> 00:36:12.080
<v Speaker 3>Satan is not only the father of lies about how you go</v>

00:36:12.080 --> 00:36:13.200
<v Speaker 3>to heaven.</v>

00:36:13.200 --> 00:36:17.680
<v Speaker 3>Satan is the father of every single lie.</v>

00:36:17.680 --> 00:36:20.640
<v Speaker 3>And Satan doesn't care which lie you adopt.</v>

00:36:20.640 --> 00:36:23.680
<v Speaker 3>You can love Jesus and you can think the cross is great</v>

00:36:23.760 --> 00:36:27.280
<v Speaker 3>and you can be delighted at the prospect of going to heaven.</v>

00:36:27.280 --> 00:36:31.120
<v Speaker 3>And if you start embracing lies that are contrary to what Scripture</v>

00:36:31.120 --> 00:36:37.120
<v Speaker 3>says, that are contrary to reality, you are also embracing Satan, even</v>

00:36:37.120 --> 00:36:39.040
<v Speaker 3>while you're embracing Jesus.</v>

00:36:39.040 --> 00:36:42.080
<v Speaker 3>Uh this is something that's pointed out in in First Timothy five</v>

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<v Speaker 3>where there are a couple examples of what Paul calls teachings of</v>

00:36:46.560 --> 00:36:51.280
<v Speaker 3>demons. And if you look at them, it's abstention from eating certain</v>

00:36:51.280 --> 00:36:54.480
<v Speaker 3>meats. Uh and it's th it's trivialities.</v>

00:36:54.480 --> 00:36:57.280
<v Speaker 3>It's n it's something it's something that we would never call heresy</v>

00:36:57.280 --> 00:36:58.640
<v Speaker 3>or blasphemy today.</v>

00:36:58.880 --> 00:37:01.040
<v Speaker 3>we would say, well yeah, I don't know, I mean maybe that's</v>

00:37:01.040 --> 00:37:05.760
<v Speaker 3>okay. Paul says those are teachings of demons, and he says it</v>

00:37:05.760 --> 00:37:08.400
<v Speaker 3>because Satan is the father of lies lies.</v>

00:37:08.400 --> 00:37:11.440
<v Speaker 3>And when the demons go out and they spread these lies, it's</v>

00:37:11.440 --> 00:37:12.240
<v Speaker 3>the little stuff.</v>

00:37:12.240 --> 00:37:16.480
<v Speaker 3>It's the it's the penny annie stuff that no one cares about</v>

00:37:16.720 --> 00:37:19.040
<v Speaker 3>because even if you're wrong, it's no big deal.</v>

00:37:19.040 --> 00:37:22.240
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I'm still focused on the cross, so I'm gonna be fine.</v>

00:37:22.320 --> 00:37:24.160
<v Speaker 3>Satan knows that's not true.</v>

00:37:24.160 --> 00:37:25.680
<v Speaker 3>And so does God.</v>

00:37:25.680 --> 00:37:30.880
<v Speaker 3>And the battleground that we all face today.</v>

00:37:30.880 --> 00:37:33.120
<v Speaker 3>Again, it goes back to Genesis.</v>

00:37:33.120 --> 00:37:36.080
<v Speaker 3>It goes back to the lies that Satan told Eve.</v>

00:37:36.080 --> 00:37:41.200
<v Speaker 3>But it's also a constantly evolving battle where the lives are changing</v>

00:37:41.200 --> 00:37:46.160
<v Speaker 3>periodically, the approaches are changing, and as the world becomes worse, as</v>

00:37:46.160 --> 00:37:50.400
<v Speaker 3>fewer and fewer people care what scripture says, or even acknowledge that</v>

00:37:50.400 --> 00:37:54.480
<v Speaker 3>God exists, the easier it is for Satan to use these small</v>

00:37:54.480 --> 00:37:59.680
<v Speaker 3>lies as huge wedges to divide us from our own east own</v>

00:37:59.680 --> 00:38:03.760
<v Speaker 3>salvation. And that is why this fight is worth fighting, it's why</v>

00:38:03.760 --> 00:38:05.600
<v Speaker 3>it's worth mentioning these things.</v>

00:38:05.600 --> 00:38:10.800
<v Speaker 3>Because as long as people are willing to disregard the history of</v>

00:38:10.800 --> 00:38:14.880
<v Speaker 3>ideas and just look at them in a vacuum and adopt them</v>

00:38:14.880 --> 00:38:21.760
<v Speaker 3>wholesale, if they can somehow find justification in scripture through proof texting,</v>

00:38:21.760 --> 00:38:23.680
<v Speaker 3>we will lose the church.</v>

00:38:23.680 --> 00:38:26.080
<v Speaker 3>We will lose souls to Satan.</v>

00:38:26.240 --> 00:38:27.680
<v Speaker 3>It happens every day.</v>

00:38:27.680 --> 00:38:31.760
<v Speaker 3>And it's uh weird I don't have examples to to provide, but</v>

00:38:33.120 --> 00:38:36.560
<v Speaker 3>you see this happening over and over again where someone, you know,</v>

00:38:36.560 --> 00:38:39.840
<v Speaker 3>on Twitter or elsewhere, just someone who's no longer connected to the</v>

00:38:39.840 --> 00:38:43.280
<v Speaker 3>church at all will say, I used to believe, but then I</v>

00:38:43.280 --> 00:38:48.240
<v Speaker 3>went down this path of, you know, drugs or music or some</v>

00:38:48.400 --> 00:38:52.240
<v Speaker 3>some worldly thing that when it was served first adopted by that</v>

00:38:52.240 --> 00:38:54.240
<v Speaker 3>person didn't seem like a big deal.</v>

00:38:54.240 --> 00:38:57.920
<v Speaker 3>And they will give those things credit for separating their souls from</v>

00:38:57.920 --> 00:38:59.840
<v Speaker 3>God and they'll say, and I don't care.</v>

00:38:59.840 --> 00:39:02.320
<v Speaker 3>I'm glad I'm I'm glad I'm done with the church.</v>

00:39:02.320 --> 00:39:03.920
<v Speaker 3>I hated that part of my life.</v>

00:39:03.920 --> 00:39:05.200
<v Speaker 3>It was terrible.</v>

00:39:05.200 --> 00:39:10.720
<v Speaker 3>It was I was I was abused uh spiritually and I thank</v>

00:39:11.440 --> 00:39:13.600
<v Speaker 3>I thank no one because there is no God.</v>

00:39:13.600 --> 00:39:16.880
<v Speaker 3>I I am thankful to have been freed from the shackles of</v>

00:39:16.880 --> 00:39:21.920
<v Speaker 3>all of those Christians trying to tell me how to live.</v>

00:39:21.920 --> 00:39:25.200
<v Speaker 3>That's the end game for adopting these little lies.</v>

00:39:25.200 --> 00:39:29.920
<v Speaker 3>And so it's it's vital that people take the notion of where</v>

00:39:29.920 --> 00:39:32.240
<v Speaker 3>did that idea come from seriously?</v>

00:39:32.240 --> 00:39:37.440
<v Speaker 3>If you don't, you are wide open for deception from at all</v>

00:39:37.440 --> 00:39:39.440
<v Speaker 3>directions.</v>

00:39:39.840 --> 00:39:44.720
<v Speaker 2>There's a form of fishing where you tie a bunch of hooks</v>

00:39:44.720 --> 00:39:48.640
<v Speaker 2>along a single line and then you toss that line out.</v>

00:39:48.640 --> 00:39:54.320
<v Speaker 2>Now as a fisherman, you don't care which hook the fish bites,</v>

00:39:54.320 --> 00:39:58.240
<v Speaker 2>because if he bites any hook, you've caught the fish.</v>

00:39:58.240 --> 00:40:01.200
<v Speaker 2>Satan is the same way with his deceptions.</v>

00:40:01.200 --> 00:40:05.200
<v Speaker 2>If he can get you on anything, he's going to try to</v>

00:40:05.200 --> 00:40:06.400
<v Speaker 2>reel you in.</v>

00:40:06.400 --> 00:40:09.600
<v Speaker 2>And then he'll get you on something else and something else.</v>

00:40:09.600 --> 00:40:13.600
<v Speaker 2>Because once you've bought into one lie, it's easier to get you</v>

00:40:13.600 --> 00:40:16.240
<v Speaker 2>to buy into the next lie.</v>

00:40:16.240 --> 00:40:20.720
<v Speaker 2>It's the same thing as when a large company takes over a</v>

00:40:20.720 --> 00:40:24.800
<v Speaker 2>market. And I guess I'll delve into my specialty here for a</v>

00:40:25.200 --> 00:40:27.920
<v Speaker 2>a brief moment.</v>

00:40:27.920 --> 00:40:31.760
<v Speaker 2>One of the problems with a monopoly is that a monopoly can</v>

00:40:31.760 --> 00:40:36.400
<v Speaker 2>use its power in one market to leverage itself into an adjacent</v>

00:40:36.400 --> 00:40:37.840
<v Speaker 2>market and take over.</v>

00:40:37.840 --> 00:40:42.800
<v Speaker 2>And Satan does the same thing with lies, with deception.</v>

00:40:42.800 --> 00:40:45.760
<v Speaker 2>If he can get you to believe one, he will use that</v>

00:40:45.760 --> 00:40:49.520
<v Speaker 2>belief in that one to undermine your belief in some other truth</v>

00:40:49.680 --> 00:40:53.120
<v Speaker 2>and then get you to accept another lie, another deception, and you</v>

00:40:53.120 --> 00:40:58.160
<v Speaker 2>just find yourself more and more mired, more and deeper stuck in</v>

00:40:58.160 --> 00:40:59.680
<v Speaker 2>this morass.</v>

00:40:59.680 --> 00:41:02.320
<v Speaker 2>And so you cannot give him that foothold.</v>

00:41:02.320 --> 00:41:06.720
<v Speaker 2>If you give Satan a toe hold, he's never going away.</v>

00:41:06.720 --> 00:41:10.080
<v Speaker 2>He's going to keep trying to grasp at more.</v>

00:41:10.080 --> 00:41:12.720
<v Speaker 2>And that is how falsehood works.</v>

00:41:12.720 --> 00:41:17.360
<v Speaker 2>If you believe a lie, you are it is a sin, first</v>

00:41:17.360 --> 00:41:21.200
<v Speaker 2>off, because you are believing something that is false, depending on the</v>

00:41:21.200 --> 00:41:22.480
<v Speaker 2>falsehood you believe, of course.</v>

00:41:22.480 --> 00:41:25.200
<v Speaker 2>If I simply have a mistaken belief, if I believe my dog</v>

00:41:25.200 --> 00:41:27.920
<v Speaker 2>is in the next room when he's actually at my feet.</v>

00:41:27.920 --> 00:41:29.840
<v Speaker 2>That's not a sin, that's a mistake.</v>

00:41:29.840 --> 00:41:33.280
<v Speaker 2>But if I believe something false about God, about God's creation, about</v>

00:41:33.280 --> 00:41:36.160
<v Speaker 2>the truth, that's sinful.</v>

00:41:36.160 --> 00:41:40.240
<v Speaker 2>And believing that opens me up to other attacks.</v>

00:41:40.800 --> 00:41:45.440
<v Speaker 2>Now on the topic of traditions, can't say how many times I</v>

00:41:45.440 --> 00:41:50.720
<v Speaker 2>have encountered those who will say, well we both agree that Jesus</v>

00:41:50.720 --> 00:41:55.040
<v Speaker 2>died and so we're both saved, and all this other stuff doesn't</v>

00:41:54.960 --> 00:41:58.960
<v Speaker 2>matter. And that's just an insane position to take.</v>

00:41:58.960 --> 00:42:03.920
<v Speaker 2>And we know that because yes, soteriology matters, yes, the gospel matters,</v>

00:42:03.920 --> 00:42:05.520
<v Speaker 2>yes, this is the core of our faith.</v>

00:42:05.520 --> 00:42:09.760
<v Speaker 2>Yes, Article four, Justification, all important.</v>

00:42:09.760 --> 00:42:14.560
<v Speaker 2>But if you get that right and everything else wrong, the odds</v>

00:42:14.560 --> 00:42:18.720
<v Speaker 2>of you remaining a Christian are very slim, because you can't hold</v>

00:42:18.720 --> 00:42:22.000
<v Speaker 2>on to that one truth in the face of this storm of</v>

00:42:22.000 --> 00:42:23.280
<v Speaker 2>lies and deceit.</v>

00:42:23.280 --> 00:42:25.440
<v Speaker 2>You will eventually lose that too.</v>

00:42:25.440 --> 00:42:28.480
<v Speaker 2>And that's what happened with Rome.</v>

00:42:28.480 --> 00:42:35.440
<v Speaker 2>Rome slowly adopted a little lie here, a little mistake there, this</v>

00:42:35.600 --> 00:42:41.920
<v Speaker 2>cult of Mary here, this syncretistic practice there, and Rome lost the</v>

00:42:41.920 --> 00:42:43.760
<v Speaker 2>gospel because of it.</v>

00:42:43.760 --> 00:42:46.160
<v Speaker 2>And it's the same thing the Jews did in the Old Testament.</v>

00:42:46.560 --> 00:42:50.240
<v Speaker 2>Oh well we'll just adopt this particular form of worship on this</v>

00:42:50.240 --> 00:42:52.720
<v Speaker 2>high place from this Canaanite tribe.</v>

00:42:52.720 --> 00:42:53.920
<v Speaker 2>It'll be fine.</v>

00:42:53.920 --> 00:42:55.920
<v Speaker 2>And then another and another.</v>

00:42:55.920 --> 00:42:59.600
<v Speaker 2>And all of a sudden, you don't even know where the Torah</v>

00:42:59.600 --> 00:43:02.960
<v Speaker 2>is anymore, you've literally lost the scriptures.</v>

00:43:02.960 --> 00:43:05.200
<v Speaker 2>That is what Satan wants.</v>

00:43:05.200 --> 00:43:08.080
<v Speaker 2>And he's good at this game, he's been playing it for a</v>

00:43:08.080 --> 00:43:10.400
<v Speaker 2>very long time, and he has a lot of time on his</v>

00:43:10.400 --> 00:43:12.400
<v Speaker 2>hands. So</v>

00:43:13.600 --> 00:43:16.880
<v Speaker 2>the the goal here isn't to outwit Satan.</v>

00:43:16.880 --> 00:43:20.800
<v Speaker 2>The goal is to stand steadfast on the truth and rely on</v>

00:43:20.800 --> 00:43:25.520
<v Speaker 2>God. And to rely on God, we need to believe true things</v>

00:43:25.520 --> 00:43:29.920
<v Speaker 2>about God instead of all these lies from the world, instead of,</v>

00:43:29.920 --> 00:43:34.560
<v Speaker 2>you know, Rawls' veil of ignorance, and all of the various underpinnings</v>

00:43:34.560 --> 00:43:41.200
<v Speaker 2>of libertarian thought which when you start to compare them, libertarianism and</v>

00:43:41.200 --> 00:43:46.640
<v Speaker 2>Satanism look a lot alike, and that should deeply worry Christians, and</v>

00:43:46.640 --> 00:43:50.240
<v Speaker 2>also there's quite a bit of overlap with individuals involved in the</v>

00:43:50.240 --> 00:43:54.960
<v Speaker 2>two but Because what is the core command, as it were, the</v>

00:43:54.960 --> 00:43:57.200
<v Speaker 2>rule in Satanism?</v>

00:43:57.200 --> 00:44:00.320
<v Speaker 2>Do as thou wilt, and thou shalt be the whole of the</v>

00:44:00.320 --> 00:44:06.000
<v Speaker 2>law. Well libertarianism is pretty much the same thing.</v>

00:44:06.000 --> 00:44:10.480
<v Speaker 2>It's do whatever you want, but don't harm others, typically is the</v>

00:44:10.480 --> 00:44:12.800
<v Speaker 2>formulation, something along those lines.</v>

00:44:12.800 --> 00:44:16.400
<v Speaker 2>And Satanism has other additional rules that basically say well don't harm</v>

00:44:16.400 --> 00:44:21.360
<v Speaker 2>others. You know, don't take what they say seriously, but it should</v>

00:44:21.360 --> 00:44:27.680
<v Speaker 2>worry Christians that these are the same things being said by libertarianism,</v>

00:44:27.600 --> 00:44:30.800
<v Speaker 2>which is construed as well, it's just a political ideology.</v>

00:44:30.800 --> 00:44:31.760
<v Speaker 2>It's just a theory.</v>

00:44:31.760 --> 00:44:35.440
<v Speaker 2>We're permitted to accept that because again, they don't look at the</v>

00:44:35.440 --> 00:44:37.840
<v Speaker 2>genealogy of these ideas.</v>

00:44:37.840 --> 00:44:42.560
<v Speaker 2>And Satanism, which obviously most Christians, I would hope, will be able</v>

00:44:42.560 --> 00:44:45.120
<v Speaker 2>to say, well, obviously we can't accept that.</v>

00:44:45.120 --> 00:44:48.560
<v Speaker 2>But if they're saying the same thing, why are you accepting one</v>

00:44:48.560 --> 00:44:49.200
<v Speaker 2>and not the other?</v>

00:44:49.200 --> 00:44:52.000
<v Speaker 2>Why don't you look at the genesis of these things to give</v>

00:44:52.000 --> 00:44:57.680
<v Speaker 2>a a concrete example, just to make some people particularly uncomfortable.</v>

00:44:57.680 --> 00:44:59.520
<v Speaker 2>How about Harry Potter?</v>

00:44:59.520 --> 00:45:01.440
<v Speaker 2>Did you let your children read that book?</v>

00:45:01.440 --> 00:45:02.640
<v Speaker 2>Do you have it in your house?</v>

00:45:02.640 --> 00:45:04.400
<v Speaker 2>Have you watched the movies?</v>

00:45:04.400 --> 00:45:06.240
<v Speaker 2>Do you support these things?</v>

00:45:06.240 --> 00:45:09.520
<v Speaker 2>Well, the author of that book for a very long time, her</v>

00:45:09.520 --> 00:45:14.640
<v Speaker 2>social media background, was Tarot Cards from Crowley's Deck.</v>

00:45:14.640 --> 00:45:18.480
<v Speaker 2>Open, outright, blunt Satanism.</v>

00:45:18.480 --> 00:45:23.280
<v Speaker 2>And so you are exposing your children to things that have literal</v>

00:45:23.280 --> 00:45:29.200
<v Speaker 2>black magic, satanic magic in them, because you didn't pay attention to</v>

00:45:29.200 --> 00:45:30.720
<v Speaker 2>the genealogy.</v>

00:45:30.720 --> 00:45:36.160
<v Speaker 2>You did not pay attention to whence this particular work came.</v>

00:45:36.160 --> 00:45:38.640
<v Speaker 2>The author matters, so look into the author.</v>

00:45:38.640 --> 00:45:41.360
<v Speaker 2>Well the author is involved in the occult.</v>

00:45:41.360 --> 00:45:46.720
<v Speaker 2>If this author involved in the occult, promoting occult practices and having</v>

00:45:46.720 --> 00:45:50.400
<v Speaker 2>all sorts of occult images, if she is the one who wrote</v>

00:45:50.400 --> 00:45:54.960
<v Speaker 2>it, you should probably be worried about providing that to your children.</v>

00:45:54.960 --> 00:45:58.800
<v Speaker 2>It's not just a cutesy story about wizards.</v>

00:45:58.800 --> 00:46:00.480
<v Speaker 2>That's not what it is.</v>

00:46:00.480 --> 00:46:05.360
<v Speaker 2>Pay attention to the source of the materials you are ingesting and</v>

00:46:05.360 --> 00:46:08.560
<v Speaker 2>you are providing for your children.</v>

00:46:09.280 --> 00:46:13.680
<v Speaker 3>And it's important when when people here look at the source that</v>

00:46:13.920 --> 00:46:17.040
<v Speaker 3>we're talking about the original source.</v>

00:46:17.040 --> 00:46:23.200
<v Speaker 3>So it may well be that your pastor pushes libertarianism or says</v>

00:46:23.200 --> 00:46:27.280
<v Speaker 3>that Harry Potter is fine or shares books with you in your</v>

00:46:27.280 --> 00:46:31.600
<v Speaker 3>congregation that should never be shared or read by any Christian because</v>

00:46:31.600 --> 00:46:33.600
<v Speaker 3>of their origins.</v>

00:46:33.600 --> 00:46:38.240
<v Speaker 3>We're saying to look past the pastor regardless of his intentions.</v>

00:46:38.240 --> 00:46:41.200
<v Speaker 3>If he's doing those things and he is an heir, that is</v>

00:46:41.200 --> 00:46:43.200
<v Speaker 3>grievous sin on his part.</v>

00:46:43.200 --> 00:46:46.160
<v Speaker 3>But it's grievous sin not because he</v>

00:46:47.040 --> 00:46:50.000
<v Speaker 3>is aware that he is doing something evil.</v>

00:46:50.000 --> 00:46:53.760
<v Speaker 3>It's evil because he doesn't realize he's doing something evil and he</v>

00:46:53.760 --> 00:46:56.000
<v Speaker 3>is giving it his imprimatur.</v>

00:46:56.000 --> 00:47:02.480
<v Speaker 3>He is blessing and sanctifying things which are evil, which are satanic,</v>

00:47:02.480 --> 00:47:06.560
<v Speaker 3>which are demonic lies, he is saying in the name of God,</v>

00:47:06.560 --> 00:47:09.600
<v Speaker 3>I tell you you're fine to eat this or to read this</v>

00:47:09.680 --> 00:47:10.960
<v Speaker 3>or to listen to this.</v>

00:47:10.960 --> 00:47:12.160
<v Speaker 3>It's not going to hurt</v>

00:47:12.160 --> 00:47:14.000
you. You

00:47:14.000 --> 00:47:18.480
<v Speaker 2>raise an important point here, and that is whether or not intent</v>

00:47:18.720 --> 00:47:22.640
<v Speaker 2>matters. The answer to that is kind of like our answer to</v>

00:47:22.640 --> 00:47:25.280
<v Speaker 2>whether or not baptism is absolutely necessary.</v>

00:47:25.280 --> 00:47:26.880
<v Speaker 2>Does intent matter?</v>

00:47:26.880 --> 00:47:29.680
<v Speaker 2>No, but yes, but no.</v>

00:47:29.680 --> 00:47:35.040
<v Speaker 2>And intent doesn't matter in the sense that an act can be</v>

00:47:35.040 --> 00:47:39.360
<v Speaker 2>evil itself, in and of itself, regardless of intent.</v>

00:47:39.360 --> 00:47:43.840
<v Speaker 2>Intent is an additional sin potentially on top of that.</v>

00:47:43.840 --> 00:47:46.640
<v Speaker 2>So what does it say about the fall?</v>

00:47:46.640 --> 00:47:48.640
<v Speaker 2>What does Scripture say about Eve?</v>

00:47:48.640 --> 00:47:50.800
<v Speaker 2>She was deceived.</v>

00:47:50.800 --> 00:47:52.480
<v Speaker 2>Did she intend to sin?</v>

00:47:52.480 --> 00:47:55.520
<v Speaker 2>It says she was deceived, she misunderstood, she did not know what</v>

00:47:55.520 --> 00:47:56.240
<v Speaker 2>was happening.</v>

00:47:56.240 --> 00:47:58.400
<v Speaker 2>It doesn't say that of Adam, notably.</v>

00:47:58.400 --> 00:48:00.480
<v Speaker 2>But But Eve was deceived.</v>

00:48:00.480 --> 00:48:02.000
<v Speaker 2>Was what she did still sin?</v>

00:48:02.000 --> 00:48:05.600
<v Speaker 2>Absolutely. The intent does not always matter.</v>

00:48:05.600 --> 00:48:09.520
<v Speaker 2>Acts themselves can be evil.</v>

00:48:11.120 --> 00:48:16.480
<v Speaker 3>And when we propagate them, we can't make them clean because we're</v>

00:48:16.480 --> 00:48:19.680
<v Speaker 3>Christian. And I think this is where a lot of people break</v>

00:48:19.680 --> 00:48:22.320
<v Speaker 3>down is that we have a notion that</v>

00:48:23.520 --> 00:48:26.960
<v Speaker 3>people hear the term Christian freedom and they don't know what it</v>

00:48:26.960 --> 00:48:29.680
<v Speaker 3>means or what where it came from, but it sounds pretty good,</v>

00:48:29.680 --> 00:48:32.400
<v Speaker 3>so they're just gonna run with it and make it whatever they</v>

00:48:32.400 --> 00:48:33.840
<v Speaker 3>want it to mean.</v>

00:48:34.080 --> 00:48:38.320
<v Speaker 3>and people think that if you confess that Jesus is God and</v>

00:48:38.320 --> 00:48:42.560
<v Speaker 3>you know that He died for your sins, then as long as</v>

00:48:42.560 --> 00:48:46.960
<v Speaker 3>you're not deliberately sinning too much, you're gonna be okay.</v>

00:48:46.960 --> 00:48:48.560
<v Speaker 3>And while there is</v>

00:48:50.320 --> 00:48:53.040
<v Speaker 3>a is a way in which it is possible to say that</v>

00:48:53.040 --> 00:48:54.640
<v Speaker 3>that is true.</v>

00:48:54.640 --> 00:48:56.400
<v Speaker 3>It should never be</v>

00:48:57.360 --> 00:48:59.440
<v Speaker 3>what anyone clings to.</v>

00:48:59.440 --> 00:49:04.080
<v Speaker 3>I you you had mentioned uh talk earlier about uh where things</v>

00:49:04.080 --> 00:49:06.720
<v Speaker 3>come from and and who says things first.</v>

00:49:06.720 --> 00:49:09.840
<v Speaker 3>I I think it's very important to point out to people who</v>

00:49:09.840 --> 00:49:14.560
<v Speaker 3>like to cling to the verses about whoever confesses Jesus will be</v>

00:49:14.560 --> 00:49:17.200
<v Speaker 3>saved. Yes, that's true.</v>

00:49:17.200 --> 00:49:22.720
<v Speaker 3>But remember this, the very first confession in all of Scripture, in</v>

00:49:22.720 --> 00:49:26.960
<v Speaker 3>all of history, the very first time that anyone said Jesus is</v>

00:49:26.960 --> 00:49:29.680
<v Speaker 3>the Holy One of God, it was a demon.</v>

00:49:29.920 --> 00:49:33.040
<v Speaker 3>In Luke 4, there was a man who had a demon, and</v>

00:49:33.040 --> 00:49:35.920
<v Speaker 3>he screamed to Jesus, What have you to do with us, Jesus</v>

00:49:35.920 --> 00:49:36.880
<v Speaker 3>of Nazareth?</v>

00:49:36.880 --> 00:49:38.320
<v Speaker 3>Have you come to destroy us?</v>

00:49:38.320 --> 00:49:40.800
<v Speaker 3>I know who you are, the holy one of God.</v>

00:49:40.800 --> 00:49:43.840
<v Speaker 3>Now that was a confession of Jesus as the Christ.</v>

00:49:43.840 --> 00:49:45.600
<v Speaker 3>Was it salvific?</v>

00:49:45.600 --> 00:49:49.280
<v Speaker 3>No. And it wasn't just because it was a demon speaking.</v>

00:49:49.280 --> 00:49:54.160
<v Speaker 3>It was not salvific because it was a confession in the sense</v>

00:49:54.160 --> 00:49:57.920
<v Speaker 3>that it was anguish, it was terror, and it was a confession</v>

00:49:57.920 --> 00:50:02.000
<v Speaker 3>that the demon in opposition to God knew that God was superior</v>

00:50:02.160 --> 00:50:03.920
<v Speaker 3>superior, infinitely so.</v>

00:50:03.920 --> 00:50:07.280
<v Speaker 3>And so he knew that when Jesus the Christ came to him,</v>

00:50:07.280 --> 00:50:11.040
<v Speaker 3>he was powerless and he was in anguish as a result.</v>

00:50:11.040 --> 00:50:13.360
<v Speaker 3>But he did say Jesus was God.</v>

00:50:13.360 --> 00:50:17.040
<v Speaker 3>And I think that far too many people who call themselves Christians</v>

00:50:17.040 --> 00:50:21.200
<v Speaker 3>today, just Genuinely believe that all someone has to do is cry,</v>

00:50:21.200 --> 00:50:23.840
<v Speaker 3>Lord, Lord, and that's the end of it.</v>

00:50:23.840 --> 00:50:24.160
<v Speaker 3>And</v>

00:50:25.440 --> 00:50:29.680
<v Speaker 3>we're gonna talk probably in virtually every episode about soteriology, which is</v>

00:50:29.680 --> 00:50:33.680
<v Speaker 3>how we're saved in contradistinction to</v>

00:50:34.560 --> 00:50:41.440
<v Speaker 3>the Christian life after salvation, because this this is where Protestant theology</v>

00:50:41.440 --> 00:50:43.680
<v Speaker 3>really gets into trouble.</v>

00:50:43.680 --> 00:50:49.680
<v Speaker 3>We spent so much time battling Rome's semi-Pelagian teachings that you can</v>

00:50:49.680 --> 00:50:51.120
<v Speaker 3>save yourself in part.</v>

00:50:51.120 --> 00:50:53.440
<v Speaker 3>You know, Jesus did some work on the cross, but you got</v>

00:50:53.440 --> 00:50:54.240
<v Speaker 3>to do good works.</v>

00:50:54.240 --> 00:50:57.840
<v Speaker 3>You have to buy the indulgences, you have to make the pilgrimages,</v>

00:50:57.840 --> 00:51:02.480
<v Speaker 3>you have to do certain confessions as a wrote right, not as</v>

00:51:02.480 --> 00:51:05.600
<v Speaker 3>a confession of I confess that I am a sinner, but you</v>

00:51:05.600 --> 00:51:09.680
<v Speaker 3>must perform these acts in order to be saved.</v>

00:51:09.680 --> 00:51:13.680
<v Speaker 3>No Christian can believe that, and we are never arguing that.</v>

00:51:13.680 --> 00:51:18.800
<v Speaker 3>Anytime you hear Corey or I talking about what we must do,</v>

00:51:18.800 --> 00:51:22.000
<v Speaker 3>it is in the sense of when James was writing to the</v>

00:51:22.400 --> 00:51:24.320
<v Speaker 3>believers to the church.</v>

00:51:24.320 --> 00:51:28.160
<v Speaker 3>He was not addressing people who were not Christians, who were trying</v>

00:51:28.160 --> 00:51:31.280
<v Speaker 3>to discover how to come to faith.</v>

00:51:31.280 --> 00:51:36.400
<v Speaker 3>James wrote his epistle to an established congregation filled with believers, addressing</v>

00:51:36.400 --> 00:51:41.920
<v Speaker 3>believers and telling them here is what the Christian life looks like.</v>

00:51:41.920 --> 00:51:45.680
<v Speaker 3>That's what you and I are doing with this slab this podcast.</v>

00:51:45.680 --> 00:51:47.120
<v Speaker 3>We are talking to believers.</v>

00:51:47.120 --> 00:51:49.520
<v Speaker 3>Like I'd I'd be thrilled if if someone who wasn't a Christian</v>

00:51:49.680 --> 00:51:52.880
<v Speaker 3>or didn't know uh uh didn't know Jesus listened as well.</v>

00:51:52.880 --> 00:51:55.440
<v Speaker 3>I hoped that there would be something that would resonate in the</v>

00:51:55.440 --> 00:51:59.600
<v Speaker 3>in their minds to hear that yeah they're actually Christians who don't</v>

00:51:59.600 --> 00:52:02.480
<v Speaker 3>sound completely gutless when they talk about this stuff.</v>

00:52:02.480 --> 00:52:04.480
<v Speaker 3>Because we don't have a gutless God.</v>

00:52:04.480 --> 00:52:08.720
<v Speaker 3>We have a God of strength and compassion and mercy and infinite</v>

00:52:08.720 --> 00:52:12.720
<v Speaker 3>love and infinite patience and infinite wrath.</v>

00:52:12.720 --> 00:52:16.320
<v Speaker 3>And each of those things must be emphasized at different times for</v>

00:52:16.320 --> 00:52:18.080
<v Speaker 3>different purposes.</v>

00:52:18.080 --> 00:52:22.320
<v Speaker 3>But modern Christianity has just kind of become afraid of emphasizing the</v>

00:52:22.320 --> 00:52:24.720
<v Speaker 3>parts that that scare people.</v>

00:52:24.720 --> 00:52:29.200
<v Speaker 3>Never mind the fact that the fear of the Lord is a</v>

00:52:29.200 --> 00:52:30.960
<v Speaker 3>virtue of a Christian.</v>

00:52:30.960 --> 00:52:33.040
<v Speaker 3>It is a virtue of a believer.</v>

00:52:33.040 --> 00:52:34.080
<v Speaker 3>And not fear.</v>

00:52:34.320 --> 00:52:37.040
<v Speaker 3>Like we don't even think about that word, what that means.</v>

00:52:37.040 --> 00:52:40.320
<v Speaker 3>That word is means what it says.</v>

00:52:40.320 --> 00:52:41.760
<v Speaker 3>It means terror.</v>

00:52:41.760 --> 00:52:46.560
<v Speaker 3>Not that the thought of God should terrorize us at all times,</v>

00:52:46.560 --> 00:52:47.200
<v Speaker 3>but that</v>

00:52:48.160 --> 00:52:53.360
<v Speaker 3>the recognition that we as fallen sinful creatures have lived and behaved</v>

00:52:53.680 --> 00:52:57.520
<v Speaker 3>in ways that is contrary to our Creator's will and that He</v>

00:52:57.520 --> 00:53:01.440
<v Speaker 3>has infinite power should give us a sense of terror, which is</v>

00:53:01.440 --> 00:53:05.600
<v Speaker 3>what makes the comfort of the gospel all the sweeter because we</v>

00:53:05.600 --> 00:53:08.800
<v Speaker 3>know we don't deserve it, we know we haven't earned it, we</v>

00:53:08.800 --> 00:53:12.000
<v Speaker 3>know that there's nothing we could ever do to merit it, and</v>

00:53:12.000 --> 00:53:15.840
<v Speaker 3>God gave it to us freely because his love is as great</v>

00:53:15.840 --> 00:53:16.960
<v Speaker 3>as his wrath.</v>

00:53:16.960 --> 00:53:19.280
<v Speaker 3>But on judgment day, there's gonna be</v>

00:53:20.240 --> 00:53:23.280
<v Speaker 3>just as much wrath poured out as love.</v>

00:53:23.280 --> 00:53:26.320
<v Speaker 3>And given that the narrow gate is the one through which we</v>

00:53:26.320 --> 00:53:30.400
<v Speaker 3>as believers have passed, the Y Gate is gonna you know, by</v>

00:53:30.400 --> 00:53:33.200
<v Speaker 3>volume, there's gonna be a lot more wrath passed out on judgment</v>

00:53:33.360 --> 00:53:34.960
<v Speaker 3>day then there is love.</v>

00:53:34.960 --> 00:53:37.760
<v Speaker 3>And that's not because God is not a loving God.</v>

00:53:37.760 --> 00:53:38.720
<v Speaker 3>It is because</v>

00:53:40.240 --> 00:53:46.320
<v Speaker 3>we as believers and as humans have in many cases failed to</v>

00:53:46.320 --> 00:53:47.760
<v Speaker 3>hear God's call.</v>

00:53:47.760 --> 00:53:52.480
<v Speaker 3>And we'll we're going to do future episodes on Christian nationalism and</v>

00:53:52.480 --> 00:53:53.840
<v Speaker 3>on race in particular.</v>

00:53:53.840 --> 00:53:56.400
<v Speaker 3>And so a lot of the things that we've discussed today will</v>

00:53:56.400 --> 00:53:59.840
<v Speaker 3>be themes that are going to recur because all of this is</v>

00:53:59.840 --> 00:54:05.360
<v Speaker 3>really one big argument pointing back to scripture to make the case</v>

00:54:05.360 --> 00:54:08.400
<v Speaker 3>that the way that God has arranged the world</v>

00:54:09.280 --> 00:54:12.880
<v Speaker 3>is when we obey God, when we do what God says and</v>

00:54:12.880 --> 00:54:16.800
<v Speaker 3>when we believe what He teaches, we are blessed by it.</v>

00:54:16.800 --> 00:54:20.960
<v Speaker 3>And getting back to the the earlier promise of uh actually I</v>

00:54:20.960 --> 00:54:26.640
<v Speaker 3>guess we didn't this episode, but God promises to visit the wrath</v>

00:54:26.640 --> 00:54:30.800
<v Speaker 3>unto the third and j fourth generations of them that hate him.</v>

00:54:30.800 --> 00:54:34.080
<v Speaker 3>Is a is an American that's not fair.</v>

00:54:34.080 --> 00:54:37.840
<v Speaker 3>Why would a great grandchild be punished for what the great grandfather</v>

00:54:37.840 --> 00:54:39.200
<v Speaker 3>did? That's just not fair at all.</v>

00:54:39.440 --> 00:54:41.440
<v Speaker 3>The grandkid didn't do anything.</v>

00:54:41.440 --> 00:54:42.080
<v Speaker 3>Well</v>

00:54:43.120 --> 00:54:47.440
<v Speaker 3>it's for the same reason that I inherit Adam's sin, because I</v>

00:54:47.440 --> 00:54:48.800
<v Speaker 3>came from his seed.</v>

00:54:48.800 --> 00:54:50.320
<v Speaker 3>Is that fair?</v>

00:54:50.400 --> 00:54:51.920
<v Speaker 3>I Who cares?</v>

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<v Speaker 3>That that's not a Christian principle.</v>

00:54:54.080 --> 00:54:58.800
<v Speaker 3>Fairness is not something that is applied in the Christian life at</v>

00:54:58.800 --> 00:55:04.160
<v Speaker 3>all. It is a fundamentally unfair religion where we are spared the</v>

00:55:04.160 --> 00:55:05.120
<v Speaker 3>eternal consequences</v>

00:55:06.000 --> 00:55:08.800
<v Speaker 3>of all of the wrath that we earn every day for the</v>

00:55:08.800 --> 00:55:11.920
<v Speaker 3>evil that we do, both knowingly and unknowingly.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, fairness is basically, along with niceness, one of the items, one</v>

00:55:18.640 --> 00:55:23.200
<v Speaker 2>of the actual gods of most Americans.</v>

00:55:23.200 --> 00:55:28.560
<v Speaker 2>And I always love when people make the appeal to children as</v>

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<v Speaker 2>being some sort of arbiters of morality.</v>

00:55:31.680 --> 00:55:35.520
<v Speaker 2>Because, well, even children understand fairness.</v>

00:55:35.520 --> 00:55:39.840
<v Speaker 2>One they really don't, because if you actually look at the use</v>

00:55:39.840 --> 00:55:44.160
<v Speaker 2>of that isn't fair when it comes to children, it's generally the</v>

00:55:44.160 --> 00:55:47.360
<v Speaker 2>child making an argument that he didn't get something.</v>

00:55:47.360 --> 00:55:50.400
<v Speaker 2>The that isn't fair is almost never used when he got something</v>

00:55:50.400 --> 00:55:52.480
<v Speaker 2>and someone else didn't.</v>

00:55:52.480 --> 00:55:57.920
<v Speaker 2>But also appealing to children is just completely ridiculous.</v>

00:55:57.920 --> 00:55:59.760
<v Speaker 2>Why would you appeal</v>

00:56:01.040 --> 00:56:05.680
<v Speaker 2>to this sort of understanding and morality in children when these are</v>

00:56:06.320 --> 00:56:10.000
<v Speaker 2>creatures that were not so long ago chasing their other siblings with</v>

00:56:10.000 --> 00:56:11.600
<v Speaker 2>a stick and trying to stab them.</v>

00:56:11.600 --> 00:56:14.640
<v Speaker 2>Like the morality of children is not a developed thing.</v>

00:56:14.640 --> 00:56:17.760
<v Speaker 2>Yes, there's a a degree to which the law is written in</v>

00:56:17.760 --> 00:56:22.800
<v Speaker 2>all human beings, but there's a development there before you can really</v>

00:56:22.800 --> 00:56:23.920
<v Speaker 2>understand these things.</v>

00:56:23.920 --> 00:56:26.800
<v Speaker 2>And so it's just it's a ridiculous, silly argument that so many</v>

00:56:26.800 --> 00:56:28.000
<v Speaker 2>people will try to make.</v>

00:56:28.000 --> 00:56:30.000
<v Speaker 2>Fairness isn't a thing.</v>

00:56:30.000 --> 00:56:36.240
<v Speaker 2>Fairness is nonsense drawn up by the Enlightenment and various philosophers, and</v>

00:56:36.240 --> 00:56:40.160
<v Speaker 2>then imported into the culture, and then unfortunately imported into the church,</v>

00:56:40.160 --> 00:56:43.440
<v Speaker 2>because many Christians blindly believe it, because again, they don't look to</v>

00:56:43.440 --> 00:56:47.120
<v Speaker 2>the genealogy of the things they profess.</v>

00:56:47.280 --> 00:56:50.240
<v Speaker 2>But then there's one other bit of irony that I'd like to</v>

00:56:50.240 --> 00:56:54.480
<v Speaker 2>bring up, because I just find it funny.</v>

00:56:54.480 --> 00:56:58.560
<v Speaker 2>The Jews in Christ's time got so many things about him wrong.</v>

00:56:58.560 --> 00:57:01.440
<v Speaker 2>Yes, there were those who followed him, he had disciples, some of</v>

00:57:01.440 --> 00:57:07.600
<v Speaker 2>them understood, to some degree, varying degrees, but in his hometown, they</v>

00:57:07.600 --> 00:57:10.560
<v Speaker 2>didn't understand that he was the Messiah, not even his own family</v>

00:57:10.560 --> 00:57:13.040
<v Speaker 2>understood that he was the Messiah.</v>

00:57:13.040 --> 00:57:18.080
<v Speaker 2>But the Jews in his hometown did get something right.</v>

00:57:18.080 --> 00:57:21.440
<v Speaker 2>And I'm going to turn to Matthew 13.</v>

00:57:21.440 --> 00:57:25.200
<v Speaker 2>And when Jesus had finished these parables, he went away from there,</v>

00:57:25.200 --> 00:57:29.040
<v Speaker 2>and coming to his hometown, he taught them in their synagogue, so</v>

00:57:29.040 --> 00:57:32.400
<v Speaker 2>that they were astonished and said, Where did this man get this</v>

00:57:32.400 --> 00:57:34.240
<v Speaker 2>wisdom and these mighty works?</v>

00:57:34.240 --> 00:57:36.160
<v Speaker 2>Is not this the carpenter's son?</v>

00:57:36.160 --> 00:57:38.000
<v Speaker 2>Is not his mother called Mary?</v>

00:57:38.000 --> 00:57:41.520
<v Speaker 2>And are not his brothers James and Joseph and Simon and Judas?</v>

00:57:41.520 --> 00:57:43.600
<v Speaker 2>And are not all his sisters with us?</v>

00:57:43.600 --> 00:57:46.160
<v Speaker 2>Where then did this man get all these things?</v>

00:57:46.160 --> 00:57:47.760
<v Speaker 2>And they took offence at him.</v>

00:57:47.760 --> 00:57:51.040
<v Speaker 2>But Jesus said to them, A prophet is not without honor except</v>

00:57:51.040 --> 00:57:54.000
<v Speaker 2>in his home town and his own household, and he did not</v>

00:57:54.000 --> 00:57:57.840
<v Speaker 2>do many mighty works there because of their unbelief.</v>

00:57:57.840 --> 00:58:02.000
<v Speaker 2>Did you catch what the Jews said about him?</v>

00:58:02.000 --> 00:58:05.200
<v Speaker 2>Where did this man get this wisdom in these mighty works?</v>

00:58:05.200 --> 00:58:07.840
<v Speaker 2>And then is not this the carpenter's son?</v>

00:58:07.840 --> 00:58:13.920
<v Speaker 2>They understood implicitly that the genealogy mattered, and they should understand that</v>

00:58:13.920 --> 00:58:17.600
<v Speaker 2>living where and when they did, because they should have been told</v>

00:58:17.600 --> 00:58:22.880
<v Speaker 2>what their ancestors had done by importing false beliefs, false religion, false</v>

00:58:22.880 --> 00:58:27.360
<v Speaker 2>practices from the surrounding nations that worshipped demons.</v>

00:58:27.360 --> 00:58:30.160
<v Speaker 2>They would implicitly understand this genealogy matters.</v>

00:58:30.160 --> 00:58:34.320
<v Speaker 2>They wanted to know he's speaking with authority, but where did he</v>

00:58:34.320 --> 00:58:35.120
<v Speaker 2>learn these things?</v>

00:58:35.120 --> 00:58:38.240
<v Speaker 2>What's the genealogy these ideas?</v>

00:58:38.240 --> 00:58:43.120
<v Speaker 2>They got the answer completely wrong when it comes to the fact</v>

00:58:43.120 --> 00:58:46.240
<v Speaker 2>that he got them from God because he is God.</v>

00:58:46.240 --> 00:58:50.320
<v Speaker 2>But they understood the general concept, and it's so funny to me</v>

00:58:50.320 --> 00:58:53.920
<v Speaker 2>that these people who got almost everything else wrong happened to get</v>

00:58:53.920 --> 00:58:56.400
<v Speaker 2>this one vitally important thing right.</v>

00:58:56.400 --> 00:58:59.760
<v Speaker 2>But again, it does show that you can get one vitally important</v>

00:58:59.760 --> 00:59:04.960
<v Speaker 2>thing right, say soteriology, and get a lot of other things wrong,</v>

00:59:04.960 --> 00:59:08.400
<v Speaker 2>and look at where these people most likely ended up in many</v>

00:59:08.400 --> 00:59:09.280
<v Speaker 2>cases.</v>

00:59:09.680 --> 00:59:12.320
<v Speaker 3>That's a good point, and I think that they got it right</v>

00:59:12.640 --> 00:59:16.160
<v Speaker 3>because the only reason we don't get it right today is been</v>

00:59:16.320 --> 00:59:17.840
<v Speaker 3>it's been beaten out of us.</v>

00:59:17.840 --> 00:59:21.760
<v Speaker 3>It's not it's not an evolution or a greater understanding that the</v>

00:59:21.760 --> 00:59:23.600
<v Speaker 3>Western mind has today.</v>

00:59:24.000 --> 00:59:25.360
<v Speaker 3>It's a devolution.</v>

00:59:25.600 --> 00:59:31.040
<v Speaker 3>it's a losing the basic connection with created reality.</v>

00:59:31.040 --> 00:59:31.440
<v Speaker 3>Uh</v>

00:59:32.320 --> 00:59:34.880
<v Speaker 3>and we've all fallen victim to and I have.</v>

00:59:34.880 --> 00:59:37.680
<v Speaker 3>I've I've fallen for lies in the past and I've adopted beliefs</v>

00:59:37.680 --> 00:59:40.480
<v Speaker 3>that were false and I did so with a clean conscience because</v>

00:59:40.480 --> 00:59:44.320
<v Speaker 3>I didn't I didn't examine the priors and the givens, which is</v>

00:59:44.320 --> 00:59:46.800
<v Speaker 3>why it's so important to me to warn others.</v>

00:59:46.800 --> 00:59:50.800
<v Speaker 3>Uh as we wrap this episode up, I want to tie this</v>

00:59:50.800 --> 00:59:54.160
<v Speaker 3>back to the first episode where we were talking about girls teaching.</v>

00:59:54.160 --> 00:59:58.320
<v Speaker 3>Uh I neglected to mention this in the in the previous episode,</v>

00:59:58.320 --> 01:00:01.440
<v Speaker 3>but uh there's a a man online named Matt Cochrane who's a</v>

01:00:01.520 --> 01:00:02.560
<v Speaker 3>brilliant a brilliant man.</v>

01:00:02.560 --> 01:00:05.360
<v Speaker 3>He's a very clear thinker, an outstanding writer.</v>

01:00:05.360 --> 01:00:08.560
<v Speaker 3>Uh we'll I'll link his blog in the show notes.</v>

01:00:08.560 --> 01:00:13.280
<v Speaker 3>He made a great point that he was was completely missing from</v>

01:00:13.760 --> 01:00:17.840
<v Speaker 3>all of the conversation about whether girls should be teaching theology by</v>

01:00:17.840 --> 01:00:20.240
<v Speaker 3>writing books.</v>

01:00:20.240 --> 01:00:24.880
<v Speaker 3>All of the opponents, including now the majority of pastors who call</v>

01:00:24.880 --> 01:00:30.400
<v Speaker 3>themselves confessional Lutherans, who have aligned themselves on the side of girls</v>

01:00:30.400 --> 01:00:36.240
<v Speaker 3>teaching theology do so by pointing to various passages in scripture that</v>

01:00:36.240 --> 01:00:40.320
<v Speaker 3>have been found just in the in the twentieth century to justify</v>

01:00:40.320 --> 01:00:41.200
<v Speaker 3>these things.</v>

01:00:41.200 --> 01:00:45.520
<v Speaker 3>The point that Matt made on his blog was that there is</v>

01:00:45.520 --> 01:00:51.040
<v Speaker 3>actually a particular passage in scripture that tells girls to teach, where</v>

01:00:51.040 --> 01:00:54.560
<v Speaker 3>God specifically commands the female to teach.</v>

01:00:54.560 --> 01:00:57.440
<v Speaker 3>And I want to read it to you because it's hilarious because</v>

01:00:57.440 --> 01:01:00.800
<v Speaker 3>none of the pastors who were quoting all the other p scriptural</v>

01:01:00.800 --> 01:01:06.400
<v Speaker 3>passages as proof texts to justify these girls teaching, they don't believe</v>

01:01:06.400 --> 01:01:07.200
<v Speaker 3>this passage.</v>

01:01:07.200 --> 01:01:09.680
<v Speaker 3>Listen to this from Titus II.</v>

01:01:09.680 --> 01:01:14.080
<v Speaker 3>Older women likewise are to be reverent in behavior, not slanderers or</v>

01:01:14.080 --> 01:01:15.760
<v Speaker 3>slaves to much wine.</v>

01:01:15.760 --> 01:01:18.560
<v Speaker 3>They're to teach what is good, and so train the young women</v>

01:01:18.560 --> 01:01:24.560
<v Speaker 3>to love their husbands and children, to be self-controlled, pure, working at</v>

01:01:24.560 --> 01:01:29.760
<v Speaker 3>home, kind and submissive to their own husbands, that the word of</v>

01:01:29.760 --> 01:01:32.480
<v Speaker 3>God may not be reviled.</v>

01:01:32.480 --> 01:01:38.000
<v Speaker 3>Now show me a single pastor who's cheerleading CPH publishing books of</v>

01:01:38.000 --> 01:01:42.560
<v Speaker 3>girls teaching, twenty-five year old girls teaching theology, two pastors.</v>

01:01:42.560 --> 01:01:44.480
<v Speaker 3>Find a single one of 'em that believes this.</v>

01:01:44.480 --> 01:01:48.560
<v Speaker 3>They can't, because they stand condemned by the very worse, very verse</v>

01:01:48.560 --> 01:01:51.440
<v Speaker 3>which says that these women should be at home.</v>

01:01:51.440 --> 01:01:55.600
<v Speaker 3>Now it's interesting about this, I I found on uh Google Books</v>

01:01:55.840 --> 01:01:59.040
<v Speaker 3>uh last week, I'll put this in the show notes as well.</v>

01:01:59.040 --> 01:02:02.320
<v Speaker 3>I was looking for the the history of deaconesses and and the</v>

01:02:02.320 --> 01:02:05.600
<v Speaker 3>like in the church, just 'cause I was curious, you know, are</v>

01:02:05.840 --> 01:02:09.920
<v Speaker 3>are you and I crazy, or are we the novelty seekers who</v>

01:02:09.920 --> 01:02:13.840
<v Speaker 3>are trying to end a proud church tradition.</v>

01:02:13.840 --> 01:02:17.120
<v Speaker 3>And so I found a book from the 1700s by a Catholic</v>

01:02:17.120 --> 01:02:21.120
<v Speaker 3>writer. Uh the twelfth chapter of the book is</v>

01:02:22.000 --> 01:02:25.600
<v Speaker 3>thirty pages or so the basically gives the entire history of the</v>

01:02:25.600 --> 01:02:28.160
<v Speaker 3>service of women in the church.</v>

01:02:28.160 --> 01:02:32.000
<v Speaker 3>And it begins with the the first, second, third century, where there</v>

01:02:32.000 --> 01:02:35.760
<v Speaker 3>were in fact women who were called deaconesses.</v>

01:02:35.760 --> 01:02:39.120
<v Speaker 3>But when it gives a description of what those deaconesses did, it</v>

01:02:39.120 --> 01:02:40.800
<v Speaker 3>was Titus II.</v>

01:02:40.800 --> 01:02:44.320
<v Speaker 3>Some of the original restrictions were that the woman had to be</v>

01:02:44.320 --> 01:02:45.280
<v Speaker 3>over sixty.</v>

01:02:45.280 --> 01:02:47.120
<v Speaker 3>That meant that she was menopausal.</v>

01:02:47.120 --> 01:02:50.560
<v Speaker 3>That meant she was probably a great grandmother, certainly a grandmother.</v>

01:02:51.440 --> 01:02:56.480
<v Speaker 3>And it meant that she was no longer serving in the home</v>

01:02:56.480 --> 01:02:59.280
<v Speaker 3>the way she had when she was a mother.</v>

01:02:59.280 --> 01:03:04.800
<v Speaker 3>These older women who were the the younger youngest permissible age was</v>

01:03:04.800 --> 01:03:09.840
<v Speaker 3>forty, to be a deaconess to privately teach and catechize other girls</v>

01:03:09.840 --> 01:03:14.880
<v Speaker 3>only. So it was private, it was only limited to girls being</v>

01:03:14.880 --> 01:03:19.200
<v Speaker 3>taught, and it was only older women, which was a direct reflection</v>

01:03:19.200 --> 01:03:22.960
<v Speaker 3>of this dictatum in Titus II.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>Now with the reason we talk about the genealogies of ideas, that's</v>

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<v Speaker 3>a I think a perfect microcosm.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>In the entire discussion about whether girls could be writing theological books,</v>

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<v Speaker 3>not one pastor who used scripture used this verse because this verse</v>

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<v Speaker 3>condemns them.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>It condemns the men who say the girls should be teaching when</v>

01:03:43.040 --> 01:03:48.880
<v Speaker 3>they're 25-year-olds in public teaching pastors and other Christians.</v>

01:03:48.880 --> 01:03:51.840
<v Speaker 3>There's simply no permissible Christian argument for it.</v>

01:03:51.840 --> 01:03:53.360
<v Speaker 3>And so what do they do?</v>

01:03:53.360 --> 01:03:58.480
<v Speaker 3>On one hand, they're confessional guys, they're Lutherans, they're Christian, they hew</v>

01:03:58.560 --> 01:04:01.920
<v Speaker 3>to sola scriptura, but when they find a verse they don't like,</v>

01:04:01.920 --> 01:04:03.280
<v Speaker 3>well, that's not what that means.</v>

01:04:03.280 --> 01:04:06.640
<v Speaker 3>Did God really say, No, we have a better idea, we have</v>

01:04:06.640 --> 01:04:10.080
<v Speaker 3>a new idea that we're gonna pretend is an old idea so</v>

01:04:10.080 --> 01:04:13.360
<v Speaker 3>that we can cause something to happen in the church that has</v>

01:04:13.360 --> 01:04:15.600
<v Speaker 3>never happened in its entire history.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>And that needs to end because that is Satan chipping and chipping</v>

01:04:19.600 --> 01:04:22.240
<v Speaker 3>and chipping away until we will have nothing else.</v>

01:04:22.480 --> 01:04:25.360
<v Speaker 3>We think we can cling to the cross when we despise Christ's</v>

01:04:25.360 --> 01:04:28.320
<v Speaker 3>words. If you are ashamed of God, he will be ashamed of</v>

01:04:28.320 --> 01:04:29.760
<v Speaker 3>you on judgment day.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>And I pray that no man would would feel that way because</v>

01:04:33.920 --> 01:04:37.680
<v Speaker 3>in the final judgment, it will be perfectly just and there will</v>

01:04:37.680 --> 01:04:40.880
<v Speaker 3>be many who cry out and say that they were Christians and</v>

01:04:40.880 --> 01:04:42.720
<v Speaker 3>God will say no you weren't.</v>

01:04:42.720 --> 01:04:46.880
<v Speaker 3>And that should fill any man with terror if he is acting</v>

01:04:46.880 --> 01:04:54.720
<v Speaker 3>in a way that is with a clean conscience.</v>

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I think

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<v Speaker 2>there's another verse that we probably will never see the adverse Adversary's</v>

01:04:59.680 --> 01:05:02.720
<v Speaker 2>quoting, and that would of course be the first verse of the</v>

01:05:02.720 --> 01:05:08.160
<v Speaker 2>curse God spoke to Adam in Genesis, because you have listened to</v>

01:05:08.160 --> 01:05:11.600
<v Speaker 2>the voice of your wife.</v>

01:05:11.600 --> 01:05:15.760
<v Speaker 2>And that is of course repeated other places places in Scripture, and</v>

01:05:15.760 --> 01:05:18.480
<v Speaker 2>that is hearkening back of course to headship.</v>

01:05:18.480 --> 01:05:24.320
<v Speaker 2>Adam is cursed in part because he abdicated headship, but Eve usurped</v>

01:05:24.320 --> 01:05:26.480
<v Speaker 2>it. both sinned.</v>

01:05:26.480 --> 01:05:33.680
<v Speaker 2>Neither is acceptable, and women teaching in public is a usurpation of</v>

01:05:33.680 --> 01:05:38.800
<v Speaker 2>their proper role of head, whether it be their husband, pastor, someone</v>

01:05:38.800 --> 01:05:42.560
<v Speaker 2>else in the church, this is not a proper role for women.</v>

01:05:42.560 --> 01:05:45.040
<v Speaker 2>It is not what Scripture permits them to do.</v>

01:05:45.040 --> 01:05:48.160
<v Speaker 2>It is sinful to permit it.</v>

01:05:48.160 --> 01:05:50.960
<v Speaker 2>And we absolutely need to eliminate it</v>

01:05:51.840 --> 01:05:55.360
<v Speaker 2>because we have to be true to the word of God, what</v>

01:05:55.360 --> 01:06:01.200
<v Speaker 2>God has commanded us to do and not to do.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>I agree.</v>

01:06:01.920 --> 01:06:02.480
<v Speaker 3>It's um</v>

01:06:04.640 --> 01:06:07.360
<v Speaker 3>These are battles that we are fighting because</v>

01:06:09.280 --> 01:06:11.840
<v Speaker 3>we don't see them being fought by one anyone else.</v>

01:06:12.160 --> 01:06:15.600
<v Speaker 3>there are there are pastors who are faithful and there are pastors</v>

01:06:15.600 --> 01:06:20.160
<v Speaker 3>who understand some of these things, but in most cases they're afraid</v>

01:06:20.160 --> 01:06:21.360
<v Speaker 3>to speak publicly.</v>

01:06:21.360 --> 01:06:25.760
<v Speaker 3>The only pastors who are not afraid to speak publicly against what</v>

01:06:25.760 --> 01:06:29.840
<v Speaker 3>we are saying do so slanderously and they do so with murder</v>

01:06:29.840 --> 01:06:34.320
<v Speaker 3>in their hearts and they do so in concert with the world.</v>

01:06:34.320 --> 01:06:38.000
<v Speaker 3>And it's it's sad to see that happen, but neither of us</v>

01:06:38.000 --> 01:06:42.160
<v Speaker 3>can be remotely surprised by it because again, we believe scripture.</v>

01:06:42.160 --> 01:06:46.800
<v Speaker 3>We believe God's blessings that those who are God's promises and blessings</v>

01:06:47.200 --> 01:06:50.240
<v Speaker 3>to to be hated for the sake of Christ's name is a</v>

01:06:50.240 --> 01:06:54.160
<v Speaker 3>blessing. Some days it doesn't feel like it, but that is often</v>

01:06:54.160 --> 01:06:55.680
<v Speaker 3>how God's blessings work.</v>

01:06:55.920 --> 01:06:59.200
<v Speaker 3>the thing that that hurts hurts the most in the moment may</v>

01:06:59.200 --> 01:07:02.000
<v Speaker 3>be the thing that God is He is using for the greatest</v>

01:07:02.000 --> 01:07:04.400
<v Speaker 3>benefit to to an individual.</v>

01:07:04.400 --> 01:07:04.720
<v Speaker 3>And</v>

01:07:05.920 --> 01:07:10.560
<v Speaker 3>I I encourage everyone to look to where things are coming from,</v>

01:07:10.560 --> 01:07:15.200
<v Speaker 3>to look at the roots of their own ideas of what are</v>

01:07:15.200 --> 01:07:16.160
<v Speaker 3>things based on?</v>

01:07:16.160 --> 01:07:19.120
<v Speaker 3>What you know, it's it's a zoom or trope to call things</v>

01:07:19.120 --> 01:07:20.800
<v Speaker 3>based and it's it's a great word.</v>

01:07:20.800 --> 01:07:21.840
<v Speaker 3>Something that's based.</v>

01:07:21.840 --> 01:07:22.800
<v Speaker 3>It's not cringe.</v>

01:07:23.120 --> 01:07:23.840
<v Speaker 3>It's based.</v>

01:07:23.840 --> 01:07:26.480
<v Speaker 3>It's something that is based on something.</v>

01:07:26.480 --> 01:07:29.120
<v Speaker 3>And so the show art has a a meme that I made</v>

01:07:29.120 --> 01:07:31.040
<v Speaker 3>that says based based on what?</v>

01:07:31.040 --> 01:07:33.280
<v Speaker 3>The uh eternal word of God?</v>

01:07:33.280 --> 01:07:35.280
<v Speaker 3>Yes, absolutely based.</v>

01:07:35.680 --> 01:07:39.200
<v Speaker 3>uh that is our goal with everything that we speak is to</v>

01:07:39.200 --> 01:07:42.400
<v Speaker 3>do so in a manner that is based on God's words and</v>

01:07:42.400 --> 01:07:43.920
<v Speaker 3>God's promises.</v>

01:07:43.920 --> 01:07:44.240
<v Speaker 3>And</v>

01:07:45.200 --> 01:07:48.160
<v Speaker 3>God will judge each of us for what we have done and</v>

01:07:48.160 --> 01:07:49.760
<v Speaker 3>for what we have failed to do.</v>

01:07:49.760 --> 01:07:53.680
<v Speaker 3>And And thank God that all the evil that we do is</v>

01:07:53.680 --> 01:07:56.880
<v Speaker 3>covered by Christ's blood and the good that we do is to</v>

01:07:56.880 --> 01:07:58.080
<v Speaker 3>his glory.</v>

01:07:58.080 --> 01:08:02.080
<v Speaker 3>Um but in every life there is the opportunity to do less</v>

01:08:02.080 --> 01:08:06.400
<v Speaker 3>evil and to do more good and that is a conscious choice</v>

01:08:06.400 --> 01:08:11.680
<v Speaker 3>for the believer, but it can only be made as a conscious</v>

01:08:11.680 --> 01:08:15.200
<v Speaker 3>choice when the believer is actually thinking about it.</v>

01:08:15.200 --> 01:08:18.560
<v Speaker 3>So I hope that everyone will will spend more time in the</v>

01:08:18.720 --> 01:08:22.480
<v Speaker 3>Word and to spend time in in faithful churches where they are</v>

01:08:22.480 --> 01:08:27.040
<v Speaker 3>hearing hearing the Word rightly preached and the sacraments properly administered</v>

01:08:28.000 --> 01:08:31.360
<v Speaker 3>and to to always focus on what God wants because that is</v>

01:08:31.360 --> 01:08:32.320
<v Speaker 3>a blessing.</v>

01:08:32.320 --> 01:08:36.080
<v Speaker 3>The law is not only a curse against us, but it is</v>

01:08:36.080 --> 01:08:39.760
<v Speaker 3>a guidepost to show us how to live the life that God</v>

01:08:39.760 --> 01:08:41.920
<v Speaker 3>intended for us to live in the first place.</v>

01:08:41.920 --> 01:08:45.040
<v Speaker 3>And although we can never do it perfectly in this life, we</v>

01:08:45.040 --> 01:08:47.680
<v Speaker 3>can do it better than we would have if we weren't thinking</v>

01:08:47.680 --> 01:08:49.680
<v Speaker 3>about what God wants.</v>

01:08:49.760 --> 01:08:49.920
We

01:08:49.920 --> 01:08:53.760
<v Speaker 2>often take that lex semper acusat a little too far.</v>

01:08:53.760 --> 01:08:59.120
<v Speaker 2>We morph it instead into Lex Sola Akusat, as it were.</v>

01:08:59.120 --> 01:09:04.960
<v Speaker 2>The law does not only accuse the law always accuses because so</v>

01:09:04.960 --> 01:09:07.200
<v Speaker 2>long as we are in this life we are sinners.</v>

01:09:07.360 --> 01:09:09.680
<v Speaker 2>But God's law is good.</v>

01:09:09.680 --> 01:09:13.760
<v Speaker 2>God's law has real tangible benefits.</v>

01:09:13.760 --> 01:09:18.240
<v Speaker 2>If we obey God's law, adhere to his rules and his truth,</v>

01:09:18.240 --> 01:09:20.960
<v Speaker 2>we will simply live better lives.</v>

01:09:20.960 --> 01:09:24.160
<v Speaker 2>And of course, we don't do it simply because of the reward,</v>

01:09:24.160 --> 01:09:27.520
<v Speaker 2>we do it because it is our duty to God, but it</v>

01:09:27.520 --> 01:09:30.160
<v Speaker 2>is also we were made to do this.</v>

01:09:30.160 --> 01:09:36.480
<v Speaker 2>It is properly aligning ourselves to our teleological purpose if we at</v>

01:09:36.480 --> 01:09:41.360
<v Speaker 2>least attempt to adhere to God's laws, to live our lives within</v>

01:09:41.360 --> 01:09:47.120
<v Speaker 2>the bounds that He's set, recognizing that those bounds are good.</v>

01:09:47.120 --> 01:09:47.440
<v Speaker 2>And</v>

01:09:48.560 --> 01:09:52.720
<v Speaker 2>just want to make one more point before we close out this</v>

01:09:52.720 --> 01:09:59.040
<v Speaker 2>episode, a tangentially related point to the genealogy of ideas related to</v>

01:09:59.040 --> 01:10:03.120
<v Speaker 2>looking at the source of your ideas, the things you believe, who</v>

01:10:03.120 --> 01:10:06.400
<v Speaker 2>wrote it, who advanced it, who argues for it.</v>

01:10:06.400 --> 01:10:09.440
<v Speaker 2>Look to your right and look to your left.</v>

01:10:09.440 --> 01:10:10.720
<v Speaker 2>Who is standing with you</v>

01:10:11.600 --> 01:10:13.520
<v Speaker 2>defending it?</v>

01:10:13.520 --> 01:10:16.800
<v Speaker 2>Because if you look to your right and your left and you</v>

01:10:16.800 --> 01:10:22.720
<v Speaker 2>see Satan's minions, you're probably on the wrong side of the battlefield.</v>

01:10:22.800 --> 01:10:27.280
<v Speaker 3>Absolutely. I can say for a fact that the only people on</v>

01:10:27.280 --> 01:10:32.240
<v Speaker 3>the internet who have ever hated me wanted to dox me, to</v>

01:10:32.240 --> 01:10:37.760
<v Speaker 3>cause harm to my family, to my reputation, to my career are</v>

01:10:38.080 --> 01:10:45.680
<v Speaker 3>literal Satanists, literal pedophiles, and Lutherans.</v>

01:10:45.680 --> 01:10:48.800
<v Speaker 3>And they all use the same arguments, they all use the same</v>

01:10:48.800 --> 01:10:52.640
<v Speaker 3>words they all get angry at the very same things that I've</v>

01:10:52.640 --> 01:10:54.080
<v Speaker 3>said. To a T.</v>

01:10:54.080 --> 01:10:59.440
<v Speaker 3>There's 100% overlap between what the Satanist hates about me and what</v>

01:10:59.440 --> 01:11:02.160
<v Speaker 3>some of these Lutheran pastors hate about me.</v>

01:11:02.160 --> 01:11:07.760
<v Speaker 3>And if I were the Lutherans, uh that I I I would</v>

01:11:07.760 --> 01:11:10.880
<v Speaker 3>not be able to sleep a wink until I figured out why</v>

01:11:10.880 --> 01:11:12.880
<v Speaker 3>that was and how I could fix it.</v>

01:11:12.880 --> 01:11:16.400
<v Speaker 3>But these men they do so with a clear conscience.</v>

01:11:16.400 --> 01:11:16.720
<v Speaker 3>And</v>

01:11:17.840 --> 01:11:20.720
<v Speaker 3>again, I I hope that for the sake of their souls they</v>

01:11:20.720 --> 01:11:23.760
<v Speaker 3>will will hear our words and they'll think about these things because</v>

01:11:24.400 --> 01:11:28.000
<v Speaker 3>when you are joining in lockstep with evil men</v>

01:11:28.880 --> 01:11:32.480
<v Speaker 3>You cannot sanctify the evil that you're doing by saying, Oh yeah,</v>

01:11:32.480 --> 01:11:34.080
<v Speaker 3>I'm doing it for Jesus.</v>

01:11:34.320 --> 01:11:37.760
<v Speaker 3>And frankly, that's uh I think the your last comments and my</v>

01:11:37.760 --> 01:11:40.800
<v Speaker 3>last comments are a great plug for next week's episode, which is</v>

01:11:40.800 --> 01:11:42.800
<v Speaker 3>going to be about Christian nationalism.</v>

01:11:42.800 --> 01:11:49.440
<v Speaker 3>Because Because Christian nationalism is the synthesis of obedience to God, allying</v>

01:11:49.440 --> 01:11:56.080
<v Speaker 3>with God's people in opposition to evildoers, because we will have a</v>

01:11:56.080 --> 01:11:58.960
<v Speaker 3>lot to say about the Two kingdoms Doctrine and the the Three</v>

01:11:58.960 --> 01:12:05.200
<v Speaker 3>Estates and the misrepresent representations made about things like the term Christian</v>

01:12:05.200 --> 01:12:11.360
<v Speaker 3>nationalism online, but the very The very same pastors who hate us</v>

01:12:11.920 --> 01:12:17.520
<v Speaker 3>are again in lockstep with the most evil people on the planet.</v>

01:12:17.520 --> 01:12:19.200
<v Speaker 3>And I'm not saying that lightly.</v>

01:12:19.200 --> 01:12:21.920
<v Speaker 3>I'm not saying the pastors in the and the other Lutherans and</v>

01:12:21.920 --> 01:12:24.560
<v Speaker 3>other Christians are the most evil people on the planet.</v>

01:12:24.560 --> 01:12:26.880
<v Speaker 3>I'm saying they are best friends with them.</v>

01:12:26.880 --> 01:12:31.600
<v Speaker 3>On this issue and on other issues, they are in lockstep with</v>

01:12:31.600 --> 01:12:32.320
<v Speaker 3>Satan.</v>

01:12:33.600 --> 01:12:37.120
<v Speaker 3>If you care about where your ideas come from and you realize</v>

01:12:37.120 --> 01:12:40.400
<v Speaker 3>that all of your allies are the people who are going to</v>

01:12:40.400 --> 01:12:42.160
<v Speaker 3>hell, pause.</v>

01:12:42.160 --> 01:12:43.680
<v Speaker 3>Just hit the pause button.</v>

01:12:43.680 --> 01:12:47.280
<v Speaker 3>Take a look at where you got those ideas because you you</v>

01:12:47.280 --> 01:12:49.120
<v Speaker 3>are on a path to hell.</v>

01:12:49.120 --> 01:12:51.360
<v Speaker 3>And I I don't want that for anyone.</v>

01:12:51.360 --> 01:12:54.320
<v Speaker 3>I don't want it for the people who are going to have</v>

01:12:54.320 --> 01:12:55.360
<v Speaker 3>it happen anyway.</v>

01:12:55.360 --> 01:12:58.560
<v Speaker 3>And I certainly don't want it to happen to people who have</v>

01:12:58.720 --> 01:13:02.080
<v Speaker 3>confessed Christ in this life and who believe the creeds and the</v>

01:13:02.080 --> 01:13:05.360
<v Speaker 3>confessions and have mostly led good lives.</v>

01:13:05.360 --> 01:13:09.520
<v Speaker 3>But when it comes to these modern issues where there is silence</v>

01:13:09.520 --> 01:13:16.800
<v Speaker 3>in the historical record from the Christian Reformation on, people who adopt</v>

01:13:16.800 --> 01:13:21.280
<v Speaker 3>these new ideas find that they are bedfellows with demons.</v>

01:13:21.280 --> 01:13:21.600
<v Speaker 3>And</v>

01:13:22.640 --> 01:13:24.800
<v Speaker 3>it that's only in one of two ways.</v>

01:13:24.800 --> 01:13:27.680
<v Speaker 3>Either you get out of bed or you are gonna sleep there</v>

01:13:27.680 --> 01:13:32.480
<v Speaker 3>in eternity.</v>