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<v Speaker 2>Welcome to the Stone Choir Podcast.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>I am Corey J.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>Mahler.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>I'm Wo.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>Today's episode of Stone Choir as well as next week's episode will</v>

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<v Speaker 3>both be dealing with the subject of feminism, of women's liberation, of</v>

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<v Speaker 3>the role and nature of the woman in the Christian life, in</v>

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<v Speaker 3>the life of the world and the life of the family, and</v>

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<v Speaker 3>what it means both for Christians and civilizationally when these things are</v>

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<v Speaker 3>usurped from outside of the church.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>Uh initially we had hoped to do this all as one episode,</v>

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<v Speaker 3>uh the way we did with slavery last week, but as we</v>

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<v Speaker 3>were sort of talking and discussing and just thinking through what we</v>

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<v Speaker 3>wanted to say, we realized that even speed running just the scriptural</v>

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<v Speaker 3>part of this was probably gonna take you know i even going</v>

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<v Speaker 3>at a fast clip, yeah, we'll probably blow past ninety minutes today.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>So re Rather than trying to shoehorn it onto one, I think</v>

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<v Speaker 3>we're just gonna decide up front to split it into two.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>So today's episode is going to specifically focus on the scriptural basis</v>

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<v Speaker 3>for the ontological difference between man and woman and what and what</v>

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<v Speaker 3>God intends by making one of each.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>Why are we different?</v>

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<v Speaker 3>How are we different?</v>

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<v Speaker 3>What was the purpose of our being created differently and unequally?</v>

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<v Speaker 3>And once we establish that this week, next week's episode is going</v>

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<v Speaker 3>to specifically deal almost entirely with what has happened really in the</v>

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<v Speaker 3>West since the Enlightenment.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>It's interesting you can go read through the Wikipedia article on like</v>

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<v Speaker 3>women's liberation, you know, the the role the evolution of women in</v>

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<v Speaker 3>society and everything in the West, there's stuff that happened in Greece</v>

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<v Speaker 3>and Rome, and then there's not really any updates until the Enlightenment.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>And the reason for that is that when the last of the</v>

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<v Speaker 3>pagan kingdoms, which were really in uh Scandinavia, finally adopted Christianity, feminism</v>

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<v Speaker 3>as we know it today in any form, died in the West.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>And there was really a homogeneity in the way that Christendom dealt</v>

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<v Speaker 3>with and viewed women vis-a-vis men.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>And that only began to change after the Enlightenment.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>And so that you find this a lot when you're I I</v>

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<v Speaker 3>actually recommend reading Wikipedia articles on these things because they're slanted in</v>

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<v Speaker 3>the liberal direction, they're going to be bragging about what they've done.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>So they're actually very informative in terms of the timeline.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>And what you'll find in a lot of these sociological so called</v>

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<v Speaker 3>subjects, the reason we're talking about is it's not sociological, it's theological.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>But what you'll find is that you'll have stuff two thousand years</v>

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<v Speaker 3>ago and then there's a gap and then in the eighteen hundreds</v>

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<v Speaker 3>it picks up again in the West.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>And that's the reason why is that morality changed a couple hundred</v>

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<v Speaker 3>years ago as the West began to abandon Christianity.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>So this first episode about feminism is going to specifically discuss Christianity,</v>

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<v Speaker 3>what scripture says about it.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>And then next next week we'll talk about the destruction that has</v>

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<v Speaker 3>been done to the Christian doctrine by the adoption of notions of</v>

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<v Speaker 3>feminism, whether it's first, second, or third wave, the notion of the</v>

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<v Speaker 3>brand new sin of misogyny for which men are now being excommunicated</v>

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<v Speaker 3>from our churches, uh that's a pretty big deal that we have</v>

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<v Speaker 3>new doctrine that is damning men that for literally six thousand years</v>

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<v Speaker 3>of Christian history minus what has happened since the Enlightenment.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>Everyone believed the same thing.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>It's a recurring theme on Stone Choir because it is one of</v>

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<v Speaker 3>the fundamental issue issues facing the entire church.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>So as we get in dig into scripture, we're going to begin</v>

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<v Speaker 3>at the very beginning with Genesis two.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>think I may actually begin with Genesis one because it is then</v>

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<v Speaker 2>echoed in Genesis 2.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>But because obviously of course we have two narratives, not different narratives,</v>

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<v Speaker 2>but two narratives, the second being an expanded of the first of</v>

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<v Speaker 2>the creation of man.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>And so I'll start with Genesis one verse twenty six.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>Then God said, Let us make man in our image after our</v>

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<v Speaker 2>likeness, and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea,</v>

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<v Speaker 2>and over the birds of the heavens, and over the livestock, and</v>

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<v Speaker 2>over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creeps on</v>

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<v Speaker 2>the earth.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>So God created man in his own image, in the image of</v>

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<v Speaker 2>God he created him, male and female he created them, and God</v>

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<v Speaker 2>blessed them, and God said to them, Be fruitful and multiply, and</v>

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<v Speaker 2>fill the earth and subdue it, and have dominion over the fish</v>

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<v Speaker 2>of the sea, and over the birds of the heavens, and over</v>

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<v Speaker 2>every living thing that moves on the earth.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>Now of course it's tempting to turn this into a lecture on</v>

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<v Speaker 2>Genesis, but that's not our goal today.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>We're going to f focus specifically on how scripture treats the interplay</v>

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<v Speaker 2>between men and women, the nature of woman, and things like that</v>

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<v Speaker 2>And so I want to start here because it is worth pointing</v>

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<v Speaker 2>out, contrary to what so many argue today, this does not actually</v>

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<v Speaker 2>say that God created woman in his own image.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>This says that God created man in his own image, because it</v>

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<v Speaker 2>says God created man in his own image, that is singular, masculine</v>

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<v Speaker 2>there. And then it says in the image of God he created</v>

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<v Speaker 2>him. Again, that is singular masculine.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>And so of course then we have the expanded narration of the</v>

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<v Speaker 2>creation of mankind in Genesis two, starting with verse fifteen.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>The Lord God took the man and put him in the garden</v>

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<v Speaker 2>of Eden to work it and keep it, and the Lord God</v>

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<v Speaker 2>commanded the man saying, You may surely eat of every tree of</v>

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<v Speaker 2>the garden, but of the tree of the knowledge of good and</v>

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<v Speaker 2>evil you shall not eat, for in the day that you eat</v>

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<v Speaker 2>of it you shall surely die.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>Then the Lord God said, It is not good that man should</v>

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<v Speaker 2>be alone, I will make him a helper fit for him.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>Now out of the ground the Lord God had formed every beast</v>

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<v Speaker 2>of the field, and every bird of the heavens, and brought them</v>

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<v Speaker 2>to the man, to see what he would call them, and whatever</v>

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<v Speaker 2>the man called every living creature, that was its name.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>The man gave names to all livestock, and to the birds of</v>

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<v Speaker 2>the heavens, and to every beast of the field, but for Adam</v>

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<v Speaker 2>there was not found a helper fit for him.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>So the Lord God caused a deep sleep to fall upon the</v>

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<v Speaker 2>man, and while he slept took one of his ribs enclosed of</v>

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<v Speaker 2>its place with flesh.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>And the rib that the Lord God had taken from the man</v>

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<v Speaker 2>he made into a woman and brought her to the man.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>Then the man said, This at last is bone of my bones,</v>

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<v Speaker 2>and flesh of my flesh.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>She shall be called woman, because she was taken out of man.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>Therefore a man shall leave his father and his mother, and hold</v>

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<v Speaker 2>fast to his wife, and they shall become one flesh.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>There are a number of things we need to pull out of</v>

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<v Speaker 2>this passage.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>First it is worth noting</v>

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<v Speaker 2>who named Adam.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>God named Adam.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>Naming is an exercise of ownership, of possession, of authority over someone</v>

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<v Speaker 2>or something.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>That's why parents name their children.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>That's why some people name inanimate objects, but why most people name</v>

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<v Speaker 2>their pets.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>It is an exercise of ownership and exercise of dominance Of dominion,</v>

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<v Speaker 2>and so God brings the animals to Adam, Adam names them, because</v>

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<v Speaker 2>Adam is the steward of creation, he is given dominion over all</v>

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<v Speaker 2>of these things.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>This is a demonstration of the dominion</v>

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<v Speaker 2>of Adam over creation, and that includes woman, because you will note</v>

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<v Speaker 2>that Adam calls her woman.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>Later on he also names her Eve, but here he calls her</v>

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<v Speaker 2>woman. There's some word play here which actually works pretty well in</v>

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<v Speaker 2>the English, merely as a quirk of historical etymology, but because the</v>

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<v Speaker 2>word that is used here, as opposed to earlier were the generic</v>

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<v Speaker 2>term for man is Adam, in fact the name of Adam is</v>

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<v Speaker 2>both man and Adam.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>Here it's Ish and Isha, so it's a play on words there</v>

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<v Speaker 2>that does come through, thankfully, in the English.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>But we note that woman is created out of man, as opposed</v>

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<v Speaker 2>to man who was created from the earth.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>There is a theological point there.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>Woman is from man, man names woman, man is the head of</v>

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<v Speaker 2>woman, and we'll see that of course later, more explicitly in other</v>

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<v Speaker 2>parts of Scripture.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>But man and woman also come back together.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>They were from one flesh, Eve having been created from Adam, they</v>

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<v Speaker 2>come back together as one flesh, as man and wife, and that</v>

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<v Speaker 2>is how the blessings of God to be fruitful and multiply are</v>

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<v Speaker 2>retained to humanity by that one flesh union which we call marriage.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>I'm glad that you you jump back to Genesis one to point</v>

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<v Speaker 3>to the discussion of the image of God.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>That's reiterated actually in Genesis five.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>It reads When God created man he made him in the likeness</v>

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<v Speaker 3>of God, male and female he created them, and he blessed them</v>

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<v Speaker 3>and named them man when they were created.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>This is why we are called mankind.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>This is why linguistically, for example in in languages like Latin, if</v>

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<v Speaker 3>there was a single man in a group, the masculine form would</v>

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<v Speaker 3>be used to describe the group.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>The only time you would have a the feminine in Latin would</v>

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<v Speaker 3>be if everyone that you're referring to was female.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>So</v>

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<v Speaker 3>this has always been baked into creation.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>It's been baked into previous languages.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>It was baked into the English language until really the last thirty</v>

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<v Speaker 3>years or so when suddenly the masculine form of language as generic</v>

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<v Speaker 3>is no longer permissible, but it's it's called gendered language.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>In fact, we have even church bodies like Wells going so far</v>

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<v Speaker 3>as to change the the creeds to remove the so-called gendered language</v>

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<v Speaker 3>to say that Christ Christ was m created human and not created</v>

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<v Speaker 3>man, which is vulgar on multiple levels.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>But that's that's the reason that we're pointing to this stuff is</v>

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<v Speaker 3>that these small, small details that can seem like they're picky and</v>

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<v Speaker 3>you know, why are these guys being defensive?</v>

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<v Speaker 3>Why does anyone care?</v>

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<v Speaker 3>Well, I think the real question is why do people care when</v>

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<v Speaker 3>they're pushing in the opposite direction?</v>

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<v Speaker 3>When someone wants to talk about what the image of God meant</v>

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<v Speaker 3>at creation, let's listen to what God actually said.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>And he said, man was created in his image.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>And when you look at the passage in Genesis 127 or so,</v>

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<v Speaker 3>it's verbally awkward.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>It would have been much easier to not say male and female</v>

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<v Speaker 3>he created them while ignoring the image part.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>If the image were obviously to apply to both, it was simply</v>

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<v Speaker 3>said so.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>And so that re repetition with exclusion has to be significant.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>And it's repeated.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>It's repeated not only in in Genesis, it's also repeated in the</v>

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<v Speaker 3>New Testament.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>I think we'll get to one of those passages later.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>But uh you'd also mention naming as is an act of authority.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>In one of the early episodes we did a name no man</v>

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<v Speaker 3>knows, we spent some time talking about that, about the authority of</v>

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<v Speaker 3>being able to name something, about the reason that pseudonymity and anonymity</v>

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<v Speaker 3>make some people so angry because they want to exercise authority over</v>

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<v Speaker 3>someone and they don't know their name.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>And that is limiting.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>When you don't know, for example, my name, there's only so much</v>

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<v Speaker 3>you can do to me.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>Once you do know my name, there's more stuff you can do</v>

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<v Speaker 3>to me.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>And when someone wants to do harm to someone, when someone wants</v>

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<v Speaker 3>to they will claim exercise authority in a godly fashion, but we'll</v>

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<v Speaker 3>see what the results of those will be and they're not going</v>

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<v Speaker 3>to be godly, uh but the the results will speak for themselves.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>Naming has authority.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>And when Adam named Eve, just as Adam named all the other</v>

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<v Speaker 3>creatures, as you said, that was an exercise of dominion.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>And as we discussed last week when we were talking about slavery,</v>

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<v Speaker 3>dominion has come to mean ruling mercilessly, or authoritarianism in the negative</v>

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<v Speaker 3>sense of the word, where if you rule, if you have dominion,</v>

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<v Speaker 3>that's it's the worst thing you can do.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>it's inherently an act of cruelty in our minds today.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>And that's not godly.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>God has dominion over us.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>Is that cruelty?</v>

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<v Speaker 3>Well, that is absolutely what Satan wants us to believe.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>That was the pitch that the Satan gave to Eve.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>In essence, that God was cruel by not letting them eat the</v>

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<v Speaker 3>fruit. And he said, Look how delicious it is, and you'll be</v>

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<v Speaker 3>like God.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>And so she fell for it.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>And that's always the pitch.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>The if someone is over you, they're ruthless.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>they're heartless.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>They're doing something to you that's bad.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>And the only way for you to escape this evil that you</v>

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<v Speaker 3>just realized is to fight the patriarchy, to fight the headship, to</v>

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<v Speaker 3>subvert the rule over you.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>That's the essence of everything that's happened since the Enlightenment.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>In a nutshell, that's what's been happening.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>One by one.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>No gods, no masters, no masters and slaves, no man over woman.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>You can go right through Galatians 320A, you can go right down</v>

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<v Speaker 3>the entire high hierarchy of headship, and you'll find that the world</v>

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<v Speaker 3>today and the morality that all of us have been taught to</v>

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<v Speaker 3>hold is fundamentally at odds with created order.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>And one of the reasons that we're starting in Genesis is not</v>

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<v Speaker 3>only that it's the beginning, but as we establish that God's headship</v>

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<v Speaker 3>beginning with woman being created from man and as a helper, I</v>

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<v Speaker 3>think we're I'm gonna refer back to Genesis two eighteen repeatedly that</v>

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<v Speaker 3>the the passage then the Lord God said, It is not good</v>

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<v Speaker 3>that man should be alone, I will milk make a helper fit</v>

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<v Speaker 3>for him.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>That's the essence of everything that we're going to say here today</v>

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<v Speaker 3>in both Old and New Testament.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>Because this is before the fall.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>This is before there was any sin in the world.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>This was before there was the curse against either Adam or Eve,</v>

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<v Speaker 3>which obviously applies to every man and to every woman in turn.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>Before there was any evil, God said, It's not good for man</v>

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<v Speaker 3>to be alone.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>I'm gonna give him a woman.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>I'm gonna give him a helper fit for him.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>The reason that that's going to be important throughout this episode and</v>

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<v Speaker 3>throughout the second part of the subsequent episode is that</v>

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<v Speaker 3>helper inherently has a help E.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>So Adam he existed by himself.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>He was able to do what he needed to do.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>But God said, That's not, I'm not done.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>Adam needs more.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>He needs a helper.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>Eve, on the other hand, was created to be a helper.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>In other words, her definition is pointed directly at Adam.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>Her purpose is to be a helper.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>Absent someone to help, she has no purpose.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>And that's fundamentally the root of what we see feminism doing in</v>

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<v Speaker 3>the hearts and minds of those who adopt it by any measure</v>

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<v Speaker 3>is the notion that a woman can be strong and independent and</v>

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<v Speaker 3>oh that's great and you go girl.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>And what it does is it fundamentally uproots a woman from the</v>

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<v Speaker 3>only task to which God has created her and the only thing</v>

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<v Speaker 3>that's ultimately going to make her happy.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>So when we discuss these things like slavery, like headship, like the</v>

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<v Speaker 3>roles of men and women, it is never in the pursuit of</v>

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<v Speaker 3>subjugation or cruelty or saying you are less than, you need to</v>

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<v Speaker 3>be ruled.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>That's not the point.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>The point is that if God has ordained a certain order and</v>

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<v Speaker 3>we try to break it and subvert it, what's gonna happen?</v>

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<v Speaker 3>The punishment for sin, the temporal punishment, and there is temporal punishment</v>

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<v Speaker 3>for every sin.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>Every time you do something wrong, God paid for it on the</v>

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<v Speaker 3>cross, but you're still going to pay the price in this life</v>

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<v Speaker 3>somehow. And the the punishments for these sins are usually baked right</v>

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<v Speaker 3>into the sin.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>If you know, if someone decides to assert self identity and they</v>

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<v Speaker 3>say, I was born a man, but I'm I want to be</v>

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<v Speaker 3>a woman now, well the first things they do is they change</v>

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<v Speaker 3>their name.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>As we said in the name No Man Knows episode, that is</v>

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<v Speaker 3>an assertion of self ownership.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>Trannies are throwing off the shackles of God and saying, I am</v>

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<v Speaker 3>my own maker.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>I am remaking by naming myself and I'm going to remake my</v>

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<v Speaker 3>body. What do they do when they destroy their bodies and they</v>

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<v Speaker 3>destroy their minds by injecting hormones that do not belong in them?</v>

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<v Speaker 3>Complete destruction.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>It leads to madness.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>It leads to despair.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>They consume their own bodies in their sin.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>And because they're given over to that delusion, it's all consuming.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>And in in many cases, there's no way for them to get</v>

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<v Speaker 3>back out of it because they go down this path of destruction.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>So the sin was believing that God had made them wrong, which</v>

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<v Speaker 3>is itself high-handed sin.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>But the further they go down that path, the more destruction that</v>

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<v Speaker 3>sin causes in their lives.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>And so when we talk about the order of creation and how</v>

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<v Speaker 3>God has made each of us, it's ultimately serving and obeying God</v>

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<v Speaker 3>and saying, if God made me for this purpose, I can't just</v>

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<v Speaker 3>veto that.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>I can't find a workaround and say I'm gonna ignore it.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>Because try as we might, our nature is immutable.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>If God made you a man, you are a man.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>And if he made you a woman, you are a woman.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>You don't get a vote.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>And if some days you feel a little weird about it, pray</v>

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<v Speaker 3>for help.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>And if you need to talk to someone, seek help.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>But to believe that God made a mistake is apostasy.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>It's to say that God is not God because God cannot make</v>

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<v Speaker 3>mistakes. If you believe that God made a mistake to either make</v>

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<v Speaker 3>you a woman or to you know, maybe you admit that he</v>

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<v Speaker 3>made you a woman, but you're gonna say, Well, I don't I</v>

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<v Speaker 3>don't like the role he gave me.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>I want a different role.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>I want to be in charge.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>That is rebellion against the very God who has given you the</v>

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<v Speaker 3>gifts of whatever your station is.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>And so these conversations are important again, not</v>

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<v Speaker 3>because we are men who are seeking dominion over other races or</v>

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<v Speaker 3>over the weaker sex.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>There's nothing of the sort.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>It's all of us saying</v>

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<v Speaker 3>God is our head, He has ordained order among us.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>The further we stray from that, the worse we make everything.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>And what we see around us in the world today is everything</v>

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<v Speaker 3>being made worse by us, ceasing to believe that God actually meant</v>

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<v Speaker 3>what he did and meant what he said.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>And so when he says these things in scripture, it's imperative for</v>

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<v Speaker 3>us to listen.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>When I say dominion, I just think lordship.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>And when I use either of those terms, from my perspective, they're</v>

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<v Speaker 2>entirely neutral because I know the etymology and what they mean.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>For most people, yes, they're going to have imbibed the implications</v>

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<v Speaker 2>the world infuses into those terms, and that of course is negative</v>

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<v Speaker 2>because it is a rejection on the part of the world of</v>

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<v Speaker 2>rightful hierarchy, authority, etc.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>But dominion just comes from dominus in Latin which just means Lord.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>I have dominion over my property, I have dominion over my dog.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>Parents have dominion over their children.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>This is a neutral term.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>How you exercise it is what makes it good or bad, good</v>

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<v Speaker 2>or evil.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>And so dominion in and of itself</v>

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<v Speaker 2>is more or less morally neutral.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>It's good in so far as it is part of God's design</v>

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<v Speaker 2>for creation, but how it is exercised is what gives it its</v>

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<v Speaker 2>moral character</v>

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<v Speaker 2>The reason it's under</v>

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<v Speaker 3>assault. The reason it's under assault is precisely because Satan doesn't want</v>

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<v Speaker 3>God to be Lord.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>He doesn't want Jesus Christ to be Lord.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>All of this is fundamentally rooted in upending God's headship in his</v>

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<v Speaker 3>orders. And that that's why it's becoming a dirty word.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>And most people today think it is a dirty word.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>You're right.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>And that's we're talking about this head on precisely because this is</v>

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<v Speaker 3>a satanic attack.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>Feminism is a satanic attack on God and on the church, just</v>

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<v Speaker 3>as the abolition of slavery as a notion is a satanic attack.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>It is saying we are all equal, we are completely horizontal.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>There's no differences among men.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>There's no difference between man and woman.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>When God when Satan uses Galatians three twenty-eight as a template for</v>

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<v Speaker 3>undoing creation, we need to pay attention and then we need to</v>

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<v Speaker 3>fight</v>

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back.

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<v Speaker 2>Satan was the first rebel.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>Alinsky did get that right.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>And</v>

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<v Speaker 2>the whole goal of rebels in this sort of area is to</v>

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<v Speaker 2>overthrow rightful authority.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>It's not saying that rebels are always wrong, because of course someone</v>

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<v Speaker 2>could rebel against unlawful or wicked uses of authority, and that's a</v>

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<v Speaker 2>different matter for a different time Perhaps we'll eventually get around to</v>

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<v Speaker 2>an episode on Magnabird and related things.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>But Satan's entire goal is to subvert the right ordering of creation</v>

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<v Speaker 2>because he wants to be God.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>But of course, you may notice the irony there.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>He doesn't want to get rid of hierarchy, he just wants to</v>

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<v Speaker 2>be at the top of it.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>And that is the same thing that he tries to get his</v>

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<v Speaker 2>children to do.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>And so feminism fundamentally is an attempt</v>

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<v Speaker 2>by women to replace men at the top of the hierarchy.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>They don't want equality.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>They never want equality.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>That's not the goal.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>Satan's goal wasn't equality with God.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>Satan's goal was to be God.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>The goal of feminists is to supplant men and be in charge</v>

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<v Speaker 2>in the place of men.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>Some of them go so far as say they want to get</v>

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<v Speaker 2>rid of men.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know how that's going to work out, but</v>

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<v Speaker 2>they want to be in control.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>They want to take that role of headship and leadership that God</v>

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<v Speaker 2>gave to man and make that their own.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>And I think that's a good</v>

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<v Speaker 2>transition into the fall.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>We could talk more about teleology because that was touched on, but</v>

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<v Speaker 2>I think we'll save that for later in the episode or possibly</v>

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<v Speaker 2>the next episode.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>Instead of just reading through Genesis 3, and I recommend you go</v>

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<v Speaker 2>and do that, we'll talk through what happens in the fall, what</v>

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<v Speaker 2>the fall is, and the nature of the curses that flow from</v>

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<v Speaker 2>the fall.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>And so of course we all know the narrative of the fall.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>The serpent deceives the woman, the woman takes the fruit, eats, and</v>

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<v Speaker 2>gives it to her husband.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>Now, Scripture is very clear, and this also comes up in the</v>

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<v Speaker 2>New Testament it is the woman who was deceived, it is the</v>

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<v Speaker 2>weaker vessel who was deceived by the serpent, and became a transgressor.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>However, her husband is standing there while she does this.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>And so we could debate almost endlessly as to which sin was</v>

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<v Speaker 2>the first sin.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>In the garden, anyway, because obviously Satan has already fallen at this</v>

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<v Speaker 2>point, he is the deceiver, he is bringing sin into the world.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>You have the sin of Eve because she listens to the serpent</v>

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<v Speaker 2>instead of asking her husband, which is what she should have done.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>He's standing there.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>He is her head.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>He is the one who should make the decision.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>But you also have the sin of Adam, who Adam who as</v>

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<v Speaker 2>the head is standing there, passively observing.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>When he should have interjected, he should be the one, either talking</v>

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<v Speaker 2>to or rejecting the serpent, instead of sitting back and seeing what</v>

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<v Speaker 2>happens with his wife.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>And so then we have the curses that flow from this.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>I'll just read through</v>

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<v Speaker 2>Already the the fullness of the curses, the Lord God said to</v>

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<v Speaker 2>the serpent, Because you have done this, cursed are you above all</v>

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<v Speaker 2>livestock, and above all beasts of the field, on your belly you</v>

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<v Speaker 2>shall go, and dust you shall eat, all the days of your</v>

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<v Speaker 2>life, I will put enmity between you and the woman, and between</v>

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<v Speaker 2>your offspring and her offspring.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>He shall bruise your head, and you shall bruise his heel.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>To the woman he said, I will surely multiply your pain in</v>

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<v Speaker 2>childbearing. In pain you shall bring forth children.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>Your desire shall be contrary to your husband, but he shall rule</v>

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<v Speaker 2>over you.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>I'll pause for a second there because the word The word your</v>

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<v Speaker 2>desire shall be contrary to your husband can also be translated your</v>

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<v Speaker 2>desire shall be for your husband or against your husband.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>We'll get more into that into discussion.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>It's important to note there that the ESV that's a complete mistranslation.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>That is not an and, that is a but.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>And that's really crucial because one of the things that some feminists</v>

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<v Speaker 3>have tried to do with this verse when they s when it</v>

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<v Speaker 3>says, Your desire shall be contrary to your husband or shall be</v>

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<v Speaker 3>for your husband, but he shall rule over you, which is false.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>It's trying to set those in opposition to say, well, maybe one</v>

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<v Speaker 3>of those isn't quite a curse.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>When as we get as you get through the rest of what</v>

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<v Speaker 3>is said of Adam, every single phrase here in this passage is</v>

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<v Speaker 3>a direct curse against the recipient.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>You shall do your desire shall be contrary to your husband, is</v>

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<v Speaker 3>a curse, full stop, and he shall rule over you is also</v>

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<v Speaker 3>a curse.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>Now we'll get to that in a minute, but I just want</v>

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<v Speaker 3>to note that when EFC V says but they're lying.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>It's a blatant mistranslation specifically to try to to in in interject</v>

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<v Speaker 3>doubt into whether this entire thing is a curse.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>As I said, when when you read through what it says about</v>

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<v Speaker 3>Adam, every part of it is terrible news.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>Even the proto evangelium Which is delivered to Satan, which is good</v>

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<v Speaker 3>news for us, is a complete curse against Satan.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>The promise of a Messiah in Genesis 315 is a curse.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>That is the worst possible news for Satan.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>It's all bad news.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>It just so happens that the curse against Satan is the best</v>

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<v Speaker 3>possible news for us.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>So every word of this is evil in the proper sense.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>Every word of this is being delivered as punishment for evil.</v>

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Yes,

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<v Speaker 2>and the the underlying Greek here the word that the ESV translates</v>

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<v Speaker 2>as but is chi, which is and</v>

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<v Speaker 2>so the curse on Adam then, and to Adam he said, Because</v>

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<v Speaker 2>you have listened to the voice of your wife, and have eaten</v>

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<v Speaker 2>of the tree, of which I commanded you, you shall not eat</v>

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<v Speaker 2>of it.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>Cursed is the ground because of you.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>In pain you shall eat of it all the days of your</v>

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<v Speaker 2>life, thorns and thistles it shall bring forth for you, and you</v>

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<v Speaker 2>shall eat the plants of the field, by the sweat of your</v>

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<v Speaker 2>face you shall eat bread, till you return to the ground, for</v>

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<v Speaker 2>out of it you were taken, for you are dust, and to</v>

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<v Speaker 2>dust you shall return.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>And then I'll read the the next verse as well because we</v>

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<v Speaker 2>touched on it earlier, but it's good to also read the verse</v>

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<v Speaker 2>itself. The man called his wife's name Eve, because she was the</v>

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<v Speaker 2>mother of all living, and so again we see that exercise of</v>

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<v Speaker 2>dominion of headship by Adam over his wife.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>He names her Eve.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>And so to turn back to the curses, the serpent is dealt</v>

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<v Speaker 2>with somewhat summarily.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>It's just cursed are you above all livestock.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>And then of course we get the Proto Evangelian, which is bad</v>

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<v Speaker 2>news as stated for Satan, even if it is good news, of</v>

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<v Speaker 2>course, for us.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>But the curse for the woman and the man will focus on</v>

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<v Speaker 2>those two.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>You will note first that the nature of the curse goes to</v>

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<v Speaker 2>the core of the nature of the of the one who is</v>

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<v Speaker 2>cursed. And so Adam is cursed with regard to his work.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>He is cursed with regard to the work of being a gardener,</v>

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<v Speaker 2>a man of the soil, a husbandman, because that is what man</v>

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<v Speaker 2>was made to do.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>We have that in Genesis when man was made he was placed</v>

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<v Speaker 2>in the garden to work and to keep it.</v>

00:29:21.520 --> 00:29:25.440
<v Speaker 2>That is the purpose for which God made man originally.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>And here we see that now it will only be by the</v>

00:29:28.880 --> 00:29:34.320
<v Speaker 2>sweat of his face, by labor, toil, suffering, and pain, that work</v>

00:29:34.400 --> 00:29:38.400
<v Speaker 2>that originally would not have included these things, would not have entailed</v>

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<v Speaker 2>these, it would have been a joyful thing to do this work</v>

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<v Speaker 2>in the garden.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>Now it is toil, now it is labor, not simply work.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>And so for the woman, the curse also goes to the core</v>

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<v Speaker 2>of her nature, because in her nature she is a wife and</v>

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<v Speaker 2>a mother, and so it is her pain in childbearing that God</v>

00:30:01.120 --> 00:30:07.120
<v Speaker 2>multiplies, because that goes to her nature as wife, because she can't</v>

00:30:07.120 --> 00:30:11.360
<v Speaker 2>have children without a husband, without a man, and mother, because obviously</v>

00:30:11.440 --> 00:30:14.720
<v Speaker 2>she has the children by burying them, and that is where the</v>

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<v Speaker 2>pain enters as part of this curse.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>But additionally, she is cursed in that her submission to her husband</v>

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<v Speaker 2>will no longer be</v>

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<v Speaker 2>natural as it was before the fall.</v>

00:30:30.160 --> 00:30:34.880
<v Speaker 2>Before the fall, woman submitting to man is simply the order of</v>

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<v Speaker 2>things. It is the nature of things now that rests less easily</v>

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<v Speaker 2>upon woman.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>Now it is in her nature to want to rebel.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>This is sort of a solidifying of what she did in the</v>

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<v Speaker 2>fall, because in the fall she listened to the serpent.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>She decided for herself she acted as the head instead of asking</v>

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<v Speaker 2>her husband, instead of letting him be the head.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>Yes he should have stepped up and done it himself, but she</v>

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<v Speaker 2>also should have submitted instead of what she did, and so she</v>

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<v Speaker 2>is confirmed in this after a fashion, and now her desires are</v>

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<v Speaker 2>contrary to her husband, which is to say, she wants to be</v>

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<v Speaker 2>in the place of headship.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>She wants to rule, she wants to be the head.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>But her desire is also for her husband.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>Because woman still has some of that desire to be in the</v>

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<v Speaker 2>proper hierarchy.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>To properly submit to her husband.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>It does not come as easily as it would have prior to</v>

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<v Speaker 2>the fall, but it is still there.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>And of course, man shall still rule over woman.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>This is both a reaffirmation</v>

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<v Speaker 2>of the nature of things of the order created by God prior</v>

00:31:49.440 --> 00:31:54.240
<v Speaker 2>to the fall, and a statement of how things will continue to</v>

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<v Speaker 2>operate after the fall.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>But of course this is now rule over the woman, which is</v>

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<v Speaker 2>a more active and less agreeable matter than would have been the</v>

00:32:08.320 --> 00:32:11.520
<v Speaker 2>sort of headship exercised before the fall.</v>

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And

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<v Speaker 3>it's important to note with the word that's translated desire here, that</v>

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<v Speaker 3>only appears two other times in scripture.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>And the most immediate one is again in Genesis 4.7, just a</v>

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<v Speaker 3>few, you know, less than a page later after this curse.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>So I'm gonna read what what was said to Eve first and</v>

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<v Speaker 3>then immediately what was said about Cain to Eve.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>Your desire shall be contrary to your husband and he shall rule</v>

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<v Speaker 3>over you.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>And then so Cain was very angry and his face fell.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>The Lord said to Cain, Why are you so angry and why</v>

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<v Speaker 3>has your face fallen?</v>

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<v Speaker 3>If you do well, will you not be accepted?</v>

00:32:48.000 --> 00:32:51.120
<v Speaker 3>And if you do not do well, sin is crouching at the</v>

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<v Speaker 3>door. Its desire is contrary to</v>

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<v Speaker 3>you, but you must rule over it.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>I think it's really important to read these two passages in light</v>

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<v Speaker 3>of each other, because when we try to imagine what desire might</v>

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<v Speaker 3>be, well it's not talking about the sort of you know lust</v>

00:33:07.280 --> 00:33:10.240
<v Speaker 3>or any sort of desire that is referred to in the New</v>

00:33:10.400 --> 00:33:16.320
<v Speaker 3>Testament. It's specifically referring to the type of desire that Cain's sin</v>

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<v Speaker 3>had against him.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>Again it says sin is crouching at the door.</v>

00:33:20.960 --> 00:33:25.520
<v Speaker 3>It's desire, sin's desire is contrary to you, but you must rule</v>

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<v Speaker 3>over it.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>Now that almost perfectly mirrors the second half of this curse against</v>

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<v Speaker 3>Eve. So the notion that</v>

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<v Speaker 3>the desire is almost an operant force outside of the self.</v>

00:33:39.440 --> 00:33:43.680
<v Speaker 3>if a sin can have a desire and Eve's desire both are</v>

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<v Speaker 3>contrary to the good thing, which is the husband, or in Cain's</v>

00:33:48.000 --> 00:33:52.400
<v Speaker 3>case, against himself, who was own his own sinful nature.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>I think that when you read those passages together it makes very</v>

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<v Speaker 3>clear the nature of what the woman every woman has to struggle</v>

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<v Speaker 3>against. And one thing that's frankly it's really missing from our our</v>

00:34:03.520 --> 00:34:07.520
<v Speaker 3>pastor's preaching and it needs to come back, women are cursed.</v>

00:34:07.520 --> 00:34:12.240
<v Speaker 3>God has cursed women to struggle against their husbands and against their</v>

00:34:12.240 --> 00:34:13.520
<v Speaker 3>fathers before that.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>And now with the advent of feminism, and many of our pastors</v>

00:34:16.880 --> 00:34:20.880
<v Speaker 3>today are feminists, it's not only a an egregious sin among women.</v>

00:34:21.040 --> 00:34:23.920
<v Speaker 3>It feminism is normal in our society.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>As I said, you will be excommunicated from the LCMS if you</v>

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<v Speaker 3>are a quote unquote misogynist.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>That is the religion of feminism.</v>

00:34:31.920 --> 00:34:34.960
<v Speaker 3>So it's not a small deal to point out that</v>

00:34:35.920 --> 00:34:40.080
<v Speaker 3>the woman is cursed in such a way that causes what she</v>

00:34:40.080 --> 00:34:44.000
<v Speaker 3>wants to be contrary to what God desires, to the order that</v>

00:34:44.000 --> 00:34:46.240
<v Speaker 3>God has established.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>And anyone who's who's read dating advice or marriage advice, or just</v>

00:34:52.000 --> 00:34:55.440
<v Speaker 3>if you if if you're a man and you've been around women</v>

00:34:55.440 --> 00:34:58.160
<v Speaker 3>for any length of time in a relationship, you know that that</v>

00:34:58.240 --> 00:35:01.840
<v Speaker 3>sort of struggle and pushback, you know, that's called a a certain</v>

00:35:01.840 --> 00:35:03.920
<v Speaker 3>type of testing, if you're familiar with the term, I'm not going</v>

00:35:03.920 --> 00:35:06.480
<v Speaker 3>to mention it here, but it never goes away.</v>

00:35:06.480 --> 00:35:10.080
<v Speaker 3>It's something that is always there and it's a test.</v>

00:35:10.080 --> 00:35:13.360
<v Speaker 3>It's a constant prodding and poking just to see are you still</v>

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<v Speaker 3>the man?</v>

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<v Speaker 3>Are you still my head?</v>

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<v Speaker 3>Because a woman knows the second that a man abdicates his headship,</v>

00:35:20.240 --> 00:35:23.280
<v Speaker 3>whether he gets tired of it or he's too weak for it,</v>

00:35:23.280 --> 00:35:26.880
<v Speaker 3>or he just you know, whatever excuse he has, if he fails</v>

00:35:26.880 --> 00:35:29.760
<v Speaker 3>to be the head, she will come roaring right back just as</v>

00:35:29.760 --> 00:35:30.960
<v Speaker 3>Eve did.</v>

00:35:30.960 --> 00:35:34.720
<v Speaker 3>And earlier Corey had mentioned the the order of sins.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>I just wanna reiterate the first part of that curse.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>And to Adam he said, Because you have listened to the voice</v>

00:35:42.480 --> 00:35:45.680
<v Speaker 3>of your wife, that was his first sin, that was Adam's first</v>

00:35:45.680 --> 00:35:48.240
<v Speaker 3>sin. And we inherit Adam's sin.</v>

00:35:48.240 --> 00:35:51.840
<v Speaker 3>We don't simply inherit the sin that he disobeyed God by eating</v>

00:35:51.840 --> 00:35:52.640
<v Speaker 3>the fruit.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>We inherit the first sin that he listened to his wife.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>And</v>

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<v Speaker 3>listen is is another term that has a few different common connotations.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>It's used it this it's a common word in the Hebrew word</v>

00:36:05.360 --> 00:36:09.920
<v Speaker 3>that's used, but one of the common connotations is heed or obey.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>And I just I highlighted that here because this is also echoed</v>

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<v Speaker 3>a bit later in Genesis in chapter 16.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>Now Sarai, Abram's wife, had borne him no children.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>She had a female Egyptian slave whose name was Hagar, and Sarai</v>

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<v Speaker 3>said to Abram, Behold now the Lord has prevented me from bearing</v>

00:36:27.520 --> 00:36:30.800
<v Speaker 3>children. Go into my slave, it may be that I shall obtain</v>

00:36:30.800 --> 00:36:35.440
<v Speaker 3>children by her, and Abram listened to the voice of Sarai.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>So twice in Genesis we have two major pivotal moments where a</v>

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<v Speaker 3>husband listens and heeds his wife's evil advice.</v>

00:36:43.680 --> 00:36:47.200
<v Speaker 3>Eve Eve had disobeyed God, she had disbelieved God, and she had</v>

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<v Speaker 3>listened to the voice of Satan.</v>

00:36:48.720 --> 00:36:51.360
<v Speaker 3>And here in Genesis sixteen, what is Sarai doing?</v>

00:36:51.360 --> 00:36:54.160
<v Speaker 3>She's saying God's keeping me from getting pregnant.</v>

00:36:54.160 --> 00:36:56.160
<v Speaker 3>He told me that I was going to have a son, and</v>

00:36:56.160 --> 00:36:58.160
<v Speaker 3>now it's years later and nothing's happening.</v>

00:36:58.160 --> 00:37:01.280
<v Speaker 3>You need to go have sex with my slave so that I</v>

00:37:01.280 --> 00:37:02.320
<v Speaker 3>can have an heir.</v>

00:37:02.320 --> 00:37:06.800
<v Speaker 3>It was open disobedience and did Abram correct her as Adam failed</v>

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<v Speaker 3>to correct Eve?</v>

00:37:07.600 --> 00:37:08.640
<v Speaker 3>No. He listened to her.</v>

00:37:08.880 --> 00:37:10.880
<v Speaker 3>And what is the result of that sin?</v>

00:37:10.880 --> 00:37:12.720
<v Speaker 3>We have Muslims.</v>

00:37:12.960 --> 00:37:17.040
<v Speaker 3>The punishment for all of humanity is a Muslims exist because Abram</v>

00:37:17.200 --> 00:37:18.880
<v Speaker 3>listened to the voice of his wife.</v>

00:37:18.880 --> 00:37:20.480
<v Speaker 3>That's a bad punishment.</v>

00:37:20.800 --> 00:37:24.480
<v Speaker 3>That is a huge deal that has left a permanent scar on</v>

00:37:24.480 --> 00:37:29.280
<v Speaker 3>humanity, on the face of the earth, on so many nations, it's</v>

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<v Speaker 3>impossible to name them.</v>

00:37:30.720 --> 00:37:35.200
<v Speaker 3>We don't understand what the human timeline would be like if not</v>

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<v Speaker 3>for this one sin resulting in the birth of the Arab race</v>

00:37:40.240 --> 00:37:43.120
<v Speaker 3>and the Muslims that rose among them.</v>

00:37:43.120 --> 00:37:49.200
<v Speaker 3>So temporal punishment for sin sometimes has little far reaching consequences.</v>

00:37:49.200 --> 00:37:51.120
<v Speaker 3>Abram listened to his wife.</v>

00:37:51.120 --> 00:37:54.320
<v Speaker 3>He did not push back against her curse.</v>

00:37:54.320 --> 00:37:57.200
<v Speaker 3>She was pushing him, just as God had cursed her to be</v>

00:37:57.360 --> 00:38:00.800
<v Speaker 3>to push, not that God caused her to sin, but part of</v>

00:38:00.800 --> 00:38:04.160
<v Speaker 3>her curse was to suffer under the delusion that she would know</v>

00:38:04.160 --> 00:38:06.480
<v Speaker 3>better than her husband what to do.</v>

00:38:06.480 --> 00:38:06.800
<v Speaker 3>And</v>

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<v Speaker 3>again, as we talk in the in the next episode about the</v>

00:38:11.040 --> 00:38:14.400
<v Speaker 3>genesis and the root of feminism, it's the very opposite of that.</v>

00:38:14.400 --> 00:38:18.080
<v Speaker 3>It celebrates the idea that women would be freed from the shackles</v>

00:38:18.080 --> 00:38:21.280
<v Speaker 3>of the bondage to men and to having to listen to what</v>

00:38:21.280 --> 00:38:24.800
<v Speaker 3>men tell them to do, to be freed from mansplaining.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>You know the the t the fact that there's a term for</v>

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<v Speaker 3>a man explaining something that's so derogatory and dismissive, he'll you always</v>

00:38:31.520 --> 00:38:34.000
<v Speaker 3>laugh at it today, but that's a big deal.</v>

00:38:34.000 --> 00:38:36.560
<v Speaker 3>The idea that a man would explain something to a woman has</v>

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<v Speaker 3>now become a caricature.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>Well that's literally the order that God created.</v>

00:38:41.440 --> 00:38:45.280
<v Speaker 3>And we've gone so far down this path of destruction of godly</v>

00:38:45.280 --> 00:38:49.200
<v Speaker 3>order that things that God ordained are now punchlines.</v>

00:38:49.680 --> 00:38:54.640
<v Speaker 2>And scripture is very clear to expand on the issue of the</v>

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<v Speaker 2>Arabs and Islam.</v>

00:38:57.120 --> 00:39:01.680
<v Speaker 2>In Genesis 16, later in that chapter, he shall be a wild</v>

00:39:01.680 --> 00:39:05.840
<v Speaker 2>donkey of a man, his hand against everyone, and everyone's hand against</v>

00:39:05.840 --> 00:39:10.080
<v Speaker 2>him, and he shall dwell over against all his kinsmen.</v>

00:39:10.080 --> 00:39:15.360
<v Speaker 2>God tells us exactly the nature of the nations that will flow</v>

00:39:15.360 --> 00:39:17.440
<v Speaker 2>from Ishmael, who of course is the son</v>

00:39:18.480 --> 00:39:22.400
<v Speaker 2>born to Abraham by Ahar.</v>

00:39:22.400 --> 00:39:25.440
<v Speaker 2>And I really, in a to return to the curse, in a</v>

00:39:25.440 --> 00:39:29.120
<v Speaker 2>very real way, most of the curse falls on man, which is</v>

00:39:29.200 --> 00:39:33.440
<v Speaker 2>of course appropriate, because as the head, man is responsible.</v>

00:39:33.440 --> 00:39:36.880
<v Speaker 2>And so the fact that woman rebels, yes, it's a curse on</v>

00:39:36.880 --> 00:39:41.440
<v Speaker 2>woman, it is something with which she has to struggle, but it</v>

00:39:41.440 --> 00:39:44.320
<v Speaker 2>really is a curse on man as well.</v>

00:39:44.320 --> 00:39:45.360
<v Speaker 2>Because now as</v>

00:39:46.480 --> 00:39:49.600
<v Speaker 2>a father you have to deal with rebellious daughters.</v>

00:39:49.600 --> 00:39:53.520
<v Speaker 2>As a husband, you have to deal with a rebellious wife.</v>

00:39:53.520 --> 00:39:59.360
<v Speaker 2>This is just a fact of the fallen nature of mankind.</v>

00:39:59.360 --> 00:40:01.440
<v Speaker 2>We don't get around it by ignoring it.</v>

00:40:01.440 --> 00:40:02.240
<v Speaker 2>We have to deal with it.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>And as was mentioned, pastors need to preach these things.</v>

00:40:05.920 --> 00:40:10.000
<v Speaker 2>These things need to be said to Christians, they are in Scripture.</v>

00:40:10.000 --> 00:40:11.920
<v Speaker 2>Christians need to hear them.</v>

00:40:11.920 --> 00:40:15.040
<v Speaker 2>You are supposed to teach the full counsel of God, not just</v>

00:40:15.040 --> 00:40:18.880
<v Speaker 2>the parts that don't make you uncomfortable, and don't make the women</v>

00:40:18.880 --> 00:40:21.840
<v Speaker 2>angry with you later on in the Bible study.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>This is what Scripture says.</v>

00:40:23.920 --> 00:40:26.640
<v Speaker 2>This is what Christians need to say.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>And it has explanatory power.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>It's not simply a condemnation of sin.</v>

00:40:31.440 --> 00:40:35.200
<v Speaker 3>I mean, the fact that women are cursed, we're not going near</v>

00:40:35.360 --> 00:40:36.240
<v Speaker 3>neaner boo-boo.</v>

00:40:36.240 --> 00:40:36.480
<v Speaker 3>Look at you.</v>

00:40:36.720 --> 00:40:40.880
<v Speaker 3>Like it's not it's not meant to be insulting.</v>

00:40:40.880 --> 00:40:41.920
<v Speaker 3>It's a fact.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>Women are cursed.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>Everyone knows that men are cursed.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>You know, men die earlier because our bodies typically are beaten up</v>

00:40:49.280 --> 00:40:52.800
<v Speaker 3>and even guys who do mi you know work with their minds,</v>

00:40:52.800 --> 00:40:56.560
<v Speaker 3>the stress of those jobs typically causes men to die younger.</v>

00:40:56.560 --> 00:40:59.600
<v Speaker 3>We get beaten up and worn out as part of the curse.</v>

00:40:59.600 --> 00:41:00.880
<v Speaker 3>And everybody knows it.</v>

00:41:00.880 --> 00:41:03.280
<v Speaker 3>And you know, the joke is that well, women live longer because</v>

00:41:03.280 --> 00:41:04.320
<v Speaker 3>they're more sensible.</v>

00:41:04.320 --> 00:41:08.080
<v Speaker 3>Well, maybe they live longer because they're not cursed for their work</v>

00:41:08.080 --> 00:41:09.360
<v Speaker 3>to be cursed.</v>

00:41:09.360 --> 00:41:13.120
<v Speaker 3>The curse of the woman is to to be ornry, to to</v>

00:41:13.120 --> 00:41:16.480
<v Speaker 3>be oppity, to to cause problems for her husband.</v>

00:41:16.480 --> 00:41:17.920
<v Speaker 3>And it's not malicious.</v>

00:41:18.080 --> 00:41:21.360
<v Speaker 3>And that's why that's the reason that pastors need to talk about</v>

00:41:21.440 --> 00:41:23.920
<v Speaker 3>I mean, malicious not might not be the right word.</v>

00:41:24.240 --> 00:41:27.920
<v Speaker 3>It's inherent, but It's not inexorable.</v>

00:41:27.920 --> 00:41:30.960
<v Speaker 3>See, if you've been in a relationship where a man understands these</v>

00:41:30.960 --> 00:41:34.080
<v Speaker 3>things, the man will know that he can tamp it down, and</v>

00:41:34.080 --> 00:41:35.920
<v Speaker 3>then the woman will be happy again.</v>

00:41:35.920 --> 00:41:39.520
<v Speaker 3>It's only when these things are permitted to run wild where the</v>

00:41:39.520 --> 00:41:42.400
<v Speaker 3>where a girl is permitted to continue to push and push and</v>

00:41:42.400 --> 00:41:46.320
<v Speaker 3>push and never get any pushback, that the true disaster in a</v>

00:41:46.320 --> 00:41:50.320
<v Speaker 3>relationship and ultimately at a civilizational scale occurs.</v>

00:41:50.320 --> 00:41:53.280
<v Speaker 3>If a man knows, because you know in the case of Christians,</v>

00:41:53.280 --> 00:41:54.720
<v Speaker 3>a pastor will tell him.</v>

00:41:54.720 --> 00:41:57.600
<v Speaker 3>Men who are not Christians have learned these things from places like</v>

00:41:57.600 --> 00:42:01.280
<v Speaker 3>the Manosphere where you're getting some advice that's good and some advice</v>

00:42:01.280 --> 00:42:02.800
<v Speaker 3>that's absolutely wicked.</v>

00:42:02.800 --> 00:42:06.720
<v Speaker 3>Our pastors are they're only dealing with the other half of the</v>

00:42:06.720 --> 00:42:10.160
<v Speaker 3>baby. they're dealing with the part that's not wicked, but they're ignoring</v>

00:42:10.160 --> 00:42:12.080
<v Speaker 3>the part that God has made clear.</v>

00:42:12.080 --> 00:42:15.280
<v Speaker 3>So these are matters of wisdom, not only condemnation.</v>

00:42:15.280 --> 00:42:19.680
<v Speaker 3>If pastors are telling their flocks, both men and women, look, women,</v>

00:42:19.680 --> 00:42:23.920
<v Speaker 3>you're going to inherently want to fight your husband or your father.</v>

00:42:23.920 --> 00:42:25.920
<v Speaker 3>And you need to be aware of it.</v>

00:42:25.920 --> 00:42:27.600
<v Speaker 3>You need to catch yourself.</v>

00:42:27.600 --> 00:42:30.400
<v Speaker 3>And husbands need to be aware of the fact that their wives</v>

00:42:30.400 --> 00:42:31.920
<v Speaker 3>are going to do this.</v>

00:42:31.920 --> 00:42:36.880
<v Speaker 3>And the solution for the husband is not to capitulate, not to</v>

00:42:36.880 --> 00:42:40.160
<v Speaker 3>say yes, dear, just you know, I mean, there are obviously times</v>

00:42:40.160 --> 00:42:43.760
<v Speaker 3>where you have to use sound judgment, but when a woman is</v>

00:42:43.760 --> 00:42:47.840
<v Speaker 3>being rebellious against God's order, a man needs to have the wisdom</v>

00:42:47.840 --> 00:42:52.000
<v Speaker 3>to understand the difference between she's doing something she shouldn't do and</v>

00:42:52.000 --> 00:42:55.120
<v Speaker 3>I'm just being lazy or I don't want to hear it, but</v>

00:42:55.120 --> 00:42:56.960
<v Speaker 3>there's n she's not doing anything wrong.</v>

00:42:56.960 --> 00:43:00.640
<v Speaker 3>Like it's not we're not putting everything on one side or the</v>

00:43:00.640 --> 00:43:04.240
<v Speaker 3>other. But the fact that this curse is absent from preaching and</v>

00:43:04.240 --> 00:43:09.920
<v Speaker 3>from discussion among most Christians is a crisis because the result, again,</v>

00:43:09.920 --> 00:43:13.040
<v Speaker 3>is writ large at a civilizational level.</v>

00:43:13.040 --> 00:43:18.400
<v Speaker 3>Because this test of woman against man has scaled up through feminism,</v>

00:43:18.400 --> 00:43:21.040
<v Speaker 3>through the franchise being given to women.</v>

00:43:21.040 --> 00:43:22.640
<v Speaker 3>It's gone far beyond the household.</v>

00:43:23.040 --> 00:43:28.240
<v Speaker 3>It's gone far beyond the wife to husband relationship, where now as</v>

00:43:28.240 --> 00:43:34.560
<v Speaker 3>voters, these tests are being applied civilizationally, and the disastrous results are</v>

00:43:34.800 --> 00:43:36.880
<v Speaker 3>exponentially more severe.</v>

00:43:36.880 --> 00:43:40.240
<v Speaker 3>It's not just one unhappy husband with a nagging wife.</v>

00:43:40.240 --> 00:43:45.200
<v Speaker 3>It's an entire civilization with women seeking things that they should not</v>

00:43:45.200 --> 00:43:48.560
<v Speaker 3>seek and men not saying, No, you can't do that.</v>

00:43:48.560 --> 00:43:53.120
<v Speaker 3>I am the head, we are the heads, you must obey us.</v>

00:43:53.120 --> 00:43:56.560
<v Speaker 3>Now it's it sounds offensive to our modern ears to even hear</v>

00:43:56.560 --> 00:43:59.520
<v Speaker 3>language like that, and the point of us talking about these things</v>

00:43:59.520 --> 00:44:02.720
<v Speaker 3>is to highlight that that's a godly way to talk.</v>

00:44:02.720 --> 00:44:04.480
<v Speaker 3>It's not automatically right.</v>

00:44:04.480 --> 00:44:07.840
<v Speaker 3>Like a man could say those things and be completely wrong, which</v>

00:44:07.840 --> 00:44:10.400
<v Speaker 3>is why there's the onus is on the man as to as</v>

00:44:10.400 --> 00:44:13.760
<v Speaker 3>the head to get these things right, to study the word of</v>

00:44:13.760 --> 00:44:18.160
<v Speaker 3>God, to be serious about his duties and to obey God and</v>

00:44:18.160 --> 00:44:21.040
<v Speaker 3>to take care of those under his dominion.</v>

00:44:21.600 --> 00:44:25.600
<v Speaker 3>as Sarah's Lord, and this there's another passage I think in first</v>

00:44:25.760 --> 00:44:29.600
<v Speaker 3>Peter we're going to get to towards the end, where she's specifically</v>

00:44:29.600 --> 00:44:32.160
<v Speaker 3>commended for calling Abraham her Lord.</v>

00:44:32.160 --> 00:44:35.760
<v Speaker 3>That is the view, the proper godly view that a woman should</v>

00:44:35.760 --> 00:44:37.600
<v Speaker 3>have to her husband.</v>

00:44:37.600 --> 00:44:42.400
<v Speaker 3>And if we don't return to that sort of relationship in families</v>

00:44:42.800 --> 00:44:46.400
<v Speaker 3>and then civilizationally where men are in charge of these things and</v>

00:44:46.400 --> 00:44:50.000
<v Speaker 3>women are not, things will continue to get worse.</v>

00:44:50.000 --> 00:44:53.520
<v Speaker 3>And the fact that there's a correlation that is in fact causative</v>

00:44:53.520 --> 00:44:57.520
<v Speaker 3>between the advent of these things that we called feminism and the</v>

00:44:57.520 --> 00:45:01.360
<v Speaker 3>wholesale destruction of Christendom, it's not coincidence.</v>

00:45:01.360 --> 00:45:04.880
<v Speaker 3>It is absolutely causal in relationship.</v>

00:45:05.360 --> 00:45:09.360
<v Speaker 2>To expand just a little bit on your comments with regard to</v>

00:45:09.360 --> 00:45:15.040
<v Speaker 2>the word desire in the curse on the woman, any Christian, when</v>

00:45:15.040 --> 00:45:19.600
<v Speaker 2>reading that section of the curse in Genesis three</v>

00:45:20.880 --> 00:45:25.280
<v Speaker 2>should call to mind Romans seven.</v>

00:45:25.280 --> 00:45:27.920
<v Speaker 2>So I find it to be a law that when I want</v>

00:45:27.920 --> 00:45:31.680
<v Speaker 2>to do right, evil lies close at hand, for I delight in</v>

00:45:31.680 --> 00:45:34.560
<v Speaker 2>the law of God and my inner being, but I see in</v>

00:45:34.560 --> 00:45:38.560
<v Speaker 2>my members another law waging war against the law of my mind,</v>

00:45:38.560 --> 00:45:41.600
<v Speaker 2>and making me captive to the law of sin that dwells in</v>

00:45:41.600 --> 00:45:43.360
<v Speaker 2>my members.</v>

00:45:43.360 --> 00:45:47.680
<v Speaker 2>And so that sin that dwells in your members of which Paul</v>

00:45:47.680 --> 00:45:52.240
<v Speaker 2>is speaking here in Romans, that's that desire of women that is</v>

00:45:52.240 --> 00:45:56.160
<v Speaker 2>contrary to their husbands, that desire to rule, to be the head,</v>

00:45:56.160 --> 00:45:57.920
<v Speaker 2>to usurp.</v>

00:45:57.920 --> 00:46:03.040
<v Speaker 2>That's That is not an inherent part of the nature of woman.</v>

00:46:03.040 --> 00:46:07.360
<v Speaker 2>That is a corruption of the nature of woman, because it is</v>

00:46:07.360 --> 00:46:12.640
<v Speaker 2>part of sin, it is that corruption of sin that is transmitted</v>

00:46:12.960 --> 00:46:17.680
<v Speaker 2>as original sin down through the generations.</v>

00:46:17.680 --> 00:46:20.240
<v Speaker 2>And so that is the law of sin.</v>

00:46:20.240 --> 00:46:22.560
<v Speaker 2>And we have to resist that as Christians.</v>

00:46:22.560 --> 00:46:26.480
<v Speaker 2>And so again, pastors need to cover this, need to be preaching</v>

00:46:26.480 --> 00:46:30.000
<v Speaker 2>this, because it's not just that men have to do their duty</v>

00:46:30.000 --> 00:46:33.920
<v Speaker 2>and rule over women, although yes, men have to do that, and</v>

00:46:33.920 --> 00:46:38.160
<v Speaker 2>most modern men are not doing it as they should, but women</v>

00:46:38.160 --> 00:46:42.800
<v Speaker 2>also have to struggle against this sin that is particular to the</v>

00:46:42.800 --> 00:46:47.760
<v Speaker 2>nature of woman, because a wife should submit to her husband.</v>

00:46:47.760 --> 00:46:52.880
<v Speaker 2>She shouldn't just submit to her husband because he rules over her.</v>

00:46:52.880 --> 00:46:56.320
<v Speaker 2>She should submit to her husband because that is her duty as</v>

00:46:56.320 --> 00:46:58.160
<v Speaker 2>his wife.</v>

00:46:58.160 --> 00:47:01.440
<v Speaker 2>And Christian women need to hear that from the pulpit.</v>

00:47:01.440 --> 00:47:04.880
<v Speaker 2>They need to hear that from pastors just as much as Christian</v>

00:47:05.440 --> 00:47:09.280
<v Speaker 2>men need to hear that they are to rule over their wives.</v>

00:47:09.280 --> 00:47:12.320
<v Speaker 2>Yes, you are to love your wives as Christ loved the church,</v>

00:47:12.320 --> 00:47:14.800
<v Speaker 2>but you are also to rule over them.</v>

00:47:14.800 --> 00:47:20.080
<v Speaker 2>That is the duty, that is the position that God gave you.</v>

00:47:20.080 --> 00:47:23.440
<v Speaker 2>And if you are not doing the things God gave you to</v>

00:47:23.440 --> 00:47:28.240
<v Speaker 2>do, you are not doing what Christians are supposed to do.</v>

00:47:28.240 --> 00:47:33.200
<v Speaker 2>Because yes, Christianity is a matter of faith in Christ.</v>

00:47:33.200 --> 00:47:35.760
<v Speaker 2>Yes, it is by grace through faith.</v>

00:47:35.760 --> 00:47:36.320
<v Speaker 2>We know that.</v>

00:47:36.320 --> 00:47:40.160
<v Speaker 2>That's not the point of the things we are addressing typically on</v>

00:47:40.160 --> 00:47:41.840
<v Speaker 2>this podcast.</v>

00:47:41.840 --> 00:47:47.920
<v Speaker 2>Because no one, at least no Protestant, disagrees with that.</v>

00:47:47.920 --> 00:47:51.760
<v Speaker 2>We are addressing the matters that have been neglected that so many</v>

00:47:51.760 --> 00:47:56.640
<v Speaker 2>do not touch on, the parts of Scripture that make men uncomfortable</v>

00:47:57.040 --> 00:47:59.520
<v Speaker 2>because they don't want to deal with it, because the modern world</v>

00:47:59.520 --> 00:48:04.720
<v Speaker 2>says these aren't the things that really matter anymore, it's just love.</v>

00:48:04.720 --> 00:48:07.120
<v Speaker 2>No, that's not the point here.</v>

00:48:07.120 --> 00:48:11.840
<v Speaker 2>There are works that are supposed to flow from a living faith.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>For husbands, that is right management of the household, that is dominion</v>

00:48:16.960 --> 00:48:21.200
<v Speaker 2>over the household, that is ruling over wife and children, that is</v>

00:48:21.200 --> 00:48:25.200
<v Speaker 2>loving your wife and children as Christ loves the church, but there</v>

00:48:25.200 --> 00:48:29.840
<v Speaker 2>are duties for the other members of the household as well.</v>

00:48:29.840 --> 00:48:34.480
<v Speaker 2>Slaves are to submit to their masters, are to serve their masters</v>

00:48:34.480 --> 00:48:39.200
<v Speaker 2>well, not just because they are afraid of punishment, but because as</v>

00:48:39.200 --> 00:48:41.680
<v Speaker 2>Christians you are supposed to do your duty.</v>

00:48:41.680 --> 00:48:45.280
<v Speaker 2>Children are supposed to submit to their parents, are to obey their</v>

00:48:45.280 --> 00:48:48.160
<v Speaker 2>parents the fourth commandment is very clear.</v>

00:48:48.160 --> 00:48:52.640
<v Speaker 2>Wives are to submit to their husbands in all things.</v>

00:48:52.640 --> 00:48:54.080
<v Speaker 2>That's a quote from Scripture.</v>

00:48:54.080 --> 00:48:58.240
<v Speaker 2>That is literally what Scripture says about wives submitting to their husbands.</v>

00:48:58.240 --> 00:49:02.240
<v Speaker 2>We'll get to that later and read The context is well, the</v>

00:49:02.240 --> 00:49:06.240
<v Speaker 2>context doesn't change it, that's what it says.</v>

00:49:06.240 --> 00:49:10.320
<v Speaker 2>The full counsel of God is what is supposed to be proclaimed,</v>

00:49:10.320 --> 00:49:14.320
<v Speaker 2>from pulpits and Bible studies, from anyone who wants to be or</v>

00:49:14.320 --> 00:49:17.520
<v Speaker 2>stands up to be, has been called to be, a teacher in</v>

00:49:17.520 --> 00:49:18.640
<v Speaker 2>the church.</v>

00:49:18.640 --> 00:49:22.720
<v Speaker 2>And we have far too few to day who are actually addressing</v>

00:49:22.720 --> 00:49:24.480
<v Speaker 2>what Scripture says.</v>

00:49:24.480 --> 00:49:29.520
<v Speaker 2>We have most men, who are pretending to be pastors, they will</v>

00:49:29.520 --> 00:49:33.200
<v Speaker 2>receive a pastor's judgment, the stricter judgment of a teacher, because they</v>

00:49:33.200 --> 00:49:36.800
<v Speaker 2>had the role, whether or not they fulfilled it.</v>

00:49:36.800 --> 00:49:40.480
<v Speaker 2>They're not proclaiming the full counsel of God, they are simply parroting</v>

00:49:40.480 --> 00:49:41.760
<v Speaker 2>the world.</v>

00:49:41.760 --> 00:49:47.520
<v Speaker 2>And the world is today almost diametrically opposed to the things of</v>

00:49:47.520 --> 00:49:52.640
<v Speaker 2>God, to what Scripture actually says about these issues And that is</v>

00:49:52.640 --> 00:49:54.880
<v Speaker 2>why we are going over these issues.</v>

00:49:54.880 --> 00:49:59.840
<v Speaker 2>We are going over them because it is vitally important for Christians</v>

00:49:59.840 --> 00:50:04.240
<v Speaker 2>to actually believe what God says.</v>

00:50:04.240 --> 00:50:08.080
<v Speaker 2>Not what the world says, not what the world said Christians should</v>

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<v Speaker 2>believe, but what God says is true, because God's word is eternally</v>

00:50:13.680 --> 00:50:18.160
<v Speaker 2>true. Everything contained in Scripture is true today.</v>

00:50:18.160 --> 00:50:18.640
<v Speaker 2>It was true</v>

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<v Speaker 2>when it was written.</v>

00:50:21.120 --> 00:50:23.200
<v Speaker 2>It was true before it was written.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>It has always been true because it is God's eternal will.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>The law is God's eternal will.</v>

00:50:29.040 --> 00:50:32.560
<v Speaker 2>It does not pass away because we now have the gospel, and</v>

00:50:32.560 --> 00:50:36.880
<v Speaker 2>we have the proto-evangelian here in Genesis.</v>

00:50:36.880 --> 00:50:41.120
<v Speaker 2>It didn't do away with the law, because the law again is</v>

00:50:41.120 --> 00:50:46.000
<v Speaker 2>God's eternal will, and it is vital for Christians to order their</v>

00:50:46.000 --> 00:50:48.960
<v Speaker 2>lives according to that will.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>In Ephesians five, the Holy Spirit through Paul writes, wives, submit to</v>

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<v Speaker 3>your husbands as to the Lord, for the husband is the head</v>

00:50:57.040 --> 00:51:00.240
<v Speaker 3>of the wife, even as Christ is the head of the church,</v>

00:51:00.240 --> 00:51:03.040
<v Speaker 3>his body, and is himself its Savior.</v>

00:51:03.040 --> 00:51:06.640
<v Speaker 3>Now as the church submits to Christ, so also wives should submit</v>

00:51:06.640 --> 00:51:10.000
<v Speaker 3>in everything to their husbands, which is what you just you just</v>

00:51:10.000 --> 00:51:14.560
<v Speaker 3>cited. In this one brief passage, it says twice, wife submit to</v>

00:51:14.560 --> 00:51:16.960
<v Speaker 3>your husbands, at the beginning and at the end.</v>

00:51:16.960 --> 00:51:18.800
<v Speaker 3>So Paul's not stuttering here.</v>

00:51:18.800 --> 00:51:22.320
<v Speaker 3>He's reiterating something that's very important.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>And I want to highlight this passage as a specific refutation of</v>

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<v Speaker 3>the heresy that's very common today among many pastors to discuss this</v>

00:51:31.200 --> 00:51:34.880
<v Speaker 3>concept of what they call mutual submission.</v>

00:51:34.880 --> 00:51:38.400
<v Speaker 3>They want you to think that, oh well, sure, wives have to</v>

00:51:38.400 --> 00:51:41.840
<v Speaker 3>submit to their husbands, but husbands have to submit to their wives</v>

00:51:42.000 --> 00:51:48.560
<v Speaker 3>too. If that were true doctrine, then necessarily by implication, they would</v>

00:51:48.640 --> 00:51:52.960
<v Speaker 3>they would be saying that Christ must submit to the church.</v>

00:51:52.960 --> 00:51:57.360
<v Speaker 3>When you read go read Ephesians two five yourself, you'll see in</v>

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<v Speaker 3>in the other passages we're gonna cite, in every one of 'em</v>

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<v Speaker 3>where it talks about wives submitting to their husbands as as husbands</v>

00:52:04.640 --> 00:52:09.120
<v Speaker 3>submit to Christ and as the church submits to Christ, the notion</v>

00:52:09.120 --> 00:52:13.120
<v Speaker 3>that that polarity could be reversed is heresy.</v>

00:52:13.120 --> 00:52:14.560
<v Speaker 3>It's absolutely false.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>There is no submission of Christ to the church.</v>

00:52:17.760 --> 00:52:23.200
<v Speaker 3>Now, Christ submitted himself on the cross on behalf of the church.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>And as I was listening to the slavery episode from last week,</v>

00:52:27.280 --> 00:52:30.400
<v Speaker 3>I realized that I said something I sorta misspoke a little bit</v>

00:52:30.560 --> 00:52:34.240
<v Speaker 3>when I was talking about masters having a duty to their slaves,</v>

00:52:34.240 --> 00:52:37.840
<v Speaker 3>I said something to the effect that s masters were slaves to</v>

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<v Speaker 3>their slaves.</v>

00:52:38.800 --> 00:52:41.520
<v Speaker 3>I I didn't really s state that clearly what I meant was</v>

00:52:41.520 --> 00:52:44.560
<v Speaker 3>that there's always a hierarchy, which is something that we cite in</v>

00:52:44.560 --> 00:52:46.000
<v Speaker 3>scripture God makes clear.</v>

00:52:46.000 --> 00:52:50.080
<v Speaker 3>Masters you two have a master in heaven, so don't mistreat your</v>

00:52:50.080 --> 00:52:54.640
<v Speaker 3>slaves. A master is a slave to God, just as the slave</v>

00:52:54.640 --> 00:52:57.600
<v Speaker 3>is a slave to his master.</v>

00:52:57.600 --> 00:53:03.760
<v Speaker 3>The master's slavery to God involves a duty to his own slaves.</v>

00:53:03.760 --> 00:53:08.400
<v Speaker 3>So it's not that there's mutual submission of master and slave, it's</v>

00:53:08.320 --> 00:53:13.120
<v Speaker 3>that the master himself, in obedience to God, in slavery to God,</v>

00:53:13.120 --> 00:53:15.680
<v Speaker 3>has a duty of care to those under him.</v>

00:53:15.680 --> 00:53:18.800
<v Speaker 3>Whether it's a master to a slave, whether it's a husband to</v>

00:53:18.800 --> 00:53:23.440
<v Speaker 3>a wife, whether it's parents to children, the duty flows from top</v>

00:53:23.440 --> 00:53:27.760
<v Speaker 3>to bottom, from the head through the intermediary to the recipient.</v>

00:53:27.760 --> 00:53:31.360
<v Speaker 3>And there's not an inversion there, but the duty is always flowing</v>

00:53:31.360 --> 00:53:35.120
<v Speaker 3>upward. Children have a duty to their parents, wives have a duty</v>

00:53:35.120 --> 00:53:38.800
<v Speaker 3>to their husbands, husbands have a duty to God, and so the</v>

00:53:38.800 --> 00:53:42.480
<v Speaker 3>care flows in one direction, the duty flows in the other.</v>

00:53:42.480 --> 00:53:42.800
<v Speaker 3>So</v>

00:53:43.680 --> 00:53:47.760
<v Speaker 3>the term mutual submission is patently offensive and it's a sign you're</v>

00:53:47.760 --> 00:53:50.720
<v Speaker 3>dealing with a weak, if not a false teacher.</v>

00:53:50.720 --> 00:53:53.280
<v Speaker 3>No Christian pastor should ever be talking that way.</v>

00:53:53.280 --> 00:53:56.960
<v Speaker 3>It's become very common precisely because everyone wants to flee from these</v>

00:53:56.960 --> 00:54:01.360
<v Speaker 3>passages. As we've talked about on a bunch of episodes, this is</v>

00:54:01.360 --> 00:54:04.640
<v Speaker 3>about Satan inverting Galatians 3.28.</v>

00:54:04.640 --> 00:54:09.280
<v Speaker 3>It's about there's no slave nor free, there's no male and female.</v>

00:54:09.280 --> 00:54:14.880
<v Speaker 3>Satan wants those categories to be eliminated, wants hierarchy to be eliminated.</v>

00:54:14.880 --> 00:54:18.480
<v Speaker 3>And so what happened with the attack on slavery and what's happening</v>

00:54:18.480 --> 00:54:22.880
<v Speaker 3>in feminism with the attack on what they call patriarchy is knocking</v>

00:54:22.880 --> 00:54:27.440
<v Speaker 3>out that middle support in the three in the tripartite system.</v>

00:54:27.440 --> 00:54:30.960
<v Speaker 3>So at the bottom you have the one in the greatest position</v>

00:54:30.960 --> 00:54:34.480
<v Speaker 3>of submission, but also the one to who the greatest amount of</v>

00:54:34.480 --> 00:54:35.680
<v Speaker 3>duty flows.</v>

00:54:35.680 --> 00:54:39.280
<v Speaker 3>In the middle you have the parent, or you have the husband,</v>

00:54:39.280 --> 00:54:44.080
<v Speaker 3>to whom a duty flows from God through him to his wife,</v>

00:54:44.080 --> 00:54:45.440
<v Speaker 3>to his children.</v>

00:54:45.440 --> 00:54:49.200
<v Speaker 3>He is has dominion over those beneath him in the middle, but</v>

00:54:49.200 --> 00:54:50.400
<v Speaker 3>he has a duty to them.</v>

00:54:50.640 --> 00:54:53.360
<v Speaker 3>So he has dominion over them and duty to them at the</v>

00:54:53.360 --> 00:54:54.160
<v Speaker 3>same time.</v>

00:54:54.160 --> 00:54:58.960
<v Speaker 3>The dominion flows down from him in his household, but the duty</v>

00:54:58.960 --> 00:55:01.200
<v Speaker 3>flows from God through him.</v>

00:55:01.200 --> 00:55:05.680
<v Speaker 3>And so the inversion in the destruction of Galatians 3.28 is about</v>

00:55:05.680 --> 00:55:07.120
<v Speaker 3>knocking out that middle.</v>

00:55:07.120 --> 00:55:10.560
<v Speaker 3>It's about saying there's we're going to smash the patriarchy, we're going</v>

00:55:10.560 --> 00:55:11.840
<v Speaker 3>to end all masters.</v>

00:55:11.840 --> 00:55:13.760
<v Speaker 3>You can't even use that word anymore.</v>

00:55:13.760 --> 00:55:17.600
<v Speaker 3>Reddit actually broke last week because they pushed a software update that</v>

00:55:17.600 --> 00:55:20.880
<v Speaker 3>eliminated master from some of their code and it broke everything.</v>

00:55:20.880 --> 00:55:24.880
<v Speaker 3>Like these people have become so obsessed with making sure that master</v>

00:55:24.880 --> 00:55:28.480
<v Speaker 3>can't even exist in the English language that they're willing to break</v>

00:55:28.480 --> 00:55:30.240
<v Speaker 3>their own systems to do it.</v>

00:55:30.240 --> 00:55:32.880
<v Speaker 3>Satan's doing that to civilization too.</v>

00:55:32.880 --> 00:55:36.800
<v Speaker 3>He's eliminating the possibility for us to think in terms of master</v>

00:55:36.800 --> 00:55:41.920
<v Speaker 3>and slave, of dominion and dominated, and to think that dominated means</v>

00:55:42.560 --> 00:55:47.680
<v Speaker 3>something terrible, when a child who's in dominion of a faithful father,</v>

00:55:47.680 --> 00:55:51.680
<v Speaker 3>or a wife who is in the dominion of a faithful husband,</v>

00:55:51.680 --> 00:55:55.600
<v Speaker 3>are being served by God through that man.</v>

00:55:55.600 --> 00:56:00.160
<v Speaker 3>And so smashing the patriarchy is essentially knocking God's hands out of</v>

00:56:00.160 --> 00:56:01.040
<v Speaker 3>the system.</v>

00:56:01.040 --> 00:56:03.440
<v Speaker 3>And it's it's no gods, no masters.</v>

00:56:03.440 --> 00:56:06.960
<v Speaker 3>The one follows right after the other for a reason.</v>

00:56:06.960 --> 00:56:08.800
<v Speaker 3>And so the idea that</v>

00:56:09.920 --> 00:56:14.160
<v Speaker 3>the man must submit to the woman is is really telling you</v>

00:56:14.160 --> 00:56:18.720
<v Speaker 3>that Christ must submit to the church, which is evil on its</v>

00:56:18.720 --> 00:56:20.800
<v Speaker 3>face, that never has and never will happen.</v>

00:56:20.800 --> 00:56:21.520
<v Speaker 3>It cannot happen.</v>

00:56:21.760 --> 00:56:24.640
<v Speaker 3>it's ontologically impossible because of headship.</v>

00:56:24.640 --> 00:56:27.840
<v Speaker 3>Because Christ is the head of the church, just as man is</v>

00:56:27.840 --> 00:56:31.040
<v Speaker 3>the head of woman, just as God is the head of us</v>

00:56:31.040 --> 00:56:33.520
<v Speaker 3>all. So you have the head and you have the body.</v>

00:56:33.520 --> 00:56:36.800
<v Speaker 3>The body can only act in accord with the will of the</v>

00:56:36.800 --> 00:56:40.400
<v Speaker 3>head, and it's the duty of the head to act faithfully.</v>

00:56:40.400 --> 00:56:44.720
<v Speaker 3>So when we advocate these things, we are advocating on behalf of</v>

00:56:44.720 --> 00:56:46.320
<v Speaker 3>faithful headship.</v>

00:56:46.320 --> 00:56:49.680
<v Speaker 3>Not just headship for its own sake, of ruling for the sake</v>

00:56:49.680 --> 00:56:52.000
<v Speaker 3>of ruling and doing whatever you want.</v>

00:56:52.000 --> 00:56:55.840
<v Speaker 3>Only a weak and depraved man would think about being in a</v>

00:56:55.840 --> 00:56:59.440
<v Speaker 3>position of authority and have his mind go immediately to all man</v>

00:56:59.760 --> 00:57:02.000
<v Speaker 3>I'm gonna get away with so much Mao.</v>

00:57:02.320 --> 00:57:05.200
<v Speaker 3>No man who's ever actually had authority would think that way.</v>

00:57:05.200 --> 00:57:08.480
<v Speaker 3>If you've been in a position of authority where you've been responsible</v>

00:57:08.480 --> 00:57:12.080
<v Speaker 3>for a lot of people underneath you, or responsible for some great</v>

00:57:12.080 --> 00:57:15.680
<v Speaker 3>duty, you understand the burden of command.</v>

00:57:15.680 --> 00:57:19.200
<v Speaker 3>You understand that the burden you have to those beneath you flows</v>

00:57:19.200 --> 00:57:22.880
<v Speaker 3>from the from the duty that has been given to you from</v>

00:57:22.880 --> 00:57:26.720
<v Speaker 3>above, wherever the above is, whether it's God giving you a vocation</v>

00:57:26.720 --> 00:57:31.120
<v Speaker 3>or it's a commander giving you an assignment, or it's just it's</v>

00:57:31.120 --> 00:57:33.680
<v Speaker 3>your boss giving you a task.</v>

00:57:33.680 --> 00:57:37.280
<v Speaker 3>Duty is neutral, as Corey said.</v>

00:57:37.280 --> 00:57:40.000
<v Speaker 3>It can well duty should always be good, you know, we think</v>

00:57:40.000 --> 00:57:44.480
<v Speaker 3>of that in positive terms, but how a man exercises dominion is</v>

00:57:44.480 --> 00:57:46.000
<v Speaker 3>a function of his character.</v>

00:57:46.000 --> 00:57:48.240
<v Speaker 3>And so if there's a man who tells you that any time</v>

00:57:48.240 --> 00:57:51.280
<v Speaker 3>you see dominion you should flee, that's a man you should be</v>

00:57:51.280 --> 00:57:54.400
<v Speaker 3>afraid of, because as a man who is weak and perverted in</v>

00:57:54.400 --> 00:57:57.280
<v Speaker 3>his soul, and he's telling you, if I ever get a chance</v>

00:57:57.280 --> 00:57:58.880
<v Speaker 3>to do anything, I'm gonna do it.</v>

00:57:59.200 --> 00:58:00.080
<v Speaker 3>that's terrifying.</v>

00:58:00.080 --> 00:58:01.520
<v Speaker 3>That is not Christian.</v>

00:58:01.520 --> 00:58:03.600
<v Speaker 3>We're talking about the opposite of that.</v>

00:58:03.600 --> 00:58:06.880
<v Speaker 3>When we talk about rule and dominion, we're talking about doing it</v>

00:58:06.880 --> 00:58:11.360
<v Speaker 3>in a gracious and merciful but firm way, in a way that</v>

00:58:11.360 --> 00:58:14.800
<v Speaker 3>does not relent to being pushed back on by those who are</v>

00:58:14.800 --> 00:58:18.080
<v Speaker 3>weaker, who don't understand, who wish to do evil.</v>

00:58:18.160 --> 00:58:21.200
<v Speaker 3>You start you begin with a gentle correction and then you step</v>

00:58:21.200 --> 00:58:22.800
<v Speaker 3>it up if you need to.</v>

00:58:22.800 --> 00:58:25.920
<v Speaker 3>Because if someone's going to persist in error, whether it's a wife</v>

00:58:25.920 --> 00:58:28.400
<v Speaker 3>or it's a civilization, at some point you have to put your</v>

00:58:28.400 --> 00:58:30.720
<v Speaker 3>foot down and say it's not going to happen anymore.</v>

00:58:30.720 --> 00:58:34.400
<v Speaker 3>Now obviously the way that manifests will depend on the situation and</v>

00:58:34.400 --> 00:58:37.440
<v Speaker 3>the scale, but at the end of the day, the only thing</v>

00:58:37.440 --> 00:58:42.480
<v Speaker 3>that will reverse the decline and destruction of Christendom is for faithful</v>

00:58:42.480 --> 00:58:46.800
<v Speaker 3>men to reassert ourselves in in the hierarchy.</v>

00:58:46.800 --> 00:58:48.800
<v Speaker 3>And some will be lower and some will be higher.</v>

00:58:48.800 --> 00:58:51.520
<v Speaker 3>And we have to get used to wherever that is and serve</v>

00:58:51.520 --> 00:58:53.120
<v Speaker 3>that position faithfully.</v>

00:58:53.120 --> 00:58:57.040
<v Speaker 3>Because all of that service in duty is ultimately to God.</v>

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I

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<v Speaker 2>was hoping that you would get to that point about headship, because</v>

00:59:00.000 --> 00:59:04.880
<v Speaker 2>that is a a key point here, and it's very obvious that</v>

00:59:04.880 --> 00:59:06.880
<v Speaker 2>it's important point.</v>

00:59:06.880 --> 00:59:10.400
<v Speaker 2>If you just look at how much it is hated by the</v>

00:59:10.400 --> 00:59:14.640
<v Speaker 2>enemy, by feminists and others.</v>

00:59:14.640 --> 00:59:19.920
<v Speaker 2>And to emphasize that point, we'll turn to first Corinthians eleven.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>Now I commend you because you remember me in everything and maintain</v>

00:59:23.440 --> 00:59:27.200
<v Speaker 2>the traditions even as I delivered them to you, but I want</v>

00:59:27.200 --> 00:59:30.880
<v Speaker 2>you to understand that the head of every man is Christ, and</v>

00:59:30.880 --> 00:59:33.920
<v Speaker 2>the head of a wife is her husband, and the head of</v>

00:59:33.920 --> 00:59:37.440
<v Speaker 2>Christ is God.</v>

00:59:37.440 --> 00:59:42.720
<v Speaker 2>And so the principle of headship is vitally important because</v>

00:59:43.760 --> 00:59:48.240
<v Speaker 2>there are those who can look at submission and duty and all</v>

00:59:48.400 --> 00:59:50.880
<v Speaker 2>these things and attempt to corrupt those terms.</v>

00:59:50.880 --> 00:59:55.360
<v Speaker 2>They have very clear meanings, they teach clearly if you know what</v>

00:59:55.360 --> 00:59:58.560
<v Speaker 2>they mean, but headship is</v>

00:59:59.600 --> 01:00:02.400
<v Speaker 2>the clearest of the terms, there is no way to look at</v>

01:00:02.400 --> 01:00:06.320
<v Speaker 2>the term headship and not understand what is meant.</v>

01:00:06.320 --> 01:00:08.400
<v Speaker 2>Just look at the word.</v>

01:00:08.400 --> 01:00:11.120
<v Speaker 2>The head is in control.</v>

01:00:11.120 --> 01:00:16.480
<v Speaker 2>Period. Your foot doesn't tell you what to do.</v>

01:00:16.480 --> 01:00:19.600
<v Speaker 2>That's not to say your your foot can't lodge a complaint.</v>

01:00:19.600 --> 01:00:21.280
<v Speaker 2>Your foot can certainly make a request.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>If you step on something sharp, you're going to know that immediately.</v>

01:00:25.680 --> 01:00:29.360
<v Speaker 2>But you as the head The head are in control of your</v>

01:00:29.360 --> 01:00:34.640
<v Speaker 2>body. And so the husband is in control of the wife, she</v>

01:00:34.640 --> 01:00:37.280
<v Speaker 2>is the body, he is the head.</v>

01:00:37.280 --> 01:00:39.920
<v Speaker 2>Christ is in control of the church.</v>

01:00:39.920 --> 01:00:43.120
<v Speaker 2>She is the body, he is the head.</v>

01:00:43.120 --> 01:00:44.880
<v Speaker 2>That is right authority.</v>

01:00:44.880 --> 01:00:47.440
<v Speaker 2>That is the right order of things.</v>

01:00:47.440 --> 01:00:50.400
<v Speaker 2>That is how hierarchy is supposed to work.</v>

01:00:50.400 --> 01:00:54.320
<v Speaker 2>And so headship is a vitally important term.</v>

01:00:54.880 --> 01:01:00.160
<v Speaker 2>Because people intuitively grasp what is meant by headship, because we all</v>

01:01:00.160 --> 01:01:04.000
<v Speaker 2>know that the head is in control, that the body does not,</v>

01:01:04.000 --> 01:01:07.040
<v Speaker 2>in fact, tell us what we have to do.</v>

01:01:07.040 --> 01:01:10.800
<v Speaker 2>Yes, the body can make demands, yes, we have duties to our</v>

01:01:10.800 --> 01:01:13.280
<v Speaker 2>body. We are supposed to take care of our body, it is</v>

01:01:13.280 --> 01:01:17.920
<v Speaker 2>a gift from God, and so you don't starve yourself or otherwise</v>

01:01:17.920 --> 01:01:20.160
<v Speaker 2>abuse your body.</v>

01:01:20.160 --> 01:01:21.920
<v Speaker 2>But ultimately, the head is</v>

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<v Speaker 2>in control, and there are other verses that speak of disciplining the</v>

01:01:26.640 --> 01:01:31.440
<v Speaker 2>body to keep it in line, which is a related matter, not</v>

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<v Speaker 2>directly here, so don't read too much into that.</v>

01:01:34.640 --> 01:01:38.240
<v Speaker 2>But it is a related issue of the head maintaining co right</v>

01:01:38.240 --> 01:01:40.800
<v Speaker 2>relationship to the body and control.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>I'd like to read the rest of the first that first Corinthians</v>

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<v Speaker 3>11 passage because it mirrors directly the points that we were making</v>

01:01:51.440 --> 01:01:54.640
<v Speaker 3>at the beginning from Genesis 2 and 3.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>Every man who prays or prophesies with his head covered dishonors his</v>

01:02:00.080 --> 01:02:04.080
<v Speaker 3>head, but every wife who prays or prophesies with her head uncovered</v>

01:02:04.240 --> 01:02:08.480
<v Speaker 3>dishonors her head, since it is the same as if her head</v>

01:02:08.480 --> 01:02:09.440
<v Speaker 3>were shaven.</v>

01:02:09.440 --> 01:02:12.240
<v Speaker 3>For if a wife will not cover her head, then she should</v>

01:02:12.240 --> 01:02:15.440
<v Speaker 3>cut her hair short, but since it is disgraceful for a wife</v>

01:02:15.440 --> 01:02:18.000
<v Speaker 3>to cut off her hair or to shave her head, let her</v>

01:02:18.000 --> 01:02:21.600
<v Speaker 3>cover her head, for a man ought not to cover his head,</v>

01:02:21.600 --> 01:02:25.360
<v Speaker 3>since he is the image and glory of God, but woman is</v>

01:02:25.360 --> 01:02:29.440
<v Speaker 3>the glory of man, for man was not made from woman, but</v>

01:02:29.440 --> 01:02:34.400
<v Speaker 3>woman from man, neither was man created for woman, but woman for</v>

01:02:34.400 --> 01:02:37.280
<v Speaker 3>man. That is why a wife ought to have a symbol of</v>

01:02:37.280 --> 01:02:40.640
<v Speaker 3>authority on her head because of the angels.</v>

01:02:40.640 --> 01:02:45.600
<v Speaker 3>And this is a passage that we mentioned in the uh Forgotten</v>

01:02:45.600 --> 01:02:46.800
<v Speaker 3>Doctrines episode early on.</v>

01:02:46.800 --> 01:02:49.440
<v Speaker 3>We did kind of grab bagger, we included head covering.</v>

01:02:49.680 --> 01:02:52.400
<v Speaker 3>I wanna begin at the end here where it just mentions because</v>

01:02:52.640 --> 01:02:56.320
<v Speaker 3>of the angels, because that's something that we don't really know what</v>

01:02:56.320 --> 01:02:56.960
<v Speaker 3>it means.</v>

01:02:56.960 --> 01:03:01.760
<v Speaker 3>There's some speculation, but I highlight it specifically to make the point,</v>

01:03:01.760 --> 01:03:03.760
<v Speaker 3>it doesn't matter what it means.</v>

01:03:03.760 --> 01:03:08.320
<v Speaker 3>Because when the Holy Spirit says because of the angels, that's not</v>

01:03:08.320 --> 01:03:12.480
<v Speaker 3>justifying the doctrine that a woman should be in submission with her</v>

01:03:12.480 --> 01:03:13.600
<v Speaker 3>head covered.</v>

01:03:13.600 --> 01:03:15.280
<v Speaker 3>He's providing an explanation</v>

01:03:16.480 --> 01:03:19.120
<v Speaker 3>of some other ontological fact.</v>

01:03:19.120 --> 01:03:21.760
<v Speaker 3>Even if we don't understand what it means, it doesn't change the</v>

01:03:21.760 --> 01:03:23.360
<v Speaker 3>or the command.</v>

01:03:23.360 --> 01:03:25.520
<v Speaker 3>And furthermore, what do we know about angels?</v>

01:03:25.520 --> 01:03:27.120
<v Speaker 3>Even if we don't know what this means.</v>

01:03:27.120 --> 01:03:29.360
<v Speaker 3>We know that angels are immortal beings.</v>

01:03:29.360 --> 01:03:30.560
<v Speaker 3>They're unchanging.</v>

01:03:30.560 --> 01:03:33.680
<v Speaker 3>Once they're created, they remain created for all time.</v>

01:03:33.680 --> 01:03:35.600
<v Speaker 3>Their nature does not change.</v>

01:03:35.600 --> 01:03:39.840
<v Speaker 3>So whatever was true two thousand years ago was true six thousand</v>

01:03:39.840 --> 01:03:41.600
<v Speaker 3>years ago and it's still true today.</v>

01:03:41.840 --> 01:03:44.640
<v Speaker 3>All we need to know about this passage, even if you want</v>

01:03:44.640 --> 01:03:46.880
<v Speaker 3>to try to use, oh well, I don't know what that means,</v>

01:03:46.880 --> 01:03:47.920
<v Speaker 3>so it can't count.</v>

01:03:47.920 --> 01:03:50.800
<v Speaker 3>No. What it means is that God has given a command and</v>

01:03:50.800 --> 01:03:52.720
<v Speaker 3>we don't get to obey it.</v>

01:03:52.720 --> 01:03:56.720
<v Speaker 3>And all the surrounding discussion where it talks about he is the</v>

01:03:56.720 --> 01:03:59.520
<v Speaker 3>image and glory of God, but woman is the glory of man.</v>

01:03:59.520 --> 01:04:02.880
<v Speaker 3>Woman was not made from man, but man was made from woman.</v>

01:04:02.880 --> 01:04:06.880
<v Speaker 3>Woman was not made man was not made for woman, but woman</v>

01:04:06.880 --> 01:04:08.720
<v Speaker 3>was made for man.</v>

01:04:09.040 --> 01:04:13.680
<v Speaker 3>These are direct mirrors of what is said in Genesis before before</v>

01:04:13.680 --> 01:04:14.720
<v Speaker 3>the fall.</v>

01:04:14.720 --> 01:04:18.880
<v Speaker 3>These are matters of God's eternal will.</v>

01:04:18.880 --> 01:04:22.400
<v Speaker 3>So a lot of times when you have people come along pushing</v>

01:04:22.640 --> 01:04:28.720
<v Speaker 3>the feminist agenda, the anti-patriarchal agenda, when these passages come up, they</v>

01:04:28.720 --> 01:04:30.640
<v Speaker 3>want to say, Oh, that was just Paul.</v>

01:04:30.640 --> 01:04:32.240
<v Speaker 3>That was about Corinth.</v>

01:04:32.240 --> 01:04:33.520
<v Speaker 3>That was situational.</v>

01:04:33.520 --> 01:04:34.560
<v Speaker 3>It was cultural.</v>

01:04:34.560 --> 01:04:35.760
<v Speaker 3>Doesn't apply to us.</v>

01:04:35.760 --> 01:04:37.040
<v Speaker 3>We're free in Christ now.</v>

01:04:37.040 --> 01:04:38.880
<v Speaker 3>Well, weren't they free in Christ?</v>

01:04:38.880 --> 01:04:42.160
<v Speaker 3>No. Paul is not talking about Corinth.</v>

01:04:42.160 --> 01:04:44.320
<v Speaker 3>He's not talking about two thousand years ago.</v>

01:04:44.320 --> 01:04:46.400
<v Speaker 3>He's talking about eternity.</v>

01:04:46.400 --> 01:04:50.640
<v Speaker 3>He's talking about male and female as God created them in the</v>

01:04:50.640 --> 01:04:52.400
<v Speaker 3>garden before the fall.</v>

01:04:52.400 --> 01:04:55.680
<v Speaker 3>Woman was in submission to man before the fall.</v>

01:04:55.680 --> 01:04:59.920
<v Speaker 3>As we discussed in the nature of the curse, woman's submission to</v>

01:04:59.920 --> 01:05:02.080
<v Speaker 3>man is not a product of the fall.</v>

01:05:02.080 --> 01:05:06.480
<v Speaker 3>The fact that woman bridles under that submission is the product of</v>

01:05:06.480 --> 01:05:07.200
<v Speaker 3>the fall.</v>

01:05:07.200 --> 01:05:09.600
<v Speaker 3>So the only thing that changed in the fall was not the</v>

01:05:09.600 --> 01:05:12.720
<v Speaker 3>submission, but the fact that it was no longer willing, that it</v>

01:05:12.720 --> 01:05:15.200
<v Speaker 3>then became unwilling submission.</v>

01:05:15.200 --> 01:05:18.480
<v Speaker 3>Which is somewhat i ironic because when you look at the very</v>

01:05:18.480 --> 01:05:23.280
<v Speaker 3>happiest relationships today between men and women, it's the ones where the</v>

01:05:23.280 --> 01:05:26.800
<v Speaker 3>man is dominant and the woman is submissive, where she is happily</v>

01:05:26.800 --> 01:05:30.400
<v Speaker 3>submissive. She's happy to have a head, to not have to worry</v>

01:05:30.400 --> 01:05:32.320
<v Speaker 3>about the things that he worries about.</v>

01:05:32.320 --> 01:05:36.240
<v Speaker 3>And she can completely and profoundly appreciate the things that he does</v>

01:05:36.320 --> 01:05:39.760
<v Speaker 3>and the things that he sacrificed for for her sake and for</v>

01:05:39.760 --> 01:05:42.240
<v Speaker 3>the sake of their children, so that she doesn't have to deal</v>

01:05:42.240 --> 01:05:42.880
<v Speaker 3>with it.</v>

01:05:42.880 --> 01:05:46.960
<v Speaker 3>What these feminists, whether they're men or women, what they're fundamentally doing</v>

01:05:47.120 --> 01:05:50.480
<v Speaker 3>by cutting men out of the picture and pushing women forward is</v>

01:05:50.480 --> 01:05:51.760
<v Speaker 3>destroying women.</v>

01:05:51.760 --> 01:05:54.880
<v Speaker 3>It's putting them in a position to do things God didn't equip</v>

01:05:54.880 --> 01:05:58.160
<v Speaker 3>them to do, that they're not permitted to do, that they shouldn't</v>

01:05:58.160 --> 01:05:58.800
<v Speaker 3>be doing.</v>

01:05:58.800 --> 01:06:02.240
<v Speaker 3>And then when they fail, everyone gets hurt.</v>

01:06:02.240 --> 01:06:05.680
<v Speaker 3>And it's one of the problems that we have when we're discussing</v>

01:06:05.680 --> 01:06:09.200
<v Speaker 3>these as sociological issues today, because one of the things that men</v>

01:06:09.200 --> 01:06:12.080
<v Speaker 3>want to complain about and say, Oh, well, these these women are</v>

01:06:12.080 --> 01:06:16.400
<v Speaker 3>doing things wrong, whether it's in the church or in civil society.</v>

01:06:16.400 --> 01:06:18.400
<v Speaker 3>Yeah Yes, they are doing things wrong.</v>

01:06:18.400 --> 01:06:20.000
<v Speaker 3>You know what we did wrong first?</v>

01:06:20.000 --> 01:06:22.720
<v Speaker 3>We put them in a position where they would be making incorrect</v>

01:06:22.720 --> 01:06:24.560
<v Speaker 3>decisions outside of their domain.</v>

01:06:24.560 --> 01:06:26.640
<v Speaker 3>And we'll get to a minute what the woman's domain is.</v>

01:06:26.640 --> 01:06:28.240
<v Speaker 3>She the woman has a domain.</v>

01:06:28.240 --> 01:06:30.880
<v Speaker 3>It's not that they're women have nothing to do.</v>

01:06:30.880 --> 01:06:33.200
<v Speaker 3>Women have a great deal to do.</v>

01:06:33.200 --> 01:06:36.320
<v Speaker 3>To be Adam's helper is profound.</v>

01:06:36.320 --> 01:06:40.160
<v Speaker 3>Creation wasn't finished until God gave Adam a helper.</v>

01:06:40.160 --> 01:06:46.000
<v Speaker 3>There's no version of human civilization without women.</v>

01:06:46.000 --> 01:06:49.680
<v Speaker 3>The problem is that women have been removed from their sphere where</v>

01:06:49.680 --> 01:06:53.840
<v Speaker 3>God ordained them to act, and we as men have rebelled against</v>

01:06:53.840 --> 01:06:56.480
<v Speaker 3>God and shoved them into other spheres where they don't belong, where</v>

01:06:56.480 --> 01:07:00.640
<v Speaker 3>they're not equipped, where they perform poorly, and we all suffer as</v>

01:07:00.640 --> 01:07:01.600
<v Speaker 3>a result.</v>

01:07:01.600 --> 01:07:06.080
<v Speaker 3>And so the only way to undo all of these myriad problems,</v>

01:07:06.080 --> 01:07:09.680
<v Speaker 3>all these layers of failures, is to undo them all at once.</v>

01:07:10.000 --> 01:07:13.760
<v Speaker 3>It's not enough just to end women's suffrage.</v>

01:07:13.760 --> 01:07:15.840
<v Speaker 3>It's we have to go back further than that.</v>

01:07:15.840 --> 01:07:17.840
<v Speaker 3>We have to go back to the point where we realize that</v>

01:07:17.840 --> 01:07:20.800
<v Speaker 3>women should not have been put in a position to be forced</v>

01:07:20.800 --> 01:07:22.640
<v Speaker 3>to make those decisions in the first place.</v>

01:07:22.640 --> 01:07:26.240
<v Speaker 3>We'll talk about this more next week, but if women's suffrage had</v>

01:07:26.240 --> 01:07:28.960
<v Speaker 3>been put to a vote for women at the time, it would</v>

01:07:28.960 --> 01:07:29.680
<v Speaker 3>have failed.</v>

01:07:29.680 --> 01:07:34.000
<v Speaker 3>It was men who put forward women to be given the franchise</v>

01:07:34.160 --> 01:07:37.280
<v Speaker 3>when the majority of women didn't want it, they knew better.</v>

01:07:37.280 --> 01:07:39.760
<v Speaker 3>They knew it was a raw deal, that it was outside of</v>

01:07:39.760 --> 01:07:42.480
<v Speaker 3>their sphere, that it was a rebellion against God, and it was</v>

01:07:42.480 --> 01:07:44.240
<v Speaker 3>going to make everything worse.</v>

01:07:44.240 --> 01:07:47.600
<v Speaker 3>But because they didn't have the vote, ironically, they then got the</v>

01:07:47.600 --> 01:07:49.760
<v Speaker 3>vote and we were off to the races.</v>

01:07:49.760 --> 01:07:52.160
<v Speaker 3>But all of those changes were not godly.</v>

01:07:52.160 --> 01:07:54.880
<v Speaker 3>But we can't just pinpoint one moment in time and say, Well,</v>

01:07:54.880 --> 01:07:57.680
<v Speaker 3>roll back to eighteen fifty or w roll back to at whatever</v>

01:07:57.680 --> 01:07:58.640
<v Speaker 3>particular date.</v>

01:07:58.640 --> 01:08:01.200
<v Speaker 3>What we need to roll back is the false doctrines that have</v>

01:08:01.200 --> 01:08:04.080
<v Speaker 3>permitted us to get to the point where we're making all of</v>

01:08:04.080 --> 01:08:07.360
<v Speaker 3>these errors and they're mutually reinforcing errors.</v>

01:08:07.360 --> 01:08:08.960
<v Speaker 3>It's not just one mistake.</v>

01:08:08.960 --> 01:08:15.040
<v Speaker 3>It's dozens and dozens of mistakes that are all interlocking, interconnected facets</v>

01:08:15.040 --> 01:08:15.680
<v Speaker 3>of this</v>

01:08:16.720 --> 01:08:17.920
<v Speaker 3>this diamond.</v>

01:08:18.160 --> 01:08:21.840
<v Speaker 3>there's a hardness to it that's you can't crack it because there's</v>

01:08:21.840 --> 01:08:25.680
<v Speaker 3>such strength in the way it fits together, but it doesn't fit</v>

01:08:25.680 --> 01:08:27.120
<v Speaker 3>together the way God wanted it to.</v>

01:08:27.120 --> 01:08:30.080
<v Speaker 3>It's the interlocking rebellion against God.</v>

01:08:30.080 --> 01:08:32.560
<v Speaker 3>And so what we have to do is just remove the entire</v>

01:08:32.560 --> 01:08:33.600
<v Speaker 3>thing at once.</v>

01:08:33.600 --> 01:08:37.360
<v Speaker 3>And so as we're discussing all of these myriad issues, it's for</v>

01:08:37.360 --> 01:08:38.080
<v Speaker 3>that reason.</v>

01:08:38.080 --> 01:08:41.600
<v Speaker 3>It's that there's not just one problem civilizationally to solve.</v>

01:08:41.600 --> 01:08:44.400
<v Speaker 3>It's all these problems that have to be solved together.</v>

01:08:44.400 --> 01:08:49.200
<v Speaker 3>And that begins with the headship of man, over creation, over other</v>

01:08:49.200 --> 01:08:51.600
<v Speaker 3>men, over women, over family.</v>

01:08:51.600 --> 01:08:55.440
<v Speaker 3>As long as there's not a man in charge of a household,</v>

01:08:55.440 --> 01:08:58.880
<v Speaker 3>as long as there's not a man in charge of a country,</v>

01:08:58.880 --> 01:09:03.200
<v Speaker 3>things will happen that are evil, guaranteed, because it's how God ordered</v>

01:09:03.200 --> 01:09:07.920
<v Speaker 3>things and any rebellion against that order is inherently inherently fraught with</v>

01:09:07.920 --> 01:09:10.960
<v Speaker 3>the wages of sin.</v>

01:09:11.040 --> 01:09:13.360
<v Speaker 3>So the next passage I'm going to look at is from 1</v>

01:09:13.520 --> 01:09:16.480
<v Speaker 3>Peter 3, the mirror some of the others, but this also the</v>

01:09:16.480 --> 01:09:19.280
<v Speaker 3>fact that Peter wrote this instead of Paul gives lie to the</v>

01:09:19.280 --> 01:09:21.280
<v Speaker 3>notion that oh well this was just that was that was Paul</v>

01:09:21.280 --> 01:09:22.480
<v Speaker 3>being a misogynist.</v>

01:09:22.480 --> 01:09:24.880
<v Speaker 3>Well, then Peter is a misogynist too.</v>

01:09:24.880 --> 01:09:28.160
<v Speaker 3>In saying either of those says that the Holy Spirit is misogynist,</v>

01:09:28.160 --> 01:09:31.840
<v Speaker 3>which by modern standards, yes, God is a misogynist, which is the</v>

01:09:31.840 --> 01:09:35.200
<v Speaker 3>reason that evil men see that as a sin, because in their</v>

01:09:35.200 --> 01:09:38.640
<v Speaker 3>service to Satan they must uphold their false religion.</v>

01:09:38.640 --> 01:09:44.080
<v Speaker 3>So here's what Peter says Likewives, wives, be in subjection to your</v>

01:09:44.080 --> 01:09:47.440
<v Speaker 3>own husbands, so that even if some do not obey the word,</v>

01:09:47.440 --> 01:09:50.560
<v Speaker 3>they may be one without a word by the conduct of their</v>

01:09:50.560 --> 01:09:54.400
<v Speaker 3>wives, when they see your respectful and pure conduct, do not let</v>

01:09:54.400 --> 01:09:57.280
<v Speaker 3>your adorning be external, the braiding of hair and the putting on</v>

01:09:57.600 --> 01:10:01.200
<v Speaker 3>of gold jewelry, or the clothing you wear, but let your adorning</v>

01:10:01.200 --> 01:10:04.400
<v Speaker 3>be the hidden person of the heart with the imperishable beauty of</v>

01:10:04.400 --> 01:10:09.040
<v Speaker 3>a gentle and quiet spirit, which in God's sight is very precious.</v>

01:10:09.040 --> 01:10:12.400
<v Speaker 3>For this is how the holy women who hoped in God used</v>

01:10:12.400 --> 01:10:16.880
<v Speaker 3>to adorn themselves, by submitting to their own husbands, as Sarah, who</v>

01:10:16.880 --> 01:10:21.680
<v Speaker 3>obeyed Abraham, calling him Lord, and you are her children if you</v>

01:10:21.680 --> 01:10:25.040
<v Speaker 3>do good and do not fear anything that is frightening.</v>

01:10:25.200 --> 01:10:29.200
<v Speaker 3>As I mentioned, God sees the woman who is submissive to her</v>

01:10:29.200 --> 01:10:31.600
<v Speaker 3>husband as very precious.</v>

01:10:31.600 --> 01:10:33.280
<v Speaker 3>That's substantial.</v>

01:10:33.280 --> 01:10:35.440
<v Speaker 3>That is a profound thing for God to say that when a</v>

01:10:35.440 --> 01:10:38.800
<v Speaker 3>woman is submissive to her husband, even in the case where the</v>

01:10:38.800 --> 01:10:42.800
<v Speaker 3>husband maybe isn't doing what he should be doing, which is one</v>

01:10:42.800 --> 01:10:47.760
<v Speaker 3>of the attacks of feminism on a husband and on patriarchy, is</v>

01:10:47.760 --> 01:10:50.240
<v Speaker 3>the notion, well, what if the husband isn't a good husband?</v>

01:10:50.560 --> 01:10:51.280
<v Speaker 3>What then?</v>

01:10:51.280 --> 01:10:54.080
<v Speaker 3>Well, the same as what if a slave master isn't a good</v>

01:10:54.080 --> 01:10:55.040
<v Speaker 3>slave master?</v>

01:10:55.040 --> 01:11:00.560
<v Speaker 3>Slaves should obey anyway, because they're ultimately serving their duty to God.</v>

01:11:00.560 --> 01:11:04.400
<v Speaker 3>And when that is done, God sees it as very precious.</v>

01:11:04.400 --> 01:11:08.640
<v Speaker 3>It's not simply obedience to him, it is to God God's glory</v>

01:11:08.800 --> 01:11:10.400
<v Speaker 3>that we obey him.</v>

01:11:10.400 --> 01:11:14.240
<v Speaker 3>This the obedience to God that we are pointing out, it's not</v>

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<v Speaker 3>for earning salvation, which is something we always say.</v>

01:11:16.960 --> 01:11:19.920
<v Speaker 3>There are those who actually think that that this podcast is all</v>

01:11:19.920 --> 01:11:22.320
<v Speaker 3>law and then we're trying to say if you don't do these</v>

01:11:22.320 --> 01:11:24.480
<v Speaker 3>things, you can't save yourself.</v>

01:11:24.880 --> 01:11:25.840
<v Speaker 3>It's just a lie.</v>

01:11:25.840 --> 01:11:27.280
<v Speaker 3>It's a flat out lie.</v>

01:11:27.280 --> 01:11:31.920
<v Speaker 3>We continuously point to God's sacrifice and his love for us.</v>

01:11:31.920 --> 01:11:34.720
<v Speaker 3>This is about the hand then of the Christian life.</v>

01:11:34.720 --> 01:11:37.200
<v Speaker 3>Now that we are Christians, how do we live?</v>

01:11:37.200 --> 01:11:40.160
<v Speaker 3>Knowing that nothing we can do can save ourselves.</v>

01:11:40.160 --> 01:11:44.560
<v Speaker 3>What do we then do in knowledge and recognition and through the</v>

01:11:44.560 --> 01:11:47.520
<v Speaker 3>gift of the Holy Spirit to sanctify our hearts?</v>

01:11:47.520 --> 01:11:49.040
<v Speaker 3>What do we do now?</v>

01:11:49.040 --> 01:11:50.560
<v Speaker 3>We obey God.</v>

01:11:50.560 --> 01:11:54.000
<v Speaker 3>Even when it stinks, even when a wife doesn't have a good</v>

01:11:54.000 --> 01:11:58.000
<v Speaker 3>husband, she should still obey him, because he is her head.</v>

01:11:58.000 --> 01:12:02.080
<v Speaker 3>Even if a master is evil, the slave should still obey him.</v>

01:12:02.080 --> 01:12:04.000
<v Speaker 3>That's the hard teaching of this.</v>

01:12:04.000 --> 01:12:06.880
<v Speaker 3>It's that things don't always work out, and that's the reason that</v>

01:12:06.880 --> 01:12:10.400
<v Speaker 3>so much ink is spilled in scripture where the Holy Spirit gives</v>

01:12:10.400 --> 01:12:13.440
<v Speaker 3>duties to masters and gives duties to husbands.</v>

01:12:13.440 --> 01:12:17.280
<v Speaker 3>We are not picking on slaves and we're not picking on wives</v>

01:12:17.280 --> 01:12:19.280
<v Speaker 3>to bully or to belittle.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>It's to point out that the so-called liberation of those who are</v>

01:12:23.440 --> 01:12:27.920
<v Speaker 3>in lower states is the very destruction of everything that's good and</v>

01:12:27.920 --> 01:12:33.360
<v Speaker 3>holy. It's not liberation to take someone away from their godly role</v>

01:12:33.360 --> 01:12:38.160
<v Speaker 3>and set them free is O freedom is some sort of nebulous</v>

01:12:38.160 --> 01:12:42.000
<v Speaker 3>thing. That's like being thrown into space.</v>

01:12:42.000 --> 01:12:45.920
<v Speaker 3>It's being launched into the vacuum of space where you have nothing.</v>

01:12:45.920 --> 01:12:48.720
<v Speaker 3>The only way that a slave can be rooted is through his</v>

01:12:48.720 --> 01:12:50.800
<v Speaker 3>master in duty to God.</v>

01:12:50.800 --> 01:12:52.400
<v Speaker 3>The same is true of a woman.</v>

01:12:52.400 --> 01:12:56.400
<v Speaker 3>As a as a as a daughter and as a wife, her</v>

01:12:56.400 --> 01:13:02.160
<v Speaker 3>submission to her husband is her anchor to God's subjugation of her</v>

01:13:02.320 --> 01:13:06.080
<v Speaker 3>in the best and most holy sense, and God's response to that</v>

01:13:06.160 --> 01:13:09.760
<v Speaker 3>when it's done faithfully is to view it as very precious.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>Before we turn to the last two sections of scripture for this</v>

01:13:15.280 --> 01:13:20.160
<v Speaker 2>episode, I want to reiterate my recommendation that you read Genesis three,</v>

01:13:20.160 --> 01:13:23.520
<v Speaker 2>but actually go ahead and read one through three.</v>

01:13:23.520 --> 01:13:24.160
<v Speaker 2>But when you read</v>

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<v Speaker 2>that, focus on the wording of what God says about woman and</v>

01:13:30.640 --> 01:13:33.120
<v Speaker 2>about man.</v>

01:13:33.120 --> 01:13:37.920
<v Speaker 2>Because we don't want anyone to take away the wrong understanding, the</v>

01:13:37.920 --> 01:13:40.480
<v Speaker 2>wrong view from this episode.</v>

01:13:40.480 --> 01:13:45.200
<v Speaker 2>Yes, wives are to submit to their husbands in all things, as</v>

01:13:45.200 --> 01:13:48.080
<v Speaker 2>scripture says.</v>

01:13:48.080 --> 01:13:53.120
<v Speaker 2>But it is vitally important to note the nature of woman, what</v>

01:13:53.120 --> 01:13:57.200
<v Speaker 2>woman is in relation to man, because</v>

01:13:58.160 --> 01:14:02.640
<v Speaker 2>Adam walked with God in the garden, Adam spoke with God, Adam</v>

01:14:02.640 --> 01:14:08.400
<v Speaker 2>knew God face to face, and God still said it is not</v>

01:14:08.400 --> 01:14:11.200
<v Speaker 2>good for man to be alone.</v>

01:14:11.200 --> 01:14:15.600
<v Speaker 2>That is the nature of the gift that is woman.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>It is the greatest gift, other than of course salvation, which at</v>

01:14:19.920 --> 01:14:24.080
<v Speaker 2>the time Adam did not need, but it is the greatest gift</v>

01:14:24.080 --> 01:14:26.400
<v Speaker 2>that God made for man.</v>

01:14:26.400 --> 01:14:31.840
<v Speaker 2>Woman was made for man as a gift by God.</v>

01:14:31.840 --> 01:14:33.040
<v Speaker 2>And again</v>

01:14:34.320 --> 01:14:40.000
<v Speaker 2>to state what Scripture says that is a gift from God</v>

01:14:41.040 --> 01:14:45.840
<v Speaker 2>to Adam who at the time walked with God and spoke to</v>

01:14:45.840 --> 01:14:52.800
<v Speaker 2>him face to face, it would be difficult to overstate the nature</v>

01:14:52.800 --> 01:14:56.400
<v Speaker 2>of the gift God gave to man here.</v>

01:14:56.400 --> 01:15:00.640
<v Speaker 2>Yes, there is corruption because of the fall, but the good nature</v>

01:15:00.640 --> 01:15:02.720
<v Speaker 2>is not erased by the fall.</v>

01:15:02.720 --> 01:15:05.360
<v Speaker 2>Original sin is not man's nature.</v>

01:15:05.360 --> 01:15:08.800
<v Speaker 2>Original sin is a corruption of man's nature.</v>

01:15:08.800 --> 01:15:11.680
<v Speaker 2>And so I just wanted to say that to emphasize</v>

01:15:13.280 --> 01:15:17.600
<v Speaker 2>what scripture actually says in Genesis and what we are and are</v>

01:15:17.600 --> 01:15:21.600
<v Speaker 2>not saying in this episode about woman and the relationship of man</v>

01:15:21.600 --> 01:15:22.080
<v Speaker 2>and woman</v>

01:15:25.920 --> 01:15:29.280
<v Speaker 3>It is fundamentally a question of pointing back to what is said</v>

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<v Speaker 3>in Genesis two.</v>

01:15:30.880 --> 01:15:33.200
<v Speaker 3>It is not good that a man should be alone, I will</v>

01:15:33.200 --> 01:15:34.960
<v Speaker 3>make a helper fit for him.</v>

01:15:34.880 --> 01:15:38.560
<v Speaker 3>And that is precisely what God did when he made woman.</v>

01:15:38.560 --> 01:15:41.680
<v Speaker 3>He made a helper fit for man.</v>

01:15:41.680 --> 01:15:46.800
<v Speaker 3>And what has been done societally with the false idol of equality,</v>

01:15:46.800 --> 01:15:51.680
<v Speaker 3>with the demon of feminism, is to eliminate the category of helper,</v>

01:15:51.680 --> 01:15:53.200
<v Speaker 3>to say, I'm not helping anyone.</v>

01:15:53.200 --> 01:15:54.320
<v Speaker 3>I'm a I'm a free woman.</v>

01:15:54.320 --> 01:15:54.800
<v Speaker 3>I'm strong.</v>

01:15:54.800 --> 01:15:55.760
<v Speaker 3>I'm independent.</v>

01:15:55.760 --> 01:15:56.400
<v Speaker 3>I have a job.</v>

01:15:56.400 --> 01:15:57.280
<v Speaker 3>I have income.</v>

01:15:57.280 --> 01:15:59.120
<v Speaker 3>I don't need to help anybody.</v>

01:15:59.120 --> 01:16:02.880
<v Speaker 3>And then suddenly she's a forty five year old wine aunt with</v>

01:16:02.960 --> 01:16:06.880
<v Speaker 3>you know two week vacations where she fornicates with half a dozen</v>

01:16:06.880 --> 01:16:11.760
<v Speaker 3>guys halfway around the world, and her medicine cabinet is antibiotics and</v>

01:16:11.760 --> 01:16:15.600
<v Speaker 3>antidepressants and birth control pills.</v>

01:16:15.600 --> 01:16:18.880
<v Speaker 3>And she realizes that the only thing she has left in</v>

01:16:19.840 --> 01:16:24.080
<v Speaker 3>yeah. And she realized that there's nothing in her future except for</v>

01:16:24.080 --> 01:16:30.160
<v Speaker 3>despair. And no amount of makeup and Botox and filters on Instagram</v>

01:16:30.160 --> 01:16:33.440
<v Speaker 3>are going to take away that despair because what she lost was</v>

01:16:33.440 --> 01:16:37.520
<v Speaker 3>being a helper fit for a man by not having a man,</v>

01:16:37.520 --> 01:16:41.440
<v Speaker 3>by not being a proper one flesh union with a man, she</v>

01:16:41.440 --> 01:16:42.480
<v Speaker 3>has no children.</v>

01:16:42.480 --> 01:16:47.200
<v Speaker 3>She has nothing except for memories of sin and disobedience to God,</v>

01:16:47.200 --> 01:16:50.080
<v Speaker 3>which is why you see such despair in that set.</v>

01:16:50.080 --> 01:16:52.400
<v Speaker 3>Again, the punishment for sin is built into it.</v>

01:16:52.960 --> 01:16:56.000
<v Speaker 3>If you try not to have kids, you'll succeed.</v>

01:16:56.000 --> 01:16:57.360
<v Speaker 3>You won't have kids.</v>

01:16:57.360 --> 01:16:58.400
<v Speaker 3>And then guess what?</v>

01:16:58.400 --> 01:17:01.120
<v Speaker 3>You're stuck with the punishment of for that forever.</v>

01:17:01.120 --> 01:17:04.480
<v Speaker 3>The punishment of not just disobeying God and not having kids is</v>

01:17:04.480 --> 01:17:05.840
<v Speaker 3>you don't have kids.</v>

01:17:05.840 --> 01:17:07.760
<v Speaker 3>There's not going to be anybody there to take care of you</v>

01:17:07.760 --> 01:17:08.640
<v Speaker 3>when you're old.</v>

01:17:08.640 --> 01:17:12.080
<v Speaker 3>There's no one for you to raise up as God commands you</v>

01:17:12.080 --> 01:17:14.240
<v Speaker 3>to. The punishment's built in.</v>

01:17:14.240 --> 01:17:16.960
<v Speaker 3>And when we talk about these things and say obey God, it's</v>

01:17:16.880 --> 01:17:18.240
<v Speaker 3>not to save yourselves.</v>

01:17:18.240 --> 01:17:19.040
<v Speaker 3>It's to</v>

01:17:20.480 --> 01:17:23.680
<v Speaker 3>have the life that God wishes for us to have, even in</v>

01:17:23.680 --> 01:17:27.440
<v Speaker 3>this fallen world, even with the fall, even with the corruption of</v>

01:17:27.440 --> 01:17:32.480
<v Speaker 3>sin and the devil prowling as a roaring lion, if we focus</v>

01:17:32.480 --> 01:17:36.720
<v Speaker 3>on scripture and we obey God, we can restore these gifts because</v>

01:17:36.720 --> 01:17:38.880
<v Speaker 3>they're they're built into creation.</v>

01:17:38.880 --> 01:17:42.560
<v Speaker 3>When you do the things that are obedience to God, the gifts</v>

01:17:42.560 --> 01:17:44.960
<v Speaker 3>come naturally, even to unbelievers.</v>

01:17:45.200 --> 01:17:46.080
<v Speaker 3>the unbeliever who</v>

01:17:47.440 --> 01:17:51.360
<v Speaker 3>behaves faithfully in his marriage is going to be blessed with lots</v>

01:17:51.360 --> 01:17:52.320
<v Speaker 3>of children.</v>

01:17:52.320 --> 01:17:54.800
<v Speaker 3>He's not going to go to heaven because of it, but the</v>

01:17:54.800 --> 01:17:59.360
<v Speaker 3>temporal blessing is there through the obedience to God's order, even absent</v>

01:17:59.360 --> 01:17:59.600
<v Speaker 3>knowledge</v>

01:18:00.640 --> 01:18:04.000
<v Speaker 3>that God, the true God, commanded it.</v>

01:18:04.000 --> 01:18:09.360
<v Speaker 3>And so the this is about restoring the helper relationship in all</v>

01:18:09.360 --> 01:18:11.200
<v Speaker 3>cases, not just in some cases.</v>

01:18:11.200 --> 01:18:12.480
<v Speaker 3>It's not optional.</v>

01:18:12.480 --> 01:18:14.720
<v Speaker 3>Uh the second and last passage we're gonna read here is from</v>

01:18:14.720 --> 01:18:17.920
<v Speaker 3>Titus two, which a week or two ago I I misreferred to</v>

01:18:17.920 --> 01:18:19.680
<v Speaker 3>as Titus five, which of course doesn't exist.</v>

01:18:20.000 --> 01:18:24.960
<v Speaker 2>Before we move to Titus, I just want to add two things</v>

01:18:25.040 --> 01:18:26.000
<v Speaker 2>real quick.</v>

01:18:26.000 --> 01:18:29.920
<v Speaker 2>I know we'll get into this more next week, but what we're</v>

01:18:29.920 --> 01:18:35.200
<v Speaker 2>speaking about here is teleology, about talos, the end of things.</v>

01:18:35.200 --> 01:18:40.560
<v Speaker 2>Not end in the sense of end versus beginning, but end in</v>

01:18:40.560 --> 01:18:45.440
<v Speaker 2>the sense of that toward which you should properly be aimed.</v>

01:18:45.440 --> 01:18:49.360
<v Speaker 2>Your purpose would be a a good way to summarize it.</v>

01:18:49.920 --> 01:18:56.160
<v Speaker 2>The purpose of woman is as helper fit for a man, for</v>

01:18:56.160 --> 01:18:58.800
<v Speaker 2>her husband.</v>

01:18:58.800 --> 01:19:02.640
<v Speaker 2>And that's why we are earnest about this and why we treat</v>

01:19:02.640 --> 01:19:04.800
<v Speaker 2>it as an urgent matter.</v>

01:19:04.800 --> 01:19:09.360
<v Speaker 2>As men, this is less urgent for us.</v>

01:19:09.360 --> 01:19:13.440
<v Speaker 2>There's earnestness there still with regard to men, but the urgency is</v>

01:19:13.440 --> 01:19:15.120
<v Speaker 2>not the same.</v>

01:19:15.120 --> 01:19:20.480
<v Speaker 2>Because for a woman there is a narrow window within which she</v>

01:19:20.480 --> 01:19:24.640
<v Speaker 2>can do these things that God has commanded her to do and</v>

01:19:24.640 --> 01:19:27.760
<v Speaker 2>be blessed for doing them.</v>

01:19:27.760 --> 01:19:32.080
<v Speaker 2>If a woman waits until she is fifty years old to marry,</v>

01:19:32.080 --> 01:19:34.880
<v Speaker 2>she will probably not be blessed with children.</v>

01:19:34.880 --> 01:19:37.680
<v Speaker 2>She's no longer within the window where she can have them.</v>

01:19:37.680 --> 01:19:40.480
<v Speaker 2>That is just a fact of biology.</v>

01:19:40.480 --> 01:19:44.800
<v Speaker 2>Unless you happen to be Sarah and God specifically blesses you to</v>

01:19:44.800 --> 01:19:49.840
<v Speaker 2>have a child in your old age, which is very unlikely.</v>

01:19:49.840 --> 01:19:52.960
<v Speaker 2>But that is the reason we treat this as such an urgent</v>

01:19:52.960 --> 01:19:59.120
<v Speaker 2>matter, because when teachers, pastors, and others lie to young women about</v>

01:19:59.120 --> 01:20:03.520
<v Speaker 2>these things, when their parents tell them no wait to have children</v>

01:20:03.520 --> 01:20:07.680
<v Speaker 2>until you get your master's degree, until you're established in your career,</v>

01:20:07.680 --> 01:20:09.200
<v Speaker 2>until X, Y, and Z</v>

01:20:11.040 --> 01:20:16.080
<v Speaker 2>You are stealing, they are stealing from these young women any chance</v>

01:20:16.320 --> 01:20:20.560
<v Speaker 2>of having the blessings that God would give them if they were</v>

01:20:20.560 --> 01:20:25.680
<v Speaker 2>faithful. Because that window is narrow.</v>

01:20:25.680 --> 01:20:29.360
<v Speaker 2>There are only so many years during which a woman can have</v>

01:20:29.360 --> 01:20:33.280
<v Speaker 2>children. You are not going to be young forever.</v>

01:20:33.280 --> 01:20:35.920
<v Speaker 2>That's true for men as well, and it is better if you</v>

01:20:35.920 --> 01:20:41.600
<v Speaker 2>have children relatively young, but for men thirties and forties is fine.</v>

01:20:41.600 --> 01:20:45.600
<v Speaker 2>For women it really needs to be in their twenties.</v>

01:20:45.600 --> 01:20:48.960
<v Speaker 2>And so that is why we treat this matter as again such</v>

01:20:48.960 --> 01:20:51.680
<v Speaker 2>an urgent matter.</v>

01:20:51.680 --> 01:20:54.320
<v Speaker 2>Because this is not something you can put off.</v>

01:20:54.320 --> 01:20:57.120
<v Speaker 2>This is not something where you get a do over.</v>

01:20:57.120 --> 01:21:01.200
<v Speaker 2>You do it right the first time, or you're done.</v>

01:21:01.200 --> 01:21:07.840
<v Speaker 2>Because the consequences, the temporal consequences, once you have them, that's it.</v>

01:21:07.840 --> 01:21:11.040
<v Speaker 2>You cannot go back, you cannot do it over, you cannot say,</v>

01:21:11.040 --> 01:21:14.560
<v Speaker 2>well, now that I have my master's degree and I'm established in</v>

01:21:14.560 --> 01:21:16.640
<v Speaker 2>my job, now I'll have children.</v>

01:21:16.640 --> 01:21:18.800
<v Speaker 2>It's too late.</v>

01:21:18.800 --> 01:21:21.520
<v Speaker 2>Biologically, you can no longer have that family.</v>

01:21:21.520 --> 01:21:25.200
<v Speaker 2>You can no longer reap the benefits of being faithful to God.</v>

01:21:25.680 --> 01:21:29.040
<v Speaker 2>You could be faithful to God still, in so far as you</v>

01:21:29.040 --> 01:21:32.560
<v Speaker 2>are able to do so at that stage in life, but the</v>

01:21:32.560 --> 01:21:36.960
<v Speaker 2>benefits will no longer be there, because the benefits attend to being</v>

01:21:36.960 --> 01:21:41.040
<v Speaker 2>faithful at the time when God tells you to be faithful, not</v>

01:21:41.040 --> 01:21:43.760
<v Speaker 2>when you feel like getting around to doing</v>

01:21:43.760 --> 01:21:46.720
it.

01:21:46.800 --> 01:21:51.120
<v Speaker 3>And of course referring to it as biological as simply the scientific</v>

01:21:51.120 --> 01:21:53.440
<v Speaker 3>explanation for God's created order.</v>

01:21:53.440 --> 01:21:55.200
<v Speaker 3>That's how God built women.</v>

01:21:55.280 --> 01:21:58.160
<v Speaker 3>Uh, we talked of in I think the first episode uh we</v>

01:21:58.160 --> 01:22:01.360
<v Speaker 3>were talking about DNA about the fact that a girl in the</v>

01:22:01.360 --> 01:22:04.800
<v Speaker 3>w in her mot Mother's womb has what will be all of</v>

01:22:04.800 --> 01:22:07.040
<v Speaker 3>the eggs she'll ever have in her entire life.</v>

01:22:07.040 --> 01:22:09.840
<v Speaker 3>And they begin to be to die and to be cast off.</v>

01:22:09.840 --> 01:22:13.200
<v Speaker 3>And by the time she reaches menopause, she's out.</v>

01:22:13.520 --> 01:22:15.120
<v Speaker 3>that is a fixed timer.</v>

01:22:15.120 --> 01:22:18.400
<v Speaker 3>It is like grains of sand passing through an hourglass.</v>

01:22:18.400 --> 01:22:22.480
<v Speaker 3>That is how God designed a woman differently than a man.</v>

01:22:22.480 --> 01:22:27.200
<v Speaker 3>Men can continue to procreate much later, decades later than women, and</v>

01:22:27.200 --> 01:22:29.120
<v Speaker 3>to have healthy offspring.</v>

01:22:29.120 --> 01:22:32.560
<v Speaker 3>It does fall off over time, but as you said, the window</v>

01:22:32.560 --> 01:22:35.360
<v Speaker 3>is much narrower for women and it's much earlier.</v>

01:22:35.360 --> 01:22:38.080
<v Speaker 3>And so every lie that is told in our churches and our</v>

01:22:38.080 --> 01:22:42.400
<v Speaker 3>schools and our society that pushes girls away from</v>

01:22:43.360 --> 01:22:47.120
<v Speaker 3>pairing off to with a good faithful man early and starting families</v>

01:22:47.360 --> 01:22:52.320
<v Speaker 3>is ultimately destructive to their own ends, which dovetails well with Titus</v>

01:22:52.480 --> 01:22:56.080
<v Speaker 3>too. It begins older women, which you know in this case would</v>

01:22:56.080 --> 01:22:58.160
<v Speaker 3>have basically amounted to menopause.</v>

01:22:58.160 --> 01:23:00.640
<v Speaker 3>Once you've stopped having children, once your children are out of the</v>

01:23:00.640 --> 01:23:02.240
<v Speaker 3>home, what is your duty?</v>

01:23:02.240 --> 01:23:06.160
<v Speaker 3>Older women likewise are to be reverent in behavior, not slanderers or</v>

01:23:06.160 --> 01:23:09.120
<v Speaker 3>slaves to much wine, their duty are to teach what is good,</v>

01:23:09.120 --> 01:23:12.800
<v Speaker 3>and so train the young woman to love their husbands and children,</v>

01:23:12.800 --> 01:23:17.760
<v Speaker 3>to be self controlled, pure, working at home, kind and submissive to</v>

01:23:17.760 --> 01:23:22.240
<v Speaker 3>their own husbands, that the word of God may not be reviled.</v>

01:23:22.080 --> 01:23:27.680
<v Speaker 3>That's a short passions, but there's a ton of theological depth there.</v>

01:23:27.680 --> 01:23:31.680
<v Speaker 3>One, it makes clear that older women do have a place for</v>

01:23:31.680 --> 01:23:33.040
<v Speaker 3>teaching in the church.</v>

01:23:33.040 --> 01:23:36.000
<v Speaker 3>It is teaching younger women these things.</v>

01:23:36.000 --> 01:23:39.440
<v Speaker 3>This is the only time the women are ever told in scripture</v>

01:23:39.440 --> 01:23:43.440
<v Speaker 3>that they have something to teach, apart from their own young children.</v>

01:23:43.440 --> 01:23:45.920
<v Speaker 3>If you are an older woman in the church, you should be</v>

01:23:45.920 --> 01:23:47.680
<v Speaker 3>teaching the younger women, what?</v>

01:23:48.000 --> 01:23:51.840
<v Speaker 3>To obey and love your husbands and your children, to be submissive</v>

01:23:51.840 --> 01:23:53.280
<v Speaker 3>to your husbands.</v>

01:23:53.280 --> 01:23:56.640
<v Speaker 3>And what do we see in the church when this is disobeyed?</v>

01:23:56.640 --> 01:24:00.560
<v Speaker 3>And this is radically despised, even in Lutheranism.</v>

01:24:00.800 --> 01:24:04.000
<v Speaker 3>we see far more faithfulness to this in some of the other</v>

01:24:04.000 --> 01:24:08.400
<v Speaker 3>adjacent Protestant denominations than we see among any Lutherans in this day.</v>

01:24:08.400 --> 01:24:10.560
<v Speaker 3>And the reason for that is that the Word of God is</v>

01:24:10.560 --> 01:24:12.480
<v Speaker 3>indeed reviled among us.</v>

01:24:12.480 --> 01:24:16.320
<v Speaker 3>This passage is despised by the LCMS today.</v>

01:24:16.320 --> 01:24:18.560
<v Speaker 3>You'll be excommunicated if you believe this.</v>

01:24:18.560 --> 01:24:21.840
<v Speaker 3>If you say that w the wives should be submissive to their</v>

01:24:21.840 --> 01:24:25.360
<v Speaker 3>husbands with no asterisk, that's misogyny.</v>

01:24:25.360 --> 01:24:27.040
<v Speaker 3>That's absolute misogyny.</v>

01:24:27.040 --> 01:24:31.840
<v Speaker 3>You will be declared damned by the LCMS Corporation.</v>

01:24:31.840 --> 01:24:32.160
<v Speaker 3>So</v>

01:24:33.200 --> 01:24:38.960
<v Speaker 3>these are not inconsequential matters not only for civilization, not only for</v>

01:24:38.960 --> 01:24:42.480
<v Speaker 3>order in the home, but in the church, they are matters of</v>

01:24:42.480 --> 01:24:46.800
<v Speaker 3>whether or not our church bodies are apostate or remain Christian.</v>

01:24:46.800 --> 01:24:50.480
<v Speaker 3>And they're church bodies that are absolutely embracing apostasy.</v>

01:24:50.480 --> 01:24:54.320
<v Speaker 3>Why? So that So that they can remain friends with MSNBC, so</v>

01:24:54.320 --> 01:24:58.320
<v Speaker 3>that they can remain friends with Rolling Stone and with Occupy D</v>

01:24:58.480 --> 01:25:03.120
<v Speaker 3>Democrats. Those are the people who today celebrate the actions of some</v>

01:25:03.120 --> 01:25:04.480
<v Speaker 3>of our church bodies.</v>

01:25:04.480 --> 01:25:06.640
<v Speaker 3>That's not the company you want to keep.</v>

01:25:06.640 --> 01:25:09.440
<v Speaker 3>Because if you keep that company in this life, you're going to</v>

01:25:09.440 --> 01:25:12.000
<v Speaker 3>be cum keeping that company in eternity.</v>

01:25:12.080 --> 01:25:15.920
<v Speaker 2>One of the best ways that a woman can achieve this status</v>

01:25:15.920 --> 01:25:19.360
<v Speaker 2>of being a respected older woman in the congregation and having And</v>

01:25:19.360 --> 01:25:23.920
<v Speaker 2>having younger women actually listen to her is simply being faithful in</v>

01:25:23.920 --> 01:25:26.560
<v Speaker 2>her own marriage, which of course is what she is supposed to</v>

01:25:26.560 --> 01:25:32.640
<v Speaker 2>train the younger women to be, because if you are a grandmother</v>

01:25:32.800 --> 01:25:34.640
<v Speaker 2>or a great grandmother.</v>

01:25:34.640 --> 01:25:39.440
<v Speaker 2>If you have a hundred grandchildren and great grandchildren, the younger women</v>

01:25:39.440 --> 01:25:42.800
<v Speaker 2>in your congregation are going to be more likely to listen to</v>

01:25:42.800 --> 01:25:47.040
<v Speaker 2>you than if you are a spinster with fifteen cats.</v>

01:25:47.040 --> 01:25:48.720
<v Speaker 2>That is simply the reality of it.</v>

01:25:48.720 --> 01:25:50.480
<v Speaker 2>And that's how it should be.</v>

01:25:50.480 --> 01:25:55.200
<v Speaker 2>Because if you are the latter, most likely the advice you have</v>

01:25:55.200 --> 01:25:57.120
<v Speaker 2>is simply do not be like me.</v>

01:25:57.120 --> 01:26:00.080
<v Speaker 2>That's the best advice you could offer to the younger women.</v>

01:26:00.080 --> 01:26:04.480
<v Speaker 2>If you are the grandmother, the great grandmother, who has been blessed</v>

01:26:04.480 --> 01:26:09.760
<v Speaker 2>by God for your faithfulness, and you have dozens of grandchildren, you</v>

01:26:09.760 --> 01:26:11.840
<v Speaker 2>can tell them Imitate me.</v>

01:26:12.400 --> 01:26:16.000
<v Speaker 2>I can tell you what to do in your lives because I</v>

01:26:16.000 --> 01:26:19.520
<v Speaker 2>have already done it, and God blessed me because I did it.</v>

01:26:19.520 --> 01:26:22.320
<v Speaker 2>I did what He told me to do, and look at the</v>

01:26:22.320 --> 01:26:23.920
<v Speaker 2>blessings I have.</v>

01:26:24.080 --> 01:26:29.680
<v Speaker 2>When you can give that concrete example of your life and show</v>

01:26:29.680 --> 01:26:33.360
<v Speaker 2>people, this is what God will do for you, because this is</v>

01:26:33.360 --> 01:26:34.560
<v Speaker 2>what it says in scripture.</v>

01:26:34.560 --> 01:26:36.640
<v Speaker 2>This is how He made creation.</v>

01:26:36.640 --> 01:26:40.160
<v Speaker 2>This is simply the natural consequences, not in the negative sense of</v>

01:26:40.160 --> 01:26:43.360
<v Speaker 2>the term, but just in the neutral, in this case positive sense</v>

01:26:43.360 --> 01:26:47.360
<v Speaker 2>of the term, if you are obedient, these are the consequences.</v>

01:26:47.360 --> 01:26:51.200
<v Speaker 2>If you are faithful in your marriage to your husband, God will</v>

01:26:51.200 --> 01:26:52.720
<v Speaker 2>give you children.</v>

01:26:52.720 --> 01:26:57.040
<v Speaker 2>If you are faithful in raising up those children, they will pursue</v>

01:26:57.040 --> 01:26:59.760
<v Speaker 2>the same sort of life that you had, and they will also</v>

01:26:59.760 --> 01:27:02.480
<v Speaker 2>be blessed in their marriages with children.</v>

01:27:02.480 --> 01:27:06.640
<v Speaker 2>If you have six children, and each one of those children has</v>

01:27:06.640 --> 01:27:11.600
<v Speaker 2>six children, you have thirty six grandchildren.</v>

01:27:11.600 --> 01:27:15.120
<v Speaker 2>This is exponential one generation to the next.</v>

01:27:15.120 --> 01:27:18.640
<v Speaker 2>You can, over not as many generations as you may think, if</v>

01:27:18.640 --> 01:27:24.640
<v Speaker 2>you're not particularly mathematically inclined, build your own nation if you are</v>

01:27:24.640 --> 01:27:29.200
<v Speaker 2>simply faithful to God, which, of course, in this case very clearly</v>

01:27:29.200 --> 01:27:32.720
<v Speaker 2>means not practicing birth control.</v>

01:27:32.720 --> 01:27:38.720
<v Speaker 2>But a faithful Christian woman, barring of course medical issues and such,</v>

01:27:38.720 --> 01:27:42.080
<v Speaker 2>there's always the caveat, even if we don't mention it.</v>

01:27:42.080 --> 01:27:45.840
<v Speaker 2>But barring those things, a faithful Christian woman should probably be a</v>

01:27:45.840 --> 01:27:49.760
<v Speaker 2>grandmother by about fifty.</v>

01:27:49.760 --> 01:27:52.880
<v Speaker 2>Many times over by sixty.</v>

01:27:52.880 --> 01:27:56.800
<v Speaker 2>That is the natural course of things when husbands and wives</v>

01:27:57.680 --> 01:28:02.400
<v Speaker 2>are faithful to God in their marriages, that is simply how it</v>

01:28:02.400 --> 01:28:04.960
<v Speaker 2>works because that is how God designed it.</v>

01:28:04.960 --> 01:28:08.880
<v Speaker 2>And so the older women, who have been faithful for decades in</v>

01:28:08.880 --> 01:28:12.880
<v Speaker 2>their marriages, in their lives, should be teaching the younger women to</v>

01:28:12.880 --> 01:28:14.400
<v Speaker 2>do the same.</v>

01:28:14.400 --> 01:28:17.040
<v Speaker 2>Because that is how we relay these things.</v>

01:28:17.040 --> 01:28:22.880
<v Speaker 2>Yes, we teach from the Scriptures, yes we attend the services on</v>

01:28:22.880 --> 01:28:24.800
<v Speaker 2>Sunday, etc.</v>

01:28:24.800 --> 01:28:29.920
<v Speaker 2>But it is also vitally important that one generation relay this information</v>

01:28:29.920 --> 01:28:34.400
<v Speaker 2>to the next with the concrete examples of look at these individuals</v>

01:28:34.400 --> 01:28:36.720
<v Speaker 2>who were faithful and how God blessed them.</v>

01:28:36.720 --> 01:28:40.160
<v Speaker 2>That is vitally important when training up children in the way they</v>

01:28:40.160 --> 01:28:43.040
<v Speaker 2>are supposed to go, so that when they are old they will</v>

01:28:43.040 --> 01:28:44.240
<v Speaker 2>not depart from it.</v>

01:28:44.800 --> 01:28:51.920
<v Speaker 3>Mathematically, it is entirely realistic for one couple to end up</v>

01:28:51.920 --> 01:28:56.240
<v Speaker 3>with a thousand living descendants in their lifetimes.</v>

01:28:56.240 --> 01:28:58.640
<v Speaker 3>If you have ten kids, they have ten kids, they have ten</v>

01:28:58.800 --> 01:29:02.480
<v Speaker 3>kids, it's entirely possible if you were blessed with long life for</v>

01:29:02.480 --> 01:29:04.160
<v Speaker 3>you to be alive to see all of them.</v>

01:29:04.160 --> 01:29:06.400
<v Speaker 3>And of course, some of the first are gonna be having, you</v>

01:29:06.400 --> 01:29:08.000
<v Speaker 3>know, another generation.</v>

01:29:08.000 --> 01:29:10.960
<v Speaker 3>So you might not see an entire generation, but you're gonna see</v>

01:29:10.960 --> 01:29:12.480
<v Speaker 3>multiple iterations.</v>

01:29:12.480 --> 01:29:17.040
<v Speaker 3>It it's literally possible, again, with God's blessing, uh both long life</v>

01:29:17.040 --> 01:29:20.960
<v Speaker 3>and fecundity of all of your descendants, for you to have a</v>

01:29:20.960 --> 01:29:24.640
<v Speaker 3>thousand descendants alive in your lifetime.</v>

01:29:24.640 --> 01:29:28.320
<v Speaker 3>The reason we don't see that anymore is that we are ashamed</v>

01:29:28.400 --> 01:29:31.600
<v Speaker 3>and we revile God's word and we despise him.</v>

01:29:31.600 --> 01:29:33.520
<v Speaker 3>That's the sole reason for it.</v>

01:29:33.520 --> 01:29:38.400
<v Speaker 3>As we see faithful husbands and wives returning to true godly living,</v>

01:29:38.400 --> 01:29:41.040
<v Speaker 3>we see family sizes like that again for the first time in</v>

01:29:41.040 --> 01:29:44.240
<v Speaker 3>generations. And it is a blessing.</v>

01:29:44.400 --> 01:29:46.480
<v Speaker 3>The last thing that we want to focus on is something that's</v>

01:29:46.480 --> 01:29:51.120
<v Speaker 3>referenced here within the description of the Titus II wim woman, which</v>

01:29:51.440 --> 01:29:55.520
<v Speaker 3>harkens back to the very beginning, the a helper fit for Adam.</v>

01:29:55.520 --> 01:30:00.240
<v Speaker 3>Wives are not merely vessels for producing children.</v>

01:30:00.240 --> 01:30:04.000
<v Speaker 3>That is one of their most important roles, but that is it</v>

01:30:04.000 --> 01:30:05.280
<v Speaker 3>is part of the role.</v>

01:30:05.280 --> 01:30:09.040
<v Speaker 3>Is as Corey mentioned, the curse of Eve touches on both of</v>

01:30:09.040 --> 01:30:15.200
<v Speaker 3>'em. It touches on her relationship with her husband and on childbearing.</v>

01:30:15.200 --> 01:30:17.680
<v Speaker 3>So we talked a lot about childbearing, but we're going to end</v>

01:30:17.680 --> 01:30:19.920
<v Speaker 3>with what does the helper part mean?</v>

01:30:19.920 --> 01:30:23.120
<v Speaker 3>Because in the middle of this, in Titus 2, it says they're</v>

01:30:23.040 --> 01:30:26.960
<v Speaker 3>to teach the younger women to work at home.</v>

01:30:26.960 --> 01:30:30.560
<v Speaker 3>Now, there's it's been discussion in the past on this podcast and</v>

01:30:30.560 --> 01:30:35.600
<v Speaker 3>online and elsewhere about where is it permissible for women to work.</v>

01:30:35.600 --> 01:30:38.480
<v Speaker 3>And so we're going to end in Proverbs 31.</v>

01:30:38.480 --> 01:30:41.120
<v Speaker 3>You probably heard of the Proverbs 31 woman before.</v>

01:30:41.120 --> 01:30:45.680
<v Speaker 3>It's It's a verse that's used very often as a proto-feminist verse</v>

01:30:45.760 --> 01:30:48.800
<v Speaker 3>to say, well, go girl, here's all the stuff you can do.</v>

01:30:48.800 --> 01:30:52.000
<v Speaker 3>The reason that we've presented all of this and save that for</v>

01:30:52.000 --> 01:30:56.880
<v Speaker 3>last is to frame the nature of the work that the Proverbs</v>

01:30:57.040 --> 01:31:01.280
<v Speaker 3>thirty one woman does in view of her role as a helper</v>

01:31:01.280 --> 01:31:04.320
<v Speaker 3>for her husband, and in view of her role, as Titus II</v>

01:31:04.480 --> 01:31:06.720
<v Speaker 3>says, of working at home</v>

01:31:08.000 --> 01:31:08.240
And

01:31:08.240 --> 01:31:13.840
<v Speaker 2>so reading from Proverbs thirty one An excellent wife who can find</v>

01:31:14.080 --> 01:31:17.760
<v Speaker 2>she is far more precious than jewels, the heart of her husband</v>

01:31:17.760 --> 01:31:21.040
<v Speaker 2>trusts in her, and he will have no lack of gain.</v>

01:31:21.120 --> 01:31:24.640
<v Speaker 2>She does him good and not harm all the days of her</v>

01:31:24.640 --> 01:31:29.200
<v Speaker 2>life. She seeks wool and flax, and works with willing hands.</v>

01:31:29.200 --> 01:31:32.320
<v Speaker 2>She is like the ships of the merchant, she brings her food</v>

01:31:32.320 --> 01:31:33.360
<v Speaker 2>from afar.</v>

01:31:33.360 --> 01:31:36.960
<v Speaker 2>She rises while it is yet night, and provides food for her</v>

01:31:36.960 --> 01:31:39.920
<v Speaker 2>household, and portions for her maidens.</v>

01:31:39.920 --> 01:31:42.080
<v Speaker 2>She considers a field and buys it.</v>

01:31:42.080 --> 01:31:44.800
<v Speaker 2>With the fruit of her hands she plants a vineyard.</v>

01:31:44.800 --> 01:31:48.800
<v Speaker 2>She dresses herself with strength and makes her arms strong.</v>

01:31:48.800 --> 01:31:51.680
<v Speaker 2>She perceives that her merchandise is profitable.</v>

01:31:51.680 --> 01:31:54.000
<v Speaker 2>Her lamp does not go out at night.</v>

01:31:54.000 --> 01:31:57.360
<v Speaker 2>She puts her hands to the distaff, and her hands hold the</v>

01:31:57.360 --> 01:32:01.440
<v Speaker 2>spindle. She opens her hands to the poor, and reaches out her</v>

01:32:01.440 --> 01:32:02.800
<v Speaker 2>hands to the needy.</v>

01:32:02.800 --> 01:32:06.080
<v Speaker 2>She is not afraid of snow for her household, for all her</v>

01:32:06.080 --> 01:32:08.240
<v Speaker 2>household are clothed in scarlet.</v>

01:32:08.240 --> 01:32:12.320
<v Speaker 2>She makes bed coverings for herself, her clothing is fine linen and</v>

01:32:12.320 --> 01:32:16.240
<v Speaker 2>purple. Her husband is known in the gates, when he sits among</v>

01:32:16.240 --> 01:32:17.920
<v Speaker 2>the elders of the land.</v>

01:32:17.920 --> 01:32:22.000
<v Speaker 2>She makes linen garments and sells them, she delivers sashes to the</v>

01:32:22.000 --> 01:32:26.240
<v Speaker 2>merchant, strength and dignity are her clothing, and she laughs at the</v>

01:32:26.240 --> 01:32:27.280
<v Speaker 2>time to come.</v>

01:32:27.280 --> 01:32:30.880
<v Speaker 2>She opens her mouth with wisdom, and the teaching of kindness is</v>

01:32:30.880 --> 01:32:31.920
<v Speaker 2>on her tongue.</v>

01:32:31.920 --> 01:32:34.960
<v Speaker 2>She looks well to the ways of her household, and does not</v>

01:32:34.960 --> 01:32:36.720
<v Speaker 2>eat the bread of idleness.</v>

01:32:36.720 --> 01:32:40.720
<v Speaker 2>Her children rise up and call her blessed, her husband also, and</v>

01:32:40.720 --> 01:32:42.000
<v Speaker 2>he praises her.</v>

01:32:42.000 --> 01:32:46.320
<v Speaker 2>Many women have done excellently, but you surpass them all.</v>

01:32:46.320 --> 01:32:50.480
<v Speaker 2>Charm is deceitful, and beauty is vain, but a woman who fears</v>

01:32:50.480 --> 01:32:52.480
<v Speaker 2>the Lord is to be praised.</v>

01:32:52.480 --> 01:32:55.520
<v Speaker 2>Give her of the fruit of her hands, and let her works</v>

01:32:55.520 --> 01:32:57.200
<v Speaker 2>praise her in the gates.</v>

01:32:57.680 --> 01:33:01.840
<v Speaker 3>I think that when you view Proverbs thirty-one in light of everything</v>

01:33:01.840 --> 01:33:05.280
<v Speaker 3>else that have we've cited here, which of course you must because</v>

01:33:05.280 --> 01:33:06.320
<v Speaker 3>scripture is one.</v>

01:33:06.320 --> 01:33:10.000
<v Speaker 3>There's no there's no setting these passages in opposition.</v>

01:33:10.000 --> 01:33:14.160
<v Speaker 3>This is a beautiful exposition of the nature of a woman, of</v>

01:33:14.160 --> 01:33:17.040
<v Speaker 3>a wife as a helper to a man.</v>

01:33:17.040 --> 01:33:20.720
<v Speaker 3>And I think if you re the nature of the tasks that</v>

01:33:20.720 --> 01:33:24.400
<v Speaker 3>she's performing here, they're all household tasks.</v>

01:33:24.400 --> 01:33:27.440
<v Speaker 3>Now it doesn't literally mean that she stays inside all day.</v>

01:33:27.440 --> 01:33:33.280
<v Speaker 3>We're that's not that's not the nature of the relationship between husband</v>

01:33:33.280 --> 01:33:37.280
<v Speaker 3>and wife that we think is part of the Christian religion.</v>

01:33:37.280 --> 01:33:40.320
<v Speaker 3>The point is that what she does is in service to her</v>

01:33:40.320 --> 01:33:41.600
<v Speaker 3>husband as a helper.</v>

01:33:41.600 --> 01:33:45.200
<v Speaker 3>And that includes producing wealth in some cases, if it is a</v>

01:33:45.200 --> 01:33:48.560
<v Speaker 3>part of his household, and there are things that she can do</v>

01:33:48.560 --> 01:33:51.920
<v Speaker 3>that builds up the household.</v>

01:33:51.920 --> 01:33:56.400
<v Speaker 3>But what is absent from this and is not simply temporally bound</v>

01:33:56.480 --> 01:34:00.240
<v Speaker 3>is that she's not going off far away and doing something totally</v>

01:34:00.240 --> 01:34:02.800
<v Speaker 3>unrelated and bringing home the bacon.</v>

01:34:02.800 --> 01:34:04.240
<v Speaker 3>That's not the purpose of this.</v>

01:34:04.240 --> 01:34:07.360
<v Speaker 3>Even when it talks about her producing things and taking them to</v>

01:34:07.360 --> 01:34:10.800
<v Speaker 3>the markets, she's selling them to vendors to sell things.</v>

01:34:10.800 --> 01:34:13.520
<v Speaker 3>Now it's a small point, but I mean I I would think</v>

01:34:13.520 --> 01:34:16.640
<v Speaker 3>that today this would be akin to to a wife having an</v>

01:34:16.640 --> 01:34:20.880
<v Speaker 3>Etsy storefront and producing things and then selling them.</v>

01:34:20.880 --> 01:34:23.280
<v Speaker 3>You know, if it's something that's good, if it's something that's not,</v>

01:34:23.280 --> 01:34:26.640
<v Speaker 3>you know, shameful or pornographic, that's great.</v>

01:34:26.640 --> 01:34:31.040
<v Speaker 3>And there there are absolutely ways that women can do more than</v>

01:34:31.200 --> 01:34:35.600
<v Speaker 3>cook and clean and make babies and raise them that are also</v>

01:34:35.920 --> 01:34:40.560
<v Speaker 3>godly. And that's one of the caricatures that's set up in opposition</v>

01:34:40.560 --> 01:34:46.000
<v Speaker 3>by the religion of feminism against what Christianity says about the womanly</v>

01:34:46.000 --> 01:34:50.720
<v Speaker 3>role. A wife's role isn't just one thing, it's multifaceted.</v>

01:34:50.720 --> 01:34:53.040
<v Speaker 3>And this is the this is how Proverbs ends.</v>

01:34:53.040 --> 01:34:55.360
<v Speaker 3>And it's one of the few places in Proverbs where it goes</v>

01:34:55.360 --> 01:35:00.000
<v Speaker 3>on and on about these a single topic at length.</v>

01:35:00.000 --> 01:35:03.760
<v Speaker 3>And because this is wisdom being passed from a father to son</v>

01:35:03.840 --> 01:35:06.800
<v Speaker 3>and of course from God to all of us, we should take</v>

01:35:06.800 --> 01:35:08.800
<v Speaker 3>particular care to pay attention.</v>

01:35:08.800 --> 01:35:11.440
<v Speaker 3>If you have a wife who is capable of these things, you</v>

01:35:11.440 --> 01:35:14.640
<v Speaker 3>know, who's who's physically capable of doing things around the house?</v>

01:35:14.640 --> 01:35:17.040
<v Speaker 3>Like if if your wife and your wife is weaker than you,</v>

01:35:17.040 --> 01:35:20.560
<v Speaker 3>obviously, because you're a man, you're you know you're much stronger than</v>

01:35:20.560 --> 01:35:25.280
<v Speaker 3>her, but that doesn't mean that her own weakness is necessarily something</v>

01:35:25.280 --> 01:35:26.080
<v Speaker 3>to be celebrated.</v>

01:35:26.080 --> 01:35:28.560
<v Speaker 3>She should be as strong as she can be, as strong as</v>

01:35:28.560 --> 01:35:29.680
<v Speaker 3>she needs to be.</v>

01:35:29.680 --> 01:35:32.880
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it's not saying your wife needs to be a crossfitter.</v>

01:35:32.880 --> 01:35:37.200
<v Speaker 3>I think that produces some some questionable results sometimes.</v>

01:35:37.200 --> 01:35:40.480
<v Speaker 3>But the point is that these things are godly and they're not</v>

01:35:40.480 --> 01:35:44.560
<v Speaker 3>in opposition to the nature of a woman being a helper, and</v>

01:35:44.560 --> 01:35:48.560
<v Speaker 3>they're not in opposition to Titus making clear the the epistle to</v>

01:35:48.560 --> 01:35:51.920
<v Speaker 3>Titus that these are things that happen within the home.</v>

01:35:51.920 --> 01:35:55.120
<v Speaker 3>All of this fits together to say that there is much that</v>

01:35:55.120 --> 01:36:00.240
<v Speaker 3>a woman can do that doesn't require any of the women's liberation</v>

01:36:00.400 --> 01:36:03.280
<v Speaker 3>that we've been sold in the last couple hundred years.</v>

01:36:03.280 --> 01:36:05.840
<v Speaker 3>None of that is required for the godly life.</v>

01:36:05.840 --> 01:36:09.200
<v Speaker 3>All of these things are obedience to God, and they're a blessing</v>

01:36:09.200 --> 01:36:10.080
<v Speaker 3>to the household.</v>

01:36:10.080 --> 01:36:12.080
<v Speaker 3>They're obviously a blessing to the husband.</v>

01:36:12.720 --> 01:36:15.120
<v Speaker 3>In Proverbs 31, the husband's proud.</v>

01:36:15.120 --> 01:36:17.280
<v Speaker 3>He's grateful to have such a wonderful wife.</v>

01:36:17.280 --> 01:36:20.000
<v Speaker 3>Who wouldn't be proud and grateful to have a wife like that?</v>

01:36:20.000 --> 01:36:23.760
<v Speaker 3>The question is, do you need the lies of feminism to come</v>

01:36:23.760 --> 01:36:26.320
<v Speaker 3>along and say, oh, well, this is a proof text to say</v>

01:36:26.480 --> 01:36:28.160
<v Speaker 3>you can do so much more?</v>

01:36:28.160 --> 01:36:30.960
<v Speaker 3>Think about how much richer you could be if you had even</v>

01:36:30.960 --> 01:36:34.560
<v Speaker 3>more wealth, if you did even more outside the home, if you</v>

01:36:34.560 --> 01:36:39.600
<v Speaker 3>left the household and pursued greater wealth, because that is when the</v>

01:36:39.600 --> 01:36:42.320
<v Speaker 3>she has ceased to be a helper and is seeking to be</v>

01:36:42.320 --> 01:36:43.280
<v Speaker 3>an equal.</v>

01:36:43.280 --> 01:36:45.600
<v Speaker 3>And that is when these things get upended.</v>

01:36:45.600 --> 01:36:47.680
<v Speaker 3>And it happens by a matter of degrees.</v>

01:36:47.680 --> 01:36:49.600
<v Speaker 3>It's not an on off switch.</v>

01:36:50.000 --> 01:36:53.360
<v Speaker 3>there are small degrees by which something may be permissible that by</v>

01:36:53.360 --> 01:36:56.000
<v Speaker 3>a large degree suddenly becomes a usurpation.</v>

01:36:56.000 --> 01:36:59.600
<v Speaker 3>And it's a matter of godly wisdom for a faithful husband to</v>

01:36:59.600 --> 01:37:03.360
<v Speaker 3>know the difference, to be able to say this far and no</v>

01:37:03.360 --> 01:37:05.440
<v Speaker 3>further and everyone wins.</v>

01:37:05.440 --> 01:37:08.560
<v Speaker 3>And so as we talk about these things, it is ultimately about</v>

01:37:08.560 --> 01:37:11.840
<v Speaker 3>upholding everything that God says, but not shying away from this.</v>

01:37:11.840 --> 01:37:14.240
<v Speaker 3>Part of why we say this for last again is that this</v>

01:37:14.240 --> 01:37:17.360
<v Speaker 3>is sort of seen by by some who are trying to pretend</v>

01:37:17.360 --> 01:37:20.880
<v Speaker 3>that that they're trad and conservative, that it it's actually an anthem</v>

01:37:21.040 --> 01:37:23.120
<v Speaker 3>for feminism, if you read it rightly.</v>

01:37:23.120 --> 01:37:25.200
<v Speaker 3>Well, I think if you read in light of everything else that</v>

01:37:25.520 --> 01:37:28.720
<v Speaker 3>we've cited, it's clearly not an anthem for feminism.</v>

01:37:28.720 --> 01:37:32.960
<v Speaker 3>It's an anthem for a helper who is a godly helpmeet, one</v>

01:37:32.960 --> 01:37:36.640
<v Speaker 3>who works within the home, as Titus describes, and is the proud</v>

01:37:36.720 --> 01:37:39.520
<v Speaker 3>of her husband and the joy of his life.</v>

01:37:39.520 --> 01:37:42.640
<v Speaker 3>And that's the sort of God blessing the sort of blessings God</v>

01:37:42.640 --> 01:37:46.400
<v Speaker 3>gives us when we obey him in all of our vocations as</v>

01:37:46.400 --> 01:37:50.320
<v Speaker 3>husband, as wife, whatever task you have, do it faithfully and you</v>

01:37:50.320 --> 01:37:53.760
<v Speaker 3>will be blessed, as Proverbs thirty one describes.</v>

01:37:53.760 --> 01:37:58.560
<v Speaker 2>In this entire issue, what we're really focusing on is a simple</v>

01:37:58.640 --> 01:38:01.120
<v Speaker 2>foundational truth.</v>

01:38:01.120 --> 01:38:05.360
<v Speaker 2>You will You will never be happier than when you are obeying</v>

01:38:05.360 --> 01:38:09.680
<v Speaker 2>God. That doesn't mean that there won't be trials, that there won't</v>

01:38:09.600 --> 01:38:13.440
<v Speaker 2>be challenges, that there won't be sorrow and pain in life, because</v>

01:38:13.440 --> 01:38:15.600
<v Speaker 2>we live in a fallen world.</v>

01:38:15.600 --> 01:38:20.160
<v Speaker 2>But the best possible life you can lead is a life of</v>

01:38:20.160 --> 01:38:23.120
<v Speaker 2>obedience to God.</v>

01:38:23.120 --> 01:38:28.960
<v Speaker 2>Now that doesn't mean that there isn't pleasure and enjoyment, amusement, whatever</v>

01:38:28.960 --> 01:38:32.960
<v Speaker 2>else you may find, in a life of rebellion to God, you</v>

01:38:32.960 --> 01:38:35.040
<v Speaker 2>may find that for a time.</v>

01:38:35.040 --> 01:38:39.440
<v Speaker 2>And so the woman who goes off to college and is promiscuous</v>

01:38:39.760 --> 01:38:44.880
<v Speaker 2>and generally does whatever comes to mind with no regard for the</v>

01:38:44.880 --> 01:38:49.440
<v Speaker 2>things of God or what she should be doing, may very well</v>

01:38:49.440 --> 01:38:55.120
<v Speaker 2>have an enjoyable ten years, fifteen, maybe twenty if she's lucky.</v>

01:38:56.000 --> 01:38:58.880
<v Speaker 2>But she will have destroyed the rest of her life in the</v>

01:38:58.880 --> 01:39:05.520
<v Speaker 2>process, and not only hers, because she destroyed any potential life that</v>

01:39:05.520 --> 01:39:09.120
<v Speaker 2>she would have brought into the world had she been a faithful</v>

01:39:09.120 --> 01:39:14.400
<v Speaker 2>wife, instead of what she chose to become.</v>

01:39:14.400 --> 01:39:14.880
<v Speaker 2>And so</v>

01:39:17.280 --> 01:39:21.360
<v Speaker 2>the point that we are making, of course, the point is always</v>

01:39:21.360 --> 01:39:24.880
<v Speaker 2>the truth of Scripture and that all of Scripture matters, but the</v>

01:39:24.880 --> 01:39:28.720
<v Speaker 2>point that we are making is that as Christians, we must live</v>

01:39:28.720 --> 01:39:32.400
<v Speaker 2>the sort of life that God tells us to live, and believe</v>

01:39:32.400 --> 01:39:36.000
<v Speaker 2>that God will bless us when we do so, because Scripture does</v>

01:39:36.000 --> 01:39:41.760
<v Speaker 2>not just speak of eternal blessings, of crowns in heaven, of such</v>

01:39:41.760 --> 01:39:42.640
<v Speaker 2>things as that.</v>

01:39:42.640 --> 01:39:45.200
<v Speaker 2>Scripture speaks of temporal blessings.</v>

01:39:45.200 --> 01:39:47.760
<v Speaker 2>I believe that I will look on the goodness of the Lord</v>

01:39:47.760 --> 01:39:49.600
<v Speaker 2>in the land of the living.</v>

01:39:49.600 --> 01:39:54.160
<v Speaker 2>Scripture is very clear that when you are true to God, God</v>

01:39:54.160 --> 01:39:54.960
<v Speaker 2>will bless you.</v>

01:39:54.960 --> 01:39:58.960
<v Speaker 2>Again, that does not mean that your life will be perfect, that</v>

01:39:58.960 --> 01:40:03.280
<v Speaker 2>there will be no trials, that there will be no challenges.</v>

01:40:03.280 --> 01:40:05.040
<v Speaker 2>That is not what Scripture promises.</v>

01:40:05.040 --> 01:40:07.920
<v Speaker 2>Scripture in fact promises that there will be trials, there will be</v>

01:40:07.920 --> 01:40:10.480
<v Speaker 2>tribulations, there will be challenges.</v>

01:40:10.480 --> 01:40:13.600
<v Speaker 2>But God will see you through them.</v>

01:40:14.320 --> 01:40:19.600
<v Speaker 2>And for women, the way that you are faithful to God is</v>

01:40:19.600 --> 01:40:23.840
<v Speaker 2>to fulfill your role as a helper.</v>

01:40:23.840 --> 01:40:26.320
<v Speaker 2>That is what God made you.</v>

01:40:26.320 --> 01:40:29.200
<v Speaker 2>That is what you are.</v>

01:40:29.200 --> 01:40:34.880
<v Speaker 2>And as a creature, which this applies to man and woman equally,</v>

01:40:34.880 --> 01:40:37.040
<v Speaker 2>we are both creatures of God.</v>

01:40:37.040 --> 01:40:43.440
<v Speaker 2>As a creature, the Creator made us for various purposes.</v>

01:40:43.440 --> 01:40:47.760
<v Speaker 2>If we rebel against those purposes, we are going against our true</v>

01:40:47.760 --> 01:40:52.640
<v Speaker 2>nature, we are going against our true end, our telos, and we</v>

01:40:52.640 --> 01:40:54.800
<v Speaker 2>will suffer for it.</v>

01:40:54.800 --> 01:40:59.280
<v Speaker 2>If we rebel against the Creator, rebel against His order, rebel against</v>

01:40:59.280 --> 01:41:03.520
<v Speaker 2>what He designed for us, because what He designed for us is</v>

01:41:03.520 --> 01:41:07.040
<v Speaker 2>good, because He is good.</v>

01:41:07.040 --> 01:41:14.160
<v Speaker 2>And so as creatures, that for which we should strive is a</v>

01:41:14.160 --> 01:41:19.360
<v Speaker 2>life lived according to our nature, according to the role for which</v>

01:41:19.360 --> 01:41:24.240
<v Speaker 2>God designed us, the role into which He placed us.</v>

01:41:24.240 --> 01:41:28.640
<v Speaker 2>For men, that of course is all the various things that God</v>

01:41:28.640 --> 01:41:32.800
<v Speaker 2>assigns to the realm of men, chief among them of course being</v>

01:41:32.800 --> 01:41:39.520
<v Speaker 2>husband, leader, father, all of those various roles of headship, and the</v>

01:41:39.520 --> 01:41:43.920
<v Speaker 2>roles to which God assigned women, chief among them of course being</v>

01:41:43.920 --> 01:41:49.040
<v Speaker 2>wife, and what flows naturally from that mother.</v>

01:41:49.040 --> 01:41:53.520
<v Speaker 2>If we fulfill our roles, as we are supposed to fulfill them,</v>

01:41:53.520 --> 01:41:58.000
<v Speaker 2>as God assigned them to us, then he will bless us.</v>

01:41:58.000 --> 01:42:01.680
<v Speaker 2>If we look at the state of our society currently, we can</v>

01:42:01.680 --> 01:42:05.680
<v Speaker 2>very clearly tell that we are not blessed by God.</v>

01:42:05.680 --> 01:42:08.080
<v Speaker 2>And the reason for that should be clear.</v>

01:42:08.640 --> 01:42:13.120
<v Speaker 2>We are not blessed by God because we do not obey God.</v>

01:42:13.120 --> 01:42:15.920
<v Speaker 2>Our women rebel against God.</v>

01:42:15.920 --> 01:42:20.320
<v Speaker 2>Instead of being wives and mothers, they go off to university and</v>

01:42:20.320 --> 01:42:24.720
<v Speaker 2>become professors and corporate leadership.</v>

01:42:24.720 --> 01:42:28.160
<v Speaker 2>That is not the role for which God made woman.</v>

01:42:28.160 --> 01:42:33.280
<v Speaker 2>God made woman to be a helper for man.</v>

01:42:33.280 --> 01:42:37.040
<v Speaker 2>That is the role in which she is happiest.</v>

01:42:37.040 --> 01:42:41.440
<v Speaker 2>That is the role in which she fulfills the end for which</v>

01:42:41.440 --> 01:42:42.880
<v Speaker 2>God made her.</v>

01:42:43.280 --> 01:42:47.600
<v Speaker 2>That is the only role in which humanity continues</v>

01:42:48.640 --> 01:42:52.400
<v Speaker 2>in such a way that we will be blessed by God, because</v>

01:42:52.400 --> 01:42:57.680
<v Speaker 2>everything breaks down when the family breaks down, and the family breaks</v>

01:42:57.680 --> 01:43:03.440
<v Speaker 2>down when Satan comes in and suggests feminism, and men and women</v>

01:43:03.440 --> 01:43:05.120
<v Speaker 2>both adopt it.</v>

01:43:05.120 --> 01:43:09.840
<v Speaker 2>Women adopt it because we go back to that curse in Genesis,</v>

01:43:09.840 --> 01:43:12.240
<v Speaker 2>the desire to rebel to become the head.</v>

01:43:12.240 --> 01:43:15.440
<v Speaker 2>That is why women go in for feminism.</v>

01:43:15.440 --> 01:43:19.280
<v Speaker 2>And men go in for it because it's easier.</v>

01:43:19.280 --> 01:43:21.440
<v Speaker 2>Because being the head is hard.</v>

01:43:21.440 --> 01:43:24.160
<v Speaker 2>Because being the head requires work.</v>

01:43:24.160 --> 01:43:27.440
<v Speaker 2>Because being the head means you will answer to God for what</v>

01:43:27.440 --> 01:43:30.000
<v Speaker 2>you did and what you failed to do.</v>

01:43:30.000 --> 01:43:34.000
<v Speaker 2>And so it seems easier if, like Adam in the garden, you</v>

01:43:34.000 --> 01:43:37.040
<v Speaker 2>stand back and just watch the snake talk to the woman.</v>

01:43:37.040 --> 01:43:39.680
<v Speaker 2>Well, I don't have to be head, I can just stand here</v>

01:43:39.840 --> 01:43:42.800
<v Speaker 2>and do nothing.</v>

01:43:42.800 --> 01:43:46.800
<v Speaker 2>But that doesn't work, because as a man God made you the</v>

01:43:46.800 --> 01:43:50.400
<v Speaker 2>head, and it is your duty to fulfil that role that He</v>

01:43:50.400 --> 01:43:55.280
<v Speaker 2>gave you And as a woman, God made you a helper, and</v>

01:43:55.280 --> 01:44:00.080
<v Speaker 2>it is your duty to fulfill that role that He gave you.</v>

01:44:00.080 --> 01:44:05.280
<v Speaker 2>And so it is incumbent on Christian women to be wives and</v>

01:44:05.280 --> 01:44:09.840
<v Speaker 2>mothers, and it is incumbent on those Christian women who fulfilled that</v>

01:44:09.840 --> 01:44:13.120
<v Speaker 2>role over a course of decades, and are now the older women</v>

01:44:13.120 --> 01:44:17.360
<v Speaker 2>described in Scripture, to teach the younger women to do the same.</v>

01:44:17.520 --> 01:44:22.240
<v Speaker 2>If we return to God, as it says so many times throughout</v>

01:44:22.240 --> 01:44:27.040
<v Speaker 2>Scripture, then He will surely turn to us and bless us.</v>

01:44:27.040 --> 01:44:33.120
<v Speaker 2>If we continue to rebel against God, there is no floor.</v>

01:44:33.120 --> 01:44:42.080
<v Speaker 2>Things can always get worse.</v>