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<v Speaker 2>Welcome to the Stone Choir Podcast.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>I am Corey J.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>Mahler. And I'm still Woe.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>On today's Stone Choir, we're going to begin the first of what</v>

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<v Speaker 3>will be at least a three part series on the Jews.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>As I said last week, towards the end of the episode, in</v>

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<v Speaker 3>the next few weeks, we're going to get be getting into some</v>

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<v Speaker 3>stuff that will probably cross some red lines for some people, probably</v>

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<v Speaker 3>make some of you uncomfortable.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>The reason that we're tackling it is that that's a problem.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>The fact that someone simply saying the Jews may have made you</v>

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<v Speaker 3>squirm, maybe you turned down the volume a little bit, that's a</v>

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<v Speaker 3>big deal.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>Because that came from somewhere.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>And as Christians, we can't talk about our own religion without talking</v>

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<v Speaker 3>about the Jews.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>There's no way to talk about the history of the faith without</v>

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<v Speaker 3>talking about these people.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>The ethnicity, the religious beliefs, the history are all relevant to us</v>

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<v Speaker 3>today, both in time and in the current year.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>And so the fact that there's this sort of inherent requesting that</v>

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<v Speaker 3>I think has been put in in many of our hearts to</v>

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<v Speaker 3>even hear the word, you sort of flinch and think something's something</v>

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<v Speaker 3>bad's gonna happen.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>I I don't wanna be here anymore.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>That's not an adult response.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>That that's not something that should be the case.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>And so today and over the next couple weeks, we're going to</v>

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<v Speaker 3>be going through the history of the Jews in terms of scripture,</v>

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<v Speaker 3>in terms of post-scriptural history, and then modern history, things that some</v>

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<v Speaker 3>of the things have happened in living memory.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>This first episode is going to be entirely focused around scripture, so</v>

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<v Speaker 3>we're going to be begin in the garden and we're going to</v>

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<v Speaker 3>take it all the way through the end.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>And then you know uh obviously the Bible basically ends with some</v>

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<v Speaker 3>prophecies and the destruction of the temple.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>We're gonna be talking about some a few post temple destruction events</v>

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<v Speaker 3>that are relevant to some of the points we're gonna make today,</v>

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<v Speaker 3>but for the most part this will be ending right around the</v>

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<v Speaker 3>second century.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>The episode is going to be in three distinct parts.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>They'll sort of flow into each other because we're going to do</v>

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<v Speaker 3>this in chronological order.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>The first part, the first third, will be basically the timeline of</v>

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<v Speaker 3>you know from Adam through Noah to Abraham through Moses to Jesus</v>

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<v Speaker 3>when did the Jews appear?</v>

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<v Speaker 3>What did they do?</v>

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<v Speaker 3>How did they act?</v>

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<v Speaker 3>What was promised to them?</v>

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<v Speaker 3>What was commanded to them?</v>

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<v Speaker 3>How did they respond to all those things?</v>

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<v Speaker 3>That basically takes us to the roughly the end of the Old</v>

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<v Speaker 3>Testament, which is also called the Intertestamental period.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>There's some things that happened in that time frame from the from</v>

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<v Speaker 3>the conquering of the Northern Northern kingdom through the birth of Christ</v>

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<v Speaker 3>that I think some Christians who know a little bit know some</v>

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<v Speaker 3>bits and pieces, but I think we're gonna put some of those</v>

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<v Speaker 3>details together in a way that will actually make sense for why</v>

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<v Speaker 3>we talk about things like for example the Septuagint, why is there</v>

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<v Speaker 3>a Greek old testament?</v>

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<v Speaker 3>That's relevant.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>So the second part is going to be the fact that many</v>

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<v Speaker 3>of you would probably recognize the Hebrew language.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>If you saw it written, you see a picture, and you're like,</v>

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<v Speaker 3>yes, Hebrew.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>What you don't know is that that's not Hebrew.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>That is it's an Aramaic script and it's a language that is</v>

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<v Speaker 3>disconnected from the original language of the Israelites.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>And so we're going to talk about what happened in that time</v>

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<v Speaker 3>period and why it's relevant today that we have these these confusions</v>

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<v Speaker 3>about what happened in the past because some of the claims that</v>

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<v Speaker 3>we're trying to disabuse in this episode are that when someone today</v>

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<v Speaker 3>says I am a Jew and I speak Hebrew and I live</v>

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<v Speaker 3>in Israel, those are all words from the Bible, and those are</v>

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<v Speaker 3>therefore borrowing whatever affections we have as Christians for our connection to</v>

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<v Speaker 3>those words in the Bible.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>And the reason for going over some of the history is that</v>

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<v Speaker 3>there is a not only a profound discontinuity between what we have</v>

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<v Speaker 3>and what we see and what we hear today and what was</v>

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<v Speaker 3>happening thousands of years ago, but the discontinuity is the result of</v>

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<v Speaker 3>God's judgment against those people.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>And that's mate what makes it a profoundly important religious matter.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>This is this is a matter of the faith when God pronounces</v>

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<v Speaker 3>judgment upon people and they're scattered and destroyed.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>Every nation is to take that as a warning.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>Whenever there's any sort of calamity that befalls someone, that should be</v>

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<v Speaker 3>taken as a warning that this is God's judgment.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>They did something bad, whatever it was, I should pay attention.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>I should not do the bad thing that they did.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>So it's important to learn, you know, from everything in scripture, when</v>

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<v Speaker 3>God visits his wrath, let's make sure that doesn't happen to us</v>

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<v Speaker 3>too. And that might involve not listening to the people to whom</v>

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<v Speaker 3>God's wrath was poured out by the bucket load.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>So the second part will be the intertestamental period and the the</v>

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<v Speaker 3>fiction of the Hebrew language.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>And third part is going to specifically deal with the time of</v>

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<v Speaker 3>Christ in the New Testament as he was preaching, as he was</v>

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<v Speaker 3>going around in Judea and Samaria, what did he encounter and how</v>

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<v Speaker 3>do the Jews treat him?</v>

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<v Speaker 3>One of the overarching themes of of all three of these sections</v>

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<v Speaker 3>is that we're going to be saying many things that your pastors</v>

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<v Speaker 3>probably are afraid to say.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>And in some cases, your pastors don't know.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>I've had pastors who literally didn't know that Jesus wasn't speaking Hebrew</v>

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<v Speaker 3>every day.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>Nobody spoke Hebrew every day.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>It was a dead language.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>It was like Latin is dead today.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>It still existed in tiny corners, but it wasn't a going concern</v>

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<v Speaker 3>at all.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>That's relevant.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>And the fact the pastors don't know is a big deal.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>And in particular, pastors are terrified of telling people the Jews killed</v>

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<v Speaker 3>God. Scripture makes that so clear that no one could possibly reach</v>

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<v Speaker 3>any other conclusion other than by listening to voices that do not</v>

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<v Speaker 3>come from scripture.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>So the last third of this is going to go through many</v>

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<v Speaker 3>verses that make it abundantly clear that the Pharisees were the leaders,</v>

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<v Speaker 3>the Jews were the people, the angry crowd that was continuously chasing</v>

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<v Speaker 3>Jesus around hundreds of miles or running in sandals, continuously trying to</v>

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<v Speaker 3>kill him.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>It wasn't the Pharisees.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>It was the Jews.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>Not all of them.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>There were some Jews who were faithful.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>His followers were Jews.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>The disciples were Jews.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>It's so again, you know, the knacks all things come into play.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>Not all acts are like that.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>There were Jews in that day who believed the promise.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>Mary believed the promise of the Christ.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>And so when the angels came to her and said that she</v>

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<v Speaker 3>would be the vessel for that promise, she wasn't confused.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>She knew exactly what the angel was talking about.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>She couldn't believe that it was going to be her, but she</v>

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<v Speaker 3>received it in faith because she was a faithful Christian.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>She was a Christian who was a Jew.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>And we've talked about that in the past, that the belief and</v>

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<v Speaker 3>the promise from the garden is what makes one a Christian.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>And so we're going to end as we're talking about me particularly</v>

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<v Speaker 3>from Acts and from Romans where scripture discusses who are the true</v>

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<v Speaker 3>children of Abraham because that's one of the fundamental questions that unfortunately</v>

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<v Speaker 3>today it's a political question somehow.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>That'll be a future episode.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>We talk about how children of Abraham, how could that possibly be</v>

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<v Speaker 3>a political live issue in the twenty-first century?</v>

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<v Speaker 3>That's why saying the Jews makes people nervous, because something that should</v>

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<v Speaker 3>be a scriptural historical term and concept has political ramifications today.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>So today's episode is scripture.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>Future episodes will deal with history and some politics, but we have</v>

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<v Speaker 3>to lay the foundation first for the subject in what God reveals</v>

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<v Speaker 3>in scripture.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>So I think we'll begin at the very beginning just with who</v>

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<v Speaker 3>is a Jew in the old testament.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>I think one of the lazy things that we do is to</v>

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<v Speaker 3>just kind of assume that well everybody in the Old Testament's a</v>

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<v Speaker 3>Jew. Like that's the Jewish book and then the New Testament book</v>

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<v Speaker 3>is a Christian book.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>And there were some Jews who became Christians, but that was that</v>

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<v Speaker 3>transition period.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>And then post New Testament, everybody's Christian.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>Or you're a Jew, but you went off in the other direction.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>But the key element is that the misconception that everyone in the</v>

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<v Speaker 3>Old Testament is a Jew opens the door to all sorts of</v>

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<v Speaker 3>errors downstream.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>We're not going to get to those errors today.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>We're just going to make the case that Jews came into the</v>

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<v Speaker 3>timeline by God's design at a certain time for a certain purpose.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>And prior to that, there were no Jews.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>Adam was not a Jew.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>I think one of the tricky things about that is that Adam</v>

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<v Speaker 3>is a Hebrew word.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>And so it's just we're just sort of intellectually lazy and we</v>

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<v Speaker 3>think, well, if if the name was Hebrew and that make must</v>

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<v Speaker 3>make him a Jew, right?</v>

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<v Speaker 3>They're Adam, they're Adams today who are Jews, many who are not,</v>

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<v Speaker 3>because it's you know it's an ancient it's the oldest name we</v>

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<v Speaker 3>have. When you start making these small errors, they don't seem to</v>

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<v Speaker 3>have any consequence at the moment, but they will accumulate over time.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>And that's a recurring theme on Stone Choir.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>These small errors are doors that are being opened to make big</v>

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<v Speaker 3>errors later.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>So as we go through this, we're gonna nitpick seemingly small things,</v>

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<v Speaker 3>but they're all going to point in the same direction to say</v>

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<v Speaker 3>this man was a Jew, this man was not a Jew, here's</v>

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<v Speaker 3>what the Jews were doing, and why all those things matter.</v>

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When

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<v Speaker 2>you mention that the name is in Hebrew, it brings to mind</v>

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<v Speaker 2>a favorite argument that I've seen primarily from leftists, Marxists and others</v>

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<v Speaker 2>like that, but you'll see it on posters and things that rallies</v>

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<v Speaker 2>sometimes for them.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>Because they like to appeal to scripture even though they don't believe</v>

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<v Speaker 2>in it.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>That should bring a certain meme to mind for certain people.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>But they'll argue there are no white people in scripture.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>Which of course just betrays a staggering ignorance of scripture because Japheth</v>

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<v Speaker 2>is the father of all of Europe.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>Obviously then he was white.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>There are Romans in Scripture, there are Greeks in Scripture.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>It's a complete nonsense argument.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>It just betrays stunning ignorance of Scripture, and that's what we're dealing</v>

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<v Speaker 2>with when it comes to pastors and many others who will say,</v>

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<v Speaker 2>Well, no, all these people they were Jews.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>Adam was not a Jew.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>Noah was not a Jew.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>Abraham was not a Jew.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>You don't have any Jews in scripture until you get to Judah.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>Because that is how you derive the term Jew is from the</v>

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<v Speaker 2>tribe of Judah.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>That's where that comes from, and from Judean.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>So the modern term in English anyway enters basically through Latin.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>The term for the people</v>

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<v Speaker 2>living in Palestine, as the Romans renamed it, who were living in</v>

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<v Speaker 2>Palestine at the time that Rome controlled the area.</v>

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And

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<v Speaker 3>it wasn't even a term that they used for themselves.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>they didn't call themselves Jews.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>It was it was just shorthand because the the northern kingdom had</v>

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<v Speaker 3>been destroyed.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>You had these people in the south and in Judah, so they</v>

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<v Speaker 3>got called Jews by their conquerors.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>Like it it wasn't out if it was a slur, but it</v>

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<v Speaker 3>was just i it was a term applied to a group of</v>

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<v Speaker 3>people that was alien to the people naming them.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>They saidn care like oh yeah those are the the Jews down</v>

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<v Speaker 3>there in in Judea.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>Exactly.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>And</v>

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<v Speaker 2>there are some who will argue that the etymology for Hebrew, which</v>

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<v Speaker 2>is the term they would have used before that, and still of</v>

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<v Speaker 2>course, do use for themselves and for their language, which we'll get</v>

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<v Speaker 2>into the language more.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>That's derived either from Eber, which can have, of course, that initial</v>

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<v Speaker 2>H sound in the Greek, Heber, or it is derived from an</v>

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<v Speaker 2>older term from I can't remember which language it was now.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>I think it was related to a handful of languages in the</v>

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<v Speaker 2>area, so it's not necessarily just one, but it means across the</v>

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<v Speaker 2>river. Or one who lives across the river.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>And so it was just a term of place, essentially.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>Also a person's name, obviously Eber being the son of Shela, son</v>

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<v Speaker 2>of Arpakshad, son of Shem.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>Shem being the the ultimate father after Noah, of course, after Adam,</v>

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<v Speaker 2>after Noah, of the line from which Christ came.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>And so the people who would become known as Jews, at least</v>

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<v Speaker 2>a part of them would become known as Jews, because as was</v>

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<v Speaker 2>said, the northern kingdom was destroyed.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>The Assyrian captivity of the northern kingdom took those ten tribes, and</v>

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<v Speaker 2>yes, there's some fuzz there, some gray area when it comes to</v>

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<v Speaker 2>the numbering of the tribes, how many tribes exactly were in the</v>

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<v Speaker 2>south, how many were in the the north, because you have ten</v>

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<v Speaker 2>in the north, but then you have Judah, Benjamin, and Levi in</v>

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<v Speaker 2>the south.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>That aside, the Assyrian captivity is what took the northern kingdom and</v>

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<v Speaker 2>destroyed it.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>The people of the northern kingdom were destroyed because how the Assyrians</v>

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<v Speaker 2>destroyed a conquered people was they would take some of those out</v>

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<v Speaker 2>of the conquered territory, move them elsewhere in their empire, and then</v>

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<v Speaker 2>take people from elsewhere in the empire and move them into the</v>

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<v Speaker 2>conquered territory.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>So in other words, what they did was they used interbreeding, interracial</v>

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<v Speaker 2>relationships as a means of destruction of a nation.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>And that's exactly what they did to the Northern Kingdom.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>So the Northern Kingdom was completely and utterly destroyed, which of course</v>

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<v Speaker 2>is the beginning of an argument against so-called Christian Zionism and many</v>

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<v Speaker 2>other</v>

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<v Speaker 2>well, heretical theologies that have sprung up more recently.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>You can't have a restoration of the twelve tribes because ten of</v>

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<v Speaker 2>them no longer exist.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>They were destroyed by the Assyrians.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>As opposed to the Southern Kingdom, the Kingdom of Judah, which was</v>

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<v Speaker 2>taken into partial captivity by the Babylonians, but the Babylonians did not</v>

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<v Speaker 2>destroy their conquered peoples in the same way the Assyrians did.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>So the Southern Kingdom was not destroyed.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>That would become the Judeans.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>That would be the people who were living in the area, when</v>

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<v Speaker 2>the Romans came and conquered them, those are the people who would</v>

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<v Speaker 2>come to be called Jews.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>And so earlier on in scripture, all of these men are not</v>

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<v Speaker 2>Jews. Jews don't exist in the earliest parts of scripture.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>There are no Jews in Genesis.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>Unless you're talking just about names, in which case, yes, you have</v>

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<v Speaker 2>obviously the genealogies.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>But if your pastor is telling you that Abraham was a Jew,</v>

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<v Speaker 2>your pastor is just wrong.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>He needs to go back and read scripture.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>The first occurrence in both the Septuagint and the Masoretic text for</v>

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<v Speaker 3>the Old Testament of the word Hebrew is in Genesis thirty-nine when</v>

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<v Speaker 3>Potiphar's wife describes Joseph as the Hebrew slave.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>So that was several generations removed from Abraham.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>That's not Jew, but it's the first instance of Hebrew.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>There is one instance that's worth noting in Genesis thirteen where when</v>

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<v Speaker 3>Abram has not yet received the name Abraham from God, the text,</v>

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<v Speaker 3>the Masoretic text, that is the Hebrew text that is much newer</v>

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<v Speaker 3>incidentally than the Septuagint, even though it's technically written to Hebrew and</v>

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<v Speaker 3>we'll get to that later.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>In Genesis thirteen, the Masoretic text does refer to or maybe it's</v>

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<v Speaker 3>Genesis fourteen, I think it's fourteen thirteen, refers to Abram as the</v>

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<v Speaker 3>Hebrew. Interestingly, in the Septuagint, the word Hebrew does not appear.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>That word was added in the Hebrew text, which is notable I</v>

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<v Speaker 3>think, because while we're not going to get into the disputation between</v>

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<v Speaker 3>the Masoretic text and the Septuagint, it is important to acknowledge that</v>

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<v Speaker 3>there are a few places where the Masoretic text is demonstrably corrupted.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>The most prominent example is the prophecy in Isaiah of the Virgin</v>

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<v Speaker 3>giving birth.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>That is changed in what we call the Hebrew Bible today to</v>

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<v Speaker 3>a young girl.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>Septuagin doesn't have that error.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>And if you remember from our genealogy episode, that's a particularly interesting</v>

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<v Speaker 3>one because we actually have evidence from post Babel</v>

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<v Speaker 3>expansion of humanity in all different directions.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>People who were never part of any of this story had the</v>

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<v Speaker 3>story of a virgin birth of a god That is something that</v>

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<v Speaker 3>is a widespread story, a myth, a legend that exists in far</v>

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<v Speaker 3>flung places like Vietnam, well</v>

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<v Speaker 3>separated from any contact with anyone who would have known what was</v>

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<v Speaker 3>going on in the days of Abraham.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>So or Isaiah for that matter, because Isaiah was fairly late.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>So it's crucially important to note that we know from outside of</v>

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<v Speaker 3>Scripture that some notion of a virgin born God was a prophecy</v>

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<v Speaker 3>that was given prior to Isaiah and it was shared among believers</v>

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<v Speaker 3>and then corrupted among unbelievers.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>So we can know with absolute certainty as Christians that when the</v>

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<v Speaker 3>Hebrew Bible, the Masoretic text that we are told to believe is</v>

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<v Speaker 3>older says young girl instead of virgin, it's not correct.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>So I think it's worth acknowledging that the word Hebrew does occur</v>

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<v Speaker 3>one time in Abram's day, but I I I I I just</v>

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<v Speaker 3>found this you know a couple hours ago.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>I haven't had a chance to really dig into it too much.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>Based on what I know of a couple of the other errors,</v>

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<v Speaker 3>it's my assumption as I go digging into that that that was</v>

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<v Speaker 3>probably added in the second, third, fourth, fifth, sixth century AD.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>It was added well after by Jews who had been expelled from</v>

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<v Speaker 3>Jerusalem, who hated the Christians and</v>

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<v Speaker 3>were beginning to concoct this story that Hebrews are eternal.</v>

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You

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<v Speaker 2>know,</v>

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<v Speaker 3>Noah's a Hebrew, Noah was a Jew.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>No. Abraham wasn't a Jew, it was his grandson who was named</v>

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<v Speaker 3>Israel by God.'s the other term that comes up that's very important.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>Basically you have Jew, you have Hebrew, and you have Israel or</v>

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<v Speaker 3>Israelite, all more or less used interchangeably at different places and different</v>

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<v Speaker 3>times. Sometimes they mean the same thing, sometimes they don't.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>Sometimes they mean different things.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>And so when God wrestles with Jacob and then names him Israel,</v>

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<v Speaker 3>that's the very first time that that word was used.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>It was given to him by God as a new name.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>And that name was carried by his descendants.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>That's very important.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>It's from God.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>No Christian would ever besmirch that in the slightest.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>But as we'll get to it in the last part, what does</v>

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<v Speaker 3>that mean?</v>

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<v Speaker 3>What does it mean to be a child of Abraham, to be</v>

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<v Speaker 3>a child of the covenant?</v>

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<v Speaker 3>When we get into the some of the later texts in the</v>

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<v Speaker 3>New Testament, pointing back to the Old Testament makes it very clear,</v>

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<v Speaker 3>it means those who have faith that it is not a genetic</v>

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<v Speaker 3>lineage, it is a lineage of faith.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>As we discussed in the election episode, which is very much a</v>

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<v Speaker 3>part of this episode, please go back and listen to that if</v>

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<v Speaker 3>you haven't listened to it in the last couple months.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>It is key to understanding this episode because one of the other</v>

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<v Speaker 3>terms that gets thrown around a lot is chosen.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>You hear of the Jews called God's chosen people.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>It's a word that God uses.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>God says, I chose these people.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>Many times that's how it's referred to, how how the Israelites are</v>

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<v Speaker 3>referred to.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>Chosen and elect are synonyms.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>And this is something that we've completely lost sight of today.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>When God says I chose you, doesn't that's literally saying I elected</v>

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<v Speaker 3>you. And so in the election episode we exp explain in detail</v>

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<v Speaker 3>that election is not a new doctrine that Calvin came up with.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, there's most people think that oh election or predestination, that's that</v>

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<v Speaker 3>Calvinist stuff As Lutherans, we call what Calvinists hold double predestination, where</v>

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<v Speaker 3>God elected some to be saved and God elected others to be</v>

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<v Speaker 3>damned. We believe that Scripture doesn't say that.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>Scripture says that God elected some to be saved, and that God</v>

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<v Speaker 3>desires that all men be saved, and that God's sacrifice on the</v>

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<v Speaker 3>cross was for all men.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>And so those men who are damned are damned of their own</v>

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<v Speaker 3>volition. They choose to remain evil, they reject God.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>Those who are elect do not reject God.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>And so we spend a couple hours dealing with how does that</v>

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<v Speaker 3>make sense?</v>

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<v Speaker 3>Because it sounds irrational.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>Frankly, it is irrational.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>You can't make a reasonable case for predestination that doesn't sound crazy.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>So we do it there as best we can.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>It makes sense if you believe scripture.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>What you can believe is your own reason.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>But the important thing to carry away is that whenever you hear</v>

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<v Speaker 3>someone saying, particularly in the Old Testament, these people were the chosen</v>

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<v Speaker 3>people of God, they were elect.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>And that applied not only to the lineal descendants of Abraham, because</v>

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<v Speaker 3>remember Jonah, who was a Jewish prophet, was sent by God to</v>

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<v Speaker 3>go to Nineveh, which was one of the greatest of the Gentile</v>

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<v Speaker 3>cities, was one of the largest cities on the planet at the</v>

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<v Speaker 3>time. Jonah wouldn't go because he knew they would believe, and they</v>

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<v Speaker 3>would repent and they would become children of God.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>God said, The people of Nineveh are elect, go to them and</v>

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<v Speaker 3>proclaim my word.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>And Jonah's like, No, if I go, they'll believe me, and they'll</v>

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<v Speaker 3>repent. I don't want that, because they're not Jews.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>And so the whole story of Jonah is about him refusing to</v>

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<v Speaker 3>go to people who weren't Jews because he didn't want to give</v>

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<v Speaker 3>them the gospel.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>God elected them.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>Jonah disobeyed.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>God won.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>Because that's how election works.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>God doesn't lose.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>He doesn't lose any of us.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>So these terms like Jew, chosen, Israelite, Hebrew, it's important to understand</v>

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<v Speaker 3>which term you're using and why and where it's coming from, etymologically</v>

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<v Speaker 3>because sometimes they do serve different purposes.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>And for those who are maybe not particularly familiar with these source</v>

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<v Speaker 2>texts, the Masoretic text is from roughly the earliest would be the</v>

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<v Speaker 2>sixth century, and that's AD, not BC notably.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>It wasn't completed until the ninth or the tenth century.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>That is, say, as opposed to the Septuagint, which is from I</v>

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<v Speaker 2>think the earliest copies we have are the third century BC.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>So there's a significant difference in age between these two manuscript</v>

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<v Speaker 2>sources. Notably, of course, the Masoretic text also has the so-called</v>

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<v Speaker 2>Star of David all over it.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>We see that see that in many of the copies of things</v>

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<v Speaker 2>that we have related to that line of sources.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>We'll get into that perhaps perhaps not in this episode, but soon</v>

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<v Speaker 2>enough. That'll be for the next episode.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>That's what I figured.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. That symbol does date back before that.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>I think the earliest instance of that in a religious context is</v>

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<v Speaker 2>the third or the fourth century.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>Again, AD, not BC, but at any rate.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>So it is arguably the more reliable text is the Greek text.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>And that is the text the church has used for a very</v>

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<v Speaker 2>long time until modern translations started using the Masoretic.</v>

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I

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<v Speaker 3>think it's important.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>We're not going to get into textual criticism or anything today, but</v>

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<v Speaker 3>uh</v>

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<v Speaker 3>when people are hearing these things, one of the most common responses</v>

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<v Speaker 3>internally in someone's mind will probably be to have their confidence undermined</v>

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<v Speaker 3>and well is my Bible really the word of God?</v>

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<v Speaker 3>I think that</v>

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<v Speaker 3>the more manuscripts we get access to, the more clear it is</v>

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<v Speaker 3>how much God has preserved his word through the millennia.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>There's very few differences between the Masoretic text and the Septuagint in</v>

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<v Speaker 3>Greek. There's very little difference between all the various manuscripts in Greek.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>They're overwhelmingly almost identical.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>The changes are typically small and incidental.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>Oftentimes they're it's clear that they're just copyist errors.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>Occasionally you will have things that were in the margin that then</v>

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<v Speaker 3>got migrated where someone had made a note to himself and someone</v>

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<v Speaker 3>said, Well that sounds good and ended up inserting it into the</v>

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<v Speaker 3>text. So the reason it's important I don't want anyone who's hearing</v>

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<v Speaker 3>us talk about these two different textual sources to think, oh no,</v>

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<v Speaker 3>my Bible is wrong.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>You're reading your Bible in English.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>It's far removed from these languages.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>It's translated by men for the most part.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>We're doing the best they could.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>Every translation today has some problems.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>That's okay.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>It's not going to destroy your faith.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>God has preserved his word for thousands of years.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>He will continue to do so.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, we should seek to have the most reliable books of the</v>

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<v Speaker 3>Bible that we can get our hands on.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>We should seek to have faithful translations.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>When errors are discovered, we should figure out why and how and</v>

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<v Speaker 3>we should get rid of them.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>But none of these conversations should ever be an excuse for you</v>

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<v Speaker 3>to think, oh man, I I just I can't trust any of</v>

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<v Speaker 3>this now.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know what's going on.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>I don't have confidence.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>God has preserved his word.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>He preserved it in the Masoretic text, even in spite of the</v>

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<v Speaker 3>interference of the</v>

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<v Speaker 3>post Christian Jews who were rabidly against the Christians, they still preserved</v>

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<v Speaker 3>almost all the text completely intact.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>So when there are variations, that should not be a source to</v>

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<v Speaker 3>think, oh no, something terrible has gone wrong.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>In a few cases, like yeah, this it's clear why this change</v>

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<v Speaker 3>was made.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>It's almost never the case otherwise.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>So please don't conclude from listening to this episode I need to</v>

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<v Speaker 3>get rid of my Bible and get a different one.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>I have to learn about this or I'm not gonna have confidence.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>That's not the case.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>Whatever Bible you have, God is going to use for your edification.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>As if you want to learn more about this stuff, there's plenty</v>

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<v Speaker 3>to to learn and study and dig into it.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>And to be enriched, I think that's the important part, is that</v>

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<v Speaker 3>learning about these variations is enriching.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>It doesn't undermine faith because the more you look at the different</v>

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<v Speaker 3>copies, the more you realize how much they're on the same page,</v>

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<v Speaker 3>which is miraculous.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>The only way that this stuff could have been preserved across across</v>

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<v Speaker 3>thousands of examples across millennia is if God was intervening in time</v>

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<v Speaker 3>and space with the copias with the manuscripts with the papyri only</v>

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<v Speaker 3>God could have done this.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>So even when we find things like that doesn't seem quite right,</v>

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<v Speaker 3>doesn't mean God didn't do this stuff.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>It just means that when humans are involved, we have to pay</v>

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<v Speaker 3>attention. That's why this podcast exists, because humans are involved, we have</v>

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<v Speaker 3>to pay attention to stuff.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>So please do not lose confidence in whatever Bible you have because</v>

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<v Speaker 3>that is God's word given to you for your edification.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>I personally primarily make use of the ESV.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>That's I have most of my Bibles are ESV.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>I have I don't even know how many Bibles at this point,</v>

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<v Speaker 2>but that is in the Old Testament primarily relying on the Masoretic.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>I have no problem trusting the text of the ESV.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, there are some little problems here and there, they play some</v>

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<v Speaker 2>games with a couple words.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>But I'm not worried about it.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>It is still God's word, it is still reliable.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>And to give listeners an idea of the sort of differences between</v>

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<v Speaker 2>the Greek source documents we use for translating the scriptures.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>One of the more famous examples is the announcement of the angels</v>

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<v Speaker 2>to the shepherds.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>In some of the manuscripts, there's an iota missing.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>Literally the smallest letter in Greek.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>It's just a scribal error.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>It was dropped.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>It changes the meaning in terms of nuance, but it does not</v>

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<v Speaker 2>change the meaning in terms of content.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>It basically shifts from the angels announcing peace on earth and goodwill</v>

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<v Speaker 2>toward men to peace on earth and goodwill toward men on whom</v>

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<v Speaker 2>God's favor rests.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>It's a minor thing, and obviously again, smallest letter in Greek, scribal</v>

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<v Speaker 2>error. That's the sort of thing you're seeing when you see disagreements</v>

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<v Speaker 2>between the manuscripts.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>These are not big disagreements, they're usually relatively minor things.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>So again, yes, your Bible in English or whatever language you're reading</v>

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<v Speaker 2>it in is reliable.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>You can rely on that.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, it's helpful to have some resort to the underlying languages, but</v>

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<v Speaker 2>you don't even actually have to know them in this day and</v>

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<v Speaker 2>age, because you can go and find websites online where you can</v>

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<v Speaker 2>click on a word in a verse and it will tell you</v>

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<v Speaker 2>exactly what it means in the underlying language.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>So you can verify for yourself.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>if something you read, you have questions, talk to your pastor, talk</v>

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<v Speaker 2>to someone who understands it, or find one of these sites and</v>

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<v Speaker 2>do the study on your own.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>There is a wealth of information and tools at our disposal today</v>

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<v Speaker 2>that would have made scholars in the past incredibly envious.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>So on the subject of language, as we As we you know</v>

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<v Speaker 3>we mentioned, as I'm sure you all know, the the northern kingdom</v>

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<v Speaker 3>of Israel was conquered in seven twenty two BC by the Assyrians.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>As Cory mentioned, when the Assyrians conquered them, they used the importation</v>

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<v Speaker 3>of foreigners to basically impose race mixing to wipe out those tribes.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>And the result was the Samaritans.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>Which is why in scripture we are all familiar with the notions</v>

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<v Speaker 3>that the Samaritans were treated as as filthy as less than as</v>

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<v Speaker 3>as half breeds, because they had been Israelites, they had been Hebrews</v>

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<v Speaker 3>at one point.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>But then when the Assyrians forcibly mixed them with other races, they</v>

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<v Speaker 3>ceased to have the Israelite bloodline.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>And the Jews of the first century found that disgusting.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>They had they had always been disgusted by them.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>The Samaritans in the And the Jews had disliked each other for</v>

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<v Speaker 3>many centuries to that point.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>The Samaritans were created by having been conquered.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>What's important about the conquering is that</v>

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<v Speaker 3>the Assyrians and the Babylonians and the Persians and then the Greeks</v>

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<v Speaker 3>and then the Romans in turn each conquering them, by the way,</v>

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<v Speaker 3>all judgment from God, when you get conquered five times in almost</v>

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<v Speaker 3>as many centuries by disparate people who were crushing you, that's a</v>

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<v Speaker 3>bad sign.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>God has turned his back on you.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>And scripture makes that clear.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>There were there was a sea of of prophets coming to them</v>

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<v Speaker 3>calling to them the r to repent for their wickedness that had</v>

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<v Speaker 3>led to the destruction of the two kingdoms in the first place.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>One of the things that occurred under Assyrian then Persian rule is</v>

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<v Speaker 3>that the original Hebrew language in which Moses had written the Torah,</v>

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<v Speaker 3>when God transcribed the Torah for Moses and he wrote it down,</v>

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<v Speaker 3>he used what is today called proto- Proto-Hebrew.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>The Proto-Hebrew alphabet is similar to hieroglyphs.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>They think is probably derived.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>It's kind of downstream.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>It's not it's not pictograms, but it's sort of similar in that</v>

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<v Speaker 3>vein of kind of simple geometric shapes uh and some symbols, but</v>

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<v Speaker 3>it's a fairly primitive language.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>Today it's called proto-Hebrew because what replaced it just gets called Hebrew.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>And that's one of the first big things that's really important to</v>

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<v Speaker 3>to learn in this episode is that as I said earlier, what</v>

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<v Speaker 3>you see today when you think, Oh yeah, that's Hebrew, it isn't.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>It is an alphabet that was imposed.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>it's the Aramaic alphabet, they're related, but it's related through the Persian</v>

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<v Speaker 3>conquest. It has no relation whatsoever to the language of Moses.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>And I think that's important.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>Just as a fact.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>You don't need to derive any particular theological conclusion from it, but</v>

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<v Speaker 3>simply as a fact, when Moses wrote the Ten Commandments on the</v>

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<v Speaker 3>stone tablets, it was not in what we call Hebrew today.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>In fact, I think if if it's not the show art, we'll</v>

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<v Speaker 3>definitely include the image.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>Charlton Heston's Ten Commandments movie, the poster with him holding the Ten</v>

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<v Speaker 3>Commandments actually has proto Hebrew on it.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>It has the proto-Hebraic alphabet.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>They got that detail right.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>If they were to remake that today, they would never do that.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>They would use the fake Hebrew script that's actually Aramaic today that</v>

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<v Speaker 3>came from Persia.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>Why? Because we think that we think that there's a direct continuity</v>

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<v Speaker 3>between Abraham and Moses and Jesus and us.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>And And languages go through those evolutions.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>I was just looking earlier today at uh middle English and old</v>

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<v Speaker 3>English, just to see for example, could I comprehend something that was,</v>

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<v Speaker 3>you know, a thousand, twelve hundred years old?</v>

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<v Speaker 3>Middle English.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>I can I can read most of it.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>Some of the vocabulary is strange.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>There are a few symbols, a few letters that have been transposed</v>

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<v Speaker 3>into other letters today, but it's intelligible for the most part.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>That's still English.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>And that's something that's from you know seven, eight hundred years ago.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>You go back to old English that's you know over a thousand</v>

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<v Speaker 3>years old, I can't read it.</v>

00:34:00.000 --> 00:34:02.000
<v Speaker 3>I can pick out a few words if I know how to</v>

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<v Speaker 3>phonetically describe them.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>I can maybe guess at what some of them are, but although</v>

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<v Speaker 3>it's called old English as an English speaker, it's not accessible to</v>

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<v Speaker 3>me. So this happens all the time in language.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>It's not it's not inherently that something is up, something is sneaky</v>

00:34:17.520 --> 00:34:22.240
<v Speaker 3>for the Hebrew of today, what is called modern Hebrew, to not</v>

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<v Speaker 3>match what existed in the first century or what existed five hundred</v>

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<v Speaker 3>years before Christ.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>But it is important because I think almost everyone thinks that's not</v>

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<v Speaker 3>the case.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>We think that we have this ancient stuff and that the you</v>

00:34:33.920 --> 00:34:39.360
<v Speaker 3>know, the sort of scripted square, almost calligraphic letters that you know</v>

00:34:39.360 --> 00:34:40.800
<v Speaker 3>is the Hebrew language.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>You think that that's what Moses was reading and writing.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>And probably what you know Adam was reading, right?</v>

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<v Speaker 3>'Cause obviously Adam was a Jew too.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>Well no.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>The first Jew, you know, was Jacob, maybe, if you want to</v>

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<v Speaker 3>say all Israelites are Jews.</v>

00:34:53.680 --> 00:34:54.400
<v Speaker 3>I don't care.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>We'll talk about some of the history of the terminology in the</v>

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<v Speaker 3>next episode, but the important part Important part is that there's a</v>

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<v Speaker 3>fundamental discontinuity.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>And when they were conquered and they had their alphabet replaced, they</v>

00:35:05.120 --> 00:35:08.960
<v Speaker 3>had their language replaced, the Hebrew language was lost.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>It was completely lost in the Northern Kingdom.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>They the Samaritans they preserved the uh interestingly, the Samaritan alphabet is</v>

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<v Speaker 3>basically the Proto-Hebraic alphabet.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>It preserves many of those same symbols.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>It looks very similar.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>It's completely disconnected from what is modern Hebrew or Aramaic.</v>

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If

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<v Speaker 2>you look at Old Hebrew or Proto Hebrew or whichever term you</v>

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<v Speaker 2>want to use for it, it looks very similar to Phoenician.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>So if you have seen Phoenician lettering before somewhere, museum or whatnot,</v>

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<v Speaker 2>you know exactly what old Hebrew looked like.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>And they are both derived from Protosenaic, which was Which was even</v>

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<v Speaker 2>older than that.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>That looks very similar, it's missing some letters, but as was mentioned,</v>

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<v Speaker 2>modern Hebrew is not what scripture it's not the language in which</v>

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<v Speaker 2>scripture was written, it's not the text the alphabet in which scripture</v>

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<v Speaker 2>was written, because this is actually an alphabet that was written in</v>

00:36:11.520 --> 00:36:15.600
<v Speaker 2>Old Hebrew, which actually another thing to which you could compare it</v>

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<v Speaker 2>if you know runic, it looks much more similar to runic than</v>

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<v Speaker 2>say modern Hebrew slash Aramaic or modern English Latin lettering.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>But Hebrew itself, the language, was basically dead by the time of</v>

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<v Speaker 2>Christ. It was still used to some degree in what would be</v>

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<v Speaker 2>considered today perhaps academic circles.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>So you would have had some handful of priests in Jerusalem who</v>

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<v Speaker 2>could still read this language.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>They didn't use the language, they didn't speak the language.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>Maybe they read the language aloud at certain services on high holy</v>

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<v Speaker 2>days. They would have had someone there to translate it into Aramaic</v>

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<v Speaker 2>for the common people, because the common people did not know any</v>

00:37:04.800 --> 00:37:08.000
<v Speaker 2>Hebrew. So at least they had more decency than the medieval Roman</v>

00:37:08.480 --> 00:37:12.160
<v Speaker 2>church, which didn't even bother to translate from Latin.</v>

00:37:12.160 --> 00:37:15.600
<v Speaker 2>But you can think of it in that same sort of light.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>In the medieval era, you had church services being conducted in Latin.</v>

00:37:21.200 --> 00:37:25.040
<v Speaker 2>The common people did not know Latin anymore.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>Some of the educated class knew Latin, so it's not directly comparable,</v>

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<v Speaker 2>because you did have Europeans who still knew Latin, who still learned</v>

00:37:32.080 --> 00:37:35.920
<v Speaker 2>Latin, the sons The sons of noble houses and such, but the</v>

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<v Speaker 2>common people did not know what was going on in the church</v>

00:37:38.080 --> 00:37:41.520
<v Speaker 2>service because it was conducted in Latin, and they did not translate</v>

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<v Speaker 2>it into the vernacular.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>You had a similar thing happening around the the switchover, as it</v>

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<v Speaker 2>were, from BC to AD, where Hebrew was no longer understood by</v>

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<v Speaker 2>the common people.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>They spoke Aramaic because they had been conquered a number of times</v>

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<v Speaker 2>by Aramaic speaking peoples, and so they had used Aramaic in order</v>

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<v Speaker 2>to deal with their new neighbors as it were, to handle trade.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>All of these various things were conducted in Aramaic.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>And so they lost their language over time.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>That's what happens.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>If you stop using your language, you lose your language.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>And when they were conquered by Alexander around 330 BC, they began</v>

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<v Speaker 3>to speak Greek.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>They were probably speaking some before that, but</v>

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<v Speaker 3>If you look at the original languages of the Apocrypha, the books</v>

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<v Speaker 3>that were written in the intertestamental period after Malachi and before Matthew,</v>

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<v Speaker 3>none of them were written Hebrew, none of them were written in</v>

00:38:39.600 --> 00:38:42.080
<v Speaker 3>Aramaic. They're written in Greek.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>The Septuagint was translated around 250 BC.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>Now, this was in part because I believe it was Ptolemy II</v>

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<v Speaker 3>had requested that the laws of the Hebrews be translated so that</v>

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<v Speaker 3>they were accessible, but it was also because the people needed it.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>There were certainly some Aramaic texts of of scripture that were available</v>

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<v Speaker 3>to them, but increasingly there were people who were Jews ethnically who</v>

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<v Speaker 3>in some cases may not have spoken Aramaic either.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>The r the translation of Scripture and the Septuagint into Greek was</v>

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<v Speaker 3>also for accessibility.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>And so by the first century when Jesus was born and the</v>

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<v Speaker 3>disciples were alive and were writing and speaking, they were, as Corey</v>

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<v Speaker 3>said, none of virtually none of them would have been conversant in</v>

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<v Speaker 3>Hebrew at all.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>'Cause it would have been no point.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>For someone to be speaking Hebrew would be identical to someone today</v>

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<v Speaker 3>speaking maybe Latin or Old English.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>You know, it's a dead language that isn't used at all.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>So it's a party trick.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>Maybe you can have an interesting conversation where you teach someone something,</v>

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<v Speaker 3>but you can't converse.</v>

00:39:53.280 --> 00:39:56.000
<v Speaker 3>It's not a language of commerce.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>The The languages that were used were Greek, Latin, and Aramaic, and</v>

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<v Speaker 3>that's reflected at Christ's crucifixion.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>In</v>

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<v Speaker 3>John nineteen, Pilate also wrote an inscription and put it on the</v>

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<v Speaker 3>cross. It read Jesus of Nazareth, the King of the Jews.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>May of the Jews read this inscription for the place where Jesus</v>

00:40:14.720 --> 00:40:17.920
<v Speaker 3>was crucified was near the city, and it was written in Aramaic</v>

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<v Speaker 3>and Latin and in Greek.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>It was not written incidentally in Hebrew, 'cause there would have been</v>

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<v Speaker 3>no point.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>It wasn't they ran out of room.</v>

00:40:24.560 --> 00:40:27.600
<v Speaker 3>It was if they put Hebrew above Christ's head, no one would</v>

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<v Speaker 3>have been able to read it.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>That's a big deal.</v>

00:40:30.480 --> 00:40:32.080
<v Speaker 3>Like it's a small detail.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>I I don't think it's like some huge profound interest.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>But oh by the way, did you know that no one who</v>

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<v Speaker 3>is speaking Hebrew in Jesus Day?</v>

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<v Speaker 3>Most people probably don't know that.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>Please go look this stuff up.</v>

00:40:42.800 --> 00:40:46.880
<v Speaker 3>I can tell you, you can spend hours just on Wikipedia going</v>

00:40:46.960 --> 00:40:52.400
<v Speaker 3>through the various articles about the language of Jesus on Aramaic, on</v>

00:40:52.400 --> 00:40:56.560
<v Speaker 3>Proto Hebrew, go do some reading and you know, go do some</v>

00:40:56.560 --> 00:40:59.520
<v Speaker 3>wiki holding where you dig down and dig through.</v>

00:40:59.520 --> 00:41:03.680
<v Speaker 3>You will find some places where some of the articles disagree, usually</v>

00:41:03.680 --> 00:41:07.760
<v Speaker 3>around some of these sensitive areas that we're talking about directly.</v>

00:41:07.760 --> 00:41:11.680
<v Speaker 3>Where they disagree th I would give the benefit of the doubt</v>

00:41:11.680 --> 00:41:16.480
<v Speaker 3>to the version that's less friendly to the modern narrative, to the</v>

00:41:16.480 --> 00:41:20.880
<v Speaker 3>idea everyone from Adam to Jesus just spoke Hebrew and wrote in</v>

00:41:20.880 --> 00:41:22.960
<v Speaker 3>Hebrew because that was the universal language.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>No. These Semitic languages were basically a dead end.</v>

00:41:26.880 --> 00:41:28.720
<v Speaker 3>They're pretty primitive languages.</v>

00:41:28.720 --> 00:41:33.440
<v Speaker 3>They're not remotely as sophisticated as something like Greek or Latin.</v>

00:41:33.440 --> 00:41:36.480
<v Speaker 3>And nothing almost nothing is really downstream from 'em.</v>

00:41:36.480 --> 00:41:40.880
<v Speaker 3>Like they they ran their course and then the civilizations went away,</v>

00:41:40.880 --> 00:41:42.400
<v Speaker 3>and the languages went away.</v>

00:41:42.400 --> 00:41:45.680
<v Speaker 3>So there was nothing that they contributed to later.</v>

00:41:45.680 --> 00:41:48.480
<v Speaker 3>That's not the case with the languages we're speaking today.</v>

00:41:48.480 --> 00:41:53.360
<v Speaker 3>English has had tributaries from many other languages, and they're languages of</v>

00:41:53.280 --> 00:41:53.840
<v Speaker 3>the winners.</v>

00:41:54.000 --> 00:41:56.160
<v Speaker 3>Hebrew is not a language of the winners.</v>

00:41:56.160 --> 00:41:59.760
<v Speaker 3>It's a language of the conquered and of the losers.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>It's worth putting special emphasis on the term that was actually on</v>

00:42:05.120 --> 00:42:08.880
<v Speaker 2>the cross what Pilate actually put on the cross and that was</v>

00:42:08.880 --> 00:42:15.680
<v Speaker 2>Yesus Nazarenus Rex Yudaiorum that last word Yudorum is Judeans.</v>

00:42:15.680 --> 00:42:20.720
<v Speaker 2>That's the word from which we get Jews, as previously mentioned in</v>

00:42:20.720 --> 00:42:25.360
<v Speaker 2>English. We ultimately derive it from the Latin.</v>

00:42:25.360 --> 00:42:27.440
<v Speaker 2>It's a demonym, basically.</v>

00:42:27.440 --> 00:42:30.800
<v Speaker 2>It is a term related to the people of a particular place.</v>

00:42:30.800 --> 00:42:34.240
<v Speaker 2>That's how the Romans named that's how the Romans named everyone they</v>

00:42:34.240 --> 00:42:38.400
<v Speaker 2>encountered was according to the land where they found them.</v>

00:42:38.400 --> 00:42:40.560
<v Speaker 2>And so that's where we get this term.</v>

00:42:40.560 --> 00:42:44.400
<v Speaker 2>It's not even the word Jew isn't even in scripture in the</v>

00:42:44.400 --> 00:42:45.520
<v Speaker 2>original languages.</v>

00:42:45.520 --> 00:42:48.960
<v Speaker 2>That's the term that we use in English.</v>

00:42:48.960 --> 00:42:51.840
<v Speaker 2>Because in Scripture, it's Judean.</v>

00:42:51.840 --> 00:42:56.080
<v Speaker 2>And as we mentioned the history, these are some of the tribes</v>

00:42:56.400 --> 00:42:58.400
<v Speaker 2>descended from Israel.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>On the subject of terms, I think it's important to note that</v>

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<v Speaker 3>this is the one of the key places, particularly in scripture and</v>

00:43:05.760 --> 00:43:10.800
<v Speaker 3>in conversation, where Hebrew ceases to mean the same thing.</v>

00:43:10.880 --> 00:43:16.320
<v Speaker 3>So the the key example for this is John nineteen seventeen.</v>

00:43:16.320 --> 00:43:19.440
<v Speaker 3>In the ESV it says and he went out, bearing his own</v>

00:43:19.440 --> 00:43:22.560
<v Speaker 3>cross to the place called the place of the skull, which in</v>

00:43:22.560 --> 00:43:25.040
<v Speaker 3>Aramaic is called Golgotha.</v>

00:43:25.040 --> 00:43:29.120
<v Speaker 3>Now if you're a King James reader, you know that is and</v>

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<v Speaker 3>he bearing his cross went forth into the place called the place</v>

00:43:32.240 --> 00:43:35.680
<v Speaker 3>of the skull which is called in Hebrew Golgotha.</v>

00:43:35.680 --> 00:43:39.680
<v Speaker 3>Now one of those is wrong because Hebrew and Aramaic are two</v>

00:43:39.680 --> 00:43:41.120
<v Speaker 3>different languages.</v>

00:43:41.120 --> 00:43:44.800
<v Speaker 3>I think it's notable that in many of the cases in Scripture</v>

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<v Speaker 3>in the New Testament, when Jesus is quoted, when he says things</v>

00:43:49.040 --> 00:43:54.800
<v Speaker 3>like Abba Father or Eloy, Eloi, Lama Saba Kfani, he's speaking Aramaic.</v>

00:43:54.800 --> 00:43:57.280
<v Speaker 3>And growing up, no one ever taught me why.</v>

00:43:57.280 --> 00:44:00.000
<v Speaker 3>I thought, wow, why like why did he slip into some other</v>

00:44:00.000 --> 00:44:01.120
<v Speaker 3>language? It's Jesus.</v>

00:44:01.120 --> 00:44:01.680
<v Speaker 3>He's a Jew.</v>

00:44:02.160 --> 00:44:05.120
<v Speaker 3>he's why is this Hebrew guy talking Aramaic all of a sudden.</v>

00:44:05.120 --> 00:44:07.680
<v Speaker 3>Did like did he speak Aramaic when he got excited?</v>

00:44:07.680 --> 00:44:11.120
<v Speaker 3>No. He was always speaking Aramaic to those around him.</v>

00:44:11.120 --> 00:44:15.280
<v Speaker 3>He's these things were recorded and God through the Holy the Holy</v>

00:44:15.280 --> 00:44:19.840
<v Speaker 3>Spirit recorded these in the actual words that Jesus spoke, because there</v>

00:44:19.840 --> 00:44:22.400
<v Speaker 3>were the words he was speaking all the time, but</v>

00:44:23.520 --> 00:44:25.840
<v Speaker 3>they weren't translated even today.</v>

00:44:25.840 --> 00:44:30.240
<v Speaker 3>So we hear Abba and we hear Eloi instead of the translated</v>

00:44:30.240 --> 00:44:32.560
<v Speaker 3>word from the Aramaic.</v>

00:44:32.560 --> 00:44:35.600
<v Speaker 3>The reason that the King James gets this wrong, and yes, sorry</v>

00:44:35.680 --> 00:44:38.320
<v Speaker 3>guys, if you're a King James only, it gets a lot of</v>

00:44:38.320 --> 00:44:39.120
<v Speaker 3>things wrong.</v>

00:44:39.120 --> 00:44:41.120
<v Speaker 3>They're not hugely impactful.</v>

00:44:41.120 --> 00:44:42.720
<v Speaker 3>They did the best they could.</v>

00:44:42.720 --> 00:44:45.840
<v Speaker 3>If they had had more manuscripts, they would have translated a different</v>

00:44:45.840 --> 00:44:47.840
<v Speaker 3>Bible than the one they translated.</v>

00:44:47.840 --> 00:44:49.120
<v Speaker 3>It's useful.</v>

00:44:49.120 --> 00:44:50.880
<v Speaker 3>I think it's outlived its use.</v>

00:44:50.880 --> 00:44:53.120
<v Speaker 3>That's conversation for another day.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>The important thing is if you look in Greek in John 19:17,</v>

00:44:58.000 --> 00:45:04.080
<v Speaker 3>the word that King James translates in Hebrew is Hebraisty.</v>

00:45:04.080 --> 00:45:09.120
<v Speaker 3>The problem here is that Hebrew means one of two things.</v>

00:45:09.120 --> 00:45:13.360
<v Speaker 3>Either Hebrew language means the Hebrew language, as you would say the</v>

00:45:13.360 --> 00:45:14.080
<v Speaker 3>English language.</v>

00:45:14.080 --> 00:45:17.600
<v Speaker 3>You know, when when I say English language, you know that I</v>

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<v Speaker 3>don't mean an Englishman.</v>

00:45:19.280 --> 00:45:20.800
<v Speaker 3>And see, that's the distinction.</v>

00:45:21.040 --> 00:45:24.560
<v Speaker 3>It could be the language of the Hebrew people, as in the</v>

00:45:24.560 --> 00:45:29.760
<v Speaker 3>language of the English people, or it could be the specific language.</v>

00:45:29.760 --> 00:45:36.480
<v Speaker 3>Now the distinction is that in Judah, in Judea, they were the</v>

00:45:36.480 --> 00:45:41.360
<v Speaker 3>Hebrew people, and so whatever language they were speaking in Judea was</v>

00:45:41.360 --> 00:45:44.560
<v Speaker 3>the Hebrew language because they were the Hebrew people.</v>

00:45:44.560 --> 00:45:48.400
<v Speaker 3>The I hope making this clear, but the Hebrew language of the</v>

00:45:48.400 --> 00:45:50.960
<v Speaker 3>Judean people was Aramaic.</v>

00:45:50.960 --> 00:45:53.680
<v Speaker 3>When it says the Hebrew language, it doesn't mean they were speaking</v>

00:45:53.680 --> 00:45:59.440
<v Speaker 3>Hebrew. It means the Hebrews were speaking their language, which was Aramaic.</v>

00:45:59.520 --> 00:46:03.200
<v Speaker 3>And this is something that Josephus, who was the famous historian from</v>

00:46:03.200 --> 00:46:05.760
<v Speaker 3>the first century AD, he said himself.</v>

00:46:05.760 --> 00:46:08.400
<v Speaker 3>He was a Jew, he was he was well connected, he was</v>

00:46:08.400 --> 00:46:12.480
<v Speaker 3>well favored, he is viewed by Jews today as a traitor.</v>

00:46:12.720 --> 00:46:16.480
<v Speaker 3>For 1900 years they wouldn't translate anything he would said because they</v>

00:46:16.480 --> 00:46:21.360
<v Speaker 3>were so angry at him for siding with the Romans.</v>

00:46:21.360 --> 00:46:25.920
<v Speaker 3>Josephus differentiated Hebrew from his language and that of the first century</v>

00:46:25.920 --> 00:46:30.080
<v Speaker 3>Israel. He refers to Hebrew words as belonging to the Hebrew tongue,</v>

00:46:30.080 --> 00:46:34.640
<v Speaker 3>but refers to Aramaic words as belonging to our tongue, or our</v>

00:46:34.640 --> 00:46:37.280
<v Speaker 3>language, or the language of our country.</v>

00:46:37.280 --> 00:46:42.160
<v Speaker 3>So when Josephus, the Hebrew, the Jew of the first century, refers</v>

00:46:42.160 --> 00:46:46.800
<v Speaker 3>to his language in the possessive, he always refers to Aramaic.</v>

00:46:46.800 --> 00:46:51.120
<v Speaker 3>He never refers to Hebrew as in the Hebrew that was spoken</v>

00:46:51.120 --> 00:46:54.560
<v Speaker 3>by Moses, or the Hebrew that was spoken in eight hundred BC,</v>

00:46:54.560 --> 00:46:56.000
<v Speaker 3>because nobody spoke it anymore.</v>

00:46:56.000 --> 00:46:57.200
<v Speaker 3>He was very well educated.</v>

00:46:57.520 --> 00:47:00.560
<v Speaker 3>he may have known it, perhaps, because he was so well educated,</v>

00:47:00.560 --> 00:47:03.440
<v Speaker 3>but again, it would have been an academic exercise and not a</v>

00:47:03.440 --> 00:47:04.480
<v Speaker 3>social one.</v>

00:47:04.880 --> 00:47:05.200
<v Speaker 3>And</v>

00:47:06.080 --> 00:47:10.080
<v Speaker 3>this is also borne out as we find texts, for example, from</v>

00:47:10.080 --> 00:47:12.800
<v Speaker 3>the Qumran Caves and other places.</v>

00:47:12.800 --> 00:47:17.840
<v Speaker 3>When we find texts, if it's using what we see today as</v>

00:47:17.840 --> 00:47:23.360
<v Speaker 3>the what we call the Hebrew alphabet, it's always written in Aramaic.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>There's nothing written in Hebrew in what we call the Hebrew language</v>

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<v Speaker 3>or the Hebrew alphabet today.</v>

00:47:29.280 --> 00:47:32.080
<v Speaker 3>I realize some of this is probably getting confusing because that that's</v>

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<v Speaker 3>the point of discussing it.</v>

00:47:33.040 --> 00:47:36.400
<v Speaker 3>The same word is used t in different contexts to mean different</v>

00:47:36.400 --> 00:47:41.600
<v Speaker 3>things and while that's not necessarily duplicitous, it's very easy to get</v>

00:47:41.600 --> 00:47:45.200
<v Speaker 3>lazy or to get sloppy and then to make errors that downstream</v>

00:47:45.200 --> 00:47:46.800
<v Speaker 3>have serious problems.</v>

00:47:46.800 --> 00:47:50.000
<v Speaker 3>Because when you look in a place like the Qumran Cave and</v>

00:47:50.000 --> 00:47:53.520
<v Speaker 3>you don't find much, if any Hebrew, there's a little bit in</v>

00:47:53.520 --> 00:47:55.280
<v Speaker 3>there, but I think it's some of the the newer stuff.</v>

00:47:56.160 --> 00:47:58.080
<v Speaker 3>It's important because this was an archive.</v>

00:47:58.080 --> 00:48:01.600
<v Speaker 3>Like this was I think today when we think, oh, well, you</v>

00:48:01.600 --> 00:48:04.880
<v Speaker 3>found something in one language and something in in another language, you</v>

00:48:04.880 --> 00:48:07.040
<v Speaker 3>probably have hundreds of books in your homes.</v>

00:48:07.040 --> 00:48:11.040
<v Speaker 3>Most people listening easily have many dozens, probably hundreds of books in</v>

00:48:11.040 --> 00:48:11.760
<v Speaker 3>your home.</v>

00:48:11.760 --> 00:48:15.120
<v Speaker 3>The threshold for writing something down today for s putting something on</v>

00:48:15.120 --> 00:48:17.120
<v Speaker 3>paper is basically zero.</v>

00:48:17.120 --> 00:48:20.240
<v Speaker 3>I have probably eight hundred books in my house.</v>

00:48:20.240 --> 00:48:21.440
<v Speaker 3>A lot of them are crap.</v>

00:48:21.440 --> 00:48:23.040
<v Speaker 3>They were things that didn't need to be put down on paper.</v>

00:48:23.840 --> 00:48:26.000
<v Speaker 3>That wasn't the case two thousand years ago.</v>

00:48:26.000 --> 00:48:30.800
<v Speaker 3>It was so incredibly expensive to record anything that for something to</v>

00:48:30.800 --> 00:48:34.800
<v Speaker 3>be written down, whether on parchment or on papyrus, meant that it</v>

00:48:34.880 --> 00:48:36.640
<v Speaker 3>was profoundly important.</v>

00:48:36.640 --> 00:48:39.520
<v Speaker 3>And so the preponderance of the evidence when you're looking at whatever</v>

00:48:39.520 --> 00:48:42.800
<v Speaker 3>was written tells you about the languages that they spoke.</v>

00:48:42.800 --> 00:48:46.240
<v Speaker 3>If no one was speaking what we call Hebrew, then you're not</v>

00:48:46.240 --> 00:48:47.600
<v Speaker 3>going to find much, if any, of it.</v>

00:48:47.600 --> 00:48:48.560
<v Speaker 3>And that's what we find.</v>

00:48:48.560 --> 00:48:51.200
<v Speaker 3>We find Aramaic in some of the other languages we do not</v>

00:48:51.200 --> 00:48:53.760
<v Speaker 3>find what is called Hebrew today.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>And it seems like this is somewhat confusing perhaps, but we really</v>

00:48:58.240 --> 00:49:00.720
<v Speaker 2>have the same thing in English.</v>

00:49:00.720 --> 00:49:03.520
<v Speaker 2>Typically a German will speak German.</v>

00:49:04.240 --> 00:49:08.800
<v Speaker 2>Exact same noun, used in two very different ways.</v>

00:49:08.800 --> 00:49:11.360
<v Speaker 2>The English speak English.</v>

00:49:11.360 --> 00:49:14.720
<v Speaker 2>However, Americans speak English.</v>

00:49:15.200 --> 00:49:20.080
<v Speaker 2>And perhaps one of the best examples, the Belgians, who live in</v>

00:49:20.080 --> 00:49:22.960
<v Speaker 2>Belgium, don't speak Belgian.</v>

00:49:22.960 --> 00:49:25.600
<v Speaker 2>They speak Dutch, French, and German.</v>

00:49:26.640 --> 00:49:31.920
<v Speaker 2>So just because a term has multiple different meanings doesn't mean that</v>

00:49:31.920 --> 00:49:33.840
<v Speaker 2>the meanings are identical.</v>

00:49:33.840 --> 00:49:36.400
<v Speaker 2>Doesn't mean the term is always used in the same way.</v>

00:49:36.400 --> 00:49:40.240
<v Speaker 2>And scripture also doesn't always record the language of the of the</v>

00:49:40.240 --> 00:49:42.400
<v Speaker 2>original interactions.</v>

00:49:42.400 --> 00:49:45.280
<v Speaker 2>So it is worth noting, Christ knew Greek.</v>

00:49:45.280 --> 00:49:50.480
<v Speaker 2>He probably used Greek a lot in his ministry, because do remember</v>

00:49:50.640 --> 00:49:55.280
<v Speaker 2>he was ministering at times in the vicinity vicinity</v>

00:49:56.160 --> 00:49:58.960
<v Speaker 2>of Greek speaking cities.</v>

00:49:58.960 --> 00:50:02.400
<v Speaker 2>He would probably have used Greek to speak to those people because</v>

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<v Speaker 2>many of them probably were not particularly good at Aramaic.</v>

00:50:06.160 --> 00:50:10.240
<v Speaker 2>They were, in some cases, Greeks who had moved from Greece to</v>

00:50:10.240 --> 00:50:15.440
<v Speaker 2>these Greek colonies, or had moved to Roman colonies.</v>

00:50:15.440 --> 00:50:18.160
<v Speaker 2>Perhaps they were from somewhere else in the Roman Empire, but the</v>

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<v Speaker 2>language of everyday life in the Roman Empire at that time was</v>

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<v Speaker 2>Greek. Yes, that seems confusing as well, but the Romans used Greek</v>

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<v Speaker 2>because some of the peoples they had conquered, in particular the Greeks,</v>

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<v Speaker 2>spoke Greek.</v>

00:50:34.080 --> 00:50:38.080
<v Speaker 2>It was an easy language to use for everyday interactions, for commerce</v>

00:50:38.160 --> 00:50:40.960
<v Speaker 2>and all the things you need to run everyday life in an</v>

00:50:40.960 --> 00:50:44.880
<v Speaker 2>empire. Latin was still the language of the empire at the higher</v>

00:50:44.880 --> 00:50:48.640
<v Speaker 2>level, so in the Senate, the laws and things like that, but</v>

00:50:48.640 --> 00:50:50.160
<v Speaker 2>they spoke Greek.</v>

00:50:50.160 --> 00:50:55.760
<v Speaker 2>And so Christ again would also have used Greek.</v>

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And this

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<v Speaker 3>is something that's made very clear in the New Testament itself.</v>

00:50:59.600 --> 00:51:03.760
<v Speaker 3>As we all know, New Testament quotes the Old Testament over and</v>

00:51:03.760 --> 00:51:04.880
<v Speaker 3>over and over again.</v>

00:51:04.880 --> 00:51:07.840
<v Speaker 3>You can find numerous web pages that show all the connections of</v>

00:51:07.840 --> 00:51:11.600
<v Speaker 3>direct quotes of the New Testament quoting the Old Testament.</v>

00:51:11.600 --> 00:51:15.200
<v Speaker 3>The reason that's important is that many, I I think perhaps the</v>

00:51:15.200 --> 00:51:17.200
<v Speaker 3>majority, you can correct me if I'm wrong, if you know off</v>

00:51:17.200 --> 00:51:19.200
<v Speaker 3>the top of your head, but I think the majority of the</v>

00:51:19.200 --> 00:51:23.840
<v Speaker 3>quotes of the Old Testament in the New Testament quote the Septuagint,</v>

00:51:23.840 --> 00:51:24.880
<v Speaker 3>they quote the Greek.</v>

00:51:24.880 --> 00:51:27.680
<v Speaker 3>Now it's not that it's two different Bibles, it's just that they're</v>

00:51:27.680 --> 00:51:31.040
<v Speaker 3>different ways of phrasing things and perhaps different word order that would</v>

00:51:31.040 --> 00:51:35.520
<v Speaker 3>be preserved differently in Aramaic or Hebrew versus Greek.</v>

00:51:35.520 --> 00:51:39.520
<v Speaker 3>And so we know that that the writers of the New Testament,</v>

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<v Speaker 3>that the men who are recorded as speaking, spoke Greek because they</v>

00:51:43.520 --> 00:51:45.680
<v Speaker 3>quote scripture in Greek.</v>

00:51:45.680 --> 00:51:50.640
<v Speaker 3>They frequently quote the Septuagint, not exclusively, which is important, as we</v>

00:51:50.640 --> 00:51:55.440
<v Speaker 3>said earlier, I don't reject one over the other because scripture doesn't,</v>

00:51:55.440 --> 00:51:58.160
<v Speaker 3>so I'm not going to do something that God didn't do.</v>

00:51:58.160 --> 00:52:02.560
<v Speaker 3>But it's important to know that Greek is frequently used in as</v>

00:52:02.560 --> 00:52:05.280
<v Speaker 3>the reference of the Old Testament in the New.</v>

00:52:05.280 --> 00:52:06.400
<v Speaker 3>That is substantial.</v>

00:52:06.400 --> 00:52:07.360
<v Speaker 3>That's important.</v>

00:52:07.360 --> 00:52:10.160
<v Speaker 3>And it's something that you don't you don't hear very much unless</v>

00:52:10.160 --> 00:52:13.680
<v Speaker 3>you actually get into these fiddly arguments about which one is better.</v>

00:52:13.680 --> 00:52:16.560
<v Speaker 3>We're not trying to make the argument for which one is better.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>I personally I I wish that Hebrew no longer existed.</v>

00:52:19.760 --> 00:52:21.520
<v Speaker 3>I think it's doing more harm than good.</v>

00:52:21.520 --> 00:52:23.360
<v Speaker 3>It's not an argument I'm gonna make here.</v>

00:52:23.360 --> 00:52:28.240
<v Speaker 3>It's simply important to note that Greek is what Jesus spoke, it's</v>

00:52:28.240 --> 00:52:30.000
<v Speaker 3>what Paul spoke, they all spoke it.</v>

00:52:30.000 --> 00:52:31.440
<v Speaker 3>They spoke other languages too.</v>

00:52:31.440 --> 00:52:32.960
<v Speaker 3>They're not like the average American.</v>

00:52:32.960 --> 00:52:35.120
<v Speaker 3>They could hold more than one language in their head.</v>

00:52:35.120 --> 00:52:37.120
<v Speaker 3>And they did so on a daily basis.</v>

00:52:37.120 --> 00:52:40.480
<v Speaker 3>And so when scripture quotes scripture from the new to the old</v>

00:52:40.480 --> 00:52:45.040
<v Speaker 3>the old, it frequently quotes Scripture, God in Greek</v>

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For

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<v Speaker 2>the percentage of quotes that come from the Septuagint versus other translations,</v>

00:52:52.400 --> 00:52:56.720
<v Speaker 2>it would depend on whether you're counting direct or also indirect and</v>

00:52:56.720 --> 00:52:59.600
<v Speaker 2>indirect starts to get difficult because there are a lot of those.</v>

00:52:59.600 --> 00:53:04.720
<v Speaker 2>I believe the the standard number as it were for direct quotations</v>

00:53:04.720 --> 00:53:08.240
<v Speaker 2>from the Old Testament is 283.</v>

00:53:08.240 --> 00:53:13.360
<v Speaker 2>And 170 of those are essentially from the Septuagint.</v>

00:53:13.360 --> 00:53:15.200
<v Speaker 2>So 60%.</v>

00:53:15.200 --> 00:53:19.440
<v Speaker 2>So yes, the majority of the quotations that are direct quotations from</v>

00:53:19.760 --> 00:53:24.960
<v Speaker 2>the Old Testament in the New Testament are from the Greek.</v>

00:53:24.960 --> 00:53:30.720
<v Speaker 2>But just to emphasize what I said about scripture not always recording</v>

00:53:30.720 --> 00:53:35.680
<v Speaker 2>the original language in which something took place, in what language did</v>

00:53:35.680 --> 00:53:37.840
<v Speaker 2>Moses interact with Pharaoh?</v>

00:53:37.840 --> 00:53:39.760
<v Speaker 2>Well scripture doesn't tell us.</v>

00:53:39.760 --> 00:53:44.640
<v Speaker 2>It was probably Egyptian, because he was educated in Pharaoh's household, he</v>

00:53:44.640 --> 00:53:47.840
<v Speaker 2>spoke Egyptian, it would have made sense for him to deal in</v>

00:53:47.840 --> 00:53:52.080
<v Speaker 2>the language of the Egyptian court when he was dealing with the</v>

00:53:52.080 --> 00:53:53.920
<v Speaker 2>Egyptian court.</v>

00:53:53.920 --> 00:53:57.600
<v Speaker 2>Scripture doesn't tell us that, but from context we can of course</v>

00:53:57.680 --> 00:54:01.280
<v Speaker 2>infer that as a reasonable conclusion.</v>

00:54:01.280 --> 00:54:05.360
<v Speaker 2>Another thing that we can infer as a reasonable conclusion</v>

00:54:06.400 --> 00:54:09.360
<v Speaker 2>from the New Testament, from what it actually tells us, when it</v>

00:54:09.360 --> 00:54:13.680
<v Speaker 2>does tell us the language of the original, when Christ is speaking</v>

00:54:13.680 --> 00:54:17.680
<v Speaker 2>Aramaic, in the cases where he is in Scripture, we are told</v>

00:54:17.680 --> 00:54:21.120
<v Speaker 2>specifically that this was in Aramaic.</v>

00:54:21.120 --> 00:54:23.840
<v Speaker 2>Well that implies he was not always using Aramaic.</v>

00:54:23.840 --> 00:54:26.640
<v Speaker 2>He may have been using Greek Using Greek more than Aramaic, in</v>

00:54:26.640 --> 00:54:31.760
<v Speaker 2>fact, because it is specifically noted when he used Aramaic.</v>

00:54:31.760 --> 00:54:34.560
<v Speaker 2>Now you don't have to necessarily draw that conclusion.</v>

00:54:34.560 --> 00:54:36.640
<v Speaker 2>I'm not saying this is a tenet of the faith, and you</v>

00:54:36.640 --> 00:54:40.560
<v Speaker 2>absolutely have to believe Christ spent most of his time speaking Koina</v>

00:54:40.800 --> 00:54:43.120
<v Speaker 2>Greek. I'm not saying that.</v>

00:54:43.120 --> 00:54:47.200
<v Speaker 2>But it is a reasonable inference to draw from what Scripture does</v>

00:54:47.200 --> 00:54:48.560
<v Speaker 2>tell us.</v>

00:54:48.560 --> 00:54:50.720
<v Speaker 2>We know that he would have used Greek.</v>

00:54:50.720 --> 00:54:53.680
<v Speaker 2>He lived in an area that spoke Greek.</v>

00:54:53.680 --> 00:54:56.320
<v Speaker 2>He lived around people who spoke Greek.</v>

00:54:56.320 --> 00:54:58.320
<v Speaker 2>He dealt with people who spoke Greek.</v>

00:54:58.320 --> 00:55:00.160
<v Speaker 2>He undoubtedly used Greek.</v>

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And

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<v Speaker 3>the last point to Hammer Home is that the reason that was</v>

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<v Speaker 3>happening is that nobody spoke Hebrew.</v>

00:55:05.120 --> 00:55:06.960
<v Speaker 3>Nobody spoke Hebrew.</v>

00:55:06.960 --> 00:55:10.400
<v Speaker 3>It may have been done ceremonially in the in the temple, that's</v>

00:55:10.400 --> 00:55:13.840
<v Speaker 3>likely. It may be that a few of the educated men, including</v>

00:55:13.840 --> 00:55:16.320
<v Speaker 3>probably Christ himself, because he was educated in the temple in the</v>

00:55:16.320 --> 00:55:23.200
<v Speaker 3>temple would have been able to read the original Hebrew language actual</v>

00:55:23.200 --> 00:55:29.280
<v Speaker 3>Hebrew alphabet scrolls, but they had to be translated because apart from</v>

00:55:29.280 --> 00:55:32.400
<v Speaker 3>the few experts, nobody else knew it.</v>

00:55:32.400 --> 00:55:35.040
<v Speaker 3>And yes, this is a small point.</v>

00:55:35.040 --> 00:55:37.920
<v Speaker 3>This isn't this isn't earth shattering.</v>

00:55:37.920 --> 00:55:41.840
<v Speaker 3>But it's really interesting that most people don't know this.</v>

00:55:41.840 --> 00:55:46.720
<v Speaker 3>Because again, you see the what's called the Hebrew language smacked on</v>

00:55:46.720 --> 00:55:47.680
<v Speaker 3>everything today.</v>

00:55:47.680 --> 00:55:49.520
<v Speaker 3>And it's like, oh, that's the Bible language.</v>

00:55:49.520 --> 00:55:50.880
<v Speaker 3>That's the language of Jesus.</v>

00:55:50.880 --> 00:55:52.320
<v Speaker 3>That's what we automatically think.</v>

00:55:52.320 --> 00:55:54.960
<v Speaker 3>I thought that until a couple of years ago when I learned</v>

00:55:54.960 --> 00:55:55.440
<v Speaker 3>about this.</v>

00:55:55.520 --> 00:55:56.560
<v Speaker 3>like what's going on?</v>

00:55:56.720 --> 00:55:59.040
<v Speaker 3>Like, why didn't someone just tell me the truth?</v>

00:55:59.040 --> 00:56:03.600
<v Speaker 3>What's the difference between the true version and the made up version?</v>

00:56:03.600 --> 00:56:07.200
<v Speaker 3>Well, there are things downstream for the made up version that turned</v>

00:56:07.200 --> 00:56:08.800
<v Speaker 3>out not to be very good for Christians.</v>

00:56:08.800 --> 00:56:12.800
<v Speaker 3>I'll be in future episodes, but we're just making the case today</v>

00:56:12.800 --> 00:56:16.640
<v Speaker 3>that just know for a fact that Jesus was not running around</v>

00:56:16.640 --> 00:56:19.360
<v Speaker 3>talking Hebrew because no one would have understood him.</v>

00:56:19.360 --> 00:56:21.520
<v Speaker 3>The Hebrews didn't speak Hebrew.</v>

00:56:22.240 --> 00:56:23.440
<v Speaker 3>They were still Hebrew.</v>

00:56:23.440 --> 00:56:28.080
<v Speaker 3>They were still descended from Abraham, which is is one of the</v>

00:56:28.080 --> 00:56:30.720
<v Speaker 3>last things that we're going to get into here today.</v>

00:56:30.960 --> 00:56:34.240
<v Speaker 3>The we're going to conclude this just by reading a number of</v>

00:56:34.240 --> 00:56:35.280
<v Speaker 3>passages from the New Testament</v>

00:56:36.240 --> 00:56:40.160
<v Speaker 3>that specifically refute the claim that's very often made.</v>

00:56:40.160 --> 00:56:43.360
<v Speaker 3>It usually flares up around Easter during Holy Week.</v>

00:56:43.360 --> 00:56:48.800
<v Speaker 3>Usually by Good Friday there have been think pieces and people fretting,</v>

00:56:48.800 --> 00:56:53.040
<v Speaker 3>saying it's so anti Semitic for people to say that the Jews</v>

00:56:53.040 --> 00:56:54.240
<v Speaker 3>killed Christ.</v>

00:56:54.240 --> 00:56:58.720
<v Speaker 3>The Romans killed Christ, our sins killed Christ, anything killed Christ except</v>

00:56:58.720 --> 00:57:00.080
<v Speaker 3>for the Jews.</v>

00:57:01.040 --> 00:57:02.400
<v Speaker 3>It is true.</v>

00:57:02.400 --> 00:57:03.840
<v Speaker 3>Your sins killed Christ.</v>

00:57:03.840 --> 00:57:05.280
<v Speaker 3>My sins killed Christ.</v>

00:57:05.280 --> 00:57:08.640
<v Speaker 3>Jesus died on the cross for our sins.</v>

00:57:08.640 --> 00:57:14.000
<v Speaker 3>Saying how that happened does not diminish the soteriological aspect of it.</v>

00:57:14.000 --> 00:57:17.440
<v Speaker 3>So there's no point in making any argument about the facts that</v>

00:57:17.440 --> 00:57:22.560
<v Speaker 3>try to defend soteriology against men who don't dispute the soteriology.</v>

00:57:22.560 --> 00:57:23.840
<v Speaker 3>We know how we are saved.</v>

00:57:23.840 --> 00:57:25.680
<v Speaker 3>And we know why we need to be saved.</v>

00:57:25.680 --> 00:57:27.680
<v Speaker 3>We need to be saved from our own sin.</v>

00:57:27.680 --> 00:57:28.960
<v Speaker 3>God did that on the cross.</v>

00:57:29.200 --> 00:57:32.800
<v Speaker 3>God's sacrifice on the cross was for us, and it was our</v>

00:57:32.800 --> 00:57:34.720
<v Speaker 3>sins that caused it.</v>

00:57:34.720 --> 00:57:37.280
<v Speaker 3>Our sins are the ultimate cause.</v>

00:57:37.280 --> 00:57:43.040
<v Speaker 3>The penultimate cause was Was the Jews.</v>

00:57:43.040 --> 00:57:46.000
<v Speaker 3>The Jews who had been trying to kill Christ for three and</v>

00:57:46.000 --> 00:57:48.240
<v Speaker 3>a half years finally succeeded.</v>

00:57:48.240 --> 00:57:51.040
<v Speaker 3>And then the proximate cause was the Romans.</v>

00:57:51.040 --> 00:57:55.120
<v Speaker 3>Of course it was Pilate, Jesus suffered under Pontius Pilate, you know,</v>

00:57:55.120 --> 00:57:58.320
<v Speaker 3>that's his epitaph for eternity in the creeds.</v>

00:57:58.640 --> 00:58:00.240
<v Speaker 3>Talk about a legacy.</v>

00:58:00.240 --> 00:58:03.360
<v Speaker 3>The guy shows up briefly in history and he's known as the</v>

00:58:03.360 --> 00:58:05.920
<v Speaker 3>man who scourges the son of God.</v>

00:58:05.920 --> 00:58:12.320
<v Speaker 3>And yet his actions are less egregious than what the Jews did.</v>

00:58:12.320 --> 00:58:15.680
<v Speaker 3>And I can say that because that's literally what Jesus says.</v>

00:58:15.680 --> 00:58:18.640
<v Speaker 3>He says that those who turn me over to you have the</v>

00:58:18.640 --> 00:58:19.760
<v Speaker 3>greater sin.</v>

00:58:21.200 --> 00:58:23.680
<v Speaker 3>When God says that, we don't get to disagree.</v>

00:58:23.680 --> 00:58:28.400
<v Speaker 3>So when there are the hysterics around who killed Jesus, it is</v>

00:58:28.400 --> 00:58:29.040
<v Speaker 3>not lying.</v>

00:58:29.040 --> 00:58:31.440
<v Speaker 3>It's not lying to say if the Romans killed Christ, they crucified</v>

00:58:31.440 --> 00:58:32.080
<v Speaker 3>him. Why?</v>

00:58:32.080 --> 00:58:34.560
<v Speaker 3>Because they were the only ones with the legal authority to do</v>

00:58:34.560 --> 00:58:38.160
<v Speaker 3>so. The Jews had been trying to murder Christ for years.</v>

00:58:38.160 --> 00:58:40.320
<v Speaker 3>They had been trying to stone him, anything they could do to</v>

00:58:40.320 --> 00:58:40.960
<v Speaker 3>kill him.</v>

00:58:40.960 --> 00:58:45.360
<v Speaker 3>They finally got their ducks in a row politically and coerced Herod</v>

00:58:45.360 --> 00:58:47.680
<v Speaker 3>and Pontius Pilate into doing it for them.</v>

00:58:47.680 --> 00:58:50.480
<v Speaker 3>Not because they wouldn't have done it themselves, because they didn't have</v>

00:58:50.480 --> 00:58:52.720
<v Speaker 3>the legal authority to do it.</v>

00:58:52.720 --> 00:58:56.320
<v Speaker 3>And obviously Jesus was incarnate for our sins.</v>

00:58:56.320 --> 00:59:00.560
<v Speaker 3>It's not dismissing or minimizing or taking anything away from the fact</v>

00:59:00.560 --> 00:59:03.120
<v Speaker 3>that we are the reason that Christ had to die on the</v>

00:59:03.120 --> 00:59:04.000
<v Speaker 3>cross for us.</v>

00:59:04.000 --> 00:59:05.680
<v Speaker 3>It still matters who did it.</v>

00:59:05.680 --> 00:59:09.280
<v Speaker 3>And when you when the reason we're doing these episodes is that</v>

00:59:10.080 --> 00:59:11.040
<v Speaker 3>Christians have been</v>

00:59:11.920 --> 00:59:15.440
<v Speaker 3>put in this box where we're not allowed to speak as God</v>

00:59:15.440 --> 00:59:17.600
<v Speaker 3>speaks. And why?</v>

00:59:17.600 --> 00:59:21.120
<v Speaker 3>Because the Jews, to say the Jews, again, as I said the</v>

00:59:21.120 --> 00:59:25.600
<v Speaker 3>very beginning, maybe Makes people frightened, makes them nervous and scared, and</v>

00:59:25.600 --> 00:59:28.080
<v Speaker 3>they don't know what's going to happen next, but they know it's</v>

00:59:28.080 --> 00:59:29.600
<v Speaker 3>not going to be good.</v>

00:59:29.600 --> 00:59:32.240
<v Speaker 3>That is not the Christian response to anything.</v>

00:59:32.240 --> 00:59:35.600
<v Speaker 3>We should be fearless and we should be confident in our God</v>

00:59:35.680 --> 00:59:39.280
<v Speaker 3>and in the truth, and especially the truth as it's found in</v>

00:59:39.280 --> 00:59:43.200
<v Speaker 3>Scripture. And so these next passages we're gonna look at are specifically</v>

00:59:43.200 --> 00:59:46.480
<v Speaker 3>all the cases that we're just cherry picking some some of the</v>

00:59:46.480 --> 00:59:50.880
<v Speaker 3>myriad passages in the New Testament where it explicitly says that it</v>

00:59:50.880 --> 00:59:53.920
<v Speaker 3>was the Jews who were trying to kill Christ because when they</v>

00:59:53.920 --> 00:59:59.120
<v Speaker 3>ultimately succeeded in killing Christ, mission accomplished, you can't possibly look at</v>

00:59:59.120 --> 01:00:02.720
<v Speaker 3>all these passages and then get to the crucifixion and think, wow,</v>

01:00:02.720 --> 01:00:05.200
<v Speaker 3>I can't believe the Romans did that just out of nowhere.</v>

01:00:05.200 --> 01:00:06.800
<v Speaker 3>It's just it would be laughable.</v>

01:00:06.800 --> 01:00:10.080
<v Speaker 3>No Christian reading the Bible would ever reach that conclusion.</v>

01:00:10.080 --> 01:00:14.000
<v Speaker 3>And yet so many Christians and pastors reach that conclusion today.</v>

01:00:14.000 --> 01:00:18.560
<v Speaker 3>I've heard things that we're gonna read here refuted from pulpits, where</v>

01:00:18.560 --> 01:00:23.360
<v Speaker 3>pastors are afraid to attribute to the Jews, to the crowd, to</v>

01:00:23.360 --> 01:00:28.400
<v Speaker 3>the masses, to the group, that which scripture attributes to them</v>

01:00:29.360 --> 01:00:31.600
<v Speaker 3>So one of the first ones is the the very beginning of</v>

01:00:31.600 --> 01:00:35.440
<v Speaker 3>Matthew, at the at the beginning of Jesus' ministry.</v>

01:00:35.680 --> 01:00:39.120
<v Speaker 3>Interestingly, this is actually sorry, this is prior to his ministry, the</v>

01:00:39.120 --> 01:00:42.320
<v Speaker 3>very first time the Jew tried to kill him was Herod the</v>

01:00:42.320 --> 01:00:46.080
<v Speaker 3>Great. As soon as he was born, and and the news came,</v>

01:00:46.080 --> 01:00:48.640
<v Speaker 3>Herod the Great, who was a ruler, but he was also a</v>

01:00:48.640 --> 01:00:51.680
<v Speaker 3>Jew, said the angel of the Lord appeared to Joseph in a</v>

01:00:51.680 --> 01:00:54.320
<v Speaker 3>dream and said, Rise, take this child and his mother, and flee</v>

01:00:54.320 --> 01:00:56.160
<v Speaker 3>to Egypt, and remain there until I tell you.</v>

01:00:56.160 --> 01:00:58.640
<v Speaker 3>For Herod the Great is about to search for the child to</v>

01:00:58.640 --> 01:00:59.840
<v Speaker 3>destroy him.</v>

01:00:59.840 --> 01:01:04.800
<v Speaker 3>So literally Jesus' entire life on earth was bookended by Jews trying</v>

01:01:04.800 --> 01:01:06.000
<v Speaker 3>to kill him.</v>

01:01:06.000 --> 01:01:09.760
<v Speaker 3>And I think that's important because one of the conversations that frequently</v>

01:01:09.760 --> 01:01:13.440
<v Speaker 3>comes up is to try to shift the emphasis to the political.</v>

01:01:13.440 --> 01:01:15.920
<v Speaker 3>In Herod's case, it was undoubtedly political.</v>

01:01:15.920 --> 01:01:19.040
<v Speaker 3>All he knew was that someone was saying maybe some prophecy had</v>

01:01:19.040 --> 01:01:22.480
<v Speaker 3>been fulfilled and maybe some messiah or something is happening.</v>

01:01:22.480 --> 01:01:24.800
<v Speaker 3>I you know, he he knew the prophecies.</v>

01:01:24.800 --> 01:01:26.160
<v Speaker 3>He just didn't competition.</v>

01:01:26.160 --> 01:01:27.440
<v Speaker 3>He didn't want uprisings.</v>

01:01:27.440 --> 01:01:28.720
<v Speaker 3>He'd had enough of that.</v>

01:01:28.720 --> 01:01:32.640
<v Speaker 3>And so the easy thing was to go kill a few babies.</v>

01:01:32.640 --> 01:01:36.960
<v Speaker 3>Later on, when the Jews are chasing Jesus around trying to stone</v>

01:01:36.960 --> 01:01:40.400
<v Speaker 3>him repeatedly, it's not for political reasons.</v>

01:01:40.400 --> 01:01:41.840
<v Speaker 3>It's for blasphemy.</v>

01:01:41.840 --> 01:01:44.480
<v Speaker 3>It's for when he says he's the Son of God, that's when</v>

01:01:44.480 --> 01:01:45.760
<v Speaker 3>they try to kill him.</v>

01:01:45.760 --> 01:01:49.440
<v Speaker 3>And so when we finally get to the crucifixion on Good Friday</v>

01:01:49.680 --> 01:01:53.440
<v Speaker 3>and everyone wants to line up and say it was the Pharisees</v>

01:01:53.440 --> 01:01:56.800
<v Speaker 3>who were entirely responsible and it was because they were jealous of</v>

01:01:56.800 --> 01:01:59.920
<v Speaker 3>the power, it doesn't bear out when you actually look at the</v>

01:01:59.920 --> 01:02:02.480
<v Speaker 3>verses that lead up to that for three and a half years</v>

01:02:02.560 --> 01:02:04.080
<v Speaker 3>that say the complete opposite.</v>

01:02:04.480 --> 01:02:04.640
Now

01:02:04.720 --> 01:02:07.360
<v Speaker 2>of course that is not to deny that the Pharisees did in</v>

01:02:07.360 --> 01:02:09.280
<v Speaker 2>fact seek to destroy him.</v>

01:02:09.280 --> 01:02:13.680
<v Speaker 2>The point is that when pastors and others try to minimize the</v>

01:02:13.680 --> 01:02:17.520
<v Speaker 2>participation of the people, they are perverting scripture.</v>

01:02:17.520 --> 01:02:21.040
<v Speaker 2>And so this next one does say that the Pharisees were seeking</v>

01:02:21.040 --> 01:02:23.600
<v Speaker 2>to destroy him, Matthew twelve, fourteen.</v>

01:02:23.600 --> 01:02:27.680
<v Speaker 2>But the Pharisees went out and conspired against him how to destroy</v>

01:02:27.680 --> 01:02:31.680
<v Speaker 2>him. We should note the context of this, because this is what</v>

01:02:31.680 --> 01:02:34.240
<v Speaker 2>often happens in the pages of Scripture.</v>

01:02:34.240 --> 01:02:38.000
<v Speaker 2>Christ performs a miracle, and then the Jews seek to kill him</v>

01:02:38.160 --> 01:02:45.360
<v Speaker 2>because of the miracle or some extraneous matter related to the miracle.</v>

01:02:45.360 --> 01:02:48.160
<v Speaker 2>In this case, it is when Christ healed the man with the</v>

01:02:48.160 --> 01:02:49.120
<v Speaker 2>withered hand.</v>

01:02:49.120 --> 01:02:52.800
<v Speaker 2>Well he healed him on the Sabbath, and so the Pharisees decided</v>

01:02:52.800 --> 01:02:59.200
<v Speaker 2>that that was prohibited by Scripture related to the keeping of the</v>

01:02:59.200 --> 01:03:03.360
<v Speaker 2>Sabbath, the third commandment, and so they conspired to kill him.</v>

01:03:03.360 --> 01:03:06.160
<v Speaker 2>Of course they had other reasons as well.</v>

01:03:06.160 --> 01:03:11.120
<v Speaker 2>But Christ very clearly explained It is permissible to do good on</v>

01:03:11.120 --> 01:03:12.080
<v Speaker 2>the Sabbath.</v>

01:03:12.080 --> 01:03:14.880
<v Speaker 2>The point of this Sabbath is not to sit on your couch</v>

01:03:14.880 --> 01:03:16.400
<v Speaker 2>and stare at the ceiling.</v>

01:03:16.400 --> 01:03:19.840
<v Speaker 2>That's not what it means to keep the Sabbath, but that is</v>

01:03:19.840 --> 01:03:21.840
<v Speaker 2>a discussion for another time.</v>

01:03:22.000 --> 01:03:26.080
<v Speaker 3>The same thing played out when Jesus healed the blind man and</v>

01:03:26.080 --> 01:03:29.040
<v Speaker 3>told him to go and wash his eyes and when he when</v>

01:03:29.040 --> 01:03:32.080
<v Speaker 3>the people saw that he was healed, they became very upset.</v>

01:03:32.080 --> 01:03:35.680
<v Speaker 3>And there was a long scene there where they interrogate his parents,</v>

01:03:35.680 --> 01:03:40.400
<v Speaker 3>they interrogate all the witnesses, and they're angry that Jesus had healed</v>

01:03:40.400 --> 01:03:40.960
<v Speaker 3>a blind man</v>

01:03:41.840 --> 01:03:42.960
<v Speaker 3>on the Sabbath.</v>

01:03:42.960 --> 01:03:45.040
<v Speaker 3>They it infuriated them.</v>

01:03:45.040 --> 01:03:49.840
<v Speaker 3>And that's a particularly interesting one because in I think it's Isaiah</v>

01:03:49.920 --> 01:03:55.440
<v Speaker 3>37 and Isaiah 42, healing the blind is one of the prophecies</v>

01:03:56.640 --> 01:04:00.560
<v Speaker 3>of God, one of the prophecies pointing to the Messiah.</v>

01:04:00.560 --> 01:04:06.160
<v Speaker 3>And when the scene erupts where Jesus healed the blind man and</v>

01:04:06.800 --> 01:04:09.840
<v Speaker 3>people are exclaiming, one of them says this has never happened in</v>

01:04:09.840 --> 01:04:11.040
<v Speaker 3>the history of the world.</v>

01:04:11.040 --> 01:04:13.600
<v Speaker 3>So it wasn't that there had been other prophets in the past</v>

01:04:13.600 --> 01:04:14.960
<v Speaker 3>who had healed the blind.</v>

01:04:14.960 --> 01:04:16.880
<v Speaker 3>There have been other healings.</v>

01:04:16.880 --> 01:04:20.720
<v Speaker 3>But Jesus was the first to ever heal the blind.</v>

01:04:20.720 --> 01:04:25.280
<v Speaker 3>And that's profoundly important because it's a fulfillment of a messianic prophecy.</v>

01:04:25.280 --> 01:04:29.440
<v Speaker 3>And yet what was the concern of the Jews?</v>

01:04:29.440 --> 01:04:34.800
<v Speaker 3>Not that the the messianic prophecy had been fulfilled before their eyes,</v>

01:04:34.800 --> 01:04:38.480
<v Speaker 3>not that a miracle had occurred, but that some guy broke the</v>

01:04:38.480 --> 01:04:44.400
<v Speaker 3>rules, broke their rules as they interpreted them, which is crucial because</v>

01:04:44.400 --> 01:04:48.800
<v Speaker 3>their interpretations of the Sabbath, as Jesus makes clear in those passages,</v>

01:04:48.800 --> 01:04:50.320
<v Speaker 3>is not scriptural.</v>

01:04:50.320 --> 01:04:52.400
<v Speaker 3>It's not a godly interpretation.</v>

01:04:52.400 --> 01:04:55.440
<v Speaker 3>Jesus says if your ox falls in a ditch on the Sabbath,</v>

01:04:55.440 --> 01:04:56.480
<v Speaker 3>are you not going to get it out?</v>

01:04:56.640 --> 01:04:58.640
<v Speaker 3>Someone falls in a well, you're not going to get him out.</v>

01:04:58.640 --> 01:04:59.760
<v Speaker 3>Of course you are.</v>

01:04:59.760 --> 01:05:02.480
<v Speaker 3>Their definition of work was nonsense.</v>

01:05:02.480 --> 01:05:08.160
<v Speaker 3>And so Jesus demonstrates through acting justly and in a godly fashion,</v>

01:05:08.160 --> 01:05:13.200
<v Speaker 3>the hypocrisy and the evil of the Jews, who became incensed at</v>

01:05:13.200 --> 01:05:16.320
<v Speaker 3>this miracle, at this blessing, for for a man who'd been blind</v>

01:05:16.320 --> 01:05:17.120
<v Speaker 3>from birth.</v>

01:05:17.120 --> 01:05:19.440
<v Speaker 3>That was one of the questions they who sinned, this man or</v>

01:05:19.440 --> 01:05:20.480
<v Speaker 3>his parents?</v>

01:05:20.480 --> 01:05:24.400
<v Speaker 3>And the when the man was healed, suddenly they don't care about,</v>

01:05:24.400 --> 01:05:26.240
<v Speaker 3>you know, the the trick question.</v>

01:05:26.240 --> 01:05:28.640
<v Speaker 3>Now they care about the gotcha question.</v>

01:05:28.640 --> 01:05:31.680
<v Speaker 3>Because all that they ever wanted to do was to trip him</v>

01:05:31.680 --> 01:05:34.160
<v Speaker 3>up to destroy him.</v>

01:05:34.160 --> 01:05:36.880
<v Speaker 3>I don't think that any other people on the planet would have</v>

01:05:36.880 --> 01:05:37.840
<v Speaker 3>acted this way.</v>

01:05:38.080 --> 01:05:41.840
<v Speaker 3>If Jesus had come to the Japanese or to the Germans or</v>

01:05:41.840 --> 01:05:45.920
<v Speaker 3>to the Ugandans and started performing miracles and healing them, I don't</v>

01:05:45.840 --> 01:05:47.840
<v Speaker 3>think anyone else would have murdered him.</v>

01:05:47.840 --> 01:05:50.560
<v Speaker 3>I think part of the reason that Jesus was born a Jew</v>

01:05:50.560 --> 01:05:53.760
<v Speaker 3>among Jews was that no one else would behave in this way.</v>

01:05:53.760 --> 01:05:54.720
<v Speaker 3>That's speculative.</v>

01:05:54.720 --> 01:05:57.440
<v Speaker 3>Maybe I'm being unfair, but I sincerely believe it.</v>

01:05:57.440 --> 01:06:00.240
<v Speaker 3>I don't think anyone else who shows up and can heal the</v>

01:06:00.240 --> 01:06:03.760
<v Speaker 3>blind and the deaf and the lame is going to be murdered</v>

01:06:03.760 --> 01:06:05.840
<v Speaker 3>by people f for what?</v>

01:06:05.840 --> 01:06:07.760
<v Speaker 3>For fulfilling prophecy?</v>

01:06:07.760 --> 01:06:10.000
<v Speaker 3>Like they were told that these things would happen, and when they</v>

01:06:10.000 --> 01:06:11.920
<v Speaker 3>did, they became enraged.</v>

01:06:11.920 --> 01:06:14.880
<v Speaker 3>And in fact, they frequently said, You have a demon.</v>

01:06:14.880 --> 01:06:17.680
<v Speaker 3>One of the common refrains, I think it was in John, of</v>

01:06:17.680 --> 01:06:20.800
<v Speaker 3>the crowds of Jews to scream at Jesus is you have a</v>

01:06:20.800 --> 01:06:22.800
<v Speaker 3>demon. How could you say this?</v>

01:06:23.040 --> 01:06:28.000
<v Speaker 3>I think it's very profound in exemplifying the spiritual nature of the</v>

01:06:28.000 --> 01:06:29.520
<v Speaker 3>people to whom he was going.</v>

01:06:29.680 --> 01:06:31.680
<v Speaker 3>Now, obviously it wasn't all of them.</v>

01:06:31.680 --> 01:06:34.480
<v Speaker 3>There were followers, there were disciples who were Jews.</v>

01:06:34.480 --> 01:06:38.000
<v Speaker 3>Just like the others, the difference was that they believed.</v>

01:06:38.000 --> 01:06:40.960
<v Speaker 3>They believed in the promise of the Messiah, and when they saw</v>

01:06:40.960 --> 01:06:43.280
<v Speaker 3>the promises fulfilled, they rejoiced.</v>

01:06:43.280 --> 01:06:44.320
<v Speaker 3>That's the difference.</v>

01:06:44.880 --> 01:06:48.080
<v Speaker 3>It's not that all Jews are bad or that all Jews are</v>

01:06:48.080 --> 01:06:52.800
<v Speaker 3>saved. It's that when the promise of Scripture is fulfilled in Christ,</v>

01:06:52.800 --> 01:06:56.240
<v Speaker 3>those with faith, those who are elect will receive it with gladness,</v>

01:06:56.240 --> 01:06:58.880
<v Speaker 3>and the rest will shout he has a demon and try to</v>

01:06:58.880 --> 01:06:59.440
<v Speaker 3>kill him.</v>

01:06:59.440 --> 01:07:01.760
<v Speaker 3>And we see that sort of energy to this day.</v>

01:07:01.840 --> 01:07:02.000
And

01:07:02.000 --> 01:07:06.160
<v Speaker 2>yes, that is the same sort of accusation we see today.</v>

01:07:06.160 --> 01:07:10.240
<v Speaker 2>Freud did not get the idea of projection from nowhere.</v>

01:07:10.240 --> 01:07:10.960
<v Speaker 2>This is something</v>

01:07:12.000 --> 01:07:16.240
<v Speaker 2>that the Jews and Satan have been doing for a very long</v>

01:07:16.240 --> 01:07:18.320
<v Speaker 2>time. It is to accuse</v>

01:07:19.600 --> 01:07:22.720
<v Speaker 2>the enemy of exactly what you yourself are doing.</v>

01:07:22.720 --> 01:07:26.480
<v Speaker 2>This is Alinsky again as well, because all of this has the</v>

01:07:26.480 --> 01:07:28.320
<v Speaker 2>same father.</v>

01:07:28.320 --> 01:07:32.560
<v Speaker 2>And so that is why the Jews are flinging the accusation of</v>

01:07:32.560 --> 01:07:34.640
<v Speaker 2>you have a demon at Christ.</v>

01:07:34.640 --> 01:07:39.520
<v Speaker 2>Well, no, because the demon is on the other side, Satan's on</v>

01:07:39.520 --> 01:07:40.400
<v Speaker 2>the other side.</v>

01:07:40.400 --> 01:07:44.240
<v Speaker 2>Look at how many times Christ had to cast out demons during</v>

01:07:44.240 --> 01:07:46.080
<v Speaker 2>his ministry.</v>

01:07:46.080 --> 01:07:51.760
<v Speaker 2>There was a very real and active and widespread problem with possession</v>

01:07:51.760 --> 01:07:57.040
<v Speaker 2>and demon oppression in this part of the world at this time.</v>

01:07:57.040 --> 01:07:59.920
<v Speaker 2>And that's why they fling the accusation at Christ.</v>

01:07:59.920 --> 01:08:02.320
<v Speaker 2>Of course, it's also an insult they like to fling at the</v>

01:08:02.320 --> 01:08:05.440
<v Speaker 2>Samaritans, which is why at one point they accuse him of being</v>

01:08:05.440 --> 01:08:07.200
<v Speaker 2>a Samaritan and having a demon.</v>

01:08:07.200 --> 01:08:09.120
<v Speaker 2>Now there are other overtones there as well.</v>

01:08:09.120 --> 01:08:12.480
<v Speaker 2>They're trying to gin up an excuse to murder him, because a</v>

01:08:12.480 --> 01:08:15.440
<v Speaker 2>Samaritan was not allowed to be where he was located in the</v>

01:08:15.440 --> 01:08:17.760
<v Speaker 2>temple at the time.</v>

01:08:17.760 --> 01:08:22.240
<v Speaker 2>But that accusation of having a demon we see that all down</v>

01:08:22.240 --> 01:08:22.880
<v Speaker 2>through history.</v>

01:08:22.880 --> 01:08:25.120
<v Speaker 2>We see it here in the pages of scripture, and we see</v>

01:08:25.120 --> 01:08:28.960
<v Speaker 2>it today on social media and elsewhere.</v>

01:08:28.960 --> 01:08:34.240
<v Speaker 2>But the next reading we have is one of the most famous</v>

01:08:34.240 --> 01:08:38.640
<v Speaker 2>or infamous, of course, and that's the crowd in Pilate's Courtyard.</v>

01:08:38.640 --> 01:08:40.640
<v Speaker 2>I'll just read the whole section.</v>

01:08:41.280 --> 01:08:44.160
<v Speaker 2>Now at the feast the governor was accustomed to release for the</v>

01:08:44.160 --> 01:08:47.920
<v Speaker 2>crowd any one prisoner whom they wanted, and they had then a</v>

01:08:47.920 --> 01:08:50.160
<v Speaker 2>notorious prisoner called Barabbas.</v>

01:08:50.160 --> 01:08:53.520
<v Speaker 2>So when they had gathered, Pilate said to them, Whom do you</v>

01:08:53.520 --> 01:08:57.200
<v Speaker 2>want me to release for you, Barabbas, or Jesus who is called</v>

01:08:57.200 --> 01:09:00.480
<v Speaker 2>Christ? For he knew that it was out of envy that they</v>

01:09:00.480 --> 01:09:02.000
<v Speaker 2>had delivered him up.</v>

01:09:02.000 --> 01:09:05.360
<v Speaker 2>Besides, while he was sitting on the judgment seat, his wife sent</v>

01:09:05.360 --> 01:09:08.480
<v Speaker 2>word to him, have nothing to do with that righteous man, for</v>

01:09:08.480 --> 01:09:11.600
<v Speaker 2>I have suffered much because of him today in a dream.</v>

01:09:11.600 --> 01:09:14.640
<v Speaker 2>Now the chief priests and the elders persuaded the crowd to ask</v>

01:09:14.640 --> 01:09:17.120
<v Speaker 2>for Barabbas and destroy Jesus.</v>

01:09:17.120 --> 01:09:20.320
<v Speaker 2>The governor again said to them, Which of the two do you</v>

01:09:20.320 --> 01:09:21.680
<v Speaker 2>want me to release for you?</v>

01:09:21.680 --> 01:09:23.600
<v Speaker 2>And they said, Barabbas.</v>

01:09:23.600 --> 01:09:26.800
<v Speaker 2>Pilate said to them, Then what shall I do with Jesus who</v>

01:09:26.800 --> 01:09:28.000
<v Speaker 2>is called Christ?</v>

01:09:28.000 --> 01:09:30.720
<v Speaker 2>They all said, Let him be crucified.</v>

01:09:30.720 --> 01:09:34.000
<v Speaker 2>And he said, Why, what evil has he done?</v>

01:09:34.000 --> 01:09:40.000
<v Speaker 2>But they shouted all the more, let him be crucified.</v>

01:09:40.000 --> 01:09:43.440
<v Speaker 2>It is not just the Pharisees, it is not just the leaders</v>

01:09:43.440 --> 01:09:47.840
<v Speaker 2>of the Jews who scream for Christ to be crucified, and we'll</v>

01:09:47.840 --> 01:09:51.840
<v Speaker 2>read another section that adds more to this as well.</v>

01:09:51.840 --> 01:09:55.760
<v Speaker 2>It is the Jews themselves, it is the crowd that screams for</v>

01:09:55.760 --> 01:09:58.400
<v Speaker 2>Barabbas for the murderer over Christ</v>

01:10:01.920 --> 01:10:05.840
<v Speaker 2>That cannot be avoided, and we are not permitted to minimize that.</v>

01:10:05.840 --> 01:10:09.360
<v Speaker 2>That is what Scripture says, that is what we are required to</v>

01:10:09.360 --> 01:10:13.680
<v Speaker 2>believe. You don't subtract from Scripture, you don't add to Scripture.</v>

01:10:13.680 --> 01:10:16.960
<v Speaker 2>Revelation is very clear about the warning for those who would do</v>

01:10:16.960 --> 01:10:20.080
<v Speaker 2>either of those things.</v>

01:10:20.080 --> 01:10:27.040
<v Speaker 2>And it is worth especially noting, Pilate tries repeatedly to free Christ.</v>

01:10:27.040 --> 01:10:31.120
<v Speaker 2>Pilate asks multiple times why they want to kill Christ.</v>

01:10:31.120 --> 01:10:34.320
<v Speaker 2>He picks Barabbas as the option.</v>

01:10:34.320 --> 01:10:36.960
<v Speaker 2>Because do note that Pilate is the one who selects Barabbas.</v>

01:10:37.200 --> 01:10:40.320
<v Speaker 2>Pilate doesn't just select a prisoner at random.</v>

01:10:40.320 --> 01:10:43.120
<v Speaker 2>He doesn't say, Would you like me to free any prisoner?</v>

01:10:43.120 --> 01:10:46.720
<v Speaker 2>He says would you like this murderous rebel who is probably going</v>

01:10:46.720 --> 01:10:49.120
<v Speaker 2>to go out and murder someone the same day he's released?</v>

01:10:49.120 --> 01:10:52.240
<v Speaker 2>Christ, or do you want Christ?</v>

01:10:52.240 --> 01:10:55.840
<v Speaker 2>He stacks the deck as much as he possibly can to try</v>

01:10:55.840 --> 01:10:57.440
<v Speaker 2>to free Christ.</v>

01:10:57.920 --> 01:10:59.840
<v Speaker 2>The crowd will have none of it.</v>

01:10:59.840 --> 01:11:02.960
<v Speaker 2>The crowd wants his blood.</v>

01:11:03.280 --> 01:11:03.440
And

01:11:03.440 --> 01:11:06.560
<v Speaker 3>I think that's the chief reason that we focus so much on</v>

01:11:06.560 --> 01:11:10.800
<v Speaker 3>pastors and teachers, because the crowd was doing what they had been</v>

01:11:10.800 --> 01:11:13.120
<v Speaker 3>taught, but the crowd did it.</v>

01:11:13.120 --> 01:11:18.720
<v Speaker 3>The Pharisees and the high priests absolutely ginned up hatred against Christ.</v>

01:11:18.720 --> 01:11:20.240
<v Speaker 3>Just as we see today.</v>

01:11:20.240 --> 01:11:25.040
<v Speaker 3>We see church leaders on our own J ginning up hatred against</v>

01:11:25.040 --> 01:11:27.360
<v Speaker 3>men, seeking their murder.</v>

01:11:27.600 --> 01:11:29.120
<v Speaker 3>And people go along with it.</v>

01:11:29.120 --> 01:11:30.720
<v Speaker 3>People will happily go along with it.</v>

01:11:30.720 --> 01:11:31.360
<v Speaker 3>Because you know what?</v>

01:11:31.360 --> 01:11:34.320
<v Speaker 3>When your church leader stands up and said, This man is a</v>

01:11:34.320 --> 01:11:36.880
<v Speaker 3>Nazi, he needs to be thrown out and destroyed.</v>

01:11:36.880 --> 01:11:38.000
<v Speaker 3>He needs to be killed.</v>

01:11:38.000 --> 01:11:39.280
<v Speaker 3>Who's gonna argue?</v>

01:11:39.280 --> 01:11:40.800
<v Speaker 3>Nobody likes that.</v>

01:11:40.800 --> 01:11:44.400
<v Speaker 3>And so it's very easy for the crowd to go along.</v>

01:11:44.400 --> 01:11:48.160
<v Speaker 3>God doesn't care what your station is, whether you were the leader</v>

01:11:48.320 --> 01:11:51.040
<v Speaker 3>or you were someone at the very bottom in the crowd, just</v>

01:11:51.040 --> 01:11:55.920
<v Speaker 3>a nameless face, if your voice speaks in opposition to that which</v>

01:11:55.920 --> 01:12:01.440
<v Speaker 3>is godly, you were guilty of the same murder as everyone else.</v>

01:12:01.440 --> 01:12:06.000
<v Speaker 3>In John five, it's written The man went away and told the</v>

01:12:06.000 --> 01:12:08.800
<v Speaker 3>Jews that it was Jesus who had healed him, and this was</v>

01:12:08.800 --> 01:12:12.400
<v Speaker 3>why the Jews were persecuting Jesus, because he was doing these things</v>

01:12:12.400 --> 01:12:13.360
<v Speaker 3>on the Sabbath.</v>

01:12:13.360 --> 01:12:16.880
<v Speaker 3>But Jesus answered them, My Father is working until now and I</v>

01:12:16.880 --> 01:12:17.600
<v Speaker 3>am working.</v>

01:12:17.600 --> 01:12:20.320
<v Speaker 3>This was why the Jews were seeking all the more to kill</v>

01:12:20.320 --> 01:12:23.360
<v Speaker 3>him, because he was not only breaking the Sabbath, but he was</v>

01:12:23.360 --> 01:12:28.480
<v Speaker 3>even calling God his own father, making himself equal with God.</v>

01:12:28.480 --> 01:12:31.600
<v Speaker 3>In the beginning of John seven it says after this Jesus went</v>

01:12:31.600 --> 01:12:35.200
<v Speaker 3>about to Galilee, he would not go into Judea because the Jews</v>

01:12:35.200 --> 01:12:36.880
<v Speaker 3>were seeking to kill him.</v>

01:12:36.880 --> 01:12:40.080
<v Speaker 3>And then later in John seven he says, Has not Moses given</v>

01:12:40.080 --> 01:12:40.720
<v Speaker 3>you the law?</v>

01:12:40.720 --> 01:12:42.400
<v Speaker 3>Yet none of you keeps the law.</v>

01:12:42.400 --> 01:12:44.320
<v Speaker 3>Why do you seek to kill me?</v>

01:12:44.320 --> 01:12:46.160
<v Speaker 3>The crowd answered, You have a demon.</v>

01:12:46.160 --> 01:12:47.040
<v Speaker 3>Who is seeking to kill you?</v>

01:12:47.760 --> 01:12:51.040
<v Speaker 3>The Pharisees heard the crowd muttering these things about him, and the</v>

01:12:51.040 --> 01:12:55.120
<v Speaker 3>chief priests and the Pharisees sent officers to arrest him.</v>

01:12:55.120 --> 01:12:58.880
<v Speaker 3>I think that's an interesting passage because it was the crowd that</v>

01:12:58.880 --> 01:13:02.880
<v Speaker 3>wanted Jesus dead, and it was the Pharisees and the Chief Priests</v>

01:13:02.880 --> 01:13:04.960
<v Speaker 3>who responded to the demand.</v>

01:13:04.960 --> 01:13:07.600
<v Speaker 3>See, we're always told that oh, it was the it was the</v>

01:13:07.600 --> 01:13:09.840
<v Speaker 3>chief priests that were the gang leaders.</v>

01:13:09.840 --> 01:13:11.440
<v Speaker 3>It was a team effort.</v>

01:13:11.440 --> 01:13:14.560
<v Speaker 3>The because the chief police and the Pharisees, they had their own</v>

01:13:14.560 --> 01:13:19.840
<v Speaker 3>agenda, and it was a wicked one, but they often followed the</v>

01:13:19.840 --> 01:13:21.120
<v Speaker 3>lead of the crowd.</v>

01:13:21.120 --> 01:13:22.000
<v Speaker 3>The crowd of what?</v>

01:13:22.000 --> 01:13:23.280
<v Speaker 3>The crowd of Jews.</v>

01:13:23.280 --> 01:13:28.320
<v Speaker 3>Not every Jew, because obviously when Jesus went around in Galilee, he</v>

01:13:28.320 --> 01:13:29.520
<v Speaker 3>was with Jews.</v>

01:13:29.520 --> 01:13:31.680
<v Speaker 3>He was with his disciples, they were Jews.</v>

01:13:31.680 --> 01:13:34.480
<v Speaker 3>It wasn't all of them, but it was a small minority who</v>

01:13:34.480 --> 01:13:35.680
<v Speaker 3>were faithful.</v>

01:13:35.680 --> 01:13:39.440
<v Speaker 3>The rest were either confused or they were murderous.</v>

01:13:39.440 --> 01:13:42.960
<v Speaker 3>And the confused he'd preach to and the murderous he typically fled.</v>

01:13:42.960 --> 01:13:45.120
<v Speaker 3>He would go to a place and speak for a little while,</v>

01:13:45.120 --> 01:13:48.160
<v Speaker 3>and then he would disappear because they were trying to murder him</v>

01:13:48.400 --> 01:13:50.080
<v Speaker 3>continuously for three years.</v>

01:13:50.080 --> 01:13:52.720
<v Speaker 3>I mean it's it's like a Benny Hill skit where you have</v>

01:13:52.720 --> 01:13:55.600
<v Speaker 3>a like three times speed and somebody's just running back and f</v>

01:13:55.680 --> 01:13:58.800
<v Speaker 3>forth across the screen and you have the crowd chasing and waving</v>

01:13:58.800 --> 01:14:00.560
<v Speaker 3>pitchforks and torches.</v>

01:14:00.560 --> 01:14:02.320
<v Speaker 3>That was basically Jesus ministry.</v>

01:14:02.320 --> 01:14:05.760
<v Speaker 3>He would go and do something miraculous and preach something wonderful and</v>

01:14:05.760 --> 01:14:08.080
<v Speaker 3>then everyone tried to murder him and he had to flee with</v>

01:14:08.080 --> 01:14:10.560
<v Speaker 3>a few followers he had that he could trust not to try</v>

01:14:10.560 --> 01:14:11.600
<v Speaker 3>to murder him.</v>

01:14:11.600 --> 01:14:17.600
<v Speaker 3>That was his entire life as Jesus the the minister to his</v>

01:14:17.840 --> 01:14:20.080
<v Speaker 3>people. And for three and a half years he did that.</v>

01:14:20.080 --> 01:14:25.440
<v Speaker 3>And finally, God permitted them to fulfill their murderous goal.</v>

01:14:25.440 --> 01:14:27.680
<v Speaker 3>Because it was also God's goal.</v>

01:14:27.680 --> 01:14:31.600
<v Speaker 3>Their evil, what they meant for evil, God intended for good.</v>

01:14:31.600 --> 01:14:34.080
<v Speaker 3>God used the evil of the Jews.</v>

01:14:34.080 --> 01:14:38.080
<v Speaker 3>He used the cowardice of Pilate, who knew that he was doing</v>

01:14:38.080 --> 01:14:40.960
<v Speaker 3>something wrong, but he didn't want to take the political risk.</v>

01:14:40.960 --> 01:14:43.760
<v Speaker 3>So he stacked the deck and then let the chips fall where</v>

01:14:43.760 --> 01:14:45.120
<v Speaker 3>they may.</v>

01:14:45.120 --> 01:14:49.840
<v Speaker 3>God used all of those failings to pour out the punishment for</v>

01:14:49.840 --> 01:14:51.680
<v Speaker 3>our sins on Jesus on the cross.</v>

01:14:51.680 --> 01:14:53.520
<v Speaker 3>All this was done for our benefit.</v>

01:14:53.520 --> 01:14:56.000
<v Speaker 3>And that doesn't change the fact that all of it was evil</v>

01:14:56.000 --> 01:14:57.280
<v Speaker 3>when it was happening.</v>

01:14:57.760 --> 01:15:03.840
<v Speaker 2>To add to the narrative of the Jews in Pilate's courtyard, Pilate</v>

01:15:04.000 --> 01:15:08.160
<v Speaker 2>at least twice in this narrative says that he will punish Christ</v>

01:15:08.640 --> 01:15:10.000
<v Speaker 2>and then release him.</v>

01:15:10.000 --> 01:15:16.000
<v Speaker 2>He is attempting to appease the Jews by punishing Christ, but attempting</v>

01:15:16.000 --> 01:15:19.040
<v Speaker 2>not to have this innocent man's blood on his hands, and yes</v>

01:15:19.120 --> 01:15:21.600
<v Speaker 2>he does wash his hands of the matter.</v>

01:15:21.760 --> 01:15:25.840
<v Speaker 2>By releasing Christ, and so from Luke twenty-three.</v>

01:15:25.840 --> 01:15:28.960
<v Speaker 2>When Pilate heard this, he asked whether the man was a Galilean,</v>

01:15:28.960 --> 01:15:31.760
<v Speaker 2>and when he learned that he belonged to Herod's jurisdiction, he sent</v>

01:15:31.760 --> 01:15:35.280
<v Speaker 2>him over to Herod, who was himself in Jerusalem at that time.</v>

01:15:35.280 --> 01:15:38.560
<v Speaker 2>When Herod saw Jesus he was very glad, for he had long</v>

01:15:38.560 --> 01:15:41.680
<v Speaker 2>desired to see him, because he had heard about him, and he</v>

01:15:41.680 --> 01:15:44.240
<v Speaker 2>was hoping to see some sign done by him.</v>

01:15:44.240 --> 01:15:47.600
<v Speaker 2>So he questioned him at some length, but he made no answer.</v>

01:15:47.600 --> 01:15:51.760
<v Speaker 2>The chief priests and the scribes stood by, vehemently accusing him, and</v>

01:15:51.760 --> 01:15:55.200
<v Speaker 2>Herod with his soldiers treated him with contempt and mocked him.</v>

01:15:55.200 --> 01:15:59.120
<v Speaker 2>Then, arraying him in splendid clothing, he sent him back to Pilate.</v>

01:15:59.120 --> 01:16:02.400
<v Speaker 2>And Herod and Pilate became friends with each other that very day,</v>

01:16:02.400 --> 01:16:05.520
<v Speaker 2>for before this they had been at enmity with each other.</v>

01:16:05.520 --> 01:16:08.640
<v Speaker 2>Pilate then called together the chief priests and the rulers of the</v>

01:16:08.640 --> 01:16:12.160
<v Speaker 2>people, and said to them, You brought me this man as one</v>

01:16:12.160 --> 01:16:16.720
<v Speaker 2>who was misleading the people, and after examining him before you, I</v>

01:16:16.720 --> 01:16:19.920
<v Speaker 2>do not find this man guilty of any of your charges against</v>

01:16:19.920 --> 01:16:23.440
<v Speaker 2>him. neither did Herod, for he sent him back to us.</v>

01:16:23.440 --> 01:16:27.520
<v Speaker 2>Look, Nothing deserving death has been done by him I will therefore</v>

01:16:27.520 --> 01:16:30.160
<v Speaker 2>punish and release him.</v>

01:16:30.160 --> 01:16:33.760
<v Speaker 2>So again you see in this narrative, Pilate is attempting to do</v>

01:16:33.760 --> 01:16:37.840
<v Speaker 2>anything he can to not kill Christ, to not have to deal</v>

01:16:37.840 --> 01:16:40.880
<v Speaker 2>with this issue He sends him over to Herod, hoping that Herod</v>

01:16:40.880 --> 01:16:42.320
<v Speaker 2>will be able to deal with it.</v>

01:16:42.320 --> 01:16:46.400
<v Speaker 2>And so Christ stands before a Jewish ruler, accused by the Jews</v>

01:16:46.560 --> 01:16:47.680
<v Speaker 2>standing by.</v>

01:16:47.680 --> 01:16:51.200
<v Speaker 2>And so they treat him shamefully and send him back, after mocking</v>

01:16:51.200 --> 01:16:52.640
<v Speaker 2>him, send him back to Pilate.</v>

01:16:52.880 --> 01:16:58.240
<v Speaker 2>Pilate again tries to not have to crucify Christ, says, I will</v>

01:16:58.240 --> 01:17:00.800
<v Speaker 2>punish the man and then release him.</v>

01:17:00.800 --> 01:17:04.480
<v Speaker 2>And then to continue reading, but they all cried out together, Away</v>

01:17:04.640 --> 01:17:07.680
<v Speaker 2>with this man, and release to us Barabbas, a man A man</v>

01:17:07.680 --> 01:17:10.400
<v Speaker 2>who had been thrown into prison for an insurrection started in the</v>

01:17:10.400 --> 01:17:11.840
<v Speaker 2>city and for murder.</v>

01:17:11.840 --> 01:17:16.160
<v Speaker 2>Pilate addressed them once more, desiring to release Jesus.</v>

01:17:16.160 --> 01:17:17.520
<v Speaker 2>But they kept shouting,</v>

01:17:18.480 --> 01:17:19.760
<v Speaker 2>crucify him.</v>

01:17:19.760 --> 01:17:22.800
<v Speaker 2>A third time he said to them, Why, what evil has he</v>

01:17:22.800 --> 01:17:26.320
<v Speaker 2>done? I have found in him no guilt deserving death.</v>

01:17:26.320 --> 01:17:28.800
<v Speaker 2>I will therefore punish and release him.</v>

01:17:28.800 --> 01:17:32.160
<v Speaker 2>But they were urgent, demanding with loud cries that he should be</v>

01:17:32.160 --> 01:17:35.040
<v Speaker 2>crucified, and their voices prevailed.</v>

01:17:35.040 --> 01:17:38.080
<v Speaker 2>So Pilate decided that their demand should be granted.</v>

01:17:38.080 --> 01:17:41.040
<v Speaker 2>He released the man who had been thrown into prison for insurrection</v>

01:17:41.040 --> 01:17:44.400
<v Speaker 2>and murder, for whom they asked, but he delivered Jesus over to</v>

01:17:44.400 --> 01:17:46.880
<v Speaker 2>their will.</v>

01:17:46.880 --> 01:17:49.920
<v Speaker 2>Scripture is very clear again.</v>

01:17:49.920 --> 01:17:55.520
<v Speaker 2>It says that Pilate desires to release Jesus, but the crowd, the</v>

01:17:55.520 --> 01:17:57.680
<v Speaker 2>Jews, want him crucified.</v>

01:17:58.720 --> 01:18:02.560
<v Speaker 2>And more than that, because of course we have, from Matthew, in</v>

01:18:02.560 --> 01:18:07.120
<v Speaker 2>Matthew twenty seven, and all the people answered, His blood be on</v>

01:18:07.120 --> 01:18:09.840
<v Speaker 2>us and on our children.</v>

01:18:09.840 --> 01:18:13.440
<v Speaker 2>That is in response to Pilate saying, I am innocent of this</v>

01:18:13.440 --> 01:18:16.400
<v Speaker 2>man's blood, see to it yourselves.</v>

01:18:16.880 --> 01:18:23.280
<v Speaker 2>The Jews call down a generational curse for Christ's blood on themselves,</v>

01:18:23.280 --> 01:18:26.400
<v Speaker 2>on themselves and on their children.</v>

01:18:26.400 --> 01:18:29.280
<v Speaker 2>That is what Scripture says.</v>

01:18:29.280 --> 01:18:34.720
<v Speaker 2>So Christians are not, again, Christians are not permitted to minimize what</v>

01:18:34.720 --> 01:18:39.520
<v Speaker 2>Scripture says about the guilt and the evil of the Jews?</v>

01:18:39.520 --> 01:18:42.480
<v Speaker 2>That does not mean they can't be Christian, because of course they</v>

01:18:42.480 --> 01:18:43.520
<v Speaker 2>can repent.</v>

01:18:43.520 --> 01:18:47.520
<v Speaker 2>Even crucifying Christ isn't the unforgivable sin.</v>

01:18:47.520 --> 01:18:52.880
<v Speaker 2>However, being impenitent is unforgivable.</v>

01:18:52.880 --> 01:18:56.400
<v Speaker 2>And the Jews by and large are impenitent.</v>

01:18:56.400 --> 01:18:58.240
<v Speaker 2>Ask them today.</v>

01:18:58.240 --> 01:19:01.200
<v Speaker 2>You will see, even just go on social media and search for</v>

01:19:01.200 --> 01:19:04.320
<v Speaker 2>it. There are many of them who will say if Christ came</v>

01:19:04.320 --> 01:19:08.160
<v Speaker 2>back we'd crucify him again.</v>

01:19:08.160 --> 01:19:10.960
<v Speaker 2>To this day they are proud of what they did in Pilate's</v>

01:19:10.960 --> 01:19:15.840
<v Speaker 2>courtyard. Now again that does not apply to those who have repented,</v>

01:19:15.840 --> 01:19:19.360
<v Speaker 2>who have converted, who have ceased to be Jews, and become Christians,</v>

01:19:19.360 --> 01:19:22.000
<v Speaker 2>because that is what that in this case is what it takes.</v>

01:19:22.000 --> 01:19:26.640
<v Speaker 2>You have to cease to be a Jew to be a Christian.</v>

01:19:26.640 --> 01:19:30.880
<v Speaker 2>But many of them are proud of what their ancestors did.</v>

01:19:30.880 --> 01:19:32.880
<v Speaker 2>That's the generational curse.</v>

01:19:32.880 --> 01:19:38.800
<v Speaker 2>His blood on those in that courtyard and on their children.</v>

01:19:38.800 --> 01:19:41.040
<v Speaker 2>That is the word of God, that is what scripture says, that</v>

01:19:41.040 --> 01:19:44.240
<v Speaker 2>is what Christians are required to believe.</v>

01:19:44.240 --> 01:19:50.240
<v Speaker 3>And it's of course the most ironic blasphemy imaginable because we too</v>

01:19:50.240 --> 01:19:53.520
<v Speaker 3>pray for Christ's blood to be upon us and upon our children,</v>

01:19:53.520 --> 01:19:56.000
<v Speaker 3>but from the complete opposite direction.</v>

01:19:56.000 --> 01:20:01.280
<v Speaker 3>We wish to receive the forgiveness of sins found in that blood.</v>

01:20:01.280 --> 01:20:04.000
<v Speaker 3>They had nothing but contempt for it, and they have nothing but</v>

01:20:04.000 --> 01:20:05.760
<v Speaker 3>contempt for it to this day.</v>

01:20:05.760 --> 01:20:10.160
<v Speaker 3>So the blood of Christ is upon everyone, but it doesn't mean</v>

01:20:10.160 --> 01:20:11.120
<v Speaker 3>the same thing.</v>

01:20:11.120 --> 01:20:14.240
<v Speaker 3>When the blood of Christ is upon the elect, it is for</v>

01:20:14.240 --> 01:20:15.360
<v Speaker 3>their salvation.</v>

01:20:15.360 --> 01:20:19.040
<v Speaker 3>When the blood of Christ is upon those who despise him, it</v>

01:20:19.040 --> 01:20:22.080
<v Speaker 3>is for their eternal damnation, which is tragic.</v>

01:20:22.080 --> 01:20:26.000
<v Speaker 3>And I think that we'll get into it in a future episode,</v>

01:20:26.000 --> 01:20:29.760
<v Speaker 3>but I think it's worth noting that today you have the Zionists</v>

01:20:29.840 --> 01:20:33.120
<v Speaker 3>and you have the John Hagees and even the Pope himself in</v>

01:20:33.120 --> 01:20:37.360
<v Speaker 3>the sixties effectively saying we don't need to evangelize the Jews, they're</v>

01:20:37.280 --> 01:20:39.200
<v Speaker 3>just fine the way they are.</v>

01:20:39.200 --> 01:20:44.640
<v Speaker 3>Not only is that blasphemy, not only is it absolutely false doctrine,</v>

01:20:44.640 --> 01:20:47.680
<v Speaker 3>but it's the worst possible thing for the Jews.</v>

01:20:47.680 --> 01:20:51.360
<v Speaker 3>If you hate Jews, then yeah, leave them alone.</v>

01:20:51.360 --> 01:20:52.880
<v Speaker 3>Don't tell them about God.</v>

01:20:52.880 --> 01:20:55.360
<v Speaker 3>If you hate Jews and want to see them burning in turn</v>

01:20:55.360 --> 01:20:59.280
<v Speaker 3>in eternity, then just let them be, because that's the track that</v>

01:20:59.280 --> 01:20:59.680
<v Speaker 3>they're on.</v>

01:21:00.480 --> 01:21:04.400
<v Speaker 3>The only loving thing that can be possibly done for this group</v>

01:21:04.400 --> 01:21:06.960
<v Speaker 3>of people is to bring the gospel to them.</v>

01:21:06.960 --> 01:21:09.120
<v Speaker 3>Something incidentally is illegal in Israel.</v>

01:21:09.120 --> 01:21:11.680
<v Speaker 3>You'll be deported if you try to do that.</v>

01:21:11.680 --> 01:21:13.280
<v Speaker 3>And that spirit</v>

01:21:14.480 --> 01:21:17.680
<v Speaker 3>is exemplified after Christ's crucifixion.</v>

01:21:17.680 --> 01:21:20.080
<v Speaker 3>I think it's important, like we said, part of the reason we're</v>

01:21:20.000 --> 01:21:23.280
<v Speaker 3>talking about this particular thing is that there are many pastors who</v>

01:21:23.280 --> 01:21:25.600
<v Speaker 3>are afraid to say this stuff from the pulpit or in Bible</v>

01:21:25.680 --> 01:21:29.280
<v Speaker 3>starter. They want to hem and haw and try to deflect blame</v>

01:21:29.280 --> 01:21:33.120
<v Speaker 3>from the crowd of Jews to the small group of people.</v>

01:21:33.120 --> 01:21:36.320
<v Speaker 3>Listen to the preaching of Peter in Acts three.</v>

01:21:36.320 --> 01:21:38.720
<v Speaker 3>While he clung to Peter and John and all the people, utterly</v>

01:21:38.720 --> 01:21:42.320
<v Speaker 3>astounded, ran together to them in the portico called Solomon's, and when</v>

01:21:42.320 --> 01:21:46.160
<v Speaker 3>Peter saw it he addressed the people, Men of Israel, why do</v>

01:21:46.160 --> 01:21:48.560
<v Speaker 3>you wonder at this, or why do you stare at us?</v>

01:21:48.560 --> 01:21:51.280
<v Speaker 3>Is though by our own power or piety we have made him</v>

01:21:51.280 --> 01:21:54.000
<v Speaker 3>walk. The god of Abraham, the god of Isaac and the God</v>

01:21:54.000 --> 01:21:58.240
<v Speaker 3>of Jacob, the god of our fathers glorified his servant Jesus, whom</v>

01:21:58.240 --> 01:22:02.080
<v Speaker 3>you delivered over and denied in the presence of Pilate, when he</v>

01:22:02.080 --> 01:22:03.440
<v Speaker 3>had decided to release him.</v>

01:22:03.920 --> 01:22:07.360
<v Speaker 3>But you denied the holy and righteous one and asked for a</v>

01:22:07.360 --> 01:22:10.800
<v Speaker 3>murderer to be granted to you, and you killed the author of</v>

01:22:10.800 --> 01:22:13.200
<v Speaker 3>life, whom God raised from the dead.</v>

01:22:13.200 --> 01:22:14.720
<v Speaker 3>To this we are witnesses.</v>

01:22:14.720 --> 01:22:17.760
<v Speaker 3>In his name, by faith in his name has made this man</v>

01:22:17.760 --> 01:22:21.120
<v Speaker 3>strong whom you see and know, in the faith that is through</v>

01:22:21.120 --> 01:22:24.240
<v Speaker 3>Jesus has given the man this perfect health in the presence of</v>

01:22:24.240 --> 01:22:24.960
<v Speaker 3>you all.</v>

01:22:24.960 --> 01:22:28.240
<v Speaker 3>And now, brothers, I know that you acted in ignorance, as did</v>

01:22:28.240 --> 01:22:31.680
<v Speaker 3>also your rulers, but what God foretold by the mouth of all</v>

01:22:31.680 --> 01:22:35.440
<v Speaker 3>the prophets that his Christ would suffer, he thus fulfilled.</v>

01:22:35.440 --> 01:22:38.880
<v Speaker 3>Repent therefore, and turn back.</v>

01:22:38.880 --> 01:22:41.920
<v Speaker 3>This is everything the Cory and I just said.</v>

01:22:41.920 --> 01:22:45.920
<v Speaker 3>Peter, as soon as he gets us and preaches, he doesn't say</v>

01:22:45.920 --> 01:22:47.360
<v Speaker 3>it was the Pharisees that did it.</v>

01:22:47.360 --> 01:22:50.080
<v Speaker 3>He doesn't say your rulers were bad, that you're all right.</v>

01:22:50.080 --> 01:22:54.480
<v Speaker 3>He says, Men of Israel, you murdered God.</v>

01:22:54.480 --> 01:22:57.760
<v Speaker 3>And he also offers forgiveness.</v>

01:22:57.760 --> 01:23:01.040
<v Speaker 3>He says, I know that you acted in ignorance, as did also</v>

01:23:01.040 --> 01:23:02.000
<v Speaker 3>your rulers.</v>

01:23:02.000 --> 01:23:04.800
<v Speaker 3>As Corey just said, it wasn't the unforgivable sin.</v>

01:23:04.800 --> 01:23:08.000
<v Speaker 3>Even murdering God on the cross was not unforgivable.</v>

01:23:08.000 --> 01:23:12.000
<v Speaker 3>And yet they continued by and large to persist in their evil.</v>

01:23:12.000 --> 01:23:15.120
<v Speaker 3>That is what the law and the gospel are for.</v>

01:23:15.120 --> 01:23:18.640
<v Speaker 3>You must deliver the law to those who are impenitent in their</v>

01:23:18.640 --> 01:23:23.520
<v Speaker 3>sins. Peter was looking at this crowd of Jews and saying you</v>

01:23:23.520 --> 01:23:26.640
<v Speaker 3>murdered Christ, you must repent of this.</v>

01:23:26.640 --> 01:23:30.400
<v Speaker 3>He wasn't begging them, but that was that was it.</v>

01:23:30.400 --> 01:23:31.520
<v Speaker 3>You murdered Christ.</v>

01:23:31.520 --> 01:23:35.680
<v Speaker 3>What possibly could be more horrific to a believer than to hear</v>

01:23:35.680 --> 01:23:38.320
<v Speaker 3>that. And that's precisely why he told them.</v>

01:23:38.320 --> 01:23:40.720
<v Speaker 3>When we have pastors today and we have leaders and we have</v>

01:23:40.720 --> 01:23:44.160
<v Speaker 3>teachers who are afraid to say that, what happens to the Christian</v>

01:23:44.160 --> 01:23:47.120
<v Speaker 3>faith when we become so ashamed of it that we have to</v>

01:23:47.120 --> 01:23:49.760
<v Speaker 3>hide it in a corner and we can't proclaim it in its</v>

01:23:49.760 --> 01:23:54.320
<v Speaker 3>fullness as scripture itself proclaims it, we don't get a vote on</v>

01:23:54.320 --> 01:23:55.040
<v Speaker 3>this stuff.</v>

01:23:55.040 --> 01:23:57.520
<v Speaker 3>We don't get to say it was the Pharisees, it wasn't the</v>

01:23:57.520 --> 01:24:00.960
<v Speaker 3>crowds. We don't get to just blame the crowds either, because there</v>

01:24:00.960 --> 01:24:03.840
<v Speaker 3>are numerous passages that say that the Pharisees, the rulers, the high</v>

01:24:03.840 --> 01:24:07.280
<v Speaker 3>priests conspired off on their own.</v>

01:24:07.280 --> 01:24:12.320
<v Speaker 3>Everyone was guilty, and everyone had the opportunity to be forgiven.</v>

01:24:13.200 --> 01:24:15.520
<v Speaker 3>God says it, we have to say it.</v>

01:24:15.520 --> 01:24:17.520
<v Speaker 3>We have to say it about the Jews, and we have to</v>

01:24:17.520 --> 01:24:18.960
<v Speaker 3>say it about the Jews today.</v>

01:24:18.960 --> 01:24:22.000
<v Speaker 3>And the fact that today, when you say the Jews, people get</v>

01:24:22.000 --> 01:24:25.360
<v Speaker 3>really nervous and suddenly pastors have to get up in the pulpit.</v>

01:24:25.360 --> 01:24:30.240
<v Speaker 3>I've actually heard pastors change the text to avoid saying the Jews,</v>

01:24:30.240 --> 01:24:33.680
<v Speaker 3>they will say the Pharisees or some other thing to deflect blame</v>

01:24:33.840 --> 01:24:37.440
<v Speaker 3>to that one little outgroup, to blame the leaders, to blame the</v>

01:24:37.440 --> 01:24:38.880
<v Speaker 3>president of the synod.</v>

01:24:38.880 --> 01:24:41.440
<v Speaker 3>It's not that guy, it's everyone who's listening.</v>

01:24:41.440 --> 01:24:44.800
<v Speaker 3>It's everyone who's following evil that is equally evil.</v>

01:24:44.800 --> 01:24:47.760
<v Speaker 3>You don't get an out because you're not senior.</v>

01:24:47.760 --> 01:24:51.040
<v Speaker 3>The only out is forgiveness through repentance.</v>

01:24:51.040 --> 01:24:55.360
<v Speaker 2>And in case anyone thinks that we are going beyond the bounds</v>

01:24:55.360 --> 01:24:58.960
<v Speaker 2>of the evidence as it were, in our comments about what the</v>

01:24:58.960 --> 01:25:04.480
<v Speaker 2>Jews believe today, I will read for you in English translation a</v>

01:25:04.480 --> 01:25:08.000
<v Speaker 2>prayer from the Talmud, this one is from the Jerusalem version instead</v>

01:25:08.000 --> 01:25:10.800
<v Speaker 2>of the Babylonian, but they are nearly identical.</v>

01:25:10.800 --> 01:25:15.120
<v Speaker 2>The Jews traditionally pray three times per day.</v>

01:25:15.120 --> 01:25:19.920
<v Speaker 2>This is the Birkat Haminim, and here is the prayer in English.</v>

01:25:19.920 --> 01:25:23.840
<v Speaker 2>For the apostates, let there be no hope, and uproot the kingdom</v>

01:25:23.840 --> 01:25:26.640
<v Speaker 2>of arrogance, speedily and in our days.</v>

01:25:26.640 --> 01:25:30.800
<v Speaker 2>May the Nazarenes and the sectarians perish as in a moment.</v>

01:25:30.800 --> 01:25:33.200
<v Speaker 2>Let them be blotted out of the book of life, and not</v>

01:25:33.200 --> 01:25:35.200
<v Speaker 2>be written together with the righteous.</v>

01:25:35.200 --> 01:25:39.600
<v Speaker 2>You are praised, O Lord, who subdues the arrogant.</v>

01:25:39.600 --> 01:25:42.160
<v Speaker 2>You are a Nazarene, if you're a Christian.</v>

01:25:42.160 --> 01:25:44.720
<v Speaker 2>That's what that means what that means.</v>

01:25:44.720 --> 01:25:51.120
<v Speaker 2>Traditionally, and still today, Jews pray three times per day, cursing you</v>

01:25:51.120 --> 01:25:54.240
<v Speaker 2>specifically because you are a Christian.</v>

01:25:54.240 --> 01:25:56.880
<v Speaker 2>That is something they've been doing for centuries?</v>

01:25:56.880 --> 01:26:00.400
<v Speaker 2>Thank you That is something again they still do today.</v>

01:26:00.400 --> 01:26:03.920
<v Speaker 2>This was something they hid for a very long time.</v>

01:26:03.920 --> 01:26:08.000
<v Speaker 2>But then I believe it was originally a German academic who got</v>

01:26:08.000 --> 01:26:10.880
<v Speaker 2>a hold of a copy of some of these documents and started</v>

01:26:10.880 --> 01:26:11.440
<v Speaker 2>translating them.</v>

01:26:11.440 --> 01:26:15.200
<v Speaker 2>And as the Talmud has been translated, we've found more and worse</v>

01:26:15.200 --> 01:26:17.120
<v Speaker 2>things, and I'm sure at some point we will go over the</v>

01:26:17.120 --> 01:26:21.360
<v Speaker 2>Talmud in greater depth.</v>

01:26:21.360 --> 01:26:25.600
<v Speaker 2>But this is the mindset of modern Jews.</v>

01:26:25.600 --> 01:26:28.560
<v Speaker 2>They hate Christians.</v>

01:26:28.560 --> 01:26:33.760
<v Speaker 2>And incidentally, when they're talking about apostates, they are cursing Jews who</v>

01:26:33.760 --> 01:26:35.760
<v Speaker 2>have converted to Christianity.</v>

01:26:35.760 --> 01:26:40.640
<v Speaker 2>They hold a particular hatred for Jews who convert.</v>

01:26:40.640 --> 01:26:42.480
<v Speaker 2>But they hate Christians.</v>

01:26:42.480 --> 01:26:45.680
<v Speaker 2>And they pray and curse you multiple times per day.</v>

01:26:45.680 --> 01:26:49.440
<v Speaker 2>Now, of course, they are not praying to the Lord God, because</v>

01:26:49.440 --> 01:26:52.240
<v Speaker 2>those who do not have the Son do not have the Father.</v>

01:26:52.240 --> 01:26:55.200
<v Speaker 2>And they reject the Son, so they are not praying to God</v>

01:26:55.200 --> 01:26:55.680
<v Speaker 2>the Father.</v>

01:26:55.760 --> 01:26:57.120
<v Speaker 2>That is an important point.</v>

01:26:57.120 --> 01:27:00.400
<v Speaker 2>There are many pastors and others who will say, Well, no, the</v>

01:27:00.160 --> 01:27:03.840
<v Speaker 2>the Jews worship God, they just don't worship him correctly.</v>

01:27:03.840 --> 01:27:07.440
<v Speaker 2>No. Scripture says that those who do not have the Son do</v>

01:27:07.440 --> 01:27:08.480
<v Speaker 2>not have the Father.</v>

01:27:08.480 --> 01:27:11.040
<v Speaker 2>The Jews do not worship the Lord God.</v>

01:27:11.040 --> 01:27:13.920
<v Speaker 2>They do not worship the Father, they do not worship the Trinity,</v>

01:27:13.920 --> 01:27:19.200
<v Speaker 2>they are not in any way, shape, or form, related to Christians</v>

01:27:19.840 --> 01:27:21.680
<v Speaker 2>or Christianity.</v>

01:27:21.680 --> 01:27:26.080
<v Speaker 2>They are vile pagans, and they pray to curse you three times</v>

01:27:26.080 --> 01:27:28.800
<v Speaker 2>per day, at least there are other prayers they say that are</v>

01:27:28.800 --> 01:27:33.360
<v Speaker 2>daily prayers that also call down curses.</v>

01:27:33.360 --> 01:27:35.680
<v Speaker 2>That is the reality of the situation.</v>

01:27:35.680 --> 01:27:36.400
<v Speaker 2>Yes, exactly.</v>

01:27:36.400 --> 01:27:37.600
<v Speaker 2>Their prayers are to Satan.</v>

01:27:37.600 --> 01:27:40.400
<v Speaker 2>They are praying to Satan to curse you.</v>

01:27:40.400 --> 01:27:44.560
<v Speaker 2>There are so many pastors and leaders and others who are afraid</v>

01:27:44.560 --> 01:27:46.800
<v Speaker 2>to say these things.</v>

01:27:46.800 --> 01:27:48.080
<v Speaker 2>But this is the reality.</v>

01:27:48.080 --> 01:27:51.920
<v Speaker 2>This is exactly what their own holy books say, so called holy</v>

01:27:51.920 --> 01:27:57.040
<v Speaker 2>books. And this is just grazing the surface.</v>

01:27:57.040 --> 01:28:01.680
<v Speaker 2>Incidentally, Christ responds to the Talmud in Scripture.</v>

01:28:01.680 --> 01:28:05.840
<v Speaker 2>One of the most abused passages in Scripture is in part a</v>

01:28:05.840 --> 01:28:11.440
<v Speaker 2>response to a wicked Jewish prayer from proto-versions of the Talmud, because</v>

01:28:11.440 --> 01:28:14.800
<v Speaker 2>one of the prayers that is said by Jewish men traditionally, at</v>

01:28:14.800 --> 01:28:19.280
<v Speaker 2>least once per day, sometimes multiple times per day, is a prayer</v>

01:28:19.520 --> 01:28:24.320
<v Speaker 2>that basically says, thank you to God that I was not made</v>

01:28:24.320 --> 01:28:28.560
<v Speaker 2>a Gentile, thank you to God that I was not made a</v>

01:28:28.560 --> 01:28:34.480
<v Speaker 2>woman. And so you should be thinking of Galatians 3:28.</v>

01:28:34.480 --> 01:28:38.400
<v Speaker 2>There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither slave nor free.</v>

01:28:38.400 --> 01:28:40.640
<v Speaker 2>There is not male and female.</v>

01:28:40.640 --> 01:28:43.120
<v Speaker 2>Well they also add to their prayer that thank you God for</v>

01:28:43.120 --> 01:28:45.040
<v Speaker 2>not making me a slave.</v>

01:28:45.040 --> 01:28:48.640
<v Speaker 2>Well, there are the three categories that Christ uses</v>

01:28:49.840 --> 01:28:52.240
<v Speaker 2>right there in a Jewish prayer.</v>

01:28:52.240 --> 01:28:56.160
<v Speaker 2>He is responding in part to the evil of the Talmud as</v>

01:28:56.160 --> 01:28:59.200
<v Speaker 2>it is taking form, because it was not finished until around the</v>

01:28:59.200 --> 01:29:04.720
<v Speaker 2>five hundreds, perhaps a little earlier, but right around that time.</v>

01:29:04.720 --> 01:29:08.160
<v Speaker 2>But some of the materials were obviously coalescing at the time of</v>

01:29:08.160 --> 01:29:11.360
<v Speaker 2>Christ's ministry.</v>

01:29:11.360 --> 01:29:15.120
<v Speaker 2>So Christians Christians should have some familiarity with these things because it</v>

01:29:15.120 --> 01:29:19.920
<v Speaker 2>is responded to in our own holy documents, in scripture.</v>

01:29:19.920 --> 01:29:24.560
<v Speaker 2>This is not just some esoteric issue that's off on the sidelines.</v>

01:29:24.560 --> 01:29:29.520
<v Speaker 2>This is of the utmost importance because this deals with a very</v>

01:29:29.520 --> 01:29:34.800
<v Speaker 2>real, very live controversy in our time.</v>

01:29:35.200 --> 01:29:38.000
<v Speaker 3>And the reason for pointing these things out in time is that</v>

01:29:38.000 --> 01:29:39.440
<v Speaker 3>none of these are flukes.</v>

01:29:39.600 --> 01:29:43.440
<v Speaker 3>It wasn't a fluke that they just happened to be really mean</v>

01:29:43.760 --> 01:29:46.800
<v Speaker 3>in the year that Jesus was ministering.</v>

01:29:46.800 --> 01:29:49.040
<v Speaker 3>And it doesn't so happen that they just happen to be really</v>

01:29:49.040 --> 01:29:52.880
<v Speaker 3>mean, you know, when they wrote those prayers, or that they're really</v>

01:29:52.880 --> 01:29:54.320
<v Speaker 3>mean today.</v>

01:29:54.480 --> 01:29:58.480
<v Speaker 3>First Thessalonians two says, For you brothers became imitators of the church</v>

01:29:58.480 --> 01:30:02.160
<v Speaker 3>of God in Christ Jesus that are in Judea, for you suffered</v>

01:30:02.160 --> 01:30:05.920
<v Speaker 3>the same things from your own countrymen as they did from the</v>

01:30:05.920 --> 01:30:10.000
<v Speaker 3>Jews, who killed both the Lord Jesus and the prophets, and drove</v>

01:30:10.000 --> 01:30:14.400
<v Speaker 3>us out and displeased God and oppose all mankind by hindering us</v>

01:30:14.400 --> 01:30:18.080
<v Speaker 3>from speaking to the Gentiles that they might be saved, so as</v>

01:30:18.080 --> 01:30:21.200
<v Speaker 3>always to fill up the measure of their sins, but wrath has</v>

01:30:21.200 --> 01:30:23.040
<v Speaker 3>come upon them at last.</v>

01:30:23.040 --> 01:30:27.200
<v Speaker 3>This is Paul writing to a Greek city, but he's talking not</v>

01:30:27.200 --> 01:30:29.600
<v Speaker 3>only about the murder of Christ, but how the Jews have been</v>

01:30:29.600 --> 01:30:32.000
<v Speaker 3>murdering prophets for centuries.</v>

01:30:32.000 --> 01:30:34.240
<v Speaker 3>This was not new behavior for them.</v>

01:30:34.240 --> 01:30:38.160
<v Speaker 3>God kept sending prophets and they kept getting killed or ignored.</v>

01:30:38.160 --> 01:30:42.320
<v Speaker 3>You know, profit being selected as a prophet is never good news.</v>

01:30:42.720 --> 01:30:44.880
<v Speaker 3>it never went ends well.</v>

01:30:44.880 --> 01:30:47.120
<v Speaker 3>I mean, the I think the one who got off the best</v>

01:30:47.120 --> 01:30:48.240
<v Speaker 3>was Elijah.</v>

01:30:48.480 --> 01:30:49.120
<v Speaker 3>he didn't die.</v>

01:30:49.120 --> 01:30:52.240
<v Speaker 3>He was just taken up in a whirlwind or on a chariot.</v>

01:30:52.240 --> 01:30:56.560
<v Speaker 3>He wasn't he didn't have to suffer as many others did in</v>

01:30:56.560 --> 01:31:01.040
<v Speaker 3>death, but his life was no bowl of roses.</v>

01:31:01.040 --> 01:31:04.000
<v Speaker 3>It's I think it's important to hearken back to something that we</v>

01:31:04.000 --> 01:31:05.600
<v Speaker 3>have mentioned on previous episodes.</v>

01:31:05.600 --> 01:31:09.680
<v Speaker 3>We didn't we were talking about the Old Testament today..</v>

01:31:09.680 --> 01:31:14.320
<v Speaker 3>When Moses led the Israelites out of Egypt, they were in the</v>

01:31:14.320 --> 01:31:18.720
<v Speaker 3>desert, he went up on the mountain to receive the Ten Commandments</v>

01:31:18.720 --> 01:31:19.600
<v Speaker 3>from God.</v>

01:31:19.600 --> 01:31:20.960
<v Speaker 3>He was gone for forty days.</v>

01:31:21.280 --> 01:31:24.480
<v Speaker 3>he That was when he received the books.</v>

01:31:24.480 --> 01:31:27.280
<v Speaker 3>He was up there for forty days.</v>

01:31:27.280 --> 01:31:30.960
<v Speaker 3>There was a pillar of fire at night and pillar of smoke</v>

01:31:30.960 --> 01:31:31.920
<v Speaker 3>during the day.</v>

01:31:31.920 --> 01:31:33.440
<v Speaker 3>It was a huge scene.</v>

01:31:33.440 --> 01:31:34.400
<v Speaker 3>It was very visible.</v>

01:31:34.960 --> 01:31:38.080
<v Speaker 3>The Israelites were down at the base of the mountain.</v>

01:31:38.080 --> 01:31:41.840
<v Speaker 3>In the forty days that Moses was up there, they descended into</v>

01:31:41.840 --> 01:31:46.160
<v Speaker 3>idolatry. They had Aaron melt down their gold and make a golden</v>

01:31:46.160 --> 01:31:51.440
<v Speaker 3>calf for them, which was as Corey said previously, was almost certainly</v>

01:31:51.440 --> 01:31:55.120
<v Speaker 3>one of the gods of Egypt that they chose to worship, and</v>

01:31:55.120 --> 01:31:58.000
<v Speaker 3>they said to Aaron, make a god for us, make the god</v>

01:31:58.000 --> 01:31:59.040
<v Speaker 3>that led us out of Egypt.</v>

01:31:59.680 --> 01:32:01.280
<v Speaker 3>God's right there on the mountain.</v>

01:32:01.280 --> 01:32:04.320
<v Speaker 3>God's in a pillar of fire talking to Moses, talking to the</v>

01:32:04.320 --> 01:32:06.640
<v Speaker 3>prophet who led them out of captivity.</v>

01:32:06.640 --> 01:32:07.760
<v Speaker 3>And what do they do?</v>

01:32:07.760 --> 01:32:10.640
<v Speaker 3>They turn their back on him and say, No, we want to</v>

01:32:10.640 --> 01:32:11.760
<v Speaker 3>make shift God.</v>

01:32:11.760 --> 01:32:13.200
<v Speaker 3>We're going to worship this instead.</v>

01:32:13.200 --> 01:32:14.240
<v Speaker 3>And they did.</v>

01:32:14.240 --> 01:32:19.040
<v Speaker 3>Moses comes down and they're having a big party worshiping pagan gods.</v>

01:32:19.040 --> 01:32:21.440
<v Speaker 3>In they just left Egypt.</v>

01:32:21.440 --> 01:32:23.440
<v Speaker 3>They just seen all of these miracles.</v>

01:32:23.440 --> 01:32:27.520
<v Speaker 3>They're be they're before a miracle with the physical special presence of</v>

01:32:27.520 --> 01:32:31.520
<v Speaker 3>God through the fire and the smoke, and they apostatize.</v>

01:32:31.520 --> 01:32:33.840
<v Speaker 3>This was the spirit of these people.</v>

01:32:33.840 --> 01:32:37.920
<v Speaker 3>So I think one of the key things to understand about the</v>

01:32:38.080 --> 01:32:40.960
<v Speaker 3>the Jewish period of time in scripture is that</v>

01:32:41.840 --> 01:32:45.280
<v Speaker 3>I I think a good analog for it is a message in</v>

01:32:45.280 --> 01:32:46.880
<v Speaker 3>a bottle.</v>

01:32:46.880 --> 01:32:53.040
<v Speaker 3>The gospel was given to Adam in the garden, Genesis 3:15.</v>

01:32:53.040 --> 01:32:57.440
<v Speaker 3>There was a promise made that God was going to fix this.</v>

01:32:57.440 --> 01:33:01.520
<v Speaker 3>That was expand upon in future generations.</v>

01:33:01.520 --> 01:33:05.440
<v Speaker 3>When the day came that God came to Abraham and made the</v>

01:33:05.440 --> 01:33:09.520
<v Speaker 3>special promise to him and then wrestled with Jacob and named him</v>

01:33:09.520 --> 01:33:17.680
<v Speaker 3>Israel. And then when Moses was given the books of God,</v>

01:33:17.680 --> 01:33:18.640
<v Speaker 3>something changed.</v>

01:33:19.520 --> 01:33:22.640
<v Speaker 3>What changed was that what had been a</v>

01:33:23.600 --> 01:33:29.440
<v Speaker 3>broadly defined promise became much more narrowly defined in terms of additional</v>

01:33:29.440 --> 01:33:30.880
<v Speaker 3>promises were being made.</v>

01:33:30.880 --> 01:33:35.200
<v Speaker 3>A covenant was specifically made with Abraham and was renewed with his</v>

01:33:35.200 --> 01:33:40.080
<v Speaker 3>descendants. And I think that in some ways that covenant and the</v>

01:33:40.080 --> 01:33:44.160
<v Speaker 3>laws, the Levitical laws in particular, were were like the bottle.</v>

01:33:44.160 --> 01:33:46.320
<v Speaker 3>You know, you throw a message in the bottle and you throw</v>

01:33:46.320 --> 01:33:51.280
<v Speaker 3>it in the ocean, it's gonna bob away and then get somewhere.</v>

01:33:51.280 --> 01:33:56.400
<v Speaker 3>The function that the Levitical laws or that the the ceremonial laws</v>

01:33:56.400 --> 01:34:01.600
<v Speaker 3>had for the Israelites is that it made them weird.</v>

01:34:01.600 --> 01:34:04.160
<v Speaker 3>They had to do weird stuff with their clothing and with their</v>

01:34:04.160 --> 01:34:06.560
<v Speaker 3>food and with their their appearance.</v>

01:34:06.560 --> 01:34:10.720
<v Speaker 3>They weren't going to be permitted to mix with their neighbors because</v>

01:34:10.960 --> 01:34:15.520
<v Speaker 3>God knew that every time his people mixed with their pagan neighbors,</v>

01:34:15.520 --> 01:34:16.720
<v Speaker 3>they became pagan.</v>

01:34:16.720 --> 01:34:18.720
<v Speaker 3>There wasn't it didn't work the other way.</v>

01:34:18.720 --> 01:34:21.920
<v Speaker 3>It should have worked the other way, but they were not faithful.</v>

01:34:21.920 --> 01:34:25.760
<v Speaker 3>And so any exposure to foreign gods caused them to whore after</v>

01:34:25.760 --> 01:34:26.640
<v Speaker 3>foreign gods.</v>

01:34:26.640 --> 01:34:28.800
<v Speaker 3>That's how God describes it as whoring.</v>

01:34:28.800 --> 01:34:30.000
<v Speaker 3>And that's what it is.</v>

01:34:30.000 --> 01:34:34.720
<v Speaker 3>It's spiritual lust after that which is forbidden, which is a cheap</v>

01:34:34.720 --> 01:34:40.160
<v Speaker 3>imitation, but people's passions get inflamed and they chase that which is</v>

01:34:40.160 --> 01:34:42.640
<v Speaker 3>fake and they turn their back on that which is real.</v>

01:34:42.640 --> 01:34:43.680
<v Speaker 3>And so God knew this.</v>

01:34:43.680 --> 01:34:47.520
<v Speaker 3>And so He wrapped them in this bottle of these Levitical laws</v>

01:34:47.520 --> 01:34:49.920
<v Speaker 3>that said you have to do this with your beard and you</v>

01:34:49.920 --> 01:34:53.440
<v Speaker 3>can't eat these foods and you can't sow your grains like this</v>

01:34:53.840 --> 01:34:58.640
<v Speaker 3>and the isolation that that caused from them relative to their neighbors</v>

01:34:58.880 --> 01:35:02.800
<v Speaker 3>helped to preserve the message, which was the gospel.</v>

01:35:02.800 --> 01:35:05.360
<v Speaker 3>It was the word of God and it was the promises of</v>

01:35:05.360 --> 01:35:09.360
<v Speaker 3>the Messiah that were to be preserved through the people as well</v>

01:35:09.360 --> 01:35:10.880
<v Speaker 3>as through the bloodline.</v>

01:35:10.880 --> 01:35:16.480
<v Speaker 3>And so the word that was basically their DNA, the ACTG in</v>

01:35:16.480 --> 01:35:21.360
<v Speaker 3>their genes, that would be passed down to Jesus in the flesh,</v>

01:35:21.360 --> 01:35:24.000
<v Speaker 3>that was from Abraham's seed.</v>

01:35:24.000 --> 01:35:28.400
<v Speaker 3>And there was also the word, the spoken word, the promises of</v>

01:35:28.400 --> 01:35:30.080
<v Speaker 3>God were also passed.</v>

01:35:30.080 --> 01:35:33.200
<v Speaker 3>And that was the function that the Jews served for two thousand</v>

01:35:33.280 --> 01:35:36.160
<v Speaker 3>years. Now for two thousand years there were no Jews.</v>

01:35:36.160 --> 01:35:40.480
<v Speaker 3>And then for two thousand years from Abraham to Jesus, The Jews</v>

01:35:40.480 --> 01:35:46.560
<v Speaker 3>were in varying states of evolution preserving these messages from God so</v>

01:35:46.560 --> 01:35:51.280
<v Speaker 3>that in the day when the Messiah came and fulfilled the prophecies,</v>

01:35:51.280 --> 01:35:52.480
<v Speaker 3>everyone would know.</v>

01:35:52.480 --> 01:35:55.040
<v Speaker 3>They would have a list and they would have been studying and</v>

01:35:55.040 --> 01:35:58.320
<v Speaker 3>looking for it and being excited to see it come.</v>

01:35:58.320 --> 01:36:01.680
<v Speaker 3>So that when a man appears and heals the blind and the</v>

01:36:01.680 --> 01:36:05.600
<v Speaker 3>lame, you rejoice and you say at last the Messiah has come.</v>

01:36:05.600 --> 01:36:07.520
<v Speaker 3>That was the purpose.</v>

01:36:07.520 --> 01:36:11.360
<v Speaker 3>They did everything in their power to fail that purpose.</v>

01:36:11.360 --> 01:36:14.560
<v Speaker 3>And yet God preserved them for his ends.</v>

01:36:14.560 --> 01:36:19.520
<v Speaker 3>Because they were chosen not to be special in in some sense</v>

01:36:19.520 --> 01:36:23.040
<v Speaker 3>of its own, but to be the vessel that would preserve these</v>

01:36:23.040 --> 01:36:26.000
<v Speaker 3>promises until they were fulfilled.</v>

01:36:26.000 --> 01:36:31.760
<v Speaker 3>And one of the things it's emphasized repeatedly, particularly in Paul's epistles,</v>

01:36:31.760 --> 01:36:36.960
<v Speaker 3>is because the promises had been given to the Jews, they knew</v>

01:36:36.960 --> 01:36:37.680
<v Speaker 3>about them.</v>

01:36:37.680 --> 01:36:43.040
<v Speaker 3>Paul's very clear that when there's no knowledge, sin does not attach</v>

01:36:43.040 --> 01:36:45.040
<v Speaker 3>in the same way as when there's knowledge.</v>

01:36:45.040 --> 01:36:49.280
<v Speaker 3>And so the urgency of reaching the Jews with the gospel, especially</v>

01:36:49.280 --> 01:36:52.720
<v Speaker 3>in his day, was but they had become apostate.</v>

01:36:52.720 --> 01:36:56.400
<v Speaker 3>When the prophecies were not yet fulfilled, they could hope in their</v>

01:36:56.400 --> 01:36:59.680
<v Speaker 3>future fulfillment, but now that they had been fulfilled, it was urgent</v>

01:37:00.320 --> 01:37:04.000
<v Speaker 3>that the Jews would be told the prophecies are fulfilled, the Messiah</v>

01:37:04.000 --> 01:37:07.680
<v Speaker 3>has come, and he has died and he is living again.</v>

01:37:07.680 --> 01:37:10.400
<v Speaker 3>It was urgent for them to hear that because they were now</v>

01:37:10.400 --> 01:37:13.280
<v Speaker 3>under condemnation for refusing to believe.</v>

01:37:13.280 --> 01:37:18.000
<v Speaker 3>That's a fundamentally different thing than the the Greek or the Roman</v>

01:37:18.160 --> 01:37:21.040
<v Speaker 3>or the Ugandan or the Indian who's never heard any of this</v>

01:37:21.040 --> 01:37:25.280
<v Speaker 3>stuff. He's not in the same spiritual state as these people who</v>

01:37:25.440 --> 01:37:29.200
<v Speaker 3>for hundreds and thousands of years had been told these stories, who'd</v>

01:37:29.200 --> 01:37:32.960
<v Speaker 3>been given these promises, because the promises were made to them and</v>

01:37:32.960 --> 01:37:34.960
<v Speaker 3>through them for all.</v>

01:37:34.960 --> 01:37:38.080
<v Speaker 3>When Jesus came and fulfilled them and then they rejected them and</v>

01:37:38.080 --> 01:37:40.640
<v Speaker 3>said, His blood be on us and our children, that was the</v>

01:37:40.640 --> 01:37:42.560
<v Speaker 3>worst possible thing for them.</v>

01:37:42.560 --> 01:37:47.040
<v Speaker 3>And part of Paul's urgency to reach the Jews was to try</v>

01:37:47.040 --> 01:37:50.320
<v Speaker 3>to save them from their own wickedness, just as Peter did in</v>

01:37:50.320 --> 01:37:55.040
<v Speaker 3>this sermon, where he said, You unknowingly did this, repent.</v>

01:37:55.040 --> 01:37:57.280
<v Speaker 3>Because when they die, that's it.</v>

01:37:57.280 --> 01:38:01.040
<v Speaker 3>There's there we get to read the book today that says here's</v>

01:38:01.040 --> 01:38:03.280
<v Speaker 3>what happened bad two thousand years ago.</v>

01:38:03.280 --> 01:38:04.400
<v Speaker 3>It wasn't written yet.</v>

01:38:04.400 --> 01:38:05.440
<v Speaker 3>They were living it.</v>

01:38:05.440 --> 01:38:08.640
<v Speaker 3>And so they had the choice in their lifetime, do I believe</v>

01:38:08.640 --> 01:38:12.400
<v Speaker 3>in the promise that God has fulfilled or do I continue in</v>

01:38:12.400 --> 01:38:14.240
<v Speaker 3>my hatred of those promises?</v>

01:38:14.240 --> 01:38:17.280
<v Speaker 3>And it might not have been hatred before Christ came, but once</v>

01:38:17.280 --> 01:38:21.600
<v Speaker 3>he came, that was the proof of who was elect and who</v>

01:38:21.600 --> 01:38:23.680
<v Speaker 3>was faithless.</v>

01:38:23.760 --> 01:38:28.240
<v Speaker 2>And so on the topic of the Jews and whether or not</v>

01:38:28.240 --> 01:38:31.600
<v Speaker 2>they can convert to be Christian.</v>

01:38:31.600 --> 01:38:35.920
<v Speaker 2>We should, of course, read Romans 9, the words of Paul here,</v>

01:38:35.920 --> 01:38:40.160
<v Speaker 2>the words of the Holy Spirit, spoken, written through Paul.</v>

01:38:40.960 --> 01:38:44.320
<v Speaker 2>I am speaking the truth in Christ, I am not lying.</v>

01:38:44.320 --> 01:38:48.000
<v Speaker 2>My conscience bears me witness in the Holy Spirit, that I have</v>

01:38:48.000 --> 01:38:52.000
<v Speaker 2>great sorrow and unceasing anguish in my heart, for I could wish</v>

01:38:52.000 --> 01:38:55.040
<v Speaker 2>that I myself were accursed and cut off from Christ for the</v>

01:38:55.040 --> 01:38:59.280
<v Speaker 2>sake of my brothers, my kinsmen according to the flesh.</v>

01:38:59.520 --> 01:39:03.440
<v Speaker 2>They are Israelites, and to them belong the adoption, the glory the</v>

01:39:03.440 --> 01:39:07.280
<v Speaker 2>covenants, the giving of the law, the worship and the promises.</v>

01:39:07.520 --> 01:39:11.600
<v Speaker 2>To them belong the patriarchs, and from their race, according to the</v>

01:39:11.600 --> 01:39:15.280
<v Speaker 2>flesh, is the Christ, who is God over all, blessed for ever</v>

01:39:15.520 --> 01:39:19.440
<v Speaker 2>Amen. But it is not as though the word of God has</v>

01:39:19.440 --> 01:39:22.080
<v Speaker 2>failed, for not all who are descended from Israel</v>

01:39:22.960 --> 01:39:27.200
<v Speaker 2>belong to Israel, and not all are children of Abraham, because they</v>

01:39:27.200 --> 01:39:28.640
<v Speaker 2>are his offspring.</v>

01:39:28.640 --> 01:39:32.160
<v Speaker 2>But through Isaac shall your offspring be named.</v>

01:39:32.160 --> 01:39:35.120
<v Speaker 2>This means that it is not the children of the flesh, who</v>

01:39:35.120 --> 01:39:38.080
<v Speaker 2>are the children of God, but the children of the promise are</v>

01:39:38.080 --> 01:39:39.680
<v Speaker 2>counted as offspring.</v>

01:39:39.680 --> 01:39:43.280
<v Speaker 2>For this is what the promise said about this time next year</v>

01:39:43.280 --> 01:39:46.000
<v Speaker 2>I will return, and Sarah shall have a son.</v>

01:39:46.000 --> 01:39:50.000
<v Speaker 2>And not only so, but also when Rebecca had conceived children by</v>

01:39:50.000 --> 01:39:54.080
<v Speaker 2>one man, our forefather Isaac, though they were not yet born, and</v>

01:39:54.080 --> 01:39:57.680
<v Speaker 2>had done nothing either good or bad, in order that God's purpose</v>

01:39:57.680 --> 01:40:01.680
<v Speaker 2>of election might continue, not because of works, but because of him</v>

01:40:01.840 --> 01:40:04.000
<v Speaker 2>who calls, she was told.</v>

01:40:04.000 --> 01:40:07.920
<v Speaker 2>The older will serve the younger, as it is written, Jacob I</v>

01:40:07.920 --> 01:40:10.480
<v Speaker 2>loved, but Esau I hated.</v>

01:40:10.480 --> 01:40:11.920
<v Speaker 2>What shall we say then?</v>

01:40:11.920 --> 01:40:13.680
<v Speaker 2>Is there injustice on God's part?</v>

01:40:13.680 --> 01:40:17.600
<v Speaker 2>By no means, for he says to Moses, I will have mercy</v>

01:40:17.600 --> 01:40:20.640
<v Speaker 2>on whom I have mercy, and I will have compassion on whom</v>

01:40:20.640 --> 01:40:22.000
<v Speaker 2>I have compassion.</v>

01:40:22.000 --> 01:40:24.720
<v Speaker 2>So then it depends not on human will or exertion but on</v>

01:40:24.720 --> 01:40:26.800
<v Speaker 2>God but on God who has mercy.</v>

01:40:26.800 --> 01:40:30.320
<v Speaker 2>For the Scripture says to Pharaoh, For this very purpose I have</v>

01:40:30.320 --> 01:40:33.760
<v Speaker 2>raised you up, that I might show my power in you, and</v>

01:40:33.760 --> 01:40:36.800
<v Speaker 2>that my name might be proclaimed in all the earth.</v>

01:40:36.800 --> 01:40:40.320
<v Speaker 2>So then he has mercy on whomever he wills, and he hardens</v>

01:40:40.480 --> 01:40:42.080
<v Speaker 2>whomever he wills.</v>

01:40:42.400 --> 01:40:45.920
<v Speaker 3>I think that ties back perfectly into the the election episode that</v>

01:40:45.920 --> 01:40:46.800
<v Speaker 3>we mentioned earlier.</v>

01:40:46.800 --> 01:40:50.080
<v Speaker 3>Again, it's it's really an important one to understand this, and many</v>

01:40:50.080 --> 01:40:53.040
<v Speaker 3>of the other things we say a lot of a lot of</v>

01:40:53.040 --> 01:40:58.240
<v Speaker 3>what is misunderstood in twenty first century Christian theology is the result</v>

01:40:58.240 --> 01:41:00.800
<v Speaker 3>of a bad understanding of election.</v>

01:41:00.800 --> 01:41:02.000
<v Speaker 3>We don't take it seriously.</v>

01:41:02.000 --> 01:41:04.160
<v Speaker 3>We don't we don't think it means anything.</v>

01:41:04.160 --> 01:41:06.080
<v Speaker 3>And And neither did the Jews.</v>

01:41:06.080 --> 01:41:07.920
<v Speaker 3>I mean, that was part of the problem.</v>

01:41:07.920 --> 01:41:12.080
<v Speaker 3>They thought that being lineal sons of Abraham was all it took.</v>

01:41:12.080 --> 01:41:13.280
<v Speaker 3>That and obeying the law.</v>

01:41:13.280 --> 01:41:15.280
<v Speaker 3>You know, you keep the law and you're a child of Abraham</v>

01:41:15.360 --> 01:41:16.320
<v Speaker 3>and you're in.</v>

01:41:16.320 --> 01:41:18.240
<v Speaker 3>And everyone else is out no matter what.</v>

01:41:18.240 --> 01:41:19.520
<v Speaker 3>That's not what God said.</v>

01:41:19.520 --> 01:41:22.480
<v Speaker 3>It was never what God promised.</v>

01:41:22.480 --> 01:41:23.120
<v Speaker 3>And so</v>

01:41:24.080 --> 01:41:26.880
<v Speaker 3>as we look at these things, it's just important to remember how</v>

01:41:26.880 --> 01:41:27.840
<v Speaker 3>God speaks.</v>

01:41:27.840 --> 01:41:32.880
<v Speaker 3>He talks about them being important for these purposes, but it wasn't</v>

01:41:32.880 --> 01:41:34.800
<v Speaker 3>they were not a purpose unto themselves.</v>

01:41:34.800 --> 01:41:37.520
<v Speaker 3>The Jews didn't exist for the sake of the Jews.</v>

01:41:37.520 --> 01:41:38.880
<v Speaker 3>They do today.</v>

01:41:38.880 --> 01:41:43.120
<v Speaker 3>And frankly, in most times in history they did.</v>

01:41:43.120 --> 01:41:47.200
<v Speaker 3>The few glory days that Israel had were the few days when</v>

01:41:47.200 --> 01:41:48.720
<v Speaker 3>they were being faithful.</v>

01:41:48.720 --> 01:41:50.000
<v Speaker 3>It wasn't much.</v>

01:41:50.000 --> 01:41:55.040
<v Speaker 3>You had a period under David, a period under Solomon, and precious</v>

01:41:55.040 --> 01:41:57.760
<v Speaker 3>few other times where there were really glory periods.</v>

01:41:57.760 --> 01:42:03.040
<v Speaker 3>The rest was punishment from God for faithlessness.</v>

01:42:03.440 --> 01:42:06.720
<v Speaker 3>I want to end here with a passage from John 8 that</v>

01:42:06.720 --> 01:42:11.360
<v Speaker 3>um it comes up every year when Easter rolls around because it's</v>

01:42:11.680 --> 01:42:16.080
<v Speaker 3>something that the Jews to this day explicitly condemn.</v>

01:42:16.080 --> 01:42:20.560
<v Speaker 3>Whenever you hear a Jew talking about Christianity, they will bring up</v>

01:42:20.560 --> 01:42:23.760
<v Speaker 3>John, John 8, particularly John eight forty four, but I'm going to</v>

01:42:23.760 --> 01:42:26.480
<v Speaker 3>read the whole passage to put it in context.</v>

01:42:26.480 --> 01:42:29.360
<v Speaker 3>We're going to talk next week about some of the early church</v>

01:42:29.360 --> 01:42:34.960
<v Speaker 3>fathers and some of the quotes and sermons that are called anti-Semitic,</v>

01:42:34.960 --> 01:42:38.320
<v Speaker 3>where were the notion arose that</v>

01:42:39.840 --> 01:42:43.520
<v Speaker 3>you know that that's basically a a term of blasphemy to say</v>

01:42:43.520 --> 01:42:45.440
<v Speaker 3>you were blaspheming against something.</v>

01:42:45.440 --> 01:42:49.600
<v Speaker 3>And when something is called anti-Semitic, you're saying you're blaspheming the Jews.</v>

01:42:49.600 --> 01:42:51.600
<v Speaker 3>Well, that is a religion.</v>

01:42:51.840 --> 01:42:54.720
<v Speaker 3>to have that sort of blasphemy law is indeed a religion, but</v>

01:42:54.720 --> 01:42:56.400
<v Speaker 3>it's not the Christian religion.</v>

01:42:56.400 --> 01:42:58.320
<v Speaker 3>A Christian can only blaspheme God.</v>

01:42:58.320 --> 01:43:00.000
<v Speaker 3>We can't blaspheme anything else.</v>

01:43:00.000 --> 01:43:04.000
<v Speaker 3>No Now, there are ways that we can blaspheme God that don't</v>

01:43:04.000 --> 01:43:06.800
<v Speaker 3>necessarily involve that which is overt.</v>

01:43:06.800 --> 01:43:09.920
<v Speaker 3>So I'm not trying to draw a fuzzy line here where there's</v>

01:43:09.840 --> 01:43:11.200
<v Speaker 3>a clear one.</v>

01:43:11.200 --> 01:43:11.520
<v Speaker 3>But</v>

01:43:12.480 --> 01:43:14.800
<v Speaker 3>we don't get to speak in ways that God doesn't speak.</v>

01:43:14.960 --> 01:43:18.720
<v Speaker 3>So I'm gonna read this passage from John eight to close because</v>

01:43:19.120 --> 01:43:24.240
<v Speaker 3>it's one that's despised and it's one that frankly makes Christians uncomfortable</v>

01:43:24.240 --> 01:43:25.200
<v Speaker 3>this day.</v>

01:43:25.200 --> 01:43:26.880
<v Speaker 3>And that really concerns us.</v>

01:43:26.880 --> 01:43:28.880
<v Speaker 3>I mean that's why Stone Choir exists.</v>

01:43:28.880 --> 01:43:31.440
<v Speaker 3>If there's a passage in scripture that you can read to Christians</v>

01:43:31.600 --> 01:43:35.280
<v Speaker 3>and Christians start squirming, you have a problem.</v>

01:43:35.280 --> 01:43:39.360
<v Speaker 3>Forget anybody else in the world, forget any other opinions you might</v>

01:43:39.360 --> 01:43:43.360
<v Speaker 3>have. If If you are uncomfortable us about something in Scripture, you</v>

01:43:43.360 --> 01:43:46.880
<v Speaker 3>have a spiritual problem.</v>

01:43:46.880 --> 01:43:48.560
<v Speaker 3>So John eight.</v>

01:43:48.720 --> 01:43:51.840
<v Speaker 3>Jesus said to the Jews who had believed him, If you abide</v>

01:43:51.840 --> 01:43:54.320
<v Speaker 3>in my word you are truly my disciples, and you will know</v>

01:43:54.320 --> 01:43:56.480
<v Speaker 3>the truth, and the truth will set you free.</v>

01:43:56.480 --> 01:43:57.520
<v Speaker 3>They answered him.</v>

01:43:57.520 --> 01:44:00.960
<v Speaker 3>We are offspring of Abraham, and have never been enslaved to anyone.</v>

01:44:00.960 --> 01:44:03.600
<v Speaker 3>How is it you say you will become free?</v>

01:44:03.600 --> 01:44:04.960
<v Speaker 3>Jesus answers them.</v>

01:44:05.440 --> 01:44:09.120
<v Speaker 3>truly I say to you, everyone who practices sin is a slave</v>

01:44:09.120 --> 01:44:09.840
<v Speaker 3>to sin.</v>

01:44:09.840 --> 01:44:12.960
<v Speaker 3>The slave does not remain in the house forever, the sun remains</v>

01:44:12.960 --> 01:44:16.240
<v Speaker 3>forever. So if the sun sets you free you will be free</v>

01:44:16.240 --> 01:44:20.240
<v Speaker 3>indeed. I know that you're offspring of Abraham, yet you seek to</v>

01:44:20.240 --> 01:44:23.440
<v Speaker 3>kill me, because my word finds no place in you.</v>

01:44:23.440 --> 01:44:26.400
<v Speaker 3>I speak of what I have seen with my father, and you</v>

01:44:26.400 --> 01:44:29.040
<v Speaker 3>do what you have heard from your father.</v>

01:44:29.200 --> 01:44:33.440
<v Speaker 3>They answered him Abraham is our father, Jesus said to them, If</v>

01:44:33.440 --> 01:44:36.720
<v Speaker 3>you were Abraham's children you would be doing the works Abraham did,</v>

01:44:36.720 --> 01:44:39.600
<v Speaker 3>but now you seek to kill me, a man who has told</v>

01:44:39.600 --> 01:44:41.520
<v Speaker 3>you the truth that I heard from God.</v>

01:44:41.520 --> 01:44:43.360
<v Speaker 3>This is not what Abraham did.</v>

01:44:43.360 --> 01:44:45.840
<v Speaker 3>You were doing the works your father did.</v>

01:44:45.840 --> 01:44:49.280
<v Speaker 3>They said to him, We are not born of sexual immorality, we</v>

01:44:49.280 --> 01:44:51.120
<v Speaker 3>have one Father, even God.</v>

01:44:51.120 --> 01:44:54.400
<v Speaker 3>Jesus said to them, If God were your father, you would love</v>

01:44:54.400 --> 01:44:56.720
<v Speaker 3>me, for I came from God and I am here.</v>

01:44:56.720 --> 01:44:59.360
<v Speaker 3>I came not of my own accord, but he sent me.</v>

01:44:59.360 --> 01:45:01.600
<v Speaker 3>Why do you not understand what I say?</v>

01:45:01.600 --> 01:45:04.320
<v Speaker 3>It is because you cannot bear to hear my word.</v>

01:45:04.320 --> 01:45:07.360
<v Speaker 3>You are of your father the devil, and your will is to</v>

01:45:07.360 --> 01:45:08.960
<v Speaker 3>do your father's desires.</v>

01:45:08.960 --> 01:45:11.360
<v Speaker 3>He was a murderer from the beginning, and he does not stand</v>

01:45:12.000 --> 01:45:14.640
<v Speaker 3>in the truth, because there is no truth in him.</v>

01:45:14.640 --> 01:45:17.440
<v Speaker 3>When he lies he speaks out of his own character, for he</v>

01:45:17.440 --> 01:45:21.120
<v Speaker 3>is a liar and the father of lies.</v>

01:45:21.120 --> 01:45:24.080
<v Speaker 3>But because I tell you the truth, you do not believe me.</v>

01:45:24.080 --> 01:45:26.480
<v Speaker 3>Which one of you convicts me of sin if I tell the</v>

01:45:26.480 --> 01:45:28.480
<v Speaker 3>truth? Why do you not believe me?</v>

01:45:28.480 --> 01:45:31.120
<v Speaker 3>Whoever is of God hears the words of God.</v>

01:45:31.120 --> 01:45:34.000
<v Speaker 3>The reason why you do not hear them is that you are</v>

01:45:34.000 --> 01:45:34.960
<v Speaker 3>not of God</v>

01:45:38.000 --> 01:45:42.000
<v Speaker 3>This is a profound passage because Jesus is speaking directly to a</v>

01:45:42.000 --> 01:45:46.960
<v Speaker 3>crowd of Jews and He's telling them, You are Satan's children.</v>

01:45:46.960 --> 01:45:50.240
<v Speaker 3>You are deaf to my voice because you were born of the</v>

01:45:50.240 --> 01:45:51.600
<v Speaker 3>father of lies.</v>

01:45:51.600 --> 01:45:54.960
<v Speaker 3>Even as they stand there and they make claims of lineage, and</v>

01:45:54.960 --> 01:45:59.360
<v Speaker 3>claims of being sons of Abraham, and claims of righteousness, he says</v>

01:45:59.440 --> 01:46:00.720
<v Speaker 3>you have none of those things.</v>

01:46:00.720 --> 01:46:04.080
<v Speaker 3>You do not do Abraham's works because you do not have Abraham's</v>

01:46:04.080 --> 01:46:07.280
<v Speaker 3>faith, which was the root of election.</v>

01:46:07.280 --> 01:46:11.760
<v Speaker 3>Abraham had faith, and it was counted to him as righteousness.</v>

01:46:11.760 --> 01:46:13.680
<v Speaker 3>The circumcision came after.</v>

01:46:13.680 --> 01:46:17.520
<v Speaker 3>The circumcision was not what made him righteous, he was circumcised because</v>

01:46:17.520 --> 01:46:18.400
<v Speaker 3>he was righteous.</v>

01:46:18.400 --> 01:46:21.600
<v Speaker 3>He was righteous and therefore he obeyed God.</v>

01:46:21.600 --> 01:46:24.000
<v Speaker 3>The order of operations matters.</v>

01:46:24.000 --> 01:46:27.360
<v Speaker 3>And Jesus understood that Jesus is God, as he said, when he</v>

01:46:27.360 --> 01:46:30.240
<v Speaker 3>came to him and he did his father's things and they hated</v>

01:46:30.240 --> 01:46:33.120
<v Speaker 3>it, it's because they are of their father.</v>

01:46:33.120 --> 01:46:37.600
<v Speaker 3>When there is a man today, whether it's two thousand years ago</v>

01:46:37.600 --> 01:46:41.760
<v Speaker 3>or today, when a man hates the things of God, that man</v>

01:46:41.760 --> 01:46:42.800
<v Speaker 3>is of Satan.</v>

01:46:44.000 --> 01:46:45.680
<v Speaker 3>It's not all Jews today.</v>

01:46:45.680 --> 01:46:48.560
<v Speaker 3>There are a few Jews who actually become Christian and cease to</v>

01:46:48.560 --> 01:46:51.920
<v Speaker 3>be Jews, and there are many who are not Jews who are</v>

01:46:51.920 --> 01:46:53.520
<v Speaker 3>enemies of God today.</v>

01:46:53.520 --> 01:46:56.560
<v Speaker 3>And today in our own churches, we have these same Jews.</v>

01:46:56.560 --> 01:46:59.600
<v Speaker 3>They don't go by the name Jew, but they hate God just</v>

01:46:59.600 --> 01:47:00.320
<v Speaker 3>as much.</v>

01:47:00.320 --> 01:47:02.480
<v Speaker 3>They will thump their genealogy.</v>

01:47:02.480 --> 01:47:04.640
<v Speaker 3>It won't be the genealogy of Abraham.</v>

01:47:04.640 --> 01:47:08.480
<v Speaker 3>It will be the genealogy of some confession, a confession which points</v>

01:47:08.640 --> 01:47:11.360
<v Speaker 3>God faithfully, but they will ignore that part.</v>

01:47:11.360 --> 01:47:15.680
<v Speaker 3>They will just use whatever they can as an anchor to make</v>

01:47:15.680 --> 01:47:18.880
<v Speaker 3>themselves a participant in something where they are not participants.</v>

01:47:18.880 --> 01:47:22.640
<v Speaker 3>You can only participate in God's things if you were God's child.</v>

01:47:22.640 --> 01:47:25.600
<v Speaker 3>And you're only his child by adoption through faith.</v>

01:47:25.600 --> 01:47:28.720
<v Speaker 3>Those who do not have faith are not adopted sons of God.</v>

01:47:28.720 --> 01:47:31.200
<v Speaker 3>They remain children of Satan.</v>

01:47:31.200 --> 01:47:35.200
<v Speaker 3>And so as you see people in the world reacting to God's</v>

01:47:35.200 --> 01:47:39.440
<v Speaker 3>things, many times in this preaching, whether it's from Jesus or Peter</v>

01:47:39.440 --> 01:47:42.720
<v Speaker 3>or Paul or any other man, when they preach, some of the</v>

01:47:42.720 --> 01:47:43.920
<v Speaker 3>people were confused.</v>

01:47:43.920 --> 01:47:47.760
<v Speaker 3>They it wasn't ignorant confusion, it wasn't a confusion born of a</v>

01:47:47.760 --> 01:47:48.880
<v Speaker 3>lack of faith.</v>

01:47:48.880 --> 01:47:51.120
<v Speaker 3>They were hearing something for the first time and they didn't know</v>

01:47:51.120 --> 01:47:52.400
<v Speaker 3>what to make of it.</v>

01:47:52.400 --> 01:47:53.920
<v Speaker 3>That's okay.</v>

01:47:53.920 --> 01:47:56.400
<v Speaker 3>That there's hope for that man.</v>

01:47:56.400 --> 01:48:00.000
<v Speaker 3>Some believed immediately, some all already believed.</v>

01:48:00.000 --> 01:48:01.840
<v Speaker 3>Those are saved.</v>

01:48:01.840 --> 01:48:05.840
<v Speaker 3>The rest, and frankly the majority, in Jesus' day and in our</v>

01:48:05.840 --> 01:48:09.200
<v Speaker 3>day, hear the things of God and they react by saying, You</v>

01:48:09.200 --> 01:48:13.840
<v Speaker 3>have a demon, you are evil There's no middle ground when you're</v>

01:48:13.840 --> 01:48:16.480
<v Speaker 3>dealing with people who are possessed by the devil.</v>

01:48:16.480 --> 01:48:19.840
<v Speaker 3>They know when they're dealing with the Son of God, and their</v>

01:48:19.840 --> 01:48:21.440
<v Speaker 3>reactions are violent.</v>

01:48:21.440 --> 01:48:23.920
<v Speaker 3>They're filled with hatred.</v>

01:48:23.920 --> 01:48:27.520
<v Speaker 3>We should expect that when we are faithful to God, there will</v>

01:48:27.520 --> 01:48:30.320
<v Speaker 3>be times when it elicits those same responses.</v>

01:48:30.320 --> 01:48:33.760
<v Speaker 3>That is not that there's been some miscommunication.</v>

01:48:33.760 --> 01:48:36.480
<v Speaker 3>It's not that we should have been more winsome, we should have</v>

01:48:36.480 --> 01:48:37.280
<v Speaker 3>been nicer.</v>

01:48:37.280 --> 01:48:41.280
<v Speaker 3>It's not that if we'd only use different words they would understand.</v>

01:48:41.280 --> 01:48:44.800
<v Speaker 3>It's that we are of our Father in heaven and they are</v>

01:48:44.800 --> 01:48:46.560
<v Speaker 3>of their Father the devil.</v>

01:48:46.560 --> 01:48:49.520
<v Speaker 3>You will face this in your lives if you're faithful Christians.</v>

01:48:49.520 --> 01:48:51.920
<v Speaker 3>If you just if you hide and and try to ride it</v>

01:48:51.920 --> 01:48:55.600
<v Speaker 3>out, it's not gonna work, but you'll you'll learn that the hard</v>

01:48:55.600 --> 01:48:57.840
<v Speaker 3>way. You are going to have to take a stand for Christ</v>

01:48:57.920 --> 01:49:00.240
<v Speaker 3>and there there will be days when that hurts.</v>

01:49:00.240 --> 01:49:03.840
<v Speaker 3>There will be days where you suffer for it and you were</v>

01:49:03.840 --> 01:49:04.960
<v Speaker 3>hated to your face</v>

01:49:05.840 --> 01:49:08.960
<v Speaker 3>because that is the state that the world is in.</v>

01:49:08.960 --> 01:49:13.120
<v Speaker 3>The father of lies, the father of Jews is running the show</v>

01:49:13.120 --> 01:49:16.800
<v Speaker 3>today. There's not much left of the faithful remnant.</v>

01:49:16.800 --> 01:49:20.720
<v Speaker 3>It exists and it will always exist, but only because God promised</v>

01:49:20.720 --> 01:49:22.480
<v Speaker 3>it and God will preserve it.</v>

01:49:22.480 --> 01:49:24.480
<v Speaker 3>God will preserve his people.</v>

01:49:24.480 --> 01:49:27.680
<v Speaker 3>Everyone else is gonna try to kill us.</v>

01:49:27.680 --> 01:49:28.880
<v Speaker 3>That's good news.</v>

01:49:28.880 --> 01:49:30.480
<v Speaker 3>It means that we're on the right side.</v>

01:49:30.480 --> 01:49:33.200
<v Speaker 3>It means that we're on God's side and God is on our</v>

01:49:33.200 --> 01:49:36.240
<v Speaker 3>side. That's the thing we have to worry about.</v>

01:49:36.240 --> 01:49:39.120
<v Speaker 3>So don't be afraid of topics that seem scary.</v>

01:49:39.120 --> 01:49:41.920
<v Speaker 3>Be afraid of the fact that a topic that seems scary is</v>

01:49:41.920 --> 01:49:44.560
<v Speaker 3>scary in the first place, because it shouldn't be.</v>

01:49:44.560 --> 01:49:46.960
<v Speaker 3>The truth should not scare Christians.</v>

01:49:46.960 --> 01:49:51.200
<v Speaker 3>When someone's afraid of the truth, that person has a bigger problem.</v>

01:49:51.200 --> 01:49:54.800
<v Speaker 3>And we've said before, these are not problems that a podcast can</v>

01:49:54.800 --> 01:49:57.040
<v Speaker 3>solve. You need to spend time in the Word.</v>

01:49:57.040 --> 01:50:01.600
<v Speaker 3>You need to spend time studying scripture and contemplating and meditating on</v>

01:50:01.600 --> 01:50:02.320
<v Speaker 3>these things.</v>

01:50:02.320 --> 01:50:05.360
<v Speaker 3>And be aware in your life, not just on Sunday, not just</v>

01:50:05.360 --> 01:50:08.560
<v Speaker 3>in Bible class, be aware every every day of where you're seeing</v>

01:50:08.560 --> 01:50:10.000
<v Speaker 3>these things playing out.</v>

01:50:10.000 --> 01:50:13.680
<v Speaker 3>And you will find that there's a spiritual tenor to things that</v>

01:50:13.680 --> 01:50:16.640
<v Speaker 3>don't necessarily have a spiritual context.</v>

01:50:16.640 --> 01:50:20.720
<v Speaker 3>Your workplace is going to have a spiritual tenor to things where</v>

01:50:21.040 --> 01:50:23.920
<v Speaker 3>maybe 20 years ago it didn't, or if it did, it wasn't</v>

01:50:23.920 --> 01:50:24.880
<v Speaker 3>at all obvious.</v>

01:50:24.880 --> 01:50:26.640
<v Speaker 3>Today it's gonna be obvious.</v>

01:50:26.640 --> 01:50:30.080
<v Speaker 3>This is where the battleground is, and this is where we will</v>

01:50:30.080 --> 01:50:33.360
<v Speaker 3>prove ourselves to either be faithful children of God or to be</v>

01:50:33.360 --> 01:50:34.320
<v Speaker 3>sons of Satan.</v>

01:50:34.320 --> 01:50:37.040
<v Speaker 3>As Christians, we have only one choice.</v>

01:50:37.040 --> 01:50:40.720
<v Speaker 3>And as we see others respond, we see them choosing as well.</v>

01:50:40.720 --> 01:50:43.200
<v Speaker 3>All these sermons that were delivered in the old in the New</v>

01:50:43.360 --> 01:50:46.240
<v Speaker 3>Testament served a winnowing function.</v>

01:50:46.240 --> 01:50:51.360
<v Speaker 3>Many wandered away from Jesus preaching, upset or confused or angry, a</v>

01:50:51.360 --> 01:50:53.600
<v Speaker 3>few stuck around because they believed.</v>

01:50:53.600 --> 01:50:56.080
<v Speaker 3>The same math is going to work out today.</v>

01:50:56.080 --> 01:50:58.560
<v Speaker 3>Be one of the few who sticks around and believes in God,</v>

01:50:58.560 --> 01:51:01.360
<v Speaker 3>because on the last day he is going to welcome each of</v>

01:51:01.360 --> 01:51:02.480
<v Speaker 3>us.</v>

01:51:02.480 --> 01:51:02.640
And

01:51:02.640 --> 01:51:05.360
<v Speaker 2>so I want to close out this episode by going over</v>

01:51:06.640 --> 01:51:13.280
<v Speaker 2>a seemingly minor technical matter, but something that is really at the</v>

01:51:13.280 --> 01:51:17.920
<v Speaker 2>foundation of all of this for this series of episodes and many</v>

01:51:17.920 --> 01:51:24.000
<v Speaker 2>of the others as well, and that is the word concept fallacy.</v>

01:51:24.000 --> 01:51:28.320
<v Speaker 2>This is really in a sense, related to the idea of essence</v>

01:51:28.320 --> 01:51:29.200
<v Speaker 2>and accident.</v>

01:51:29.200 --> 01:51:31.600
<v Speaker 2>Those who understand those terms can tie that together.</v>

01:51:31.600 --> 01:51:33.520
<v Speaker 2>I won't go over that bit.</v>

01:51:33.520 --> 01:51:37.760
<v Speaker 2>But the word concept fallacy has two essential forms.</v>

01:51:37.760 --> 01:51:41.840
<v Speaker 2>The first one is that you believe you've studied a word and</v>

01:51:41.840 --> 01:51:44.000
<v Speaker 2>therefore you understand the concept.</v>

01:51:44.000 --> 01:51:47.200
<v Speaker 2>That's a fallacy you can study a word without understanding the concept</v>

01:51:47.200 --> 01:51:48.800
<v Speaker 2>to which it refers.</v>

01:51:48.800 --> 01:51:52.400
<v Speaker 2>But the second one, and perhaps the more important one here, is</v>

01:51:53.120 --> 01:51:56.160
<v Speaker 2>the conflation of the two things.</v>

01:51:56.160 --> 01:52:01.120
<v Speaker 2>The conflation of the word that symbolizes the concept and the concept</v>

01:52:01.120 --> 01:52:06.640
<v Speaker 2>itself. That is what we have happening in many of these issues.</v>

01:52:06.640 --> 01:52:10.960
<v Speaker 2>For instance, with the term Jew, there are those who will use</v>

01:52:11.200 --> 01:52:16.000
<v Speaker 2>the term and then conflate it with the concept, and there are</v>

01:52:16.000 --> 01:52:18.080
<v Speaker 2>several different concepts it covers.</v>

01:52:18.080 --> 01:52:23.120
<v Speaker 2>You can be Jewish by blood, you can be Jewish by religion.</v>

01:52:23.120 --> 01:52:25.040
<v Speaker 2>Those are not the same thing.</v>

01:52:25.040 --> 01:52:29.920
<v Speaker 2>If you conflate those and then say the term always refers to</v>

01:52:30.080 --> 01:52:33.840
<v Speaker 2>one or the other or both, you are You are running afoul</v>

01:52:34.000 --> 01:52:37.840
<v Speaker 2>of this fallacy, you are committing this error.</v>

01:52:37.840 --> 01:52:41.200
<v Speaker 2>And so it is important to understand the sense in which the</v>

01:52:41.200 --> 01:52:46.400
<v Speaker 2>terms are being used, but perhaps more relevant to us as Christians</v>

01:52:46.560 --> 01:52:49.840
<v Speaker 2>and more in our own backyard.</v>

01:52:49.840 --> 01:52:52.800
<v Speaker 2>For instance, if you are holding a Bible and the book of</v>

01:52:52.800 --> 01:52:56.640
<v Speaker 2>Concord, that doesn't make you a Lutheran.</v>

01:52:56.640 --> 01:53:00.720
<v Speaker 2>If you just say that, well, I have these and I believe</v>

01:53:00.720 --> 01:53:04.480
<v Speaker 2>them, that still doesn't make you a Lutheran.</v>

01:53:04.480 --> 01:53:08.960
<v Speaker 2>If you believe them, that makes you a Lutheran.</v>

01:53:09.280 --> 01:53:14.080
<v Speaker 2>Now, some will have brought to mind the idea of well, that's</v>

01:53:14.080 --> 01:53:17.760
<v Speaker 2>no true Scotsman fallacy, but it's not.</v>

01:53:17.760 --> 01:53:22.080
<v Speaker 2>And that's where that accident and essence issue comes in.</v>

01:53:22.080 --> 01:53:26.720
<v Speaker 2>There are things that you are essentially, and there are things that</v>

01:53:26.720 --> 01:53:30.720
<v Speaker 2>you are not essentially, they can change.</v>

01:53:30.720 --> 01:53:35.680
<v Speaker 2>If you are male, you are essentially male, that cannot change.</v>

01:53:35.680 --> 01:53:38.080
<v Speaker 2>You aren't male because you believe you're male.</v>

01:53:38.080 --> 01:53:40.560
<v Speaker 2>You aren't male because you call yourself male.</v>

01:53:40.560 --> 01:53:43.200
<v Speaker 2>You aren't male because you put pronouns at the end of your</v>

01:53:43.200 --> 01:53:44.160
<v Speaker 2>email signature.</v>

01:53:44.160 --> 01:53:45.360
<v Speaker 2>That's not how that works.</v>

01:53:45.360 --> 01:53:47.280
<v Speaker 2>That is something you are essentially.</v>

01:53:47.280 --> 01:53:48.960
<v Speaker 2>The same is true of your race.</v>

01:53:49.840 --> 01:53:53.600
<v Speaker 2>If you are German, you are German because your parents were German.</v>

01:53:53.600 --> 01:53:56.480
<v Speaker 2>If you are English, you are English because your parents were English,</v>

01:53:56.480 --> 01:53:58.160
<v Speaker 2>the same for any race.</v>

01:53:58.160 --> 01:54:01.120
<v Speaker 2>That is something you are essentially.</v>

01:54:01.120 --> 01:54:01.680
<v Speaker 2>You are not</v>

01:54:02.640 --> 01:54:05.200
<v Speaker 2>essentially a Christian</v>

01:54:06.160 --> 01:54:09.920
<v Speaker 2>because you may not have been a Christian as a child.</v>

01:54:09.920 --> 01:54:11.760
<v Speaker 2>You could apostatize.</v>

01:54:11.760 --> 01:54:15.120
<v Speaker 2>That can change, and therefore it is not in this sense of</v>

01:54:15.120 --> 01:54:18.000
<v Speaker 2>the term essential.</v>

01:54:18.000 --> 01:54:22.480
<v Speaker 2>And so when you are dealing with the no true Scotsman issue,</v>

01:54:22.480 --> 01:54:26.800
<v Speaker 2>that only applies to things that are essential, and that's why it's</v>

01:54:26.800 --> 01:54:28.800
<v Speaker 2>no true Scotsman.</v>

01:54:28.800 --> 01:54:30.320
<v Speaker 2>Because that is race.</v>

01:54:30.320 --> 01:54:30.960
<v Speaker 2>That is blood.</v>

01:54:30.960 --> 01:54:32.240
<v Speaker 2>You cannot change that.</v>

01:54:32.240 --> 01:54:35.120
<v Speaker 2>And so if you say no true Scotsman would wear pink and</v>

01:54:35.120 --> 01:54:38.720
<v Speaker 2>you find a Scotsman by blood who's wearing pink, well you can't</v>

01:54:38.720 --> 01:54:40.880
<v Speaker 2>just say, well no true Scotsman.</v>

01:54:41.600 --> 01:54:44.480
<v Speaker 2>Because you found a true Scotsman who's wearing pink.</v>

01:54:44.480 --> 01:54:48.080
<v Speaker 2>Now there are other issues here, there's some nuance I could go</v>

01:54:48.080 --> 01:54:52.000
<v Speaker 2>into, but we'll leave that aside for now.</v>

01:54:52.000 --> 01:54:56.480
<v Speaker 2>The issue here is that when you are dealing with Christianity, when</v>

01:54:56.480 --> 01:54:59.200
<v Speaker 2>you are dealing with religion, when you're dealing with a confession or</v>

01:54:59.200 --> 01:55:04.160
<v Speaker 2>a political party, anything like that, these things have tenets.</v>

01:55:04.160 --> 01:55:08.240
<v Speaker 2>They have doctrines, they have things they profess, things they assert that</v>

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<v Speaker 2>are true.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>If you believe those things, you belong to that group.</v>

01:55:12.960 --> 01:55:15.440
<v Speaker 2>Because that is what defines the group.</v>

01:55:15.440 --> 01:55:20.400
<v Speaker 2>Being a Scotsman is defined by blood, not by what color you</v>

01:55:20.400 --> 01:55:25.440
<v Speaker 2>wear or which pattern you wear, whatever it happens to be.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>That is not the case with Christianity.</v>

01:55:29.200 --> 01:55:34.160
<v Speaker 2>To be a Christian, you must believe the things that scripture teaches.</v>

01:55:34.160 --> 01:55:36.480
<v Speaker 2>That is what it means to be a Christian.</v>

01:55:36.480 --> 01:55:41.040
<v Speaker 2>A Christian has faith in Christ, in the saving blood of Christ,</v>

01:55:41.040 --> 01:55:43.760
<v Speaker 2>in his atonement, in his sacrifice.</v>

01:55:43.760 --> 01:55:45.600
<v Speaker 2>That is what it means to be a Christian.</v>

01:55:45.920 --> 01:55:48.720
<v Speaker 2>Being a Christian does not mean holding up the Bible and waving</v>

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<v Speaker 2>it at people.</v>

01:55:49.520 --> 01:55:51.040
<v Speaker 2>That doesn't make you a Christian.</v>

01:55:51.040 --> 01:55:54.080
<v Speaker 2>Being a Lutheran doesn't mean holding up the book of Concord and</v>

01:55:54.080 --> 01:55:55.040
<v Speaker 2>waving it at people.</v>

01:55:55.040 --> 01:55:58.320
<v Speaker 2>Being reformed doesn't mean holding up the Westminster Confession and waving it</v>

01:55:58.320 --> 01:55:58.560
<v Speaker 2>at people.</v>

01:55:58.720 --> 01:56:02.400
<v Speaker 2>People, whichever group it is, you have to actually believe the contents</v>

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<v Speaker 2>of that book.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>And so if someone tells you, well of course I'm ex</v>

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<v Speaker 2>of course I'm this kind of Christian.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>Look, I have the collar and the book, and that's not what</v>

01:56:14.000 --> 01:56:15.040
<v Speaker 2>it means.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>What does he actually believe?</v>

01:56:16.560 --> 01:56:17.760
<v Speaker 2>What does he actually teach?</v>

01:56:17.760 --> 01:56:19.920
<v Speaker 2>What does he do in his life?</v>

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<v Speaker 2>It is the same thing with the Jews.</v>

01:56:22.240 --> 01:56:25.600
<v Speaker 2>There are Jews who can convert to Christianity and no longer be</v>

01:56:25.600 --> 01:56:27.200
<v Speaker 2>a Jew and be Christian.</v>

01:56:27.200 --> 01:56:31.600
<v Speaker 2>There are Christians who can be apostate in everything they do and</v>

01:56:31.600 --> 01:56:34.560
<v Speaker 2>still claim to be Christian.</v>

01:56:34.560 --> 01:56:36.800
<v Speaker 2>Simply labeling yourself with the term</v>

01:56:37.760 --> 01:56:39.600
<v Speaker 2>does not make you the thing.</v>

01:56:39.600 --> 01:56:43.280
<v Speaker 2>One would think that Christians living in an era when we have</v>

01:56:43.280 --> 01:56:46.000
<v Speaker 2>men claiming to be women and women claiming to be men and</v>

01:56:46.000 --> 01:56:49.520
<v Speaker 2>people claiming to be dogs and whatever else is happening out there,</v>

01:56:49.520 --> 01:56:52.800
<v Speaker 2>one would think it would be obvious that simply claiming to be</v>

01:56:52.800 --> 01:56:57.360
<v Speaker 2>a thing does not make you the thing.</v>

01:56:57.360 --> 01:57:02.160
<v Speaker 2>And yet pastors and many others constantly get away with doing so.</v>

01:57:02.160 --> 01:57:05.440
<v Speaker 2>That not let them get away with it.</v>

01:57:05.440 --> 01:57:09.440
<v Speaker 2>Simply claiming that you are X does not make you X.</v>

01:57:09.440 --> 01:57:13.440
<v Speaker 2>Simply claiming that you are Christian does not make you Christian.</v>

01:57:13.440 --> 01:57:17.840
<v Speaker 2>Being a Christian means believing the Word of God, trusting in Christ</v>

01:57:17.840 --> 01:57:20.720
<v Speaker 2>as your Lord and Savior.</v>

01:57:20.720 --> 01:57:25.520
<v Speaker 2>And yes, it does also mean rejecting the various teachings of the</v>

01:57:25.520 --> 01:57:31.600
<v Speaker 2>devil. That is why, as Lutherans, for instance, in our confirmation oath,</v>

01:57:31.600 --> 01:57:34.880
<v Speaker 2>we reject the devil in all his works and all his ways</v>

01:57:35.680 --> 01:57:39.120
<v Speaker 2>because that is part of what it means to be a Christian.</v>

01:57:39.120 --> 01:57:43.760
<v Speaker 2>And so when the Jews told Christ, We're descended from Abraham, we've</v>

01:57:43.760 --> 01:57:47.600
<v Speaker 2>never been slaves, of course we're saved, of course we're elect.</v>

01:57:47.600 --> 01:57:49.840
<v Speaker 2>That's not what it means.</v>

01:57:49.840 --> 01:57:53.600
<v Speaker 2>That's why in Romans it says not all who are descended from</v>

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<v Speaker 2>Israel belong to Israel, those are two different things.</v>

01:57:57.920 --> 01:58:03.280
<v Speaker 2>The first is the essential, that's race, descended from Israel.</v>

01:58:03.280 --> 01:58:06.240
<v Speaker 2>The second is belong to Israel.</v>

01:58:06.240 --> 01:58:09.680
<v Speaker 2>That's Christians, that's the church.</v>

01:58:09.680 --> 01:58:14.480
<v Speaker 2>You can be descended from Israel by blood and not belong to</v>

01:58:14.480 --> 01:58:17.440
<v Speaker 2>Israel, the church by faith.</v>

01:58:17.440 --> 01:58:21.520
<v Speaker 2>You can belong to Israel, the church by faith, and not be</v>

01:58:21.520 --> 01:58:26.480
<v Speaker 2>descended from Israel, the man by blood.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>Being a Christian is a matter of faith.</v>

01:58:30.720 --> 01:58:32.800
<v Speaker 2>That is the core of what we believe.</v>

01:58:32.800 --> 01:58:34.720
<v Speaker 2>That is why we call it of faith</v>

01:58:36.480 --> 01:58:41.520
<v Speaker 2>Believe the words of God as they are written in his book.</v>

01:58:41.520 --> 01:58:43.920
<v Speaker 2>Don't water them down for the world.</v>

01:58:43.920 --> 01:58:46.720
<v Speaker 2>Don't ignore them because they're uncomfortable.</v>

01:58:46.720 --> 01:58:49.440
<v Speaker 2>Don't start editing the scripture because it makes you uncomfortable</v>

01:58:50.320 --> 01:58:52.160
<v Speaker 2>or it makes your life more difficult.</v>

01:58:52.160 --> 01:58:55.280
<v Speaker 2>As Christians we are called to proclaim the truth in season and</v>

01:58:55.280 --> 01:58:56.960
<v Speaker 2>out of season.</v>

01:58:56.960 --> 01:59:00.480
<v Speaker 2>And that is, in fact, regardless of the consequences.</v>

01:59:00.480 --> 01:59:04.800
<v Speaker 2>Yes, we may apply wisdom to these things, but we do not</v>

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<v Speaker 2>get to deny the truth.</v>

01:59:07.360 --> 01:59:11.760
<v Speaker 2>Because denying God's truth is denying Christ before men.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>We as Christians are going to spend eternity with Adam and with</v>

01:59:19.840 --> 01:59:24.560
<v Speaker 3>Noah and with Abraham and with Moses and with Elijah and with</v>

01:59:24.560 --> 01:59:28.960
<v Speaker 3>Jesus. We're going to spend eternity with them because they were Christian.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>They are Christian.</v>

01:59:30.240 --> 01:59:31.600
<v Speaker 3>We are Christian.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>The essence of the Christian faith is belief in the gospel, belief</v>

01:59:35.920 --> 01:59:38.080
<v Speaker 3>and the promise of the Messiah.</v>

01:59:38.080 --> 01:59:40.400
<v Speaker 3>Those who lived before the Messiah believed in the promise</v>

01:59:41.280 --> 01:59:43.360
<v Speaker 3>as it was yet to be fulfilled.</v>

01:59:43.360 --> 01:59:46.320
<v Speaker 3>Those who lived in Christ's day believed in the promise of the</v>

01:59:46.320 --> 01:59:50.800
<v Speaker 3>Messiah as they witnessed its fulfillment, and we who lived two thousand</v>

01:59:50.800 --> 01:59:52.800
<v Speaker 3>years after the fulfillment of the Messiah's promise</v>

01:59:53.680 --> 01:59:56.000
<v Speaker 3>believe it in retrospect.</v>

01:59:56.000 --> 01:59:59.360
<v Speaker 3>We believe that which has been fulfilled and transmitted to us through</v>

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<v Speaker 3>time, and in eternity, we will all be united as Christians because</v>

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<v Speaker 3>every single person in heaven, every single person who will be in</v>

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<v Speaker 3>the new earth is a Christian in essence.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>The essence of the Christian faith is belief in the Messiah who</v>

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<v Speaker 3>has delivered the eternal life to us.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>Every man in fa in heaven believed that and received it.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>That is how the Christian faith works.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Amen.</v>