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<v Speaker 1>It is the 13th of March 2026.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>I am Cory J.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Mahler, and this is at any cost.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>This is episode 20, a QA episode, and I really do not</v>

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<v Speaker 1>have any housekeeping, just one little point before I get started on</v>

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<v Speaker 1>the questions here tonight.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>I'm also copying some questions over from the chat so that I</v>

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<v Speaker 1>can get them.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>If not tonight, at least next time, I don't know that I'll</v>

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<v Speaker 1>get that at least all of them tonight.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>I have a number of questions prepared and ready to go.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Insofar as the housekeeping goes, the one point is I know that</v>

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<v Speaker 1>I have been asked a number of times about</v>

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<v Speaker 1>the issue of beauty and the moral salience of beauty, particularly because</v>

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<v Speaker 1>of that one post on X that blew up and got twenty</v>

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<v Speaker 1>million views or something.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>At any rate, I wound up writing an article on that.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>I'm going to transcribe that hopefully tomorrow and then go ahead and</v>

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<v Speaker 1>publish that.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>That'll be my</v>

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<v Speaker 1>core answer to the issue of the moral salience of beauty, how</v>

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<v Speaker 1>that ties into these matters.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>So that will be an answer for those of you who've been</v>

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<v Speaker 1>asking about that.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>I'll probably also record something about it in the future, but the</v>

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<v Speaker 1>article will be the core of my answer to that.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>So getting into the questions here pull up the first one.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>In today's political climate, it is evident that liberalism and race realism</v>

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<v Speaker 1>are incompatible.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>But this was not always the case.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>When we think of a nation like Australia and their federation in</v>

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<v Speaker 1>1901, one of the first policies passed was the White Australia policy.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>But the men of that time and the following prime ministers who</v>

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<v Speaker 1>endorse this policy wouldn't self describe as fascists or national socialists.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>The men of this time were quite liberal around trade, markets, civil</v>

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<v Speaker 1>liberties, democracy, and other such things.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Was the liberalism of that time something different from the incarnation today,</v>

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<v Speaker 1>or is it a category error to say that these men were</v>

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<v Speaker 1>liberal? Or is it the case that liberalism was intended for a</v>

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<v Speaker 1>white homogeneous society and when these parameters are not met, the system</v>

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<v Speaker 1>collapses in on itself.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Additionally, is liberalism a political philosophy worth hanging on to or trying</v>

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<v Speaker 1>to reinvent or revitalize still just copying over a couple</v>

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<v Speaker 1>questions here from the chat to make sure that I get those</v>

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<v Speaker 1>for next time.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>But insofar as liberalism is concerned, I think the fundamental problem is</v>

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<v Speaker 1>that it rests on the assumption of things that it destroys, in</v>

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<v Speaker 1>the fullness of time destroys.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>And this is similar to</v>

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<v Speaker 1>what we see with capitalism in the economic sphere, which capitalism and</v>

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<v Speaker 1>liberalism kind of go hand in hand.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>You have one is you even mentioned some of the economic aspects</v>

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<v Speaker 1>of liberalism.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Liberalism is sort of the ideology or the philosophy of capitalism, and</v>

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<v Speaker 1>capitalism is itself also a bit of an ideology or philosophy, but</v>

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<v Speaker 1>more the economics of the philosophy.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Obviously they're related, you can't really extract the one from the other,</v>

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<v Speaker 1>but</v>

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<v Speaker 1>the issue with them is that they rely on all of this</v>

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<v Speaker 1>groundwork, all of these things that have been built up over a</v>

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<v Speaker 1>course of at least centuries in Christendom, under a system that was</v>

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<v Speaker 1>very much not capitalist or liberal, and then relying on those things,</v>

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<v Speaker 1>they basically parasitize them and destroy them and then eventually the system</v>

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<v Speaker 1>collapses because it can't sustain itself.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>It doesn't actually create the sort of conditions it needs to exist.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>It exploits the conditions that existed prior to it due to other</v>

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<v Speaker 1>systems that preceded it.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>So the short answer is no.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>I don't believe that trying to revive liberalism or bring back classical</v>

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<v Speaker 1>liberalism or whatever it happens to be, is a good idea.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>There is a particularly noxious atheist on X who happens to be</v>

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<v Speaker 1>not exactly a neighbor, but he lives nearby close enough that he's</v>

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<v Speaker 1>sort of a neighbor for Neighbor for me.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Forty minutes away, thankfully, decent distance, but that's his whole thing.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>That's his whole shtick, is he's a classical liberal and wants to</v>

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<v Speaker 1>bring back those policies.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>And you can see exactly where those sort of men end up</v>

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<v Speaker 1>where that leads.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>The sort of men who are pushing for classical liberalism are the</v>

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<v Speaker 1>ones who generally lead a dissolute life and want to encourage others</v>

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<v Speaker 1>to do the same.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>So regardless of what it may have meant for those men, and</v>

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<v Speaker 1>for those men at the time, it did not mean what it</v>

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<v Speaker 1>means today.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>There's some overlap, of course, in so far as the economics is</v>

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<v Speaker 1>concerned, tons of overlap there.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>But insofar as the social policy and the morality and things like</v>

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<v Speaker 1>that, insofar as those are concerned, significantly less overlap.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>But like I said at the outset, I think the problem is</v>

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<v Speaker 1>that the system itself naturally leads to those consequences.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>I think that you end up there as just a natural outcome</v>

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<v Speaker 1>of pursuing liberalism.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Because what liberalism ultimately does is it tears down all of those</v>

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<v Speaker 1>boundaries. It tears down Chesterton's fence, basically.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>It tears down everything that not only made it possible for that</v>

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<v Speaker 1>system to sit atop what it had not constructed, but also that</v>

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<v Speaker 1>makes it possible for the sort of society that can exercise that</v>

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<v Speaker 1>in a reasonable fashion.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>It makes it impossible for that to exist for any length of</v>

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<v Speaker 1>time. And in fact, it is the cause, it is the solvent</v>

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<v Speaker 1>that dissolves that society.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>I can't think of a single instance in which you can point</v>

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<v Speaker 1>to liberalizing things in our society and the outcome has been good.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think that liberalizing the interactions between men and women has</v>

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<v Speaker 1>led to anything good.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think liberalizing the fashion for women has led to anything</v>

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<v Speaker 1>good. I don't think that liberalizing behavior in public spaces has led</v>

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<v Speaker 1>to anything good.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>And everyone in this chat could go on and do that for</v>

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<v Speaker 1>dozens, if not hundreds of things.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>So</v>

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<v Speaker 1>those men were mistaken, I believe, in what they were pursuing.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think most of them were doing it for evil or</v>

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<v Speaker 1>nefarious purposes.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>I think they were simply mistaken, but</v>

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<v Speaker 1>we have the advantage of hindsight.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>We should not repeat their errors.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>We know that it was deeply unwise, that it was something they</v>

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<v Speaker 1>shouldn't have done.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>We shouldn't give it another go.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>That's sort of like saying that wasn't real communism, right?</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Hear that all the time from leftists.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>And you hear people today trying to say, well, it's not real</v>

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<v Speaker 1>capitalism. No, what we have is real capitalism.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>It's just the natural evolution of capitalism.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>It's late stage capitalism.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>It's late stage liberalism.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>So, no, I don't think that we should try to pursue that.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>And I think that anyone who does fundamentally does not understand</v>

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<v Speaker 1>The things that are facing us and what needs to be done</v>

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<v Speaker 1>to address those problems.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Going back to you know, late 1900s, first half of the 19,</v>

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<v Speaker 1>or late 1800s, first half of the 1900s liberalism, that's not going</v>

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<v Speaker 1>to solve our problems.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>In fact, given how bad things are now, it is just going</v>

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<v Speaker 1>to exacerbate them significantly.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>And of course, there's also a great number of malefactors who are</v>

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<v Speaker 1>pushing for it.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>I mentioned one.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>The next question, question two, is a related question</v>

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<v Speaker 1>as soon as it comes up here.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>The tab is taking a second to load.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>At any rate, I remember the question, so I will just go</v>

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<v Speaker 1>over it instead of specifically reading it.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>The question is about on the Jews and their lies and which</v>

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<v Speaker 1>one, of course, now it loads</v>

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<v Speaker 1>and which one you should purchase basically which one is the the</v>

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<v Speaker 1>best copy of it.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>I'll read the question now that it's actually loaded.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>I was hoping that you could speak about Luther's on the Jews</v>

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<v Speaker 1>and their lies unrelated to recent events.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>I started reading this from Luther's Works Volume forty seven.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>In this case it is Luther's Works the American Edition.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>That is jointly produced by the LCMS, which is Concordia Publishing House,</v>

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<v Speaker 1>and unfortunately ELCA, which is Fortress Press.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Historically, wasn't as bad of a collaboration.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Now Elkha's gone so far off the rails.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>It's unfortunate that they're working with them, but thus far they haven't</v>

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<v Speaker 1>done anything destructive to the American Edition, so I guess pray that</v>

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<v Speaker 1>continues. I was speaking with someone about this and he said that</v>

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<v Speaker 1>he had read it also, but after speaking further I found out</v>

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<v Speaker 1>that we read different versions.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Unfortunately those exist.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>His version was only about forty pages, whereas the one in in</v>

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<v Speaker 1>the A.E.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>is about 170.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>I have heard that this is some disag I've heard there is</v>

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<v Speaker 1>some disagreement on the text whether it's from Luther, accusations ranging from</v>

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<v Speaker 1>that Luther didn't really write this document to Luther attacking the problem</v>

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<v Speaker 1>The prophets, Jeremiah in particular.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>I'm about three-quarters of the way through it myself, and I have</v>

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<v Speaker 1>not found anything that would indicate that this did not come from</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Luther. I agree on that point.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>I could see Luther being taken out of context given his liberal</v>

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<v Speaker 1>use of sarcasm, particularly Germanic sarcasm, which escapes many when they are</v>

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<v Speaker 1>reading. Personally I have found the text underwhelming given the reputation it</v>

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<v Speaker 1>has</v>

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<v Speaker 1>I think that's fair.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Many think that because of the title on the Jews and their</v>

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<v Speaker 1>lies, it's just going to be some full-blown polemic, just decrying</v>

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<v Speaker 1>the evils of the Jews and basically saying that, you know, we</v>

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<v Speaker 1>should destroy them, etc.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>If you want that, read his letters to his wife and his</v>

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<v Speaker 1>final sermon.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>But insofar as on the Jews and their lives is concerned, it's</v>

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<v Speaker 1>primarily a theological treatise.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>It is against the Jews.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>It is polemic.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>He does make frequent use of sarcasm in a particularly German way,</v>

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<v Speaker 1>but it's really not sensationalist like most people expect it to be.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>The 40 page versions and the ones in that sort of vein</v>

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<v Speaker 1>usually run about that length are basically sort of pamphlet versions of</v>

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<v Speaker 1>it reduced down down to often just the polemical bits removing the</v>

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<v Speaker 1>theology. And those were popular decades ago.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>They're not very good.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>I don't bother with those why.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>The actual ones not that long.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>The full length of it, the Weimar edition is about sixty five</v>

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<v Speaker 1>thousand words.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>And that's basically the equivalent in the AE.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>So if you are going to read it, the American Edition is</v>

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<v Speaker 1>a good option.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>It is unfortunately not available for free.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>There is, insofar as I'm aware, no widely available PDF of it,</v>

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<v Speaker 1>no one has yet made that available.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>So you're going to have to pay the combination there, CPH, Fortress</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Press, I don't know how they divide it up, but however that</v>

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<v Speaker 1>works, fifty to sixty bucks.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>If you know someone who has a subscription to Luther's works from,</v>

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<v Speaker 1>for instance, CPH, that person, he can order volumes at a discount.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>So if you have a friend, a passage.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Pastor, someone who has that, your pastor might if you're Lutheran.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Ask him to order you a copy, he can get it a</v>

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<v Speaker 1>little cheaper.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>So you can maybe get it for forty five or get it</v>

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<v Speaker 1>used for less, but unfortunately, they have not done what they should</v>

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<v Speaker 1>and made it freely available.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>So</v>

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<v Speaker 1>yes, the volume is not going to be as sensationalist as you</v>

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<v Speaker 1>think. Yes, the American Edition, Volume forty-seven specifically, is probably the one</v>

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<v Speaker 1>you should read.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>There aren't major concerns about it.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>I am not fond of the man who edited that volume.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>I do not have any I have not personally gone through and</v>

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<v Speaker 1>checked the translation against the German, but</v>

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<v Speaker 1>I don't have any hard evidence showing he played games with this,</v>

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<v Speaker 1>but I know that he was friendlier with the Jews than a</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Christian should be, certainly than a Lutheran should be.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Certainly the Lutheran editing this volume of Luther.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>But he's ultimately not the man who translated.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Bertram translated it, I believe was the gentleman's last name.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>The other man who edited it, the editor is the one who</v>

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<v Speaker 1>has some some questions there.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>But again, I don't have hard evidence that he did anything wrong.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>As far as I know, the volume is reliable.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>I've read it, nothing stood out as wrong to me, nothing clashed</v>

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<v Speaker 1>with what I know from the German, so it's probably fine.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>If you are concerned about any particular passage, you can always just</v>

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<v Speaker 1>take the German and drop it into an AI and get a</v>

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<v Speaker 1>literal translation of the German.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>That's going to be sufficient to see if the editor played any</v>

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<v Speaker 1>games there.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>But basically, yes, that's the option you want if you're going to</v>

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<v Speaker 1>read it in English, and it's not going to be what people</v>

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<v Speaker 1>have built it up to be because it's a theological treatise.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>It's not just polemic.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>It has polemical elements.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>It is a polemic as well, but it's not exclusively that.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>But yes, I to emphasize what I said at the beginning to</v>

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<v Speaker 1>repeat it, I do believe that Luther Luther wrote it.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>It sounds just like Luther, it sounds like his other polemics.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>You can read ones against, for instance, Henry VIII, he has a</v>

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<v Speaker 1>polemic against him in those more recent volume, it's on my shelves</v>

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<v Speaker 1>here, but I can't remember the number.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>The next question, I'm actually going to sort of punt this one,</v>

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<v Speaker 1>I guess, but</v>

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<v Speaker 1>I am in a position where I am increasingly asked to give</v>

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<v Speaker 1>counsel to people regarding a wide variety of issues, marriage, lack of</v>

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<v Speaker 1>marriage, addictions, anxiety, etc.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Often these problems and the requisite counsel are relatively simple, but sometimes</v>

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<v Speaker 1>something complex comes up and I am not as thoroughly equipped to</v>

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<v Speaker 1>deal with it as I would like to be.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>The trained and credentialed people to whom I would typically be advised</v>

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<v Speaker 1>to refer To refer them, pastors, psychologists, therapists, are often questionable, and</v>

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<v Speaker 1>I feel I'd be doing them a disservice by doing so.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Do you have any advice or recommendations for books or other resources</v>

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<v Speaker 1>that would be helpful?</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Both secular and Christian works on the subject are often reductive in</v>

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<v Speaker 1>the ways expounded in the addicted to psychologizing episode of Stone Choir.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>And then the reason given given the failings of the churches, this</v>

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<v Speaker 1>is a task that Christian men will have to more often bear.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>That's true.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>I I'll say a few things about it, but I'm going to</v>

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<v Speaker 1>make a note for myself.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>This is something where it just makes more sense if I add</v>

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<v Speaker 1>this to the show notes so that you can actually click through</v>

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<v Speaker 1>and find the resources that makes a little more sense than my</v>

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<v Speaker 1>just listing books.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>And also I want to spend the time to look at it</v>

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<v Speaker 1>a little more thoroughly.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Since I have kept up with the psychology literature and those things</v>

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<v Speaker 1>to some degree, but I haven't been heavily invested in that in,</v>

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<v Speaker 1>you know, twelve years or so, so I would like to do</v>

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<v Speaker 1>a refresher before I give too many recommendations on that.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, I answered previous questions about modalities that are permissible or at</v>

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<v Speaker 1>least not entirely suspect when it comes to psychology and therapy and</v>

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<v Speaker 1>things like that.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>That was in a previous Q<unk>A episode.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>So it's related to that, but insofar as specific resources are concerned,</v>

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<v Speaker 1>I'll put that in the show notes.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>I'll try and go over that this this coming week.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>But just sort of a basic starting point for a lot of</v>

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<v Speaker 1>people, just recommend some changes in behavior.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>A lot of the stuff where you're going to run into it,</v>

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<v Speaker 1>just go do some exercise.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>It's particularly for men.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Lift something heavy, go for a walk.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Your mental health is going to be so much better if you</v>

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<v Speaker 1>just get in a little bit of exercise and then lift something</v>

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<v Speaker 1>heavy? It's pretty simple.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>A lot of this stuff seems really complicated and really difficult and</v>

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<v Speaker 1>some of it is, I won't say that it isn't, but a</v>

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<v Speaker 1>lot of the system is really simple.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>God made what it takes for men to be happy a pretty</v>

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<v Speaker 1>short list of things and relatively achievable.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Part of it is you need to be in decent physical shape,</v>

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<v Speaker 1>not you know great physical shape.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>If you can achieve that, by all means, go for it.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>But get in a little bit of cardio, lift something heavy, do</v>

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<v Speaker 1>something you enjoy.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Don't spend all of your time staring at the anxiety box, whichever</v>

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<v Speaker 1>one it is you prefer, your iPhone, your TV, whatever it is.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Go out and do something else.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Those are sort of the baseline recommendations, and those things are all</v>

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<v Speaker 1>free practically.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>That's where you want to start and then from there obviously you</v>

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<v Speaker 1>can make recommendations out of God's word, you know, God cares for</v>

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<v Speaker 1>the sparrows, certainly he cares for you, and things like that.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>You're aware of those things.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>So that's some of the Krishna approach.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>But for specific resources for reading on it and understanding some of</v>

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<v Speaker 1>the underlying theory and theory and things like that.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>I will again put that in the show notes.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>So</v>

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<v Speaker 1>look for that in the coming week or two.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>The next question is question four.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Don't know why my form is being a little slow.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>There we go.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>For those of us who aspire to marry one day, which should</v>

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<v Speaker 1>be most men, how should we go about navigating laws regarding marriage?</v>

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<v Speaker 1>For example, what is your opinion on prenuptial agreements in light of</v>

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<v Speaker 1>the eighty percent of divorces being initiated by women?</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Is it permissible to be de facto married, rightly ordered without involving</v>

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<v Speaker 1>the state in your marriage, for example, getting a marriage license.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Do you think it would be worth moving to a state with</v>

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<v Speaker 1>better marriage laws, for example, Louisiana, Arkansas, and Arizona permit covenant marriages</v>

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<v Speaker 1>that enable the married couple to legally waive the possibility of no</v>

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<v Speaker 1>fault divorce?</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Permitting divorce only in cases of adultery or abandonment.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, it is definitely better if you can be somewhere that has</v>

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<v Speaker 1>better laws.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>That doesn't mean you necessarily move just for that, you know.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>California is going to be a great example since I'm a California</v>

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<v Speaker 1>attorney and I used to live in California.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>California marriage laws are</v>

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<v Speaker 1>really bad in terms of how they are enforced.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>On the books, they're not as bad.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>This is actually a really significant problem in California.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>On the books, California's laws are often pretty good.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Sometimes they have some cruft and things that have been added in</v>

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<v Speaker 1>recent years, but they're generally not that bad.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>It's the enforcement because the courts are insane and the judges are</v>

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<v Speaker 1>evil. So</v>

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<v Speaker 1>you're going to have to go to an attorney who specializes in</v>

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<v Speaker 1>the law in your state with regard to this, because there will</v>

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<v Speaker 1>be things you can do in some states that you cannot do</v>

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<v Speaker 1>in other states And so what is permissible in a prenuptial agreement</v>

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<v Speaker 1>is going to be a matter of state law.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>It's not a matter of there's no national standard for that.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>I do not object to prenuptial agreements per se.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>I would object to the inclusion of certain things in them.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>And so that's going to be a matter of ensuring that the</v>

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<v Speaker 1>covenants, the specific clauses in the prenuptial agreement are consonant with Christian</v>

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<v Speaker 1>morality. And so, just as an example, your state may or may</v>

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<v Speaker 1>not permit this.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>But if your state permits it, by all means have a prenuptial</v>

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<v Speaker 1>agreement that says in the case of infidelity, the party at fault</v>

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<v Speaker 1>gets nothing.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>The children go one hundred percent to the party not at fault.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>If your state permits that.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Your state may very well not.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>It's probably kind of likely that they will have some caveats there.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>But things like that are perfectly permissible because that's how it should</v>

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<v Speaker 1>be in our laws.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>So what you're doing is as a matter of private law, which</v>

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<v Speaker 1>is all a contract is, it's private law, as a matter of</v>

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<v Speaker 1>private law, you're filling in the gaps in the public law.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>And you're bringing it more in line with the moral law insofar</v>

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<v Speaker 1>as you are able to do so.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>That's perfectly permissible.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>But no, you can't include in your prenuptial agreement, if I decide</v>

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<v Speaker 1>I don't like you anymore, I can just tell you to leave</v>

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<v Speaker 1>and you get nothing.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>That's not morally acceptable.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>You can't do that.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>So it's going to be a matter of what your state permits</v>

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<v Speaker 1>and then what is in line with Christian morality.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Just make sure that you line up with both of those.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>And again, you're going to have to involve an attorney because this</v>

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<v Speaker 1>is going to be specific to your state.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, I recognize that's sort of the general advice you get from</v>

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<v Speaker 1>most attorneys is get a turn get an attorney's advice advice, right?</v>

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<v Speaker 1>But that is the reality for certain parts of the law, particularly</v>

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<v Speaker 1>this one.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>So So I would like to comment on the divorce rates as</v>

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<v Speaker 1>well, because</v>

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<v Speaker 1>the divorce rates look a lot worse than they actually are.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>And the reason they look worse than they actually are is because</v>

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<v Speaker 1>the people who are pushing the narrative hate marriage they want you</v>

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<v Speaker 1>to despair.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Only ever look at the statistics for first marriages.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>That's the game they play.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Because what they'll say is they'll say, oh, this giant percentage of</v>

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<v Speaker 1>marriages end in div well, yeah, it's they end in divorce because</v>

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<v Speaker 1>it's the woman who's had 15 husbands.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>They don't throw out the outlier.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>So if you're going to look at those data, make sure you're</v>

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<v Speaker 1>looking at first marriages and maybe second marriages.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Don't include the people who've had six, seven marriages.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>That's going to throw off the actual relevant answer because those people</v>

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<v Speaker 1>are horrible outliers and you don't want to include them.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Because unless you're going to be the kind of person who is</v>

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<v Speaker 1>going to have seven marriages, then that's not really particularly relevant to</v>

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<v Speaker 1>you that the person who has a sixth marriage often also gets</v>

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<v Speaker 1>divorced and has a seventh.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>So just recognize they play games of those statistics.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>It's you know the standard thing, lies, damned lies and statistics, right?</v>

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<v Speaker 1>So you have to be aware of how they play these games.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>And that is very much done with the marriage and divorce rates.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>With regard to</v>

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<v Speaker 1>marrying, but not being married in the eyes of the state.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>So in other words, going and having the church ceremony, but not</v>

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<v Speaker 1>being married according to what the state considers a marriage.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>I would generally say you should avoid doing that unless there is</v>

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<v Speaker 1>I won't give a categorical blanket no you must not do that,</v>

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<v Speaker 1>it's always wrong.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>If the state is so evil and corrupt that the best thing</v>

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<v Speaker 1>you can do is not have the state involved at all.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>The state's going to involve itself anyway, just so you know.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>But if you can minimize that involvement</v>

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<v Speaker 1>under those circumstances, I don't think that that's morally impermissible.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>You know, if you're in the Soviet Union and somehow it's going</v>

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<v Speaker 1>to decrease your odds of being sent to the gulag, then by</v>

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<v Speaker 1>all means don't tell the state.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>But</v>

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<v Speaker 1>most of the time</v>

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<v Speaker 1>under current circumstances in our country, in the United States, it's not</v>

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<v Speaker 1>really going to benefit you in any significant way to have the</v>

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<v Speaker 1>church, which the church may not even sign off on your marriage</v>

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<v Speaker 1>if you don't go through the the proper process so called.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>It's not going to benefit you significantly, if at all.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>In many cases, it may actually make things more difficult for you</v>

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<v Speaker 1>and harm you in terms of the outcome you want to achieve.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>In a lot of states, it's not going to protect you with</v>

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<v Speaker 1>regard to regard to personal property or anything like that, if you</v>

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<v Speaker 1>should happen to get divorced.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Again a question for an attorney who's actually versed in your state</v>

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<v Speaker 1>law, since I do not know the law of marriage in every</v>

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<v Speaker 1>state. I've never practiced that sort of law.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>But odds are not going to significantly benefit you, not going to</v>

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<v Speaker 1>be something that you necessarily want to pursue.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>And I don't think that our circumstances are bad enough to make</v>

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<v Speaker 1>it compelling that you should do that.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>I think follow the ordinary procedure, do the thing that is considered</v>

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<v Speaker 1>the right way to do it, and</v>

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<v Speaker 1>take advantage of premarriage counseling, if it is available and you have</v>

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<v Speaker 1>a good pastor, talk to couples who are in your church and</v>

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<v Speaker 1>have been married for forty, fifty, sixty years.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Make sure that you are purposeful in what you are trying to</v>

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<v Speaker 1>do with that marriage, and that both you and your wife understand,</v>

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<v Speaker 1>your future wife in this case understand, this is for better or</v>

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<v Speaker 1>worse, in sickness or health, until death do us part.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Make sure you're both on the same page and understand exactly what</v>

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<v Speaker 1>it is you're doing.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>That's going to go a long way toward resolving these issues.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Part of it is just choosing the right person up front, right?</v>

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<v Speaker 1>That's the reality of it.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>That doesn't make it easier to do, but you can take some</v>

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<v Speaker 1>steps to try and sort of hedge your odds, right?</v>

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<v Speaker 1>To make it more likely you've chosen a woman who's going to</v>

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<v Speaker 1>make a good and loyal wife.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>And for the women listening, you've chosen a man who's going to</v>

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<v Speaker 1>make a good and loyal husband.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Right? Take advantage of the resources you have available to you.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>I did see someone ask about taking questions from live chat.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>This is not actually going to be one of the numbered questions</v>

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<v Speaker 1>since I'm just answering it and passing, of course, the transcript.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>We'll go ahead and number em wrong.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>But yes, I do look at the chat.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>I often will take them and then answer them in the future</v>

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<v Speaker 1>if I do not have time to get to them tonight.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Because I try to keep this around an hour.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>I often run over, but I try not to run over by</v>

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<v Speaker 1>too much.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>In part because the transcript then runs over and then I have</v>

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<v Speaker 1>to split the transcript on the forum and other places and it</v>

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<v Speaker 1>just makes it a little bit more of a mess to handle.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>But the next question</v>

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<v Speaker 1>question number five.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>This issue has been bothering me for some time for reading and</v>

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<v Speaker 1>scripture memorization I use the ESV.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Do you know why the choice was made not to capitalize the</v>

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<v Speaker 1>pronouns which refer to God when they were producing that translation?</v>

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<v Speaker 1>In either formal or casual writing, shouldn't the pronouns which refer to</v>

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<v Speaker 1>God be capitalized to be the most reverent we can be?</v>

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<v Speaker 1>This has bothered me for years.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>That actually bothers me as well, and I think it's obvious from</v>

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<v Speaker 1>my writing that my personal preference is certainly to capitalize all of</v>

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<v Speaker 1>the pronouns and pretty much all the nouns that refer to God.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>So</v>

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<v Speaker 1>this has really two different answers.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>The one is the answer they always give, and sort of the</v>

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<v Speaker 1>practical answer, and then the second is the real answer, right?</v>

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<v Speaker 1>The first answer is that capitalizing the pronouns that refer to God</v>

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<v Speaker 1>is actually relatively novel.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>I think the earliest translation that did it in English goes back</v>

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<v Speaker 1>to</v>

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<v Speaker 1>maybe the 1800s, maybe the 1700s.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>It's not very far back.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Notably, the 1611 King James did not.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>And so people who are reading the King James and saying, well,</v>

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<v Speaker 1>the King James cap Yes, your King James does.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>The original did not.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Of course you go back far enough and English turns back into</v>

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<v Speaker 1>German and then it's capitalizing things again because German capitalizes nouns, but</v>

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<v Speaker 1>not pronouns.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Which is another thing worth noting.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>In Luther's translation, for instance, in Luther, no one is going to</v>

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<v Speaker 1>accuse Luther of being irreverent with regard to his view of the</v>

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<v Speaker 1>transcendent God, right?</v>

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<v Speaker 1>He didn't capitalize God's pronouns because German doesn't do that.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Now, he did write the German equivalent of the Lord de Herr</v>

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<v Speaker 1>in all caps, which I believe is part of how we wound</v>

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<v Speaker 1>up with that convention</v>

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<v Speaker 1>when translating the Lord in the Old Testament, it is in small</v>

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<v Speaker 1>caps in many English Bibles.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>I believe that was following Luther's basically, he started that convention with</v>

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<v Speaker 1>his first translation of the scriptures into German.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>So insofar as the capitalization in the ESV and other such translation</v>

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<v Speaker 1>is concerned, the reason that the translators will give for not doing</v>

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<v Speaker 1>so, there are four or five, but the two core reasons, the</v>

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<v Speaker 1>two most important, most salient reasons.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>One, it's just not something that we really have historically done in</v>

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<v Speaker 1>English. It was something that people started doing, but it doesn't go</v>

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<v Speaker 1>back very far, and they just stopped doing it.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>And then also, there is no style guide that recommends it, they</v>

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<v Speaker 1>love to appeal to that, you know, take that or leave it,</v>

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<v Speaker 1>whatever that's of a value to you, right?</v>

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<v Speaker 1>If you're following a style guide, then you follow the style guide</v>

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<v Speaker 1>unless you make your own subversion of it.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Right. The other reason they'll give, and this one I actually find</v>

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<v Speaker 1>more compelling, but I don't find it sufficiently compelling to change my</v>

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<v Speaker 1>stance. They will say that if you are deciding to capitalize or</v>

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<v Speaker 1>not capitalize a pronoun, you are in addition to making the translation</v>

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<v Speaker 1>choices, right, which the translator has to make translation choices.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>That's another layer.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>You're now actually making some theology choices.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Because, for instance, there are some places in the Old Testament where</v>

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<v Speaker 1>you're going to have to decide if the angel of the Lord</v>

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<v Speaker 1>is an angel or Christ.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>And if you don't capitalize things other than basically proper nouns referring</v>

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<v Speaker 1>to God, then you don't have to make that theological call.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>I understand that, because often translators are not going to be the</v>

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<v Speaker 1>one who should be making that theological call.</v>

00:31:47.920 --> 00:31:50.400
<v Speaker 1>Sometimes they are, sometimes they aren't.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>I think that when a proper English translation of the Septuagint is</v>

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<v Speaker 1>made, those calls will have to be made at that time.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>I think that's the right way to do it.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>And I think incidentally angel of the Lord, angel should probably be</v>

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<v Speaker 1>capitalized in many of those cases because it's very clearly, to my</v>

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<v Speaker 1>mind, referring to Christ.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>And so it is referring to God and should be capitalized.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>I think it is a proper sign of reverence.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>It is something that English permits us to do.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>You can't do it in German because capitalizing pronouns would make you</v>

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<v Speaker 1>kind of seem insane.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Because either you follow the modern orthography and don't capitalize them at</v>

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<v Speaker 1>all, or you follow the older orthography and capitalize them all.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>You do one or the other.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>It'd be a weird hodgepodge system if you tried to do it</v>

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<v Speaker 1>in German.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>English doesn't have that problem.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>This is an instance where English provides us the flexibility to do</v>

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<v Speaker 1>this. I think we should do it.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>We sort of randomly capitalize nouns and things sometimes in English when</v>

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<v Speaker 1>we want to show a certain sort of emphasis on things, right?</v>

00:32:56.000 --> 00:32:59.520
<v Speaker 1>If you're talking about the establishment and you want to imply some</v>

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<v Speaker 1>things, you capitalize the E.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>So I don't think capitalizing the pronouns for God is at odds</v>

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<v Speaker 1>with English grammar.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's permitted by English grammar.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>I think it is a sign of reverence.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's something we should do.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>And then the second point, the real reason, many of them are</v>

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<v Speaker 1>theological liberals.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Ultimately what they're doing is trying to downgrade the status of God.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>They're playing games with the text, insofar as they can get away</v>

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<v Speaker 1>with it, they're doing it for nefarious reasons.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>A lot of times they're just spineless liberals, but they are doing</v>

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<v Speaker 1>it for wicked reasons, not because the Chicago style manual tells them</v>

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<v Speaker 1>they have to.</v>

00:33:37.280 --> 00:33:42.160
<v Speaker 1>That's the excuse they give, but the real reason is that they</v>

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<v Speaker 1>don't hold God in the high esteem they should.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>And they should never have been on a translation committee.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>So you have their reasons and then you have the real reason.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not saying all of them are wicked, of course.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>There are some translators who try very hard to be faithful to</v>

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<v Speaker 1>scripture, but there are a lot of men who do it for</v>

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<v Speaker 1>the academic prowess, and they're not good men.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>The next question here, I guess shifting gears a little bit, tangentially</v>

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<v Speaker 1>related. I was wondering if you had any insight into speed reading</v>

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<v Speaker 1>courses. I know you have had to do a lot of reading</v>

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<v Speaker 1>for your legal profession and on theology.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>And about 15 other subjects, yes.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>I have to do a lot of reading for work, most of</v>

00:34:36.960 --> 00:34:39.520
<v Speaker 1>which is skim worthy for me to get the gist.</v>

00:34:39.520 --> 00:34:43.280
<v Speaker 1>I also want to read faster to go through other material.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>So insofar as speed reading is concerned, this is actually an issue</v>

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<v Speaker 1>that I looked into a lot back when I was doing psychology</v>

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<v Speaker 1>in</v>

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<v Speaker 1>undergrad and then also interested in it up through sort of law</v>

00:34:57.200 --> 00:35:01.920
<v Speaker 1>school, but I went back and looked at the current state of</v>

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<v Speaker 1>the research to make sure that what I remembered was consistent with</v>

00:35:05.680 --> 00:35:09.360
<v Speaker 1>what they have found and it's been consistent over a course of</v>

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<v Speaker 1>decades now.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Speed reading by and large is snake oil.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Not entirely, so before anyone gets angry at me about that, or</v>

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<v Speaker 1>get angry at me, I don't really care.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>But the claims of a thousand words a minute, two thousand words</v>

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<v Speaker 1>a minute, you get even crazier claims than you get the people</v>

00:35:28.160 --> 00:35:31.040
<v Speaker 1>who are just sitting there flipping pages saying they they read the</v>

00:35:31.040 --> 00:35:35.440
<v Speaker 1>page, right, as it barely hit their retina they read it.</v>

00:35:35.440 --> 00:35:36.800
<v Speaker 1>Complete nonsense.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>It's not something human beings can do.</v>

00:35:39.200 --> 00:35:41.760
<v Speaker 1>Is there maybe a weird outlier out there?</v>

00:35:41.760 --> 00:35:43.360
<v Speaker 1>Sure, Asperger's exist.</v>

00:35:43.360 --> 00:35:46.080
<v Speaker 1>Like maybe that guy is out there somewhere.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Most people can see some sort of improvement.</v>

00:35:50.080 --> 00:35:54.800
<v Speaker 1>There are different levels of how quickly people read basically, they correlate</v>

00:35:54.800 --> 00:35:59.280
<v Speaker 1>almost exactly with level of education, at least they did historically.</v>

00:35:59.280 --> 00:36:02.720
<v Speaker 1>Now, because of the weakening of admissions standards and things like that,</v>

00:36:02.720 --> 00:36:03.760
<v Speaker 1>they no longer do.</v>

00:36:03.760 --> 00:36:08.320
<v Speaker 1>It's partly a correlation with intelligence, but not entirely.</v>

00:36:08.320 --> 00:36:13.200
<v Speaker 1>Someone with some university education, if I remember correctly, is going to</v>

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<v Speaker 1>be around two hundred and fifty to three hundred words per minute.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>That's sustained.</v>

00:36:17.280 --> 00:36:20.560
<v Speaker 1>And there's a difference between sort of burst and sustained.</v>

00:36:20.560 --> 00:36:24.240
<v Speaker 1>So reading a short article is different from reading a thousand-page book.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>The sustained one is going to matter more given what you're saying</v>

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<v Speaker 1>about reading and just generally this sort of question, the couching of</v>

00:36:30.640 --> 00:36:32.960
<v Speaker 1>the question here.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>So if you can get up to that 300 words per minute</v>

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<v Speaker 1>level, that's pretty good.</v>

00:36:36.480 --> 00:36:38.080
<v Speaker 1>That's about what you want to hit.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Are there individuals who can go higher?</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Sure. If you take some of the reputable courses, and there are</v>

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<v Speaker 1>some that are reputable because they're actually based on psychology, understanding of</v>

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<v Speaker 1>how human beings process things, short-term memory, how your eyes move across</v>

00:36:55.200 --> 00:36:57.760
<v Speaker 1>the page is actually really important.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>You could maybe get</v>

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<v Speaker 1>ten to twenty percent improvement in your readings, which it it's not</v>

00:37:03.360 --> 00:37:06.240
<v Speaker 1>nothing. But it's not a miracle claim, right?</v>

00:37:06.240 --> 00:37:12.000
<v Speaker 1>You're not tripling or quadrupling or whatever your reading speed, you can</v>

00:37:12.000 --> 00:37:13.840
<v Speaker 1>see some benefit from that.</v>

00:37:13.840 --> 00:37:19.120
<v Speaker 1>But beyond that, I think just some practical recommendations may serve you</v>

00:37:19.120 --> 00:37:20.480
<v Speaker 1>even better.</v>

00:37:20.480 --> 00:37:26.000
<v Speaker 1>And the state of the research basically shows that the training for</v>

00:37:26.000 --> 00:37:31.840
<v Speaker 1>speed reading is about as beneficial, or perhaps even slightly less beneficial,</v>

00:37:31.840 --> 00:37:38.880
<v Speaker 1>than the metacognition, which basically means understanding how your brain processes the</v>

00:37:38.880 --> 00:37:43.600
<v Speaker 1>things that you read, and then how to take what you've processed</v>

00:37:43.840 --> 00:37:47.200
<v Speaker 1>and store it in a way that will be retrievable in the</v>

00:37:47.200 --> 00:37:54.560
<v Speaker 1>future. So understanding those things is probably a better starting place.</v>

00:37:54.560 --> 00:37:56.560
<v Speaker 1>So that would be one of my two recommendations.</v>

00:37:56.560 --> 00:38:00.320
<v Speaker 1>The other would be do what is within your power to do</v>

00:38:00.800 --> 00:38:03.680
<v Speaker 1>to improve your attention span.</v>

00:38:04.160 --> 00:38:07.040
<v Speaker 1>That's not obviously a personal attack.</v>

00:38:07.040 --> 00:38:11.040
<v Speaker 1>We all have shortened attention spans these days because of the hell</v>

00:38:11.040 --> 00:38:12.320
<v Speaker 1>rectangle, right?</v>

00:38:12.320 --> 00:38:14.720
<v Speaker 1>Because of Because of all the screens in our lives and all</v>

00:38:14.720 --> 00:38:18.240
<v Speaker 1>the other things that are designed to give you that dopamine hit</v>

00:38:18.400 --> 00:38:22.080
<v Speaker 1>and to make you want to click next, next, next, and just</v>

00:38:22.080 --> 00:38:24.720
<v Speaker 1>never stop staring at it, you know, doom scrolling, whatever you want</v>

00:38:24.720 --> 00:38:26.320
<v Speaker 1>to call it.</v>

00:38:26.320 --> 00:38:30.160
<v Speaker 1>If you can pull yourself out of that morass, then by all</v>

00:38:30.160 --> 00:38:33.120
<v Speaker 1>means that's going to help you with reading, because part of the</v>

00:38:33.120 --> 00:38:39.520
<v Speaker 1>reason modern readers have so much trouble maintaining a reasonable speed of</v>

00:38:39.520 --> 00:38:42.800
<v Speaker 1>reading is because they're getting distracted constantly.</v>

00:38:42.800 --> 00:38:46.000
<v Speaker 1>If you read ten words and then stare at your phone, you're</v>

00:38:46.000 --> 00:38:48.000
<v Speaker 1>not going to get as much done as the person who can</v>

00:38:48.000 --> 00:38:49.760
<v Speaker 1>sit for an hour and just read.</v>

00:38:49.760 --> 00:38:53.040
<v Speaker 1>Which is something human beings used to be able to do.</v>

00:38:53.040 --> 00:38:57.200
<v Speaker 1>So improve your attention span, focus on metacognition.</v>

00:38:57.200 --> 00:39:00.800
<v Speaker 1>If you can find a reputable course, maybe consider doing a little</v>

00:39:00.800 --> 00:39:03.680
<v Speaker 1>bit of it just to get that, you know, ten, fifteen percent</v>

00:39:03.680 --> 00:39:08.320
<v Speaker 1>boost But don't expect to read a thousand words per minute.</v>

00:39:08.320 --> 00:39:16.000
<v Speaker 1>Even under ideal laboratory conditions with men who are already</v>

00:39:16.000 --> 00:39:21.600
<v Speaker 1>very good at reading quickly, highly intelligent, trained men, they could only</v>

00:39:21.600 --> 00:39:24.720
<v Speaker 1>get them up to like six hundred, seven hundred words per minute.</v>

00:39:24.720 --> 00:39:29.280
<v Speaker 1>Which is fast, of course, but it's not the crazy claims of</v>

00:39:29.280 --> 00:39:33.680
<v Speaker 1>the speed reading programs, and it's under laboratory conditions for a limited</v>

00:39:33.680 --> 00:39:35.040
<v Speaker 1>period of time.</v>

00:39:35.040 --> 00:39:36.800
<v Speaker 1>You're just not going to achieve that.</v>

00:39:36.800 --> 00:39:41.440
<v Speaker 1>So if you can hit that 250, 300 words per minute sustained,</v>

00:39:41.440 --> 00:39:43.680
<v Speaker 1>by all means consider that a good achievement.</v>

00:39:43.680 --> 00:39:45.760
<v Speaker 1>That's probably enough.</v>

00:39:45.760 --> 00:39:49.280
<v Speaker 1>Then the other practical recommendation is just you're going to need a</v>

00:39:49.280 --> 00:39:54.240
<v Speaker 1>hierarchy. Prioritize the things that are actually worthy of your time and</v>

00:39:54.240 --> 00:39:56.320
<v Speaker 1>don't read the things that aren't.</v>

00:39:56.480 --> 00:39:58.960
<v Speaker 1>You get men who think that as long as they're reading, they're</v>

00:39:58.960 --> 00:40:02.640
<v Speaker 1>achieving something, you may be reading complete crap.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>You may just be wasting your time.</v>

00:40:05.120 --> 00:40:07.920
<v Speaker 1>So why?</v>

00:40:07.920 --> 00:40:11.600
<v Speaker 1>Focus Focus on the things you need to read and set aside</v>

00:40:11.600 --> 00:40:13.280
<v Speaker 1>the things you don't, right?</v>

00:40:20.320 --> 00:40:24.720
<v Speaker 1>The next question, definitely shifting gears a little bit here.</v>

00:40:24.720 --> 00:40:28.400
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna open up a couple so that I don't have this</v>

00:40:28.400 --> 00:40:30.720
<v Speaker 1>tab loading issue going on.</v>

00:40:34.080 --> 00:40:37.520
<v Speaker 1>And I do see Do see people asking about taking questions and</v>

00:40:37.520 --> 00:40:40.080
<v Speaker 1>things, and yes, you can just ask them in the chat.</v>

00:40:40.080 --> 00:40:42.400
<v Speaker 1>I will likely notice them.</v>

00:40:42.400 --> 00:40:44.880
<v Speaker 1>If I don't, then please put them on the forum.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Question about the gift of celibacy.</v>

00:40:46.720 --> 00:40:48.560
<v Speaker 1>This one comes up every so often.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>I've heard you mention the gift of celibacy and how rare it</v>

00:40:51.760 --> 00:40:54.480
<v Speaker 1>is several times, if you're willing to share, do you have that</v>

00:40:54.480 --> 00:40:58.720
<v Speaker 1>gift? No, I do actually like women, so no.</v>

00:40:58.720 --> 00:41:02.560
<v Speaker 1>That would certainly make focusing on reading and things more convenient and</v>

00:41:02.560 --> 00:41:06.400
<v Speaker 1>easier because women are very distracting as every man who does not</v>

00:41:06.400 --> 00:41:08.720
<v Speaker 1>have the gift of celibacy knows.</v>

00:41:08.720 --> 00:41:11.760
<v Speaker 1>So as I pointed out, just go over the the basic of</v>

00:41:11.760 --> 00:41:13.040
<v Speaker 1>the gift.</v>

00:41:13.280 --> 00:41:18.480
<v Speaker 1>You know if you have it because if you have ever been</v>

00:41:18.800 --> 00:41:21.120
<v Speaker 1>tempted by a woman, you don't.</v>

00:41:21.120 --> 00:41:22.960
<v Speaker 1>Because that's what the gift of celibacy is.</v>

00:41:22.960 --> 00:41:26.560
<v Speaker 1>It's God removing that desire from you so that you can just</v>

00:41:26.720 --> 00:41:30.800
<v Speaker 1>100% focus on whatever it is you're doing.</v>

00:41:30.800 --> 00:41:35.440
<v Speaker 1>Which for some men, doing some tasks, God wants them to have</v>

00:41:35.440 --> 00:41:38.080
<v Speaker 1>that because then they can focus on whatever it is of that</v>

00:41:38.080 --> 00:41:40.080
<v Speaker 1>utmost importance.</v>

00:41:40.160 --> 00:41:42.560
<v Speaker 1>No one listening to this is going to have the gift.</v>

00:41:42.560 --> 00:41:44.400
<v Speaker 1>It's just it's very rare.</v>

00:41:44.400 --> 00:41:47.520
<v Speaker 1>And it seems like God almost never hands it out these days,</v>

00:41:47.520 --> 00:41:51.760
<v Speaker 1>so but no, I am I would not count myself as one</v>

00:41:51.760 --> 00:41:52.800
<v Speaker 1>who has that gift.</v>

00:41:52.800 --> 00:41:56.640
<v Speaker 1>I have indeed dated women in the past.</v>

00:41:56.640 --> 00:42:01.680
<v Speaker 1>The next question, question eight.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>How do you know if you have the characteristics or traits needed</v>

00:42:05.520 --> 00:42:12.400
<v Speaker 1>to be a leader, more specifically a political leader of some sort.</v>

00:42:12.400 --> 00:42:15.200
<v Speaker 1>This is one of those where you're sort of going to know</v>

00:42:15.920 --> 00:42:18.800
<v Speaker 1>if you are a leader, you're going to have a general sense</v>

00:42:18.800 --> 00:42:22.640
<v Speaker 1>that you have the abilities, you have the capacity to do that.</v>

00:42:22.640 --> 00:42:24.880
<v Speaker 1>You know, you run into Dunning Kruger and things like that, of</v>

00:42:24.880 --> 00:42:25.280
<v Speaker 1>course too.</v>

00:42:25.280 --> 00:42:27.440
<v Speaker 1>You're going to get many who have no ability who think they</v>

00:42:27.440 --> 00:42:28.320
<v Speaker 1>do. But</v>

00:42:29.600 --> 00:42:33.920
<v Speaker 1>you can look at how your life has played out and get</v>

00:42:33.920 --> 00:42:38.480
<v Speaker 1>some idea of whether or not you have those abilities.</v>

00:42:38.480 --> 00:42:41.360
<v Speaker 1>And, you know, part of it depends on your age, right?</v>

00:42:41.680 --> 00:42:44.320
<v Speaker 1>If you're always the one in your group of friends who winds</v>

00:42:44.320 --> 00:42:44.400
<v Speaker 1>up</v>

00:42:45.440 --> 00:42:49.440
<v Speaker 1>making the plans or at least saying we're going with that plan,</v>

00:42:49.440 --> 00:42:52.640
<v Speaker 1>you're kind of filling the role of the leader of the group.</v>

00:42:52.640 --> 00:42:56.480
<v Speaker 1>If people look to you for answers, you're kind of filling the</v>

00:42:56.480 --> 00:42:58.240
<v Speaker 1>role of the leader of the group.</v>

00:42:58.240 --> 00:43:04.240
<v Speaker 1>If you're comfortable filling that role, that's also a positive indicator.</v>

00:43:04.240 --> 00:43:08.000
<v Speaker 1>It's going to be something that you're going to have a personal</v>

00:43:08.000 --> 00:43:11.840
<v Speaker 1>internal sense of it with regard to whether or not you have</v>

00:43:11.840 --> 00:43:17.040
<v Speaker 1>been given the abilities, whether or not you have cultivated the abilities</v>

00:43:17.040 --> 00:43:19.440
<v Speaker 1>necessary to be a leader.</v>

00:43:19.440 --> 00:43:23.840
<v Speaker 1>I'm not saying you can't equip yourself better than you are currently</v>

00:43:23.840 --> 00:43:26.480
<v Speaker 1>equipped, because certainly you can study some of these things, right?</v>

00:43:26.480 --> 00:43:29.280
<v Speaker 1>I've got books on rhetoric on my shelves here.</v>

00:43:29.280 --> 00:43:32.080
<v Speaker 1>You can do things like that that will make you better at</v>

00:43:32.080 --> 00:43:36.240
<v Speaker 1>that role than you are now, but there are some things you</v>

00:43:36.240 --> 00:43:38.400
<v Speaker 1>have or you don't.</v>

00:43:38.400 --> 00:43:41.520
<v Speaker 1>One of the things is going to be charisma.</v>

00:43:41.520 --> 00:43:44.560
<v Speaker 1>Leaders need a certain amount of charisma.</v>

00:43:44.560 --> 00:43:47.200
<v Speaker 1>You need more of it the higher up you are, basically, in</v>

00:43:47.200 --> 00:43:48.800
<v Speaker 1>the hierarchy.</v>

00:43:48.800 --> 00:43:53.520
<v Speaker 1>A man who has zero charisma can probably lead, but he's going</v>

00:43:53.520 --> 00:43:54.960
<v Speaker 1>to find it a lot more difficult.</v>

00:43:54.960 --> 00:43:59.520
<v Speaker 1>He's going to have to convince men in practically a purely rational</v>

00:43:59.520 --> 00:44:02.640
<v Speaker 1>way, which is really not how human beings operate.</v>

00:44:02.640 --> 00:44:06.720
<v Speaker 1>So there are things that you have to have innately and there</v>

00:44:06.720 --> 00:44:09.680
<v Speaker 1>are things that you cultivate and those are related of course because</v>

00:44:09.920 --> 00:44:13.680
<v Speaker 1>even having an innate ability doesn't mean that you're an expert.</v>

00:44:13.680 --> 00:44:18.560
<v Speaker 1>If you have innate artistic ability, it's still going to take years</v>

00:44:18.560 --> 00:44:23.440
<v Speaker 1>of effort to become the best version of you at that.</v>

00:44:23.440 --> 00:44:27.520
<v Speaker 1>The same thing is true with leaders, with public speakers.</v>

00:44:27.520 --> 00:44:31.520
<v Speaker 1>So if you are thinking about going that route and you have</v>

00:44:31.520 --> 00:44:34.320
<v Speaker 1>questions about whether or not you have what it takes, join a</v>

00:44:34.320 --> 00:44:35.600
<v Speaker 1>debate club.</v>

00:44:35.600 --> 00:44:38.480
<v Speaker 1>See if public speaking is something that you can even do.</v>

00:44:38.480 --> 00:44:42.320
<v Speaker 1>Some people think that public speaking is worse than death, so If</v>

00:44:42.320 --> 00:44:44.560
<v Speaker 1>you're one of those, you're probably going to find leadership kind of</v>

00:44:44.560 --> 00:44:50.480
<v Speaker 1>challenging. Put yourself in situations where you have the opportunity to see</v>

00:44:50.480 --> 00:44:53.040
<v Speaker 1>if you are able to rise to the level of a leader</v>

00:44:53.040 --> 00:44:53.920
<v Speaker 1>in a group.</v>

00:44:53.920 --> 00:44:55.920
<v Speaker 1>If not, then you don't have that.</v>

00:44:55.920 --> 00:44:57.120
<v Speaker 1>Do something else.</v>

00:44:57.120 --> 00:45:00.480
<v Speaker 1>If you have it, pursue it, cultivate that talent, and see where</v>

00:45:00.480 --> 00:45:02.240
<v Speaker 1>it takes you.</v>

00:45:11.600 --> 00:45:15.840
<v Speaker 1>The next question is question nine.</v>

00:45:15.840 --> 00:45:18.160
<v Speaker 1>When do you quit your job?</v>

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<v Speaker 1>This is tangential to the Iran conflict.</v>

00:45:21.920 --> 00:45:24.640
<v Speaker 1>Now it seemed to me in that domain you would want as</v>

00:45:24.640 --> 00:45:28.240
<v Speaker 1>many whites as possible, so that way if we later get control</v>

00:45:28.240 --> 00:45:31.040
<v Speaker 1>back we already have ample people to ensure we are able to</v>

00:45:31.040 --> 00:45:36.560
<v Speaker 1>properly defend ourselves Particularly when it comes to the production of weapons.</v>

00:45:36.560 --> 00:45:39.920
<v Speaker 1>It is jam-packed with Jews and all sorts of other groups.</v>

00:45:39.920 --> 00:45:42.640
<v Speaker 1>In my mind, it would actually be very bad if that were</v>

00:45:42.640 --> 00:45:44.960
<v Speaker 1>completely 100% controlled by them.</v>

00:45:44.960 --> 00:45:46.160
<v Speaker 1>I would agree.</v>

00:45:46.160 --> 00:45:50.080
<v Speaker 1>That was my rationalization at any rate, although destroying the Iranian regime</v>

00:45:50.080 --> 00:45:53.360
<v Speaker 1>is not in and of itself particularly wicked in my opinion.</v>

00:45:53.360 --> 00:45:57.440
<v Speaker 1>Nevertheless it seems to me that aiding in their destruction even indirectly</v>

00:45:57.440 --> 00:46:00.080
<v Speaker 1>still gives the wicked reason to rejoice.</v>

00:46:00.080 --> 00:46:01.040
<v Speaker 1>My main problem here is</v>

00:46:02.000 --> 00:46:04.320
<v Speaker 1>I am made uncomfortable by the fact that I have no real</v>

00:46:04.320 --> 00:46:05.760
<v Speaker 1>exit criteria.</v>

00:46:05.760 --> 00:46:09.360
<v Speaker 1>I suppose I have to think of something regardless, but Penny for</v>

00:46:09.360 --> 00:46:11.840
<v Speaker 1>your thoughts.</v>

00:46:11.840 --> 00:46:12.160
<v Speaker 1>So</v>

00:46:13.760 --> 00:46:18.400
<v Speaker 1>obviously this person is w working in the munitions field, we'll call</v>

00:46:18.400 --> 00:46:20.000
<v Speaker 1>it broadly.</v>

00:46:20.000 --> 00:46:25.360
<v Speaker 1>I don't think if you're working for Northrop Grumman or whatever other</v>

00:46:25.360 --> 00:46:27.200
<v Speaker 1>Raytheon, whatever other</v>

00:46:28.160 --> 00:46:30.480
<v Speaker 1>defense industry contractor it happens to be.</v>

00:46:30.480 --> 00:46:32.240
<v Speaker 1>I have a number of friends who work for those.</v>

00:46:32.240 --> 00:46:36.400
<v Speaker 1>I lived near some of their facilities in California.</v>

00:46:36.400 --> 00:46:39.360
<v Speaker 1>If you are working for them, I don't think what you're doing</v>

00:46:39.360 --> 00:46:40.640
<v Speaker 1>is inherently wicked.</v>

00:46:40.640 --> 00:46:44.160
<v Speaker 1>I don't think that it's sin to continue working there.</v>

00:46:44.160 --> 00:46:50.320
<v Speaker 1>Weapons of war have to be produced because war is a reality</v>

00:46:50.400 --> 00:46:53.360
<v Speaker 1>of man's life upon the earth, right?</v>

00:46:53.360 --> 00:46:55.440
<v Speaker 1>You can think of the line from Job.</v>

00:46:55.440 --> 00:46:58.160
<v Speaker 1>Yes, it is slightly different in the Septuagint, so I have to</v>

00:46:58.160 --> 00:47:03.120
<v Speaker 1>rememorize it, but the life of man upon the earth is war.</v>

00:47:03.120 --> 00:47:06.080
<v Speaker 1>Now are there lines?</v>

00:47:06.080 --> 00:47:07.760
<v Speaker 1>I think the answer is yes.</v>

00:47:07.760 --> 00:47:11.840
<v Speaker 1>If you were, say, living in the Soviet Union, we'll just go</v>

00:47:11.840 --> 00:47:16.320
<v Speaker 1>back to that example, much like earlier, and you are working on</v>

00:47:16.320 --> 00:47:20.480
<v Speaker 1>their nuclear weapons program, I do think that you should have some</v>

00:47:20.480 --> 00:47:25.600
<v Speaker 1>very serious moral qualms about arming a regime that wicked with nuclear</v>

00:47:25.600 --> 00:47:30.320
<v Speaker 1>weapons. Now, is the US regime currently wicked?</v>

00:47:30.320 --> 00:47:34.400
<v Speaker 1>I think the answer is unequivocally yes.</v>

00:47:34.400 --> 00:47:37.200
<v Speaker 1>Are you arming them with nuclear weapons?</v>

00:47:37.200 --> 00:47:41.120
<v Speaker 1>No, they already have rather many thousands of those.</v>

00:47:41.120 --> 00:47:46.400
<v Speaker 1>What you are ultimately doing is producing the armaments of war for</v>

00:47:46.720 --> 00:47:48.720
<v Speaker 1>your government.</v>

00:47:48.720 --> 00:47:53.600
<v Speaker 1>Even if your government is doing some things that are evil, it</v>

00:47:53.600 --> 00:47:56.400
<v Speaker 1>is still doing some things that are good because the military does</v>

00:47:56.400 --> 00:48:01.920
<v Speaker 1>still act as defense of the United States of America.</v>

00:48:01.920 --> 00:48:06.160
<v Speaker 1>So I won't pretend that it's a simple question, you know, it's</v>

00:48:06.160 --> 00:48:08.800
<v Speaker 1>not a trivial question, it's not an irrelevant question.</v>

00:48:08.800 --> 00:48:10.080
<v Speaker 1>There's a moral</v>

00:48:10.960 --> 00:48:13.840
<v Speaker 1>aspect to these things.</v>

00:48:13.840 --> 00:48:18.560
<v Speaker 1>But I don't think that you are violating any hard and fast</v>

00:48:18.640 --> 00:48:23.040
<v Speaker 1>black and white moral rule by being involved in the defense industry.</v>

00:48:23.040 --> 00:48:26.400
<v Speaker 1>And yes, I think our men should still be involved in these</v>

00:48:26.400 --> 00:48:30.640
<v Speaker 1>industries because we don't want them to be wholly owned by the</v>

00:48:30.640 --> 00:48:34.480
<v Speaker 1>enemy. Maybe you can get into a position at some point, it</v>

00:48:34.480 --> 00:48:37.520
<v Speaker 1>depends on you know, your career path and things like that, but</v>

00:48:37.520 --> 00:48:40.640
<v Speaker 1>you may be able to make decisions that are very important down</v>

00:48:40.640 --> 00:48:42.480
<v Speaker 1>the line.</v>

00:48:42.480 --> 00:48:42.800
<v Speaker 1>And</v>

00:48:43.760 --> 00:48:47.520
<v Speaker 1>if we all just up and left society, right?</v>

00:48:47.520 --> 00:48:53.040
<v Speaker 1>If we just completely abandoned our society because our government is wicked,</v>

00:48:53.040 --> 00:48:55.280
<v Speaker 1>that would not actually make things better.</v>

00:48:55.280 --> 00:48:57.840
<v Speaker 1>It would make them significantly worse.</v>

00:48:57.840 --> 00:49:00.320
<v Speaker 1>And it would make them significantly worse for all of us as</v>

00:49:00.320 --> 00:49:04.160
<v Speaker 1>well, because we'd then all be unemployed and powerless, which is not</v>

00:49:04.160 --> 00:49:09.360
<v Speaker 1>ideal. So as far as exit criteria are concerned, you know, when</v>

00:49:09.360 --> 00:49:10.960
<v Speaker 1>should you leave?</v>

00:49:10.960 --> 00:49:15.680
<v Speaker 1>If they ask you to deny Christ is obviously a pretty obvious</v>

00:49:15.680 --> 00:49:18.160
<v Speaker 1>black and white line, you can't do that.</v>

00:49:18.160 --> 00:49:21.360
<v Speaker 1>If they ask you to worship a false God, you can't do</v>

00:49:21.360 --> 00:49:25.600
<v Speaker 1>that. Anything that is denying the faith, you can't do.</v>

00:49:25.840 --> 00:49:30.240
<v Speaker 1>But if it's just producing weapons of war and you have moral</v>

00:49:30.240 --> 00:49:33.600
<v Speaker 1>qualms about how your government is going to use them, I don't</v>

00:49:33.520 --> 00:49:37.040
<v Speaker 1>think that is sufficient to say that you have to.</v>

00:49:37.040 --> 00:49:41.920
<v Speaker 1>Now, if they ask you to personally deploy these things, that's a</v>

00:49:41.920 --> 00:49:42.960
<v Speaker 1>different matter.</v>

00:49:42.960 --> 00:49:45.840
<v Speaker 1>I have said that I think that soldiers, if they are told</v>

00:49:45.840 --> 00:49:50.000
<v Speaker 1>that they have to go be boots on the ground in Iran,</v>

00:49:50.000 --> 00:49:53.200
<v Speaker 1>they should say that they have a religious objection.</v>

00:49:53.200 --> 00:49:54.560
<v Speaker 1>They have a moral objection.</v>

00:49:54.560 --> 00:49:56.400
<v Speaker 1>They're a conscientious objector.</v>

00:49:56.400 --> 00:49:58.800
<v Speaker 1>Whatever it happens to be that you need to say to get</v>

00:49:58.800 --> 00:50:00.480
<v Speaker 1>out of it, I think you should.</v>

00:50:00.480 --> 00:50:03.360
<v Speaker 1>I don't you I do not think that you should participate in</v>

00:50:03.360 --> 00:50:04.560
<v Speaker 1>that way.</v>

00:50:04.560 --> 00:50:07.280
<v Speaker 1>But there's a difference here.</v>

00:50:07.280 --> 00:50:10.800
<v Speaker 1>It's not just because there's a level of attenuation, certainly that's part</v>

00:50:10.800 --> 00:50:11.680
<v Speaker 1>of it.</v>

00:50:11.680 --> 00:50:18.560
<v Speaker 1>But there is a difference in arming your nation for war generally</v>

00:50:18.960 --> 00:50:26.000
<v Speaker 1>and specifically doing X that you know to be immoral.</v>

00:50:26.000 --> 00:50:28.560
<v Speaker 1>I can't give you a hard and fast rule, I can't give</v>

00:50:28.560 --> 00:50:30.880
<v Speaker 1>you black and white rule because it's a matter of wisdom and</v>

00:50:30.880 --> 00:50:34.400
<v Speaker 1>it's a matter of conscience as you correctly recognize.</v>

00:50:34.400 --> 00:50:37.120
<v Speaker 1>But in this case, I don't think what you're doing is wrong,</v>

00:50:37.120 --> 00:50:39.760
<v Speaker 1>and I think it's good that we have men in these fields</v>

00:50:39.760 --> 00:50:44.240
<v Speaker 1>doing these things who are Christian men who have these concerns.</v>

00:50:44.240 --> 00:50:45.920
<v Speaker 1>Because what's the alternative?</v>

00:50:45.920 --> 00:50:50.080
<v Speaker 1>Men who have no concerns, who have no conscience doing whatever they</v>

00:50:50.080 --> 00:51:00.640
<v Speaker 1>please, probably to us.</v>

00:51:03.840 --> 00:51:11.360
<v Speaker 1>The next question, question number 10.</v>

00:51:11.360 --> 00:51:14.880
<v Speaker 1>What do you believe is the role of small business owners in</v>

00:51:14.880 --> 00:51:17.040
<v Speaker 1>the current situation?</v>

00:51:17.680 --> 00:51:22.240
<v Speaker 1>Only hire white male Christians, as much as practical seems obvious.</v>

00:51:22.240 --> 00:51:27.440
<v Speaker 1>What is the historical understanding of our duties?</v>

00:51:27.440 --> 00:51:31.040
<v Speaker 1>So obviously I can't tell you to do anything illegal.</v>

00:51:31.200 --> 00:51:33.200
<v Speaker 1>I mean I could, but I'm not going to tell you to</v>

00:51:33.200 --> 00:51:36.160
<v Speaker 1>do anything illegal, and this is not legal advice.</v>

00:51:36.160 --> 00:51:36.480
<v Speaker 1>But</v>

00:51:38.080 --> 00:51:38.400
<v Speaker 1>The</v>

00:51:39.360 --> 00:51:44.480
<v Speaker 1>duty with regard to being a Christian is to provide for those</v>

00:51:44.480 --> 00:51:46.400
<v Speaker 1>closest to you first.</v>

00:51:46.400 --> 00:51:52.240
<v Speaker 1>Because it's those same as always, it's the concentric circles radiating outward,</v>

00:51:52.240 --> 00:51:54.160
<v Speaker 1>decreasing duty as you go.</v>

00:51:54.160 --> 00:51:57.760
<v Speaker 1>Inversely, increasing duty as you get closer.</v>

00:51:57.760 --> 00:52:01.200
<v Speaker 1>We recognize this, the Ten Commandments are hierarchical, so you have a</v>

00:52:01.600 --> 00:52:05.680
<v Speaker 1>greater duty to your parents than you have to your neighbor.</v>

00:52:05.680 --> 00:52:07.920
<v Speaker 1>You have a greater duty to your neighbor than you have to</v>

00:52:07.920 --> 00:52:08.800
<v Speaker 1>the stranger.</v>

00:52:08.800 --> 00:52:12.320
<v Speaker 1>You have a greater duty to the stranger who is sojourning in</v>

00:52:12.320 --> 00:52:14.480
<v Speaker 1>your country than you do to someone on the other side of</v>

00:52:14.480 --> 00:52:15.120
<v Speaker 1>the world.</v>

00:52:15.120 --> 00:52:19.200
<v Speaker 1>You have a greater duty to the person visiting your country than</v>

00:52:19.200 --> 00:52:22.000
<v Speaker 1>a hostile alien, right?</v>

00:52:22.000 --> 00:52:26.800
<v Speaker 1>There are there's a hierarchy, or the concentric circles, whichever way you</v>

00:52:26.800 --> 00:52:29.280
<v Speaker 1>want to visualize that.</v>

00:52:29.280 --> 00:52:36.080
<v Speaker 1>So So, if you make it your explicit policy to hire only</v>

00:52:36.080 --> 00:52:41.040
<v Speaker 1>white male Christians, you will be sued and you will almost certainly</v>

00:52:41.040 --> 00:52:43.440
<v Speaker 1>lose. So don't do that.</v>

00:52:43.600 --> 00:52:45.040
<v Speaker 1>That would be unwise.</v>

00:52:45.040 --> 00:52:46.720
<v Speaker 1>Do not be unwise.</v>

00:52:46.720 --> 00:52:50.240
<v Speaker 1>I guess the basic recommendation there is don't break the law, right?</v>

00:52:50.240 --> 00:52:53.600
<v Speaker 1>Which that I can give is legal advice, but it's useless legal</v>

00:52:53.600 --> 00:53:00.880
<v Speaker 1>advice. But what can you do that is permissible under the</v>

00:53:00.880 --> 00:53:05.120
<v Speaker 1>law and is very unlikely to get you in trouble?</v>

00:53:05.120 --> 00:53:08.160
<v Speaker 1>And part of this depends on right the business.</v>

00:53:08.160 --> 00:53:11.280
<v Speaker 1>For a small business, you're less likely to be harassed by the</v>

00:53:11.280 --> 00:53:13.120
<v Speaker 1>government than a larger business.</v>

00:53:13.120 --> 00:53:17.520
<v Speaker 1>But a larger business has a compliance department.</v>

00:53:17.520 --> 00:53:20.560
<v Speaker 1>Hire those who are your neighbors.</v>

00:53:20.560 --> 00:53:20.960
<v Speaker 1>Hire</v>

00:53:21.920 --> 00:53:25.040
<v Speaker 1>the friend of a friend or the nephew of a friend of</v>

00:53:25.040 --> 00:53:26.240
<v Speaker 1>a friend.</v>

00:53:26.240 --> 00:53:28.400
<v Speaker 1>The good version of nepotism.</v>

00:53:28.400 --> 00:53:31.840
<v Speaker 1>Which nepotism comes from nephew, nepos.</v>

00:53:31.840 --> 00:53:32.160
<v Speaker 1>So</v>

00:53:33.280 --> 00:53:39.280
<v Speaker 1>put up your help wanted ads at church, at whatever your local</v>

00:53:39.280 --> 00:53:40.880
<v Speaker 1>club is.</v>

00:53:40.880 --> 00:53:43.680
<v Speaker 1>Put them up in places where you're going to get the response</v>

00:53:43.680 --> 00:53:47.040
<v Speaker 1>from the sort of men you want to hire There's nothing wrong</v>

00:53:47.040 --> 00:53:47.440
<v Speaker 1>with that.</v>

00:53:47.440 --> 00:53:50.000
<v Speaker 1>There's nothing wrong with using word of mouth to hire people.</v>

00:53:50.000 --> 00:53:53.440
<v Speaker 1>There's nothing wrong with hiring your friends or your family.</v>

00:53:53.440 --> 00:53:55.920
<v Speaker 1>Perfectly permissible.</v>

00:53:55.920 --> 00:53:59.840
<v Speaker 1>So don't do the things the law says you cannot do, but</v>

00:53:59.840 --> 00:54:04.960
<v Speaker 1>do the things you're permitted to do to help those God has</v>

00:54:04.960 --> 00:54:09.200
<v Speaker 1>entrusted to your care, because God has entrusted resources to you so</v>

00:54:09.200 --> 00:54:12.640
<v Speaker 1>that you can use them to perform your duties and to aid</v>

00:54:12.640 --> 00:54:16.800
<v Speaker 1>your fellow man, those to whom you owe the highest duty.</v>

00:54:16.800 --> 00:54:22.640
<v Speaker 1>So that's the basics of it, but at another level of it,</v>

00:54:22.640 --> 00:54:26.320
<v Speaker 1>this is an anecdote that many will know from history.</v>

00:54:26.640 --> 00:54:30.000
<v Speaker 1>There was a saint who basically asked, and the story may be</v>

00:54:30.000 --> 00:54:33.360
<v Speaker 1>apocryphal or not, but the point drawn out of it is good.</v>

00:54:33.360 --> 00:54:36.000
<v Speaker 1>There was a saint who prayed to be shown how he could</v>

00:54:36.000 --> 00:54:38.480
<v Speaker 1>be a great Christian and if God would show him a great</v>

00:54:38.480 --> 00:54:42.880
<v Speaker 1>Christian, and he was shown a shoemaker.</v>

00:54:42.880 --> 00:54:46.400
<v Speaker 1>And he wondered how how this shoemaker is a great Christian, how</v>

00:54:46.400 --> 00:54:49.920
<v Speaker 1>can this be the perfect good Christian life?</v>

00:54:49.920 --> 00:54:52.880
<v Speaker 1>The man said a short prayer before he went into work, and</v>

00:54:52.880 --> 00:54:54.880
<v Speaker 1>then he made good shoes.</v>

00:54:54.880 --> 00:54:59.120
<v Speaker 1>He didn't put crosses on the shoes, he didn't emblazen verses from</v>

00:54:59.120 --> 00:55:02.400
<v Speaker 1>scripture into them, he didn't do any of those things, which is</v>

00:55:02.400 --> 00:55:05.200
<v Speaker 1>sort of the kitsch version of people believing, oh this is how</v>

00:55:05.200 --> 00:55:06.080
<v Speaker 1>you're a good Christian.</v>

00:55:06.080 --> 00:55:08.000
<v Speaker 1>No, you make good shoes.</v>

00:55:08.000 --> 00:55:10.320
<v Speaker 1>Your neighbor needs good shoes.</v>

00:55:10.320 --> 00:55:15.520
<v Speaker 1>Your neighbor needs good food, good woodwork, a good desk, whatever it</v>

00:55:15.520 --> 00:55:18.480
<v Speaker 1>happens to be, good glassware for his tea, right?</v>

00:55:18.480 --> 00:55:20.640
<v Speaker 1>These are the things your neighbor needs.</v>

00:55:20.640 --> 00:55:23.840
<v Speaker 1>You serve God by serving your neighbor, and you serve your neighbor</v>

00:55:23.920 --> 00:55:25.360
<v Speaker 1>by doing a good job.</v>

00:55:25.360 --> 00:55:28.480
<v Speaker 1>You do a good job at a fair price.</v>

00:55:28.480 --> 00:55:30.400
<v Speaker 1>That's how you serve as a Christian.</v>

00:55:30.400 --> 00:55:35.120
<v Speaker 1>It's not stamping crosses into everything and loudly declaring, oh, I'm a</v>

00:55:35.120 --> 00:55:37.200
<v Speaker 1>Christian. And that's performance.</v>

00:55:37.200 --> 00:55:39.120
<v Speaker 1>That's not Christianity.</v>

00:55:39.120 --> 00:55:41.520
<v Speaker 1>Christianity is doing your duty.</v>

00:55:41.520 --> 00:55:45.120
<v Speaker 1>Being good at whatever job it is, doing the best that you</v>

00:55:45.120 --> 00:55:47.440
<v Speaker 1>can do for the people around you.</v>

00:55:47.440 --> 00:55:50.000
<v Speaker 1>That's what you should do as a small business owner.</v>

00:55:50.000 --> 00:55:53.440
<v Speaker 1>Give people a good product at a fair price and hire the</v>

00:55:53.440 --> 00:55:57.680
<v Speaker 1>people you can who are the men to whom you owe duties.</v>

00:55:57.680 --> 00:56:02.240
<v Speaker 1>So again, family, friends, members of your church.</v>

00:56:02.240 --> 00:56:03.760
<v Speaker 1>That's what you do.</v>

00:56:03.760 --> 00:56:08.160
<v Speaker 1>It's not a matter of the performative version of Christianity.</v>

00:56:08.160 --> 00:56:10.080
<v Speaker 1>It's the reality instead.</v>

00:56:10.080 --> 00:56:12.640
<v Speaker 1>Because the concrete stuff matters.</v>

00:56:12.640 --> 00:56:17.120
<v Speaker 1>The person who is praying really loudly on the street corner is</v>

00:56:17.120 --> 00:56:20.560
<v Speaker 1>not the one who is helping the man who is homeless and</v>

00:56:20.560 --> 00:56:22.400
<v Speaker 1>naked, right?</v>

00:56:22.400 --> 00:56:25.360
<v Speaker 1>The guy who's homeless and naked would probably rather that you give</v>

00:56:25.360 --> 00:56:26.880
<v Speaker 1>him a coat and a sandwich.</v>

00:56:37.280 --> 00:56:44.240
<v Speaker 1>The next question, question eleven.</v>

00:56:44.240 --> 00:56:49.440
<v Speaker 1>Given microplastics and other things in the modern world seeming to be</v>

00:56:49.440 --> 00:56:53.200
<v Speaker 1>assaulting our hormones and masculinity in new ways.</v>

00:56:53.200 --> 00:56:56.720
<v Speaker 1>Indeed, this has come up a couple times already about microplastics at</v>

00:56:56.720 --> 00:57:01.360
<v Speaker 1>least. Is testosterone replacement therapy permissible for Christian men in our late</v>

00:57:01.360 --> 00:57:02.720
<v Speaker 1>thirties, early forties?</v>

00:57:02.720 --> 00:57:05.680
<v Speaker 1>I don't want to chase the fountain of youth, but do modern</v>

00:57:05.680 --> 00:57:07.520
<v Speaker 1>problems call for modern solutions?</v>

00:57:07.520 --> 00:57:10.000
<v Speaker 1>The good news is the fountain of youth doesn't exist, and if</v>

00:57:10.000 --> 00:57:12.400
<v Speaker 1>it did, it would be called hell.</v>

00:57:12.400 --> 00:57:14.640
<v Speaker 1>So TRT is just fine.</v>

00:57:14.640 --> 00:57:16.080
<v Speaker 1>Nothing wrong with it.</v>

00:57:16.080 --> 00:57:19.600
<v Speaker 1>Perfectly acceptable if you can find a good doctor to make sure</v>

00:57:19.600 --> 00:57:24.240
<v Speaker 1>that you, you know, calibrate things properly, by all means do so.</v>

00:57:24.240 --> 00:57:29.360
<v Speaker 1>That's uh there's nothing wrong with taking measures to safeguard your health,</v>

00:57:29.360 --> 00:57:32.720
<v Speaker 1>which is all testosterone replacement therapy is, right?</v>

00:57:32.720 --> 00:57:38.560
<v Speaker 1>It's not trying to subvert God's plan or God's design, it's accounting</v>

00:57:39.280 --> 00:57:42.080
<v Speaker 1>for the reality of living in a post-fall world.</v>

00:57:42.080 --> 00:57:45.360
<v Speaker 1>It's similar to I was looking to see if I had anything</v>

00:57:45.360 --> 00:57:47.200
<v Speaker 1>on my desk to use an example, but I've got you know</v>

00:57:47.280 --> 00:57:48.160
<v Speaker 1>nicotine here.</v>

00:57:48.160 --> 00:57:51.040
<v Speaker 1>It's not exactly what I wanted.</v>

00:57:51.360 --> 00:57:53.680
<v Speaker 1>It's similar to taking supplements, right?</v>

00:57:53.680 --> 00:57:57.920
<v Speaker 1>If you supplement vitamin D, which you should be doing, because past</v>

00:57:57.920 --> 00:58:02.800
<v Speaker 1>a certain age, you actually stop producing it in sufficient quantities.</v>

00:58:02.800 --> 00:58:05.120
<v Speaker 1>There are those who think, you know, oh, if I get just</v>

00:58:05.120 --> 00:58:08.960
<v Speaker 1>get enough sun, if you're a 40-year-old man and you spend your</v>

00:58:08.960 --> 00:58:11.920
<v Speaker 1>entire day outside naked and manage not to get arrested for public</v>

00:58:11.920 --> 00:58:15.040
<v Speaker 1>indecency, you still will not have enough vitamin D.</v>

00:58:15.040 --> 00:58:18.320
<v Speaker 1>Even if you live somewhere like southern California.</v>

00:58:18.320 --> 00:58:20.400
<v Speaker 1>Because your body just doesn't produce enough.</v>

00:58:20.400 --> 00:58:23.920
<v Speaker 1>So that's something you should be supplementing if you're over I don't</v>

00:58:23.840 --> 00:58:26.640
<v Speaker 1>remember the exact age, but it's somewhere in your mid-thirties.</v>

00:58:26.640 --> 00:58:28.800
<v Speaker 1>You should be supplementing that.</v>

00:58:28.800 --> 00:58:32.400
<v Speaker 1>There's nothing wrong with supplementing testosterone as well, because yes, we have</v>

00:58:32.400 --> 00:58:37.840
<v Speaker 1>environmental factors that are pushing that, trending that downward, and that's not</v>

00:58:37.840 --> 00:58:41.840
<v Speaker 1>good. Because God designed men to have a higher level than modern</v>

00:58:41.840 --> 00:58:42.640
<v Speaker 1>men do.</v>

00:58:42.640 --> 00:58:46.160
<v Speaker 1>So by all means if you can find a doctor who will</v>

00:58:46.160 --> 00:58:49.120
<v Speaker 1>prescribe that for you, I think that's perfectly acceptable.</v>

00:58:49.120 --> 00:58:50.560
<v Speaker 1>It's probably even a good idea.</v>

00:58:50.560 --> 00:58:54.320
<v Speaker 1>It's something that more men probably should be doing.</v>

00:58:54.320 --> 00:58:58.560
<v Speaker 1>Get your levels checked if that's something that your health plan provides</v>

00:58:58.720 --> 00:59:00.640
<v Speaker 1>or you have some way of doing that.</v>

00:59:00.640 --> 00:59:02.160
<v Speaker 1>And just keep that in mind.</v>

00:59:02.160 --> 00:59:05.360
<v Speaker 1>It's similar to how we test other things about our health, right?</v>

00:59:05.360 --> 00:59:10.480
<v Speaker 1>You get an ECG or you occasionally check your heart rate or</v>

00:59:10.480 --> 00:59:12.480
<v Speaker 1>your blood oxygen level.</v>

00:59:12.480 --> 00:59:15.760
<v Speaker 1>These are things that you can test very easily.</v>

00:59:15.760 --> 00:59:18.240
<v Speaker 1>I have, you know, an oxygen meter right here.</v>

00:59:18.240 --> 00:59:20.960
<v Speaker 1>This thing costs probably ten dollars.</v>

00:59:20.960 --> 00:59:25.760
<v Speaker 1>They're easy things you can do to keep track of your health</v>

00:59:26.080 --> 00:59:28.800
<v Speaker 1>and detect issues before they arise.</v>

00:59:28.800 --> 00:59:32.400
<v Speaker 1>And checking your testosterone level is certainly one of them.</v>

00:59:32.400 --> 00:59:36.160
<v Speaker 1>It will probably help your marriage if you make sure that your</v>

00:59:36.160 --> 00:59:38.960
<v Speaker 1>level is where it should be, or at least close to where</v>

00:59:38.960 --> 00:59:42.880
<v Speaker 1>it should be, instead of way below where it should be.</v>

00:59:42.880 --> 00:59:46.800
<v Speaker 1>But yes, the basic answer is it's perfectly fine, it's moral to</v>

00:59:46.800 --> 00:59:51.040
<v Speaker 1>do, and likely also something that is, as a matter of wisdom,</v>

00:59:51.040 --> 00:59:56.480
<v Speaker 1>wise to do.</v>

00:59:56.960 --> 01:00:01.280
<v Speaker 1>The next question is sort of a theological question.</v>

01:00:01.280 --> 01:00:03.600
<v Speaker 1>The other one was as well, but this one's sort of I</v>

01:00:03.600 --> 01:00:07.200
<v Speaker 1>guess more core theological question, as it were.</v>

01:00:07.200 --> 01:00:10.880
<v Speaker 1>Do you have an opinion or any knowledge of the old apostolic</v>

01:00:10.880 --> 01:00:13.680
<v Speaker 1>Lutherans? So these are</v>

01:00:14.640 --> 01:00:16.560
<v Speaker 1>one of the subgroups of</v>

01:00:18.640 --> 01:00:23.360
<v Speaker 1>one of the revivalistic Pietistic Lutheran groups.</v>

01:00:23.360 --> 01:00:24.160
<v Speaker 1>They are</v>

01:00:25.280 --> 01:00:27.120
<v Speaker 1>separated out from</v>

01:00:28.960 --> 01:00:32.240
<v Speaker 1>The Swedish Lutherans, it was the Swedish Lutherans, right.</v>

01:00:32.400 --> 01:00:38.400
<v Speaker 1>One of the pastors went up there into the Samilands, which is</v>

01:00:38.400 --> 01:00:44.160
<v Speaker 1>sort of their version of obviously not Amerindians, but their version of</v>

01:00:44.160 --> 01:00:46.720
<v Speaker 1>natives living out in the middle of nowhere.</v>

01:00:46.720 --> 01:00:51.760
<v Speaker 1>So he went up there to try to convert them to Christianity</v>

01:00:51.840 --> 01:00:53.600
<v Speaker 1>because they converted pretty late.</v>

01:00:54.000 --> 01:00:56.640
<v Speaker 1>And he was a Lutheran pastor.</v>

01:00:56.640 --> 01:00:59.760
<v Speaker 1>Lystadius. I that's the gentleman's name.</v>

01:00:59.760 --> 01:01:01.920
<v Speaker 1>So these are Lystadians.</v>

01:01:01.920 --> 01:01:04.080
<v Speaker 1>Don't critique me on pronouncing Swedish.</v>

01:01:04.080 --> 01:01:05.840
<v Speaker 1>I have no idea how to pronounce Swedish.</v>

01:01:05.840 --> 01:01:09.840
<v Speaker 1>So if I said it wrong, then I apologize to the Swedish,</v>

01:01:09.840 --> 01:01:13.200
<v Speaker 1>but that's that's only fair because every time I run across something</v>

01:01:13.200 --> 01:01:16.080
<v Speaker 1>on social media that's Swedish, I get a few words in and</v>

01:01:16.080 --> 01:01:18.400
<v Speaker 1>I think it's German, then I hit the little symbol on the</v>

01:01:18.400 --> 01:01:20.160
<v Speaker 1>A and realize it's Swedish.</v>

01:01:20.160 --> 01:01:23.360
<v Speaker 1>But at any rate, he was trying to convert these people, same</v>

01:01:23.360 --> 01:01:27.920
<v Speaker 1>sort of problem we have with the Amerindians, wild heavy drinkers, alcoholism</v>

01:01:27.920 --> 01:01:29.520
<v Speaker 1>was rampant.</v>

01:01:29.520 --> 01:01:37.280
<v Speaker 1>So he went overboard because for instance he became a teetotaler almost</v>

01:01:37.520 --> 01:01:39.520
<v Speaker 1>because he still used wine in the sacrament.</v>

01:01:39.520 --> 01:01:43.120
<v Speaker 1>Thankfully he didn't mess that one up, but he otherwise was a</v>

01:01:43.120 --> 01:01:47.920
<v Speaker 1>teetotaler with regard to alcohol consumption, partly because he was working with</v>

01:01:47.920 --> 01:01:51.360
<v Speaker 1>the Sammy, but it's the same sort of thing that you see</v>

01:01:51.360 --> 01:01:54.640
<v Speaker 1>in a lot of these movements where they're going to say, oh</v>

01:01:54.720 --> 01:01:56.560
<v Speaker 1>well all dancing is bad.</v>

01:01:56.560 --> 01:01:59.440
<v Speaker 1>Right? You should never go to the movies.</v>

01:01:59.440 --> 01:02:01.840
<v Speaker 1>You shouldn't smoke nicotine's all bad.</v>

01:02:01.840 --> 01:02:03.120
<v Speaker 1>You should never drink.</v>

01:02:03.120 --> 01:02:06.320
<v Speaker 1>Basically, all worldly pleasure is evil and bad, and you just you</v>

01:02:06.320 --> 01:02:07.920
<v Speaker 1>know, it's horrible.</v>

01:02:07.920 --> 01:02:10.080
<v Speaker 1>That's not Christian.</v>

01:02:10.080 --> 01:02:13.920
<v Speaker 1>Because God created the worldly pleasures as well.</v>

01:02:13.920 --> 01:02:19.120
<v Speaker 1>You should not abuse them, but using them in the right way,</v>

01:02:19.120 --> 01:02:21.120
<v Speaker 1>in the way God intended, is perfectly fine.</v>

01:02:21.120 --> 01:02:23.600
<v Speaker 1>Like I said, I have some nicotine sitting here on my desk.</v>

01:02:23.600 --> 01:02:27.840
<v Speaker 1>I don't use it a lot, certainly, but there's nothing wrong with</v>

01:02:28.080 --> 01:02:33.440
<v Speaker 1>consuming nicotine or alcohol in reasonable amounts.</v>

01:02:33.440 --> 01:02:36.400
<v Speaker 1>It's not to be done in excess, because that would of course</v>

01:02:36.400 --> 01:02:40.320
<v Speaker 1>be in the case of alcohol, alcoholism, which is not good.</v>

01:02:40.320 --> 01:02:42.560
<v Speaker 1>You don't want to be a drunk.</v>

01:02:42.560 --> 01:02:45.680
<v Speaker 1>But there's nothing morally impermissible about drinking.</v>

01:02:45.680 --> 01:02:49.440
<v Speaker 1>In fact, scripture praises alcohol in a number of places One of</v>

01:02:49.440 --> 01:02:54.480
<v Speaker 1>the ways you could worship God in Old Testament Israel was liquor.</v>

01:02:54.480 --> 01:02:58.400
<v Speaker 1>Not as strong as our liquor, Sakara, is what they called it,</v>

01:02:58.400 --> 01:03:00.640
<v Speaker 1>but still liquor.</v>

01:03:00.640 --> 01:03:03.360
<v Speaker 1>So I don't like these groups.</v>

01:03:03.360 --> 01:03:05.760
<v Speaker 1>They go overboard with these things.</v>

01:03:05.760 --> 01:03:09.120
<v Speaker 1>But at the same time, they're not that relevant because I think</v>

01:03:09.120 --> 01:03:12.880
<v Speaker 1>there's only about 25,000 of them in the United States.</v>

01:03:12.880 --> 01:03:15.040
<v Speaker 1>And like a hundred and eighty thousand of them</v>

01:03:16.160 --> 01:03:23.440
<v Speaker 1>worldwide. So I guess if you are Swedish, Norwegian, Finnish,</v>

01:03:23.440 --> 01:03:27.440
<v Speaker 1>or Sami, then they're going to be more relevant to you because</v>

01:03:27.440 --> 01:03:30.560
<v Speaker 1>they're going to be be, if not in your area where you</v>

01:03:30.560 --> 01:03:35.760
<v Speaker 1>live, then at least relevant back in your lineage to your people.</v>

01:03:35.760 --> 01:03:39.360
<v Speaker 1>Maybe you don't have those people in your direct lineage, but you</v>

01:03:39.360 --> 01:03:42.880
<v Speaker 1>live somewhere they used to be, or maybe still are.</v>

01:03:43.120 --> 01:03:46.160
<v Speaker 1>If you're not descended from those groups or living in those areas,</v>

01:03:46.160 --> 01:03:49.440
<v Speaker 1>then they're just completely irrelevant to you, go join an actual Lutheran</v>

01:03:49.440 --> 01:03:54.880
<v Speaker 1>church. Insofar as joining one of their churches is concerned, I would</v>

01:03:54.880 --> 01:03:57.760
<v Speaker 1>say just join an actual Lutheran church.</v>

01:03:57.760 --> 01:04:01.600
<v Speaker 1>Maybe there are good congregations, I don't personally know.</v>

01:04:01.600 --> 01:04:04.720
<v Speaker 1>But I do know that many of them are sort of in</v>

01:04:04.720 --> 01:04:08.960
<v Speaker 1>the habit of doing the mutual excommunication sort of thing where you'll</v>

01:04:08.960 --> 01:04:12.640
<v Speaker 1>have the old apostolic Lutherans and then you have</v>

01:04:14.000 --> 01:04:15.600
<v Speaker 1>I can't remember the name of the other group.</v>

01:04:15.600 --> 01:04:18.640
<v Speaker 1>They're there are three main groups of the Lystadians.</v>

01:04:18.640 --> 01:04:21.360
<v Speaker 1>I can't remember the the other ones, but two of them have</v>

01:04:21.360 --> 01:04:24.480
<v Speaker 1>mutually excommunicated each other basically and said, No, you're going to hell,</v>

01:04:24.480 --> 01:04:26.240
<v Speaker 1>no, you're going to hell.</v>

01:04:26.240 --> 01:04:28.240
<v Speaker 1>That's not productive or helpful.</v>

01:04:28.240 --> 01:04:29.600
<v Speaker 1>That's just nonsense.</v>

01:04:29.600 --> 01:04:34.080
<v Speaker 1>And it's also false theology because they're denying the reality of the</v>

01:04:34.080 --> 01:04:40.000
<v Speaker 1>invisible church, the church universal, which includes believers from if not every,</v>

01:04:40.000 --> 01:04:42.000
<v Speaker 1>at least most denominations.</v>

01:04:42.000 --> 01:04:42.960
<v Speaker 1>I'm Lutheran.</v>

01:04:42.960 --> 01:04:46.000
<v Speaker 1>I'm have significant disagreements with Rome.</v>

01:04:46.000 --> 01:04:49.280
<v Speaker 1>I believe there are Christians in Roman Catholic churches.</v>

01:04:49.280 --> 01:04:51.920
<v Speaker 1>I believe there are many Christians in Baptist churches.</v>

01:04:51.920 --> 01:04:54.320
<v Speaker 1>I have significant disagreements with them.</v>

01:04:54.320 --> 01:04:57.840
<v Speaker 1>If you deny the reality of the invisible church, you're just making</v>

01:04:57.840 --> 01:05:03.360
<v Speaker 1>a complete nonsense claim about about no no no this one corporate</v>

01:05:03.520 --> 01:05:11.280
<v Speaker 1>structure, physical entity, legal fiction thing in the world is Christ Church.</v>

01:05:11.280 --> 01:05:12.800
<v Speaker 1>That's absurd.</v>

01:05:12.800 --> 01:05:17.680
<v Speaker 1>And it's bad theology., if you just look at scripture, Adam's the</v>

01:05:17.680 --> 01:05:19.200
<v Speaker 1>first Christian.</v>

01:05:19.200 --> 01:05:23.600
<v Speaker 1>Of which church was Adam a member?</v>

01:05:23.600 --> 01:05:26.880
<v Speaker 1>Was Adam ever a member of the Roman Catholic Church?</v>

01:05:26.880 --> 01:05:29.680
<v Speaker 1>Was Adam ever member of the Lutheran Church?</v>

01:05:29.680 --> 01:05:33.200
<v Speaker 1>The answer is no, because he was member of the Church Universal.</v>

01:05:33.200 --> 01:05:39.040
<v Speaker 1>So claims about any specific group being the church on earth are</v>

01:05:39.040 --> 01:05:43.120
<v Speaker 1>almost always per se incorrect Can you say that you have the</v>

01:05:43.120 --> 01:05:44.560
<v Speaker 1>best theology?</v>

01:05:44.560 --> 01:05:45.360
<v Speaker 1>Of course.</v>

01:05:45.360 --> 01:05:47.520
<v Speaker 1>And you should believe that if you're a member of that church.</v>

01:05:47.520 --> 01:05:49.760
<v Speaker 1>That should be one of the reasons you're a member.</v>

01:05:49.760 --> 01:05:53.840
<v Speaker 1>But does that make you the church and no one outside of</v>

01:05:53.840 --> 01:05:55.280
<v Speaker 1>your body can be saved?</v>

01:05:55.280 --> 01:05:56.400
<v Speaker 1>Of course not.</v>

01:05:56.400 --> 01:05:59.680
<v Speaker 1>Because the only church that matters is Christ's Church.</v>

01:05:59.680 --> 01:06:02.240
<v Speaker 1>And it is only his church, and that is the church that</v>

01:06:02.240 --> 01:06:05.600
<v Speaker 1>is constituted from all believers.</v>

01:06:05.600 --> 01:06:09.280
<v Speaker 1>So if you happen to have one of these congregations near you</v>

01:06:09.360 --> 01:06:14.080
<v Speaker 1>and they're a good one, because there are different branches of Lystadion,</v>

01:06:14.080 --> 01:06:17.840
<v Speaker 1>you mentioned this one in particular, but there are different ones.</v>

01:06:18.000 --> 01:06:22.160
<v Speaker 1>If they're good, they're not teaching anything weird, so they're not emphasizing</v>

01:06:22.160 --> 01:06:25.280
<v Speaker 1>some of these weird bits of their theology.</v>

01:06:25.280 --> 01:06:28.000
<v Speaker 1>I don't have significant issues with them.</v>

01:06:28.000 --> 01:06:32.240
<v Speaker 1>I don't believe that they actually hold to the Augsburg Confession, which</v>

01:06:32.800 --> 01:06:35.520
<v Speaker 1>is a meaningful point for Lutherans, right?</v>

01:06:35.520 --> 01:06:37.360
<v Speaker 1>That is our confession.</v>

01:06:37.360 --> 01:06:38.960
<v Speaker 1>They say that they hold to it.</v>

01:06:38.960 --> 01:06:43.360
<v Speaker 1>This is sort of, I guess, inside baseball for Lutherans, but they</v>

01:06:43.360 --> 01:06:45.680
<v Speaker 1>hold to the Augsburg Confession.</v>

01:06:45.680 --> 01:06:49.360
<v Speaker 1>I believe they also say they hold to Luther's Catechisms and maybe</v>

01:06:49.360 --> 01:06:52.320
<v Speaker 1>the small cult articles, but I don't think they hold to the</v>

01:06:52.320 --> 01:06:55.760
<v Speaker 1>book the formula of Concord, the last two documents in the book</v>

01:06:55.760 --> 01:06:56.880
<v Speaker 1>of Concord.</v>

01:06:56.880 --> 01:07:01.120
<v Speaker 1>That's a little more common among Scandinavian Lutherans.</v>

01:07:01.120 --> 01:07:02.560
<v Speaker 1>Are they Lutheran or not?</v>

01:07:02.560 --> 01:07:04.560
<v Speaker 1>We could have that argument.</v>

01:07:04.560 --> 01:07:09.360
<v Speaker 1>But I think the problem with Lystadians is that they actually violate</v>

01:07:09.360 --> 01:07:16.080
<v Speaker 1>one of the articles of of just the Augsburg Confession because Article</v>

01:07:16.080 --> 01:07:23.680
<v Speaker 1>fourteen is about who should or should not publicly in the congregation</v>

01:07:23.920 --> 01:07:27.360
<v Speaker 1>administer the sacraments and teach and preach.</v>

01:07:27.360 --> 01:07:30.160
<v Speaker 1>And we believe it is only those who have a rightly ordered</v>

01:07:30.160 --> 01:07:34.800
<v Speaker 1>call. And incidentally, this article, translate it from the German with an</v>

01:07:34.800 --> 01:07:37.280
<v Speaker 1>AI, do not use the English translations.</v>

01:07:37.280 --> 01:07:41.120
<v Speaker 1>They're really bad, which is unfortunate because it's really simple German.</v>

01:07:41.120 --> 01:07:43.520
<v Speaker 1>They just botch it totally.</v>

01:07:43.520 --> 01:07:43.840
<v Speaker 1>But</v>

01:07:44.880 --> 01:07:51.280
<v Speaker 1>the Lystadians actually use lay ministers to for instance absolve people of</v>

01:07:51.280 --> 01:07:54.720
<v Speaker 1>sin in their services.</v>

01:07:54.720 --> 01:07:59.200
<v Speaker 1>They're also kind of non-liturgical, so I have major problems with them,</v>

01:07:59.200 --> 01:08:01.920
<v Speaker 1>but I could say that about the Baptists and many others as</v>

01:08:01.920 --> 01:08:06.400
<v Speaker 1>well. So again, if you have a good congregation near you, then</v>

01:08:06.400 --> 01:08:08.880
<v Speaker 1>maybe it's worth considering.</v>

01:08:08.880 --> 01:08:11.040
<v Speaker 1>It would not be my top choice.</v>

01:08:11.040 --> 01:08:13.360
<v Speaker 1>It probably wouldn't be my top five.</v>

01:08:13.360 --> 01:08:16.080
<v Speaker 1>But But I don't know where you are, and I don't know</v>

01:08:16.080 --> 01:08:18.560
<v Speaker 1>what churches you have around you, and I don't know if you</v>

01:08:18.560 --> 01:08:21.680
<v Speaker 1>happen to have maybe there's a really good one.</v>

01:08:21.680 --> 01:08:26.080
<v Speaker 1>But that's sort of the the general overview of the Lystadians and</v>

01:08:26.400 --> 01:08:30.320
<v Speaker 1>this particular group, the old apostolic Lutherans, I believe they are the</v>

01:08:30.320 --> 01:08:33.120
<v Speaker 1>first of the three, and they claim to be they're one of</v>

01:08:33.120 --> 01:08:35.760
<v Speaker 1>the ones that claim to be the only one, and so they're</v>

01:08:35.680 --> 01:08:39.280
<v Speaker 1>going to say you can't join another one because they're heretics and</v>

01:08:41.600 --> 01:08:44.080
<v Speaker 1>But they're probably not relevant to you because there are so few</v>

01:08:44.080 --> 01:08:47.840
<v Speaker 1>of them.</v>

01:08:47.920 --> 01:08:51.520
<v Speaker 1>Sort of a little bit of inside baseball for Lutheran and Lutheran</v>

01:08:51.520 --> 01:08:52.400
<v Speaker 1>adjacent groups, but</v>

01:08:53.680 --> 01:08:56.800
<v Speaker 1>useful for some men.</v>

01:08:56.800 --> 01:08:59.360
<v Speaker 1>The next question, question 13.</v>

01:08:59.360 --> 01:09:01.920
<v Speaker 1>I think I will also try to get to some of the</v>

01:09:01.920 --> 01:09:04.240
<v Speaker 1>questions from the chat.</v>

01:09:04.240 --> 01:09:05.920
<v Speaker 1>I see someone brought up gambling.</v>

01:09:05.920 --> 01:09:08.960
<v Speaker 1>I've commented on gambling before, I'll just answer that one quickly before</v>

01:09:08.960 --> 01:09:12.080
<v Speaker 1>I get to question thirteen proper, so this is I guess a</v>

01:09:12.080 --> 01:09:14.880
<v Speaker 1>little bonus question.</v>

01:09:14.880 --> 01:09:21.360
<v Speaker 1>Gambling is not absolutely, categorically, morally impermissible, but it should not be</v>

01:09:21.360 --> 01:09:24.400
<v Speaker 1>something that we encourage as a society, not be something that we</v>

01:09:24.400 --> 01:09:26.480
<v Speaker 1>engage in an organized fashion.</v>

01:09:26.480 --> 01:09:29.680
<v Speaker 1>So I would ban casinos and things like that.</v>

01:09:29.680 --> 01:09:32.480
<v Speaker 1>But if you want to play a ten dollar poker game with</v>

01:09:32.480 --> 01:09:36.160
<v Speaker 1>your friends or whatever the equivalent is for you in your income</v>

01:09:36.160 --> 01:09:41.120
<v Speaker 1>bracket, ten dollars on Friday night, I have no moral objection to</v>

01:09:41.120 --> 01:09:42.320
<v Speaker 1>that whatsoever.</v>

01:09:42.320 --> 01:09:45.200
<v Speaker 1>I don't see any way you could possibly object to that.</v>

01:09:46.240 --> 01:09:48.800
<v Speaker 1>You know, it's it's a within reason sort of thing.</v>

01:09:48.800 --> 01:09:52.320
<v Speaker 1>Don't gamble money that you can't lose.</v>

01:09:52.320 --> 01:09:57.040
<v Speaker 1>And don't gamble huge amounts, don't make it, you know, your life</v>

01:09:57.360 --> 01:10:02.400
<v Speaker 1>or your entire personality, it's fine as a hobby, basically, or just</v>

01:10:02.400 --> 01:10:07.680
<v Speaker 1>an activity that you do with friends on the weekend.</v>

01:10:07.680 --> 01:10:09.040
<v Speaker 1>Question 13.</v>

01:10:09.040 --> 01:10:12.720
<v Speaker 1>I know this has been covered extensively throughout the SC catalog and</v>

01:10:12.720 --> 01:10:16.400
<v Speaker 1>your Twitter account, but I find myself struggling to come up with</v>

01:10:16.400 --> 01:10:20.160
<v Speaker 1>a concise rebuttal to the claim that Jesus was a Jew.</v>

01:10:20.160 --> 01:10:23.520
<v Speaker 1>The best I can muster is Jesus was a Judean, obviously, but</v>

01:10:23.520 --> 01:10:27.120
<v Speaker 1>modern But modern Jews have almost nothing in common with them other</v>

01:10:27.120 --> 01:10:29.840
<v Speaker 1>than their satanic and murderous intentions.</v>

01:10:29.840 --> 01:10:34.240
<v Speaker 1>Assuming all the baggage that comes along with someone that makes that</v>

01:10:34.240 --> 01:10:37.680
<v Speaker 1>statement, how would you respond to that claim in a way that</v>

01:10:37.680 --> 01:10:38.480
<v Speaker 1>makes sense to them</v>

01:10:41.280 --> 01:10:42.880
<v Speaker 1>The issue with</v>

01:10:43.840 --> 01:10:46.640
<v Speaker 1>the Jesus is a Jew thing, right?</v>

01:10:46.880 --> 01:10:50.400
<v Speaker 1>First off, the people who say it often give away the game</v>

01:10:50.400 --> 01:10:53.120
<v Speaker 1>by saying Jesus was a Jew.</v>

01:10:53.120 --> 01:10:57.840
<v Speaker 1>And that use of the past tense is not determinative, right?</v>

01:10:57.840 --> 01:11:01.440
<v Speaker 1>It doesn't always mean something, but it kind of implies something about</v>

01:11:01.840 --> 01:11:03.760
<v Speaker 1>the beliefs of the person advancing it.</v>

01:11:03.760 --> 01:11:05.680
<v Speaker 1>You're probably not dealing with a Christian, right?</v>

01:11:05.680 --> 01:11:08.160
<v Speaker 1>You're probably not even dealing with someone who is open to the</v>

01:11:08.160 --> 01:11:09.680
<v Speaker 1>idea of Christianity.</v>

01:11:09.680 --> 01:11:13.520
<v Speaker 1>You're probably dealing with someone who is hostile to Christianity.</v>

01:11:13.520 --> 01:11:18.720
<v Speaker 1>And my general approach, if someone pops into my replies at this</v>

01:11:18.720 --> 01:11:22.480
<v Speaker 1>point and just comments, well, Jesus was a Jew, or Jesus something</v>

01:11:22.480 --> 01:11:26.400
<v Speaker 1>on those lines, it's almost always just that verbatim, I just block</v>

01:11:26.400 --> 01:11:28.880
<v Speaker 1>them. I'm not going to get anywhere with that person.</v>

01:11:28.880 --> 01:11:33.040
<v Speaker 1>The person is obviously just trying to sow discord and dissent and</v>

01:11:33.040 --> 01:11:34.320
<v Speaker 1>cause problems.</v>

01:11:34.320 --> 01:11:37.120
<v Speaker 1>And it's a waste of everyone's time and I'm not going to</v>

01:11:37.120 --> 01:11:38.560
<v Speaker 1>engage in it.</v>

01:11:38.560 --> 01:11:38.880
<v Speaker 1>So</v>

01:11:41.120 --> 01:11:45.600
<v Speaker 1>if it is someone who is not that, if you happen to</v>

01:11:45.600 --> 01:11:49.680
<v Speaker 1>know this person to some extent, this is someone who has a</v>

01:11:49.680 --> 01:11:53.840
<v Speaker 1>legitimate concern, someone who has an actual curiosity, someone who actually will</v>

01:11:53.840 --> 01:11:55.920
<v Speaker 1>listen to what you are saying.</v>

01:11:56.400 --> 01:12:01.920
<v Speaker 1>Then you can actually probably get somewhere by pointing out just the</v>

01:12:01.920 --> 01:12:05.600
<v Speaker 1>reality. You can, of course, point them to the episode, which is</v>

01:12:05.600 --> 01:12:10.160
<v Speaker 1>the fuller treatment of it, but I think the best starting point</v>

01:12:10.400 --> 01:12:15.200
<v Speaker 1>Starting point is use an analogy, right?</v>

01:12:15.520 --> 01:12:19.520
<v Speaker 1>Use something on which you and that person agree.</v>

01:12:19.520 --> 01:12:21.520
<v Speaker 1>And it's going to depend on your context.</v>

01:12:21.520 --> 01:12:26.720
<v Speaker 1>If I'm talking to an American audience, right, I could say something</v>

01:12:26.720 --> 01:12:29.680
<v Speaker 1>about, you know, the founding fathers and were they American?</v>

01:12:29.680 --> 01:12:34.080
<v Speaker 1>Right? Was George Washington an American?</v>

01:12:34.800 --> 01:12:37.440
<v Speaker 1>That rather depends on what I mean by a lot of different</v>

01:12:37.440 --> 01:12:38.960
<v Speaker 1>terms, doesn't it?</v>

01:12:38.960 --> 01:12:40.720
<v Speaker 1>At what point in his life?</v>

01:12:40.720 --> 01:12:43.920
<v Speaker 1>Because he was British, then he became American.</v>

01:12:43.920 --> 01:12:46.720
<v Speaker 1>Was he American according to citizenship?</v>

01:12:46.720 --> 01:12:52.000
<v Speaker 1>Well, after America became a thing, was he American according to blood</v>

01:12:52.000 --> 01:12:53.200
<v Speaker 1>and birth?</v>

01:12:53.200 --> 01:12:56.080
<v Speaker 1>Yes, but also British.</v>

01:12:56.080 --> 01:13:00.000
<v Speaker 1>And so you can see how it depends on what we mean</v>

01:13:00.000 --> 01:13:01.360
<v Speaker 1>by the term.</v>

01:13:01.360 --> 01:13:03.840
<v Speaker 1>You can do the same thing with languages, right?</v>

01:13:03.840 --> 01:13:07.600
<v Speaker 1>If I say I speak English, is that the same thing as</v>

01:13:07.600 --> 01:13:13.040
<v Speaker 1>saying that Chauser speaks English, spoke English.</v>

01:13:13.040 --> 01:13:14.960
<v Speaker 1>Yes and no.</v>

01:13:14.960 --> 01:13:18.960
<v Speaker 1>He spoke middle English as a different thing.</v>

01:13:18.960 --> 01:13:22.880
<v Speaker 1>Still English, so it depends what you mean by the term.</v>

01:13:22.880 --> 01:13:26.160
<v Speaker 1>And you you're basically trying to point out to the person just</v>

01:13:26.160 --> 01:13:29.760
<v Speaker 1>because we're using a word doesn't mean that we're using it in</v>

01:13:29.760 --> 01:13:33.120
<v Speaker 1>the exact same sense and doesn't mean that it has only one</v>

01:13:33.120 --> 01:13:36.160
<v Speaker 1>sense. So you have to define your terms.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Anyone who has any familiarity with debate of any kind, discussion, academic</v>

01:13:41.360 --> 01:13:45.120
<v Speaker 1>discourse, knows that one of the most important things is defining your</v>

01:13:45.120 --> 01:13:49.920
<v Speaker 1>terms. Because if you don't define your terms, you're going to have</v>

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<v Speaker 1>a real problem.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>You could give a concrete example, right?</v>

01:13:54.160 --> 01:13:59.840
<v Speaker 1>Let's say for instance you are meeting someone for dinner, right?</v>

01:13:59.840 --> 01:14:05.440
<v Speaker 1>And you say, We'll go to your favorite Italian restaurant, and you</v>

01:14:05.440 --> 01:14:10.720
<v Speaker 1>think his favorite Italian restaurant is restaurant A.</v>

01:14:10.720 --> 01:14:14.480
<v Speaker 1>But he in his own head knows, oh, it's restaurant B, I'll</v>

01:14:14.480 --> 01:14:15.280
<v Speaker 1>meet you.</v>

01:14:15.280 --> 01:14:18.080
<v Speaker 1>How likely are you to meet each other for dinner?</v>

01:14:18.080 --> 01:14:22.640
<v Speaker 1>The answer is you won't because you're using the same term, favorite</v>

01:14:22.720 --> 01:14:25.280
<v Speaker 1>Italian restaurant, to mean two different things.</v>

01:14:25.280 --> 01:14:27.520
<v Speaker 1>You have to know to what you're referring.</v>

01:14:27.520 --> 01:14:31.280
<v Speaker 1>And so this is where the episode really lays it out in</v>

01:14:31.280 --> 01:14:33.440
<v Speaker 1>a way that is going to be what you want for someone</v>

01:14:33.440 --> 01:14:35.200
<v Speaker 1>who's actually open to this.</v>

01:14:35.200 --> 01:14:40.000
<v Speaker 1>But when a modern the short version for you, when a modern</v>

01:14:40.000 --> 01:14:45.040
<v Speaker 1>person says Jew, he means someone who does not believe in Jesus</v>

01:14:45.040 --> 01:14:48.800
<v Speaker 1>Christ, who does believe in the things the Jews believe, who is</v>

01:14:48.800 --> 01:14:53.840
<v Speaker 1>an inherent of Judaism, and is probably also ethnically Jewish.</v>

01:14:55.360 --> 01:15:01.680
<v Speaker 1>Was Jesus Jesus a non believer in Jesus I think that's probably</v>

01:15:01.680 --> 01:15:04.960
<v Speaker 1>already enough for most rational men to go there's a problem here.</v>

01:15:04.960 --> 01:15:09.040
<v Speaker 1>Okay. Was Jesus a believer in Judaism?</v>

01:15:09.040 --> 01:15:13.200
<v Speaker 1>No, because Judaism postdates Christianity.</v>

01:15:13.200 --> 01:15:18.640
<v Speaker 1>You have the Old Testament civil law, you have the ceremonial law,</v>

01:15:18.640 --> 01:15:22.400
<v Speaker 1>these were for Old Testament Israel and are a separate thing from</v>

01:15:22.880 --> 01:15:30.160
<v Speaker 1>Judaism, which is Talmudic and from the 500s AD notably, little irony</v>

01:15:30.160 --> 01:15:35.280
<v Speaker 1>there as well, that is something that doesn't even work chronologically.</v>

01:15:35.280 --> 01:15:38.480
<v Speaker 1>And so the only way in which you can say that he</v>

01:15:38.480 --> 01:15:43.600
<v Speaker 1>was a Jew is if you mean Judean.</v>

01:15:43.600 --> 01:15:46.160
<v Speaker 1>But then why are you using the word Jew?</v>

01:15:46.160 --> 01:15:49.520
<v Speaker 1>Well you're using it because you want to do something with the</v>

01:15:49.520 --> 01:15:54.160
<v Speaker 1>term. The person using it is using it in a deliberate way,</v>

01:15:54.160 --> 01:15:56.400
<v Speaker 1>usually to sow discord.</v>

01:15:56.400 --> 01:15:59.280
<v Speaker 1>And so I usually, like I said, block those people as malefactors</v>

01:15:59.360 --> 01:16:02.560
<v Speaker 1>because they're just going to waste my time and everyone else's.</v>

01:16:02.560 --> 01:16:02.880
<v Speaker 1>But</v>

01:16:04.160 --> 01:16:06.560
<v Speaker 1>you kind of have to run through the logic and point out</v>

01:16:06.560 --> 01:16:09.520
<v Speaker 1>to the person just because you're using a word doesn't mean that</v>

01:16:09.520 --> 01:16:12.720
<v Speaker 1>everyone using the word means the same thing.</v>

01:16:12.720 --> 01:16:17.120
<v Speaker 1>Another one that I've used sometimes is, you know, auto antonyms, right?</v>

01:16:17.120 --> 01:16:20.080
<v Speaker 1>There are words that have opposite meanings.</v>

01:16:20.080 --> 01:16:23.120
<v Speaker 1>You are supposed to cleave to your wife.</v>

01:16:23.120 --> 01:16:26.400
<v Speaker 1>Well, that's not the sense we usually use these days in modern</v>

01:16:26.400 --> 01:16:30.480
<v Speaker 1>English because the most common sense of that word now, cleave, is</v>

01:16:30.480 --> 01:16:32.160
<v Speaker 1>to split in two.</v>

01:16:32.160 --> 01:16:38.400
<v Speaker 1>But the autoantonym of cleave also has a definition of to hold</v>

01:16:38.400 --> 01:16:41.920
<v Speaker 1>fast. There are a number of words like that in English, so</v>

01:16:42.000 --> 01:16:43.840
<v Speaker 1>that's another good example you can give people.</v>

01:16:43.840 --> 01:16:47.680
<v Speaker 1>You have to understand what you are saying when you use the</v>

01:16:47.680 --> 01:16:53.360
<v Speaker 1>term. So, my first recommendation is just to block these people because</v>

01:16:53.440 --> 01:16:56.720
<v Speaker 1>it really is just people trying to be divisive for the sake</v>

01:16:56.720 --> 01:16:59.920
<v Speaker 1>of being divisive and obnoxious on social media.</v>

01:16:59.920 --> 01:17:03.520
<v Speaker 1>But if it is someone who is earnest, then by all means</v>

01:17:03.600 --> 01:17:04.720
<v Speaker 1>take the time to try and understand</v>

01:17:05.920 --> 01:17:07.920
<v Speaker 1>what is the person saying?</v>

01:17:07.920 --> 01:17:08.960
<v Speaker 1>What are you claiming?</v>

01:17:08.960 --> 01:17:10.720
<v Speaker 1>That's partly how you could start off.</v>

01:17:10.720 --> 01:17:12.960
<v Speaker 1>I think this is usually a good way to do it.</v>

01:17:12.960 --> 01:17:15.520
<v Speaker 1>If you're dealing with someone who makes some sort of claim and</v>

01:17:15.520 --> 01:17:19.040
<v Speaker 1>you object, just say what do you mean?</v>

01:17:19.040 --> 01:17:21.680
<v Speaker 1>What do you mean by the word Jew?</v>

01:17:21.680 --> 01:17:24.160
<v Speaker 1>To you, what is a Jew?</v>

01:17:24.160 --> 01:17:27.520
<v Speaker 1>And if he can't even define it, why is he asking you</v>

01:17:27.520 --> 01:17:28.560
<v Speaker 1>the question?</v>

01:17:28.560 --> 01:17:31.280
<v Speaker 1>Right? I think that's probably a good place to start.</v>

01:17:31.280 --> 01:17:36.640
<v Speaker 1>Just ask him to define his terms.</v>

01:17:36.640 --> 01:17:41.200
<v Speaker 1>That was question 13, so now I can get to some of</v>

01:17:41.200 --> 01:17:47.600
<v Speaker 1>the questions that I pulled out of the chat chat earlier.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Be able to scroll up here.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Question 14.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>I will try to write these down as I go so that</v>

01:17:56.800 --> 01:17:57.280
<v Speaker 1>I can</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Add them into the show notes.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>How do we square the necessity of incest for humanity to multiply</v>

01:18:08.960 --> 01:18:11.840
<v Speaker 1>out of Adam and Eve, and later from Noah's sons, with the</v>

01:18:11.840 --> 01:18:15.200
<v Speaker 1>fact that God's morality cannot change.</v>

01:18:15.200 --> 01:18:19.680
<v Speaker 1>This actually interestingly, tangentially related to the last question.</v>

01:18:19.680 --> 01:18:21.520
<v Speaker 1>We have to define our terms.</v>

01:18:21.520 --> 01:18:22.000
<v Speaker 1>And so</v>

01:18:23.440 --> 01:18:27.520
<v Speaker 1>if by incest you mean</v>

01:18:28.400 --> 01:18:34.800
<v Speaker 1>someone producing children from someone who has similar blood, right?</v>

01:18:35.040 --> 01:18:42.160
<v Speaker 1>Someone who is too closely related, consanguinity, then yes, you're going</v>

01:18:42.160 --> 01:18:44.560
<v Speaker 1>to have some sort of issue there, right?</v>

01:18:45.200 --> 01:18:50.880
<v Speaker 1>But if you are instead appealing to the law and what is</v>

01:18:50.880 --> 01:18:53.840
<v Speaker 1>prohibited, that's a different thing.</v>

01:18:53.840 --> 01:18:56.080
<v Speaker 1>For instance, we have this today.</v>

01:18:56.080 --> 01:19:00.880
<v Speaker 1>There are countries that permit first-cousin marriage, and there are countries that</v>

01:19:00.880 --> 01:19:01.600
<v Speaker 1>prohibit it.</v>

01:19:01.600 --> 01:19:04.080
<v Speaker 1>In fact, there are states that permit it.</v>

01:19:04.400 --> 01:19:05.680
<v Speaker 1>They shouldn't, but</v>

01:19:07.200 --> 01:19:14.720
<v Speaker 1>the issue is not that it is morally, absolutely, categorically prohibited</v>

01:19:14.720 --> 01:19:16.480
<v Speaker 1>in all cases.</v>

01:19:16.480 --> 01:19:20.480
<v Speaker 1>And so historically, yes, there are relationships that are, right?</v>

01:19:20.480 --> 01:19:26.640
<v Speaker 1>You know, parent-child banned, period, never acceptable, violation of the moral law.</v>

01:19:26.640 --> 01:19:33.360
<v Speaker 1>Siblings, permissible back then, because the degradation of the genome had not</v>

01:19:33.360 --> 01:19:36.320
<v Speaker 1>proceeded to the point where it would have caused problems.</v>

01:19:36.320 --> 01:19:38.880
<v Speaker 1>That's basically the reason we have the law.</v>

01:19:38.880 --> 01:19:40.400
<v Speaker 1>We don't have the law so much</v>

01:19:41.440 --> 01:19:45.040
<v Speaker 1>because it is an absolute moral prohibition.</v>

01:19:45.040 --> 01:19:49.920
<v Speaker 1>Yes, God has now built into us disgust mechanism and revulsion and</v>

01:19:49.920 --> 01:19:52.480
<v Speaker 1>things like that to avoid these problems.</v>

01:19:52.480 --> 01:19:55.120
<v Speaker 1>But the reason the law is in place, the reason law was</v>

01:19:55.120 --> 01:19:58.480
<v Speaker 1>enacted, is because of the consequences of it.</v>

01:19:58.480 --> 01:20:01.520
<v Speaker 1>Well what happens if you marry your first cousin for five hundred</v>

01:20:01.520 --> 01:20:05.520
<v Speaker 1>years? Well, you wind up with certain nations, and I'm sure we're</v>

01:20:05.440 --> 01:20:09.520
<v Speaker 1>all thinking of one in particular, but you wind up with problems</v>

01:20:10.640 --> 01:20:12.720
<v Speaker 1>that you can avoid by not doing that.</v>

01:20:12.720 --> 01:20:16.400
<v Speaker 1>And so that's why God has that law for us today.</v>

01:20:16.400 --> 01:20:22.000
<v Speaker 1>Again, nothing absolutely categorically morally impermissible there, it is a matter of</v>

01:20:22.000 --> 01:20:25.200
<v Speaker 1>the consequence of the action post-fall world.</v>

01:20:25.200 --> 01:20:30.160
<v Speaker 1>So would God have made that a law in a world without</v>

01:20:30.160 --> 01:20:31.040
<v Speaker 1>the fall?</v>

01:20:31.040 --> 01:20:32.400
<v Speaker 1>I don't know.</v>

01:20:32.480 --> 01:20:36.560
<v Speaker 1>Maybe he would have for the sake of human diversity and spreading</v>

01:20:36.560 --> 01:20:39.120
<v Speaker 1>out over the planet and subduing the planet.</v>

01:20:39.120 --> 01:20:42.480
<v Speaker 1>But it's a counterfactual we can't run because we don't know what</v>

01:20:42.480 --> 01:20:44.480
<v Speaker 1>the world would have been like without the fall.</v>

01:20:44.480 --> 01:20:47.920
<v Speaker 1>We can't even envision that perfect world because we're living post fall</v>

01:20:47.920 --> 01:20:51.440
<v Speaker 1>with the consequences of it in our own bodies and minds.</v>

01:20:51.440 --> 01:20:56.000
<v Speaker 1>So it's not that God's law changed, it's that God enacted law</v>

01:20:56.000 --> 01:20:57.840
<v Speaker 1>to deal with something.</v>

01:20:57.840 --> 01:21:01.600
<v Speaker 1>It's not that the morality of it changed, right?</v>

01:21:01.600 --> 01:21:04.880
<v Speaker 1>Because for instance that there are certain relationships that are still absolutely</v>

01:21:04.880 --> 01:21:08.080
<v Speaker 1>categorically prohibited at all times, because it's a matter of the moral</v>

01:21:08.080 --> 01:21:10.240
<v Speaker 1>law. But there are other things that aren't.</v>

01:21:10.240 --> 01:21:16.400
<v Speaker 1>They're basically civil law.</v>

01:21:16.400 --> 01:21:19.440
<v Speaker 1>A second question from the same person.</v>

01:21:19.440 --> 01:21:22.000
<v Speaker 1>This is the question 15.</v>

01:21:24.640 --> 01:21:27.360
<v Speaker 1>What is the best way to tackle the problem of the fate</v>

01:21:27.360 --> 01:21:29.280
<v Speaker 1>of the unevangelized?</v>

01:21:29.280 --> 01:21:32.800
<v Speaker 1>Is there a way for someone living in a society like Aristotle,</v>

01:21:32.800 --> 01:21:37.600
<v Speaker 1>or Aristotle himself, to dimly believe in Christ?</v>

01:21:38.880 --> 01:21:40.480
<v Speaker 1>This is one that</v>

01:21:42.080 --> 01:21:45.920
<v Speaker 1>has come up many times down through the centuries, of course, and</v>

01:21:46.160 --> 01:21:51.040
<v Speaker 1>you have the Roman Catholics who start making things up to try</v>

01:21:51.040 --> 01:21:52.640
<v Speaker 1>to deal with this.</v>

01:21:52.560 --> 01:21:56.400
<v Speaker 1>You know, limbo does not exist, it's not in Scripture, things like</v>

01:21:56.400 --> 01:22:00.080
<v Speaker 1>that. But I don't think you have to do that, because you</v>

01:22:00.080 --> 01:22:03.680
<v Speaker 1>have places in Scripture where, for instance, God speaks of the times</v>

01:22:03.680 --> 01:22:04.320
<v Speaker 1>of ignorance.</v>

01:22:04.320 --> 01:22:06.160
<v Speaker 1>He overlooked.</v>

01:22:06.160 --> 01:22:10.480
<v Speaker 1>And you have places where it speaks of the nations groping toward</v>

01:22:10.480 --> 01:22:12.720
<v Speaker 1>God to find the light.</v>

01:22:12.720 --> 01:22:17.120
<v Speaker 1>And you have places where God speaks of assignment and things like</v>

01:22:17.120 --> 01:22:22.000
<v Speaker 1>that. So I don't think that we have like a hard and</v>

01:22:22.000 --> 01:22:25.520
<v Speaker 1>fast set of rules that we can say, oh well this pagan</v>

01:22:25.840 --> 01:22:29.760
<v Speaker 1>or this heathen, this unbeliever, whichever term you want to use, in</v>

01:22:29.760 --> 01:22:34.960
<v Speaker 1>this sense, not necessarily a pejorative sense of the term meant.</v>

01:22:34.960 --> 01:22:37.280
<v Speaker 1>This one went to paradise and this one didn't.</v>

01:22:37.280 --> 01:22:39.040
<v Speaker 1>I don't think we can do that.</v>

01:22:39.040 --> 01:22:42.480
<v Speaker 1>Because God didn't give us enough information to make that call.</v>

01:22:42.720 --> 01:22:46.000
<v Speaker 1>But we don't have to make that call because that's God's call.</v>

01:22:46.000 --> 01:22:51.200
<v Speaker 1>So do I think that there were those living in those societies</v>

01:22:51.520 --> 01:22:56.400
<v Speaker 1>who had enough of the light to be saved?</v>

01:22:56.400 --> 01:22:58.640
<v Speaker 1>I think that's probably the case.</v>

01:22:58.640 --> 01:23:03.360
<v Speaker 1>I think that God preserved enough of it in some way that</v>

01:23:03.360 --> 01:23:04.480
<v Speaker 1>that was possible.</v>

01:23:04.480 --> 01:23:06.320
<v Speaker 1>I don't know exactly how that played out.</v>

01:23:06.320 --> 01:23:08.720
<v Speaker 1>I won't even hazard a guess at the percentages.</v>

01:23:08.720 --> 01:23:10.240
<v Speaker 1>I don't know.</v>

01:23:10.240 --> 01:23:14.240
<v Speaker 1>But I don't think that we have to categorically say that everyone</v>

01:23:14.240 --> 01:23:17.280
<v Speaker 1>living in those societies was simply damned.</v>

01:23:17.280 --> 01:23:20.560
<v Speaker 1>I think that goes overboard, and I think it also ignores some</v>

01:23:20.560 --> 01:23:23.440
<v Speaker 1>verses in scripture that hint at things that are not fully explained.</v>

01:23:24.480 --> 01:23:29.440
<v Speaker 1>So we leave it to God's perfect mercy and perfect justice, and</v>

01:23:30.400 --> 01:23:33.200
<v Speaker 1>we're content with that because God is perfect and he will do</v>

01:23:33.200 --> 01:23:34.080
<v Speaker 1>what is right</v>

01:23:40.080 --> 01:23:43.120
<v Speaker 1>Other question from the same person about</v>

01:23:46.640 --> 01:23:47.600
<v Speaker 1>Original sin</v>

01:23:49.040 --> 01:23:54.640
<v Speaker 1>let's see.</v>

01:23:54.640 --> 01:24:00.960
<v Speaker 1>Basically the question over a few messages here is how does inheriting</v>

01:24:00.960 --> 01:24:03.120
<v Speaker 1>original sin actually work.</v>

01:24:03.120 --> 01:24:03.760
<v Speaker 1>And so</v>

01:24:04.640 --> 01:24:07.040
<v Speaker 1>there are two aspects to this.</v>

01:24:07.040 --> 01:24:11.440
<v Speaker 1>One you have concupiscence, which is what original sin is.</v>

01:24:11.440 --> 01:24:14.400
<v Speaker 1>It's the desire to do that which is wicked, a desire contrary</v>

01:24:14.400 --> 01:24:19.360
<v Speaker 1>to God God and a lack of original righteousness and in a</v>

01:24:19.360 --> 01:24:22.000
<v Speaker 1>sense also a lack of the Imago Dei, the image of God</v>

01:24:22.000 --> 01:24:25.600
<v Speaker 1>and man, which is tied up with original righteousness and things like</v>

01:24:25.600 --> 01:24:27.440
<v Speaker 1>that. And</v>

01:24:28.320 --> 01:24:33.520
<v Speaker 1>original sin impairs these things in man, thoroughly impairs these things.</v>

01:24:33.680 --> 01:24:36.480
<v Speaker 1>It doesn't replace them because that would be to confuse substance and</v>

01:24:36.480 --> 01:24:38.080
<v Speaker 1>accident, right?</v>

01:24:38.080 --> 01:24:41.920
<v Speaker 1>But it impairs them in man and it does it in such</v>

01:24:41.920 --> 01:24:45.200
<v Speaker 1>a way that everything we do is tainted by sin because we</v>

01:24:45.200 --> 01:24:48.400
<v Speaker 1>are sinners, as I've pointed out many times before and will undoubtedly</v>

01:24:48.400 --> 01:24:50.160
<v Speaker 1>many times in the future.</v>

01:24:50.160 --> 01:24:52.080
<v Speaker 1>We sin because we're sinners.</v>

01:24:52.080 --> 01:24:54.000
<v Speaker 1>We're not sinners because we sin.</v>

01:24:54.240 --> 01:24:58.400
<v Speaker 1>Yes, we're also additionally sinners because we sin, but the reason we</v>

01:24:58.400 --> 01:25:00.400
<v Speaker 1>sin in the first place is because we're sinners.</v>

01:25:00.400 --> 01:25:02.720
<v Speaker 1>And we're sinners because we fell in Adam.</v>

01:25:02.720 --> 01:25:06.160
<v Speaker 1>You can think of this as similar to I think it's the</v>

01:25:06.240 --> 01:25:12.080
<v Speaker 1>seventh chapter of Hebrews, you have the author of Hebrews pulling out</v>

01:25:12.320 --> 01:25:17.840
<v Speaker 1>the example of the Levites tithing to Melchizedek.</v>

01:25:17.840 --> 01:25:21.520
<v Speaker 1>Well, the Levites didn't exist yet, it was Abraham who did, but</v>

01:25:21.520 --> 01:25:25.520
<v Speaker 1>the Levites were in his loins in the word of Scripture.</v>

01:25:25.520 --> 01:25:29.200
<v Speaker 1>And that's the way you have to think about these things.</v>

01:25:29.200 --> 01:25:34.640
<v Speaker 1>When Adam fell, Adam being the head, the federal head of all</v>

01:25:34.640 --> 01:25:40.320
<v Speaker 1>creation, not just of mankind, but of creation, everything fell in Adam.</v>

01:25:40.320 --> 01:25:43.360
<v Speaker 1>You fell when Adam fell.</v>

01:25:43.360 --> 01:25:47.040
<v Speaker 1>You were already corrupt at that point.</v>

01:25:47.040 --> 01:25:50.480
<v Speaker 1>Yes, you are then born and you inherit as part of that</v>

01:25:50.480 --> 01:25:55.680
<v Speaker 1>process original sin, but you fell in Adam because the fall happened</v>

01:25:55.680 --> 01:26:00.800
<v Speaker 1>then. It's not a fall every single time some new creature comes</v>

01:26:00.800 --> 01:26:01.920
<v Speaker 1>into existence.</v>

01:26:01.920 --> 01:26:06.160
<v Speaker 1>The fall happened with Adam, it corrupted all things at that time.</v>

01:26:06.160 --> 01:26:11.280
<v Speaker 1>Now, the cumulative effects of the fall related to the previous two</v>

01:26:11.280 --> 01:26:17.440
<v Speaker 1>questions, primarily the first question, those cumulative effects over time get worse.</v>

01:26:17.440 --> 01:26:22.240
<v Speaker 1>And so if you ignore God's laws and you do the wicked</v>

01:26:22.240 --> 01:26:24.160
<v Speaker 1>things that the Canaanites did, right?</v>

01:26:24.160 --> 01:26:28.240
<v Speaker 1>Incest was part of how they worshiped their gods and child sacrifice</v>

01:26:28.320 --> 01:26:30.160
<v Speaker 1>and all sorts of horrible things.</v>

01:26:30.160 --> 01:26:35.040
<v Speaker 1>If you do that, the effects of that accumulate over time and</v>

01:26:35.040 --> 01:26:40.560
<v Speaker 1>you wind up worse off physically with regard to your body.</v>

01:26:40.560 --> 01:26:44.320
<v Speaker 1>Yes, there's also a relationship between of course the soul and the</v>

01:26:44.320 --> 01:26:51.440
<v Speaker 1>body, but it is not original sin that directly causes all</v>

01:26:51.440 --> 01:26:54.560
<v Speaker 1>of those consequences down through the centuries.</v>

01:26:54.560 --> 01:26:58.000
<v Speaker 1>There are intervening their intermediate steps.</v>

01:26:58.000 --> 01:27:02.800
<v Speaker 1>There are the actions of your wicked ancestors ancestors accumulating over a</v>

01:27:02.800 --> 01:27:04.720
<v Speaker 1>course of many generations.</v>

01:27:04.720 --> 01:27:09.760
<v Speaker 1>So you have original sin, everyone fell when Adam fell, you inherit</v>

01:27:09.760 --> 01:27:13.520
<v Speaker 1>it through natural generation, and then you have also this accumulation of</v>

01:27:13.520 --> 01:27:19.120
<v Speaker 1>consequences of wicked actions actions subsequent to the fall by previous generations.</v>

01:27:19.120 --> 01:27:23.440
<v Speaker 1>So you have to have a generational outlook and a headship view</v>

01:27:23.440 --> 01:27:27.680
<v Speaker 1>of these things, not an individual view, because you're not a disconnected</v>

01:27:27.680 --> 01:27:30.320
<v Speaker 1>individual. You're a link in a chain, leading all the way back</v>

01:27:30.320 --> 01:27:38.800
<v Speaker 1>to Adam.</v>

01:27:38.960 --> 01:27:42.880
<v Speaker 1>Person also asked a question about how do we balance prayer and</v>

01:27:42.880 --> 01:27:44.960
<v Speaker 1>the sovereign will of God.</v>

01:27:44.960 --> 01:27:47.840
<v Speaker 1>I went over that in a previous episode, so I would just</v>

01:27:47.840 --> 01:27:49.040
<v Speaker 1>direct you to that.</v>

01:27:49.040 --> 01:27:51.520
<v Speaker 1>Maybe someone knows which specific episode.</v>

01:27:51.520 --> 01:27:53.120
<v Speaker 1>I don't know off the top of my head which one it</v>

01:27:53.120 --> 01:27:53.360
<v Speaker 1>was.</v>

01:27:54.320 --> 01:27:58.800
<v Speaker 1>But basically the short version is that time and causation don't apply</v>

01:27:58.800 --> 01:27:59.760
<v Speaker 1>to God.</v>

01:27:59.760 --> 01:28:02.480
<v Speaker 1>So you're thinking about it from a human framework?</v>

01:28:02.480 --> 01:28:05.040
<v Speaker 1>Don't. Think about it from God's viewpoint.</v>

01:28:09.200 --> 01:28:09.520
<v Speaker 1>So</v>

01:28:11.600 --> 01:28:19.840
<v Speaker 1>write those down so I remember them for later.</v>

01:28:19.840 --> 01:28:21.200
<v Speaker 1>The next question.</v>

01:28:21.200 --> 01:28:23.520
<v Speaker 1>Question 18.</v>

01:28:23.520 --> 01:28:27.280
<v Speaker 1>What do you believe about partial preterism in regard to end times</v>

01:28:27.360 --> 01:28:31.040
<v Speaker 1>beliefs? How do you deal with the time indicators this generation shortly</v>

01:28:31.040 --> 01:28:32.560
<v Speaker 1>take place?</v>

01:28:33.600 --> 01:28:37.120
<v Speaker 1>This is a broad topic, so I'm going to do a superficial</v>

01:28:37.120 --> 01:28:40.240
<v Speaker 1>treatment of it right now because I'm not going to spend, you</v>

01:28:40.240 --> 01:28:42.880
<v Speaker 1>know, an hour right now going over this.</v>

01:28:42.880 --> 01:28:47.520
<v Speaker 1>Insofar as the fulfillment of prophecy is concerned, there are some prophecies</v>

01:28:47.520 --> 01:28:53.840
<v Speaker 1>that have been fulfilled, but for most prophecies, particularly eschatological prophet prophecies,</v>

01:28:53.840 --> 01:28:57.520
<v Speaker 1>prophecies dealing with the end times, you have sort of a cyclical</v>

01:28:58.000 --> 01:29:02.960
<v Speaker 1>fulfillment. You'll have lesser fulfillments in the sense of sort of minor,</v>

01:29:02.960 --> 01:29:07.200
<v Speaker 1>just not complete, not you know, lesser in the sense of unimportant.</v>

01:29:07.200 --> 01:29:14.480
<v Speaker 1>But you'll have them basically symbolizing or mirroring in an essence</v>

01:29:14.640 --> 01:29:17.680
<v Speaker 1>the future full fulfillment of the thing.</v>

01:29:17.680 --> 01:29:20.480
<v Speaker 1>And God loves to do this.</v>

01:29:20.480 --> 01:29:22.880
<v Speaker 1>God loves symbolism.</v>

01:29:22.880 --> 01:29:25.680
<v Speaker 1>God loves typology.</v>

01:29:25.680 --> 01:29:28.240
<v Speaker 1>This is how He loves to do things.</v>

01:29:28.240 --> 01:29:31.280
<v Speaker 1>You have this all over the Old Testament and the New Testament</v>

01:29:31.280 --> 01:29:31.920
<v Speaker 1>as well.</v>

01:29:31.920 --> 01:29:37.760
<v Speaker 1>And so for instance, you have Abraham serving as both a type</v>

01:29:37.760 --> 01:29:39.200
<v Speaker 1>of Christ and a type of God, right?</v>

01:29:39.440 --> 01:29:41.760
<v Speaker 1>Because he's sacrificing his son.</v>

01:29:41.760 --> 01:29:45.520
<v Speaker 1>In his case he doesn't actually sacrifice his son, but it's typologically</v>

01:29:45.520 --> 01:29:48.800
<v Speaker 1>connected to God sacrificing his son.</v>

01:29:48.800 --> 01:29:53.600
<v Speaker 1>You have the times where he delivers his relatives serving as a</v>

01:29:53.600 --> 01:29:57.360
<v Speaker 1>type of Christ, delivering from not from relatives, but from Satan, so</v>

01:29:57.360 --> 01:30:00.560
<v Speaker 1>a greater fulfillment, the antitype versus the type.</v>

01:30:00.560 --> 01:30:04.720
<v Speaker 1>You have Joseph as a type of Christ who goes ahead of</v>

01:30:04.720 --> 01:30:07.360
<v Speaker 1>the people and then comes out of Egypt and things like that.</v>

01:30:07.360 --> 01:30:12.560
<v Speaker 1>You have Israel itself serving as a type of Christ in bondage,</v>

01:30:12.560 --> 01:30:17.440
<v Speaker 1>in Israel and being called out of that bondage, right, symbolizing sin</v>

01:30:17.520 --> 01:30:18.720
<v Speaker 1>and things like that.</v>

01:30:18.720 --> 01:30:20.720
<v Speaker 1>This is all over the scriptures.</v>

01:30:20.720 --> 01:30:24.080
<v Speaker 1>The same thing happens with prophecies about the end times.</v>

01:30:24.080 --> 01:30:29.200
<v Speaker 1>You have minor fulfillments, you have typological fulfillments, and then for most</v>

01:30:29.280 --> 01:30:34.080
<v Speaker 1>of them, there is a future true fulfillment.</v>

01:30:34.080 --> 01:30:38.960
<v Speaker 1>And so for those who wouldn't, for instance, pass away until these</v>

01:30:38.960 --> 01:30:42.400
<v Speaker 1>things take place, 70 AD was one of the fulfillments when the</v>

01:30:42.400 --> 01:30:44.560
<v Speaker 1>Romans destroyed Jerusalem.</v>

01:30:44.560 --> 01:30:48.080
<v Speaker 1>And so sometimes when Christ is talking about it, he is meaning</v>

01:30:48.080 --> 01:30:53.200
<v Speaker 1>that fulfillment in that typological sense, not the ultimate one that will</v>

01:30:53.200 --> 01:30:57.040
<v Speaker 1>come at some point in the future, even from our perspective.</v>

01:30:57.040 --> 01:31:01.040
<v Speaker 1>So insofar as partial preterism is concerned, it depends on what the</v>

01:31:01.040 --> 01:31:02.480
<v Speaker 1>person means by it.</v>

01:31:02.480 --> 01:31:06.880
<v Speaker 1>If they just mean that some things have been fulfilled, okay fine.</v>

01:31:06.880 --> 01:31:09.600
<v Speaker 1>If they mean that some things have been fulfilled in a way</v>

01:31:09.600 --> 01:31:12.800
<v Speaker 1>that means they can't have a future greater fulfillment, then I probably</v>

01:31:12.800 --> 01:31:18.160
<v Speaker 1>disagree. Because I think that generally speaking there are future greater fulfillments</v>

01:31:18.240 --> 01:31:28.480
<v Speaker 1>even for the prophecies that have had minor fulfillments in the past.</v>

01:31:28.560 --> 01:31:32.720
<v Speaker 1>The next question I don't know how many more I'm going to</v>

01:31:32.720 --> 01:31:35.200
<v Speaker 1>go through, probably not too many more though.</v>

01:31:35.200 --> 01:31:39.520
<v Speaker 1>Since we've run about an hour and a half, I think.</v>

01:31:40.160 --> 01:31:43.920
<v Speaker 1>Question regarding the Pentecostal or charismatic movements.</v>

01:31:43.920 --> 01:31:47.760
<v Speaker 1>I understand the argument against the against them for being modern innovations,</v>

01:31:47.760 --> 01:31:50.480
<v Speaker 1>nineteen hundreds and nineteen sixties respectively.</v>

01:31:50.480 --> 01:31:54.400
<v Speaker 1>True. And I am aware of many of the excesses that go</v>

01:31:54.400 --> 01:31:57.920
<v Speaker 1>on, but what is the theological argument against the common use of</v>

01:31:57.920 --> 01:32:00.160
<v Speaker 1>spiritual gifts in church that seems to be laid out in out</v>

01:32:00.240 --> 01:32:04.320
<v Speaker 1>in 1 Corinthians 12.</v>

01:32:04.320 --> 01:32:11.920
<v Speaker 1>And so we will, of course, turn to 1 Corinthians 12,</v>

01:32:11.920 --> 01:32:16.000
<v Speaker 1>because it is always best to actually look at the scripture when</v>

01:32:16.000 --> 01:32:18.640
<v Speaker 1>we are going to use it.</v>

01:32:18.640 --> 01:32:19.280
<v Speaker 1>And so</v>

01:32:20.240 --> 01:32:22.480
<v Speaker 1>we'll pull up logos here.</v>

01:32:32.480 --> 01:32:35.840
<v Speaker 1>Now concerning spiritual gifts, brothers, I do not want you to be</v>

01:32:35.840 --> 01:32:38.960
<v Speaker 1>uninformed. You know that when you were pagans, you were led astray</v>

01:32:38.960 --> 01:32:41.920
<v Speaker 1>to mute idols, however you were led.</v>

01:32:41.920 --> 01:32:44.800
<v Speaker 1>Therefore I want you to understand that no one speaking in the</v>

01:32:44.800 --> 01:32:48.400
<v Speaker 1>Spirit of God ever says Jesus is accursed, and no one can</v>

01:32:48.400 --> 01:32:51.280
<v Speaker 1>say Jesus is Lord except in the Holy Spirit.</v>

01:32:51.520 --> 01:32:55.120
<v Speaker 1>Now there are varieties of gifts, but the same Spirit, and there</v>

01:32:55.120 --> 01:32:58.880
<v Speaker 1>are varieties of service, but the same Lord, and there are varieties</v>

01:32:58.880 --> 01:33:02.240
<v Speaker 1>of activities, but it is the same God who empowers them all</v>

01:33:02.240 --> 01:33:03.280
<v Speaker 1>and every one.</v>

01:33:03.280 --> 01:33:06.640
<v Speaker 1>To each is given the manifestation of the Spirit for the common</v>

01:33:06.640 --> 01:33:09.920
<v Speaker 1>good, for to one is given through the Spirit the utterance of</v>

01:33:09.920 --> 01:33:13.760
<v Speaker 1>wisdom, and to another the utterance of knowledge according to the same</v>

01:33:13.760 --> 01:33:17.520
<v Speaker 1>Spirit, to another faith by the same Spirit, to another gifts of</v>

01:33:17.520 --> 01:33:21.840
<v Speaker 1>healing by the one spirit, to another the working of miracles, to</v>

01:33:21.840 --> 01:33:26.800
<v Speaker 1>another prophecy, to another the ability to distinguish between spirits, to another</v>

01:33:26.800 --> 01:33:31.840
<v Speaker 1>various kinds of tongues, to another the interpretation of tongues, all these</v>

01:33:31.840 --> 01:33:35.520
<v Speaker 1>are empowered by one and the same Spirit, who apportions to each</v>

01:33:35.520 --> 01:33:40.240
<v Speaker 1>one individually, as He wills.</v>

01:33:40.480 --> 01:33:42.080
<v Speaker 1>So the question for</v>

01:33:43.360 --> 01:33:45.200
<v Speaker 1>the gifts, right?</v>

01:33:45.200 --> 01:33:50.000
<v Speaker 1>Is well first off, are you a cessationist or not, right?</v>

01:33:50.000 --> 01:33:51.040
<v Speaker 1>That's sort of the first step.</v>

01:33:51.040 --> 01:33:53.680
<v Speaker 1>Lutherans or not, at least not in the sense of being a</v>

01:33:53.680 --> 01:33:59.680
<v Speaker 1>full cessationist, which basically means have the sign gifts, these sorts of</v>

01:33:59.680 --> 01:34:02.480
<v Speaker 1>gifts, ceased in the modern church?</v>

01:34:02.480 --> 01:34:04.960
<v Speaker 1>Has God stopped handing these things out?</v>

01:34:04.960 --> 01:34:08.320
<v Speaker 1>Lutherans are not full cessationists.</v>

01:34:08.320 --> 01:34:11.120
<v Speaker 1>Now, have these things certainly</v>

01:34:12.160 --> 01:34:13.920
<v Speaker 1>petered off, right?</v>

01:34:13.920 --> 01:34:15.840
<v Speaker 1>Are they less frequent these days?</v>

01:34:15.840 --> 01:34:21.280
<v Speaker 1>Absolutely. Because by and large God was using these in order to</v>

01:34:21.280 --> 01:34:26.880
<v Speaker 1>establish the early church in a way that was completely irrefutable, right?</v>

01:34:26.880 --> 01:34:29.040
<v Speaker 1>And you can think of Christ's words, right?</v>

01:34:29.040 --> 01:34:32.000
<v Speaker 1>Blessed are those who have not seen and yet believe.</v>

01:34:32.000 --> 01:34:36.560
<v Speaker 1>And so is it more blessed to believe, despite not having had</v>

01:34:36.560 --> 01:34:38.880
<v Speaker 1>sort of the thunderbolt from heaven strike you.</v>

01:34:38.880 --> 01:34:42.400
<v Speaker 1>Yes, Scripture's very clear on that.</v>

01:34:42.400 --> 01:34:45.600
<v Speaker 1>But that doesn't mean these gifts are never given out.</v>

01:34:45.600 --> 01:34:48.480
<v Speaker 1>And so are there people who have these gifts?</v>

01:34:48.800 --> 01:34:51.440
<v Speaker 1>I would say yes, there probably are.</v>

01:34:51.440 --> 01:34:54.240
<v Speaker 1>The issue would be identifying them, right?</v>

01:34:54.240 --> 01:34:55.680
<v Speaker 1>And you have to test the spirits.</v>

01:34:55.680 --> 01:34:58.480
<v Speaker 1>You have to discern whether or not this is someone who has</v>

01:34:58.480 --> 01:34:59.680
<v Speaker 1>these abilities.</v>

01:34:59.680 --> 01:35:03.040
<v Speaker 1>And I think that the issue with regard to the Pentecostals and</v>

01:35:03.040 --> 01:35:09.280
<v Speaker 1>others is that it never takes the form that we see in</v>

01:35:09.280 --> 01:35:13.200
<v Speaker 1>the ancient church, and it never takes a form that is good</v>

01:35:13.200 --> 01:35:17.840
<v Speaker 1>and orderly and orderly and builds up, it's always chaos.</v>

01:35:17.840 --> 01:35:22.480
<v Speaker 1>And for some reason it's always speaking in tongues, right?</v>

01:35:22.480 --> 01:35:26.080
<v Speaker 1>When's the last time you went to a Pentecostal service and saw</v>

01:35:26.080 --> 01:35:31.840
<v Speaker 1>someone tell a cripple, stand up and go home.</v>

01:35:31.840 --> 01:35:34.720
<v Speaker 1>If someone does that, then okay, I'm going to say fine, he</v>

01:35:34.720 --> 01:35:35.760
<v Speaker 1>has the gift of healing.</v>

01:35:35.760 --> 01:35:37.520
<v Speaker 1>God has given him the gift of healing.</v>

01:35:37.520 --> 01:35:40.320
<v Speaker 1>As long as he can also say, you know, Jesus is Lord.</v>

01:35:40.320 --> 01:35:41.200
<v Speaker 1>But it's never that.</v>

01:35:41.200 --> 01:35:44.080
<v Speaker 1>It's always someone standing up and screaming gibberish.</v>

01:35:44.080 --> 01:35:46.560
<v Speaker 1>Well, what does it say just even here?</v>

01:35:46.560 --> 01:35:50.400
<v Speaker 1>Some are given the gift of tongues, and some the interpretation of</v>

01:35:50.400 --> 01:35:53.040
<v Speaker 1>tongues. And then there are other places, of course, where Paul says,</v>

01:35:53.040 --> 01:35:54.880
<v Speaker 1>unless someone is present to interpret</v>

01:35:55.760 --> 01:35:57.920
<v Speaker 1>shut up is basically what Paul says.</v>

01:35:57.920 --> 01:36:00.240
<v Speaker 1>He says it in a slightly nicer fashion, but that's what he's</v>

01:36:00.240 --> 01:36:01.920
<v Speaker 1>saying. Okay.</v>

01:36:01.920 --> 01:36:05.360
<v Speaker 1>If someone is present to interpret what it is you're saying, and</v>

01:36:05.360 --> 01:36:09.200
<v Speaker 1>what you're saying is coherent, then by all means, maybe God is</v>

01:36:09.680 --> 01:36:11.760
<v Speaker 1>but there's also the misunderstanding.</v>

01:36:11.760 --> 01:36:16.640
<v Speaker 1>People think that tongues are some new language God has given you.</v>

01:36:16.640 --> 01:36:18.160
<v Speaker 1>Think of Pentecost.</v>

01:36:18.160 --> 01:36:21.360
<v Speaker 1>The gift of tongues was so that men could understand what was</v>

01:36:21.360 --> 01:36:24.400
<v Speaker 1>being said in their own languages.</v>

01:36:24.400 --> 01:36:29.200
<v Speaker 1>Great. If someone who has spent his entire life living in the</v>

01:36:29.200 --> 01:36:34.080
<v Speaker 1>United States has never left whatever whatever state, I won't pick one</v>

01:36:34.240 --> 01:36:37.440
<v Speaker 1>because someone will be annoyed that I'm picking on their state, but</v>

01:36:37.600 --> 01:36:40.880
<v Speaker 1>you know, someone has lived in this state in his entire life,</v>

01:36:40.880 --> 01:36:43.760
<v Speaker 1>never left, knows only English, and suddenly stands up in church and</v>

01:36:43.760 --> 01:36:45.840
<v Speaker 1>he speaks fluent Dutch, okay, fine.</v>

01:36:45.840 --> 01:36:48.400
<v Speaker 1>He has the gift of tongues.</v>

01:36:48.400 --> 01:36:52.640
<v Speaker 1>But it's never Dutch or German or French.</v>

01:36:52.640 --> 01:36:54.080
<v Speaker 1>It's gibberish.</v>

01:36:54.080 --> 01:36:57.520
<v Speaker 1>That's the problem that I have with Pentecostalism.</v>

01:36:57.520 --> 01:36:59.360
<v Speaker 1>It's emotionalism.</v>

01:36:59.360 --> 01:37:01.200
<v Speaker 1>It is enthusiasm.</v>

01:37:01.200 --> 01:37:04.160
<v Speaker 1>It is a denial of the way in which God has said</v>

01:37:04.160 --> 01:37:07.520
<v Speaker 1>that He wants to work with and through His people.</v>

01:37:07.520 --> 01:37:10.640
<v Speaker 1>Because God is very clear in the scriptures that the way that</v>

01:37:10.640 --> 01:37:13.520
<v Speaker 1>He works with His people, the way that He bestows His gifts</v>

01:37:13.760 --> 01:37:18.080
<v Speaker 1>is the Word and the Sacraments, and the enthusiasts always go for</v>

01:37:18.080 --> 01:37:21.040
<v Speaker 1>the burning in the bosom, which is the same argument that we</v>

01:37:21.040 --> 01:37:22.240
<v Speaker 1>hear from the Mormons.</v>

01:37:22.240 --> 01:37:25.040
<v Speaker 1>And I give it about the same credence that I give the</v>

01:37:25.040 --> 01:37:29.040
<v Speaker 1>Mormons. That would be the real issue that I have with regard</v>

01:37:29.040 --> 01:37:33.840
<v Speaker 1>to the Pentecostals, the Charismatics, and any of the sign gifts.</v>

01:37:33.840 --> 01:37:38.960
<v Speaker 1>They're less common these days, doesn't mean they've ceased totally, but demonstrate</v>

01:37:38.960 --> 01:37:42.000
<v Speaker 1>them in a way that is consonant with scripture, that is a</v>

01:37:42.000 --> 01:37:46.960
<v Speaker 1>matter of good order, and is real as opposed to what I</v>

01:37:46.960 --> 01:37:49.200
<v Speaker 1>always see when I see the Pentecostals.</v>

01:37:49.200 --> 01:37:51.360
<v Speaker 1>You know, don't just stand up and scream gibberish.</v>

01:37:51.360 --> 01:37:52.880
<v Speaker 1>Anyone can do that.</v>

01:37:53.920 --> 01:38:04.160
<v Speaker 1>Play any online game and you'll hear that in voice chat.</v>

01:38:04.800 --> 01:38:07.760
<v Speaker 1>See a couple questions popped up and people answered them with Stone</v>

01:38:07.760 --> 01:38:10.400
<v Speaker 1>Choir episodes, so I can keep scrolling.</v>

01:38:19.360 --> 01:38:25.200
<v Speaker 1>I'm going to guess that the question about Eastern esoteric practices regarding</v>

01:38:25.200 --> 01:38:28.000
<v Speaker 1>sexuality is meant as a joke.</v>

01:38:28.000 --> 01:38:28.320
<v Speaker 1>So</v>

01:38:29.680 --> 01:38:34.400
<v Speaker 1>but the real answer to that question, not directly but indirectly, is</v>

01:38:34.400 --> 01:38:37.920
<v Speaker 1>that you should be having sex with your wife frequently.</v>

01:38:37.920 --> 01:38:42.160
<v Speaker 1>Pretty much as often as you can manage in your schedule.</v>

01:38:42.720 --> 01:38:46.640
<v Speaker 1>Another reason to go back to the earlier question of cardio and</v>

01:38:46.640 --> 01:38:47.600
<v Speaker 1>lifting heavy things.</v>

01:38:47.600 --> 01:38:50.480
<v Speaker 1>Hopefully the heavy thing not being your wife in this case.</v>

01:38:58.400 --> 01:38:59.360
<v Speaker 1>Question</v>

01:39:01.040 --> 01:39:04.320
<v Speaker 1>twenty. I won't count the question about sex as a question, but</v>

01:39:04.320 --> 01:39:05.600
<v Speaker 1>question twenty.</v>

01:39:05.600 --> 01:39:09.280
<v Speaker 1>I have a close friend looking to get into reading the Bible</v>

01:39:09.280 --> 01:39:10.320
<v Speaker 1>for the first time.</v>

01:39:10.320 --> 01:39:12.240
<v Speaker 1>What order would you recommend?</v>

01:39:12.240 --> 01:39:14.960
<v Speaker 1>Mark, Luke first, Acts, then some letters.</v>

01:39:14.960 --> 01:39:18.720
<v Speaker 1>I think that's probably a pretty good way to go about it.</v>

01:39:18.720 --> 01:39:20.240
<v Speaker 1>Part of it depends on</v>

01:39:21.360 --> 01:39:22.560
<v Speaker 1>your friend, right?</v>

01:39:22.560 --> 01:39:24.080
<v Speaker 1>You know your friend better than I do.</v>

01:39:24.080 --> 01:39:26.800
<v Speaker 1>If he's the sort of man who will enjoy Job, then you</v>

01:39:26.800 --> 01:39:29.520
<v Speaker 1>know, by all means read Job, Proverbs.</v>

01:39:29.520 --> 01:39:32.720
<v Speaker 1>For the average person, though, I think</v>

01:39:33.840 --> 01:39:40.400
<v Speaker 1>Luke is probably my general first recommendation for a European, for a</v>

01:39:40.400 --> 01:39:45.440
<v Speaker 1>white man, because it reads more like how we think.</v>

01:39:45.440 --> 01:39:47.760
<v Speaker 1>Unsurprising, Luke being Greek.</v>

01:39:48.160 --> 01:39:53.120
<v Speaker 1>So I think Luke first, then maybe Mark.</v>

01:39:53.120 --> 01:39:59.280
<v Speaker 1>John is more heavily theological, so if your friend has the mind</v>

01:39:59.280 --> 01:40:02.480
<v Speaker 1>for that, he will probably enjoy John.</v>

01:40:02.480 --> 01:40:05.760
<v Speaker 1>I mean, obviously you eventually get around to John, but you could</v>

01:40:05.760 --> 01:40:09.440
<v Speaker 1>recommend John Acts, of course, is also a very good one to</v>

01:40:09.440 --> 01:40:13.120
<v Speaker 1>have early on to learn about how the early church handled things,</v>

01:40:13.120 --> 01:40:15.760
<v Speaker 1>how it spread, some of the history to tie things in in</v>

01:40:15.760 --> 01:40:17.760
<v Speaker 1>a concrete way.</v>

01:40:17.760 --> 01:40:18.400
<v Speaker 1>And then</v>

01:40:19.360 --> 01:40:25.840
<v Speaker 1>definitely Genesis should be in your top handful, top five, probably, top</v>

01:40:25.920 --> 01:40:28.480
<v Speaker 1>five, top six.</v>

01:40:28.480 --> 01:40:32.880
<v Speaker 1>Because Genesis is going to give you a grounding in the history</v>

01:40:33.040 --> 01:40:36.240
<v Speaker 1>and you're going to start seeing echoes in the New Testament of</v>

01:40:36.240 --> 01:40:38.000
<v Speaker 1>things that take place in the Old Testament.</v>

01:40:38.640 --> 01:40:43.120
<v Speaker 1>And that's an important part of the Christian faith, is recognizing that</v>

01:40:43.120 --> 01:40:47.120
<v Speaker 1>continuity exists and that God has been consistent over a course of</v>

01:40:47.120 --> 01:40:48.480
<v Speaker 1>many generations.</v>

01:40:48.480 --> 01:40:54.640
<v Speaker 1>And then of course, to answer the theological questions, Romans, and if</v>

01:40:54.800 --> 01:40:58.800
<v Speaker 1>your friend is the kind of man who's going to enjoy John,</v>

01:40:58.800 --> 01:41:00.160
<v Speaker 1>then Hebrews.</v>

01:41:00.160 --> 01:41:04.640
<v Speaker 1>Right. Get around to Revelation whenever you get around to it.</v>

01:41:04.640 --> 01:41:07.600
<v Speaker 1>Guys go off the rails, revelation, so it's not ever going to</v>

01:41:07.600 --> 01:41:09.680
<v Speaker 1>be in my top recommendations.</v>

01:41:26.000 --> 01:41:31.360
<v Speaker 1>Someone asked about the stone choir intro theme and if it changed.</v>

01:41:31.360 --> 01:41:36.240
<v Speaker 1>If it did that was not intentional.</v>

01:41:36.240 --> 01:41:42.400
<v Speaker 1>So if that changed, it would probably be when I changed</v>

01:41:44.240 --> 01:41:46.960
<v Speaker 1>I think I may have edited</v>

01:41:48.160 --> 01:41:52.720
<v Speaker 1>the really early episodes initially in GarageBand and then switched to Logic</v>

01:41:52.720 --> 01:41:55.440
<v Speaker 1>Pro. But those two</v>

01:41:57.040 --> 01:42:00.720
<v Speaker 1>dogs should be totally compatible, so I don't know why that would</v>

01:42:00.720 --> 01:42:05.040
<v Speaker 1>change. So if that changed, good ear.</v>

01:42:05.040 --> 01:42:06.640
<v Speaker 1>I don't have perfect pitch.</v>

01:42:06.640 --> 01:42:09.280
<v Speaker 1>So at least I don't think I have perfect pitch.</v>

01:42:09.280 --> 01:42:10.560
<v Speaker 1>I've never tested myself for it.</v>

01:42:10.560 --> 01:42:11.760
<v Speaker 1>I don't believe I do.</v>

01:42:11.760 --> 01:42:15.840
<v Speaker 1>So if you notice something that I didn't notice, well done.</v>

01:42:15.840 --> 01:42:17.360
<v Speaker 1>But I did not do it intentionally.</v>

01:42:17.360 --> 01:42:19.920
<v Speaker 1>I was not it was not an Easter egg.</v>

01:42:19.920 --> 01:42:20.240
<v Speaker 1>So</v>

01:42:26.560 --> 01:42:29.920
<v Speaker 1>Okay, I think I will go with one more question for this</v>

01:42:29.920 --> 01:42:33.200
<v Speaker 1>episode and then call it an evening so you can all as</v>

01:42:33.200 --> 01:42:35.680
<v Speaker 1>well get to your weekends.</v>

01:42:37.920 --> 01:42:40.560
<v Speaker 1>I will have to pick a question that is about someone I</v>

01:42:40.560 --> 01:42:44.160
<v Speaker 1>know because I scrolled to a question and gave me a name</v>

01:42:44.160 --> 01:42:48.080
<v Speaker 1>of someone I do not know.</v>

01:42:48.080 --> 01:42:49.280
<v Speaker 1>Let's see.</v>

01:42:56.320 --> 01:42:58.800
<v Speaker 1>I am not German slash Nordic.</v>

01:42:58.800 --> 01:43:01.600
<v Speaker 1>How can I feel like I'm not LARPing by joining a Lutheran</v>

01:43:01.600 --> 01:43:04.880
<v Speaker 1>church? I am Iberian and Irish and agree with the Book of</v>

01:43:04.880 --> 01:43:11.280
<v Speaker 1>Concord, but I feel like I'm LARPing because my ancestors weren't Lutheran.</v>

01:43:11.280 --> 01:43:13.680
<v Speaker 1>I don't think that the problem there</v>

01:43:14.640 --> 01:43:17.680
<v Speaker 1>is that your ancestors weren't Lutheran.</v>

01:43:17.680 --> 01:43:19.280
<v Speaker 1>So, and I'm going to</v>

01:43:20.240 --> 01:43:22.000
<v Speaker 1>two different lines here.</v>

01:43:22.000 --> 01:43:24.320
<v Speaker 1>One is the theology, right?</v>

01:43:24.640 --> 01:43:29.600
<v Speaker 1>We all should agree on theology because the theology is a statement</v>

01:43:29.600 --> 01:43:32.000
<v Speaker 1>of truths about the Christian faith.</v>

01:43:32.000 --> 01:43:34.800
<v Speaker 1>It's a statement of the tenets of the Christian faith and an</v>

01:43:34.800 --> 01:43:36.960
<v Speaker 1>explanation of them.</v>

01:43:36.960 --> 01:43:40.800
<v Speaker 1>We should all agree on that because in so far as we</v>

01:43:40.800 --> 01:43:44.080
<v Speaker 1>are correct about them, we should all want to be correct.</v>

01:43:44.080 --> 01:43:45.920
<v Speaker 1>And I believe Lutheranism is correct.</v>

01:43:45.920 --> 01:43:49.440
<v Speaker 1>You say you agree with the book of Concord, that's going to</v>

01:43:49.440 --> 01:43:51.040
<v Speaker 1>be a great step in the right direction.</v>

01:43:51.040 --> 01:43:52.960
<v Speaker 1>We agree on that On that.</v>

01:43:52.960 --> 01:43:58.240
<v Speaker 1>The other aspect of this though is insofar as praxis is concerned,</v>

01:43:58.240 --> 01:44:02.160
<v Speaker 1>so as opposed to sort of theology is the theory, right?</v>

01:44:02.160 --> 01:44:05.920
<v Speaker 1>Doctrine's the theory, what you do in church and how you live</v>

01:44:05.920 --> 01:44:09.280
<v Speaker 1>out your Christian life is the praxis.</v>

01:44:09.280 --> 01:44:11.520
<v Speaker 1>That's going to have some similarities.</v>

01:44:11.520 --> 01:44:12.960
<v Speaker 1>We're all going to pray.</v>

01:44:12.960 --> 01:44:14.880
<v Speaker 1>We're all going to sing in church.</v>

01:44:14.880 --> 01:44:17.920
<v Speaker 1>I guess hearkening back to the question about the Lystadians, they don't</v>

01:44:17.840 --> 01:44:20.160
<v Speaker 1>use instruments I like instruments.</v>

01:44:20.160 --> 01:44:21.760
<v Speaker 1>Lutherans always use them.</v>

01:44:21.760 --> 01:44:24.800
<v Speaker 1>I'm sure you agree on that.</v>

01:44:24.800 --> 01:44:29.040
<v Speaker 1>These things, and many like them, are going to be similar across</v>

01:44:29.040 --> 01:44:31.600
<v Speaker 1>denominations, right?</v>

01:44:31.600 --> 01:44:32.000
<v Speaker 1>So So</v>

01:44:33.920 --> 01:44:35.680
<v Speaker 1>that is good.</v>

01:44:35.680 --> 01:44:37.280
<v Speaker 1>We should have some similarities.</v>

01:44:37.280 --> 01:44:39.280
<v Speaker 1>We're worshiping the same God.</v>

01:44:39.280 --> 01:44:41.600
<v Speaker 1>We're all Christians.</v>

01:44:41.600 --> 01:44:44.320
<v Speaker 1>But we're not racially identical.</v>

01:44:44.320 --> 01:44:46.960
<v Speaker 1>We're not racially interchangeable.</v>

01:44:46.960 --> 01:44:49.360
<v Speaker 1>And there's nothing wrong with that.</v>

01:44:49.360 --> 01:44:52.720
<v Speaker 1>The Irish should not worship in the same way as the Germans.</v>

01:44:52.720 --> 01:44:55.840
<v Speaker 1>The British are not going to worship in the same way as</v>

01:44:55.840 --> 01:44:56.800
<v Speaker 1>the Germans.</v>

01:44:56.800 --> 01:45:01.040
<v Speaker 1>And you can get differences that are even more significant, right?</v>

01:45:01.040 --> 01:45:04.240
<v Speaker 1>The Russians are not going to worship in the same way as</v>

01:45:04.240 --> 01:45:05.200
<v Speaker 1>the Spanish.</v>

01:45:05.200 --> 01:45:08.240
<v Speaker 1>The Spanish won't worship in the same way as the Japanese.</v>

01:45:08.240 --> 01:45:09.760
<v Speaker 1>There's nothing wrong with that.</v>

01:45:09.760 --> 01:45:14.160
<v Speaker 1>There's going to be an ethnic, a racial, a national expression of</v>

01:45:14.160 --> 01:45:19.680
<v Speaker 1>Christianity. As long as you maintain the right doctrine and that core</v>

01:45:19.680 --> 01:45:23.120
<v Speaker 1>of reverence, I don't think you should be completely irreverent in church.</v>

01:45:23.120 --> 01:45:26.560
<v Speaker 1>church, but different levels of that, right?</v>

01:45:26.560 --> 01:45:30.320
<v Speaker 1>Germans are going to be a little more rule bound, as it</v>

01:45:30.320 --> 01:45:34.400
<v Speaker 1>were. The expressions are going to be different, and I think that's</v>

01:45:34.400 --> 01:45:35.120
<v Speaker 1>a good thing.</v>

01:45:35.120 --> 01:45:38.000
<v Speaker 1>God wanted diversity in this world.</v>

01:45:38.000 --> 01:45:40.400
<v Speaker 1>Diversity is not a dirty word.</v>

01:45:40.400 --> 01:45:44.560
<v Speaker 1>Diversity is a good thing that God wanted in its place.</v>

01:45:44.560 --> 01:45:49.040
<v Speaker 1>The problem is when you have it mixed up in a way</v>

01:45:49.040 --> 01:45:50.960
<v Speaker 1>that destroys what God actually wanted.</v>

01:45:50.960 --> 01:45:53.680
<v Speaker 1>You can think of it like invasive species, right?</v>

01:45:53.680 --> 01:45:56.960
<v Speaker 1>There is a diversity of life on this planet, but if you</v>

01:45:56.960 --> 01:45:59.520
<v Speaker 1>have a species that's supposed to be in one place and it's</v>

01:45:59.520 --> 01:46:03.440
<v Speaker 1>in another, it's going to be destructive to that environment because it</v>

01:46:03.440 --> 01:46:04.480
<v Speaker 1>shouldn't be there.</v>

01:46:04.480 --> 01:46:07.200
<v Speaker 1>Or it'll get destroyed by the environment, which is actually the better</v>

01:46:07.200 --> 01:46:08.480
<v Speaker 1>outcome. So</v>

01:46:09.440 --> 01:46:12.400
<v Speaker 1>there's nothing wrong with having these different expressions.</v>

01:46:12.400 --> 01:46:18.400
<v Speaker 1>I wish that there were a significant Lutheran church in Ireland and</v>

01:46:18.400 --> 01:46:23.520
<v Speaker 1>in Spain and in Italy, and I wish that those were respectively</v>

01:46:23.520 --> 01:46:26.560
<v Speaker 1>Irish, Spanish, and Italian, that's how it should be.</v>

01:46:26.560 --> 01:46:26.960
<v Speaker 1>I don't want</v>

01:46:27.840 --> 01:46:32.560
<v Speaker 1>the Irish to take the German Lutheran Church, transplant it into Ireland,</v>

01:46:32.560 --> 01:46:35.520
<v Speaker 1>and then go to church on Sunday and pretend they're German.</v>

01:46:35.520 --> 01:46:36.960
<v Speaker 1>That's absurd.</v>

01:46:36.960 --> 01:46:40.240
<v Speaker 1>I want them to be faithful Christians.</v>

01:46:40.240 --> 01:46:43.440
<v Speaker 1>It happens to be, I believe that is the Lutheran expression of</v>

01:46:43.440 --> 01:46:49.120
<v Speaker 1>Christianity, and so doctrinally and theologically I want them to be essentially</v>

01:46:49.120 --> 01:46:53.440
<v Speaker 1>identical to the Germans, but not with regard to the praxis, because</v>

01:46:53.440 --> 01:46:55.120
<v Speaker 1>I want them to be Irish Christians.</v>

01:46:55.200 --> 01:46:59.280
<v Speaker 1>The same as I want Americans to be American Christians, not French</v>

01:46:59.280 --> 01:47:01.280
<v Speaker 1>Christians, or British Christians.</v>

01:47:01.280 --> 01:47:05.040
<v Speaker 1>We're going to express things in similar ways because those are our</v>

01:47:05.040 --> 01:47:09.520
<v Speaker 1>cousins. But they will be distinct still because they're different from us,</v>

01:47:09.520 --> 01:47:11.600
<v Speaker 1>we're different from them.</v>

01:47:11.600 --> 01:47:16.560
<v Speaker 1>So it's not a LARP to join a Lutheran church because you're</v>

01:47:16.560 --> 01:47:21.200
<v Speaker 1>not joining it because oh it's German or oh it's Nordic, right?</v>

01:47:21.200 --> 01:47:23.760
<v Speaker 1>The Nordics weren't originally Lutheran either.</v>

01:47:23.760 --> 01:47:25.680
<v Speaker 1>Lutheranism had to spread there.</v>

01:47:25.680 --> 01:47:27.920
<v Speaker 1>And you could even think back all the way to the beginnings</v>

01:47:27.920 --> 01:47:33.200
<v Speaker 1>of Christianity in you know Greece and in Rome, right, for us</v>

01:47:33.360 --> 01:47:40.560
<v Speaker 1>Europeans. It didn't start off with the Germans, the Germanics being Christian.</v>

01:47:40.560 --> 01:47:43.600
<v Speaker 1>We had to be re Christianized, and the Celts had to be</v>

01:47:43.600 --> 01:47:46.960
<v Speaker 1>re Christianized, and the Slavs had to be re Christianized.</v>

01:47:46.960 --> 01:47:50.400
<v Speaker 1>In fact, they had to have an alphabet given to them by</v>

01:47:50.400 --> 01:47:53.840
<v Speaker 1>Christians in order to spread the word for them, right?</v>

01:47:54.160 --> 01:47:58.800
<v Speaker 1>So you're not LARPing as a Lutheran.</v>

01:47:58.800 --> 01:48:03.920
<v Speaker 1>You're just being an Irish and Spanish in this case, Lutheran.</v>

01:48:03.920 --> 01:48:07.680
<v Speaker 1>You're being what you are, but adhering to what you have been</v>

01:48:07.680 --> 01:48:12.160
<v Speaker 1>convinced is the actual true statement of the Christian faith.</v>

01:48:12.160 --> 01:48:15.760
<v Speaker 1>So don't pretend you're a German because you're not.</v>

01:48:15.760 --> 01:48:18.000
<v Speaker 1>Don't pretend you're Swedish because you're not.</v>

01:48:18.000 --> 01:48:23.920
<v Speaker 1>But being Lutheran is not inconsistent with being whatever you happen to</v>

01:48:23.920 --> 01:48:26.080
<v Speaker 1>be. This is the same sort of thing that I get to</v>

01:48:26.080 --> 01:48:26.320
<v Speaker 1>explain</v>

01:48:27.200 --> 01:48:31.280
<v Speaker 1>to the ones who will listen anyway, neo pagans and some others,</v>

01:48:31.280 --> 01:48:36.320
<v Speaker 1>right? It's not inconsistent to be a German and a Christian.</v>

01:48:36.320 --> 01:48:40.320
<v Speaker 1>It's not inconsistent to be an American and a Christian.</v>

01:48:40.320 --> 01:48:45.200
<v Speaker 1>The inconsistency would be pretending you're a Jew, which you're not.</v>

01:48:45.200 --> 01:48:46.560
<v Speaker 1>And you know what?</v>

01:48:46.560 --> 01:48:49.520
<v Speaker 1>The one thing that above all certainly destroys a Jew is when</v>

01:48:49.520 --> 01:48:51.520
<v Speaker 1>he becomes a Christian.</v>

01:48:51.520 --> 01:48:55.200
<v Speaker 1>Granted, I don't think that that really happens these days, as some</v>

01:48:55.200 --> 01:48:58.640
<v Speaker 1>of my more recent posts on X certainly indicate.</v>

01:48:58.640 --> 01:49:03.920
<v Speaker 1>But there's nothing wrong with being a member of the denomination, the</v>

01:49:03.920 --> 01:49:09.520
<v Speaker 1>tradition of Christianity that you believe is consonant with scripture, even if</v>

01:49:09.520 --> 01:49:15.120
<v Speaker 1>it is something that has been ethnically something slightly different from you,</v>

01:49:15.120 --> 01:49:19.520
<v Speaker 1>right? And in this case, yes it's different, but it's not a</v>

01:49:19.840 --> 01:49:20.800
<v Speaker 1>world of difference.</v>

01:49:20.800 --> 01:49:23.680
<v Speaker 1>It's not like I'm saying, you know, you're Ugandan and now you</v>

01:49:23.680 --> 01:49:26.640
<v Speaker 1>have to behave exactly like a German and worship exactly like a</v>

01:49:26.640 --> 01:49:29.520
<v Speaker 1>German and build your churches exactly like a Saxon, right?</v>

01:49:29.520 --> 01:49:31.600
<v Speaker 1>That that's absurd.</v>

01:49:31.600 --> 01:49:33.760
<v Speaker 1>So it's not a LARP.</v>

01:49:33.760 --> 01:49:38.000
<v Speaker 1>What you're doing is you are acting out your faith as you</v>

01:49:38.000 --> 01:49:40.480
<v Speaker 1>have been convinced of the truth by the book of Concord, which</v>

01:49:40.480 --> 01:49:42.720
<v Speaker 1>is why I recommend people read it, because you know what, go</v>

01:49:42.720 --> 01:49:43.680
<v Speaker 1>argue with those men.</v>

01:49:43.680 --> 01:49:45.200
<v Speaker 1>Don't believe me, argue with them.</v>

01:49:45.200 --> 01:49:47.920
<v Speaker 1>See if see if what they say agrees with scripture.</v>

01:49:47.920 --> 01:49:49.760
<v Speaker 1>If it doesn't, great.</v>

01:49:49.760 --> 01:49:53.120
<v Speaker 1>If you don't believe it agrees, then find what you think agrees</v>

01:49:53.120 --> 01:49:53.920
<v Speaker 1>with scripture.</v>

01:49:53.920 --> 01:49:57.600
<v Speaker 1>But if you believe it agrees with scripture, then become a Lutheran.</v>

01:49:57.600 --> 01:49:59.840
<v Speaker 1>It may be that you have to have a home church for</v>

01:49:59.840 --> 01:50:04.000
<v Speaker 1>a period of time, and that's true in Lutheran lands, historically Lutheran</v>

01:50:04.000 --> 01:50:07.360
<v Speaker 1>lands, as well as those that have not historically had a Lutheran</v>

01:50:07.360 --> 01:50:10.240
<v Speaker 1>church, because there are so many faithless churches these days.</v>

01:50:10.240 --> 01:50:13.920
<v Speaker 1>And as I've gone over before in other episodes, there's nothing wrong</v>

01:50:13.920 --> 01:50:15.280
<v Speaker 1>with having a home church.</v>

01:50:15.280 --> 01:50:19.200
<v Speaker 1>A home church will many times be the best option around.</v>

01:50:19.200 --> 01:50:21.520
<v Speaker 1>That's how the church started out.</v>

01:50:21.520 --> 01:50:23.120
<v Speaker 1>There's nothing wrong with going back to that.</v>

01:50:23.120 --> 01:50:24.240
<v Speaker 1>It's unfortunate we have to.</v>

01:50:24.240 --> 01:50:26.560
<v Speaker 1>It'd be better if we had the cathedrals still.</v>

01:50:26.560 --> 01:50:30.160
<v Speaker 1>But until they're faithful, it's better to have a small faithful church</v>

01:50:30.160 --> 01:50:32.320
<v Speaker 1>than a large faithless one.</v>

01:50:32.320 --> 01:50:34.800
<v Speaker 1>So no, it's in short not LARPing.</v>

01:50:34.800 --> 01:50:36.400
<v Speaker 1>There's nothing wrong with it.</v>

01:50:36.400 --> 01:50:39.040
<v Speaker 1>Just be an Irish Lutheran.</v>

01:50:39.040 --> 01:50:41.440
<v Speaker 1>I'm an American Lutheran.</v>

01:50:41.440 --> 01:50:46.400
<v Speaker 1>Nothing inconsistent whatsoever.</v>

01:50:46.400 --> 01:50:46.960
<v Speaker 1>So I think that</v>

01:50:47.920 --> 01:50:51.360
<v Speaker 1>is it for this week.</v>

01:50:51.360 --> 01:50:55.520
<v Speaker 1>I will note down any questions I did not get to.</v>

01:50:55.520 --> 01:50:59.520
<v Speaker 1>And as always, if I do not get to your question, if</v>

01:50:59.520 --> 01:51:02.080
<v Speaker 1>you put something in chat or elsewhere.</v>

01:51:02.080 --> 01:51:05.600
<v Speaker 1>I believe this chat is giving me all of my messages, but</v>

01:51:05.600 --> 01:51:06.160
<v Speaker 1>it might not.</v>

01:51:06.160 --> 01:51:09.920
<v Speaker 1>It's a plug-in and you know there's concatenation and things.</v>

01:51:09.920 --> 01:51:11.920
<v Speaker 1>If I have your question.</v>

01:51:12.640 --> 01:51:17.440
<v Speaker 1>I will put it into the growing thread on Omniphora of the</v>

01:51:17.440 --> 01:51:19.280
<v Speaker 1>pending questions that I have.</v>

01:51:19.280 --> 01:51:23.440
<v Speaker 1>If you do not see it there, please go ahead and submit</v>

01:51:23.440 --> 01:51:28.560
<v Speaker 1>your question on Omniphora or you can submit it via Telegram or</v>

01:51:28.560 --> 01:51:31.120
<v Speaker 1>X. I am more likely to notice it on the forum.</v>

01:51:31.120 --> 01:51:32.720
<v Speaker 1>I try to get to those first.</v>

01:51:32.720 --> 01:51:35.120
<v Speaker 1>That's what I went through for the first handful of questions for</v>

01:51:35.120 --> 01:51:37.440
<v Speaker 1>this episode and for previous ones as well.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>That is the preferred way because it is easier for me and</v>

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<v Speaker 1>easier for people in the future to search.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>But that is it for this week.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you for those who submitted the questions and thank you for</v>

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<v Speaker 1>those who listened to the stream always appreciate that and for those</v>

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<v Speaker 1>who listen for audio only if you prefer audio only or you</v>

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<v Speaker 1>just want it for your collection whatever it happens to be maybe</v>

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<v Speaker 1>your digital pack rat if you are so inclined, the audio is</v>

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<v Speaker 1>put out slightly higher quality audio when the recording goes well anyway.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>I try to put that out in the day two, three after</v>

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<v Speaker 1>the episode.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>You can subscribe to that via the RSS feed and on my</v>

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<v Speaker 1>website coreyjmoller.com just click on the podcast link.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>And that will be it for me this week.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>I hope you all have a great weekend and God bless you</v>

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<v Speaker 1>and go to church on Sunday.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>I will see you next week,</v>

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