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<v Speaker 1>It is the 7th of August 2026.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>I am Corey J.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Mahler and this is at any cost.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>This is episode 37, a Q<unk>A episode.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>I will just check quickly to make sure my levels are good</v>

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<v Speaker 1>on a couple platforms here.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sure someone will let me know in the chat if my</v>

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<v Speaker 1>levels are not, of course.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>I updated OBS right before starting, so hopefully that will make things</v>

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<v Speaker 1>a little smoother.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>But I don't really have any housekeeping tonight except to say that</v>

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<v Speaker 1>I have been away from my desk for just about a week,</v>

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<v Speaker 1>so I did not have time to get into any of the</v>

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<v Speaker 1>more we'll say complex questions on the pending list, so I will</v>

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<v Speaker 1>probably focus more on the chat tonight, in addition to a few</v>

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<v Speaker 1>quick questions from the forum.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Before I get into the questions, I did want to note that</v>

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<v Speaker 1>I did see the question about someone who previously practiced witchcraft and</v>

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<v Speaker 1>some things related to that.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>I will get into that one next week because I want to</v>

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<v Speaker 1>dedicate a little bit more time to that one before I answer</v>

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<v Speaker 1>it. But getting into the questions.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Question one.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Do the devil and his minions mimic proper worship?</v>

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<v Speaker 1>As the devil and his minions only corrupt and not create, correct,</v>

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<v Speaker 1>do they mimic rightful worship and introduce corruptions and perversions, rather than</v>

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<v Speaker 1>actually creating new worship methods?</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Should we be worried this may have happened in Rome in the</v>

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<v Speaker 1>East, or that it could be happening in our churches today?</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Are there any forms of worship he cannot corrupt?</v>

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<v Speaker 1>So of course, it is correct to stay off the bat that</v>

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<v Speaker 1>yes, Satan cannot create.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>And this actually goes to some issues that came up recently, but</v>

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<v Speaker 1>this is tangentially related to the issue of original sin, because original</v>

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<v Speaker 1>sin is not man's nature.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>This was it the names of the heresies don't matter that much</v>

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<v Speaker 1>when they're ones like these.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>You know, everyone knows the big ones, Arianism, things like that, but</v>

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<v Speaker 1>you can ignore the name so I won't even bother to mention</v>

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<v Speaker 1>it. But But there have been men who have contended, heretics who</v>

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<v Speaker 1>have contended that after the fall, the nature of man is original</v>

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<v Speaker 1>sin. And the problem with that is it would be to say</v>

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<v Speaker 1>that Satan is our creator, because it would be to say that</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Satan is the creator of</v>

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<v Speaker 1>man's nature.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>And so that's obviously false.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>He's not the creator of man's nature.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Rather, what he has done is he has infused, as it were,</v>

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<v Speaker 1>a corruption into man's nature.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>There are many ways you can speak about original sin.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>And that is just a corruption.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>It's a perversion.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>It's not a substance.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>It's not an actual thing, as it were, because everything is created</v>

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<v Speaker 1>by God, every substance, every essence.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>And so</v>

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<v Speaker 1>those are good.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>And so mankind's nature even after the fall is good.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>But to get into the question itself, which is again tangentially related,</v>

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<v Speaker 1>worship is good.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>All of the forms of worship of God that God has created,</v>

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<v Speaker 1>and He has created these forms of worship, they are good things.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Now, we can't really create a form of worship of God because</v>

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<v Speaker 1>it wouldn't be worship of God, right?</v>

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<v Speaker 1>The ways you worship God are things He has told you to</v>

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<v Speaker 1>do. You worship God by obeying His law, you worship God by</v>

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<v Speaker 1>helping your neighbor, you worship God with prayer.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>These are things God has instituted.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>And Satan can corrupt those, he can misdirect them, he can mislead</v>

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<v Speaker 1>you. He cannot actually create any form of worship.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>So y it's absolutely correct to say that yes, the forms of</v>

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<v Speaker 1>worship he has created are perversions of the ones that God created.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>So a good example here and is brought up there's some additional</v>

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<v Speaker 1>text in this after this question for the reasoning.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>If you'd like to read that, it's on the forum, but yes,</v>

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<v Speaker 1>the asherah and things like that are all corruptions of worship.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>In particular, Satan likes to corrupt sort of echoes of worship from</v>

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<v Speaker 1>all the way back in the garden.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>One of the things that is often overlooked in the Garden of</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Eden narrative, everyone tends to think that it was just one tree</v>

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<v Speaker 1>in the center of the garden.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>The thing is the word there can be mean can be taken</v>

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<v Speaker 1>to mean tree or type of tree.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>So it may have been a sacred grove.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>It probably was a sacred grove.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>And so you don't have to believe that, right?</v>

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<v Speaker 1>It doesn't change your faith if you believe it or not.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>But we see echoes of that in the corruptions that took place</v>

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<v Speaker 1>in many places where they planted so-called sacred groves.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>And then those were to worship false gods.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>So they were doing something that they heard via telephone basically from</v>

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<v Speaker 1>their ancient ancestors, from what Adam and Eve were supposed to do</v>

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<v Speaker 1>in the garden, and Satan turned that to the worship of evil.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Human sacrifice is the same way.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>There are a number of ways you can get to human sacrifice.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Either you can corrupt the sacrifice of animals, which was part of</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Old Testament worship, or you can corrupt the narrative of Abraham, right?</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Abraham and Isaac.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>That's essentially what's happening there.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>And so the logic is almost sound, right?</v>

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<v Speaker 1>But it's sound in that sort of demonic way where the thing</v>

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<v Speaker 1>you're doing is inherently evil.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>And so even if it seems to have a veneer of rationality</v>

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<v Speaker 1>to it, it's ultimately wrong.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>And the reason it has that veneer is okay, if I sacrifice</v>

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<v Speaker 1>the first of my flocks, the first fruits, right, that's giving something</v>

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<v Speaker 1>expensive, costly, meaningful to God.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Well what could be more expensive, costly, and meaningful than my firstborn</v>

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<v Speaker 1>son? That's basically the logic of the pagan cults that practice particularly</v>

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<v Speaker 1>sacrifice of the firstborn son for human sacrifices.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>And of course, that's extremely dysgenic, among other things, and it's part</v>

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<v Speaker 1>of the reason those populations look the way they do today.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>But yes, Satan is definitely corrupting worship.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>And the way that you avoid it is you know the kinds</v>

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<v Speaker 1>of worship that God approves and you stay within those bounds.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Right? God has music in the scriptures.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Now, I do argue and I believe that there should be some</v>

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<v Speaker 1>level of decorum with regard to music, and there's an article on</v>

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<v Speaker 1>my website about that.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>But music is part of God's worship.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Liturgy is part of God's worship.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Look at all of his worship in the Old Testament.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>It's all structured.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>It doesn't mean all worship has to be structured, but the formal</v>

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<v Speaker 1>worship of God in church should be liturgical.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>You see the use of written prayers, memorized prayers.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>That's what the Psalter ultimately is.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>It's a combination of prayers and hymns, as we would call them.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Christ teaches his apostles, his disciples, a prayer.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>We should use that one.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>It's the Lord's prayer.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>As a Christian, you should be praying that one multiple times a</v>

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<v Speaker 1>day. If God gives you a specific prayer and says, I want</v>

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<v Speaker 1>to hear this one, you're not going to create a better one.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>He gave you the best one.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>It doesn't mean you use exclusively that prayer.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>It doesn't mean you repeat it mindlessly, but you use it, because</v>

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<v Speaker 1>it's a gift from God we can use to worship him.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>So as long as you stay within these boundaries that God is</v>

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<v Speaker 1>set, and your worship is directed toward God, right, that's kind of</v>

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<v Speaker 1>a key here, You don't need to be worried about going off</v>

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<v Speaker 1>the rails with regard to forms of worship.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>You worry about it when you start creating your own forms of</v>

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<v Speaker 1>worship, or you start worshiping something other than God.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>So that's what Satan wants you to do.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>He wants you to do something that seems good and you go</v>

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<v Speaker 1>off the rails, or he wants you to outright worship another God,</v>

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<v Speaker 1>even if you're using something that looks kind of like worship of</v>

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<v Speaker 1>the one true God, or even would be opp proper worship, if</v>

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<v Speaker 1>it were directed at God instead of this other thing.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>That's the witchcraft question which I will save for next week.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Question two.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>This is actually sort of the inverse of a question that I</v>

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<v Speaker 1>answered in my chat, I think, just about a week ago, a</v>

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<v Speaker 1>little more than that.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>So, question two.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>I am a Roman Catholic and my boyfriend is L C Meth</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Lutheran. We intend on getting married, and I am somewhat alright with</v>

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<v Speaker 1>becoming Lutheran.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Because I feel as though I am submitting to my future husband,</v>

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<v Speaker 1>and after hearing your episode on the Lord's Supper and having my</v>

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<v Speaker 1>boyfriend explain Lutheranism, it makes more sense to me.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>I'm scared of becoming Lutheran, however, because when I converted to the</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Roman Catholic Church, I confessed that it was the one true Church.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>I'm afraid that converting to Lutheranism would mean I am breaking a</v>

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<v Speaker 1>confession I made to God.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>It doesn't help that I am being told by Catholics in my</v>

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<v Speaker 1>church that I will go to hell if I convert.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>What reassurance do I have that I will not go to hell</v>

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<v Speaker 1>for converting and that I am not wrong in leaving the one</v>

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<v Speaker 1>true church as they believe it to be as she believed it</v>

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<v Speaker 1>to be.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>This came up actually in like I said in the inverse in</v>

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<v Speaker 1>my chat recently, because there was a woman asking if she would</v>

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<v Speaker 1>be wrong to follow her husband and attend the Roman Catholic Church</v>

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<v Speaker 1>because he's Roman Catholic and wants her to attend that church.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>And I said no.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>And I know there'll be Lutherans that are angry at me for</v>

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<v Speaker 1>that. And I just admonished her, focus on Christ.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Christ is your righteousness.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Christ is the reason you are saved.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>So, you know, in if you're going from whatever to Rome, don't</v>

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<v Speaker 1>go all in on the Mary stuff, don't go all in on</v>

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<v Speaker 1>the saints stuff, but there are plenty of very good Christians in</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Roman Catholic churches.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>As a Lutheran, I staunchly disagree with some things they do.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>I would go so far as to agree with the confession, of</v>

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<v Speaker 1>course, that some of the things they do are blasphemous.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>That doesn't mean that I think they're all damned.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>And with regard to going from Rome to Lutheranism, of course, I'm</v>

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<v Speaker 1>going to say that I don't have the same doctrinal problems, obviously.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>That's the reason that I'm a Lutheran.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>But I would start out by saying what is the church?</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Right? And so as a Lutheran, when you become a Lutheran, you</v>

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<v Speaker 1>can of course appeal to the confession then which has a very</v>

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<v Speaker 1>clear statement of that.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>You have the small called articles and that is article twelve in</v>

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<v Speaker 1>part three.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>So I'll just pull that up.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>And actually I will just pull this up</v>

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<v Speaker 1>May as well pull it up in a browser window here because</v>

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<v Speaker 1>so you can read along if you are watching this instead of</v>

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<v Speaker 1>listening. So in the small articles, Article twelve of the church.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>We do not concede to them, speaking of course about Rome, that</v>

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<v Speaker 1>they are the church, and in truth they are not the church,</v>

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<v Speaker 1>nor will we listen to those things which under the name of</v>

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<v Speaker 1>church they enjoin or forbid, and here's the key part of this</v>

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<v Speaker 1>that I wanted to really read.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>For thank God today a child seven years old knows what the</v>

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<v Speaker 1>church is, namely the holy believers and lambs who hear the voice</v>

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<v Speaker 1>of their shepherd.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>For the children pray thus, I believe in one holy Christian church.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>And holy and Catholic I know there are some people who will</v>

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<v Speaker 1>complain about whether you say holy Christian or Holy Catholic Church in</v>

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<v Speaker 1>the Creed.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Both have been used for centuries.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>The Germans in the Reformation did not start doing Christian instead of</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Catholic. I learned it as Catholic Kirsche.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't learn it as Catholic Church in German when I learned</v>

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<v Speaker 1>it in German.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>I learned it in English first.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>But</v>

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<v Speaker 1>so</v>

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<v Speaker 1>don't let someone take you down that particular rabbit trail, there's no</v>

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<v Speaker 1>real difference there.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>But they mean the same thing.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>When it comes to the church, the church is all believers.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>I've said this many times before, but it bears repeating probably to</v>

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<v Speaker 1>the point where people get tired of hearing it, which is good.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>They should want to hear it that many times.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Adam was a Christian, never a part of Rome.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>David's a Christian, never a part of Rome, right?</v>

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<v Speaker 1>And I can keep listing these men.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Abraham, Christian, never part of Rome.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Japheth, when he walked off the ark, Christian, never part of Rome.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>His sons, undoubtedly Christians, never part of Rome.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Rome didn't exist for thousands of years after these men were part</v>

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<v Speaker 1>of the church.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>So the church cannot be limited to Rome.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Because the church isn't Rome.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>The claims of Rome with regard to being the church are the</v>

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<v Speaker 1>same as the claims of the Eastern Orthodox and so many others.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>They're just false on their face.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Because who are the sheep?</v>

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<v Speaker 1>The sheep are those who hear the master's voice.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Are all the sheep in Rome?</v>

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<v Speaker 1>No, because there are true Christians outside Rome.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Even incidentally, you can use this with Roman Catholics, you mileage may</v>

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<v Speaker 1>vary, but Rome no longer says that those outside Rome are necessarily</v>

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<v Speaker 1>damned. That they gave up on that argument a very long time</v>

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<v Speaker 1>ago. The extra ecclesia no lasalis, right?</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Outside the church there is no salvation.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>They gave up on that a long time ago.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>They specifically said that some Lutherans they'll you know, not say every</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Lutheran, because they don't even believe every Roman Catholic is saved, right?</v>

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<v Speaker 1>But they will say that some Lutherans are indeed saved.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>The same for some Anglicans, some reformed, others as well.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>So that is even in Rome, their current doctrine does not say</v>

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<v Speaker 1>that you are damned if you are not part of Rome.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>So you don't have to be part of any corporate body to</v>

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<v Speaker 1>be saved.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>You have to be part of Christ's Church.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>And again, Christ's Church is all those lambs who hear the Master's</v>

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<v Speaker 1>voice. So yes, you can be a Christian and be in a</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Roman Catholic Church, you can be in a Lutheran church, you can</v>

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<v Speaker 1>be in an Anglican church, you can be a Presbyterian church.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Some have better theology, some have worse.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>But one of the things, of course, that comes into it is</v>

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<v Speaker 1>felicitous inconsistency, so if you don't believe the things these other churches</v>

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<v Speaker 1>teach that are false, they don't harm you.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>It's better if you're not exposed to them, right?</v>

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<v Speaker 1>But if you don't believe them ultimately, you hold on to Christ</v>

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<v Speaker 1>and the faith that is the free gift from God, that's what</v>

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<v Speaker 1>justifies you, then you're Christian.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Just because you're attending a church that is heterodox dogmatically, doctrinally, theologically,</v>

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<v Speaker 1>does not mean you're going to be damned.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>The standard is not perfection theologically.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>The standard is the free gift of faith and holding on to</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Christ. So just cling to Christ.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Perhaps you'll like the</v>

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<v Speaker 1>famous comment from Luther's wife, I will cling to Christ like a</v>

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<v Speaker 1>bird of cloth.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>So just take comfort in that.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>You don't need to worry about going from Rome to a Lutheran</v>

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<v Speaker 1>church. You don't y lose your salvation for that.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>You're not damned for it.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>You're still a baptized child of God.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>You still have your faith.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>You're just going to have different ceremonies.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, there are doctrinal and dogmatic differences and things like that.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>I believe the Lutheran stance is correct.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>But anyone telling you that you're going to be damned for doing</v>

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<v Speaker 1>that is completely out of line.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>That's inappropriate.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>And like I said, I just advised a woman that if she</v>

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<v Speaker 1>is going to obey her husband in attending a Roman Catholic church</v>

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<v Speaker 1>with him, she's not damned for that either.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Granted, I gave different admonishments in that case than I would going</v>

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<v Speaker 1>from Rome to Lutheranism, but I'm not going to say that she's</v>

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<v Speaker 1>damned for it because she's not.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Because again, the sheep are those who hear the master's voice.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Pull up the next question here</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Getting some strange chat messages on another platform, so I will just</v>

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<v Speaker 1>skip over those.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Let's see.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Thankfully the chat I believe anyway is working tonight.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>That's why I restarted the stream because the OBS chat was not</v>

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<v Speaker 1>working, but I but I do have it working now.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>At least I see messages coming in, so I assume it's working.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>I'll pull out the first question here from the chat.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>My question is how does one obtain this is question four I</v>

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<v Speaker 1>should say, how does one obtain power in a godly way and</v>

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<v Speaker 1>maintain it when maintenance means deception and dealing and managing parties and</v>

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<v Speaker 1>people that actively seek to destroy you.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>You almost have that contained there in actually this is question three</v>

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<v Speaker 1>rather. I swapped two questions around on my notepad here.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>The AI transcript can deal with that.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>It's their problem, not mine.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>But when it comes to power, you sort of answered the question</v>

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<v Speaker 1>for yourself there, right?</v>

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<v Speaker 1>If you have these individuals surrounding you, well that's the problem.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>The problem isn't maintaining power, the problem is how you maintain power.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>It's It's removing these wicked parties from around you.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>You should think of perhaps Pro Proverbs twenty five.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>I'll pull up the verse here on my screen.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>I I won't show it since we're just reading one verse.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Proverbs twenty five vers v five.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Cut off the impious from the presence of the king, and his</v>

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<v Speaker 1>throne will be established in righteousness.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Well, there's the recommendation of how you maintain power properly in a</v>

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<v Speaker 1>government. You remove the wicked.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>You don't let them stick around.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>You don't let them cause you these problems.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>So</v>

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<v Speaker 1>if you have a righteous government and you have righteous advisors, there's</v>

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<v Speaker 1>nothing wrong with power.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Power does not corrupt.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>That statement is dumb.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>And it's mostly used by those who want to undermine rightful authority</v>

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<v Speaker 1>and hierarchy and cause chaos.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>So discord.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>And nor does absolute power corrupt absolutely, because that's perhaps even a</v>

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<v Speaker 1>dumber statement.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Power may attract the corruptible and the corrupt, but it does not</v>

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<v Speaker 1>corrupt. It may give you the ability to give in to corruption</v>

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<v Speaker 1>that is already present in you, your own predilections, your own perhaps</v>

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<v Speaker 1>besetting sins, whatever it happens to be.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Money does the same thing, right?</v>

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<v Speaker 1>There's certain vices you can't really indulge if you don't have the</v>

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<v Speaker 1>money to indulge them.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>So the same thing is true with regard to poor.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>But the fact that power does not corrupt means that you don't</v>

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<v Speaker 1>have to have this system of elaborate safeguards that you think are</v>

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<v Speaker 1>going to keep people from causing problems with regard to power because</v>

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<v Speaker 1>that's not how it works.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>And also the safeguards don't work for other reasons that perhaps get</v>

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<v Speaker 1>into another time.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>But on the other hand, a king is going to deal with</v>

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<v Speaker 1>the kind of men who are corrupt and attracted to power.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>And he has to deal with them.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>But scripture's pretty clear about how you deal with wicked men.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>If you're the king, you destroy them.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>So you don't just let them hang around and give you bad</v>

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<v Speaker 1>advice and cause you problems and torment your people and you know</v>

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<v Speaker 1>generally be a nuisance.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>You get rid of them, and you make sure that you have</v>

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<v Speaker 1>righteous men in government doing what is right.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>That's possible.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>There have been good governments historically.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>There have even been good governments that weren't Christian governments because being</v>

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<v Speaker 1>a Christian is not a requirement to be good in the earthly</v>

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<v Speaker 1>sense of good, right?</v>

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<v Speaker 1>You can obey the moral law without being a Christian.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>You don'll get credit for it because you're not in Christ.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>You're still a sinner.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>I've gone into that before, I won't go into it right now.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>But you can be a good person, you can have a good</v>

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<v Speaker 1>government, you can run your state well without being a Christian.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Being a Christian doesn't mean that you can't do that, doesn't change</v>

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<v Speaker 1>how you go about doing it, at least not very much.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Because you're dealing in earthly reality, you're dealing in fleshly reality, you're</v>

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<v Speaker 1>dealing in concrete problems with regard to the kingdom of the left</v>

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<v Speaker 1>hand, not the kingdom of the right hand.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>So</v>

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<v Speaker 1>the only people who really think that power is a problem and</v>

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<v Speaker 1>claim to be Christians are like the Anabaptists who say you can't</v>

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<v Speaker 1>without sin hold public office and things like that.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>And that's explicitly condemned in the Lutheran confessions, and elsewhere I believe</v>

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<v Speaker 1>some of the Reformed confessions di condemn that as well.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>So it's just power and Christianity aren't incompatible.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>There are those who've tried to argue they are, but thou those</v>

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<v Speaker 1>are bad actors.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>They want Christians not to be in power because they want evil</v>

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<v Speaker 1>men to be in power.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>So cut off the impious from the presence of the king is</v>

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<v Speaker 1>the answer from scripture and completely sufficient.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>So let me pull up some more questions here.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>If more questions come in the chat, I'll probably mostly focus on</v>

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<v Speaker 1>the chat tonight, like I said, but I also have quite a</v>

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<v Speaker 1>list of questions from which I can draw at this point.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>What is the Christian case for physiognomy?</v>

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<v Speaker 1>there's a question.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>This is one of those questions where I could certainly go into</v>

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<v Speaker 1>it at some length and in some depth, but Uh to some</v>

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<v Speaker 1>degree we really went over that and sort of covered it not</v>

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<v Speaker 1>ex sort of extensively or certainly not comprehensively, but we covered it</v>

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<v Speaker 1>in the series on race for Stone Choir.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Because obviously that is going to come up in the racial context,</v>

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<v Speaker 1>generally speaking.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>But the reason that physiognomy, and for those who don't know, it's</v>

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<v Speaker 1>basic looking at the physical characteristics of a person and being able</v>

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<v Speaker 1>to divine or discern things from the physical characteristics back to, say,</v>

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<v Speaker 1>personality, disposition, things like that.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>The reason that you can do that is because the human being</v>

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<v Speaker 1>is a gestalt, right?</v>

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<v Speaker 1>You are something that is greater than the sum of the parts.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>You are not just your body, your flesh, you're not just your</v>

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<v Speaker 1>spirit, you're not just your mind, you're all of those together and</v>

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<v Speaker 1>more for being the sum of those things greater than the sum</v>

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<v Speaker 1>of those things.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>So</v>

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<v Speaker 1>there is part of the underlying, the spiritual or the mental reality</v>

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<v Speaker 1>that is going to show through in the flesh.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>And it's not just a one-way The one-way street.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>It's a feedback loop because as the flesh becomes degenerate and corrupt,</v>

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<v Speaker 1>it influences the soul and the mind as well.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>We don't know exactly how that works because God didn't tell us,</v>

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<v Speaker 1>and we don't have instruments to test the soul.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>But we know that it happens because we can look at populations,</v>

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<v Speaker 1>we can look at history, we can look at individuals to some</v>

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<v Speaker 1>degree. Yes, they're outliers with regard to individuals, but when you're speaking</v>

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<v Speaker 1>about these things, you're talking about more like population level statistics, things</v>

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<v Speaker 1>like that.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>We can look at those realities and see that, yes, you can</v>

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<v Speaker 1>actually tell to some degree things like criminality and intelligence from how</v>

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<v Speaker 1>a man looks.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>And that's perfectly in line with how God designed the world.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Because insofar as you deviate from what God wanted you to be,</v>

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<v Speaker 1>now it's not the deviation is not due to you personally exclusively,</v>

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<v Speaker 1>because much of it is due to the wicked actions of your</v>

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<v Speaker 1>ancestors, right?</v>

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<v Speaker 1>And the fact we live in a fallen world and accumulating corruption,</v>

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<v Speaker 1>degeneration, things like that.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>But the way that you look and the degree to which that</v>

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<v Speaker 1>deviates from what God again wanted you to be, is the result</v>

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<v Speaker 1>of sin.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>And that sin does not affect just the flesh again, it affects</v>

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<v Speaker 1>also the mind and the spirit.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Soul, whichever term you want to use.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>And so</v>

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<v Speaker 1>those go hand in hand, down through history.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>And so you can look at it physically in a person's features,</v>

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<v Speaker 1>how far he is from that thing, and extrapolate it to the</v>

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<v Speaker 1>mind and the soul.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>And generally speaking the connection holds.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Like I said, there are outliers.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>We're talking more about population level truth here than individual, because an</v>

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<v Speaker 1>individual could have, you know, a mutation during the very early stages</v>

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<v Speaker 1>of pregnancy, right?</v>

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<v Speaker 1>You can have some very unfortunate mutation that can lead to something</v>

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<v Speaker 1>that that individual is severely disfigured.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>That's less an issue of physiognomy, which should be applied more to</v>

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<v Speaker 1>that population level truth as it is just bad luck essentially.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>In so in the Christian sense of luck, which I won't get</v>

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<v Speaker 1>into right now.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>But yes, absolutely physiognomy makes perfect sense for Christians, aligns with what</v>

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<v Speaker 1>we know about God's creation, and is a valid tool.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>It's not, you know, the absolute source of all truth, but that's</v>

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<v Speaker 1>never the case with any of this stuff.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>But it is a source of truth.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Just copying some things into</v>

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<v Speaker 1>my notes here so that I will have those in the show</v>

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<v Speaker 1>notes. We'll have to make someone else do it.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>I had someone jokingly asked me, so I will not number this</v>

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<v Speaker 1>question, but is studying German grammar a good way to exacerbate hair</v>

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<v Speaker 1>loss? I think probably there are worse languages for that, but I</v>

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<v Speaker 1>guess it depends on if you enjoy German or not, because stress</v>

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<v Speaker 1>will actually cause you to lose more hair, so</v>

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<v Speaker 1>jokingly, I guess perhaps the answer is yes.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Pull up my backlog of questions here.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>we go To decide if I want to answer this question right</v>

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<v Speaker 1>now.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>I'll give a preliminary answer to this one.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>I may not answer it fully because this is a one of</v>

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<v Speaker 1>those complex ones that</v>

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<v Speaker 1>I may address at greater length in the future.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>But I question five.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>I had a friend argue that the Lord's words from the cross</v>

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<v Speaker 1>speaking of Christ, why have you forsaken me, mean that he is</v>

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<v Speaker 1>not all-knowing, I did not know how to respond to that.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>So</v>

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<v Speaker 1>let me just drop that into the show notes here.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>That was not Christ saying that he didn't understand what was going</v>

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<v Speaker 1>on. That was Christ doing really one thing but in two senses.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>It's fulfilling prophecy.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Because this was prophesied of the Christ, that he would be forsaken,</v>

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<v Speaker 1>he would be cursed, he would become a curse for us, and</v>

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<v Speaker 1>he would suffer the punishment that was rightly ours, which is what</v>

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<v Speaker 1>he was doing.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>During his entire earthly ministry, which we call the state of humiliation,</v>

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<v Speaker 1>but certainly in intensity with his sacrifice on the cross.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>This came up in a recent debate, perhaps, and one side was</v>

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<v Speaker 1>very wrong about it.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>So</v>

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<v Speaker 1>we do not know the exact specifics of how</v>

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<v Speaker 1>this works, right?</v>

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<v Speaker 1>How is one person of the Trinity</v>

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<v Speaker 1>forsaken and how does he become the propitiation for our sins on</v>

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<v Speaker 1>the cross?</v>

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<v Speaker 1>We can say some things about it, but we can't understand it</v>

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<v Speaker 1>fully. Because when you try to understand this fully, what you get</v>

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<v Speaker 1>into is the intimate details of the incarnation itself, right?</v>

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<v Speaker 1>This is something into which the angels long to look and cannot</v>

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<v Speaker 1>because they can't understand it.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>That sort of truth is reserved for God.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>It's something we can't fully understand.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>We can see and we can believe God that Jesus Christ is</v>

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<v Speaker 1>fully man, fully God, one person, two natures.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>We can affirm the things that are said in the creeds and</v>

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<v Speaker 1>that are pulled directly from Scripture, and then we have to accept</v>

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<v Speaker 1>their limitations to our reason.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>The reason that Christ had to be</v>

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<v Speaker 1>the payment for our sins on the cross, and the reason that</v>

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<v Speaker 1>it is ultimately penal substitutionary atonement, which I may get into.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>I know I have a pending question about that as well somewhere</v>

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<v Speaker 1>here. The reason that Christ had to do it is because the</v>

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<v Speaker 1>debt of sin that we owe to God is infinite.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>The only thing that can pay an infinite debt is an infinite</v>

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<v Speaker 1>sum. We being finite can never pay an infinite amount, right?</v>

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<v Speaker 1>You know, say you're working for ten dollars an hour, which isn't</v>

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<v Speaker 1>unusual in the US unfortunately, but say you're doing that, right?</v>

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<v Speaker 1>How long would it take you to pay an infinite amount?</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Make it a thousand, make it a million dollars an hour, it</v>

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<v Speaker 1>will still take you eternity.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Because you are finite and you're doing something that is finite.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Christ, being fully God, was infinite, is infinite, and so his sacrifice</v>

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<v Speaker 1>fulfilled the law, the righteous demands of the law, in your place,</v>

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<v Speaker 1>and you are counted righteous when you're in Christ.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>So he is forsaken in the sense that he is cut off</v>

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<v Speaker 1>and punished in our place and for us, and that's all we</v>

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<v Speaker 1>need to be able to say about his words.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Because that is what he was doing at the time.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>We don't have to understand exactly how it worked because we can't.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>This is the infinite God doing something that is above and beyond</v>

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<v Speaker 1>us, and we thank him for it because he did it for</v>

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<v Speaker 1>our sake.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>So it's not saying that he's not omniscient.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>This is a fulfillment of prophecy, and a fulfillment of what was</v>

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<v Speaker 1>necessary for our salvation.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>But yes, this is one of those things that the Aryans tried</v>

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<v Speaker 1>to bring up and argue that Christ was not truly God, which</v>

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<v Speaker 1>the problem if obviously is I just explained, if he's not truly</v>

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<v Speaker 1>God, his sacrifice wouldn't be of infinite value.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>And like then he'd just be another guy.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>If I die on a cross, it doesn't benefit you no matter</v>

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<v Speaker 1>what I say.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Right? Because I'm just a man.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>He has to be both man and God.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Just make a note for myself here.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Excuse me.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Someone asked me a question about Nietzsche.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>I think I will save that one.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>People trying to make me get into the polemical topics comparing John</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Calvin and Nietzsche.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>I already answered the question about speaking in tongues previously, so I'll</v>

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<v Speaker 1>just comment briefly on that one here.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Speaking in tongues is a gift from God.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>And it is one of the signed gifts that accompanied the early</v>

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<v Speaker 1>part of the church.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>This is question six, if I didn't say that.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>And it was made basically to go give God's imprimatur, right?</v>

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<v Speaker 1>To give God's stamp of approval on the apostles he had chosen</v>

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<v Speaker 1>He had chosen to spread his word and other men who were</v>

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<v Speaker 1>speaking his truth at the time amongst the early Christians in the</v>

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<v Speaker 1>early church.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>The signed gifts are much rarer these days because they fulfilled their</v>

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<v Speaker 1>purpose in the early church.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>God is just not doing that as much anymore.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>It's not to say that there are no miracles.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Lutherans are not cessationists, there are cessationists, I think they're wrong, I</v>

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<v Speaker 1>think they're obviously wrong, but we aren't.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>So So could God suddenly give you the ability to speak Romanian</v>

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<v Speaker 1>if you had the opportunity to talk to a Romanian group about</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Christ? Sure, he could do that.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>These days, I guess he doesn't really need to, since we have</v>

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<v Speaker 1>live translation, but it would certainly show something, right?</v>

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<v Speaker 1>The miracle would prove something.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>So that does at least can still happen.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>God's not, you know, his arm isn't foreshortened.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>He isn't unable to do that.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>But the admonitions in scripture are important with regard to speaking in</v>

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<v Speaker 1>tongues. One, tongues are human languages.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>That's what tongue means.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>It even means that in English still, it's just an archaic sense</v>

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<v Speaker 1>that has fallen out of usage amongst most modern English speakers.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>But right now I'm speaking the English tongue.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Earlier I said a couple words in the German tongue.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>It just means language.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>So</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Someone just gibbering incoherent nonsense is not speaking in tongues.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>He's gibbering incoherent nonsense.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>We have mental wards full of people who do that all the</v>

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<v Speaker 1>time. They're not speaking in tongues.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Paul admonishes things to be done in order and not to do</v>

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<v Speaker 1>it unless there's an interpreter.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Well, if there's an interpreter, you're interpreting a human language, right?</v>

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<v Speaker 1>So that's really all speaking in tongues is the Pentecostal churches get</v>

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<v Speaker 1>it wrong because they want to</v>

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<v Speaker 1>have some sign of some kind that makes them feel special.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>And right, a wicked generation seeks for a sign, so don't fall</v>

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<v Speaker 1>into that trap.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>I don't remember if I answered this one previously or not.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>So I will answer I know I've touched on quite many questions</v>

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<v Speaker 1>similar to this one, but I'll go ahead and answer it just</v>

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<v Speaker 1>in case I have not answered this specific one in the past.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>It's a quick one.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Question seven, how should we respond to miscegenation within the church?</v>

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<v Speaker 1>So the general answer to this is that it is not really</v>

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<v Speaker 1>the place of the church to deal with it, because this is</v>

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<v Speaker 1>something that is handled by the state.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>This is the left hand of Christ, not the right hand of</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Christ, first and foremost.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>And so this should be the Christian prince handling this, which just</v>

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<v Speaker 1>means the rightful ruler.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Preferably it is a monarch instead of a president or prime minister</v>

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<v Speaker 1>as we currently have, but you do the best you can with</v>

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<v Speaker 1>what you have.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Within the church, I don't think that it is wrongful if a</v>

00:34:53.840 --> 00:34:59.040
<v Speaker 1>church restricts, and I think that actually a church should, restrict membership</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Actual membership, so in the case of men, voting membership if that's</v>

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<v Speaker 1>a thing in your church, which I think voting is fine for</v>

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<v Speaker 1>certain things, not for you know everything.</v>

00:35:08.160 --> 00:35:10.960
<v Speaker 1>But to restrict that to members of the nation.</v>

00:35:10.960 --> 00:35:13.600
<v Speaker 1>And that's one of the things that was done in National Socialist</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Germany. Only members of the nation could be members of at least</v>

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<v Speaker 1>certain of the churches.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>You could attend if you were not a member of the nation</v>

00:35:22.080 --> 00:35:25.280
<v Speaker 1>because you weren't cut off from, you know, word and sacrament a</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Christian who is a different race isn't a non-Christian.</v>

00:35:29.600 --> 00:35:31.440
<v Speaker 1>You can be a different race than a Christian.</v>

00:35:31.440 --> 00:35:33.840
<v Speaker 1>You're just a Christian of a different race.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>So whether or not you're in the country is a question for</v>

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<v Speaker 1>the kingdom of the left hand of Christ, for the magistrate.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>But the magistrate should say that you can't be member of the</v>

00:35:45.680 --> 00:35:49.680
<v Speaker 1>church, an actual member of the church, which I Which I hope</v>

00:35:49.680 --> 00:35:52.320
<v Speaker 1>everyone knows the difference between a member and just attending.</v>

00:35:52.320 --> 00:35:54.560
<v Speaker 1>So you can't be a member of the church without being member</v>

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<v Speaker 1>of the nation.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>That's perfectly fine.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>I have no problem with individual churches these days enforcing that, because</v>

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<v Speaker 1>granted, you know, modulo, talk to your attorney on that one, but</v>

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<v Speaker 1>the state's not going to enforce it right now.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>So this is something that you address by dealing with membership at</v>

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<v Speaker 1>the church level, because that's the only thing the church has in</v>

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<v Speaker 1>the in this area because again primarily a matter for the magistrate,</v>

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<v Speaker 1>not for the the priest or the pastor, or the bishop for</v>

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<v Speaker 1>that matter.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>See someone just joined the forum, so I will go ahead and</v>

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<v Speaker 1>approve that just in case he wanted to ask a question that</v>

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<v Speaker 1>way. Then I'll pull up the next question here.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>The chat on my end has not refreshed for a little bit,</v>

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<v Speaker 1>so I don't know if it's working.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>So I'm also going to pull up the chat in</v>

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<v Speaker 1>the web interface for restream to make sure that it did not</v>

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<v Speaker 1>suddenly stop working again.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Tech gremlins.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>They are</v>

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<v Speaker 1>unending. And the web interface</v>

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<v Speaker 1>shows</v>

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<v Speaker 1>One tenth of the messages I've received so far.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>That's helpful.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Great.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>I will just keep pulling from the the backlog of questions in</v>

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<v Speaker 1>that case.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>I have quite the backlog of difficult questions at this point, some</v>

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<v Speaker 1>of which have to be worded carefully in how I answer them</v>

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<v Speaker 1>on a live stream.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Someone asked about my favorite gun.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>I've answered that one before, but I do generally like either 9mm</v>

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<v Speaker 1>or 10.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Other ones are fine.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not gonna be the the crazy guy who's you know hiking</v>

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<v Speaker 1>with a desert eagle.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not quite a boomer.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>I'm half the age of the boomer, so</v>

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<v Speaker 1>I'll go ahead and answer a question about communion.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>So since maybe it'll be a theme tonight of making certain amongst</v>

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<v Speaker 1>the other Lutherans annoyed with me.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Question eight.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>From which denominations churches in the USA may a confessional Lutheran accept</v>

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<v Speaker 1>communion these days?</v>

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<v Speaker 1>LCMH church LCMS churches are hard to come by in some regions,</v>

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<v Speaker 1>that is very true.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>An Anglican church I visited declared in their bulletin that those who</v>

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<v Speaker 1>believe in the real presence were welcome to commune.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Historically, and in the overwhelming majority, we are going</v>

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<v Speaker 1>to tell you do not commu do not commune at other churches</v>

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<v Speaker 1>because</v>

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<v Speaker 1>it is viewed as one of two ways, really.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>One would be ascent to their theology of the real presence or</v>

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<v Speaker 1>the lack of the real presence in say the case of the</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Baptists, and therefore would be you making a false declaration publicly, or</v>

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<v Speaker 1>it would be condemned as giving your approval to their false dogma,</v>

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<v Speaker 1>their false theology, and so it would be rejected on the grounds</v>

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<v Speaker 1>of potentially leading brothers astray by you holding out, you know, an</v>

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<v Speaker 1>affirmation of what they believe, or at least not condemning it in</v>

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<v Speaker 1>the way that people think that you should, right?</v>

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<v Speaker 1>So</v>

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<v Speaker 1>the issue there</v>

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<v Speaker 1>I understand why they make that argument.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>But at the same time, I don't think that it is always</v>

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<v Speaker 1>necessarily wrongful.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>I think ultimately to give you the short answer, I think it's</v>

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<v Speaker 1>a matter of conscience.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>You shouldn't commute at a Baptist church because they flatly deny the</v>

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<v Speaker 1>real presence, so you don't want to be party to what they're</v>

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<v Speaker 1>doing. The Anglicans are one of the edge cases, one of the</v>

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<v Speaker 1>reasons I picked the question because you mentioned the Anglicans.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>So I wouldn't s give a blanket condemnation.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not going to say it's wrong for you to do so.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>I think it is a matter of conscience.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>And I think the difference there is whether you view it as</v>

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<v Speaker 1>you are holding out or assenting to the their dogma with regard</v>

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<v Speaker 1>to the real presence, or if instead what you are doing is</v>

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<v Speaker 1>emphasizing, I believe these men are Christian brothers, and I am partaking</v>

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<v Speaker 1>of the Lord's Supper with Christian brothers And you're not making that</v>

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<v Speaker 1>statement about their dogma, their theology, their stance on the real presence,</v>

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<v Speaker 1>because obviously we do disagree with the way the Anglicans formalize it.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Because theirs is sort of more like the Reformed than what we</v>

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<v Speaker 1>believe. So there's a difference between what we would n if we</v>

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<v Speaker 1>were being very specific, we would call it the Sacramental Union to</v>

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<v Speaker 1>distinguish our belief from the Reformed view of the real presence, but</v>

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<v Speaker 1>they do believe in a form of presence.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>So I be that's basically what my answer would have to be.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>It's a matter of conscience and do you view it as assenting</v>

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<v Speaker 1>to what you believe is error as a Lutheran, or are you</v>

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<v Speaker 1>rather affirming that you do indeed believe they are Christian brothers?</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Because I think both of those views are legitimate.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Ideally, yes, you attend an LCMS church and you don't have this</v>

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<v Speaker 1>problem, but if you're attending an Anglican church, I'm not going to</v>

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<v Speaker 1>say that you're just flat out condemned because you communed there.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Because you still have that faith in the proper understanding of the</v>

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<v Speaker 1>real presence.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>The elements are there, the words of Christ are spoken.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>What Christ told us to do is being followed.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>And to some degree, whether those other men believe something that is</v>

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<v Speaker 1>in error or not Or not is between them and Christ.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>So</v>

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<v Speaker 1>if you view it as participating in their error, refrain.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>If you view it as affirming they are Christian brothers, commune.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>It's a matter of conscience.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Someone asked a question about the Mogdeburg confession.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>For that, I would just say go listen to the episode from</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Stone Choir for that.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>I think we pretty much covered that other than I mean if</v>

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<v Speaker 1>you want a just a blunt answer, are we sort of in</v>

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<v Speaker 1>circumstances where that comes into play?</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Absolutely yes, which we did say that in the episodes.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>I would say go listen to the episode for that one.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>That's not really uh a numbered question, just a sort of a</v>

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<v Speaker 1>quick aside</v>

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<v Speaker 1>a string of questions about psychology, which maybe I'll save those for</v>

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<v Speaker 1>an episode with a theme</v>

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<v Speaker 1>See if I can find that question about oh I have</v>

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<v Speaker 1>several questions on X that just showed up.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Some questions on X are from a crazy person, so I will</v>

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<v Speaker 1>skip those.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>No need to burden the stream with those.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>I think I will pull up instead.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>I had a question from someone about like I said PSA, so</v>

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<v Speaker 1>let me pull that one up.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>I sort of touched on this because I</v>

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<v Speaker 1>spoke in reply to an earlier question about the punishment on the</v>

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<v Speaker 1>cross, the nature of that with regard to Christ being forsaken, the</v>

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<v Speaker 1>fulfillment of prophecy.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>And And</v>

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know that I really want to get into the morass</v>

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<v Speaker 1>of the Eastern misconception with regard to the penalty paid by Christ</v>

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<v Speaker 1>on the cross.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Penal substar sub penal substitutionary atonement is the gospel.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>And so denying it is denying the gospel is to be damned.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>That is the baseline there.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>I guess I'll just make this sort of a</v>

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<v Speaker 1>short bit on penal substitutionary atonement.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>That can be question nine.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>So</v>

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<v Speaker 1>penal substitutionary atonement, as the phrase itself kind of rather heavily implies,</v>

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<v Speaker 1>is that there is a juridical, which is say legal or judicial</v>

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<v Speaker 1>aspect to core aspect to what is going on with Christ's earthly</v>

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<v Speaker 1>ministry, his submission, his fulfilling of the law, and ultimately his death</v>

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<v Speaker 1>and conquering sin, death, and the devil, his resurrection.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Right. And bear in mind, he says it is finished, so it's</v>

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<v Speaker 1>finished on the cross.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>After that point, it is his triumph, right?</v>

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<v Speaker 1>That is not yet the state of exaltation, but he is finished</v>

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<v Speaker 1>the state of humiliation, he's completed his work.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>So the descent into hell and things like that are after that</v>

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<v Speaker 1>state of humiliation, because Christ says it is finished.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>He did not say it's almost finished.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>But with regard to penal substitutionary atonement, the penal part I explained,</v>

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<v Speaker 1>substitutionary, Christ is the substitute.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Christ is the sacrificial lamb.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>He's taking your place with his perfect life and his death on</v>

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<v Speaker 1>the cross.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Because remember it's not just the death on the cross.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>He fulfilled the law with his perfect life.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>That was a necessary part of it.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>He had a full earthly ministry, not just, you know, one very</v>

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<v Speaker 1>bad day at the end.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>All of it's important.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>It's all the state of humiliation, it's all the fulfillment of the</v>

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<v Speaker 1>righteous demands of the law.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>And you have</v>

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<v Speaker 1>this juridical language all throughout the scriptures.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>The words for it are all legal terms in the Greek and</v>

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<v Speaker 1>you can look them up.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>I obviously don't have all of this prepared so I won't get</v>

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<v Speaker 1>too technical right now.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>But you can get into the family of words that deals with</v>

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<v Speaker 1>being righteous, with righteousness, that deals with being justified.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>These are legal terms with legal definitions and when the Greek speaking</v>

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<v Speaker 1>audience of the early church heard these words, they had no doubt</v>

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<v Speaker 1>what was being said, because the Greek wor the Greek world knew</v>

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<v Speaker 1>what a court was.</v>

00:47:16.240 --> 00:47:18.800
<v Speaker 1>They knew what court proceedings were.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>They knew what it meant to be declared guilty or not guilty</v>

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<v Speaker 1>or whatever it happened to be.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>These were not foreign concepts to them.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>So the forensic justification, as particularly those who oppose the correct</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Western view like to call it, is actual scripture.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>You are not made righteous by virtue</v>

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<v Speaker 1>of the declaration, right?</v>

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<v Speaker 1>This is not to say that God's words are ineffective.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>It's not to say that the things that God declares do not</v>

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<v Speaker 1>come to pass by his having spoken them.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Right, that is the reason that for instance the creation, right?</v>

00:48:00.960 --> 00:48:03.840
<v Speaker 1>God speaks creation into being.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>The problem with the East and some others as well is they</v>

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<v Speaker 1>don't understand the system that God is using.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Christ is the propitiation.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Christ is the payment for the debt that is rightfully yours, because</v>

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<v Speaker 1>He suffered, He fulfilled and suffered the things that you were supposed</v>

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<v Speaker 1>to fulfill and that you should have suffered.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>So that's been paid, but it is credited to you via faith.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>And so faith is the means that God uses to make to</v>

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<v Speaker 1>make you righteous.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>First, you are made righteous in the judicial sense of declared righteous</v>

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<v Speaker 1>for the sake of Christ's work.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Justification. That's the one and done.</v>

00:48:46.080 --> 00:48:47.680
<v Speaker 1>That's monergism.</v>

00:48:47.680 --> 00:48:50.480
<v Speaker 1>God did everything, you just benefit.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Then there is sanctification which takes place in this life when you</v>

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<v Speaker 1>start to believe.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>You become progressively more righteous.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>That does not finish in this life because you are still burdened</v>

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<v Speaker 1>by living in a fallen world, among fallen people, in corrupt fallen</v>

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<v Speaker 1>flesh. That doesn't go away until you are finally and fully regenerated</v>

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<v Speaker 1>in the resurrection of the just.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>And then you are glorified.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>And so you can think of the golden chain from Romans 8,</v>

00:49:24.480 --> 00:49:26.320
<v Speaker 1>right? the whole way that it works.</v>

00:49:26.720 --> 00:49:31.200
<v Speaker 1>There's the election, there's calling, there's justification, there's sanctification.</v>

00:49:31.200 --> 00:49:33.120
<v Speaker 1>That's the process how it works.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>It plays out with regard to God's decree of election in eternity</v>

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<v Speaker 1>past, with the means of grace in time and then glorification in</v>

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<v Speaker 1>eternity future.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>That's the short version of this.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>And the reason that you have to understand that it is penal</v>

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<v Speaker 1>substitutionary atonement isn't just all of the juridical language.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>And I'm not talking about, you know, three examples.</v>

00:49:55.680 --> 00:50:00.160
<v Speaker 1>I'm talking about 80, 90 examples of this occurring in scripture.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>This is all over the place, abundantly clear.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>You cannot get rid of it because everything else breaks down if</v>

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<v Speaker 1>you try to make some other theory of the atonement be your</v>

00:50:14.560 --> 00:50:15.840
<v Speaker 1>core understanding.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>And that's a key point in this.</v>

00:50:18.000 --> 00:50:21.440
<v Speaker 1>We don't deny Christ as victor.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>We don't deny that Christ is a model of moral behavior and</v>

00:50:27.280 --> 00:50:28.400
<v Speaker 1>moral living.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>We don't deny these other theories of atonement.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>We don't deny ransom theories.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>They're not the core.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>The core is penal substitutionary atonement.</v>

00:50:39.200 --> 00:50:42.800
<v Speaker 1>The core is that you are accused by the law because the</v>

00:50:42.800 --> 00:50:46.560
<v Speaker 1>law has righteous demands placed upon you Upon you by God your</v>

00:50:46.560 --> 00:50:49.920
<v Speaker 1>Maker. You are his creature, you owe him that.</v>

00:50:49.920 --> 00:50:51.360
<v Speaker 1>You failed.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Having failed, the law has punishments that you should rightly suffer, you</v>

00:50:56.640 --> 00:51:01.440
<v Speaker 1>will not suffer them, because Christ paid for them as your substitute.</v>

00:51:01.440 --> 00:51:05.520
<v Speaker 1>He atoned for them, he atoned for you.</v>

00:51:05.520 --> 00:51:07.520
<v Speaker 1>That's the gospel.</v>

00:51:07.520 --> 00:51:10.720
<v Speaker 1>If you jettison that, you have removed the heart of the Christian</v>

00:51:10.720 --> 00:51:13.920
<v Speaker 1>faith and you are no longer Christian.</v>

00:51:13.920 --> 00:51:17.760
<v Speaker 1>That is why I find it so important to condemn the dogma,</v>

00:51:17.760 --> 00:51:22.880
<v Speaker 1>the theology of the East, because their whole thing, mostly among the</v>

00:51:22.880 --> 00:51:27.840
<v Speaker 1>converted ox in the West, is because they have left their former</v>

00:51:27.840 --> 00:51:31.520
<v Speaker 1>faith and now hate it, they attack the part that is the</v>

00:51:31.520 --> 00:51:32.080
<v Speaker 1>core of it.</v>

00:51:32.080 --> 00:51:35.440
<v Speaker 1>The problem is they're attacking the gospel itself.</v>

00:51:35.440 --> 00:51:38.560
<v Speaker 1>And that's the reason that I've said bluntly that they are damned.</v>

00:51:38.560 --> 00:51:43.360
<v Speaker 1>If you deny that, you have denied Christ and you are damned.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Period. There is no way around that you can't mince words with</v>

00:51:47.200 --> 00:51:51.280
<v Speaker 1>that because if you mince words you are going to damn others</v>

00:51:51.280 --> 00:51:54.720
<v Speaker 1>by letting them walk the same path.</v>

00:51:54.720 --> 00:51:55.040
<v Speaker 1>So</v>

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<v Speaker 1>that's the overview of penal substitutionary atonement.</v>

00:51:58.800 --> 00:52:02.320
<v Speaker 1>I'm not going to get into essence energies distinction tonight.</v>

00:52:02.320 --> 00:52:05.600
<v Speaker 1>Honestly, I don't really even ever want to get into it because</v>

00:52:05.600 --> 00:52:09.280
<v Speaker 1>it's just a morass of nonsensical philosophy.</v>

00:52:09.280 --> 00:52:12.240
<v Speaker 1>We got into it to some degree in the episode on Eastern</v>

00:52:12.240 --> 00:52:16.000
<v Speaker 1>Orthodoxy. I get into it in my article on my website about</v>

00:52:16.000 --> 00:52:19.680
<v Speaker 1>Eastern Orthodoxy, so listen to that, read the article.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>I think that's sufficient.</v>

00:52:22.320 --> 00:52:27.360
<v Speaker 1>It gets to be somewhat technical philosophy that most men don't ever</v>

00:52:27.360 --> 00:52:28.160
<v Speaker 1>need to hear.</v>

00:52:28.160 --> 00:52:31.440
<v Speaker 1>The The short version is just that it creates a real distinction</v>

00:52:31.440 --> 00:52:33.600
<v Speaker 1>in God, and for those who don't know what that is, a</v>

00:52:33.600 --> 00:52:36.240
<v Speaker 1>real distinction means that God is composed of parts.</v>

00:52:36.240 --> 00:52:40.320
<v Speaker 1>If God is composed of parts, he's not simple in the philosophical</v>

00:52:40.320 --> 00:52:43.280
<v Speaker 1>sense, and what you've done with that real distinction if you you've</v>

00:52:43.360 --> 00:52:48.560
<v Speaker 1>created multiple deities because that which is truly distinct isn't unitary, it's</v>

00:52:48.560 --> 00:52:52.480
<v Speaker 1>not one thing, and therefore you're polytheist.</v>

00:52:52.480 --> 00:52:53.520
<v Speaker 1>That's the short version.</v>

00:52:53.920 --> 00:52:57.840
<v Speaker 1>If you didn't understand that, doesn't matter.</v>

00:52:57.840 --> 00:53:03.760
<v Speaker 1>Because unless you are thinking about swimming the Bosphorus, it's utterly irrelevant.</v>

00:53:03.760 --> 00:53:11.120
<v Speaker 1>But it is heretical because it's polytheist.</v>

00:53:34.160 --> 00:53:38.640
<v Speaker 1>My My replies on X are full of insane people asking things</v>

00:53:38.640 --> 00:53:41.520
<v Speaker 1>that are potentially criminal in some of those cases.</v>

00:53:41.520 --> 00:53:45.680
<v Speaker 1>So I think I will stick with my backlog of questions then.</v>

00:53:45.680 --> 00:53:55.600
<v Speaker 1>Seems like a better plan.</v>

00:53:55.680 --> 00:53:58.160
<v Speaker 1>Question about psychoanalysis.</v>

00:53:58.400 --> 00:54:01.680
<v Speaker 1>I've answered that one previously, so I would just refer to previous</v>

00:54:01.680 --> 00:54:03.840
<v Speaker 1>episodes. The short version is that</v>

00:54:04.880 --> 00:54:10.400
<v Speaker 1>psychology more generally, but psychoanalysis specifically has valuable insights.</v>

00:54:10.560 --> 00:54:13.920
<v Speaker 1>I guess this is question ten as it were, but it'll be</v>

00:54:13.920 --> 00:54:18.240
<v Speaker 1>short. However, cum granulis right, take it with a grain of salt,</v>

00:54:18.240 --> 00:54:23.840
<v Speaker 1>because a lot of those men, particularly Freud, were evil, anti-Christian, in</v>

00:54:23.840 --> 00:54:27.120
<v Speaker 1>Freud's case a Jew, ungodly men.</v>

00:54:27.120 --> 00:54:32.800
<v Speaker 1>And so even if they had some insights that were correct, it's</v>

00:54:32.800 --> 00:54:36.640
<v Speaker 1>not necessarily worth sorting through all of the other stuff that is</v>

00:54:36.640 --> 00:54:42.400
<v Speaker 1>either nonsense or outright wicked in order to find the bits that</v>

00:54:42.400 --> 00:54:43.920
<v Speaker 1>had some value.</v>

00:54:43.920 --> 00:54:45.600
<v Speaker 1>Jung is different.</v>

00:54:45.600 --> 00:54:47.920
<v Speaker 1>There's a lot of good stuff in his writings.</v>

00:54:47.920 --> 00:54:53.040
<v Speaker 1>There's also some Eastern mysticism and things like that that are not</v>

00:54:53.040 --> 00:54:57.280
<v Speaker 1>beneficial and Christians should generally avoid.</v>

00:54:57.280 --> 00:55:00.000
<v Speaker 1>This sorta gets into a larger topic that I don't want to</v>

00:55:00.000 --> 00:55:03.680
<v Speaker 1>get into right now, but the short version is just because a</v>

00:55:03.680 --> 00:55:09.440
<v Speaker 1>man isn't 100% right or always perfect doesn't mean we can't benefit</v>

00:55:09.440 --> 00:55:13.040
<v Speaker 1>from the parts of his work when he was correct, where he</v>

00:55:13.040 --> 00:55:14.720
<v Speaker 1>did good things, right?</v>

00:55:15.280 --> 00:55:20.080
<v Speaker 1>This desire to say, well, you can read that man but all</v>

00:55:20.080 --> 00:55:22.880
<v Speaker 1>these caveats, or like I like his work butt and then all</v>

00:55:22.880 --> 00:55:23.120
<v Speaker 1>these cop</v>

00:55:24.400 --> 00:55:28.320
<v Speaker 1>it should never be the assumption that a recommendation of something or</v>

00:55:28.320 --> 00:55:33.680
<v Speaker 1>a lack of a condemnation of something is an implied argument that</v>

00:55:33.680 --> 00:55:36.880
<v Speaker 1>the man or the source of the book, whatever is perfect, right?</v>

00:55:37.120 --> 00:55:39.600
<v Speaker 1>Again, fallen world, fallen men.</v>

00:55:39.600 --> 00:55:41.840
<v Speaker 1>We're not dealing with perfection.</v>

00:55:41.840 --> 00:55:47.200
<v Speaker 1>But yes, there are some valuable insights in the field of psychoanalysis,</v>

00:55:47.200 --> 00:55:52.560
<v Speaker 1>and it's not all just evil anti Christian Jews.</v>

00:55:52.560 --> 00:55:53.760
<v Speaker 1>But some of it is.</v>

00:55:53.760 --> 00:55:54.080
<v Speaker 1>So</v>

00:55:54.960 --> 00:55:55.920
<v Speaker 1>you have a conscience.</v>

00:55:56.400 --> 00:55:58.400
<v Speaker 1>God has given you that.</v>

00:55:58.400 --> 00:56:02.400
<v Speaker 1>Compare what you see to scripture when Scripture speaks to it and</v>

00:56:02.640 --> 00:56:03.920
<v Speaker 1>rely on your conscience.</v>

00:56:03.920 --> 00:56:07.040
<v Speaker 1>There's and if this is only if you have some reason to</v>

00:56:07.040 --> 00:56:08.000
<v Speaker 1>deal with this stuff, right?</v>

00:56:08.000 --> 00:56:11.360
<v Speaker 1>If you have no reason to deal With psychoanalysis, I don't know</v>

00:56:11.360 --> 00:56:12.320
<v Speaker 1>why you'd be reading it.</v>

00:56:12.320 --> 00:56:15.760
<v Speaker 1>It's not like it's a hobby or enjoyable.</v>

00:56:15.760 --> 00:56:19.280
<v Speaker 1>And maybe for some men, but I think unless you're working in</v>

00:56:19.280 --> 00:56:24.240
<v Speaker 1>the field, you probably don't need to be reading these things.</v>

00:56:24.240 --> 00:56:29.040
<v Speaker 1>And just to make sure that I'm clear, there are things Christians</v>

00:56:29.040 --> 00:56:30.000
<v Speaker 1>should never read, right?</v>

00:56:30.000 --> 00:56:32.800
<v Speaker 1>There are evil works that should not exist and no one should</v>

00:56:32.800 --> 00:56:37.360
<v Speaker 1>read. I don't think that psychoanalysis is in that category.</v>

00:56:43.440 --> 00:56:46.480
<v Speaker 1>Immediately scroll and see another question about Nietzsche, which it's almost the</v>

00:56:46.480 --> 00:56:47.440
<v Speaker 1>same answer, right?</v>

00:56:47.440 --> 00:56:54.000
<v Speaker 1>There's value, but also insanity and nonsense at times.</v>

00:56:54.000 --> 00:57:02.480
<v Speaker 1>Same is true of most philosophers.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Let me see here.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Answer a few more questions since I have not eaten dinner yet,</v>

00:57:14.800 --> 00:57:19.360
<v Speaker 1>and it is Eight o'clock here, so.</v>

00:57:19.360 --> 00:57:22.400
<v Speaker 1>But if anyone has any more questions, I would recommend you get</v>

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<v Speaker 1>them into the chat now because I think I'll only answer maybe</v>

00:57:25.680 --> 00:57:30.640
<v Speaker 1>two or three more for this stream.</v>

00:57:40.640 --> 00:57:44.560
<v Speaker 1>And yes, I do know that I have a backlog of some</v>

00:57:44.560 --> 00:57:50.080
<v Speaker 1>questions from last week, week before last week, but like I said,</v>

00:57:50.080 --> 00:57:54.880
<v Speaker 1>I have been away from my desk for a week and did</v>

00:57:54.880 --> 00:57:58.320
<v Speaker 1>not have time to really get any of that done this past</v>

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<v Speaker 1>week.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Another question about Eastern Orthodoxy.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>I think I've probably said enough about Eastern Orthodoxy recently that most</v>

00:58:22.000 --> 00:58:25.280
<v Speaker 1>men probably have a pretty good idea of my views and why</v>

00:58:25.280 --> 00:58:28.160
<v Speaker 1>I hold them and again we did the episode on that and</v>

00:58:28.160 --> 00:58:31.280
<v Speaker 1>I wrote an article on it which I will make a note</v>

00:58:31.280 --> 00:58:33.680
<v Speaker 1>for myself to link that article.</v>

00:58:49.120 --> 00:58:51.920
<v Speaker 1>Someone asked about the proper understanding of ecclesiastes.</v>

00:58:51.920 --> 00:58:54.160
<v Speaker 1>I think I'd like to save that one for maybe just a</v>

00:58:54.160 --> 00:58:55.680
<v Speaker 1>a stream specifically on that.</v>

00:58:55.680 --> 00:58:58.480
<v Speaker 1>That's one of my favorite books in scripture, so</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Of cour my drink is dripping on me</v>

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<v Speaker 1>What is the Christian position on insurance, both as a concept and</v>

00:59:23.200 --> 00:59:26.320
<v Speaker 1>as And as the industry exists today.</v>

00:59:26.320 --> 00:59:32.240
<v Speaker 1>So I guess this is question ten.</v>

00:59:32.240 --> 00:59:37.360
<v Speaker 1>This is another one of those where historically if you were to</v>

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<v Speaker 1>ask, actually, this is question 11 because I answered that question about</v>

00:59:40.560 --> 00:59:43.600
<v Speaker 1>psychoanalysis briefly.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Historically, and this includes a number of Lutheran writers, in particular, I</v>

00:59:47.920 --> 00:59:51.840
<v Speaker 1>can think uh Volter, C of W Volter, wrote about this at</v>

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<v Speaker 1>one point.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Many of them opposed things like life insurance and things like that</v>

00:59:57.120 --> 01:00:01.600
<v Speaker 1>on the grounds of it being a lack of trust in God</v>

01:00:02.160 --> 01:00:07.040
<v Speaker 1>and also some of the corrupting aspects of it and things like</v>

01:00:07.040 --> 01:00:13.360
<v Speaker 1>that. I would agree with them under the same circumstances in which</v>

01:00:13.360 --> 01:00:15.280
<v Speaker 1>they were operating.</v>

01:00:15.280 --> 01:00:20.560
<v Speaker 1>But today I think that generally speaking, it is often a wise</v>

01:00:20.560 --> 01:00:26.320
<v Speaker 1>thing to insure the things that it makes sense to insure, right?</v>

01:00:26.320 --> 01:00:29.200
<v Speaker 1>Like your vehicle should be insured.</v>

01:00:29.200 --> 01:00:33.040
<v Speaker 1>If you are a man who works in a risky job and</v>

01:00:33.040 --> 01:00:36.400
<v Speaker 1>you are the sole provider for your family, which is often the</v>

01:00:36.400 --> 01:00:39.680
<v Speaker 1>case, you should probably have life insurance.</v>

01:00:39.680 --> 01:00:43.200
<v Speaker 1>You know, I have insurance on various things as well, right?</v>

01:00:43.200 --> 01:00:47.440
<v Speaker 1>Like the phone that I'm using right now as my camera.</v>

01:00:47.440 --> 01:00:49.280
<v Speaker 1>I have insurance on that.</v>

01:00:49.280 --> 01:00:55.200
<v Speaker 1>I don't think that insurance is necessarily inherently wrongful.</v>

01:00:55.200 --> 01:01:00.400
<v Speaker 1>I think that the industry itself is deeply evil and it operates</v>

01:01:00.400 --> 01:01:06.240
<v Speaker 1>in a way that is pernicious, undermining, causes all sorts of harm</v>

01:01:06.240 --> 01:01:07.840
<v Speaker 1>in society.</v>

01:01:08.240 --> 01:01:12.080
<v Speaker 1>I I can't change that system myself, right?</v>

01:01:12.080 --> 01:01:13.840
<v Speaker 1>I don't have that power.</v>

01:01:13.840 --> 01:01:20.400
<v Speaker 1>So if I don't insure my iPhone, right, against damage, loss, theft,</v>

01:01:20.400 --> 01:01:25.920
<v Speaker 1>and it gets stolen, then I've harmed myself in a way that</v>

01:01:25.920 --> 01:01:32.160
<v Speaker 1>I could have prevented, and I haven't achieved anything concrete toward some</v>

01:01:32.160 --> 01:01:33.600
<v Speaker 1>other end.</v>

01:01:33.600 --> 01:01:36.400
<v Speaker 1>So there is a degree of rationality that has to play a</v>

01:01:36.400 --> 01:01:40.800
<v Speaker 1>role in how we make our decisions here in time under the</v>

01:01:40.800 --> 01:01:43.920
<v Speaker 1>circumstances under which we live.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>So I don't again, I don't think that given the reality that</v>

01:01:48.400 --> 01:01:53.360
<v Speaker 1>insurance is wrongful just to own for Christians.</v>

01:01:53.360 --> 01:01:55.920
<v Speaker 1>So yes, I think that there are times where you should insure</v>

01:01:55.920 --> 01:02:01.200
<v Speaker 1>things. If we had a proper government government that was operated in</v>

01:02:01.200 --> 01:02:05.840
<v Speaker 1>a better way, I think the insurance field, the entire industry would</v>

01:02:05.840 --> 01:02:08.880
<v Speaker 1>be alm it would you'd have to call it a new thing</v>

01:02:08.960 --> 01:02:12.720
<v Speaker 1>almost, because it would be so unlike what we have today.</v>

01:02:12.720 --> 01:02:15.920
<v Speaker 1>That would be a goal, a future goal, right?</v>

01:02:15.920 --> 01:02:20.400
<v Speaker 1>A Christian government, a Christian prince should seek to implement those changes</v>

01:02:20.640 --> 01:02:24.880
<v Speaker 1>to have the industry be something that is in line with Christian</v>

01:02:24.880 --> 01:02:29.600
<v Speaker 1>teaching. So not practic practicing usury for one, but that gets into</v>

01:02:29.600 --> 01:02:33.120
<v Speaker 1>the bigger issue of having to reform banks, because ultimately we're talking</v>

01:02:33.120 --> 01:02:36.000
<v Speaker 1>about banks, we're talking about insurance.</v>

01:02:36.000 --> 01:02:39.600
<v Speaker 1>So I think that just the summary is again to say, yes,</v>

01:02:39.600 --> 01:02:43.040
<v Speaker 1>it's fine to ensure the things that make sense to ensure these</v>

01:02:43.040 --> 01:02:48.000
<v Speaker 1>days, but on the longer scale and the grander scheme, as Christians,</v>

01:02:48.000 --> 01:02:51.520
<v Speaker 1>I think we should oppose the the insurance industry as it is</v>

01:02:51.520 --> 01:02:53.120
<v Speaker 1>formulated today.</v>

01:02:53.120 --> 01:02:57.360
<v Speaker 1>So vote against it, right, or advocate against it when the opportunity</v>

01:02:57.360 --> 01:03:02.240
<v Speaker 1>arrives. If God hands you the sword as the magistrate, use the</v>

01:03:02.240 --> 01:03:03.280
<v Speaker 1>sword against it.</v>

01:03:03.280 --> 01:03:10.240
<v Speaker 1>But as an individual Christian, it's a matter of conscience and perhaps</v>

01:03:10.240 --> 01:03:12.880
<v Speaker 1>even more so than conscience wisdom.</v>

01:03:12.880 --> 01:03:28.720
<v Speaker 1>And again, often these days the wise choice is to ensure things.</v>

01:03:35.680 --> 01:03:40.400
<v Speaker 1>So I think I will end with one more question from the</v>

01:03:40.400 --> 01:03:43.040
<v Speaker 1>chat. This one is from X</v>

01:03:45.440 --> 01:03:50.000
<v Speaker 1>and then I will give my usual caveats and dismiss you all</v>

01:03:50.000 --> 01:03:52.960
<v Speaker 1>for the weekend as it were I guess.</v>

01:03:52.960 --> 01:03:53.920
<v Speaker 1>Question</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Which one is this?</v>

01:03:56.000 --> 01:03:56.560
<v Speaker 1>This 11?</v>

01:03:56.560 --> 01:03:58.640
<v Speaker 1>I'm looking at the wrong list.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Question twelve.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Right. Question twelve.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>What is your opinion on going to another denomination if the Lutheran</v>

01:04:05.520 --> 01:04:10.400
<v Speaker 1>churches in my area do not pass the test of pastoral orthodoxy.</v>

01:04:10.400 --> 01:04:10.720
<v Speaker 1>So</v>

01:04:12.000 --> 01:04:15.840
<v Speaker 1>if you're talking about my article, then you aren't going to find</v>

01:04:15.920 --> 01:04:19.520
<v Speaker 1>unless you are very lucky, or you happen to be in one</v>

01:04:19.520 --> 01:04:21.760
<v Speaker 1>of a handful of places I know in the US, including one</v>

01:04:21.760 --> 01:04:25.360
<v Speaker 1>that I was this week, which is why I was not in</v>

01:04:25.360 --> 01:04:27.360
<v Speaker 1>my study and not at my desk.</v>

01:04:27.360 --> 01:04:30.160
<v Speaker 1>Unless you're in one of those areas, you are going to</v>

01:04:31.280 --> 01:04:35.280
<v Speaker 1>have to deal with pastors who are not completely orthodox and not</v>

01:04:35.280 --> 01:04:37.360
<v Speaker 1>in the sense that we would prefer them be not to the</v>

01:04:37.360 --> 01:04:39.200
<v Speaker 1>extent we would prefer.</v>

01:04:39.200 --> 01:04:41.680
<v Speaker 1>Because they're going to be wobbly on something.</v>

01:04:41.680 --> 01:04:45.280
<v Speaker 1>The standard today is not whether or not the pastor, the elders,</v>

01:04:45.280 --> 01:04:50.000
<v Speaker 1>the church, etc, whether these things are perfect, but whether they are</v>

01:04:50.000 --> 01:04:55.120
<v Speaker 1>good enough that you can have Christian fellowship, you can hear the</v>

01:04:55.120 --> 01:04:58.640
<v Speaker 1>word, you can receive the sacrament, you can do the things you</v>

01:04:58.640 --> 01:05:00.960
<v Speaker 1>are supposed to do and the things you that y that you</v>

01:05:00.960 --> 01:05:06.080
<v Speaker 1>do clearly want and are supposed to want as a Christian without</v>

01:05:06.400 --> 01:05:12.320
<v Speaker 1>endangering yourself in some extreme cases or going against your conscience.</v>

01:05:12.800 --> 01:05:17.040
<v Speaker 1>So will your pastor probably say some dumb stuff every so often?</v>

01:05:17.040 --> 01:05:20.160
<v Speaker 1>Inevitably, almost.</v>

01:05:20.160 --> 01:05:23.600
<v Speaker 1>That doesn't mean that you have to leave the church immediately, right?</v>

01:05:23.600 --> 01:05:26.560
<v Speaker 1>Now, there are lines, there are obviously lines, right?</v>

01:05:26.560 --> 01:05:31.600
<v Speaker 1>If your pastor starts having women do the readings, maybe talk to</v>

01:05:31.600 --> 01:05:32.640
<v Speaker 1>him about that.</v>

01:05:32.640 --> 01:05:35.600
<v Speaker 1>Maybe talk to some of the elders first, so you can go</v>

01:05:35.600 --> 01:05:38.240
<v Speaker 1>with the elders to the pastor and have a little more clout</v>

01:05:38.720 --> 01:05:39.760
<v Speaker 1>as it were, right?</v>

01:05:39.760 --> 01:05:43.600
<v Speaker 1>You can put a little more leverage on him, have your Bible</v>

01:05:43.600 --> 01:05:46.080
<v Speaker 1>verses prepared and things like that.</v>

01:05:46.080 --> 01:05:50.400
<v Speaker 1>If your pastor starts having women give the sermon, then you need</v>

01:05:50.400 --> 01:05:50.960
<v Speaker 1>to leave.</v>

01:05:50.960 --> 01:05:53.440
<v Speaker 1>Because it's no longer a church, then it's brothel, right?</v>

01:05:53.440 --> 01:05:54.320
<v Speaker 1>There are lines.</v>

01:05:54.320 --> 01:05:58.000
<v Speaker 1>There are bright lines that once crossed, you have to make a</v>

01:05:58.000 --> 01:06:02.080
<v Speaker 1>choice. And that is basically you tell the pastor you've done something</v>

01:06:02.080 --> 01:06:04.160
<v Speaker 1>that is inappropriate.</v>

01:06:04.160 --> 01:06:07.200
<v Speaker 1>This is something that is wicked, it's sinful, you need to stop,</v>

01:06:07.200 --> 01:06:09.600
<v Speaker 1>and his response will tell you whether you need to find a</v>

01:06:09.600 --> 01:06:11.200
<v Speaker 1>new church or not.</v>

01:06:11.200 --> 01:06:14.720
<v Speaker 1>Hopefully, you know, if you go to an LCMS church, even though</v>

01:06:14.720 --> 01:06:17.440
<v Speaker 1>some of them are not that good these days, and the leadership</v>

01:06:17.440 --> 01:06:19.280
<v Speaker 1>is certainly wicked.</v>

01:06:19.280 --> 01:06:20.960
<v Speaker 1>There are still good parishes.</v>

01:06:20.960 --> 01:06:24.320
<v Speaker 1>And even if they're not that good, you're probably going to find</v>

01:06:24.320 --> 01:06:27.280
<v Speaker 1>one that is acceptable.</v>

01:06:27.280 --> 01:06:30.480
<v Speaker 1>The pastor's not going to step back and have a woman give</v>

01:06:30.480 --> 01:06:34.160
<v Speaker 1>the give the sermon, they still crack down on that in the</v>

01:06:34.160 --> 01:06:37.040
<v Speaker 1>LCMS, thankfully.</v>

01:06:37.040 --> 01:06:37.360
<v Speaker 1>But</v>

01:06:38.640 --> 01:06:42.480
<v Speaker 1>if you can't find a Lutheran church in your area, and you</v>

01:06:42.480 --> 01:06:47.360
<v Speaker 1>are, I assume, Lutheran for this, then yes, I've answered this question</v>

01:06:47.360 --> 01:06:49.120
<v Speaker 1>for many men before.</v>

01:06:49.120 --> 01:06:52.560
<v Speaker 1>If you can find a good Anglican church, right, you're going to</v>

01:06:52.560 --> 01:06:55.760
<v Speaker 1>have to check the parishes because Anglicanism in the US particularly is</v>

01:06:55.760 --> 01:06:57.280
<v Speaker 1>a very broad umbrella.</v>

01:06:57.280 --> 01:07:00.000
<v Speaker 1>There are some good ones, there are some terrible ones.</v>

01:07:00.000 --> 01:07:05.120
<v Speaker 1>I've driven past Anglican churches, flying BLM, rainbow flags, all that, and</v>

01:07:05.120 --> 01:07:11.120
<v Speaker 1>I've spoken with Anglican pastors who are nearly Lutheran, in the good</v>

01:07:11.120 --> 01:07:13.200
<v Speaker 1>sense of being nearly Lutheran.</v>

01:07:13.200 --> 01:07:15.840
<v Speaker 1>So it just depends.</v>

01:07:15.840 --> 01:07:17.520
<v Speaker 1>Same thing with Presbyterians.</v>

01:07:17.520 --> 01:07:21.360
<v Speaker 1>There are some good Presbyterian parishes, there are some really bad ones.</v>

01:07:21.360 --> 01:07:22.880
<v Speaker 1>I've been to both.</v>

01:07:22.880 --> 01:07:26.000
<v Speaker 1>I've spoken to pastors and elders at both kinds.</v>

01:07:26.000 --> 01:07:26.320
<v Speaker 1>So</v>

01:07:27.440 --> 01:07:31.040
<v Speaker 1>unfortunately these days, the best advice that I can give on finding</v>

01:07:31.040 --> 01:07:33.280
<v Speaker 1>a church, and I get asked this all the time, but I</v>

01:07:33.360 --> 01:07:36.560
<v Speaker 1>of I'll try if I know about the area, then certainly, but</v>

01:07:36.560 --> 01:07:39.600
<v Speaker 1>if I don't, then the best advice I can give is</v>

01:07:40.480 --> 01:07:45.760
<v Speaker 1>whatever tradition you are, find the most conservative version of that tradition</v>

01:07:45.760 --> 01:07:49.360
<v Speaker 1>in your area, and then start attending parishes.</v>

01:07:49.360 --> 01:07:53.600
<v Speaker 1>Attend them for two, three Sundays apiece, and make an assessment.</v>

01:07:53.600 --> 01:07:57.600
<v Speaker 1>Go out to coffee with the pastor or the elders, or a</v>

01:07:57.600 --> 01:08:00.480
<v Speaker 1>beer, whatever it happens to be, if you're reformed, I guess you</v>

01:08:00.480 --> 01:08:02.000
<v Speaker 1>get the cigars and whiskey</v>

01:08:03.440 --> 01:08:05.120
<v Speaker 1>Talk to these men.</v>

01:08:05.120 --> 01:08:07.760
<v Speaker 1>You have to make the assessment for yourself, right?</v>

01:08:07.760 --> 01:08:09.440
<v Speaker 1>I can't make the assessment for everyone.</v>

01:08:09.440 --> 01:08:10.320
<v Speaker 1>I don't have enough time.</v>

01:08:10.320 --> 01:08:13.520
<v Speaker 1>I don't have enough days, hours, well, days in the week, hours</v>

01:08:13.520 --> 01:08:15.120
<v Speaker 1>in the day, either one.</v>

01:08:15.120 --> 01:08:15.440
<v Speaker 1>So</v>

01:08:16.400 --> 01:08:19.680
<v Speaker 1>do the best that you can and then pick the church that</v>

01:08:19.680 --> 01:08:23.920
<v Speaker 1>is good enough and make it better by being there and talking</v>

01:08:23.920 --> 01:08:27.440
<v Speaker 1>to the elders and talking to the pastor and pushing things in</v>

01:08:27.440 --> 01:08:30.880
<v Speaker 1>the right direction when the opportunity arises.</v>

01:08:30.880 --> 01:08:34.320
<v Speaker 1>These things don't get better by good men abandoning them.</v>

01:08:34.320 --> 01:08:37.760
<v Speaker 1>They get better when good men stick around and push things in</v>

01:08:37.760 --> 01:08:38.880
<v Speaker 1>the right direction.</v>

01:08:38.880 --> 01:08:41.120
<v Speaker 1>That doesn't mean that you join a lost cause.</v>

01:08:41.360 --> 01:08:43.120
<v Speaker 1>I'm not telling you to do that.</v>

01:08:43.120 --> 01:08:46.880
<v Speaker 1>But if there's a church that's kind of wobbly, sort of in</v>

01:08:46.880 --> 01:08:50.880
<v Speaker 1>that gray area, you may be the deciding factor that pushes it</v>

01:08:50.880 --> 01:08:52.640
<v Speaker 1>back onto the straight and narrow.</v>

01:08:52.640 --> 01:08:55.600
<v Speaker 1>And that's a great thing and God will bless you for it.</v>

01:08:55.600 --> 01:08:57.600
<v Speaker 1>But you have to make the call.</v>

01:08:57.600 --> 01:09:01.120
<v Speaker 1>And it e is again a matter of conscience and wisdom.</v>

01:09:01.120 --> 01:09:04.800
<v Speaker 1>So according to the measure of those things that God has given</v>

01:09:04.800 --> 01:09:07.360
<v Speaker 1>you, use them to make the best call.</v>

01:09:09.440 --> 01:09:13.840
<v Speaker 1>I think that will be it for this stream.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>I don't see any other pending questions in the chat.</v>

01:09:18.560 --> 01:09:21.680
<v Speaker 1>I if there are pending questions in the chat and I just</v>

01:09:22.080 --> 01:09:25.840
<v Speaker 1>do not see them, then it is a software thing which would</v>

01:09:25.840 --> 01:09:29.200
<v Speaker 1>not be unheard of using this software.</v>

01:09:29.200 --> 01:09:32.000
<v Speaker 1>But at any rate, thank you for those who asked the question.</v>

01:09:32.000 --> 01:09:35.040
<v Speaker 1>For those who have pending questions, I will try to work on</v>

01:09:35.040 --> 01:09:36.320
<v Speaker 1>some of those this week.</v>

01:09:36.320 --> 01:09:39.200
<v Speaker 1>Thankfully I will be at my desk and have some time to</v>

01:09:39.200 --> 01:09:40.800
<v Speaker 1>do that this week.</v>

01:09:40.800 --> 01:09:44.400
<v Speaker 1>So other than that, if you want to submit questions, the best</v>

01:09:44.400 --> 01:09:46.880
<v Speaker 1>way to do that is of course the forum that should be</v>

01:09:46.880 --> 01:09:50.400
<v Speaker 1>linked in the information for the stream or the show notes, whatever</v>

01:09:50.400 --> 01:09:52.480
<v Speaker 1>platform you happen to be using.</v>

01:09:52.480 --> 01:09:55.600
<v Speaker 1>It can be found just by searching for it, it can be</v>

01:09:55.600 --> 01:09:56.880
<v Speaker 1>found on my X page, etc.</v>

01:09:57.760 --> 01:09:59.840
<v Speaker 1>Of course you can ask questions other ways.</v>

01:09:59.840 --> 01:10:02.880
<v Speaker 1>I respond to I try to respond to the questions in the</v>

01:10:02.880 --> 01:10:07.600
<v Speaker 1>chat and questions on X and DM and however else people get</v>

01:10:07.600 --> 01:10:08.560
<v Speaker 1>them to me.</v>

01:10:08.560 --> 01:10:11.040
<v Speaker 1>The forum's the easiest because I can link them in the show</v>

01:10:11.040 --> 01:10:13.680
<v Speaker 1>notes and other people can find them, but if you ask them</v>

01:10:13.680 --> 01:10:18.640
<v Speaker 1>somewhere else, I do try to collect those together into one long</v>

01:10:18.880 --> 01:10:22.080
<v Speaker 1>list of pending questions, which can be found again on the forum</v>

01:10:22.080 --> 01:10:26.000
<v Speaker 1>in the future topic slash question list.</v>

01:10:26.000 --> 01:10:30.160
<v Speaker 1>I think that pretty much covers it for this stream.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Again, thank you for submitting questions and participating in the chat.</v>

01:10:33.680 --> 01:10:37.040
<v Speaker 1>I I do like getting the opportunity to do this every week.</v>

01:10:37.040 --> 01:10:39.680
<v Speaker 1>I at least try to do it every week if I'm not</v>

01:10:39.840 --> 01:10:42.560
<v Speaker 1>out of town or whatever it happens to be.</v>

01:10:42.560 --> 01:10:45.200
<v Speaker 1>Attempt to do it on Thursdays, but it usually winds up being</v>

01:10:45.200 --> 01:10:47.120
<v Speaker 1>Friday, just depends how my week goes.</v>

01:10:47.120 --> 01:10:49.840
<v Speaker 1>Given that it is Friday, I hope that you all have a</v>

01:10:49.840 --> 01:10:51.520
<v Speaker 1>good weekend.</v>

01:10:51.520 --> 01:10:54.160
<v Speaker 1>Maybe go out and get in nature a little bit if you</v>

01:10:54.160 --> 01:10:58.640
<v Speaker 1>happen to be in part of the country that isn't oppressively hot</v>

01:10:58.640 --> 01:11:01.040
<v Speaker 1>or actively on fire for those of you who are in the</v>

01:11:01.040 --> 01:11:04.880
<v Speaker 1>part of the country I was also just there that is currently</v>

01:11:04.880 --> 01:11:05.760
<v Speaker 1>on fire.</v>

01:11:05.760 --> 01:11:08.400
<v Speaker 1>I wish you all the best and I'll continue to pray for</v>

01:11:08.400 --> 01:11:10.800
<v Speaker 1>you and I hope you pray for and check on your neighbors</v>

01:11:11.120 --> 01:11:14.720
<v Speaker 1>because it's pretty bad in a few places out west right now.</v>

01:11:14.720 --> 01:11:17.760
<v Speaker 1>So for those of you who are not out west, also pray</v>

01:11:17.760 --> 01:11:21.840
<v Speaker 1>for our brothers and sisters who are out there in those very</v>

01:11:21.840 --> 01:11:25.040
<v Speaker 1>bad conditions, particularly pray for the firefighters out there trying to get</v>

01:11:25.040 --> 01:11:27.040
<v Speaker 1>them under control.</v>

01:11:27.040 --> 01:11:30.080
<v Speaker 1>But that is it for this week.</v>

01:11:30.320 --> 01:11:33.360
<v Speaker 1>Again, I hope you all have a good weekend, and of course,</v>

01:11:33.360 --> 01:11:35.360
<v Speaker 1>go to church on Sunday.</v>

01:11:35.360 --> 01:11:38.480
<v Speaker 1>And until next week, God bless you all.</v>