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<v Speaker 1>would seem that some controversy has arisen with regard to the mode</v>

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<v Speaker 1>of Christ's presence in the supper.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Now those who are engaging in this controversy, and in this case</v>

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<v Speaker 1>I mean stoking it, starting the controversy where there is none, are</v>

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<v Speaker 1>doing so in bad faith.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>On top of doing it in bad faith, they are doing it</v>

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<v Speaker 1>foolishly twice over, once because it is foolish to engage in such</v>

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<v Speaker 1>a controversy in the way they are, and twice because they do</v>

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<v Speaker 1>not understand the terms they are employing, because they do not have</v>

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<v Speaker 1>access to the original language of the Book of Concord to see</v>

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<v Speaker 1>what those terms actually are, or the original language of the philosophical</v>

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<v Speaker 1>and theological terms being employed.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>No Now of course you do not have to know the languages</v>

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<v Speaker 1>to employ the terms, but it would behoove you to actually know</v>

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<v Speaker 1>what the terms mean, which is very clearly not the case here.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>At any rate, the quote that comes up is</v>

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<v Speaker 1>not actually in Article 7, but in Article 8 of the Epitome</v>

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<v Speaker 1>of the Formula of Concord.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>It is paragraph 17.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>So here it is it is the German actually I will just</v>

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<v Speaker 1>read the entire paragraph.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>The Her Erf Vermag und ihm ganz leicht ist, Zeinen Wahtign Laib,</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Unblut im Heiligen Abendmahl gegenwärtig mitzuteilen, nicht nach der Art oder Eigenschaft</v>

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<v Speaker 1>der menschlichen Natur, sondern nach Art und Eigenschaft göttlicher Rechte, sagt Dr.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Luther aus unserem christlichen Kinderglauben, welche Gegenwart nicht Irdisch,</v>

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<v Speaker 1>noc gepernatanisch, gleichwohl wahrhaftig und wesentlich ist, wie die Wort seines</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Testaments lauten, das ist, ist, ist mein Leib, und so weiter.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Now the part of that</v>

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<v Speaker 1>is relevant for</v>

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<v Speaker 1>this issue here is the bit that says Nichtish.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Iidish is the term that is being mistranslated as physical.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Idish Alfdeutsch does not mean physical, it means earthly, mundane, terrestrial.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Now, that is a paletic against the Reformed.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>That is what's actually happening in this paragraph.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>It is a polemic against the polemic the reformed often leverage against</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Lutherans, which is their accusation that we are cannibals, of course.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Now</v>

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<v Speaker 1>that term Edish, as I said, does not mean physical.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>If we wanted physical, that would be Kerpelish, or Leiplish since you've</v>

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<v Speaker 1>got the word Lip there in the quote from Luther.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>The other term that comes up is the Latin term localiter.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>That is one of the terms over which we fought with the</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Reformed and still do to this day, although often the fights now</v>

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<v Speaker 1>are not in Latin.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Localiter also does not mean physical.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>It means local or locally.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>When we say that we do not hold to a localiter understanding</v>

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<v Speaker 1>of Christ's presence in the supper, what we are saying is that</v>

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<v Speaker 1>we reject the accusation of the reformed that we are cannibals.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Because their accusation is blasphemous.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>They are calling Christ a liar, they are insulting the sacrament, and</v>

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<v Speaker 1>it should terrify them to speak those words, to even think those</v>

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<v Speaker 1>words. Now, what the actual Lutheran position is is this Christ</v>

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<v Speaker 1>is physically, substantially, sacramentally present in with and under the</v>

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<v Speaker 1>bread and the wine in the supper.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>And he is so because he promises to be so.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>That is the Lutheran position.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>To say that Lutherans do not hold that Christ is physically present</v>

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<v Speaker 1>is a lie.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>At the absolute best, it is a reckless misunderstanding</v>

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<v Speaker 1>of the meaning of the terms being used in the Book of</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Concord, in our dogmaticians, in our theologians.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>It is to deliberately, quite frankly, because there is a point at</v>

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<v Speaker 1>which recklessness, negligence rises to such a level that it is in</v>

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<v Speaker 1>fact intentional, it is in fact deliberate.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>And that is the case here because it is trivial to look</v>

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<v Speaker 1>up what the word Idish means, or what the word localiter means,</v>

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<v Speaker 1>just drop them into any of the various places online where you</v>

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<v Speaker 1>can translate from one language to another, and it will spit out</v>

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<v Speaker 1>the accurate meaning of these terms for you.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>And that has clearly not been done by certain individuals who are</v>

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<v Speaker 1>engaging in this controversy.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>So again, this is the Lutheran position.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Christ is physically, substantially, sacramentally present in, with, and</v>

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<v Speaker 1>under the bread and the wine, in the supper, as he promises.</v>