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<v Speaker 1>is the 18th of December.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>I am Cory J.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Mahler and this is at any cost.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>I think I will probably just jump right into the questions and</v>

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<v Speaker 1>answers section since there's not really any housekeeping this time, except for</v>

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<v Speaker 1>the usual sort of things at the end of the episode.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>I will assume that the audio is fine for everyone, since I</v>

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<v Speaker 1>don't see any comments in the chat that it is not.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>So I will simply pull up the first question here.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>The first question is</v>

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<v Speaker 1>relatively long but a very simple question straightforward, so I will just</v>

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<v Speaker 1>give sort of the</v>

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<v Speaker 1>cliff note version of it as it were.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>How do we have faith and not doubt is essentially the question?</v>

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<v Speaker 1>And so there are a lot of places in scripture where it</v>

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<v Speaker 1>says basically if you have faith and you don't doubt, then</v>

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<v Speaker 1>certain things will happen.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>This is not sort of a prosperity gospel or therapeutic gospel or</v>

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<v Speaker 1>any of those various other I'll be generous and call them heterodoxies,</v>

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<v Speaker 1>but</v>

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<v Speaker 1>you have to look at the places in which this is said</v>

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<v Speaker 1>in scripture and many times you're dealing with Christ speaking in parables</v>

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<v Speaker 1>or speaking in riddles, which he very much enjoyed doing while he</v>

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<v Speaker 1>was serving in his ministry here on earth.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>And so for instance, I think it's probably good to start by</v>

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<v Speaker 1>looking at the fig tree.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Because</v>

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<v Speaker 1>when Christ curses the fig tree and and then it withers basically</v>

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<v Speaker 1>immediately and then will no longer produce fruit and so he basically</v>

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<v Speaker 1>may no one ever eat fruit from you again.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Does that mean that it is bad for the tree not to</v>

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<v Speaker 1>produce fruit in an off season.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>The answer for the tree is no.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>The answer for a human being, which is what he's getting at</v>

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<v Speaker 1>there, is yes.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>It's sort of akin to all of the parables about the thief</v>

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<v Speaker 1>coming in the night.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>You do not know when Christ is going to return, and so</v>

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<v Speaker 1>you shouldn't think well I'm young, I can sin for thirty years,</v>

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<v Speaker 1>and then I'll repent and everything will be fine, because Christ could</v>

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<v Speaker 1>come to morrow.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>He could come in the middle of this recording, and so probably</v>

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<v Speaker 1>not in the middle of this recording, there's some signs that aren't</v>

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<v Speaker 1>fulfilled, but he could come relatively soon.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>So, the point of the fig tree is that you don't put</v>

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<v Speaker 1>off producing those good fruits because you are a Christian and you</v>

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<v Speaker 1>should be producing those all the time.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>The point is not the tree itself, because obviously trees have a</v>

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<v Speaker 1>season. God created the seasons.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>It's not bad for the tree itself to not be producing in</v>

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<v Speaker 1>season. And so with regard to having faith and not doubting, part</v>

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<v Speaker 1>of it comes down to the measure of faith that God has</v>

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<v Speaker 1>given you, of course, and you can think of the Father who</v>

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<v Speaker 1>exclaims, Lord, I believe help my unbelief.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>There's nothing wrong with that prayer.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>That's a perfectly legitimate prayer for a man to pray because the</v>

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<v Speaker 1>measure of faith that you have been given is a gift from</v>

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<v Speaker 1>God. That's always important to remember that.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>That That</v>

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<v Speaker 1>your faith is not your own work.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>It is something given you by God.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Now you can pray for an increase of your faith.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>And of course, that's part of what you're praying for every time</v>

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<v Speaker 1>you pray the Lord's Prayer, and really any other prayers, particularly if</v>

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<v Speaker 1>you're going through the Psalms and use them as a prayer book,</v>

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<v Speaker 1>which they're sort of a hymnalslash prayer book, so you can use</v>

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<v Speaker 1>it in both ways.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>But</v>

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<v Speaker 1>insofar as not doubting is concerned, basically don't dwell on</v>

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<v Speaker 1>basically doubts, the possibility of doubts, because you can always find some</v>

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<v Speaker 1>little thread to pull at with anything.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>And</v>

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<v Speaker 1>in basically anything in life, if you start down that path, you're</v>

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<v Speaker 1>going to destroy whatever the thing is, which is why it's good</v>

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<v Speaker 1>to use the illustration of pulling on a thread If I find</v>

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<v Speaker 1>a thread in my scarf and start pulling on it, pretty soon</v>

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not going to have a scarf.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Now granted this one is wool and so it'd be kind of</v>

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<v Speaker 1>hard to do, but you get the idea.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>If, for instance, in your relationship with your spouse you find something</v>

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<v Speaker 1>that annoys you about your spouse, and you dwell on it, and</v>

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<v Speaker 1>you pick at it, and you poke at it, you're going to</v>

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<v Speaker 1>wind up divorced.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>And And you're going to have done that to yourself.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>So with regard to your faith, don't make shipwreck of your faith</v>

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<v Speaker 1>by finding some way in order to doubt.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Because you can always find some way to try to walk away</v>

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<v Speaker 1>from things.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Apostasy is very possible.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>So don't apostasize as sort of apostatize as sort of the basic</v>

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<v Speaker 1>thing here, the foundational truth.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>When it comes to having that certainty of faith, you need to</v>

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<v Speaker 1>be active in your prayer life.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>You need to read the Word of God because that is how</v>

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<v Speaker 1>God interacts with you.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>And trust in God that He will give you the measure of</v>

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<v Speaker 1>faith that is necessary to meet the challenges in your life, and</v>

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<v Speaker 1>to meet the challenges that will be brought up by the world,</v>

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<v Speaker 1>the flesh, and the devil with regard to your faith.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>And And there are a number of verses and passages scripture the</v>

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<v Speaker 1>individuals cited here and of course anyone can go look at that.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>This one happens to be on the forum and I try to</v>

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<v Speaker 1>do the ones on the forum first, so I think that's sort</v>

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<v Speaker 1>of the the basic answer to that question, perhaps I'll come back</v>

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<v Speaker 1>to that one at some point in the future.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's an important question that perhaps I will address in</v>

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<v Speaker 1>greater depth, so I'll make a note to do that.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>The next question is about pacifism and particularly with a reference to</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Dirk Willems.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>I'll just read this one because it's relatively short.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Among pacifists, one of the great heroes is Dirk Willems, who saved</v>

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<v Speaker 1>his enemy and got killed as a consequence.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>How do we argue against suicidal empathy?</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Anabaptists claim many martyrs.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>How to differentiate true martyrs from foolish people who got executed?</v>

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<v Speaker 1>And so a number of related questions there.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>I'll start by just briefly recounting who Dirk Williams Dirk Willems is,</v>

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<v Speaker 1>because many people are not going to know that name.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>There are of course many who will if they're familiar with Anabaptists</v>

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<v Speaker 1>and their claims, but many others have no idea who that man</v>

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<v Speaker 1>is. So Dirk Willems was, as you might have guessed, an Anabaptist</v>

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<v Speaker 1>who was imprisoned for being an Anabaptist because at the time in</v>

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<v Speaker 1>that particular area it was a crime to be an anabaptist, he</v>

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<v Speaker 1>escaped. And as he was fleeing, his pursuer fell through some thin</v>

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<v Speaker 1>ice. He turned around to help his pursuer and was recaptured as</v>

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<v Speaker 1>a result.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Notably the man who fell through the ice wanted to let him</v>

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<v Speaker 1>go, but he was reminded it was his duty he was basically</v>

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<v Speaker 1>the captor, the jailer, and so it was his duty to recapture</v>

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<v Speaker 1>him. And subsequent to being recaptured, he was burned at the stake.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>So</v>

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<v Speaker 1>the question would be, in his case, was it right or foolish</v>

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<v Speaker 1>to do what he did and</v>

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<v Speaker 1>that one comes down to how you view Anabaptist teaching because if</v>

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<v Speaker 1>you come down on the side of Anabaptist teaching being something that</v>

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<v Speaker 1>should be punished by the state, then he was a wicked man</v>

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<v Speaker 1>who needed to be punished, and so fleeing punishment for a crime</v>

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<v Speaker 1>you have in fact committed is anti-Christian.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>If you come down on the other side, and you're someone who</v>

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<v Speaker 1>believes in not freedom of religion, but freedom of denomination, and you</v>

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<v Speaker 1>think that he should have the right to teach whatever he pleases</v>

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<v Speaker 1>about scripture.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe not whatever he pleases, that's a little too broad, but within</v>

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<v Speaker 1>reason, you think that he should be at least w able to</v>

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<v Speaker 1>disagree, permitted to disagree without repercussions, with regard to the sacraments, with</v>

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<v Speaker 1>regard to baptism, specifically in this case, of course.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>If you come down on that side, then you're probably going to</v>

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<v Speaker 1>say, well, no, he was fleeing unjust persecution, and so he's permitted</v>

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<v Speaker 1>to do that.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>But of course, in both cases, it raises the question of which</v>

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<v Speaker 1>is sort of the core of this, the underlying question.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>When is it your duty as a Christian to stand your ground,</v>

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<v Speaker 1>even if it results in your death?</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Versus when are you permitted or even required according to wisdom and</v>

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<v Speaker 1>your duties before God and men not to do that, not to</v>

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<v Speaker 1>basically surrender yourself to death.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>And</v>

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<v Speaker 1>this is partly a wisdom call, but partly not, because it's going</v>

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<v Speaker 1>to be very obvious if you are called on to confess to</v>

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<v Speaker 1>confess Christ, and there is going to be very real consequences for</v>

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<v Speaker 1>doing that.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>So for instance, if we happen to have a particularly wicked government,</v>

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<v Speaker 1>which we do, and they start calling Christians before tribunals and saying</v>

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<v Speaker 1>renounce God, then you have to confess Christ and go to your</v>

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<v Speaker 1>death if necessary.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>That makes you a martyr, of course, and I'll get into what</v>

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<v Speaker 1>a martyr is in a second here.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>But that makes you a martyr, but that is your duty as</v>

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<v Speaker 1>a Christian.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>You do not get to deny Christ.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>We are not Muslims.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>We don't have a bunch of different kinds of lies that we</v>

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<v Speaker 1>are permitted to tell in order to make our life easier or</v>

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<v Speaker 1>more convenient.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>But But we're not going so far as the sort of mischaracterization</v>

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<v Speaker 1>I would say of Kant, but the one of which everyone is</v>

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<v Speaker 1>aware and when you get into this area of discussion with regard</v>

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<v Speaker 1>to when you have to be truthful.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>The example that is usually used is if a psychopathic killer comes</v>

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<v Speaker 1>to your door, do you have to say, Yes, my wife and</v>

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<v Speaker 1>children are home and they're hiding in the closet.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>The answer is no.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>And as a Christian you have no duty to tell that person</v>

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<v Speaker 1>the truth, because you don't have a duty to tell all truths</v>

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<v Speaker 1>at all times to all men.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>You have a duty to speak the truth about Christ and never</v>

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<v Speaker 1>deny him.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>And so that is sort of the dividing line there.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>But with regard to a martyr, a martyr is someone who dies</v>

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<v Speaker 1>for the faith</v>

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<v Speaker 1>who dies because of his Christian faith.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>And</v>

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<v Speaker 1>you're going to get people who get very nitpicky about that because</v>

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<v Speaker 1>they'll say, well, he died because he had political disagreements, but he</v>

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<v Speaker 1>was also killed because he was a Christian.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>I would say he's a martyr if that happens.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>This is a hypothetical man, I'm not saying this individual in this</v>

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<v Speaker 1>case, Willems.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>But</v>

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<v Speaker 1>whether or not someone is a martyr is a question essentially of</v>

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<v Speaker 1>whether or not he died because of his Christian faith.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>so perhaps an abstracted political example and illustration.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>The Rwandan genocide, if you actually run the numbers as it were,</v>

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<v Speaker 1>you can make a very strong argument that it was a politicide</v>

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<v Speaker 1>instead of a genocide.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Now, does that mean that it didn't have elements of being a</v>

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<v Speaker 1>genocide even if it were in fact mostly a politicide?</v>

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<v Speaker 1>The answer would be no, it still was a bit of both.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Regardless of</v>

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<v Speaker 1>that. I have a particular professor from undergrad who wouldn't want me</v>

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<v Speaker 1>to make that argument, but he's just wrong if he disagrees.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>When it comes to someone being a martyr, even if there are</v>

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<v Speaker 1>elements of having died for something else so you were killed because</v>

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<v Speaker 1>you were a member of a political party that the ruling class</v>

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<v Speaker 1>didn't like, but also because you're a Christian, I would say that</v>

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<v Speaker 1>counts as the person being a martyr.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Now, I'm not getting into the specific definition that the Roman Catholic</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Church uses because I don't believe in it.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Because anyone who dies for the faith is a martyr.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not going to add additional requirements to that.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>And so perhaps another ancillary point, but the traditional distinction between a</v>

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<v Speaker 1>martyr and a confessor is that a confessor doesn't die for the</v>

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<v Speaker 1>faith. He confesses the faith.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>And so Martin Luther was a confessor of the faith, not a</v>

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<v Speaker 1>martyr, because he was in fact not killed for the faith, despite</v>

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<v Speaker 1>the fact that both the emperor and the pope tried for quite</v>

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<v Speaker 1>a while and they just didn't succeed.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>So he almost became a martyr many times, but he was not</v>

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<v Speaker 1>a martyr, he was a confessor.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Sort of the distinction there.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>And so when it comes down to assessing whether someone did something</v>

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<v Speaker 1>foolish or not, it is really that question of did you have</v>

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<v Speaker 1>to confess Christ?</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Were you called on to either confess or deny Christ before men?</v>

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<v Speaker 1>And if you die for that you're a martyr.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>If you weren't called on to confess Christ and you sort of</v>

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<v Speaker 1>just chose to die, that's probably foolish.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>And so I'm thinking of the gentleman who decided he was going</v>

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<v Speaker 1>to sail onto an island full of crazed cannibals essentially.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>That is definitely more foolish than martyr.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know that I'd be willing to say that he there's</v>

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<v Speaker 1>absolutely nothing of martyrdom there.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>But he shouldn't have done it.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>It was dumb.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>It was foolish.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>That's not the way to evangelize some random tribe like that.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>That's i essentially suicide.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>It's not something you should do.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>And then s the last question here that I haven't really addressed</v>

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<v Speaker 1>yet is the suicidal empathy issue.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>And you can't really fix that issue without causing a lot of</v>

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<v Speaker 1>other problems.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Because it's not so much an individual issue, it's a structural issue.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>If you don't have a bunch of individuals living around your people</v>

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<v Speaker 1>who will take advantage of</v>

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<v Speaker 1>that, it's not a problem to have that desire to help others</v>

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<v Speaker 1>around you, if you're living in a society that is properly ordered.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Our problem today is that we are not living in a properly</v>

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<v Speaker 1>ordered society.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>We are living around some much more than others, unfortunately, for them,</v>

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<v Speaker 1>but we are living around hostile foreigners who do not have the</v>

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<v Speaker 1>same morals, who do not have the same concerns, who are going</v>

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<v Speaker 1>to take advantage of us because of the fact that we have</v>

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<v Speaker 1>empathy, sympathy, whatever you want to call it.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not getting into that nest that nest of vipers, quite frankly,</v>

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<v Speaker 1>with regard to people who think that you know empathy is a</v>

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<v Speaker 1>sin. Comes down to how you're defining your terms.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>But in this case, can you train someone to care</v>

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<v Speaker 1>about others and not run some risk of that being exploited?</v>

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<v Speaker 1>I think the answer is no.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>So you have to set up structural safeguards in your society, and</v>

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<v Speaker 1>then it's a good thing to have.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Now at the same time, you can certainly train up for instance</v>

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<v Speaker 1>your children not to simply care for everyone in the world because</v>

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<v Speaker 1>you can't do that.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>You have to train them who is your neighbor, care for your</v>

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<v Speaker 1>neighbor to whom do you owe a higher duty?</v>

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<v Speaker 1>If you have a higher duty to these people, so your family,</v>

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<v Speaker 1>for instance, probably the best example, naturally, can you fulfill that duty</v>

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<v Speaker 1>if instead you run off and pursue foreigners four thousand miles away</v>

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<v Speaker 1>who kill you and eat you?</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Well the answer is no.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>What you've done is you have neglected the higher and greater duty</v>

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<v Speaker 1>in pursuit of something that is not perhaps a duty at all.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Which would be sin.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>At the very least the sin of foolishness, and yes it is</v>

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<v Speaker 1>sinful to be a fool.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Scripture is abundantly clear on that one, many, many examples Examples.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>I think that pretty much answers that question, so I will move</v>

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<v Speaker 1>on to the next one.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>This one This one is another exegetical question, this one about Colossians</v>

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<v Speaker 1>3, 5 through 8.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>So we'll actually just pull that up since it's usually the best</v>

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<v Speaker 1>way to do that.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Pull up logos here.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Logos just likes to add more steps in order to.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Of course, now it looks like</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Well that's an interesting quirk.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Looks like OBS actually focuses on the individual tab instead of</v>

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<v Speaker 1>the window, which makes that a little harder.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Let me see if I can get it to do the right</v>

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<v Speaker 1>thing here.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, here we go.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>So reading from Colossians three, put to death therefore what is earthly</v>

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<v Speaker 1>in you, sexual immorality, impurity, passion, evil desired, and covetousness, which is</v>

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<v Speaker 1>idolatry. On account of these the wrath of God is coming.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>In these you two once walked when you were living in them,</v>

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<v Speaker 1>but now you must put them all away, anger, wrath, malice, slander,</v>

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<v Speaker 1>and obscene talk from your mouth.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>And so the question here, essentially, given the title of this particular</v>

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<v Speaker 1>post on the forum, what does it mean to put to death</v>

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<v Speaker 1>what is earthly in you?</v>

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<v Speaker 1>And I think really in a large way, the answer to the</v>

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<v Speaker 1>question is there in the verse, because when it speaks about that</v>

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<v Speaker 1>which is earthly in you, it gives the list of things that</v>

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<v Speaker 1>are earthly.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>It's not an exhaustive list, of course.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Seldom are the lists in the New Testament exhaustive, they're usually illustrative.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>But sexual immorality, impurity, passion, evil desire, covetousness, I idolatry.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>These are the things you are meant to put away.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>And so what it's saying is you have to master the flesh</v>

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<v Speaker 1>in the sense of the flesh being fallen and trying to pull</v>

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<v Speaker 1>you away from the things that are good.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Because the traditional formulation I used it earlier already in this episode,</v>

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<v Speaker 1>but the traditional formulation is that you are beset by the world,</v>

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<v Speaker 1>the flesh, and the devil.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>And you can put those in whichever order you want.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>They're going to differ over time.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Sometimes you'll be more tempted by the flesh.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Sometimes you'll be more tempted by the devil.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Sometimes by the world.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>So, you know, sort of concrete examples, sexual immorality is going to</v>

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<v Speaker 1>be a temptation of the flesh.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Pretty obvious on that one.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>When it comes to money, mammon, greed, that's more of a temptation</v>

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<v Speaker 1>of the world.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>There's a little bit of the flesh in there as well.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>But</v>

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<v Speaker 1>the other ones here, idolatry, obviously that's going to be a temptation</v>

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<v Speaker 1>of the devil to some degree.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>But yes, there's the world as well, because what is the worship</v>

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<v Speaker 1>of mammon ultimately?</v>

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<v Speaker 1>It's idolatry.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>You've set up another God in your heart, another thing to which</v>

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<v Speaker 1>you look for all good in your life, and you've made that</v>

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<v Speaker 1>your God, because the things to which you look for all good</v>

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<v Speaker 1>are in fact your God, to paraphrase the large catechism.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>And so when it comes to putting to death the flesh, the</v>

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<v Speaker 1>things that are earthly in you, it's not that the body is</v>

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<v Speaker 1>bad. Don't ever read it in that way.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>It's not in a Gnostic sense.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>It's in the sense of our current flesh is fallen because you</v>

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<v Speaker 1>know in sin did my mother conceive me.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>I'm going to wind up using that verse in almost every episode</v>

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<v Speaker 1>seemingly, but our flesh is fallen because we inherit original sin from</v>

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<v Speaker 1>our original father Adam.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>It is passed down from generation to generation to generation until the</v>

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<v Speaker 1>end of this universe.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Because once we are regenerated in the next life in paradise, the</v>

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<v Speaker 1>sinfulness that attaches to this flesh is removed, it's gone.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>We are no longer sinners, and so we will not sin.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>And so when it comes to this issue of putting to death</v>

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<v Speaker 1>the things in you that are earthly, it's earthly in the sense</v>

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<v Speaker 1>of the fallen earth, not earthly in the sense of just fleshly.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Granted, fleshly can mean either sinful or just of the flesh.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>I'm talking about the latter sense.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>And so food and drink aren't bad.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Right. Having sex with your spouse, not bad.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Sexual immorality is bad.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Drunkenness is bad.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Gluttony is bad.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Those are the things that you are putting to death, those are</v>

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<v Speaker 1>the things that you are disciplining your body to keep it under</v>

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<v Speaker 1>control. So that's basically the exegesis of that verse, and it really</v>

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<v Speaker 1>is sort of present there in the verse itself, but there's some</v>

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<v Speaker 1>things on which we can expand to get a fuller sense.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>So the next question is about the Nicene Creed, really about apostolic</v>

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<v Speaker 1>succession, but in the light of the Nicene Creed.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>I will</v>

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<v Speaker 1>go back to not having logos on the screen.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>We don't need it there.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>I think everyone knows the Nicene Creed, so I I won't pull</v>

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<v Speaker 1>that one up.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>But last week you suggested to someone to start their own home</v>

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<v Speaker 1>church if needed.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Creed that got me thinking about apostolic succession.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>The Nicene Creed contains the line We believe in one holy Catholic</v>

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<v Speaker 1>and Apostolic Church.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>What does apostolic mean here?</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Being based on the teaching of the apostles but not successive passing</v>

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<v Speaker 1>of office.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>And yes, that basically is the sense here.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>The apostolic succession is not the laying on of hands And one</v>

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<v Speaker 1>of the ways you can actually look at this is</v>

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<v Speaker 1>there are instances in the New Testament when the Holy Spirit is</v>

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<v Speaker 1>received via the laying on of hands.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>And there are instances where that is not the case.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>You can look at one of the cases with a centurion, there</v>

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<v Speaker 1>are a number of centurions in the New Testament, unsurprisingly for various</v>

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<v Speaker 1>historical reasons, but you have an instance where the Holy Spirit falls</v>

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<v Speaker 1>on these individuals as they hear the word.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>There's no laying on of hands.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Now granted this is not apostolic succession.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>We're not talking about, you know, bishops or anything here, but it's</v>

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<v Speaker 1>an important distinction to recognize.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>It is not necessary to have the laying on of hands to</v>

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<v Speaker 1>receive the Holy Spirit.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>It is not necessary to have the laying on of hands to</v>

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<v Speaker 1>have apostolic succession, because apostolic succession is a matter of teaching.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>It is a matter of following the doctrine of the apostles, which</v>

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<v Speaker 1>is to say Christianity, to obey the New Testament with a teaching.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Because what is the most important tradition that we have from the</v>

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<v Speaker 1>apostles? Well, it's the New Testament.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>It's the thing that they wrote down under the inspiration of the</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Spirit and passed on Christianity</v>

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<v Speaker 1>to us.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>That's what you have to follow to have apostolic succession.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>I know that there are churches, of course, and I'm just going</v>

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<v Speaker 1>to decline to name them here, you all know which ones I</v>

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<v Speaker 1>mean, because they're the only ones that make the claim.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Modulo, a couple exceptions.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>But you have churches that will try to claim that they have</v>

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<v Speaker 1>a direct line traced back all the way to the apostles.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>And the simple fact of the matter is, there isn't a single</v>

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<v Speaker 1>church that can actually truthfully make that claim.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>There's a pretty significant gray area where they can kind of argue</v>

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<v Speaker 1>that maybe this man knew this man and this man knew that</v>

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<v Speaker 1>man. But not really.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>There's no concrete proof.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>They can't prove it.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>They don't have any proof of it.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>And that's not cause for concern because apostolic succession is not the</v>

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<v Speaker 1>laying on of hands.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>It's not the physical the spirit is not transmitted with a physical</v>

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<v Speaker 1>touch of one man giving another man the backslap.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>And I'm not being dismissive or, you know, dealing with holy things</v>

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<v Speaker 1>in a light way when I you can call it the holy</v>

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<v Speaker 1>backslap because that's basically what they're trying to argue.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>And now were it something that were necessary, were this something that</v>

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<v Speaker 1>were a sacrament instituted by God and necessary to the faith, I</v>

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<v Speaker 1>would never speak about it in that way.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>But it's not.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Because again, what is succession is teaching the doctrine of the apostles.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Was Paul an apostle before he had hands laid on him?</v>

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<v Speaker 1>The answer is yes.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Now, of course, there are those who will try to argue, well,</v>

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<v Speaker 1>it was because he got it from God directly.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Well but okay.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>At the very least we've established the laying on of hands is</v>

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<v Speaker 1>not necessary.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>That's very clear from Scripture.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Just the same as it's not necessary for receiving the Holy Spirit</v>

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<v Speaker 1>to have the laying on of hands.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not saying it's a bad thing.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>There's nothing wrong with it as a tradition, but it's not necessary.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>And so no, there's nothing wrong with starting up a home church,</v>

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<v Speaker 1>you're not breaking with tradition and you're not causing problems with regard</v>

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<v Speaker 1>to apostolic succession.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Do bear in mind that most of the early churches were in</v>

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<v Speaker 1>fact home churches, because they were meeting in secret.</v>

00:26:20.400 --> 00:26:22.880
<v Speaker 1>Sometimes they were literally meeting in the tombs.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>And not all of them had an apostle present, certainly.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>The next one is sort of shifting gears, I guess, to the</v>

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<v Speaker 1>political, although also with a religious element still, unsurprisingly.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>You have stated on many occasions that you believe we will win</v>

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<v Speaker 1>because God Because God has made promises to Japheth, which is true.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>To play devil's advocate, isn't it possible that these promises have already</v>

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<v Speaker 1>been fulfilled and that we truly are in the last days?</v>

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<v Speaker 1>There are really two questions there.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>There and I'll answer them in order as it were.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>The first one is whether or not there's a possibility that those</v>

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<v Speaker 1>promises, and of course we're speaking about Noah's prophecy.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Whether or not those promises have been fulfilled?</v>

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<v Speaker 1>The answer is that they have but not fully, because there's no</v>

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<v Speaker 1>end point.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>The promise to Japheth is that he will be Christendom.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>He will dwell in the tents of Shem.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>And there's a little bit of hostility there in the actual grammar</v>

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<v Speaker 1>if you look at the the Greek terms used.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>And the context, of course.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>But with regard to being Christendom, that is an ongoing promise.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>That is from basically the New Testament era, as soon as the</v>

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<v Speaker 1>scriptures and the gospel reach Greece and then spread from there to</v>

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<v Speaker 1>the rest of the Roman Empire, and then the rest of Europe,</v>

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<v Speaker 1>of course, it's from that point to the end of time.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>And so there's a partial fulfillment, but not the full fulfillment.</v>

00:28:08.720 --> 00:28:10.640
<v Speaker 1>We see this all the time with prophecy.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>There's often either a cyclical fulfillment or a repeated fulfillment or a</v>

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<v Speaker 1>lesser and then a greater.</v>

00:28:17.280 --> 00:28:18.400
<v Speaker 1>That's sort of what we have here.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>There is the major fulfillment in a sense</v>

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<v Speaker 1>with regard to the centuries during which Europe was Christendom and Europe</v>

00:28:29.040 --> 00:28:33.760
<v Speaker 1>was ascendant, and then there is the not yet fulfilled with regard</v>

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<v Speaker 1>to the future.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Because it is an open ended promise, an open ended prophecy.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>There's no end date to it, except for of course the expiration</v>

00:28:42.480 --> 00:28:45.040
<v Speaker 1>date of this universe itself.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>And so the next question would be, are we in the last</v>

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<v Speaker 1>days? Well, I actually already pointed out in this episode that there</v>

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<v Speaker 1>are some signs and things that have not been fulfilled yet, and</v>

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<v Speaker 1>so are we in the last days?</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe, but are we in the ones that are right at the</v>

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<v Speaker 1>end? No, we're not yet.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Because there are things that must take place before Christ's return.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Now there aren't a lot, certainly, if you look at the way</v>

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<v Speaker 1>that things are going and how many things have been fulfilled, but</v>

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<v Speaker 1>not a lot is still some.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>So are we in the</v>

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<v Speaker 1>absolute last days?</v>

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<v Speaker 1>I would say no.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>And personally, I also don't think this is not, you know, necessarily</v>

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<v Speaker 1>like you you should believe this or you must believe this is</v>

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<v Speaker 1>just my personal belief with regard to this.</v>

00:29:35.440 --> 00:29:38.320
<v Speaker 1>This is take it or leave it, choose whatever you like.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think that we're in the last days.</v>

00:29:41.840 --> 00:29:43.920
<v Speaker 1>I think we will see a resurgence.</v>

00:29:43.920 --> 00:29:48.480
<v Speaker 1>I think that God is not quite done with this universe yet.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>I could be wrong on that.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>And</v>

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<v Speaker 1>I guess we will simply see.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>But</v>

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<v Speaker 1>as sort of a tangential issue, there are always those who want</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Wanna discuss if we're in the last days, is this the tribulation?</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Has Satan been unchained?</v>

00:30:06.240 --> 00:30:09.040
<v Speaker 1>Or you know, all these related questions.</v>

00:30:09.040 --> 00:30:11.280
<v Speaker 1>And to some degree it doesn't matter.</v>

00:30:11.280 --> 00:30:14.480
<v Speaker 1>Of course it matters in the sense that we kinda want to</v>

00:30:14.480 --> 00:30:17.600
<v Speaker 1>know what the ground rules are right now.</v>

00:30:17.600 --> 00:30:19.680
<v Speaker 1>Is Satan off his leash?</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Is he allowed to do whatever he pleases?</v>

00:30:21.920 --> 00:30:23.200
<v Speaker 1>Are we in the tribulation?</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Are things gonna get significantly worse than they already are, it would</v>

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<v Speaker 1>be nice to know those things, certainly.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>But at the same time, the way that I've always pointed it</v>

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<v Speaker 1>out is that</v>

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<v Speaker 1>just because</v>

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<v Speaker 1>we aren't in the last days, so say you lived in the</v>

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<v Speaker 1>1300s, you're nowhere near the last days, obviously, because we're living in</v>

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<v Speaker 1>the 2000s, and so they were nowhere near the last days.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Well, at the same time they were, because there isn't a man</v>

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<v Speaker 1>listening to me right now who is more than at the absolute</v>

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<v Speaker 1>most eighty years away from the grave.</v>

00:31:00.000 --> 00:31:05.040
<v Speaker 1>Okay, modulo advances in technology that maybe give you an extra forty</v>

00:31:05.200 --> 00:31:09.600
<v Speaker 1>years. Maybe that's pretty optimistic at this point.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>You are close to the end days.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Because the end days are the final judgment.</v>

00:31:14.880 --> 00:31:18.000
<v Speaker 1>Well you're close to the final judgment because you're Because you're mortal.</v>

00:31:18.000 --> 00:31:21.120
<v Speaker 1>And so you should always live as if you are not really</v>

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<v Speaker 1>far away from the last days.</v>

00:31:24.480 --> 00:31:26.880
<v Speaker 1>Because you personally are not.</v>

00:31:26.880 --> 00:31:30.800
<v Speaker 1>And in a very real sense, it doesn't matter to you if</v>

00:31:30.800 --> 00:31:34.720
<v Speaker 1>this universe is close to the last days, because you will always</v>

00:31:34.720 --> 00:31:42.560
<v Speaker 1>be close to the last days, because again you are mortal.</v>

00:31:42.560 --> 00:31:45.040
<v Speaker 1>And I do notice there have been a few questions in the</v>

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<v Speaker 1>chat. I don't know that I will necessarily get to those tonight</v>

00:31:48.800 --> 00:31:49.760
<v Speaker 1>because I have</v>

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<v Speaker 1>quite a few questions in my list as is, but I will</v>

00:31:54.480 --> 00:31:59.760
<v Speaker 1>note those down and add them to the growing list List.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>So the next question is actually about Bible translation versions.</v>

00:32:05.200 --> 00:32:08.080
<v Speaker 1>This one's a specific version.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Ask if I have any thoughts on the anointed Standard Translation and</v>

00:32:13.600 --> 00:32:18.080
<v Speaker 1>I'd actually not seen this one before, apparently came out not that</v>

00:32:18.080 --> 00:32:23.360
<v Speaker 1>long ago, thirty years, but that's not that long in the grand</v>

00:32:23.360 --> 00:32:24.560
<v Speaker 1>scheme of things.</v>

00:32:24.560 --> 00:32:25.280
<v Speaker 1>Time flies.</v>

00:32:26.320 --> 00:32:26.640
<v Speaker 1>But</v>

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<v Speaker 1>the question is what I think about it.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>It says that it's not based on the Masoretic.</v>

00:32:33.200 --> 00:32:35.840
<v Speaker 1>It's based on the Septuagint.</v>

00:32:35.840 --> 00:32:40.400
<v Speaker 1>And it's touted as the translation for whites, which</v>

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<v Speaker 1>I don't like that framing.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Not because I have a problem necessarily with, you know, tailoring something</v>

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<v Speaker 1>to a particular group, because if you translate something into German, you're</v>

00:32:53.440 --> 00:32:55.040
<v Speaker 1>kind of tailoring it to the Germans.</v>

00:32:55.040 --> 00:32:58.240
<v Speaker 1>Same for French and Dutch and Russian and everything else.</v>

00:32:58.240 --> 00:33:00.480
<v Speaker 1>And so in that sense you are tailoring it to a particular</v>

00:33:00.880 --> 00:33:04.080
<v Speaker 1>race when you're translating into the language of that race.</v>

00:33:04.080 --> 00:33:07.680
<v Speaker 1>Now in the case of English, English has become the lingua franca,</v>

00:33:07.680 --> 00:33:10.960
<v Speaker 1>which is a mildly amusing term at this point in history for</v>

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<v Speaker 1>a number of reasons, but</v>

00:33:14.480 --> 00:33:19.040
<v Speaker 1>If you're translating to English, you're still very much targeting the Anglo-Saxon</v>

00:33:19.040 --> 00:33:24.800
<v Speaker 1>race, essentially, and our very large diaspora at this point.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>So I went ahead and looked at the version.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't read a huge chunk of it.</v>

00:33:30.080 --> 00:33:32.640
<v Speaker 1>I read basically a bit of Romans.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>I was not particularly impressed.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>It does some weird things and is very heavy handed</v>

00:33:40.480 --> 00:33:45.200
<v Speaker 1>with what is essentially Christian identity, which is not Christian and also</v>

00:33:45.200 --> 00:33:47.440
<v Speaker 1>gets the identity wrong usually.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>So great deal of irony in that.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>I would not recommend it.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Don't use it.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Quite frankly, I don't think there's anything really wrong fundamentally with the</v>

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<v Speaker 1>ESV or the NASB or the NKJV or any of the others</v>

00:34:02.560 --> 00:34:04.640
<v Speaker 1>with regard to the New Testament.</v>

00:34:04.640 --> 00:34:08.000
<v Speaker 1>Because obviously in the New Testament they're based on the Greek because</v>

00:34:08.160 --> 00:34:09.440
<v Speaker 1>there's nothing else.</v>

00:34:09.440 --> 00:34:10.560
<v Speaker 1>It's only Greek.</v>

00:34:10.560 --> 00:34:12.080
<v Speaker 1>It's only ever been Greek.</v>

00:34:12.080 --> 00:34:14.800
<v Speaker 1>You have crazy people off in the corner arguing that Matthew is</v>

00:34:14.800 --> 00:34:16.240
<v Speaker 1>originally Hebrew.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Well, we don't have any transcripts of that.</v>

00:34:18.320 --> 00:34:19.200
<v Speaker 1>We don't have any people.</v>

00:34:19.280 --> 00:34:22.320
<v Speaker 1>pieces of papyri, we don't have anything because it wasn't.</v>

00:34:22.320 --> 00:34:23.120
<v Speaker 1>It's written in Greek.</v>

00:34:23.120 --> 00:34:25.520
<v Speaker 1>There's plays on words and things that work only in Greek and</v>

00:34:25.520 --> 00:34:26.320
<v Speaker 1>not Hebrew.</v>

00:34:26.320 --> 00:34:28.720
<v Speaker 1>But the New Testament is Greek.</v>

00:34:28.880 --> 00:34:32.480
<v Speaker 1>Everyone agrees on that except for some crazy people.</v>

00:34:32.480 --> 00:34:35.760
<v Speaker 1>So all of these translations are based on the Greek in the</v>

00:34:35.760 --> 00:34:38.880
<v Speaker 1>New Testament, so it's just fine to use any of 'em.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>With the tiny caveats that I've mentioned before, basically the word Gentiles</v>

00:34:43.120 --> 00:34:48.400
<v Speaker 1>is nonsense, and so when you see Gentiles, just read nations, ninety</v>

00:34:48.560 --> 00:34:51.120
<v Speaker 1>five percent of the time it means nations.</v>

00:34:51.120 --> 00:34:55.280
<v Speaker 1>Every so often it means member of the nations or something very</v>

00:34:55.280 --> 00:34:59.280
<v Speaker 1>close to nations, but it's sometimes it means heathen, which is a</v>

00:34:59.280 --> 00:35:03.280
<v Speaker 1>word we don't use that much anymore, which just means unbelieving nations.</v>

00:35:03.280 --> 00:35:04.160
<v Speaker 1>That's all it means.</v>

00:35:04.160 --> 00:35:07.360
<v Speaker 1>So just read nations when you see Gentiles and</v>

00:35:08.320 --> 00:35:10.560
<v Speaker 1>you basically got there.</v>

00:35:10.720 --> 00:35:14.400
<v Speaker 1>One other thing that I will mention with regard to the New</v>

00:35:14.560 --> 00:35:22.320
<v Speaker 1>Testament, certain translators play games because they're Judaizers</v>

00:35:22.400 --> 00:35:23.760
<v Speaker 1>is really what it comes down to.</v>

00:35:23.760 --> 00:35:28.080
<v Speaker 1>But so for instance, one of the times when Paul is addressing</v>

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<v Speaker 1>one of the groups of Jews that want to kill him, it</v>

00:35:31.120 --> 00:35:34.960
<v Speaker 1>says that he addresses them in the Hebrew language, is what some</v>

00:35:34.960 --> 00:35:37.520
<v Speaker 1>translations, modern translations say.</v>

00:35:37.520 --> 00:35:39.840
<v Speaker 1>Well the problem is what it actually says in the Greek is</v>

00:35:39.840 --> 00:35:43.760
<v Speaker 1>it addresses him in the language of the Hebrews.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>This is an important point.</v>

00:35:45.440 --> 00:35:49.440
<v Speaker 1>Those sound exactly the same, and they can be the same in</v>

00:35:49.520 --> 00:35:52.960
<v Speaker 1>a in a certain way, but what is meant when you say</v>

00:35:53.120 --> 00:35:58.560
<v Speaker 1>in the language of the Hebrews is the language that is used</v>

00:35:58.560 --> 00:36:02.720
<v Speaker 1>by the Hebrews at the time, which means Aramaic.</v>

00:36:02.720 --> 00:36:04.320
<v Speaker 1>That's what it's saying.</v>

00:36:04.320 --> 00:36:06.800
<v Speaker 1>We would just say Aramaic.</v>

00:36:06.800 --> 00:36:07.120
<v Speaker 1>But</v>

00:36:08.400 --> 00:36:12.800
<v Speaker 1>you could look at this for instance, there are a number of</v>

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<v Speaker 1>different times down through history where a population has adopted a foreign</v>

00:36:18.160 --> 00:36:23.280
<v Speaker 1>language and it has become the language of that population, that entire</v>

00:36:23.280 --> 00:36:27.440
<v Speaker 1>population. You can look particularly at the peoples we colonized.</v>

00:36:27.440 --> 00:36:31.600
<v Speaker 1>And so if you were to say the language of this group</v>

00:36:31.600 --> 00:36:37.120
<v Speaker 1>is X, it doesn't mean that X is the language that corresponds</v>

00:36:37.120 --> 00:36:38.400
<v Speaker 1>to that name.</v>

00:36:38.400 --> 00:36:41.200
<v Speaker 1>So, for instance, American</v>

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<v Speaker 1>We yes speak American English, but we speak English.</v>

00:36:45.760 --> 00:36:47.840
<v Speaker 1>We don't speak American.</v>

00:36:47.840 --> 00:36:49.600
<v Speaker 1>We speak English.</v>

00:36:49.600 --> 00:36:55.040
<v Speaker 1>And so you wouldn't say the language of the Americans.</v>

00:36:55.040 --> 00:36:56.560
<v Speaker 1>That sounds weird to our ear.</v>

00:36:56.560 --> 00:36:58.880
<v Speaker 1>And so they should not have translated it that way because what</v>

00:36:58.880 --> 00:37:00.240
<v Speaker 1>they were doing was Judaizing.</v>

00:37:00.240 --> 00:37:03.760
<v Speaker 1>They were trying to imply that he was speaking Hebrew, which he</v>

00:37:03.760 --> 00:37:05.840
<v Speaker 1>wasn't. He was speaking Aramaic.</v>

00:37:05.840 --> 00:37:09.040
<v Speaker 1>So that's one of the only other little nitpicky things that I</v>

00:37:09.040 --> 00:37:10.560
<v Speaker 1>would say with the translation.</v>

00:37:10.560 --> 00:37:15.120
<v Speaker 1>But other than that, by and large, any modern translation in English</v>

00:37:15.120 --> 00:37:18.320
<v Speaker 1>of the New Testament is going to be fine.</v>

00:37:18.320 --> 00:37:22.080
<v Speaker 1>The Old Testament is a different matter, but I've gone over that</v>

00:37:22.080 --> 00:37:28.080
<v Speaker 1>previously, so I won't repeat that here.</v>

00:37:28.080 --> 00:37:31.680
<v Speaker 1>The next question, sort of a practical one.</v>

00:37:31.680 --> 00:37:35.280
<v Speaker 1>How ought men to find good husbands for their daughters?</v>

00:37:35.280 --> 00:37:39.040
<v Speaker 1>That is a load-bearing prepositional phrase if ever there were one.</v>

00:37:39.040 --> 00:37:42.400
<v Speaker 1>Since sending them to college is so foolish.</v>

00:37:43.040 --> 00:37:45.680
<v Speaker 1>Yes, I'm going to agree, of course, that sending them off to</v>

00:37:45.680 --> 00:37:50.000
<v Speaker 1>college is College is incredibly foolish these days and pretty much always</v>

00:37:50.000 --> 00:37:50.720
<v Speaker 1>has been.</v>

00:37:50.720 --> 00:37:52.480
<v Speaker 1>It's not advantageous.</v>

00:37:52.480 --> 00:37:57.760
<v Speaker 1>It is designed basically to destroy women and also the university system</v>

00:37:57.760 --> 00:37:59.360
<v Speaker 1>in the process.</v>

00:37:59.360 --> 00:38:02.960
<v Speaker 1>Discussion for another time.</v>

00:38:02.960 --> 00:38:06.720
<v Speaker 1>But the question then is how do you find husbands for your</v>

00:38:06.720 --> 00:38:08.800
<v Speaker 1>daughters basically to keep them out of trouble?</v>

00:38:08.800 --> 00:38:12.080
<v Speaker 1>Because if you marry them off younger, you're going to avoid a</v>

00:38:12.080 --> 00:38:13.120
<v Speaker 1>lot of the issues.</v>

00:38:13.120 --> 00:38:16.000
<v Speaker 1>Simple fact of the matter.</v>

00:38:16.000 --> 00:38:20.320
<v Speaker 1>I would say first you want to look at how God has</v>

00:38:20.320 --> 00:38:23.600
<v Speaker 1>designed the system to work ideally.</v>

00:38:23.600 --> 00:38:27.440
<v Speaker 1>And we went over this in Stone Choir a little bit, and</v>

00:38:27.440 --> 00:38:29.360
<v Speaker 1>I've addressed it elsewhere as well.</v>

00:38:29.360 --> 00:38:29.680
<v Speaker 1>But</v>

00:38:30.640 --> 00:38:33.200
<v Speaker 1>if you look at the way God designed the system, and I'm</v>

00:38:33.120 --> 00:38:36.560
<v Speaker 1>just going to speak about Europeans at this point, because talking about</v>

00:38:36.560 --> 00:38:39.520
<v Speaker 1>the third world with all of the of the inbreeding and other</v>

00:38:39.680 --> 00:38:42.000
<v Speaker 1>problems is a whole can of worms I just don't want to</v>

00:38:42.000 --> 00:38:42.720
<v Speaker 1>get into.</v>

00:38:42.720 --> 00:38:45.920
<v Speaker 1>And it's not relevant, quite frankly, to answering the question for this</v>

00:38:45.920 --> 00:38:53.040
<v Speaker 1>audience. With regard to marriage, you're going to look at the way</v>

00:38:53.040 --> 00:38:56.160
<v Speaker 1>God has designed the system and the best indicator we have for</v>

00:38:56.160 --> 00:38:58.240
<v Speaker 1>that is peak fertility.</v>

00:38:58.240 --> 00:39:01.600
<v Speaker 1>Because children are a blessing from the Lord.</v>

00:39:01.600 --> 00:39:08.640
<v Speaker 1>Marriage is partly, not even necessarily primarily, but partly for the creation</v>

00:39:08.640 --> 00:39:12.240
<v Speaker 1>of children, the propagation of the species.</v>

00:39:12.240 --> 00:39:15.040
<v Speaker 1>So what is peak fertility?</v>

00:39:15.040 --> 00:39:20.880
<v Speaker 1>Peak fertility for white populations is essentially third or fourth cousins.</v>

00:39:20.880 --> 00:39:24.320
<v Speaker 1>Now, some people hear third or fourth cousin cousin and they think</v>

00:39:24.400 --> 00:39:26.960
<v Speaker 1>ah I don't want to marry my relative.</v>

00:39:26.960 --> 00:39:31.280
<v Speaker 1>Okay, your third or fourth cousin is pretty distant.</v>

00:39:31.280 --> 00:39:35.360
<v Speaker 1>I'll I could pull up a chart, I think, but</v>

00:39:36.240 --> 00:39:40.160
<v Speaker 1>let's see if I have a c a cousin chart.</v>

00:39:40.160 --> 00:39:43.280
<v Speaker 1>For those who aren't familiar with how this works</v>

00:39:44.320 --> 00:39:48.960
<v Speaker 1>So it sounds like you know, third or fourth cousin is closely</v>

00:39:48.960 --> 00:39:50.400
<v Speaker 1>related, but it's not.</v>

00:39:50.400 --> 00:39:57.440
<v Speaker 1>When you're talking about problems with consanguinity or inbreeding, whichever term you</v>

00:39:57.440 --> 00:39:58.640
<v Speaker 1>want to use for that.</v>

00:39:58.640 --> 00:40:02.880
<v Speaker 1>You're really talking about first cousins and a lot of places in</v>

00:40:02.880 --> 00:40:08.560
<v Speaker 1>the Western world have banned first cousin marriage, and we should all</v>

00:40:08.560 --> 00:40:10.240
<v Speaker 1>ban it, because it is not a good idea.</v>

00:40:10.160 --> 00:40:12.480
<v Speaker 1>that one is a bad idea.</v>

00:40:12.480 --> 00:40:16.240
<v Speaker 1>But when you get out to third or fourth cousin, you're not</v>

00:40:16.240 --> 00:40:20.480
<v Speaker 1>talking about any of those problems with being too closely genetically related</v>

00:40:20.560 --> 00:40:25.040
<v Speaker 1>or anything like that You're talking about the way God has designed</v>

00:40:25.040 --> 00:40:29.840
<v Speaker 1>it, because you are meant to marry people within your own nation.</v>

00:40:29.840 --> 00:40:32.800
<v Speaker 1>And by the time you start getting out to a certain number</v>

00:40:32.800 --> 00:40:36.160
<v Speaker 1>of cousins, you basically out to the edges of your own nation.</v>

00:40:36.880 --> 00:40:41.840
<v Speaker 1>And so you want to look for places where you can find</v>

00:40:41.840 --> 00:40:45.920
<v Speaker 1>someone who is that level of related to you to be a</v>

00:40:45.920 --> 00:40:48.000
<v Speaker 1>husband for your daughters.</v>

00:40:48.000 --> 00:40:52.800
<v Speaker 1>Now Now, historically, the way that that's going to work is that</v>

00:40:52.800 --> 00:40:55.840
<v Speaker 1>you're going to have this is probably going to be a little</v>

00:40:55.840 --> 00:41:00.480
<v Speaker 1>bit small on the screen, but I guess I will put a</v>

00:41:00.480 --> 00:41:02.720
<v Speaker 1>link to it in the show notes.</v>

00:41:03.520 --> 00:41:08.240
<v Speaker 1>But historically, with regard to trying to find a spouse for your</v>

00:41:08.240 --> 00:41:11.760
<v Speaker 1>daughters, you're going to have a lot of good options because you'll</v>

00:41:11.760 --> 00:41:16.240
<v Speaker 1>have extended family, you'll have family get togethers, you'll have all these</v>

00:41:16.240 --> 00:41:20.720
<v Speaker 1>opportunities in order to find someone who is compatible, and there's nothing</v>

00:41:20.720 --> 00:41:22.800
<v Speaker 1>wrong with talking about compatibility.</v>

00:41:22.800 --> 00:41:25.280
<v Speaker 1>Some of that grows over time, but some of it should be</v>

00:41:25.280 --> 00:41:26.480
<v Speaker 1>there at the beginning.</v>

00:41:26.480 --> 00:41:31.440
<v Speaker 1>You had opportunities to find compatible individuals for your daughters.</v>

00:41:31.440 --> 00:41:34.800
<v Speaker 1>That is somewhat challenging today for a number of reasons.</v>

00:41:34.800 --> 00:41:37.760
<v Speaker 1>One of the chief reasons is that most people have so few</v>

00:41:37.760 --> 00:41:42.640
<v Speaker 1>children, and so there are simply fewer individuals available.</v>

00:41:42.640 --> 00:41:45.440
<v Speaker 1>And there's also the issue of many of them have gone off</v>

00:41:45.440 --> 00:41:49.440
<v Speaker 1>to university and then they have moved away, they've gone out of</v>

00:41:49.440 --> 00:41:52.720
<v Speaker 1>state, they're five thousand miles away from their family, they're living in</v>

00:41:52.720 --> 00:41:56.080
<v Speaker 1>a foreign country, whatever it happens to be.</v>

00:41:56.080 --> 00:41:58.480
<v Speaker 1>That makes things more challenging.</v>

00:41:58.480 --> 00:42:02.560
<v Speaker 1>And so you're going to have to do the best you can</v>

00:42:02.560 --> 00:42:05.600
<v Speaker 1>with what is available to you.</v>

00:42:05.600 --> 00:42:09.120
<v Speaker 1>Part of that is going to be spending the time investing the</v>

00:42:09.120 --> 00:42:12.880
<v Speaker 1>time and the effort in simply having the connections that make it</v>

00:42:12.880 --> 00:42:15.440
<v Speaker 1>possible to know who is available.</v>

00:42:15.440 --> 00:42:21.120
<v Speaker 1>Just knowing how many men are around who are the right sort</v>

00:42:21.120 --> 00:42:23.840
<v Speaker 1>of men and the right age.</v>

00:42:23.840 --> 00:42:27.520
<v Speaker 1>The age is, of course, broader for men than women, but part</v>

00:42:27.520 --> 00:42:29.360
<v Speaker 1>of it is building up those connections.</v>

00:42:29.360 --> 00:42:33.200
<v Speaker 1>This is something that historically was one of the duties, as it</v>

00:42:33.200 --> 00:42:38.000
<v Speaker 1>were, of women, because the women were the ones who kept track</v>

00:42:38.000 --> 00:42:40.320
<v Speaker 1>of what was going on in the extended family.</v>

00:42:40.320 --> 00:42:42.400
<v Speaker 1>And then the father, of course, was the one who had the</v>

00:42:42.400 --> 00:42:46.560
<v Speaker 1>veto power, the sign-off on okay, yes, you can marry my daughter,</v>

00:42:46.560 --> 00:42:48.640
<v Speaker 1>no, you cannot marry my daughter.</v>

00:42:48.640 --> 00:42:51.200
<v Speaker 1>But the women sort of kept track of that.</v>

00:42:51.200 --> 00:42:54.960
<v Speaker 1>That's something that we need to rebuild because we have allowed it</v>

00:42:54.960 --> 00:42:59.040
<v Speaker 1>to just completely atrophy, basically to turn to dust.</v>

00:42:59.040 --> 00:43:00.880
<v Speaker 1>It no longer exists in our minds.</v>

00:43:00.880 --> 00:43:04.240
<v Speaker 1>We don't even send holiday cards to people anymore, which seems like</v>

00:43:04.240 --> 00:43:06.240
<v Speaker 1>such a trivial thing, but it's not.</v>

00:43:06.240 --> 00:43:11.360
<v Speaker 1>It's sort of the m bare minimum level of maintaining that relationship</v>

00:43:11.360 --> 00:43:13.520
<v Speaker 1>with your extended family.</v>

00:43:13.760 --> 00:43:16.320
<v Speaker 1>You should be doing things with them when you can if they</v>

00:43:16.320 --> 00:43:18.560
<v Speaker 1>live nearby.</v>

00:43:18.560 --> 00:43:18.880
<v Speaker 1>So</v>

00:43:20.080 --> 00:43:24.960
<v Speaker 1>given the challenges that we face, I think the first thing you</v>

00:43:24.960 --> 00:43:30.160
<v Speaker 1>want to do is identify the potential pool, and then from there,</v>

00:43:30.160 --> 00:43:32.640
<v Speaker 1>pick the best candidate for your daughters.</v>

00:43:32.640 --> 00:43:35.680
<v Speaker 1>But it's going to take some time and effort in order to</v>

00:43:35.680 --> 00:43:37.760
<v Speaker 1>identify that pool of men.</v>

00:43:37.760 --> 00:43:41.760
<v Speaker 1>Now, if you can't find someone who's within that ideal window of</v>

00:43:41.840 --> 00:43:44.640
<v Speaker 1>you know third to fifth cousin, whatever it happens to be, it</v>

00:43:44.640 --> 00:43:46.640
<v Speaker 1>varies a little one population to the next.</v>

00:43:46.640 --> 00:43:50.240
<v Speaker 1>But if you can't find someone who is within that?</v>

00:43:50.240 --> 00:43:55.040
<v Speaker 1>Just find someone who is of the same nation as you.</v>

00:43:55.040 --> 00:43:55.920
<v Speaker 1>That's fine.</v>

00:43:55.920 --> 00:43:57.760
<v Speaker 1>There's nothing wrong with that.</v>

00:43:57.760 --> 00:44:02.560
<v Speaker 1>And you're going to find plenty of those men around.</v>

00:44:02.560 --> 00:44:04.480
<v Speaker 1>Where are you going to find them?</v>

00:44:04.480 --> 00:44:07.760
<v Speaker 1>Quite frankly, these days, actually, you're probably going to have an easier</v>

00:44:07.760 --> 00:44:10.560
<v Speaker 1>time finding men than women in the churches.</v>

00:44:10.560 --> 00:44:14.160
<v Speaker 1>Which is a different problem and a different thing to address another</v>

00:44:14.160 --> 00:44:16.880
<v Speaker 1>time, but there are going to be plenty of good men in</v>

00:44:16.880 --> 00:44:22.400
<v Speaker 1>the churches, in the good churches, particularly now that we have better</v>

00:44:22.400 --> 00:44:27.760
<v Speaker 1>churches starting up, and so those connections are being rebuilt, particularly in</v>

00:44:27.760 --> 00:44:33.200
<v Speaker 1>the actually proper traditional conservative churches that are now being started up</v>

00:44:33.200 --> 00:44:37.440
<v Speaker 1>in order to basically rescue people out of the shipwreck that is</v>

00:44:37.440 --> 00:44:40.880
<v Speaker 1>the mainstream churches as it were.</v>

00:44:40.880 --> 00:44:43.440
<v Speaker 1>So there's no easy answer really.</v>

00:44:43.440 --> 00:44:46.960
<v Speaker 1>There's no just, you know, here's where you find husbands for your</v>

00:44:46.960 --> 00:44:51.360
<v Speaker 1>daughters. That's not the world we live in, unfortunately.</v>

00:44:51.360 --> 00:44:56.320
<v Speaker 1>We face challenges that previous generations never had to face.</v>

00:44:56.320 --> 00:45:01.360
<v Speaker 1>There are fewer children, they're more spread out, many people have delayed</v>

00:45:01.360 --> 00:45:04.560
<v Speaker 1>marriage. There are some very real troubles, very real problems.</v>

00:45:04.560 --> 00:45:09.120
<v Speaker 1>But with regard to your daughters, the recommendation I would the strong</v>

00:45:09.120 --> 00:45:12.880
<v Speaker 1>recommendation I would still give is marry them off young.</v>

00:45:12.880 --> 00:45:14.320
<v Speaker 1>You're going to avoid a lot of problems.</v>

00:45:14.320 --> 00:45:17.200
<v Speaker 1>Now, when I say young, I'm not saying sixteen, so for the</v>

00:45:17.200 --> 00:45:20.160
<v Speaker 1>crazy people, I'm a Western European.</v>

00:45:20.160 --> 00:45:23.760
<v Speaker 1>The average age for marriage for women historically in Western European countries</v>

00:45:23.760 --> 00:45:26.080
<v Speaker 1>was somewhere between twenty one and twenty four.</v>

00:45:26.080 --> 00:45:28.080
<v Speaker 1>That's what I mean by young.</v>

00:45:28.080 --> 00:45:29.680
<v Speaker 1>Because that is</v>

00:45:30.640 --> 00:45:34.960
<v Speaker 1>old enough that you don't run into the the weirdness of marrying</v>

00:45:34.960 --> 00:45:37.600
<v Speaker 1>off your teenage daughter.</v>

00:45:37.600 --> 00:45:37.920
<v Speaker 1>And</v>

00:45:38.880 --> 00:45:43.040
<v Speaker 1>you also will run you will not run into the problems of</v>

00:45:43.040 --> 00:45:45.280
<v Speaker 1>having a woman who is in her late twenties</v>

00:45:46.160 --> 00:45:51.200
<v Speaker 1>or late thirties or worse unmarried.</v>

00:45:51.200 --> 00:45:54.880
<v Speaker 1>Because by the time a woman gets to that age, there are</v>

00:45:54.960 --> 00:45:56.640
<v Speaker 1>a lot of other problems.</v>

00:45:56.640 --> 00:45:58.960
<v Speaker 1>A topic for another time to get into that one because that</v>

00:45:58.960 --> 00:46:03.040
<v Speaker 1>one's sort of long and involved, but I think that's sort of</v>

00:46:03.040 --> 00:46:06.960
<v Speaker 1>the the short version of the advice in order to try and</v>

00:46:06.960 --> 00:46:07.600
<v Speaker 1>find</v>

00:46:08.480 --> 00:46:11.520
<v Speaker 1>proper Christian husbands for your daughters.</v>

00:46:12.160 --> 00:46:17.600
<v Speaker 1>You aren't going to find perfect men, and your daughters aren't perfect.</v>

00:46:17.600 --> 00:46:19.840
<v Speaker 1>You know that better than any other man on the face of</v>

00:46:19.840 --> 00:46:23.920
<v Speaker 1>the planet, undoubtedly, but you want to find them good spouses.</v>

00:46:23.920 --> 00:46:26.080
<v Speaker 1>And there are men still available.</v>

00:46:26.320 --> 00:46:28.480
<v Speaker 1>So put in the time and the effort.</v>

00:46:28.480 --> 00:46:29.680
<v Speaker 1>Build up that network.</v>

00:46:29.680 --> 00:46:30.880
<v Speaker 1>Have other people help you.</v>

00:46:30.880 --> 00:46:33.200
<v Speaker 1>It always helps to have more eyes on the problem.</v>

00:46:33.200 --> 00:46:36.080
<v Speaker 1>If you're the only one doing the work, the only one putting</v>

00:46:36.080 --> 00:46:38.560
<v Speaker 1>in the time, it may seem insurmountable.</v>

00:46:38.560 --> 00:46:40.720
<v Speaker 1>But if you get all of the old ladies at church to</v>

00:46:40.720 --> 00:46:47.840
<v Speaker 1>help, it's probably going to be a lot easier.</v>

00:46:47.840 --> 00:46:52.720
<v Speaker 1>Uh question about my favorite tank and words of encouragement to younger</v>

00:46:52.720 --> 00:46:55.360
<v Speaker 1>men. I think I will save both of those for next time</v>

00:46:55.360 --> 00:47:00.960
<v Speaker 1>simply because they are totally unrelated as it were, but asked as</v>

00:47:00.960 --> 00:47:04.080
<v Speaker 1>subpoints of a major question.</v>

00:47:04.560 --> 00:47:07.840
<v Speaker 1>What is with the music of the Stone Choir podcast?</v>

00:47:07.840 --> 00:47:09.920
<v Speaker 1>Does it have meaning or is it just crazy?</v>

00:47:09.920 --> 00:47:11.920
<v Speaker 1>Literally synths and sped up hymns.</v>

00:47:11.920 --> 00:47:14.880
<v Speaker 1>It is, in fact, basically that, yes.</v>

00:47:14.880 --> 00:47:19.440
<v Speaker 1>Now I picked them intentionally, I did pick them deliberately.</v>

00:47:19.440 --> 00:47:19.760
<v Speaker 1>And</v>

00:47:20.960 --> 00:47:26.080
<v Speaker 1>the information about the hymns is available on the Stone Cour Stone</v>

00:47:26.080 --> 00:47:29.040
<v Speaker 1>Choir website under the resources tab, so you can go and look</v>

00:47:29.040 --> 00:47:30.000
<v Speaker 1>at that.</v>

00:47:30.000 --> 00:47:35.200
<v Speaker 1>But I'm just going to plead that Germans are allowed to resort</v>

00:47:35.200 --> 00:47:36.560
<v Speaker 1>to electronica.</v>

00:47:36.560 --> 00:47:42.560
<v Speaker 1>That's going to be my answer for that one.</v>

00:47:42.640 --> 00:47:49.600
<v Speaker 1>Drink a little bit of tea.</v>

00:47:49.680 --> 00:47:52.480
<v Speaker 1>The next question, another question about marriage.</v>

00:47:52.480 --> 00:47:57.120
<v Speaker 1>Maybe sensing a theme, unsurprising given the current challenges of which we're</v>

00:47:57.120 --> 00:47:59.200
<v Speaker 1>all certainly aware.</v>

00:47:59.200 --> 00:48:03.280
<v Speaker 1>I'm really struggling with how to inform future spouse material on my</v>

00:48:03.280 --> 00:48:07.120
<v Speaker 1>beliefs. The last time I did it ended in her divorcing me.</v>

00:48:07.120 --> 00:48:10.240
<v Speaker 1>I know that they have zero political opinions with any weight, but</v>

00:48:10.240 --> 00:48:14.400
<v Speaker 1>issues like not allowing my future children to marry non-whites is a</v>

00:48:14.400 --> 00:48:18.720
<v Speaker 1>real problem.</v>

00:48:18.800 --> 00:48:19.280
<v Speaker 1>The first</v>

00:48:20.400 --> 00:48:25.760
<v Speaker 1>sort of initial response to this would be: you don't need to</v>

00:48:25.760 --> 00:48:32.560
<v Speaker 1>inform your girlfriend, your fiance, your wife, about everything when it comes</v>

00:48:32.560 --> 00:48:33.600
<v Speaker 1>to politics.</v>

00:48:33.600 --> 00:48:37.040
<v Speaker 1>Because quite frankly, women shouldn't care that much.</v>

00:48:37.040 --> 00:48:40.400
<v Speaker 1>Women should be involved with other things in politics.</v>

00:48:40.400 --> 00:48:42.800
<v Speaker 1>Politics is a man's game.</v>

00:48:42.800 --> 00:48:43.120
<v Speaker 1>And</v>

00:48:44.000 --> 00:48:47.600
<v Speaker 1>it is unfortunate how many women are deeply invested in it now</v>

00:48:47.840 --> 00:48:52.080
<v Speaker 1>partly because men have abandoned the field, partly because women are doing</v>

00:48:52.080 --> 00:48:54.640
<v Speaker 1>things they shouldn't be doing, but</v>

00:48:55.520 --> 00:48:59.280
<v Speaker 1>you just don't need to discuss everything with her.</v>

00:48:59.280 --> 00:49:00.640
<v Speaker 1>You don't.</v>

00:49:00.640 --> 00:49:03.920
<v Speaker 1>Just like you don't need to discuss everything about your job with</v>

00:49:03.920 --> 00:49:04.560
<v Speaker 1>your wife.</v>

00:49:04.560 --> 00:49:06.640
<v Speaker 1>You can leave some of that stuff at the office, as it</v>

00:49:06.640 --> 00:49:09.520
<v Speaker 1>were, whatever your office happens to be.</v>

00:49:09.520 --> 00:49:12.480
<v Speaker 1>So do you need to discuss it with her?</v>

00:49:12.480 --> 00:49:13.680
<v Speaker 1>Maybe think about that.</v>

00:49:13.680 --> 00:49:15.840
<v Speaker 1>Maybe don't bring up every topic with her.</v>

00:49:15.840 --> 00:49:18.560
<v Speaker 1>I'm not saying that you keep things from your wife, I know</v>

00:49:18.560 --> 00:49:20.800
<v Speaker 1>there are some women who will hear what I said and get</v>

00:49:20.800 --> 00:49:22.400
<v Speaker 1>all up in arms about it.</v>

00:49:22.400 --> 00:49:25.680
<v Speaker 1>Rather I'm saying they're simply things that do not concern women.</v>

00:49:25.680 --> 00:49:28.000
<v Speaker 1>And so they don't need to hear about them, they don't need</v>

00:49:28.000 --> 00:49:29.040
<v Speaker 1>to know about them.</v>

00:49:29.040 --> 00:49:33.920
<v Speaker 1>If you want to discuss them, discuss them with your male friends.</v>

00:49:33.920 --> 00:49:34.240
<v Speaker 1>So</v>

00:49:35.200 --> 00:49:38.720
<v Speaker 1>that addresses sort of the initial part of the question, but then</v>

00:49:38.720 --> 00:49:42.080
<v Speaker 1>the weightier, the more important part of the question is</v>

00:49:43.600 --> 00:49:49.440
<v Speaker 1>really in essence, how do you manage to get your wife to</v>

00:49:49.440 --> 00:49:53.600
<v Speaker 1>agree with you on the major important issues so that you don't</v>

00:49:53.600 --> 00:49:58.960
<v Speaker 1>wind up with some enormous fight in the future over what you</v>

00:49:58.960 --> 00:50:01.440
<v Speaker 1>want to do with regard to your children.</v>

00:50:01.440 --> 00:50:03.600
<v Speaker 1>And that's a legitimate concern.</v>

00:50:03.600 --> 00:50:04.240
<v Speaker 1>That is</v>

00:50:05.600 --> 00:50:08.400
<v Speaker 1>Important, certainly.</v>

00:50:08.400 --> 00:50:11.840
<v Speaker 1>I think in part it's not going to matter.</v>

00:50:11.840 --> 00:50:17.040
<v Speaker 1>And the reason I say that is because there's not that much</v>

00:50:17.040 --> 00:50:25.440
<v Speaker 1>time left before things are pretty well decided in most Western nations.</v>

00:50:25.440 --> 00:50:30.000
<v Speaker 1>It's going to be very obvious, even to women who are not</v>

00:50:30.000 --> 00:50:34.400
<v Speaker 1>political and not involved in this stuff, just just how bad things</v>

00:50:34.400 --> 00:50:40.400
<v Speaker 1>are for the white population, and just how things are trending in</v>

00:50:40.400 --> 00:50:42.960
<v Speaker 1>basically every Western nation.</v>

00:50:42.960 --> 00:50:47.200
<v Speaker 1>And so you're not going to have to explain it to her.</v>

00:50:47.360 --> 00:50:50.560
<v Speaker 1>Because it's going to be extremely obvious.</v>

00:50:50.560 --> 00:50:54.880
<v Speaker 1>What you want to do is when she starts to notice those</v>

00:50:54.880 --> 00:50:58.320
<v Speaker 1>things, and she inevitably will notice some of them, not all of</v>

00:50:58.320 --> 00:51:02.560
<v Speaker 1>them, but some of them, you want to be there in order</v>

00:51:02.560 --> 00:51:07.200
<v Speaker 1>to help her through that, in order to help guide her through</v>

00:51:07.200 --> 00:51:11.120
<v Speaker 1>that and discuss these things with her and recommend</v>

00:51:12.000 --> 00:51:15.120
<v Speaker 1>easily digestible resources.</v>

00:51:15.120 --> 00:51:19.360
<v Speaker 1>Don't hand her, you know, here's mine kamf.</v>

00:51:19.360 --> 00:51:21.760
<v Speaker 1>Maybe don't start there.</v>

00:51:21.920 --> 00:51:22.240
<v Speaker 1>But</v>

00:51:23.520 --> 00:51:27.040
<v Speaker 1>you want to be the one who is there for her when</v>

00:51:27.040 --> 00:51:31.120
<v Speaker 1>the world looks like it is all going to pieces.</v>

00:51:31.120 --> 00:51:33.920
<v Speaker 1>Because that's one of your roles as a husband.</v>

00:51:33.920 --> 00:51:36.880
<v Speaker 1>Your role as the man is to be the rock, to be</v>

00:51:36.880 --> 00:51:39.920
<v Speaker 1>the one who is firmly founded.</v>

00:51:39.920 --> 00:51:42.240
<v Speaker 1>You have to make her feel safe.</v>

00:51:42.240 --> 00:51:46.640
<v Speaker 1>And so if you start bringing up issues about how bad the</v>

00:51:46.640 --> 00:51:49.440
<v Speaker 1>world is that everything's falling apart and this is terrible.</v>

00:51:49.440 --> 00:51:52.800
<v Speaker 1>And if you do that, you're going to make her feel insecure</v>

00:51:52.800 --> 00:51:53.440
<v Speaker 1>and unsafe.</v>

00:51:53.440 --> 00:51:57.120
<v Speaker 1>You're doing the exact opposite of what you're supposed to do as</v>

00:51:57.120 --> 00:51:58.480
<v Speaker 1>a man.</v>

00:51:58.480 --> 00:52:02.320
<v Speaker 1>That is going to be disastrous for your relationship.</v>

00:52:02.320 --> 00:52:05.600
<v Speaker 1>What What you want to do is be the one who has</v>

00:52:05.600 --> 00:52:10.080
<v Speaker 1>the answers who can reassure her and tell her there is a</v>

00:52:10.080 --> 00:52:15.840
<v Speaker 1>right way, there is a correct way to work through these things.</v>

00:52:15.840 --> 00:52:18.960
<v Speaker 1>That's what you want to do, because that's going to give her</v>

00:52:18.960 --> 00:52:22.400
<v Speaker 1>that security that she needs, and that is going to make her</v>

00:52:22.400 --> 00:52:24.320
<v Speaker 1>depend on you even more, which is a good thing.</v>

00:52:24.320 --> 00:52:25.440
<v Speaker 1>That's what she should do.</v>

00:52:25.440 --> 00:52:27.840
<v Speaker 1>That's what a wife is supposed to do with regard to her</v>

00:52:27.840 --> 00:52:30.160
<v Speaker 1>husband. So So</v>

00:52:31.440 --> 00:52:34.080
<v Speaker 1>the overall answer essentially is</v>

00:52:34.960 --> 00:52:39.040
<v Speaker 1>don't run headlong into this trying to bring a woman up to</v>

00:52:39.040 --> 00:52:42.800
<v Speaker 1>speed with everything you believe about politics and society and race and</v>

00:52:42.800 --> 00:52:46.560
<v Speaker 1>all that stuff, that's a recipe for disaster.</v>

00:52:46.560 --> 00:52:50.640
<v Speaker 1>It's not what you're supposed to have in a marriage.</v>

00:52:50.640 --> 00:52:53.760
<v Speaker 1>We have this tendency in the modern world to try and teet</v>

00:52:53.920 --> 00:52:58.320
<v Speaker 1>try and treat a wife as if she's just another male friend.</v>

00:52:58.320 --> 00:53:00.560
<v Speaker 1>Your wife should not be your male friend.</v>

00:53:00.560 --> 00:53:02.800
<v Speaker 1>Your male friends should be your male friends.</v>

00:53:02.800 --> 00:53:06.480
<v Speaker 1>Discuss politics and all of these things with them.</v>

00:53:06.480 --> 00:53:11.360
<v Speaker 1>Go out to the pub, have a beer, discuss politics there, go</v>

00:53:11.360 --> 00:53:15.280
<v Speaker 1>home, discuss something else with your wife.</v>

00:53:15.280 --> 00:53:20.240
<v Speaker 1>She's not your male friend with whom you discuss these issues, but</v>

00:53:20.320 --> 00:53:24.640
<v Speaker 1>when she starts to recognize these things, when she starts to have</v>

00:53:24.640 --> 00:53:29.280
<v Speaker 1>concerns and worries and questions, be there for her to be someone</v>

00:53:29.280 --> 00:53:32.480
<v Speaker 1>who can answer them in a way that helps make her feel</v>

00:53:32.480 --> 00:53:34.720
<v Speaker 1>secure. You don't have to lie to her, you don't have to</v>

00:53:34.720 --> 00:53:38.000
<v Speaker 1>tell her that everything's gonna be fine, the world is great.</v>

00:53:38.000 --> 00:53:42.640
<v Speaker 1>You can be honest about the state of the world without making</v>

00:53:42.640 --> 00:53:46.560
<v Speaker 1>her feel like everything has gone completely out of control and is</v>

00:53:46.560 --> 00:53:47.680
<v Speaker 1>on fire.</v>

00:53:47.680 --> 00:53:51.040
<v Speaker 1>Because again, the last thing you want to do as a man</v>

00:53:51.040 --> 00:53:54.240
<v Speaker 1>is make a woman feel like she is not secure.</v>

00:53:54.240 --> 00:53:58.480
<v Speaker 1>She has to now there's a different relationship there with regard to</v>

00:53:58.480 --> 00:54:01.040
<v Speaker 1>her feeling like she's in a little bit of danger, but that's</v>

00:54:01.040 --> 00:54:02.800
<v Speaker 1>a different issue.</v>

00:54:02.800 --> 00:54:06.960
<v Speaker 1>With regard to this stuff, she has to feel like she's secure.</v>

00:54:06.960 --> 00:54:08.480
<v Speaker 1>That's your job.</v>

00:54:08.480 --> 00:54:12.720
<v Speaker 1>So don't run headlong into the wood chipper basically.</v>

00:54:12.720 --> 00:54:14.720
<v Speaker 1>You're not going to gain anything.</v>

00:54:14.720 --> 00:54:18.400
<v Speaker 1>She's not going to gain anything, and your marriage is going to</v>

00:54:18.400 --> 00:54:22.960
<v Speaker 1>suffer. So can you bring her along on some of these things?</v>

00:54:22.960 --> 00:54:26.640
<v Speaker 1>Absolutely. Do you want to bring her along on all these things?</v>

00:54:26.640 --> 00:54:29.040
<v Speaker 1>Absolutely not.</v>

00:54:29.040 --> 00:54:33.040
<v Speaker 1>I think that's sort of the basic answer to that question there.</v>

00:54:34.880 --> 00:54:37.840
<v Speaker 1>I see a a question that I can answer just quickly in</v>

00:54:37.840 --> 00:54:40.800
<v Speaker 1>the the chat caught my eye.</v>

00:54:40.800 --> 00:54:43.600
<v Speaker 1>Do I believe that we are limited to one hundred and twenty</v>

00:54:43.840 --> 00:54:49.200
<v Speaker 1>years? No, I think that when God says the days of man</v>

00:54:49.200 --> 00:54:52.640
<v Speaker 1>shall be shall be, and there are a couple different places it</v>

00:54:52.640 --> 00:54:53.520
<v Speaker 1>says that.</v>

00:54:53.520 --> 00:54:58.480
<v Speaker 1>I think that he's basically giving an average for what we are</v>

00:54:58.480 --> 00:55:03.920
<v Speaker 1>descending down to from what the ancient patriarchs were back when men</v>

00:55:03.920 --> 00:55:10.480
<v Speaker 1>lived for centuries obviously originally Adam indefinite lifespan.</v>

00:55:10.480 --> 00:55:14.800
<v Speaker 1>But I think it's saying where things are going to level off.</v>

00:55:14.800 --> 00:55:16.480
<v Speaker 1>It can get worse.</v>

00:55:16.480 --> 00:55:22.960
<v Speaker 1>Look at the say Australian aborigines, if you are so genetically degenerate</v>

00:55:23.120 --> 00:55:28.240
<v Speaker 1>that you have so many problems, such a cumulative mutational load, that</v>

00:55:28.240 --> 00:55:29.120
<v Speaker 1>you basically can't</v>

00:55:30.160 --> 00:55:36.400
<v Speaker 1>even hope to get to 85 unless you're some weird outlier fluke,</v>

00:55:36.400 --> 00:55:39.280
<v Speaker 1>then obviously you've fallen well below that.</v>

00:55:39.280 --> 00:55:42.320
<v Speaker 1>But if you don't have those problems and you have the medical</v>

00:55:42.640 --> 00:55:46.320
<v Speaker 1>interventions and various things like that, yes, I believe we could live</v>

00:55:46.320 --> 00:55:47.600
<v Speaker 1>much longer.</v>

00:55:47.600 --> 00:55:50.800
<v Speaker 1>I do actually, in fact, think that if we</v>

00:55:52.080 --> 00:55:54.640
<v Speaker 1>I'm going to say we could, I'm not saying we should.</v>

00:55:55.280 --> 00:56:00.720
<v Speaker 1>I'll get to that, but if we went sort of wholesale in</v>

00:56:00.720 --> 00:56:04.880
<v Speaker 1>on the technology to extend life, yes, I think we could achieve</v>

00:56:04.880 --> 00:56:08.160
<v Speaker 1>something approximating in definite lifespan because</v>

00:56:09.920 --> 00:56:15.120
<v Speaker 1>In so far as we are aware at this point, there are</v>

00:56:15.120 --> 00:56:20.160
<v Speaker 1>a number of big hurdles with regard to human longevity.</v>

00:56:20.160 --> 00:56:27.120
<v Speaker 1>One is that the systems for clearing out basically detritus in the</v>

00:56:27.120 --> 00:56:31.120
<v Speaker 1>brain aren't very good because they're fallen.</v>

00:56:31.120 --> 00:56:34.000
<v Speaker 1>It's not because God designed them poorly, it's because they're fallen and</v>

00:56:34.000 --> 00:56:35.840
<v Speaker 1>corrupt in a fallen world.</v>

00:56:35.840 --> 00:56:39.040
<v Speaker 1>And so after a while, stuff starts to build up in the</v>

00:56:39.040 --> 00:56:42.160
<v Speaker 1>brain, causes all sorts of problems.</v>

00:56:42.160 --> 00:56:46.960
<v Speaker 1>Contributing to dementia, Alzheimer's, all sorts of the things that eventually wind</v>

00:56:46.960 --> 00:56:48.400
<v Speaker 1>up killing us.</v>

00:56:48.640 --> 00:56:52.800
<v Speaker 1>But But there's that issue and then the other major one would</v>

00:56:52.800 --> 00:56:57.040
<v Speaker 1>obviously be the DNA tail, right?</v>

00:56:57.040 --> 00:57:00.800
<v Speaker 1>Because every time our cells replicate, they lose a little bit of</v>

00:57:00.800 --> 00:57:01.360
<v Speaker 1>that tail.</v>

00:57:01.360 --> 00:57:06.560
<v Speaker 1>It's basically a protective buffer Well, we do actually know how to</v>

00:57:06.560 --> 00:57:08.560
<v Speaker 1>restore that buffer.</v>

00:57:08.560 --> 00:57:12.160
<v Speaker 1>And so in theory, if we could chain a few things together,</v>

00:57:12.160 --> 00:57:15.040
<v Speaker 1>a number of different treatments, and we have some ideas how to</v>

00:57:15.040 --> 00:57:17.200
<v Speaker 1>wash some of the stuff out of the brain too.</v>

00:57:17.200 --> 00:57:21.440
<v Speaker 1>If we could get to that point, then theoretically we wouldn't have</v>

00:57:21.440 --> 00:57:27.040
<v Speaker 1>a biological, which is noteworthy, expiration date.</v>

00:57:27.280 --> 00:57:33.760
<v Speaker 1>I don't think psychologically we can make it much past like 150-180.</v>

00:57:33.760 --> 00:57:38.640
<v Speaker 1>I think modern humanity would just kind of go insane after you've</v>

00:57:38.640 --> 00:57:40.800
<v Speaker 1>lived much longer than that.</v>

00:57:40.800 --> 00:57:46.320
<v Speaker 1>And perhaps it would be those of higher intelligence would go crazy</v>

00:57:46.320 --> 00:57:47.840
<v Speaker 1>sooner if you live that long.</v>

00:57:47.840 --> 00:57:48.720
<v Speaker 1>I don't know.</v>

00:57:48.720 --> 00:57:52.000
<v Speaker 1>I might lean that way a little bit, with regard to that</v>

00:57:52.000 --> 00:57:53.680
<v Speaker 1>being the case.</v>

00:57:53.680 --> 00:57:57.760
<v Speaker 1>So, yes, I think we could live longer.</v>

00:57:57.760 --> 00:58:01.360
<v Speaker 1>No, I don't think that we really can, because I think there</v>

00:58:01.360 --> 00:58:04.800
<v Speaker 1>are psychological limitations that we basically can't overcome.</v>

00:58:04.800 --> 00:58:08.240
<v Speaker 1>Unless you have that sort of person who's just happy to do</v>

00:58:08.240 --> 00:58:12.080
<v Speaker 1>the exact same thing day in and day out with no novelty,</v>

00:58:12.080 --> 00:58:14.720
<v Speaker 1>no change and no thought.</v>

00:58:14.720 --> 00:58:17.120
<v Speaker 1>That person maybe could live forever.</v>

00:58:17.120 --> 00:58:19.360
<v Speaker 1>But that's a different question.</v>

00:58:19.360 --> 00:58:21.600
<v Speaker 1>So So yes, the short answer is yeah, I do think that</v>

00:58:21.600 --> 00:58:24.240
<v Speaker 1>we could biologically live more than one hundred and twenty.</v>

00:58:35.680 --> 00:58:36.560
<v Speaker 1>Let's see.</v>

00:58:36.720 --> 00:58:42.800
<v Speaker 1>What is the next question here?</v>

00:58:42.880 --> 00:58:46.720
<v Speaker 1>I remember you speaking on how scripture says when you fast and</v>

00:58:46.720 --> 00:58:50.000
<v Speaker 1>not if in a stone choir episode.</v>

00:58:50.000 --> 00:58:54.720
<v Speaker 1>Could you consider going into fasting and when and how someone should</v>

00:58:54.720 --> 00:58:57.280
<v Speaker 1>go about it?</v>

00:58:58.080 --> 00:59:03.840
<v Speaker 1>Fasting is one of those practices that it has both a personal</v>

00:59:03.840 --> 00:59:08.400
<v Speaker 1>and a corporate dynamic or an element to it.</v>

00:59:08.400 --> 00:59:08.960
<v Speaker 1>And so</v>

00:59:09.840 --> 00:59:15.440
<v Speaker 1>personally, fasting is going to be a matter of your own personal</v>

00:59:15.440 --> 00:59:19.680
<v Speaker 1>praxis, your own personal practice of the Christian faith.</v>

00:59:19.680 --> 00:59:24.160
<v Speaker 1>So maybe you pick one day a week where you fast for</v>

00:59:24.960 --> 00:59:27.360
<v Speaker 1>all the daylight hours that day.</v>

00:59:27.360 --> 00:59:32.400
<v Speaker 1>Or you fast from evening the day before until evening the next</v>

00:59:32.400 --> 00:59:35.120
<v Speaker 1>day or the morning of the day after, whatever it happens to</v>

00:59:35.120 --> 00:59:39.040
<v Speaker 1>be. Or Or maybe it's every other week and you fast for</v>

00:59:39.040 --> 00:59:40.880
<v Speaker 1>a couple of days.</v>

00:59:40.880 --> 00:59:46.160
<v Speaker 1>The point with regard to fasting is that the time that you</v>

00:59:46.160 --> 00:59:50.240
<v Speaker 1>would have spent eating, and so if particularly historically this is more</v>

00:59:50.640 --> 00:59:55.600
<v Speaker 1>relevant because historically you spent more time on this because you had</v>

00:59:55.600 --> 00:59:59.200
<v Speaker 1>to prep everything from scratch after you went out in the garden</v>

00:59:59.200 --> 01:00:02.880
<v Speaker 1>and collected it, and you had to grind your own flour and</v>

01:00:02.880 --> 01:00:03.520
<v Speaker 1>all these things.</v>

01:00:03.520 --> 01:00:08.880
<v Speaker 1>So the amount of time spent on prep plus eating plus cleanup</v>

01:00:09.120 --> 01:00:11.040
<v Speaker 1>was pretty big historically.</v>

01:00:11.040 --> 01:00:13.600
<v Speaker 1>Unless you were a nobleman, of course, in which case you had</v>

01:00:13.600 --> 01:00:15.280
<v Speaker 1>servants do that for you.</v>

01:00:15.440 --> 01:00:17.760
<v Speaker 1>Which is effectively what we have today.</v>

01:00:17.760 --> 01:00:22.400
<v Speaker 1>Because you can go to the store and buy food that's pre-made.</v>

01:00:22.400 --> 01:00:26.160
<v Speaker 1>The point is that time that you would have spent doing these</v>

01:00:26.160 --> 01:00:29.520
<v Speaker 1>things, you dedicate to the things of God.</v>

01:00:29.520 --> 01:00:33.200
<v Speaker 1>That's the point of it being Christian fasting.</v>

01:00:33.200 --> 01:00:38.160
<v Speaker 1>Just abstaining from food isn't necessarily a Christian practice.</v>

01:00:38.160 --> 01:00:39.920
<v Speaker 1>Now it has health benefits.</v>

01:00:39.920 --> 01:00:44.880
<v Speaker 1>There are very real health benefits of fasting and the scientific literature</v>

01:00:44.880 --> 01:00:48.720
<v Speaker 1>has proved that conclusively at this point this point and they keep</v>

01:00:48.720 --> 01:00:50.160
<v Speaker 1>finding other things.</v>

01:00:50.160 --> 01:00:51.840
<v Speaker 1>So there is that element to it as well.</v>

01:00:51.840 --> 01:00:54.640
<v Speaker 1>And there's nothing wrong with doing something because it is good for</v>

01:00:55.120 --> 01:00:57.600
<v Speaker 1>the body, but also as a spiritual element.</v>

01:00:57.600 --> 01:01:00.960
<v Speaker 1>And that's certainly the case with fasting.</v>

01:01:00.960 --> 01:01:07.200
<v Speaker 1>So, when you fast is going to be a personal decision as</v>

01:01:07.200 --> 01:01:11.360
<v Speaker 1>part of your personal practice of the Christian faith.</v>

01:01:11.360 --> 01:01:13.440
<v Speaker 1>It is something that you should do.</v>

01:01:13.440 --> 01:01:16.640
<v Speaker 1>It is something that is part of the Christian religion.</v>

01:01:16.640 --> 01:01:19.680
<v Speaker 1>It is not something that is optional even.</v>

01:01:19.680 --> 01:01:23.520
<v Speaker 1>It is absolutely something that you should do.</v>

01:01:23.520 --> 01:01:26.800
<v Speaker 1>Now the corporate aspect, and I do think this is important.</v>

01:01:26.800 --> 01:01:30.080
<v Speaker 1>I think it's something that we've sort of lost along the way</v>

01:01:30.320 --> 01:01:37.200
<v Speaker 1>in our overreaction to correcting the abuses of Rome.</v>

01:01:37.200 --> 01:01:42.000
<v Speaker 1>I think that having national days of prayer and fasting is a</v>

01:01:42.000 --> 01:01:43.200
<v Speaker 1>good thing.</v>

01:01:43.200 --> 01:01:45.520
<v Speaker 1>I think we should return to having that.</v>

01:01:45.520 --> 01:01:50.160
<v Speaker 1>I think we should have periods in the calendar when we fast</v>

01:01:50.720 --> 01:01:52.240
<v Speaker 1>as a nation.</v>

01:01:52.240 --> 01:01:55.600
<v Speaker 1>I think that is something that is absolutely part of being a</v>

01:01:55.600 --> 01:01:56.960
<v Speaker 1>Christian people.</v>

01:01:56.960 --> 01:02:01.360
<v Speaker 1>Now Now, I don't think it's the sort of thing where you</v>

01:02:01.360 --> 01:02:04.960
<v Speaker 1>know you you eat fish on Friday or something like that.</v>

01:02:04.960 --> 01:02:10.400
<v Speaker 1>I think that's turning it into what is effectively works righteousness.</v>

01:02:10.400 --> 01:02:14.560
<v Speaker 1>That is making it into an observance of a ceremony for the</v>

01:02:14.560 --> 01:02:18.560
<v Speaker 1>sake of the ceremony, not for the sake of the thing that</v>

01:02:18.560 --> 01:02:21.680
<v Speaker 1>is the purpose as of observing the ceremony.</v>

01:02:21.680 --> 01:02:26.080
<v Speaker 1>So, like I said, you want to do this in order to</v>

01:02:26.080 --> 01:02:28.400
<v Speaker 1>focus on the things of God.</v>

01:02:28.400 --> 01:02:30.880
<v Speaker 1>You're not fasting just to fast.</v>

01:02:30.880 --> 01:02:32.640
<v Speaker 1>That's not the point.</v>

01:02:32.640 --> 01:02:36.560
<v Speaker 1>When you start having the sort of silly practices like, well, you</v>

01:02:36.560 --> 01:02:41.360
<v Speaker 1>can't have meat, but fish, fish isn't meat, or even some sillier</v>

01:02:41.360 --> 01:02:44.160
<v Speaker 1>options in some places down through history.</v>

01:02:44.160 --> 01:02:47.040
<v Speaker 1>I don't think that that's what we should be doing.</v>

01:02:47.040 --> 01:02:52.160
<v Speaker 1>But if we have, say, a three-day period in the calendar where</v>

01:02:53.040 --> 01:02:56.720
<v Speaker 1>except for of course pregnant women and those who are usually accepted</v>

01:02:56.720 --> 01:03:00.080
<v Speaker 1>from fasting because we recognize that there are some people who cannot</v>

01:03:00.080 --> 01:03:03.440
<v Speaker 1>fast. Diabetics can't really do the same things as others when it</v>

01:03:03.440 --> 01:03:05.760
<v Speaker 1>comes to fasting.</v>

01:03:05.760 --> 01:03:08.880
<v Speaker 1>They should look into some of this stuff though.</v>

01:03:08.880 --> 01:03:12.640
<v Speaker 1>Tangent. But we should have, you know, a three day period in</v>

01:03:12.640 --> 01:03:18.080
<v Speaker 1>the calendar where everyone fasts, the entire nation fasts, repents of our</v>

01:03:18.080 --> 01:03:21.680
<v Speaker 1>sins, and the sins of our fathers, because that is a Christian</v>

01:03:21.680 --> 01:03:27.120
<v Speaker 1>confession, focuses on the things of God, because God promises to hear</v>

01:03:27.120 --> 01:03:31.040
<v Speaker 1>when his people humble themselves before him and come to him in</v>

01:03:31.040 --> 01:03:35.360
<v Speaker 1>prayer. Fasting and prayer go together, and so absolutely it should be</v>

01:03:35.360 --> 01:03:39.040
<v Speaker 1>part of our national practice of the faith as well as our</v>

01:03:39.040 --> 01:03:40.720
<v Speaker 1>personal practice.</v>

01:03:40.720 --> 01:03:43.440
<v Speaker 1>But the personal aspect is going to be something that you have</v>

01:03:43.440 --> 01:03:45.280
<v Speaker 1>to decide.</v>

01:03:45.280 --> 01:03:49.280
<v Speaker 1>And there's nothing wrong with making it match your calendar and your</v>

01:03:49.280 --> 01:03:51.040
<v Speaker 1>family's calendar and things like that.</v>

01:03:51.040 --> 01:03:54.560
<v Speaker 1>Because certainly if you're married and you have children and things, you're</v>

01:03:54.560 --> 01:03:58.720
<v Speaker 1>going to have to work this around your family life.</v>

01:03:58.720 --> 01:04:09.200
<v Speaker 1>That's perfectly acceptable as a Christian.</v>

01:04:13.760 --> 01:04:15.200
<v Speaker 1>Well I can answer this one easily.</v>

01:04:15.200 --> 01:04:17.280
<v Speaker 1>Are you invested in the stock market?</v>

01:04:17.280 --> 01:04:21.360
<v Speaker 1>No. So that's pretty easy one to answer.</v>

01:04:21.360 --> 01:04:25.840
<v Speaker 1>Nice short answer for that one.</v>

01:04:25.840 --> 01:04:30.000
<v Speaker 1>I think the last question that I will do</v>

01:04:30.960 --> 01:04:34.320
<v Speaker 1>today, because I believe I'm right a little over A little over</v>

01:04:34.320 --> 01:04:36.400
<v Speaker 1>an hour, I think.</v>

01:04:36.400 --> 01:04:39.680
<v Speaker 1>Modulo that intro.</v>

01:04:39.680 --> 01:04:44.080
<v Speaker 1>What are your thoughts on Memento seventy?</v>

01:04:44.080 --> 01:04:46.720
<v Speaker 1>So I think what I will do is</v>

01:04:47.920 --> 01:04:54.320
<v Speaker 1>pull that up and we can look at it a little bit.</v>

01:04:54.320 --> 01:05:01.440
<v Speaker 1>So Memento seventy is actually quite related to the last question.</v>

01:05:01.440 --> 01:05:02.400
<v Speaker 1>It is It is a</v>

01:05:04.480 --> 01:05:09.040
<v Speaker 1>Christian men's group, I guess, as it were.</v>

01:05:09.040 --> 01:05:13.760
<v Speaker 1>I looked at it a little bit before I picked the question</v>

01:05:13.760 --> 01:05:15.360
<v Speaker 1>for this episode, but</v>

01:05:18.960 --> 01:05:22.800
<v Speaker 1>I have some serious misgivings about it.</v>

01:05:22.800 --> 01:05:27.920
<v Speaker 1>I don't necessarily have misgivings about the content because I didn't pay</v>

01:05:27.920 --> 01:05:32.880
<v Speaker 1>for it, so I don't have access to their various prayers or</v>

01:05:32.880 --> 01:05:36.480
<v Speaker 1>whatever it is they provide you with, devotional materials.</v>

01:05:36.480 --> 01:05:40.800
<v Speaker 1>I do find it weird that they have a mission statement</v>

01:05:42.080 --> 01:05:45.360
<v Speaker 1>and the word Lutheran never appears in it.</v>

01:05:45.360 --> 01:05:47.760
<v Speaker 1>Now I'm not saying that because I'm a Lutheran.</v>

01:05:47.760 --> 01:05:50.880
<v Speaker 1>I'm saying that because I look at the contributors and they're all</v>

01:05:51.280 --> 01:05:58.320
<v Speaker 1>Lutherans. I find it a little weird when men are something</v>

01:05:58.560 --> 01:06:01.360
<v Speaker 1>and sort of hide that in what they're doing.</v>

01:06:01.360 --> 01:06:05.120
<v Speaker 1>Now obviously they're clearly admitting to being Lutheran as it were</v>

01:06:06.320 --> 01:06:11.680
<v Speaker 1>in their bios here, but not having it in their other materials</v>

01:06:11.680 --> 01:06:18.240
<v Speaker 1>seems very odd to me, because if they are earnestly Lutheran, then</v>

01:06:18.240 --> 01:06:21.520
<v Speaker 1>certainly that is going to show up in their teaching.</v>

01:06:21.520 --> 01:06:25.760
<v Speaker 1>And I think they should be upfront about that.</v>

01:06:25.760 --> 01:06:26.400
<v Speaker 1>I also</v>

01:06:28.400 --> 01:06:32.240
<v Speaker 1>And I know some men are a little uncomfortable with this, but</v>

01:06:32.240 --> 01:06:35.120
<v Speaker 1>that's fine because they should be.</v>

01:06:35.120 --> 01:06:38.800
<v Speaker 1>I don't like that they're charging for it.</v>

01:06:38.800 --> 01:06:40.720
<v Speaker 1>I have no problem with</v>

01:06:41.680 --> 01:06:45.520
<v Speaker 1>these sorts of sites taking donations.</v>

01:06:45.520 --> 01:06:48.000
<v Speaker 1>There's nothing wrong with that.</v>

01:06:48.000 --> 01:06:53.760
<v Speaker 1>I do not like charging for Christian materials because I don't think</v>

01:06:53.760 --> 01:06:57.280
<v Speaker 1>they belong to the man, they belong to God, they belong to</v>

01:06:57.280 --> 01:06:58.560
<v Speaker 1>the church.</v>

01:06:58.560 --> 01:07:03.440
<v Speaker 1>If you are producing something that is consonant with the word of</v>

01:07:03.440 --> 01:07:08.240
<v Speaker 1>God, if you are producing something that is theologically and doctrinally sound,</v>

01:07:08.240 --> 01:07:11.360
<v Speaker 1>you should give that away for free.</v>

01:07:11.360 --> 01:07:15.600
<v Speaker 1>Because regardless of the ability of other men to pay for it,</v>

01:07:15.600 --> 01:07:18.480
<v Speaker 1>they should have access to it if it is sound.</v>

01:07:18.480 --> 01:07:21.040
<v Speaker 1>If it's not sound, you shouldn't have made it.</v>

01:07:21.040 --> 01:07:21.680
<v Speaker 1>And so</v>

01:07:22.800 --> 01:07:26.800
<v Speaker 1>I would just never charge for this sort of thing.</v>

01:07:26.800 --> 01:07:29.200
<v Speaker 1>I don't charge for any of the things that I do.</v>

01:07:29.200 --> 01:07:31.120
<v Speaker 1>I don't charge for this.</v>

01:07:31.120 --> 01:07:34.960
<v Speaker 1>I don't charge for the my my website.</v>

01:07:34.960 --> 01:07:36.400
<v Speaker 1>I don't charge for any of that stuff.</v>

01:07:36.400 --> 01:07:38.160
<v Speaker 1>Stone Choir is free.</v>

01:07:38.160 --> 01:07:40.960
<v Speaker 1>I know the p someone somewhere is gonna say, Ah, you have</v>

01:07:40.960 --> 01:07:43.040
<v Speaker 1>a ten dollar registration free on the forum.</v>

01:07:43.040 --> 01:07:46.320
<v Speaker 1>That's to cut down on spam because I can't possibly deal with</v>

01:07:46.320 --> 01:07:49.200
<v Speaker 1>the flood of spam any more than I have.</v>

01:07:49.200 --> 01:07:52.160
<v Speaker 1>And quite frankly, the majority of the questions that I've answered have</v>

01:07:52.160 --> 01:07:53.600
<v Speaker 1>not been submitted on the forum.</v>

01:07:53.600 --> 01:07:57.840
<v Speaker 1>They've been in the chat or on X or Telegram or various</v>

01:07:57.840 --> 01:07:58.640
<v Speaker 1>other places.</v>

01:07:58.640 --> 01:08:01.920
<v Speaker 1>And I've sort of collected them as I go.</v>

01:08:01.920 --> 01:08:06.720
<v Speaker 1>But I just don't think that you can charge for these things.</v>

01:08:06.720 --> 01:08:10.320
<v Speaker 1>I think that it is morally wrongful to do so, and I</v>

01:08:10.320 --> 01:08:14.560
<v Speaker 1>would go so far as to say that includes Christian books.</v>

01:08:14.880 --> 01:08:17.040
<v Speaker 1>They should be released for free.</v>

01:08:17.040 --> 01:08:20.240
<v Speaker 1>You can charge for the print version because there is a real</v>

01:08:20.240 --> 01:08:25.040
<v Speaker 1>cost attached to producing the thing, but the PDF should always be</v>

01:08:25.040 --> 01:08:28.080
<v Speaker 1>free. There should be a web version, something like that.</v>

01:08:28.080 --> 01:08:30.880
<v Speaker 1>That should be available.</v>

01:08:30.880 --> 01:08:35.040
<v Speaker 1>Because I just think that it's wrong not to have that be</v>

01:08:35.040 --> 01:08:38.880
<v Speaker 1>available. Because again, it doesn't belong to you.</v>

01:08:38.880 --> 01:08:42.000
<v Speaker 1>I don't know why it randomly decided to change the size of</v>

01:08:42.000 --> 01:08:43.680
<v Speaker 1>the browser there, but</v>

01:08:46.240 --> 01:08:48.080
<v Speaker 1>apparently it's just being uncooperative.</v>

01:08:48.080 --> 01:08:51.120
<v Speaker 1>Anyway, another issue that I had when I was looking at it,</v>

01:08:51.120 --> 01:08:54.960
<v Speaker 1>I noticed that when I pulled up how it works and I'm</v>

01:08:54.880 --> 01:08:59.120
<v Speaker 1>gonna try to get OBS to agree with me and stop changing</v>

01:08:59.120 --> 01:09:01.360
<v Speaker 1>the size.</v>

01:09:01.360 --> 01:09:08.800
<v Speaker 1>This is in theory something made by American Lutherans, American</v>

01:09:08.800 --> 01:09:16.000
<v Speaker 1>Christians, aimed at, I believe, American men, most likely between the ages</v>

01:09:16.000 --> 01:09:18.640
<v Speaker 1>of, say, twenty and sixty, right?</v>

01:09:18.640 --> 01:09:19.680
<v Speaker 1>Somewhere in there.</v>

01:09:19.680 --> 01:09:22.560
<v Speaker 1>One of the first issues they talk about is pornography, so you</v>

01:09:22.560 --> 01:09:24.560
<v Speaker 1>know, obviously younger men.</v>

01:09:24.560 --> 01:09:27.680
<v Speaker 1>OBS is just gonna keep changing it so I can't make my</v>

01:09:27.680 --> 01:09:30.080
<v Speaker 1>point because I want the picture there.</v>

01:09:30.080 --> 01:09:31.440
<v Speaker 1>They choose to use a black guy</v>

01:09:32.720 --> 01:09:35.120
<v Speaker 1>as their website image.</v>

01:09:35.120 --> 01:09:37.840
<v Speaker 1>I just find that fundamentally unserious.</v>

01:09:37.840 --> 01:09:41.440
<v Speaker 1>If you're going to target a particular group, show that group in</v>

01:09:41.440 --> 01:09:42.320
<v Speaker 1>your materials</v>

01:09:44.160 --> 01:09:47.600
<v Speaker 1>The same sort of thing when I went to buy a new</v>

01:09:47.600 --> 01:09:52.160
<v Speaker 1>sweater recently, and a bunch of the models for wool sweaters were</v>

01:09:52.160 --> 01:09:56.960
<v Speaker 1>blacks. I have never in my life seen a black man wearing</v>

01:09:56.960 --> 01:10:00.480
<v Speaker 1>the style of sweater I was trying to buy.</v>

01:10:00.480 --> 01:10:02.160
<v Speaker 1>It's just completely ridiculous.</v>

01:10:02.160 --> 01:10:06.240
<v Speaker 1>It shows not just a sort of fundamental unseriousness with regard to</v>

01:10:06.240 --> 01:10:08.160
<v Speaker 1>these men, but an evil.</v>

01:10:08.160 --> 01:10:09.840
<v Speaker 1>There's something wicked about it.</v>

01:10:09.840 --> 01:10:12.240
<v Speaker 1>There's something wrong about what they are doing.</v>

01:10:12.240 --> 01:10:15.600
<v Speaker 1>And so, no, I I would not recommend this group.</v>

01:10:15.600 --> 01:10:16.960
<v Speaker 1>I cannot recommend this group.</v>

01:10:16.960 --> 01:10:21.680
<v Speaker 1>And I say that while looking at some of these contributors, and</v>

01:10:21.680 --> 01:10:25.200
<v Speaker 1>some of these contributors aren't bad men.</v>

01:10:25.200 --> 01:10:27.200
<v Speaker 1>I'm not going to go through and pick out which ones I</v>

01:10:27.200 --> 01:10:28.240
<v Speaker 1>like and which ones I don't.</v>

01:10:28.240 --> 01:10:31.920
<v Speaker 1>I'm not going to do that here, but I am going to</v>

01:10:31.920 --> 01:10:37.360
<v Speaker 1>say that given the current state of the LCMS, particularly particularly the</v>

01:10:37.360 --> 01:10:42.320
<v Speaker 1>Pricidium so called which is the president vice presidents I am not</v>

01:10:42.480 --> 01:10:48.720
<v Speaker 1>going to recommend anything that has an LCMS president or vice president</v>

01:10:48.720 --> 01:10:50.160
<v Speaker 1>involved in the project.</v>

01:10:50.800 --> 01:10:54.320
<v Speaker 1>Because thus far I have not seen a single one of them</v>

01:10:54.640 --> 01:11:00.720
<v Speaker 1>stand up and do anything about the extreme wickedness that is infesting</v>

01:11:00.880 --> 01:11:04.000
<v Speaker 1>the Lutheran Church in America.</v>

01:11:04.000 --> 01:11:06.560
<v Speaker 1>And they are in a position of authority to do that.</v>

01:11:06.560 --> 01:11:09.920
<v Speaker 1>They are in the position of essentially bishops.</v>

01:11:09.920 --> 01:11:13.280
<v Speaker 1>There's some weirdness because you have president, vice president, and then you</v>

01:11:13.360 --> 01:11:17.600
<v Speaker 1>have district presidents, but at any rate, they have ecclesiastical authority, they're</v>

01:11:17.600 --> 01:11:22.480
<v Speaker 1>going to receive the stricter judgment, they haven't done anything to avert</v>

01:11:22.480 --> 01:11:26.800
<v Speaker 1>the problems, despite being warned repeatedly by many men.</v>

01:11:26.800 --> 01:11:30.880
<v Speaker 1>They continue to cover up problems, they continue to permit them to</v>

01:11:30.880 --> 01:11:34.640
<v Speaker 1>occur, and in some cases they are overseeing them and even causing</v>

01:11:34.640 --> 01:11:37.680
<v Speaker 1>them. And so, no, I can't recommend anything that has</v>

01:11:38.640 --> 01:11:43.440
<v Speaker 1>any LCMS vice president involved in it, because I don't trust a</v>

01:11:43.440 --> 01:11:46.400
<v Speaker 1>single one of them.</v>

01:11:46.400 --> 01:11:49.440
<v Speaker 1>Does that mean that the materials they will produce will all be</v>

01:11:49.440 --> 01:11:51.440
<v Speaker 1>bad? No, I don't think so.</v>

01:11:51.440 --> 01:11:54.080
<v Speaker 1>Some of them will undoubtedly be good.</v>

01:11:54.080 --> 01:11:54.400
<v Speaker 1>But</v>

01:11:55.600 --> 01:12:00.080
<v Speaker 1>again, they should be available for free if they're sound.</v>

01:12:00.080 --> 01:12:04.480
<v Speaker 1>Because Christian men should not charge for things that belong to God.</v>

01:12:04.480 --> 01:12:08.160
<v Speaker 1>And sound theology, sound doctrine belongs to God.</v>

01:12:10.080 --> 01:12:13.520
<v Speaker 1>This is one of those areas where</v>

01:12:14.640 --> 01:12:18.480
<v Speaker 1>just because you invested a bunch of time and effort doesn't mean</v>

01:12:18.480 --> 01:12:20.080
<v Speaker 1>you get a charge for it.</v>

01:12:20.080 --> 01:12:22.160
<v Speaker 1>You have no right to do that.</v>

01:12:22.160 --> 01:12:24.960
<v Speaker 1>And if you want to charge for</v>

01:12:26.080 --> 01:12:30.560
<v Speaker 1>your written works, whatever it happens to be, great, go write fiction.</v>

01:12:30.560 --> 01:12:32.800
<v Speaker 1>Go write nonfiction.</v>

01:12:32.800 --> 01:12:34.240
<v Speaker 1>Not theology.</v>

01:12:34.560 --> 01:12:38.640
<v Speaker 1>not Christian materials, not devotional materials, because those belong to God and</v>

01:12:38.640 --> 01:12:39.840
<v Speaker 1>to the church.</v>

01:12:39.840 --> 01:12:43.760
<v Speaker 1>And so you do not get to charge for them.</v>

01:12:43.760 --> 01:12:46.800
<v Speaker 1>So if they want to do this and they do a good</v>

01:12:46.800 --> 01:12:48.240
<v Speaker 1>job, great</v>

01:12:49.120 --> 01:12:52.080
<v Speaker 1>But they need to drop that introductory fee down to zero dollars</v>

01:12:52.080 --> 01:12:52.800
<v Speaker 1>a month.</v>

01:12:52.800 --> 01:12:56.640
<v Speaker 1>If men want to donate, fine, so be it.</v>

01:12:56.640 --> 01:12:58.000
<v Speaker 1>And you should.</v>

01:12:58.000 --> 01:13:04.640
<v Speaker 1>If you use the materials from some Christian teacher, you should donate</v>

01:13:04.640 --> 01:13:09.360
<v Speaker 1>something to that teacher because scripture is very clear, the workman is</v>

01:13:09.360 --> 01:13:13.920
<v Speaker 1>worth his wages, and those who teach the gospel, who preach the</v>

01:13:13.920 --> 01:13:16.800
<v Speaker 1>gospel, should make their living by the gospel.</v>

01:13:16.800 --> 01:13:20.960
<v Speaker 1>That doesn't mean that every man who teaches and preaches needs to</v>

01:13:20.960 --> 01:13:24.400
<v Speaker 1>be supported by the church at large, as it were.</v>

01:13:24.400 --> 01:13:27.040
<v Speaker 1>Because of course there are plenty of men who don't do it</v>

01:13:27.040 --> 01:13:30.480
<v Speaker 1>full time or whatever it happens to be.</v>

01:13:30.480 --> 01:13:34.880
<v Speaker 1>There's some reason they shouldn't necessarily be supported fully by the church.</v>

01:13:34.880 --> 01:13:38.480
<v Speaker 1>But at the same time, we've sort of lost this</v>

01:13:39.440 --> 01:13:43.920
<v Speaker 1>general societal sense of supporting things that need to be supported.</v>

01:13:44.960 --> 01:13:48.800
<v Speaker 1>Historically, many of these things would have been supported by the nobility,</v>

01:13:48.800 --> 01:13:53.200
<v Speaker 1>who would have been able to retain various individuals, including artists and</v>

01:13:53.200 --> 01:13:54.720
<v Speaker 1>things like that.</v>

01:13:54.720 --> 01:13:57.840
<v Speaker 1>It's the reason we have the great stained glass in the cathedrals</v>

01:13:57.840 --> 01:13:58.800
<v Speaker 1>in Europe.</v>

01:13:58.800 --> 01:14:01.920
<v Speaker 1>Those were not crowdfunded as it were, which is sort of how</v>

01:14:01.920 --> 01:14:03.280
<v Speaker 1>things work today.</v>

01:14:03.280 --> 01:14:08.240
<v Speaker 1>Those were paid for by kings and electors and great nobles.</v>

01:14:08.240 --> 01:14:11.600
<v Speaker 1>But that's not what we have today because things are not rightly</v>

01:14:11.600 --> 01:14:16.400
<v Speaker 1>ordered, and so we have to make do with what we have.</v>

01:14:16.400 --> 01:14:22.400
<v Speaker 1>And part of that is developing a culture, redeveloping a culture, of</v>

01:14:22.640 --> 01:14:26.720
<v Speaker 1>paying for things when we find them useful, even if there isn't</v>

01:14:26.640 --> 01:14:28.400
<v Speaker 1>a paywall.</v>

01:14:28.400 --> 01:14:32.080
<v Speaker 1>Just because you didn't have to pay to access it doesn't mean</v>

01:14:32.080 --> 01:14:35.680
<v Speaker 1>that you shouldn't pay for having had access to it.</v>

01:14:35.680 --> 01:14:39.600
<v Speaker 1>I can think of a particular concrete example.</v>

01:14:39.600 --> 01:14:44.240
<v Speaker 1>There is fairly close by to where I live here in East</v>

01:14:44.240 --> 01:14:49.600
<v Speaker 1>Tennessee, a particular driving loop out in the national park.</v>

01:14:49.600 --> 01:14:53.600
<v Speaker 1>It is called Cades Cove, and it's beautiful if you ever happen</v>

01:14:53.680 --> 01:14:57.200
<v Speaker 1>to be in the area, and it is not the height of</v>

01:14:57.200 --> 01:14:59.760
<v Speaker 1>tourist season you should do the drive.</v>

01:14:59.760 --> 01:15:02.640
<v Speaker 1>If it's the height of tourist season, block out six hours of</v>

01:15:02.640 --> 01:15:05.520
<v Speaker 1>your day you might literally be stuck in traffic that long.</v>

01:15:05.520 --> 01:15:08.960
<v Speaker 1>Not the point I'm making, but just a warning.</v>

01:15:08.960 --> 01:15:12.800
<v Speaker 1>At the entrance and the exit, there is a little box where</v>

01:15:12.800 --> 01:15:15.520
<v Speaker 1>you can give a little bit of money.</v>

01:15:15.520 --> 01:15:17.920
<v Speaker 1>And the reason it's a little box where you can give a</v>

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<v Speaker 1>little bit of money is because there's absolutely no signal there you</v>

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<v Speaker 1>will not be able to pay with a credit card or whatever</v>

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<v Speaker 1>it happens to be.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>There's not going to be Venmo at this point.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>But for those who are visiting the national park, this one doesn't</v>

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<v Speaker 1>have an entrance fee.</v>

01:15:35.040 --> 01:15:38.480
<v Speaker 1>There are no fees for anything except for you're supposed to pay</v>

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<v Speaker 1>for parking, but it's very loosely enforced.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>And so if you drive through this and you enjoy this beautiful</v>

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<v Speaker 1>scenery and and all of the work that has gone into that</v>

01:15:48.560 --> 01:15:53.200
<v Speaker 1>because there's a lot of time and effort and expense that goes</v>

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<v Speaker 1>into maintaining the national parks.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>And so if you enjoyed that, I do think that you have</v>

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<v Speaker 1>a moral obligation to put something in that box.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe you can only put five dollars, so be it.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>There's nothing wrong with putting what you were able to put.</v>

01:16:07.920 --> 01:16:10.720
<v Speaker 1>You can think of the two pennies with the widow in the</v>

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<v Speaker 1>temple box.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not saying give everything on which you have to live, of</v>

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<v Speaker 1>course. But</v>

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<v Speaker 1>we need to support these things because if we don't support them,</v>

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<v Speaker 1>what happens to them?</v>

01:16:23.920 --> 01:16:25.040
<v Speaker 1>They get destroyed.</v>

01:16:25.040 --> 01:16:27.280
<v Speaker 1>It's the tragedy of the commons or the tragedy of the anti</v>

01:16:27.440 --> 01:16:33.280
<v Speaker 1>commons, depending on the particular workings, in this case obviously the commons.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>But</v>

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<v Speaker 1>if you don't support these things, they don't keep going.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>They don't just fall out of the sky.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Because with regard to say very useful resources.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not going to give a particular example because I'm not going</v>

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<v Speaker 1>to necessarily endorse anything right now, but if there are good Christian</v>

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<v Speaker 1>materials being produced, we need to support those Christian authors.</v>

01:16:58.640 --> 01:17:00.880
<v Speaker 1>I think they should give away their work for free.</v>

01:17:00.880 --> 01:17:02.880
<v Speaker 1>I think the PDF should be available.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Again, you can charge for the physical copy because there's a real</v>

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<v Speaker 1>cost attached to producing that thing.</v>

01:17:09.280 --> 01:17:12.000
<v Speaker 1>But you should give away the electronic copy.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>But then men who use those materials who profit from them should</v>

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<v Speaker 1>support the men who created them because that enables those men to</v>

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<v Speaker 1>continue making those materials and it also fulfills the obligation that we</v>

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<v Speaker 1>have as Christians to support our Christian brothers, particularly those who are</v>

01:17:29.360 --> 01:17:32.960
<v Speaker 1>teaching and preaching because scripture is very clear.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>They are support they are supposed to be supported by other Christians.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Now, again, if they're doing it part time, then yes they should</v>

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<v Speaker 1>work as well.</v>

01:17:41.120 --> 01:17:42.880
<v Speaker 1>They should do other things as well.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>But we do have that moral obligation.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>And it's something that has simply fallen away in our society for</v>

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<v Speaker 1>a number of reasons.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Largely because of the just complete chaos we have today with so-called</v>

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<v Speaker 1>multiculturalism and all those other problems because we don't have the societal</v>

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<v Speaker 1>cohesion that we once had.</v>

01:18:02.240 --> 01:18:06.000
<v Speaker 1>But we can't allow that to destroy our own groups.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Within our own in groups, we need to support people.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Because that is vitally important.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Because if we don't, we will lose access to the wealth of</v>

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<v Speaker 1>materials that we have today.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>And so I think that sort of both answers the question and</v>

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<v Speaker 1>goes off on a bit of a tangent, but one that I</v>

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<v Speaker 1>think that is vitally important to mention.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>And you know, it is the the giving season as it were,</v>

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<v Speaker 1>which I don't think there's anything wrong with the Christmas season being</v>

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<v Speaker 1>a season of giving.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Gifts should not be the focus.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Christ is the focus.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>We're in the si season of Advent.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>It's a penitent season, penitential season.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>But there's nothing wrong with having that focus on being charitable because</v>

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<v Speaker 1>charitable charity, being charitable, is indeed a Christian virtue and a very</v>

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<v Speaker 1>important one.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Particularly care for the poor and less fortunate, which we Which we</v>

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<v Speaker 1>should certainly remember this time of year.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>And I guess that's a good way to close out this particular</v>

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<v Speaker 1>episode, particularly because there will be an episode next week, but it</v>

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<v Speaker 1>will not be Thursday because Thursday is Christmas</v>

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<v Speaker 1>and you should all be with your families.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>I'll be spending time with my family as well.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>And you should be doing that instead of asking me questions and</v>

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<v Speaker 1>listening to me answer them.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>I will be back on Friday, so I will the day after</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Christmas instead of Christmas.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>So will not be much delayed, but it will be slightly delayed.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>So thank you for those of you who submitted questions and for</v>

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<v Speaker 1>those whose questions I did not answer, I have written them down,</v>

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<v Speaker 1>I have a list of them.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>I will get to them as I can in the coming weeks,</v>

01:19:49.760 --> 01:19:54.080
<v Speaker 1>in the coming months, perhaps, because the list keeps growing rather rapidly.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>But again, thank you for your time.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you for submitting the questions, and I hope you all have</v>

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<v Speaker 1>a wonderful evening, a great rest of Advent, not much of it</v>

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<v Speaker 1>left, but the balance of Advent, and Merry Christmas to all of</v>

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<v Speaker 1>you. God bless.</v>