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<v Speaker 1>It is the 5th of June 2026.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>I am Cory J.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Mahler and this is at any cost.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>This is episode 31, a QA episode.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>I do not have any housekeeping this week, so I will just</v>

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<v Speaker 1>get right into the questions, other than what I already noted in</v>

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<v Speaker 1>the chat, which is that I have to look over here and</v>

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<v Speaker 1>check in a tab for the chat because for some reason OBS</v>

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<v Speaker 1>has decided not to load the chat interface despite trying to reload</v>

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<v Speaker 1>it. So anyway, question one for this week is actually not a</v>

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<v Speaker 1>question so much as a general topic.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>And the reason I'm going to call it a question is just</v>

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<v Speaker 1>so that the transcript will be cleaner and the AI that tags</v>

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<v Speaker 1>things will be able to find it more neatly.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>So question one is abortion and eugenics.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>And what are the Christian positions on these?</v>

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<v Speaker 1>So So</v>

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<v Speaker 1>I think I'll actually start with eugenics instead, because abortion can be</v>

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<v Speaker 1>a form of eugenics, obviously, but it can also be a form</v>

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<v Speaker 1>of dysgenics.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>And in our current system, it's more dysgenic than eugenic, but that's</v>

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<v Speaker 1>sort of tangential to this.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>So the question is, is eugenics permissible for Christians?</v>

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<v Speaker 1>And the answer is simply yes.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>The question is not whether eugenics itself is per se permissible, morally</v>

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<v Speaker 1>permissible. The question is what means are permissible.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Some means are permissible, some means are not.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>And the distinction that I've drawn, and I think the best way</v>

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<v Speaker 1>to think about it, is that active eugenics is morally impermissible and</v>

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<v Speaker 1>passive eugenics is generally morally permissible, or at least there's a question</v>

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<v Speaker 1>there about moral permissibility.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Where there's no question with regard to active eugenics, abortion would be</v>

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<v Speaker 1>active eugenics, euthanasia so called would be active eugenics.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not, of course, necessarily saying that's in all cases because for</v>

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<v Speaker 1>instance I've pointed out there is an exception, say for someone who</v>

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<v Speaker 1>is in extreme pain, you take the</v>

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<v Speaker 1>the most extreme case, right?</v>

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<v Speaker 1>A burn victim.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>That's the one we use because it's the hardest case.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>And if you solve the problem there, you've kind of solved the</v>

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<v Speaker 1>the line drawing issue to some degree.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>So for someone who has severe injuries for whom we can't really</v>

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<v Speaker 1>do anything about the pain.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>We have no hope of curing this person, certainly.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>He's just going to die a painful slow death.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>We can give him enough pain medication that it will wind up</v>

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<v Speaker 1>killing him.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>The goal isn't to kill him.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>The goal is to do as much as we can for the</v>

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<v Speaker 1>pain. So I don't think I would call that euthanasia.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>And if you wanted to call it euthanasia, then it would be</v>

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<v Speaker 1>morally permissible because the intent there matters, right?</v>

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<v Speaker 1>You're not trying to kill the person, you're just doing everything humanly</v>

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<v Speaker 1>possible to deal with an impossible situation.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>But to highlight the kinds of eugenics that are permissible, right?</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Passive eugenics would be everything that doesn't run up to and then</v>

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<v Speaker 1>cross that line of basically killing people, right?</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Homicide is what we're talking about morally impermissible under these circumstances.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>So</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Two forms of passive eugenics we should really talk about that are</v>

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<v Speaker 1>perhaps the most relevant.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>I know I've got over some of this before and I'll probably</v>

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<v Speaker 1>write a longer piece on it in the future because it's an</v>

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<v Speaker 1>issue that keeps coming up and it's been active on X and</v>

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<v Speaker 1>elsewhere for various reasons.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sure some of you listening know why.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>So marriage is one and then the other is sterilization.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Sort of oppos opposite ends of the spectrum, really.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Marriage is a form of eugenics.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>And this is something people don't tend to think about.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>They don't tend to recognize that it is eugenic.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>And so when they hear eugenics, they instantly recoil and think, oh,</v>

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<v Speaker 1>it's a bad thing.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Christians can't do that's bad.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Well no, because Christians are actually commanded to engage in eugenics because</v>

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<v Speaker 1>that's what marriage is.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>And so having laws regarding who can marry whom is eugenic as</v>

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<v Speaker 1>long as the laws are good, disgenic if the laws are bad.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>So we ban, typically speaking, we've allowed it for various reasons, I've</v>

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<v Speaker 1>gone over in previous episodes, the Jews, incidentally.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>We typically ban first cousin marriage.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>That's a eugenic policy.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>We obviously ban incest.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>That's a eugenic policy.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>And so it would also be a eugenic policy to ban interracial</v>

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<v Speaker 1>marriage, because of all the various issues that follow on from that.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>See the stone Choir series on race for more information on that.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>So we have these eugenic policies related to marriage, and Christians don't</v>

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<v Speaker 1>object to those because we recognize they're actually good, they're aligned with</v>

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<v Speaker 1>what God wants for us in this life.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Because we have to recognize sort of the foundational matter, we are</v>

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<v Speaker 1>biological. We're mammals.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>We are living organisms.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>And so we are beholden to certain laws of physics, biology of</v>

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<v Speaker 1>this creation.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>We don't get to ignore them just because we are also soul.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Just because you have a soul because you are a soul doesn't</v>

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<v Speaker 1>mean that you're not also a body.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>You are that sum of those things.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>So the second one, the second form of passive eugenics we're going</v>

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<v Speaker 1>over now is sterilization.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>And I think this is one that makes some Christians uncomfortable for</v>

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<v Speaker 1>various historical and other reasons.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>But it's actually something we engage in all the time, because most</v>

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<v Speaker 1>likely those of you listening currently have pets in your home that</v>

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<v Speaker 1>you have sterilized, or you've taken to have them sterilized, unless you</v>

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<v Speaker 1>happen to live on a farm, then you did it yourself, right?</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Most of us these days don't do that ourselves unless you work</v>

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<v Speaker 1>on a farm.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Then you certainly have done that yourself.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>You sterilized your own animals for eugenic purposes or for various other</v>

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<v Speaker 1>purposes, right?</v>

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<v Speaker 1>For some cases it makes the animal live longer or have fewer</v>

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<v Speaker 1>health problems or things like that.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Fattens them up in some cases for feed animals, things like that.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>The problem that some Christians will have, and I've had this discussion</v>

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<v Speaker 1>with a number of Christians, I think they're wrong, and so I'm</v>

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<v Speaker 1>going to present what I believe, and I think it is consonant</v>

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<v Speaker 1>with scripture.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Go ahead and test what I say against scripture.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>I always encourage you to do that.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think humans are an exception.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>And I think that the fundamental problem there is that when you</v>

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<v Speaker 1>deny that humans are part of this system or should be part</v>

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<v Speaker 1>of this system, you're sort of edging into saying that humans aren't</v>

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<v Speaker 1>really biological, that we aren't really a body.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>You're kind of edging into Gnosticism.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>You're maybe in the gray area there.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>I don't want to be in that gray area.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>So I firmly recognize, I affirm absolutely, human beings are animals in</v>

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<v Speaker 1>a very real sense.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>We're more than that, but we're not more than that in a</v>

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<v Speaker 1>way that separates us totally from totally from the animal kingdom, from</v>

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<v Speaker 1>being mammals and all that, right?</v>

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<v Speaker 1>We not men, but women produce milk, we have body hair, right?</v>

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<v Speaker 1>We're mammals.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>All the classic things.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>So I think that we are also subject to those laws, and</v>

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<v Speaker 1>we can enact those things with regard to other human beings as</v>

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<v Speaker 1>well. And I think that sometimes it's actually the more merciful option,</v>

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<v Speaker 1>because those who say that sterilization is impermissible, well what are they</v>

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<v Speaker 1>going to do about those who have some sort of horrible genetic</v>

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<v Speaker 1>condition that will be passed on, or at least has a very</v>

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<v Speaker 1>high likelihood of being passed on?</v>

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<v Speaker 1>What will they do with those individuals?</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Well they have to tell them, you have to be celibate for</v>

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<v Speaker 1>your entire life, which of course is a problem because celibacy, like</v>

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<v Speaker 1>we've gone over many times, is not something you can choose to</v>

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<v Speaker 1>be. You can choose to be chaste, but good luck with that</v>

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<v Speaker 1>if God didn't give you the gift, right, of celibacy.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>If he gave you celibacy, no problem whatsoever.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Because that's the only way you're going to guarantee they don't pass</v>

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<v Speaker 1>those things on to a future generation.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Unless you're gonna try and pair it all of them off with</v>

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<v Speaker 1>someone who is naturally sterile, right?</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Which seems like a weird way to go about it.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>I think it makes much more sense for those who have these</v>

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<v Speaker 1>terrible conditions.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>We have to care for them.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>I want to be cle very clear about that.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>That's the real core problem here, right?</v>

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<v Speaker 1>You have people who argue for abortion and things like that because</v>

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<v Speaker 1>they don't want to deal with the problem, right?</v>

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<v Speaker 1>The child is going to have Down syndrome is the current controversy</v>

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<v Speaker 1>that's ongoing.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Or whatever something even worse than that, right?</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Whatever disease it happens to be, we have to care for that</v>

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<v Speaker 1>child. Assuming the child survives the pregnancy, the birth, etc., that is</v>

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<v Speaker 1>incumbent on us, that is a moral duty.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>We don't get to just kill people because they're inconvenient or costly.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Now, there's a line somewhere with regard to heroic measures and wise</v>

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<v Speaker 1>use of resources, but you don't get to kill that person.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>That is very clearly crossing a line.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>But I think sterilization is fine, because then you don't pass on</v>

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<v Speaker 1>the problem to future generations.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>You don't continue to make the problem worse.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>And one of the things you can do that is a nice</v>

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<v Speaker 1>aspect of this, a mercy in this, is then you can pair</v>

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<v Speaker 1>off the people who have problems, let them marry, let them live</v>

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<v Speaker 1>as normal of a life as they can, but without passing on</v>

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<v Speaker 1>those problems to future generations.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>I think that is the most moral solution to the problem.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>And I don't think that human beings are exempt from the general</v>

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<v Speaker 1>rules we use to manage populations of other animals and creations.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>We are stewards of creation, we are the pinnacle of that.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>We have control over everything.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>I don't exclude us from that, because I see us as part</v>

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<v Speaker 1>of the system not sitting atop it.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>And I don't know how anyone could think you sit atop it,</v>

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<v Speaker 1>right? You have to drink and eat and sleep and breathe and</v>

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<v Speaker 1>you're very clearly part of this system.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>You're not so extraneous to it or external to it or above</v>

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<v Speaker 1>it that you are separated from it in any meaningful way.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>So I think that sterilization is morally permissible.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>It is a passive form of eugenics.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>And so</v>

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<v Speaker 1>the other part of this that I would want to address, having</v>

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<v Speaker 1>addressed pretty much abortion and eugenics sort of</v>

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<v Speaker 1>essentially right in write in in some, this is obviously a a</v>

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<v Speaker 1>short version of the overall, not going into great detail.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>We went over it more in a few episodes of Stone Choir,</v>

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<v Speaker 1>so you can search the catalogue for that.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>But the one other topic that I want to address before moving</v>

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<v Speaker 1>on to the next question is one that is uncomfortable for a</v>

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<v Speaker 1>lot of people.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>And it is</v>

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<v Speaker 1>very uncomfortable for people because it implicates a lot of people, and</v>

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<v Speaker 1>that includes Christians.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>And that is that hormonal birth control is an abortive facient.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>And so the use of hormonal birth control is morally impermissible, period.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>It is always morally impermissible.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Which is one of the reasons right you have to do sterilization,</v>

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<v Speaker 1>not just birth control.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>There's no option there.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>So</v>

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<v Speaker 1>even calling it birth control is kind of misleading, but you all</v>

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<v Speaker 1>know what I'm talking about.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>The issue with hormonal birth control is that it has a handful</v>

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<v Speaker 1>of different ways that it acts, a handful of different ways that</v>

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<v Speaker 1>it prevents pregnancy.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Some of them are morally permissible, some of them are not.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>And this gets to sort of uh a fundamental issue here, and</v>

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<v Speaker 1>I'll give an illustration just to sort of draw this out.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Say you have a die, right, and you roll it, and</v>

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<v Speaker 1>four of the options result in something.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>We can even abstract this at one more level.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Four options result in something good, right?</v>

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<v Speaker 1>You get a a cupcake or a a coffee or something, whatever.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Each of those four, totally fine.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>One's neutral, one is terrible, one of the outcomes is horrible.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Are you going to roll that having a one in six chance</v>

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<v Speaker 1>of something horrible happening to you?</v>

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<v Speaker 1>I think probably not.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>If you're a wise person you're not going to do it.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>So</v>

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<v Speaker 1>the issue with hormonal birth control, it's not a one in six</v>

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<v Speaker 1>chance, incidentally, it's smaller than that, thankfully.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>But some of the methods that it uses to prevent pregnancy are</v>

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<v Speaker 1>indeed abortion.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>And so it's murder.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Now, the I'm not going to go over the methods here.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>I have them I went over them recently to remind myself, but</v>

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think I need to go over them because I'll save</v>

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<v Speaker 1>that for maybe a a longer piece of writing, but the ones</v>

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<v Speaker 1>that are the real problem, there's really two main ones that are</v>

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<v Speaker 1>a problem with regard to being abortifacient, and I'll just go over</v>

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<v Speaker 1>those. One is that it thins and causes atrophy of the endometrial</v>

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<v Speaker 1>lining and that results in lower odds of implantation.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Well once you're talking of implantation, right, it's a zygote.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>It's already a person, unique DNA and all that.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>And prior to that, it also</v>

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<v Speaker 1>has a negative effect on the peristalsis in the fallopian tube, which</v>

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<v Speaker 1>can impact both the ovum, so pre-fertilization, and the zygote post fertilization,</v>

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<v Speaker 1>if it happens with the zygote, it is also preventing implantation, which</v>

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<v Speaker 1>is again a abortifacient, right?</v>

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<v Speaker 1>So the uncomfortable truth is that anyone who has</v>

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<v Speaker 1>used hormonal birth control, and that includes the men who have had</v>

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<v Speaker 1>sexual relations with women who were on that pill, you have engaged</v>

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<v Speaker 1>in behavior that is tantamount to murder.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Now, it is not at the exact same level as murder, obviously,</v>

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<v Speaker 1>because there's intent and some other things there, but if you risk</v>

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<v Speaker 1>an outcome, you are morally culpable for the outcome.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>So risking the outcome that is equivalent to murder is indeed to</v>

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<v Speaker 1>be morally culpable for murder.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>This obviously makes many uncomfortable because this is something that is very</v>

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<v Speaker 1>widespread in our culture.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>And</v>

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<v Speaker 1>the numbers are quite frankly staggering.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>I won't go over them right now, save them for an article,</v>

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<v Speaker 1>but that is an issue that the church has been negligent in</v>

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<v Speaker 1>addressing. We need to be stronger on that issue because we are,</v>

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<v Speaker 1>as a society, committing infanticide on a scale that is incomprehensible.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Question two is a little bit of a change of pace.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>I</v>

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<v Speaker 1>recently began to shift my thinking on enemies and allies thanks to</v>

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<v Speaker 1>processing the work done by you and Wo.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Previously my lines were such that someone who is actively not a</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Christian couldn't be really an ally even if some aims were shared.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Now I see how someone like mister Taylor, though I believe agnostic,</v>

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<v Speaker 1>may actually be a better ally than most Christians, especially most pastors.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Your thoughts on this, please.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>So first I'll use the specific example of Jared Taylor.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Jared Taylor is good on many things, he's bad on the issue</v>

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<v Speaker 1>of the Jews.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>It is what it is.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>He's done good work.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>He's still doing good work.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>He's a nice man.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>He's a good man and holds a conference not too far away</v>

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<v Speaker 1>from here.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>But he is not good on the issue of the Jews.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>So there are some men who are bad on one specific issue</v>

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<v Speaker 1>and good on a lot of other stuff, and it it's just</v>

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<v Speaker 1>how it goes.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>I can think of some other examples as well.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Some I've spoken with recently, and they're just bad on certain issues</v>

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<v Speaker 1>but good on others.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>That's his Achilles' heel, as it were.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>But the more general issue, can we work with those who are</v>

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<v Speaker 1>not staunch Christians?</v>

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<v Speaker 1>The answer is yes.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Now, ultimately, what form things should take in the end stage, assuming</v>

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<v Speaker 1>God gives us the victory, right, those men will have to make</v>

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<v Speaker 1>a choice, right?</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Leave or become Christian because we owe that to God.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>You cannot permit false religions to stay in your lands.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>That is an affront to God.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>That is one of the reasons God so frequently destroyed Old Testament</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Israel because they permitted that.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>If you permit false religion, if you permit the worship of false</v>

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<v Speaker 1>gods in your lands, you are cursed by God, or at least</v>

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<v Speaker 1>you are inviting God's curse.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>And God will give you what you want in that case, and</v>

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<v Speaker 1>that should be not what we want.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>So can we work with those men?</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, but eventually they're going to have to make a choice.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>And I think for many of them it will be a relatively</v>

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<v Speaker 1>easy choice.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>if it's made from a position where the church has been restored</v>

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<v Speaker 1>to teaching true Christianity and is again masculine, assertive and things like</v>

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<v Speaker 1>that, instead of the corrupt decadent churches we have today.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Question three Praying for Christ's return I know we are not to</v>

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<v Speaker 1>worry too much about the end times and that we should live</v>

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<v Speaker 1>each day as if Christ were returning tomorrow.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Are Christians allowed to pray for Christ's swift return to end the</v>

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<v Speaker 1>fallen world and all of the horrible things going on?</v>

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<v Speaker 1>I think there are really two answers for this.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>The first answer and sort of the the core answer is yes,</v>

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<v Speaker 1>obviously, because we pray for it every day.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Thy kingdom come.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>We pray for it multiple times a day, depending on how often</v>

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<v Speaker 1>you pray the Lord's Prayer, right?</v>

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<v Speaker 1>If you pray it before every meal and when you wake up</v>

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<v Speaker 1>and when you go to sleep, then you're praying it at least</v>

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<v Speaker 1>a handful of days, a few times a day, right?</v>

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<v Speaker 1>You are praying for Christ's return when you pray thy kingdom come.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>So obviously it's fine.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>God taught us to do it.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>it's the prayer the church is used all along for thousands of</v>

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<v Speaker 1>years. It's practically the prayer of the church, so yes.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>But I would add the caveat that don't make praying for Christ's</v>

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<v Speaker 1>second coming don't make that sort of focus your core aspect of</v>

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<v Speaker 1>how you pray and your prayer life and how you look at</v>

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<v Speaker 1>the Christian faith, right?</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Because there are many passages about</v>

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<v Speaker 1>you know the troubles of the day being sufficient for that day,</v>

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<v Speaker 1>things like that.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>So focus on your tasks at hand, what you have to do</v>

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<v Speaker 1>with the day as it stands, with an appropriate level of planning</v>

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<v Speaker 1>for the future, right?</v>

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<v Speaker 1>We're not living purely in the present.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>That's something for those with an IQ under 80.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>So</v>

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<v Speaker 1>focus on the tasks at hand with appropriate planning, but don't make</v>

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<v Speaker 1>an obsession with regard to the end times or eschatology, anything even</v>

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<v Speaker 1>approaching the core or the majority of your faith or your prayer</v>

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<v Speaker 1>life. But of course, it is entirely fine to pray for the</v>

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<v Speaker 1>second coming, the return of Christ, and the end of the wickedness</v>

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<v Speaker 1>of the world and a restoration of those things.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>But obviously that will happen in God's timing regardless of how you</v>

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<v Speaker 1>pray. But there's nothing wrong with praying for that.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>And certainly we all do every day.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Let's See the next question.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Question four, making sense of the timelines.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>How do you as a Christian make sense of the timelines archaeologists</v>

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<v Speaker 1>and paleontologists propose?</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Is there a conversion formula?</v>

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<v Speaker 1>I know creation is approximately seven thousand five hundred and fifty years</v>

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<v Speaker 1>old, but I don't know how to account for the claims of</v>

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<v Speaker 1>twelve thousand year old human settlements without assuming they somehow survived the</v>

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<v Speaker 1>flood. So artifacts and things could survive the flood, first off, that's</v>

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<v Speaker 1>there's nothing preventing that, right?</v>

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<v Speaker 1>The flood didn't dis you know completely efface and atomize everything.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Some things did survive indeed.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>No human civilization survived the flood, because all the humans died, but</v>

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<v Speaker 1>artifacts could certainly survive, just like all the sea creatures survived, right?</v>

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<v Speaker 1>The fish didn't drown.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>There's a reason Noah didn't take all the sea creatures onto the</v>

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<v Speaker 1>ark. God took care of that on his own.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>But the the core answer here really is</v>

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<v Speaker 1>that</v>

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<v Speaker 1>radiometric dating is fraught with errors.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>It is completely unreliable.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>And this has been demonstrated time and time again where they date</v>

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<v Speaker 1>things that are known to be extremely young and they date them</v>

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<v Speaker 1>really old, or things that are taken from the exact same site,</v>

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<v Speaker 1>even the same piece of something sometimes, and dated to wildly different</v>

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<v Speaker 1>dates. This happens all the time.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>There are too many assumptions that go into radiometric dating and radiocarbon</v>

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<v Speaker 1>is usually we're talking about for things that are this young.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>There are too many assumptions that go into it for it to</v>

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<v Speaker 1>be reliable.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>And all the times it's been demonstrated not to be reliable.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>We went into this in greater detail in the episode on the</v>

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<v Speaker 1>age of the earth.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Now for that we were using the Masoritic Timeline and now obviously</v>

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<v Speaker 1>we would say that it is the Septuagint timeline you should use.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>But it ultimately doesn't matter what years, and we've mentioned this as</v>

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<v Speaker 1>well, because it's the arguments that matter in that episode, not the</v>

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<v Speaker 1>specific dates, right?</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Because if you're talking a difference of a handful of thousands of</v>

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<v Speaker 1>years, that's not the same problem as someone's t telling you billions</v>

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<v Speaker 1>or millions or whatever it happens to be.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Now, it's worth mentioning here, and I'll mention it because you know</v>

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<v Speaker 1>not everyone has necessarily read the article.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>I'll see if I can pull that up here.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>I have an article on this on my site.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Let me figure out where Brave is gone on my computer here.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>And</v>

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<v Speaker 1>there is a way to explain the difference in how old the</v>

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<v Speaker 1>earth is versus how old it appears to be, right?</v>

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<v Speaker 1>And there we go It's this article here, geochronologically speaking.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>And so the age of the earth is both young and old.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>And the explanation for that is very easy typically for the sort</v>

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<v Speaker 1>of men who are listening to me on this sort of platform</v>

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<v Speaker 1>because most of you have probably played a civilization building game, right?</v>

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<v Speaker 1>And when you if you're playing civilization, for instance, you can choose</v>

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<v Speaker 1>the age of the planet when you spin up your new world.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Is it that old?</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Well yes, in a sense.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>But no, in the sense of if you're talking about tracing back</v>

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<v Speaker 1>the timeline, right?</v>

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<v Speaker 1>It's seconds old versus how old it appears to be.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>God made the earth and the entire universe old because that's what</v>

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<v Speaker 1>he wanted to do.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>And the best way you can look at this for sort of</v>

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<v Speaker 1>a microcosm, an easy example in scripture, he didn't place Adam in</v>

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<v Speaker 1>the garden as an infant, or you know, a zygote, right?</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Immediately after he would have been conceived in the way that God</v>

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<v Speaker 1>created anyway.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>He was a full grown adult.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Because God made him a full grown adult.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>So how old was he when he was placed in the garden?</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Well, he was zero but also whatever age he was when God</v>

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<v Speaker 1>made him, whether it's a hundred or the timeline lines up very</v>

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<v Speaker 1>neatly if you assume certain ages, like seventy, but he was a</v>

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<v Speaker 1>full grown, mature adult man in the garden, despite being, chronologically in</v>

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<v Speaker 1>a sense, zero years old.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>So</v>

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<v Speaker 1>th the real answer is that the scientists are simply trying to</v>

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<v Speaker 1>erase God and they're doing it with tools that are not reliable.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>So you can just ignore them.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, in some fields, obviously, that's going to make things more difficult</v>

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<v Speaker 1>for you, particularly if you're working in, say, archaeology.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>But there are Christians working in those fields.</v>

00:23:41.520 --> 00:23:43.200
<v Speaker 1>Christians started those fields.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>They didn't find any problems with their belief in scripture, literal belief</v>

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<v Speaker 1>in scripture, and the work they were doing.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>So there's no reason to believe these things were as old as</v>

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<v Speaker 1>the archaeologists and the paleontologists claim.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>They're just not.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>We don't have the tools to make those judgment calls.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>It would be nice if we did.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>I would it would be great if radiocarbon dating were actually reliable</v>

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<v Speaker 1>and we could simply look at it and say this is exactly</v>

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<v Speaker 1>how old this thing is because we tested it and it showed</v>

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<v Speaker 1>that old.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>But it's not.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>We don't have those tools.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think we ever will.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think there's a conceivable way, given the limitations of physics</v>

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<v Speaker 1>and our current environment universe really, to actually create tools to test</v>

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<v Speaker 1>the age of things in that way.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>At the absolute best, maybe you could test a parent age, but</v>

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<v Speaker 1>even that I think is very dicey, which is shown by the</v>

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<v Speaker 1>fact that we have these instances where radiometric dating is used and</v>

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<v Speaker 1>it gives numbers we know are wrong, right?</v>

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<v Speaker 1>When you test a chicken carcass that you know you put in</v>

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<v Speaker 1>your backyard five years ago and it says it's five thousand years</v>

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<v Speaker 1>old, you know the tool made an error.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>You know it's wrong, and so you know it's not foolproof, and</v>

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<v Speaker 1>perhaps not even error proof, which is what I would say it's</v>

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<v Speaker 1>not. The next question, question five here Here.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Do you hold a cyclical view of history?</v>

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<v Speaker 1>If so, and we are in a civilizational winter, is there any</v>

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<v Speaker 1>way for us today to return to something like medieval or reformation</v>

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<v Speaker 1>era Christendom, summer or autumn, without going through the decay of winter</v>

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<v Speaker 1>and the violence of spring.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know that I would say I subscribe to a truly</v>

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<v Speaker 1>cyclical view of history, but at the same time, I wouldn't say</v>

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<v Speaker 1>my view is entirely not cyclical view of history, right?</v>

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<v Speaker 1>I think perhaps the way to look at it is I don't</v>

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<v Speaker 1>know who originally said it, it's usually attributed to Mark Twain and</v>

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<v Speaker 1>others, but it's one of those quotes, right?</v>

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<v Speaker 1>History may not repeat but it rhymes.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>I think that's probably closer to the truth.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>And the reason for that is pretty simple.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Human beings are human beings.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>We are going to behave in certain ways and do certain things</v>

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<v Speaker 1>because we are that way.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>And so you're going to see rise and fall.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>You're going to see these cycles.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>You see it in the Old Testament, right?</v>

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<v Speaker 1>You get everything so often, fairly rare in the case of the</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Jews, but a faithful ruler rises up, and then maybe his son</v>

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<v Speaker 1>is faithful, and then you get less faithful and less and less</v>

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<v Speaker 1>and less and then apostate, right?</v>

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<v Speaker 1>That's sort of how things go.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>That happens also with regard to the secular as it were with</v>

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<v Speaker 1>the rise and fall of empires, but if you look back through</v>

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<v Speaker 1>history, it's not like you can predict it exactly like a hundred</v>

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<v Speaker 1>years this happens, and the next hundred years this happens.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>The Greek empires, the Roman Empire, these various empires down through history,</v>

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<v Speaker 1>the Persians, didn't last the same number of years.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Some lasted significantly longer, some lasted significantly shorter periods of time.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>they had similarities in why they fell, but not i it's not</v>

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<v Speaker 1>exact across those empires, so I think it's closer to say that</v>

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<v Speaker 1>it rhymes, right?</v>

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<v Speaker 1>But with regard to our current civilization, no, I don't think that</v>

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<v Speaker 1>we have to go through some sort of deep desperate I don't</v>

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<v Speaker 1>even think we can, honestly.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>But I don't think we have to go through some sort of</v>

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<v Speaker 1>deep and desperate and terrible winter and then the necessary process of</v>

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<v Speaker 1>indeed violent rebirth that happens in the spring in this sort of</v>

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<v Speaker 1>system. I don't think you have to do that.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think it has to follow this pattern.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>I think that you can skip seasons as it were.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>And I think we see instances of that happening in history where</v>

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<v Speaker 1>you'll have some civilization where it's starting to decay and then it</v>

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<v Speaker 1>resurges. Or where it's fallen into the winter stage and resurges without</v>

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<v Speaker 1>that necessarily in this outlook violent spring, right?</v>

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<v Speaker 1>I think that we don't even have the option, sort of speaking</v>

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<v Speaker 1>in more concrete terms in our case, I don't think we have</v>

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<v Speaker 1>the option of that winter and then the spring resurgence.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>I think we have to win, or the outcome will be truly</v>

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<v Speaker 1>catastrophic. So I don't think that sort of cycle is even an</v>

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<v Speaker 1>option for us, even if you assume that it is how things</v>

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<v Speaker 1>actually function.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Question six is about adoption.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>How do you feel about white families that adopt third world children</v>

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<v Speaker 1>and bring them into their nation and family?</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Would you feel the same way with white families adopting white children?</v>

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<v Speaker 1>So I'll answer these in reverse order.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Adoption is fine.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>There's nothing wrong with adoption and it is a very good way</v>

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<v Speaker 1>to solve some a problems that are just part of being human,</v>

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<v Speaker 1>right? Sometimes parents die, and that's most obvious example.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>You have to do something with the children.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>I think that adoption is generally better than just making them wards</v>

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<v Speaker 1>of the state, which is sort of the only other option, morally</v>

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<v Speaker 1>permissible option, right?</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Some ancient civilizations would have done other things.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>As far as cross-racial adoption is concerned, I think at the absolute</v>

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<v Speaker 1>best is foolish.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>And usually it is worse than that.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Usually it is pernicious, even malicious.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>The reason you shouldn't do it is that ultimately you're doing is</v>

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<v Speaker 1>you're stealing that child away from his or her culture, removing the</v>

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<v Speaker 1>child from what should be his patrimony, and taking him to an</v>

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<v Speaker 1>alien land and then parading him around like a trophy.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>They always do that.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>And you can see in their behavior that clearly they're doing it</v>

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<v Speaker 1>for the show.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>They're doing it for the good boy points.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>They're not doing it because they actually believe they're doing a good</v>

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<v Speaker 1>thing, by and large.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not saying there are no exceptions to that.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>So, no, you should adopt within your own nation.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>And also, there are plenty of children who need to be adopted.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>It's not even an issue that should be discussed because if you</v>

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<v Speaker 1>had absolutely no orphans in your society, every single child had a</v>

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<v Speaker 1>good home and then maybe you could start talking about okay, what</v>

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<v Speaker 1>do we do with helping our neighbor across the way, right across</v>

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<v Speaker 1>the border, across the ocean, whatever it happens to be?</v>

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<v Speaker 1>We're not in that position.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>We won't be in that position anytime in the foreseeable future.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>And so as long as there are children to be adopted in</v>

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<v Speaker 1>your own nation, you absolutely must preference them.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Because again, it's those concentric circles of concern, right?</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Those who are closest to you God has placed closest to you.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>You owe them a higher duty.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>So you can't decide, oh, I just want to go over here</v>

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<v Speaker 1>and help these alien children and then ignore all these children who</v>

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<v Speaker 1>are actually my own flesh and blood.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>You can't do that.</v>

00:30:38.320 --> 00:30:40.160
<v Speaker 1>that's immoral, it's anti Christian.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>It is a wicked thing to do.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>So adoption is just fine.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Adoption's a good thing, but don't adopt children from random countries around</v>

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<v Speaker 1>the world and then bring them here.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>You're just causing problems for everyone in order to say, look at</v>

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<v Speaker 1>how good I am, which is demonstrating you're not good at all.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Going to look through the chat here, make sure I don't miss</v>

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<v Speaker 1>any questions.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Let me see.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Okay. I question seven.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>I am really trying to embrace traditional Christian morality, but having immense</v>

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<v Speaker 1>trouble with Deuteronomy twenty two twenty eight, and cannot help but think</v>

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<v Speaker 1>this command is incompatible with Western morality.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Okay. So I'm going to copy the question first so I don't</v>

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<v Speaker 1>lose that and then I will pull up logos here.</v>

00:31:41.520 --> 00:31:45.840
<v Speaker 1>Probably helps that we have scripture instead of the confessions.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Hey, it opened Deuteronomy for me, that's nice.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>But if someone finds the girl, the virgin who is not engaged,</v>

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<v Speaker 1>and after he forces her, lies with her and he is discovered.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>The man who lay with her shall give her fifty silver to</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Drachmas to the young woman's father, not to her to the father,</v>

00:32:03.360 --> 00:32:06.560
<v Speaker 1>and she shall become his wife, because he humbled her he shall</v>

00:32:06.560 --> 00:32:10.400
<v Speaker 1>not be able to send her away for all the time.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>And let's look at I'm not going to go into the the</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Greek right now.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>I would do that usually if I were studying this of my</v>

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<v Speaker 1>own, but for the sake of the the episode I'm not going</v>

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<v Speaker 1>to take the time to do that.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not fluent in Greek, so it actually would take me a</v>

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<v Speaker 1>little time to do that.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Let's see.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>So So</v>

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<v Speaker 1>well, twenty-two, not twenty-eight.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Okay. Okay.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>So it's essentially the same in it's good to compare the nets</v>

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<v Speaker 1>and the lexin because sometimes nets picks weird archaic terms that don't</v>

00:32:48.880 --> 00:32:49.760
<v Speaker 1>make any sense.</v>

00:32:49.920 --> 00:32:54.080
<v Speaker 1>Quite frankly, some of their translation decisions are bewildering.</v>

00:32:54.080 --> 00:32:59.520
<v Speaker 1>They'll leave things untranslated, just basically transliterated into English from the Greek,</v>

00:32:59.520 --> 00:33:02.640
<v Speaker 1>and I've had to look some terms up because they weren't English</v>

00:33:02.640 --> 00:33:05.600
<v Speaker 1>words. But at this case we don't have that.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>So the question is basically one about sexual morality and things like</v>

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<v Speaker 1>that. And I would start off by saying these are not binding</v>

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<v Speaker 1>laws on us.</v>

00:33:16.720 --> 00:33:21.760
<v Speaker 1>This is civil law for Old Testament Israel, not binding on us.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>So we can take these things to be sort of a recommendation.</v>

00:33:26.320 --> 00:33:31.120
<v Speaker 1>We can take them into consideration when drafting our laws, but we're</v>

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<v Speaker 1>not beholden to them.</v>

00:33:32.480 --> 00:33:35.360
<v Speaker 1>We're beholden to the moral law and that's it.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>The moral law, the Ten Commandments, this times where God says something</v>

00:33:38.640 --> 00:33:42.240
<v Speaker 1>is an abomination to him him, not an abomination to the Old</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Testament Israelites.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>I've made that distinction before, so that's I won't go over it</v>

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<v Speaker 1>again here.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>This is civil law, different thing.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>And the ceremonial law is the third type of law also not</v>

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<v Speaker 1>binding on us, we don't have to do temple sacrifices and we</v>

00:33:56.320 --> 00:33:58.880
<v Speaker 1>don't have to, you know, throw the blood of goats on an</v>

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<v Speaker 1>altar, sort of thing.</v>

00:34:00.240 --> 00:34:02.640
<v Speaker 1>Christ, once and for all, done.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>So no third temple, the Jews should stop trying to do that.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Tangential topic for another time.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>But the question is, right, this seems uncomfortable because this is a</v>

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<v Speaker 1>man who is overpowering a woman and lying with her and you</v>

00:34:19.200 --> 00:34:23.200
<v Speaker 1>know You know, he has to pay the bride price and then</v>

00:34:23.200 --> 00:34:24.560
<v Speaker 1>gets to marry her.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>That seems uncomfortable to Western morality.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>In part, yes, it certainly is.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>This is a different culture.</v>

00:34:30.320 --> 00:34:32.960
<v Speaker 1>Shemites are very different from Japhethites.</v>

00:34:32.960 --> 00:34:36.080
<v Speaker 1>The Middle Easterners and the Near Easterners are not the same as</v>

00:34:36.080 --> 00:34:36.880
<v Speaker 1>we are.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>So this is civil law for them, not for us.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>But there's more to that, to this verse that unless you are</v>

00:34:44.880 --> 00:34:47.520
<v Speaker 1>f very familiar with the Old Testament, you're going to miss some</v>

00:34:47.520 --> 00:34:49.120
<v Speaker 1>of the things here.</v>

00:34:49.120 --> 00:34:53.520
<v Speaker 1>One, the father has a veto with regard to marriage.</v>

00:34:53.520 --> 00:34:57.520
<v Speaker 1>So if the father says no, the woman doesn't have to marry</v>

00:34:57.520 --> 00:34:58.480
<v Speaker 1>this man.</v>

00:34:58.480 --> 00:35:02.640
<v Speaker 1>So if the father is accepting the bride price, the father's saying</v>

00:35:02.880 --> 00:35:06.800
<v Speaker 1>this is not actually a bad man, you know, maybe there is</v>

00:35:06.800 --> 00:35:10.240
<v Speaker 1>some sort of untoward stuff going on here, but this is not</v>

00:35:10.240 --> 00:35:13.440
<v Speaker 1>necessarily speaking about violent stranger rape.</v>

00:35:13.440 --> 00:35:16.720
<v Speaker 1>There are other things in between, right?</v>

00:35:16.720 --> 00:35:19.840
<v Speaker 1>There's sort of extremes here we're dealing with with spectrum.</v>

00:35:19.840 --> 00:35:23.280
<v Speaker 1>That's at one end, it's what Western ears hear when reading this,</v>

00:35:23.280 --> 00:35:27.360
<v Speaker 1>and then obviously, you know, there's fully proper marriage and all that</v>

00:35:27.520 --> 00:35:28.640
<v Speaker 1>at the other end of the spectrum.</v>

00:35:28.640 --> 00:35:30.080
<v Speaker 1>And then there's a lot of stuff in between.</v>

00:35:30.080 --> 00:35:31.920
<v Speaker 1>There's a lot of gray area.</v>

00:35:31.920 --> 00:35:34.960
<v Speaker 1>Don't find yourself in the gray area if you can avoid it,</v>

00:35:34.960 --> 00:35:36.880
<v Speaker 1>and you should be able to avoid it.</v>

00:35:36.880 --> 00:35:39.840
<v Speaker 1>But part of the other problem is here, right?</v>

00:35:39.840 --> 00:35:41.680
<v Speaker 1>Finds the girl.</v>

00:35:41.680 --> 00:35:44.560
<v Speaker 1>This is speaking about a woman who is off doing something she</v>

00:35:44.560 --> 00:35:47.280
<v Speaker 1>shouldn't somewhere she shouldn't be, typically.</v>

00:35:47.280 --> 00:35:49.840
<v Speaker 1>Maybe not in all cases, but this is a woman who's off</v>

00:35:49.840 --> 00:35:50.640
<v Speaker 1>wandering around, right?</v>

00:35:50.640 --> 00:35:54.000
<v Speaker 1>You can think of the instance in the Old Testament where one</v>

00:35:54.000 --> 00:35:57.280
<v Speaker 1>of the the Deborah, right?</v>

00:35:57.280 --> 00:36:00.960
<v Speaker 1>Or Dina, rather, sorry, Dinah, the the rape of Dina.</v>

00:36:00.960 --> 00:36:04.800
<v Speaker 1>It's not necessarily what we would call rape in modern terms.</v>

00:36:04.800 --> 00:36:09.200
<v Speaker 1>She was off acting like an unsupervised woman and in that culture</v>

00:36:09.360 --> 00:36:14.240
<v Speaker 1>that implies certain things in availability, which again, different culture from us,</v>

00:36:14.240 --> 00:36:17.760
<v Speaker 1>not what would happen in Western culture, not what should happen to</v>

00:36:17.760 --> 00:36:21.520
<v Speaker 1>my understanding, how I believe things should be.</v>

00:36:21.520 --> 00:36:23.120
<v Speaker 1>But I'm a European.</v>

00:36:23.120 --> 00:36:25.200
<v Speaker 1>I'm not a Shemite.</v>

00:36:25.200 --> 00:36:30.000
<v Speaker 1>So what happened there was not what we would call under our</v>

00:36:30.560 --> 00:36:32.240
<v Speaker 1>laws rape.</v>

00:36:32.240 --> 00:36:37.440
<v Speaker 1>It was something less than that, perhaps something still inappropriate, not something</v>

00:36:37.440 --> 00:36:40.720
<v Speaker 1>we would condone, but not something that we would punish with sort</v>

00:36:40.720 --> 00:36:43.680
<v Speaker 1>of the full force of the law for rape.</v>

00:36:43.680 --> 00:36:44.960
<v Speaker 1>Different thing.</v>

00:36:44.960 --> 00:36:48.400
<v Speaker 1>Same sort of thing is in view here in large part.</v>

00:36:48.400 --> 00:36:51.920
<v Speaker 1>So, because there are other parts of scripture, right, that deal with</v>

00:36:51.920 --> 00:36:53.280
<v Speaker 1>punishing rapists.</v>

00:36:53.280 --> 00:36:55.280
<v Speaker 1>There are other parts of scripture that deal with those.</v>

00:36:55.280 --> 00:36:59.120
<v Speaker 1>So if you have parts of scripture dealing with that, this one's</v>

00:36:59.120 --> 00:37:00.800
<v Speaker 1>not dealing with the exact same thing.</v>

00:37:00.800 --> 00:37:03.600
<v Speaker 1>It's dealing with a different thing, which is why he's paying a</v>

00:37:03.600 --> 00:37:08.080
<v Speaker 1>bride price instead of, you know, being stoned or something like that.</v>

00:37:08.080 --> 00:37:10.480
<v Speaker 1>And why, again, the father has the veto.</v>

00:37:10.480 --> 00:37:12.960
<v Speaker 1>The father is the one who's signing off on this and saying,</v>

00:37:12.960 --> 00:37:15.520
<v Speaker 1>No, this man is actually fine for my daughter.</v>

00:37:15.520 --> 00:37:17.120
<v Speaker 1>Which is how it's supposed to be.</v>

00:37:17.120 --> 00:37:19.200
<v Speaker 1>That we should actually have in our society.</v>

00:37:19.200 --> 00:37:20.640
<v Speaker 1>The father should have a veto.</v>

00:37:20.640 --> 00:37:23.600
<v Speaker 1>The father that's we should go back to the traditional way where</v>

00:37:23.600 --> 00:37:26.800
<v Speaker 1>you ask a woman's father if you can marry her.</v>

00:37:26.800 --> 00:37:29.360
<v Speaker 1>Because he's the one who gives her away, because he is her</v>

00:37:29.360 --> 00:37:31.760
<v Speaker 1>head, he's the one who has that control.</v>

00:37:31.760 --> 00:37:33.360
<v Speaker 1>Scripture is recognizing that.</v>

00:37:33.360 --> 00:37:38.080
<v Speaker 1>So the basic sort of the bottom line point here for Western</v>

00:37:38.080 --> 00:37:42.960
<v Speaker 1>Christians, civil law not binding on us, different culture, not what we</v>

00:37:42.960 --> 00:37:46.240
<v Speaker 1>would call violent stranger rape, something less than that, something we would</v>

00:37:46.240 --> 00:37:50.640
<v Speaker 1>still consider inappropriate and probably punish in our society, and we're free</v>

00:37:50.640 --> 00:37:51.600
<v Speaker 1>to do that.</v>

00:37:51.600 --> 00:37:54.320
<v Speaker 1>Because this is not binding on us, our laws don't have to</v>

00:37:54.320 --> 00:37:55.200
<v Speaker 1>mirror this</v>

00:38:06.720 --> 00:38:12.400
<v Speaker 1>So someone has a follow-up question that is also from Deuteronomy 22,</v>

00:38:12.400 --> 00:38:16.560
<v Speaker 1>this time twenty-two thirteen through nineteen, the virginity test.</v>

00:38:16.560 --> 00:38:20.240
<v Speaker 1>I will copy the question here.</v>

00:38:20.240 --> 00:38:23.120
<v Speaker 1>I guess a similar vein to Stephen's question, the one who asked</v>

00:38:23.120 --> 00:38:27.440
<v Speaker 1>the previous question, the rather unreliable bleeding virginity test in Deuteronomy twenty</v>

00:38:27.440 --> 00:38:31.280
<v Speaker 1>two thirteen through nineteen is so third world coded and common there,</v>

00:38:31.280 --> 00:38:32.160
<v Speaker 1>that's true.</v>

00:38:32.160 --> 00:38:34.880
<v Speaker 1>How do you approach God commanding this?</v>

00:38:35.200 --> 00:38:40.640
<v Speaker 1>So the test is not actually particularly unreliable.</v>

00:38:40.640 --> 00:38:44.080
<v Speaker 1>It can be unreliable under certain conditions.</v>

00:38:44.080 --> 00:38:46.960
<v Speaker 1>The one that there's there's certain things that are always brought up.</v>

00:38:46.960 --> 00:38:51.440
<v Speaker 1>Like if a woman engages in certain sports, horseback riding, for instance,</v>

00:38:51.440 --> 00:38:55.040
<v Speaker 1>things like that, you can tear the hymen, right, and then bleeding</v>

00:38:55.040 --> 00:38:58.800
<v Speaker 1>doesn't necessarily occur during first intercourse on her wedding night.</v>

00:38:58.800 --> 00:38:59.680
<v Speaker 1>That is possible.</v>

00:38:59.680 --> 00:39:00.800
<v Speaker 1>That absolutely happens.</v>

00:39:00.800 --> 00:39:01.920
<v Speaker 1>There are cases like that.</v>

00:39:01.920 --> 00:39:04.640
<v Speaker 1>Or there's just differences in biology, right?</v>

00:39:05.280 --> 00:39:07.600
<v Speaker 1>But I'll read the passage here.</v>

00:39:07.600 --> 00:39:10.960
<v Speaker 1>It's thir just thirteen through nineteen, so just this paragraph here.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Now if anyone takes a woman and cohabits with her and hates</v>

00:39:13.840 --> 00:39:17.200
<v Speaker 1>her and places upon her specious charges and brings upon her an</v>

00:39:17.200 --> 00:39:20.240
<v Speaker 1>evil name and says, I have taken this woman, but when I</v>

00:39:20.240 --> 00:39:23.440
<v Speaker 1>had approached her I failed to find proofs of her virginity.</v>

00:39:23.440 --> 00:39:26.320
<v Speaker 1>Then the father of the girl and her mother, having taken them,</v>

00:39:26.320 --> 00:39:28.880
<v Speaker 1>shall bring the proofs of the girl's virginity to the council of</v>

00:39:28.880 --> 00:39:31.600
<v Speaker 1>elders at the gate, and the father of the girl shall say</v>

00:39:31.600 --> 00:39:34.720
<v Speaker 1>to the council of elders, I gave this my daughter to this</v>

00:39:34.720 --> 00:39:38.320
<v Speaker 1>man for a wife, but hating her, he is now placing specious</v>

00:39:38.320 --> 00:39:42.000
<v Speaker 1>charges against her, saying, I failed to find in your daughter proofs</v>

00:39:42.000 --> 00:39:42.960
<v Speaker 1>of virginity.</v>

00:39:42.960 --> 00:39:46.160
<v Speaker 1>But these are the proofs of my daughter's virginity, and they shall</v>

00:39:46.160 --> 00:39:48.880
<v Speaker 1>spread out the garment before the council of elders of the city,</v>

00:39:48.880 --> 00:39:51.600
<v Speaker 1>and the council of elders of that city shall take that man</v>

00:39:51.600 --> 00:39:55.120
<v Speaker 1>and discipline him, and they shall fine him one hundred shekels, and</v>

00:39:55.120 --> 00:39:57.280
<v Speaker 1>they shall give them to the young woman's father because he cast</v>

00:39:57.280 --> 00:40:01.280
<v Speaker 1>an evil name upon an Israelite virgin, and she shall be his</v>

00:40:01.280 --> 00:40:03.920
<v Speaker 1>wife, he shall not be able to send her away for all</v>

00:40:03.920 --> 00:40:09.360
<v Speaker 1>time. So again this is civil law, same sort of copy paste</v>

00:40:09.440 --> 00:40:14.640
<v Speaker 1>answer as before, but with the added aspect of right does a</v>

00:40:14.640 --> 00:40:17.280
<v Speaker 1>woman necessarily bleed on her wedding night?</v>

00:40:17.280 --> 00:40:19.920
<v Speaker 1>The answer is no, she does not always bleed.</v>

00:40:19.920 --> 00:40:24.560
<v Speaker 1>But this is a law meant to protect women in this ancient</v>

00:40:24.560 --> 00:40:28.240
<v Speaker 1>culture against wicked men, right?</v>

00:40:28.560 --> 00:40:32.480
<v Speaker 1>So it should be noted this was also something that was done</v>

00:40:32.480 --> 00:40:33.200
<v Speaker 1>in Europe.</v>

00:40:33.200 --> 00:40:37.120
<v Speaker 1>This is not something that is totally alien to our ancestors.</v>

00:40:37.120 --> 00:40:41.680
<v Speaker 1>Our ancestors would also occasionally hold up the sheet from the wedding</v>

00:40:41.680 --> 00:40:45.920
<v Speaker 1>bed as proof of not necessarily virginity, sometimes just as proof of</v>

00:40:45.920 --> 00:40:47.120
<v Speaker 1>consummation, right?</v>

00:40:47.120 --> 00:40:47.360
<v Speaker 1>Because</v>

00:40:48.240 --> 00:40:51.120
<v Speaker 1>the marriage had to be consummated or wasn't a marriage.</v>

00:40:51.120 --> 00:40:54.240
<v Speaker 1>This sort of thing did happen our society as well, so this</v>

00:40:54.240 --> 00:40:55.600
<v Speaker 1>is not completely alien.</v>

00:40:55.600 --> 00:41:00.160
<v Speaker 1>God designed this system, this biology, to work in a certain way.</v>

00:41:00.160 --> 00:41:02.480
<v Speaker 1>And it does in most cases.</v>

00:41:02.800 --> 00:41:08.080
<v Speaker 1>So we're talking about asking about in the question edge cases, right?</v>

00:41:08.080 --> 00:41:11.360
<v Speaker 1>When this doesn't happen, what do we do?</v>

00:41:11.360 --> 00:41:15.600
<v Speaker 1>Well, we're not beholden to this civil law, so we have other</v>

00:41:15.600 --> 00:41:17.760
<v Speaker 1>ways to test these things, right?</v>

00:41:17.760 --> 00:41:23.120
<v Speaker 1>And our concern would really not necessarily be I mean, yes, ideally</v>

00:41:23.120 --> 00:41:25.840
<v Speaker 1>a woman is a virgin on her wedding night, but the way</v>

00:41:25.840 --> 00:41:30.400
<v Speaker 1>to ensure that that happens is by her father exercising proper headship</v>

00:41:30.400 --> 00:41:34.640
<v Speaker 1>and authority and supervision and not letting her be alone with strange</v>

00:41:34.640 --> 00:41:37.200
<v Speaker 1>men. That's how you and it's sort of chain of custody is</v>

00:41:37.200 --> 00:41:38.800
<v Speaker 1>what you're really talking about here.</v>

00:41:38.800 --> 00:41:42.960
<v Speaker 1>That's how you deal with that in a proper society like ours.</v>

00:41:42.960 --> 00:41:43.600
<v Speaker 1>It's different.</v>

00:41:43.600 --> 00:41:46.480
<v Speaker 1>We're dealing with Middle Easterners, Near Easterners, they're different people.</v>

00:41:46.480 --> 00:41:47.840
<v Speaker 1>They behave in certain ways.</v>

00:41:47.840 --> 00:41:51.040
<v Speaker 1>God gave them rules, taking into account how they behaved.</v>

00:41:51.040 --> 00:41:53.280
<v Speaker 1>Again, civil law not binding on us.</v>

00:41:53.520 --> 00:41:56.960
<v Speaker 1>The real concern would be with adultery, right?</v>

00:41:56.960 --> 00:42:02.400
<v Speaker 1>And we have ways to test for adultery that are foolproof.</v>

00:42:02.400 --> 00:42:05.760
<v Speaker 1>So we don't have to worry about stuff like this.</v>

00:42:06.000 --> 00:42:08.720
<v Speaker 1>So don't let don't let these sorts of rules in the Old</v>

00:42:08.720 --> 00:42:12.240
<v Speaker 1>Testament in the civil law serve as some sort of stumbling block</v>

00:42:12.240 --> 00:42:15.200
<v Speaker 1>or concern for you because they're for a different people in a</v>

00:42:15.200 --> 00:42:16.240
<v Speaker 1>different time.</v>

00:42:16.240 --> 00:42:20.320
<v Speaker 1>They're not binding on us, and at most they can serve as</v>

00:42:20.320 --> 00:42:25.200
<v Speaker 1>sort of a recommendation when you read them in context.</v>

00:42:25.200 --> 00:42:28.720
<v Speaker 1>Right? In the context, so look at how women were treated in</v>

00:42:28.720 --> 00:42:32.240
<v Speaker 1>other legal codes in that time, in that area, and then look</v>

00:42:32.240 --> 00:42:33.920
<v Speaker 1>at what Scripture does.</v>

00:42:33.920 --> 00:42:38.320
<v Speaker 1>Scripture is God trying to civilize these people in a very real</v>

00:42:38.320 --> 00:42:44.640
<v Speaker 1>way. And so I'm not saying that like God imposes stricter burdens</v>

00:42:44.640 --> 00:42:45.280
<v Speaker 1>over time, right?</v>

00:42:45.280 --> 00:42:49.760
<v Speaker 1>There's that old argument in academia, that God is like slowly moralizing</v>

00:42:49.760 --> 00:42:52.720
<v Speaker 1>people. No, the moral law is unchanging.</v>

00:42:52.720 --> 00:42:56.480
<v Speaker 1>And so if this man lies, he gets punished because lying is</v>

00:42:56.480 --> 00:42:57.360
<v Speaker 1>against God's law.</v>

00:42:57.360 --> 00:42:59.040
<v Speaker 1>He's bearing false witness.</v>

00:42:59.040 --> 00:43:00.560
<v Speaker 1>That is always against God's law.</v>

00:43:00.960 --> 00:43:04.320
<v Speaker 1>That is an underlying moral law truth here.</v>

00:43:04.320 --> 00:43:07.520
<v Speaker 1>But the civil law is the punishment, the procedure, those kind of</v>

00:43:07.520 --> 00:43:10.000
<v Speaker 1>things not binding on us.</v>

00:43:10.000 --> 00:43:14.640
<v Speaker 1>And those should be higher in a higher society, in a society</v>

00:43:14.640 --> 00:43:16.000
<v Speaker 1>of better people.</v>

00:43:16.000 --> 00:43:18.240
<v Speaker 1>So we're not bound by this.</v>

00:43:18.240 --> 00:43:21.440
<v Speaker 1>So don't let this be sort of a stumbling block for you.</v>

00:43:21.440 --> 00:43:30.960
<v Speaker 1>Read it in the context because that's what it is.</v>

00:43:30.960 --> 00:43:32.080
<v Speaker 1>Let's see.</v>

00:43:32.080 --> 00:43:34.560
<v Speaker 1>Question nine.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Let me copy and paste it so I don't forget to do</v>

00:43:39.040 --> 00:43:42.720
<v Speaker 1>so. Do we owe a higher duty to our kin in our</v>

00:43:42.720 --> 00:43:46.080
<v Speaker 1>nation or to fellow Christians who are foreigners in our nation?</v>

00:43:46.080 --> 00:43:49.280
<v Speaker 1>Our pastor likes to say fellow Christians are our true family.</v>

00:43:49.280 --> 00:43:53.120
<v Speaker 1>So Not to quibble, but it's important to draw this distinction.</v>

00:43:53.120 --> 00:43:55.120
<v Speaker 1>The foreigners are in our country.</v>

00:43:55.120 --> 00:43:58.400
<v Speaker 1>They're not in our nation, because our nation is our people.</v>

00:43:58.400 --> 00:44:01.200
<v Speaker 1>So the foreigners shouldn't be here.</v>

00:44:01.200 --> 00:44:02.640
<v Speaker 1>That's the fundamental problem, right?</v>

00:44:02.640 --> 00:44:06.320
<v Speaker 1>You should always want to solve the foundational issue.</v>

00:44:06.320 --> 00:44:11.040
<v Speaker 1>There are too many instances where we have people who want to</v>

00:44:11.040 --> 00:44:14.960
<v Speaker 1>address the symptoms instead of the disease, right?</v>

00:44:15.120 --> 00:44:18.320
<v Speaker 1>And it's not always bad to treat symptoms, right?</v>

00:44:18.320 --> 00:44:20.240
<v Speaker 1>We recognize we do this with our medicine.</v>

00:44:20.240 --> 00:44:24.400
<v Speaker 1>We don't tell people, oh, you're in pain because you have X,</v>

00:44:24.400 --> 00:44:25.200
<v Speaker 1>Y, or Z.</v>

00:44:25.200 --> 00:44:27.600
<v Speaker 1>Well treat X, Y, and Z but ignore your pain.</v>

00:44:27.840 --> 00:44:29.280
<v Speaker 1>We don't do that.</v>

00:44:29.280 --> 00:44:31.200
<v Speaker 1>So you do have to deal with these issues.</v>

00:44:31.200 --> 00:44:31.920
<v Speaker 1>I recognize that.</v>

00:44:31.920 --> 00:44:34.800
<v Speaker 1>So I'm not just dismissing the issue.</v>

00:44:34.800 --> 00:44:40.160
<v Speaker 1>But fundamentally, the issue is that we have foreigners in our lands.</v>

00:44:40.160 --> 00:44:41.760
<v Speaker 1>They need to be expelled.</v>

00:44:41.760 --> 00:44:43.920
<v Speaker 1>That's how you solve this problem.</v>

00:44:43.920 --> 00:44:47.680
<v Speaker 1>But to address the question, we owe a higher duty to our</v>

00:44:47.680 --> 00:44:50.960
<v Speaker 1>own, because God is the one who assigned that.</v>

00:44:50.960 --> 00:44:55.280
<v Speaker 1>And this is something that most modern pastors</v>

00:44:56.480 --> 00:44:59.680
<v Speaker 1>If I'm being charitable, I'd say don't understand, but really for most</v>

00:44:59.680 --> 00:45:01.920
<v Speaker 1>of them they're just actually malicious.</v>

00:45:01.920 --> 00:45:04.400
<v Speaker 1>There are some who are genuine fools.</v>

00:45:04.400 --> 00:45:06.160
<v Speaker 1>Which they probably shouldn't, then.</v>

00:45:06.160 --> 00:45:07.600
<v Speaker 1>They're unfit to be a pastor, but.</v>

00:45:08.960 --> 00:45:10.160
<v Speaker 1>God created</v>

00:45:11.120 --> 00:45:14.080
<v Speaker 1>the bonds of blood, right?</v>

00:45:14.080 --> 00:45:15.360
<v Speaker 1>He's the one who created those.</v>

00:45:15.360 --> 00:45:18.560
<v Speaker 1>God is not absent from this equation.</v>

00:45:18.560 --> 00:45:20.880
<v Speaker 1>God is the one who gave you a father and a mother.</v>

00:45:20.880 --> 00:45:24.160
<v Speaker 1>He's the one who designed the system by which you were created,</v>

00:45:24.160 --> 00:45:27.440
<v Speaker 1>and he is the one who designed all of these bonds of</v>

00:45:27.440 --> 00:45:32.480
<v Speaker 1>kinship. So it's not like you're saying, oh no, I want to</v>

00:45:32.480 --> 00:45:36.080
<v Speaker 1>go and follow some pagan or whatever.</v>

00:45:36.080 --> 00:45:40.480
<v Speaker 1>No, you are obeying the way that God designed creation.</v>

00:45:40.480 --> 00:45:43.760
<v Speaker 1>And really, these men ultimately, it's a Gnostic argument.</v>

00:45:43.760 --> 00:45:45.200
<v Speaker 1>They're arguing that all that matters</v>

00:45:46.160 --> 00:45:49.760
<v Speaker 1>is this sort of chosen family, right?</v>

00:45:49.760 --> 00:45:54.320
<v Speaker 1>They're borrowing the almost the same language as the left with regard</v>

00:45:54.320 --> 00:45:59.360
<v Speaker 1>to all their perversions, and they're trying to say that it's Christian.</v>

00:45:59.360 --> 00:46:00.720
<v Speaker 1>It's not Christian.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>You owe a higher duty to your own people.</v>

00:46:04.960 --> 00:46:06.880
<v Speaker 1>Look at the Ten Commandments.</v>

00:46:06.880 --> 00:46:10.000
<v Speaker 1>The Ten Commandments are basically hierarchical.</v>

00:46:10.000 --> 00:46:13.680
<v Speaker 1>Honor thy father and thy mother pretty high up there, right?</v>

00:46:13.920 --> 00:46:18.080
<v Speaker 1>Right after the ones that deal with God personally.</v>

00:46:18.080 --> 00:46:20.880
<v Speaker 1>So that's how important blood is to God.</v>

00:46:20.880 --> 00:46:23.120
<v Speaker 1>That's how important your family is to God.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>You should absolutely care for your own more than foreigners who are</v>

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<v Speaker 1>in your country but shouldn't be here.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Doesn't matter if they're Christian or not.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>And</v>

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<v Speaker 1>as not really an aside, but a sort of subsidiary point If</v>

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<v Speaker 1>they were actually Christian and had been catechized correctly, knew the Christian</v>

00:46:43.440 --> 00:46:47.600
<v Speaker 1>faith, believed in what it teaches, they would go home.</v>

00:46:47.600 --> 00:46:51.440
<v Speaker 1>Because they're supposed to be among their own kind, not invading our</v>

00:46:51.440 --> 00:46:55.280
<v Speaker 1>lands. So I would question whether or not they are even Christian</v>

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<v Speaker 1>at all.</v>

00:46:56.240 --> 00:46:59.440
<v Speaker 1>They are at the very least certainly not behaving as Christians.</v>

00:47:05.120 --> 00:47:09.840
<v Speaker 1>Then we have someone asking about personal versus</v>

00:47:11.120 --> 00:47:14.080
<v Speaker 1>enemies of God.</v>

00:47:14.080 --> 00:47:17.360
<v Speaker 1>Let me copy the question before I read it.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Where in the Bible does it differentiate between personal enemies and enemies</v>

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<v Speaker 1>of God or my countrymen?</v>

00:47:28.160 --> 00:47:30.720
<v Speaker 1>What Bible verse should I look to?</v>

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<v Speaker 1>This is not necessarily one where you are going to have a</v>

00:47:33.920 --> 00:47:35.280
<v Speaker 1>single Bible verse.</v>

00:47:35.280 --> 00:47:39.360
<v Speaker 1>There are a lot of different verses for this one.</v>

00:47:39.360 --> 00:47:42.960
<v Speaker 1>And it is probably a more complicated argument.</v>

00:47:43.280 --> 00:47:44.160
<v Speaker 1>I would say</v>

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<v Speaker 1>look at the episodes in Stone Choir where we dealt with this</v>

00:47:49.680 --> 00:47:55.600
<v Speaker 1>and then I also have an article on my site.</v>

00:47:56.320 --> 00:47:59.360
<v Speaker 1>Probably be easier if I'd search, but there we go.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>I have this article, personal or public.</v>

00:48:01.920 --> 00:48:03.200
<v Speaker 1>This deals with</v>

00:48:04.480 --> 00:48:06.160
<v Speaker 1>this exact question.</v>

00:48:06.160 --> 00:48:09.360
<v Speaker 1>So I will put that in the the show notes, but there</v>

00:48:09.680 --> 00:48:13.120
<v Speaker 1>are both personal enemies and there are public enemies, right?</v>

00:48:13.120 --> 00:48:17.120
<v Speaker 1>And I think the best way to approach this with people is</v>

00:48:18.320 --> 00:48:20.000
<v Speaker 1>sort of how we generally do things, right?</v>

00:48:20.000 --> 00:48:21.520
<v Speaker 1>Take an extreme example.</v>

00:48:21.520 --> 00:48:22.080
<v Speaker 1>And so</v>

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<v Speaker 1>for your personal enemy, the simple version right, the sort of mundane</v>

00:48:28.160 --> 00:48:34.640
<v Speaker 1>everyday option, if your neighbor constantly borrows your tools and destroys them,</v>

00:48:34.640 --> 00:48:38.080
<v Speaker 1>he's kinda your personal enemy in a certain way, right?</v>

00:48:38.480 --> 00:48:41.840
<v Speaker 1>You don't hate him for it, you don't try to destroy his</v>

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<v Speaker 1>life. You forgive him for it.</v>

00:48:44.320 --> 00:48:47.680
<v Speaker 1>Maybe you don't lend him your tools in the same way, you</v>

00:48:47.680 --> 00:48:50.880
<v Speaker 1>know You know, forgiving someone is not the same as recognizing they</v>

00:48:50.880 --> 00:48:53.040
<v Speaker 1>have a penchant for behavior in a certain way.</v>

00:48:53.040 --> 00:48:55.120
<v Speaker 1>You can still behave with wisdom.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>But that's a personal enemy.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>You forgive him.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>A public enemy would be like you're at war.</v>

00:49:02.400 --> 00:49:06.320
<v Speaker 1>Your nation is at war with another nation.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Are you allowed to say, well, I just I'm not going to</v>

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<v Speaker 1>oppose them.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>I'm going to say I forgive them, they can do it.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>You can't do that.</v>

00:49:14.480 --> 00:49:16.400
<v Speaker 1>That's insane.</v>

00:49:16.400 --> 00:49:16.720
<v Speaker 1>So</v>

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<v Speaker 1>n almost no one is going to argue that as a Christian</v>

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<v Speaker 1>you have to do that.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>The only people who do that would be the Anabaptists, the hardline</v>

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<v Speaker 1>ones who are actually pacifists.</v>

00:49:27.920 --> 00:49:30.400
<v Speaker 1>And pacifism is not Christian, right?</v>

00:49:30.400 --> 00:49:31.600
<v Speaker 1>It's not Christian at all.</v>

00:49:31.600 --> 00:49:35.680
<v Speaker 1>Look at the descriptions of God as a god, basically God of</v>

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<v Speaker 1>war in some cases.</v>

00:49:37.280 --> 00:49:40.720
<v Speaker 1>He goes and wipes out his enemies, he conquers the world, he's</v>

00:49:40.720 --> 00:49:43.360
<v Speaker 1>going to destroy all his enemies when he returns.</v>

00:49:43.360 --> 00:49:45.120
<v Speaker 1>That's not pacifism.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>And then the last stage of this, or the last type really,</v>

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<v Speaker 1>would be enemies of God.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Take the most extreme example.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Are you personally allowed to forgive Satan?</v>

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<v Speaker 1>No Christian is going to say yes.</v>

00:49:59.840 --> 00:50:04.000
<v Speaker 1>So, you know, David Bentley Hart might say yes, but no Christian</v>

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<v Speaker 1>is going to say yes.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Use that example.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>If that doesn't get through to him, you're probably going to have</v>

00:50:11.680 --> 00:50:14.080
<v Speaker 1>trouble getting through to him at all.</v>

00:50:14.080 --> 00:50:16.640
<v Speaker 1>That's just that's just the reality of it.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>There are going to be men who will simply not hear the</v>

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<v Speaker 1>truth and sometimes the best thing you can do is identify them</v>

00:50:23.680 --> 00:50:27.200
<v Speaker 1>and then avoid dealing with them because you're going to waste your</v>

00:50:27.200 --> 00:50:30.160
<v Speaker 1>time and they may very well try to destroy your life because</v>

00:50:30.160 --> 00:50:33.360
<v Speaker 1>they'll say you have to forgive your enemies, but they won't forgive</v>

00:50:33.360 --> 00:50:36.320
<v Speaker 1>their enemies, because you're going to be their enemy and they're going</v>

00:50:36.320 --> 00:50:37.920
<v Speaker 1>to try to ruin you.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>So exercise wisdom in that.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>I would say the Satan example is probably a good place to</v>

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<v Speaker 1>start though.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Because if someone says, yes, I forgive Satan, you have bigger problems</v>

00:50:48.800 --> 00:50:52.640
<v Speaker 1>and you're probably not going to get anywhere dealing with that man.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>But definitely read that article and then listen to the Stone Choir</v>

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<v Speaker 1>episodes.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Someone asked me to elaborate on a tweet that I posted apparently</v>

00:51:11.120 --> 00:51:12.240
<v Speaker 1>quite some time ago.</v>

00:51:12.320 --> 00:51:14.800
<v Speaker 1>Let me look up when that was.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Real quick here.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>I don't even see the tweet, so I will perhaps save that</v>

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<v Speaker 1>one for next time because the tweet's not even coming up when</v>

00:51:32.240 --> 00:51:36.640
<v Speaker 1>I search for it, but I'll save that to my future topic</v>

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<v Speaker 1>list here.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Someone asking about Nietzsche, basically.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Is George Washington in hell?</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Well, that's shortened to the point, so that's question eleven.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Is George Washington in hell?</v>

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>I</v>

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<v Speaker 1>don't know enough about his personal beliefs to really make sort of</v>

00:52:04.480 --> 00:52:07.120
<v Speaker 1>an assessment there, and I'm not even sure I'd be comfortable doing</v>

00:52:07.120 --> 00:52:12.560
<v Speaker 1>so. Washington seems to have been Christian, so</v>

00:52:13.440 --> 00:52:15.440
<v Speaker 1>it's one of those things we leave it to the wisdom of</v>

00:52:15.440 --> 00:52:16.080
<v Speaker 1>God, right?</v>

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<v Speaker 1>If you want to talk about men where maybe we have some</v>

00:52:18.400 --> 00:52:20.240
<v Speaker 1>doubts, you want to talk about Jefferson, right?</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Jefferson's the one who's redacting the Bible to remove the parts that</v>

00:52:23.920 --> 00:52:26.560
<v Speaker 1>have miracles to make it into a secular book.</v>

00:52:26.800 --> 00:52:31.760
<v Speaker 1>we can have some very firm doubts about Jefferson's eternal repose.</v>

00:52:31.760 --> 00:52:37.120
<v Speaker 1>But men like Washington and others, you have some deism with regard</v>

00:52:37.120 --> 00:52:39.520
<v Speaker 1>to how they thought because it was very popular at the time</v>

00:52:39.600 --> 00:52:45.280
<v Speaker 1>it infected a lot of the educated class Class, it doesn't necessarily</v>

00:52:45.280 --> 00:52:51.680
<v Speaker 1>mean that ultimately they disbelieved Christ and disbelieved God.</v>

00:52:51.680 --> 00:52:54.720
<v Speaker 1>Lutherans would call this felicitous inconsistency.</v>

00:52:54.720 --> 00:52:59.040
<v Speaker 1>This issue comes up frequently, and so we hope that he was</v>

00:52:59.040 --> 00:53:00.720
<v Speaker 1>felicitously inconsistent.</v>

00:53:00.720 --> 00:53:05.520
<v Speaker 1>We hope that he had some tendencies toward excuse me.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>We hope that he had some tendencies toward deism and things like</v>

00:53:08.560 --> 00:53:12.000
<v Speaker 1>that, but that ultimately he did believe in Christ and relied on</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Christ alone.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>So I can't say, you know, God hasn't told me, right?</v>

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know for certain if George Washington is in hell or</v>

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<v Speaker 1>not. I hope that he believed.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>I hope that he did truly believe.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Let's see.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Someone asks, what do you think of Christian Lebanese based on your</v>

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<v Speaker 1>biblical racial view?</v>

00:53:40.080 --> 00:53:43.040
<v Speaker 1>I know some white nationals are fine with them, some are not.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>I have commented on this, this is question twelve.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>I've commented on this in the past, not necessarily specifically with regard</v>

00:53:51.120 --> 00:53:54.880
<v Speaker 1>to the Lebanese, but with regard to non-white Christians in other parts</v>

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<v Speaker 1>of the world.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>I would very happily Work with them to arm them, supply them,</v>

00:54:01.840 --> 00:54:04.800
<v Speaker 1>give them logistics, things like that, to help them take over their</v>

00:54:04.800 --> 00:54:07.760
<v Speaker 1>territory. Perfectly happy to do that.</v>

00:54:07.760 --> 00:54:10.640
<v Speaker 1>But they need to be in their own lands.</v>

00:54:10.640 --> 00:54:14.160
<v Speaker 1>Because we should not have people all over the world spread all</v>

00:54:14.160 --> 00:54:14.720
<v Speaker 1>over the place.</v>

00:54:14.720 --> 00:54:18.000
<v Speaker 1>That's Satan's plan for destroying the distinct nations that are the creation</v>

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<v Speaker 1>of God.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>So they can be allies and friends, but over there, right?</v>

00:54:23.600 --> 00:54:25.680
<v Speaker 1>Good fences make good neighbors.</v>

00:54:25.680 --> 00:54:27.280
<v Speaker 1>That sort of thing.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>No, I I have no problem with them.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>I would never say that we should go to war and destroy</v>

00:54:30.480 --> 00:54:33.840
<v Speaker 1>them. I would never go to war with Christians anywhere who are</v>

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<v Speaker 1>actually being Christians and behaving as Christians.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Question about Italian fascism, I think I will save that for later</v>

00:54:44.400 --> 00:54:49.600
<v Speaker 1>since that's obviously a little more in depth distinguishing different kinds of</v>

00:54:49.600 --> 00:54:59.920
<v Speaker 1>right wing authoritarianism.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Question about drugs.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>I guess we're gonna see if this episode gets delisted on various</v>

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<v Speaker 1>platforms, which it may very well since I've touched on some subjects</v>

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<v Speaker 1>that you're not supposed to at least not supposed to mention by</v>

00:55:13.200 --> 00:55:14.800
<v Speaker 1>name these days.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>How do you feel about weed, which is say marijuana for Christians,</v>

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<v Speaker 1>and also meth, cocaine, MDMA.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Are these always banned for Christians</v>

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<v Speaker 1>like psychedelics?</v>

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<v Speaker 1>So I would agree with you that psychedelics are</v>

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<v Speaker 1>at least almost always banned.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know if there are maybe some edge cases where they</v>

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<v Speaker 1>have some therapeutic or clinical utility of some kind.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>I think there's a possibility there.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Mushrooms are very weird, right?</v>

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<v Speaker 1>We have only just barely begun studying the various compounds produced by</v>

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<v Speaker 1>mushrooms. I'm not willing to go and say that all of them</v>

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<v Speaker 1>are prohibited on moral grounds to Christians because some of them may</v>

00:55:56.240 --> 00:56:01.200
<v Speaker 1>turn out to be extremely beneficial in order to treat certain ailments,</v>

00:56:01.200 --> 00:56:03.520
<v Speaker 1>particularly psychological ones.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>So I don't think that if it turns out they're beneficial for</v>

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<v Speaker 1>that they're banned, but recreationally, no, you should not be playing with</v>

00:56:10.640 --> 00:56:14.400
<v Speaker 1>psychedelics because that is just opening yourself up to a world of</v>

00:56:14.400 --> 00:56:17.680
<v Speaker 1>things you don't want talking to you.</v>

00:56:17.680 --> 00:56:21.040
<v Speaker 1>I if you're so inclined, go read some trip reports from people</v>

00:56:21.040 --> 00:56:21.920
<v Speaker 1>who've taken some of these things.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>As a Christian, you should absolutely go, yeah, those are demons.</v>

00:56:26.160 --> 00:56:28.720
<v Speaker 1>you're talking to demons, you met a demon.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>You probably don't want to do that.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>It's not a good way to spend your weekend.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>So So ecstasy, cocaine, methamphetamine, they're extremely destructive drugs.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>You know, I</v>

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<v Speaker 1>I'm friends with a number of people who used to be part</v>

00:56:45.200 --> 00:56:48.400
<v Speaker 1>of the the party scene, so ironically scratch my nose as I</v>

00:56:48.400 --> 00:56:48.800
<v Speaker 1>say that.</v>

00:56:48.800 --> 00:56:50.720
<v Speaker 1>I'm friends with people used to be part of a the party</v>

00:56:50.720 --> 00:56:53.120
<v Speaker 1>scene and so you know I've I've seen people on some of</v>

00:56:53.120 --> 00:56:53.760
<v Speaker 1>those things.</v>

00:56:53.920 --> 00:56:55.600
<v Speaker 1>They don't do good things.</v>

00:56:55.600 --> 00:56:58.000
<v Speaker 1>Cocaine destroys people's lives.</v>

00:56:58.000 --> 00:57:00.800
<v Speaker 1>Ecstasy can literally burn out your brain.</v>

00:57:00.800 --> 00:57:03.680
<v Speaker 1>It causes a number of issues I mean you can get serotonin</v>

00:57:03.680 --> 00:57:06.880
<v Speaker 1>syndrome, which is actually fatal in some cases.</v>

00:57:06.880 --> 00:57:10.480
<v Speaker 1>I've never seen a single person do meth whose life didn't act</v>

00:57:10.720 --> 00:57:14.560
<v Speaker 1>just completely implode, usually in a violent way that ended up in</v>

00:57:14.560 --> 00:57:15.680
<v Speaker 1>prison. So</v>

00:57:16.560 --> 00:57:18.320
<v Speaker 1>no, those drugs are not good.</v>

00:57:18.320 --> 00:57:20.480
<v Speaker 1>Christians should not take them.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Now, does that mean that necessarily there's no use for any of</v>

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<v Speaker 1>them</v>

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<v Speaker 1>No, because there are certain types of amphetamines that we do actually</v>

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<v Speaker 1>use for permissible reasons, like pilots flying very long haul flights for</v>

00:57:36.080 --> 00:57:40.960
<v Speaker 1>the military will indeed take amphetamines, not meth specifically, but they will</v>

00:57:40.960 --> 00:57:42.640
<v Speaker 1>take amphetamines.</v>

00:57:42.640 --> 00:57:46.800
<v Speaker 1>Because if you fall asleep flying a 1.5 billion dollar aircraft, that's</v>

00:57:46.800 --> 00:57:48.480
<v Speaker 1>typically very bad.</v>

00:57:48.480 --> 00:57:51.280
<v Speaker 1>So that's a legitimate use.</v>

00:57:51.280 --> 00:57:55.840
<v Speaker 1>There are uses for at least the plant from which cocaine is</v>

00:57:55.840 --> 00:58:00.160
<v Speaker 1>derived. Probably not cocaine itself, that's sort of a different beast.</v>

00:58:00.160 --> 00:58:02.800
<v Speaker 1>But the native people there would chew on the plant and it's</v>

00:58:02.720 --> 00:58:04.560
<v Speaker 1>basically like a stronger version of coffee.</v>

00:58:04.560 --> 00:58:06.800
<v Speaker 1>I don't think that's necessarily wrong.</v>

00:58:06.800 --> 00:58:11.680
<v Speaker 1>Ecstasy shows some clinical use for depression and things like that.</v>

00:58:11.680 --> 00:58:15.680
<v Speaker 1>So under control as a medicine, I think it's probably fine.</v>

00:58:15.680 --> 00:58:19.040
<v Speaker 1>I don't think Christians should be using these recreationally, certainly.</v>

00:58:19.040 --> 00:58:21.360
<v Speaker 1>And the same thing holds for marijuana.</v>

00:58:21.360 --> 00:58:24.080
<v Speaker 1>And the reason that I would say people should not be using</v>

00:58:24.080 --> 00:58:30.320
<v Speaker 1>marijuana recreationally is not that per se intoxicants are always bad, right?</v>

00:58:30.320 --> 00:58:32.800
<v Speaker 1>Because obviously I say alcohol is fine.</v>

00:58:32.800 --> 00:58:35.360
<v Speaker 1>I actually don't have a bottle on my desk right now to</v>

00:58:35.360 --> 00:58:37.760
<v Speaker 1>help one up, but see if I can get banned all at</v>

00:58:37.760 --> 00:58:40.880
<v Speaker 1>once. But having alcohol is fine.</v>

00:58:40.880 --> 00:58:44.800
<v Speaker 1>Intoxicants are fine as long as you don't become a drunk.</v>

00:58:44.800 --> 00:58:46.560
<v Speaker 1>Don't become a habitual user.</v>

00:58:46.560 --> 00:58:49.520
<v Speaker 1>And so people are naturally going to think, well, why not marijuana</v>

00:58:49.600 --> 00:58:50.000
<v Speaker 1>then, right?</v>

00:58:50.000 --> 00:58:54.320
<v Speaker 1>Because marijuana is the problem with marijuana is really twofold.</v>

00:58:54.320 --> 00:59:00.720
<v Speaker 1>One, it does show longitudinal adverse effects on IQ.</v>

00:59:00.720 --> 00:59:04.240
<v Speaker 1>So yes, if you're a drunk that does the same thing, right?</v>

00:59:04.240 --> 00:59:07.760
<v Speaker 1>The problem is marijuana doesn't have a safe amount that doesn't have</v>

00:59:07.760 --> 00:59:09.200
<v Speaker 1>that effect on IQ.</v>

00:59:09.440 --> 00:59:12.000
<v Speaker 1>if you use it at least for a long period of time.</v>

00:59:12.000 --> 00:59:14.480
<v Speaker 1>You know, if if you smoked a joint or something in high</v>

00:59:14.480 --> 00:59:16.880
<v Speaker 1>school, it probably wasn't a great idea.</v>

00:59:17.440 --> 00:59:18.960
<v Speaker 1>it's not going to make you an idiot, right?</v>

00:59:18.960 --> 00:59:21.120
<v Speaker 1>It's not going to make you literally clinically retarded.</v>

00:59:21.120 --> 00:59:21.840
<v Speaker 1>That's not how that works.</v>

00:59:21.840 --> 00:59:26.320
<v Speaker 1>This is longitudinal use over many years, consistent use lowers IQ.</v>

00:59:26.320 --> 00:59:30.480
<v Speaker 1>I don't think it's wise to use any drug that lowers IQ.</v>

00:59:30.640 --> 00:59:32.960
<v Speaker 1>I think that kind of almost goes without saying.</v>

00:59:32.960 --> 00:59:35.280
<v Speaker 1>The other aspect, and I think this is probably the more important</v>

00:59:35.280 --> 00:59:41.520
<v Speaker 1>one for marijuana, is that THC, the active ingredient in marijuana, does</v>

00:59:41.520 --> 00:59:46.960
<v Speaker 1>indeed show that for those who have a genetic predisposition to schizophrenia,</v>

00:59:46.960 --> 00:59:54.400
<v Speaker 1>it can actually be the catalyst for making it full-blown active schizophrenia.</v>

00:59:54.400 --> 00:59:56.720
<v Speaker 1>I would not roll those dice.</v>

00:59:56.720 --> 00:59:59.120
<v Speaker 1>You know, go back to the example I was talking about earlier,</v>

00:59:59.120 --> 01:00:01.360
<v Speaker 1>right? If you have a one in six chance, it's not one</v>

01:00:01.440 --> 01:00:04.800
<v Speaker 1>in six, again, it's it's smaller, so uh D one hundred, whatever</v>

01:00:04.800 --> 01:00:06.720
<v Speaker 1>it is, a one percent chance.</v>

01:00:07.440 --> 01:00:10.000
<v Speaker 1>Don't roll that die.</v>

01:00:10.000 --> 01:00:13.920
<v Speaker 1>The outcome is really bad, and we don't have a way to</v>

01:00:13.920 --> 01:00:14.800
<v Speaker 1>screen for it.</v>

01:00:14.800 --> 01:00:18.080
<v Speaker 1>So we can't say you're safe, you're not safe.</v>

01:00:18.080 --> 01:00:19.040
<v Speaker 1>Sort of like smoking.</v>

01:00:19.040 --> 01:00:21.840
<v Speaker 1>We can't say you'll get lung cancer, you won't get lung cancer.</v>

01:00:21.840 --> 01:00:24.560
<v Speaker 1>So probably consider don't doing it.</v>

01:00:24.560 --> 01:00:27.840
<v Speaker 1>Because of the negative longitudinal consequences.</v>

01:00:27.840 --> 01:00:31.280
<v Speaker 1>And in this case, the chance of an actual psychotic break is</v>

01:00:31.280 --> 01:00:32.640
<v Speaker 1>on the table.</v>

01:00:32.640 --> 01:00:34.640
<v Speaker 1>The risk is not worth it.</v>

01:00:34.640 --> 01:00:39.440
<v Speaker 1>You know, I understand that people enjoy drugs like that, and I</v>

01:00:39.440 --> 01:00:41.200
<v Speaker 1>I mean I understand why they like them, right?</v>

01:00:41.200 --> 01:00:44.720
<v Speaker 1>You know, it's not that downers are enjoyable to a certain degree.</v>

01:00:44.720 --> 01:00:49.840
<v Speaker 1>I've never done any of these drugs personally, but I can understand</v>

01:00:49.840 --> 01:00:50.640
<v Speaker 1>the appeal.</v>

01:00:50.640 --> 01:00:54.480
<v Speaker 1>I understand the mechanism and the effects and all those things.</v>

01:00:54.480 --> 01:00:59.040
<v Speaker 1>It's just the risks with these ones much too high.</v>

01:00:59.040 --> 01:01:03.520
<v Speaker 1>And I don't think that you want to run that risk.</v>

01:01:03.840 --> 01:01:05.680
<v Speaker 1>So if you are.</v>

01:01:05.680 --> 01:01:08.320
<v Speaker 1>The problem of course is also that you can be a marijuana</v>

01:01:08.320 --> 01:01:11.120
<v Speaker 1>user for a period of time and then I I don't know</v>

01:01:11.120 --> 01:01:13.680
<v Speaker 1>the exact mechanism of it, but it's like it reaches a critical</v>

01:01:13.680 --> 01:01:16.320
<v Speaker 1>mass or something and then triggers the psychotic break.</v>

01:01:16.320 --> 01:01:18.880
<v Speaker 1>So just because you tried it or have smoked it for a</v>

01:01:18.880 --> 01:01:22.640
<v Speaker 1>number of years doesn't mean it will never induce schizophrenia.</v>

01:01:22.640 --> 01:01:26.240
<v Speaker 1>Now, like I said, genetic predisposition, but we can't test for it</v>

01:01:26.240 --> 01:01:30.400
<v Speaker 1>yet. We don't know enough about the disease to know exactly what</v>

01:01:30.400 --> 01:01:34.640
<v Speaker 1>we're looking for, to see how that interaction happens and whether or</v>

01:01:34.640 --> 01:01:37.120
<v Speaker 1>not you will be someone who runs this risk.</v>

01:01:37.120 --> 01:01:42.000
<v Speaker 1>So because of that risk and because of the IQ lowering effects</v>

01:01:42.000 --> 01:01:44.640
<v Speaker 1>over time, I would say avoid it.</v>

01:01:44.640 --> 01:01:50.080
<v Speaker 1>I don't think that necessarily like this is some super high-handed end</v>

01:01:50.080 --> 01:01:51.840
<v Speaker 1>of the world sort of sin, right?</v>

01:01:51.840 --> 01:01:54.880
<v Speaker 1>It's not morally equivalent to murder or something.</v>

01:01:54.880 --> 01:01:58.880
<v Speaker 1>It's just unwise, and Christians are commanded to be wise.</v>

01:01:58.880 --> 01:01:59.200
<v Speaker 1>So</v>

01:02:00.880 --> 01:02:03.920
<v Speaker 1>Take up craft beer or something, you know?</v>

01:02:03.920 --> 01:02:06.960
<v Speaker 1>Something that you know is safe as long as you're not becoming</v>

01:02:06.960 --> 01:02:08.080
<v Speaker 1>a drunk.</v>

01:02:08.080 --> 01:02:12.480
<v Speaker 1>If you don't want the calories, take up whiskey, you know.</v>

01:02:12.480 --> 01:02:16.000
<v Speaker 1>Or you know, clear li clear liquors if you want almost no</v>

01:02:16.000 --> 01:02:17.680
<v Speaker 1>calories, right?</v>

01:02:17.680 --> 01:02:21.520
<v Speaker 1>But yes, I think that these are definitely unwise to use, at</v>

01:02:21.520 --> 01:02:22.960
<v Speaker 1>least recreationally.</v>

01:02:22.960 --> 01:02:26.160
<v Speaker 1>Again, I do think that there's utility there with regard to medical</v>

01:02:26.160 --> 01:02:27.360
<v Speaker 1>application, things like that.</v>

01:02:27.360 --> 01:02:29.520
<v Speaker 1>So that research should continue.</v>

01:02:38.800 --> 01:02:39.760
<v Speaker 1>Let's see.</v>

01:02:39.760 --> 01:02:42.000
<v Speaker 1>I think maybe a couple more questions here.</v>

01:02:42.000 --> 01:02:43.280
<v Speaker 1>I'll pull from the chat.</v>

01:02:43.280 --> 01:02:43.920
<v Speaker 1>Question</v>

01:02:44.800 --> 01:02:46.320
<v Speaker 1>my page scrolled.</v>

01:02:46.320 --> 01:02:48.880
<v Speaker 1>Question 14.</v>

01:02:51.200 --> 01:02:54.960
<v Speaker 1>Does the Bible say anything about what hell will be like for</v>

01:02:54.960 --> 01:02:57.920
<v Speaker 1>those who have had no time to commit any sin at all?</v>

01:02:58.160 --> 01:03:03.520
<v Speaker 1>instance, a miscarriage does scripture Bear the possibility of people being saved</v>

01:03:03.520 --> 01:03:04.560
<v Speaker 1>out of hell.</v>

01:03:04.560 --> 01:03:07.280
<v Speaker 1>So I'll answer those in reverse order because the second one's easy.</v>

01:03:07.280 --> 01:03:11.120
<v Speaker 1>No. It is appointed for man but wants to die and then</v>

01:03:11.120 --> 01:03:13.120
<v Speaker 1>comes the judgment, and that's it.</v>

01:03:13.360 --> 01:03:14.640
<v Speaker 1>Seven or hell.</v>

01:03:14.640 --> 01:03:16.720
<v Speaker 1>It's paradise or hell technically.</v>

01:03:16.720 --> 01:03:17.680
<v Speaker 1>we don't stay in heaven.</v>

01:03:17.680 --> 01:03:20.400
<v Speaker 1>We have a body, so it's a new new heaven and new</v>

01:03:20.400 --> 01:03:23.920
<v Speaker 1>earth. We're in the new creation, which we call paradise.</v>

01:03:23.920 --> 01:03:28.320
<v Speaker 1>So the question then is what happens to those who have not</v>

01:03:28.320 --> 01:03:30.720
<v Speaker 1>committed any personal sin, right?</v>

01:03:30.720 --> 01:03:34.400
<v Speaker 1>Because original sin infects all of us.</v>

01:03:34.400 --> 01:03:35.200
<v Speaker 1>Excuse me.</v>

01:03:35.200 --> 01:03:39.040
<v Speaker 1>We are all subject to original sin because we are all descended</v>

01:03:39.040 --> 01:03:40.240
<v Speaker 1>from Adam.</v>

01:03:40.240 --> 01:03:43.840
<v Speaker 1>We have all inherited Adam's sin.</v>

01:03:43.840 --> 01:03:46.400
<v Speaker 1>And so it's it's called ancestral sin sometimes.</v>

01:03:46.640 --> 01:03:50.000
<v Speaker 1>Particularly in German, sometimes it'll be called that instead of original sin.</v>

01:03:50.000 --> 01:03:50.320
<v Speaker 1>But</v>

01:03:51.280 --> 01:03:53.840
<v Speaker 1>so that happens to all of us.</v>

01:03:53.840 --> 01:03:58.320
<v Speaker 1>All are sinners, all are guilty of sin, all are damned without</v>

01:03:58.320 --> 01:04:02.080
<v Speaker 1>Christ. Now the question is what happens in the example given here</v>

01:04:02.080 --> 01:04:03.840
<v Speaker 1>is a miscarriage, right?</v>

01:04:03.840 --> 01:04:07.920
<v Speaker 1>Someone who has not in theory at least committed any personal sins,</v>

01:04:07.920 --> 01:04:12.800
<v Speaker 1>right? You assume that a child miscarried, say very early on, right,</v>

01:04:12.800 --> 01:04:15.120
<v Speaker 1>maybe you know the zygote fails to implant.</v>

01:04:15.120 --> 01:04:17.440
<v Speaker 1>The child literally didn't live a day.</v>

01:04:17.440 --> 01:04:19.680
<v Speaker 1>So what happens?</v>

01:04:19.680 --> 01:04:23.120
<v Speaker 1>I've gone over this before with regard to the issue of those</v>

01:04:23.120 --> 01:04:24.320
<v Speaker 1>who die in infancy.</v>

01:04:24.320 --> 01:04:26.720
<v Speaker 1>And so I would refer you back to those episodes, but just</v>

01:04:26.720 --> 01:04:28.720
<v Speaker 1>briefly in order to answer it here, and you can go back</v>

01:04:28.720 --> 01:04:32.720
<v Speaker 1>and listen to the the longer form answer as it were.</v>

01:04:32.720 --> 01:04:36.720
<v Speaker 1>Children are believers, we can take comfort, given the clear teaching of</v>

01:04:36.720 --> 01:04:39.920
<v Speaker 1>Scripture in many places, they are saved.</v>

01:04:39.920 --> 01:04:42.960
<v Speaker 1>That's God's work, not ours, that of our hands, but we rest</v>

01:04:42.960 --> 01:04:46.240
<v Speaker 1>secure that God has provided for them.</v>

01:04:46.240 --> 01:04:47.440
<v Speaker 1>They are saved.</v>

01:04:47.680 --> 01:04:52.400
<v Speaker 1>For the children of unbelievers, we don't know.</v>

01:04:52.400 --> 01:04:57.280
<v Speaker 1>Because scripture does not specifically say what happens to those who die</v>

01:04:57.440 --> 01:04:58.560
<v Speaker 1>at that age.</v>

01:04:58.960 --> 01:05:02.640
<v Speaker 1>And And you could take the uncharitable approach, right, and say that,</v>

01:05:02.640 --> 01:05:05.680
<v Speaker 1>well, they're sinners and they never believed and so they go to</v>

01:05:05.680 --> 01:05:07.360
<v Speaker 1>hell. And that may be the case.</v>

01:05:07.360 --> 01:05:10.960
<v Speaker 1>I'm not going to sugarcoat it or dance around the point, the</v>

01:05:10.960 --> 01:05:11.760
<v Speaker 1>answer here.</v>

01:05:11.760 --> 01:05:12.960
<v Speaker 1>That could be the case.</v>

01:05:13.200 --> 01:05:17.440
<v Speaker 1>But we cannot necessarily say definitively one way or the other what</v>

01:05:17.440 --> 01:05:20.960
<v Speaker 1>happens because God has not revealed it to us in His Word.</v>

01:05:20.960 --> 01:05:24.800
<v Speaker 1>All He has revealed to us is that there is most certainly</v>

01:05:26.160 --> 01:05:30.960
<v Speaker 1>some point where you are certainly damned if you sin and do</v>

01:05:30.960 --> 01:05:34.480
<v Speaker 1>not believe in Christ and all are sinners, right?</v>

01:05:34.480 --> 01:05:37.520
<v Speaker 1>This is not like the you know, the age of innocence or</v>

01:05:37.520 --> 01:05:40.880
<v Speaker 1>whatever the Baptist try to teach, because that's the problem.</v>

01:05:40.880 --> 01:05:43.680
<v Speaker 1>It's not in scripture.</v>

01:05:43.680 --> 01:05:46.400
<v Speaker 1>So that's why we baptize infants.</v>

01:05:46.400 --> 01:05:48.240
<v Speaker 1>That's why we teach infants the faith.</v>

01:05:48.240 --> 01:05:49.360
<v Speaker 1>Children the faith, right?</v>

01:05:49.360 --> 01:05:51.120
<v Speaker 1>Infants don't learn very well.</v>

01:05:51.120 --> 01:05:51.200
<v Speaker 1>But</v>

01:05:52.640 --> 01:05:56.480
<v Speaker 1>because scripture is silent on this, we put our faith and our</v>

01:05:56.480 --> 01:05:58.960
<v Speaker 1>trust in the things that God has given us, and the things</v>

01:05:58.960 --> 01:06:01.840
<v Speaker 1>that God has said will give us the free gift of faith,</v>

01:06:01.840 --> 01:06:05.360
<v Speaker 1>the things that He has said do save, baptism now saves you.</v>

01:06:05.360 --> 01:06:10.160
<v Speaker 1>So So we don't know for the children of unbelievers.</v>

01:06:10.160 --> 01:06:12.480
<v Speaker 1>I would not want to be in that position.</v>

01:06:12.480 --> 01:06:16.080
<v Speaker 1>So the answer is to be a believer and to rest secure</v>

01:06:16.080 --> 01:06:18.640
<v Speaker 1>in that and to rest secure the promises for you and your</v>

01:06:18.640 --> 01:06:19.440
<v Speaker 1>children</v>

01:06:37.200 --> 01:06:42.800
<v Speaker 1>I think I will take this as the last question for this</v>

01:06:43.200 --> 01:06:55.040
<v Speaker 1>week.</v>

01:06:56.320 --> 01:06:58.000
<v Speaker 1>Well maybe maybe one more.</v>

01:06:58.000 --> 01:07:02.960
<v Speaker 1>Someone asked about Cain and Abel.</v>

01:07:03.040 --> 01:07:05.040
<v Speaker 1>So question fifteen.</v>

01:07:05.040 --> 01:07:07.360
<v Speaker 1>As an expert in politics, what do you think will be the</v>

01:07:07.360 --> 01:07:10.560
<v Speaker 1>fifth era in the US and what will it mean for Christianity</v>

01:07:10.560 --> 01:07:10.880
<v Speaker 1>worldwide</v>

01:07:11.760 --> 01:07:14.000
<v Speaker 1>and how do we make the best of what's to come.</v>

01:07:14.000 --> 01:07:17.520
<v Speaker 1>So at this point there are really two outcomes that are on</v>

01:07:17.520 --> 01:07:18.320
<v Speaker 1>the table.</v>

01:07:18.320 --> 01:07:20.160
<v Speaker 1>We win or we lose.</v>

01:07:20.160 --> 01:07:22.720
<v Speaker 1>And that sort of goes you know Yeah.</v>

01:07:22.720 --> 01:07:24.320
<v Speaker 1>E expert opinion there, right?</v>

01:07:24.320 --> 01:07:24.960
<v Speaker 1>Very simple.</v>

01:07:24.960 --> 01:07:27.120
<v Speaker 1>It's gonna be tails or heads.</v>

01:07:27.280 --> 01:07:27.600
<v Speaker 1>But</v>

01:07:29.920 --> 01:07:34.240
<v Speaker 1>if we lose, then what we're looking at and I have to</v>

01:07:34.240 --> 01:07:37.440
<v Speaker 1>think about how to phrase my answer so that I don't get</v>

01:07:37.440 --> 01:07:42.720
<v Speaker 1>myself flagged for eighteen things all at once with one video.</v>

01:07:42.720 --> 01:07:46.560
<v Speaker 1>It is a war of annihilation, is what we are currently facing.</v>

01:07:46.560 --> 01:07:49.440
<v Speaker 1>And I think the outcome of a war of a war of</v>

01:07:49.440 --> 01:07:52.880
<v Speaker 1>annihilation goes without saying, given that it's there in the name.</v>

01:07:52.880 --> 01:07:58.080
<v Speaker 1>So there is no future for Christianity in the sense we have</v>

01:07:58.080 --> 01:08:00.800
<v Speaker 1>long enjoyed it over a course of centuries, in the sense of</v>

01:08:00.800 --> 01:08:07.840
<v Speaker 1>Christendom, if we lose God will preserve some remnant, but a remnant</v>

01:08:07.840 --> 01:08:09.120
<v Speaker 1>may be just that.</v>

01:08:09.120 --> 01:08:13.600
<v Speaker 1>Very tiny, sporadically placed, out of power and persecuted.</v>

01:08:13.600 --> 01:08:16.000
<v Speaker 1>That's happened before, it could happen again.</v>

01:08:16.000 --> 01:08:21.040
<v Speaker 1>If we win, it won't be the United States when we're done.</v>

01:08:21.040 --> 01:08:24.720
<v Speaker 1>It will be America still, because the nation will remain, but it</v>

01:08:24.720 --> 01:08:27.200
<v Speaker 1>will be a different political entity and that will be very good</v>

01:08:27.200 --> 01:08:30.560
<v Speaker 1>news for Christians around the world because then we can actually use</v>

01:08:30.560 --> 01:08:34.000
<v Speaker 1>the immense might and blessing of this nation that God has given</v>

01:08:34.000 --> 01:08:38.240
<v Speaker 1>to us to actually pursue God's ends and support our Christian brothers</v>

01:08:38.240 --> 01:08:39.120
<v Speaker 1>and sisters around the world.</v>

01:08:39.120 --> 01:08:42.320
<v Speaker 1>World. I have no problem with that sort of interventionism.</v>

01:08:42.320 --> 01:08:43.600
<v Speaker 1>I think that's a good thing.</v>

01:08:43.600 --> 01:08:46.960
<v Speaker 1>And I've said before, I have no problem with imperialism either.</v>

01:08:46.960 --> 01:08:49.040
<v Speaker 1>I think that that can be done well, I think that can</v>

01:08:49.040 --> 01:08:50.400
<v Speaker 1>be a good thing.</v>

01:08:50.400 --> 01:08:52.960
<v Speaker 1>So if we win, it will certainly be a good thing for</v>

01:08:52.960 --> 01:08:56.880
<v Speaker 1>Christianity and we obviously owe it first and foremost to help our</v>

01:08:56.880 --> 01:09:00.800
<v Speaker 1>brothers over in Europe if we get things sorted out here more</v>

01:09:00.800 --> 01:09:03.360
<v Speaker 1>quickly than they get things sorted out there, which I think is</v>

01:09:03.360 --> 01:09:04.480
<v Speaker 1>pretty likely</v>

01:09:06.960 --> 01:09:08.880
<v Speaker 1>Question sixteen.</v>

01:09:08.880 --> 01:09:12.640
<v Speaker 1>The way Cain acted and behaved around God suggests that he saw</v>

01:09:12.640 --> 01:09:15.920
<v Speaker 1>God as some sort of high ranking human, not the creator.</v>

01:09:15.920 --> 01:09:17.600
<v Speaker 1>It just doesn't add up.</v>

01:09:17.600 --> 01:09:20.880
<v Speaker 1>Sounds a lot like an old story or fable with a moral</v>

01:09:20.880 --> 01:09:24.080
<v Speaker 1>to the story, not history.</v>

01:09:24.080 --> 01:09:24.400
<v Speaker 1>So</v>

01:09:25.280 --> 01:09:29.440
<v Speaker 1>let's look at Genesis.</v>

01:09:29.440 --> 01:09:34.560
<v Speaker 1>So let me pull up logos here and pull up Genesis 4.</v>

01:09:38.240 --> 01:09:41.760
<v Speaker 1>I think this will be the the last question for this week</v>

01:09:48.240 --> 01:09:51.840
<v Speaker 1>Obviously the names in this are very literally transliterated from the Greek</v>

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<v Speaker 1>because I'm looking at the nets, so just ignore that.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>And she, speaking of Eve, proceeded to bear his brother Abel, and</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Abel became a herder of sheep, but Cain was tilling the earth.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>And it came about after some days that Cain brought to the</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Lord an offering of the fruits of the earth, and Abel he</v>

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<v Speaker 1>also brought her the firstlings of his sheep and of their fat</v>

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<v Speaker 1>portions. And God looked upon Abel and upon his gifts, but on</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Cain and on his offering he was not intent.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>And it distressed Cain exceedingly, and he collapsed in countenance.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>And the Lord God said to Cain, Why have you become deeply</v>

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<v Speaker 1>grieved, and why has your countenance collapsed?</v>

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<v Speaker 1>And if you offer correctly, but do not divide correctly, have you</v>

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<v Speaker 1>not sinned?</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Be still his recourse is on is to you, and you will</v>

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<v Speaker 1>rule over him.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>We'll skip ahead here a little bit.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>For Cain's response to God, I think is sort of the key</v>

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<v Speaker 1>part here.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>And Cain said to the Lord, My guilt is too great for</v>

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<v Speaker 1>me to be forgiven, if to day you are driving me out</v>

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<v Speaker 1>from off the earth and I shall be hidden from your face,</v>

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<v Speaker 1>then I shall be groaning and trembling on the earth, and it</v>

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<v Speaker 1>will be that anyone who finds me will kill me.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>And the Lord God said to him, Not so, anyone who kills</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Cain will let loose seven acts of vengeance</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Then Cain went away from the presence of God and lived in</v>

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<v Speaker 1>the land of Nod over against Edom.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>So I don't necessarily know where someone would get the argument that</v>

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<v Speaker 1>this is</v>

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<v Speaker 1>about a high-ranking man instead of God, because</v>

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<v Speaker 1>this very much doesn't read as sort of how one interacts with</v>

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<v Speaker 1>a king.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>This is something more than a king, something stronger, something more powerful</v>

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<v Speaker 1>than a king.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>And also bear in mind, this is literally the second generation of</v>

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<v Speaker 1>human beings.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Adam walked with God in the garden.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Adam undoubtedly told his sons, like, this is God.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>This is not some random man walking around.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>This is God.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>And I don't think that it would have been something subtle.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>I think it would have been very obvious to those interacting with</v>

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<v Speaker 1>God, this is not just another man, this is God.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>And so Cain's response seems to be extreme.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>It seems to be out of the sort of magnitude we would</v>

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<v Speaker 1>expect if he were simply dealing with a king.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>So I don't know where necessarily you got the idea from, if</v>

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<v Speaker 1>it's your own idea or from a particular book</v>

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<v Speaker 1>but</v>

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think that it necessarily stands up when you look at</v>

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<v Speaker 1>just even the it's obviously very short text, the Cain and Abel</v>

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<v Speaker 1>narrative is a short text.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>But the way that he interacts seems very clear that he knows</v>

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<v Speaker 1>he's dealing with God.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>And like I said, Adam would have told him.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Adam walked with God.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Adam knew God.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Adam knew this man is God.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>And he would have told his sons.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>And also bear in mind, we're dealing with individuals here shortly after</v>

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<v Speaker 1>the fall, not long after the fall.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>These men are relatively capable men.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>They are intelligent, they are probably more spiritually attuned in ways than</v>

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<v Speaker 1>we are.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>We can't say exactly what the effects cumulatively of the fall are</v>

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<v Speaker 1>on us versus these individuals, but they probably excel us in a</v>

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<v Speaker 1>number of ways, excelled us in a number of ways, and probably</v>

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<v Speaker 1>still will in the new creation.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Not Cain probably, we probably won't meet him, but Abel certainly, right?</v>

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<v Speaker 1>So I think it's pretty clear that he very much knew he</v>

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<v Speaker 1>was dealing with God and would not have any doubts about that</v>

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<v Speaker 1>fact. And so being driven away from the face from the presence</v>

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<v Speaker 1>of God is such a big deal to him because he's being</v>

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<v Speaker 1>driven away from the presence of God.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Just being driven out from the presence of a king is not</v>

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<v Speaker 1>that big of a deal, particularly when you're a farmer.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>He could have just set up, you know, ten miles away and</v>

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<v Speaker 1>started farming again or whatever.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>So I don't think that from just the narrative itself you can</v>

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<v Speaker 1>really justify the argument presented.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>So I I do see there are more questions in the chat</v>

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm just going to have to add them to my growing</v>

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<v Speaker 1>list of questions because I think that I'll probably call it here</v>

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<v Speaker 1>for this week.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>So I think that is going to be it for this week.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>If your question is in the chat, I will try to grab</v>

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<v Speaker 1>it and paste it into my ongoing list.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Like I said, OBS, I the week that everything goes perfectly fine,</v>

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<v Speaker 1>I'm going to assume that my house is going to catch fire</v>

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<v Speaker 1>when I hit record, because nothing ever goes completely right.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>This week it was almost, but the chat window in OBS is</v>

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<v Speaker 1>still spinning saying it's loading.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>So I've had to that's why I'm looking back and forth.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>I'm looking at the chat over here to try and bring it</v>

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<v Speaker 1>up and copy those questions over.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>So as usual, the best way to submit the questions is indeed</v>

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<v Speaker 1>via the forum because that way it's on my site.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>That is my site.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>I do control that and update it and everything.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>It's on my server.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>So that way I can organize them more easily.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>I can link to them so people can read them and see</v>

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<v Speaker 1>them. It just makes things neater and it's it's easier for me</v>

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<v Speaker 1>and easier for the archive ultimately, which is part of the goal</v>

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<v Speaker 1>here. So that's the preferred way to submit questions, but by all</v>

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<v Speaker 1>means you can submit them them in the chat.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>That's fine.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>I try to notice those.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>I look at the chat as I'm going through this.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>You can submit them to me via telegram, via either DM if</v>

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<v Speaker 1>you happen to be able to DM me on Telegram.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>If not, you can submit them via the Telegram group.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Or you can submit them on X.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>I try to read through my notifications.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>If I miss it, feel free to tag me again.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Sometimes X doesn't show me things because you know, X.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>At any rate, thank you for those who submitted questions and thank</v>

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<v Speaker 1>you for participating in chat and for your time.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>I'm always glad to do this, and I will see you next</v>

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<v Speaker 1>week. Make sure that you have a great weekend and go to</v>

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<v Speaker 1>church on Sunday.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe next week I'll actually manage to do this on Thursday, just</v>

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<v Speaker 1>sort of depends how my week goes, but Thursday or Friday.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>So at any rate, have a good weekend and until next week.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>God bless.</v>