WEBVTT 00:00:37.040 --> 00:00:39.520 Welcome to the Stone Choir Podcast. 00:00:39.520 --> 00:00:40.720 I am Corey J. 00:00:40.720 --> 00:00:41.680 Mahler. 00:00:41.680 --> 00:00:44.320 And I'm still woe. 00:00:44.320 --> 00:00:49.040 On today's Stone Choir, we are continuing our series on the Septuagint. 00:00:49.040 --> 00:00:52.560 I apologize to everyone who's been listening faithfully that we dropped out 00:00:52.560 --> 00:00:55.840 for a month after saying that the next episode this episode would 00:00:55.840 --> 00:00:56.640 be next week. 00:00:56.640 --> 00:00:58.480 That was about four weeks ago. 00:00:58.480 --> 00:01:02.640 We poured so much into getting those two history episodes done that 00:01:02.640 --> 00:01:03.760 I naively assumed that 00:01:04.720 --> 00:01:07.280 the collection of texts that we had ready to go for the 00:01:07.280 --> 00:01:09.920 Old Testament and the New Testament would be a cinch. 00:01:09.920 --> 00:01:12.960 And we got one week and then two weeks into preparing for 00:01:12.960 --> 00:01:15.280 that and it just kind of became overwhelming. 00:01:15.280 --> 00:01:18.400 And so the second week of preparation, we realized we're gonna have 00:01:18.400 --> 00:01:21.360 to split this episode into multiple episodes. 00:01:21.360 --> 00:01:25.120 So initially the plan was that this was going to be entirely 00:01:25.120 --> 00:01:29.520 the Old Testament looking at places where the rabbinic text differs from 00:01:29.520 --> 00:01:31.520 the Septuagint. 00:01:31.520 --> 00:01:34.400 What we realized was that there were so many of those that 00:01:34.400 --> 00:01:36.720 the only way to deal with it was to break that up. 00:01:36.720 --> 00:01:40.080 So I was listening to an episode from last July where I 00:01:40.080 --> 00:01:42.640 said that two horrible lies. 00:01:42.640 --> 00:01:46.080 One, I said that we would be doing the Septuagint series very 00:01:46.080 --> 00:01:47.760 soon, nearly a year ago. 00:01:47.760 --> 00:01:50.320 And two, I said it was gonna be in two parts, which 00:01:50.400 --> 00:01:52.880 in a sense is true because the two parts are the history 00:01:53.040 --> 00:01:54.640 and then the Bible itself. 00:01:54.640 --> 00:01:58.000 We have now completed the portion about the history. 00:01:58.000 --> 00:02:00.960 So episodes one and two are in the can, we're not gonna 00:02:00.960 --> 00:02:02.160 touch history again. 00:02:02.160 --> 00:02:05.120 And we deliberately didn't talk much about scripture at all. 00:02:05.120 --> 00:02:08.320 We didn't much at all because we're segregating that for what we 00:02:08.320 --> 00:02:10.800 thought would be the final two episodes. 00:02:10.800 --> 00:02:13.680 The new plan, and I think we're gonna stick with this, so 00:02:13.680 --> 00:02:15.840 you can hold me to it, make fun of me terribly if 00:02:15.840 --> 00:02:17.520 I fail if we fail. 00:02:17.520 --> 00:02:19.680 This is gonna be a nine-part series. 00:02:19.680 --> 00:02:22.320 It's going to be humorously seven plus two. 00:02:22.320 --> 00:02:26.000 So we saw the intro that we finished episode ninety nine on 00:02:26.000 --> 00:02:28.800 the context window, and one of the things I said in there 00:02:28.880 --> 00:02:32.080 just as a refresher, there's so much here you can't possibly keep 00:02:32.080 --> 00:02:33.120 it all in your head. 00:02:33.120 --> 00:02:35.600 Now the reason that a year ago I was optimistic we could 00:02:35.600 --> 00:02:38.480 do it in two episodes is I can't keep most of it 00:02:38.480 --> 00:02:41.760 in my head, but I really had no idea how difficult it's 00:02:41.760 --> 00:02:44.880 gonna be to spit it all out to make a coherent case. 00:02:44.880 --> 00:02:48.080 So that was a very naively optimistic thing for me to say. 00:02:48.320 --> 00:02:50.880 There's a lot to cover, and it's important to do it well. 00:02:50.880 --> 00:02:54.320 So the two parts are history and scripture, that's still true. 00:02:54.320 --> 00:02:58.800 I initially thought that this would be, you know, two history episodes, 00:02:58.800 --> 00:03:03.440 maybe one turned into two history episodes, and then three episodes of 00:03:03.680 --> 00:03:05.280 Old and New Testament. 00:03:05.280 --> 00:03:09.280 It turns out we're going to be doing seven content episodes plus 00:03:09.280 --> 00:03:12.160 the bonus episode at the end we're gonna talk about next steps 00:03:12.080 --> 00:03:15.520 steps, how do we get a Bible back to what Jesus and 00:03:15.520 --> 00:03:17.200 the Apostles and the Early Church used? 00:03:17.200 --> 00:03:20.480 We've been calling on bonus content because that's entirely our opinion. 00:03:20.480 --> 00:03:24.560 But right now we're on episode three of the seven content episodes. 00:03:24.560 --> 00:03:27.600 So the first two are history, the next three beginning with this 00:03:27.600 --> 00:03:30.000 one are going to be entirely about the Old Testament. 00:03:30.000 --> 00:03:33.920 The way that we're dividing this content up is this episode is 00:03:33.920 --> 00:03:36.000 going to be entirely about Christology. 00:03:36.000 --> 00:03:40.400 We're going to deal with the Christological passages in the Old Testament, 00:03:40.400 --> 00:03:43.360 some that are in the Masoretic they're not in the Septuagint, some 00:03:43.360 --> 00:03:46.480 that are in the Septuagint, they're not in the Masoretic, and some 00:03:46.480 --> 00:03:49.760 that are quoted from the New Testament that are present and they're 00:03:49.760 --> 00:03:53.360 actually richer in the Septuagint, and we just kind of leave them 00:03:53.440 --> 00:03:57.120 out of when we're discussing things or and we're gonna get into 00:03:57.120 --> 00:04:00.640 some of these examples where every Bible you have in your house 00:04:00.640 --> 00:04:03.600 is already based on the rabbinic text. 00:04:03.600 --> 00:04:06.640 But what we're going to demonstrate in small part here today is 00:04:07.120 --> 00:04:10.880 that there are a ton of places where your Bible that's supposed 00:04:10.880 --> 00:04:14.000 to be based on the old Hebrew that was passed on as 00:04:14.000 --> 00:04:16.720 oral tradition by the rabbis, there are a whole bunch of places 00:04:16.720 --> 00:04:20.560 where it just throws out the Hebrew entirely and uses the Greek 00:04:20.560 --> 00:04:24.800 instead. So even in this episode that's the beginning of the three 00:04:24.960 --> 00:04:28.000 talking just about the Old Testament, we're gonna start to pull in 00:04:28.000 --> 00:04:31.760 some of the examples of the New Testament, quoting the Old Testament, 00:04:31.760 --> 00:04:34.560 because what we find is that in your Bible, I ran into 00:04:34.560 --> 00:04:38.400 this left and right just last couple days of preparation, it's really 00:04:38.400 --> 00:04:42.560 difficult to unravel some of this stuff because your Bible, even though 00:04:42.560 --> 00:04:45.280 it claims to be based on the rabbinic text, doesn't There are 00:04:45.360 --> 00:04:47.680 a whole bunch of places where it's not even going to footnote 00:04:47.760 --> 00:04:51.200 and it's just going to render things according to the Septuagint, totally 00:04:51.200 --> 00:04:53.920 ignoring the rabbinic text entirely. 00:04:53.920 --> 00:04:57.840 So we're going to give some examples where we're going to point 00:04:57.840 --> 00:05:03.440 to the rabbinic text says one thing, the Septuagint says something else. 00:05:03.440 --> 00:05:07.120 Your Bible is probably in many cases, depending on which translation, going 00:05:07.120 --> 00:05:10.480 to agree with the Septuagint all over the place, far more examples 00:05:10.480 --> 00:05:11.760 than I thought were present. 00:05:11.760 --> 00:05:15.520 And it's good because these are Christological passages that should have been 00:05:15.520 --> 00:05:18.240 preserved should not have been tampered with by the rabbis. 00:05:18.240 --> 00:05:22.000 For better or worse, the translation committees have just been quietly cleaning 00:05:22.000 --> 00:05:25.360 this stuff up and so And so we have kind of this 00:05:25.360 --> 00:05:31.680 hermeneutic disaster where we have all these people picky choosy, whichever verses 00:05:31.680 --> 00:05:34.880 they prefer are the ones that they're putting in the Bibles. 00:05:34.880 --> 00:05:36.000 We all been reading. 00:05:36.000 --> 00:05:36.720 Me too. 00:05:36.720 --> 00:05:37.520 I didn't know. 00:05:37.920 --> 00:05:40.800 Again, even if you look at the footnotes, most of the footnotes 00:05:40.800 --> 00:05:43.840 aren't always going to be exhaustive about where they choose to ignore 00:05:43.840 --> 00:05:46.160 the rabbis and copy the Septuagint. 00:05:46.160 --> 00:05:49.280 So that's good news in case of us making the argument that 00:05:49.280 --> 00:05:51.920 this is in fact the Bible of Jesus and the Apostles, not 00:05:52.000 --> 00:05:53.120 only the early church. 00:05:53.120 --> 00:05:55.600 It turns out in quite a few cases, particularly with some of 00:05:55.600 --> 00:06:00.800 these Christological passages, when the New Testament quotes a Septuagint, the guys 00:06:00.800 --> 00:06:03.840 who are translating your Bible, just go ahead and backport the Greek 00:06:03.840 --> 00:06:06.960 back into the Old Testament without any regard to what the rabbinic 00:06:06.960 --> 00:06:07.920 text says. 00:06:07.920 --> 00:06:10.560 So we're gonna talk a little bit about what it means for 00:06:10.560 --> 00:06:12.400 us to be dealing with that. 00:06:12.400 --> 00:06:15.920 But just up front, I want to warn you, if you want 00:06:15.920 --> 00:06:18.320 to dig into some of the verses that we're going to give 00:06:18.320 --> 00:06:21.360 examples of, you're really going to have to do your due diligence. 00:06:21.360 --> 00:06:23.840 You're going to have to pull up for most of this. 00:06:23.840 --> 00:06:27.120 I've been using Bible Hub because it lets you see it like 00:06:27.600 --> 00:06:29.920 30 plus translation in English. 00:06:29.920 --> 00:06:34.880 You can also see interlinear for the rabbinic text. 00:06:34.880 --> 00:06:38.480 So you can see what they're claiming to be basing it on. 00:06:38.480 --> 00:06:41.280 Unfortunately, even that is sometimes tampered with. 00:06:41.280 --> 00:06:45.520 So there will be cases where the actual underlying rabbinic text will 00:06:45.520 --> 00:06:48.800 say one thing, and you'll look at even places like Bible Gateway. 00:06:48.800 --> 00:06:51.200 There are some examples, not going to highlight them today, but I've 00:06:51.200 --> 00:06:54.720 found examples where they will flat out lie and change how they 00:06:54.720 --> 00:06:58.800 define a word so that it matches the New Testament. 00:06:59.040 --> 00:07:01.760 So if you want to, you know, fact check us or whatever, 00:07:01.760 --> 00:07:03.840 you're gonna have to do a ton of work, just like we've 00:07:03.840 --> 00:07:04.560 done a ton of work. 00:07:04.560 --> 00:07:06.800 And that's not a setup, say just believe whatever we say. 00:07:06.800 --> 00:07:10.560 It's just this is such a mess because of the inconsistency. 00:07:10.560 --> 00:07:13.600 And the inconsistency has been introduced by the fact that we have 00:07:13.600 --> 00:07:18.320 this rabbinic text that Jerome poisoned the church with around four hundred, 00:07:18.320 --> 00:07:20.640 and then the Reformation ratified it. 00:07:20.640 --> 00:07:22.960 That's why we did the history episodes first. 00:07:22.960 --> 00:07:27.440 When we get into looking at our own Bibles, we don't have 00:07:27.440 --> 00:07:32.000 consistency. And so on one hand, that's frustrating just in terms of 00:07:32.000 --> 00:07:34.560 trying to unwind, okay, what's going on. 00:07:34.560 --> 00:07:37.360 On the other hand, I and the reason I'm highlighting this in 00:07:37.360 --> 00:07:41.440 the introduction is I want for listeners to take some comfort in 00:07:41.440 --> 00:07:44.160 the fact that things were always a little bit messy. 00:07:44.400 --> 00:07:48.320 Because what we are doing with this series is introducing more mess. 00:07:48.320 --> 00:07:51.840 We're saying, you know what, it's even more complicated than you thought. 00:07:51.840 --> 00:07:56.080 There's this other textual basis that was the textual basis for Jesus 00:07:56.080 --> 00:07:58.320 and the apostles in the early church, and then we forgot to 00:07:58.320 --> 00:07:59.600 use it for a while. 00:07:59.600 --> 00:08:03.040 Yeah, by a while, I mean, you know, fifteen hundred years. 00:08:03.040 --> 00:08:07.440 It's actually both messier and not as bad as it frankly I 00:08:07.440 --> 00:08:12.080 first thought because the translation committees have been playing fast and loose. 00:08:12.320 --> 00:08:15.760 And so there are cases where they're still using the septuagin while 00:08:15.760 --> 00:08:17.280 pretending they're not. 00:08:17.280 --> 00:08:20.160 So I don't want anyone, as we said in the first episode 00:08:20.160 --> 00:08:22.400 of the series, episode 100. 00:08:22.400 --> 00:08:25.360 We do not want anyone to feel unsettled by this. 00:08:25.360 --> 00:08:28.320 This is a source of a bunch of new work that the 00:08:28.320 --> 00:08:29.360 church is going to have to do. 00:08:29.360 --> 00:08:33.840 There's centuries of scholarship that has yet to be done because we 00:08:33.840 --> 00:08:36.720 haven't been looking at scripture the way we should have been for 00:08:36.720 --> 00:08:38.000 a long time. 00:08:38.000 --> 00:08:41.840 On the other hand, we have more of what God intended for 00:08:41.840 --> 00:08:43.120 us from the very beginning. 00:08:43.120 --> 00:08:45.520 It's a source for joy and celebration. 00:08:45.520 --> 00:08:50.000 And while this is not an argument for the Septuagint itself, I 00:08:50.000 --> 00:08:53.040 will tell you that, you know, it's now been eighteen months that 00:08:53.040 --> 00:08:55.840 I've been talking, Corey and I, uh principally me, I think. 00:08:55.840 --> 00:08:58.800 I've been doing research and just live tweeting is I've been going 00:08:58.800 --> 00:09:00.080 for eighteen months. 00:09:00.080 --> 00:09:03.520 A lot of you who follow me on X got a Septuagint 00:09:03.680 --> 00:09:05.600 or started reading it online. 00:09:05.600 --> 00:09:09.600 And every guy who has done that and begun reading it consistently 00:09:09.840 --> 00:09:11.200 has said the same thing. 00:09:11.200 --> 00:09:13.360 They have said to me, and it's what I agree with, but 00:09:13.360 --> 00:09:16.160 I I never said this publicly before these guys, other guys were 00:09:16.160 --> 00:09:21.200 saying it, that The Septuagint in English reads like the New Testament. 00:09:21.200 --> 00:09:23.280 It's the same voice. 00:09:23.280 --> 00:09:26.880 And that is a profound statement for so many random guys to 00:09:26.880 --> 00:09:30.400 have arrived at the same conclusion that I also have arrived at 00:09:30.560 --> 00:09:32.480 and Courtney has arrived at. 00:09:32.480 --> 00:09:34.720 It sounds like the New Testament. 00:09:34.720 --> 00:09:35.920 It's the same voice. 00:09:35.920 --> 00:09:37.760 You know, Corey and I have different voices. 00:09:37.760 --> 00:09:40.480 Even in text, I speak one way, he speaks another way. 00:09:40.480 --> 00:09:41.680 It's how everyone is. 00:09:41.680 --> 00:09:44.240 Different men have different modes of speech. 00:09:44.240 --> 00:09:45.760 That's perfectly normal. 00:09:45.760 --> 00:09:49.520 The New Testament and the Old Testament, if you're reading them all 00:09:49.520 --> 00:09:51.680 in Greek, they have one voice. 00:09:51.680 --> 00:09:55.280 If you're reading the rabbinic text and then you're reading the church 00:09:55.280 --> 00:09:58.880 text of the Old Testament, they read differently. 00:09:58.880 --> 00:10:02.560 But the church text, the Greek of the Old Testament, reads exactly 00:10:02.560 --> 00:10:04.080 like the Greek of the New Testament. 00:10:04.080 --> 00:10:06.480 It's the same voice because it's the same author. 00:10:06.480 --> 00:10:08.640 It's not something to be unsettled about, it's something to be happy 00:10:09.360 --> 00:10:12.880 about. But the church has a lot of work to sort out 00:10:13.040 --> 00:10:15.600 okay, we've been relying on one thing and now we're looking at 00:10:15.600 --> 00:10:18.480 another. We're going to give a number of examples today and over 00:10:18.480 --> 00:10:20.960 the next five episodes where that is the case. 00:10:21.360 --> 00:10:25.600 the structure of the Old Testament episodes, beginning with this one, specifically 00:10:25.600 --> 00:10:30.080 Christology today, the next episode, which will not be next week. 00:10:30.080 --> 00:10:32.080 I'm finally having hernia surgery. 00:10:32.080 --> 00:10:34.800 I've been living with a hernia for four years, and it's finally 00:10:34.800 --> 00:10:38.000 gotten pretty bad, so I haven't talked about it, but it's annoying. 00:10:38.000 --> 00:10:42.480 It's particularly annoying because it makes it kinda uncomfortable to walk around, 00:10:42.480 --> 00:10:45.120 which is a huge part of my process for preparing. 00:10:45.120 --> 00:10:48.480 If I can't walk around comfortably and just find my words, it 00:10:48.480 --> 00:10:50.320 makes it a lot harder to do these episodes. 00:10:50.320 --> 00:10:52.880 So no episode next week is I gotta have surgery get that 00:10:52.880 --> 00:10:55.280 fixed. It's gonna be quick and easy, so I'm not worried about 00:10:55.280 --> 00:10:58.480 it. Prayers appreciated, but I'm not concerned. 00:10:58.480 --> 00:11:00.800 But I'm not gonna be able to do an episode next week. 00:11:00.800 --> 00:11:03.600 So hopefully I'll be able to begin preparing that week and the 00:11:03.600 --> 00:11:08.080 following week the middle episode of the middle portion of the seven 00:11:08.080 --> 00:11:11.520 episodes and the middle portion of the nine episodes, the Septuagint. 00:11:11.840 --> 00:11:15.040 Look at the lovely chiastic structure we've discovered here. 00:11:15.040 --> 00:11:19.760 The episode number five is going to be or no episode number 00:11:19.760 --> 00:11:22.480 four, because we're on we're on three now. 00:11:22.800 --> 00:11:24.400 This is interminable. 00:11:24.400 --> 00:11:26.800 The next episode, whatever the number is, is going to be 00:11:27.760 --> 00:11:31.120 on the wisdom literature, uh, psalms, proverbs, and a little bit of 00:11:31.120 --> 00:11:32.000 other stuff. 00:11:32.000 --> 00:11:33.600 Because there are a ton of changes there. 00:11:33.600 --> 00:11:35.680 You have never read Proverbs before. 00:11:35.680 --> 00:11:38.160 As Cory Vy have been saying, we've been talking to each other 00:11:38.160 --> 00:11:41.280 in a little bit in public, we could quite literally do a 00:11:41.280 --> 00:11:43.440 thousand episodes just covering the changes. 00:11:43.440 --> 00:11:46.160 We would be long dead before we began to scratch the surface 00:11:46.160 --> 00:11:46.720 on this. 00:11:46.720 --> 00:11:51.200 So even just doing proverbs and summer psalms isn't gonna scratch the 00:11:51.200 --> 00:11:53.920 surface on the changes there, but we're gonna sequester that in one 00:11:53.920 --> 00:11:55.920 episode to give some good examples. 00:11:55.920 --> 00:11:58.960 And then the third episode, and we're gonna just cut the old 00:11:58.960 --> 00:12:02.960 testament portion, is going to be a grab bag of some interesting 00:12:02.960 --> 00:12:06.480 changes, including specifically some of the timeline stuff. 00:12:06.480 --> 00:12:11.600 Because we have the timeline of the genealogies of Abraham and his 00:12:11.600 --> 00:12:14.480 people. We have the Job chronology. 00:12:14.480 --> 00:12:17.440 And if you've been following Man X, you know, for example, that 00:12:17.440 --> 00:12:19.440 Job was not just floating in space. 00:12:19.440 --> 00:12:23.120 If you use the text of the Septuagint and you use the 00:12:23.120 --> 00:12:26.560 chronology of the Septuagint, which is the Bible of Jesus and Apostles 00:12:26.640 --> 00:12:29.520 and the early church, not only is Job not just floating in 00:12:29.520 --> 00:12:33.920 history with no apparent connection, Job appears multiple times in the Bible. 00:12:33.920 --> 00:12:38.800 Job is, according to the chronology, almost certainly the king of Eum 00:12:39.120 --> 00:12:41.440 who refused Moses entry. 00:12:41.440 --> 00:12:44.560 During their wanderings, when Moses went to the king of Edom and 00:12:44.560 --> 00:12:47.840 said, Please just let us through, it was Job who was the 00:12:47.840 --> 00:12:50.000 king of Edom who refused that. 00:12:50.000 --> 00:12:53.200 And Job lived for a number of years after that, and God 00:12:53.200 --> 00:12:56.080 continued to bless him and call him the most righteous man on 00:12:56.080 --> 00:12:56.720 the planet. 00:12:56.720 --> 00:12:59.920 So we'll get into that chronology and some of the implications, but 00:12:59.920 --> 00:13:05.040 once you understand where some of these chronological perversions, what effect they 00:13:05.040 --> 00:13:08.400 have on the text, it starts to make sense why the rabbis 00:13:08.400 --> 00:13:10.640 would have deliberately tampered with them. 00:13:10.640 --> 00:13:15.280 So the third episode of the Old Testament portion of the Septuagint 00:13:15.280 --> 00:13:19.440 series will be about chronology and some other grab bag changes, including 00:13:19.440 --> 00:13:22.160 Aster, which is a completely different book. 00:13:22.160 --> 00:13:27.200 The last two episodes, so number seven and eight, are going to 00:13:27.200 --> 00:13:29.440 be entirely New Testament. 00:13:29.440 --> 00:13:31.520 And I don't know yet what the division will be, but there's 00:13:31.440 --> 00:13:33.040 just so much there I know it's going to be a couple 00:13:33.040 --> 00:13:33.680 of episodes. 00:13:33.680 --> 00:13:36.240 And then nine, the bonus episode would be how do we come 00:13:36.240 --> 00:13:40.480 up with a new English translation based on the Septuagint that doesn't 00:13:40.400 --> 00:13:41.440 have any of this mess? 00:13:41.440 --> 00:13:42.480 How do we make it easy? 00:13:42.480 --> 00:13:44.400 How do we make it approachable? 00:13:44.400 --> 00:13:47.600 How do we make sure that it is not tainted by any 00:13:47.600 --> 00:13:49.520 of these past mistakes. 00:13:49.520 --> 00:13:53.120 So that's the overall scheme of the arc of this thing. 00:13:53.120 --> 00:13:56.960 It's going to be seven plus two, and God willing, we'll finish 00:13:56.960 --> 00:13:58.640 in the next like three months. 00:13:58.640 --> 00:14:01.280 I really hope we can get it over with. 00:14:01.280 --> 00:14:06.720 The structure of this particular episode on the Christology of the Old 00:14:06.720 --> 00:14:10.880 Testament is going to be broken itself into a few different parts. 00:14:10.880 --> 00:14:14.080 We're going to begin with a number of cases that are somewhat 00:14:14.080 --> 00:14:16.160 famous. You've probably heard of them before. 00:14:16.160 --> 00:14:19.200 The most prominent cases where your Bible, which is based on the 00:14:19.200 --> 00:14:25.040 rabbinic text, flat out ignores it and uses the Septuagint, uses it 00:14:25.040 --> 00:14:30.080 quite literally because they're Christological prophecies that are perverted in the rabbinic 00:14:30.080 --> 00:14:33.920 text. And there are a few key examples of that where when 00:14:33.920 --> 00:14:36.960 those changes were deliberately introduced, and a couple of them are very 00:14:36.960 --> 00:14:43.120 obviously deliberately introduced, the church responded correctly in one sense by saying, 00:14:43.120 --> 00:14:46.320 No, you've deleted Jesus from this, absolutely not. 00:14:46.320 --> 00:14:50.000 We're going to preserve the Septuagint rendering because it's clearly faithful. 00:14:50.000 --> 00:14:56.320 Unfortunately, that choice of ignoring the rabbinic text and just picking another 00:14:56.320 --> 00:14:59.840 one for the sake of Christology is also a trap. 00:14:59.840 --> 00:15:02.000 You know, we spent a lot of time in the previous episode 00:15:02.000 --> 00:15:06.800 talking about how the literal versus allegorical hermeneutic that were introduced and 00:15:06.800 --> 00:15:12.000 then abandoned was also a trap where the bad reading by Christians 00:15:12.000 --> 00:15:16.960 was then replaced by a good reading by the Christ-killing rabbis. 00:15:16.960 --> 00:15:20.080 That setup is the same sort of thing we're seeing here. 00:15:20.080 --> 00:15:23.680 There were a couple places where the rabbis deliberately tampered with their 00:15:23.680 --> 00:15:27.920 own text, so that when it was translated into the current languages, 00:15:27.920 --> 00:15:31.280 Christians are like, no, the Septuagint very clearly shows that Jesus is 00:15:31.280 --> 00:15:33.120 in these passages. 00:15:33.120 --> 00:15:38.080 When they chose to ignore that rabbinic text, it set up the 00:15:38.080 --> 00:15:41.280 trap that's going to be the second portion of this episode. 00:15:41.280 --> 00:15:46.480 There are a number of passages where the rabbinic text has what 00:15:46.480 --> 00:15:50.240 has been long seen as Christological passages that are not present in 00:15:50.240 --> 00:15:51.920 the Septuagint. 00:15:51.920 --> 00:15:53.440 So this is the trap. 00:15:53.440 --> 00:15:55.760 If you have already bought into we're just going to ignore the 00:15:55.760 --> 00:15:59.600 rabbis when we find more Jesus in the Septuagint, what are you 00:15:59.600 --> 00:16:02.640 then going to do when you find more Jesus in the rabbis 00:16:02.880 --> 00:16:05.200 than you find in the Septuagint? 00:16:05.200 --> 00:16:08.080 What do you do when the rabbinic text has more Jesus when 00:16:08.080 --> 00:16:09.440 it's more Christological? 00:16:09.440 --> 00:16:11.680 Does that mean you go running back to the rabbis? 00:16:11.680 --> 00:16:12.960 That's the trap. 00:16:12.960 --> 00:16:16.240 And that's what is going to be one of the fights about 00:16:16.320 --> 00:16:20.240 those who do not take the historical and the New Testament arguments 00:16:20.240 --> 00:16:22.480 for the Septuagint seriously. 00:16:22.480 --> 00:16:25.760 Now, simple, reasonable Christians are not going to care, they're going to 00:16:25.760 --> 00:16:28.880 understand I don't listen to rabbis, but everybody else is going to 00:16:28.880 --> 00:16:32.480 feel very concerned, so we're going to address those passages head on. 00:16:32.480 --> 00:16:36.560 Some of your very favorite Christological passages in the Old Testament, they're 00:16:36.560 --> 00:16:39.120 not quite there, in some cases they're not there at all in 00:16:39.120 --> 00:16:40.560 the Septuagint. 00:16:40.560 --> 00:16:43.280 The reason for highlighting this is very important. 00:16:43.280 --> 00:16:47.040 What is your hermeneutic for determining what is scripture? 00:16:47.040 --> 00:16:50.000 Is it whichever Bible has the most Jesus in it? 00:16:50.000 --> 00:16:53.600 Because if that is your soul determinant, give me a text editor 00:16:53.600 --> 00:16:56.000 in a few hours, I can give you an old testament that's 00:16:55.920 --> 00:16:57.920 got fifty more Christological passages. 00:16:57.920 --> 00:17:00.160 I can go in and add things, change things a little bit, 00:17:00.160 --> 00:17:02.240 I can give you a Bible with more Jesus than you have 00:17:02.240 --> 00:17:03.760 ever seen in your entire life. 00:17:03.760 --> 00:17:04.960 How would you receive that? 00:17:05.040 --> 00:17:07.280 If I told you, look, I've got more Jesus in this new 00:17:07.280 --> 00:17:08.960 Bible I've written for you. 00:17:08.960 --> 00:17:11.040 Would you receive it and say, oh, this is wonderful. 00:17:11.040 --> 00:17:12.320 Look how much Jesus there is. 00:17:12.320 --> 00:17:14.000 It's got so much Christology. 00:17:14.000 --> 00:17:15.520 This is my new Bible. 00:17:15.520 --> 00:17:18.080 Or would you punch me in the throat and set it on 00:17:18.080 --> 00:17:21.120 fire? If you're a Christian, it would be the second. 00:17:21.120 --> 00:17:22.880 Because these are God's things. 00:17:22.880 --> 00:17:24.720 We don't tamper with them. 00:17:24.720 --> 00:17:27.600 So part of the reason that we're going to highlight Christology in 00:17:27.600 --> 00:17:30.560 the beginning of this portion of the series is that this is 00:17:30.720 --> 00:17:31.600 a big deal. 00:17:31.600 --> 00:17:35.120 If we say whichever Bible has more Jesus in it is the 00:17:35.120 --> 00:17:37.680 one we're going to pick, I can tell you right now that 00:17:37.680 --> 00:17:42.320 the rabbinic text is going to win by that superficial metric. 00:17:42.320 --> 00:17:45.280 But that's going to be at odds with our closing argument with 00:17:45.280 --> 00:17:46.720 the New Testament. 00:17:46.720 --> 00:17:50.400 The reason we've saved the New Testament for last is very simple. 00:17:50.400 --> 00:17:57.040 Jesus and the apostles overwhelmingly verify that the Septuagint is their scripture. 00:17:57.360 --> 00:18:00.080 So you need nothing else other than the New Testament to know 00:18:00.080 --> 00:18:01.280 that this is true. 00:18:01.360 --> 00:18:02.960 I've said that's what we're calling it. 00:18:02.960 --> 00:18:04.240 That's our closing argument. 00:18:04.240 --> 00:18:06.480 We could have done just a single episode where we just went 00:18:06.480 --> 00:18:10.080 through the New Testament, read all the places where it exclusively quotes 00:18:10.080 --> 00:18:11.280 the Septuagint. 00:18:11.280 --> 00:18:14.000 And the way we can tell is exclusive is that the rabbinic 00:18:14.000 --> 00:18:16.000 text doesn't say what's in the New Testament. 00:18:16.000 --> 00:18:18.080 You find these passages left and right. 00:18:18.080 --> 00:18:21.360 That's why I mentioned earlier the English translations are really sloppy. 00:18:21.600 --> 00:18:24.960 They have gone back and tampered with the translations of the Old 00:18:24.960 --> 00:18:26.640 Testament to harmonize them. 00:18:26.640 --> 00:18:28.560 Now on one hand that was the right thing to do. 00:18:28.560 --> 00:18:31.920 When I say tampered, I mean they're tampering with the underlying text, 00:18:31.920 --> 00:18:33.760 but I think it's the right approach. 00:18:33.760 --> 00:18:37.520 The problem is that there's so many places where the rabbinic text 00:18:37.520 --> 00:18:42.880 doesn't match that your current English Bible is just a hodgepodge. 00:18:42.880 --> 00:18:46.400 Sometimes it's based on the rabbis, sometimes it's based on the Septuagint. 00:18:46.560 --> 00:18:49.280 Being the Septuagint is going to be the basis for the New 00:18:49.440 --> 00:18:51.600 Testament. It's messy. 00:18:51.600 --> 00:18:54.880 And so we don't need to be concerned about, we do need 00:18:54.880 --> 00:18:55.760 to be careful. 00:18:55.760 --> 00:18:58.000 As I said in the very beginning of the first episode of 00:18:58.000 --> 00:19:02.320 the series, we do not want anyone to be undermined in their 00:19:02.320 --> 00:19:04.160 confidence about scripture. 00:19:04.160 --> 00:19:09.200 God has preserved faith in spite of all this foolishness, in spite 00:19:09.200 --> 00:19:10.880 of the things that have been done. 00:19:10.880 --> 00:19:13.600 We're all Christians today without having read the Septuagint. 00:19:13.600 --> 00:19:16.160 That is the power of God's word. 00:19:16.160 --> 00:19:18.960 That is the fact that faith is a gift. 00:19:18.960 --> 00:19:22.800 We're not doing it, we're not intellectually assenting, we're not figuring out 00:19:22.800 --> 00:19:25.360 some puzzle and getting the right answer on a quiz, and then 00:19:25.360 --> 00:19:27.040 we're fine. 00:19:27.040 --> 00:19:29.840 And so as we go through these examples that are Christological in 00:19:29.840 --> 00:19:34.880 nature, keep in mind, if there's less Christology apparently in some of 00:19:34.880 --> 00:19:39.120 the Septuagint verses, is that then a reason to disregard Jesus and 00:19:39.120 --> 00:19:42.800 the apostles when they quote it almost exclusively? 00:19:42.800 --> 00:19:45.440 I want to read now the word at the very end of 00:19:45.440 --> 00:19:46.800 Revelation twenty two. 00:19:46.800 --> 00:19:49.360 This is virtually the end of the Bible, and this is not 00:19:49.360 --> 00:19:53.440 simply talking about the book of Revelation, it's talking about the entire 00:19:53.440 --> 00:19:56.960 scripture, all Old and Old New Testament combined. 00:19:56.960 --> 00:20:00.480 There is only one scripture breathed out by God, and God says 00:20:00.480 --> 00:20:04.080 this I warn everyone who hears the words of the prophecy of 00:20:04.080 --> 00:20:04.720 this book. 00:20:04.720 --> 00:20:07.840 If anyone adds to them, God will add to him the plagues 00:20:07.840 --> 00:20:10.960 described in this book, and if anyone takes away from the words 00:20:10.960 --> 00:20:14.240 of the book of this prophecy, God will take away his share 00:20:14.400 --> 00:20:17.200 in the tree of life and in the holy city which are 00:20:17.200 --> 00:20:18.000 described in this book. 00:20:19.040 --> 00:20:20.320 That's part of Revelation. 00:20:20.320 --> 00:20:21.680 It's describing Revelation. 00:20:21.680 --> 00:20:23.920 It also implies that entire Bible. 00:20:23.920 --> 00:20:28.480 We don't get to add or remove just based upon our whims. 00:20:28.480 --> 00:20:33.200 And so as we tackle the Christological prophecies, those that are present, 00:20:33.200 --> 00:20:36.960 those that are absent, those that are weakened in some cases, simply 00:20:36.960 --> 00:20:38.400 keep that in mind. 00:20:38.400 --> 00:20:42.160 If you are confronted with a text which doesn't read the way 00:20:42.160 --> 00:20:46.080 you're used to, but Jesus and the apostles verify that it is 00:20:46.080 --> 00:20:49.600 scripture. Do you reject it because you don't like it? 00:20:49.600 --> 00:20:52.560 Are you going to play picky choosy, or are you going to 00:20:52.560 --> 00:20:55.840 receive whatever God has seen fit to give you? 00:20:56.160 --> 00:21:02.800 Our exhortation is precisely that God's word is sufficient, whatever it is, 00:21:02.800 --> 00:21:06.720 whether it is the rabbinic text or it is the Septuagint, it 00:21:06.720 --> 00:21:07.680 is sufficient. 00:21:07.680 --> 00:21:10.000 The question then becomes which one is it? 00:21:10.240 --> 00:21:12.960 Whichever one it is, that is the one that is sufficient. 00:21:12.960 --> 00:21:15.600 So as we look at which ones breathed out by God in 00:21:15.600 --> 00:21:18.880 our closing argument from the New Testament, there can be only one 00:21:18.880 --> 00:21:25.520 conclusion. But again, just to brutally frame this episode, we cannot make 00:21:25.520 --> 00:21:30.320 Christology the basis for validating our old testament source. 00:21:30.320 --> 00:21:31.840 That's simply invalid. 00:21:31.840 --> 00:21:33.920 There's nowhere in scripture that says that. 00:21:33.920 --> 00:21:37.360 Now the Now the last portion, the third portion of this episode, 00:21:37.360 --> 00:21:40.720 is going to be spoiling in part some of the New Testament 00:21:40.720 --> 00:21:43.840 episodes. We're going to go through a number of places where precisely 00:21:43.840 --> 00:21:48.560 this has happened, where the New Testament quotes Christological passages, makes very 00:21:48.560 --> 00:21:53.040 explicit and explains in detail in the New Testament, this Old Testament 00:21:53.040 --> 00:21:55.520 prophecy is about the Christ. 00:21:55.520 --> 00:21:58.640 Every time they do that, they quote the Septuagint. 00:21:58.640 --> 00:22:00.480 And so as I said, there are a lot of cases where 00:22:00.480 --> 00:22:04.480 your Bible is going to have backported that Septuagint rendering from the 00:22:04.480 --> 00:22:05.760 New Testament into the Old. 00:22:05.760 --> 00:22:07.600 So that when you read the Old Testament, you see the same 00:22:07.600 --> 00:22:09.360 words and you don't see the problem. 00:22:09.600 --> 00:22:12.640 In one sense, it's a good thing that the translators were sloppy. 00:22:12.640 --> 00:22:15.600 At least they were sloppy in a Christian fashion, but what have 00:22:15.600 --> 00:22:16.480 they done? 00:22:16.480 --> 00:22:21.840 They have sort of disregarded the underlying text in very blatant ways. 00:22:21.840 --> 00:22:25.440 And so we have to be really careful when we're looking at 00:22:25.440 --> 00:22:28.320 the text to even know what it is we're looking at. 00:22:28.320 --> 00:22:30.080 So we're going to give specific examples. 00:22:30.080 --> 00:22:32.720 These is a very long intro, but I just want to lay 00:22:32.720 --> 00:22:36.800 out that as I said in the episode on the context window, 00:22:36.800 --> 00:22:40.640 there's so much going on here that you have to incorporate all 00:22:40.640 --> 00:22:42.960 of it before you can render a final decision. 00:22:42.960 --> 00:22:44.720 And maybe you as an individual can't. 00:22:44.720 --> 00:22:46.640 There's so much here, maybe you just can't fit it all in 00:22:46.640 --> 00:22:48.080 your head, and that's fine. 00:22:48.080 --> 00:22:50.720 But you should still hear that these are arguments that are going 00:22:50.720 --> 00:22:53.440 to be coming and going in both directions for at least a 00:22:53.440 --> 00:22:54.400 decade to come. 00:22:54.400 --> 00:22:56.400 This is going to split the church, this fight. 00:22:56.400 --> 00:22:59.120 So we're going to address that on some of the fights they're 00:22:59.120 --> 00:23:03.760 going to be picked by false so-called brethren within the church in 00:23:03.760 --> 00:23:06.000 order to try to defend the rabbinic text. 00:23:06.160 --> 00:23:08.800 Just keep in mind if all you want is a Bible with 00:23:08.800 --> 00:23:12.240 the most Jesus, you have set yourself up for false teachers and 00:23:12.240 --> 00:23:13.200 false prophets. 00:23:13.200 --> 00:23:16.640 Because anybody can come along with gold tablets and say, hey, I 00:23:16.640 --> 00:23:17.920 have another testament from Christ. 00:23:17.920 --> 00:23:18.720 It's got even more. 00:23:18.960 --> 00:23:20.160 That is the book of Mormon. 00:23:20.160 --> 00:23:22.160 It's got more Jesus in it than we have. 00:23:22.160 --> 00:23:22.960 It's lies. 00:23:22.960 --> 00:23:25.280 It's a back of lies, but it's got more Jesus. 00:23:25.280 --> 00:23:27.200 That's part of their sales pitch. 00:23:27.600 --> 00:23:29.360 Is that our hermeneutic? 00:23:29.360 --> 00:23:33.040 You'll turn into a Mormon or something worse if you want to 00:23:33.040 --> 00:23:37.200 base your decision about the Old Testament text on that. 00:23:37.200 --> 00:23:42.000 So as we go through these three portions, just keep in mind 00:23:42.000 --> 00:23:46.720 that when we make our concluding arguments from the New Testament, we 00:23:46.720 --> 00:23:50.560 will establish that Jesus and the apostles, the disciples who are quoted 00:23:50.560 --> 00:23:55.120 in the New Testament, virtually all they talk about, is a Septuagint, 00:23:55.120 --> 00:23:56.800 and that matters. 00:23:57.280 --> 00:23:57.520 So 00:23:57.440 --> 00:24:02.160 So, for this first section of the three sections of this particular 00:24:02.160 --> 00:24:06.960 episode, we're going to be going over two places in which your 00:24:07.120 --> 00:24:12.080 translation of the Old Testament, although it pretends to be based on 00:24:12.080 --> 00:24:17.040 the Rabbinic text, does not in point of fact use the Rabbinic 00:24:17.040 --> 00:24:23.840 text, because these are prophecies, very clear prophecies about Christ, beloved prophecies 00:24:23.840 --> 00:24:26.640 about Christ that really are not there 00:24:27.520 --> 00:24:32.800 in the underlying rabbinic text, which is supposedly the basis of most 00:24:32.960 --> 00:24:35.520 modern translations. 00:24:35.520 --> 00:24:38.080 The first one we'll be using, and I'm sure many of you 00:24:38.080 --> 00:24:42.000 already know this one, is Isaiah 7.14. 00:24:42.000 --> 00:24:45.760 I'll read it first in the English Standard Version and then read 00:24:45.760 --> 00:24:49.600 it in a translation of the Septuagint. 00:24:49.680 --> 00:24:53.520 Therefore the Lord Himself will give you a sign, behold the Virgin 00:24:53.520 --> 00:24:57.760 shall conceive and bear a son, and shall call his name Emmanuel. 00:24:57.760 --> 00:25:02.160 I'll read from the Brenton, translation of the Septuagint. 00:25:02.160 --> 00:25:05.760 Therefore the Lord Himself shall give you a sign Behold a virgin 00:25:05.760 --> 00:25:09.200 shall conceive in the womb, and shall bring forth a son, and 00:25:09.200 --> 00:25:12.320 thou shalt call his name Emmanuel. 00:25:12.320 --> 00:25:16.720 Now the problem here, of course, is that these sound identical, and 00:25:16.720 --> 00:25:21.040 the reason they sound identical is that, as mentioned in Wo's intro, 00:25:21.040 --> 00:25:27.120 the English standard version, in this case, is translating from the Greek. 00:25:27.520 --> 00:25:31.760 It's not actually translating from the Hebrew, because the word there for 00:25:31.760 --> 00:25:37.760 virgin in the Hebrew is Alma, which is marriageable girl or young 00:25:37.760 --> 00:25:40.400 woman. It's not actually virgin. 00:25:40.400 --> 00:25:44.320 Now the word that is there in the Septuagint is very clearly 00:25:44.320 --> 00:25:48.880 virgin, because it's Parthenos, which indeed does mean virgin or maiden. 00:25:48.880 --> 00:25:52.480 Same two words we have in English. 00:25:52.480 --> 00:25:58.160 This is one of the clearest cases in which our modern translations 00:25:58.160 --> 00:26:05.280 have decided to use what is clearly the Christological translation interpretation, ignoring 00:26:05.280 --> 00:26:08.960 the Hebrew text, ignoring the rabbinic text. 00:26:08.960 --> 00:26:13.280 They've done this with what one could say is a good intent, 00:26:13.280 --> 00:26:17.120 because obviously they are seeking to harmonize this with what we know 00:26:17.120 --> 00:26:20.720 as Christians, with what is said in the New Testament. 00:26:20.720 --> 00:26:24.320 However, this is an instance where they are not following, as Woe 00:26:24.400 --> 00:26:26.160 said in his intro, a proper hermeneutic. 00:26:26.160 --> 00:26:29.120 They're not relying on the actual underlying text. 00:26:29.120 --> 00:26:31.920 What they are claiming is the underlying text. 00:26:31.920 --> 00:26:34.160 If you use the Greek, you have no problem here. 00:26:34.160 --> 00:26:36.880 The Greek very clearly says virgin. 00:26:36.880 --> 00:26:38.160 The Hebrew does 00:26:38.160 --> 00:26:39.440 not. 00:26:39.680 --> 00:26:43.200 If you take a look on Bible Hub and search for Isaiah 00:26:43.280 --> 00:26:47.680 714 and then do a find for virgin, You will find that 00:26:47.680 --> 00:26:50.720 almost every English translation does this. 00:26:50.720 --> 00:26:57.040 They copy the Septuagint, they correctly preserve this prophecy because it's the 00:26:57.040 --> 00:26:58.480 Christian thing to do. 00:26:58.480 --> 00:27:02.320 If you happen to have an NRSV Bible or a Good News 00:27:02.320 --> 00:27:06.640 Translation or an NET Bible, then it does say young woman, which 00:27:06.640 --> 00:27:10.080 is exactly what is in the rabbinic text. 00:27:10.080 --> 00:27:15.680 Now, one of the false arguments made by Jews as oh well 00:27:15.840 --> 00:27:18.880 alma means yeah means virgin too. 00:27:18.880 --> 00:27:21.760 Well, there is a presumption that a young woman who has reached 00:27:21.760 --> 00:27:23.680 puberty is a virgin. 00:27:23.680 --> 00:27:24.400 That's presumptive. 00:27:24.720 --> 00:27:28.320 You would not assume that she has been fornicating. 00:27:28.320 --> 00:27:30.960 But that's not implicit. 00:27:30.960 --> 00:27:34.640 There are two different words in Hebrew for young woman and for 00:27:34.800 --> 00:27:39.440 virgin. And we know that Isaiah knows the word for virgin, which 00:27:39.440 --> 00:27:43.920 is Betula, because he uses it five other times, including here in 00:27:43.920 --> 00:27:48.480 Isaiah sixty two five, for as a young man marries a virgin, 00:27:48.480 --> 00:27:52.320 so shall your sons marry you, as a bridegroom rejoices over the 00:27:52.320 --> 00:27:55.440 bride, so shall your God rejoice over you. 00:27:55.440 --> 00:27:58.880 So five other times in Isaiah he uses the word virgin. 00:27:58.880 --> 00:28:02.480 He was not confused, and just forgot to use it for this 00:28:02.480 --> 00:28:05.760 important prophecy of the Christ. 00:28:05.760 --> 00:28:08.720 And one of the reasons that you know we can know with 00:28:08.720 --> 00:28:13.520 absolute certainty that this was tampered with is that Matthew 121 and 00:28:13.520 --> 00:28:16.000 following quotes this by name. 00:28:16.000 --> 00:28:17.280 It quotes it directly. 00:28:17.280 --> 00:28:20.720 Matthew says, Behold, the virgin shall conceive and bear a son, and 00:28:20.720 --> 00:28:22.480 they shall call his name Emmanuel. 00:28:22.480 --> 00:28:26.160 One of many cases where the Septuagint is quoted in the New 00:28:26.320 --> 00:28:30.400 Testament. So as we said, like the translation committees did the right 00:28:30.400 --> 00:28:34.400 thing, but they should have stopped using the rabbinic text entirely. 00:28:34.400 --> 00:28:35.680 That was their mistake. 00:28:35.680 --> 00:28:37.280 They solved the immediate problem. 00:28:37.280 --> 00:28:40.480 They didn't solve the much greater problem. 00:28:40.480 --> 00:28:45.440 And so it's an important example because you will find some Jews 00:28:45.440 --> 00:28:48.400 today coming like oh no, almost fine, young woman's fine means the 00:28:48.400 --> 00:28:49.280 same thing. 00:28:49.280 --> 00:28:53.040 It's completely subversive lies and you shouldn't be arguing with them at 00:28:53.040 --> 00:28:56.320 all. That's the simple chief point you need to understand. 00:28:56.320 --> 00:28:58.000 Don't listen to them. 00:28:58.000 --> 00:29:02.480 But thankfully, virtually every translation committee, going back to the King James, 00:29:02.480 --> 00:29:05.280 which they added translation committee too, that's nothing new. 00:29:05.280 --> 00:29:07.040 That's not a dirty word to say that. 00:29:07.040 --> 00:29:10.960 The next Septuagint translation of the Bible is gonna have a committee. 00:29:10.960 --> 00:29:13.360 You get a bunch of Christians together who know their stuff who 00:29:13.360 --> 00:29:16.160 are faithful, and you try to do the best you can with 00:29:16.160 --> 00:29:19.520 the source text as an entirely illegitimate thing. 00:29:19.520 --> 00:29:24.000 They all overwhelmingly chose to ignore the rabbinic text and say what 00:29:24.000 --> 00:29:27.920 the Septuagint says and what Matthew says. 00:29:27.920 --> 00:29:31.760 Interestingly, one last point, and we're not getting into this really at 00:29:31.760 --> 00:29:34.400 all because it's irrelevant for Christians, but 00:29:35.360 --> 00:29:40.000 the Dead Sea Scrolls, the great Isaiah scroll, also says Alma. 00:29:40.000 --> 00:29:41.280 It says young woman. 00:29:41.280 --> 00:29:44.880 Now that is dated a hundred years before Christ was born. 00:29:44.880 --> 00:29:51.360 So when we say that the Jews, the rabbis corrupted this text, 00:29:51.360 --> 00:29:53.760 it didn't happen after the virgin birth. 00:29:53.760 --> 00:29:55.760 It had already happened before. 00:29:55.760 --> 00:29:58.880 And so the great Isaiah scroll that, you know, a lot of 00:29:58.880 --> 00:30:01.680 people probably think the great Isaiah scroll, if you've heard of it, 00:30:01.680 --> 00:30:04.000 you probably think it was what was being used in the temple. 00:30:04.000 --> 00:30:06.560 You probably think it was what all Jesus and the apostles were 00:30:06.560 --> 00:30:09.120 learning from and speaking and preaching from. 00:30:09.120 --> 00:30:14.080 Well, it says young woman, and yet Matthew, who was very much 00:30:14.080 --> 00:30:16.960 a Jew, quotes the Septuagint. 00:30:16.960 --> 00:30:20.880 So as we talked about in the history episode, in both of 00:30:20.880 --> 00:30:24.560 them, we already have the case one hundred fifty two hundred years 00:30:24.560 --> 00:30:27.680 before the birth of Christ that the That the Hebrew was a 00:30:27.680 --> 00:30:30.800 lost language in terms of being spoken. 00:30:30.880 --> 00:30:34.480 It was still studied by the scholars, but it was not in 00:30:34.480 --> 00:30:35.680 teaching use. 00:30:35.680 --> 00:30:38.400 They had to have it translated into Aramaic and then into Greek 00:30:38.480 --> 00:30:40.160 so they could even understand it. 00:30:40.160 --> 00:30:43.280 So on one hand, it's not surprising that Matthew would have quoted 00:30:43.280 --> 00:30:48.800 the Septuagint against the rabbinic text of Isaiah 714. 00:30:48.800 --> 00:30:52.480 But just keep in mind, even the so-called great Isaiah scroll from 00:30:52.480 --> 00:30:55.280 over a hundred years before the birth of Christ already has already 00:30:55.280 --> 00:30:56.560 has this corruption. 00:30:56.560 --> 00:30:58.880 We're not going to deal with that further, but just keep that 00:30:58.880 --> 00:30:59.600 in mind. 00:30:59.600 --> 00:31:03.120 If someone wants to appeal to the Dead Sea Scrolls or whatever 00:31:03.120 --> 00:31:07.920 other archaeological find they have, they're ignoring Jesus and the Apostles in 00:31:07.920 --> 00:31:09.520 the New Testament. 00:31:10.560 --> 00:31:13.840 And to give you an idea of just how pervasive this 00:31:14.800 --> 00:31:18.800 surreptitious as it were usage of the Greek in places where the 00:31:18.800 --> 00:31:25.120 Rabbinic text disagrees with very clear Christian doctrine and what is clearly 00:31:25.120 --> 00:31:32.400 the text of scripture, even in supposedly literal translations of the Hebrew 00:31:32.720 --> 00:31:37.680 into English, you still have this because when running this comparison I 00:31:37.680 --> 00:31:41.600 was looking also at Young's literal translation which one would think would 00:31:41.600 --> 00:31:46.400 be a literal translation of the Hebrew, it still has this. 00:31:46.400 --> 00:31:50.880 It still translates Alma as virgin instead of as young woman. 00:31:50.880 --> 00:31:54.480 And this is similar because it does the same thing with the 00:31:54.480 --> 00:31:58.320 next example, which is Psalm twenty two, which again I will read 00:31:58.320 --> 00:32:01.600 from the ESV and then read from in this case I'll read 00:32:01.600 --> 00:32:05.200 the Lexum, another translation of the Septuagint. 00:32:05.200 --> 00:32:10.320 For dogs encompass me, a company of evildoers encircles me, they have 00:32:10.320 --> 00:32:12.640 pierced my hands and feet. 00:32:12.640 --> 00:32:14.560 Now the Septuagint. 00:32:14.560 --> 00:32:18.960 For many dogs encircled me, a gathering of those doing evil surrounded 00:32:18.960 --> 00:32:21.520 me, they pierced my hands and feet. 00:32:21.760 --> 00:32:24.320 And you can see in both of these they have pierced my 00:32:24.320 --> 00:32:25.040 hands and feet. 00:32:25.040 --> 00:32:29.520 And in fact, if you look at the Young's literal translation, it 00:32:29.520 --> 00:32:30.960 still says pierced. 00:32:30.960 --> 00:32:34.080 But if you go ahead and highlight that word pierced and look 00:32:34.080 --> 00:32:39.760 at the underlying Hebrew, the word there is lion, it's not pierced, 00:32:39.760 --> 00:32:44.800 which is the problem with this particular text in the rabbinic text, 00:32:44.800 --> 00:32:49.040 because what it actually says in the Hebrew is like a lion 00:32:49.200 --> 00:32:51.120 at my hands and feet. 00:32:51.120 --> 00:32:56.720 You completely lose the prophecy, the Christological prophecy concerning the crucifixion. 00:32:56.720 --> 00:32:59.280 It simply is not there in the Hebrew. 00:32:59.280 --> 00:33:04.880 But you'll find that basically every English translation has pierced my hands 00:33:04.880 --> 00:33:05.600 and feet. 00:33:05.600 --> 00:33:08.640 It's the same in the King James, they pierced my hands and 00:33:08.640 --> 00:33:13.520 feet. All of these translations resort to the Greek and don't even 00:33:13.520 --> 00:33:14.800 make a note on it. 00:33:14.800 --> 00:33:17.760 Now some of them may footnote it, but most of them don't. 00:33:17.760 --> 00:33:22.240 This is something that they have simply corrected in the rabbinic text 00:33:22.320 --> 00:33:24.640 and then imported into their translation. 00:33:24.640 --> 00:33:27.360 And like I said, it is the exact same thing done in 00:33:27.840 --> 00:33:33.280 even the literal, supposedly literal translations of the Hebrew, they still don't 00:33:33.200 --> 00:33:34.080 use the Hebrew. 00:33:34.080 --> 00:33:37.680 They are using the Greek because the Greek is the actual text 00:33:37.680 --> 00:33:39.120 of Scripture. 00:33:39.600 --> 00:33:42.400 Structurally there are a few things that are going on in Psalm 00:33:42.480 --> 00:33:47.120 22:16 that are different than the Isaiah 7:14 example. 00:33:47.120 --> 00:33:52.560 One, the change itself completely breaks the text. 00:33:52.560 --> 00:33:55.200 You know, whether it's a young woman or virgin, it still makes 00:33:55.200 --> 00:33:57.200 sense. It's a complete sentence. 00:33:57.200 --> 00:34:01.200 This, where pierced is changed to lion, no longer makes sense because 00:34:01.280 --> 00:34:02.880 those are two different parts of speech. 00:34:02.880 --> 00:34:05.200 One's a verb, the other's a noun. 00:34:05.200 --> 00:34:10.080 So with the change that the rabbinic text includes, you no longer 00:34:10.080 --> 00:34:11.280 have a complete sentence. 00:34:11.280 --> 00:34:13.520 It's actually irrational. 00:34:13.520 --> 00:34:18.400 And there's no legitimate argument for how any of the scribes would 00:34:18.400 --> 00:34:23.120 have just accidentally forgotten what was going on and produced a sentence 00:34:23.120 --> 00:34:24.720 that doesn't mean anything. 00:34:24.720 --> 00:34:27.280 It breaks the structure of the passage. 00:34:27.280 --> 00:34:30.000 It makes the sentence not a sentence. 00:34:30.000 --> 00:34:34.400 And unlike the alma versus Batullah thing, what's happening here is the 00:34:34.400 --> 00:34:36.400 difference of a single character. 00:34:36.400 --> 00:34:40.240 Elsewhere in scripture it talks about not a single iota being lost. 00:34:40.240 --> 00:34:44.400 What we have here in this verse in the Hebrew script, you 00:34:44.400 --> 00:34:47.440 have You have two different letters, one's a Vav and one's a 00:34:47.440 --> 00:34:51.840 Yod. It's really just the difference in the height, the line height. 00:34:51.840 --> 00:34:55.920 It's like an upside down J versus a shortened version of that. 00:34:55.920 --> 00:34:59.360 The closest example for you to picture in English would be Would 00:34:59.360 --> 00:35:03.280 be the difference between a lowercase I and a lowercase j. 00:35:03.280 --> 00:35:06.240 An i and a j are the same letter, except that the 00:35:06.240 --> 00:35:08.240 j has that little hook at the end. 00:35:08.240 --> 00:35:09.920 In this case, it's not even a hook. 00:35:09.920 --> 00:35:12.800 The hook is present in both, but the length is different. 00:35:12.800 --> 00:35:15.840 And it's interesting that I and J are like that because J 00:35:16.080 --> 00:35:18.960 was originally not a letter in the English alphabet. 00:35:18.960 --> 00:35:20.320 It was added much later on. 00:35:20.320 --> 00:35:21.600 It's fairly recent. 00:35:21.600 --> 00:35:24.880 And so it's a reason in many languages, though not consistently. 00:35:24.880 --> 00:35:27.680 I's we pronounced like J, or sometimes the J's pronounced like a 00:35:28.160 --> 00:35:30.720 Y. It's kind of messy because of that because it was a 00:35:30.720 --> 00:35:32.000 late addition. 00:35:32.000 --> 00:35:35.360 So we have the notion in English of these small changes having 00:35:35.360 --> 00:35:37.200 big effects downstream. 00:35:37.200 --> 00:35:40.000 Yeah, in the case of this one thing, one of the arguments 00:35:40.000 --> 00:35:41.440 would be oh it's a scribal error. 00:35:41.440 --> 00:35:43.600 They just changed a little bit and they forgot. 00:35:43.600 --> 00:35:47.520 Yeah, they forgot that like a lion and said it pierced my 00:35:47.520 --> 00:35:48.160 hands and feet. 00:35:48.160 --> 00:35:49.440 It doesn't make any sense. 00:35:49.440 --> 00:35:50.960 And they know it doesn't. 00:35:51.120 --> 00:35:52.240 But what did it do? 00:35:52.240 --> 00:35:53.440 It created more bait. 00:35:53.440 --> 00:35:56.240 Suddenly Christians are going to come along and say, oh, obviously we 00:35:56.240 --> 00:35:58.240 have to use the Septuagint, it's much better. 00:35:58.240 --> 00:36:03.680 And now they've introduced the Christological hermeneutic for the text that opens 00:36:03.680 --> 00:36:05.200 them up later on. 00:36:05.200 --> 00:36:10.160 Interestingly, even the earliest manuscripts, including ones used by Jerome, do say 00:36:10.160 --> 00:36:11.520 they pierced. 00:36:11.520 --> 00:36:16.000 So some of these messes occur at different points in history, but 00:36:16.000 --> 00:36:19.920 by the time we get to the Leningrad Codex that was one 00:36:19.920 --> 00:36:24.080 thousand eight AD, they had very much locked in the different character 00:36:24.080 --> 00:36:25.680 that made it a lion. 00:36:25.680 --> 00:36:29.040 So some of the changes were before Christ, some of the changes 00:36:29.040 --> 00:36:30.320 were must be after Christ. 00:36:30.560 --> 00:36:32.960 The good news is the church has always fixed it. 00:36:32.960 --> 00:36:36.560 We always ignored the rabbis, did what the Septuagint said. 00:36:36.560 --> 00:36:41.040 The bad news is we started playing picky choosy with Christological prophecies. 00:36:41.520 --> 00:36:44.720 So the next passage we're going to deal with kind of bridges 00:36:44.720 --> 00:36:50.000 from this first category where the rabbinic text is clearly corrupt and 00:36:50.000 --> 00:36:54.320 the church has always just ignored it, to a case where we 00:36:54.320 --> 00:37:00.160 have what is often seen as a Christological prophecy that in one 00:37:00.160 --> 00:37:04.160 part is removed by the Septuagint, but in another part is actually 00:37:04.160 --> 00:37:09.200 enhanced, is a famous passage that gets quoted a lot specifically as 00:37:09.200 --> 00:37:13.280 a very Christological text, but if you actually look at it in 00:37:13.280 --> 00:37:17.440 the rabbinic text, on one hand it does have a word that 00:37:17.440 --> 00:37:19.040 makes it more Christological. 00:37:19.040 --> 00:37:22.080 On the other hand, it doesn't sound much like Christ at all. 00:37:22.080 --> 00:37:26.960 Whereas when we look at the Septuagint text, we lose one word, 00:37:26.960 --> 00:37:31.440 but we gain a description that sounds as much more like Jesus. 00:37:31.440 --> 00:37:34.720 So that's why it's kind of the bridge between these categories. 00:37:34.720 --> 00:37:37.920 So this is Psalm two, verses ten through twelve. 00:37:37.920 --> 00:37:40.560 And we're mostly focusing on verse twelve, but I'm gonna give you 00:37:40.560 --> 00:37:43.520 the intro just because it sets the frame for how we have 00:37:43.520 --> 00:37:45.120 to understand what comes next. 00:37:45.120 --> 00:37:49.120 So it begins Now therefore, O kings, be wise, be warned, O 00:37:49.120 --> 00:37:52.000 rulers of the earth, serve the Lord with fear and rejoice with 00:37:52.000 --> 00:37:54.560 trembling. And we get to verse twelve. 00:37:54.560 --> 00:37:59.600 The ESV correctly rendering what is in the Rabbinic text says kiss 00:37:59.600 --> 00:38:03.520 the sun, lest he be angry and you perish in the way, 00:38:03.520 --> 00:38:05.760 for his wrath is quickly kindled. 00:38:05.760 --> 00:38:08.800 Blessed are all who take refuge in him. 00:38:08.800 --> 00:38:12.960 So we frequently throughout church history, at least after Jerome, have people 00:38:12.960 --> 00:38:14.320 saying, Oh, kiss the sun. 00:38:14.320 --> 00:38:16.720 And most of your Bibles are going to put sun with a 00:38:16.720 --> 00:38:18.880 capital letter so you know it's Jesus. 00:38:18.880 --> 00:38:21.600 So it's long been held that this was about Jesus, kiss the 00:38:21.600 --> 00:38:22.240 sun. Well, great. 00:38:22.240 --> 00:38:24.640 Here we have the second person of the Trinity in the Old 00:38:24.640 --> 00:38:26.480 Testament, in the Psalms. 00:38:26.480 --> 00:38:28.720 But when you read the rest of it, it's like he's gonna 00:38:28.720 --> 00:38:31.040 be angry and you perish in the way. 00:38:31.280 --> 00:38:34.400 Not entirely sure what that is, but obviously I'm dead, so it's 00:38:34.320 --> 00:38:38.480 bad. And his wrath is suddenly kindled like just out of randomness. 00:38:38.480 --> 00:38:43.600 Basically it makes Jesus seem capricious and violent and terrifying. 00:38:43.600 --> 00:38:45.760 Now we did the Fear of the Lord episode talking about the 00:38:45.760 --> 00:38:51.680 fact that Jesus and God himself in the Trinity is undoubtedly a 00:38:51.680 --> 00:38:53.280 fearful God. 00:38:53.440 --> 00:38:54.480 There's another word for him. 00:38:54.480 --> 00:38:55.760 I was going to say creature, entity. 00:38:55.920 --> 00:38:56.480 He's God. 00:38:56.480 --> 00:38:58.800 He's a superset of everything else. 00:38:58.800 --> 00:39:03.760 He's terrifying in one sense, but his behavior is not capricious. 00:39:03.760 --> 00:39:05.600 It always follows rules. 00:39:05.600 --> 00:39:09.440 Here's what the Brenton Septuagint translation says for the same thing. 00:39:09.440 --> 00:39:14.160 Instead of kiss the sun, it says accept correction, lest at any 00:39:14.160 --> 00:39:17.760 time the Lord be angry, and you should perish from the righteous 00:39:17.760 --> 00:39:22.320 way. Wherever his wrath shall suddenly be kindled, blessed are all they 00:39:22.320 --> 00:39:24.080 that trust in him. 00:39:24.080 --> 00:39:26.560 That has a fundamentally different tenor, doesn't it? 00:39:26.560 --> 00:39:28.240 We've lost Kiss the Sun. 00:39:28.240 --> 00:39:32.320 It's been replaced with accept correction in another even more literal translation 00:39:32.320 --> 00:39:34.880 of the Greek would be seize discipline. 00:39:34.880 --> 00:39:36.240 So what's that saying? 00:39:36.240 --> 00:39:38.320 God is saying to do something. 00:39:38.320 --> 00:39:39.280 Accept correction. 00:39:39.280 --> 00:39:40.160 Seize discipline. 00:39:40.160 --> 00:39:43.120 If God corrects you, take it willingly, gladly. 00:39:44.160 --> 00:39:46.960 Accept correction lest at any time the Lord be angry. 00:39:46.960 --> 00:39:49.280 So explains why would God be angry? 00:39:49.280 --> 00:39:53.520 You accept God's discipline so that you do not anger him, and 00:39:53.520 --> 00:39:56.560 you should perish from the righteous way, which is different from the 00:39:56.560 --> 00:39:59.120 rabbinic text, which just says you perish in the way. 00:39:59.120 --> 00:40:00.320 Like what way is that? 00:40:00.320 --> 00:40:02.320 So they deleted righteous as well. 00:40:02.320 --> 00:40:03.440 That's a big deal. 00:40:03.440 --> 00:40:05.920 And so on one hand, this is the reason it bridges these 00:40:05.920 --> 00:40:09.680 categories. If kiss the sun is one of your favorite passages and 00:40:09.680 --> 00:40:12.480 it's one you want to go to, then the Septuagint is less 00:40:12.480 --> 00:40:14.560 Christological because it doesn't say kiss the sun anymore. 00:40:14.560 --> 00:40:20.160 Andstead it says seize discipline, accept correction, and then explains why the 00:40:20.160 --> 00:40:25.280 sun, who is clearly being referenced here, is going to behave angrily. 00:40:25.280 --> 00:40:28.320 It's if you don't, if you misbehave, if you sin and persist 00:40:28.320 --> 00:40:30.720 in your sin and reject discipline. 00:40:30.720 --> 00:40:35.040 So this is a much more Christological passage in the Septuagint than 00:40:35.040 --> 00:40:38.960 it is in the rabbinic text, but we lose kiss the sun. 00:40:38.960 --> 00:40:40.560 So that's why it's the bridge here. 00:40:40.560 --> 00:40:41.440 What are you gonna do? 00:40:41.440 --> 00:40:43.840 Are you gonna picky choosy and say, Well, I like kiss the 00:40:43.840 --> 00:40:46.240 sun, so I'm gonna stick with the rabbinic text? 00:40:46.240 --> 00:40:50.000 Well, when you actually look at the Greek, it actually sounds like 00:40:50.000 --> 00:40:53.040 God. Sounds like the Jesus Christ that we know. 00:40:53.040 --> 00:40:56.960 This Christ is one who is not capricious in his anger. 00:40:56.960 --> 00:41:01.760 His anger is kindled based on sin in rejecting his rebukes. 00:41:01.760 --> 00:41:03.120 That makes sense. 00:41:03.120 --> 00:41:06.000 And so when we don't want to perish on the righteous way, 00:41:06.000 --> 00:41:07.840 we're blessed when we trust in him. 00:41:07.840 --> 00:41:08.800 That's good news. 00:41:08.800 --> 00:41:12.640 It's actually a gospel passage instead of pure law where Christ is 00:41:12.640 --> 00:41:14.320 just terrifying. 00:41:14.960 --> 00:41:15.280 We 00:41:15.280 --> 00:41:20.320 can also very clearly see a change in sort of the underlying 00:41:20.320 --> 00:41:26.000 assumptions in the text that is in the Hebrew and the actual 00:41:26.000 --> 00:41:28.080 Greek text of Scripture. 00:41:28.080 --> 00:41:31.360 If you read through some of the exeges, some of the commenters 00:41:31.360 --> 00:41:36.000 on this particular psalm, they struggle a little bit with Kiss the 00:41:36.000 --> 00:41:40.080 Sun, because as Will pointed out, it seems like it makes God 00:41:40.080 --> 00:41:43.040 capricious or the sort of ruler you expect 00:41:44.240 --> 00:41:49.040 from, say, a Near Eastern or Middle Eastern Empire, and they resort 00:41:49.040 --> 00:41:51.200 to historical examples in order to explain this. 00:41:51.200 --> 00:41:54.400 Because of course, if you look and just see Kiss the Sun, 00:41:54.400 --> 00:41:55.840 how do you explain that? 00:41:55.840 --> 00:41:58.640 The only The only way you can really explain it is by 00:41:58.640 --> 00:42:02.560 recognizing some of the customs of that region in which you would 00:42:02.560 --> 00:42:05.520 either kiss the hand or the ring or the garment or even 00:42:05.520 --> 00:42:09.680 the feet of a king, in order to be in full submission 00:42:09.680 --> 00:42:10.880 to that king. 00:42:11.280 --> 00:42:14.320 This was one of the things that was frequently required of a 00:42:14.320 --> 00:42:16.560 conquered people in that region. 00:42:16.560 --> 00:42:19.440 And so if you look at it in that way, are we 00:42:19.440 --> 00:42:21.200 supposed to submit to God in that way? 00:42:21.200 --> 00:42:24.720 Of course, he's God, and we are creatures. 00:42:24.720 --> 00:42:30.240 But it makes him into this capricious God who simply destroys and 00:42:30.240 --> 00:42:33.680 conquers. Whereas in the Greek we have this 00:42:34.640 --> 00:42:39.520 completely vital point, what does God want from you? 00:42:39.520 --> 00:42:42.560 He wants you to obey because he wants you to follow in 00:42:42.560 --> 00:42:47.680 the righteous way, not simply because I'm God and I told you 00:42:47.680 --> 00:42:53.200 to Now that's not entirely wrong, but the issue is what is 00:42:53.200 --> 00:42:54.800 it that God is telling you to do? 00:42:54.800 --> 00:42:58.080 God is always telling you to do that which is right, because 00:42:58.080 --> 00:43:02.400 God isn't capricious, God follows rules, God follows laws. 00:43:02.400 --> 00:43:05.520 The moral law flows from God's nature. 00:43:05.520 --> 00:43:10.480 And so this righteousness is behaving in accord with the moral law. 00:43:10.480 --> 00:43:14.080 It is a fundamentally different verse in the Greek from what we 00:43:14.080 --> 00:43:16.000 have in the Hebrew. 00:43:16.000 --> 00:43:19.760 And so submitting to God isn't the problem here. 00:43:19.760 --> 00:43:22.560 The problem is why are you submitting to God? 00:43:22.560 --> 00:43:24.960 What does submission to God entail? 00:43:25.120 --> 00:43:31.600 It entails righteousness, which is completely and totally absent from the translation 00:43:31.600 --> 00:43:34.640 that we have in most of our English versions of the Bible, 00:43:34.640 --> 00:43:38.160 which follow the rabbinic text. 00:43:38.160 --> 00:43:42.080 So the next scripture section that we have, the next selection we 00:43:42.080 --> 00:43:46.240 have in this section of the episode is from the book of 00:43:46.240 --> 00:43:49.680 Isaiah, and we will be going through a few different examples in 00:43:49.680 --> 00:43:51.600 this episode from Isaiah. 00:43:51.760 --> 00:43:54.880 It's one of the books that changes in ways that are indeed 00:43:54.880 --> 00:44:00.480 salient. And so from Isaiah six verses eight through ten I'll be 00:44:00.480 --> 00:44:02.800 reading first from the ESV. 00:44:02.800 --> 00:44:05.600 And I heard the voice of the Lord saying, Whom shall I 00:44:05.600 --> 00:44:07.840 send, and who will go for us? 00:44:07.840 --> 00:44:10.480 Then I said, Here I am, send me. 00:44:10.480 --> 00:44:14.800 And he said, Go and say to this people, Keep on hearing, 00:44:14.800 --> 00:44:19.120 but do not understand, keep on seeing, but do not perceive, make 00:44:19.280 --> 00:44:23.120 the heart of this people dull, and their ears heavy, and blind 00:44:23.120 --> 00:44:26.640 their eyes, lest they see with their eyes, and hear with their 00:44:26.640 --> 00:44:31.920 ears, and understand with their hearts, and turn and be healed. 00:44:31.920 --> 00:44:36.160 And now I will read from the Septuagint the Brenton translation. 00:44:36.160 --> 00:44:39.200 And I heard the voice of the Lord saying, Whom shall I 00:44:39.200 --> 00:44:41.680 send, and who will go to this people? 00:44:41.680 --> 00:44:44.960 And I said, Behold I am here, send me. 00:44:44.960 --> 00:44:48.880 And he said, Go and say to this people, ye shall hear 00:44:48.880 --> 00:44:53.120 indeed, but ye shall not understand, and ye shall see indeed, but 00:44:53.120 --> 00:44:56.880 ye shall not perceive, for the heart of this people has become 00:44:56.880 --> 00:45:01.040 gross, and their ears are dull of hearing, and their eyes they 00:45:01.040 --> 00:45:04.480 have closed, lest they should see with their eyes, and hear with 00:45:04.480 --> 00:45:08.480 their ears, and understand with their heart, and be converted, and I 00:45:08.480 --> 00:45:10.800 should heal them. 00:45:10.800 --> 00:45:16.560 Now if you listened carefully to those two sections, those two translations, 00:45:16.560 --> 00:45:19.040 or if you go and read them for yourself, which is probably 00:45:19.040 --> 00:45:23.120 helpful for some of these longer passages, the fault clearly lies with 00:45:23.120 --> 00:45:24.080 the people. 00:45:24.080 --> 00:45:26.160 The fault is not with God. 00:45:26.160 --> 00:45:30.080 God is not the one who begrudges these people salvation. 00:45:30.080 --> 00:45:32.160 These people have hardened themselves. 00:45:32.160 --> 00:45:36.240 God is simply confirming them in their sin, in their wickedness. 00:45:36.240 --> 00:45:38.800 It's the same sort of issue that we have when we read 00:45:38.800 --> 00:45:40.960 through the passages involving Pharaoh. 00:45:40.960 --> 00:45:44.000 There are those who will say, How can Pharaoh be to blame 00:45:44.000 --> 00:45:45.440 if God is the one who hardened him? 00:45:45.440 --> 00:45:48.320 Well go and read those passages but read carefully. 00:45:48.320 --> 00:45:50.560 Pharaoh hardens his heart. 00:45:50.560 --> 00:45:52.960 God confirms him in his error. 00:45:52.960 --> 00:45:54.560 That's what's happening here. 00:45:54.560 --> 00:45:58.240 But if you just read it in the translation of the rabbinic 00:45:58.240 --> 00:46:01.600 text in the English, in the English Standard Version, and many others, 00:46:01.600 --> 00:46:05.200 then it looks like God begrudges these people salvation. 00:46:05.200 --> 00:46:08.720 It looks like God is the one who for whatever his own 00:46:08.720 --> 00:46:12.800 purposes happen to be, that are not declared here He's damning these 00:46:12.800 --> 00:46:15.920 people of his own volition of his own will, and that's not 00:46:15.920 --> 00:46:16.720 the case. 00:46:16.720 --> 00:46:20.720 He is confirming them in their wickedness, which is consonant with what 00:46:20.720 --> 00:46:23.200 we see all over the Old Testament. 00:46:23.200 --> 00:46:28.320 When men act wickedly, God will confirm them in their wickedness, but 00:46:28.320 --> 00:46:31.280 God is not the one who causes them to fall into that 00:46:31.280 --> 00:46:35.280 wickedness. That is a fundamentally different claim, and it goes against the 00:46:35.280 --> 00:46:37.600 very nature of God. 00:46:37.520 --> 00:46:37.920 I'm 00:46:37.920 --> 00:46:41.440 gonna reread just two brief portions of that just to make sure 00:46:41.440 --> 00:46:45.200 that it comes through clearly because this is a huge deal. 00:46:45.200 --> 00:46:47.760 The beginning of verse ten. 00:46:47.760 --> 00:46:51.120 The reading from the ESV it says, make the heart of this 00:46:51.120 --> 00:46:54.960 people dull, and their ears heavy and blind their eyes, lest they 00:46:54.960 --> 00:46:55.920 see with their eyes. 00:46:55.920 --> 00:46:56.800 So it goes on. 00:46:56.800 --> 00:46:59.760 But as Cory said, it's God causing it. 00:46:59.760 --> 00:47:01.360 It's God hardening. 00:47:01.360 --> 00:47:04.160 Not remotely what's happening in the Greek. 00:47:04.160 --> 00:47:07.920 It begins effectively with a lamentation, for the heart of this people 00:47:07.920 --> 00:47:10.480 has become grossed and their ears are dull of hearing and their 00:47:10.480 --> 00:47:11.840 eyes have been closed. 00:47:11.840 --> 00:47:15.600 And then verse ten ends lest they should see with their eyes 00:47:15.600 --> 00:47:17.840 and hear with their ears and understand with their heart and be 00:47:17.840 --> 00:47:20.320 converted, and I should heal them. 00:47:20.320 --> 00:47:24.400 This is a lamentation of God that these Jews are so hard 00:47:24.400 --> 00:47:27.360 hearted that he can't get through to them. 00:47:27.360 --> 00:47:30.240 Which is completely gone when you look at ten in the ESV, 00:47:30.240 --> 00:47:33.680 which is based on the rabbinic text, which even says at the 00:47:33.680 --> 00:47:36.640 end, less they see and turn and be healed. 00:47:36.640 --> 00:47:38.400 Well, who's doing the healing? 00:47:38.400 --> 00:47:43.760 It's a dilution, it's not a complete inversion, but it's so substantial 00:47:43.760 --> 00:47:48.320 in reducing God's action on one hand of his lamentation, on the 00:47:48.320 --> 00:47:51.840 other hand of causing them to be hard-hearted, that it flips the 00:47:51.840 --> 00:47:54.160 thing on its head without even seeming like it. 00:47:54.160 --> 00:47:56.320 And that's the case in a lot of the passages, many more 00:47:56.320 --> 00:47:58.160 than we're going to get into today. 00:47:58.160 --> 00:48:01.280 It's a very common thing that you will find that the edits 00:48:01.360 --> 00:48:06.000 made in the rabbinic text lessen the guilt of the Jews and 00:48:06.000 --> 00:48:08.800 really put more of it on God, or they just make God 00:48:08.800 --> 00:48:10.480 worse and them better. 00:48:10.480 --> 00:48:13.680 That is a recurring theme, which is why we began with those 00:48:13.680 --> 00:48:18.720 couple famous passages, because every time I look I find another terrible 00:48:18.720 --> 00:48:19.760 example of this. 00:48:19.760 --> 00:48:24.000 I hadn't actually found this example in Cory Found that I didn't. 00:48:24.000 --> 00:48:25.280 But it's typical. 00:48:25.280 --> 00:48:28.640 When you start comparing side by side, you will frequently find this 00:48:28.640 --> 00:48:29.600 sort of thing. 00:48:29.600 --> 00:48:33.840 God is worse, the Jews are better, they're victims, they're fine, they're 00:48:33.840 --> 00:48:38.560 blameless. When God says their hearts are gross, he is not wrong. 00:48:39.520 --> 00:48:43.440 So the next passage it's worth highlighting is from Isaiah 9 6. 00:48:43.440 --> 00:48:47.360 There's another very famous one that includes one of the fourfold titles 00:48:47.680 --> 00:48:48.240 of God. 00:48:48.240 --> 00:48:49.520 It's how it's known. 00:48:49.520 --> 00:48:52.960 You'll recognize this right off the bat, but I'm actually just going 00:48:52.960 --> 00:48:57.120 to read from the Septuagint from Brenton instead, and I'll show you 00:48:57.120 --> 00:49:01.440 the contrast that's present in the ESV based on the rabbinic text. 00:49:01.440 --> 00:49:04.800 Isaiah nine six for a child is born to us and a 00:49:04.800 --> 00:49:08.320 son is given to us, whose government is upon his shoulder, and 00:49:08.320 --> 00:49:11.600 his name is called the messenger of great counsel, for I will 00:49:11.600 --> 00:49:15.440 bring peace upon the princes and health to him. 00:49:15.440 --> 00:49:18.800 Now you recognize that passage, but probably sounded a little bit shorter, 00:49:18.800 --> 00:49:20.240 which is why we're highlighting it. 00:49:20.240 --> 00:49:21.600 What was missing? 00:49:21.600 --> 00:49:25.360 The rabbinic text says instead of messenger of great counsel, it says 00:49:25.520 --> 00:49:31.200 and you will be called wonderful counselor, mighty God, everlasting father, Prince 00:49:31.200 --> 00:49:35.600 of Peace, which is something always comes up at Christmas time, it's 00:49:35.600 --> 00:49:40.800 famous, it's beautiful, but it's only present in the rabbinic text. 00:49:40.800 --> 00:49:46.080 So on one hand, this is a loss if we choose to 00:49:46.080 --> 00:49:50.560 keep Jesus and the apostles and follow the Septuagint. 00:49:50.560 --> 00:49:54.560 On the other hand, in the context of the passage, when it 00:49:54.560 --> 00:49:58.960 says he's a messenger of great counsel, and then describes the fruit 00:49:58.960 --> 00:50:02.000 of that counsel, his great counsel will bring peace upon the princes 00:50:02.000 --> 00:50:03.680 and health to him. 00:50:03.680 --> 00:50:08.400 Another thing that for a long time early church fathers, once they 00:50:08.400 --> 00:50:12.880 began to adopt the rabbinic text for this, would excuse the presence 00:50:12.880 --> 00:50:16.240 of everlasting father as a title for the son. 00:50:16.240 --> 00:50:19.360 Say, oh well, that's not confusing the persons of the Trinity. 00:50:19.360 --> 00:50:20.640 Here's a reason why it's fine. 00:50:21.040 --> 00:50:25.360 he's he's a father of a new age in creation, but that's 00:50:25.360 --> 00:50:27.680 different from being the father. 00:50:27.680 --> 00:50:30.480 I don't want to pick that fight, but it's just interesting that 00:50:30.480 --> 00:50:34.400 we don't have to have any of those concerns if we simply 00:50:34.400 --> 00:50:37.520 resort to the title the Greek gives him, which is messenger of 00:50:37.520 --> 00:50:38.480 great counsel. 00:50:38.480 --> 00:50:41.440 And so this is an example where we all know the other 00:50:41.440 --> 00:50:44.880 passage. We all know he will be called wonderful counselor, mighty God, 00:50:44.880 --> 00:50:46.560 everlasting Father, Prince of Peace. 00:50:46.560 --> 00:50:48.160 We know it, we love it. 00:50:48.160 --> 00:50:53.920 And so it's necessary to just coldly confront are we going to 00:50:53.920 --> 00:50:56.480 let attachment be the basis? 00:50:56.480 --> 00:50:58.800 Or are we going to have to rely on other things as 00:50:58.800 --> 00:51:01.600 a basis for determining which is actually Scripture? 00:51:01.600 --> 00:51:03.920 Which one did God breathe out? 00:51:03.920 --> 00:51:07.040 As we'll see hence a number of other examples where the New 00:51:07.120 --> 00:51:10.720 Testament quotes Isaiah, we've already had a couple, it only quotes the 00:51:10.720 --> 00:51:15.040 Septuagint. It doesn't quote the rabbinic text. 00:51:15.040 --> 00:51:15.360 So 00:51:16.240 --> 00:51:20.480 personally, and my argument to you is that some of these changes 00:51:20.480 --> 00:51:24.960 that do seem more Christological, they're acting as bait. 00:51:24.960 --> 00:51:28.160 They're acting as the same kind of bait that we had with 00:51:28.160 --> 00:51:31.200 the literal reading being present in those rabbinic commentaries. 00:51:31.200 --> 00:51:32.080 Oh, it's great. 00:51:32.080 --> 00:51:33.920 The rabbis have all this stuff sorted out. 00:51:33.920 --> 00:51:36.720 We can get a better read on scripture by listening to them. 00:51:36.720 --> 00:51:37.760 So what happens? 00:51:38.000 --> 00:51:40.640 We have Christians picky choosy with their Bible. 00:51:40.720 --> 00:51:44.320 They just take whatever translation they prefer, which everyone has more Jesus, 00:51:44.320 --> 00:51:45.920 and if it turns out that we have to go to the 00:51:45.920 --> 00:51:47.600 rabbinic text to do it, well great. 00:51:47.600 --> 00:51:49.520 I was reading their commentaries anyway. 00:51:49.520 --> 00:51:51.600 Why shouldn't I use their text too? 00:51:51.920 --> 00:51:55.520 If that is the basis for scripture, then we have bigger problems, 00:51:55.520 --> 00:51:56.800 which we now do. 00:51:56.800 --> 00:52:01.760 If we keep Jesus and the apostles, we don't make that decision. 00:52:01.760 --> 00:52:02.160 When we 00:52:02.720 --> 00:52:08.880 see the title of Christ as messenger here, it's important to bear 00:52:08.880 --> 00:52:13.040 in mind the underlying Greek word, because the underlying Greek word is 00:52:13.040 --> 00:52:16.480 Angelos, from which we get the word angel. 00:52:16.480 --> 00:52:20.800 The angel of the Lord is an ordinary title for Christ all 00:52:20.800 --> 00:52:22.880 throughout the Old Testament. 00:52:22.880 --> 00:52:27.520 We see Christ appear, we see Christophanes in many places in the 00:52:27.520 --> 00:52:30.240 Old Testament where he is called the angel of the Lord. 00:52:30.240 --> 00:52:32.400 I would actually say it would be a very productive use of 00:52:32.400 --> 00:52:34.240 your time to go and read those. 00:52:34.240 --> 00:52:37.680 You will see many places in which the angel of the Lord 00:52:37.680 --> 00:52:41.120 is saying things as if he were God or speaking as 00:52:42.080 --> 00:52:44.720 God because in fact he is God. 00:52:44.720 --> 00:52:47.520 That is the preincarnate Christ. 00:52:47.520 --> 00:52:50.000 We've gone into that before it's part of the two powers in 00:52:50.000 --> 00:52:55.680 heaven interpretation that the Jews used to use before Christ came and 00:52:55.680 --> 00:52:59.440 they couldn't use that anymore because it made people into Christians. 00:52:59.440 --> 00:53:02.720 But we've gone over that previously, so it's a topic for another 00:53:02.720 --> 00:53:04.720 episode, another time. 00:53:04.800 --> 00:53:08.480 The next example is also from Isaiah. 00:53:08.480 --> 00:53:13.120 In this case, I very strongly encourage you to go read Isaiah 00:53:13.280 --> 00:53:19.120 53 in whatever your English translation is and then in the Septuagint. 00:53:19.360 --> 00:53:23.440 Because it's very difficult to hold large chunks of text in your 00:53:23.440 --> 00:53:27.040 mind and compare them when listening to them being read aloud. 00:53:27.040 --> 00:53:29.360 It's much easier if you can have them side by side and 00:53:29.360 --> 00:53:30.880 actually look back and forth. 00:53:30.880 --> 00:53:34.160 And so we're going to focus in on verse 5 only, but 00:53:34.160 --> 00:53:39.920 again, I recommend you read the entire chapter in both versions, in 00:53:39.920 --> 00:53:44.880 an English translation and in an English translation of the Septuagint. 00:53:45.120 --> 00:53:49.520 So first from the ESV, but he was pierced for our transgressions, 00:53:49.520 --> 00:53:51.680 he was crushed for our iniquities. 00:53:51.680 --> 00:53:55.280 Upon him was the chastisement that brought us peace, and with his 00:53:55.440 --> 00:53:58.240 wounds we are healed. 00:53:58.240 --> 00:54:01.600 Then I will read from the Lexum in this case. 00:54:01.600 --> 00:54:05.200 But he was wounded because of our sins, and he became weakened 00:54:05.200 --> 00:54:06.880 because of our lawless acts. 00:54:06.880 --> 00:54:09.760 The discipline of our peace was upon him. 00:54:09.760 --> 00:54:12.480 By his bruise we were healed. 00:54:13.520 --> 00:54:17.600 The reason for highlighting this verse is that again I'm going to 00:54:17.600 --> 00:54:20.800 encourage you to go to Bible Hub and look up Isaiah 53.5 00:54:21.280 --> 00:54:23.920 and just scroll through how they're rendered. 00:54:23.920 --> 00:54:31.840 You'll find that there's no consistency between using both pierced and stripes. 00:54:31.840 --> 00:54:36.400 And those are terms that are used in English in many of 00:54:36.400 --> 00:54:38.080 the translations, but not consistently. 00:54:38.080 --> 00:54:39.440 No one will have both of them. 00:54:39.440 --> 00:54:43.040 And it's not that the underlying words are fundamentally different. 00:54:43.040 --> 00:54:48.000 Stripes in this case, and bruise and wound are essentially the same 00:54:48.000 --> 00:54:51.680 thing. Depending on context, they could be the same thing. 00:54:51.680 --> 00:54:57.920 So while this is maybe a very slight weakening of a crystallological 00:54:58.160 --> 00:55:03.200 nature, it's only if you choose to translate the wound as stripes 00:55:03.200 --> 00:55:07.280 in the beginning, which is typically how it's done with the Septuagint. 00:55:07.280 --> 00:55:11.840 I highlighted this because one, this is another phrase, the last phrase 00:55:11.840 --> 00:55:15.760 in that is directly quoted in first Peter two twenty four. 00:55:15.760 --> 00:55:19.200 He quotes by his stripes we are healed, which again the underlying 00:55:19.200 --> 00:55:20.880 is basically bruised. 00:55:20.880 --> 00:55:24.560 So if you hone in on well, I want to see stripes 00:55:24.560 --> 00:55:28.400 everywhere in my Bible, you may find that that falls away in 00:55:28.400 --> 00:55:29.440 the Septuagint. 00:55:29.440 --> 00:55:32.720 And again, it's almost subjective at this point because depending on how 00:55:32.720 --> 00:55:34.880 you want to translate, you could get it either way. 00:55:34.880 --> 00:55:38.320 And that's where a lot of the translation committee decisions go from 00:55:38.880 --> 00:55:45.200 they were clearly being imprecise with importing the New Testament renderings back 00:55:45.200 --> 00:55:46.080 into the old. 00:55:46.320 --> 00:55:49.200 A lot of times it's just it's a translation of one language 00:55:49.200 --> 00:55:50.880 into another and there's nuance. 00:55:50.880 --> 00:55:55.280 You know, I could say a very simple English sentence, he hit 00:55:55.280 --> 00:55:58.320 the ball, or I could say he struck the ball, or I 00:55:58.320 --> 00:56:01.040 could say he smashed the ball, or I could say he destroyed 00:56:01.040 --> 00:56:01.920 the ball. 00:56:01.920 --> 00:56:05.760 In the context of a baseball game, all four of those would 00:56:05.760 --> 00:56:06.640 make perfect sense. 00:56:06.640 --> 00:56:07.840 And yet what have I done? 00:56:07.840 --> 00:56:12.000 I've gone from hit to struck to smash to destroyed. 00:56:12.000 --> 00:56:14.880 You could come along and say, well, you say he destroyed the 00:56:14.880 --> 00:56:17.600 ball, but you know, what I meant was he hit it over 00:56:17.600 --> 00:56:18.000 the fence. 00:56:18.000 --> 00:56:20.320 It was a four hundred and fifty foot home run. 00:56:20.320 --> 00:56:22.560 But you could say, well, they went and they found the ball 00:56:22.560 --> 00:56:23.760 and it wasn't destroyed at all. 00:56:23.760 --> 00:56:25.200 It was perfectly intact. 00:56:25.200 --> 00:56:29.280 Well, if I'm talking about a batter playing baseball, I say destroyed, 00:56:29.280 --> 00:56:32.480 I don't necessarily mean that the ball was obliterated. 00:56:32.480 --> 00:56:34.640 I mean that the pitch was obliterated. 00:56:34.640 --> 00:56:36.320 The pitch was destroyed. 00:56:36.320 --> 00:56:37.760 The pitcher was destroyed. 00:56:37.760 --> 00:56:39.360 The ball was intact. 00:56:39.360 --> 00:56:43.040 But if I say he destroyed the ball, it's in the context 00:56:43.040 --> 00:56:44.480 of the whole thing. 00:56:44.480 --> 00:56:46.960 It's another case of synactity. 00:56:46.960 --> 00:56:48.000 Language works that way. 00:56:48.240 --> 00:56:50.000 And we understand it instinctively. 00:56:50.000 --> 00:56:52.960 And so this is Christological. 00:56:52.960 --> 00:56:57.520 It's not necessarily much weakened by the Septuagint, but you have to 00:56:57.520 --> 00:57:01.680 be careful when you're looking at the translations, just to know the 00:57:01.920 --> 00:57:03.520 take it as it is. 00:57:03.520 --> 00:57:07.200 Take the words as God presents them in the original language, and 00:57:07.200 --> 00:57:10.400 then we should try to come up with faithful translations. 00:57:10.400 --> 00:57:13.840 And personally I would be fine with it saying both pierced and 00:57:13.840 --> 00:57:15.760 stripes. I think that's probably fine. 00:57:15.760 --> 00:57:20.720 But the pierced versus wounded is less of an easy sell than 00:57:20.720 --> 00:57:23.840 the wounds versus stripes. 00:57:24.160 --> 00:57:24.560 And when 00:57:24.560 --> 00:57:27.920 you go and look at verse five here, at the very least 00:57:28.080 --> 00:57:32.160 also read verse six, because if you look at the specific wording 00:57:32.160 --> 00:57:36.240 of verse six, the difference between the rabbinic text and the Greek 00:57:36.240 --> 00:57:41.840 text, you do indeed get a stronger Christological prophecy with regard to 00:57:41.840 --> 00:57:46.480 verse six, because in the Rabbinic text it says the Lord has 00:57:46.480 --> 00:57:49.520 laid on him the iniquity of us all, which is very clearly 00:57:49.520 --> 00:57:54.960 Christological, very clearly true But in the rendering of the Greek, you 00:57:54.960 --> 00:57:59.760 get, and the Lord handed him over for our sins, which is 00:57:59.760 --> 00:58:04.880 very clearly more Christological than the Hebrew in this case, because Christ 00:58:04.880 --> 00:58:07.840 was indeed handed over for our sins. 00:58:07.840 --> 00:58:11.200 If you simply have he has laid on him the iniquity of 00:58:11.200 --> 00:58:16.320 us all, that doesn't tell you as much about what Christ is 00:58:16.320 --> 00:58:19.760 going to do from the perspective of when this was written. 00:58:19.760 --> 00:58:23.920 Whereas handed him over for his sins very clearly tells us, in 00:58:23.920 --> 00:58:29.280 fact, exactly what happened with Christ and his passion. 00:58:29.280 --> 00:58:30.960 And so for the next 00:58:31.840 --> 00:58:36.240 example, we're actually going to turn to the book of Zechariah. 00:58:36.240 --> 00:58:41.680 This is one of the examples that will bother some people initially, 00:58:41.680 --> 00:58:43.120 but it really shouldn't. 00:58:43.440 --> 00:58:46.320 For some of the reasons we've already explained, and we'll go over 00:58:46.320 --> 00:58:50.480 some of that again after I read the text here, first from 00:58:50.480 --> 00:58:54.000 the ESV, from Zechariah 12:10. 00:58:54.000 --> 00:58:56.400 And I will pour out on the house of David and the 00:58:56.400 --> 00:59:00.960 inhabitants of Jerusalem a spirit of grace and pleas for mercy, so 00:59:00.960 --> 00:59:04.400 that when they look on me, on him whom they have pierced, 00:59:04.400 --> 00:59:07.840 they shall mourn for him, as one mourns for an only child, 00:59:07.840 --> 00:59:12.880 and weep bitterly over him, as one weeps over a firstborn. 00:59:12.880 --> 00:59:16.000 And now from the translation of the Septuagint. 00:59:16.000 --> 00:59:18.640 And I will pour out upon the house of David, and upon 00:59:18.640 --> 00:59:21.840 the ones who dwell in Jerusalem, a spirit of grace and of 00:59:21.840 --> 00:59:26.560 mercy, and they will look attentively to me, because they dance triumphantly, 00:59:26.560 --> 00:59:29.280 and they will mourn for it with a mourning, as for a 00:59:29.280 --> 00:59:32.720 beloved friend, and they will be grieved with a grief, as for 00:59:32.720 --> 00:59:35.120 the firstborn. 00:59:35.360 --> 00:59:39.440 Now you can clearly see there are some differences between these two 00:59:39.440 --> 00:59:42.560 translations. The one that is going to jump out immediately to most 00:59:42.560 --> 00:59:47.360 Christians, of course, is again with the word pierced. 00:59:47.360 --> 00:59:50.720 It is there in the rabbinic, it is not there in the 00:59:50.720 --> 00:59:55.920 Greek, because the verb in Greek is properly translated dance triumphantly. 00:59:55.920 --> 00:59:59.120 There are some translations that play games with this, and they will 00:59:59.120 --> 01:00:05.680 translate it as pierced, but that's not the underlying Greek verb there. 01:00:05.680 --> 01:00:10.160 However, what we have here in the Greek is still very clearly 01:00:10.160 --> 01:00:13.600 an accurate prophecy with regard to the behavior of the Jews. 01:00:13.600 --> 01:00:16.800 Look at their behavior in many places in the Old Testament, look 01:00:16.800 --> 01:00:18.640 at their behavior today. 01:00:18.640 --> 01:00:22.080 Dancing triumphantly is indeed what they do when they think they have 01:00:22.080 --> 01:00:26.080 committed some great evil and got one over on their enemies. 01:00:26.080 --> 01:00:29.520 That is undoubtedly what they were doing on Golgotha, when they looked 01:00:29.520 --> 01:00:32.480 at Christ on the cross, in addition to mocking him and everything 01:00:32.480 --> 01:00:35.600 else that is recorded in the pages of the New Testament. 01:00:35.600 --> 01:00:40.320 This is indeed an accurate prophecy about what happened to Christ. 01:00:40.320 --> 01:00:42.560 It is It is simply that we do not have the word 01:00:42.560 --> 01:00:47.360 pierced in the Greek, which is something that Christians are used to 01:00:47.360 --> 01:00:50.240 seeing in the translations of the rabbinic. 01:00:50.240 --> 01:00:52.720 This again is one of those cases where you have that hook 01:00:52.720 --> 01:00:57.360 to get you to look at this and and accept something that 01:00:57.360 --> 01:01:02.000 is handed down through oral tradition from those who hate Christ, who 01:01:02.000 --> 01:01:06.800 crucified Christ, who blaspheme him, as opposed to what we actually have 01:01:06.800 --> 01:01:10.400 in the Greek, the actual word of God. 01:01:10.400 --> 01:01:13.440 Don't fall for the bait. 01:01:13.600 --> 01:01:17.600 The reason that this verse in particular is so important to highlight 01:01:17.600 --> 01:01:21.040 when we're looking at the Septuagint versus the Rabbinic text is that 01:01:21.040 --> 01:01:24.400 this is one of the only cases in the New Testament, we'll 01:01:24.480 --> 01:01:29.120 highlight this again in the last couple episodes, where there is actually 01:01:29.120 --> 01:01:36.240 a quotation of the underlying ancient Hebrew, over the Reptuagint. 01:01:36.640 --> 01:01:41.280 So John nineteen thirty seven does quote an old Hebrew text. 01:01:41.280 --> 01:01:45.040 It says, and again another scripture says, They will look on him 01:01:45.200 --> 01:01:47.120 whom they have pierced. 01:01:47.200 --> 01:01:51.200 So that's a case where it quotes what we're calling the rabbinic 01:01:51.200 --> 01:01:53.600 text. And this is John. 01:01:53.600 --> 01:01:55.040 This only appears in John. 01:01:55.040 --> 01:01:57.360 It's not in the other gospels, but that's sufficient. 01:01:57.360 --> 01:02:00.080 We're not going to say, well, you don't need a majority vote 01:02:00.080 --> 01:02:02.480 of gospels to determine what's true. 01:02:02.480 --> 01:02:04.160 If it's in John, it's true. 01:02:04.160 --> 01:02:06.160 So this is a case where they will look upon him who 01:02:06.320 --> 01:02:10.960 they have pierced is fulfillment of prophecy, and it's a prophecy that 01:02:10.960 --> 01:02:15.840 is recorded in what we have left of the Hebrew. 01:02:15.840 --> 01:02:20.640 As Corey said, unlike the examples where we're having complete corruptions of 01:02:20.800 --> 01:02:24.560 prophecy in the rabbinic text and the fix in the Septuagint. 01:02:24.800 --> 01:02:26.080 Both are true. 01:02:26.080 --> 01:02:30.640 But because John nineteen thirty seven attests to the Hebrew version of 01:02:30.640 --> 01:02:34.320 Zechariah twelve ten, we don't need to do anything to the Greek 01:02:34.320 --> 01:02:34.720 at all. 01:02:34.800 --> 01:02:37.200 The Greek is the Greek, and the Greek says that they mocked 01:02:37.200 --> 01:02:40.560 me, they danced triumphantly in mockery. 01:02:40.560 --> 01:02:44.480 When we are making an English translation of this in the future, 01:02:44.480 --> 01:02:48.240 I think that it is entirely reasonable to choose to follow the 01:02:48.240 --> 01:02:53.200 lead of John, to say, okay, John vets that this passage that 01:02:53.200 --> 01:02:57.360 was recorded from the Hebrew and not in the Septuagint says pierced 01:02:57.440 --> 01:02:59.120 instead of mocked. 01:02:59.120 --> 01:03:02.960 I think that is perfectly reasonable for a translation committee to choose 01:03:02.960 --> 01:03:05.520 pierced. I think that's just fine. 01:03:05.520 --> 01:03:10.080 Even though it is contradictory to the specific word present in the 01:03:10.080 --> 01:03:11.680 Old Testament. 01:03:11.680 --> 01:03:15.840 The real question here is not what do we do with this 01:03:15.840 --> 01:03:16.320 one word? 01:03:16.320 --> 01:03:20.000 The real question is, well, if John nineteen thirty seven says that 01:03:20.000 --> 01:03:23.360 the Hebrew is okay, doesn't mean this whole Septuagint thing is just 01:03:23.360 --> 01:03:25.200 fake and it's all canceled. 01:03:25.200 --> 01:03:26.880 I think the opposite is true. 01:03:26.880 --> 01:03:29.280 I think this is one of the only examples where we do 01:03:29.280 --> 01:03:34.800 actually have an older version of Hebrew that is preserved faithfully, incidentally 01:03:34.880 --> 01:03:36.960 in Greek in the New Testament. 01:03:36.960 --> 01:03:40.960 So it's perfectly fine, I think, for us to backport that understanding, 01:03:40.960 --> 01:03:45.520 that rendition into Zechariah when we do a new English translation. 01:03:45.520 --> 01:03:47.200 Again, we don't go mess with the Greek. 01:03:47.200 --> 01:03:49.120 I wouldn't change the Greek text at all. 01:03:49.120 --> 01:03:51.760 But when we're looking at it and we're trying to understand it, 01:03:51.760 --> 01:03:52.880 it's true. 01:03:52.880 --> 01:03:55.040 But as Corey said, it's true either way. 01:03:55.040 --> 01:03:56.080 I mean both are true. 01:03:56.080 --> 01:03:58.880 That's not an excuse for ignoring John. 01:03:58.880 --> 01:04:03.440 But both pierced and mocked by dancing triumphantly, they're both true. 01:04:03.440 --> 01:04:05.280 But pierced is what John says. 01:04:05.280 --> 01:04:08.080 I think when we're looking at English translation as a point we'll 01:04:08.000 --> 01:04:11.760 reiterate in the bonus episode, I think that we personally, I would 01:04:11.760 --> 01:04:14.720 stick with John's rendering of Zechariah. 01:04:14.720 --> 01:04:17.280 But the reason for highlighting this, this is one of the only 01:04:17.280 --> 01:04:20.160 examples in the entire New Testament where this happens. 01:04:20.400 --> 01:04:22.960 You would think that they would be quoting the Hebrew left and 01:04:22.960 --> 01:04:24.480 right, because they're all Hebrews, right? 01:04:24.480 --> 01:04:26.640 They're all Jews speaking Hebrew, it's all they knew. 01:04:26.640 --> 01:04:29.440 No. They almost exclusively quote Greek. 01:04:29.440 --> 01:04:32.720 So it's important to highlight this counterexample because we have to deal 01:04:32.720 --> 01:04:33.120 with it. 01:04:33.120 --> 01:04:35.200 We can't just pretend it's not there. 01:04:35.200 --> 01:04:36.560 But what do we do with it? 01:04:36.560 --> 01:04:38.400 I think is a very simple answer. 01:04:38.400 --> 01:04:40.320 I think that we respect John. 01:04:40.320 --> 01:04:43.600 I think that we trust that when he says and again another 01:04:43.600 --> 01:04:46.960 scripture says, that that is breathed out by God, and indeed it 01:04:46.960 --> 01:04:49.440 was fulfilled in Christ's crucifixion. 01:04:49.440 --> 01:04:51.040 The Jews did pierce him. 01:04:51.040 --> 01:04:52.560 They did murder him in that way. 01:04:52.560 --> 01:04:54.640 So yeah, that's absolutely correct. 01:04:54.640 --> 01:04:55.600 No argument. 01:04:55.600 --> 01:04:57.760 So it's not a concern at all. 01:04:57.760 --> 01:05:00.960 And part of the reason for highlighting the earlier examples is that 01:05:01.280 --> 01:05:05.040 pointing out these translation committees are already doing this left and right. 01:05:05.040 --> 01:05:07.920 So although many of you listening may not have thought about these 01:05:07.920 --> 01:05:11.280 things before, you can rest assured that the Bible in your house 01:05:11.280 --> 01:05:14.400 today is doing these sorts of things all the time. 01:05:14.400 --> 01:05:20.480 It's choosing a Greek translation over the Rabbinic text because it's more 01:05:20.480 --> 01:05:23.120 Christian. That's not a bad thing. 01:05:23.120 --> 01:05:27.040 It's just the question of when should be concerned that we're being 01:05:27.040 --> 01:05:30.800 o so inconsistent that maybe the text itself is not valid. 01:05:30.800 --> 01:05:33.200 That doesn't mean the Hebrew never existed. 01:05:33.200 --> 01:05:37.280 And this would be a case that however that was being used, 01:05:37.520 --> 01:05:41.280 Corey's speculation where we began recording was it was probably preserved in 01:05:41.280 --> 01:05:44.320 the Aramaic Targums, which is what they would have been teaching from 01:05:44.320 --> 01:05:45.440 in some cases. 01:05:45.440 --> 01:05:47.200 Not the Hebrew, but from Aramaic. 01:05:47.200 --> 01:05:49.120 So yeah, it's fine. 01:05:49.120 --> 01:05:52.160 It is scripture because scripture says it's scripture. 01:05:52.160 --> 01:05:54.000 That's why it's going to be our closing argument. 01:05:54.000 --> 01:05:56.560 So we can't play games here and say, well, we're going to 01:05:56.560 --> 01:05:59.120 ignore that and say what's in the Greek for the New Testament. 01:05:59.120 --> 01:06:01.840 No. It says pierced, so it's pierced. 01:06:01.840 --> 01:06:04.640 It does not then follow that we cancel the rest of the 01:06:04.640 --> 01:06:07.520 Septuagint, quite the opposite. 01:06:07.840 --> 01:06:12.160 And so the last of the examples we'll be using for this 01:06:12.160 --> 01:06:16.240 second section of this episode is from the book of Genesis. 01:06:16.240 --> 01:06:19.120 In the In this case, Genesis 49, verse 10. 01:06:19.120 --> 01:06:22.560 I will again read first from the ESV and then from a 01:06:22.560 --> 01:06:25.680 translation of the Septuagint. 01:06:25.680 --> 01:06:29.440 The scepter shall not depart from Judah, nor the ruler's staff from 01:06:29.440 --> 01:06:33.360 between his feet, until tribute comes to him, and to him shall 01:06:33.360 --> 01:06:36.960 be the obedience of the peoples. 01:06:36.960 --> 01:06:42.400 Then from the Lexim Translation of the Septuagint A ruler will not 01:06:42.400 --> 01:06:46.240 cease from Judah, and one who leads from his thighs, until the 01:06:46.240 --> 01:06:49.840 things laid away for him come, and he is the expectation of 01:06:49.840 --> 01:06:55.200 nations. Now initially I should note that 01:06:56.080 --> 01:07:03.360 Oftentimes, particularly the Lexum, will not necessarily translate into English idiom that 01:07:03.520 --> 01:07:05.520 which is Greek idiom. 01:07:05.520 --> 01:07:09.040 And so leads from his thighs is a Greek idiom that is 01:07:09.040 --> 01:07:11.360 not translated into English idiom here. 01:07:11.360 --> 01:07:15.920 So it sounds a little strange to the English ear, but in 01:07:16.160 --> 01:07:21.360 a future proper English translation, obviously idiom would be translated as well. 01:07:21.360 --> 01:07:25.360 Idiom often does not work across languages, in fact, it is one 01:07:25.360 --> 01:07:29.600 of the things that seldom works across languages, unless they are very 01:07:29.600 --> 01:07:32.480 closely related languages. 01:07:32.480 --> 01:07:37.520 Even when reading German versus reading English, idiom has to be translated 01:07:37.600 --> 01:07:41.200 because there are things that don't work even between those two languages 01:07:41.360 --> 01:07:44.000 which are extremely close together. 01:07:44.000 --> 01:07:48.400 And so for instance, one of the funnier examples from German is 01:07:48.400 --> 01:07:51.520 if you want to say that something doesn't matter to you or 01:07:51.520 --> 01:07:57.840 basically an idiomatic way of saying whatever Esis Mirwurst it's sausage to 01:07:57.840 --> 01:08:01.200 me, which sounds funny because Germans cared very deeply about sausage, but 01:08:01.200 --> 01:08:02.400 it's one way to say that. 01:08:02.400 --> 01:08:05.760 It just doesn't translate into English, because in English, if you said 01:08:05.920 --> 01:08:09.120 it's sausage to me, everyone would look at you like you had 01:08:09.120 --> 01:08:12.640 three heads because it means nothing in English idiom because it's a 01:08:12.640 --> 01:08:13.360 German idiom. 01:08:13.360 --> 01:08:16.640 The same thing here for leads from his thighs. 01:08:16.640 --> 01:08:21.600 It's a saying about his strength and his rulership, his kingship, the 01:08:21.600 --> 01:08:24.720 fact that he is a mighty ruler, a mighty king. 01:08:24.720 --> 01:08:29.920 But you will also notice that there are some language differences here 01:08:29.920 --> 01:08:32.000 beyond just that one. 01:08:32.000 --> 01:08:36.560 You have until tribute comes to him is the translation in the 01:08:36.560 --> 01:08:40.720 ESV, the rendering in the ESV, which is not identical to what 01:08:40.720 --> 01:08:44.000 we have here in the Greek, because in the Greek it is 01:08:44.000 --> 01:08:48.160 says, this time from the Breton, until there come the things stored 01:08:48.160 --> 01:08:49.520 up for him. 01:08:49.520 --> 01:08:53.280 This is a fundamentally different sort of statement. 01:08:53.280 --> 01:08:56.480 If you say that there is something that is stored up, that 01:08:56.480 --> 01:09:01.200 is meant for, that is reserved for a king, for a ruler, 01:09:01.200 --> 01:09:01.920 that's one thing. 01:09:01.920 --> 01:09:06.080 But if you say tribute, that has a very different tenor to 01:09:06.080 --> 01:09:08.960 it. And so the Greek is saying that there are things that 01:09:08.960 --> 01:09:12.720 are stored up, there are things that rightfully belong to Christ, and 01:09:12.720 --> 01:09:16.720 will be given to him at his advent or at his exaltation. 01:09:16.720 --> 01:09:20.000 That's a different thing from claiming simply tribute. 01:09:20.000 --> 01:09:24.800 Tribute is the conquering king crushing enemies and exacting things from them. 01:09:24.800 --> 01:09:28.000 If there are things that are laid away for him, that could 01:09:28.000 --> 01:09:31.360 very well be interpreted as the elect, those who are Those who 01:09:31.360 --> 01:09:35.520 are saved in Christ, a different thing from tribute. 01:09:35.520 --> 01:09:40.000 And you also have the obedience of the peoples versus the expectation 01:09:40.000 --> 01:09:41.040 of the nations. 01:09:41.040 --> 01:09:44.880 This is something that we see very frequently in these changes in 01:09:44.880 --> 01:09:46.640 the Rabbinic text. 01:09:46.640 --> 01:09:51.440 They will weaken the places in which Christ is clearly the hope 01:09:51.440 --> 01:09:53.040 of the nations. 01:09:53.040 --> 01:09:56.560 Christ is clearly meant for all peoples. 01:09:56.560 --> 01:10:00.080 And notably, I'm using peoples not in the way they're using it 01:10:00.080 --> 01:10:04.240 here, because if they had wanted to use peoples in the sense 01:10:04.240 --> 01:10:07.680 of nations, they would have said goi goiem, and they don't say 01:10:07.680 --> 01:10:10.640 that, it is amim, which is a different word. 01:10:10.640 --> 01:10:14.240 Whereas in the Greek, we do indeed have the word that we 01:10:14.240 --> 01:10:17.040 translate as nations, ethnos. 01:10:17.040 --> 01:10:18.560 That is what this means. 01:10:18.560 --> 01:10:22.880 Christ is the hope of all nations, of all races, that is 01:10:22.880 --> 01:10:26.640 weakened in the rendering of the Rabbinic text, and indeed it is 01:10:26.640 --> 01:10:27.920 weakened intentionally. 01:10:27.920 --> 01:10:31.840 This is something that they do again, frequently, when there are differences 01:10:31.840 --> 01:10:35.120 between the rabbinic text and the Septuagint. 01:10:36.880 --> 01:10:40.320 We have yet to do a study on this and we're not 01:10:40.320 --> 01:10:42.240 gonna whatever I do will be personal. 01:10:42.240 --> 01:10:43.920 I'm not gonna publish anything about it. 01:10:43.920 --> 01:10:47.520 But another friend has pointed out what Corey just said in this 01:10:47.520 --> 01:10:54.640 verse is replete in the rabbinic text, that ethnos, meaning nations, 01:10:54.640 --> 01:10:59.600 meaning all of the non-Jewish races on the planet, are expecting the 01:10:59.600 --> 01:11:03.040 Christ. You see that over and over and over and over again 01:11:03.440 --> 01:11:06.720 in these passages in the Septuagint, and they just vanish from the 01:11:06.720 --> 01:11:08.560 rabbinic text. 01:11:08.560 --> 01:11:13.600 Very frequently, ethnos is removed entirely and something else is stuck in 01:11:13.600 --> 01:11:16.800 there, sometimes completely seemingly at random. 01:11:16.800 --> 01:11:19.360 Doesn't have anything to do with nations or people or anything. 01:11:19.360 --> 01:11:21.280 It's just it goes away. 01:11:21.280 --> 01:11:24.400 So you would never know anyone but Jews existed. 01:11:24.400 --> 01:11:29.520 Another reason I wanted to highlight this verse is I actually picked 01:11:29.520 --> 01:11:31.920 two other translations than Corey did for this. 01:11:31.920 --> 01:11:34.400 So I'm going to give you my translations that I happen to 01:11:34.400 --> 01:11:35.280 have notes for. 01:11:35.360 --> 01:11:38.720 The first is the New King James, which is very similar to 01:11:38.720 --> 01:11:41.760 the King James and most of the other English translations for one 01:11:41.840 --> 01:11:45.200 For one word, the scepter shall not depart from Judah nor a 01:11:45.200 --> 01:11:48.480 law giver from between his feet, which is Quarry saying was an 01:11:48.480 --> 01:11:53.920 idiom that gets lost completely, until Shiloh comes, and to hill shall 01:11:53.920 --> 01:11:55.600 be the obedience of the people. 01:11:55.600 --> 01:12:01.040 Now Shiloh is since the King James been considered to be the 01:12:01.040 --> 01:12:06.960 Christological prophecy here, quite directly, and some refer to Shiloh as a 01:12:06.960 --> 01:12:09.280 specific name of Christ. 01:12:09.280 --> 01:12:12.720 Interestingly, when I was looking this up a day or two ago, 01:12:12.720 --> 01:12:16.560 I found a sermon from Spurgeon where he actually refers to the 01:12:16.560 --> 01:12:19.440 Septuagint and disregards that stuff. 01:12:19.680 --> 01:12:23.920 He disregards the rabbinic text for that and says that this is 01:12:23.920 --> 01:12:28.960 actually much more about Christ. 01:12:28.960 --> 01:12:33.040 The other funny part about I had chosen Brenton's verses Corey choosing 01:12:33.040 --> 01:12:35.040 Lexum, Brenton's makes it very clear. 01:12:35.040 --> 01:12:38.080 It says our ruler should not fail from Judah nor a prince 01:12:38.080 --> 01:12:42.480 from his loins, which is quite clearly offspring. 01:12:42.480 --> 01:12:46.000 So the Christological element, if you want to focus on the name 01:12:46.000 --> 01:12:51.440 Shiloh, will have been erased because there's no Shiloh, there's nothing remotely 01:12:51.440 --> 01:12:53.920 like Shiloh in the Septuagint. 01:12:53.920 --> 01:12:58.560 If, on the other hand, you realize that he is the expectation 01:12:58.560 --> 01:13:03.760 of nations is the gospel, isn't it? 01:13:03.760 --> 01:13:08.880 This is a very Christological passage in the Septuagint, but you have 01:13:08.880 --> 01:13:11.120 to let go of the word Shiloh to get there. 01:13:11.120 --> 01:13:15.120 And it's funny Corey's translation that he chose, which is common but 01:13:15.120 --> 01:13:18.640 less common, omits that for another word. 01:13:18.640 --> 01:13:21.920 Some of these things are just translation committees disagreeing. 01:13:21.920 --> 01:13:25.680 Some of them are underlying text, dual bases disagreeing. 01:13:26.160 --> 01:13:31.040 Overwhelmingly what we find is when we prefer I don't mean in 01:13:31.040 --> 01:13:33.760 terms of I like it better, when we say yes, I'm gonna 01:13:33.760 --> 01:13:38.320 use the Septuagint, we find it's not only more Christological, but it's 01:13:38.240 --> 01:13:39.360 more gospel centric. 01:13:39.360 --> 01:13:41.040 It's more focused on God. 01:13:41.040 --> 01:13:43.440 And He is the expectation of nations. 01:13:43.440 --> 01:13:46.640 That's the same voice that you find in the New Testament. 01:13:46.640 --> 01:13:49.520 He is the expectation of nations could be I mean that's like 01:13:49.680 --> 01:13:50.480 you said, that's the gospel. 01:13:51.360 --> 01:13:54.880 That is God speaking to us in the Greek, whether it's old 01:13:54.880 --> 01:13:57.680 or new testament. 01:13:57.840 --> 01:13:58.000 For 01:13:58.000 --> 01:14:01.600 the balance of this episode, we are going to go over cases 01:14:01.600 --> 01:14:03.920 in which the Septuagint has 01:14:04.880 --> 01:14:09.120 More than the Rabbinic text, which is to say the Septuagint has 01:14:09.280 --> 01:14:14.960 better prophecies of the Christ than does the rabbinic text. 01:14:14.960 --> 01:14:18.320 And we will be starting with the book of Zechariah, in this 01:14:18.320 --> 01:14:21.360 case chapter nine, I will again read from the ESV and then 01:14:21.360 --> 01:14:22.960 I will read from the Brenton. 01:14:22.960 --> 01:14:26.560 Sometimes I choose the Brenton over the Lexum because as I've mentioned 01:14:26.560 --> 01:14:31.280 before, the Lexum is meant to be more academic, and so it 01:14:31.280 --> 01:14:34.640 can be a little bit stilted in places in the English, which 01:14:34.640 --> 01:14:37.760 is one of the reasons that we need a new English translation 01:14:37.760 --> 01:14:43.280 of the Septuagint, because the existing translations have deficits in certain ways. 01:14:43.280 --> 01:14:47.520 The Breton is somewhat archaic, the Lexim is a little academic and 01:14:47.520 --> 01:14:48.880 stilted, which isn't bad. 01:14:48.880 --> 01:14:52.640 Sometimes it's good to have that sort of translation, but it's not 01:14:52.640 --> 01:14:54.640 the sort of translation that you want to use every day. 01:14:54.960 --> 01:14:58.320 It's not the sort of translation from which you read in the 01:14:58.320 --> 01:15:00.240 gathered congregation. 01:15:00.240 --> 01:15:04.560 Partly because it's just difficult because stilted language causes men to stumble 01:15:04.560 --> 01:15:05.760 when they read aloud. 01:15:05.760 --> 01:15:08.720 And so that's the reason I'll choose one over the other. 01:15:08.720 --> 01:15:11.120 But anyway, first from the ESV 01:15:12.320 --> 01:15:17.120 Rejoice greatly, O daughter of Zion, shout aloud, O daughter of Jerusalem, 01:15:17.120 --> 01:15:21.280 Behold your king is coming to you, righteous and having salvation is 01:15:21.280 --> 01:15:25.200 he, humble and mounted on a donkey, on a colt, the foal 01:15:25.200 --> 01:15:26.480 of a donkey. 01:15:26.480 --> 01:15:30.960 And then from the Brenton translation of the Septuagint, Rejoice greatly, O 01:15:30.960 --> 01:15:36.080 daughter of Zion, proclaim it aloud, O daughter of Jerusalem, behold the 01:15:36.080 --> 01:15:39.680 king is coming to thee, just and a Savior, he is meek 01:15:39.760 --> 01:15:43.840 and riding on an ass and on a young foal. 01:15:43.840 --> 01:15:46.000 There are a couple of problems here 01:15:46.960 --> 01:15:53.120 because the translation committees have decided to obscure something that is present 01:15:53.600 --> 01:15:57.360 in the Hebrew, that is present in the Rabbinic text. 01:15:57.360 --> 01:16:00.400 This is another case where they have simply gone with the Greek 01:16:00.400 --> 01:16:02.320 instead of the Hebrew. 01:16:02.320 --> 01:16:06.080 The Greek there for and a savior could also be translated as 01:16:06.080 --> 01:16:09.760 saving, so it could be just and saving is he, instead of 01:16:09.760 --> 01:16:12.400 just and a savior, both translations are fine. 01:16:12.400 --> 01:16:17.040 Clearly that's Christological, that sort of goes without saying. 01:16:17.040 --> 01:16:22.000 But the underlying Hebrew is Sadiq Venosha. 01:16:22.000 --> 01:16:24.800 And I won't even ask you to forgive my pronunciation because it's 01:16:24.720 --> 01:16:26.480 Hebrew and I don't care. 01:16:26.880 --> 01:16:32.960 What it says there is righteous and being saved is he. 01:16:32.960 --> 01:16:38.320 There's a pretty fundamental difference between saying that someone is a savior 01:16:38.480 --> 01:16:42.880 or is saving versus being saved. 01:16:42.880 --> 01:16:49.440 The rabbinic text completely destroys this Christological prophecy, and it is simply 01:16:49.440 --> 01:16:53.680 hidden in many modern English translations because they've simply gone with the 01:16:53.680 --> 01:16:58.720 Greek, because the Greek is clearly scripture here, and the rabbinic text 01:16:58.720 --> 01:17:00.560 is something else. 01:17:00.560 --> 01:17:03.280 But you wouldn't notice that if you were just reading, say, the 01:17:03.280 --> 01:17:08.720 ESV, because in the ESV, it doesn't say being saved is he. 01:17:08.960 --> 01:17:13.280 It says righteous and having salvation is he, which sounds very much 01:17:13.280 --> 01:17:16.880 like a Christological prophecy because it is supposed to be, and very 01:17:16.880 --> 01:17:19.120 clearly is in the Greek. 01:17:19.440 --> 01:17:24.880 I found this to be one of the most upsetting translation decisions 01:17:24.880 --> 01:17:29.040 made by really since the King James, ESV Falls King James. 01:17:29.040 --> 01:17:32.080 That having salvation, I've always heard that. 01:17:32.080 --> 01:17:34.720 It just as you would like, oh well, obviously he's a savior, 01:17:34.720 --> 01:17:38.000 he has salvation, he's he's the one bringing salvation with him. 01:17:38.000 --> 01:17:41.920 That's what having salvation means in our heads because we're Christians. 01:17:41.920 --> 01:17:46.240 They were absolutely unfaithful and they were deliberately unfaithful to the text. 01:17:46.240 --> 01:17:48.800 The way Corey phrased that it made it sort of sound like 01:17:48.800 --> 01:17:50.080 they were following the Greek. 01:17:50.080 --> 01:17:52.080 If they'd been following the Greek, they would have called him the 01:17:52.080 --> 01:17:55.120 Savior. They would not have said having salvation. 01:17:55.120 --> 01:17:56.480 Using that tense there 01:17:57.360 --> 01:18:01.280 is covering up for the fact that it says he is just 01:18:01.440 --> 01:18:02.720 and saved. 01:18:02.720 --> 01:18:04.240 He is just and being saved. 01:18:04.240 --> 01:18:08.480 That's what's in the Hebrew versus he is just and saving. 01:18:08.480 --> 01:18:11.840 So you see, sometimes these differences are very, very small. 01:18:11.840 --> 01:18:13.920 What's the difference between saved and saving? 01:18:13.920 --> 01:18:16.240 Well it's a pretty big difference if you're drowning. 01:18:16.240 --> 01:18:20.080 If you're drowning and I say, oh I'm gonna save you or 01:18:20.080 --> 01:18:23.040 I'm gonna be saved, two different things. 01:18:24.080 --> 01:18:28.560 When things are obscured for the sake of just trying to paper 01:18:28.560 --> 01:18:32.080 over differences, again, they were covering for the rabbinic text. 01:18:32.080 --> 01:18:34.800 They should have just bit the bullet and said, Well, if we 01:18:34.800 --> 01:18:38.480 look at the Greek, we obviously have to say he's a savior. 01:18:38.480 --> 01:18:42.160 It boggles my mind that this stuff has gone on for so 01:18:42.160 --> 01:18:45.520 long and everyone has just stared at these passages over and over 01:18:45.520 --> 01:18:48.960 again, and not asked the fundamental question, what are we doing here 01:18:48.960 --> 01:18:50.640 with this rabbinic text? 01:18:50.640 --> 01:18:52.560 It keeps causing all these problems. 01:18:52.560 --> 01:18:54.720 Why are we still relying on it? 01:18:54.720 --> 01:18:57.760 That's why we spent, you know, how seven hours or so in 01:18:57.760 --> 01:19:01.600 the first couple historical episodes to deal with that. 01:19:01.600 --> 01:19:04.000 Because it is a mess, and what do you do with it? 01:19:04.000 --> 01:19:07.760 And what we found was they weren't faithless and they weren't stupid. 01:19:07.760 --> 01:19:11.200 They were just not careful about this. 01:19:11.200 --> 01:19:14.080 They were careful about other things, like they were careful about making 01:19:14.080 --> 01:19:15.920 sure that this is Christological. 01:19:15.920 --> 01:19:17.680 He's righteous and having salvation. 01:19:17.680 --> 01:19:20.240 Okay, we his Jesus on the donkey, we know that now once 01:19:20.240 --> 01:19:21.360 it's fulfilled. 01:19:21.360 --> 01:19:24.480 So obviously this is a Christological prophecy. 01:19:24.480 --> 01:19:29.680 But what the rabbinic text does to it is a demonic inversion, 01:19:29.680 --> 01:19:31.040 saying that Jesus on the donkey 01:19:32.160 --> 01:19:34.320 is the one being saved. 01:19:34.320 --> 01:19:36.480 That is it's wicked. 01:19:36.480 --> 01:19:39.760 And again, we're not suggesting be picky choosy about well, I'm gonna 01:19:39.760 --> 01:19:41.840 pick the Bible as more Christology. 01:19:41.840 --> 01:19:45.280 But when you look at the New Testament, it's very clearly he's 01:19:45.280 --> 01:19:47.760 the Savior and He's not saved. 01:19:47.760 --> 01:19:52.880 You have to then doubt in the sense of veracity, not in 01:19:52.880 --> 01:19:56.480 the sense of uncertainty in your own self, but if the Rabbinic 01:19:56.880 --> 01:20:00.720 text is deleting Savior, do you think maybe that's something that should 01:20:00.720 --> 01:20:02.080 matter to Christians? 01:20:02.080 --> 01:20:03.920 When it happens consistently? 01:20:03.920 --> 01:20:07.680 When the gospel to all the nations is just deleted consistently? 01:20:07.680 --> 01:20:10.160 Do you think at some point maybe we decide, all right, this 01:20:10.160 --> 01:20:10.800 is too much? 01:20:11.360 --> 01:20:15.280 You know, if our podcast episodes, if we had thirty or forty 01:20:15.520 --> 01:20:18.960 major glaring errors in every one, nobody would listen. 01:20:18.960 --> 01:20:22.080 Cause even whatever we got right would be just a crapshoot. 01:20:22.080 --> 01:20:26.320 You know, you can't get stuff wrong and still be taken seriously. 01:20:26.320 --> 01:20:28.880 And that's just for something as trivial as a podcast. 01:20:28.880 --> 01:20:30.400 We're talking about scripture here. 01:20:30.400 --> 01:20:34.000 We're talking about God's word, the basis for our Bibles, the basis 01:20:34.000 --> 01:20:35.120 for our faith. 01:20:35.120 --> 01:20:39.520 Cannot be so riddled with errors the centuries of translation committees have 01:20:39.520 --> 01:20:42.960 to run interference for the rabbinic text just so we can stay 01:20:42.960 --> 01:20:46.160 Christian. And on one hand, I thank God that they did. 01:20:46.160 --> 01:20:49.680 If we had a purely rabbinic text based Bible, I think the 01:20:49.680 --> 01:20:51.040 church would be long gone. 01:20:51.040 --> 01:20:53.040 So God did not permit that. 01:20:53.040 --> 01:20:57.120 Even as he permitted the curse of this rabbinic text to infest 01:20:57.120 --> 01:20:59.360 the church, he still kept it at basic. 01:20:59.360 --> 01:21:02.480 Because over and over Krishnaman, like, yeah, we're not doing that. 01:21:02.480 --> 01:21:05.040 We're gonna we're gonna do it's in the Greek and just pretend 01:21:05.040 --> 01:21:06.080 we didn't. 01:21:06.080 --> 01:21:11.360 That's not a basis for faithfulness and consistency, but at least it's 01:21:11.360 --> 01:21:12.640 kept us on life support. 01:21:13.120 --> 01:21:15.440 But we can do better. 01:21:15.520 --> 01:21:20.480 So the next example comes from the book of Psalms, and it 01:21:20.480 --> 01:21:22.880 is worth mentioning again that 01:21:24.320 --> 01:21:30.480 Psalms Psalms is one of those books where the differences are pervasive. 01:21:30.480 --> 01:21:34.000 This runs throughout basically all of the wisdom literature. 01:21:34.000 --> 01:21:37.280 So this is present in Psalms, it's present in Proverbs, it's present 01:21:37.280 --> 01:21:38.800 in the book of Job. 01:21:38.800 --> 01:21:42.640 We will be getting into that obviously more in the second episode 01:21:42.800 --> 01:21:46.480 in this three-part section of the series dealing with the Old Testament, 01:21:46.480 --> 01:21:51.920 which deals specifically or will deal specifically with the wisdom literature. 01:21:51.920 --> 01:21:55.280 But we're going to draw in one example here to sort of 01:21:55.280 --> 01:21:57.840 give you a foretaste of that. 01:21:57.840 --> 01:22:00.880 This is from Psalm forty verses six through eight. 01:22:00.880 --> 01:22:05.440 Now it's worth noting that the numbering is different in the Septuagint. 01:22:05.440 --> 01:22:09.200 This is one thing where there is a difference between the two 01:22:09.440 --> 01:22:11.520 where you may have to have a little chart. 01:22:11.520 --> 01:22:16.160 It's worth noting, again, for all those who have forgotten or perhaps 01:22:16.160 --> 01:22:19.200 are listening to the episode for the first time out of order, 01:22:19.200 --> 01:22:21.200 and have never heard this before. 01:22:21.200 --> 01:22:25.520 The numbers in scripture with regard to chapters and verses are not 01:22:25.520 --> 01:22:28.880 inspired. They were added by men later so that we could do 01:22:28.880 --> 01:22:32.560 things like tell you I am reading from Psalm 40 right now, 01:22:32.560 --> 01:22:35.680 and you could find it, as opposed to having to page through 01:22:35.680 --> 01:22:40.000 the entirety of the book of the Psalms and attempt to find 01:22:40.000 --> 01:22:42.240 it. So the numbering doesn't matter. 01:22:42.240 --> 01:22:44.720 We could in fact change that with a future version, a future 01:22:44.720 --> 01:22:48.480 translation Septuagint, and that would be completely fine. 01:22:48.480 --> 01:22:52.640 These numbers are simply human conventions for the sake of convenience. 01:22:52.640 --> 01:22:57.040 But so reading first from the ESV again, Psalm forty starting with 01:22:57.040 --> 01:22:59.360 verse six. 01:22:59.360 --> 01:23:03.040 In sacrifice an offering you have not delighted, but you have given 01:23:03.040 --> 01:23:06.560 me an open ear, burnt offering and sin offering you have not 01:23:06.560 --> 01:23:11.200 required. Then I said, Behold, I have come, in the scroll of 01:23:11.200 --> 01:23:12.960 the book it is written of me. 01:23:12.960 --> 01:23:16.240 I delight to do your will, O my God, your law is 01:23:16.240 --> 01:23:18.400 within my heart. 01:23:18.400 --> 01:23:22.560 Now I will read from the Lexum Translation of the Septuagint. 01:23:22.560 --> 01:23:26.560 You did not want sacrifice an offering, but you restored a body 01:23:26.560 --> 01:23:27.200 to me. 01:23:27.200 --> 01:23:31.040 You did not ask for whole burnt offering, and an offering concerning 01:23:31.040 --> 01:23:34.480 sin. Then I said, Look, I have arrived. 01:23:34.480 --> 01:23:38.080 In the scroll of the document it has been written concerning me. 01:23:38.080 --> 01:23:41.200 I wish to do your will, O my God, and your law 01:23:41.200 --> 01:23:43.360 is in the middle of my heart. 01:23:44.000 --> 01:23:47.600 Now some of these differences in wording are simply a matter of 01:23:47.600 --> 01:23:48.960 a difference in idiom. 01:23:48.960 --> 01:23:52.400 So in the middle of my heart versus within my heart, that's 01:23:52.320 --> 01:23:53.600 just an idiomatic difference. 01:23:53.600 --> 01:23:56.000 We could translate the Greek the exact same way we have it 01:23:56.000 --> 01:23:58.880 in the ESV, that would be completely fine. 01:23:58.880 --> 01:23:59.840 But focus for a second 01:24:00.720 --> 01:24:06.880 on that second section there of verse six. 01:24:06.880 --> 01:24:10.720 In the ESV, but you have given me an open ear, in 01:24:10.720 --> 01:24:15.520 the Septuagint, but you restored a body to me. 01:24:15.520 --> 01:24:17.920 These are two very different claims. 01:24:17.920 --> 01:24:23.600 One of these is very clearly again Christological, hence the inclusion in 01:24:23.600 --> 01:24:24.800 this episode. 01:24:24.800 --> 01:24:27.360 The other is not so clearly so. 01:24:27.360 --> 01:24:30.240 This is something that we have in the Septuagint and we lose 01:24:30.240 --> 01:24:32.240 in the rabbinic text. 01:24:32.240 --> 01:24:36.240 There may perhaps be a reason that the rabbis would not want 01:24:36.240 --> 01:24:39.200 to have something like an incarnate God 01:24:40.320 --> 01:24:44.000 might not want to have something about God having a body. 01:24:44.000 --> 01:24:46.800 Well here we have it, but you restored a body to me, 01:24:46.800 --> 01:24:52.400 a Christological prophecy of Christ's incarnation and of his resurrection, that is 01:24:52.400 --> 01:24:52.880 not present 01:24:53.760 --> 01:24:56.800 in the rabbinic text, because the rabbinic text just says an open 01:24:56.800 --> 01:24:58.560 ear. So God's listening. 01:24:58.560 --> 01:25:01.040 We have that all over scripture, of course God is listening, he 01:25:01.040 --> 01:25:03.040 listens to prayer. 01:25:03.040 --> 01:25:09.040 We lose this prophecy if we use the rabbinic text. 01:25:09.040 --> 01:25:09.200 And 01:25:09.440 --> 01:25:13.040 although most of that did not change between the rabbinic and the 01:25:13.040 --> 01:25:18.800 Septuagint, the reason for including six, seven, and 8 is that this 01:25:18.800 --> 01:25:23.360 is quoted directly in Hebrews 10, verses 5 through 7. 01:25:23.360 --> 01:25:26.000 It quotes the Septuagint verbatim. 01:25:26.000 --> 01:25:28.880 And I'm gonna read from Hebrews now, sacrifices and offerings you have 01:25:28.960 --> 01:25:34.080 not desired, but a body have you prepared for me. 01:25:34.240 --> 01:25:37.280 Hebrews makes very clear that this was about Jesus Christ, and it 01:25:37.280 --> 01:25:39.440 specifically refers to his body. 01:25:39.440 --> 01:25:43.760 All the codices of the Septuagint say soma, which is Greek for 01:25:43.760 --> 01:25:48.480 body. This stuff about years being dug, you know, we see that 01:25:48.480 --> 01:25:52.800 stuff, including in your old testaments are mostly going to follow the 01:25:52.800 --> 01:25:54.160 rabbinic text here. 01:25:54.160 --> 01:25:55.440 They're not going to match. 01:25:55.440 --> 01:25:59.680 If you look at your Psalm 40 specifically verse six, it's probably 01:25:59.680 --> 01:26:02.880 not going to say anything about a body because it's actually using 01:26:02.880 --> 01:26:04.400 the rabbinic text there. 01:26:04.400 --> 01:26:07.440 It's corrupt, it's wicked, it is false. 01:26:07.440 --> 01:26:08.640 You've dug an ear. 01:26:08.640 --> 01:26:10.320 And so the idiom is explained away. 01:26:10.560 --> 01:26:14.320 Okay, well it's just you know it's another culture, so it's strange 01:26:14.480 --> 01:26:16.800 and you have to explain it to people. 01:26:16.800 --> 01:26:18.960 Okay, that'd be fine if it were true. 01:26:18.960 --> 01:26:22.080 But when Hebrews 10 validates and says no, a body you have 01:26:22.480 --> 01:26:23.360 prepared for me. 01:26:23.360 --> 01:26:27.360 In Hebrews ten says this is Jesus' body it's being spoken of, 01:26:27.360 --> 01:26:29.200 we can't mess with it. 01:26:29.200 --> 01:26:32.720 So this is a case where not only is the New Testament 01:26:32.720 --> 01:26:38.880 consistent with the Septuagint, but it's very expressly Christological as stated by 01:26:38.880 --> 01:26:40.560 the New Testament. 01:26:40.560 --> 01:26:43.120 So more and more of these examples are going to get worse 01:26:43.120 --> 01:26:46.320 and worse in this way for the rabbinic text. 01:26:46.320 --> 01:26:49.280 And less and less you're going to find your own Bible has 01:26:49.440 --> 01:26:50.720 papered over it. 01:26:50.720 --> 01:26:53.440 It's going to be kind of a crapshoot depending on the translation 01:26:53.440 --> 01:26:55.600 committee for whichever Bible you have. 01:26:55.600 --> 01:26:58.640 But a lot of times they're just going to stick with the 01:26:58.640 --> 01:27:02.080 rabbinic. And then when you find that you look at your old 01:27:02.080 --> 01:27:05.200 testament, your new testament, they don't match at all. 01:27:05.200 --> 01:27:07.920 And we've all just kind of lived with this and not asked 01:27:07.920 --> 01:27:08.880 any questions. 01:27:08.880 --> 01:27:11.760 I think one of the earliest examples that kind of smacked me 01:27:11.760 --> 01:27:15.760 in the face without me realizing what was happening, was the passage 01:27:15.760 --> 01:27:17.760 about the Star of Remphan. 01:27:17.760 --> 01:27:21.920 In Acts in Stephen's, I think it's in Acts seven, roughly, Stephen 01:27:21.920 --> 01:27:26.400 is giving his sermon about the Jews murdering Christ right before they 01:27:26.400 --> 01:27:28.320 murder him for saying that. 01:27:28.320 --> 01:27:31.440 And one of the things he says is your star of Remphan, 01:27:31.440 --> 01:27:35.120 and he talks about Moloch, calls them Remphan and Moloch worshippers, and 01:27:35.120 --> 01:27:38.160 says that their god has a star. 01:27:38.160 --> 01:27:41.200 And that's quoting Amos, I believe Amos five. 01:27:41.200 --> 01:27:45.280 When you look at Amos, it doesn't say Rempan, it doesn't say 01:27:45.280 --> 01:27:46.800 Moloch, it says other things. 01:27:46.800 --> 01:27:50.880 It's like Tikun or something, weird weird words that only appear once 01:27:50.880 --> 01:27:51.760 in scripture. 01:27:51.760 --> 01:27:56.960 They don't match because Stephen, the martyr, was quoting the Septuagint against 01:27:56.960 --> 01:27:59.280 the Jews who understood Greek. 01:27:59.280 --> 01:28:02.160 So I looked at that and oh well that's interesting, and I 01:28:02.160 --> 01:28:05.520 guess this is a difference in the Septuagint, and it didn't register. 01:28:05.520 --> 01:28:08.080 I looked right at it and I saw nothing at all. 01:28:08.080 --> 01:28:09.920 Because why would I ever question this? 01:28:09.920 --> 01:28:14.240 We've spent our entire lives being conditioned never to question why the 01:28:14.240 --> 01:28:17.440 old and new testaments don't match when they quote each other. 01:28:17.440 --> 01:28:18.720 This is why. 01:28:18.720 --> 01:28:21.600 And so the reason for closing with these is that when you 01:28:21.600 --> 01:28:25.840 start quoting the old testament from Greek as it does in the 01:28:25.840 --> 01:28:28.640 New Testament, you're using the Septuagint. 01:28:28.640 --> 01:28:30.640 It's circular, but it's true. 01:28:30.640 --> 01:28:33.120 That's why our closing argument is it's the Bible of Jesus and 01:28:33.120 --> 01:28:34.000 the Apostles. 01:28:34.000 --> 01:28:37.920 The New Testament quotes almost exclusively scripture of the 01:28:37.920 --> 01:28:42.800 Greek. The next example is another one of those. 01:28:42.800 --> 01:28:45.440 I won't bury the lead, I guess, this time, is another one 01:28:45.440 --> 01:28:50.560 of those examples in which the rabbinic text has very clearly removed 01:28:50.800 --> 01:28:55.520 something that is a prophecy concerning the Christ being a blessing for 01:28:55.520 --> 01:28:57.360 all nations. 01:28:57.680 --> 01:29:01.520 And so now you have an idea of where we're going with 01:29:01.520 --> 01:29:02.080 this reading. 01:29:02.080 --> 01:29:05.840 And so listen carefully as I go through Amos 9, 11 through 01:29:06.000 --> 01:29:11.360 12, and you'll catch where there's a difference in the rabbinic text, 01:29:11.360 --> 01:29:14.400 verses what is actually present in the Greek text, and so again 01:29:14.400 --> 01:29:17.040 first from the ESV. 01:29:17.040 --> 01:29:20.320 In that day I will raise up the booth of David that 01:29:20.320 --> 01:29:24.560 is fallen, and repair its breaches, and raise up its ruins, and 01:29:24.560 --> 01:29:28.000 rebuild it as in the days of old, that they may possess 01:29:28.000 --> 01:29:31.520 the remnant of Edom, and all the nations who are called by 01:29:31.520 --> 01:29:35.360 my name, declares the Lord who does this. 01:29:35.360 --> 01:29:37.200 And now from the Septuagint. 01:29:37.520 --> 01:29:40.560 On that day I will raise up the tent of David that 01:29:40.560 --> 01:29:44.240 has fallen, and I will rebuild its things that have fallen, and 01:29:44.240 --> 01:29:47.360 I will raise up its things that have been destroyed, and I 01:29:47.360 --> 01:29:50.880 will rebuild it just as the days of eternity, so that the 01:29:50.880 --> 01:29:54.480 remnant of the people, and all the nations upon whom my name 01:29:54.480 --> 01:29:57.760 was invoked upon them will search for me, says the Lord who 01:29:57.760 --> 01:30:00.000 is making these things. 01:30:00.000 --> 01:30:02.800 Edom is not there, in the Greek. 01:30:03.600 --> 01:30:08.480 You see this ancient feud that the Jews have with Edom brought 01:30:08.480 --> 01:30:14.320 into the Rabbinic text, and it removes part of the prophecy that 01:30:14.320 --> 01:30:18.640 is very clearly about the Christ being a blessing coming for the 01:30:18.640 --> 01:30:22.320 nations, the remnant of the people. 01:30:22.320 --> 01:30:26.000 It's not a remnant of Edom that these people are going to 01:30:26.000 --> 01:30:29.840 possess, that they're going to destroy're ancient enemies, that's not what the 01:30:29.840 --> 01:30:31.120 prophecy is. 01:30:31.120 --> 01:30:35.120 The prophecy is about the Christ coming and taking from every tribe, 01:30:35.120 --> 01:30:39.920 language, and nation people for himself, and all the nations upon whom 01:30:39.920 --> 01:30:42.240 my name was invoked. 01:30:42.240 --> 01:30:47.040 This is another case in which the rabbis have changed something that 01:30:47.040 --> 01:30:51.200 is meant for all peoples, that is a blessing for all the 01:30:51.200 --> 01:30:55.600 races of men, and attempted to change it into something that applies 01:30:55.600 --> 01:30:57.600 only to the to the Jews. 01:30:57.600 --> 01:31:01.280 Because again this is something that they do frequently with regard to 01:31:01.280 --> 01:31:03.680 these prophecies in the Old Testament. 01:31:03.680 --> 01:31:06.320 This is one of the common threads you can find where they 01:31:06.320 --> 01:31:09.040 have changed things in their rabbinic text. 01:31:09.040 --> 01:31:11.280 It is simply not there in the Greek. 01:31:11.280 --> 01:31:13.920 The Greek is a very clear prophecy. 01:31:13.920 --> 01:31:17.920 The rabbinic text is something else, because it was changed with a 01:31:17.920 --> 01:31:19.360 purpose in mind. 01:31:19.360 --> 01:31:23.680 There's malice behind some of these changes, and in particular, this change 01:31:23.920 --> 01:31:27.440 and this sort of change is a malicious change. 01:31:27.440 --> 01:31:30.480 This is a subversion of scripture. 01:31:30.480 --> 01:31:35.920 And we have Christians who will look at this and see no 01:31:35.920 --> 01:31:39.760 problem? These materials have been available for centuries. 01:31:39.760 --> 01:31:42.960 Any Christian could have gone and looked at this and figured out 01:31:43.200 --> 01:31:46.240 there's a problem with this thing the rabbis are telling us is 01:31:46.320 --> 01:31:51.680 scripture. Because it keeps trying all of these prophecies of a particular 01:31:51.680 --> 01:31:54.400 character in a particular way. 01:31:54.560 --> 01:31:58.560 That is not coincidence, that is not accident, that is deliberate action 01:31:58.560 --> 01:31:59.600 of the enemy 01:32:01.200 --> 01:32:01.520 And 01:32:01.520 --> 01:32:04.400 one of the easiest places that any Christian might have found this 01:32:04.560 --> 01:32:06.080 would be in Acts 15. 01:32:06.080 --> 01:32:11.200 Verses 16 and 17 directly quote Amos 9, 11, and 12, and 01:32:11.200 --> 01:32:14.160 they explicitly quote the Septuagint. 01:32:14.480 --> 01:32:18.560 Because the purpose of the passage in Acts 15 is the gospel 01:32:18.560 --> 01:32:20.000 to the nations. 01:32:20.000 --> 01:32:24.080 It's the gospel to every non-Jew, which is Corey said is precisely 01:32:24.080 --> 01:32:25.600 what was deleted from this. 01:32:25.600 --> 01:32:28.240 I'm going to read again from the ESV just the last portion 01:32:28.240 --> 01:32:32.640 of that, as is derived from the rabbinic text, that they may 01:32:32.640 --> 01:32:36.800 possess the remnant of Edom and all the nations who are called 01:32:36.800 --> 01:32:38.720 by my name. 01:32:38.720 --> 01:32:41.040 So who's the main character there? 01:32:41.040 --> 01:32:45.680 It's obviously the Jews that they can possess Edom. 01:32:45.680 --> 01:32:48.080 They're doing the stuff and the nations who are called by my 01:32:48.080 --> 01:32:51.040 name, the way it's rendered in the rabbinic text, it makes it 01:32:51.040 --> 01:32:54.400 sound like the Jews are gonna have everybody's territory. 01:32:54.400 --> 01:32:58.720 That's the way Amos 9 reads, unless you look at the Septuagint, 01:32:58.720 --> 01:33:00.720 where it's makes very clear. 01:33:00.720 --> 01:33:04.080 God says in the Greek, just as he says in Acts fifteen 01:33:04.160 --> 01:33:07.600 again in Greek, that the remnant of men and all the nations 01:33:07.600 --> 01:33:11.840 upon whom my name is called may earnestly seek me. 01:33:11.840 --> 01:33:12.960 It's fundamentally different. 01:33:12.960 --> 01:33:13.840 It's the gospel. 01:33:13.840 --> 01:33:16.160 Once again, it's the gospel to the nations. 01:33:16.160 --> 01:33:17.520 It's about us. 01:33:17.520 --> 01:33:19.840 It's not about to the Jews. 01:33:19.840 --> 01:33:24.400 So many of the perversions of the rabbinic text are specifically about 01:33:24.400 --> 01:33:26.880 this. This is not a small matter. 01:33:26.880 --> 01:33:30.880 And the reason that Acts fifteen disagrees with your Bible in Amos 01:33:31.040 --> 01:33:34.240 is that your Bible in Amos is not the Bible. 01:33:34.240 --> 01:33:38.400 That portion has been corrupted by Christ killers. 01:33:38.400 --> 01:33:39.600 It's evil. 01:33:39.600 --> 01:33:41.040 There's no other way around it. 01:33:41.040 --> 01:33:42.800 That's the reason that there's a mismatch. 01:33:42.800 --> 01:33:46.240 It's not simply oh they're textual differences and you know you got 01:33:46.400 --> 01:33:49.360 scrolls and passage of time and yeah, who knows? 01:33:49.360 --> 01:33:53.600 No, they deleted the gospel, they made the Jews the central characters, 01:33:53.600 --> 01:33:55.440 they made God the bad guy. 01:33:55.440 --> 01:33:56.880 It's wicked stuff. 01:33:56.880 --> 01:33:58.720 And like we're not cherry picking here. 01:33:58.720 --> 01:34:00.880 This we've not even scratched the surface. 01:34:00.880 --> 01:34:04.880 And we're not gonna bother going much further because there's another century 01:34:04.880 --> 01:34:09.600 or more of Christian theology, Christian research needs to be done into 01:34:09.600 --> 01:34:13.760 this stuff to rediscover all the places where we've lost sight of 01:34:13.760 --> 01:34:18.240 Scripture. It's why we keep talking about King Josiah. 01:34:18.240 --> 01:34:22.880 The Bible was literally lost by the By these people, incidentally, they 01:34:23.040 --> 01:34:25.440 lost it and they forgot that he even had it. 01:34:25.440 --> 01:34:29.600 We've done much the same, except it was never misplaced, except from 01:34:29.600 --> 01:34:30.480 our hearts. 01:34:30.480 --> 01:34:34.240 The Greek has always existed, in fact the Eastern Orthodox never got 01:34:34.240 --> 01:34:37.040 rid of it, but they turned out even worse because they stopped 01:34:37.040 --> 01:34:38.240 believing it. 01:34:38.240 --> 01:34:43.440 So I've had people being stupid on social media saying, Oh well 01:34:43.520 --> 01:34:45.520 the the EO have it, so why don't you just put me 01:34:45.600 --> 01:34:46.800 Eastern Orthodox? 01:34:46.800 --> 01:34:49.280 Did you not listen to our episode about them? 01:34:49.280 --> 01:34:53.200 The great The Greek does not preserve your faith if you don't 01:34:53.120 --> 01:34:54.160 believe it. 01:34:54.160 --> 01:34:56.320 The point of this is to believe God. 01:34:56.320 --> 01:34:58.160 So I'm not telling anybody to go learn Greek. 01:34:58.160 --> 01:34:59.840 We just need an English translation. 01:34:59.840 --> 01:35:03.280 All I want is an English translation that has this stuff because 01:35:03.280 --> 01:35:07.280 it's God's word and the New Testament attests to that fact. 01:35:08.240 --> 01:35:12.080 The next example is in the same vein, but this one is 01:35:12.720 --> 01:35:16.560 just about as bold as you can possibly get with regard to 01:35:16.560 --> 01:35:19.280 the edit in the rabbinic text. 01:35:19.280 --> 01:35:22.000 And so just to switch it up this time, I'm actually going 01:35:22.000 --> 01:35:26.640 to read first from the Septuagint, and then I will read from 01:35:26.640 --> 01:35:30.000 the ESV, the translation of the Rabbinic Text 01:35:31.680 --> 01:35:36.000 Delight O heavens with him, and worship him you sons of God, 01:35:36.000 --> 01:35:39.680 delight O nations with his people, and prevail with him all you 01:35:39.680 --> 01:35:43.520 angels of God, for he will avenge the blood of his sons, 01:35:43.520 --> 01:35:47.280 and he will avenge, and he will repay the enemies with vengeance, 01:35:47.280 --> 01:35:50.640 and he will repay those who hate, and the Lord will cleanse 01:35:50.640 --> 01:35:53.120 out the land of his people. 01:35:53.120 --> 01:35:57.840 This is Deuteronomy thirty two forty three and now from the ESV. 01:35:57.840 --> 01:36:01.920 Rejoice with him, O heavens, bow down to him all gods, for 01:36:01.920 --> 01:36:05.280 he avenges the blood of his children, and takes vengeance on his 01:36:05.360 --> 01:36:12.480 adversaries. He repays those who hate him, and cleanses his people's land. 01:36:12.480 --> 01:36:16.080 You may have noticed that the reading from the ESV was shorter. 01:36:16.080 --> 01:36:19.760 Well that's because they simply deleted two lines. 01:36:19.760 --> 01:36:23.840 Delight, O nations, with his people, and prevail with him all you 01:36:23.840 --> 01:36:25.920 angels of God. 01:36:25.920 --> 01:36:28.160 Same vain as some of the other changes. 01:36:28.160 --> 01:36:30.640 They simply deleted this time 01:36:31.520 --> 01:36:35.680 a prophecy concerning the fact that the Christ is the Savior of 01:36:35.680 --> 01:36:38.720 all nations. 01:36:38.720 --> 01:36:41.280 As opposed to changing it, which they've done in a few other 01:36:41.280 --> 01:36:45.120 places, many other places we could go through many other examples, here 01:36:45.120 --> 01:36:48.560 they were so bold simply to delete some of the words of 01:36:48.560 --> 01:36:53.760 God. Think about that curse from Revelation that Woe cited in the 01:36:53.760 --> 01:36:55.920 beginning of this episode. 01:36:55.920 --> 01:36:58.000 That applies to the people who did this. 01:36:58.000 --> 01:37:01.280 That applies to those who decided they would just remove this part 01:37:01.440 --> 01:37:04.480 that says that the Christ is not just for the Jews. 01:37:04.480 --> 01:37:06.640 The Christ is for all peoples. 01:37:06.640 --> 01:37:09.360 Think of the sort of wickedness that you have to have in 01:37:09.360 --> 01:37:10.560 your heart. 01:37:10.560 --> 01:37:15.280 To start deleting promises from Scripture because you don't like the fact 01:37:15.280 --> 01:37:19.040 that you aren't the only one included in them. 01:37:19.040 --> 01:37:22.880 That is the sort of people with whom we are dealing when 01:37:22.880 --> 01:37:27.760 we use the rabbinic text instead instead of the church text, instead 01:37:27.760 --> 01:37:31.440 of the text of Christ and the Apostles, instead of the Septuagint, 01:37:31.440 --> 01:37:33.200 instead of the Greek. 01:37:33.200 --> 01:37:38.160 You have this promise, this great gospel promise present in the Septuagint, 01:37:38.160 --> 01:37:43.520 and it is simply deleted by the rabbis from their text. 01:37:44.640 --> 01:37:44.800 Or 01:37:45.120 --> 01:37:47.440 he quoted the Lexum there. 01:37:47.440 --> 01:37:51.600 I'm going to quote Brenton's because it's more consistent. 01:37:51.600 --> 01:37:55.040 It says, Rejoice ye heavens with him, and let all the angels 01:37:55.040 --> 01:37:57.040 of God worship him. 01:37:57.040 --> 01:37:59.840 The reason that I can say that this is better is that 01:37:59.840 --> 01:38:02.480 this is quoted in the first chapter of Hebrews. 01:38:02.480 --> 01:38:05.840 Again, the book titled Hebrews, written to the Hebrews, all it does 01:38:05.840 --> 01:38:07.280 is quote the Greek. 01:38:07.280 --> 01:38:09.520 Maybe think about why that is. 01:38:09.520 --> 01:38:12.800 And here's what it says in the beginning of Hebrews. 01:38:12.800 --> 01:38:15.840 The author, whomever he was, when I'm going to pick that fight, 01:38:15.840 --> 01:38:19.840 Hebrews says for to which of the angels did God ever say? 01:38:19.840 --> 01:38:24.160 And then skipping down, let all the angels worship him. 01:38:24.160 --> 01:38:28.720 That's a direct quote of Deuteronomy thirty two forty three, quoted in 01:38:28.720 --> 01:38:32.720 Hebrews 1 about Jesus Christ. 01:38:32.720 --> 01:38:35.600 So I'm going to read from the King James what it does 01:38:35.600 --> 01:38:36.640 to that first line. 01:38:36.640 --> 01:38:38.480 Rejoice, O ye nations. 01:38:38.480 --> 01:38:40.160 It doesn't say heavens. 01:38:40.160 --> 01:38:41.920 The Bible says heavens. 01:38:41.920 --> 01:38:46.400 The King James quoting the rabbinic text says rejoice, O ye nations, 01:38:46.400 --> 01:38:47.680 completely inverts it. 01:38:47.680 --> 01:38:50.880 It moves it from heaven to earth. 01:38:50.880 --> 01:38:52.000 That's false. 01:38:52.000 --> 01:38:53.920 That's not what it says. 01:38:53.920 --> 01:38:56.240 And the reason that you have to have heavens there is that 01:38:56.240 --> 01:38:58.080 the next thing it says, and let all the angels of God 01:38:58.080 --> 01:38:58.800 worship him. 01:38:58.800 --> 01:39:02.800 It's very clearly in heaven about Jesus, as Hebrews says. 01:39:02.800 --> 01:39:06.880 So we're given some spoilers for the New Testament closing argument here, 01:39:06.880 --> 01:39:08.000 but come on. 01:39:08.000 --> 01:39:10.720 This is what we're dealing with, and the reason that I pulled 01:39:10.720 --> 01:39:14.320 these forward and we're dealing with this in the Christological episode is 01:39:14.320 --> 01:39:15.680 it's so important. 01:39:15.680 --> 01:39:19.920 Look at how many of these passages about Jesus Christ, who was 01:39:19.920 --> 01:39:25.360 the promised Christ, the promised anointed one for these Jews? 01:39:25.360 --> 01:39:29.520 When he came they destroyed the scripture to pretend it didn't happen, 01:39:29.520 --> 01:39:32.720 and then passed it off to us, and then we adopted it. 01:39:32.720 --> 01:39:34.000 This is layers of evil 01:39:35.200 --> 01:39:38.160 in the very New Testament that we all agree on. 01:39:38.160 --> 01:39:39.680 That's why it's our closing army. 01:39:39.680 --> 01:39:41.440 You don't need to accept anything we say. 01:39:41.440 --> 01:39:44.720 All you have to do is believe the New Testament, and you 01:39:44.720 --> 01:39:46.560 already have the Septuagint. 01:39:46.560 --> 01:39:47.840 There's your spoiler. 01:39:47.840 --> 01:39:51.440 You cannot possibly be a Christian and reject the Septuagint because you 01:39:51.440 --> 01:39:53.440 lose the New Testament if you do it. 01:39:53.440 --> 01:39:56.160 And when you look at the places where the New Testament quotes 01:39:56.160 --> 01:39:59.840 the old, where it quotes the Septuagint, it's over and over again 01:40:00.080 --> 01:40:02.480 about Jesus, it's about the gospel. 01:40:02.480 --> 01:40:06.880 It's about the gospel being spread to every race on the planet, 01:40:06.880 --> 01:40:08.080 not just the Jews. 01:40:08.080 --> 01:40:11.360 Those are the three things that are deleted over and over again 01:40:11.360 --> 01:40:13.200 from the rabbinic text. 01:40:13.200 --> 01:40:15.040 You know why that is. 01:40:15.040 --> 01:40:15.920 Just one last thing. 01:40:16.480 --> 01:40:19.600 Again, and if you look at Bible Hub, look at this passage, 01:40:19.600 --> 01:40:23.840 and even when you look at you know relative recent translations like 01:40:23.840 --> 01:40:26.960 ESV, it simply ignores the rabbinic text. 01:40:26.960 --> 01:40:29.680 And then it adds bow down to him all gods. 01:40:29.680 --> 01:40:34.720 So they ignore what their own textual basis says, but they have 01:40:34.720 --> 01:40:38.160 this confusing stuff about all gods, like no, his angels. 01:40:38.160 --> 01:40:41.520 It's very clearly what the Septuagint says. 01:40:41.520 --> 01:40:46.720 So this is so often we find that these translation committees they're 01:40:46.720 --> 01:40:51.440 very clearly caught in a brutal cognitive dissonance, where they know that 01:40:51.440 --> 01:40:52.720 they're liars. 01:40:52.720 --> 01:40:56.400 They know that basing any of their work on the rabbinic text 01:40:56.400 --> 01:40:58.640 is wicked, and so they try to paper it over. 01:40:58.640 --> 01:41:01.520 They avoid some of the lies, but they still have to slip 01:41:01.520 --> 01:41:03.200 some stuff in, even if it's random. 01:41:03.200 --> 01:41:04.000 What's the stuff? 01:41:03.920 --> 01:41:05.840 bowed down to him, all gods. 01:41:05.840 --> 01:41:09.520 No. Let all God's angels worship him. 01:41:09.520 --> 01:41:13.280 That's what Hebrews says, because it's what the Septuagint says. 01:41:13.280 --> 01:41:17.680 These men knew better, and yet their very contact with the Hebrew, 01:41:17.520 --> 01:41:21.680 with this wicked rabbinic text, caused them to become liars in the 01:41:21.680 --> 01:41:22.960 Bible in your house. 01:41:22.960 --> 01:41:24.880 And that's why we keep pointing the New Testament. 01:41:24.880 --> 01:41:29.520 The New Testament preserves us from this malicious change by simply showing 01:41:29.520 --> 01:41:31.840 us that we do have the Old Testament. 01:41:31.840 --> 01:41:33.040 We have it intact. 01:41:33.040 --> 01:41:34.880 We don't need to dig it out of the rubble. 01:41:34.880 --> 01:41:36.000 We just need to believe it. 01:41:36.080 --> 01:41:38.240 Yeah, we need to translate it because it's in Greek. 01:41:39.520 --> 01:41:43.440 There's almost an additional level of irony here as between the ESV 01:41:43.600 --> 01:41:49.200 And the King James, because they essentially choose different chunks of the 01:41:49.200 --> 01:41:53.440 Greek to borrow, and then don't really translate them well in the 01:41:53.440 --> 01:41:56.080 case of the ESV for that second line, all gods. 01:41:56.080 --> 01:41:59.280 Yes, of course, you could draw out the argument saying that well 01:41:59.520 --> 01:42:02.640 the sons of God are the angels and the angels can be 01:42:02.640 --> 01:42:06.800 called gods and no, just translate what it actually says. 01:42:06.800 --> 01:42:10.480 Whereas the King James goes ahead and says, Okay, fine, we'll take 01:42:10.720 --> 01:42:16.480 rejoice, O ye nations, which of course is rejoice ye nations, which 01:42:16.480 --> 01:42:20.640 is part that is removed from the rabbinic text, but then it 01:42:20.640 --> 01:42:21.760 doesn't include the rest of it. 01:42:22.240 --> 01:42:26.480 Each one of them has four lines when there are more than 01:42:26.480 --> 01:42:28.800 that in the original. 01:42:28.800 --> 01:42:32.560 They just don't take the fullness of what we actually have in 01:42:32.560 --> 01:42:35.600 the text, depending on how they break it up, the ESV breaks 01:42:35.600 --> 01:42:39.360 it up into six when they're eight in the Greek. 01:42:39.360 --> 01:42:42.480 All they had to do was translate faithfully what they already had 01:42:42.560 --> 01:42:46.640 and what they were clearly looking at, and trying to figure out 01:42:46.640 --> 01:42:48.560 how to harmonize this? 01:42:48.560 --> 01:42:50.000 You don't have to harmonize it. 01:42:50.000 --> 01:42:51.280 We have God's Word. 01:42:51.280 --> 01:42:52.800 It's quoted in the New Testament. 01:42:52.800 --> 01:42:54.000 It's right there. 01:42:54.000 --> 01:42:57.280 All that is required of us is to translate it. 01:42:57.280 --> 01:43:01.120 And as we pointed out many times before, we're dealing with Greek. 01:43:01.520 --> 01:43:06.320 We're not dealing with some unknown language that's difficult to translate, that 01:43:06.320 --> 01:43:07.600 no one knows what it's mean. 01:43:07.600 --> 01:43:09.280 We're dealing with Greek. 01:43:09.280 --> 01:43:14.240 There are many tens of thousands of men who can read Greek 01:43:14.240 --> 01:43:17.600 at a perfectly proficient level and English as well? 01:43:17.600 --> 01:43:21.840 This is not a difficult task, this is not esoteric, it's right 01:43:21.840 --> 01:43:28.000 there. Many of those listening to the podcast right now could painstakingly, 01:43:28.000 --> 01:43:34.240 admittedly, but could painstakingly translate from the Greek using modern tools. 01:43:34.240 --> 01:43:37.840 I'm looking at Logos right now as we're going through these verses, 01:43:37.840 --> 01:43:40.800 as we're recording this episode, because it's easy to look at different 01:43:40.800 --> 01:43:42.800 versions side by side. 01:43:42.800 --> 01:43:46.160 I can look at Hebrew and click on words and know what 01:43:46.160 --> 01:43:46.880 they mean. 01:43:46.880 --> 01:43:50.320 Granted that's with the caveat of what we went over in previous 01:43:50.320 --> 01:43:53.760 episodes, but doing that with the Greek is trivial. 01:43:53.760 --> 01:43:55.600 This is not a difficult task. 01:43:55.600 --> 01:43:59.920 All we have to believe is that Christ and the apostles knew 01:43:59.920 --> 01:44:04.320 what they were doing when they quoted the Greek, when they gave 01:44:04.320 --> 01:44:09.200 the Greek their stamp of approval, not the Hebrew, not some special 01:44:09.200 --> 01:44:13.360 text that only the rabbis had, that was preserved with oral tradition, 01:44:13.360 --> 01:44:15.840 no the Greek, the Septuagint. 01:44:15.840 --> 01:44:21.120 The Greek is the Bible the scripture of the church because it 01:44:21.120 --> 01:44:24.000 was the scripture of the apostles and of Christ? 01:44:24.000 --> 01:44:28.560 All we have to do is be faithful to that. 01:44:28.560 --> 01:44:32.240 And so as I mentioned earlier, we will be turning again to 01:44:32.240 --> 01:44:35.760 Isaiah because a number of these examples today are from the book 01:44:35.760 --> 01:44:36.960 of Isaiah. 01:44:36.960 --> 01:44:41.360 And so returning to chapter fifty three, this time verse eight, reading 01:44:41.360 --> 01:44:42.960 first from the ESV. 01:44:42.960 --> 01:44:46.720 By By oppression and judgment he was taken away, and as for 01:44:46.720 --> 01:44:50.080 his generation who considered, that he was cut off out of the 01:44:50.080 --> 01:44:55.120 land of the living, stricken for the transgression of my people. 01:44:55.120 --> 01:45:00.160 And then second from the Brenton In his humiliation his judgment was 01:45:00.160 --> 01:45:03.280 taken away who shall declare his generation? 01:45:03.280 --> 01:45:06.320 For his life is taken away from the earth because of the 01:45:06.320 --> 01:45:09.280 iniquities of my people he was led to death 01:45:10.480 --> 01:45:14.480 So there are a couple interesting things happening with this passage. 01:45:14.480 --> 01:45:19.440 First, the rabbinic text ends with stricken for the transgression of my 01:45:19.440 --> 01:45:22.000 people. And transgression means sin. 01:45:22.000 --> 01:45:23.120 So that's fine. 01:45:23.120 --> 01:45:27.520 Stricken, okay, yeah, he was stricken, but what is missing when you 01:45:27.520 --> 01:45:29.600 don't have the Septuagint? 01:45:29.600 --> 01:45:34.080 Because of the iniquities of my people he was led to death. 01:45:34.080 --> 01:45:36.320 It's a very explicit prophecy. 01:45:36.320 --> 01:45:38.880 'Cause you can be stricken, smitten and afflicted. 01:45:38.880 --> 01:45:41.600 That's a phrase that we all know, it's a song. 01:45:41.600 --> 01:45:43.920 But stricken doesn't mean killed. 01:45:43.920 --> 01:45:49.040 Yeah, we talked about stripes and bruises and whatnot earlier when the 01:45:49.040 --> 01:45:52.320 Septuagint says because of the sins of my people he was led 01:45:52.320 --> 01:45:56.160 to death Well, that's the gospel, isn't it? 01:45:56.160 --> 01:46:00.960 So it's a small change, but it's also a huge change. 01:46:00.960 --> 01:46:03.280 To lose he was led to death. 01:46:03.280 --> 01:46:06.240 It's the denial of Christ, quite simply. 01:46:06.240 --> 01:46:09.600 And again, this is Isaiah 53, this is Isaiah. 01:46:09.600 --> 01:46:13.840 This is not some small potatoes minor prophet. 01:46:13.840 --> 01:46:17.840 They're messing with the very core of scripture here. 01:46:17.840 --> 01:46:21.600 And yet again, this is a passage where you know how you 01:46:21.600 --> 01:46:23.200 can believe the Septuagint? 01:46:23.200 --> 01:46:24.240 You already do. 01:46:24.240 --> 01:46:27.840 Because Acts 8, when you look at the discussion between Philip and 01:46:27.840 --> 01:46:31.840 the Ethiopian eunuch, he was reading precisely this passage. 01:46:31.840 --> 01:46:34.880 This is what the eunuch was reading right as he talked to 01:46:34.880 --> 01:46:37.200 Philip and said, Hey, what about this stuff? 01:46:37.200 --> 01:46:38.080 Who is this about? 01:46:38.080 --> 01:46:39.760 Tell me who it is. 01:46:39.760 --> 01:46:45.040 Well Well, Acts 8 omits the very last portion about death, as 01:46:45.040 --> 01:46:48.800 everything else, and it's a verbatim quote from the Septuagint. 01:46:48.800 --> 01:46:52.640 So once again, what are we dealing with? 01:46:52.640 --> 01:46:55.600 Jesus and the apostles use the Greek. 01:46:55.600 --> 01:46:57.200 We should use the Greek. 01:46:57.200 --> 01:47:01.600 If you believe Acts eight, you reject the rabbinic text. 01:47:01.600 --> 01:47:05.440 And in so we're doing, it turns out you have more Christ. 01:47:05.440 --> 01:47:08.640 Coincidentally, not that that's a goal, but when that's how it turns 01:47:08.640 --> 01:47:10.880 out it should come as no surprise. 01:47:10.880 --> 01:47:14.160 Because of the sins of my people he was led to death. 01:47:14.160 --> 01:47:17.200 When the Ethiopian eunuch asked Philip, Who's this about? 01:47:17.360 --> 01:47:19.280 he heard about Jesus Christ. 01:47:19.280 --> 01:47:20.240 The gospel 01:47:21.760 --> 01:47:25.360 And I am going to renew my recommendation from earlier in the 01:47:25.360 --> 01:47:28.400 episode that you go and read the entirety of chapter fifty three 01:47:28.400 --> 01:47:32.080 of Isaiah in both whatever version you have on hand and the 01:47:32.080 --> 01:47:34.880 Septuagint, but you do not have to go out and buy. 01:47:34.880 --> 01:47:40.960 You can find English translations on many different websites for free. 01:47:40.960 --> 01:47:44.640 But if you proceed on to verse 9, you will note a 01:47:44.640 --> 01:47:49.280 couple of changes with regard to the diction here, and I want 01:47:49.280 --> 01:47:52.480 to highlight just one before we move on to the next example, 01:47:52.480 --> 01:47:56.720 which is incidentally also from Isaiah. 01:47:56.720 --> 01:48:01.440 In the ESV, it says although he had done no violence, and 01:48:01.440 --> 01:48:04.480 that is typically the way that it is translated. 01:48:04.480 --> 01:48:06.400 The word there in Hebrew is Hamas. 01:48:06.400 --> 01:48:09.440 I'm going to choose not to read anything into that with regard 01:48:09.440 --> 01:48:11.680 to modern politics. 01:48:11.680 --> 01:48:18.080 But more importantly, in the Septuagint this word is indeed anomion, which 01:48:18.080 --> 01:48:23.200 is lawlessness, this is iniquity, this is a prophecy of Christ, saying 01:48:23.200 --> 01:48:24.800 that he is sinless. 01:48:25.120 --> 01:48:29.120 You don't have that in the rabbinic text. 01:48:29.120 --> 01:48:32.800 You have that very clearly in the Greek. 01:48:32.800 --> 01:48:37.760 You have that very clearly in the actual text of Scripture. 01:48:37.760 --> 01:48:42.560 This is a prophecy of Christ saying that He is killed, He 01:48:42.560 --> 01:48:46.560 is led to death for the sins of the people, despite the 01:48:46.560 --> 01:48:49.600 fact that He Himself is sinless. 01:48:49.840 --> 01:48:53.840 You simply lose this if you're looking at the rabbinic text. 01:48:53.840 --> 01:48:57.120 And so next we go back a little bit in the book 01:48:57.120 --> 01:49:01.200 of Isaiah this time, chapter eleven, I will read first from the 01:49:01.200 --> 01:49:05.840 ESV again and then from the Brenton Isaiah eleven ten. 01:49:05.840 --> 01:49:08.960 In that day the root of Jesse, who shall stand is a 01:49:08.960 --> 01:49:12.960 signal for the peoples, of him shall the nations inquire, and his 01:49:12.960 --> 01:49:15.520 resting place shall be glorious. 01:49:16.000 --> 01:49:19.920 Now from the Brenton, and in that day there shall be a 01:49:19.920 --> 01:49:23.920 root of Jesse, and he that shall arise to rule over the 01:49:23.920 --> 01:49:28.080 nations, in him shall the nations trust, and his rest shall be 01:49:28.080 --> 01:49:29.120 glorious. 01:49:30.800 --> 01:49:34.880 There's a bit of a difference there between the wording of those 01:49:34.880 --> 01:49:37.200 two verses. 01:49:37.200 --> 01:49:41.840 In the rabbinic text, we have Shall the Nations Inquire? 01:49:41.840 --> 01:49:45.200 Okay, sure, the nations will inquire of this man. 01:49:45.200 --> 01:49:47.520 The nations inquire of many men. 01:49:47.520 --> 01:49:51.680 We inquire of historical figures, of great leaders, of all sorts of 01:49:51.680 --> 01:49:57.120 men. But what does it actually say in the Greek? 01:49:57.120 --> 01:50:01.040 He shall arise to rule over the nations, in him shall the 01:50:01.040 --> 01:50:03.040 nations trust. 01:50:03.040 --> 01:50:05.600 That's a fundamentally different statement. 01:50:05.600 --> 01:50:09.040 Saying that the nations will trust in Christ and that He will 01:50:09.040 --> 01:50:13.600 rule over them, obviously this is Christological, but this is also the 01:50:13.600 --> 01:50:18.400 gospel. It's simply removed from the rabbinic text. 01:50:18.400 --> 01:50:23.040 Yet another case in which the rabbis have looked at Scripture, seen 01:50:23.040 --> 01:50:28.720 a prophecy that wasn't for the Jews, and decided to remove it. 01:50:28.720 --> 01:50:32.800 This should be a theme that is very obvious by now. 01:50:32.800 --> 01:50:36.480 If you go through the Septuagint yourself and start comparing it to 01:50:36.480 --> 01:50:40.960 what you have in the Old Testament, particularly if you manage to 01:50:40.960 --> 01:50:45.600 find an actually word-for-word translation of the rabbinic text instead of this 01:50:45.600 --> 01:50:49.440 sort of hodgepodge that we have sometimes from translation committees that have 01:50:49.440 --> 01:50:52.240 pulled from the Greek when they didn't like what the Jews had 01:50:52.240 --> 01:50:53.200 to say. 01:50:53.200 --> 01:50:57.600 You'll notice that they just go ahead and delete prophecies concerning the 01:50:57.600 --> 01:50:59.440 nations whenever they don't like them. 01:50:59.440 --> 01:51:05.520 This is yet another blatant example of that, because the nations will 01:51:05.520 --> 01:51:09.440 inquire of him is not the same thing, as in him shall 01:51:09.440 --> 01:51:11.440 the nations trust. 01:51:11.440 --> 01:51:15.600 They're deleting the gospel from the Old Testament. 01:51:15.680 --> 01:51:15.840 And 01:51:15.840 --> 01:51:18.800 again, as I said at the very beginning of this series, thank 01:51:18.800 --> 01:51:22.560 God for preserving his word even in spite of these changes. 01:51:22.560 --> 01:51:26.320 We're Christians despite having only looked at the rabbinic text because we 01:51:26.800 --> 01:51:30.480 also have the New Testament that verifies that these places where it's 01:51:30.480 --> 01:51:33.040 corrupted, they're then clarified. 01:51:33.040 --> 01:51:36.400 And we have gotten into the habit of thinking, oh, well, the 01:51:36.400 --> 01:51:39.280 New Testament sort of makes it clear, you know, it reveals what 01:51:39.280 --> 01:51:40.240 was concealed before. 01:51:40.240 --> 01:51:43.440 Well, there wasn't nearly as much concealed if you actually have the 01:51:43.440 --> 01:51:47.520 Greek. If you're using the Septuagint, you don't have nearly as many 01:51:47.520 --> 01:51:49.920 surprises when you get to the New Testament. 01:51:49.920 --> 01:51:54.080 Because over and over it's Jesus, Jesus, Jesus, the Christ is coming, 01:51:54.080 --> 01:51:56.720 and he's coming to all of the nations. 01:51:56.720 --> 01:52:00.640 All these non-Jewish races are preserved as the object of God's love 01:52:00.880 --> 01:52:04.080 in the Greek, because it's God's word. 01:52:04.080 --> 01:52:07.600 The last The last verse that we're going to cover today is 01:52:08.880 --> 01:52:12.160 one that came up as we were doing this research. 01:52:12.160 --> 01:52:14.400 I pointed out something interesting to a friend. 01:52:14.400 --> 01:52:17.600 He pointed out something interesting, and I posted about it, and a 01:52:17.600 --> 01:52:21.760 third friend posted a pointed out something that blew my mind. 01:52:21.760 --> 01:52:26.160 So the verse that we're gonna look here at to finish is 01:52:26.160 --> 01:52:29.760 one that I couldn't find any record of anyone having ever said 01:52:29.760 --> 01:52:32.720 it was a Christological prophecy before. 01:52:32.720 --> 01:52:33.040 So 01:52:34.000 --> 01:52:36.480 you're gonna have to make it that what you will. 01:52:36.480 --> 01:52:41.200 Either I'm making stuff up, either we're fabricating here, or when a 01:52:41.200 --> 01:52:44.400 number of Christian men look at the Greek, look at the scripture 01:52:44.720 --> 01:52:48.720 breathed out by God, we find God in places where he was 01:52:48.720 --> 01:52:51.520 obscured because we weren't looking at it. 01:52:51.520 --> 01:52:54.720 The twenty-third Psalm, you might have heard of it. 01:52:54.720 --> 01:52:57.520 Just going to focus on chapter five here. 01:52:57.520 --> 01:53:02.240 And for the rabbinic text I'm gonna use the King James because 01:53:02.240 --> 01:53:06.000 it's what everyone knows and loves and is memorized, including me, despite 01:53:06.000 --> 01:53:08.800 of all the things I say about the King James, the twenty 01:53:08.880 --> 01:53:12.480 third Psalm's rendering in the King James is beautiful, and we all 01:53:12.480 --> 01:53:13.360 understand it. 01:53:13.360 --> 01:53:14.640 That's crucial. 01:53:14.640 --> 01:53:19.600 Part of the obscuration of this language in archaic terms, whether it's 01:53:19.520 --> 01:53:23.040 King James or Brenton, they're both defective in that regard, is it 01:53:23.040 --> 01:53:25.440 makes it difficult to understand things. 01:53:25.440 --> 01:53:28.640 But we've all dealt with Psalm 23 for so long that we 01:53:28.640 --> 01:53:29.280 understand it. 01:53:29.280 --> 01:53:33.200 Even with these and thousands, it's not really very heavily layered with 01:53:33.200 --> 01:53:38.320 other archaic terms, but the differences between the Rabbinic text and the 01:53:38.320 --> 01:53:41.360 Septuagint are profound. 01:53:41.360 --> 01:53:43.280 Psalm twenty three five. 01:53:43.280 --> 01:53:47.200 Thou preparest a table before me in the presence of mine enemies, 01:53:47.200 --> 01:53:51.520 thou anointest my head with oil, my cup runneth over. 01:53:51.520 --> 01:53:54.400 So we all know that, we love it, it's a great passage. 01:53:54.400 --> 01:53:56.960 Listen to what it says in Brenton, since case I'm leaving in 01:53:56.960 --> 01:53:59.040 the these and thou so it matches up. 01:53:59.040 --> 01:54:00.880 This is a septuagent. 01:54:00.880 --> 01:54:03.600 Thou hast prepared a table for me in the presence of them 01:54:03.600 --> 01:54:07.360 that afflict me, thou hast thoroughly anointed my head with oil, it's 01:54:07.280 --> 01:54:08.400 all the same. 01:54:08.400 --> 01:54:13.040 And thy cup inebriates me, how excellent it is. 01:54:13.040 --> 01:54:16.000 What? That's wildly different. 01:54:17.040 --> 01:54:18.000 Read that again. 01:54:18.000 --> 01:54:21.760 And thy cup inebriates me, how excellent it is. 01:54:21.760 --> 01:54:24.160 Versus my cup runneth over. 01:54:24.160 --> 01:54:27.760 It's a lot more words, and it means very different things. 01:54:27.760 --> 01:54:30.720 So let's unpack what's happening here in the Greek. 01:54:30.720 --> 01:54:35.040 Septuagin says, thy cup, your cup inebriates me. 01:54:35.040 --> 01:54:36.240 So it completely changes. 01:54:36.400 --> 01:54:38.480 Not my cup anymore, it's your cup. 01:54:38.480 --> 01:54:42.000 Which is crucial for when we get to what's actually going on 01:54:42.080 --> 01:54:44.000 with this as a prophecy. 01:54:44.000 --> 01:54:47.440 Because remember this is the Christological prophecy episode. 01:54:47.440 --> 01:54:52.320 Psalm 23, verse 5 is a Christological prophecy that was fulfilled at 01:54:52.320 --> 01:54:53.920 the wedding at Cana. 01:54:53.920 --> 01:54:56.560 And that's part of the reason that my cup to your cup 01:54:56.560 --> 01:54:58.400 is so important. 01:54:58.800 --> 01:55:03.280 When you look at what happens in the wedding at Cana, we 01:55:03.280 --> 01:55:05.680 have Jesus' very first miracle. 01:55:05.680 --> 01:55:10.080 And one of the profound things that realizing what was going on 01:55:10.080 --> 01:55:14.400 with this verse in Psalm 23, the impact it had on me 01:55:14.480 --> 01:55:16.720 is that suddenly the wedding of Cana wasn't just out of the 01:55:16.720 --> 01:55:17.840 blue anymore. 01:55:17.920 --> 01:55:21.440 It seems like Jesus' ministry starts very abruptly, doesn't it? 01:55:21.440 --> 01:55:24.000 Like one day, like he's having a conversation with his mom at 01:55:24.000 --> 01:55:26.800 a party and she kinda gets on his nerves and he just 01:55:26.880 --> 01:55:29.760 spontaneously performs a miracle and I guess he's off to the races. 01:55:29.760 --> 01:55:32.240 'Cause once he's done one, he does a bunch more, and well 01:55:32.320 --> 01:55:35.120 now he's proving that he's a Christ. 01:55:35.120 --> 01:55:36.240 He's the Christ. 01:55:36.240 --> 01:55:38.640 He's not simply a carpenter's son anymore. 01:55:38.640 --> 01:55:41.440 He's something more. 01:55:41.440 --> 01:55:46.880 When you change thy cup, he in the Septuagint to my cup, 01:55:46.880 --> 01:55:49.760 it makes the entire thing first person. 01:55:49.840 --> 01:55:54.160 And it's very clear from Psalm 23 that it's not speaking about 01:55:54.160 --> 01:55:55.440 Christ in the first person. 01:55:55.440 --> 01:55:59.600 It's speaking about someone who's afflicted, who's being protected by God, going 01:55:59.680 --> 01:56:03.120 through danger and temptation, all sorts of bad things. 01:56:03.120 --> 01:56:07.840 And although Jesus endured those things, the way that God looks after 01:56:07.840 --> 01:56:12.400 the man, the psalmist, I think it makes the most sense is 01:56:12.400 --> 01:56:16.640 we always have to realize that this is principally about us. 01:56:16.640 --> 01:56:18.400 That's why we find it so comforting. 01:56:18.400 --> 01:56:21.040 It's why it's probably one that almost all of you have memorized. 01:56:21.040 --> 01:56:23.200 If you haven't, you should. 01:56:23.200 --> 01:56:28.640 When the rabbinic texts changed thy cup to my cup runneth over, 01:56:28.640 --> 01:56:31.200 it deletes the connection to the Wenyakana. 01:56:31.200 --> 01:56:35.200 When it's thy cup, and is thy cup inebriates me how excellent 01:56:35.200 --> 01:56:40.000 it is, suddenly the service of the cup is from God. 01:56:40.000 --> 01:56:43.120 It's not simply that we have a man who's being protected by 01:56:43.120 --> 01:56:45.040 God and things are going well, and he has a cup and 01:56:45.040 --> 01:56:46.080 it's overflowing. 01:56:46.080 --> 01:56:49.520 That seems like blessings and bounty, and we've all talked about that 01:56:50.400 --> 01:56:53.040 forever. We understand what that means. 01:56:53.040 --> 01:56:54.560 My cup runneth over. 01:56:54.560 --> 01:56:59.120 When it's thy cup, now the wedding at Cana door is opened. 01:56:59.120 --> 01:57:00.080 And what does it say? 01:57:00.080 --> 01:57:02.960 Thy cup inebrates me how excellent it is. 01:57:02.960 --> 01:57:05.840 And the how excellent it is, you know, the phrasing of the 01:57:05.840 --> 01:57:09.840 Greek isn't it's very clearly connected to the wine itself. 01:57:09.840 --> 01:57:11.760 The word there is inebriate. 01:57:11.760 --> 01:57:13.440 It is about drunkenness. 01:57:13.440 --> 01:57:16.960 And so I initially latched onto that like haha, take that Baptist. 01:57:16.960 --> 01:57:20.080 Not that I'm supporting drunkenness, but what do we have here? 01:57:20.080 --> 01:57:21.280 I don't know what to make of this. 01:57:21.280 --> 01:57:25.920 That my first thought was Psalm twenty-three is about getting drunk, which 01:57:25.920 --> 01:57:29.840 is not what I'm saying, but it says thy cup inebrates me 01:57:29.920 --> 01:57:31.040 how excellent it is. 01:57:31.040 --> 01:57:33.600 What do we have happening at the wedding at Cana? 01:57:33.600 --> 01:57:36.160 Jesus is there, his ministry has not yet begun. 01:57:36.160 --> 01:57:37.840 They run out of wine. 01:57:37.840 --> 01:57:39.920 His mom says, Hey, do something. 01:57:39.920 --> 01:57:44.080 I hope no one feels I'm being disrespectful saying his mom, Mary, 01:57:44.080 --> 01:57:47.760 the blessed mother Mary, like she was his mother, and that was 01:57:47.760 --> 01:57:48.960 their interaction. 01:57:48.960 --> 01:57:50.720 You know, they were humans. 01:57:50.720 --> 01:57:52.800 Jesus was human too. 01:57:52.800 --> 01:57:55.920 He was the son of Mary, the son, just like you're a 01:57:55.920 --> 01:57:59.200 son. When your mom comes and tells you something, maybe you're excited, 01:57:59.200 --> 01:58:01.920 maybe you're annoyed, you gotta deal with her because you're she's your 01:58:01.920 --> 01:58:05.440 mother. And so you deal with her respectfully, and you should generally 01:58:05.440 --> 01:58:06.960 do what she says. 01:58:06.960 --> 01:58:10.960 Mary's last words incidentally in the Bible were do whatever he tells 01:58:10.960 --> 01:58:13.600 you. And then Jesus said, Go fill those jars. 01:58:13.600 --> 01:58:19.200 It was probably 120 to 180 gallons of water was put into 01:58:19.200 --> 01:58:21.680 those jars because they were for ritual purification. 01:58:22.800 --> 01:58:28.640 Those six jars, many theologians going back for two thousand years have 01:58:28.640 --> 01:58:32.560 said that those represented different elements of 01:58:33.760 --> 01:58:35.360 the Levitical law. 01:58:35.360 --> 01:58:39.200 And this was very particularly one aspect of the Levitical Law regarding 01:58:39.200 --> 01:58:40.640 ritual purity. 01:58:40.640 --> 01:58:44.480 What he does was he turned the water into wine. 01:58:44.480 --> 01:58:44.800 And 01:58:45.760 --> 01:58:50.640 so thy and my matter because suddenly this is God who's doing 01:58:50.640 --> 01:58:52.240 the service of the wine. 01:58:52.240 --> 01:58:56.000 Thy cup is the cup that Jesus provided at the wedding at 01:58:56.000 --> 01:58:58.320 Cana. It was his cup. 01:58:58.320 --> 01:58:58.800 And And 01:58:59.680 --> 01:59:04.800 the end of Psalm 23, 5 says, How excellent is this wine, 01:59:04.800 --> 01:59:09.040 this cup, your cup that inebriates me, how excellent it is. 01:59:09.040 --> 01:59:12.800 That was exactly the response of the master of the wedding. 01:59:12.880 --> 01:59:14.640 He came to him and he was blown away. 01:59:14.640 --> 01:59:17.600 He's like, no one ever saves the best wine for last. 01:59:17.600 --> 01:59:20.160 This is this is very good wine. 01:59:20.160 --> 01:59:24.400 So the last element of this that I want to highlight is 01:59:24.400 --> 01:59:27.360 that this is something another friend pointed out. 01:59:27.360 --> 01:59:31.360 This was a wedding in Cana in Galilee, not that far north 01:59:31.360 --> 01:59:32.560 from Jerusalem. 01:59:32.560 --> 01:59:36.000 It was three years before the crucifixion, so you can expect that 01:59:36.000 --> 01:59:37.840 a lot of people there were not super old. 01:59:37.840 --> 01:59:41.280 They probably mostly had not died of old age three years later, 01:59:41.280 --> 01:59:46.400 when Jesus was crucified, there's a very good chance, there's a very 01:59:46.400 --> 01:59:49.360 real likelihood that there were people who were at the wedding of 01:59:49.360 --> 01:59:55.440 Cana that Jesus served this wine who were also present shouting for 01:59:55.440 --> 01:59:59.280 his blood during the trial with Prometheus Pilate. 01:59:59.280 --> 02:00:04.240 And so the other part of the twenty-third Psalm is about a 02:00:04.240 --> 02:00:07.600 table being prepared in the presence of mine enemies. 02:00:07.760 --> 02:00:11.680 It's very likely that those friends, those guests who are present at 02:00:11.680 --> 02:00:15.200 the wedding, later on became his enemies. 02:00:15.200 --> 02:00:18.160 And one of the reasons I think there's a very strong argument 02:00:18.400 --> 02:00:24.640 to be made that this is a Christological prophecy, is this bookends 02:00:24.720 --> 02:00:29.360 both the table with my enemies assuming the possibility that there were 02:00:29.360 --> 02:00:30.800 guests at the wedding at Cain. 02:00:30.800 --> 02:00:31.760 It was a big party. 02:00:31.760 --> 02:00:34.080 Like if they had 180 gallons of wine, there were a fair 02:00:34.080 --> 02:00:35.120 number of people there. 02:00:35.120 --> 02:00:38.400 And the the parties lasted for several days, but still, that's a 02:00:38.400 --> 02:00:40.800 whole lot of drinking, even with dilution. 02:00:40.800 --> 02:00:42.240 It was a big party. 02:00:42.240 --> 02:00:45.680 It's reasonable to believe that some of those would have been when 02:00:45.680 --> 02:00:48.160 they were calling for his crucifixion. 02:00:48.160 --> 02:00:50.800 So that would have been a case at the beginning of Jesus' 02:00:50.880 --> 02:00:54.320 ministry at the wedding at Cana in Galilee, that he was in 02:00:54.320 --> 02:00:56.720 the presence of his enemies at a table. 02:00:56.720 --> 02:01:00.000 He was also in the presence of his enemies on the last 02:01:00.000 --> 02:01:04.640 night. When he was betrayed, he was sitting there with Judas. 02:01:04.640 --> 02:01:07.600 So this prophecy was fulfilled twice over. 02:01:07.600 --> 02:01:10.960 It was fulfilled the Psalm twenty three, not only verse five, but 02:01:10.960 --> 02:01:14.960 all of Psalm twenty three was fulfilled with Jesus being in the 02:01:14.960 --> 02:01:18.640 presence of his enemies at the wedding, and then on the last 02:01:18.640 --> 02:01:21.760 night, with Judas sitting at the table. 02:01:21.760 --> 02:01:26.720 And interestingly, if you look at Matthew twenty six, gonna skip a 02:01:26.720 --> 02:01:29.520 little bit, but I'm gonna read two different things that Jesus said 02:01:29.520 --> 02:01:31.520 about a cop in Matthew twenty six. 02:01:31.520 --> 02:01:34.160 And going a little farther, he fell on his face and prayed, 02:01:34.160 --> 02:01:38.240 saying, My father, if it be possible Let this cup pass from 02:01:38.240 --> 02:01:41.760 me. Nevertheless, not as I will, but as you will. 02:01:41.760 --> 02:01:45.040 Again for the second time he went away and prayed, My father, 02:01:45.040 --> 02:01:49.600 if this cannot pass until I drink it, your will be done. 02:01:49.600 --> 02:01:54.880 I think the symmetry of thy cup inebriating me and how excellent 02:01:54.880 --> 02:01:59.600 it is with Jesus suffering on the last night where he compares 02:01:59.760 --> 02:02:04.080 his suffering to a cup that is overflowing with the worst form 02:02:05.200 --> 02:02:09.360 of misery and torment and dread, he was frightened of what was 02:02:09.360 --> 02:02:09.680 to come. 02:02:09.680 --> 02:02:11.280 He knew what was to come. 02:02:11.280 --> 02:02:14.240 And so when he says twice for the Father to take this 02:02:14.240 --> 02:02:18.880 cup from him, I see that as the exact opposite sort of 02:02:18.880 --> 02:02:21.920 cup that we see in Psalm twenty three. 02:02:21.920 --> 02:02:26.240 There's a lot to unpack there if you conclude that it's possible 02:02:26.640 --> 02:02:28.960 this is a Christological prophecy. 02:02:28.960 --> 02:02:32.000 I think once you realize that it's not my cup, but it's 02:02:32.000 --> 02:02:36.000 thy cup, and that Jesus is serving it, how excellent that wine 02:02:36.000 --> 02:02:39.520 is, suddenly the wedding of Cana is not out of the blue 02:02:39.520 --> 02:02:43.440 anymore. It's the fulfillment, very obviously even in the moment of this 02:02:43.440 --> 02:02:47.600 prophecy, that ends with the last time that he had wine apart 02:02:47.600 --> 02:02:51.120 from the vinegar on the cross was when he was together with 02:02:51.120 --> 02:02:54.160 the apostles on the night when he was betrayed sitting next to 02:02:54.240 --> 02:02:57.840 Judas. I think that Psalm twenty three is one of the most 02:02:57.840 --> 02:03:00.880 important Christological prophecies in the entire Bible. 02:03:00.880 --> 02:03:05.440 It bookends his entire earthly ministry. 02:03:05.520 --> 02:03:09.120 Psalm 23 is a great place for us to end this episode 02:03:09.440 --> 02:03:14.480 because it is one of the clearest examples where we can reiterate 02:03:14.480 --> 02:03:17.840 a point that we have been making throughout this series. 02:03:19.120 --> 02:03:24.640 There are centuries ahead of the church of work in dealing with 02:03:24.640 --> 02:03:29.520 the Septuagint, in dealing with the actual Old Testament, and that's not 02:03:29.520 --> 02:03:30.560 bad news. 02:03:30.560 --> 02:03:34.480 No one should hear that as bad news or as a problem, 02:03:34.480 --> 02:03:37.680 that is great news for the Church. 02:03:37.680 --> 02:03:40.480 This is similar to one of the points that we make with 02:03:40.480 --> 02:03:44.880 regard to the fact that baptism and the sacrament of the table 02:03:44.880 --> 02:03:46.960 are both means of grace. 02:03:47.120 --> 02:03:50.240 There are those who will ask who will raise the issue, well, 02:03:50.240 --> 02:03:51.360 isn't it faith alone? 02:03:51.360 --> 02:03:52.160 Of course. 02:03:52.160 --> 02:03:54.160 It is solafide. 02:03:54.160 --> 02:03:58.000 Solograti, it's by grace alone, through faith alone. 02:03:58.000 --> 02:04:02.320 But God is superabundant in how He presents His gifts to us, 02:04:02.320 --> 02:04:04.720 and so we don't look at God and say why are you 02:04:04.720 --> 02:04:05.600 doing it this way? 02:04:05.600 --> 02:04:09.360 We are thankful for the bounty that He has given us. 02:04:09.360 --> 02:04:12.400 In the same way we are thankful for what God has preserved 02:04:12.400 --> 02:04:17.200 for the church in the Septuagint, in the actual Old Testament. 02:04:17.200 --> 02:04:21.440 We have more and greater gifts from God than we thought we 02:04:21.440 --> 02:04:25.840 had. We thought we had only this text that was handed to 02:04:25.840 --> 02:04:29.520 us by rabbis and we had to interpret it in light of 02:04:29.520 --> 02:04:32.640 the New Testament and use the lens of the New Testament in 02:04:32.640 --> 02:04:36.000 order to fix these things that seemed like they were problems and 02:04:36.080 --> 02:04:38.960 none of None of that matters because we have the actual Word 02:04:38.960 --> 02:04:43.120 of God which doesn't have those problems, and God preserved it for 02:04:43.120 --> 02:04:45.840 us despite our unfaithfulness. 02:04:45.840 --> 02:04:48.400 That is great news. 02:04:48.400 --> 02:04:53.120 Psalm twenty-three has books that will be written about it in the 02:04:53.120 --> 02:04:55.040 future by faithful men. 02:04:55.040 --> 02:04:58.160 I'm not saying that I will be writing one of those books 02:04:58.240 --> 02:05:01.200 certainly, I'm disinclined to do so. 02:05:01.200 --> 02:05:03.760 As Woe and I have said before, we are not the men 02:05:03.760 --> 02:05:06.240 who will be making some of these calls in the future. 02:05:06.240 --> 02:05:09.680 We will be making some recommendations in the last episode in this 02:05:09.680 --> 02:05:13.760 series. But this is work for men who have not yet even 02:05:13.760 --> 02:05:14.960 been born. 02:05:14.960 --> 02:05:19.760 There will be a translation in our lifetimes of the Septuagint that 02:05:19.760 --> 02:05:25.520 is faithful, that is in modern, comprehensible, fluid English. 02:05:25.520 --> 02:05:29.040 But that will need to be done again in a hundred years. 02:05:29.360 --> 02:05:32.400 For reasons that we've explained and will go into greater depth in 02:05:32.400 --> 02:05:34.320 the future episode. 02:05:34.320 --> 02:05:38.000 But I want to highlight one more thing with regard to Psalm 02:05:38.240 --> 02:05:43.040 23. When it says, Thy cup cheers me like the best wine. 02:05:43.040 --> 02:05:45.760 There's another fulfillment of that. 02:05:45.760 --> 02:05:52.160 That's fulfilled every single Sunday in the Divine Service. 02:05:52.160 --> 02:05:55.200 That's a Eucharistic prophecy. 02:05:55.200 --> 02:06:01.280 Because many prophecies in Scripture have not one fulfillment, but many fulfillments. 02:06:01.280 --> 02:06:05.200 Many times they are fulfilled chiefly in Christ, and that is certainly 02:06:05.200 --> 02:06:07.920 the case with regard to Psalm twenty three. 02:06:07.920 --> 02:06:12.400 But then there's the additional fulfillment when Christ brings his gifts to 02:06:12.400 --> 02:06:15.360 you in the sacrament of the table. 02:06:15.360 --> 02:06:19.600 That is his cup, that is thy cup which cheers me. 02:06:19.600 --> 02:06:22.560 You can say it in that way as well, because it is 02:06:22.560 --> 02:06:26.880 Christ's cup, with which He is cheering you with the forgiveness of 02:06:26.880 --> 02:06:31.360 sins. Again I want to reiterate, all of this should be cause 02:06:31.360 --> 02:06:35.120 for hope and joy, because the things that we have, the things 02:06:35.120 --> 02:06:41.520 that God has preserved for us are wonderful gifts, are great gifts, 02:06:41.520 --> 02:06:45.920 are super abundant, are more than we thought that we had. 02:06:45.920 --> 02:06:51.280 And so just because there are some issues to be resolved does 02:06:51.280 --> 02:06:54.240 not mean there are any problems. 02:06:54.240 --> 02:06:57.280 The Greek doesn't present us problems. 02:06:57.280 --> 02:07:01.840 The Greek presents us with what God has saved for us, what 02:07:01.840 --> 02:07:07.440 God used to build the early church, what God himself in the 02:07:07.440 --> 02:07:11.840 person of Christ used during his earthly ministry, what his apostles used 02:07:12.640 --> 02:07:15.920 following his example. 02:07:15.920 --> 02:07:19.120 The church is built on this foundation because it is built on 02:07:19.120 --> 02:07:23.360 the foundation of God's Word, and this is in fact God's Word, 02:07:23.360 --> 02:07:26.640 because He promised that it would be preserved, and it has in 02:07:26.640 --> 02:07:28.320 fact been preserved. 02:07:28.320 --> 02:07:29.840 Again, this is good news. 02:07:29.840 --> 02:07:31.600 All of this is good news. 02:07:31.600 --> 02:07:35.120 It may seem like we're highlighting problems with this text or that 02:07:35.120 --> 02:07:39.040 text, or there's a word difference here, a change there, this diction 02:07:39.040 --> 02:07:41.840 here, whatever it happens to be. 02:07:41.840 --> 02:07:47.600 Yes, those things are worth examining, but not because there are problems, 02:07:47.600 --> 02:07:52.000 not because there are deficits, but because, on the one hand, with 02:07:52.000 --> 02:07:57.520 the rabbinic text, Satan has worked his evil work over a course 02:07:57.520 --> 02:08:01.680 of centuries in an attempt to corrupt and subvert. 02:08:01.680 --> 02:08:05.520 But on the other hand, with the Greek text, God has been 02:08:05.520 --> 02:08:10.160 faithful to his promises and has preserved everything that we need, because 02:08:10.160 --> 02:08:12.720 nothing of His Word has been lost. 02:08:12.720 --> 02:08:16.000 And we know that, because again it is the very word that 02:08:16.000 --> 02:08:19.440 He That He Himself quotes in the New Testament. 02:08:19.440 --> 02:08:23.280 It is the very word upon which the Apostles relied. 02:08:23.280 --> 02:08:26.880 It is the very word upon which the church is built. 02:08:26.880 --> 02:08:30.160 And all we have to do is take God at His Word, 02:08:30.160 --> 02:08:36.960 believe in His promises, and undo the things that Satan has done. 02:08:36.960 --> 02:08:41.920 Undo and reverse the things that Satan has brought into the church. 02:08:41.920 --> 02:08:45.680 And it's not very difficult to do, because all it requires us 02:08:45.680 --> 02:08:49.520 to do is rely upon the word that God preserved in the 02:08:49.520 --> 02:08:54.480 Greek, rejecting the evil that the rabbis have attempted to bring into 02:08:54.480 --> 02:08:55.520 the church. 02:08:55.520 --> 02:08:59.520 We should never have believed those who murdered Christ in the first 02:08:59.520 --> 02:09:04.160 place. We should have stopped believing them centuries ago. 02:09:04.160 --> 02:09:06.960 All we have to do is be faithful. 02:09:06.960 --> 02:09:10.320 God has promised and God has delivered. 02:09:10.480 --> 02:09:13.760 And more than that, He promises us that He will bless us 02:09:13.760 --> 02:09:15.280 for faithfulness. 02:09:15.280 --> 02:09:18.400 All we have to do is be faithful. 02:09:19.200 --> 02:09:20.560 Read the Greek. 02:09:20.560 --> 02:09:23.920 Read the Old Testament, that is the Old Testament of Christ and 02:09:23.920 --> 02:09:25.360 the Apostles. 02:09:25.360 --> 02:09:27.680 It is a better book. 02:09:27.680 --> 02:09:29.840 Because of course it's a better book. 02:09:29.840 --> 02:09:32.160 Because it's the Word of God.