WEBVTT 00:00:37.200 --> 00:00:39.440 Welcome to the Stone Choir Podcast. 00:00:39.440 --> 00:00:40.480 I am Corey J. 00:00:40.480 --> 00:00:42.480 Mahler. And I'm Woe. 00:00:42.880 --> 00:00:46.720 As promised, in this episode, we are going to be talking about 00:00:46.720 --> 00:00:51.920 how scripture interfaces with biological race, how scripture describes how God created 00:00:51.920 --> 00:00:58.400 the races and the arguments that are sometimes used by Christians who 00:00:58.400 --> 00:01:04.160 are cherry picking aspects of scripture outside of their context to make 00:01:04.160 --> 00:01:07.600 secular arguments against some of the things that we've said in the 00:01:07.600 --> 00:01:08.800 past couple episodes. 00:01:08.800 --> 00:01:11.040 Uh this is episode three on race. 00:01:11.280 --> 00:01:13.840 We didn't want to do too much about it, but as we 00:01:13.840 --> 00:01:17.440 said last week in particular, this is such an important subject subject 00:01:17.440 --> 00:01:20.560 to the world, the reason that there's so much fighting around it 00:01:20.720 --> 00:01:23.440 is that there's something theological going on here. 00:01:23.440 --> 00:01:26.800 And we are speaking about it because we believe that there's almost 00:01:26.800 --> 00:01:30.720 no one else who understands all of these moving parts the way 00:01:30.720 --> 00:01:33.120 we do and a lot of people have gotten some value out 00:01:33.120 --> 00:01:34.720 of it, so we're going to continue. 00:01:34.720 --> 00:01:37.200 But it's w it's gonna have a beginning and an end. 00:01:37.200 --> 00:01:41.120 The beginning was the episode where we talked about the biological reality 00:01:41.120 --> 00:01:41.680 of race. 00:01:41.680 --> 00:01:45.120 We laid out the genetics Uh and people receive that well. 00:01:45.120 --> 00:01:46.720 Like it's it's obvious. 00:01:46.720 --> 00:01:50.080 Science is not in opposition to scripture. 00:01:50.080 --> 00:01:53.520 Reality is not in opposition to the creator of that reality. 00:01:53.520 --> 00:01:56.240 That's that should surprise no one who's listening. 00:01:56.240 --> 00:01:58.320 But that was a case we had to make first. 00:01:58.320 --> 00:02:03.920 And then last week we specifically talked about the effects of race 00:02:04.240 --> 00:02:08.400 as they relate to sin and the fact that there are propensities 00:02:08.400 --> 00:02:11.840 for sin that are greater in some races than others, which is 00:02:11.840 --> 00:02:13.200 a really tough pill to swallow. 00:02:13.200 --> 00:02:15.600 And I'm sure that there are some people who heard that and 00:02:15.680 --> 00:02:17.760 you know may never listen again if you're still listening. 00:02:17.760 --> 00:02:18.480 Thank you. 00:02:18.480 --> 00:02:21.280 And as we said in each of those episodes, we were deliberately 00:02:21.280 --> 00:02:24.880 not going too much into scripture for the very reason that if 00:02:24.880 --> 00:02:29.200 we had front loaded scripture in these multiple episodes, if we had 00:02:29.200 --> 00:02:32.160 just focused on what the Bible says and then gone on to 00:02:32.160 --> 00:02:36.160 science, I know I know with absolute certainty that as people listened, 00:02:36.160 --> 00:02:38.880 they would forget that we ever pointed to scripture and just say, 00:02:38.880 --> 00:02:40.240 well, what you're saying doesn't make any sense. 00:02:40.240 --> 00:02:41.920 The Bible says this, that, and the other thing. 00:02:41.920 --> 00:02:45.520 So we deliberately did this kind of upside down by saving scripture 00:02:45.520 --> 00:02:47.760 for the third episode so that we can contextualize 00:02:48.640 --> 00:02:51.040 all the things that we just said for the cat past couple 00:02:51.520 --> 00:02:55.280 weeks in a manner that is consistent with scripture to say, look, 00:02:55.280 --> 00:02:58.320 the things that we just said do not fly in the face 00:02:58.320 --> 00:03:00.000 of what God has said. 00:03:00.000 --> 00:03:02.480 So this is episode three of five. 00:03:02.480 --> 00:03:05.920 Uh episode four next week is going to specifically be entirely about 00:03:05.920 --> 00:03:08.960 IQ, and that's based in part on race. 00:03:08.960 --> 00:03:12.800 Uh, it is based in part on human history and the different 00:03:12.800 --> 00:03:16.400 people groups, and it's not just a scientific thing. 00:03:16.400 --> 00:03:21.120 It's not just about a measuring contest to see who's smarter or 00:03:21.120 --> 00:03:22.480 who's stupider. 00:03:22.480 --> 00:03:25.680 There's no judgment involved in talking about IQ. 00:03:25.680 --> 00:03:30.720 The reason that that question matters is that if someone lacks the 00:03:30.720 --> 00:03:36.240 mental capacity to understand certain types of things, that precludes large amounts 00:03:36.240 --> 00:03:39.200 of theology from their understanding. 00:03:39.200 --> 00:03:40.960 They're not going to be able to understand things. 00:03:40.960 --> 00:03:44.400 So the reason that that's part of this is that talking about 00:03:44.400 --> 00:03:46.720 IQ is talking about the gospel. 00:03:46.720 --> 00:03:50.480 How do you share the gospel with someone who can't understand hypotheticals? 00:03:50.560 --> 00:03:54.080 And then the last episode, episode five of this mini-series, is going 00:03:54.080 --> 00:03:58.400 to specifically discuss the invention of racism in the late eighteen hundreds 00:03:58.400 --> 00:04:02.960 and what has followed, because most people think the racism is a 00:04:02.960 --> 00:04:07.760 sin that God ordained as being against his will from before eternity, 00:04:07.760 --> 00:04:11.200 and that we are doing what God wants us to do when 00:04:11.200 --> 00:04:14.080 we attack something that the world calls racism. 00:04:14.080 --> 00:04:16.240 So the capstone for all of this is going to be to 00:04:16.240 --> 00:04:18.880 put all of this is in context because the things that we've 00:04:18.880 --> 00:04:21.280 said so far and the things we're going to continue to say, 00:04:21.280 --> 00:04:25.840 uh, the Missouri Senate in particular, on their webpage where they describe 00:04:25.840 --> 00:04:30.000 racism and responses to it, they basically refute every single thing that 00:04:30.000 --> 00:04:30.560 we're saying. 00:04:30.560 --> 00:04:33.440 They refute all the things that are factual that you've already agreed 00:04:33.440 --> 00:04:36.160 with, uh, if if you agreed with the previous episodes. 00:04:36.160 --> 00:04:39.520 And so we're gonna in the the last episode in this series, 00:04:39.520 --> 00:04:42.800 we're going to completely dismantle the lies that the Senate has been 00:04:43.280 --> 00:04:45.440 telling really only since about the seventies. 00:04:45.440 --> 00:04:48.960 Prior to the seventies those lies weren't being told, uh, but in 00:04:48.960 --> 00:04:52.560 the sixties something happened to the whole world and it seems more 00:04:52.560 --> 00:04:55.360 and more like there was a portal hell was opened and a 00:04:55.360 --> 00:04:57.920 whole lot of demons came pouring out out and kind of went 00:04:57.920 --> 00:04:59.360 in all different directions. 00:04:59.360 --> 00:05:02.400 We saw the destruction of the Roman Catholic Church even worse than 00:05:02.400 --> 00:05:03.440 it was before. 00:05:03.440 --> 00:05:05.760 We saw the destruction of Protestantism. 00:05:05.760 --> 00:05:07.520 Lutherans were not immune to it. 00:05:07.520 --> 00:05:11.040 And all that began in the US really in the sixties. 00:05:11.040 --> 00:05:15.120 So we're gonna finish this up by specifically addressing the charges against 00:05:15.120 --> 00:05:18.160 us and now against you if you believe anything we've said, that 00:05:18.160 --> 00:05:20.720 you are a racist and that you are going to hell if 00:05:20.720 --> 00:05:23.440 you don't repent for believing the truth about 00:05:24.320 --> 00:05:26.960 scripture and about creation. 00:05:27.360 --> 00:05:31.760 So to begin with in this episode on scripture and race, we're 00:05:31.760 --> 00:05:34.880 going to recap and go back over some of the territory we 00:05:34.880 --> 00:05:38.400 covered in I think episode four, uh, where we talked about Christian 00:05:38.400 --> 00:05:42.000 nationalism. That was kind of the kickoff for us really discussing the 00:05:42.000 --> 00:05:44.160 subject of race head on. 00:05:44.160 --> 00:05:46.880 So there'll be a little bit of repetition in this from that 00:05:46.880 --> 00:05:48.720 episode if you happen to listen to it. 00:05:48.720 --> 00:05:51.840 If you haven't, go back and listen to it after this because 00:05:51.840 --> 00:05:54.480 there's a lot more to say about all these things in different 00:05:54.480 --> 00:05:58.720 directions. There will be some some recapitulation of some of those things, 00:05:58.720 --> 00:06:03.200 but they're well worth hearing again because if you have a scriptural 00:06:03.680 --> 00:06:06.640 basis for believing what we have said and it with a clean 00:06:06.640 --> 00:06:10.880 conscience, then you're going to be immunized against charges of, well, that's 00:06:10.880 --> 00:06:12.480 racist. Well you can't think that. 00:06:12.720 --> 00:06:14.000 that's a sin. 00:06:14.000 --> 00:06:15.920 If that's true, it's a very bad thing. 00:06:15.920 --> 00:06:19.680 But if it's false, you need to be equipped from scripture to 00:06:19.760 --> 00:06:23.040 be able to respond it faithfully as a Christian. 00:06:23.040 --> 00:06:25.440 So that's what we're going to be talking about today. 00:06:25.440 --> 00:06:28.480 So let's begin back in Genesis once again, I think at the 00:06:28.480 --> 00:06:30.240 table of nations. 00:06:30.240 --> 00:06:34.320 So to start off with a basic point about genealogies. 00:06:34.320 --> 00:06:38.960 In scripture, there are a lot of genealogies. 00:06:38.960 --> 00:06:42.000 It is not just in Genesis, it's not just in the Old 00:06:42.000 --> 00:06:45.680 Testament. The New Testament starts with the genealogy of Christ. 00:06:45.680 --> 00:06:49.120 But genealogies play an important role in scripture. 00:06:49.120 --> 00:06:51.760 They have to do with God's promises, they have to do with, 00:06:51.760 --> 00:06:54.320 of course, who descends from whom that is the nature of a 00:06:54.320 --> 00:07:00.480 genealogy, but part of the core thread of scripture is literally a 00:07:00.480 --> 00:07:06.720 bloodline from Adam, through Noah, through Shem, through David, 00:07:07.600 --> 00:07:10.160 down the line to Christ. 00:07:10.160 --> 00:07:14.640 And so we begin that really with the table of nations, which 00:07:14.640 --> 00:07:16.800 is of course Genesis ten. 00:07:16.800 --> 00:07:19.120 Let me just pull that up here. 00:07:19.120 --> 00:07:24.320 And And Genesis ten gives the nations that are descended from the 00:07:24.320 --> 00:07:25.600 sons of Noah. 00:07:25.600 --> 00:07:29.040 And of course Noah and his sons, and their wives, are the 00:07:29.040 --> 00:07:33.040 only ones currently living, because the flood has just wiped the slate 00:07:33.040 --> 00:07:39.680 clean And so this gives the descent of literally everyone alive. 00:07:39.680 --> 00:07:44.560 Now, these nations, of course, have further split as time has gone 00:07:44.560 --> 00:07:48.320 on. We have more than just the number of individuals listed here 00:07:48.560 --> 00:07:52.400 relative to the number of nations that now exists or tribes depending 00:07:52.400 --> 00:07:54.480 on the resolution. 00:07:54.480 --> 00:07:57.520 But this is the basic outline of what happened. 00:07:57.520 --> 00:08:02.000 And you have the three rate groups of humanity, the three great 00:08:02.000 --> 00:08:08.160 races of men, descended respectively Japheth, Shem, and Ham in order of 00:08:08.160 --> 00:08:11.920 birth. Unsurprising Shem would be second. 00:08:11.920 --> 00:08:14.240 If you look at the one of the themes in the Old 00:08:14.240 --> 00:08:20.560 Testament, God very often subverts the expectation that the best of things 00:08:20.560 --> 00:08:24.960 will go to the firstborn, although Japheth is definitely blessed, we see 00:08:24.960 --> 00:08:29.760 that in the the blessing and the curses spoken by Noah later 00:08:29.760 --> 00:08:34.000 on, but often the line of Christ goes through the second born. 00:08:34.000 --> 00:08:36.640 So in this case it is the second born, it is Shem. 00:08:36.640 --> 00:08:41.920 But But you have Japheth becomes basically Europe, and a little bit 00:08:41.920 --> 00:08:46.720 of northern Africa because the sons of Japheth became sailors and sailed 00:08:46.720 --> 00:08:48.000 the Mediterranean. 00:08:48.000 --> 00:08:51.680 You have Shem, who largely stayed in the Middle East for a 00:08:51.680 --> 00:08:55.520 period of time but then spread eastward into Asia and other places. 00:08:55.520 --> 00:08:59.920 The Amerindians are descended at least in part from Shem, and then 00:08:59.920 --> 00:09:05.200 you have Ham who moved southward through Egypt, past the Sahara, however 00:09:05.280 --> 00:09:07.760 big it happened to be at the time, and down and filled 00:09:07.760 --> 00:09:13.520 Africa. And so, speaking of that, it leads into 00:09:14.720 --> 00:09:16.960 the Exodus, but of course, before the Exodus 00:09:17.840 --> 00:09:19.040 you have the 00:09:19.920 --> 00:09:25.440 line of Christ moving to Egypt, and then eventually the Israelites being 00:09:25.440 --> 00:09:27.040 enslaved in Egypt. 00:09:27.040 --> 00:09:32.480 And scripture is very clear that Egypt Egypt, one, the name is 00:09:32.480 --> 00:09:37.840 actually in the table of nations, and two, Scripture explicitly calls Egypt 00:09:37.840 --> 00:09:39.040 the land of Ham. 00:09:39.040 --> 00:09:43.280 That would be from one example Psalm one hundred six, they forgot 00:09:43.520 --> 00:09:47.600 God their Savior, who had done great things in Egypt, wondrous works 00:09:47.600 --> 00:09:52.240 in the land of Ham, and awesome deeds by the Red Sea. 00:09:52.240 --> 00:09:58.400 And so the Israelites were in Egypt for four hundred and thirty 00:09:58.400 --> 00:10:03.520 years. We get that from Exodus twelve, of course, which says literally 00:10:03.520 --> 00:10:08.400 four hundred and thirty years, that is Exodus twelve verse that's verse 00:10:08.400 --> 00:10:12.400 forty. The time that the people of Israel lived in Egypt was 00:10:12.400 --> 00:10:15.600 four hundred and thirty years, at the end of four hundred and 00:10:15.600 --> 00:10:19.280 thirty years on that very day all the hosts of the Lord 00:10:19.280 --> 00:10:21.040 went out from the land of Egypt. 00:10:22.240 --> 00:10:27.600 And so the reason it's worth noting in this context, the Exodus 00:10:27.760 --> 00:10:32.560 and the sojourn in Egypt, is that the Israelites were in Egypt 00:10:32.560 --> 00:10:37.040 four hundred and thirty years, over four centuries, they are not called 00:10:37.040 --> 00:10:39.840 Egyptian, they did not become Egyptian. 00:10:39.840 --> 00:10:43.920 They lived there for a time, that did not make them Egyptian. 00:10:43.920 --> 00:10:49.120 Simply moving somewhere does not make you a member of the race 00:10:49.120 --> 00:10:53.360 that inhabits that particular geographic location. 00:10:53.360 --> 00:10:56.960 It makes you a sojourner, which is what the Israelites were, which 00:10:56.960 --> 00:10:58.960 is how Scripture describes them. 00:10:58.960 --> 00:11:02.720 And so when they left Egypt, they were still Israelites. 00:11:02.720 --> 00:11:06.400 They were not Egyptians, even though they had been there four hundred 00:11:06.400 --> 00:11:11.440 and thirty years, which bear in mind, most of the audience for 00:11:11.440 --> 00:11:13.600 this podcast and the two of us, we live in the United 00:11:13.600 --> 00:11:17.360 States, founded in seventeen seventy-six. 00:11:17.360 --> 00:11:21.840 Of course, the colonies are earlier, the nation came before the country, 00:11:21.840 --> 00:11:24.880 but four hundred and thirty years is a long time. 00:11:24.880 --> 00:11:26.080 long time. 00:11:26.240 --> 00:11:26.400 And 00:11:26.400 --> 00:11:29.040 I think it's important to note there that 00:11:30.640 --> 00:11:34.320 when the Israelites lived in Egypt, there was no confusion. 00:11:34.320 --> 00:11:36.480 The Egyptians didn't think they were Egyptian. 00:11:36.480 --> 00:11:38.720 The Israelites didn't think they were Egyptian. 00:11:38.960 --> 00:11:41.600 there was no interbreeding of the groups by and large. 00:11:41.600 --> 00:11:43.920 There may have been a little bit, but it was they were 00:11:44.080 --> 00:11:49.040 they were segregated, not only socially, but biologically. 00:11:49.040 --> 00:11:49.360 And 00:11:50.480 --> 00:11:53.440 I think that's important to to observe because 00:11:54.720 --> 00:12:01.920 when we discuss the Israelites in scripture, there's a strong tendency today 00:12:01.920 --> 00:12:06.720 that I think is largely driven by Zionism, by by beliefs that 00:12:06.720 --> 00:12:12.480 were originated in the United States primarily in the late nineteenth century, 00:12:12.480 --> 00:12:16.560 to believe that somehow Israel was something special 00:12:17.760 --> 00:12:23.680 apart from all other nations, and apart from its purpose in God's 00:12:23.680 --> 00:12:28.880 plan of providing the Messiah's bloodline and also being a vessel to 00:12:28.880 --> 00:12:32.160 preserve the prophecies of the Messiah. 00:12:32.160 --> 00:12:32.480 So 00:12:33.360 --> 00:12:36.720 a lot of times what you'll hear today is when someone denies 00:12:36.720 --> 00:12:40.160 their race exists at all and you say, well what about the 00:12:40.160 --> 00:12:43.840 Israelites? The knee-jerk response is, Oh, well, they were special. 00:12:43.840 --> 00:12:45.520 God chose them for a purpose. 00:12:45.520 --> 00:12:52.240 Well, yes, God used the used Abraham's bloodline through Isaac and Jacob 00:12:52.560 --> 00:12:56.000 specifically to provide the bloodline to Jesus. 00:12:56.800 --> 00:13:02.000 But God also worked through other bloodlines and other places, less important 00:13:02.240 --> 00:13:04.800 works certainly than giving us the Messiah. 00:13:04.880 --> 00:13:09.920 There there's no one who would ever deny that God coming incarnate 00:13:09.920 --> 00:13:14.160 among us is the chief of all events in human history. 00:13:14.160 --> 00:13:16.720 So I'm not trying to diminish that in the slightest. 00:13:16.720 --> 00:13:20.080 But the point is the fact that a people group, that a 00:13:20.080 --> 00:13:24.640 race, the race of the Hebrews was used for that purpose doesn't 00:13:24.560 --> 00:13:27.120 mean that they were the only race and that everyone else was 00:13:27.120 --> 00:13:28.160 just human. 00:13:28.160 --> 00:13:31.680 There were all these different races that were serving different purposes. 00:13:31.680 --> 00:13:34.000 You can see that even in Egypt. 00:13:34.000 --> 00:13:37.360 What did God do with Egypt? 00:13:37.360 --> 00:13:41.760 He created a great empire in that place that was on the 00:13:41.760 --> 00:13:44.400 Nile, where they were going to be able to grow a great 00:13:44.400 --> 00:13:45.520 amount of grain. 00:13:45.520 --> 00:13:48.000 He knew that he was going to be sending a famine. 00:13:48.000 --> 00:13:51.520 He knew that he was going to be sending the Israelites into 00:13:51.520 --> 00:13:55.680 Egypt to become slaves to them for a period of centuries. 00:13:55.680 --> 00:13:58.720 And then he was going to send them out from that place. 00:13:58.720 --> 00:14:02.720 None of that story would have worked if God had not also 00:14:02.720 --> 00:14:08.080 used the race of the Egyptians to serve their purpose in history. 00:14:08.080 --> 00:14:11.440 And so I don't think that it's a stretch at all to 00:14:11.440 --> 00:14:14.480 say that each of the races have had their purpose in God's 00:14:14.480 --> 00:14:18.640 plan. Some certainly greater, some lesser, some completely unknown. 00:14:18.640 --> 00:14:21.760 We don't have to know what God's doing to believe that God 00:14:21.760 --> 00:14:23.520 is actually doing something. 00:14:23.520 --> 00:14:27.760 And I think chief among our concerns is In describing that race 00:14:27.760 --> 00:14:30.080 is a real thing, is that we want to give God the 00:14:30.080 --> 00:14:32.640 glory for what he does in the world. 00:14:32.640 --> 00:14:36.160 It's not just about, well, here's this one specific thing that I 00:14:36.160 --> 00:14:36.960 know he said he did. 00:14:36.960 --> 00:14:39.760 So he gets credit for that, and all the rest is random. 00:14:39.760 --> 00:14:42.880 We talked about randomness last week and the tendency that we have 00:14:42.880 --> 00:14:45.600 to think, oh, it's who knows what happens, you know, you ha 00:14:45.680 --> 00:14:48.720 you have a baby and there's millions of sperm and it's it's 00:14:48.720 --> 00:14:49.600 all just random. 00:14:49.600 --> 00:14:51.760 No, God is in control of everything. 00:14:51.760 --> 00:14:56.720 Now that's not making an utterly deterministic claim about the universe. 00:14:56.720 --> 00:14:59.840 It's saying that things happen when God desires that they happen. 00:14:59.840 --> 00:15:02.720 Things don't happen when God does not desire them. 00:15:02.720 --> 00:15:07.760 And if there's something evil or something that's That seems to be 00:15:07.760 --> 00:15:12.240 bad that God permits, he will also use that evil for his 00:15:12.400 --> 00:15:13.440 good ends. 00:15:13.440 --> 00:15:17.680 And so it's not only the good that the Hebrew people were 00:15:17.680 --> 00:15:22.560 a vessel for, despite their own incredible wickedness throughout scripture. 00:15:22.560 --> 00:15:27.120 It's astonishing how evil those people were in in ways that in 00:15:27.120 --> 00:15:29.440 in some ways are far worse than some of the things we 00:15:29.440 --> 00:15:30.560 see even today. 00:15:30.560 --> 00:15:34.160 When I think I mentioned before, when you look at when Moses 00:15:34.320 --> 00:15:37.920 went up to get the ten commandments from God and they saw 00:15:37.920 --> 00:15:41.440 the pillar of fire and smoke and God was up there with 00:15:41.440 --> 00:15:46.000 Moses, with with the man who led them out of captivity. 00:15:46.000 --> 00:15:49.680 It took less than forty days for them to abandon God while 00:15:49.680 --> 00:15:51.200 he was right in front of him. 00:15:51.200 --> 00:15:54.320 They got mad that Moses was gone for a few weeks and 00:15:54.320 --> 00:15:57.680 told Aaron, Make us a new God, make make us a golden 00:15:57.680 --> 00:16:00.480 calf who will be the one who led us out of Egypt. 00:16:00.480 --> 00:16:02.640 Like that's in it's completely insane. 00:16:02.640 --> 00:16:06.320 It's incomprehensible to us, even as a pagan, to think, well, if 00:16:06.320 --> 00:16:09.760 you saw this miracle and your God came down as a pillar 00:16:09.760 --> 00:16:13.040 of fire on a mountain and the guy that God sent to 00:16:13.040 --> 00:16:15.920 do that is up there talking to him, wouldn't you have p 00:16:16.000 --> 00:16:18.000 more patience than forty days? 00:16:18.000 --> 00:16:19.680 And yet that that was all they could muster. 00:16:19.680 --> 00:16:23.360 By when Moses came down, they had descended in into an orgy 00:16:23.440 --> 00:16:26.720 and they were worshiping pagan gods and who knows what else they 00:16:26.720 --> 00:16:27.040 were doing. 00:16:27.040 --> 00:16:29.360 It was it was unspeakable evil. 00:16:29.680 --> 00:16:33.200 in in in the same amount of time that Lent will take, 00:16:33.200 --> 00:16:35.600 which is this is a period that will be beginning on the 00:16:35.600 --> 00:16:37.760 day that this episode is released. 00:16:37.760 --> 00:16:42.400 So they were chosen for the purpose of being a vessel of 00:16:42.400 --> 00:16:43.600 God's promise. 00:16:43.600 --> 00:16:45.040 But they were not the only race. 00:16:45.040 --> 00:16:46.400 They were one of many. 00:16:46.400 --> 00:16:48.560 And the table of nations lists all of them. 00:16:48.560 --> 00:16:52.000 And there's one interesting thing that I want to note, I Corey, 00:16:52.000 --> 00:16:55.120 you can correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe that in 00:16:55.120 --> 00:16:59.120 most places in Scripture, especially in the Old Testament, when you're talking 00:16:59.120 --> 00:17:02.320 about the patriarchs, it will say that in Adam had other sons 00:17:02.320 --> 00:17:03.040 and daughters. 00:17:03.280 --> 00:17:06.000 So there will be some who were enumerated, and then there will 00:17:06.000 --> 00:17:07.600 be others that simply are mentioned. 00:17:07.600 --> 00:17:10.080 Now I believe that the table of nations is complete and na 00:17:10.320 --> 00:17:12.720 Noah is in the table of nations. 00:17:12.960 --> 00:17:16.320 The reason that I think that's interesting is that although Noah lived 00:17:16.320 --> 00:17:20.400 to be 950, it never says that he hasn't had more than 00:17:20.400 --> 00:17:22.080 those three sons. 00:17:22.080 --> 00:17:27.520 And I think the fact that God limited Noah's offspring to three 00:17:28.080 --> 00:17:32.640 men who became the fathers of the greatest nations of what became 00:17:32.640 --> 00:17:37.360 today what we call Africans, principally Asians and principally Europeans, like those 00:17:37.360 --> 00:17:41.360 are distinct groups that still exist in the world today and we 00:17:41.360 --> 00:17:46.000 can trace it directly back to a specific chapter in Genesis. 00:17:46.000 --> 00:17:49.200 So when we talked in episode one of this about how this 00:17:49.200 --> 00:17:53.200 isn't evolution, this is God acting in history, I think there's some 00:17:53.200 --> 00:17:56.720 significance to the fact that God God did not bless Noah with 00:17:56.720 --> 00:17:57.680 additional children. 00:17:57.680 --> 00:17:58.400 Unless I'm wrong. 00:17:58.400 --> 00:17:59.360 Can you correct me, Corey? 00:17:59.600 --> 00:18:02.480 No, I think it's very obvious here that this is a complete 00:18:02.480 --> 00:18:05.760 list. This is an exhaustive list of the nations. 00:18:05.760 --> 00:18:11.360 And verse thirty-two, the last verse in Genesis ten emphasizes that point. 00:18:11.360 --> 00:18:14.080 These are the clans of the sons of Noah, according to their 00:18:14.080 --> 00:18:18.560 genealogies, in their nations, and from these the nations spread abroad on 00:18:18.560 --> 00:18:20.240 the earth after the flood. 00:18:20.240 --> 00:18:22.640 So there's no mention of anyone else. 00:18:22.640 --> 00:18:27.920 These are all of the human beings ever to exist contained within 00:18:27.920 --> 00:18:31.520 these men enumerated in this listing in Genesis 10. 00:18:31.760 --> 00:18:34.560 So I think what that tells us is that God wanted there 00:18:34.560 --> 00:18:36.000 to be Africans. 00:18:36.000 --> 00:18:38.800 He wanted there to be Europeans and Asians. 00:18:38.800 --> 00:18:41.520 Now it's important to note when you look at the genetics that 00:18:41.520 --> 00:18:45.280 there was definitely more admixture of the sons of Japheth and the 00:18:45.280 --> 00:18:48.160 sons of Shem as they sort of went kind of north and 00:18:48.160 --> 00:18:49.280 then east and west. 00:18:49.280 --> 00:18:52.480 There was more mixture than there is with the sons of Ham. 00:18:52.480 --> 00:18:57.040 We have the really the only genes we have in common with 00:18:57.040 --> 00:19:02.160 Africans as as Asians and Europeans goes pretty much back to the 00:19:02.160 --> 00:19:05.200 Tower of Abel, more or less just after the flood. 00:19:05.200 --> 00:19:09.600 There's very little commonality beyond that, which is rooted in Noah himself, 00:19:09.600 --> 00:19:13.280 Noah and his wife and his son and Ham and his wife. 00:19:13.280 --> 00:19:16.640 Those four people have all the genes that we would have in 00:19:16.640 --> 00:19:18.880 common with that group. 00:19:18.880 --> 00:19:22.160 And again, that's in no way a denial of their humanity or 00:19:22.160 --> 00:19:25.920 their worth or got Jesus sacrificed for them, which is something we'll 00:19:25.840 --> 00:19:27.600 get to in in a little bit. 00:19:27.600 --> 00:19:29.840 We're not making a qualitative judgment. 00:19:29.840 --> 00:19:32.640 We're simply saying, God did this. 00:19:32.640 --> 00:19:34.080 God made Africans. 00:19:34.080 --> 00:19:38.240 He didn't make infinite human beings of all just we're fungible. 00:19:38.240 --> 00:19:39.520 We're all completely interchangeable. 00:19:39.520 --> 00:19:41.680 And you can have an African and you move him over here 00:19:41.760 --> 00:19:44.000 and suddenly he becomes someone from Ohio. 00:19:44.000 --> 00:19:44.960 God didn't do that. 00:19:44.960 --> 00:19:47.040 It's not how he created the world. 00:19:47.040 --> 00:19:51.920 And so when these discussions at occur today there's such a tendency 00:19:51.920 --> 00:19:55.200 among especially Christians who want to be nice, they want to be 00:19:55.200 --> 00:19:59.440 kind, and they want to point to the cross, go too far 00:19:59.680 --> 00:20:04.800 and delve into what's functionally Gnosticism to deny the the flesh that 00:20:04.800 --> 00:20:09.280 God has created in time and throughout time through a series of 00:20:09.280 --> 00:20:13.840 fathers going back and back, to whom we are commanded by God 00:20:14.000 --> 00:20:16.720 to have respect and to love and to obey. 00:20:16.720 --> 00:20:17.600 When we as Christians 00:20:18.640 --> 00:20:21.760 try to be more moral than God and say, well, none of 00:20:21.760 --> 00:20:22.480 that even happened. 00:20:22.480 --> 00:20:25.840 You're human, I'm human, there's no difference at all. 00:20:25.840 --> 00:20:29.440 That's a lie and it's a denial of what God did. 00:20:29.440 --> 00:20:32.400 And that is the reason to get these things right. 00:20:32.400 --> 00:20:36.160 Because as we've as we say frequently, if you let any lie 00:20:36.160 --> 00:20:41.200 into your own epistemology, how you view all of these subjects, whatever 00:20:41.200 --> 00:20:42.880 lie you say, yeah, that's mine. 00:20:42.880 --> 00:20:45.280 I'm I don't want to this this this race stuff, it bothers 00:20:45.280 --> 00:20:45.760 me too much. 00:20:45.760 --> 00:20:46.560 I want to think about it. 00:20:46.560 --> 00:20:47.520 I want to hear about it. 00:20:47.520 --> 00:20:50.320 I'm just gonna lie and say the world exactly the same. 00:20:50.320 --> 00:20:54.320 That's Satan's hook in your mind to be able to do damage 00:20:54.320 --> 00:20:55.280 down the road. 00:20:55.280 --> 00:20:58.160 And it's pretty clear what that damage is as is we see 00:20:58.160 --> 00:20:59.280 in the world. 00:20:59.280 --> 00:21:03.360 And on one side you have Antifa saying that, and on the 00:21:03.360 --> 00:21:06.880 other side you have Christians saying exactly the same thing. 00:21:06.880 --> 00:21:08.960 That's them on the same side. 00:21:08.960 --> 00:21:09.760 How did that happen? 00:21:10.000 --> 00:21:14.160 How did Antifa and Christians both deny the race is real when 00:21:14.160 --> 00:21:19.200 Scripture says that God created it and created all of us according 00:21:19.200 --> 00:21:22.720 to the image of our fathers going back and back and back. 00:21:22.720 --> 00:21:29.120 And so the emphasis on fatherhood and the emphasis on patrilineal lines, 00:21:29.120 --> 00:21:30.720 it's not something man invented. 00:21:30.720 --> 00:21:34.240 As Corey said, there's so many genealogies in scripture, not only not 00:21:34.400 --> 00:21:37.520 only for Jesus line, but just in general. 00:21:37.520 --> 00:21:41.280 God like there's there are books in the Bible that people skip 00:21:41.280 --> 00:21:44.080 because they're so boring because it's just genealogy. 00:21:44.080 --> 00:21:47.680 And then we're supposed to believe today that genealogy doesn't matter, that 00:21:47.680 --> 00:21:51.200 the way that God created us through our fathers doesn't matter. 00:21:51.200 --> 00:21:53.840 How do you obey the fourth commandment when you do that? 00:21:53.840 --> 00:21:56.320 How do you believe the Bible when you do that? 00:21:56.320 --> 00:22:00.480 So discussion of race is not it's not an assault on on 00:22:00.480 --> 00:22:01.760 the Christian faith. 00:22:01.760 --> 00:22:05.120 It's It's just making sure that we're shoring up the foundations that 00:22:05.120 --> 00:22:08.160 God has given to the very faith that is presented to us 00:22:08.160 --> 00:22:08.800 in Scripture. 00:22:09.120 --> 00:22:09.280 And 00:22:09.280 --> 00:22:12.160 it really does come down to the fact that if you deny 00:22:12.160 --> 00:22:15.920 race, you are cutting yourself off at the knees when it comes 00:22:15.920 --> 00:22:18.320 to defending the faith. 00:22:18.320 --> 00:22:21.600 Because it is everywhere in Scripture and it plays out in the 00:22:21.600 --> 00:22:23.360 natural sciences as well. 00:22:23.360 --> 00:22:27.520 If you affirm what Scripture says, you can also affirm what science 00:22:27.520 --> 00:22:28.560 has found. 00:22:28.560 --> 00:22:32.000 You can show people who believe in the science, who will believe 00:22:32.000 --> 00:22:34.320 in the numbers if you can show them those. 00:22:34.320 --> 00:22:37.680 Look, scripture says that's exactly what you're going to find if you 00:22:37.680 --> 00:22:41.760 look. Because these are entirely in agreement, because of course, if you 00:22:41.760 --> 00:22:45.760 look at the natural world in an honest way, and believe the 00:22:45.760 --> 00:22:49.440 conclusions you actually find, you don't filter them through some sort of 00:22:49.440 --> 00:22:51.360 ideology to skew the data. 00:22:51.360 --> 00:22:52.640 If you look at what is actually there, 00:22:53.760 --> 00:22:56.080 it fully aligns with Scripture. 00:22:56.080 --> 00:22:58.000 Because Scripture is actual history. 00:22:58.000 --> 00:23:02.720 Genesis is the actual history of the world, with a focus, yes, 00:23:02.720 --> 00:23:05.920 on humanity, of course, but it is the history of the world, 00:23:05.760 --> 00:23:09.200 and so what is contained in scripture is what you will find 00:23:09.200 --> 00:23:12.800 in nature, it is what you will find in creation. 00:23:12.800 --> 00:23:16.800 Because as some used to say, God has two books. 00:23:16.800 --> 00:23:18.720 One is scripture. 00:23:18.720 --> 00:23:20.800 One is One is creation. 00:23:20.800 --> 00:23:22.640 They both attest to his glory. 00:23:22.640 --> 00:23:26.080 And if you look in Job, when God speaks directly to Job, 00:23:26.080 --> 00:23:28.400 he does not in fact appeal to Scripture. 00:23:28.400 --> 00:23:31.200 Now, of course, you can argue that's partly because Job is one 00:23:31.200 --> 00:23:35.120 of the oldest books, possibly the oldest book in scripture, but God 00:23:35.120 --> 00:23:38.800 appeals to creation when he is speaking of his glory. 00:23:38.800 --> 00:23:41.680 And we should pay attention to that. 00:23:41.680 --> 00:23:43.280 But this is probably a good place to 00:23:44.240 --> 00:23:49.680 refute a particular argument that comes up sometimes with regard to the 00:23:49.680 --> 00:23:52.560 existence of the nations of the races. 00:23:52.560 --> 00:23:54.800 And that would be the Tower of Babel. 00:23:54.800 --> 00:23:59.280 Now you have A small problem with the ordering here if you're 00:23:59.280 --> 00:24:01.280 trying to say the Tower of Babel has something to do with 00:24:01.440 --> 00:24:05.520 the creation of the races, because well, the Table of Nation come 00:24:05.680 --> 00:24:08.320 before the Tower of Babel, because the Tower of Babel is chapter 00:24:08.320 --> 00:24:12.400 eleven in Genesis, insofar as we're pretending the chapters are really a 00:24:12.400 --> 00:24:15.440 thing. But anyway, it comes after it in the text. 00:24:15.440 --> 00:24:15.760 And 00:24:17.360 --> 00:24:20.400 to be very clear, the Tower of Babel is not where the 00:24:20.640 --> 00:24:21.760 the races were created. 00:24:21.760 --> 00:24:24.720 God did not come down and make races at Babel. 00:24:25.200 --> 00:24:29.520 And the races are not a punishment, they're not a consequence of 00:24:29.520 --> 00:24:32.240 sin. They are part of God's good creation. 00:24:32.240 --> 00:24:34.880 I will come back to that in a minute to explain why 00:24:34.880 --> 00:24:37.600 we know that for certain, but when it comes to the Tower 00:24:37.600 --> 00:24:42.640 of Babel, it is such an important story in scripture that if 00:24:42.640 --> 00:24:46.320 you ask even Christians, very few would be able to tell you, 00:24:46.320 --> 00:24:48.320 Oh yeah, of course it's one paragraph. 00:24:48.320 --> 00:24:50.480 But it is, it's literally one paragraph. 00:24:50.480 --> 00:24:54.160 It is a very short section in scripture, but of course it's 00:24:54.160 --> 00:24:54.880 very important. 00:24:54.880 --> 00:24:58.000 I tempted to read it into a small study now, but that's 00:24:57.920 --> 00:25:00.320 not really the place for it. 00:25:00.320 --> 00:25:05.840 But the story of Babel is that instead of obeying God, men 00:25:06.400 --> 00:25:10.560 and we can debate who exactly is present in this, but at 00:25:10.560 --> 00:25:14.000 least some of the sons of the sons of Noah are present 00:25:14.000 --> 00:25:15.360 here, and they build a tower. 00:25:15.520 --> 00:25:18.640 They say they're going to make a name for themselves. 00:25:18.640 --> 00:25:21.680 They are defying God who told them to spread out and cover 00:25:21.680 --> 00:25:26.560 the face of the earth, which was his intention for the nations. 00:25:26.560 --> 00:25:31.200 And so God comes down, which that's a bit of biblical irony 00:25:31.200 --> 00:25:32.160 for you. 00:25:32.160 --> 00:25:33.920 Think about that one for a minute. 00:25:33.920 --> 00:25:36.640 God comes down to confuse their language so they can no longer 00:25:36.640 --> 00:25:40.400 work together and continue sinning in this open, high-handed fashion, and that 00:25:40.720 --> 00:25:45.680 disperses them as they were supposed to do beforehand. 00:25:45.680 --> 00:25:51.040 One, the scripture says nothing here about dispersing them in a way 00:25:51.040 --> 00:25:56.000 that creates new nations or new Genetic information, and that's one of 00:25:56.000 --> 00:25:56.640 the problems. 00:25:56.640 --> 00:26:01.120 If you contend that new genetic information was created by God at 00:26:01.120 --> 00:26:06.960 the Tower of Babel, you are implicitly denying earlier on in Genesis 00:26:07.040 --> 00:26:10.480 when Adam names Eve and he names her Eve because she is 00:26:10.480 --> 00:26:14.160 the mother of all living, if God comes down and creates new 00:26:14.160 --> 00:26:20.240 genetic information and by doing that creates the nations at Babel, creates 00:26:20.240 --> 00:26:25.200 the races there, you're saying there's a break between those who are 00:26:25.200 --> 00:26:30.320 still descended from Eve and those who are descended effectively from God's 00:26:30.320 --> 00:26:31.600 work at Babel. 00:26:31.600 --> 00:26:33.760 So that conflicts with what Scripture says. 00:26:34.480 --> 00:26:37.200 But to go back to the issue of how we know that 00:26:37.200 --> 00:26:40.720 the races are not a consequence of sin, they're not a consequence 00:26:40.720 --> 00:26:45.520 of the fall, they are not a punishment, they are preserved in 00:26:45.520 --> 00:26:52.720 Revelation. Because John speaks of seeing a huge crowd from every tribe 00:26:52.720 --> 00:26:53.840 and nation. 00:26:53.840 --> 00:26:57.280 Well he knows this because they still look like they belong to 00:26:57.280 --> 00:27:02.640 different tribes and nations, so that's preserved in paradise. 00:27:02.640 --> 00:27:05.840 This is part of God's good creation that's preserved in paradise. 00:27:05.840 --> 00:27:09.600 And of course you can't say therefore that it is a consequence 00:27:09.600 --> 00:27:13.760 of sin or a punishment, because sin is not preserved, and the 00:27:13.760 --> 00:27:17.360 consequences of sin are not preserved in paradise. 00:27:17.360 --> 00:27:20.800 So if the tribes and the nations are preserved, they are part 00:27:20.800 --> 00:27:21.920 of God's good plan. 00:27:21.920 --> 00:27:24.400 They are in and of themselves good. 00:27:24.400 --> 00:27:29.680 And that's exactly what we see in Scripture from Genesis through Revelation. 00:27:30.160 --> 00:27:34.000 I think that what they're trying to say when they claim that 00:27:34.000 --> 00:27:38.320 God created races at Babel is 00:27:39.760 --> 00:27:44.480 it's from the the specific verse where it it says, And the 00:27:44.560 --> 00:27:48.240 Lord said, Behold, they are one people, and they all have one 00:27:48.240 --> 00:27:51.120 language, and this is the only beginning of what they will do, 00:27:51.120 --> 00:27:54.560 and nothing that they propose to do will now be impossible for 00:27:54.560 --> 00:27:57.600 them. I think the one people thing is what they're they're hooking 00:27:57.600 --> 00:28:01.040 on to and saying, Well, they were all exactly the same and 00:28:01.040 --> 00:28:03.760 then God did something and it changed things. 00:28:03.760 --> 00:28:04.880 Now that's probably part of that. 00:28:04.880 --> 00:28:05.680 That's true in a sense. 00:28:05.920 --> 00:28:09.440 Part of the problem though, they're conflating two separate things because it 00:28:09.440 --> 00:28:11.680 doesn't say they're one people. 00:28:11.680 --> 00:28:15.440 It says the whole earth has one language, but says that as 00:28:15.440 --> 00:28:16.480 people migrated from the east. 00:28:16.640 --> 00:28:18.640 And so I think they're conflating that a little bit to try 00:28:18.640 --> 00:28:21.280 to say that the the one language is one people, when it 00:28:21.280 --> 00:28:23.440 doesn't tell us that they're one people. 00:28:23.760 --> 00:28:25.680 Okay. I was reading from the ESV. 00:28:25.680 --> 00:28:28.400 I didn't actually go back and look at maybe that's butchering it. 00:28:28.400 --> 00:28:31.520 In any event, the the the problem I want to the high 00:28:31.680 --> 00:28:35.040 the problem to highlight there is that it ignores the command that 00:28:35.040 --> 00:28:37.840 God gave to Adam and repeated to Noah. 00:28:37.840 --> 00:28:40.640 This was the at the at the end of Genesis 9, he 00:28:40.640 --> 00:28:45.440 again says to Noah, and you be fruitful and multiply, increase greatly 00:28:45.440 --> 00:28:48.240 on the earth, and multiply in it. 00:28:48.240 --> 00:28:52.000 It's a repetition of filling the earth and subduing it. 00:28:52.000 --> 00:28:55.280 Filling the earth was part of God's eternal plan. 00:28:55.280 --> 00:28:58.400 They weren't to stay in one place, and that was precisely what 00:28:58.400 --> 00:29:00.160 the tower was to do. 00:29:00.160 --> 00:29:03.040 They wanted to remain one people. 00:29:03.040 --> 00:29:05.760 They wanted one race the human race. 00:29:05.760 --> 00:29:07.840 That was literally the cry of Babel. 00:29:07.840 --> 00:29:11.120 We are one people, we are one race, we will be mighty, 00:29:11.120 --> 00:29:14.720 we will do things that no one else can understand. 00:29:14.720 --> 00:29:18.560 And God said, No, I told you to disperse. 00:29:18.560 --> 00:29:23.040 Now is Cory is you just highlighted, all of the genetic information 00:29:23.040 --> 00:29:26.720 came from Adam and then from Eve by having been taken from 00:29:26.720 --> 00:29:31.840 him. And as we described in the first episode, it's entirely consistent 00:29:31.840 --> 00:29:35.760 that all the genes in Adam have been winnowed down in different 00:29:35.760 --> 00:29:40.720 directions. They basically have been sieved among the different nations and subnations 00:29:40.720 --> 00:29:44.800 as you go throughout time to the point that Corey and I 00:29:44.800 --> 00:29:46.560 have very similar genetic backgrounds. 00:29:46.560 --> 00:29:50.320 I'm like 75% English giver tape and about 20% German. 00:29:50.400 --> 00:29:52.640 I think you're kind of the flip side of that, more or 00:29:52.640 --> 00:29:53.440 less, aren't you? 00:29:53.840 --> 00:29:54.800 Pretty close, yeah. 00:29:54.800 --> 00:29:57.840 I'm more Scottish than English, but close enough. 00:29:57.920 --> 00:30:01.440 Yeah. You know, they're like ultimately we're all the same people because 00:30:01.440 --> 00:30:03.520 you if you go back far enough when when the they were 00:30:03.520 --> 00:30:07.360 moving around, they're all coming from from the Germanic lands before. 00:30:07.360 --> 00:30:10.320 So we're closely related. 00:30:11.120 --> 00:30:14.080 if you know we had a co-host who was was Russian or 00:30:14.080 --> 00:30:19.200 some other Slavic nation, they would be more distantly related because of 00:30:19.360 --> 00:30:22.240 physical distance and the time of separation. 00:30:22.240 --> 00:30:26.800 So the people at Babel, they were one people in the sense 00:30:26.800 --> 00:30:30.240 that they had Noah as their father, and they were, you know, 00:30:30.240 --> 00:30:34.800 second, third, fourth, fifth cousins, however far they had dispersed genetically, they 00:30:34.800 --> 00:30:38.000 were still very closely linked because they lived in the same place. 00:30:38.000 --> 00:30:39.040 God said no. 00:30:39.040 --> 00:30:42.240 You people are supposed to fill the earth that I've created. 00:30:42.240 --> 00:30:45.840 I made this magnificent planet for you, and you're not going anywhere. 00:30:45.840 --> 00:30:48.000 You're just sitting here being idolatrous. 00:30:48.000 --> 00:30:51.520 Again, I just killed everybody because you're idolatry and you're doing it 00:30:51.520 --> 00:30:52.160 again. No. 00:30:52.160 --> 00:30:55.200 I'm gonna come down and I can feud your language and gonna 00:30:55.200 --> 00:30:57.840 send you the corners of the earth so that you will obey. 00:30:57.840 --> 00:31:01.120 Because if you won't obey because you believe me and fear me, 00:31:01.120 --> 00:31:04.240 you will obey because I'm gonna make it impossible for you to 00:31:04.240 --> 00:31:05.280 talk to your cousin. 00:31:05.280 --> 00:31:07.120 And that's exactly what happened. 00:31:07.120 --> 00:31:10.800 Suddenly the the man who's standing next to him, who was related 00:31:10.800 --> 00:31:14.400 closely, certainly by modern standards, was a stranger. 00:31:14.400 --> 00:31:15.760 You couldn't stand a word he said. 00:31:15.760 --> 00:31:20.320 And so they naturally self-segregated and drifted apart and spread as God 00:31:20.320 --> 00:31:24.320 commanded. And so all of the discussion from the episode on the 00:31:24.320 --> 00:31:29.360 biological nature of race talked about that dispersal, about how people went 00:31:29.360 --> 00:31:31.120 largely their separate directions. 00:31:31.120 --> 00:31:34.400 You had Shem in the Middle East and in some into Asia, 00:31:34.400 --> 00:31:39.200 you had Japheth, you know, to India and to uh to Europe, 00:31:39.200 --> 00:31:41.440 and you had Ham basically to Africa. 00:31:41.440 --> 00:31:44.880 And that's pretty much where humanity stayed more or less in their 00:31:44.880 --> 00:31:47.920 places until you get to the fifteen hundreds when the sons of 00:31:47.920 --> 00:31:52.080 Jathfith began exploring the rest of the world by sea. 00:31:52.080 --> 00:31:54.640 There's you can do some stuff over land, but when you start 00:31:54.640 --> 00:31:57.280 moving by sea, it completely changes everything. 00:31:57.280 --> 00:32:00.640 And that's something we talk about in the Atley election episode where 00:32:00.640 --> 00:32:01.920 we also discuss race. 00:32:01.920 --> 00:32:05.680 We talk about how the sons of Japheth were the first to 00:32:05.680 --> 00:32:10.640 actually obey the Great Commission and take Christianity apart from their lands 00:32:10.640 --> 00:32:13.600 to other lands, and when they went to the Americas and they 00:32:13.600 --> 00:32:16.240 went into deepest darkest Africa, that's what they did. 00:32:16.240 --> 00:32:17.840 They took the gospel with them. 00:32:17.840 --> 00:32:22.720 Ethiopia in a tiny corner of an impossibly large continent of Africa 00:32:22.960 --> 00:32:26.240 had Christianity, but whatever attempts that they made to spread it to 00:32:26.240 --> 00:32:28.560 their neighbors completely failed. 00:32:28.560 --> 00:32:30.720 It was just that one tiny corner and that was all that 00:32:30.720 --> 00:32:31.680 was ever there. 00:32:31.680 --> 00:32:34.480 They never evangelized the less rest of Africa. 00:32:34.480 --> 00:32:37.440 And for all intents and purposes, it seems like the Indians on 00:32:37.440 --> 00:32:41.200 the tiny coast, probably where Mark went, never told anybody. 00:32:41.200 --> 00:32:42.960 They didn't even tell their next door neighbors. 00:32:42.960 --> 00:32:46.960 So you have a tiny sliver, but no evangelism, no no spreading 00:32:46.960 --> 00:32:47.920 of the gospel. 00:32:47.920 --> 00:32:49.120 There was preservation of it, and 00:32:50.000 --> 00:32:52.800 as Cory and I were talking about this before we started, I 00:32:52.800 --> 00:32:55.360 point out that you know, maybe they shook the dust off their 00:32:55.360 --> 00:32:58.320 feet. Maybe they said our neighbors are are never going to accept 00:32:58.320 --> 00:33:03.440 this. So I'm not condemning Ethiopians and Sudanese and and the Indians 00:33:03.440 --> 00:33:06.960 who had the gospel for not spreading it, 'cause I don't know 00:33:06.960 --> 00:33:08.480 what the situation was. 00:33:08.480 --> 00:33:12.320 But we know with an absolute certainty there was only Europeans who 00:33:12.320 --> 00:33:16.160 took Christianity to India and to Africa, even though there were Christians 00:33:16.160 --> 00:33:18.080 who were natives to those lands. 00:33:18.080 --> 00:33:22.960 So again, the races as they play out in time have a 00:33:22.960 --> 00:33:26.480 real impact on on the spread of the gospel, just as they 00:33:26.480 --> 00:33:30.960 did in the Old Testament, where it was principally the Hebrews, not 00:33:30.960 --> 00:33:34.720 exclusively, but principally the Hebrew people, you know, once you get past 00:33:34.880 --> 00:33:38.320 A Abraham, there were many believers before Abraham, but he was one 00:33:38.480 --> 00:33:41.040 em one among them And I think that's important to know. 00:33:41.040 --> 00:33:42.480 Abraham wasn't a Hebrew. 00:33:42.480 --> 00:33:43.680 He wasn't an Israelite. 00:33:43.680 --> 00:33:47.520 That was that was his grandson who became the father of that 00:33:47.520 --> 00:33:49.840 people. Abraham was just a believer. 00:33:49.840 --> 00:33:52.960 He believed in the promise of Christ, which made him a Christian. 00:33:52.960 --> 00:33:56.320 And he learned it from his father, and we have no reason 00:33:56.320 --> 00:33:59.920 to believe that that was not a commonly held belief by others, 00:33:59.920 --> 00:34:02.240 some of whom may not have been related. 00:34:02.240 --> 00:34:05.440 I mean, they were in the area, so they're probably somewhat related, 00:34:05.440 --> 00:34:09.520 but it wouldn't necessarily have been exactly the same clan. 00:34:09.520 --> 00:34:14.960 And we see in European history that much of the the mythology 00:34:14.960 --> 00:34:20.000 points to echoes of the Christian faith having once been held in 00:34:20.000 --> 00:34:22.960 places where it died out, where it turned into myth and it 00:34:22.960 --> 00:34:25.120 turned into then paganism. 00:34:25.120 --> 00:34:29.040 But at one time people far distant from the Middle East had 00:34:29.040 --> 00:34:33.920 at least some kernel of the gospel promise promises that God gave 00:34:34.080 --> 00:34:36.640 well in advance of Christ's birth. 00:34:36.640 --> 00:34:37.200 And so 00:34:39.040 --> 00:34:43.200 God uses different races and different times for different purposes, and that's 00:34:43.200 --> 00:34:44.240 to his glory. 00:34:44.240 --> 00:34:47.360 We don't get to rob him of his glory because again, we 00:34:47.360 --> 00:34:49.120 have a duty to our fathers. 00:34:49.120 --> 00:34:52.880 My fathers are English and German predominantly, and you know, more broadly 00:34:52.960 --> 00:34:55.440 all of northwestern Europe Europe. 00:34:55.440 --> 00:34:57.040 Those are my people. 00:34:57.040 --> 00:34:59.440 Other people Other people are not my people. 00:34:59.440 --> 00:35:01.440 That's not a hateful thing to say. 00:35:01.440 --> 00:35:06.000 If you are Chinese, you're not my people, and I'm not your 00:35:06.000 --> 00:35:08.240 people, and that's not a hateful thing to say. 00:35:08.240 --> 00:35:12.880 It's an acknowledgement that our roots, our commonality, goes back very far. 00:35:12.880 --> 00:35:15.760 Whereas the roots that I have with someone like Corey are in 00:35:15.760 --> 00:35:17.840 the much more recent past. 00:35:17.840 --> 00:35:21.760 You know, we both have ancestors who were here in colonial days 00:35:21.840 --> 00:35:23.600 from earliest colonial days. 00:35:23.600 --> 00:35:27.680 We're probably related many times over, even on this continent, and certainly 00:35:27.840 --> 00:35:30.800 in in Europe, that's how it works. 00:35:30.800 --> 00:35:33.760 When y you are the of the same people as someone else, 00:35:33.760 --> 00:35:35.840 it means that you're you're family. 00:35:35.840 --> 00:35:39.040 And I think that's I think next we're gonna think th next 00:35:39.040 --> 00:35:42.240 thing we're going to talk about is the fourth commandment and how 00:35:42.240 --> 00:35:47.120 the obedience to the fourth commandment, particularly as it's explained by Luther, 00:35:47.120 --> 00:35:49.600 is a fundamental part of all of this. 00:35:49.600 --> 00:35:54.160 Your duty to obey and to honor your father and your mother 00:35:54.400 --> 00:35:58.160 doesn't end with those two human beings. 00:35:58.160 --> 00:36:01.600 There's no excuse, well, yeah, God says I have to obey my 00:36:01.600 --> 00:36:03.280 dad, but my grandpa, whatever. 00:36:03.280 --> 00:36:06.160 He's not, he's not enumerated, I can do whatever I want to 00:36:06.160 --> 00:36:10.000 him. Even if for the sake of argument such thought were were 00:36:10.000 --> 00:36:14.400 possible, the only way that I, as a man, could honor my 00:36:14.400 --> 00:36:19.040 father, would be to respect his duty to honor his father, which 00:36:19.040 --> 00:36:23.040 would require obeying his grand his father, my grandfather. 00:36:23.040 --> 00:36:27.200 So even if you take the most literal, strict reading of the 00:36:27.200 --> 00:36:30.560 fourth commandment, which we believe is Lutheran's, is not permissible. 00:36:30.560 --> 00:36:34.000 But even if you did that, it doesn't change your fundamental duty 00:36:34.000 --> 00:36:38.720 to honor and to obey your ancestors again unless it contravenes the 00:36:38.720 --> 00:36:41.680 first commandment, where we are fear, love, and trust in God above 00:36:41.760 --> 00:36:43.040 above all things. 00:36:43.040 --> 00:36:47.120 If your choice is between God and your father, you choose God. 00:36:47.120 --> 00:36:51.920 Short of that, you obey your father in obedience to God, and 00:36:51.920 --> 00:36:54.240 you obey all of your fathers before you. 00:36:54.240 --> 00:36:59.120 And that requires a respect and an honor of what is ultimately 00:36:59.120 --> 00:37:00.160 your race. 00:37:00.160 --> 00:37:02.400 That is not idolatry or of race. 00:37:02.400 --> 00:37:05.760 That is an acknowledgement that how God made you, whatever you are. 00:37:05.760 --> 00:37:08.480 Like when I'm saying these things, I'm not talking to white people. 00:37:08.480 --> 00:37:09.680 I don't know who's listening. 00:37:09.680 --> 00:37:10.640 I've said this before. 00:37:10.640 --> 00:37:13.920 If you're Chinese, if you're African, if you can be anything that 00:37:13.920 --> 00:37:19.360 God has created, you have a duty to honor your fathers, going 00:37:19.360 --> 00:37:23.760 back to Noah and going back to Adam and everyone in between. 00:37:23.760 --> 00:37:26.080 That is obedience to the fourth commandment. 00:37:26.080 --> 00:37:30.160 I'm not saying my fathers are better than your fathers, and therefore 00:37:30.160 --> 00:37:33.280 you should honor mine and said, no, that that would be disobedience 00:37:33.280 --> 00:37:33.760 to God. 00:37:34.240 --> 00:37:36.880 This is not a white message. 00:37:36.880 --> 00:37:41.440 This is this is the Christian faith that we honor our fathers 00:37:41.440 --> 00:37:43.440 in time immemorial. 00:37:43.440 --> 00:37:46.400 And doing that is anathema in this day. 00:37:46.720 --> 00:37:51.040 To say that will cause you to be accused of racism and 00:37:51.040 --> 00:37:53.680 whatever supremacy your your race happens to be. 00:37:53.680 --> 00:37:56.400 Turns out it's always white, no one else can be a supremacist, 00:37:56.400 --> 00:37:58.560 which is a subject for another day. 00:37:58.560 --> 00:38:02.720 But the fact that that pattern keeps playing out should give Christians 00:38:02.720 --> 00:38:06.560 pause. It should make you very concerned that you're being told by 00:38:06.560 --> 00:38:08.560 the world, hey, maybe don't obey God. 00:38:08.560 --> 00:38:10.720 That sounds like it's going a little too far. 00:38:10.720 --> 00:38:13.520 That message, if you're hearing it in your ear, that is not 00:38:13.520 --> 00:38:14.720 coming from God. 00:38:15.040 --> 00:38:17.840 And so we turn to the commandments and we turn to Scripture 00:38:18.000 --> 00:38:21.360 to see what God says so that we can continue to obey 00:38:21.360 --> 00:38:24.880 God. And if the world hates us for it, frankly, that just 00:38:24.880 --> 00:38:26.640 tells us that we're obeying God. 00:38:26.640 --> 00:38:30.000 God promised many times you'll be hated for his sake. 00:38:30.000 --> 00:38:33.040 So if the world loves you, that should make you much more 00:38:33.040 --> 00:38:35.360 nervous than if the world hates you. 00:38:35.600 --> 00:38:38.320 Just address two points quickly because I know they will come up 00:38:38.320 --> 00:38:41.040 in comments if I do not address them now, so it makes 00:38:41.040 --> 00:38:44.320 more sense to do it now instead of six times in comments. 00:38:44.560 --> 00:38:47.520 When I said that they were not one people at the Tower 00:38:47.520 --> 00:38:50.400 of Babel, I'm looking at the Greek here And the word used 00:38:50.400 --> 00:38:54.400 is Genos instead of Ethnos, Ethnos being the word that is typically 00:38:54.400 --> 00:38:59.200 used for race or people group that appears many times in Scripture, 00:38:59.200 --> 00:39:01.840 which is what we're talking about here one hundred and sixty one 00:39:01.840 --> 00:39:04.800 times in the New Testament, just shy of seven hundred in the 00:39:04.800 --> 00:39:08.320 Septuagint. And in case anyone thinks I'm playing games with the Greek, 00:39:08.320 --> 00:39:13.600 it appears five hundred and fifty sometimes as Goy in the Hebrew. 00:39:13.600 --> 00:39:16.560 But the point that I'm making is Genos is used there, and 00:39:16.560 --> 00:39:20.080 that means they're all one generation One generation or one family as 00:39:20.080 --> 00:39:23.200 opposed to one ethnos that is a different thing. 00:39:23.200 --> 00:39:25.840 Of course at the time they would have all been very much 00:39:25.840 --> 00:39:30.320 more closely related because there had been less time for genetic drift 00:39:30.480 --> 00:39:34.240 and changes in allele frequency, etc., see our previous episode for more 00:39:34.240 --> 00:39:34.960 on that. 00:39:34.960 --> 00:39:38.080 But the point that is being made is that these people are 00:39:38.080 --> 00:39:40.880 all closely related and know each other. 00:39:40.880 --> 00:39:46.000 Because if you think about it, these are probably grandparents and grandchildren, 00:39:46.000 --> 00:39:50.560 great grandparents, not too many generations of a span there. 00:39:50.560 --> 00:39:54.080 So even if you are as far away as possible on this, 00:39:54.080 --> 00:39:57.440 you are still going to be, say, a great grandchild of Ham 00:39:57.440 --> 00:40:00.000 versus a great grandchild of Shem. 00:40:00.000 --> 00:40:02.800 So these are still a fairly closely related people group. 00:40:02.800 --> 00:40:06.320 That was the distinction I was making there between those two terms. 00:40:06.320 --> 00:40:09.440 And then when it comes to Abram, there are some who have 00:40:09.440 --> 00:40:13.280 made the argument that Abram was probably a pagan before he was 00:40:13.280 --> 00:40:15.920 called. Scripture does not actually tell us. 00:40:15.920 --> 00:40:21.520 Scripture tells us that Terra was at least an idolater. 00:40:21.520 --> 00:40:26.160 He may also have served to some degree the one true God, 00:40:26.160 --> 00:40:29.840 because that would have been carried down possibly from his ancestors, but 00:40:29.840 --> 00:40:33.280 yes, in Joshua twenty four it does say that he served other 00:40:33.280 --> 00:40:36.000 gods. It does not say that notably of Abram. 00:40:36.480 --> 00:40:38.960 Although one way to take that of course would be that it 00:40:38.960 --> 00:40:43.520 was God's initiative coming to Abram, giving him faith, calling him out 00:40:43.520 --> 00:40:45.760 of a pagan setting, because at the least he was in a 00:40:45.760 --> 00:40:46.720 pagan setting. 00:40:46.720 --> 00:40:51.200 So just clearing those up now instead of fielding comments later. 00:40:51.760 --> 00:40:52.800 Thank you for that. 00:40:52.800 --> 00:40:55.280 Uh do you want to talk about the fourth commandment before we 00:40:55.280 --> 00:40:56.480 move on to the New Testament? 00:40:56.480 --> 00:40:57.040 Aaron Powell I 00:40:57.040 --> 00:40:59.760 mean really I would just be echoing what you said for Lutherans. 00:40:59.760 --> 00:41:01.040 This is going to be very straightforward. 00:41:01.360 --> 00:41:02.960 You've read this in the small catechism. 00:41:02.960 --> 00:41:05.440 I hope that you have also read this in the large catechism, 00:41:05.440 --> 00:41:08.880 particularly if you were a father or someone involved in teaching in 00:41:08.880 --> 00:41:11.760 your church, because it is incumbent on you then to have done 00:41:11.760 --> 00:41:17.520 that. But the fourth commandment is very clear actually if you read 00:41:17.520 --> 00:41:22.480 the fourth commandment in scriptural context and understand how God works with 00:41:22.720 --> 00:41:27.120 humanity in time and over time. 00:41:27.120 --> 00:41:29.120 Just look at the line of Christ. 00:41:29.120 --> 00:41:32.560 God works with Abraham. 00:41:32.560 --> 00:41:38.880 He works with his sons, grandsons, great-grandsons, great-great-grandsons, down through the line 00:41:39.120 --> 00:41:43.440 of Judah and David and all the others. 00:41:43.440 --> 00:41:48.000 So yes, you are supposed to honor your immediate mother and father, 00:41:48.000 --> 00:41:51.440 but you are also supposed to honor your grandparents and your great 00:41:51.440 --> 00:41:53.680 grandparents, and it extends back in time 00:41:54.640 --> 00:41:58.400 because you are not some sort of er individual. 00:41:58.400 --> 00:41:59.840 You do not stand alone. 00:41:59.840 --> 00:42:03.200 You are not an isolated island. 00:42:03.200 --> 00:42:06.720 You are part of a great chain that extends from you back 00:42:07.120 --> 00:42:11.360 through your parents and your grandparents all the way back to Noah 00:42:11.520 --> 00:42:13.840 and all the way back to Adam. 00:42:13.840 --> 00:42:17.600 You are ultimately a son of God, if you're a Christian, that 00:42:17.600 --> 00:42:20.160 is restored to you, but you are a son of God because 00:42:20.160 --> 00:42:24.640 Adam is described in Scripture as a son of God. 00:42:24.640 --> 00:42:25.280 And then 00:42:26.240 --> 00:42:30.080 so everything you are, everything you have from God, he has given 00:42:30.080 --> 00:42:33.600 you through this family line, through your race. 00:42:33.600 --> 00:42:38.400 And to ignore how God works is to ignore the real meaning 00:42:38.400 --> 00:42:39.840 of the fourth commandment. 00:42:39.840 --> 00:42:43.680 And of course, there's also the issue of the fourth commandment applying 00:42:43.680 --> 00:42:47.200 to those who are in authority in the kingdom of the left 00:42:47.200 --> 00:42:50.880 hand, but that's not really directly related to what we're discussing today. 00:42:50.880 --> 00:42:55.920 So the focus more is on the family, because that's one of 00:42:55.920 --> 00:43:00.160 the three estates, these three estates being the state, the church, and 00:43:00.160 --> 00:43:01.120 the family. 00:43:01.120 --> 00:43:03.600 We're really talking about the family today. 00:43:03.600 --> 00:43:07.200 And as the fourth commandment applies to the family, it applies to 00:43:07.200 --> 00:43:10.800 your entire family, not just your immediate family. 00:43:11.280 --> 00:43:13.520 So we mentioned, I think at the very beginning of the first 00:43:13.520 --> 00:43:18.000 episode, that one of those particular verses we would address was from 00:43:18.000 --> 00:43:19.840 Galatians three twenty-eight. 00:43:19.840 --> 00:43:24.480 You've probably all heard, you may have said yourself in arguing about 00:43:24.480 --> 00:43:28.400 race with another Christian, there is neither Jew nor Greek. 00:43:28.400 --> 00:43:31.920 Now that's in isolation, game over, right? 00:43:31.920 --> 00:43:36.800 I mean if God says there's no more of that, then obviously 00:43:36.960 --> 00:43:41.760 even if Even if race existed previously, it doesn't exist after Jesus. 00:43:41.760 --> 00:43:44.000 That's more or less the argument that's made. 00:43:44.000 --> 00:43:49.200 Now, it's a completely incoherent argument because it's based on proof texting, 00:43:49.200 --> 00:43:55.440 it's based on completely eliminating the entire context of that verse and 00:43:55.440 --> 00:43:59.600 then making a point that as we've said in past episodes nobody 00:43:59.600 --> 00:44:02.160 ever made before this past century. 00:44:02.160 --> 00:44:05.600 No one ever said this stuff that we're refuting today. 00:44:05.600 --> 00:44:09.120 No one ever said that there were no races until the last 00:44:09.120 --> 00:44:12.240 hundred and fifty years, and less than that really. 00:44:12.240 --> 00:44:15.760 So I'm going to give you the full context for Galatians three 00:44:15.920 --> 00:44:19.520 twenty eight, beginning with verse twenty five and following. 00:44:19.520 --> 00:44:23.280 But now that faith has come, we are no longer under a 00:44:23.280 --> 00:44:27.920 guardian, for in Christ Jesus you are all sons of God through 00:44:27.920 --> 00:44:31.760 faith. For as many of you as were baptized into Christ have 00:44:31.760 --> 00:44:35.520 put on Christ, there is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither 00:44:35.520 --> 00:44:39.920 slave nor free, there is no male and female, for you are 00:44:39.920 --> 00:44:43.360 all one in Christ Jesus, and if you are Christ's, then you 00:44:43.440 --> 00:44:48.000 are Abraham's offspring, heirs according to the promise. 00:44:48.000 --> 00:44:50.960 Now there's a lot going on in this verse and that passage 00:44:51.040 --> 00:44:53.280 as we mentioned previously. 00:44:53.280 --> 00:44:56.320 I want to highlight particularly that if you when you read Galatians 00:44:56.560 --> 00:45:00.640 3 in general, there's a gr sorry, all of Galatians, Paul is 00:45:00.640 --> 00:45:06.000 making an extensive argument about the rights of inheritance. 00:45:06.000 --> 00:45:11.360 As a Christian, as an adopted son of God, you receive the 00:45:11.360 --> 00:45:16.160 inheritance rights along with Christ to eternal life. 00:45:16.160 --> 00:45:18.880 And through Christ you receive that inheritance. 00:45:18.880 --> 00:45:21.840 Now it says there, you are all sons of God. 00:45:21.840 --> 00:45:24.160 That's talking about women too. 00:45:24.160 --> 00:45:30.560 Women in baptism become sons of God for the specific reason that 00:45:30.560 --> 00:45:33.440 inheritance is limited to sons. 00:45:33.440 --> 00:45:37.440 So when the verse says there is no male and female, it 00:45:37.440 --> 00:45:40.400 is not a denial of biological sex. 00:45:40.400 --> 00:45:45.200 It is saying that it doesn't matter how God created you in 00:45:45.200 --> 00:45:49.040 your app in your baptism, by receiving the gift of faith, you 00:45:49.040 --> 00:45:53.440 become a son of God, you receive the inheritance of eternal life, 00:45:53.440 --> 00:45:56.320 that the rights and privileges of being a son of God, as 00:45:56.320 --> 00:46:00.640 it is Corey just said, are extended to those who are adopted, 00:46:00.640 --> 00:46:03.520 adopted by faith through baptism. 00:46:03.520 --> 00:46:07.840 So when someone tries to use this verse that says there is 00:46:07.840 --> 00:46:11.680 neither Jew nor Greek and say that means that race doesn't exist, 00:46:11.680 --> 00:46:14.880 or that means that race was a sin and Jesus fixed it. 00:46:14.880 --> 00:46:18.560 You must completely deny the entire context of this passage. 00:46:18.560 --> 00:46:21.280 And frankly you must deny the entire book. 00:46:21.280 --> 00:46:25.840 Because the book is talking about in this particular passage Are talking 00:46:25.840 --> 00:46:27.120 about salvation. 00:46:27.120 --> 00:46:30.400 This is an explicitly soteriological passage. 00:46:30.400 --> 00:46:35.680 It is saying, How are we received in Christ by faith? 00:46:35.680 --> 00:46:37.760 We are received as sons of God. 00:46:37.760 --> 00:46:40.480 So no, there is no male and female because you are all 00:46:40.480 --> 00:46:42.000 received as sons of God. 00:46:42.000 --> 00:46:43.360 Now people are following that. 00:46:43.360 --> 00:46:46.720 That's not a denial of biological sex any more than it's a 00:46:46.720 --> 00:46:48.560 denial of biological race. 00:46:48.560 --> 00:46:52.240 So for anyone who has ever said there is neither Jew nor 00:46:52.240 --> 00:46:57.360 Greek as a refutation of what we're saying about biological race, they're 00:46:57.360 --> 00:46:58.640 committing a heresy. 00:46:58.640 --> 00:47:03.120 They're denying the soteriological basis of this precious passage that is said 00:47:03.040 --> 00:47:06.720 That is saying, no matter who you are, it doesn't matter who 00:47:06.720 --> 00:47:07.280 you are. 00:47:07.280 --> 00:47:10.320 And that's what we say, that's what we believe is what we 00:47:10.320 --> 00:47:12.640 will take before the judgment throne of God. 00:47:12.640 --> 00:47:15.600 It does not matter who you are. 00:47:15.600 --> 00:47:19.840 If you're a human being, Jesus Christ died on the cross for 00:47:19.840 --> 00:47:21.600 you for your sins. 00:47:21.600 --> 00:47:26.640 When you receive the gift of faith, you receive that forgiveness which 00:47:26.640 --> 00:47:29.120 was already poured out on the cross. 00:47:29.120 --> 00:47:33.520 Your sins have already been paid for, and you receive that forgiveness 00:47:33.520 --> 00:47:38.400 when you received as a son of God in baptism through your 00:47:38.400 --> 00:47:41.040 faith. This is all part and parcel. 00:47:41.040 --> 00:47:43.040 This is all talking about salvation. 00:47:43.040 --> 00:47:45.600 And so it is utterly grotesque. 00:47:45.600 --> 00:47:50.400 It is demonic for any Christian to take this passage and say, 00:47:50.400 --> 00:47:54.160 well, there's no race because look it says there it's saying Jew 00:47:54.160 --> 00:47:55.840 and Greek or Jew and Gentile. 00:47:55.840 --> 00:47:57.120 There's none of that. 00:47:57.120 --> 00:47:59.840 Well if you If you pay attention to the words we talked 00:47:59.840 --> 00:48:04.320 before, to pay very careful attention when the possessive is used. 00:48:04.320 --> 00:48:08.720 This says, we are no longer under a guardian, for in Christ 00:48:08.720 --> 00:48:11.520 Jesus you are all sons of God. 00:48:11.520 --> 00:48:14.080 And then it says there is neither Jew nor Greek. 00:48:14.080 --> 00:48:18.240 Now if you actually understand the English language and you believe scripture 00:48:18.240 --> 00:48:23.840 and you pay attention, in Jesus Christ means something, because not every 00:48:23.840 --> 00:48:25.840 man is in Jesus Christ. 00:48:25.840 --> 00:48:29.760 There are billions of men who are not in Jesus Christ. 00:48:29.760 --> 00:48:34.080 They are damned because they do not have faith and they reject 00:48:34.080 --> 00:48:41.120 God. So to say that race doesn't exist, it obliterates this passage. 00:48:41.120 --> 00:48:44.320 It turns this passage that's something about the precious gift that is 00:48:44.320 --> 00:48:48.400 received only within the faith, and turns it into a Gnostic passage 00:48:48.400 --> 00:48:50.560 that nullifies creation itself. 00:48:50.560 --> 00:48:52.160 This is not a small matter. 00:48:52.160 --> 00:48:57.120 When men will destroy such a profoundly comforting passage for the sake 00:48:57.120 --> 00:49:01.840 of scoring political points to to say that race is not real, 00:49:01.840 --> 00:49:04.240 how are you gonna then say that sex is real? 00:49:04.240 --> 00:49:05.920 It says there's no male and female. 00:49:05.920 --> 00:49:08.160 So trannies are on the menu, right? 00:49:08.160 --> 00:49:11.280 You can be pansexual, you can have no sex, you can be 00:49:11.280 --> 00:49:15.680 just a human being with absolutely no particular qualities whatsoever. 00:49:15.680 --> 00:49:18.400 Because it says right there in Galatians 328. 00:49:18.400 --> 00:49:20.480 This is not how Christians read the Bible. 00:49:20.480 --> 00:49:22.640 It is not how Christians use the Bible. 00:49:22.640 --> 00:49:25.040 So I save this for this point because all the things that 00:49:25.040 --> 00:49:28.320 we've said in the past episode Episodes that are very upsetting because 00:49:28.320 --> 00:49:31.280 they fly in the face of what has been said about race 00:49:31.280 --> 00:49:32.720 for the last hundred years. 00:49:32.720 --> 00:49:37.600 If your refutation is there as J neither Jew nor Greek, you 00:49:37.600 --> 00:49:40.640 need to take a long hard pause and look at how you're 00:49:40.640 --> 00:49:43.440 receiving scripture and look at who's talking to you. 00:49:43.440 --> 00:49:44.880 Where did you get that idea? 00:49:44.880 --> 00:49:46.560 Because you didn't get it from God. 00:49:46.560 --> 00:49:51.280 There is no possible way for any Christian to read Galatians 3 00:49:51.280 --> 00:49:56.800 and come away thinking that sex and race and biological reality cease 00:49:56.800 --> 00:49:58.000 to exist. 00:49:58.000 --> 00:50:01.520 They cease to matter for the purpose of salvation. 00:50:01.520 --> 00:50:04.480 In fact, they never mattered for the purpose of salvation. 00:50:04.480 --> 00:50:06.880 God makes it explicit for our comfort. 00:50:06.880 --> 00:50:10.320 Do not rob scripture of its comfort to score political points. 00:50:10.800 --> 00:50:15.920 Really, if you're going to misinterpret Galatians 328, you have two choices. 00:50:15.920 --> 00:50:20.480 You can either make it completely incoherent by saying that Jew and 00:50:20.480 --> 00:50:24.000 Greek aren't real categories, and therefore scripture is just saying something that 00:50:24.000 --> 00:50:28.160 has no semantic context whatsoever, or you can make it into a 00:50:28.160 --> 00:50:32.080 Gnostic scripture and become something other than Christian. 00:50:32.080 --> 00:50:36.160 And I've definitely seen people do both of those. 00:50:36.160 --> 00:50:41.520 But on a tangentially related issue, lately I've been reading more, and 00:50:41.520 --> 00:50:45.120 I have two sets of scripture that don't have any of the 00:50:45.120 --> 00:50:48.880 little modern bits and pieces here and there, which is to say, 00:50:48.880 --> 00:50:52.480 chapter and headings and verses and all that. 00:50:52.480 --> 00:50:55.760 And I think this may be one of the best examples of 00:50:55.760 --> 00:50:56.960 arguments against the use 00:50:58.080 --> 00:51:00.560 of chapter numbers and verses 00:51:01.440 --> 00:51:06.240 because they literally split this section of the letter to the Galatians 00:51:06.560 --> 00:51:11.520 in half for well not quite half, but close for no reason, 00:51:11.520 --> 00:51:16.320 no good reason anyway, because if you continue on into chapter four, 00:51:16.320 --> 00:51:21.200 the next section is s should be directly attached to this bit 00:51:21.200 --> 00:51:25.760 in Galatians three, because it gives the explanation, I mean that an 00:51:25.760 --> 00:51:28.880 heir, as long as he is a child, is no different from 00:51:28.880 --> 00:51:32.000 a slave, though he is the owner of everything, but he is 00:51:32.000 --> 00:51:35.520 under guardians and managers until the date set by his father, in 00:51:35.520 --> 00:51:39.440 the same way, we also, when we were children, were enslaved to 00:51:39.440 --> 00:51:41.440 the elementary principles of the world. 00:51:41.440 --> 00:51:44.560 But when the fullness of time had come, God sent forth his 00:51:44.720 --> 00:51:48.880 Son, born of woman, born under the law, to redeem those who 00:51:48.880 --> 00:51:52.880 were under the law, so that we might receive adoption as sons. 00:51:52.880 --> 00:51:55.920 And because you are sons, God has sent the Spirit of his 00:51:56.000 --> 00:51:59.840 Son into our hearts crying, Abba, Father, so you are no longer 00:51:59.840 --> 00:52:03.280 a slave, but a son, and if a son, then an heir 00:52:03.280 --> 00:52:04.480 through God. 00:52:04.480 --> 00:52:08.960 So we see exactly what is being said earlier in the passage 00:52:08.960 --> 00:52:12.320 when you continue on to the part that for some reason has 00:52:12.320 --> 00:52:16.560 been segmented off as the beginning of the next chapter. 00:52:16.560 --> 00:52:20.320 And of course, we could go over Galatians three hundred twenty eight 00:52:20.320 --> 00:52:25.760 for a six hour episode just by itself, but the the core 00:52:25.760 --> 00:52:30.480 takeaway is that these are real categories, and that's why the verse 00:52:30.480 --> 00:52:31.840 has meaning. 00:52:31.840 --> 00:52:35.760 If these categories, Jew and Greek, which is to say race, slave 00:52:35.760 --> 00:52:39.680 and free, which is to say hierarchy essentially, male and female, which 00:52:39.680 --> 00:52:44.160 is to say biological sex, if these categories are not real, the 00:52:44.160 --> 00:52:46.800 verse doesn't have any meaning. 00:52:46.800 --> 00:52:49.760 It has meaning because they're real. 00:52:49.760 --> 00:52:53.920 And so the meaning is these very real things, these very real 00:52:53.920 --> 00:53:00.880 distinctions between and among people have no soteriological impact. 00:53:00.880 --> 00:53:04.960 Now, of course, there's an ancillary impact because obviously if you are 00:53:04.960 --> 00:53:08.880 descended from Christians in a Christian nation, you are more likely to 00:53:08.880 --> 00:53:13.040 be Christian because you're more likely to have had the means of 00:53:13.040 --> 00:53:14.400 grace in your life. 00:53:14.400 --> 00:53:17.200 You're more likely to have been baptized, you're more likely to have 00:53:17.200 --> 00:53:18.720 heard the word, etc. 00:53:19.440 --> 00:53:19.760 But 00:53:20.880 --> 00:53:26.640 in an absolute sense, whether you are Jewish or Greek or Roman 00:53:26.720 --> 00:53:32.000 or German or French or Chinese does not matter to whether or 00:53:32.000 --> 00:53:37.680 not the gospel is for you, soteriologically your race is irrelevant. 00:53:37.680 --> 00:53:41.360 In a practical sense, again, it may be relevant because again, living 00:53:41.360 --> 00:53:44.880 in a Christian nation, you are more likely to be Christian, and 00:53:44.880 --> 00:53:47.360 that is one of the reason these things matter and why we 00:53:47.360 --> 00:53:49.120 are discussing them. 00:53:49.120 --> 00:53:54.960 The same as with race, so with hierarchy, regardless of where you 00:53:54.960 --> 00:53:59.120 fall on the social hierarchy, which is a very real thing, there 00:53:59.120 --> 00:54:02.240 are slave and free. 00:54:02.240 --> 00:54:03.600 Even today. 00:54:03.600 --> 00:54:06.800 Slavery is incidentally still legal in the United States. 00:54:06.800 --> 00:54:11.440 Go ahead and read the amendment if you don't believe me. 00:54:11.440 --> 00:54:16.640 But the hierarchy is real, but it does not have soterological impact. 00:54:16.640 --> 00:54:20.400 You can be saved regardless of whether you are the wealthiest man 00:54:20.400 --> 00:54:23.600 in a nation or the poorest man in a nation. 00:54:23.600 --> 00:54:27.360 And the same holds for biological sex. 00:54:27.360 --> 00:54:32.560 Whether or not you are saved does not depend on whether you 00:54:32.560 --> 00:54:34.640 are male or female. 00:54:34.640 --> 00:54:41.360 And these are also polemical because these are directly refuting various heresies 00:54:41.360 --> 00:54:43.600 that were around at the time. 00:54:43.600 --> 00:54:46.320 Because you have the Judaizers who say you have to become a 00:54:46.320 --> 00:54:48.800 Jew before you can become a Christian. 00:54:48.800 --> 00:54:51.600 Well, neither Jew nor Greek is written in part against them. 00:54:52.640 --> 00:54:55.520 You have those who would contend that well it's only the free 00:54:55.520 --> 00:55:01.360 born who are of the quality necessary to have access to salvation 00:55:01.440 --> 00:55:03.680 to be worthy of this gift from God and no, that's neither 00:55:04.160 --> 00:55:06.880 slave nor free, it's condemning that heresy. 00:55:06.880 --> 00:55:10.080 And then you had those who would say that women could not 00:55:10.080 --> 00:55:14.240 be saved because woman is the weaker vessel, that part is true, 00:55:14.240 --> 00:55:17.200 but that because she's the weaker vessel she cannot receive this gift 00:55:17.200 --> 00:55:20.240 of God and says no, there is no male and female. 00:55:20.240 --> 00:55:22.720 It is a condemnation of that heresy. 00:55:22.720 --> 00:55:25.440 So you have to know what you're reading in scripture and what 00:55:25.440 --> 00:55:29.760 is being said, and if you take the modernist approach, if you 00:55:29.760 --> 00:55:35.200 deny these categories, you rob the scripture of any coherent meaning, you 00:55:35.200 --> 00:55:40.160 destroy the polemical nature against heresies, and you are going to destroy, 00:55:40.160 --> 00:55:43.120 if not your own faith, then the faith of your children or 00:55:43.120 --> 00:55:44.400 your grandchildren. 00:55:44.400 --> 00:55:48.640 Because they will recognize at some point, well, I was told there's 00:55:48.800 --> 00:55:53.920 no male and female, so how can I possibly say that homosexuality 00:55:53.920 --> 00:55:54.480 is wrong? 00:55:54.480 --> 00:55:59.760 Because Because that depends on a difference biologically between men and women. 00:55:59.760 --> 00:56:02.720 Well, so it can't be wrong because of what I was told. 00:56:02.720 --> 00:56:06.320 Well, being transgender can't be wrong, because if there's no male and 00:56:06.320 --> 00:56:09.360 female, then it doesn't matter which one you claim to be. 00:56:09.920 --> 00:56:12.000 These are incoherent. 00:56:12.000 --> 00:56:12.640 They mean nothing. 00:56:12.640 --> 00:56:14.880 They mean whatever I want them to mean. 00:56:14.880 --> 00:56:19.200 That is the reality you will see if you start by denying 00:56:19.200 --> 00:56:21.280 these. It doesn't matter what the reason is. 00:56:21.280 --> 00:56:24.560 It never matters what the reason is if you are supporting a 00:56:24.560 --> 00:56:27.840 lie. Is it worse to support a lie willfully for a malicious 00:56:27.840 --> 00:56:29.200 reason? Of course. 00:56:29.200 --> 00:56:33.200 But Satan will use your support of the lie even if you 00:56:33.200 --> 00:56:37.120 believe it was undertaken in good faith, even if insofar as it 00:56:37.120 --> 00:56:39.840 is possible to defend a lie in good faith you were doing 00:56:39.840 --> 00:56:43.520 so. Satan just needs that little toe hold. 00:56:43.520 --> 00:56:47.120 And that's what you give him when you deny any of the 00:56:47.120 --> 00:56:49.840 categories in Galatians three twenty-eight. 00:56:50.000 --> 00:56:50.240 And 00:56:50.240 --> 00:56:54.080 this is why we're constantly emphasizing the importance of not embracing any 00:56:54.080 --> 00:56:56.880 lies. We're talking about six words there. 00:56:56.880 --> 00:56:58.800 There is neither Jew nor Greek. 00:56:58.800 --> 00:57:00.160 That's six words. 00:57:00.160 --> 00:57:04.240 If you abuse those, you can destroy the Christian faith by adopting 00:57:04.240 --> 00:57:09.040 one lie after another that must necessarily follow from the lie you 00:57:09.040 --> 00:57:09.840 already hold. 00:57:09.840 --> 00:57:12.160 As Cory just pointed out, the same as with there is neither 00:57:12.320 --> 00:57:13.840 there's no male and female. 00:57:13.840 --> 00:57:16.960 You will destroy the Christian faith in short order. 00:57:16.960 --> 00:57:20.720 If you use that verse, if you cherry pick that, if you 00:57:20.720 --> 00:57:23.920 invert it to mean literally the opposite of what it's saying by 00:57:23.920 --> 00:57:27.760 saying that it's not really a true category, that it's something that 00:57:27.760 --> 00:57:31.520 God has erased, which would imply that it's the result of sin. 00:57:31.520 --> 00:57:34.240 And this is another thing that I referred to I think in 00:57:34.240 --> 00:57:37.680 the I think it was the episode on Frame, pointed out that 00:57:37.840 --> 00:57:45.120 BLM on their website, they actually went through Galatians 3.28 and inverted 00:57:45.120 --> 00:57:48.480 it piece by piece as their bullet points for what they were 00:57:48.480 --> 00:57:52.480 doing. You know, BLM is obviously going to be anti-slavery, so they've 00:57:52.480 --> 00:57:54.400 got neither slave nor free down. 00:57:54.400 --> 00:57:55.360 Everyone's free. 00:57:55.360 --> 00:57:56.640 They're freer than ever. 00:57:56.640 --> 00:58:00.800 Freedom is just flowing down the gutters today when BLM is on 00:58:00.800 --> 00:58:01.440 the march. 00:58:01.440 --> 00:58:04.720 There's neither Drew nor Greek will it's all about anti racism. 00:58:04.720 --> 00:58:05.600 Being anti racist 00:58:06.560 --> 00:58:07.920 is sacramental. 00:58:07.920 --> 00:58:11.760 And if you have to burn and destroy cities as a performance 00:58:11.760 --> 00:58:15.200 of that sacrament, your blessings flow from it. 00:58:15.200 --> 00:58:16.880 And there's no male and female. 00:58:16.880 --> 00:58:21.040 We pointed out that they were advocating homosexuality, the destruction of the 00:58:21.040 --> 00:58:22.880 nuclear family, and 00:58:23.840 --> 00:58:28.960 treating human beings as sexually fungible in a way that if you 00:58:28.960 --> 00:58:32.960 look at the purpose of BLM as stated, doesn't make any sense. 00:58:32.960 --> 00:58:34.560 Why are they talking about the family? 00:58:34.560 --> 00:58:35.920 Why are they talking about kids? 00:58:35.920 --> 00:58:37.920 Why are they talking about sexuality? 00:58:37.920 --> 00:58:40.160 Well, Satan knows what he's doing. 00:58:40.160 --> 00:58:44.800 Satan knows that Galatians 3 28 is the distillation of many elements 00:58:44.800 --> 00:58:46.400 of the Christian faith. 00:58:46.400 --> 00:58:50.080 There's an intersection here of everything that's happening today. 00:58:50.080 --> 00:58:53.040 And so we save this verse to deal with in this episode 00:58:53.360 --> 00:58:56.000 because Satan cares about it. 00:58:56.000 --> 00:58:59.280 So again, if you ever hear someone, there's neither Jew nor Greek, 00:58:59.280 --> 00:59:00.880 that means that there's no race. 00:59:00.880 --> 00:59:04.480 That w once you've processed this and you go back and you 00:59:04.480 --> 00:59:07.600 read Galatians and do some thinking on your own. 00:59:07.600 --> 00:59:11.200 I we were talking about this before the before we began recording. 00:59:11.200 --> 00:59:14.720 We don't want you to listen to what we're saying and instantly 00:59:14.720 --> 00:59:15.840 agree with all of it. 00:59:15.840 --> 00:59:18.880 Because if you'll instantly agree with us when we say something you've 00:59:18.880 --> 00:59:22.160 never heard before that's the opposite of what you've been told, then 00:59:22.720 --> 00:59:25.360 when the next guy comes along and says something else that seems 00:59:25.360 --> 00:59:28.240 novel and exciting, you're just gonna believe that too. 00:59:28.240 --> 00:59:31.920 I would much prefer that you hear us say these things and 00:59:31.920 --> 00:59:33.440 you struggle with them. 00:59:33.440 --> 00:59:36.560 The more you struggle, the more you're gonna turn to God's word 00:59:36.640 --> 00:59:38.640 to say, is that right? 00:59:38.640 --> 00:59:39.920 Are these guys insane? 00:59:39.920 --> 00:59:40.880 Are they lying to me? 00:59:40.880 --> 00:59:42.240 What's the trick here? 00:59:42.240 --> 00:59:45.200 I want you to turn to God in these questions. 00:59:45.200 --> 00:59:48.560 Because if somebody can come along and horn swoggle you with a 00:59:48.560 --> 00:59:49.520 bunch of fancy words. 00:59:49.760 --> 00:59:51.920 we try not to use fancy words, but we try not to 00:59:51.920 --> 00:59:55.600 use rhetorical tricks, and we particularly point out when others do that. 00:59:55.600 --> 00:59:57.680 But the world is full of that. 00:59:57.680 --> 01:00:01.680 People will try to just weave a web around you and bury 01:00:01.680 --> 01:00:04.480 you to the point that you don't you don't know how to 01:00:04.480 --> 01:00:05.760 navigate your way out of it. 01:00:05.760 --> 01:00:08.320 And so just say, oh, either I don't care, or I guess 01:00:08.320 --> 01:00:09.040 I'll agree with that. 01:00:09.040 --> 01:00:10.560 That seems fine. 01:00:10.560 --> 01:00:13.040 If it just clicks, if you hear it and for the first 01:00:13.040 --> 01:00:16.480 time, what we're saying absolutely makes sense, we're not saying doubt it. 01:00:16.480 --> 01:00:20.400 Like the if if if we are unlocking something that has been 01:00:20.400 --> 01:00:24.480 bothering you for years, that's just us giving you the key to 01:00:24.560 --> 01:00:26.080 to finally piece that together. 01:00:26.080 --> 01:00:30.400 But if you struggle with these things, continue to struggle. 01:00:30.400 --> 01:00:32.000 Don't let that be a bad sign. 01:00:32.000 --> 01:00:34.160 I don't want you to believe right away just because we said 01:00:34.160 --> 01:00:36.640 something. That's not good for your soul. 01:00:36.640 --> 01:00:39.440 You should hear something, and if it's you're hearing it for the 01:00:39.440 --> 01:00:42.320 first time and it's contrary to what you've been taught. 01:00:42.320 --> 01:00:45.120 As we've said repeatedly, that should make you nervous. 01:00:45.120 --> 01:00:46.640 That should get your hackles up. 01:00:46.640 --> 01:00:49.840 You should be on the defensive when a man tells you something 01:00:49.840 --> 01:00:51.920 contrary to what you've been taught. 01:00:51.920 --> 01:00:52.960 However, if 01:00:53.840 --> 01:00:57.520 the argument is coming from Scripture, or at least is presented from 01:00:57.520 --> 01:01:00.880 Scripture, go back to Scripture. 01:01:00.880 --> 01:01:02.560 Go read Galatians 3. 01:01:02.560 --> 01:01:03.760 Go read Galatians. 01:01:03.760 --> 01:01:05.440 Forget the chapters and verses. 01:01:05.440 --> 01:01:07.520 I've said before: if you don't have a Bible that's just missing 01:01:07.920 --> 01:01:12.400 all that garbage, you can go to esv.org, click on the gear, 01:01:12.400 --> 01:01:13.440 you can turn it all off. 01:01:13.440 --> 01:01:17.040 You'll have no footnotes, no headers, no verse numbers, none of that 01:01:17.040 --> 01:01:20.240 crap. You'll just have Galatians and you'll know when you're done because 01:01:20.560 --> 01:01:23.920 it'll say Ephesians, because they show the book distinction, so you know 01:01:23.920 --> 01:01:24.960 which book you're in. 01:01:24.960 --> 01:01:27.440 That is how you should read scripture at least some of the 01:01:27.440 --> 01:01:31.600 time. Go read Galatians as a whole and see if you can 01:01:31.600 --> 01:01:33.280 c possibly come away with that. 01:01:33.760 --> 01:01:38.320 thinking that Paul, inspired by the Holy Spirit, was saying race isn't 01:01:38.320 --> 01:01:41.360 real. It's not gonna happen. 01:01:41.600 --> 01:01:44.560 if you have the Holy Spirit, that will not be your conclusion. 01:01:44.560 --> 01:01:47.760 And if there are men who are saying those things to you, 01:01:47.760 --> 01:01:52.240 they're in profound error and they're jeopardizing the souls of everyone who 01:01:52.240 --> 01:01:53.360 listens to them. 01:01:53.360 --> 01:01:57.280 We're saying these things because they're not being sell said elsewhere, and 01:01:57.280 --> 01:01:58.400 they're pivotal. 01:01:58.400 --> 01:01:59.760 It's absolutely pivotal. 01:01:59.760 --> 01:02:05.280 The Galatians 328 contains so much truth in so few verses, and 01:02:05.280 --> 01:02:07.760 every word of it is being destroyed in the world. 01:02:07.760 --> 01:02:08.960 Not theologically. 01:02:08.960 --> 01:02:12.240 Now it's being destroyed in our churches by men twisting these words 01:02:12.240 --> 01:02:16.080 to mean the opposite, but it's being destroyed in the world at 01:02:16.080 --> 01:02:21.440 large on a secular basis, on the basis that, well, race can't 01:02:21.440 --> 01:02:24.480 be real because look at the division it's causing socially. 01:02:24.480 --> 01:02:25.040 Well 01:02:26.400 --> 01:02:30.320 Reread Genesis where God talks about the Tower of Babel and what 01:02:30.320 --> 01:02:33.040 he thought about the unity of man. 01:02:33.040 --> 01:02:39.040 When you hear unity of man as a watchword for the ultimate 01:02:39.040 --> 01:02:42.240 morality, does that come from God? 01:02:42.240 --> 01:02:44.480 What unifies us? 01:02:44.480 --> 01:02:48.000 Man is to be united in one thing and one thing only. 01:02:48.000 --> 01:02:51.440 That is the worship of the one true God. 01:02:51.440 --> 01:02:54.320 Worship of the one true God is only possible by faith. 01:02:54.320 --> 01:02:58.320 So when Galatians is talking about us being one by virtue of 01:02:58.320 --> 01:03:01.920 being adopted as sons of God, that is not an inversion of 01:03:01.920 --> 01:03:06.400 Babel. That is the perfection of our salvation. 01:03:06.400 --> 01:03:08.320 It does not erase the physical. 01:03:08.320 --> 01:03:10.160 It does not erase your race. 01:03:10.160 --> 01:03:14.000 It does not erase your hierarchical status in society. 01:03:14.000 --> 01:03:16.080 And it doesn't erase your sex. 01:03:16.080 --> 01:03:18.720 All of those things are how God created you. 01:03:18.960 --> 01:03:21.840 And all of those things we have no br reason to believe 01:03:21.920 --> 01:03:23.840 they won't be preserved in heaven. 01:03:23.840 --> 01:03:27.360 Now, the slave nor free free thing is the one that's up 01:03:27.360 --> 01:03:27.920 in the air. 01:03:27.920 --> 01:03:28.800 We don't know what 01:03:30.240 --> 01:03:31.520 freedom will be like. 01:03:31.520 --> 01:03:32.720 We can't imagine freedom. 01:03:32.720 --> 01:03:34.880 All we can imagine is a perverse freedom. 01:03:34.880 --> 01:03:38.160 We can't imagine the true freedom where the only things that we 01:03:38.160 --> 01:03:40.560 can possibly do are godly. 01:03:40.880 --> 01:03:42.160 That's That's heaven. 01:03:42.160 --> 01:03:43.360 That's the new earth. 01:03:43.360 --> 01:03:46.720 It's when anything you can conceive of wanting is going to be 01:03:46.720 --> 01:03:48.560 in accord with God's will. 01:03:48.560 --> 01:03:52.800 That is a profound comfort and it's it's unspeakably wonderful. 01:03:52.800 --> 01:03:55.760 We don't know how to comprehend that. 01:03:56.160 --> 01:03:59.520 The flip side of that, as we speak today, is slave. 01:03:59.520 --> 01:04:02.560 All slave means is property of another man. 01:04:02.560 --> 01:04:07.360 It means that a human is the property of another human. 01:04:07.360 --> 01:04:09.440 I don't know how that's going to play out in a new 01:04:09.440 --> 01:04:11.120 earth. Will there still be property? 01:04:11.120 --> 01:04:12.480 I think yes, absolutely. 01:04:12.480 --> 01:04:15.200 I don't think you can look at the Ten Commandments as you 01:04:15.200 --> 01:04:18.240 get to the six, seven, eight, nine, and ten in particular, and 01:04:18.240 --> 01:04:22.000 think that property rights are contrary to God's will. 01:04:22.000 --> 01:04:26.640 Did he really emphasize them so profoundly to his people and to 01:04:26.640 --> 01:04:27.280 the world? 01:04:27.600 --> 01:04:30.560 Written on our hearts, every man knows not to steal. 01:04:30.560 --> 01:04:32.160 He has to throw that away. 01:04:32.160 --> 01:04:34.320 He has to know he has to cease to care that he's 01:04:34.240 --> 01:04:37.200 doing something evil before before he'll steal. 01:04:37.200 --> 01:04:39.600 So property is written on our hearts. 01:04:39.600 --> 01:04:42.800 Whether we will continue to be property, whether we will continue to 01:04:42.800 --> 01:04:44.960 have hierarchy, it's not revealed. 01:04:44.960 --> 01:04:46.320 It's not something you have to worry about. 01:04:46.320 --> 01:04:50.160 And so I wouldn't go so far as to make a theological 01:04:50.160 --> 01:04:53.840 claim on the basis of this because those other categories are real, 01:04:53.840 --> 01:04:55.760 but I will tell you this. 01:04:55.760 --> 01:04:59.600 If your view of a man owning another man as property 01:05:00.800 --> 01:05:05.360 is so hellbent against it, you're gonna have a real hard time 01:05:05.360 --> 01:05:07.840 reconciling that with the rest of scripture. 01:05:07.840 --> 01:05:11.120 Because there are many places where slavery, where the ownership of a 01:05:11.120 --> 01:05:14.880 man is property, is given and it is not condemned per se. 01:05:15.280 --> 01:05:18.560 We're gonna do an entire episode just on slavery, but part of 01:05:18.560 --> 01:05:21.440 the reason we're going to do that is because these are all 01:05:21.440 --> 01:05:22.640 part of a whole. 01:05:22.640 --> 01:05:24.320 Why are we talking about race? 01:05:24.320 --> 01:05:25.920 Galatians 3 28. 01:05:25.920 --> 01:05:28.640 Why do we talk about the difference between men and women? 01:05:28.640 --> 01:05:30.240 Galatians three twenty eight. 01:05:30.240 --> 01:05:31.920 Why we talk about slavery? 01:05:32.000 --> 01:05:33.040 Same reason. 01:05:33.040 --> 01:05:35.680 All of these things that are under attack today, and isn't it 01:05:35.680 --> 01:05:41.200 interesting? Sex, slavery, and you know, hierarchy of any sort and the 01:05:41.200 --> 01:05:45.040 races. Why are those the hot button issues of this day? 01:05:45.040 --> 01:05:48.080 Think about that as as you as you go away from this 01:05:48.080 --> 01:05:54.720 episode. Why is it that Galatians three twenty-eight defines the news cycle. 01:05:54.720 --> 01:05:58.960 Seriously, why does Galatians 3 28 define the news cycle? 01:05:58.960 --> 01:06:01.280 Why does it define higher education? 01:06:01.280 --> 01:06:02.480 How did that happen? 01:06:02.480 --> 01:06:04.960 Because they weren't reading but the Bible and saying oh we're going 01:06:04.960 --> 01:06:05.920 to do the opposite. 01:06:05.920 --> 01:06:08.720 They're getting their marching orders from hell. 01:06:08.720 --> 01:06:13.600 And God and Satan is really concerned about people correctly understanding this. 01:06:13.600 --> 01:06:15.680 Because again, this is soteriological. 01:06:15.680 --> 01:06:22.160 This is God using the created order and then sanctifying it through 01:06:22.160 --> 01:06:24.240 the blood of his son. 01:06:24.240 --> 01:06:26.000 We can't undo any of that. 01:06:26.000 --> 01:06:29.760 We can't undo, we can't ignore the salvation, and we can't ignore 01:06:29.760 --> 01:06:30.720 the creation. 01:06:30.720 --> 01:06:32.560 You can't just pick one either. 01:06:32.560 --> 01:06:34.480 And that's what we talk about Gnosticism. 01:06:34.720 --> 01:06:37.840 You can't say, oh, this physical stuff, whatever, that's not important. 01:06:37.840 --> 01:06:39.280 It's all about Jesus. 01:06:39.280 --> 01:06:40.400 It's all about the spirit. 01:06:40.400 --> 01:06:41.760 It's all about salvation. 01:06:41.760 --> 01:06:43.280 That's not true. 01:06:43.280 --> 01:06:43.600 I 01:06:44.480 --> 01:06:47.120 we're going to talk in a minute about duty as it relates 01:06:47.120 --> 01:06:50.480 to the fourth commandment, but if you think that you have no 01:06:50.480 --> 01:06:53.920 duties other than to worship God, what does that do to the 01:06:53.920 --> 01:06:55.280 Christian life? 01:06:55.280 --> 01:06:57.600 Say, for example, you own a dog. 01:06:57.600 --> 01:07:00.560 Well, we'll leave aside, you know, your your wife or your children. 01:07:00.560 --> 01:07:02.160 Say you own a dog. 01:07:02.160 --> 01:07:04.800 If you own a dog, that's your property. 01:07:04.800 --> 01:07:07.840 The dog is a living creature created by God. 01:07:07.840 --> 01:07:08.800 You own it. 01:07:08.800 --> 01:07:11.280 It is your duty to care for it, to feed it, to 01:07:11.280 --> 01:07:14.560 shelter it, to preserve its health and its safety. 01:07:14.560 --> 01:07:17.680 What if you decide it's all about Jesus? 01:07:17.680 --> 01:07:19.280 I'm not going to feed my dog anymore. 01:07:19.280 --> 01:07:21.280 That's not a gospel issue. 01:07:22.480 --> 01:07:27.120 There are people who actually will try to approach these subjects by 01:07:27.200 --> 01:07:30.400 with that reasoning, by saying, Well, this isn't the gospel, this isn't 01:07:30.320 --> 01:07:34.160 a gospel issue, this race stuff, this creation stuff, this isn't about 01:07:34.160 --> 01:07:35.680 Jesus or the cross. 01:07:35.680 --> 01:07:37.920 Well, neither is feeding your dog. 01:07:37.920 --> 01:07:40.800 Does that mean you have the moral right to starve your dog 01:07:40.800 --> 01:07:41.440 to death? 01:07:41.440 --> 01:07:44.960 No. If I come to you and say you're starving your got 01:07:44.960 --> 01:07:47.920 your dog to death, this is your property, you care for, you 01:07:47.920 --> 01:07:50.160 love it, you cannot starve it to death. 01:07:50.160 --> 01:07:52.640 If your If your response is that's not a gospel issue, why 01:07:52.640 --> 01:07:54.480 aren't you talking about Jesus? 01:07:54.800 --> 01:07:58.880 You have you've abandoned the faith, even while you think you're pointing 01:07:58.880 --> 01:07:59.920 to the cross. 01:07:59.920 --> 01:08:03.840 And so when we talk about not letting these subjects be being 01:08:03.840 --> 01:08:07.040 reduced to only one thing, that's why. 01:08:07.040 --> 01:08:09.520 If you just want to say, well, it's all about Jesus and 01:08:09.520 --> 01:08:13.760 you won't talk about created order, you're not even talking about Jesus 01:08:13.760 --> 01:08:18.560 anymore because Jesus is the fountainhead of created order. 01:08:18.560 --> 01:08:19.600 Jesus is God. 01:08:19.600 --> 01:08:22.880 All of this flows from Him and all of it is sanctified 01:08:22.880 --> 01:08:23.600 through Him. 01:08:23.600 --> 01:08:27.120 We don't get to throw away the things that God sanctified with 01:08:27.280 --> 01:08:31.200 his blood and created and redeemed for his own good purposes. 01:08:31.200 --> 01:08:33.840 We don't get to ignore that to say that we're pointing to 01:08:33.840 --> 01:08:35.920 the cross because that's the only thing that matters. 01:08:35.920 --> 01:08:37.120 All of it matters. 01:08:37.120 --> 01:08:39.200 All of it matters because of the cross. 01:08:39.200 --> 01:08:40.880 All of it matters because of God. 01:08:40.880 --> 01:08:44.480 He is our creator first and then our redeemer. 01:08:44.480 --> 01:08:49.440 The redemption was only necessary because we were created and we fell. 01:08:49.440 --> 01:08:53.120 Had we not fallen, redemption would not have been necessary and God 01:08:53.120 --> 01:08:55.200 would still have been our creator. 01:08:55.200 --> 01:08:59.040 And that's when when Corey was referring to Job, especially Job thirty-eight 01:08:59.040 --> 01:09:03.120 and following, God points to himself as creator. 01:09:03.120 --> 01:09:06.800 When he speaks to Job, he doesn't talk about, well, I'm gonna 01:09:06.800 --> 01:09:07.520 save you later. 01:09:07.520 --> 01:09:09.280 I'm gonna I'm gonna pay for your sins. 01:09:09.280 --> 01:09:10.400 So don't worry about that. 01:09:10.400 --> 01:09:12.560 Why are why are you challenging me? 01:09:12.560 --> 01:09:17.920 When Job challenges God, God points to creation to testify who to 01:09:17.920 --> 01:09:18.800 his glory. 01:09:18.800 --> 01:09:23.280 We as Christians are obligated to look to creation and not denounce 01:09:23.280 --> 01:09:25.360 it and not say it doesn't matter. 01:09:25.360 --> 01:09:28.720 It doesn't save, but it's from the same creator from whom our 01:09:28.720 --> 01:09:30.000 our redemption comes. 01:09:30.000 --> 01:09:33.040 And if you deny your creator, you have denied your redeemer. 01:09:33.040 --> 01:09:34.800 There's no way to get around that. 01:09:34.800 --> 01:09:39.120 And that's why we these seemingly peripheral issues are so important. 01:09:39.120 --> 01:09:42.960 Satan knows they matter, and that's why he's going after 'em today. 01:09:42.960 --> 01:09:43.120 And 01:09:43.120 --> 01:09:46.880 so when you read this section, and really you should read the 01:09:46.880 --> 01:09:50.960 entire book, when you read it, read it in context, and then 01:09:50.960 --> 01:09:55.920 compare the parallel passages, so also read Colossians, specifically in this case 01:09:56.080 --> 01:10:00.000 Colossians three, if if you decide not to read the entire book, 01:10:00.000 --> 01:10:04.880 here there is not Greek and Jew, circumcised and uncircumcised, barbarian Scythian, 01:10:04.880 --> 01:10:08.720 slave free, but Christ is all and in all and of course 01:10:08.720 --> 01:10:12.880 you can see the listing here is giving a different emphasis, but 01:10:12.880 --> 01:10:14.640 making a similar point. 01:10:14.640 --> 01:10:17.840 These are a listing of attributes that are real, that are important, 01:10:17.840 --> 01:10:22.400 that mean something, that correspond to reality, but in Christ 01:10:23.840 --> 01:10:28.480 they aren't as important because they don't have the soteriological meaning or 01:10:28.480 --> 01:10:32.640 impact. They are still of absolute importance when it comes to how 01:10:32.640 --> 01:10:36.240 you conduct yourself in this life, because they are part of how 01:10:36.240 --> 01:10:38.560 you were made by your creator. 01:10:39.440 --> 01:10:42.400 But another thing that is worth pondering 01:10:43.360 --> 01:10:48.320 is if you look to the beginning of some of the current, 01:10:48.320 --> 01:10:51.520 let's call them political problems that we have in the world, if 01:10:51.520 --> 01:10:55.360 you trace them back, many of them you will have to trace 01:10:55.600 --> 01:11:01.040 not necessarily as the foundation, but back through the French Revolution. 01:11:01.040 --> 01:11:05.680 And what was the slogan of the French Revolution? 01:11:05.680 --> 01:11:12.800 Liberte Egalite Fraternite Liberty Equality Fraternity. 01:11:12.800 --> 01:11:20.080 It is a literal rejection of these three categories from Galatians. 01:11:20.080 --> 01:11:25.600 There is neither Jew nor Greek, well we reject that, with fraternite. 01:11:25.600 --> 01:11:30.960 There is neither slave nor free, well we reject that with libert. 01:11:30.960 --> 01:11:36.800 There is no male and female, well we reject that with egalite. 01:11:36.800 --> 01:11:40.160 You should think long and hard and be very careful 01:11:41.360 --> 01:11:44.640 which side you are going to choose, if you are going to 01:11:44.640 --> 01:11:50.800 choose the side of violent revolutionaries who quite nearly succeeded in burning 01:11:50.800 --> 01:11:52.320 Europe to the ground. 01:11:52.320 --> 01:11:56.000 Thankfully, this one happened to be stamped out more or less, but 01:11:56.000 --> 01:11:57.920 they kept trying. 01:11:57.920 --> 01:12:05.120 If you want to join them, reject what Galatians 3:28 tells you. 01:12:05.120 --> 01:12:09.920 If instead you want to believe what God tells you and stay 01:12:09.920 --> 01:12:14.560 a Christian and have your children be Christians and your grandchildren be 01:12:14.560 --> 01:12:18.320 Christian, then believe what God has written here. 01:12:18.320 --> 01:12:22.320 Believe the reality of the categories he has chosen, he chose them 01:12:22.320 --> 01:12:25.840 because they are real things that correspond to the way he made 01:12:25.840 --> 01:12:28.240 the world. 01:12:28.240 --> 01:12:31.120 And so the option should be very clear. 01:12:31.120 --> 01:12:34.560 You can choose the spirit of the age, which I just gave 01:12:34.560 --> 01:12:40.080 you in French and English, or you can choose to follow the 01:12:40.080 --> 01:12:44.080 actual spirit, to follow God, to follow Christ. 01:12:44.080 --> 01:12:45.760 And that is the starkness of it. 01:12:46.080 --> 01:12:48.560 That is the reality of the situation. 01:12:48.560 --> 01:12:51.280 That is the gravity of the choice. 01:12:51.280 --> 01:12:53.040 It's God or Satan. 01:12:53.040 --> 01:12:54.800 Those are the two sides. 01:12:54.800 --> 01:12:57.120 And you must choose wisely. 01:12:57.120 --> 01:12:57.360 I 01:12:57.360 --> 01:12:59.680 think that there are probably a lot of people who've listened to 01:12:59.680 --> 01:13:02.320 this and may still think, well, so what? 01:13:02.320 --> 01:13:04.080 What's the application? 01:13:04.080 --> 01:13:06.960 Well, we're gonna end with 1 Timothy 5. 01:13:06.960 --> 01:13:09.840 Uh it's one that we've referred to before, and in the interest 01:13:09.840 --> 01:13:11.520 of not cherry-picking, since we just connect. 01:13:12.000 --> 01:13:14.640 I'm going to read the whole paragraph just to give you the 01:13:14.640 --> 01:13:17.840 context and then we're going to focus on the end of it. 01:13:17.840 --> 01:13:22.080 Honor widows who are truly widows, but if a widow has children 01:13:22.080 --> 01:13:25.680 or grandchildren, let them first learn to show godliness to their own 01:13:26.000 --> 01:13:29.520 household and to make some return to their parents, for this is 01:13:29.520 --> 01:13:31.120 pleasing in the sight of God. 01:13:31.120 --> 01:13:34.720 She who is truly a widow, left all alone, has set her 01:13:34.720 --> 01:13:39.120 hope on God and continues in supplications and prayers night and day. 01:13:39.120 --> 01:13:42.800 But she who is self indulgent is dead even while she lives. 01:13:42.800 --> 01:13:46.960 Command these things as well, so that they may be without reproach. 01:13:46.960 --> 01:13:51.680 But if any one does not provide for his relatives, and especially 01:13:51.680 --> 01:13:55.920 for the members of his household, he has denied the faith and 01:13:55.920 --> 01:13:58.320 is worse than an unbeliever. 01:13:58.320 --> 01:14:01.600 This is a passage that I point to frequently because it flies 01:14:01.600 --> 01:14:06.400 so vehemently at odds with the notions that oh well we're all 01:14:06.400 --> 01:14:11.040 brothers, we're all neighbors, we're all just this collapsed humanity, and we 01:14:11.040 --> 01:14:15.680 all have equal rights and obligations to each other. 01:14:15.680 --> 01:14:18.560 I provided the whole context to show that most of it was 01:14:18.560 --> 01:14:19.920 referring to widows. 01:14:19.920 --> 01:14:22.480 I didn't want to make it seem like this was only talk 01:14:22.560 --> 01:14:23.920 just talking in general. 01:14:23.920 --> 01:14:27.040 I think it's worth noting that the second sentence there, but if 01:14:27.040 --> 01:14:30.480 a widow has children or grandchildren, let them first learn to show 01:14:30.480 --> 01:14:34.240 godliness. So that again points back to what we're saying about the 01:14:34.240 --> 01:14:35.280 fourth commandment. 01:14:35.280 --> 01:14:38.400 Honor your father and mother, includes your grandmother. 01:14:38.400 --> 01:14:42.240 Because if grandchildren have this obligation, it's under the fourth commandment. 01:14:42.240 --> 01:14:43.040 There's no difference. 01:14:43.040 --> 01:14:45.440 It's basically living relatives. 01:14:45.440 --> 01:14:50.080 Now in the case of widowhood, they're specifically focusing on lineal descent 01:14:50.320 --> 01:14:54.160 in when that is not available due to death or whatever other 01:14:54.160 --> 01:14:57.440 reason, then the members of the church are to care for those 01:14:57.440 --> 01:15:01.920 widows. But the general application of that last two sentence or that 01:15:01.920 --> 01:15:04.960 last sentence is is universal. 01:15:04.960 --> 01:15:09.600 If anyone does not provide for his relatives, and especially for members 01:15:09.600 --> 01:15:13.920 of his household, he has denied the faith and is worse than 01:15:13.920 --> 01:15:15.760 an unbeliever. 01:15:15.760 --> 01:15:19.200 Now that's what we're talking about frequently. 01:15:19.200 --> 01:15:23.600 When you do these things that deny God's command you are denying 01:15:23.600 --> 01:15:24.720 the faith. 01:15:24.720 --> 01:15:30.080 You can't say in response to Galatians 328, if even if you 01:15:30.080 --> 01:15:34.480 hear us talking about neither Jew nor Greek being soteriological If you 01:15:34.480 --> 01:15:36.960 say, I don't care, it's all about Jesus. 01:15:36.960 --> 01:15:38.400 You're denying the faith. 01:15:38.400 --> 01:15:39.600 Because wait, what are you doing? 01:15:39.600 --> 01:15:40.960 You're denying the rest of that sense. 01:15:40.960 --> 01:15:43.200 You're denying that your relatives exist. 01:15:43.200 --> 01:15:46.720 You're denying that your relatives are related to you. 01:15:46.720 --> 01:15:48.080 You're saying I'm related to everyone. 01:15:48.400 --> 01:15:50.000 I'm I'm everyone's brother. 01:15:50.000 --> 01:15:52.560 If you're everyone's brother, you're no one's brother. 01:15:52.560 --> 01:15:54.560 That is incoherent. 01:15:54.560 --> 01:15:59.120 And isn't it often interesting how often we're using that word incoherent. 01:15:59.440 --> 01:16:05.200 the readings of these passages as interpreted through the lens of of 01:16:05.200 --> 01:16:11.840 this age in the service of non-Christian goals ultimately render the text 01:16:11.840 --> 01:16:13.600 itself incoherent. 01:16:13.600 --> 01:16:17.600 If God says provide for your relatives and you say relatives, what's 01:16:17.600 --> 01:16:20.400 that? my brothers are ten thousand miles away. 01:16:20.400 --> 01:16:21.920 My brothers are all over the planet. 01:16:21.920 --> 01:16:22.880 I don't have relatives. 01:16:22.880 --> 01:16:24.000 They're all my relatives. 01:16:24.000 --> 01:16:27.200 There are people who actually they won't say it quite in those 01:16:27.200 --> 01:16:31.360 terms, but I saw someone recently use the text where Jesus said 01:16:31.680 --> 01:16:34.480 Well who are my brothers and who is my mother and who 01:16:34.480 --> 01:16:35.040 are my brothers? 01:16:35.040 --> 01:16:38.880 These are who are before you are my mother and brothers. 01:16:38.880 --> 01:16:42.800 They try to use that as a denial of the flesh. 01:16:42.800 --> 01:16:46.880 They try to set those passages in opposition to passages like this, 01:16:46.880 --> 01:16:49.440 where God says you're damned if you don't cover if you don't 01:16:49.360 --> 01:16:52.800 care for your relatives, if you don't care for your flesh. 01:16:52.800 --> 01:16:55.760 And the case that we made in the first episode in particular 01:16:55.840 --> 01:17:01.520 of this mini-series is that your relatives, writ large, is your race. 01:17:01.520 --> 01:17:06.400 The further you go out, the more the the less immediately related 01:17:06.400 --> 01:17:09.680 they are, but that's just the same as an extended family. 01:17:09.680 --> 01:17:12.560 You wouldn't go to a family reunion where a hundred and fifty 01:17:12.560 --> 01:17:15.840 people show up and say, Well, you know, my first cousins, yeah, 01:17:15.840 --> 01:17:17.040 you guys you guys are fine. 01:17:17.200 --> 01:17:20.000 The second cousins, those guys, I don't even know who they are. 01:17:20.000 --> 01:17:21.360 They're nothing to me. 01:17:21.360 --> 01:17:24.640 They're more distantly related, but the fact that you all showed up 01:17:24.640 --> 01:17:26.880 in the same place means that you're all family. 01:17:26.880 --> 01:17:30.720 You have a common lineage, you have a common ancestry, you have 01:17:30.720 --> 01:17:32.880 something in common that God gave you. 01:17:32.880 --> 01:17:37.280 It's not a social structure, it's not some convention that man came 01:17:37.280 --> 01:17:38.000 up with. 01:17:38.000 --> 01:17:40.720 These are all God's commands and God's orders. 01:17:40.720 --> 01:17:43.840 The genealogies, God cares about those. 01:17:43.840 --> 01:17:48.960 That's not man having a fetish for trying to borrow someone else's 01:17:48.960 --> 01:17:53.680 story. That's saying, yes, when God says where you came from matters, 01:17:53.680 --> 01:17:57.040 who your father is matters, I as a Christian must believe that. 01:17:57.600 --> 01:18:02.640 And that continues beyond even the fathers whose names I might remember. 01:18:02.640 --> 01:18:04.960 When you look at a passage that says if you don't provide 01:18:04.960 --> 01:18:06.480 for your relatives, you're damned. 01:18:06.480 --> 01:18:08.160 And that's literally what it says. 01:18:08.160 --> 01:18:09.680 He has denied the faith. 01:18:09.680 --> 01:18:12.000 That is apostasy. 01:18:12.240 --> 01:18:16.960 Corey and I will increasingly are using the word apostasy to describe 01:18:16.960 --> 01:18:20.880 the denial of these things, particularly in our own church, for this 01:18:20.880 --> 01:18:21.680 very reason. 01:18:21.680 --> 01:18:24.400 We're not name-calling, we're not throwing firebombs. 01:18:24.720 --> 01:18:29.840 We're illustrating what this passage in first Timothy five makes abundantly clear. 01:18:29.840 --> 01:18:32.880 You say that you're pointing to Christ and that you have faith, 01:18:32.880 --> 01:18:35.760 and then you let your grandmother go to a home where she's 01:18:35.760 --> 01:18:36.400 mistreated 01:18:37.840 --> 01:18:39.120 You don't have faith. 01:18:39.120 --> 01:18:43.120 You've denied the faith and are worse than an unbeliever. 01:18:43.120 --> 01:18:46.480 If an unbeliever is going to go to hell, what is worse 01:18:46.480 --> 01:18:48.160 than an unbeliever going to receive? 01:18:48.160 --> 01:18:50.080 Because that's what you're going to receive. 01:18:50.080 --> 01:18:52.800 If you don't care for your relatives. 01:18:52.800 --> 01:18:57.040 And if you despise those who are related to you, even if 01:18:57.040 --> 01:18:59.440 the distant relation is to the point that we would call it 01:18:59.440 --> 01:19:04.400 a race versus a family or an ethnicity or some intermediate step, 01:19:04.400 --> 01:19:08.080 if you think that you have license to despise the manner in 01:19:08.080 --> 01:19:12.880 which God created you and to despise your extended relatives, do you 01:19:12.880 --> 01:19:15.440 think that you will be saved on the last day? 01:19:15.440 --> 01:19:17.760 Do you think that you have an excuse in the light of 01:19:17.760 --> 01:19:20.880 First Timothy five to say, yeah, I hate those relatives. 01:19:20.880 --> 01:19:21.920 I I'm ashamed of them. 01:19:21.920 --> 01:19:22.880 They're disgusting. 01:19:22.880 --> 01:19:24.320 I want nothing to do with them. 01:19:24.320 --> 01:19:25.680 I'm not going to help them. 01:19:25.680 --> 01:19:26.560 Yeah, they're my neighbor. 01:19:26.560 --> 01:19:29.760 Yeah, they're my brother, but I d I despise them. 01:19:29.760 --> 01:19:32.560 I would rather have a brother ten thousand miles away. 01:19:32.560 --> 01:19:34.320 I like him better than these people. 01:19:34.320 --> 01:19:36.400 What is God gonna say to that? 01:19:36.400 --> 01:19:38.640 This passage makes clear what he's gonna say. 01:19:38.640 --> 01:19:40.960 The only question that we as Christians have is are we going 01:19:40.960 --> 01:19:43.840 to believe it and are we going to obey God? 01:19:43.840 --> 01:19:45.360 Not to save ourselves. 01:19:45.360 --> 01:19:47.840 Like that's the problem that Protestants have all the time. 01:19:47.840 --> 01:19:50.560 You say obey God, and they're like, well, that's work salvation. 01:19:50.560 --> 01:19:51.680 You're trying to save yourself. 01:19:51.680 --> 01:19:53.360 You think you can do something to earn your salvation. 01:19:53.360 --> 01:19:57.360 No. Our salvation was earned by Christ's blood on the cross. 01:19:57.360 --> 01:20:00.880 There's nothing I can do that could possibly save me in God's 01:20:00.880 --> 01:20:04.480 eyes. There are, however, things I can do to continue to nail 01:20:04.480 --> 01:20:08.400 Christ to the cross every day with new sins that I come 01:20:08.400 --> 01:20:13.600 up with, either through deliberate malice or through apathy, or through ignorance, 01:20:13.600 --> 01:20:16.240 I continue to nail Christ to the cross with the sins that 01:20:16.240 --> 01:20:19.360 I commit in my own life, and so do you. 01:20:19.360 --> 01:20:22.400 That is not a cause for despair, is a cause to continue 01:20:22.400 --> 01:20:26.560 to turn to the cross as a source of our salvation. 01:20:26.560 --> 01:20:30.400 And then when we step back from the cross and go on 01:20:30.400 --> 01:20:35.360 with our lives, by leaving, by keeping the cross in view in 01:20:35.360 --> 01:20:39.440 our lives, it doesn't mean talking all about Jesus 24-7. 01:20:39.440 --> 01:20:42.320 It means obeying God 24-7. 01:20:42.320 --> 01:20:46.000 As we've said before, God gives you 168 hours in the week, 01:20:46.000 --> 01:20:48.960 and He calls you to church once a week. 01:20:48.960 --> 01:20:52.560 He calls you to study faithfully, but not continuously. 01:20:52.560 --> 01:20:56.000 He doesn't say every waking moment and even while you sleep, I 01:20:56.000 --> 01:20:59.280 want you only ever thinking about me and not doing anything else. 01:20:59.280 --> 01:21:02.480 That is what the ascetics and the monks do, and it's a 01:21:02.480 --> 01:21:04.720 despising of what God desires. 01:21:04.720 --> 01:21:08.240 God desires that our good works and our care for our neighbor 01:21:08.480 --> 01:21:12.000 and for our brother especially, those are the categories that are most 01:21:12.000 --> 01:21:12.960 important to God. 01:21:12.960 --> 01:21:17.600 Your brother first, and then your neighbor, and then everyone else. 01:21:17.600 --> 01:21:22.000 That is the three part hierarchy into which God has divided humanity. 01:21:22.000 --> 01:21:25.520 And your brother includes those who are distantly related to you. 01:21:25.520 --> 01:21:29.600 Corey is my brother because we come from the same extended family. 01:21:29.600 --> 01:21:32.640 He's not my neighbor because we don't live in the same place. 01:21:32.640 --> 01:21:32.960 But 01:21:33.920 --> 01:21:37.600 my obligations are to him not only as a brother in Christ, 01:21:37.920 --> 01:21:40.640 but as a brother according to the flesh. 01:21:40.640 --> 01:21:44.640 It is a less immediate concern than I have or obligation than 01:21:44.640 --> 01:21:47.840 I have for my own immediate family, and that is fine. 01:21:47.840 --> 01:21:51.600 There is triage that God has baked into the system when you 01:21:51.600 --> 01:21:52.560 obey him. 01:21:52.560 --> 01:21:56.720 But to say, nope, yeah, those those people in Ohio that are, 01:21:56.720 --> 01:22:00.000 you know, they're living in a hazmat, you know, super fun site 01:22:00.000 --> 01:22:02.160 now, they don't have any clean water, 01:22:02.160 --> 01:22:02.320 eh 01:22:02.400 --> 01:22:03.280 Yeah. 01:22:04.080 --> 01:22:04.240 You 01:22:04.240 --> 01:22:07.360 know, I I'd rather worry about what's going on in Turkey. 01:22:07.360 --> 01:22:09.840 I'd rather pray for the Turks than I would pray for the 01:22:09.840 --> 01:22:10.880 people in Ohio. 01:22:10.880 --> 01:22:14.640 I would rather send my money overseas to people who do not 01:22:14.640 --> 01:22:18.960 worship the same god because that sounds that's more worldly. 01:22:18.960 --> 01:22:21.280 That's a better way for me to be a Christian, to n 01:22:21.360 --> 01:22:24.640 to love my brother and my neighbor according to the flesh and 01:22:24.640 --> 01:22:27.120 according to proximity who's right next door. 01:22:27.120 --> 01:22:30.000 If someone next door is suffering, or if your brother who is 01:22:30.000 --> 01:22:34.640 more distant is suffering, he is your first duty according to God. 01:22:34.640 --> 01:22:38.800 And some of that is racial because that's how God made you. 01:22:38.800 --> 01:22:40.320 That's not an evil thing. 01:22:40.320 --> 01:22:41.600 It's a good thing. 01:22:41.440 --> 01:22:44.720 to deny it is when the evil enters the picture and not 01:22:44.720 --> 01:22:45.520 before. 01:22:45.840 --> 01:22:46.080 And 01:22:46.080 --> 01:22:50.640 so when we're speaking of good works, it's a useful comment from 01:22:50.640 --> 01:22:57.360 Luther. God does not need my good works, but my neighbor does. 01:22:57.360 --> 01:22:59.680 And that's really the heart 01:23:00.960 --> 01:23:03.760 of the matter when it comes to good works. 01:23:03.760 --> 01:23:08.080 And so the monks and others who hide themselves away and believe 01:23:08.080 --> 01:23:11.760 that they are worshiping God, that they are doing God's will. 01:23:11.760 --> 01:23:13.440 They simply aren't. 01:23:13.440 --> 01:23:16.080 Because God does not need your good works. 01:23:16.080 --> 01:23:17.680 Your neighbor does. 01:23:17.680 --> 01:23:20.400 So you serve God by serving your neighbor. 01:23:20.400 --> 01:23:25.200 And yes, that includes your neighbor in Ohio, who now needs clean 01:23:25.200 --> 01:23:30.240 water and many other things, and your neighbor elsewhere in your own 01:23:30.240 --> 01:23:36.240 nation. You are not serving God when you are virtue signaling by 01:23:36.240 --> 01:23:36.560 sending 01:23:37.680 --> 01:23:43.280 your money and your goods overseas to people you don't even know, 01:23:43.280 --> 01:23:45.920 to people with whom you have no connection. 01:23:46.240 --> 01:23:49.200 And that is especially true when you are doing it to the 01:23:49.200 --> 01:23:52.720 neglect and harm of your actual neighbours. 01:23:52.720 --> 01:23:57.840 And that's the point of the Good Samaritan Who is my neighbor? 01:23:57.840 --> 01:24:01.360 Your neighbor is the person God has put next to you. 01:24:01.360 --> 01:24:04.400 Your neighbor is that person whose house you can see from where 01:24:04.400 --> 01:24:07.600 you're sitting if you happen to be near a window. 01:24:07.600 --> 01:24:11.680 Because neighbor literally means the person near actually means the farmer nearby, 01:24:11.680 --> 01:24:14.640 but it means the person nearby. 01:24:14.640 --> 01:24:17.680 That is your neighbor. 01:24:17.680 --> 01:24:22.880 And to rely not just on Luther will give you from Mark 01:24:22.880 --> 01:24:26.560 seven. You leave the commandment of God and hold to the tradition 01:24:26.560 --> 01:24:29.760 of men, and he said to them, You have a fine way 01:24:29.760 --> 01:24:33.840 of rejecting the commandment of God in order to establish your tradition. 01:24:33.840 --> 01:24:39.040 For Moses said, Honor your father and your mother, and whoever reviles 01:24:39.040 --> 01:24:41.200 father or mother must surely die. 01:24:41.200 --> 01:24:44.800 But you say, if a man tells his father or his mother, 01:24:44.800 --> 01:24:48.080 whatever you would have gained from me is Korban, that is given 01:24:48.080 --> 01:24:51.040 to God, then you no longer permit him to do anything for 01:24:51.040 --> 01:24:54.640 his father or mother or mother, thus making void the word of 01:24:54.640 --> 01:24:58.800 God by your tradition that you have handed down, and many such 01:24:58.800 --> 01:25:01.440 things you do. 01:25:01.440 --> 01:25:05.520 And so if you believe that you are serving God by virtue 01:25:05.840 --> 01:25:10.640 signaling, by withdrawing from the world, by doing these things for which 01:25:10.640 --> 01:25:15.360 the world will praise you, and not in fact serving your neighbor, 01:25:15.360 --> 01:25:19.120 not in fact serving your relatives, not in fact serving your family, 01:25:19.120 --> 01:25:23.760 those whom God has put into your life by proximity and blood, 01:25:23.760 --> 01:25:26.480 then you are not in fact serving God. 01:25:26.480 --> 01:25:31.120 You are violating these words of Christ from Mark seven. 01:25:31.120 --> 01:25:35.280 And that is the state in which we currently find much of 01:25:35.280 --> 01:25:36.240 the world. 01:25:36.240 --> 01:25:41.040 People think that they are doing something good because they sent some 01:25:41.040 --> 01:25:44.880 hundreds of numbers of cases of water to Africa because of course 01:25:44.960 --> 01:25:48.480 your dollar goes f your dollar goes further if you're dealing with 01:25:48.480 --> 01:25:54.800 Africa or somewhere that is poor, particularly somewhere that is very poor. 01:25:54.800 --> 01:25:57.280 But you aren't, you aren't serving God. 01:25:57.280 --> 01:26:00.320 You're signaling to the world, look at me, aren't I a good 01:26:00.320 --> 01:26:03.360 person? Because it would actually be hard work if you had to 01:26:03.360 --> 01:26:05.520 go and help your neighbor next door. 01:26:05.520 --> 01:26:07.280 And you don't want to do that. 01:26:07.280 --> 01:26:11.040 Much easier to do something for which the world will praise you, 01:26:11.040 --> 01:26:13.920 and Scripture's very clear about that as well. 01:26:13.920 --> 01:26:17.680 Is it really charity, if you're on the street corner, shouting your 01:26:17.680 --> 01:26:20.560 prayer to God, shouting how good you are? 01:26:20.560 --> 01:26:21.760 It isn't. 01:26:21.760 --> 01:26:24.640 Scripture is very clear. 01:26:24.640 --> 01:26:27.840 And so if you want to do good works and you should, 01:26:27.840 --> 01:26:32.960 because good works follow naturally from true faith, from living faith, then 01:26:32.960 --> 01:26:35.520 you do those by serving those 01:26:36.560 --> 01:26:40.240 whom God has given to you, by serving your actual neighbors, by 01:26:40.240 --> 01:26:44.320 serving your family, by serving the members of your own household. 01:26:44.560 --> 01:26:46.240 That is what Scripture says. 01:26:46.240 --> 01:26:48.320 That is what Christians must do. 01:26:48.240 --> 01:26:48.320 So 01:26:48.400 --> 01:26:53.120 I'd like to leave everyone today with a renewed request for you 01:26:53.120 --> 01:26:57.920 to evaluate your own morality in terms of scripture. 01:26:57.920 --> 01:26:59.680 You don't have to listen to what we say. 01:26:59.680 --> 01:27:05.760 Just look to scripture for where you get your moral virtues. 01:27:05.760 --> 01:27:09.760 If as you're going through your daily life, if as you're deciding 01:27:09.760 --> 01:27:14.160 where to spend your charitable dollars or your energy or your time 01:27:14.160 --> 01:27:20.080 protesting or talking or whatever you do, if in those moments the 01:27:20.080 --> 01:27:25.520 things that you're doing earn the adulation of the world, rather than 01:27:25.520 --> 01:27:28.000 its condemnation. 01:27:28.000 --> 01:27:33.040 In these dark days, any honest Christian has to be asking himself, 01:27:33.040 --> 01:27:36.080 if the world isn't hating me for what I'm saying and doing 01:27:36.080 --> 01:27:39.680 right in this minute, am I actually sermon God? 01:27:39.920 --> 01:27:44.240 Because many of these questions are portrayed by the world as moral 01:27:44.640 --> 01:27:51.440 questions. The BLM inversion of Galatians three twenty-eight is portrayed as a 01:27:51.440 --> 01:27:52.320 moral question. 01:27:52.320 --> 01:27:54.560 The same was true in the French Revolution. 01:27:54.560 --> 01:27:58.560 They were casting down monarchy and replacing it with something better. 01:27:58.560 --> 01:28:02.640 They were pursuing a moral good in their religion. 01:28:02.640 --> 01:28:09.360 If your religion is informed with a morality that comes from a 01:28:09.360 --> 01:28:13.600 source that is consistent with this world, if you can do things 01:28:13.600 --> 01:28:16.480 where the girl world is gonna say, that's beautiful, I love that, 01:28:16.480 --> 01:28:20.400 you're one of us, does that fill you with pride to know 01:28:20.400 --> 01:28:24.640 that you're welcomed arm in arm, even with those who hate Christ? 01:28:24.640 --> 01:28:27.920 Or does it fill you with dread that you have a morality 01:28:27.920 --> 01:28:31.360 that has somehow emerged in the hearts of those who are damned? 01:28:31.360 --> 01:28:35.040 How did they get on the same page as you morally? 01:28:35.040 --> 01:28:40.080 And when Corey and I talk about these things, we face great 01:28:40.080 --> 01:28:43.280 personal consequences for saying these things. 01:28:43.280 --> 01:28:46.000 And if you say these things in public, you will too. 01:28:47.120 --> 01:28:50.480 If we're lying, then maybe that's what God wants. 01:28:50.480 --> 01:28:54.480 Maybe he wants to destroy those who would say things that are 01:28:54.480 --> 01:28:55.760 contrary to his word. 01:28:55.760 --> 01:28:56.640 That is the case. 01:28:56.640 --> 01:28:59.600 God was does want to see those men destroyed, and on the 01:28:59.600 --> 01:29:02.800 last day they will all be cast into fire. 01:29:02.800 --> 01:29:08.080 If we're making an argument from scripture and the world hates us, 01:29:08.080 --> 01:29:09.760 what do you do with that? 01:29:09.760 --> 01:29:13.280 Do you side with the world reflexively because they said the right 01:29:13.280 --> 01:29:14.800 mean words to us? 01:29:14.800 --> 01:29:17.520 Or do you take another look at the arguments that are being 01:29:17.520 --> 01:29:21.440 made and you look at scripture and say, well, I believe this 01:29:21.440 --> 01:29:25.040 with a clean heart, I I believe that racism was a sin, 01:29:25.040 --> 01:29:27.200 that there was one race, the human race. 01:29:27.200 --> 01:29:30.560 After this was explained to me, I'm not sure what to do. 01:29:30.560 --> 01:29:34.080 We'll say again, look to your left and look to your right. 01:29:34.080 --> 01:29:36.720 Who are your allies morally? 01:29:36.720 --> 01:29:40.000 Who are those who hold the same morality as you? 01:29:40.000 --> 01:29:45.280 Because on one side are the Satanists, the Jews, the atheists, the 01:29:45.280 --> 01:29:51.200 abortionists, they're all together in lockstep on all of these questions, they 01:29:51.360 --> 01:29:54.640 know what they think about Galatians 3.28, and they all believe exactly 01:29:54.640 --> 01:29:55.840 the same thing. 01:29:55.840 --> 01:29:59.200 If you believe the same thing as those groups, or really that 01:29:59.200 --> 01:30:03.280 single group, because they're speaking with a unified voice, if you If 01:30:03.280 --> 01:30:07.600 you speak with the same voice as them, do you worship the 01:30:07.600 --> 01:30:10.960 one true God? 01:30:11.200 --> 01:30:13.360 You need to think long and hard about that. 01:30:13.360 --> 01:30:16.800 How did your morality come to be in accord with the world? 01:30:16.800 --> 01:30:19.360 I want to leave you with a passage from John 16 that 01:30:19.360 --> 01:30:24.240 came up recently that's from one of the many places where Jesus 01:30:24.240 --> 01:30:26.640 prophesies about the end of the world. 01:30:26.640 --> 01:30:29.600 He talks about the last days and what's going to come to 01:30:29.600 --> 01:30:31.040 his church. 01:30:31.280 --> 01:30:36.320 It's worth spending time thinking about those things for the very reason 01:30:36.320 --> 01:30:37.920 that he's gonna give in this passage. 01:30:37.920 --> 01:30:40.160 And I'll just after I've read it, we'll I think we'll just 01:30:40.160 --> 01:30:42.560 end the episode on Jesus' words. 01:30:42.560 --> 01:30:45.120 Think long and hard about what he says. 01:30:45.120 --> 01:30:48.880 You know, dwell on our arguments for a little while, dwell in 01:30:48.880 --> 01:30:51.120 sc scripture daily and forever. 01:30:51.280 --> 01:30:55.200 If our arguments are sound because they're from scripture, do something with 01:30:55.200 --> 01:30:57.360 them that isn't gonna destroy your life. 01:30:58.080 --> 01:31:01.520 Make scripture the anchor in everything that you do. 01:31:01.520 --> 01:31:05.760 Because what we're saying is that the world is trying to destroy 01:31:05.760 --> 01:31:11.280 scripture and it's destroying it verse by verse without addressing it directly. 01:31:11.280 --> 01:31:13.040 And so Christians have been disarmed. 01:31:13.040 --> 01:31:15.840 And so when these arguments are made that there's neither Jew nor 01:31:15.840 --> 01:31:17.600 Greek, we think, well, yeah, yeah, yeah, that's good. 01:31:17.600 --> 01:31:19.680 That's there's no race, that Darwin invented that. 01:31:20.000 --> 01:31:20.880 that's postmodern. 01:31:20.880 --> 01:31:24.160 That's Marxism, you know, whatever whatever label you want to stick on 01:31:24.160 --> 01:31:29.840 it. When you've allied yourself with people who are universally damned, where 01:31:29.840 --> 01:31:31.680 is your salvation then? 01:31:31.680 --> 01:31:34.320 Have you turned your back on the true faith if you're doing 01:31:34.320 --> 01:31:38.880 things that belong to a morality that didn't come from God? 01:31:38.880 --> 01:31:41.680 So I'll leave you with John sixteen. 01:31:41.680 --> 01:31:44.400 I have said all these things to you to keep you from 01:31:44.400 --> 01:31:45.520 falling away. 01:31:45.520 --> 01:31:47.680 They will put you out of the synagogues. 01:31:47.680 --> 01:31:51.440 Indeed the hour is coming when whoever kills you will think he 01:31:51.440 --> 01:31:53.520 is offering service to God. 01:31:53.520 --> 01:31:56.480 And they will do these things because they have not known the 01:31:56.480 --> 01:31:57.920 Father nor me. 01:31:57.920 --> 01:32:01.200 But I have said these things to you, that when their hour 01:32:01.200 --> 01:32:06.560 comes you may remember that I told them to you. 01:32:06.560 --> 01:32:07.200 Amen