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<v Speaker 2>Welcome to the Stone Choir Podcast.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>I am Corey J.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>Mahler.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>And I'm still Woe.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>Today's Stone Choir is going to be the prequel to the beginning</v>

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<v Speaker 3>of our series on the Septuagint.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>It's something we've been talking about for probably about sixteen months now.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>Been excited for a really long time to begin doing these episodes.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>We had been holding off waiting for a book to be published</v>

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<v Speaker 3>so that we could release this episode the same time that that</v>

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<v Speaker 3>book had come out.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>Hopefully it's gonna be coming soon, but we're not gonna wait any</v>

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<v Speaker 3>longer. The next episode that we do probably not next week, 'cause</v>

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<v Speaker 3>we're gonna have to do a bunch of final prep to prepare</v>

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<v Speaker 3>that episode.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>We've been working on it for sixteen months, but we want to</v>

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<v Speaker 3>get all our ducks in a row because the Septuagint series is</v>

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<v Speaker 3>going to be the most important thing that Stone Choir ever does.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>And so we gotta get it right.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>We wanna make it enjoyable, listenable, digestible, and understandable.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>And so it's gonna be the 100th episode.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>We'll be beginning of that.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>This is our 99th episode.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>And I call it a prequel because as I was preparing my</v>

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<v Speaker 3>comments in the preamble for the 100th episode, for the Septuagint episode,</v>

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<v Speaker 3>I was going to talk about what we're going to discuss today.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>And once my preparatory comments got probably best about the thirty minute</v>

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<v Speaker 3>mark, I realized this should really probably just be an episode by</v>

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<v Speaker 3>itself. Because what we're going to talk about today doesn't have anything</v>

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<v Speaker 3>to do with Septuagint.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>It has to do with a methodical approach to what we learn</v>

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<v Speaker 3>and how we learn, how the human mind works.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>So the title of the episode is the context window, which is</v>

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<v Speaker 3>a term of art from LLM's large language models or AI.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>We're going to be talking in some detail about how AIs work</v>

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<v Speaker 3>in this specific regard, but this is not a bunch of nerd</v>

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<v Speaker 3>stuff. you don't need to know or care about AI.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>This is about how the human mind works.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>This is about your brain, my brain, how we process information, how</v>

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<v Speaker 3>we store it, how we access it, and how we reason with</v>

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<v Speaker 3>the information that we have.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>This episode is going to be kind of the intersection of the</v>

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<v Speaker 3>genealogy of ideas and the IQ episode, and it's specifically related to</v>

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<v Speaker 3>how much can you hold in your mind at once when you're</v>

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<v Speaker 3>mulling over something?</v>

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<v Speaker 3>And that's really what the context window is.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>For an LLM, the context window is kind of its RAM in</v>

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<v Speaker 3>a way.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>It's its working set of whatever conversation you're having at a given</v>

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<v Speaker 3>time. How much of that conversation can it remember and refer back</v>

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<v Speaker 3>to both what you've said to the AI and what it said</v>

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<v Speaker 3>to you?</v>

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<v Speaker 3>Because as long as you stay inside that context window, it can</v>

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<v Speaker 3>have perfect recollection of everything that's been spoken.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>The problem, and the reason for doing this episode, is as soon</v>

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<v Speaker 3>as with an LLM you spill over the maximum extent of that</v>

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<v Speaker 3>context window, it just loses its mind.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>It can't remember anything larger than that window.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>And And the human mind works the same way, just fuzzier.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>So you can be having a conversation with someone and you know,</v>

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<v Speaker 3>if the conversation goes on for ten or fifteen minutes, you can</v>

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<v Speaker 3>sort of remember most basic things that they said ten minutes ago,</v>

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<v Speaker 3>maybe. You get the gist of it.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>you couldn't quote a back to them, but you're on the same</v>

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<v Speaker 3>page, because you've been having a back and forth and you can</v>

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<v Speaker 3>sort of understand it.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>So with humans, the context window is fuzzy.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>With computers, it's very fixed.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>The reason that we want to talk about it is a preface</v>

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<v Speaker 3>for the next episode, the Septuagint episode, when we begin that series,</v>

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<v Speaker 3>we are going to be going through about 2,500 years of church</v>

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<v Speaker 3>history. We're going to be presenting numerous facts in order.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>It's going to be another timeline episode.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>A bunch of staccato points about this guy did this at this</v>

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<v Speaker 3>time and it influenced someone else later, someone else chose to either</v>

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<v Speaker 3>follow or to deviate from his path.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>And we just have a series of those events leading up to</v>

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<v Speaker 3>today. And so the Septuagint, when you put all of the facts</v>

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<v Speaker 3>related to that translation of the Bible, as it's commonly referred to,</v>

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<v Speaker 3>you end up with where we are today.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>And the point that we're going to be making in that episode</v>

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<v Speaker 3>is that when you look at the entire timeline, the conclusions that</v>

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<v Speaker 3>we have today about the Septuagint are invalidated.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>The only way to have the current view of the Septuagint that's</v>

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<v Speaker 3>commonly held by pretty much everyone in the Christian church and elsewhere</v>

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<v Speaker 3>is to make mistakes somewhere along the way in the timeline.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>As we've been doing the prep for that episode, we realize that</v>

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<v Speaker 3>this is just it's a huge amount of information.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>And we're gonna be distilling a lot.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>Part of the reason that we've put off releasing the Septuagint series</v>

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<v Speaker 3>until that book was published was we wanted to put something in</v>

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<v Speaker 3>your hands.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>Basically the book is someone's master's thesis.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>It's just the historical aspect of this.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>It's portions of this timeline.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>It's not everything that we're going to talk about.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>It's a subset of it.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>But it's a lot of the really important parts in the specific</v>

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<v Speaker 3>context of church history, which is really vital.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>So So the thrust of the master's thesis about the Septuagint is</v>

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<v Speaker 3>that nothing new is being said.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>This is all settled history.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>It's not controversial.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>It's not some weird new discovery.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>We're not talking about gold tablets here.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>We're just talking about looking at the way the church has historically</v>

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<v Speaker 3>viewed the Septuagint versus the Masoretic text, which is the what we</v>

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<v Speaker 3>call the Hebrew Old Testament.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>And the Septuagint I should have defined for those who aren't familiar,</v>

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<v Speaker 3>the Greek Old Testament.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>We'll give the historical details in the next episode, but as we</v>

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<v Speaker 3>were looking at this huge timeline, we realized we're gonna blow out</v>

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<v Speaker 3>your context window.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>You're not gonna be able to keep it all in your head.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>And that's fine, except that we're going to be telling you new</v>

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<v Speaker 3>conclusions derived from that timeline that will be controversial.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>Unlike the book.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>The book is not controversial, but it's very valuable because it lays</v>

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<v Speaker 3>out the basics.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>Our conclusions are going to be controversial and we don't want to</v>

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<v Speaker 3>seem to be manipulative of people by saying what I'm going to</v>

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<v Speaker 3>say next.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>When we're going through that episode, people are going to have to</v>

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<v Speaker 3>not fight back as we're going through.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>Because what's going to happen is we go through the details of</v>

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<v Speaker 3>the history of the Septuagint.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>If you know a little bit about some detail somewhere along the</v>

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<v Speaker 3>timeline, where one of your favorite theologians has the had this opinion</v>

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<v Speaker 3>about it, you're gonna be shouting at your your phone or however</v>

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<v Speaker 3>you listen to this podcast and saying, well that can't be because</v>

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<v Speaker 3>of this other thing.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>We don't want to brainwash anyone.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>We don't want to blow smoke.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>We're not trying to play any magic tricks.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>So I'll say it here, and I'm going to say it again</v>

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<v Speaker 3>in the next episode.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>When we're going through that very detailed timeline, every time you have</v>

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<v Speaker 3>that impulse, every time you hear something like that's crap, that can't</v>

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<v Speaker 3>be right, this other guy said this.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>Please pause the recording, write it down, either on a piece of</v>

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<v Speaker 3>paper or on your computer, and then put it out of your</v>

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<v Speaker 3>mind. Both of those things are necessary because I don't want you</v>

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<v Speaker 3>to forget what you thought was objectionable.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>Not trying to play a game where you just have to believe</v>

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<v Speaker 3>whatever we say.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>That's despicable.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>It's the last thing that we would ever want.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>But if you were just sitting there stewing because you know we</v>

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<v Speaker 3>You know we have to be wrong because we didn't talk about</v>

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<v Speaker 3>that one thing.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>It's gonna be a long episode.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>We might end up breaking even the timeline into multiple chunks depending</v>

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<v Speaker 3>on how long it gets.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>What we need from you as listeners is to cooperate for the</v>

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<v Speaker 3>duration of the episode and just let us make our case.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>Let us make the entire case without arguing, which is why you</v>

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<v Speaker 3>need to pause and write things down.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>Basically, once again, we're asking you to be jurists.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>If you've ever been on a jury, if you've ever seen jury</v>

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<v Speaker 3>instructions on TV, the judge will say, Don't discuss this amongst yourselves,</v>

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<v Speaker 3>don't look it up on the internet.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>You are only to listen to what's presented in court.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>And when you begin your deliberations, then you can talk freely.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>But as long as the court case is open, you have to</v>

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<v Speaker 3>keep an open mind, you have to take in everything that you</v>

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<v Speaker 3>hear, whether it's true or false, and not prejudge, not reach any</v>

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<v Speaker 3>conclusions until the case is closed.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>That's essentially what we're doing here.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>I absolutely want you to take the most critical, brutal approach to</v>

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<v Speaker 3>what we say in the next episode.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>That's fine.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>I want you to write it all down.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>But if you're just convinced at every point, when we're thirty minutes</v>

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<v Speaker 3>into that episode, they'll probably be at least three hours, and you're</v>

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<v Speaker 3>already convinced that we're wrong in the third century because because of</v>

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<v Speaker 3>something that some guy said in the 15th century, you're not being</v>

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<v Speaker 3>a good jurist.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>You've already prejudged based on something you brought in from outside, and</v>

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<v Speaker 3>it's gonna break our case.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>Now again, maybe the case is completely fabricated and we're lying and</v>

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<v Speaker 3>we're trying to play games.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>I don't want you to be misled by our approach.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>So I'm just gonna say flat out, pause the recording and write</v>

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<v Speaker 3>down your objections and then just set them aside.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>Continue listening and know that that piece of paper is going to</v>

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<v Speaker 3>be there.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>You're not going to forget, because you've written it down.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>We're not going to be able to trick you.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>The reason for all of that, and the reason for this episode</v>

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<v Speaker 3>is a preamble, is that the scope of the information we're going</v>

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<v Speaker 3>to be presenting blows out your context window.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>There's more there than you can take in.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>And I was thinking about this in the shower this morning, and</v>

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<v Speaker 3>I realized that this is actually akin to something that happened in</v>

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<v Speaker 3>my childhood.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>Bill Clinton ran for president when I was in high school.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>He was the first Brumer president.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>And so he was young at the time.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>And the fact that he was so young relative to Bob Dole</v>

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<v Speaker 3>was a big deal.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>And there was a lot of discussion at that time by the</v>

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<v Speaker 3>Democrat Party in particular of two things.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>Rock the vote was a big thing that they were pushing on</v>

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<v Speaker 3>MTV, and the motor voter bill was something that Congress passed around</v>

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<v Speaker 3>that time.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>The specific intent of Rock the Vote and the Motor Voter Bill</v>

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<v Speaker 3>was essentially to make every single person in the country a voter,</v>

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<v Speaker 3>no matter what, no matter how low information anyone was, in particular</v>

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<v Speaker 3>the younger they were and the less they knew, the more important</v>

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<v Speaker 3>it was to the Democrats that those people voted.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>Historically in the US, voting has been seen as something that's a</v>

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<v Speaker 3>duty, but it's a duty to participate in something where if you</v>

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<v Speaker 3>get it wrong, you're gonna harm your neighbor.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>You can't make a mistake in voting about something because if you</v>

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<v Speaker 3>do, your neighbor's going to be hurt, you're going to be hurt,</v>

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<v Speaker 3>your family's going to be hurt.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>You're choosing usually between two not great options.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>But if you pick the wrong one, you're going to make things</v>

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<v Speaker 3>worse for both yourself and your neighbor.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>And the Democrats have been devoted for very long time to making</v>

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<v Speaker 3>things as bad as possible.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>And so they wanted as many as low information, low propensity voters</v>

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<v Speaker 3>as possible to be participants.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>Which is why today, once you're registered to vote, it's basically automatic</v>

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<v Speaker 3>and perpetual.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>They made it as easy as possible with legislation when I was</v>

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<v Speaker 3>a kid, so that once you're registered to vote, it's just sticks</v>

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<v Speaker 3>forever. So that it's virtually frictionless for you to go vote.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>The reason that's relative to this, this discussion today is that</v>

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<v Speaker 3>what happened there and what it we're living in the the aftermath</v>

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<v Speaker 3>and the continuum of is end stage egalitarianism where everyone's valuable, everyone's</v>

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<v Speaker 3>opinion is valuable, everyone gets a vote because we're all equals.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>And so it doesn't matter if the person voting is an 18-year-old</v>

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<v Speaker 3>that has no idea what's going on, but they heard a commercial</v>

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<v Speaker 3>that sounded like the other guy was really bad.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>What happened with this end stage democratic egalitarianism is that the act</v>

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<v Speaker 3>of voting itself is described in in religious terms.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>They describe it as sacrosanct, and they will basically elevate voting to</v>

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<v Speaker 3>the highest moral good, even above</v>

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<v Speaker 3>caring about for whom you vote.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>It doesn't matter who you vote for, just vote.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>You've all heard that said.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>That is a religious tenant to say it doesn't matter who you</v>

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<v Speaker 3>vote for as long as you vote, because the highest good is</v>

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<v Speaker 3>participation. So it occurred to me, and the reason for this is</v>

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<v Speaker 3>that when you exclude culpability for getting things wrong, when you exclude</v>

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<v Speaker 3>any notion that a man should know what he's doing before he</v>

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<v Speaker 3>does something.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>When you create an environment inside the voting booth where no sin</v>

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<v Speaker 3>can occur, when you vote you are absolutely doing a moral good,</v>

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<v Speaker 3>and the only sin that could occur related to voting would be</v>

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<v Speaker 3>if someone prevented you from voting, if they discouraged you from voting,</v>

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<v Speaker 3>or if they physically prevented you.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>That would be the highest sin imaginable in democracy, because your vote</v>

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<v Speaker 3>is sacred.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>The problem with that is that maybe you're an idiot and you</v>

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<v Speaker 3>don't know what you're doing.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>And when you step into the voting booth, you've been lied to</v>

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<v Speaker 3>for the five minutes that you were paying attention and you end</v>

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<v Speaker 3>up voting for the worst of two possible options.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>Foolishly, you didn't know any better.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>But But what has happened with our society is that we're told</v>

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<v Speaker 3>that's fine.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>You did the right thing because you voted.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>Whatever else, at least you participated.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>And even if you got something wrong, you can participate again in</v>

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<v Speaker 3>four years or two years, and you can vote in the opposite</v>

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<v Speaker 3>direction, that will be good.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>As long as you're voting, you're always moral.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>That's what the I voted stickers are.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>The I voted sticker that they hand out is basically like the</v>

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<v Speaker 3>ashes that are put on our foreheads on Ash Wednesday.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>It is a secular religion saying I have been absolved of my</v>

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<v Speaker 3>sins by the virtue of my vote.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>What this has to do with context window in all these discussions</v>

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<v Speaker 3>we're going to be talking about is that if participation by itself</v>

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<v Speaker 3>is the highest moral good, then you are free from any notion</v>

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<v Speaker 3>of having to do it well.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>You are free from any notion of having to actually know what</v>

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<v Speaker 3>you're talking about.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>And that is the problem that we see every day on social</v>

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<v Speaker 3>media and elsewhere.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>And all the social media people, it has many bad things, but</v>

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<v Speaker 3>fundamentally it's just people talking to each other.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>That's almost always strangers talking to each other where you get to</v>

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<v Speaker 3>know people.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>But it's fundamentally you just talking to other random people who could</v>

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<v Speaker 3>be anywhere on the planet.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>The participatory element of social media is exactly like the participatory element</v>

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<v Speaker 3>of voting.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>As long as you vote, you've done a good thing.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>And that's what we see on social media.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>As long as you have an opinion and you speak up, you've</v>

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<v Speaker 3>done a good thing.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>It doesn't matter if you're right or wrong.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>It doesn't matter if you have any facts in mind.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>All that matters is that you participated.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>And so the end stages that on social media is what we</v>

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<v Speaker 3>see today is even intelligent Christians give no thought whatsoever when they're</v>

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<v Speaker 3>wading into some debate that's maybe been going on for years, arguments</v>

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<v Speaker 3>been going on where they've seen one element of a thousand, but</v>

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<v Speaker 3>they don't care to learn any of the backstory.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>All they care about is, well, I need to have an opinion</v>

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<v Speaker 3>about this.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>I saw one person do one thing and another person do another</v>

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<v Speaker 3>thing. I have to pick a side and I have to make</v>

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<v Speaker 3>my voice heard.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>This is just basically how we all behave today.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>And it's repugnant.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>And part of it is that it's the collapse of our own</v>

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<v Speaker 3>personal context windows to the last 30 seconds, 15 seconds.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>You don't need to know any backstory because if you see one</v>

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<v Speaker 3>person do something, you're now free to judge them.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>You have all the information you need to make a profound moral</v>

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<v Speaker 3>judgment for against that person.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>You picked your side, you've declared it, and because you said it</v>

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<v Speaker 3>out loud, I voted, I have performed the highest moral good by</v>

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<v Speaker 3>stating my opinion on the internet.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>That's pretty much what we've been reduced to functionally.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>It's very much like the subject in last week's episode where we</v>

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<v Speaker 3>talked about how addiction being elevated to an excuse for sin, once</v>

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<v Speaker 3>you've psychologized away the notion that sin exists, it just patterns a</v>

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<v Speaker 3>behavior, when you're absolved from having to actually behave in a moral</v>

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<v Speaker 3>fashion, in a fashion that evaluates your actions, when morality is no</v>

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<v Speaker 3>longer a factor, when it's just, well, I'm participating, I I'm an</v>

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<v Speaker 3>addict, so of course I do addict things.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>I I want to stop being an addict, but you know, uh</v>

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<v Speaker 3>there's no moral culpability.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>I'm gonna vote, it doesn't matter who I vote for, but I</v>

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<v Speaker 3>have to do it because it's important to participate.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>I see two guys talking on the internet, I'm gonna make my</v>

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<v Speaker 3>voice heard because that's the important thing.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>And as long as I do that, I bear no moral culpability</v>

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<v Speaker 3>for the degree of ignorance that I've just expressed.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>And</v>

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<v Speaker 3>when we lay out the entire Sebtuage on argument, it's going to</v>

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<v Speaker 3>be so much bigger than anyone's context window that if you take</v>

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<v Speaker 3>that approach, if you take the last 15 seconds of whatever we</v>

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<v Speaker 3>said and you react indignantly, you're not going to get anything out</v>

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<v Speaker 3>of it.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>You won't learn anything.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>It's going to be a waste of your time.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>And I want you to be able to get something out of</v>

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<v Speaker 3>it. And that involves this precursor where we say there's this thing</v>

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<v Speaker 3>going on in all of our heads.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>Again, this isn't about LLMs or AI.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>This is about how our brains work.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>We have a finite amount of scratch space.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>I've been speaking now for eighteen minutes.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>You can remember bits and pieces of what I said three, five,</v>

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<v Speaker 3>eight minutes ago, but you couldn't verbatim, and that's fine, because I'm</v>

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<v Speaker 3>making a series of points, and you're generally coming along.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>Next week, next month, the only thing that I care about you</v>

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<v Speaker 3>remembering is the notion of the context window that you can only</v>

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<v Speaker 3>hold so much in your head at once.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>It's why Corey and I often on Stone Choir will repeat things.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>We aggravate some of the smarter guys in the audience by repeating</v>

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<v Speaker 3>things ad nauseum and we'll often use that explicit term.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>We know that we're being redundant because we want it to sink</v>

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<v Speaker 3>in. We know that you listen for 90 minutes or two hours,</v>

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<v Speaker 3>and maybe only two or three things are gonna actually implant themselves.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>We try to make sure it's the things that we we care</v>

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<v Speaker 3>about. We try to make sure it's the things that we made</v>

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<v Speaker 3>the episode for and not some random joke or something.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>So So we're cognizant of the fact that this is how everybody's</v>

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<v Speaker 3>brains work.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>No matter how smart you are, you have an outer limit to</v>

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<v Speaker 3>what you can hold in mind.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>But once you realize that you have this personal limitation, it does</v>

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<v Speaker 3>begin to have a moral tenor.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>Because if you personally can only remember the last five minutes of</v>

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<v Speaker 3>a conversation and it's been going on for twenty minutes, think twice</v>

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<v Speaker 3>about getting angry about the last thing that a guy said because</v>

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<v Speaker 3>maybe it ties back to something you forgot.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>And we see this on social media where guys, even when the</v>

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<v Speaker 3>text record is right there, when you have post, post, post, post,</v>

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<v Speaker 3>and anyone could go back and read all of them, they'll get</v>

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<v Speaker 3>mad about something at the end of a thread that's only 15</v>

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<v Speaker 3>minutes long because they forgot what was going on earlier.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>That's not only a behavioral problem, but it's a moral problem.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>Because when you're reaching dire conclusions about something, this guy's evil, this</v>

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<v Speaker 3>guy's terrible.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>If If you do that with just absolutely no effort whatsoever, but</v>

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<v Speaker 3>you do with a clean conscience because hey, I voted, I participated,</v>

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<v Speaker 3>I posted, my conscience is clean.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>That's a bad thing.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>It's a bad place that we've gotten to.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>And I don't, I've been on the internet my entire life, basically.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know what discussion was like before the internet, but I</v>

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<v Speaker 3>can't imagine it was this stupid.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>And the only thing that we can do to try to help</v>

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<v Speaker 3>is say, hey, this is a reality.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>We can only fit so much in our head.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>So if in the course of a discussion or you know, approaching</v>

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<v Speaker 3>an idea, you know, if your context window is big enough, it's</v>

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<v Speaker 3>not going to be just bigger than a discussion.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>It's going to be the last week or the last month of</v>

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<v Speaker 3>discussions, because that's what's actually relevant for whatever's being said right now.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>We all have these limitations and they're gonna be different for different</v>

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<v Speaker 3>people. Some people is gonna be very small and they just can't</v>

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<v Speaker 3>keep up with much of anything If that's how God made you,</v>

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<v Speaker 3>I can't call you names.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>That would be wicked.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>All I can do is encourage you to recognize, yeah, I can't</v>

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<v Speaker 3>keep up.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>And so I'm just gonna step out.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>Because I can't in good conscience judge these matters because I'm not</v>

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<v Speaker 3>entirely sure what's going on here.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>That is an entirely moral and licit position.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>It's one that we should hear a lot more of, because it</v>

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<v Speaker 3>applies to a lot more people than think.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>We have to get away from the notion that I voted, I</v>

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<v Speaker 3>posted, my conscience is clean.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>That's not a good place to be.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>And it causes problems when we try to tackle complicated subjects because</v>

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<v Speaker 3>the complexity is not because of some intricacy of interlocking parts.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>It's just it's big.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>We're going to talk about 2,500 years of church history.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>That's a lot to cover.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>And all of those pieces are interlocking, they're also sequential.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>So as we go through them one by one, it's a simple</v>

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<v Speaker 3>case to make.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>But when you get out to the twenty five hundred year market,</v>

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<v Speaker 3>like I can't I can't fit all that in my head, which</v>

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<v Speaker 3>is why I said hanging to explicitly ask people, write down your</v>

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<v Speaker 3>objections. Don't forget the things that are confusing.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>And I think that at the end of that episode, we will</v>

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<v Speaker 3>have either answered those questions to your satisfaction, or in most cases,</v>

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<v Speaker 3>you'll realize that the question wasn't really all that relevant.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>It seemed important at the time, but once you have the fuller</v>

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<v Speaker 3>picture, maybe it just doesn't matter all that much.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>The Book of Lamentations was written by the prophet Jeremiah in approximately</v>

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<v Speaker 2>five eighty seven BC, right around there, depending on how you number</v>

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<v Speaker 2>some of the years.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>And the book is a poetic lament about the destruction of Jerusalem</v>

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<v Speaker 2>in about five eighty six or five eighty seven BC by the</v>

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<v Speaker 2>Babylonians. Of course, as a punishment from God for the apostasy of</v>

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<v Speaker 2>the southern kingdom.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>The northern kingdom Israel had already been destroyed at this point.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>And so in the fifth chapter of this book, one of the</v>

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<v Speaker 2>lines, the fourteenth verse, the old men have left the city gate.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>Now for some that may seem like a strange statement.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>You may not recognize what that's saying.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>But tied into what Woe was saying about democracy.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>Historically how many matters were handled was the old men of the</v>

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<v Speaker 2>city, would meet together in the gate and discuss them.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>If you had a problem you would take it to the elders</v>

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<v Speaker 2>at the gate and they would render a decision.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>That's how things were conducted because there is a certain sort of</v>

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<v Speaker 2>wisdom, a degree of wisdom that comes with old age.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>It is at least supposed to, obviously not all of the elderly</v>

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<v Speaker 2>are wise, but there is wisdom that comes along with length of</v>

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<v Speaker 2>years. This is sort of the inversion of what happens with democracy.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>Because by and large, democracy is simply a melee, it is a</v>

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<v Speaker 2>free-for-all, and you have everyone participating, so-called, regardless of the level of</v>

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<v Speaker 2>information, regardless of the level of experience, and yes, experience does count</v>

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<v Speaker 2>for something, regardless of all of these things that were considered important</v>

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<v Speaker 2>historically, and that are considered important in Scripture, Scripture doesn't condemn the</v>

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<v Speaker 2>old men standing in the gate to render decisions.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>In fact, Scripture goes the opposite direction you can think of Leviticus.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>You shall stand up before the gray head and honor the face</v>

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<v Speaker 2>of an old man.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>One of the roles of those who have lived a long life</v>

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<v Speaker 2>and gained this wisdom is to render solid counsel.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>That is not what democracy does.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>It does the exact opposite of that.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>In fact, if you can just gin up support among the youth,</v>

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<v Speaker 2>there's a pretty good chance you can win certain elections.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>It may be that you have completely and entirely deceived them because</v>

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<v Speaker 2>they don't have this necessary context of a long of a long</v>

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<v Speaker 2>life, this wisdom that is gained through length of years, and so</v>

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<v Speaker 2>perhaps you win the democratic contest.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>But that's not a good thing, and we see the same thing</v>

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<v Speaker 2>happening all over the place in our society, social media is obviously</v>

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<v Speaker 2>one of the great examples.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>This isn't to say that the youth shouldn't have a say, that</v>

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<v Speaker 2>their voice shouldn't be heard, but it's to say that it should</v>

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<v Speaker 2>be tempered by wisdom.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>Because God does highly praise wisdom.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>It is a gift from God.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>It is something that we as Christians, and just as men, should</v>

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<v Speaker 2>value. It's not in the roar of the crowd that you find</v>

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<v Speaker 2>truth, that you find justice, that you find sound conclusions.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>It's not to say that necessarily those things are at odds, because</v>

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<v Speaker 2>of course, the crowd can be led toward the truth almost as</v>

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<v Speaker 2>easily as it can be led toward a lie, even though sometimes</v>

00:25:19.520 --> 00:25:24.480
<v Speaker 2>lies are more pleasing in their presentation, not in their consequences.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>That's how sin tends to work.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>Rather, it is to say that just because the crowd approves of</v>

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<v Speaker 2>something does not mean that that thing is true or correct or</v>

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<v Speaker 2>good or just.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>We often see this playing out in the various public fora that</v>

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<v Speaker 2>we that we now have a society.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>We no longer have a public square, really.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>We have a virtual one.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>And we call it social media.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>It happens to be that different age cohorts have sort of divided</v>

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<v Speaker 2>themselves up among the various platforms.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>Facebook is now the older generation, X is sort of millennials, plus</v>

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<v Speaker 2>or minus a bit, and then you have things like TikTok and</v>

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<v Speaker 2>such that are the younger generation.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>But by and large, on these platforms, particularly the first and the</v>

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<v Speaker 2>third, you don't necessarily see the truth being what is winning out.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>There's an ongoing raging battle as it were on X for what</v>

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<v Speaker 2>is true and what is not, a little bit more than the</v>

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<v Speaker 2>other platforms.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>But what you see is things that are attractive, that are flashy.</v>

00:26:29.520 --> 00:26:31.840
<v Speaker 2>Those are the things that get the most views.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>It's in fact admittedly one of the reasons that I phrase things</v>

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<v Speaker 2>the way that I do sometimes, because if you don't capture people's</v>

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<v Speaker 2>attention, they are never going to see what you said.</v>

00:26:43.440 --> 00:26:45.920
<v Speaker 2>In fact, you have to do that if you want to get</v>

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<v Speaker 2>out whatever message it happens to be.</v>

00:26:48.720 --> 00:26:52.400
<v Speaker 2>Usually I'm trying to force people to think, which is part of</v>

00:26:52.400 --> 00:26:56.320
<v Speaker 2>the purpose of this episode and the podcast more generally.</v>

00:26:56.320 --> 00:26:59.760
<v Speaker 2>But I word things the way that I do, so that people</v>

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<v Speaker 2>will react to them, because that reaction will at least cause them</v>

00:27:03.680 --> 00:27:08.800
<v Speaker 2>to pause for a second and maybe think about what I said.</v>

00:27:08.800 --> 00:27:09.840
<v Speaker 2>Which is the goal.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>Hopefully they will think about it, and arrive at some sort of</v>

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<v Speaker 2>conclusion, assess it in a rational fashion, even in a critical fashion,</v>

00:27:17.360 --> 00:27:19.920
<v Speaker 2>instead of just scrolling by it to the next thing that happens</v>

00:27:19.920 --> 00:27:23.440
<v Speaker 2>to be shiny or flashy, which is so often what happens with</v>

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<v Speaker 2>these systems we've built, because basically it's a dopamine treadmill.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>But the issue with</v>

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<v Speaker 2>these sorts of systems, with democracy, with things like that, is that</v>

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<v Speaker 2>we have That we have abandoned the idea of expertise.</v>

00:27:40.960 --> 00:27:44.720
<v Speaker 2>And along with the idea of expertise, we've abandoned, as Wo said,</v>

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<v Speaker 2>accountability. Because what do you have if you are the old men</v>

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<v Speaker 2>standing in the gate?</v>

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<v Speaker 2>Well, you have a certain sort of respectability because you are the</v>

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<v Speaker 2>grey head that Scripture commands us to honor, the men before whom</v>

00:27:59.520 --> 00:28:03.520
<v Speaker 2>you are supposed to rise, which is to honor these men.</v>

00:28:03.520 --> 00:28:07.200
<v Speaker 2>But at the same time you have a degree of accountability.</v>

00:28:07.200 --> 00:28:10.160
<v Speaker 2>Not just because of the fact that you are an elder and</v>

00:28:10.160 --> 00:28:13.440
<v Speaker 2>you are serving in that office, you're in that position, but also</v>

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<v Speaker 2>because you are in a very real sense the ones guiding this</v>

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<v Speaker 2>city. And if you guide it poorly, the consequences are disastrous for</v>

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<v Speaker 2>you and for your family and for everyone who lives in your</v>

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<v Speaker 2>city. In other words, your neighbors, you have a duty, by virtue</v>

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<v Speaker 2>of that office, to render correct decisions.</v>

00:28:34.800 --> 00:28:39.840
<v Speaker 2>Incidentally, that also means that you have a prior duty not to</v>

00:28:39.840 --> 00:28:42.160
<v Speaker 2>seek or to hold that office if you have If you do</v>

00:28:42.160 --> 00:28:45.280
<v Speaker 2>not have the capacity to render those proper decisions.</v>

00:28:45.280 --> 00:28:49.920
<v Speaker 2>Again, democracy subverts this because the only thing that is considered good</v>

00:28:49.920 --> 00:28:54.240
<v Speaker 2>is voting, and the only thing that is considered bad is being</v>

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<v Speaker 2>precluded from voting, being excluded from the decision.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>Well some men should be excluded from making these decisions, because some</v>

00:29:02.480 --> 00:29:06.000
<v Speaker 2>men are in fact incompetent to make certain decisions.</v>

00:29:06.000 --> 00:29:09.520
<v Speaker 2>An example that I will often use because it's rather visceral and</v>

00:29:09.520 --> 00:29:13.440
<v Speaker 2>it gets the point across quite clearly, if you need open heart</v>

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<v Speaker 2>surgery, you are not going to go down to the bus stop</v>

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<v Speaker 2>and take a poll as to what method should be used or</v>

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<v Speaker 2>how it should be pursued or which sort of products should be</v>

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<v Speaker 2>used in the procedure.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>No, you go to a doctor who is an expert in open</v>

00:29:29.520 --> 00:29:34.560
<v Speaker 2>heart surgery, because the alternative is you're probably going to die.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>We all recognize that expertise exists in many fields.</v>

00:29:39.360 --> 00:29:42.880
<v Speaker 2>If you want a new suit, you're probably going to go to</v>

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<v Speaker 2>a tailor, not an auto mechanic.</v>

00:29:45.760 --> 00:29:49.040
<v Speaker 2>Inversely, if your car has a problem, you are probably going to</v>

00:29:49.040 --> 00:29:52.240
<v Speaker 2>go to the auto mechanic, not a tailor.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>We recognize that this expertise exists in all sorts of fields, and</v>

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<v Speaker 2>yet because of the propaganda for democracy, We have been trained to</v>

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<v Speaker 2>reject expertise in matters of politics, which is really what we're discussing.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>This is the umbrella term, the large sense of politics.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>And so we've been told that no, every opinion is relevant, every</v>

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<v Speaker 2>opinion is of equal weight, of equal value with regard to political</v>

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<v Speaker 2>questions. And that's simply not true.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>Because there are men who have dedicated their lives and their talents</v>

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<v Speaker 2>to these things, and men who have been given certain gifts by</v>

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<v Speaker 2>God, and are able to render good decisions.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>Whereas many men, most men in fact are not able to do</v>

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<v Speaker 2>so. But the fundamental conceit of democracy is that every man has</v>

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<v Speaker 2>an equally valid opinion, and that is simply not true.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>It is particularly not true in politics.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>Now, of course, there is some nuance with this when it comes</v>

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<v Speaker 2>to theological questions, because theologically speaking, the same thing is true.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>Not all men have the same level of aptitude, not all men</v>

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<v Speaker 2>have been given the same gifts.</v>

00:31:06.480 --> 00:31:11.600
<v Speaker 2>Some men are much more competent theologically than others.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>That is simply a truth.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>However, every man needs to get certain theological questions</v>

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<v Speaker 2>right. Now we happen to have safeguards in place, which is great</v>

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<v Speaker 2>news. We call them the confessions.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>And in fact, the confessions and the creeds, I mean both of</v>

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<v Speaker 2>those when I say confessions.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>You should know those.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>You should hold those dear, you should hold to those, you should</v>

00:31:39.280 --> 00:31:42.800
<v Speaker 2>cling to those, because those are the guardrails and any man should</v>

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<v Speaker 2>be able to Should be able to understand at least the major</v>

00:31:46.800 --> 00:31:50.400
<v Speaker 2>confessions, the major creeds of the church.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>Now there are going to be many other issues that most men</v>

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<v Speaker 2>will not be able to understand.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>The communication of attributes is fairly complicated, is fairly nuanced.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>Most men are not going to thoroughly understand that issue, or even</v>

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<v Speaker 2>why it necessarily matters.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>But do you have to understand it to be saved?</v>

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<v Speaker 2>The answer is no.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>If you read, believe, and confess the creeds, that is sufficient.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>But it doesn't mean that these other theological issues are unimportant.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>It simply means that you don't necessarily have to have an opinion</v>

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<v Speaker 2>on them.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>It is entirely fine to simply say I don't know.</v>

00:32:33.200 --> 00:32:35.680
<v Speaker 2>Or even to say I don't care.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>Now for some of these issues, perhaps it is worthy of caring</v>

00:32:39.360 --> 00:32:42.800
<v Speaker 2>about them, but if you don't have the capacity, then just simply</v>

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<v Speaker 2>say I don't know.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>That is a fine answer.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>It is something that Woe and I are perfectly willing to say</v>

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<v Speaker 2>Willing to say on subjects about which we don't know that much.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>If you ask me a question about quantum chemistry, I'm probably going</v>

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<v Speaker 2>to tell you I don't know, because I don't know that much</v>

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<v Speaker 2>about that subject.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>It is not my area of expertise.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>And I don't consider that I should have an opinion on absolutely</v>

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<v Speaker 2>everything. In fact, I have opinions, I have positions only on those</v>

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<v Speaker 2>things about which I know something.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>Now of course I'm not talking about just matters of taste, because</v>

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<v Speaker 2>certainly you can have an opinion with regard to taste, so food</v>

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<v Speaker 2>or even clothing, and not necessarily be an expert in either of</v>

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<v Speaker 2>those things.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>That's a different matter.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>We're talking about matters of truth.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>When it comes to matters of truth, whether it is a theological</v>

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<v Speaker 2>truth or a mathematical truth, or a truth in chemistry or physics,</v>

00:33:38.720 --> 00:33:39.600
<v Speaker 2>whatever it happens to be</v>

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<v Speaker 2>You don't necessarily have to have an opinion if you don't know</v>

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<v Speaker 2>anything about it.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>So I have positions theologically, because I understand theology.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>I have put in the time and effort to understand the subject,</v>

00:33:53.200 --> 00:33:56.480
<v Speaker 2>and God has given me certain gifts so that that time and</v>

00:33:56.480 --> 00:33:58.720
<v Speaker 2>effort were not wasted.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>However, I don't have those sorts of opinions with regard to every</v>

00:34:04.080 --> 00:34:07.120
<v Speaker 2>other field, and so you will notice if you look at the</v>

00:34:07.120 --> 00:34:10.080
<v Speaker 2>comments that I have made, whether it's on X or elsewhere here</v>

00:34:10.080 --> 00:34:15.840
<v Speaker 2>on the podcast, I generally do not speak about most subjects.</v>

00:34:15.840 --> 00:34:19.200
<v Speaker 2>Now partly it's because they're not subjects that are necessarily fit for</v>

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<v Speaker 2>this podcast, but it's also because I don't have an opinion on</v>

00:34:23.200 --> 00:34:26.000
<v Speaker 2>them, I don't have a position on them, and neither does Woe</v>

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<v Speaker 2>for many of them.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>Because we aren't experts in those things.</v>

00:34:29.920 --> 00:34:33.040
<v Speaker 2>Yes, I recognize that I talked about biology and I've talked about</v>

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<v Speaker 2>psychology in previous episodes, but I actually do have sufficient training and</v>

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<v Speaker 2>knowledge in those fields to speak on them to the extent that</v>

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<v Speaker 2>I did.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not going to go beyond</v>

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<v Speaker 2>that. Because I don't think that they should be democratized.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think that I should have a say on things about</v>

00:34:53.440 --> 00:34:55.600
<v Speaker 2>which I don't know anything.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>The fundamental problem with democracy</v>

00:34:58.720 --> 00:35:01.280
<v Speaker 2>is that it says that every man should have a say on</v>

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<v Speaker 2>the political, when vanishingly few men are experts on the political.</v>

00:35:06.880 --> 00:35:12.560
<v Speaker 2>The idea that someone who is eight is eighteen and knows nothing</v>

00:35:12.560 --> 00:35:16.880
<v Speaker 2>about politics, and probably just started reading Marx will say for the</v>

00:35:16.880 --> 00:35:21.280
<v Speaker 2>most extreme example, the idea that that person should have the exact</v>

00:35:21.280 --> 00:35:24.560
<v Speaker 2>same say in politics as a man who has been a statesman</v>

00:35:25.040 --> 00:35:30.000
<v Speaker 2>for twenty years, is utterly and completely absurd, and yet that is</v>

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<v Speaker 2>what democracy advances.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>I want to be very clear.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>Again, I am drawing a very</v>

00:35:40.160 --> 00:35:45.680
<v Speaker 2>not sort of wall between the two, but a strict delineation between</v>

00:35:46.000 --> 00:35:50.160
<v Speaker 2>the political and the theological, because I am in fact saying that</v>

00:35:50.160 --> 00:35:54.240
<v Speaker 2>you do indeed have to have opinions on the theological, but only</v>

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<v Speaker 2>in so far as they are the core issues of the faith</v>

00:35:57.600 --> 00:36:00.880
<v Speaker 2>that are contained in and addressed by the creeds, which is to</v>

00:36:00.880 --> 00:36:04.320
<v Speaker 2>say the things you need to know to be saved The other</v>

00:36:04.320 --> 00:36:09.760
<v Speaker 2>things the tangential, the ancillary issues, not all of them ancillary, but</v>

00:36:09.760 --> 00:36:13.440
<v Speaker 2>some, you do not need to have an opinion on those.</v>

00:36:13.440 --> 00:36:16.720
<v Speaker 2>On the other hand, with the political, most men do not need</v>

00:36:16.720 --> 00:36:19.200
<v Speaker 2>to have opinions on the political.</v>

00:36:19.200 --> 00:36:21.920
<v Speaker 2>Because it is outside their area of expertise.</v>

00:36:21.920 --> 00:36:26.240
<v Speaker 2>And it is something that, if they involve themselves, they are probably</v>

00:36:26.240 --> 00:36:28.320
<v Speaker 2>going to be doing it to the detriment of their Of their</v>

00:36:28.320 --> 00:36:30.800
<v Speaker 2>neighbor and to the detriment of themselves.</v>

00:36:30.800 --> 00:36:35.200
<v Speaker 2>Because if you in fact involve yourself in something, it is incumbent</v>

00:36:35.200 --> 00:36:38.320
<v Speaker 2>on you to have a certain degree of competence.</v>

00:36:38.320 --> 00:36:41.920
<v Speaker 2>Because if you don't have that competence, you are inflicting harm on</v>

00:36:41.920 --> 00:36:45.280
<v Speaker 2>others, which is to say that you are sinning.</v>

00:36:45.280 --> 00:36:49.920
<v Speaker 2>You should not involve yourself in things about which you do not</v>

00:36:49.920 --> 00:36:54.560
<v Speaker 2>have sufficient knowledge to make an accurate assessment.</v>

00:36:54.560 --> 00:36:57.920
<v Speaker 2>To engage in a way that is actually helpful to others instead</v>

00:36:57.920 --> 00:37:00.320
<v Speaker 2>of harmful to them.</v>

00:37:00.320 --> 00:37:06.400
<v Speaker 2>Which is why the very idea of mass democracy, specifically mass democracy</v>

00:37:06.480 --> 00:37:10.640
<v Speaker 2>as the worst example, is not only absurd but wicked.</v>

00:37:10.640 --> 00:37:14.160
<v Speaker 2>It is an openly evil thing because it asks those who are</v>

00:37:14.160 --> 00:37:19.120
<v Speaker 2>least suited to make decisions, to make those very decisions, and to</v>

00:37:19.120 --> 00:37:22.000
<v Speaker 2>inflict harm on their neighbor, and in fact to feel like they</v>

00:37:22.000 --> 00:37:24.400
<v Speaker 2>have done a good work in doing so.</v>

00:37:24.400 --> 00:37:27.600
<v Speaker 2>Because all of the propaganda tells you that if you go and</v>

00:37:27.600 --> 00:37:31.200
<v Speaker 2>vote, you've done a good thing, it's your civic duty, which is</v>

00:37:31.200 --> 00:37:35.040
<v Speaker 2>incidentally how we used to run the calculation in political science for</v>

00:37:35.040 --> 00:37:38.960
<v Speaker 2>how voting was rational, no longer the case, now it's that you</v>

00:37:38.960 --> 00:37:41.600
<v Speaker 2>feel good, and I wish I were kidding, but that is actually</v>

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<v Speaker 2>what the modern literature says it's the warm fuzzy feeling you get</v>

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<v Speaker 2>from participating.</v>

00:37:46.640 --> 00:37:50.480
<v Speaker 2>But the propaganda tells you that this is something you should do</v>

00:37:50.560 --> 00:37:54.560
<v Speaker 2>and it's a good thing and that you've done this great and</v>

00:37:54.560 --> 00:37:57.920
<v Speaker 2>wonderful work if you go and vote.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>And that's simply not the case if you don't know why you</v>

00:38:01.760 --> 00:38:05.440
<v Speaker 2>voted that way, why you should vote that way, why you should</v>

00:38:05.440 --> 00:38:07.360
<v Speaker 2>not have voted another way.</v>

00:38:07.360 --> 00:38:11.520
<v Speaker 2>Now of course all of this comes with the practical caveat that</v>

00:38:11.520 --> 00:38:16.720
<v Speaker 2>in the modern world we do live under a democratic system presently.</v>

00:38:16.720 --> 00:38:20.240
<v Speaker 2>And so, yes, it does matter if you go out and vote.</v>

00:38:20.240 --> 00:38:22.880
<v Speaker 2>Because it really is just a headcount.</v>

00:38:22.880 --> 00:38:25.680
<v Speaker 2>But you should listen to men who actually know the issues, who</v>

00:38:25.680 --> 00:38:29.360
<v Speaker 2>understand the issues, who can say this is the way you should</v>

00:38:29.360 --> 00:38:31.600
<v Speaker 2>vote and here is why.</v>

00:38:31.600 --> 00:38:36.080
<v Speaker 2>It's important to do that because there's nothing wrong with having leaders.</v>

00:38:36.080 --> 00:38:38.560
<v Speaker 2>Every movement has leaders.</v>

00:38:38.560 --> 00:38:40.480
<v Speaker 2>Every field has leaders.</v>

00:38:40.480 --> 00:38:44.400
<v Speaker 2>And most of the men under those leaders don't understand all of</v>

00:38:44.400 --> 00:38:47.920
<v Speaker 2>the actions or all of the reasons for the actions taken by</v>

00:38:47.920 --> 00:38:49.040
<v Speaker 2>the leader.</v>

00:38:49.040 --> 00:38:50.240
<v Speaker 2>That's entirely fine.</v>

00:38:50.240 --> 00:38:53.760
<v Speaker 2>God created hierarchy everywhere.</v>

00:38:53.760 --> 00:38:56.960
<v Speaker 2>Children don't have to understand why their parents tell them to go</v>

00:38:56.960 --> 00:38:59.600
<v Speaker 2>to bed at a certain time, or why they have to eat</v>

00:38:59.600 --> 00:39:03.360
<v Speaker 2>their vegetables, or any of a thousand other things they do.</v>

00:39:03.600 --> 00:39:07.040
<v Speaker 2>But it's good if they do them, because God has put that</v>

00:39:07.040 --> 00:39:11.120
<v Speaker 2>person in a position of headship, a position of authority, over in</v>

00:39:11.120 --> 00:39:14.720
<v Speaker 2>the case of a father over his children, in order to lead</v>

00:39:14.720 --> 00:39:16.960
<v Speaker 2>them and guide them for their good.</v>

00:39:16.960 --> 00:39:20.240
<v Speaker 2>That's what political leaders are supposed to do.</v>

00:39:20.240 --> 00:39:25.520
<v Speaker 2>It's not a bad thing when someone exercises authority or exercises control,</v>

00:39:25.520 --> 00:39:28.720
<v Speaker 2>because that has been given to that man by God, and he</v>

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<v Speaker 2>is to use it for good.</v>

00:39:30.400 --> 00:39:33.200
<v Speaker 2>Now a man who uses it for evil is no longer acting</v>

00:39:33.200 --> 00:39:36.000
<v Speaker 2>on behalf of God, and that is a different question we've addressed</v>

00:39:36.000 --> 00:39:37.920
<v Speaker 2>in previous podcasts.</v>

00:39:37.920 --> 00:39:42.720
<v Speaker 2>But there is nothing inherently wrongful or evil or bad about power</v>

00:39:42.720 --> 00:39:44.080
<v Speaker 2>and authority.</v>

00:39:44.080 --> 00:39:47.920
<v Speaker 2>In fact, they are goods that come from God, that He has</v>

00:39:47.920 --> 00:39:51.120
<v Speaker 2>given to certain men, and it is incumbent on those men to</v>

00:39:51.120 --> 00:39:55.440
<v Speaker 2>exercise them in accord with God's desires.</v>

00:39:55.440 --> 00:40:02.160
<v Speaker 2>When we look at a system like democracy, which instead of recognizing</v>

00:40:02.160 --> 00:40:07.040
<v Speaker 2>the natural hierarchy that God has built into his creation, including among</v>

00:40:07.040 --> 00:40:13.200
<v Speaker 2>men, and rejects that, which is what democracy does, instead of looking</v>

00:40:13.200 --> 00:40:18.080
<v Speaker 2>at that hierarchy, looking at the design of the system created by</v>

00:40:18.080 --> 00:40:22.560
<v Speaker 2>God, and recognizing that natural conclusions flow from it, then we that</v>

00:40:22.560 --> 00:40:26.160
<v Speaker 2>we should organize our society in a certain way.</v>

00:40:26.160 --> 00:40:29.600
<v Speaker 2>If you reject those things, you wind up with worse outcomes, and</v>

00:40:29.600 --> 00:40:32.640
<v Speaker 2>not only do you wind up with worse outcomes, but you wind</v>

00:40:32.640 --> 00:40:36.480
<v Speaker 2>up harming your neighbor, you wind up with actively evil outcomes.</v>

00:40:36.640 --> 00:40:40.480
<v Speaker 2>Because the system itself is the problem.</v>

00:40:40.480 --> 00:40:43.600
<v Speaker 2>And again to tie it back into the discussions that we're having</v>

00:40:43.760 --> 00:40:49.040
<v Speaker 2>and leading into the Septuagint episode, the same thing is true with</v>

00:40:49.040 --> 00:40:51.200
<v Speaker 2>regard to most discussions.</v>

00:40:51.840 --> 00:40:56.000
<v Speaker 2>Because there are going to be men who understand the issues, and</v>

00:40:56.000 --> 00:40:58.480
<v Speaker 2>there are going to be men who do not understand the issues,</v>

00:40:58.480 --> 00:41:01.120
<v Speaker 2>and there's going to be a spectrum, because there are men who</v>

00:41:01.520 --> 00:41:04.240
<v Speaker 2>are experts in the topics being discussed, and there are men who</v>

00:41:04.240 --> 00:41:06.240
<v Speaker 2>know nothing about them.</v>

00:41:06.240 --> 00:41:10.800
<v Speaker 2>Not all of those men on that spectrum should have equal say.</v>

00:41:10.800 --> 00:41:14.160
<v Speaker 2>Because the men who are experts, the men who know more about</v>

00:41:14.160 --> 00:41:18.240
<v Speaker 2>subjects should have a greater say, and in fact the men who</v>

00:41:18.240 --> 00:41:22.160
<v Speaker 2>know nothing should remain silent, because that is the right thing to</v>

00:41:22.160 --> 00:41:24.640
<v Speaker 2>do when you know nothing about the subject.</v>

00:41:24.640 --> 00:41:28.080
<v Speaker 2>Now if you happen to have a reasonable question, that's a different</v>

00:41:28.080 --> 00:41:31.360
<v Speaker 2>matter. You can ask questions, of course.</v>

00:41:31.360 --> 00:41:34.320
<v Speaker 2>But the man who knows nothing about a subject should not stand</v>

00:41:34.320 --> 00:41:37.520
<v Speaker 2>up and say, well, I think we should do this, because he</v>

00:41:37.520 --> 00:41:40.880
<v Speaker 2>has no reason to advance the position.</v>

00:41:40.880 --> 00:41:46.480
<v Speaker 2>The men who have the knowledge also have a duty to use</v>

00:41:46.480 --> 00:41:48.560
<v Speaker 2>it in a godly fashion.</v>

00:41:48.560 --> 00:41:52.320
<v Speaker 2>Again, this is tying into so many episodes we've done, and there's</v>

00:41:52.320 --> 00:41:55.440
<v Speaker 2>a sort of irony here that I brought up with Wo while</v>

00:41:55.440 --> 00:41:57.520
<v Speaker 2>we were discussing the topics.</v>

00:41:57.520 --> 00:42:01.520
<v Speaker 2>The fact that we're doing context window is the ninety-ninth episode.</v>

00:42:01.520 --> 00:42:05.040
<v Speaker 2>Because in a very real way we're drawing on so many previous</v>

00:42:05.040 --> 00:42:09.360
<v Speaker 2>episodes that the entirety of the corpus of the podcast is the</v>

00:42:09.360 --> 00:42:12.400
<v Speaker 2>context window of this episode.</v>

00:42:12.400 --> 00:42:15.680
<v Speaker 2>Is the context window for the things that we are saying, the</v>

00:42:15.680 --> 00:42:19.040
<v Speaker 2>positions we're advancing, and indeed what we will be doing in the</v>

00:42:19.040 --> 00:42:21.520
<v Speaker 2>Septuagint series.</v>

00:42:21.520 --> 00:42:24.720
<v Speaker 2>Now we're not saying that you have to know absolutely everything we</v>

00:42:24.720 --> 00:42:28.880
<v Speaker 2>have said in every single podcast, thus far, in every episode thus</v>

00:42:28.880 --> 00:42:33.040
<v Speaker 2>far, but it's certainly helpful if you remember the contours and the</v>

00:42:33.040 --> 00:42:34.000
<v Speaker 2>major points.</v>

00:42:34.000 --> 00:42:36.560
<v Speaker 2>And again, it's one of the reasons that we tend to repeat</v>

00:42:36.560 --> 00:42:38.720
<v Speaker 2>the things that we say.</v>

00:42:38.720 --> 00:42:43.520
<v Speaker 2>Because if we repeat them, you are more likely to retain them.</v>

00:42:43.520 --> 00:42:47.040
<v Speaker 2>That's not an indictment, that's not it shouldn't be heard as an</v>

00:42:47.040 --> 00:42:49.280
<v Speaker 2>insult, it shouldn't received as an insult.</v>

00:42:49.280 --> 00:42:51.680
<v Speaker 2>That is simply how the human mind works.</v>

00:42:51.680 --> 00:42:54.960
<v Speaker 2>It's how my mind works, it's how Woe's mind works, it's how</v>

00:42:54.960 --> 00:42:57.600
<v Speaker 2>the mind of every single man ever to live works.</v>

00:42:57.600 --> 00:43:01.040
<v Speaker 2>The way that you memorize things is repetition.</v>

00:43:01.040 --> 00:43:03.600
<v Speaker 2>I hope we would all remember that from school.</v>

00:43:03.600 --> 00:43:06.080
<v Speaker 2>If you learned a foreign language, one of the ways that you</v>

00:43:06.080 --> 00:43:10.240
<v Speaker 2>learn it is rote memorization, at least for that core vocabulary, which</v>

00:43:10.240 --> 00:43:11.280
<v Speaker 2>is just repetition.</v>

00:43:11.280 --> 00:43:14.160
<v Speaker 2>It's flashcards and looking at it in English and then the other</v>

00:43:14.160 --> 00:43:16.560
<v Speaker 2>language. That's how we learn.</v>

00:43:16.560 --> 00:43:18.960
<v Speaker 2>It's one of the reasons, it's one of the core reasons that</v>

00:43:18.960 --> 00:43:22.320
<v Speaker 2>we repeat things so many times in these episodes.</v>

00:43:22.320 --> 00:43:25.520
<v Speaker 2>Because we want you to remember the key points.</v>

00:43:25.520 --> 00:43:27.360
<v Speaker 2>Because otherwise why are you here?</v>

00:43:27.440 --> 00:43:29.840
<v Speaker 2>And otherwise why are we here?</v>

00:43:30.080 --> 00:43:35.040
<v Speaker 2>If we're just talking and you aren't actually listening or learning anything,</v>

00:43:35.040 --> 00:43:37.200
<v Speaker 2>we're both wasting our time.</v>

00:43:37.200 --> 00:43:39.440
<v Speaker 2>We don't want to waste your time and we don't want to</v>

00:43:39.440 --> 00:43:40.800
<v Speaker 2>waste our own time.</v>

00:43:40.800 --> 00:43:44.240
<v Speaker 2>And so we hope that you take away from these episodes the</v>

00:43:44.240 --> 00:43:47.600
<v Speaker 2>core points that we're making in them, which again is why we</v>

00:43:47.600 --> 00:43:48.800
<v Speaker 2>repeat them.</v>

00:43:48.800 --> 00:43:52.800
<v Speaker 2>Because if it's repeated three, four, five times, you have a much</v>

00:43:52.800 --> 00:43:56.960
<v Speaker 2>better chance of remembering it than if it's said once in passing.</v>

00:43:56.960 --> 00:44:00.160
<v Speaker 2>And this is not something, again, that is unique to us, that</v>

00:44:00.160 --> 00:44:04.960
<v Speaker 2>is unique to really anything when it comes to human endeavors.</v>

00:44:04.960 --> 00:44:06.800
<v Speaker 2>Read Scripture.</v>

00:44:06.800 --> 00:44:11.440
<v Speaker 2>Things are repeated two, three times, in the same paragraph sometimes in</v>

00:44:11.440 --> 00:44:14.800
<v Speaker 2>Scripture. God knows how the human mind works.</v>

00:44:14.800 --> 00:44:18.720
<v Speaker 2>God inspired Moses, particularly, if you're looking at the first five books</v>

00:44:18.720 --> 00:44:24.080
<v Speaker 2>of Scripture, to write the same thing multiple times in short order,</v>

00:44:24.080 --> 00:44:27.680
<v Speaker 2>sometimes spaced, which incidentally we know that spaced repetition is one of</v>

00:44:27.680 --> 00:44:31.600
<v Speaker 2>the best ways to remember things Partly because scripture was meant to</v>

00:44:31.600 --> 00:44:33.040
<v Speaker 2>be read aloud.</v>

00:44:33.040 --> 00:44:35.600
<v Speaker 2>So if you heard something, and then you heard it again a</v>

00:44:35.600 --> 00:44:38.800
<v Speaker 2>minute later, and then again a couple minutes after that, you had</v>

00:44:38.800 --> 00:44:42.640
<v Speaker 2>a better chance of retaining it, which is vitally important when something</v>

00:44:42.640 --> 00:44:47.120
<v Speaker 2>is delivered orally, which is exactly obviously what we're doing with a</v>

00:44:47.120 --> 00:44:50.640
<v Speaker 2>podcast, unless you happen to be one of the people who reads</v>

00:44:50.640 --> 00:44:53.200
<v Speaker 2>the transcript instead of listens.</v>

00:44:53.200 --> 00:44:57.280
<v Speaker 2>So we repeat things so that you will remember them, because otherwise</v>

00:44:57.440 --> 00:44:58.640
<v Speaker 2>there's no point.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>For us or for you.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>I'm gonna give you a brief lesson on LLMs or AI, and</v>

00:45:06.400 --> 00:45:09.520
<v Speaker 3>the point again is not to nerd out or give you any</v>

00:45:09.520 --> 00:45:11.600
<v Speaker 3>reason to care about technology.</v>

00:45:11.600 --> 00:45:14.160
<v Speaker 3>This is an example I'm giving, as I said, this is how</v>

00:45:14.160 --> 00:45:15.280
<v Speaker 3>our brains work.</v>

00:45:15.280 --> 00:45:18.160
<v Speaker 3>Just Corey was talking about repetition.</v>

00:45:18.160 --> 00:45:22.400
<v Speaker 3>The reason that I have found LLM's particularly interesting is I'm learning</v>

00:45:22.400 --> 00:45:23.920
<v Speaker 3>um more about myself.</v>

00:45:23.920 --> 00:45:25.360
<v Speaker 3>I'm learning more about you.</v>

00:45:25.360 --> 00:45:30.080
<v Speaker 3>I'm learning more about being human by watching how they're trying to</v>

00:45:30.080 --> 00:45:34.080
<v Speaker 3>tune these machines to think like humans and think it's in scare</v>

00:45:34.160 --> 00:45:38.000
<v Speaker 3>quotes there because it's not thought the way we think of thought,</v>

00:45:38.000 --> 00:45:40.800
<v Speaker 3>but there is something akin to reasoning.</v>

00:45:40.800 --> 00:45:44.560
<v Speaker 3>And there are places where it's absolutely an effective reasoning engine.</v>

00:45:44.560 --> 00:45:46.560
<v Speaker 3>There's an example I'll give here in a little bit.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>So when we're talking about LLMs and we're talking about context window,</v>

00:45:53.120 --> 00:45:55.920
<v Speaker 3>I'm just going to give you a few brief technical details.</v>

00:45:55.920 --> 00:45:57.680
<v Speaker 3>Again, this is about us.</v>

00:45:57.680 --> 00:46:02.560
<v Speaker 3>What they're trying to do with these machines, with these robots, is</v>

00:46:02.560 --> 00:46:06.240
<v Speaker 3>to fit a version of the human brain in a software so</v>

00:46:06.240 --> 00:46:07.760
<v Speaker 3>you can run on a computer.</v>

00:46:07.760 --> 00:46:09.440
<v Speaker 3>There are two elements to that.</v>

00:46:09.440 --> 00:46:12.160
<v Speaker 3>There is the training of the model, which is going to be</v>

00:46:12.160 --> 00:46:15.360
<v Speaker 3>based on the corpus of whatever data they can get their hands</v>

00:46:15.360 --> 00:46:19.360
<v Speaker 3>on. And for a human, the comparable notion would be basically your</v>

00:46:19.360 --> 00:46:20.240
<v Speaker 3>entire life.</v>

00:46:20.240 --> 00:46:24.000
<v Speaker 3>Everything you have ever been exposed to, everything you've ever learned, everything</v>

00:46:24.000 --> 00:46:27.760
<v Speaker 3>you've ever studied gets compressed into your brain somehow and some of</v>

00:46:27.760 --> 00:46:28.720
<v Speaker 3>it sticks.</v>

00:46:28.720 --> 00:46:32.640
<v Speaker 3>With an LLM, the model that you will run, and that's why</v>

00:46:32.640 --> 00:46:35.680
<v Speaker 3>they have specific names, some of them I've downloaded and I run</v>

00:46:35.680 --> 00:46:38.160
<v Speaker 3>locally, one of the ones that I use the most often, because</v>

00:46:38.080 --> 00:46:41.680
<v Speaker 3>it's the best right now, is Llama three point three.</v>

00:46:41.680 --> 00:46:43.920
<v Speaker 3>In one month it's going to be obsolete because they're about to</v>

00:46:43.920 --> 00:46:45.120
<v Speaker 3>release Llama four.</v>

00:46:45.120 --> 00:46:47.040
<v Speaker 3>It's going to be way better, it's probably going to be smaller,</v>

00:46:47.040 --> 00:46:49.440
<v Speaker 3>faster, it's going to do everything better.</v>

00:46:49.440 --> 00:46:52.400
<v Speaker 3>But the underlying technology is more or less the same.</v>

00:46:52.400 --> 00:46:56.640
<v Speaker 3>They take a huge corpus of whatever information they could get without</v>

00:46:56.720 --> 00:47:01.840
<v Speaker 3>regard to copyright, they stuff it into a file, they perform lots</v>

00:47:01.840 --> 00:47:04.320
<v Speaker 3>of complicated math on it to essentially</v>

00:47:05.520 --> 00:47:09.360
<v Speaker 3>summarize all human knowledge as best they can.</v>

00:47:09.360 --> 00:47:11.440
<v Speaker 3>And it works incredibly well.</v>

00:47:11.440 --> 00:47:14.000
<v Speaker 3>I when I was talking about this stuff a year and two</v>

00:47:14.000 --> 00:47:16.800
<v Speaker 3>years and three years ago, I didn't think it was going to</v>

00:47:16.800 --> 00:47:18.160
<v Speaker 3>get as far as it has today.</v>

00:47:18.160 --> 00:47:20.080
<v Speaker 3>They're doing a really good job.</v>

00:47:20.080 --> 00:47:23.280
<v Speaker 3>And that's both a wonderful thing and a terrifying thing.</v>

00:47:23.280 --> 00:47:27.360
<v Speaker 3>But for today's episode, we're just talking about kind of the machinery.</v>

00:47:27.360 --> 00:47:30.960
<v Speaker 3>Once that model is locked in, once you have your you know</v>

00:47:31.120 --> 00:47:35.760
<v Speaker 3>Lama 3, the one that I run is about 70 gigabytes, that</v>

00:47:35.920 --> 00:47:38.240
<v Speaker 3>is a fixed thing, unlike your brain.</v>

00:47:38.240 --> 00:47:41.120
<v Speaker 3>Your brain is always accumulating new knowledge.</v>

00:47:41.120 --> 00:47:45.280
<v Speaker 3>These models, when they're locked in for training, they're done.</v>

00:47:45.280 --> 00:47:47.360
<v Speaker 3>They don't change anymore.</v>

00:47:47.360 --> 00:47:49.040
<v Speaker 3>And then they're run at runtime.</v>

00:47:49.040 --> 00:47:50.320
<v Speaker 3>And so that's the difference.</v>

00:47:50.320 --> 00:47:53.440
<v Speaker 3>When you have a brain, your brain's always on, it's always learning,</v>

00:47:53.440 --> 00:47:54.880
<v Speaker 3>and it's always running.</v>

00:47:54.880 --> 00:47:58.640
<v Speaker 3>So you're talking, you're thinking, you're ingesting, whatever.</v>

00:47:58.640 --> 00:47:59.280
<v Speaker 3>You are</v>

00:48:00.240 --> 00:48:03.840
<v Speaker 3>not discrete parts the way this is.</v>

00:48:03.840 --> 00:48:07.360
<v Speaker 3>When a model like Llama 3 or Llama 4 gets locked in,</v>

00:48:07.360 --> 00:48:08.960
<v Speaker 3>it's not going to change anymore.</v>

00:48:08.960 --> 00:48:13.040
<v Speaker 3>No new information can be added to it, which is what makes</v>

00:48:13.040 --> 00:48:17.360
<v Speaker 3>the conversational context a very different aspect of how they operate.</v>

00:48:17.360 --> 00:48:19.360
<v Speaker 3>And that's when they're actually being used.</v>

00:48:19.360 --> 00:48:22.720
<v Speaker 3>When all this information is stuffed into the model and it's put</v>

00:48:22.720 --> 00:48:27.600
<v Speaker 3>in a file, then your LLM provider, maybe if you're running it</v>

00:48:27.600 --> 00:48:32.160
<v Speaker 3>locally, I'm using LM Studio, which is cross-platform, I recommend it if</v>

00:48:32.160 --> 00:48:36.400
<v Speaker 3>you can run it on your machine When you're actually interacting with</v>

00:48:36.400 --> 00:48:41.280
<v Speaker 3>an LLM, the conversation is what has this context window that I</v>

00:48:41.280 --> 00:48:42.640
<v Speaker 3>talked about earlier.</v>

00:48:42.640 --> 00:48:48.000
<v Speaker 3>And the context window is another very distinct aspect of how we</v>

00:48:48.000 --> 00:48:53.440
<v Speaker 3>interact with each other because it's unrelated directly to knowledge in the</v>

00:48:53.440 --> 00:48:54.480
<v Speaker 3>broad sense.</v>

00:48:54.480 --> 00:48:59.600
<v Speaker 3>The context window is just whatever has happened recently.</v>

00:48:59.600 --> 00:49:03.520
<v Speaker 3>And so, say for example, I fire up Llama three, I ask</v>

00:49:03.520 --> 00:49:07.120
<v Speaker 3>it a question about the Septuagint, and it gives me an answer.</v>

00:49:07.120 --> 00:49:09.280
<v Speaker 3>I ask a follow-up question, it gives me another answer, I ask</v>

00:49:09.440 --> 00:49:11.120
<v Speaker 3>another follow-up question.</v>

00:49:11.120 --> 00:49:15.920
<v Speaker 3>The context window for that session, that one chat, is going to</v>

00:49:15.920 --> 00:49:21.040
<v Speaker 3>be whatever conversation has occurred between me and the robot.</v>

00:49:21.040 --> 00:49:25.120
<v Speaker 3>For the duration of that conversation, it has perfect recollection, as I</v>

00:49:25.120 --> 00:49:27.920
<v Speaker 3>said earlier, of everything in the conversation.</v>

00:49:27.920 --> 00:49:30.720
<v Speaker 3>But it knows nothing about any previous conversations.</v>

00:49:30.720 --> 00:49:32.160
<v Speaker 3>Each chat is a separate chat.</v>

00:49:32.160 --> 00:49:34.480
<v Speaker 3>It forgets perfectly every time.</v>

00:49:34.480 --> 00:49:37.360
<v Speaker 3>Because the file, the model, is unchanging.</v>

00:49:37.360 --> 00:49:39.200
<v Speaker 3>It's fixed in space and time.</v>

00:49:39.360 --> 00:49:41.840
<v Speaker 3>Because versioning, it just it doesn't go anywhere.</v>

00:49:41.840 --> 00:49:43.200
<v Speaker 3>It's read-only.</v>

00:49:43.200 --> 00:49:45.040
<v Speaker 3>The conversations are ephemeral.</v>

00:49:45.040 --> 00:49:47.600
<v Speaker 3>So you can have one conversation after another and they don't flow</v>

00:49:47.600 --> 00:49:48.400
<v Speaker 3>into each other.</v>

00:49:48.400 --> 00:49:50.960
<v Speaker 3>And the context window is the limit.</v>

00:49:50.960 --> 00:49:56.400
<v Speaker 3>The reason that the context windows are there is that the inference</v>

00:49:56.400 --> 00:50:00.240
<v Speaker 3>process, which is what this part of the LLM interaction is called,</v>

00:50:00.240 --> 00:50:03.840
<v Speaker 3>is very expensive to get the information back out of that model</v>

00:50:04.080 --> 00:50:08.480
<v Speaker 3>at runtime and then to incorporate new information with your question and</v>

00:50:08.480 --> 00:50:12.320
<v Speaker 3>its answer and your feedback takes a lot of memory.</v>

00:50:12.320 --> 00:50:16.240
<v Speaker 3>It takes additional memory and additional computation and there's a hard limit</v>

00:50:16.240 --> 00:50:19.760
<v Speaker 3>for every model about how much context window they can have.</v>

00:50:19.760 --> 00:50:23.280
<v Speaker 3>As I said earlier, as soon as you exceed the context window</v>

00:50:23.280 --> 00:50:26.640
<v Speaker 3>for your chat, it's going to begin to lose its mind.</v>

00:50:26.640 --> 00:50:29.440
<v Speaker 3>And it's going to do one of a couple things.</v>

00:50:29.440 --> 00:50:34.160
<v Speaker 3>The typical simple solution is truncation, where it will either forget the</v>

00:50:34.160 --> 00:50:37.360
<v Speaker 3>beginning of the conversation or it will forget the middle of the</v>

00:50:37.360 --> 00:50:41.120
<v Speaker 3>conversation. So if it forgets the beginning of the conversation, it'll remember</v>

00:50:41.120 --> 00:50:44.000
<v Speaker 3>the last, you know, thousands of words that you've had back and</v>

00:50:44.000 --> 00:50:48.320
<v Speaker 3>forth, but it won't remember how you started the chat, which can</v>

00:50:48.320 --> 00:50:52.320
<v Speaker 3>cause conversation to get very confusing if you keep going, because once</v>

00:50:52.320 --> 00:50:56.080
<v Speaker 3>it's forgotten how the conversation began, it might start repeating itself or</v>

00:50:56.080 --> 00:51:01.280
<v Speaker 3>it might start talking about totally unrelated things suggested by the most</v>

00:51:01.280 --> 00:51:06.320
<v Speaker 3>recent context, but without regard for the initial context.</v>

00:51:06.320 --> 00:51:10.240
<v Speaker 3>So one of the other methods is truncation in the middle, where</v>

00:51:10.240 --> 00:51:13.280
<v Speaker 3>it will remember the beginning of the conversation, or remember the recent</v>

00:51:13.280 --> 00:51:16.400
<v Speaker 3>part, and it just throws out some portion of the middle because</v>

00:51:16.400 --> 00:51:21.200
<v Speaker 3>that's less likely to influence what it's going to say next.</v>

00:51:21.200 --> 00:51:27.040
<v Speaker 3>Another method, a third method, is key value quantization, where they basically</v>

00:51:27.040 --> 00:51:31.040
<v Speaker 3>compress the conversation in real time the same way that the chat</v>

00:51:31.040 --> 00:51:32.800
<v Speaker 3>itself is compressed.</v>

00:51:32.800 --> 00:51:35.600
<v Speaker 3>And this compression is lossy.</v>

00:51:35.840 --> 00:51:38.480
<v Speaker 3>There are two different types of compression on computers.</v>

00:51:38.480 --> 00:51:40.960
<v Speaker 3>One is lossless and the other is lossy.</v>

00:51:40.960 --> 00:51:42.960
<v Speaker 3>You've all interacted with zip files.</v>

00:51:42.960 --> 00:51:46.960
<v Speaker 3>That's a lossless compression, where you take a file, you zip it,</v>

00:51:46.960 --> 00:51:49.120
<v Speaker 3>it gets a lot smaller, you can email it to somebody, put</v>

00:51:49.120 --> 00:51:50.640
<v Speaker 3>it on a drive or whatever.</v>

00:51:50.640 --> 00:51:53.760
<v Speaker 3>And then when you unzip it, you get exactly the same file.</v>

00:51:53.760 --> 00:51:56.480
<v Speaker 3>Byte for byte, bit for bit, it's identical.</v>

00:51:56.480 --> 00:51:59.520
<v Speaker 3>That's lossless compression.</v>

00:51:59.520 --> 00:52:02.960
<v Speaker 3>The other type of compression is lossy compression.</v>

00:52:02.960 --> 00:52:07.440
<v Speaker 3>This would be things like images, and JPEGs are a good example,</v>

00:52:07.440 --> 00:52:10.880
<v Speaker 3>or audio files, like the one you're listening to now.</v>

00:52:10.880 --> 00:52:15.360
<v Speaker 3>The audio file of this podcast is several gigabytes when Corey is</v>

00:52:15.360 --> 00:52:18.800
<v Speaker 3>editing it because it's uncompressed on his machine.</v>

00:52:18.800 --> 00:52:22.320
<v Speaker 3>When he finishes mastering it and he outputs it for the podcast</v>

00:52:22.320 --> 00:52:25.360
<v Speaker 3>services, it's compressed as an MP4.</v>

00:52:25.360 --> 00:52:31.520
<v Speaker 3>That is a lossy perceptual encoding process where it throws away data,</v>

00:52:31.520 --> 00:52:35.280
<v Speaker 3>but it throws away things that the human ear typically can't hear.</v>

00:52:35.280 --> 00:52:38.960
<v Speaker 3>And some people have noticed that the audio quality on our podcast</v>

00:52:38.960 --> 00:52:41.520
<v Speaker 3>is a lot higher than some others because we use a higher</v>

00:52:41.520 --> 00:52:44.400
<v Speaker 3>bitrate. But even at that it's still compressed.</v>

00:52:44.400 --> 00:52:47.920
<v Speaker 3>And the difference in bitrate is that is literally how much is</v>

00:52:47.920 --> 00:52:49.120
<v Speaker 3>being thrown away.</v>

00:52:49.120 --> 00:52:52.720
<v Speaker 3>The more of the original signal you throw away, the further it</v>

00:52:52.720 --> 00:52:55.680
<v Speaker 3>gets from the purity of the first form.</v>

00:52:55.680 --> 00:53:00.640
<v Speaker 3>So there's no way to reconstruct the original uncompressed version of this</v>

00:53:00.640 --> 00:53:03.440
<v Speaker 3>podcast from the file that you get, but it's close enough that</v>

00:53:03.440 --> 00:53:04.720
<v Speaker 3>it doesn't matter.</v>

00:53:04.720 --> 00:53:08.400
<v Speaker 3>That's pretty much what LLM's try to do with this huge corpus</v>

00:53:08.400 --> 00:53:09.440
<v Speaker 3>of human knowledge.</v>

00:53:09.440 --> 00:53:14.320
<v Speaker 3>They're compressing it by throwing away redundant bits of information, but they</v>

00:53:14.320 --> 00:53:19.200
<v Speaker 3>try to use very fancy methodologies to preserve the relationships between words.</v>

00:53:19.200 --> 00:53:22.000
<v Speaker 3>So So it doesn't throw away anything important.</v>

00:53:22.000 --> 00:53:26.480
<v Speaker 3>And in the middle of a conversation, if an LM quantizes the</v>

00:53:26.480 --> 00:53:30.080
<v Speaker 3>conversation, so it doesn't truncate, but it just starts to compress it.</v>

00:53:30.080 --> 00:53:31.840
<v Speaker 3>It compresses in the same way.</v>

00:53:31.840 --> 00:53:35.120
<v Speaker 3>It starts to throw away things that might be redundant.</v>

00:53:35.120 --> 00:53:37.600
<v Speaker 3>And the end result is that it just gets fuzzier.</v>

00:53:37.600 --> 00:53:39.200
<v Speaker 3>It might work just fine.</v>

00:53:39.200 --> 00:53:40.800
<v Speaker 3>It might work very poorly.</v>

00:53:40.800 --> 00:53:43.520
<v Speaker 3>The longer it goes and the more it has to quantize, the</v>

00:53:43.520 --> 00:53:46.480
<v Speaker 3>more it has to compress, the worse it's going to get because</v>

00:53:46.480 --> 00:53:48.160
<v Speaker 3>the more it's throwing away.</v>

00:53:48.160 --> 00:53:50.720
<v Speaker 3>And this is similar to how the human mind works.</v>

00:53:50.720 --> 00:53:53.920
<v Speaker 3>We don't remember things perfectly, we remember bits and pieces.</v>

00:53:53.920 --> 00:53:57.440
<v Speaker 3>And as Corey said, like typically when we learn, we remember the</v>

00:53:57.440 --> 00:53:58.800
<v Speaker 3>contours of things.</v>

00:53:58.800 --> 00:54:02.240
<v Speaker 3>So you can't reconstruct a conversation, but you have the gist of</v>

00:54:02.240 --> 00:54:02.960
<v Speaker 3>it, hopefully.</v>

00:54:02.960 --> 00:54:05.840
<v Speaker 3>If you're paying attention, even keep up, you have the general idea</v>

00:54:05.840 --> 00:54:09.200
<v Speaker 3>of what was said, you could probably spit back a few things</v>

00:54:09.200 --> 00:54:12.560
<v Speaker 3>that were said, maybe close to verbatim, enough to you get the</v>

00:54:13.040 --> 00:54:14.560
<v Speaker 3>point. And that's sufficient.</v>

00:54:14.560 --> 00:54:17.600
<v Speaker 3>If you get the contours, you don't need the rest.</v>

00:54:17.600 --> 00:54:20.320
<v Speaker 3>And that's one of the beautiful things about the way Gone engineered</v>

00:54:20.320 --> 00:54:21.200
<v Speaker 3>our minds.</v>

00:54:21.200 --> 00:54:24.960
<v Speaker 3>We don't have to be perfect recorders like a camera with with</v>

00:54:25.120 --> 00:54:27.440
<v Speaker 3>perfect recollection of everything all the time.</v>

00:54:27.440 --> 00:54:30.880
<v Speaker 3>That would be almost horrifying for the few people who have it.</v>

00:54:30.880 --> 00:54:32.240
<v Speaker 3>It's kind of hard on 'em.</v>

00:54:32.240 --> 00:54:35.200
<v Speaker 3>It's nice to have some degree of forgetting, but at the same</v>

00:54:35.200 --> 00:54:37.920
<v Speaker 3>time you don't want to forget stuff that's important.</v>

00:54:38.240 --> 00:54:43.520
<v Speaker 3>In the conversation with an LLM in the context window, as long</v>

00:54:43.520 --> 00:54:47.200
<v Speaker 3>as you stay inside that window, and so it's the windows are</v>

00:54:47.280 --> 00:54:49.920
<v Speaker 3>measured in tokens that are basically like pieces of words.</v>

00:54:49.920 --> 00:54:52.080
<v Speaker 3>So you're just talking about in terms of words.</v>

00:54:52.080 --> 00:54:56.800
<v Speaker 3>Say that the window for a model is 100,000 words.</v>

00:54:56.800 --> 00:54:58.720
<v Speaker 3>That's a long conversation.</v>

00:54:58.720 --> 00:55:01.360
<v Speaker 3>That's a longer conversation than you have with most people most of</v>

00:55:01.360 --> 00:55:02.080
<v Speaker 3>the time.</v>

00:55:02.080 --> 00:55:04.800
<v Speaker 3>But it's enough room that you can paste in a document.</v>

00:55:04.800 --> 00:55:07.440
<v Speaker 3>You can ask questions about the document as not too long.</v>

00:55:07.440 --> 00:55:10.160
<v Speaker 3>You can go for a while before it runs out of context.</v>

00:55:10.160 --> 00:55:13.200
<v Speaker 3>And as long as you stay inside the context window of that</v>

00:55:13.200 --> 00:55:16.160
<v Speaker 3>AI, it's gonna remember perfectly.</v>

00:55:16.160 --> 00:55:17.600
<v Speaker 3>People don't work that way.</v>

00:55:17.600 --> 00:55:19.840
<v Speaker 3>But we work similarly.</v>

00:55:19.840 --> 00:55:24.880
<v Speaker 3>What I mean is this, in conversation, one-on-one conversation, not when you're</v>

00:55:24.800 --> 00:55:28.880
<v Speaker 3>talking about the expertise of things you've known forever, just you're sitting</v>

00:55:28.880 --> 00:55:32.560
<v Speaker 3>down cold with a total stranger and you have some back and</v>

00:55:32.560 --> 00:55:35.040
<v Speaker 3>forth where you're getting to know each other.</v>

00:55:35.040 --> 00:55:38.720
<v Speaker 3>If you have no priors, no shared priors with that person, you're</v>

00:55:38.720 --> 00:55:40.960
<v Speaker 3>probably gonna be trying to establish them first of all when you</v>

00:55:40.960 --> 00:55:43.760
<v Speaker 3>try to get to know someone but your context is going to</v>

00:55:43.760 --> 00:55:47.200
<v Speaker 3>be limited to the conversation you're having with each other.</v>

00:55:47.200 --> 00:55:50.720
<v Speaker 3>Your context is going to be limited to what they have said</v>

00:55:50.720 --> 00:55:52.080
<v Speaker 3>and what you have said.</v>

00:55:52.080 --> 00:55:54.960
<v Speaker 3>You don't have any prayer context because you just met them.</v>

00:55:54.960 --> 00:55:57.520
<v Speaker 3>On the other hand, say you met them yesterday, you met somebody</v>

00:55:57.520 --> 00:55:59.600
<v Speaker 3>at the coffee shop, you go back the next day at the</v>

00:55:59.600 --> 00:56:01.520
<v Speaker 3>same time, they're both there.</v>

00:56:01.520 --> 00:56:07.040
<v Speaker 3>If you have a decent memory, your context for today's conversation is</v>

00:56:07.040 --> 00:56:09.280
<v Speaker 3>going to conclude some what you heard yesterday.</v>

00:56:09.280 --> 00:56:11.520
<v Speaker 3>You know, maybe they said that their pet was sick.</v>

00:56:11.520 --> 00:56:14.160
<v Speaker 3>And so today you ask them about their pet.</v>

00:56:14.160 --> 00:56:17.040
<v Speaker 3>And it's not simply it's a biographical detail that oh I know</v>

00:56:17.040 --> 00:56:20.160
<v Speaker 3>that there's a a pet for this person, but they expressed something</v>

00:56:20.160 --> 00:56:23.520
<v Speaker 3>that was important, you remember that, and you incorporate it into today's</v>

00:56:23.520 --> 00:56:28.800
<v Speaker 3>conversation. So your context window is expanded the more you talk to</v>

00:56:28.800 --> 00:56:31.200
<v Speaker 3>them. But you're not going to remember everything perfectly.</v>

00:56:31.200 --> 00:56:32.720
<v Speaker 3>You maybe forget their birthday.</v>

00:56:32.720 --> 00:56:35.440
<v Speaker 3>Some people are really good at that, some people are really bad.</v>

00:56:35.440 --> 00:56:38.320
<v Speaker 3>You're going to remember some details, you're going to forget others.</v>

00:56:38.320 --> 00:56:41.360
<v Speaker 3>And some of that's compressing, and some of it's just it's falling</v>

00:56:41.360 --> 00:56:42.800
<v Speaker 3>out of your context window.</v>

00:56:42.800 --> 00:56:44.400
<v Speaker 3>And that's how people work.</v>

00:56:44.400 --> 00:56:45.520
<v Speaker 3>It's how our minds work.</v>

00:56:45.520 --> 00:56:46.480
<v Speaker 3>It's not a defect.</v>

00:56:46.480 --> 00:56:48.400
<v Speaker 3>It's not, oh, you're stupid.</v>

00:56:48.400 --> 00:56:49.680
<v Speaker 3>You just don't remember everything.</v>

00:56:49.680 --> 00:56:52.640
<v Speaker 3>Why would you remember every single thing about some total stranger, even</v>

00:56:52.640 --> 00:56:53.280
<v Speaker 3>if you liked them?</v>

00:56:53.280 --> 00:56:57.760
<v Speaker 3>Like it's you have more important things to spend your limited faculties</v>

00:56:57.760 --> 00:57:02.000
<v Speaker 3>on. The reason that this is a problem for us as men</v>

00:57:02.160 --> 00:57:06.640
<v Speaker 3>living today is as I framed the beginning of this discussion.</v>

00:57:06.640 --> 00:57:12.160
<v Speaker 3>Because participation itself has become the ultimate moral good, we no longer</v>

00:57:12.160 --> 00:57:16.320
<v Speaker 3>give any regard for how much context we have for any given</v>

00:57:16.320 --> 00:57:19.040
<v Speaker 3>situation before we weigh in.</v>

00:57:19.040 --> 00:57:19.200
<v Speaker 3>So</v>

00:57:20.240 --> 00:57:24.160
<v Speaker 3>you might only have a few pieces of information, particularly when you</v>

00:57:24.160 --> 00:57:27.840
<v Speaker 3>see, say, some online fight, which Corey and I are involved in</v>

00:57:27.840 --> 00:57:29.200
<v Speaker 3>more than most people.</v>

00:57:29.200 --> 00:57:33.120
<v Speaker 3>And most people think that we must be really terrible jerks because</v>

00:57:33.120 --> 00:57:35.600
<v Speaker 3>these fights are always occurring.</v>

00:57:35.600 --> 00:57:40.240
<v Speaker 3>And by itself, that's not an unreasonable conclusion, but what is it</v>

00:57:40.240 --> 00:57:44.480
<v Speaker 3>missing? It's missing every bit of every conversation that we've ever had</v>

00:57:44.480 --> 00:57:48.640
<v Speaker 3>with these people with whom there's some sort of fight or disagreement.</v>

00:57:48.640 --> 00:57:51.280
<v Speaker 3>And as I've said before, I don't want anyone else to care</v>

00:57:51.840 --> 00:57:55.200
<v Speaker 3>about online drama or to feel bad for us because people say</v>

00:57:55.200 --> 00:57:56.000
<v Speaker 3>mean things.</v>

00:57:56.000 --> 00:57:56.640
<v Speaker 3>I don't care.</v>

00:57:56.640 --> 00:57:57.840
<v Speaker 3>I don't want you to care.</v>

00:57:57.840 --> 00:58:02.160
<v Speaker 3>But it is a specific example of someone getting some tiny piece</v>

00:58:02.160 --> 00:58:02.880
<v Speaker 3>of context.</v>

00:58:02.880 --> 00:58:07.520
<v Speaker 3>They see a screenshot of Corey said this and someone else said</v>

00:58:07.520 --> 00:58:09.840
<v Speaker 3>that, and then Corey responded with this.</v>

00:58:09.840 --> 00:58:13.200
<v Speaker 3>And you see that, and your context is limited to you know</v>

00:58:13.600 --> 00:58:18.240
<v Speaker 3>50, 100 words, and you make a profound exacting moral judgment on</v>

00:58:18.320 --> 00:58:21.920
<v Speaker 3>exactly what happened, and you're gonna have a very strongly held opinion,</v>

00:58:21.920 --> 00:58:23.280
<v Speaker 3>maybe for the rest of your life.</v>

00:58:23.280 --> 00:58:25.840
<v Speaker 3>You're gonna think Corey is a terrible guy or he's a great</v>

00:58:25.840 --> 00:58:28.480
<v Speaker 3>guy or whatever, but you don't know what happened before.</v>

00:58:28.480 --> 00:58:30.880
<v Speaker 3>You don't know how the conversation started.</v>

00:58:30.880 --> 00:58:33.360
<v Speaker 3>You don't know if those guys ever talked before.</v>

00:58:33.360 --> 00:58:37.760
<v Speaker 3>You don't know how many times the specific subject that they were</v>

00:58:37.760 --> 00:58:42.240
<v Speaker 3>debating or discussing or arguing has come up in other contexts where</v>

00:58:42.800 --> 00:58:45.840
<v Speaker 3>you know You know, other aspects of what Corey is saying or</v>

00:58:45.840 --> 00:58:47.680
<v Speaker 3>I'm saying it's it's not even about us.</v>

00:58:47.680 --> 00:58:51.280
<v Speaker 3>It's just when we're online, we see these things happening and they're</v>

00:58:51.280 --> 00:58:55.280
<v Speaker 3>drive-bys. You just see something flip by for 30 seconds, you make</v>

00:58:55.280 --> 00:58:58.080
<v Speaker 3>a judgment, and sometimes you weigh in.</v>

00:58:58.080 --> 00:59:02.560
<v Speaker 3>And our admonition here for this is that when your context is</v>

00:59:02.560 --> 00:59:06.800
<v Speaker 3>so small that you really have no idea what's going on, if</v>

00:59:06.800 --> 00:59:10.480
<v Speaker 3>your highest moral good is participation, then yeah, with a clean conscience,</v>

00:59:10.480 --> 00:59:12.400
<v Speaker 3>you're gonna weigh in and say, What a jerk.</v>

00:59:12.400 --> 00:59:13.440
<v Speaker 3>This guy's going to hell.</v>

00:59:13.440 --> 00:59:14.800
<v Speaker 3>Can you believe he said that?</v>

00:59:14.800 --> 00:59:16.400
<v Speaker 3>Which happens all the time.</v>

00:59:16.400 --> 00:59:19.120
<v Speaker 3>And it's completely absurd and it's unchristian.</v>

00:59:19.120 --> 00:59:22.160
<v Speaker 3>But I'm concerned as much about the absurdity as anything.</v>

00:59:22.160 --> 00:59:26.320
<v Speaker 3>Like the unchristian part is dire, but the fact that absurdity is</v>

00:59:26.320 --> 00:59:30.960
<v Speaker 3>leading to unchristian behavior shows to me what time it is.</v>

00:59:30.960 --> 00:59:34.240
<v Speaker 3>It's not that there's some dedication to evil by these people.</v>

00:59:34.240 --> 00:59:35.680
<v Speaker 3>It's just that they don't care.</v>

00:59:35.680 --> 00:59:36.640
<v Speaker 3>Why should they care?</v>

00:59:36.640 --> 00:59:39.200
<v Speaker 3>They did the right thing by making a comment.</v>

00:59:39.200 --> 00:59:42.000
<v Speaker 3>And therefore I voted my conscience is clean.</v>

00:59:42.000 --> 00:59:43.040
<v Speaker 3>It's silly.</v>

00:59:43.040 --> 00:59:47.520
<v Speaker 3>And so the purpose, the lesser purpose of this episode in highlighting</v>

00:59:47.760 --> 00:59:51.280
<v Speaker 3>context windows is to get you to just think about the fact</v>

00:59:51.280 --> 00:59:54.160
<v Speaker 3>that you only know so much about any given situation.</v>

00:59:54.160 --> 00:59:57.280
<v Speaker 3>You know, the juror example is a prime one.</v>

00:59:57.280 --> 01:00:01.360
<v Speaker 3>Both sides in a civil or a criminal trial, especially a criminal</v>

01:00:01.360 --> 01:00:05.840
<v Speaker 3>trial, and the judge, there are very strict rules governing what can</v>

01:00:05.840 --> 01:00:07.440
<v Speaker 3>be entered into evidence.</v>

01:00:07.440 --> 01:00:12.080
<v Speaker 3>They control the context window for the entire jury deliberation.</v>

01:00:12.080 --> 01:00:16.240
<v Speaker 3>And the rules that are set forth are that you are to</v>

01:00:16.240 --> 01:00:21.120
<v Speaker 3>have nothing inside your deliberation context beyond what is introduced as evidence</v>

01:00:21.120 --> 01:00:22.160
<v Speaker 3>in court.</v>

01:00:22.160 --> 01:00:24.560
<v Speaker 3>And you are not to forget anything.</v>

01:00:24.560 --> 01:00:28.080
<v Speaker 3>Everything that's there that was admissible, you should consider.</v>

01:00:28.080 --> 01:00:30.800
<v Speaker 3>And as a juror, consideration means weighing it.</v>

01:00:30.800 --> 01:00:33.920
<v Speaker 3>So you may consider evidence and say, I disregard that entirely.</v>

01:00:33.920 --> 01:00:35.600
<v Speaker 3>I think that person was a liar.</v>

01:00:35.600 --> 01:00:37.680
<v Speaker 3>I think that that testimony was false.</v>

01:00:37.680 --> 01:00:39.040
<v Speaker 3>I think it was shoddy.</v>

01:00:39.040 --> 01:00:42.000
<v Speaker 3>That in you as a trier of fact, as a juror, that's</v>

01:00:42.000 --> 01:00:43.120
<v Speaker 3>your job.</v>

01:00:43.120 --> 01:00:45.040
<v Speaker 3>But you should at least consider all of it.</v>

01:00:45.040 --> 01:00:47.520
<v Speaker 3>You are not free to say, I'm not gonna I I didn't</v>

01:00:47.440 --> 01:00:48.960
<v Speaker 3>even listen to what that guy said.</v>

01:00:48.960 --> 01:00:51.040
<v Speaker 3>That would be jury malfeasance.</v>

01:00:51.040 --> 01:00:54.960
<v Speaker 3>You can't just sleep while someone's testifying if you don't find him</v>

01:00:54.960 --> 01:00:59.440
<v Speaker 3>interesting. You can consciously judge he's not interesting, but you can't just</v>

01:00:59.440 --> 01:01:00.400
<v Speaker 3>disregard it.</v>

01:01:00.400 --> 01:01:03.920
<v Speaker 3>You can't throw away that context because in the purpose of a</v>

01:01:03.920 --> 01:01:08.000
<v Speaker 3>trial, it's then determined by the system to be key.</v>

01:01:08.000 --> 01:01:11.680
<v Speaker 3>And so this notion of context windows pops up all the time.</v>

01:01:11.680 --> 01:01:16.080
<v Speaker 3>And in the case of a jury trial, there are rules and</v>

01:01:16.080 --> 01:01:19.360
<v Speaker 3>you're gonna be professional about it, hopefully, pretty much anyone listening to</v>

01:01:19.360 --> 01:01:22.400
<v Speaker 3>this to this would be, but you're not going to be as</v>

01:01:22.400 --> 01:01:25.680
<v Speaker 3>cavalier as you would be in other situations, like saying that someone's</v>

01:01:25.680 --> 01:01:28.560
<v Speaker 3>going to hell because you saw a screenshot on the internet.</v>

01:01:28.560 --> 01:01:32.560
<v Speaker 3>And I think that that's not the standard the Christians should be</v>

01:01:32.560 --> 01:01:34.320
<v Speaker 3>holding ourselves up to.</v>

01:01:34.320 --> 01:01:38.800
<v Speaker 3>If you don't know everything, you can find something questionable.</v>

01:01:38.800 --> 01:01:39.760
<v Speaker 3>That's fine.</v>

01:01:39.760 --> 01:01:43.280
<v Speaker 3>As Corey said, he posts things and I post things to get</v>

01:01:43.280 --> 01:01:47.760
<v Speaker 3>people to think in getting people to think often involves raising questions</v>

01:01:47.760 --> 01:01:51.600
<v Speaker 3>in their minds, to challenge assumptions, to use a word in a</v>

01:01:51.600 --> 01:01:55.440
<v Speaker 3>way that they haven't considered before, and to make you think it's</v>

01:01:55.440 --> 01:01:58.640
<v Speaker 3>fun for us to do that because it's valuable and it's fun</v>

01:01:58.640 --> 01:02:00.640
<v Speaker 3>because it's beneficial.</v>

01:02:00.640 --> 01:02:05.920
<v Speaker 3>It helps people to be better citizens, better Christians, just better thinkers,</v>

01:02:05.920 --> 01:02:09.440
<v Speaker 3>to actually spend a little bit of time with metacognition thinking about</v>

01:02:09.440 --> 01:02:11.840
<v Speaker 3>thinking and taking this stuff seriously.</v>

01:02:11.840 --> 01:02:16.640
<v Speaker 3>Not disregarding the fact that your context window is thirty seconds long</v>

01:02:16.800 --> 01:02:18.400
<v Speaker 3>for some given interaction.</v>

01:02:18.400 --> 01:02:21.280
<v Speaker 3>Take seriously the fact that you don't know squat, and you should</v>

01:02:21.280 --> 01:02:22.480
<v Speaker 3>keep your mouth shut.</v>

01:02:22.480 --> 01:02:25.200
<v Speaker 3>That's a perfectly fine conclusion to reach.</v>

01:02:25.200 --> 01:02:27.040
<v Speaker 3>And it should be everyone's default.</v>

01:02:27.040 --> 01:02:30.640
<v Speaker 3>I don't know enough to comment is a perfectly it should be</v>

01:02:30.640 --> 01:02:31.520
<v Speaker 3>the default.</v>

01:02:31.520 --> 01:02:34.800
<v Speaker 3>Someone wants you to condemn someone or to argue about something or</v>

01:02:34.800 --> 01:02:36.480
<v Speaker 3>to what do you think about this?</v>

01:02:36.480 --> 01:02:38.080
<v Speaker 3>If you don't know, say I don't know.</v>

01:02:38.080 --> 01:02:39.760
<v Speaker 3>And if you don't think it's worth your time, say I'm not</v>

01:02:39.760 --> 01:02:41.600
<v Speaker 3>gonna let that into my context window.</v>

01:02:41.600 --> 01:02:42.720
<v Speaker 3>I mean, don't talk like that.</v>

01:02:42.720 --> 01:02:44.320
<v Speaker 3>But you know what I mean.</v>

01:02:44.320 --> 01:02:48.800
<v Speaker 3>If it's not worth your time to consider the evidence, okay, great,</v>

01:02:48.800 --> 01:02:50.560
<v Speaker 3>but you don't get to have an opinion.</v>

01:02:50.560 --> 01:02:52.560
<v Speaker 3>This is something I've said repeatedly.</v>

01:02:52.560 --> 01:02:56.000
<v Speaker 3>I don't expect anyone to agree with us or listen to us,</v>

01:02:56.000 --> 01:03:00.000
<v Speaker 3>but if you have no interest in our argument, you're not in</v>

01:03:00.000 --> 01:03:03.280
<v Speaker 3>a position to render judgment.</v>

01:03:03.520 --> 01:03:10.160
<v Speaker 2>Technically speaking, a context window applies only to an individual or to</v>

01:03:10.160 --> 01:03:13.360
<v Speaker 2>a machine to which a context window is relevant, which is to</v>

01:03:13.360 --> 01:03:16.160
<v Speaker 2>say an LLM or a so-called AI.</v>

01:03:16.160 --> 01:03:16.800
<v Speaker 2>However,</v>

01:03:17.680 --> 01:03:23.440
<v Speaker 2>there is a very similar thing that plays out with human organizations</v>

01:03:23.440 --> 01:03:25.440
<v Speaker 2>and even civilizations.</v>

01:03:25.440 --> 01:03:29.600
<v Speaker 2>There is a sort of context window for those as well.</v>

01:03:29.600 --> 01:03:33.680
<v Speaker 2>Because in the case of an organization, you are going to have</v>

01:03:33.680 --> 01:03:36.960
<v Speaker 2>a certain history for that organization, assuming it's been around long enough</v>

01:03:36.960 --> 01:03:38.320
<v Speaker 2>to have such a thing.</v>

01:03:38.320 --> 01:03:41.920
<v Speaker 2>So think a very old corporation or law firm or even a</v>

01:03:41.920 --> 01:03:43.840
<v Speaker 2>country. Certain things</v>

01:03:44.720 --> 01:03:50.160
<v Speaker 2>that are past a certain age are going to simply be forgotten.</v>

01:03:50.160 --> 01:03:53.600
<v Speaker 2>They are going to fall out of the context window.</v>

01:03:53.600 --> 01:03:59.680
<v Speaker 2>But by and large, human organizations and civilizations tend to do what</v>

01:03:59.680 --> 01:04:03.520
<v Speaker 2>Woe described as dropping things out of the middle.</v>

01:04:03.520 --> 01:04:07.680
<v Speaker 2>Because by and large, we all know in the US context, the</v>

01:04:07.680 --> 01:04:08.240
<v Speaker 2>United States</v>

01:04:09.120 --> 01:04:15.120
<v Speaker 2>is founded upon the Declaration of Independence and the US Constitution.</v>

01:04:15.120 --> 01:04:19.680
<v Speaker 2>If you start asking people specifics about the years between that and</v>

01:04:19.680 --> 01:04:23.040
<v Speaker 2>today, things start to get a little fuzzy.</v>

01:04:23.040 --> 01:04:26.880
<v Speaker 2>Because by and large, how we work in these contexts is we</v>

01:04:26.880 --> 01:04:28.720
<v Speaker 2>drop things out of the middle.</v>

01:04:28.720 --> 01:04:32.320
<v Speaker 2>We don't remember those specifics.</v>

01:04:32.320 --> 01:04:36.400
<v Speaker 2>Because obviously, the beginning is one of the most important parts of</v>

01:04:36.400 --> 01:04:40.800
<v Speaker 2>an organization or a country or a civilization, whatever it happens to</v>

01:04:40.800 --> 01:04:45.440
<v Speaker 2>be. And what is happening presently is important because that dictates what</v>

01:04:45.440 --> 01:04:48.240
<v Speaker 2>will or will not happen in the Happen in the future, but</v>

01:04:48.240 --> 01:04:51.120
<v Speaker 2>some of the things in the middle are perhaps not as important</v>

01:04:51.280 --> 01:04:54.480
<v Speaker 2>or at least not considered as important, they tend to start falling</v>

01:04:54.480 --> 01:04:56.720
<v Speaker 2>out of memory.</v>

01:04:56.720 --> 01:05:01.280
<v Speaker 2>Key points will be retained, certain particular important events.</v>

01:05:01.280 --> 01:05:03.760
<v Speaker 2>Most people know that we had a civil war.</v>

01:05:03.760 --> 01:05:06.640
<v Speaker 2>Things like that tend to be remembered.</v>

01:05:06.640 --> 01:05:10.720
<v Speaker 2>Now if you ask people about the war we had with Mexico,</v>

01:05:10.720 --> 01:05:14.320
<v Speaker 2>they're probably going to know less about that than the Civil War.</v>

01:05:14.320 --> 01:05:18.480
<v Speaker 2>And so there's this same sort of concept with regard to</v>

01:05:19.440 --> 01:05:24.800
<v Speaker 2>creations of human beings, whether a corporation or a country or a</v>

01:05:24.800 --> 01:05:29.840
<v Speaker 2>civilization, something similar to a context window.</v>

01:05:29.840 --> 01:05:33.040
<v Speaker 2>And when we talk about the Septuagint as we will be doing</v>

01:05:33.040 --> 01:05:39.520
<v Speaker 2>in the upcoming series, we are dealing in a civilizational context window,</v>

01:05:39.520 --> 01:05:43.600
<v Speaker 2>and also in an organizational context window, because we're dealing with the</v>

01:05:43.600 --> 01:05:48.640
<v Speaker 2>church. And we do mean uppercase C church in this case, because</v>

01:05:48.640 --> 01:05:51.680
<v Speaker 2>we are going to be dealing with the ancient church, we're going</v>

01:05:51.680 --> 01:05:53.680
<v Speaker 2>to be dealing with Rome, we're going to be dealing with the</v>

01:05:53.680 --> 01:05:59.040
<v Speaker 2>Reformation, we're going to be dealing with certain organizations after the Reformation,</v>

01:05:59.040 --> 01:06:02.960
<v Speaker 2>and also some tangentially related bodies.</v>

01:06:02.960 --> 01:06:10.000
<v Speaker 2>This civilizational context window is vitally important because in order to draw</v>

01:06:10.000 --> 01:06:15.680
<v Speaker 2>the right conclusions, you really need to have the entirety of this</v>

01:06:15.680 --> 01:06:18.320
<v Speaker 2>particular timeline in mind.</v>

01:06:18.320 --> 01:06:21.440
<v Speaker 2>It's one of the reasons that Woe said to write things down</v>

01:06:21.440 --> 01:06:26.880
<v Speaker 2>with your objections, your questions, your considerations, and then put them aside.</v>

01:06:26.880 --> 01:06:31.360
<v Speaker 2>Because you need to try to retain the timeline in your mind.</v>

01:06:31.360 --> 01:06:33.360
<v Speaker 2>Now you may not be able to do that.</v>

01:06:33.360 --> 01:06:36.800
<v Speaker 2>Most men will not be able to do that because again, we're</v>

01:06:36.800 --> 01:06:39.680
<v Speaker 2>talking about quite a lot of years here, and there's a lot</v>

01:06:39.680 --> 01:06:41.680
<v Speaker 2>of information.</v>

01:06:41.680 --> 01:06:44.960
<v Speaker 2>But you will be able to retain enough to make an assessment,</v>

01:06:44.960 --> 01:06:47.520
<v Speaker 2>and I will summarize it at the end of the episodes as</v>

01:06:47.520 --> 01:06:53.760
<v Speaker 2>I usually do, to help you along with drawing those conclusions.</v>

01:06:53.760 --> 01:06:57.760
<v Speaker 2>The reason that it is important to have the entirety of this</v>

01:06:57.760 --> 01:07:02.720
<v Speaker 2>context window is related to what Woe said about social media.</v>

01:07:02.720 --> 01:07:06.480
<v Speaker 2>This comes up with certain posts all the time.</v>

01:07:06.480 --> 01:07:09.280
<v Speaker 2>You could pick any of a handful of dozens of posts from</v>

01:07:09.280 --> 01:07:14.320
<v Speaker 2>either of us, if you don't understand the context, you may very</v>

01:07:14.320 --> 01:07:16.400
<v Speaker 2>well draw wrong conclusions.</v>

01:07:16.400 --> 01:07:21.200
<v Speaker 2>Now often the post stands alone, but the context adds something to</v>

01:07:21.200 --> 01:07:25.520
<v Speaker 2>it. When it comes to the issue of the Septuagint, we are</v>

01:07:25.520 --> 01:07:28.640
<v Speaker 2>going to lay out the case that you need to know this</v>

01:07:28.880 --> 01:07:33.360
<v Speaker 2>historical context, you need to know the fullness of this timeline, why</v>

01:07:33.360 --> 01:07:38.880
<v Speaker 2>things happened, when they happened, who caused them to happen, the consequences</v>

01:07:38.880 --> 01:07:41.440
<v Speaker 2>of those things happening, etc.</v>

01:07:41.520 --> 01:07:45.920
<v Speaker 2>etc. All of these things matter because they lead up to where</v>

01:07:45.920 --> 01:07:50.320
<v Speaker 2>we are today and what we should do with that information.</v>

01:07:50.320 --> 01:07:56.240
<v Speaker 2>Now, if you only have the context of today, in maybe a</v>

01:07:56.240 --> 01:07:59.840
<v Speaker 2>couple of decades, or even a century, maybe you have a context</v>

01:07:59.840 --> 01:08:03.840
<v Speaker 2>window that goes back into the middle of the nineteen hundreds, maybe</v>

01:08:03.840 --> 01:08:06.960
<v Speaker 2>two centuries back into the eighteen hundreds, say.</v>

01:08:06.960 --> 01:08:12.480
<v Speaker 2>That is going to be insufficient to draw accurate conclusions, because you</v>

01:08:12.480 --> 01:08:15.680
<v Speaker 2>are going to be missing things that happened thousands of years ago</v>

01:08:16.560 --> 01:08:19.360
<v Speaker 2>that are relevant to us today.</v>

01:08:19.360 --> 01:08:21.840
<v Speaker 2>And now there are those who will think, oh, it happened two</v>

01:08:21.920 --> 01:08:22.800
<v Speaker 2>thousand years ago.</v>

01:08:22.800 --> 01:08:24.400
<v Speaker 2>How relevant could it be?</v>

01:08:24.400 --> 01:08:27.440
<v Speaker 2>I would encourage you to think about that statement for a moment</v>

01:08:27.440 --> 01:08:30.400
<v Speaker 2>before advancing it.</v>

01:08:30.400 --> 01:08:36.160
<v Speaker 2>Because as Christians, something that happened two thousand years ago is fairly</v>

01:08:36.160 --> 01:08:38.400
<v Speaker 2>relevant to our interest today.</v>

01:08:38.400 --> 01:08:39.040
<v Speaker 2>In fact, happened</v>

01:08:40.240 --> 01:08:43.760
<v Speaker 2>fairly close to exactly two thousand years as we sit here now</v>

01:08:43.760 --> 01:08:47.840
<v Speaker 2>in twenty twenty five.</v>

01:08:47.840 --> 01:08:51.520
<v Speaker 2>It is not to say that you need to know everything that</v>

01:08:51.520 --> 01:08:56.560
<v Speaker 2>happened in history To have a true and living faith in Christ,</v>

01:08:56.560 --> 01:08:58.400
<v Speaker 2>a salvific faith.</v>

01:08:58.400 --> 01:09:00.240
<v Speaker 2>We are not advancing that.</v>

01:09:00.240 --> 01:09:03.600
<v Speaker 2>We are never going to advance that in the entirety of the</v>

01:09:03.600 --> 01:09:07.360
<v Speaker 2>Septuagint series because that is not the point, it is not even</v>

01:09:07.360 --> 01:09:11.680
<v Speaker 2>among the points that we will be making.</v>

01:09:11.680 --> 01:09:15.200
<v Speaker 2>The points we will be making are related to what we should</v>

01:09:15.200 --> 01:09:19.840
<v Speaker 2>be doing as Christians, where things have gone astray in the past,</v>

01:09:19.840 --> 01:09:24.320
<v Speaker 2>how we can address them today, and why those things happened and</v>

01:09:24.320 --> 01:09:27.840
<v Speaker 2>why we should do certain things in response.</v>

01:09:27.840 --> 01:09:32.960
<v Speaker 2>You can use an existing translation of scripture and come to a</v>

01:09:32.960 --> 01:09:34.880
<v Speaker 2>saving faith in Christ.</v>

01:09:34.880 --> 01:09:39.920
<v Speaker 2>Again I highly recommend, as should any Christian, the guardrails that are</v>

01:09:39.920 --> 01:09:42.480
<v Speaker 2>the creeds that are the confessions.</v>

01:09:42.480 --> 01:09:46.800
<v Speaker 2>Our faithful ancestors have drawn those up and used them and passed</v>

01:09:46.800 --> 01:09:50.720
<v Speaker 2>them down to us to protect us from certain issues that arose</v>

01:09:50.720 --> 01:09:53.040
<v Speaker 2>in the church.</v>

01:09:53.040 --> 01:09:56.560
<v Speaker 2>We are going to point out another issue that arose in the</v>

01:09:56.560 --> 01:10:01.600
<v Speaker 2>church and should have been addressed in centuries past but was not.</v>

01:10:01.600 --> 01:10:09.440
<v Speaker 2>It matters that you understand that context window of thousands of years.</v>

01:10:09.440 --> 01:10:13.200
<v Speaker 2>That is again why Woe said to write things down.</v>

01:10:13.200 --> 01:10:16.240
<v Speaker 2>That is a long time, that is a lot of information that</v>

01:10:16.240 --> 01:10:18.080
<v Speaker 2>we will be presenting.</v>

01:10:18.400 --> 01:10:21.200
<v Speaker 2>You do not have to hold all of it in your mind,</v>

01:10:21.200 --> 01:10:25.040
<v Speaker 2>thankfully. God has given us the ability to write things down.</v>

01:10:25.040 --> 01:10:27.520
<v Speaker 2>At least now we have universal literacy.</v>

01:10:27.520 --> 01:10:30.960
<v Speaker 2>Say what you will about it, whether it has been on balance</v>

01:10:31.040 --> 01:10:32.000
<v Speaker 2>good or bad.</v>

01:10:32.000 --> 01:10:34.000
<v Speaker 2>Most of us know how to read and write.</v>

01:10:34.000 --> 01:10:35.440
<v Speaker 2>So you can take notes.</v>

01:10:35.440 --> 01:10:38.800
<v Speaker 2>You don't have to hold the entirety of it in your mind</v>

01:10:38.800 --> 01:10:42.720
<v Speaker 2>because you can look back at your notes and make that assessment</v>

01:10:42.720 --> 01:10:48.400
<v Speaker 2>deliberately. You can deliberate on what we have presented and what conclusions</v>

01:10:48.400 --> 01:10:51.760
<v Speaker 2>you should draw from it.</v>

01:10:51.760 --> 01:10:56.480
<v Speaker 2>That is why context window matters because if you do not have</v>

01:10:56.480 --> 01:11:02.000
<v Speaker 2>a sufficient context window, you will draw inaccurate conclusions because you are</v>

01:11:02.000 --> 01:11:05.920
<v Speaker 2>doing it based on insufficient information.</v>

01:11:05.920 --> 01:11:11.840
<v Speaker 2>For instance, I can give a simple, perhaps one could say, extreme</v>

01:11:11.920 --> 01:11:15.680
<v Speaker 2>example, but a very simple example to draw this out.</v>

01:11:15.680 --> 01:11:21.200
<v Speaker 2>If If introduced into evidence in a criminal case for assault, battery,</v>

01:11:21.200 --> 01:11:24.720
<v Speaker 2>whatever it happens to be, it's probably assault given most jurisdictions, but</v>

01:11:24.960 --> 01:11:30.080
<v Speaker 2>a criminal case for criminal assault, and you have a video that</v>

01:11:30.080 --> 01:11:33.920
<v Speaker 2>starts in the middle of a fight, and all you see is</v>

01:11:34.240 --> 01:11:39.760
<v Speaker 2>Man B, punch man A and knock him unconscious.</v>

01:11:39.760 --> 01:11:43.360
<v Speaker 2>You should probably have some questions.</v>

01:11:43.520 --> 01:11:46.480
<v Speaker 2>Why do I not have the rest of the video?</v>

01:11:46.720 --> 01:11:52.560
<v Speaker 2>Why do I not know what happened before this particular incident, before</v>

01:11:52.560 --> 01:11:53.920
<v Speaker 2>this punch?</v>

01:11:53.920 --> 01:11:57.680
<v Speaker 2>Why do I not know what led up to this moment?</v>

01:11:58.240 --> 01:12:03.360
<v Speaker 2>Why have I not been given sufficient context to make an informed</v>

01:12:03.360 --> 01:12:09.040
<v Speaker 2>decision? Because if all you saw was one man punch another, well</v>

01:12:09.120 --> 01:12:12.240
<v Speaker 2>that's wrongful because you aren't supposed to assault other people.</v>

01:12:13.040 --> 01:12:18.160
<v Speaker 2>However, if in the previous thirty seconds of the video, not introduced</v>

01:12:18.160 --> 01:12:21.680
<v Speaker 2>into evidence, this is a bad judge in the hypothetical, but in</v>

01:12:21.680 --> 01:12:26.720
<v Speaker 2>the previous thirty seconds, as it turns out, it wasn't man B</v>

01:12:26.880 --> 01:12:30.640
<v Speaker 2>starting the fight with man A, it was man A running up</v>

01:12:30.640 --> 01:12:32.400
<v Speaker 2>and punching man B.</v>

01:12:32.400 --> 01:12:35.680
<v Speaker 2>And so man B was in fact defending himself against Man A.</v>

01:12:35.680 --> 01:12:37.600
<v Speaker 2>Well, that changes matters.</v>

01:12:37.600 --> 01:12:40.880
<v Speaker 2>Because now you have the full context window, and now you can</v>

01:12:40.880 --> 01:12:45.520
<v Speaker 2>draw an accurate conclusion, whereas you could not do that before.</v>

01:12:45.520 --> 01:12:50.720
<v Speaker 2>You need to have an adequate context in order to draw accurate</v>

01:12:50.720 --> 01:12:56.320
<v Speaker 2>conclusions. It is not necessarily a complete context, because a complete context</v>

01:12:56.320 --> 01:12:59.360
<v Speaker 2>would be a perfect history of the world all the way back</v>

01:12:59.360 --> 01:13:00.640
<v Speaker 2>to creation.</v>

01:13:00.640 --> 01:13:04.240
<v Speaker 2>No man has that, no man could hold that in his head.</v>

01:13:04.240 --> 01:13:09.200
<v Speaker 2>What you need to know are the facts that are salient to</v>

01:13:09.200 --> 01:13:10.400
<v Speaker 2>the issue.</v>

01:13:10.400 --> 01:13:17.120
<v Speaker 2>The things that are necessary to know to draw accurate conclusions given</v>

01:13:17.120 --> 01:13:18.720
<v Speaker 2>the context.</v>

01:13:18.720 --> 01:13:21.760
<v Speaker 2>That is what we are going to endeavor to present in the</v>

01:13:21.760 --> 01:13:23.760
<v Speaker 2>Septuagint series.</v>

01:13:23.760 --> 01:13:29.920
<v Speaker 2>The necessary context to draw accurate conclusions about the Septuagint, about the</v>

01:13:29.920 --> 01:13:35.120
<v Speaker 2>Masoretic text, and about this particular part of church history.</v>

01:13:35.120 --> 01:13:38.000
<v Speaker 2>And it's only this particular part of church history.</v>

01:13:38.240 --> 01:13:40.960
<v Speaker 2>We're not arguing over the</v>

01:13:41.920 --> 01:13:45.600
<v Speaker 2>problems between Rome and the Protestants.</v>

01:13:45.600 --> 01:13:48.560
<v Speaker 2>We're not arguing about the problems between Rome and the East.</v>

01:13:48.560 --> 01:13:52.480
<v Speaker 2>Some of these things will come up tangentially, but we're not addressing</v>

01:13:52.480 --> 01:13:55.600
<v Speaker 2>them as the problems themselves.</v>

01:13:55.600 --> 01:14:00.400
<v Speaker 2>It is again the context that matters and the salient facts.</v>

01:14:00.400 --> 01:14:04.480
<v Speaker 2>So for instance, in the hypothetical that I gave you about a</v>

01:14:04.480 --> 01:14:09.040
<v Speaker 2>man who is actually defending himself not assaulting the other man, assaulting</v>

01:14:09.040 --> 01:14:15.920
<v Speaker 2>him but justified because it's self-defense, it would not be relevant, necessarily,</v>

01:14:15.920 --> 01:14:18.960
<v Speaker 2>that the two men are married, not to each other, but to</v>

01:14:18.960 --> 01:14:21.360
<v Speaker 2>other women, or unmarried.</v>

01:14:21.360 --> 01:14:23.520
<v Speaker 2>That's not necessarily relevant.</v>

01:14:23.520 --> 01:14:27.360
<v Speaker 2>And so when you're talking about a particular issue, it is the</v>

01:14:27.360 --> 01:14:31.040
<v Speaker 2>salient facts, the facts that are relevant to the issue at hand</v>

01:14:31.040 --> 01:14:32.080
<v Speaker 2>that matter.</v>

01:14:32.080 --> 01:14:35.120
<v Speaker 2>That is what we will be addressing in the timeline and in</v>

01:14:35.120 --> 01:14:37.200
<v Speaker 2>the Septuagint series.</v>

01:14:37.200 --> 01:14:38.720
<v Speaker 2>Because the question</v>

01:14:40.160 --> 01:14:45.840
<v Speaker 2>essentially is what is the Masoretic text and what is the Septuagint,</v>

01:14:45.840 --> 01:14:47.600
<v Speaker 2>what is the Greek text?</v>

01:14:47.600 --> 01:14:51.360
<v Speaker 2>Which one is Scripture?</v>

01:14:51.360 --> 01:14:55.920
<v Speaker 2>The information that you need to answer that are the relevant facts</v>

01:14:55.920 --> 01:15:00.240
<v Speaker 2>about that question and the relevant parts of church history and in</v>

01:15:00.240 --> 01:15:04.720
<v Speaker 2>fact world history that lead up to that that contribute to it?</v>

01:15:04.720 --> 01:15:07.360
<v Speaker 2>It's not all of the other fights that have happened in the</v>

01:15:07.360 --> 01:15:11.440
<v Speaker 2>history of the church, it's not all of the differences politically between</v>

01:15:11.440 --> 01:15:15.360
<v Speaker 2>Rome and the Protestants or even theologically between them.</v>

01:15:15.360 --> 01:15:19.520
<v Speaker 2>It is only those things that are relevant to this specific question.</v>

01:15:19.520 --> 01:15:22.640
<v Speaker 2>Which is to say, don't get lost in the weeds.</v>

01:15:22.640 --> 01:15:26.000
<v Speaker 2>Focus on the core issue, which we will focus on the core</v>

01:15:26.000 --> 01:15:27.440
<v Speaker 2>issue as well.</v>

01:15:27.440 --> 01:15:28.720
<v Speaker 2>Take notes.</v>

01:15:28.720 --> 01:15:33.040
<v Speaker 2>Recognize that yes you may have questions, we will probably address them</v>

01:15:33.040 --> 01:15:34.720
<v Speaker 2>as the series progresses.</v>

01:15:34.720 --> 01:15:37.520
<v Speaker 2>If we do not, by all means, please feel free to ask</v>

01:15:37.520 --> 01:15:42.240
<v Speaker 2>them. These are important issues that we are going to be addressing,</v>

01:15:42.240 --> 01:15:46.720
<v Speaker 2>and you need to have an adequate context window in order to</v>

01:15:46.720 --> 01:15:52.000
<v Speaker 2>draw those sound conclusions, but in order to acquire that context window,</v>

01:15:52.000 --> 01:15:55.840
<v Speaker 2>you need to set aside those objections and listen to the fullness</v>

01:15:55.840 --> 01:15:58.000
<v Speaker 2>of the case that we will be presenting.</v>

01:15:58.000 --> 01:16:01.280
<v Speaker 2>It is the same thing that you do as a juror.</v>

01:16:01.280 --> 01:16:04.800
<v Speaker 2>Because you listen to one side present his full case, you listen</v>

01:16:04.800 --> 01:16:08.240
<v Speaker 2>to the other side present his full case, and then you render</v>

01:16:08.240 --> 01:16:11.360
<v Speaker 2>a decision based on the evidence presented.</v>

01:16:11.360 --> 01:16:13.840
<v Speaker 2>That is what we're asking you to do because that is your</v>

01:16:13.840 --> 01:16:15.920
<v Speaker 2>Christian duty as a man.</v>

01:16:16.640 --> 01:16:20.800
<v Speaker 2>This is not necessarily something that is going to be a salvation</v>

01:16:20.800 --> 01:16:25.040
<v Speaker 2>issue, which is something we have to address ad nauseum because it</v>

01:16:25.040 --> 01:16:29.760
<v Speaker 2>comes up so much, particularly from the adversaries and the enemies.</v>

01:16:30.240 --> 01:16:33.520
<v Speaker 2>But not everything in life is a salvation issue.</v>

01:16:33.520 --> 01:16:37.120
<v Speaker 2>Some things matter because they are matters of the truth, and the</v>

01:16:37.120 --> 01:16:41.200
<v Speaker 2>truth does matter, because the truth flows from God.</v>

01:16:41.200 --> 01:16:43.920
<v Speaker 2>Again it is one of the transcendentals.</v>

01:16:43.920 --> 01:16:48.720
<v Speaker 2>That is why the issue of the Masoretic text versus the Septuagint</v>

01:16:48.800 --> 01:16:52.160
<v Speaker 2>matters so much, because it is a matter of truth.</v>

01:16:52.160 --> 01:16:56.000
<v Speaker 2>You can read the Masoretic text and come to a saving faith</v>

01:16:56.000 --> 01:16:56.560
<v Speaker 2>in Christ.</v>

01:16:56.560 --> 01:16:59.680
<v Speaker 2>You can be a Christian and have only the ESV or the</v>

01:16:59.680 --> 01:17:03.520
<v Speaker 2>KJV or the NASB at your disposal.</v>

01:17:03.520 --> 01:17:08.240
<v Speaker 2>You can be a Christian without ever knowing the Septuagint exists.</v>

01:17:08.240 --> 01:17:12.320
<v Speaker 2>But that isn't the question we're asking, and it isn't the question</v>

01:17:12.320 --> 01:17:14.400
<v Speaker 2>we will be answering.</v>

01:17:14.400 --> 01:17:17.520
<v Speaker 2>Because the question is, what is the truth?</v>

01:17:17.920 --> 01:17:20.400
<v Speaker 2>How has God preserved his word?</v>

01:17:20.400 --> 01:17:24.320
<v Speaker 2>What should we do as Christians?</v>

01:17:24.320 --> 01:17:26.720
<v Speaker 2>Don't get off into the weeds.</v>

01:17:26.720 --> 01:17:30.800
<v Speaker 2>Don't let people confuse you and befuddle you with questions that are</v>

01:17:30.800 --> 01:17:35.840
<v Speaker 2>ancillary at best or tangential or even irrelevant.</v>

01:17:35.840 --> 01:17:38.240
<v Speaker 2>Focus on the core issue.</v>

01:17:38.240 --> 01:17:42.560
<v Speaker 2>This is going to be probably the most controversial series that we</v>

01:17:42.560 --> 01:17:44.800
<v Speaker 2>will ever do on this podcast.</v>

01:17:44.800 --> 01:17:48.720
<v Speaker 2>And also, as Wo said, the most important one.</v>

01:17:48.720 --> 01:17:51.600
<v Speaker 2>Because it is an issue that strikes at the heart of church</v>

01:17:51.600 --> 01:17:55.920
<v Speaker 2>history. Again, it is not an issue of salvation, but it is</v>

01:17:55.920 --> 01:17:59.280
<v Speaker 2>an issue of the utmost importance to Christians, because it is a</v>

01:17:59.680 --> 01:18:03.840
<v Speaker 2>matter of God's truth, it is a matter of God's word, and</v>

01:18:03.840 --> 01:18:07.840
<v Speaker 2>we should be absolutely uncompromising when it comes to the things of</v>

01:18:07.840 --> 01:18:08.160
<v Speaker 2>God</v>

01:18:09.920 --> 01:18:10.240
I

01:18:10.240 --> 01:18:14.000
<v Speaker 3>want to reiterate just one additional point.</v>

01:18:14.000 --> 01:18:18.400
<v Speaker 3>When we go through the matters of the Septuagint, when we go</v>

01:18:18.400 --> 01:18:22.720
<v Speaker 3>through this history, as we go along, as like the reason for</v>

01:18:22.720 --> 01:18:27.360
<v Speaker 3>iterating through these historical events is that we're going to be pointing</v>

01:18:27.360 --> 01:18:30.240
<v Speaker 3>out all the things that everyone got wrong.</v>

01:18:30.240 --> 01:18:34.720
<v Speaker 3>And the conclusion is that everyone got this question wrong.</v>

01:18:34.960 --> 01:18:38.800
<v Speaker 3>That sounds like a scandalous, incredibly egotistical thing to say, so I'm</v>

01:18:38.720 --> 01:18:41.200
<v Speaker 3>just gonna say it straight up.</v>

01:18:41.200 --> 01:18:45.680
<v Speaker 3>But in the context of this discussion of the context widow, when</v>

01:18:45.680 --> 01:18:48.560
<v Speaker 3>we point to their errors, we're gonna be pointing out that they</v>

01:18:48.560 --> 01:18:51.200
<v Speaker 3>were very minor errors in most cases.</v>

01:18:51.200 --> 01:18:54.160
<v Speaker 3>They made the most intelligent errors possible.</v>

01:18:54.160 --> 01:18:58.320
<v Speaker 3>They made the reasonable errors in their moment, because their context window</v>

01:18:58.320 --> 01:19:01.360
<v Speaker 3>was not as large as it should have been to reach the</v>

01:19:01.360 --> 01:19:02.640
<v Speaker 3>right conclusions.</v>

01:19:02.640 --> 01:19:05.280
<v Speaker 3>And that's part of the reason for introducing the concept here is</v>

01:19:05.280 --> 01:19:06.560
<v Speaker 3>a separate episode.</v>

01:19:06.560 --> 01:19:09.760
<v Speaker 3>Because while this is the prequel to the Septuagint episode, this applies</v>

01:19:09.760 --> 01:19:10.880
<v Speaker 3>all the time.</v>

01:19:10.880 --> 01:19:16.000
<v Speaker 3>But in the specific case of the timeline narrative of the Septuagint</v>

01:19:16.240 --> 01:19:19.120
<v Speaker 3>from twenty five hundred years ago until today.</v>

01:19:19.120 --> 01:19:25.040
<v Speaker 3>The mistakes were small, they seemed entirely innocent, they seemed entirely reasonable.</v>

01:19:25.040 --> 01:19:29.200
<v Speaker 3>Given the knowledge that they have and the situations that they were</v>

01:19:29.200 --> 01:19:33.440
<v Speaker 3>in in the previous judgments of their fathers in the faith, they</v>

01:19:33.440 --> 01:19:38.560
<v Speaker 3>were reasonable decisions, but they were not reasonable in the full context</v>

01:19:38.560 --> 01:19:39.600
<v Speaker 3>of the question.</v>

01:19:39.600 --> 01:19:41.520
<v Speaker 3>And that's why we're saying that they made mistakes.</v>

01:19:41.520 --> 01:19:44.240
<v Speaker 3>So we're gonna go through and we're gonna demonstrate that case by</v>

01:19:44.240 --> 01:19:48.160
<v Speaker 3>case. But the other reason for specifically highlighting the notion of context</v>

01:19:48.160 --> 01:19:52.160
<v Speaker 3>window and of giving you explicit directive to write down all of</v>

01:19:52.160 --> 01:19:55.760
<v Speaker 3>your objections and then set them aside is that we're going to</v>

01:19:55.760 --> 01:19:57.120
<v Speaker 3>make you angry.</v>

01:19:57.120 --> 01:20:00.000
<v Speaker 3>If you know anything about this, you're going to get frustrated, you're</v>

01:20:00.000 --> 01:20:03.440
<v Speaker 3>going to be offended, you're going to think we're saying one thing</v>

01:20:03.440 --> 01:20:06.400
<v Speaker 3>when we're saying another, because you're going to think that as we're</v>

01:20:06.400 --> 01:20:10.000
<v Speaker 3>going along at each step, they were picking some side.</v>

01:20:10.000 --> 01:20:15.920
<v Speaker 3>One of the obvious examples, during the Reformation itself, one of the</v>

01:20:15.920 --> 01:20:21.200
<v Speaker 3>reasons that the reformers went against the Septuagint was they wanted to</v>

01:20:21.200 --> 01:20:24.960
<v Speaker 3>get rid of the Apocrypha, and it was something that the Roman</v>

01:20:24.960 --> 01:20:27.280
<v Speaker 3>Church was using against them.</v>

01:20:27.280 --> 01:20:31.920
<v Speaker 3>And so rather than debating on the merits, they chose instead to</v>

01:20:31.920 --> 01:20:34.080
<v Speaker 3>do what they believed was a reasonable thing and just go back</v>

01:20:34.080 --> 01:20:36.560
<v Speaker 3>to the Hebrew because they thought it was older.</v>

01:20:36.560 --> 01:20:39.360
<v Speaker 3>It wasn't older, but they didn't know that at the time.</v>

01:20:39.360 --> 01:20:42.080
<v Speaker 3>They had fallen into a trap that had been laid for them</v>

01:20:42.080 --> 01:20:46.480
<v Speaker 3>a thousand years prior, and they weren't questioning those givens as they</v>

01:20:46.480 --> 01:20:49.440
<v Speaker 3>were dealing in the moment of you know Luther and the others</v>

01:20:49.440 --> 01:20:50.720
<v Speaker 3>versus Rome.</v>

01:20:50.720 --> 01:20:53.280
<v Speaker 3>They were having a fight, and it was a real fight where</v>

01:20:53.280 --> 01:20:56.320
<v Speaker 3>lives were on the line, they were under stress.</v>

01:20:56.320 --> 01:20:58.000
<v Speaker 3>It wasn't a stupid decision.</v>

01:20:58.000 --> 01:21:01.360
<v Speaker 3>So when we say that they were wrong, we're not saying that</v>

01:21:01.360 --> 01:21:03.200
<v Speaker 3>we're smarter or better than them.</v>

01:21:03.200 --> 01:21:05.680
<v Speaker 3>We're not saying that they were dumb or faithless.</v>

01:21:05.680 --> 01:21:09.040
<v Speaker 3>We're saying they made a small error in the moment and it</v>

01:21:09.040 --> 01:21:10.640
<v Speaker 3>had long-term consequences.</v>

01:21:10.640 --> 01:21:12.960
<v Speaker 3>As so many errors in our lives do.</v>

01:21:12.960 --> 01:21:15.840
<v Speaker 3>You make some dumb mistake ten years ago and it comes back</v>

01:21:15.840 --> 01:21:17.600
<v Speaker 3>to haunt you for some reason.</v>

01:21:17.600 --> 01:21:19.440
<v Speaker 3>We understand that this happens.</v>

01:21:19.440 --> 01:21:21.920
<v Speaker 3>And when you're a parent raising a child, you try to impress</v>

01:21:21.920 --> 01:21:25.120
<v Speaker 3>upon them, look, don't sweat the small stuff because you think you're</v>

01:21:25.120 --> 01:21:27.040
<v Speaker 3>making some small mistake now.</v>

01:21:27.040 --> 01:21:29.520
<v Speaker 3>It could derail things later on.</v>

01:21:29.520 --> 01:21:32.480
<v Speaker 3>This is not alien to any of us.</v>

01:21:32.480 --> 01:21:37.040
<v Speaker 3>So our claim that these men made mistakes as they went along,</v>

01:21:37.040 --> 01:21:40.320
<v Speaker 3>although it's going to be offensive and it's going to be scandalous,</v>

01:21:40.320 --> 01:21:42.240
<v Speaker 3>it's entirely reasonable.</v>

01:21:42.320 --> 01:21:46.080
<v Speaker 3>Doesn't mean we're right, but it's not an unreasonable thing to claim.</v>

01:21:46.080 --> 01:21:49.520
<v Speaker 3>And so as we make the case, again, it's going to take</v>

01:21:49.520 --> 01:21:50.880
<v Speaker 3>the entire case.</v>

01:21:50.880 --> 01:21:55.600
<v Speaker 3>When we look at the moment of Luther choosing to translate from</v>

01:21:55.600 --> 01:21:59.600
<v Speaker 3>the Hebrew rather than the Septuagint, if you hear us saying just</v>

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<v Speaker 3>in that one tiny vignette, forget the entire context window and just</v>

01:22:03.360 --> 01:22:06.720
<v Speaker 3>collapse that context window down to the three months that he was</v>

01:22:06.720 --> 01:22:09.680
<v Speaker 3>doing that, however long it was.</v>

01:22:09.680 --> 01:22:12.880
<v Speaker 3>If we are sitting here today and saying Luther was wrong for</v>

01:22:12.880 --> 01:22:19.440
<v Speaker 3>using the Hebrew instead of the Septuagint, the knee-jerk small context window</v>

01:22:19.440 --> 01:22:22.480
<v Speaker 3>response from the listener is going to be: Well, you're siding with</v>

01:22:22.480 --> 01:22:25.440
<v Speaker 3>Rome and you're choosing the Apocrypha.</v>

01:22:25.440 --> 01:22:27.040
<v Speaker 3>None of that's the case.</v>

01:22:27.040 --> 01:22:30.080
<v Speaker 3>One of the other salient aspects of this conversation is that the</v>

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<v Speaker 3>canon is separate from the textual source.</v>

01:22:34.160 --> 01:22:38.960
<v Speaker 3>It's entirely possible to say that the textual source of the Septuagint</v>

01:22:39.200 --> 01:22:45.840
<v Speaker 3>is inspired by God and also separately to say, separate but related,</v>

01:22:45.840 --> 01:22:51.040
<v Speaker 3>that the canon of scripture that is breathed out by God includes</v>

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<v Speaker 3>certain books and excludes other books.</v>

01:22:53.920 --> 01:22:55.440
<v Speaker 3>That's a separate conversation.</v>

01:22:55.440 --> 01:23:00.720
<v Speaker 3>It's related, but we're not choosing sides with regard to the canon.</v>

01:23:00.720 --> 01:23:03.200
<v Speaker 3>That's another thing I'll say here and we'll say it again later.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>This isn't about the canon.</v>

01:23:04.640 --> 01:23:07.200
<v Speaker 3>This is not about which books are inspired.</v>

01:23:07.200 --> 01:23:11.120
<v Speaker 3>This is about the textual source that's used for Scripture itself.</v>

01:23:11.120 --> 01:23:15.600
<v Speaker 3>Having reduced the sources that are acceptable for Christians to the Greek</v>

01:23:15.600 --> 01:23:18.880
<v Speaker 3>corpus, then you have the discussion that went on for fifteen hundred</v>

01:23:18.880 --> 01:23:22.160
<v Speaker 3>years up to Luther's day, which books are canon?</v>

01:23:22.160 --> 01:23:26.560
<v Speaker 3>It wasn't until Council of Trent that the West officially made the</v>

01:23:26.560 --> 01:23:29.760
<v Speaker 3>books of I think seventy-three books that the Romanists have as their</v>

01:23:29.920 --> 01:23:31.680
<v Speaker 3>canon. There was no official canon.</v>

01:23:31.680 --> 01:23:34.800
<v Speaker 3>So when Luther was having that debate at the time, it was</v>

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<v Speaker 3>just a continuation of a longstanding one.</v>

01:23:37.520 --> 01:23:41.040
<v Speaker 3>And that debate was not based upon the textual source.</v>

01:23:41.040 --> 01:23:43.040
<v Speaker 3>It was a separate conversation.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>So the reason I'm highlighting this now is that this is a</v>

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<v Speaker 3>sort of fight that when you're listening in the coming weeks, you're</v>

01:23:48.320 --> 01:23:49.440
<v Speaker 3>gonna want to pick the fight.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>Oh, he's he said Luther's wrong about the Septuagint.</v>

01:23:52.000 --> 01:23:53.520
<v Speaker 3>He must like the Apocrypha.</v>

01:23:53.520 --> 01:23:54.640
<v Speaker 3>We didn't say that.</v>

01:23:54.640 --> 01:23:56.320
<v Speaker 3>That's what the context window is.</v>

01:23:56.320 --> 01:24:00.080
<v Speaker 3>When you hallucinate something that we didn't say and then make a</v>

01:24:00.080 --> 01:24:02.960
<v Speaker 3>judgment based on it, you're doing what an LLM does.</v>

01:24:03.520 --> 01:24:06.000
<v Speaker 3>You're doing what one of these stupid robots does.</v>

01:24:06.000 --> 01:24:08.320
<v Speaker 3>And they're better at it than people are at this point.</v>

01:24:08.320 --> 01:24:12.320
<v Speaker 3>I've taken to l having people make stupid comments on X.</v>

01:24:12.320 --> 01:24:14.480
<v Speaker 3>I feed them to an LLM and then just spit out the</v>

01:24:14.480 --> 01:24:16.320
<v Speaker 3>screenshot explaining what they got wrong.</v>

01:24:16.560 --> 01:24:21.840
<v Speaker 3>Because a pure reason engine that actually understands English better understands the</v>

01:24:21.840 --> 01:24:25.520
<v Speaker 3>situation than someone who claims to be a Christian while he's spitting</v>

01:24:25.520 --> 01:24:28.800
<v Speaker 3>venom as someone who should be a Christian brother.</v>

01:24:28.800 --> 01:24:32.080
<v Speaker 3>This stuff is a problem in general, which is why the context</v>

01:24:32.080 --> 01:24:36.320
<v Speaker 3>window stands alone as this episode by itself apart from the Septuagint.</v>

01:24:36.320 --> 01:24:37.760
<v Speaker 3>This happens all the time.</v>

01:24:37.760 --> 01:24:40.000
<v Speaker 3>But as I said at the beginning, this would have been a</v>

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<v Speaker 3>much too lengthy preamble, even in the very shortened version, it would</v>

01:24:43.600 --> 01:24:48.960
<v Speaker 3>have derailed the content of the first historical Septuagint episode.</v>

01:24:48.960 --> 01:24:52.080
<v Speaker 3>If you believe us, if you trust us not to be complete</v>

01:24:52.400 --> 01:24:56.800
<v Speaker 3>liars and demoniacs, then you can take your notes of your objections,</v>

01:24:56.800 --> 01:24:58.320
<v Speaker 3>you can refer to them later.</v>

01:24:58.320 --> 01:25:01.760
<v Speaker 3>If we didn't address your objections, or if you find your objections</v>

01:25:01.760 --> 01:25:04.640
<v Speaker 3>are still relevant in your mind, we're happy to hear.</v>

01:25:04.640 --> 01:25:08.000
<v Speaker 3>We're not gonna go back and edit the episode, but we'll listen.</v>

01:25:08.000 --> 01:25:10.400
<v Speaker 3>Maybe it's something we addressed down the road.</v>

01:25:10.400 --> 01:25:14.640
<v Speaker 3>We found that it's one of the most important things that's ever</v>

01:25:14.640 --> 01:25:16.160
<v Speaker 3>happened to the church.</v>

01:25:16.160 --> 01:25:17.680
<v Speaker 3>It's a grandiose claim.</v>

01:25:17.680 --> 01:25:21.120
<v Speaker 3>Feel free to laugh or scoff or get mad at us.</v>

01:25:21.120 --> 01:25:24.080
<v Speaker 3>When we make the case, then you're really going to get mad</v>

01:25:24.240 --> 01:25:26.560
<v Speaker 3>because you're going to hear us saying things that are going to</v>

01:25:26.560 --> 01:25:30.880
<v Speaker 3>criticize your very favorite theologian, whoever he is, he was wrong about</v>

01:25:31.520 --> 01:25:33.200
<v Speaker 3>this by some degree.</v>

01:25:33.200 --> 01:25:34.960
<v Speaker 3>We're not saying he's stupid.</v>

01:25:34.960 --> 01:25:38.080
<v Speaker 3>We're not saying he's faithless, not saying he's in hell.</v>

01:25:38.080 --> 01:25:40.320
<v Speaker 3>We're saying he got a detail wrong.</v>

01:25:40.320 --> 01:25:43.360
<v Speaker 3>And in some cases, we'll be able to explain exactly why he</v>

01:25:43.360 --> 01:25:48.160
<v Speaker 3>got it wrong because his context window was collapsed to 500 years</v>

01:25:48.320 --> 01:25:52.080
<v Speaker 3>instead of 2,000 years as it should have been 500 years ago.</v>

01:25:52.080 --> 01:25:53.680
<v Speaker 3>That's how these things work.</v>

01:25:53.680 --> 01:25:57.520
<v Speaker 3>If you don't examine your priors, if you're just marching merrily along,</v>

01:25:57.520 --> 01:26:02.000
<v Speaker 3>trusting the judgment of past generations, if they're right, you're in great</v>

01:26:02.000 --> 01:26:05.200
<v Speaker 3>shape. If they made a mistake, you're going to inherit that mistake</v>

01:26:05.200 --> 01:26:07.120
<v Speaker 3>and be stuck with the consequences.</v>

01:26:07.120 --> 01:26:11.520
<v Speaker 3>The story of the Septuagint is a story of men making mistakes</v>

01:26:11.520 --> 01:26:18.240
<v Speaker 3>piece by piece, small course deviations, culminating in the Western Church abandoning</v>

01:26:18.240 --> 01:26:21.040
<v Speaker 3>the source of scripture that God gave us.</v>

01:26:21.040 --> 01:26:26.240
<v Speaker 3>The Bible of Jesus, the Bible of the Apostles, the Bible of</v>

01:26:26.240 --> 01:26:29.760
<v Speaker 3>the Council of Nicaea, the Bible of the first four hundred years</v>

01:26:29.760 --> 01:26:32.800
<v Speaker 3>of the Christian Church was entirely Greek.</v>

01:26:32.800 --> 01:26:35.120
<v Speaker 3>That is the case that we're going to be making, and that</v>

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<v Speaker 3>has profound implications for the future of the church.</v>