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<v Speaker 2>Welcome to the Stone Choir Podcast.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>I am Corey J.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>Mahler. And I'm still woe.</v>

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On

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<v Speaker 3>today's Stone Choir, we are concluding the seventh part Septuagent series that</v>

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<v Speaker 3>began some time ago.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>This is entirely a part two of the previous episode, so this</v>

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<v Speaker 3>intro is going to be very brief because the intro for this</v>

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<v Speaker 3>episode is quite literally the intro for the previous episode.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>We are continuing right where we left off in the New Testament.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>As we said, the New Testament is our closing argument for the</v>

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<v Speaker 3>Septuagint. The structure of this particular episode is going to be very</v>

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<v Speaker 3>simple. We're going to speed run through 44 verses in the New</v>

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<v Speaker 3>Testament that are quoted from the Septuagint exclusively and cannot possibly be</v>

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<v Speaker 3>from any Hebrew foreloga.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>And then Cory and I are each going to give our closing</v>

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<v Speaker 3>statements. Basically we're presenting the evidence, we're gonna close out the case</v>

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<v Speaker 3>and then we're going to wrap everything up.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>And so that we don't repeat ourselves because we basically say pretty</v>

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<v Speaker 3>much the same thing.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>We've obviously reached the same conclusions and all this.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>My conclusion is simply going to be a recitation of the facts</v>

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<v Speaker 3>that we presented.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>Basically, I'm going to pull the previous seven episodes back into everybody's</v>

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<v Speaker 3>memory so that warm up those caches and get your contacts window</v>

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<v Speaker 3>refilled with the relevant facts so that the arguments we make are</v>

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<v Speaker 3>in the context of everything we've presented.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>The next verse that we're going to be looking at from the</v>

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<v Speaker 3>New Testament begins in Romans in the previous episode we went through</v>

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<v Speaker 3>Matthew, Mark, Luke, John, and Acts, which included all four gospel writers,</v>

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<v Speaker 3>and at the end we're already looking at Paul himself quoting the</v>

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<v Speaker 3>Septuagint in Acts.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>Today we're going to be going from Romans through Revelation.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>First verse is Romans two twenty-four, which is a quotation of Isaiah</v>

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<v Speaker 3>fifty-two five.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>The New Testament reads, For just as it is written, the name</v>

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<v Speaker 3>of God is being blasphemed among the nations because of you.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>And the Septuagint says, Because of you, my name is continually blasphemed</v>

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<v Speaker 3>among the nations.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>So slightly different word order, exactly the same wording.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>The rabbinic text says, My name is continually despised all day long.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>So there is neither because of you nor among the nations.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>So yet again we have an example where the rabbis deleted something</v>

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<v Speaker 3>that says you Jews are doing something wicked, and because of you</v>

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<v Speaker 3>wicked Jews, the nations, that is us, the rest of the people</v>

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<v Speaker 3>in the world, for whom the gospel is intended, despise me.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>That was true then?</v>

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<v Speaker 3>It's certainly true today.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>This sort of false doctrine when it's coming from those who should</v>

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<v Speaker 3>be the believers, when unbelievers see it, they're never going to believe</v>

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<v Speaker 3>in the true God.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>One of the single most effective things a Satan can do to</v>

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<v Speaker 3>undermine the church is to have the church itself spreading filth.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>And when we're relying on rabbis, that's what we get.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>So right off the bat in Romans, the very first quote, is</v>

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<v Speaker 3>the rabbis specifically altering something where God points out that that's what</v>

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<v Speaker 3>they do.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>One more thing I want you to note here in this first</v>

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<v Speaker 2>example before we move to the second one.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>As it is written, that phrase occurs many times in your New</v>

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<v Speaker 2>Testament. Pay attention to that.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>There's a reason they're saying, as it is written.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>They have access to what is written.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>That's Gagrapti in the Greek there.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>That occurs in many of these quotations, that occurs in many places</v>

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<v Speaker 2>in the New Testament, think about what that means.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>And so the next example is from Romans three four citing to</v>

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<v Speaker 2>Psalm fifty one four, using the numbering with which we are all</v>

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<v Speaker 2>familiar, Psalm fifty in the Septuagint numbering.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>The ESV reads By no means, let God be true, though every</v>

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<v Speaker 2>one were a liar, as it is written, that you may be</v>

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<v Speaker 2>justified in your words, and prevail when you are judged.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>And then from the Septuagint, so that you may be justified in</v>

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<v Speaker 2>your words, and be victorious when you go to the law.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>The same sentiment, same statement, then from the rabbinic text.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>So you are just in your sentence and right in your judgement.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>Incidentally, the translations play a little bit of a game, not necessarily</v>

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<v Speaker 2>intentionally in this case, but the underlying verbs there in the Greek</v>

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<v Speaker 2>are identical.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>So it is even more of a quote than you would believe</v>

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<v Speaker 2>if you were simply reading it in the English without looking at</v>

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<v Speaker 2>the underlying Greek.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>this is a case where there's a complete inversion of when you</v>

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<v Speaker 3>are judged to when you judge.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>That's quite a radical difference theologically.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>And yet again, we have God's wrath diminished by the changes the</v>

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<v Speaker 3>rabbis made The next quotation is from Romans nine twenty-five of Hosea</v>

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<v Speaker 3>two twenty-three.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>Paul says, as indeed he says in Hosea, those who were not</v>

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<v Speaker 3>my people I will call my people, and her who was not</v>

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<v Speaker 3>beloved I will call beloved.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>And the Septuagint says, I will love her who is not loved.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>So the loved beloved wording is what is preserved there.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>The rabbinic text is quite different in a couple ways.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>It reads, And I will have mercy on no mercy, and I</v>

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<v Speaker 3>will say to not my people, you are my people.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>So in many of the Bibles we have now no mercy and</v>

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<v Speaker 3>not my people are capitalized, as though those are proper names for</v>

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<v Speaker 3>whom God is referring to.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>So what we have removed here, the beloved in love is termed</v>

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<v Speaker 3>to mercy and then and then pity.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>It's a fundamental change in the wording which obviously can't be preserved</v>

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<v Speaker 3>in a manner that survives translation.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>It's clear that the Septuagint is being quoted.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>And notably this is Hosea, this is one of the minor prophets,</v>

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<v Speaker 3>as one of two quotations.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>I highlight that to point out that once again we're not talking</v>

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<v Speaker 3>about the Pentateuch.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>When the New Testament quotes the Septuagint, it is indiscriminate about which</v>

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<v Speaker 3>books it chooses.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>And sadly, this is also something we should take as a warning</v>

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<v Speaker 3>when we do things like make the Reformation argument that, oh well,</v>

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<v Speaker 3>the books that we put in the back of the New Testament,</v>

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<v Speaker 3>they're not as important.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>You will not find that hermeneutic in the way Jesus and the</v>

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<v Speaker 3>apostles argue from the Old Testament.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>There is no unimportant book in the Old Testament.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>There's no book in the Old Testament from which we do not</v>

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<v Speaker 3>derive doctrine.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>That is a very dangerous premise to introduce into a circumstance where</v>

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<v Speaker 3>we go around saying that all of Scripture is breathed out by</v>

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<v Speaker 3>God. Which is it?</v>

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<v Speaker 3>If God says it, that means it's really important.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>So when we see Paul putting quotations of Hosea right alongside Isaiah</v>

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<v Speaker 3>and all the others, that means something.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>It means something in terms of us taking seriously wherever we find</v>

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<v Speaker 3>the Greek scripture.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>This is another instance where the underlying Greek word is again identical.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>And so just because the English words are related they are similar,</v>

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<v Speaker 2>you can see that congruence there, that agreement between the New Testament</v>

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<v Speaker 2>quotation and the Old Testament.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>It is in the Greek the same word.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>The next example is Romans nine twenty seven, citing to Isaiah ten</v>

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<v Speaker 2>twenty two.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>And Isaiah cries out concerning Israel, though the number of the sons</v>

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<v Speaker 2>of Israel be as the sand of the sea, only a remnant</v>

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<v Speaker 2>of them will be saved.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>And then from the Septuagint, and if the people of Israel become</v>

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<v Speaker 2>like the sand of the sea, the remnant of them will be</v>

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<v Speaker 2>saved. There are a few cases when we are going through these</v>

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<v Speaker 2>examples, where I have slightly changed the wording as it may read</v>

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<v Speaker 2>literally in whatever translation of the Bible you have.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>When I have done that it is because the underlying Greek term</v>

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<v Speaker 2>is exactly identical, and I don't want to have to note that</v>

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<v Speaker 2>every single time And so if I've made them match, it's because</v>

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<v Speaker 2>they do in fact match in the Greek.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>The Masoretic text is instead only a remnant of them shall return.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>The word there, this time I will note it for return, Is</v>

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<v Speaker 2>identical. So is saved incidentally.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>And continuing with Romans 9, 27 and 28, again, this is quoting</v>

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<v Speaker 3>us Isaiah 10, 22, and 23.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>We split these in two because they're actually multiple parts where there's</v>

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<v Speaker 3>sufficient differences that the numbering of how you want to choose to</v>

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<v Speaker 3>the forty-four we're we're referring to, it's not a magic number, it's</v>

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<v Speaker 3>not special.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>This is just the way we're grouping these things.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>The same passage is Cory just read.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>I'm gonna highlight a different portion of it.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>The Septuagint says he will finish the work and cut short in</v>

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<v Speaker 3>righteousness, because the Lord will make a short work in all the</v>

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<v Speaker 3>world. Whereas Rabinic's hex says, destruction is decreed overflowing with righteousness, for</v>

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<v Speaker 3>the Lord God of hosts will make a full end, as decreed</v>

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<v Speaker 3>in the midst of the earth.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>So the phrase cut short is verbatim in the Septuagint, which is</v>

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<v Speaker 3>not the case in the rabbinic.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>And also the phrase that's in Greek, upon the inhabited world, which</v>

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<v Speaker 3>is in the accusative, is different in the Masoretic when you look</v>

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<v Speaker 3>at the parts of speech that are used.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>So where the Greek says upon the inhabitive world, the Hebrew says</v>

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<v Speaker 3>upon the earth, which sounds the same in English, except in Hebrew</v>

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<v Speaker 3>it's in the genitive case, which is possessive.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>So in the midst of the earth, saying that in a possessive</v>

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<v Speaker 3>sense versus accusive changes the nature of whom is doing the possessing</v>

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<v Speaker 3>or whom is doing the occupying.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>So it's a subtle shift.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>And again, we're not trying to make a bunch of theological points</v>

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<v Speaker 3>here. We're specifically highlighting their clear textual differences where Paul is simply</v>

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<v Speaker 3>quoting the Greek.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>But it is notable that some of these differences do have knock</v>

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<v Speaker 3>on effects to how one would theologically interpret some of these passages.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>Just a quick note on my previous comment about Remnant because I</v>

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<v Speaker 2>know it's going to come up at some point in the future,</v>

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<v Speaker 2>someone's going to object to what I said.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>To be entirely specific, it is the same core word there.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>Because the Greek uses two slightly different variants of the same word.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>You have hupalima in the New Testament and Katalima in the Old</v>

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<v Speaker 2>Testament. Same core word, slightly different.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>In terms of nuance.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>We have many of those examples in English as well, so you're</v>

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<v Speaker 2>all familiar with that.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>So the next example is Romans 9:29, citing to Isaiah 1:9.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>And as Isaiah predicted, if the Lord of hosts had not left</v>

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<v Speaker 2>us offspring, we would have been like Sodom, and become like Gomorrah.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>And then from the Septuagint, and if the Lord of hosts had</v>

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<v Speaker 2>not left us offspring, we would have been like Sodom, and become</v>

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<v Speaker 2>like Gomorra.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>This is one of the cases and this happened as I was</v>

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<v Speaker 2>taking notes for this episode.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>My notes increasingly just become Greek near the end, because in many</v>

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<v Speaker 2>cases it is essentially an exact quote, what we would literally call</v>

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<v Speaker 2>a quote in English.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>Sometimes there's a particle difference here and there.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>That's something that happens, sometimes in Greek.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>We do that in English as well, but I started adding the</v>

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<v Speaker 2>Greek in because I can look at the two verses in the</v>

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<v Speaker 2>Greek and they're identical.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>There's a difference of maybe two words in this case.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>Whereas in the rabbinic version it says, had not left us a</v>

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<v Speaker 2>few survivors.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>The Greek's identical, the rabbis gave us something else.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>It's very clear the New Testament author is citing to the Greek.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>He's basically quoting it as we would call a quote in English,</v>

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<v Speaker 2>which is to say literal.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>And the Greek word that's used there for offspring that how it's</v>

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<v Speaker 3>translated in some septuagent translations is sperma.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>It should really be translated seed.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>And And uh Lexum and Brenton both use seed.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>That's very biblical language that is used in the New Testament to</v>

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<v Speaker 3>correlate Jesus to the promise that was made to Abraham and to</v>

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<v Speaker 3>Jacob. So that distinction, that removal of seed and replacing it with</v>

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<v Speaker 3>remnant, also has theological knock on effects.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>And it's you can't possibly mistranslate one for the other There.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>Next example, still in Romans 9.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>This is I think the fourth or fifth example we have in</v>

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<v Speaker 3>Romans 9, all right in a row.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>If you go read Romans 9, 10 and 11, because most of</v>

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<v Speaker 3>these quotations from those, when you see whom Paul is addressing, it</v>

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<v Speaker 3>becomes kind of interesting that he's talking all this Greek to these</v>

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<v Speaker 3>people, not what you'd expect based on what we're told about the</v>

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<v Speaker 3>context in the New Testament.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>Romans nine hundred thirty three and ten eleven both quote Isaiah twenty</v>

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<v Speaker 3>eight sixteen.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>Paul says, Just as it is written, Look I am laying in</v>

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<v Speaker 3>Zion a stone that will cause people to stumble stumble, and a</v>

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<v Speaker 3>rock that will make them fall, yet the one who believes in</v>

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<v Speaker 3>him will not be put to shame.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>The Septuagint repeats, the one who believes in him will not be</v>

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<v Speaker 3>put to shame identically.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>Whereas the rabbinic text says, He who believes will not be in</v>

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<v Speaker 3>haste. So the put to shame</v>

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<v Speaker 3>and in him is replaced with an entirely different notion, not be</v>

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<v Speaker 3>in haste.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>This is one that both neuters a Christological prophecy and really fundamentally</v>

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<v Speaker 3>changes the meaning, as is usual, to something that's like, what does</v>

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<v Speaker 3>that even mean?</v>

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<v Speaker 3>He will not be in haste.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>It's one of these things where when you read in the old</v>

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<v Speaker 3>testament, like, I don't know, it's just some weird shamitic saying, we</v>

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<v Speaker 3>have no idea what they're talking about.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>Basically it's reducing the Old Testament to magic Bible language.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>That's rubbish.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>It makes perfect sense, but it only makes sense in the original</v>

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<v Speaker 3>Greek.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>The next example still in the Book of Romans, Romans 10, 18,</v>

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<v Speaker 2>citing to Psalm 19:4, again using the numbering with which we're all</v>

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<v Speaker 2>familiar. Their voice is gone out to all the earth, and their</v>

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<v Speaker 2>words to the ends of the world.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>And then from the Septuagint, their voice went out to all the</v>

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<v Speaker 2>earth, and their words to the ends of the world.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>This is another case where I just took the Greek and stuck</v>

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<v Speaker 2>it in my notes because they're identical.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>The Rabbinic text has their line is gone out through all the</v>

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<v Speaker 2>earth. They've just changed this to something that is practically again incoherent</v>

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<v Speaker 2>like the previous example.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>It's something again that we'll read in the Old Testament and just</v>

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<v Speaker 2>assume that this must have some sort of meaning.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>But of course it has a meaning when you read it in</v>

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<v Speaker 2>the Greek, when you have what it actually means, their voice has</v>

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<v Speaker 2>gone out to all the earth.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>Incidentally, the ESV deliberately chooses the Septuagint over the rabbinic in this</v>

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<v Speaker 2>case, and in the footnote for this it just says their measuring</v>

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<v Speaker 2>line. In other words, footnoting what the actual rabbinic text says, the</v>

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<v Speaker 2>text on which the ESV is supposedly based, but using the Greek,</v>

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<v Speaker 2>because the Greek makes sense, and the Hebrew does not.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>And again, this is a case where the Greek is an actual</v>

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<v Speaker 2>quote. This is This is what we would call a quote in</v>

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<v Speaker 2>English.</v>

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The

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<v Speaker 3>next example is Romans eleven, verse ten, which is quoting Psalm sixty</v>

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<v Speaker 3>nine twenty-three, or if you look in the Septuagint sixty eight twenty-four.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>And David says, Let their table become a snare and a trap,</v>

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<v Speaker 3>a stumbling block and a retribution for them.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>Let their eyes be darkened so that they may not see, and</v>

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<v Speaker 3>make their backs bend continually.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>And the Septuagint says, bend their back always.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>Whereas the rabbinic text says, make their loins continually tremble.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>Yet again, this is both not a match literally, so clearly not</v>

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<v Speaker 3>a quote, and the Hebrew is unclear to be charitable.</v>

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And

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<v Speaker 2>again the Greek is a literal quote.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>I'm looking at the two here in Greek.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>Exact same.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>A funny little aside from the previous example before I give the</v>

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<v Speaker 2>next one, one of the Jewish translations at which I looked actually</v>

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<v Speaker 2>used the Septuagint to correct their own Hebrew, because they also agreed</v>

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<v Speaker 2>that it was incoherent.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>Which is incredible.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>Sort of</v>

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<v Speaker 3>a deep irony, but it's actually perfect because as we made the</v>

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<v Speaker 3>case in the first episode, until Jesus came and they murdered him,</v>

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<v Speaker 3>they were all using the Greek.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>Exactly. The Septuagint was the authoritative Bible Bible of the Jews of</v>

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<v Speaker 3>Jesus Day, which is why everyone's citing it in the New Testament.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>So it's not actually bizarre Hebrew scholarship for them to cite the</v>

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<v Speaker 3>Septuagint. It was authoritative with them until they replaced it.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>It's they're the ones who became liars when they rejected the stone</v>

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<v Speaker 3>that became the capstone, and now we have seminaries teaching the same</v>

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<v Speaker 3>thing the rabbis</v>

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do. The

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<v Speaker 2>next example still in the book of Romans, you may notice a</v>

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<v Speaker 2>theme here, Romans eleven twenty six B citing to Isaiah fifty nine</v>

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<v Speaker 2>twenty. And in this way all Israel will be saved, as it</v>

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<v Speaker 2>is written again Gropti, the deliverer will come from Zion, he will</v>

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<v Speaker 2>banish ungodliness from Jacob.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>And the Septuagint, the deliverer will come for the sake of Zion,</v>

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<v Speaker 2>and he will turn ungodliness back from Jacob.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>The Rabbinic text has, however, and a redeemer will come to Zion,</v>

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<v Speaker 2>to those in Jacob who turn from transgression.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>This is an inversion.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>This is a completely different statement in the Rabbinic text.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>In the Septuagint this is a clear prophecy of the Savior of</v>

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<v Speaker 2>Christ. In the Rabbinic text this is simply the promise of reward</v>

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<v Speaker 2>for those who turn from transgression.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>It is a fundamentally different saying, it changes a theology entirely.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>You basically go from having a Savior who is going to come</v>

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<v Speaker 2>and save us from our sins, which is exactly what the gospel</v>

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<v Speaker 2>is to works righteousness.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>That's what the rabbis have handed us</v>

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And

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<v Speaker 3>that's made very clear in the last portion of the quote in</v>

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<v Speaker 3>Romans 11, 26.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>It says, He will banish ungodliness from Jacob.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>And then another quote, and this will be my covenant with them</v>

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<v Speaker 3>when I take away their sins.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>So Paul very directly connects God removing the sins of his people</v>

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<v Speaker 3>to what else is going on here.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>So when the rabbis removed that portion, they were specifically denying what</v>

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<v Speaker 3>Paul quotes and what Paul confesses in Romans.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>Next example from the very next verse, Romans 11, 27, which is</v>

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<v Speaker 3>quoting Isaiah 27, 9, and is quoting Isaiah 59, 21.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>So as I mentioned in the previous episode, Isaiah is quoted, I</v>

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<v Speaker 3>believe, 29 times.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>in the New Testament exclusively from the Septuagint.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>It's overwhelmingly.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>Forty-four percent of the quotes that we're looking at are from Isaiah.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>So as I mentioned last week, when someone brings up the so-called</v>

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<v Speaker 3>Great Isaiah scroll, you need to laugh at them and tell them</v>

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<v Speaker 3>to shut up because the New Testament rejects it out of hand.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>So the difference that we are highlighting here has to do with</v>

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<v Speaker 3>the first person promise when I take away their sins, which when</v>

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<v Speaker 3>we look at Isaiah twenty seven nine, the Septuagint says, Therefore shall</v>

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<v Speaker 3>the iniquity of Jacob be taken away, and this is his blessing,</v>

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<v Speaker 3>when I shall have taken away his sin.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>Whereas the Rabbinic text for Isaiah twenty seven nine says, Therefore by</v>

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<v Speaker 3>this guilt of Jacob will be atoned for, and this will be</v>

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<v Speaker 3>the fruit of the removal of his sin.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>So what is removed in this passage is the first person promise</v>

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<v Speaker 3>when I take away their sins.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>What the rabbis have done here is made it unclear that God</v>

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<v Speaker 3>is taking away their sins.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>Now, of course, as Christians, we know that that's the only possible</v>

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<v Speaker 3>way sins go away, but that's not what the rabbis taught.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>They taught completely different theology.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>And so this diminution of God's active participation in the removal of</v>

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<v Speaker 3>sin is both textually a difference that means this Isaiah quote can</v>

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<v Speaker 3>only possibly be coming from the Septuagint, but it's also a denial</v>

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<v Speaker 3>of Christ.</v>

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The

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<v Speaker 2>next example Romans eleven thirty four citing to Isaiah forty verse thirteen</v>

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<v Speaker 2>for who has known the mind of the Lord, or who has</v>

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<v Speaker 2>been his counselor?</v>

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<v Speaker 2>And then from the Septuagint, who has known the mind of the</v>

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<v Speaker 2>Lord, and who has been his counsellor to instruct him?</v>

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<v Speaker 2>The Rabbinic, however, has who has measured the spirit of the Lord,</v>

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<v Speaker 2>or what man shows him his counsel.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>It changed both of the two parts of this verse.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>Spirit is a completely different word from mind.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>It is the same word, it's the same phrase, incidentally, mutting to</v>

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<v Speaker 2>the Lord in the Greek there.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>Spirit is a different concept.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>It's capitalized in many of our Old Testaments because they're assuming it's</v>

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<v Speaker 2>a reference to the Holy Spirit, to the Holy Ghost.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>But that's not what we actually have in this verse.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>It's not what it says in the New Testament.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>Testament and it's not what it says in the Old Testament.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>And what man shows him his counsel, certainly we can read that</v>

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<v Speaker 2>through a Christian lens and try to make that consonant with what</v>

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<v Speaker 2>Scripture teaches, make that make sense, but again this is a case</v>

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<v Speaker 2>where the Hebrew is actually essentially gibberish, because who has been his</v>

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<v Speaker 2>counsellor makes perfect sense.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>What man shows him his counsel?</v>

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<v Speaker 2>This is going to depend on how you want to try to</v>

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<v Speaker 2>assign these pronouns and make this make sense.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>We shouldn't be looking at the Old Testament and trying to make</v>

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<v Speaker 2>a jumbled mess of Hebrew make sense.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>We have the Greek and it is an exact match to what</v>

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<v Speaker 2>is in the New Testament.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>Next we have Romans twelve nineteen, which is quoting Deuteronomy thirty two,</v>

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<v Speaker 3>thirty-five. Paul again says, For it is written, Vengeance is mine, I</v>

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<v Speaker 3>will repay, says the Lord.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>And And the Septuagint quotes, Vengeance is mine, I will repay.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>The rabbinic text says, Vengeance is mine and recompense.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>So the explicit promise I will repay is completely removed, and recompense</v>

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<v Speaker 3>is put in there, which you could say is sort of the</v>

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<v Speaker 3>same thing, but it's not a quote.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>The next example, Romans 14, 11, citing to again Isaiah 45 23.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>For it is written, As I live, says the Lord, every knee</v>

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<v Speaker 2>shall bow to me, and every tongue shall confess to God.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>The Septuagint, because to me every knee shall bow, and every tongue</v>

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<v Speaker 2>shall acknowledge God.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>The Rabbinicaz, instead, keeps every knee shall bow, but changes every tongue</v>

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<v Speaker 2>shall swear allegiance.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>There's a similar sentiment here, and that's the case in some of</v>

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<v Speaker 2>these examples, but it's very clear that what the New Testament is</v>

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<v Speaker 2>citing, what is being referenced there, is the Greek Old Testament, is</v>

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<v Speaker 2>the Septuagint, because it is not identical, shall swear allegiance and confess</v>

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<v Speaker 2>to God.</v>

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I

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<v Speaker 3>think I would argue that's even worse than that because it's almost</v>

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<v Speaker 3>describing this as teamwork.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>The bow to me is submission, but then I'm gonna take an</v>

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<v Speaker 3>oath as like Laura, I'm I'm on team God now.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>I'm a I'm a big party of this covenant.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>Whereas when you say confess to God, it's continuation of that submission.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>Next quote is from Romans 15 12, which is quoting Isaiah 11</v>

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<v Speaker 3>10. Paul.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>And again Isaiah says, The root of Jesse will come, even he</v>

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<v Speaker 3>who arises to rule the nations, in him will the nations hope.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>And the Septuagint repeats verbatim.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>In him the nations will hope.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>The rabbinic text says the nations will seek.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>So the differences between hope and seek, which are both very different</v>

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<v Speaker 3>words, cannot be a quote.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>And it's also a removal of the gospel.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>To say that the nations are seeking God, yeah, maybe, but for</v>

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<v Speaker 3>the nations to have hope in God makes them already believers.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>So it's a fundamental reduction of the gospel for us.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>The rabbinic changes were not only substantive, they were harmful.</v>

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And

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<v Speaker 2>they weren't haphazard.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>This is one of the kinds of changes they made to Scripture</v>

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<v Speaker 2>because they wanted to minimize the promises to those who are not</v>

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<v Speaker 2>Jewish. That was one of their overarching goals throughout these changes, and</v>

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<v Speaker 2>that is very obvious because this is a particular type of change</v>

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<v Speaker 2>that we see again and again and again.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>So the next example, moving on to a new book, but at</v>

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<v Speaker 2>the same time not, because we're still in Isaiah for the citation</v>

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<v Speaker 2>here, the reference here.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>1 Corinthians 2.16 citing to Isaiah 40, verse 13, a verse we</v>

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<v Speaker 2>already used previously, and of course this is notable because there is</v>

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<v Speaker 2>a different intended audience for this epistle, and he is still using</v>

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<v Speaker 2>the Greek, he is still citing to the Septuagint.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>For who has understood the mind of the Lord so as to</v>

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<v Speaker 2>instruct him, but we have the mind of Christ, and then from</v>

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<v Speaker 2>the Septuagint, and who has been his counselor to instruct him?</v>

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<v Speaker 2>I won't replicate the comments from earlier because again this is the</v>

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<v Speaker 2>same verse in Isaiah and essentially the same thing in the New</v>

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<v Speaker 2>Testament. But it is worth noting that to instruct him, which is</v>

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<v Speaker 2>the same Greek verb in both places, is simply absent from the</v>

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<v Speaker 2>rabbinic text.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>They just removed that part of the wor of that one verse.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>The next example is also from first Corinthians chapter fourteen, verse twenty-one,</v>

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<v Speaker 3>which is quoting Isaiah twenty-eight, eleven and twelve.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>Paul writes, By people of other tongues and by the lips of</v>

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<v Speaker 3>others I will speak to this people, and even then they will</v>

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<v Speaker 3>not listen to me, says the Lord.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>The Septuagint reads By reason of a different tongue and by another</v>

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<v Speaker 3>lip they will speak to this people, and they were not willing</v>

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<v Speaker 3>to hear.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>The Rabbinic text says, For by stammering lips in another tongue he</v>

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<v Speaker 3>will speak to this people this is rest, and yet they would</v>

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<v Speaker 3>not hear.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>So this cannot possibly be a quote from the rabbinic text because</v>

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<v Speaker 3>Paul's wording of other tongues or different tongues in lips of others,</v>

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<v Speaker 3>which is a form of refusal to listen, aligns exactly with the</v>

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<v Speaker 3>Septuagint vocabulary and structure.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>And it's not at all what the rabbis wrote with stammering lips.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>And this is a case where if you look at your English</v>

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<v Speaker 3>Bibles, some of them will go one way and some will go</v>

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<v Speaker 3>the other.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>If you look at Bible Hub for any of these, and it's</v>

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<v Speaker 3>actually a good idea to do that, you can search any of</v>

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<v Speaker 3>these Old Testament passages in Bible Hub and just scroll down and</v>

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<v Speaker 3>look through how the various translations choose to do these.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>You'll find that in some cases they're very consistent with the rabbinic.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>In some cases they're very consistent with the Septuagint.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>In some cases are all over the place.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>I have really come to despise translation committees in the process of</v>

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<v Speaker 3>this project because</v>

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<v Speaker 3>they are singularly untrustworthy.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>Because many of the times when you look in the footnotes, there's</v>

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<v Speaker 3>no footnote that says, Oh yeah, we use a septuagent here.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>They do not show you their cards because if they did it</v>

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<v Speaker 3>every time, they actually made changes from the Septuagint of the rabbinic</v>

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<v Speaker 3>text, they would have some explaining to do.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>There's still a lot of those footnotes in there, but there would</v>

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<v Speaker 3>be a lot more if they were honest.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>The next example, still in the book of First Corinthians, First Corinthians</v>

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<v Speaker 2>15, 54, citing to Isaiah 25.8, the next example will also be</v>

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<v Speaker 2>right in this place in First Corinthians When the perishable puts on</v>

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<v Speaker 2>the imperishable, and the mortal puts on immortality, then shall come to</v>

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<v Speaker 2>pass the saying that is written Death is swallowed up in victory.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>Then from the Septuagint, death having prevailed swallowed them up, and then</v>

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<v Speaker 2>the rabbinic says he will swallow up death forever.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>There's a pretty significant difference here, even if it is really the</v>

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<v Speaker 2>difference of that single word.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>You have the word forever in the rabbinic text which is not</v>

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<v Speaker 2>there in the New Testament citation.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>And so it's quite clear that the New Testament is again referencing</v>

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<v Speaker 2>the Greek because the author of the book was writing in Greek,</v>

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<v Speaker 2>and he was reading the Greek while he was doing so.</v>

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The

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<v Speaker 3>next example is the very next verse in 1 Corinthians 15, 55,</v>

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<v Speaker 3>quoting Hosea thirteen, fourteen.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>Paul writes, Where O death is your victory, where O death is</v>

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<v Speaker 3>your sting.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>And some textual variants read Hades for the second death, but the</v>

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<v Speaker 3>taunt is preserved.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>Septuagent Hosea says, Where is your penalty, O death?</v>

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<v Speaker 3>O Hades, where is your sting?</v>

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<v Speaker 3>Whereas the rabbinic, Hosea 13 says, I shall be your plagues, O</v>

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<v Speaker 3>death, I shall be your destruction, O Sheol.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>So the rabbinic as the original source is again excluded here because</v>

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<v Speaker 3>Paul's rhetorical questions in sting language reflect the interrogative taunt that's present</v>

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<v Speaker 3>in the Septuagint, whereas the rabbinic has declarative threats and not questions.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>There's another case where your Bible may well conceal that it's actually</v>

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<v Speaker 3>using the Septuagint wording.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>In fact I looked at the Lutheran study bible, which has very</v>

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<v Speaker 3>long note for this, and yet it still conceals the fact that</v>

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<v Speaker 3>they're actually using the Septuagint here.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>It's absolutely unforgivable what the Bible producers have been doing for generations</v>

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<v Speaker 3>with this stuff.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>Absolutely unforgivable.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>Just intolerable wickedness to conceal this.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>Because if they exposed every place where this was happening, we wouldn't</v>

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<v Speaker 3>been the ones to figure this out.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>Any random guy with the Bible would have seen so many of</v>

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<v Speaker 3>these, he would said, Hey, what's going</v>

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on

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And

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<v Speaker 2>of course the underlying Greek words there are identical in terms of</v>

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<v Speaker 2>victory, Nikkei and the word used for sting or goad, which languages</v>

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<v Speaker 2>often have many words for that, but it is identical here, Kentron.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>The next example still in the book of Corinthians, Corinthians one thirty</v>

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<v Speaker 2>one, and incidentally also Second Corinthians ten seventeen, boast citing to Jeremiah</v>

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<v Speaker 2>nine twenty four, so that as it is written, let the one</v>

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<v Speaker 2>who boasts boast in the Lord, and this is identical from the</v>

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<v Speaker 2>second citation to the other epistle to the Corinthians from the Septuagint,</v>

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<v Speaker 2>but let him who boasts boast in this, that he understands and</v>

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<v Speaker 2>knows that I am the Lord.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>Then from the</v>

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<v Speaker 2>Masoretic text that he understands and knows me that I am the</v>

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<v Speaker 2>Lord. The wording is changed, the wording is different.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>Incidentally, it's even more different if you look at the Jewish translations</v>

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<v Speaker 2>of their own text instead of the translations that we often have</v>

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<v Speaker 2>in our Old Testament again, whereas we've mentioned a number of times.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>The translators play games with how they handle the text because they</v>

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<v Speaker 2>often pull in the Greek in order to make the Hebrew either</v>

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<v Speaker 2>coherent or consonant with what they find in the New Testament.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>And so one of the Jewish translations, in this case the JPS,</v>

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<v Speaker 2>the nineteen eighty five version, but only in this should one glory,</v>

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<v Speaker 2>in his earnest devotion to me.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>That's not close at all to what we have here cited in</v>

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<v Speaker 2>first Corinthians and in Second Corinthians.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>In both epistles it is very clear that what is being used</v>

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<v Speaker 2>is the underlying Greek.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>The Septuagint is what is being quoted, not whatever this is the</v>

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<v Speaker 2>rabbis have in their text.</v>

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And

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<v Speaker 3>it's one of many places where the specific word that the rabbis</v>

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<v Speaker 3>deleted was Lord.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>We now move on to another quote from 2 Corinthians, which was</v>

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<v Speaker 3>split there between first and second with the previous one.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>This is Second Corinthians four thirteen, which is quoting Psalm one hundred</v>

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<v Speaker 3>sixteen verse ten, which in the Septuagint is one hundred fifteen verse</v>

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<v Speaker 3>one. If you're looking at certain books in the Old Testament, trying</v>

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<v Speaker 3>to look up Septuagint passages, it's really a pain in the butt.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>So sometimes we'll give both examples.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>When you dig into this stuff for yourself, if you want to</v>

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<v Speaker 3>do comparative stuff, get used to some pain.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>It's not pleasant.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>Because they're inconsistent.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>Some of the translations will use the same numbering that we're used</v>

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<v Speaker 3>to, some will use different numbering, and they're not even consistent when</v>

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<v Speaker 3>they use different numberings.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>It's always exciting even to figure out which verse you're actually looking</v>

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<v Speaker 3>at. Paul writes in second Corinthians four thirteen, but since we have</v>

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<v Speaker 3>the same spirit of faith as that shown in what has been</v>

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<v Speaker 3>written, I believed, therefore I spoke.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>We also believe, therefore we also speak.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>This is quoting I'll read from uh this is Septuagint Psalm 115:1.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>I believed, therefore I spoke.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>The rabbinic Psalm 116-10, as commonly rendered, I believed for or when</v>

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<v Speaker 3>I spoke, I am greatly afflicted.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>So the difference is the therefore, which is a concise clause that's</v>

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<v Speaker 3>mirrored exactly in the Septuagint.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>So it's a case where the syntax can only possibly match again</v>

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<v Speaker 3>quoting the Psalms, which was another one of the most quoted books.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>The quotation Paul provides can only possibly be from the Septuagint.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>Another instance of what we would actually call a quote in English</v>

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<v Speaker 2>if you look at the underlying Greek.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>The next example, this time from Galatians, Galatians 3:10, citing to Deuteronomy</v>

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<v Speaker 2>27, verse 26.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>For all who rely on works of the law are under a</v>

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<v Speaker 2>curse, for it is written, Cursed be any one who does not</v>

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<v Speaker 2>abide by all things written in the book of the law and</v>

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<v Speaker 2>do them.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>From the Septuagint, Cursed be any one who does not remain in</v>

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<v Speaker 2>all the words of this law to do them.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>From the rabbinic, cursed be anyone who does not confirm the words</v>

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<v Speaker 2>of this law by doing them.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>And so again there are similarities, of course, in many cases they</v>

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<v Speaker 2>were not so bold as to change things completely.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>But there are differences in word choice here.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>The Greek is an extremely close paraphrase.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>The rabbinic text is not the same.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>Saying confirm the words is not the same thing as saying remain</v>

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<v Speaker 2>in all the words, which is to say abide by all the</v>

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<v Speaker 2>things written in the book of the law.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>What is being taught here in the Greek, in the actual word</v>

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<v Speaker 2>of God, is a different thing from what the rabbis have put</v>

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<v Speaker 2>into their wording.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>Confirming the words of the law is not at all the same</v>

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<v Speaker 2>thing as abiding in them, obeying them.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>They have changed this because of course, confirming the words of the</v>

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<v Speaker 2>law is more consonant with their religion, which is a religion of</v>

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<v Speaker 2>essentially memorizing these things and then not doing them.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>Whereas what the actual Greek says is you have to do the</v>

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<v Speaker 2>law.</v>

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The

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<v Speaker 3>next verse is Galatians 3:13, which is quoting Deuteronomy twenty one twenty</v>

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<v Speaker 3>three Paul writes Christ redeemed us from the curse of the law</v>

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<v Speaker 3>by becoming a curse for us, because it is written cursed is</v>

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<v Speaker 3>everyone who hangs on a tree.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>Septuagin reads cursed by God is everyone who hangs on a tree.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>Whereas a rabbinic text reads, For a hanged man is God's curse.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>So the difference of everyone or the man who is hanged is</v>

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<v Speaker 3>the major difference here in substance, as well as the overall quote</v>

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<v Speaker 3>being totally different.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>You'll also notice that the rabbis deleted the word from part of</v>

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<v Speaker 2>that verse.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>And just as sort of an aside, little reminder of I guess</v>

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<v Speaker 2>high school biology class for some of you, the word underlying there</v>

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<v Speaker 2>in the Greek for tree is zoolon, which is where we get</v>

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<v Speaker 2>xylem from, one of the parts of the flesh of a tree.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>Just a fun little tidbit.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>The next example Ephesians four twenty six citing to Psalm four four</v>

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<v Speaker 2>Be angry and do not sin, do not let the sun go</v>

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<v Speaker 2>down on your anger.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>Then from the Septuagint, be angry and do not sin.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>In this case I am going to read for the Rabbinic text,</v>

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<v Speaker 2>the Jewish translation again, the JPS eighty five.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>There are two versions of that essentially.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>There's the 1917 and the 1985, and so basically it's the difference</v>

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<v Speaker 2>between say the KJV and the ESV.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>So tremble and sin no more.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>This is not the same.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>In some cases, in your Old Testament, they will have translated it</v>

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<v Speaker 2>identically, and so if you look at your Old Testament, supposedly based</v>

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<v Speaker 2>on the Masoretic text, it will say, Be angry, and do not</v>

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<v Speaker 2>sin. But then, if you happen to be in a software version</v>

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<v Speaker 2>where you can do so, you can look at the underlying word</v>

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<v Speaker 2>and go and look that up in the dictionary, and it will</v>

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<v Speaker 2>say, Be agitated, quiver, quake with fear, be excited, or perturbed.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>You'll note what isn't there.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>Be angry isn't there.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>And so the ESV very clearly this is what I'm reading when</v>

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<v Speaker 2>I say be angry and do not sin, where it matches.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>The ESV clearly followed the Septuagint, but did not footnote it merely</v>

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<v Speaker 2>gives the alternative reading in a footnote of it might mean be</v>

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<v Speaker 2>agitated, which is actually what the Hebrew is saying there.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>And so it's another instance where the translators have played games with</v>

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<v Speaker 2>God's Word.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>They have discovered to follow the Septuagint, which is right, but they</v>

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<v Speaker 2>have not footnoted it correctly, and they didn't do what they should</v>

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<v Speaker 2>have done all along, and simply gone with the Septuagint entirely.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>Instead of doing this sort of hodgepodge, where they're trying to fill</v>

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<v Speaker 2>in holes or gaps or things that aren't consonant in the Hebrew.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>Our next example is Ephesians five thirty one, which is quoting Genesis</v>

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<v Speaker 3>two twenty four.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>Paul writes For this reason a man will leave his father and</v>

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<v Speaker 3>mother and be joined to his wife, and the two will become</v>

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<v Speaker 3>one flesh.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>And the Septuagint repeats the two shall become one flesh.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>Whereas the rabbinic says they shall become one flesh.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>So the difference there is between the two and they.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>So same meaning in this case, but the wording is exclusive.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>The quotation in Ephesians can only possibly be from the Greek.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>This is an example that we used in the previous episode, but</v>

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<v Speaker 2>it's worth noting again because In the previous episode, it was Christ</v>

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<v Speaker 2>citing the Septuagint, and now it is Paul doing the same.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>So we have two different New Testament authors, one recording the words</v>

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<v Speaker 2>of Christ citing the Septuagint, and now we have Paul citing the</v>

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<v Speaker 2>Septuagint in the same way.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>The next example, Philippians 1 nineteen, citing to Job thirteen sixteen.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>Job is one of those books where, as Woe said, you may</v>

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<v Speaker 2>have to do a little bit of hunting if you're trying to</v>

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<v Speaker 2>find the exact verse because there are some differences, some pervasive differences</v>

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<v Speaker 2>in the book of Job.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, and I will rejoice, for I know that through your prayers</v>

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<v Speaker 2>in the help of the Spirit of Jesus Christ this will turn</v>

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<v Speaker 2>out for my deliverance.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>From the Septuagint, and this shall turn out to my salvation.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>From the Masoretic this will be my salvation.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>Deliverance and salvation here are actually the same word.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>This is another case where they have decided to translate it differently</v>

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<v Speaker 2>despite being the same underlying Greek term.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>This is the one that's used throughout scripture for salvation.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>And of course, salvation and deliverance are very similar concepts.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>There's some nuance there in English, but again, same Greek word.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>Turn out is also the same verb.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>Very clear, the New Testament author is citing to the Old Testament</v>

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<v Speaker 2>in the Greek, in this case the book of Job.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>The next example is from Philippians again, chapter two, verses ten and</v>

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<v Speaker 3>eleven, which is quoting Isaiah forty five twenty-three, which you previously discussed,</v>

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<v Speaker 3>every knee shall bow and every tongue shall confess.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>I'm very glad that when I made that graphic a couple of</v>

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<v Speaker 3>years ago with the Jesus returning and destroying the pagans, the vaporwave</v>

00:41:14.560 --> 00:41:16.560
<v Speaker 3>edit the quarry posts every week.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>I didn't even know at the time, but I was quoting the</v>

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<v Speaker 3>Septuagint. If I had been quoting the rabbinic, I might not have</v>

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<v Speaker 3>liked as much, might not have made</v>

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it.

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The

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<v Speaker 2>next example is from the book of Second Thessalonians, chapter one, verse</v>

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<v Speaker 2>nine, citing to Isaiah two, verses ten, nineteen, and twenty-one.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>They will suffer the punishment of eternal destruction, away from the presence</v>

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<v Speaker 2>of the Lord, and from the glory of his might, from the</v>

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<v Speaker 2>Septuagint, from the glory of his might.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>Same thing.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>From the rabbinic, from the From the splendour of his majesty.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>The word there for majesty, the lexical scope of that word, is</v>

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<v Speaker 2>height, eminence, pride, presumption.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>So again, they've played some games here in order to translate this</v>

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<v Speaker 2>to try and make it match what is said to some degree</v>

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<v Speaker 2>in the New Testament.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>The Greek word is just the same word, the Greek word for</v>

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<v Speaker 2>glory, doxa, which is where of course we get doxology.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>The next example we're moving on to yet another new book.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>This is second Timothy chapter two, verse 19, which is quoting at</v>

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<v Speaker 3>Numbers 16, 5.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>Paul writes, quoting, The Lord knows those who are his, which is</v>

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<v Speaker 3>pretty much a straight quote from the Septuagint God knows those who</v>

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<v Speaker 3>are his.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>Whereas the rabbinic reads, The Lord will make known who are his.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>So this shifts into the future in terms of when the knowing</v>

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<v Speaker 3>takes place.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>Again, it's a small change.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>This one doesn't really affect theology either way.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>Suppose you might make an argument down the road that it does.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>But functionally, there's no possible quotation because Greek has much more sophisticated</v>

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<v Speaker 3>structure around conveying things like the future tense.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>The fact that it would actually be preserved in the rabbinic means</v>

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<v Speaker 3>it can't possibly be the same.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>This couldn't be a translation error.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>There's a particularly famous historical quote that, as it seems, is citing</v>

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<v Speaker 2>to the Septuagint, but of course in Latin.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>The next example, Hebrews 1, verse 6, citing to Deuteronomy 32, 43,</v>

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<v Speaker 2>and again when he brings the firstborn into the world he says,</v>

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<v Speaker 2>Let all God's angels worship him.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>The Septuagint says, and worship him, you sons of God.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>I would give you the rabbinic, but it is absent.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>This is a line that exists in the Septuagint, cited to very</v>

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<v Speaker 2>clearly here by the author of Hebrews.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>Not present in what the rabbis have.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>Incidentally, there's something something worth noting here that I noticed while I</v>

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<v Speaker 2>was making my notes for this episode.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>This one verse in the ESV has six footnotes because of how</v>

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<v Speaker 2>much of a mess the Hebrew is.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>If we would just use the Greek, we wouldn't be having to</v>

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<v Speaker 2>pepper God's word with footnotes to try to point out where we've</v>

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<v Speaker 2>attempted to fix the deficiencies, the missing bits, the other problems with</v>

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<v Speaker 2>and in the Hebrew.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>We should just be using the Septuagint.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>It's what the author of Hebrews very clearly did here</v>

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And

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<v Speaker 3>it's notable that we are now in a new book.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>We're not gonna pick the fight over who the author of Hebrews</v>

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<v Speaker 3>is. If it wasn't Matthew, Mark, Luke, John, Jesus, Paul, Peter, or</v>

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<v Speaker 3>James, then we have yet another author being represented in this list</v>

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<v Speaker 3>of New Testament quotations of the Septuagint.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>So for the sake of the argument we're making here, I kinda</v>

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<v Speaker 3>hope it's none of those other guys.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>But either way, this is obviously the Holy Spirit speaking, which is</v>

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<v Speaker 3>why we didn't make a big deal out of oh well Jesus</v>

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<v Speaker 3>says this or it is written like it's notable, but that's not</v>

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<v Speaker 3>the reason that this matters.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>It matters because it's in the New Testament.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>That's the soul opportunity.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>It's emphasized when Jesus said it.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>It's emphasized when it says it is written, but it is all</v>

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<v Speaker 3>written. So there's no ambiguity.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>The second example we have from Hebrews is again in chapter one,</v>

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<v Speaker 3>verses ten through twelve twelve, which is quoting Psalm one hundred two</v>

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<v Speaker 3>verse twenty five through twenty seven, or in the Septuagint one hundred</v>

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<v Speaker 3>one twenty six through twenty eight.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>Hebrews reads They will perish but you continue, and they will all</v>

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<v Speaker 3>grow old like a garment, and like a robe you will fold</v>

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<v Speaker 3>them up, and like a garment they will be changed, but you</v>

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<v Speaker 3>are the same and your years will never run out.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>And the Septuagint reads basically the same, like a cloak, you will</v>

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<v Speaker 3>roll them up.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>Whereas the rabbinic reads, like clothing, you will change them.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>So the difference there is between change versus roll up.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>Not a big deal, but the distinctive word that is used, roll</v>

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<v Speaker 3>them up is not present in the rabbinic text so therefore this</v>

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<v Speaker 3>is definitely a quotation.</v>

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As

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<v Speaker 2>an aside I just happened to think while going over this particular</v>

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<v Speaker 2>example while we were preparing for this episode.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>In the beginning, there is of course identical to what we find</v>

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<v Speaker 2>both in the book of John, John 1-1, and Genesis 1-1.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>Happen notice that because I was going over some notes for Genesis</v>

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<v Speaker 2>earlier. Exact same wording there, anarch say.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>The next example is Hebrews three verses seven through eleven citing to</v>

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<v Speaker 2>Psalm ninety five also seven through eleven, or in the numbering of</v>

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<v Speaker 2>the Septuagint, Psalm ninety four, same verses</v>

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<v Speaker 2>Therefore as the Holy Spirit says, Today if you hear his voice,</v>

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<v Speaker 2>do not harden your hearts as in the rebellion, on the day</v>

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<v Speaker 2>of testing in the wilderness, where your fathers put me to the</v>

00:47:06.720 --> 00:47:09.520
<v Speaker 2>test, and saw my works for forty years.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>Therefore I was provoked with that generation and said, They always go</v>

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<v Speaker 2>astray in their heart, they have not known my ways, as I</v>

00:47:17.280 --> 00:47:21.280
<v Speaker 2>swore in my wrath, they shall not enter my rest.</v>

00:47:21.280 --> 00:47:25.600
<v Speaker 2>And then from the Septuagint, do not harden your hearts as in</v>

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<v Speaker 2>the rebellion, same thing as we see in the New Testament, according</v>

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<v Speaker 2>to the day of testing in the desert, same thing we see</v>

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<v Speaker 2>in the New Testament, desert wilderness, same thing.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>Then from the Rabbinic, do not harden your hearts as at Meribah,</v>

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<v Speaker 2>as on the day at Massa in the wilderness.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>Now the things that are being referenced here</v>

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<v Speaker 2>in the Rabbinic text are the things that are being referenced in</v>

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<v Speaker 2>the Septuagint and in the New Testament.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>We know that because we're familiar with the Old Testament, we're familiar</v>

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<v Speaker 2>with the wandering in the desert, the rebellion, all of these things.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>But the words that are actually used in the New Testament are</v>

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<v Speaker 2>the words that are present in the Septuagint version.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>The rabbinic version uses different words.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>It doesn't matter, it does for accuracy's sake perhaps, but it doesn't</v>

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<v Speaker 2>matter that they are referencing the same event, when you look at</v>

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<v Speaker 2>what is being quoted, the quotation is pulling the words that are</v>

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<v Speaker 2>present in the Greek, not the words that are present in the</v>

00:48:29.440 --> 00:48:33.040
<v Speaker 2>rabbinic text.</v>

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The

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<v Speaker 3>next example is Hebrews 8, 8 through 12, which is quoting Jeremiah</v>

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<v Speaker 3>31, verses 31 through 34, or in the Septuagint, note the change</v>

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<v Speaker 3>here, chapter 38, 31 through thirty four.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>So I mentioned the last episode, the rabbis just chopped up Jeremiah</v>

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<v Speaker 3>entirely and rearranged it to tell a different story.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>So we go from chapter thirty one to thirty eight for the</v>

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<v Speaker 3>same passage.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>That's how much they changed it.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>I think they added some things too, but you're looking at some</v>

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<v Speaker 3>fundamentally different ways of things being told, even when they don't mess</v>

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<v Speaker 3>with the text itself.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>They treat it like a ransom note.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>Hebrews reads, It will not be like the covenant that I made</v>

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<v Speaker 3>with their fathers on the day when I took them by the</v>

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<v Speaker 3>hand to lead them out of Egypt, because they did not continue</v>

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<v Speaker 3>in my covenant, and I had no regard for them, says the</v>

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<v Speaker 3>Lord. The clause in Hebrews eight nine, and I did not care</v>

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<v Speaker 3>for them, says the Lord, or did not have regard for them</v>

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<v Speaker 3>is very similar.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>It's the same underlying in the Septuagint, for they did not remain</v>

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<v Speaker 3>in my covenant and I neglected them.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>The difference in the rabbinic text is that it says, when I</v>

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<v Speaker 3>took them by the hand to bring them out of the land</v>

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<v Speaker 3>of Egypt, my covenant that they broke, though I was their husband,</v>

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<v Speaker 3>declares the Lord.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>So difference is though I was their husband and not I disregarded</v>

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<v Speaker 3>them, which is just a fundamentally different formulation.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>It's very clearly not a translation issue.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>It's not remotely the same text that's being used here.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>This next one is an example that I suspect everyone knows by</v>

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<v Speaker 2>now, from previous episodes and from other discussions, Hebrews ten, verses five</v>

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<v Speaker 2>through seven, citing to Psalm forty, verses six through eight, or the</v>

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<v Speaker 2>numbering of the Septuagint, Psalm thirty-nine, verses seven through nine.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>Consequently, when Christ came into the world he said, Sacrifices and offerings</v>

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<v Speaker 2>you have not desired, but a body have you prepared for me,</v>

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<v Speaker 2>in burnt offerings and sin offerings you have taken no pleasure.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>Then I said, Behold, I have come to do your will, O</v>

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<v Speaker 2>God, as it is written of me, in the book of the</v>

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<v Speaker 2>scroll. The relevant part there from the Septuagint, but you prepared a</v>

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<v Speaker 2>body for me.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>The same thing that we have here in the New Testament.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>This is a case where</v>

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<v Speaker 2>the Hebrew just doesn't make any sense.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>We try to make sense of it, we try to pretend that</v>

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<v Speaker 2>it's some sort of weird shemitic idiom, but it says, ears you</v>

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<v Speaker 2>have dug for me.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>And so exegetes will try to explain it away by saying, well,</v>

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<v Speaker 2>it's he's saying God listens to him or whatever they try to</v>

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<v Speaker 2>say, but it's not.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>It's Hebrew gibberish.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>We don't know what this means because it's not scripture.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>Scripture is, but you prepared a body for me.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>Incidentally, it is the same Greek verb for prepared, and it is</v>

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<v Speaker 2>the same Greek noun for body soma.</v>

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The

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<v Speaker 3>next example is Hebrews ten thirty seven through thirty eight, which is</v>

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<v Speaker 3>quoting Habakkuk two verses three through four.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>Hebrews reads For yet a very little while the coming one will</v>

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<v Speaker 3>come and will not delay.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>And the Septuagint reads If he is late, wait for him because</v>

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<v Speaker 3>the one coming will be present, and he will not tarry.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>So there's a personification of the presence there, of a coming one.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>The rabbinic uses a neuter, says it will surely come, it will</v>

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<v Speaker 3>not delay And then the second portion of this quote is as</v>

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<v Speaker 3>a composite quote here, Hebrews 30, 10 38, but my righteous one</v>

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<v Speaker 3>shall live by faith, and if he shrinks back, my soul has</v>

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<v Speaker 3>no pleasure in him, which is a quotation from Habakkuk two four,</v>

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<v Speaker 3>which contains If he shrinks back, my soul is not pleased, whereas</v>

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<v Speaker 3>Rabbinic lacks shrinking back entirely, and says, instead, Behold, his soul is</v>

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<v Speaker 3>puffed up.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>So we're losing the personification of the coming one for a neuter</v>

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<v Speaker 3>and the shrinks back because behold his soul is puffed up.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>So again, it's not remotely the same quotation, and Hebrews is very</v>

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<v Speaker 3>explicitly quoting the Greek scripture.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>The nine Greek words that comprise the core of that quotation are</v>

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<v Speaker 2>identical between the New Testament and the Old Testament.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>The next example is Hebrews 11, verse 21, citing to Genesis 47,</v>

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<v Speaker 2>31. By faith Jacob, when dying blessed each of the sons of</v>

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<v Speaker 2>Joseph, bowing in worship upon the head of his staff, and then</v>

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<v Speaker 2>from the Septuagint, and Israel bowed in worship upon the head of</v>

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<v Speaker 2>his staff.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>The The rabbinic text has instead Israel bowed himself upon the head</v>

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<v Speaker 2>of his bed.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>Now of course, perhaps the most obvious change there is first that</v>

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<v Speaker 2>they change staff to bed, but they also removed in worship.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>They changed the nature of this act.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>They changed what is happening here with Israel.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>Israel bowed in worship upon the head of his staff, not just</v>

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<v Speaker 2>bowed himself upon the head of his bed.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>They changed the theology of this verse.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>They removed, similar to how they have removed the word God in</v>

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<v Speaker 2>other places, they removed in worship here.</v>

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And

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<v Speaker 3>this is one of numerous cases where the difference in Hebrew between</v>

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<v Speaker 3>bed and staff is entirely in the vowels.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>So until the Masoretes finally decided the lie that they were going</v>

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<v Speaker 3>to pass on to the Christian church a thousand years ago, you</v>

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<v Speaker 3>could say was ambiguous because it was entirely oral tradition.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>Thankfully, God preserved the Greek scripture for us in the New Testament,</v>

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<v Speaker 3>as well as in the Septuagint itself.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>Our next example is from Hebrews 12:5 through 6, which is quoting</v>

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<v Speaker 3>Proverbs 3:11 through 12.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>This is the last quotation from Hebrews.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>And have you forgotten the exhortation addressed to you as sons?</v>

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<v Speaker 3>My son, do not scorn the Lord's discipline or give him or</v>

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<v Speaker 3>give up when he corrects you, for the Lord scourges the one</v>

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<v Speaker 3>he loves and chastises every son he accepts.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>And the word here for chastises it means disciplines the weak.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>Technically the word is flogging.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>So this is not gentle chastisement.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>This is not gentle discipline.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>The Lord's discipline is flogging.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>Septuagent Proverbs three twelve reads for whom the Lord loves he rebukes</v>

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<v Speaker 3>and scourges every son whom he receives.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>Whereas a rabbinic reads, for the Lord reproves him whom he loves,</v>

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<v Speaker 3>as a father the Son in whom he delights.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>So here we have scourges every son entirely removed.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>God says if you love your son, you'll flog him.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>That's what God does to us.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>When we're chastised, it's not some airy metaphor.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>The flogging that we receive in this life for our sins is</v>

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<v Speaker 3>sometimes very overt, sometimes it's not obvious, and sometimes it doesn't seem</v>

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<v Speaker 3>like you get it.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>But the fact that it does sometimes happen is a very strong</v>

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<v Speaker 3>theological point and one that the rabbis deleted entirely.</v>

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The

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<v Speaker 2>next example is James four verse six, citing to Proverbs three, verse</v>

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<v Speaker 2>thirty four</v>

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<v Speaker 2>But he gives more grace, therefore it says God opposes the arrogant,</v>

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<v Speaker 2>but gives grace to the humble From the Septuagint The Lord opposes</v>

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<v Speaker 2>the arrogant, but gives grace to the humble.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>Then from the rabbinic, toward the scorners he is scornful, but to</v>

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<v Speaker 2>the humble he gives favour.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>And so the second part of that is perhaps the same sort</v>

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<v Speaker 2>of sentiment.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>The first is less so, but again you'll note they removed the</v>

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<v Speaker 2>word God or the word Lord, depending on which one, obviously meaning</v>

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<v Speaker 2>the same thing here</v>

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<v Speaker 2>If you account for the difference between God and Lord, Kurios versus</v>

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<v Speaker 2>Theos, the underlying Greek is otherwise identical.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>The only thing that has changed here is that the New Testament</v>

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<v Speaker 2>author has decided to say God opposes instead of the Lord opposes.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>The rabbis simply have something else in their text.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>Although that is the only example from James, it is notable, we're</v>

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<v Speaker 3>talking about the first bishop of Jerusalem and the half-brother of Jesus.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>So the fact that James is also quoting the Greek as scripture,</v>

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<v Speaker 3>again, we're just we're beating this point to death because once you</v>

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<v Speaker 3>look at the New Testament, nothing else is necessary.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>We move on then to 1 Peter 2.6, which is again quoting</v>

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<v Speaker 3>Isaiah 28, 16.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>We We've previously discussed that verse, but this is a case where</v>

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<v Speaker 3>Peter and Paul are both quoting the Septuagint.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>Again, look at the guys we're talking about: James, Peter, Paul, Jesus,</v>

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<v Speaker 3>Matthew. Like these are not the guys that we are told would</v>

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<v Speaker 3>be speaking and quoting Greek and using Greek for theology.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>And yet New Testament is replete with these examples.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>The next example, still in the book of first Peter, two, verse</v>

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<v Speaker 2>nine, citing to Exodus nineteen, verse six.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>But you were a chosen race, a royal priesthood, a holy nation,</v>

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<v Speaker 2>a people for his own possession, that you may proclaim the excellencies</v>

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<v Speaker 2>of him who called you out of darkness, into his marvellous light.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>Then the Septuagint, and you shall be for me a royal priesthood</v>

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<v Speaker 2>and a holy nation.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>Same two things there, royal priesthood, holy nation.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>The rabbinic text has instead, You shall be to me a kingdom</v>

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<v Speaker 2>of priests.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>Incidentally they did keep the and a holy nation.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>But those are different words.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>These are different terms, and again they are trying to make this</v>

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<v Speaker 2>into a statement that they are going to have this sort of</v>

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<v Speaker 2>kingdom on earth because that's what they want, that's their entire theology.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>Is that the Jews are special, they're going to rule everyone else</v>

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<v Speaker 2>and destroy everyone else.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>That's ultimately their theology.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>They've changed the text here to align with what they want it</v>

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<v Speaker 2>to say, as if that's going to convince God that he should</v>

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<v Speaker 2>change his plan.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>But the salient point, of course, is that you have the identical</v>

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<v Speaker 2>statement here, in the Greek, in the Septuagint, being used by the</v>

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<v Speaker 2>New Testament author, being used by Peter in his epistle.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>Our next example is from first Peter two twenty two, quoting Isaiah</v>

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<v Speaker 3>fifty-three nine.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>Peter says, quoting, He committed no sin, neither was deceit found in</v>

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<v Speaker 3>his mouth.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>Septuag says, Because he did no lawlessness or sin, nor was deceit</v>

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<v Speaker 3>found in his mouth.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>There's the case where the ancient textual witnesses differ on whether it</v>

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<v Speaker 3>says lawlessness or sin, but obviously those are essentially synonyms.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>The rabbinic text says on the other hand, he had done no</v>

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<v Speaker 3>violence and there was no deceit in his mouth.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>So the difference between violence and sin there is the substantive non</v>

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<v Speaker 3>translation dichotomy.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>It's not a case where you could possibly get from one place</v>

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<v Speaker 3>to the other.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>And it's frequently the case where we find violence used in place</v>

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<v Speaker 3>of sin by the rabbis.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>In this case that is not scriptural.</v>

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The

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<v Speaker 2>next example still in the book of first Peter is chapter four</v>

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<v Speaker 2>verse eighteen citing to Proverbs eleven thirty one</v>

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<v Speaker 2>And if the righteous is scarcely saved, what will become of the</v>

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<v Speaker 2>ungodly in the sinner?</v>

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<v Speaker 2>And then the Septuagint If indeed the righteous is scarcely saved, what</v>

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<v Speaker 2>will become of the ungodly and the sinner?</v>

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<v Speaker 2>Other than that one word, identical, from the Rabbinic, if the righteous</v>

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<v Speaker 2>is repaid on earth, how much more the wicked and the sinner?</v>

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<v Speaker 2>There's a one-word difference between the Greek and the Greek of the</v>

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<v Speaker 2>New Testament, because the author decided to drop the word indeed, dropped</v>

01:00:52.560 --> 01:00:55.120
<v Speaker 2>what is a particle there in the Greek.</v>

01:00:55.120 --> 01:01:00.720
<v Speaker 2>The rabbinic has a completely a radically different statement.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>The New Testament statement citing to the same Old Testament statement is</v>

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<v Speaker 2>a theological statement of the impossibility of being saved, absent God's miraculous</v>

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<v Speaker 2>intervention, whereas the rabbis have changed it to if the righteous is</v>

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<v Speaker 2>repaid on earth, okay perhaps, how much more the wicked and the</v>

01:01:22.640 --> 01:01:26.320
<v Speaker 2>sinner? This is a different religion.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>It's a different theology.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>This is one of those times where you can try to baptize</v>

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<v Speaker 2>it as a Christian and make it into something that is consonant</v>

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<v Speaker 2>with the rest of Scripture and what we actually actually believe what</v>

01:01:35.040 --> 01:01:37.200
<v Speaker 2>we know is right.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>But that's not something that we should be doing, because it's not</v>

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<v Speaker 2>what the Old Testament says.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>What the Old Testament says is the same thing the New Testament</v>

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<v Speaker 2>says, which is why Peter cited</v>

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it

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<v Speaker 3>Our next example is from first Peter five five, and this is</v>

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<v Speaker 3>also actually repeated in James 4:6, quoting Proverbs again three thirty four.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>Peter and James both quote God opposes the proud but gives grace</v>

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<v Speaker 3>to the humble.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>The Septuagint reads, The Lord resists the proud but gives grace to</v>

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<v Speaker 3>the humble.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>Whereas the Rabbinic says surely he scorns the scorners, but to the</v>

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<v Speaker 3>humble he gives favor.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>So again it's just a radically different way of phrasing it versus</v>

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<v Speaker 3>identical quote.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>Then our final example is appropriately from the book of Revelation</v>

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<v Speaker 2>Revelation two twenty seven twelve five and nineteen fifteen citing to Psalm</v>

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<v Speaker 2>two hundred nine</v>

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<v Speaker 2>and he will rule them with a rod of iron, as when</v>

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<v Speaker 2>earthen pots are broken in pieces, even as I myself have received</v>

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<v Speaker 2>authority from my father</v>

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<v Speaker 2>then from the Septuagint th.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>shall shepherd them with an iron rod, and like a potter's vessel</v>

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<v Speaker 2>you will shatter them.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>Then we will read from the rabbinic text, which is a little</v>

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<v Speaker 2>different. You shall break them with a rod of iron, and dash</v>

01:03:07.360 --> 01:03:10.480
<v Speaker 2>them in pieces, like a potter's vessel.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, so the second part of that verse is quite similar.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>But you shall break them with an iron rod is a fundamentally</v>

01:03:20.400 --> 01:03:24.880
<v Speaker 2>different thing from saying you shall shepherd them with an iron rod.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>This is again one of those cases where part of it is</v>

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<v Speaker 2>a so-called revocalization, which is to say playing games with the diacritics,</v>

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<v Speaker 2>because you can change, again, as you all know by now, you</v>

01:03:37.840 --> 01:03:40.800
<v Speaker 2>can change the vowels in a Hebrew word, simply by changing the</v>

01:03:40.800 --> 01:03:43.360
<v Speaker 2>little bits that you've marked along it.</v>

01:03:43.360 --> 01:03:46.400
<v Speaker 2>And so it could be you shall rule them with a rod</v>

01:03:46.400 --> 01:03:50.560
<v Speaker 2>of iron, but that's still different from saying you shall shepherd them</v>

01:03:50.560 --> 01:03:51.520
<v Speaker 2>with a rod of iron.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>It's a fundamentally different formulation of God's</v>

01:03:55.280 --> 01:03:58.880
<v Speaker 2>relationship with his children, with his church.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>And the rabbis have handed us something that is simply not what</v>

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<v Speaker 2>is cited in the New Testament.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>And the reason again, as we have pointed out so many times</v>

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<v Speaker 2>that the New Testament author is citing the Greek is because the</v>

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<v Speaker 2>Greek is God's word.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>The Greek is also incidentally the thing to which he had access,</v>

01:04:17.440 --> 01:04:19.360
<v Speaker 2>but it is the Greek that is God's word.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>It is the Greek that is being cited here, and the rabbis</v>

01:04:22.480 --> 01:04:27.280
<v Speaker 2>have changed it and made some other text and tried to pass</v>

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<v Speaker 2>it off as God's word.</v>

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I

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<v Speaker 3>think it's fitting that we end with the gospel writer John in</v>

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<v Speaker 3>Revelation quoting three separate times one of the Psalms.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>I think that brief encapsulation really just hammers home the point how</v>

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<v Speaker 3>fundamental the connection between the New Testament and the Septuagint is.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>It's one and the same thing.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>Calling it the Old Testament and the New Testament.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>To us today, it almost makes sense because we think of the</v>

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<v Speaker 3>Old Testament being Hebrew and the New Testament being Greek.</v>

01:05:00.480 --> 01:05:02.160
<v Speaker 3>Scripture is Greek.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>The word of God is breathed out in Greek.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>So we have now closed our case here.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>We rest.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>This is the prosecution, making its case for the Septuagint and against</v>

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<v Speaker 3>the rabbinic text.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>We have no new evidence to enter into the record.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>So now Cory and I are each going to essentially give our</v>

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<v Speaker 3>closing arguments for arguments for the Septuagint based on everything that we</v>

01:05:28.240 --> 01:05:30.640
<v Speaker 3>presented over these past seven episodes.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>As I mentioned previously, the next episode next week will be the</v>

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<v Speaker 3>bonus episode talking about future work in the church.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>It's not related to the case for the Septuagint.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>It's basically, okay, I believe the Septuagint is scripture now.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>What? Which is why we're considering that to be outside of the</v>

01:05:46.880 --> 01:05:50.800
<v Speaker 3>Septuagint series that we're presenting here, because everything we've talked about for</v>

01:05:50.800 --> 01:05:53.440
<v Speaker 3>these seven episodes is factual.</v>

01:05:53.440 --> 01:05:57.280
<v Speaker 3>We've obviously given our own framing along the way and made our</v>

01:05:57.280 --> 01:06:01.680
<v Speaker 3>arguments as we went, but the facts are not disputed.</v>

01:06:01.680 --> 01:06:03.200
<v Speaker 3>You don't get to have your own facts.</v>

01:06:03.200 --> 01:06:05.520
<v Speaker 3>You can reach your own conclusions and either be right or wrong</v>

01:06:05.520 --> 01:06:06.720
<v Speaker 3>in those conclusions.</v>

01:06:06.720 --> 01:06:09.760
<v Speaker 3>But the facts we believe speak for themselves.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>So I'm going to simply rehash what we've covered in these seven</v>

01:06:13.200 --> 01:06:17.600
<v Speaker 3>episodes to refresh your memory, and then we're gonna rest.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>We are done with what we have to say about the Septuagint.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>The Greek Old Testament is the Bible of Jesus and the Apostles</v>

01:06:25.600 --> 01:06:26.800
<v Speaker 3>in the early church.</v>

01:06:26.800 --> 01:06:30.640
<v Speaker 3>We have proved that beyond any shadow of a doubt We went</v>

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<v Speaker 3>through six dozen verses in the New Testament that can only possibly</v>

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<v Speaker 3>be from the Old Testament.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>We looked at the history of how the church viewed the Septuagint</v>

01:06:41.680 --> 01:06:44.880
<v Speaker 3>and then when it lost the view of the Septuagint.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>And what we made clear early on was that although the Greek</v>

01:06:48.160 --> 01:06:50.640
<v Speaker 3>Old Testament was the Bible of Jesus and the Apostles in the</v>

01:06:50.640 --> 01:06:55.440
<v Speaker 3>early church, when the early church became the medieval church and the</v>

01:06:55.440 --> 01:07:00.240
<v Speaker 3>Septuagint ceased to be its Bible, there was no great council, there</v>

01:07:00.240 --> 01:07:04.720
<v Speaker 3>was no great vote, there was no fight, there was no discussion.</v>

01:07:04.720 --> 01:07:10.000
<v Speaker 3>It just happened, and it happened due to the evolution of language.</v>

01:07:10.320 --> 01:07:14.480
<v Speaker 3>When you look at the Old Testament, what you find is that</v>

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<v Speaker 3>when the Israelites, when the Hebrews come up, they're almost always being</v>

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<v Speaker 3>wicked and idolatrous.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>Almost always.</v>

01:07:21.760 --> 01:07:25.280
<v Speaker 3>You can turn to almost any page, at least ninety percent of</v>

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<v Speaker 3>the time in the Old Testament, when it's talking about the Israelites,</v>

01:07:29.280 --> 01:07:33.840
<v Speaker 3>they're doing something evil and wicked, and God is lamenting it and</v>

01:07:33.840 --> 01:07:35.280
<v Speaker 3>he's punishing them.</v>

01:07:35.280 --> 01:07:40.160
<v Speaker 3>And so language is important because the Hebrew language was killed by</v>

01:07:40.160 --> 01:07:44.960
<v Speaker 3>God. When God shattered the northern kingdom and then he shattered the</v>

01:07:44.960 --> 01:07:51.440
<v Speaker 3>southern kingdom, they were given over into rule by foreign conquerors, one</v>

01:07:51.440 --> 01:07:56.480
<v Speaker 3>after another, and they lost Hebrew, and it was replaced with Aramaic,</v>

01:07:56.480 --> 01:07:59.920
<v Speaker 3>which was the lingua franca of the conquering armies.</v>

01:07:59.920 --> 01:08:03.840
<v Speaker 3>And then they lost Aramaic, and they began speaking Greek, which was</v>

01:08:03.840 --> 01:08:06.720
<v Speaker 3>the lingua franca of their next conquerors.</v>

01:08:06.720 --> 01:08:09.600
<v Speaker 3>And then after the end of what is recorded in the New</v>

01:08:09.760 --> 01:08:11.760
<v Speaker 3>Testament, they lost Greek.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>And this now we're talking about the early church, lost Greek, and</v>

01:08:15.760 --> 01:08:19.680
<v Speaker 3>switched to Latin, which incidentally, if you look at the old Greek</v>

01:08:19.680 --> 01:08:25.520
<v Speaker 3>Daniel, is prophesied more clearly than is found in the Theodosian's Daniel</v>

01:08:25.600 --> 01:08:30.080
<v Speaker 3>that used both in the Septuagint and in the rabbinic text.</v>

01:08:30.080 --> 01:08:32.000
<v Speaker 3>As we said at the beginning, we're not going to pick the</v>

01:08:32.000 --> 01:08:33.920
<v Speaker 3>fight over some of those variations.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>It's just notable that this linguistic evolution where one language is destroyed</v>

01:08:39.840 --> 01:08:43.680
<v Speaker 3>and replaced by another is part of God's wrath.</v>

01:08:43.680 --> 01:08:45.600
<v Speaker 3>It's part of God's plan.</v>

01:08:45.600 --> 01:08:48.640
<v Speaker 3>And when we look at what was done to the Hebrews, it</v>

01:08:48.640 --> 01:08:52.000
<v Speaker 3>was done as punishment from God.</v>

01:08:52.000 --> 01:08:55.040
<v Speaker 3>Not only did he take their land, not only did he take</v>

01:08:55.040 --> 01:08:58.960
<v Speaker 3>their language, emiscedenated the northern kingdom out of existence.</v>

01:08:58.960 --> 01:09:00.880
<v Speaker 3>That's where the Samaritans came from.</v>

01:09:00.880 --> 01:09:04.240
<v Speaker 3>They were wiped out as a race by being mixed with foreign</v>

01:09:04.240 --> 01:09:08.960
<v Speaker 3>neighbors. This is what God does to people when he destroys them.</v>

01:09:08.960 --> 01:09:11.600
<v Speaker 3>So by the time we get to the first century and we're</v>

01:09:11.600 --> 01:09:15.040
<v Speaker 3>looking in the New Testament era of Jesus and the apostles, all</v>

01:09:15.040 --> 01:09:16.320
<v Speaker 3>they had was the Greek.</v>

01:09:16.320 --> 01:09:19.440
<v Speaker 3>There was probably some Aramaic that may have been used liturgically.</v>

01:09:19.440 --> 01:09:21.120
<v Speaker 3>In fact, we know that to be the case.</v>

01:09:21.120 --> 01:09:24.160
<v Speaker 3>There may have been some Hebrew used liturgically as well.</v>

01:09:24.160 --> 01:09:27.440
<v Speaker 3>There is a clear case to be made for certain liturgical use</v>

01:09:27.760 --> 01:09:31.040
<v Speaker 3>and repetition of Aramaic, but we know that because we know it</v>

01:09:31.360 --> 01:09:34.080
<v Speaker 3>had to be translated, because nobody could understand it.</v>

01:09:34.080 --> 01:09:37.200
<v Speaker 3>So when we talk about dead language, that's a technical term.</v>

01:09:37.200 --> 01:09:40.400
<v Speaker 3>A dead language is one that is no longer spoken, it is</v>

01:09:40.400 --> 01:09:43.200
<v Speaker 3>no longer in common use, it's no longer evolving.</v>

01:09:43.200 --> 01:09:46.480
<v Speaker 3>So not only can't people speak it, but it's not doing anything</v>

01:09:46.480 --> 01:09:49.600
<v Speaker 3>anymore. English today is not a dead language.</v>

01:09:49.600 --> 01:09:53.200
<v Speaker 3>Latin is a dead language, and it's dead for the specific reason</v>

01:09:53.200 --> 01:09:54.560
<v Speaker 3>it's no longer evolving.</v>

01:09:54.560 --> 01:09:57.280
<v Speaker 3>Now it doesn't mean it's lost entirely, it doesn't mean it's totally</v>

01:09:57.280 --> 01:10:01.120
<v Speaker 3>vanished, like we have with some ancient languages, we don't know anything</v>

01:10:01.120 --> 01:10:02.000
<v Speaker 3>about them.</v>

01:10:02.000 --> 01:10:04.720
<v Speaker 3>Hebrew was lost to the point that there was no one left</v>

01:10:04.720 --> 01:10:07.840
<v Speaker 3>who could speak it, it wasn't used conversationally.</v>

01:10:07.840 --> 01:10:10.640
<v Speaker 3>Even Aramaic was lost to the point that when you look in</v>

01:10:10.640 --> 01:10:15.360
<v Speaker 3>the New Testament, in the cases where it uses Aramaic terms, it</v>

01:10:15.360 --> 01:10:16.720
<v Speaker 3>quotes them in line.</v>

01:10:16.720 --> 01:10:23.520
<v Speaker 3>You'll frequently see things like Marinatha and Golgotha are translated in line</v>

01:10:23.680 --> 01:10:25.920
<v Speaker 3>so that you can understand what they are.</v>

01:10:25.920 --> 01:10:29.840
<v Speaker 3>Because the readers of those epistles and those gospels in that day</v>

01:10:29.840 --> 01:10:31.440
<v Speaker 3>wouldn't have known otherwise.</v>

01:10:31.440 --> 01:10:35.120
<v Speaker 3>And the readers were overwhelmingly Jews.</v>

01:10:35.120 --> 01:10:38.160
<v Speaker 3>Between the middle of the third century BC and roughly the end</v>

01:10:38.160 --> 01:10:41.920
<v Speaker 3>of the first century BC, the entirety of the Old Testament was</v>

01:10:41.920 --> 01:10:46.080
<v Speaker 3>translated into Greek, which means it was not all done at once.</v>

01:10:46.080 --> 01:10:57.520
<v Speaker 3>So when we talk about the Septuagint, we're talking about the Pentateu</v>

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<v Speaker 3>Jesus and the apostles received it as Scripture.</v>

01:11:00.400 --> 01:11:03.760
<v Speaker 3>Every time they said it is written as it is written, Thus</v>

01:11:03.760 --> 01:11:08.080
<v Speaker 3>says the Lord, they were quoting Greek scripture.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>There are no biblical languages.</v>

01:11:10.320 --> 01:11:14.160
<v Speaker 3>There is one biblical language, and that language is Greek.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>What we find in the first four centuries of the church is</v>

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<v Speaker 3>that other than Origen around 180 and his follow on Eusebius, and</v>

01:11:23.520 --> 01:11:27.840
<v Speaker 3>then Jerome later on, all of whom were scholars, no one else</v>

01:11:27.840 --> 01:11:28.480
<v Speaker 3>knew Hebrew.</v>

01:11:29.200 --> 01:11:32.720
<v Speaker 3>It was not used for debate, it was not used for theology,</v>

01:11:32.720 --> 01:11:35.440
<v Speaker 3>it was not used as a basis for scripture.</v>

01:11:35.440 --> 01:11:40.240
<v Speaker 3>And the only reason that Origen and Eusebius knew any Hebrew was</v>

01:11:40.240 --> 01:11:42.960
<v Speaker 3>specifically to deal with the fact that they had all these texts</v>

01:11:42.960 --> 01:11:43.840
<v Speaker 3>floating around.</v>

01:11:43.840 --> 01:11:48.560
<v Speaker 3>It was entirely a scholarly endeavor, which is very distinct from a</v>

01:11:48.560 --> 01:11:50.240
<v Speaker 3>theological question.</v>

01:11:50.240 --> 01:11:54.640
<v Speaker 3>There was no use of Hebrew theologically whatsoever in the early church</v>

01:11:55.200 --> 01:11:58.000
<v Speaker 3>When there were scholarly inquiries to figure out what do we do</v>

01:11:58.000 --> 01:12:01.760
<v Speaker 3>with these various texts floating around, the principal case that Origin was</v>

01:12:01.760 --> 01:12:04.640
<v Speaker 3>trying to make was that the Septuagint is what we should be</v>

01:12:04.640 --> 01:12:07.040
<v Speaker 3>using. In fact, when you look at the quotes from many of</v>

01:12:07.040 --> 01:12:10.160
<v Speaker 3>those men in that day, they were very clear, we used one</v>

01:12:10.160 --> 01:12:11.600
<v Speaker 3>last episode.</v>

01:12:11.600 --> 01:12:15.120
<v Speaker 3>They said flat out the Jews were tampering with scripture.</v>

01:12:15.120 --> 01:12:19.520
<v Speaker 3>That is not a new twenty first century conclusion from internet Nazis.</v>

01:12:19.520 --> 01:12:23.280
<v Speaker 3>The early church fathers said point blank, we know for a fact</v>

01:12:23.440 --> 01:12:25.440
<v Speaker 3>the Jews have tampered with Scripture.</v>

01:12:25.440 --> 01:12:27.840
<v Speaker 3>This is a century or more after Christ.</v>

01:12:28.080 --> 01:12:31.440
<v Speaker 3>We've laid out ad nauseum in the last few episodes.</v>

01:12:31.440 --> 01:12:34.160
<v Speaker 3>It's no surprise that the people who murdered the Word of God</v>

01:12:34.400 --> 01:12:36.720
<v Speaker 3>would also despise the Word of God.</v>

01:12:36.720 --> 01:12:41.360
<v Speaker 3>If they'll kill the man, they will certainly destroy what is written.</v>

01:12:41.360 --> 01:12:47.600
<v Speaker 3>So when Jerome translated the rabbinic text of his day into Latin</v>

01:12:47.840 --> 01:12:53.360
<v Speaker 3>unilaterally with no permission from anyone, over the direct objections of Augustine,</v>

01:12:53.360 --> 01:12:55.440
<v Speaker 3>but no one else really fought.</v>

01:12:55.440 --> 01:12:58.240
<v Speaker 3>As I said, there was no church council to ratify that or</v>

01:12:58.240 --> 01:13:01.440
<v Speaker 3>to say it was okay, but the problem that was being solved</v>

01:13:01.440 --> 01:13:04.240
<v Speaker 3>in that immediate moment was that they were losing Greek.</v>

01:13:04.240 --> 01:13:06.080
<v Speaker 3>Another language is being lost.</v>

01:13:06.080 --> 01:13:09.680
<v Speaker 3>So because the West could no longer speak or read Greek, they</v>

01:13:09.680 --> 01:13:10.720
<v Speaker 3>needed Latin.</v>

01:13:10.720 --> 01:13:11.760
<v Speaker 3>That was all they understood.</v>

01:13:11.760 --> 01:13:14.160
<v Speaker 3>That was the lingua franca of that day.</v>

01:13:14.160 --> 01:13:19.120
<v Speaker 3>So when Jerome finished his work, without permission for the textual basis,</v>

01:13:19.120 --> 01:13:21.840
<v Speaker 3>at least it was a Latin Bible, and it stuck around for</v>

01:13:21.840 --> 01:13:22.640
<v Speaker 3>a long time.</v>

01:13:22.640 --> 01:13:27.680
<v Speaker 3>It still took about four centuries before Alquin of York and Charlemagne</v>

01:13:27.760 --> 01:13:30.800
<v Speaker 3>made official that this was to be the Western Bible that everyone</v>

01:13:30.800 --> 01:13:34.240
<v Speaker 3>was to use as a basis for reproducing additional copies.</v>

01:13:34.240 --> 01:13:38.480
<v Speaker 3>And Alquin of York specifically worked on figuring out what Jerome's actual</v>

01:13:38.480 --> 01:13:39.520
<v Speaker 3>Vulgate was.</v>

01:13:39.520 --> 01:13:45.120
<v Speaker 3>Because again, there was a perpetuation, a proliferation of different versions of</v>

01:13:45.120 --> 01:13:46.640
<v Speaker 3>what was called the Vulgate.</v>

01:13:46.640 --> 01:13:48.800
<v Speaker 3>He had to figure out, you know, the same sort of textual</v>

01:13:48.800 --> 01:13:49.920
<v Speaker 3>problems that we have today.</v>

01:13:49.920 --> 01:13:54.240
<v Speaker 3>It's nothing new to have textual problems with differing manuscripts.</v>

01:13:54.240 --> 01:13:56.720
<v Speaker 3>It's always gonna happen with copying errors.</v>

01:13:56.720 --> 01:13:59.600
<v Speaker 3>In fact, Corey and I were working on the last episode.</v>

01:13:59.600 --> 01:14:02.720
<v Speaker 3>We had that very problem with the digital file that I sent</v>

01:14:02.720 --> 01:14:05.040
<v Speaker 3>him. The file I sent him was not the same as the</v>

01:14:05.040 --> 01:14:06.160
<v Speaker 3>file that he received.</v>

01:14:06.160 --> 01:14:07.280
<v Speaker 3>We tried to figure that out.</v>

01:14:07.280 --> 01:14:08.400
<v Speaker 3>It was impossible.</v>

01:14:08.400 --> 01:14:11.440
<v Speaker 3>These transmission errors are not anything new.</v>

01:14:11.440 --> 01:14:14.720
<v Speaker 3>They're not inexplicable to us.</v>

01:14:14.800 --> 01:14:20.000
<v Speaker 3>Between 400 and 600, we had Gregory the Great, the Pope, who</v>

01:14:20.320 --> 01:14:26.080
<v Speaker 3>was the first to really very strongly push for an allegorical reading</v>

01:14:26.080 --> 01:14:26.960
<v Speaker 3>of scripture.</v>

01:14:26.960 --> 01:14:28.800
<v Speaker 3>Now he didn't do it to the exclusion of other things.</v>

01:14:29.040 --> 01:14:30.640
<v Speaker 3>He didn't really do anything wrong.</v>

01:14:30.640 --> 01:14:35.440
<v Speaker 3>But he popularized it in a way that in subsequent centuries became</v>

01:14:35.440 --> 01:14:39.840
<v Speaker 3>dominant to the point when other writers were writing about scripture, they</v>

01:14:39.840 --> 01:14:46.240
<v Speaker 3>increasingly relied on allegorical readings to the exclusion of the literal word.</v>

01:14:46.240 --> 01:14:49.840
<v Speaker 3>Greek was entirely lost in the West, which meant the the schism</v>

01:14:50.400 --> 01:14:52.000
<v Speaker 3>between East and West</v>

01:14:52.960 --> 01:14:58.480
<v Speaker 3>caused a situation where there was no observation of the Septuagint text</v>

01:14:58.480 --> 01:15:00.000
<v Speaker 3>in the West whatsoever.</v>

01:15:00.160 --> 01:15:01.200
<v Speaker 3>it never came up.</v>

01:15:01.200 --> 01:15:03.200
<v Speaker 3>And they didn't debate over that either.</v>

01:15:03.200 --> 01:15:04.400
<v Speaker 3>Which is kind of fascinating.</v>

01:15:04.400 --> 01:15:06.880
<v Speaker 3>You think of all the fights that they had, the fact that</v>

01:15:06.880 --> 01:15:10.880
<v Speaker 3>the textual basis for scripture itself didn't come into play would have</v>

01:15:10.880 --> 01:15:13.040
<v Speaker 3>been more prominent.</v>

01:15:13.040 --> 01:15:16.720
<v Speaker 3>By the eleventh century, what we see is that Jews have sprung</v>

01:15:16.720 --> 01:15:22.800
<v Speaker 3>up throughout Europe, they have made their way into numerous different European</v>

01:15:22.800 --> 01:15:25.600
<v Speaker 3>nations and they've set up shop pretty much on their own.</v>

01:15:25.600 --> 01:15:29.680
<v Speaker 3>You know, there's some integration of sorts, there's commerce.</v>

01:15:29.680 --> 01:15:34.800
<v Speaker 3>What this meant was that they would begin to produce and proliferate</v>

01:15:34.800 --> 01:15:41.360
<v Speaker 3>their own rabbinic writings, their wicked blasphemous teachings, internally to their communities.</v>

01:15:41.360 --> 01:15:44.240
<v Speaker 3>They weren't selling this stuff, they weren't giving it to others.</v>

01:15:44.320 --> 01:15:48.080
<v Speaker 3>In fact, often on pain of death, those writings were to be</v>

01:15:48.560 --> 01:15:49.840
<v Speaker 3>kept secret.</v>

01:15:49.840 --> 01:15:54.080
<v Speaker 3>In the 10th, 11th, 12th century, the fact that things were in</v>

01:15:54.080 --> 01:15:58.560
<v Speaker 3>Hebrew was basically a secret code that was only known to Jews.</v>

01:15:58.560 --> 01:16:02.160
<v Speaker 3>This meant that they were able to practice their black magic and</v>

01:16:02.160 --> 01:16:04.400
<v Speaker 3>do all these wicked things that they were doing and teach the</v>

01:16:04.400 --> 01:16:07.200
<v Speaker 3>things that they were teaching and say the prayers that they were</v>

01:16:07.200 --> 01:16:10.880
<v Speaker 3>praying without any Christian princes knowing how evil they were, because they</v>

01:16:10.880 --> 01:16:12.000
<v Speaker 3>couldn't understand him.</v>

01:16:12.000 --> 01:16:14.560
<v Speaker 3>You see some guy next to you who's talking in a foreign</v>

01:16:14.560 --> 01:16:16.000
<v Speaker 3>language, you don't know what he's saying.</v>

01:16:16.000 --> 01:16:18.880
<v Speaker 3>He could be telling a joke, he could be giving instructions for</v>

01:16:18.880 --> 01:16:19.600
<v Speaker 3>your murder.</v>

01:16:19.600 --> 01:16:21.200
<v Speaker 3>It would sound the same to your ears.</v>

01:16:21.200 --> 01:16:23.600
<v Speaker 3>You can't tell the difference.</v>

01:16:23.600 --> 01:16:27.040
<v Speaker 3>And around the 1200s, we have the Augustinian scholars at the school</v>

01:16:27.040 --> 01:16:31.520
<v Speaker 3>of Saint Victor strongly advocating for the primacy of the literal historical</v>

01:16:31.520 --> 01:16:36.800
<v Speaker 3>sense. This was a marked departure from the allegorical readings that the</v>

01:16:36.800 --> 01:16:39.600
<v Speaker 3>church had seen for a number of centuries.</v>

01:16:39.600 --> 01:16:44.720
<v Speaker 3>This was important because at this time we had Rashi's commentary produced</v>

01:16:44.720 --> 01:16:48.400
<v Speaker 3>previously available in some of these communities.</v>

01:16:48.400 --> 01:16:50.240
<v Speaker 3>So when Andrew of St.</v>

01:16:50.240 --> 01:16:57.360
<v Speaker 3>Victor adopted his school's of hermeneutic of literal interpretation, word came to</v>

01:16:57.360 --> 01:17:03.440
<v Speaker 3>him that this rashi commentary, this rabbinic commentary on the Old Testament,</v>

01:17:03.440 --> 01:17:06.160
<v Speaker 3>had a lot of really literal readings.</v>

01:17:06.160 --> 01:17:10.320
<v Speaker 3>And so that then became a resource for the church.</v>

01:17:10.320 --> 01:17:13.840
<v Speaker 3>Even though they did not have a favorable view of Jews at</v>

01:17:13.840 --> 01:17:18.960
<v Speaker 3>all, they still did not distinguish between the fact that the people</v>

01:17:18.960 --> 01:17:22.400
<v Speaker 3>that they disliked who had murdered Christ should not be a source</v>

01:17:22.400 --> 01:17:23.600
<v Speaker 3>of influence.</v>

01:17:23.600 --> 01:17:27.120
<v Speaker 3>Because when they were looking at the church having produced all these</v>

01:17:27.120 --> 01:17:31.440
<v Speaker 3>allegorical readings, and then they look at their rabbis next door with</v>

01:17:31.440 --> 01:17:35.680
<v Speaker 3>Rashi's commentaries saying things are very literal and to their ears, they</v>

01:17:35.680 --> 01:17:36.960
<v Speaker 3>seem like good arguments.</v>

01:17:36.960 --> 01:17:38.800
<v Speaker 3>They seem like sound arguments.</v>

01:17:38.800 --> 01:17:41.360
<v Speaker 3>The danger was they probably were.</v>

01:17:41.360 --> 01:17:47.040
<v Speaker 3>Some of the were actually good faithful Exegetical arguments from scripture from</v>

01:17:47.040 --> 01:17:48.160
<v Speaker 3>a rabbi.</v>

01:17:48.160 --> 01:17:52.480
<v Speaker 3>That's exactly what Satan needed in that moment because it brought rabbis</v>

01:17:52.480 --> 01:17:53.440
<v Speaker 3>back to the table.</v>

01:17:53.440 --> 01:17:55.680
<v Speaker 3>When you bring rabbis back to the table, you got to bring</v>

01:17:55.680 --> 01:17:57.200
<v Speaker 3>Hebrew back to the table.</v>

01:17:57.200 --> 01:18:00.400
<v Speaker 3>And so despite the fact that in twelve forty we had the</v>

01:18:00.400 --> 01:18:04.240
<v Speaker 3>Trial the Talmud in Paris, where one of the very few Jewish</v>

01:18:04.240 --> 01:18:08.560
<v Speaker 3>converts in the entire history, after about the first or second century,</v>

01:18:08.560 --> 01:18:14.240
<v Speaker 3>Nicholas Donan exposed both Pope Gregory II and King Louis II, these</v>

01:18:14.240 --> 01:18:18.400
<v Speaker 3>blasphemous black magic practices of the Jews which had been concealed in</v>

01:18:18.400 --> 01:18:21.840
<v Speaker 3>Hebrew. This man who knew Hebrew went to them and said, Look,</v>

01:18:21.840 --> 01:18:25.040
<v Speaker 3>here's what they're doing, here's what they're writings say, here's what they're</v>

01:18:25.040 --> 01:18:26.800
<v Speaker 3>praying among you.</v>

01:18:26.800 --> 01:18:31.360
<v Speaker 3>And the Christian prince and the Christian Pope was rightly outraged, put</v>

01:18:31.360 --> 01:18:33.680
<v Speaker 3>the Talmud on trial, and they burned it.</v>

01:18:33.680 --> 01:18:37.120
<v Speaker 3>They destroyed probably billions of dollars worth of Jewish writings.</v>

01:18:37.120 --> 01:18:39.360
<v Speaker 3>And they hate King Louis to this day for it.</v>

01:18:39.360 --> 01:18:41.520
<v Speaker 3>They never give up a grudge.</v>

01:18:41.520 --> 01:18:48.320
<v Speaker 3>Unfortunately, when the decision was made that these Jews' writings are evil,</v>

01:18:48.320 --> 01:18:49.440
<v Speaker 3>they solved the wrong problem.</v>

01:18:50.080 --> 01:18:52.400
<v Speaker 3>They kept the Jews and they burned the books.</v>

01:18:52.400 --> 01:18:54.560
<v Speaker 3>They didn't get rid of the evil by getting rid of the</v>

01:18:54.560 --> 01:18:56.880
<v Speaker 3>books. The evil remained.</v>

01:18:56.880 --> 01:19:00.320
<v Speaker 3>And so within thirty years we have Nicholas of Lyra, who is</v>

01:19:00.320 --> 01:19:04.560
<v Speaker 3>called the ape of Solomon Rashi, publishing the single most influential and</v>

01:19:04.560 --> 01:19:07.840
<v Speaker 3>widely circulated biblical commentary of the later Middle Ages.</v>

01:19:07.840 --> 01:19:08.800
<v Speaker 3>And what did he do?</v>

01:19:08.800 --> 01:19:12.240
<v Speaker 3>He laundered Rashi's arguments for the rest of the church.</v>

01:19:12.240 --> 01:19:14.480
<v Speaker 3>And it doesn't matter if they are good or bad arguments, what</v>

01:19:14.480 --> 01:19:14.720
<v Speaker 3>matters</v>

01:19:15.600 --> 01:19:19.600
<v Speaker 3>is that they were coming from a rabbi who cursed God and</v>

01:19:19.600 --> 01:19:20.880
<v Speaker 3>cursed Christians.</v>

01:19:20.880 --> 01:19:22.880
<v Speaker 3>You never listen to anyone like that.</v>

01:19:22.880 --> 01:19:26.320
<v Speaker 3>It doesn't matter what their arguments are, but because there had been</v>

01:19:26.320 --> 01:19:30.880
<v Speaker 3>a dearth for centuries in the West of anyone making literal arguments,</v>

01:19:30.880 --> 01:19:34.800
<v Speaker 3>rather than Christians discovering their own and fixing the right problem, said,</v>

01:19:34.800 --> 01:19:37.040
<v Speaker 3>Well, let's just import a bunch of stuff from the Jews.</v>

01:19:37.040 --> 01:19:39.840
<v Speaker 3>These rabbis have the scripture stuff nailed down.</v>

01:19:40.000 --> 01:19:44.000
<v Speaker 3>The Gutenberg press was invented in the 1400s, which meant that there</v>

01:19:44.000 --> 01:19:48.960
<v Speaker 3>is now the possibility and the opportunity for mass production of anyone's</v>

01:19:48.960 --> 01:19:53.520
<v Speaker 3>writings. And very quickly what we found was that Jews got a</v>

01:19:53.520 --> 01:19:54.320
<v Speaker 3>hold of printing presses.</v>

01:19:54.320 --> 01:19:56.560
<v Speaker 3>They set up publishing shops.</v>

01:19:56.560 --> 01:20:00.960
<v Speaker 3>When we look at the modern media domination of Jews, I don't</v>

01:20:00.880 --> 01:20:04.160
<v Speaker 3>know what it was like prior to Gutenberg, but that was very</v>

01:20:04.160 --> 01:20:07.760
<v Speaker 3>likely the genesis of Jews in media.</v>

01:20:07.760 --> 01:20:13.200
<v Speaker 3>They set up printing presses, producing their own books, producing these works</v>

01:20:13.200 --> 01:20:17.760
<v Speaker 3>of blasphemy, including the Hebrew so called Bible.</v>

01:20:17.760 --> 01:20:19.200
<v Speaker 3>It was no such thing.</v>

01:20:19.200 --> 01:20:22.240
<v Speaker 3>It was the Masoretic text, it was a rabbinic text, which was</v>

01:20:22.240 --> 01:20:26.560
<v Speaker 3>rejection of Christ, which was riddled with alterations, that the early church</v>

01:20:26.560 --> 01:20:31.200
<v Speaker 3>explicitly condemned, said that they had deliberately changed it.</v>

01:20:31.200 --> 01:20:36.640
<v Speaker 3>All this was placed on the table immediately prior to the Reformation,</v>

01:20:36.640 --> 01:20:41.520
<v Speaker 3>when Johannes Reuchlin, who was a very well connected man politically, became</v>

01:20:41.520 --> 01:20:45.440
<v Speaker 3>a Kabbalist when he studied the Kabbalah under the influence of a</v>

01:20:45.920 --> 01:20:49.200
<v Speaker 3>truly profoundly wicked rabbi, if you can even narrow it down.</v>

01:20:49.200 --> 01:20:51.360
<v Speaker 3>This man was worse than most.</v>

01:20:51.360 --> 01:20:56.480
<v Speaker 3>This man specifically programmed Roychlin in the Kabbalah, inculcated him to it,</v>

01:20:56.480 --> 01:20:58.400
<v Speaker 3>initiated him, and he loved it.</v>

01:20:58.400 --> 01:21:01.200
<v Speaker 3>He published that stuff and tried to bring it into the church.</v>

01:21:01.200 --> 01:21:06.160
<v Speaker 3>And although that was shot down, they still accepted Reuchlin's primer for</v>

01:21:06.160 --> 01:21:08.080
<v Speaker 3>how to teach yourself Hebrew.</v>

01:21:08.080 --> 01:21:11.280
<v Speaker 3>Because the book that he published to show the rudiments of Hebrew</v>

01:21:11.360 --> 01:21:14.880
<v Speaker 3>so that anyone in the Christian church could learn it, you didn't</v>

01:21:14.880 --> 01:21:16.480
<v Speaker 3>have to have a rabbi in the loop anymore.</v>

01:21:16.480 --> 01:21:19.520
<v Speaker 3>You could just buy Reuchlin's book and you could learn Hebrew at</v>

01:21:19.520 --> 01:21:21.200
<v Speaker 3>home in fifteen minutes a day.</v>

01:21:21.200 --> 01:21:24.320
<v Speaker 3>And now we have a case where you don't even feel like</v>

01:21:24.320 --> 01:21:26.320
<v Speaker 3>you're going and talking to the rabbis.</v>

01:21:26.320 --> 01:21:29.920
<v Speaker 3>You're just learning from this Christian book Reuchlin, the book that he</v>

01:21:29.920 --> 01:21:32.880
<v Speaker 3>has where you can learn Hebrew, and then you're reading the Hebrew</v>

01:21:32.880 --> 01:21:35.920
<v Speaker 3>Bible that you brought from Bomberg or one of the other Jewish</v>

01:21:35.920 --> 01:21:38.480
<v Speaker 3>printers. And how are you doing anything wrong?</v>

01:21:38.560 --> 01:21:40.080
<v Speaker 3>This is the original word of God.</v>

01:21:40.080 --> 01:21:43.520
<v Speaker 3>This is the pure fountain from which this muddy stream of the</v>

01:21:43.520 --> 01:21:45.120
<v Speaker 3>Vulgay came from, isn't it?</v>

01:21:45.120 --> 01:21:47.200
<v Speaker 3>Why shouldn't we go back to the source?</v>

01:21:47.200 --> 01:21:50.720
<v Speaker 3>Everywhere along the way they thought they were doing something entirely holy</v>

01:21:50.720 --> 01:21:53.600
<v Speaker 3>and godly, nobody batted an eye.</v>

01:21:53.600 --> 01:21:56.880
<v Speaker 3>They were solving the immediate problem, which in many cases was the</v>

01:21:56.880 --> 01:22:01.440
<v Speaker 3>right problem, but they didn't solve the fundamental underlying problem, which was</v>

01:22:01.440 --> 01:22:06.400
<v Speaker 3>that they were bringing evil into the midst of the church.</v>

01:22:06.400 --> 01:22:14.400
<v Speaker 3>And so after publishing the rudiments of Hebrew, Reuchlin named Philip Mangthan,</v>

01:22:14.400 --> 01:22:17.120
<v Speaker 3>gave him his last name, taught him Hebrew.</v>

01:22:17.120 --> 01:22:21.600
<v Speaker 3>And then Melanchthon was the man whom Luther relied upon for his</v>

01:22:21.600 --> 01:22:23.360
<v Speaker 3>linguistic expertise.</v>

01:22:23.360 --> 01:22:27.680
<v Speaker 3>At the very inception of the Reformation, the very moment when there</v>

01:22:27.680 --> 01:22:32.400
<v Speaker 3>was the opportunity to actually take a critical look at texts, everything</v>

01:22:32.400 --> 01:22:35.440
<v Speaker 3>had been laid out so that the decision would go in the</v>

01:22:35.440 --> 01:22:37.760
<v Speaker 3>direction of we need even more Jewish stuff.</v>

01:22:37.760 --> 01:22:41.120
<v Speaker 3>We need more rabbis, we need more Hebrew, we have to get</v>

01:22:41.120 --> 01:22:43.680
<v Speaker 3>back to the Hebrew roots of the Christian faith.</v>

01:22:43.680 --> 01:22:46.720
<v Speaker 3>That's basically what people think to this day.</v>

01:22:46.720 --> 01:22:52.480
<v Speaker 3>From four hundred with Jerome through fifteen whatever with the early Reformation,</v>

01:22:52.480 --> 01:22:55.280
<v Speaker 3>you can pick any number, any date you want, any year.</v>

01:22:55.760 --> 01:22:59.680
<v Speaker 3>What you will find is at no point did anyone say, as</v>

01:22:59.680 --> 01:23:03.040
<v Speaker 3>a church, should we look at the Septuagint or should we look</v>

01:23:03.040 --> 01:23:04.480
<v Speaker 3>at the rabbinic text?</v>

01:23:04.480 --> 01:23:06.320
<v Speaker 3>The question was never asked.</v>

01:23:06.320 --> 01:23:09.600
<v Speaker 3>The Septuagint was never invited to the party, because it was in</v>

01:23:09.600 --> 01:23:13.680
<v Speaker 3>Greek. And although starting in the twelve hundreds, Europeans began to learn</v>

01:23:13.680 --> 01:23:17.360
<v Speaker 3>Hebrew, they didn't learn Greek until the late fourteen hundreds.</v>

01:23:17.360 --> 01:23:19.680
<v Speaker 3>That was a very late breaking thing.</v>

01:23:19.680 --> 01:23:23.440
<v Speaker 3>And when they did that, it was not for purposes of scholarship</v>

01:23:23.440 --> 01:23:27.520
<v Speaker 3>initially. They weren't even interested in theology, because what does Greek have</v>

01:23:27.520 --> 01:23:28.240
<v Speaker 3>to do with theology?</v>

01:23:28.240 --> 01:23:30.640
<v Speaker 3>We already have the New Testament, we're fine.</v>

01:23:30.640 --> 01:23:35.680
<v Speaker 3>It was a perfect storm of apathy, of misdirection and of false</v>

01:23:35.680 --> 01:23:39.760
<v Speaker 3>choices being made and established and locked in.</v>

01:23:39.760 --> 01:23:44.640
<v Speaker 3>So when we look at the Septuagint itself, we find why that</v>

01:23:44.640 --> 01:23:47.840
<v Speaker 3>lack of a conscious decision was such a serious problem.</v>

01:23:48.400 --> 01:23:53.280
<v Speaker 3>We find many cases where Christological prophecies and passages have been altered</v>

01:23:53.280 --> 01:23:55.600
<v Speaker 3>or neutered entirely.</v>

01:23:55.600 --> 01:23:59.360
<v Speaker 3>And when you look at your modern Bible, it will simply quote</v>

01:23:59.360 --> 01:24:03.920
<v Speaker 3>the Septuagint, even though the Hebrew says something else, the Rabbinic text</v>

01:24:03.920 --> 01:24:07.040
<v Speaker 3>does not say what your Bible says, but if it's a Christological</v>

01:24:07.040 --> 01:24:10.560
<v Speaker 3>passage, they're going to import it from the Septuagint and not tell</v>

01:24:10.560 --> 01:24:13.680
<v Speaker 3>you. And yet there are also cases where some of the rabbinic</v>

01:24:13.680 --> 01:24:18.000
<v Speaker 3>readings seem more Christological than what's in the Septuagint, which is a</v>

01:24:18.000 --> 01:24:22.480
<v Speaker 3>trap. Because if your hermeneutic for which Bible, which textual source is</v>

01:24:22.640 --> 01:24:25.760
<v Speaker 3>your scripture, is going to be, well, which one has more Jesus?</v>

01:24:26.320 --> 01:24:26.880
<v Speaker 3>You know what?</v>

01:24:26.880 --> 01:24:28.160
<v Speaker 3>You're going to become a Mormon.</v>

01:24:28.160 --> 01:24:30.800
<v Speaker 3>Because they've got a whole extra book of Jesus.</v>

01:24:30.800 --> 01:24:31.840
<v Speaker 3>They got a New Testament.</v>

01:24:31.840 --> 01:24:33.200
<v Speaker 3>They got a new Testament.</v>

01:24:33.200 --> 01:24:36.000
<v Speaker 3>They got even more Jesus than we dumb Christians do.</v>

01:24:36.000 --> 01:24:39.440
<v Speaker 3>So if your hermeneutic is, I want the most Jesus possible, you</v>

01:24:39.440 --> 01:24:42.320
<v Speaker 3>can forget the rabbis and you can forget the Christians and you</v>

01:24:42.320 --> 01:24:43.840
<v Speaker 3>can go to the Mormons.</v>

01:24:43.840 --> 01:24:46.960
<v Speaker 3>It's obviously not a permissible hermeneutic.</v>

01:24:46.960 --> 01:24:50.480
<v Speaker 3>We do not judge the text based on how much we like</v>

01:24:50.480 --> 01:24:52.560
<v Speaker 3>it. So how do we judge it?</v>

01:24:52.560 --> 01:24:55.680
<v Speaker 3>Well, we judge it based on what Jesus and the apostles did,</v>

01:24:55.680 --> 01:24:59.920
<v Speaker 3>what they viewed, and we look at the text itself.</v>

01:24:59.920 --> 01:25:02.480
<v Speaker 3>When we look at the text, we find that there are entire</v>

01:25:02.480 --> 01:25:06.560
<v Speaker 3>books like Psalms and Proverbs that are radically different.</v>

01:25:06.560 --> 01:25:09.760
<v Speaker 3>Proverbs is a completely different book in the Septuagint.</v>

01:25:09.760 --> 01:25:14.400
<v Speaker 3>Some of the conclusions, some of the wisdom is just fundamentally different.</v>

01:25:14.400 --> 01:25:17.760
<v Speaker 3>As we said in the wisdom episode, you've never read Proverbs until</v>

01:25:17.760 --> 01:25:20.160
<v Speaker 3>you've read it in the Septuagint.</v>

01:25:20.160 --> 01:25:22.480
<v Speaker 3>And those books are not isolated.</v>

01:25:22.480 --> 01:25:26.400
<v Speaker 3>When you look at Esther, when you look at Jeremiah, you have</v>

01:25:26.400 --> 01:25:28.560
<v Speaker 3>entire books rearranged entirely.</v>

01:25:28.560 --> 01:25:33.040
<v Speaker 3>You have sections added, sections removed, the story is completely retold.</v>

01:25:33.040 --> 01:25:37.360
<v Speaker 3>The story of Esther and Jeremiah is fundamentally different in the Septuagint</v>

01:25:37.360 --> 01:25:40.000
<v Speaker 3>than it is in the Bible on your shelf at home.</v>

01:25:40.000 --> 01:25:43.600
<v Speaker 3>When you look at books like Job, you have substantial details that</v>

01:25:43.600 --> 01:25:44.720
<v Speaker 3>have been erased.</v>

01:25:44.720 --> 01:25:47.840
<v Speaker 3>They would put King Job right in the historical context during the</v>

01:25:47.840 --> 01:25:50.400
<v Speaker 3>Hebrews Egyptian captivity.</v>

01:25:50.400 --> 01:25:54.880
<v Speaker 3>The problem with removing King Job from his context is that you</v>

01:25:54.880 --> 01:25:57.760
<v Speaker 3>lose sight of what we find in the very last verse of</v>

01:25:57.760 --> 01:26:01.280
<v Speaker 3>Job. And his friends who came to him were Eliphaz of the</v>

01:26:01.280 --> 01:26:06.000
<v Speaker 3>children of Esau, King of the Thamanites, Baldad sovereign of the Saukians,</v>

01:26:06.000 --> 01:26:08.080
<v Speaker 3>Sophar king of the Menaeans.</v>

01:26:08.160 --> 01:26:12.080
<v Speaker 3>We have the Edomites, the Thamanites, the Salkians, and the Menaeans, all</v>

01:26:12.080 --> 01:26:16.640
<v Speaker 3>Christians. They were all believers in the one true God, simultaneous to</v>

01:26:16.720 --> 01:26:22.720
<v Speaker 3>and neighboring to the Hebrews, who were enslaved for their faithlessness.</v>

01:26:23.200 --> 01:26:27.520
<v Speaker 3>The redaction, the removal of those things from Job means you don't</v>

01:26:27.520 --> 01:26:28.960
<v Speaker 3>pay any attention to that.</v>

01:26:28.960 --> 01:26:32.240
<v Speaker 3>You think that the Hebrews were the only believers on the planet.</v>

01:26:32.240 --> 01:26:34.000
<v Speaker 3>They were the only elect who existed.</v>

01:26:34.000 --> 01:26:36.000
<v Speaker 3>They were the only elect who ever existed.</v>

01:26:36.000 --> 01:26:37.760
<v Speaker 3>They were the chosen ones.</v>

01:26:37.760 --> 01:26:39.840
<v Speaker 3>Chosen and elect are synonyms.</v>

01:26:39.840 --> 01:26:42.880
<v Speaker 3>Anytime you hear anyone say chosen, just think elect.</v>

01:26:42.880 --> 01:26:44.960
<v Speaker 3>And remember that's Christian doctrine.</v>

01:26:44.960 --> 01:26:48.240
<v Speaker 3>That has nothing to do with a race of Middle East people.</v>

01:26:48.240 --> 01:26:52.400
<v Speaker 3>The Edomites, for a long time, were the chosen people.</v>

01:26:52.400 --> 01:26:53.440
<v Speaker 3>They were elect.</v>

01:26:53.440 --> 01:26:57.760
<v Speaker 3>We know that because King Job was generations after Esau, and he</v>

01:26:57.760 --> 01:27:01.520
<v Speaker 3>was the most faithful man alive, and so were his sons, and</v>

01:27:01.520 --> 01:27:04.160
<v Speaker 3>his friends who came to him the other kings.</v>

01:27:04.160 --> 01:27:07.920
<v Speaker 3>Although their theology was not great in some of their arguments, they</v>

01:27:07.920 --> 01:27:09.600
<v Speaker 3>were confessing the true God.</v>

01:27:09.600 --> 01:27:13.120
<v Speaker 3>These were Christians coming and talking to Job about the Christian God.</v>

01:27:13.120 --> 01:27:17.040
<v Speaker 3>They were kings over their kingdoms, and they loved and cared for</v>

01:27:17.040 --> 01:27:20.880
<v Speaker 3>their friend, their Christian friend, King Job, so much, that they took</v>

01:27:20.880 --> 01:27:24.480
<v Speaker 3>time off work as king to go commiserate with him, and to</v>

01:27:24.480 --> 01:27:25.760
<v Speaker 3>try to encourage him.</v>

01:27:25.760 --> 01:27:29.120
<v Speaker 3>And although they didn't do a great job, they did it as</v>

01:27:29.120 --> 01:27:33.600
<v Speaker 3>Christians. We're certainly in no worse shape today with our own friends.</v>

01:27:33.600 --> 01:27:36.480
<v Speaker 3>Those nations that were not</v>

01:27:37.440 --> 01:27:39.840
<v Speaker 3>of Jacob were Christian.</v>

01:27:39.840 --> 01:27:43.120
<v Speaker 3>They were believers in the one true God, and later on they</v>

01:27:43.120 --> 01:27:44.240
<v Speaker 3>lost the faith.</v>

01:27:44.240 --> 01:27:46.800
<v Speaker 3>We can't find that surprising because when you look at the Old</v>

01:27:46.800 --> 01:27:50.560
<v Speaker 3>Testament, you find exactly the same thing happening with the Hebrews.</v>

01:27:50.560 --> 01:27:52.480
<v Speaker 3>They continuously lost faith.</v>

01:27:52.480 --> 01:27:55.840
<v Speaker 3>There are very few episodes in the history of those people where</v>

01:27:55.840 --> 01:27:58.720
<v Speaker 3>they were not apostate, or nearly so.</v>

01:27:58.720 --> 01:28:02.640
<v Speaker 3>There was some tiny remnant, sometimes it was only a few prophets</v>

01:28:02.640 --> 01:28:05.760
<v Speaker 3>were left, and everyone else had fallen into idolatry.</v>

01:28:05.760 --> 01:28:10.880
<v Speaker 3>That was the tenuous hold that Christianity had among the Hebrews.</v>

01:28:10.880 --> 01:28:14.560
<v Speaker 3>So we can't pick on the other nations that were also descended</v>

01:28:14.720 --> 01:28:17.920
<v Speaker 3>and also knew God at that time that they fell away, just</v>

01:28:17.920 --> 01:28:19.600
<v Speaker 3>as we're falling away today.</v>

01:28:19.600 --> 01:28:22.240
<v Speaker 3>These stories are a warning to us.</v>

01:28:22.240 --> 01:28:24.640
<v Speaker 3>These stories are not about Jews.</v>

01:28:24.640 --> 01:28:28.400
<v Speaker 3>These stories are about humanity and its connection to God and how</v>

01:28:28.400 --> 01:28:31.680
<v Speaker 3>easy it is for us to throw God away and how hard</v>

01:28:31.680 --> 01:28:34.400
<v Speaker 3>God fights to hang on to us.</v>

01:28:34.400 --> 01:28:37.200
<v Speaker 3>When you look at the other alterations that were made by the</v>

01:28:37.200 --> 01:28:41.360
<v Speaker 3>rabbis to the Old Testament, you see these other changes to timelines,</v>

01:28:41.360 --> 01:28:47.840
<v Speaker 3>not only Job being deleted from the timeline, but significant Christological alterations</v>

01:28:47.840 --> 01:28:52.080
<v Speaker 3>of the timeline, alterations that simply make history no longer align with</v>

01:28:52.080 --> 01:28:53.280
<v Speaker 3>scripture itself.</v>

01:28:53.280 --> 01:28:57.120
<v Speaker 3>Changes that when the rabbis were making them to blaspheme God, they</v>

01:28:57.120 --> 01:29:00.560
<v Speaker 3>didn't realize that later on archaeology was going to prove them liars,</v>

01:29:00.560 --> 01:29:04.560
<v Speaker 3>was going to prove the rabbinic text a lie and a forgery.</v>

01:29:04.560 --> 01:29:07.280
<v Speaker 3>The Septuagint doesn't have those problems.</v>

01:29:07.280 --> 01:29:09.040
<v Speaker 3>So how do we reconcile all this?</v>

01:29:09.040 --> 01:29:12.800
<v Speaker 3>How do we look at this mass of confusion and error?</v>

01:29:12.800 --> 01:29:15.440
<v Speaker 3>And how do we as sitting here in the twenty first century,</v>

01:29:15.440 --> 01:29:17.280
<v Speaker 3>how can we possibly pick a winner?</v>

01:29:17.280 --> 01:29:18.480
<v Speaker 3>We weren't there.</v>

01:29:18.480 --> 01:29:21.840
<v Speaker 3>We don't have the very oldest manuscripts of any of these things.</v>

01:29:21.840 --> 01:29:23.360
<v Speaker 3>We have copies of copies.</v>

01:29:23.360 --> 01:29:26.160
<v Speaker 3>How do we pick the winner when you're just looking at things</v>

01:29:26.160 --> 01:29:27.600
<v Speaker 3>sitting on a table?</v>

01:29:27.600 --> 01:29:29.360
<v Speaker 3>You look to the New Testament.</v>

01:29:29.360 --> 01:29:32.560
<v Speaker 3>That's why we say the New Testament as our closing argument.</v>

01:29:32.560 --> 01:29:34.560
<v Speaker 3>We don't have to make exegetical arguments.</v>

01:29:34.560 --> 01:29:37.680
<v Speaker 3>We don't have to make theological arguments for the Septuagint.</v>

01:29:37.680 --> 01:29:41.200
<v Speaker 3>We have to make the argument the New Testament calls the Septuagint</v>

01:29:41.360 --> 01:29:43.120
<v Speaker 3>scripture over and over again.</v>

01:29:43.120 --> 01:29:45.920
<v Speaker 3>There are over 300 quotes in the New Testament of the Old</v>

01:29:45.920 --> 01:29:48.880
<v Speaker 3>Testament, and all but about half a dozen of them are from</v>

01:29:48.880 --> 01:29:50.480
<v Speaker 3>the Septuagint.</v>

01:29:50.480 --> 01:29:55.040
<v Speaker 3>There are over six dozen that are exclusively from the Septuagint.</v>

01:29:55.120 --> 01:29:58.560
<v Speaker 3>Cannot possibly be from the rabbinic text.</v>

01:29:58.560 --> 01:30:03.680
<v Speaker 3>And it's not simply limited to one or two books.</v>

01:30:03.680 --> 01:30:07.200
<v Speaker 3>There are thirteen different Old Testament books that are quoted, so we're</v>

01:30:07.120 --> 01:30:08.800
<v Speaker 3>not talking about the Pentateuch.</v>

01:30:08.800 --> 01:30:12.480
<v Speaker 3>We're talking about a random grab bag, talking about wisdom literature, the</v>

01:30:12.480 --> 01:30:17.120
<v Speaker 3>Pentateuch, Minor Prophets, it's all over the place The New Testament is</v>

01:30:17.120 --> 01:30:22.480
<v Speaker 3>indiscriminate about which Greek Old Testament books it cites, as Scripture.</v>

01:30:22.480 --> 01:30:24.320
<v Speaker 3>We must do the same.</v>

01:30:24.320 --> 01:30:26.720
<v Speaker 3>We have to take it as a whole.</v>

01:30:26.720 --> 01:30:31.360
<v Speaker 3>When thirteen Old Testament books are quoted from the Septuagint in seventeen</v>

01:30:31.360 --> 01:30:37.200
<v Speaker 3>different New Testament books, that is beyond overwhelming evidence.</v>

01:30:37.200 --> 01:30:41.040
<v Speaker 3>You cannot possibly carve anything out of the Septuagint and say, okay,</v>

01:30:41.040 --> 01:30:43.600
<v Speaker 3>well, we'll take this, but we're gonna have to carve this out</v>

01:30:43.600 --> 01:30:46.000
<v Speaker 3>and say that this this isn't scripture.</v>

01:30:46.000 --> 01:30:49.040
<v Speaker 3>There's no way to reach that conclusion, not with the numbers involved</v>

01:30:49.200 --> 01:30:53.200
<v Speaker 3>here. As we've said, 44% of those quotes were from Isaiah alone.</v>

01:30:53.200 --> 01:30:55.120
<v Speaker 3>That is overwhelming.</v>

01:30:55.120 --> 01:31:00.400
<v Speaker 3>Particularly when contrasted with the so called Qumran Caves discoveries.</v>

01:31:00.400 --> 01:31:03.760
<v Speaker 3>These things that are supposed to once again reconnect us to our</v>

01:31:03.760 --> 01:31:05.840
<v Speaker 3>Judeo Christian roots.</v>

01:31:05.840 --> 01:31:08.400
<v Speaker 3>It is Judeo, it is not Christian.</v>

01:31:08.400 --> 01:31:10.800
<v Speaker 3>It has no nexus to the Christian faith.</v>

01:31:10.800 --> 01:31:14.240
<v Speaker 3>Nothing that came out of the Kumon case has anything to do</v>

01:31:14.240 --> 01:31:19.040
<v Speaker 3>with Christianity, except that it exists to subvert it.</v>

01:31:19.040 --> 01:31:22.240
<v Speaker 3>What we are dealing with here is something that Corey and I</v>

01:31:22.240 --> 01:31:25.360
<v Speaker 3>have referred to numerous times over numerous episodes, even before getting to</v>

01:31:25.360 --> 01:31:27.040
<v Speaker 3>the Septuagint.</v>

01:31:27.040 --> 01:31:29.120
<v Speaker 3>We have found the book of the law in the house of</v>

01:31:29.120 --> 01:31:30.080
<v Speaker 3>the Lord.</v>

01:31:30.080 --> 01:31:35.840
<v Speaker 3>The story of Josiah, who incidentally, in the Greek, is named Jos,</v>

01:31:35.840 --> 01:31:40.320
<v Speaker 3>and the high priest is not Helkaih, it's Calcius.</v>

01:31:40.320 --> 01:31:42.560
<v Speaker 3>I had to go look that up 'cause I didn't know what</v>

01:31:42.560 --> 01:31:43.200
<v Speaker 3>their names were.</v>

01:31:43.200 --> 01:31:44.240
<v Speaker 3>I had no idea.</v>

01:31:44.240 --> 01:31:46.640
<v Speaker 3>That's a really good reminder to all of us.</v>

01:31:46.960 --> 01:31:49.280
<v Speaker 3>Whenever we realize, oh I don't even know what that guy's name</v>

01:31:49.280 --> 01:31:51.200
<v Speaker 3>is in the old testament because I've never looked at it in</v>

01:31:51.200 --> 01:31:52.000
<v Speaker 3>the Greek.</v>

01:31:52.000 --> 01:31:52.960
<v Speaker 3>That's a reminder.</v>

01:31:52.960 --> 01:31:54.320
<v Speaker 3>Go back and look at that text.</v>

01:31:54.320 --> 01:31:56.400
<v Speaker 3>Just see what the Septuagint says there.</v>

01:31:56.400 --> 01:31:58.320
<v Speaker 3>Maybe the name is the only thing that's different.</v>

01:31:58.320 --> 01:32:00.960
<v Speaker 3>In some cases that will be what you find.</v>

01:32:00.960 --> 01:32:03.600
<v Speaker 3>In other cases what you'll find is that it's not the same</v>

01:32:03.600 --> 01:32:04.480
<v Speaker 3>story at all.</v>

01:32:04.480 --> 01:32:07.680
<v Speaker 3>If you happen to flip to Aster, it's not the same book.</v>

01:32:07.680 --> 01:32:09.440
<v Speaker 3>Jeremiah is totally rearranged.</v>

01:32:09.440 --> 01:32:10.640
<v Speaker 3>We didn't even get to it.</v>

01:32:10.640 --> 01:32:13.840
<v Speaker 3>As I mentioned in the previous episode, we found out about that</v>

01:32:13.840 --> 01:32:16.080
<v Speaker 3>afterwards. We probably wouldn't have touched it anyway.</v>

01:32:16.080 --> 01:32:20.480
<v Speaker 3>There's so much work here beyond what any human being can do</v>

01:32:20.480 --> 01:32:21.760
<v Speaker 3>in his entire life.</v>

01:32:21.760 --> 01:32:26.320
<v Speaker 3>There's literally centuries of Christian scholarship ahead of the church.</v>

01:32:26.320 --> 01:32:30.720
<v Speaker 3>What we must do is respond as Josias did.</v>

01:32:30.720 --> 01:32:33.440
<v Speaker 3>What did he do when the book of the law was found</v>

01:32:33.440 --> 01:32:34.720
<v Speaker 3>in the house of the Lord?</v>

01:32:34.880 --> 01:32:37.280
<v Speaker 3>Was essentially found in rubble.</v>

01:32:37.280 --> 01:32:38.560
<v Speaker 3>He repented.</v>

01:32:38.560 --> 01:32:44.080
<v Speaker 3>He waited, he wept, he tore his cloak in anguish, because he</v>

01:32:44.080 --> 01:32:48.000
<v Speaker 3>had been evil for believing the things he had believed before then.</v>

01:32:48.000 --> 01:32:49.680
<v Speaker 3>Even though he was a believer.</v>

01:32:49.680 --> 01:32:51.680
<v Speaker 3>He was already trying to clean up the temple at the time</v>

01:32:51.920 --> 01:32:52.960
<v Speaker 3>that they found this stuff.</v>

01:32:52.960 --> 01:32:54.720
<v Speaker 3>That's why the workmen were in there.</v>

01:32:54.720 --> 01:32:59.440
<v Speaker 3>He was beginning to do away with the idolatry when he discovered</v>

01:32:59.440 --> 01:33:02.320
<v Speaker 3>that they had lost scripture entirely.</v>

01:33:02.320 --> 01:33:06.880
<v Speaker 3>And when you look at the various prophets that rose up around</v>

01:33:06.880 --> 01:33:10.080
<v Speaker 3>that time, it's clear just how bad things were.</v>

01:33:10.080 --> 01:33:13.920
<v Speaker 3>There's a lot of scripture right around this period of Josiah's.</v>

01:33:13.920 --> 01:33:20.160
<v Speaker 3>Because of his repentance, God God specifically personally spared him from what</v>

01:33:20.160 --> 01:33:21.040
<v Speaker 3>was to come.</v>

01:33:21.040 --> 01:33:24.720
<v Speaker 3>He made a promise to him after he repented of the wickedness</v>

01:33:24.720 --> 01:33:27.680
<v Speaker 3>of his father's having lost the Bible.</v>

01:33:27.680 --> 01:33:30.320
<v Speaker 3>And God's promise to him was very simple.</v>

01:33:30.320 --> 01:33:34.160
<v Speaker 3>Just as I have destroyed the northern kingdom before you, after you</v>

01:33:34.160 --> 01:33:36.080
<v Speaker 3>die, I'm going to destroy the southern kingdom.</v>

01:33:36.080 --> 01:33:37.760
<v Speaker 3>I'm going to destroy Judah.</v>

01:33:37.760 --> 01:33:41.360
<v Speaker 3>God destroyed Judah because they lost the Bible.</v>

01:33:42.240 --> 01:33:46.320
<v Speaker 3>Josiah alone was spared because of his repentance when he heard what</v>

01:33:46.320 --> 01:33:47.360
<v Speaker 3>was in the word.</v>

01:33:47.360 --> 01:33:51.360
<v Speaker 3>He believed it, he repented, and God spared him the wrath.</v>

01:33:51.360 --> 01:33:53.440
<v Speaker 3>And he was called a good man.</v>

01:33:53.440 --> 01:33:58.400
<v Speaker 3>Nevertheless, the fate of Judah, of the southern kingdom, was the same</v>

01:33:58.400 --> 01:34:01.120
<v Speaker 3>as the north because of their apostasy.</v>

01:34:01.120 --> 01:34:03.680
<v Speaker 3>Because when they heard the word of God, when they heard the</v>

01:34:03.680 --> 01:34:05.920
<v Speaker 3>voice of God, they didn't believe it.</v>

01:34:05.920 --> 01:34:10.880
<v Speaker 3>We point to Josiah's repentance because we are in that exact situation</v>

01:34:10.880 --> 01:34:14.560
<v Speaker 3>today. We are in a situation where we are not talking about</v>

01:34:14.560 --> 01:34:16.320
<v Speaker 3>a translation of the Bible.</v>

01:34:16.320 --> 01:34:19.920
<v Speaker 3>When we talk about the Septuagint, we talk about the very Bible</v>

01:34:19.920 --> 01:34:23.360
<v Speaker 3>that Jesus and the Apostles used, we talk about the Bible that</v>

01:34:23.360 --> 01:34:28.080
<v Speaker 3>the early church thankfully and by God's providence preserved for us.</v>

01:34:28.080 --> 01:34:32.720
<v Speaker 3>We are talking about having to look at every single decision that</v>

01:34:32.720 --> 01:34:36.720
<v Speaker 3>the church has ever made based on the arguments of the rabbis.</v>

01:34:36.720 --> 01:34:39.840
<v Speaker 3>That's part of why it's gonna take centuries, because a lot of</v>

01:34:39.840 --> 01:34:43.200
<v Speaker 3>the theology that we have sitting on our shelves is based in</v>

01:34:43.200 --> 01:34:47.760
<v Speaker 3>some part on the rabbinic text and on rabbinic lies.</v>

01:34:47.760 --> 01:34:48.880
<v Speaker 3>Not all of it.</v>

01:34:48.880 --> 01:34:50.720
<v Speaker 3>We don't know what's in there.</v>

01:34:50.720 --> 01:34:53.920
<v Speaker 3>But we are going to be confronted as Christians with a choice</v>

01:34:53.920 --> 01:34:55.840
<v Speaker 3>when we find those things.</v>

01:34:55.840 --> 01:34:58.240
<v Speaker 3>Are we going to hear the voice of God in the Greek</v>

01:34:58.240 --> 01:35:00.080
<v Speaker 3>scripture that He gave to us?</v>

01:35:00.080 --> 01:35:04.640
<v Speaker 3>Or are we gonna instead follow the teachings of men?</v>

01:35:04.640 --> 01:35:06.800
<v Speaker 3>Men who in their day were Christians.</v>

01:35:06.800 --> 01:35:12.080
<v Speaker 3>Although they fell victim to this fraud, they will be forgiven for</v>

01:35:12.080 --> 01:35:14.000
<v Speaker 3>it, because they did not know.</v>

01:35:14.000 --> 01:35:14.480
<v Speaker 3>They missed</v>

01:35:15.360 --> 01:35:18.880
<v Speaker 3>this. We are not in a position where we can miss it.</v>

01:35:18.880 --> 01:35:21.600
<v Speaker 3>When we're looking at this, now that this has been laid on</v>

01:35:21.600 --> 01:35:24.880
<v Speaker 3>the table plainly in front of us, a decision will have to</v>

01:35:24.880 --> 01:35:28.640
<v Speaker 3>be made in the future, in the near future for every Christian,</v>

01:35:28.640 --> 01:35:30.640
<v Speaker 3>what do I do with the Septuagint?</v>

01:35:30.640 --> 01:35:32.720
<v Speaker 3>What relationship does it have with me?</v>

01:35:32.720 --> 01:35:35.120
<v Speaker 3>Is this scripture or is it a fraud?</v>

01:35:35.120 --> 01:35:37.280
<v Speaker 3>Because it's got to be one or the other.</v>

01:35:37.280 --> 01:35:41.040
<v Speaker 3>There's this whole mixing of the Greek and the rabbinic text is</v>

01:35:41.040 --> 01:35:42.400
<v Speaker 3>utterly impermissible.</v>

01:35:42.400 --> 01:35:43.680
<v Speaker 3>It's wicked.</v>

01:35:43.680 --> 01:35:47.600
<v Speaker 3>Either scripture is breathed out in Hebrew or it's breathed out in</v>

01:35:47.600 --> 01:35:50.960
<v Speaker 3>Greek, and Hebrew is destroyed and lost.</v>

01:35:50.960 --> 01:35:54.560
<v Speaker 3>The facts that we have presented here can only possibly reach one</v>

01:35:54.560 --> 01:35:57.280
<v Speaker 3>conclusion for a Christian mind.</v>

01:35:57.280 --> 01:36:00.000
<v Speaker 3>And although we're not going to get into the theology either in</v>

01:36:00.000 --> 01:36:03.280
<v Speaker 3>this episode or the bonus episode on what impact that's going to</v>

01:36:03.280 --> 01:36:06.480
<v Speaker 3>have on the church, I want to give you one small pointer</v>

01:36:06.560 --> 01:36:09.280
<v Speaker 3>just to give you some idea that we're not just talking about</v>

01:36:09.280 --> 01:36:11.360
<v Speaker 3>a new Bible in your pews.</v>

01:36:11.360 --> 01:36:17.440
<v Speaker 3>The Westminster Confession of 1646, the Savoy Declaration of 1658, the Second</v>

01:36:17.440 --> 01:36:22.560
<v Speaker 3>London Baptist Confession of sixteen eighty nine, all read the same way,</v>

01:36:22.560 --> 01:36:24.320
<v Speaker 3>chapter one, section eight.</v>

01:36:24.480 --> 01:36:29.680
<v Speaker 3>SUMMARISING. The OLT TEMEN in Hebrew has been immediately inspired by God.</v>

01:36:29.680 --> 01:36:33.520
<v Speaker 3>It has been kept pure in all ages, it is authentic, and</v>

01:36:33.520 --> 01:36:37.920
<v Speaker 3>it must be used as the final judge in all controversies.</v>

01:36:37.920 --> 01:36:41.040
<v Speaker 3>This is the controversy of all controversies.</v>

01:36:41.040 --> 01:36:44.160
<v Speaker 3>Any one of you who holds to any of those confessions is</v>

01:36:44.400 --> 01:36:48.800
<v Speaker 3>He is bound confessionally to call us liars and to reject the</v>

01:36:48.800 --> 01:36:52.080
<v Speaker 3>Septuagint. And in fact, to reject your own Bibles because your own</v>

01:36:52.080 --> 01:36:54.400
<v Speaker 3>Bibles are not based on the Hebrew text.</v>

01:36:54.400 --> 01:36:58.320
<v Speaker 3>Your confession that says Hebrew, your Bible does not save Hebrew.</v>

01:36:58.320 --> 01:37:01.360
<v Speaker 3>Your Bible is riddled with Septuagint.</v>

01:37:01.360 --> 01:37:06.160
<v Speaker 3>It's riddled with this infection from this Greek text that your confession</v>

01:37:06.160 --> 01:37:07.600
<v Speaker 3>says is false.</v>

01:37:07.600 --> 01:37:09.920
<v Speaker 3>Whenever it disagrees with the Hebrew.</v>

01:37:09.920 --> 01:37:13.680
<v Speaker 3>Your Bible does not conform to the Westminster Confession.</v>

01:37:13.680 --> 01:37:15.520
<v Speaker 3>Flat out.</v>

01:37:15.520 --> 01:37:17.120
<v Speaker 3>That's not our problem.</v>

01:37:17.120 --> 01:37:19.680
<v Speaker 3>That's a problem for each individual to look at.</v>

01:37:19.680 --> 01:37:22.000
<v Speaker 3>And to figure out what are you going to do with this?</v>

01:37:22.000 --> 01:37:25.360
<v Speaker 3>And again, it doesn't matter how faithful the men who came up</v>

01:37:25.360 --> 01:37:26.560
<v Speaker 3>with those confessions were.</v>

01:37:26.560 --> 01:37:28.880
<v Speaker 3>I'm sure I'm going to meet most of them in heaven.</v>

01:37:28.880 --> 01:37:30.720
<v Speaker 3>This is not indicting those men.</v>

01:37:30.720 --> 01:37:35.680
<v Speaker 3>This is saying that the specific stipulation in writing that the Hebrew</v>

01:37:35.680 --> 01:37:40.240
<v Speaker 3>is sacrosanct and is holy and is breathed out by God, either</v>

01:37:40.240 --> 01:37:41.840
<v Speaker 3>that's true or it's false.</v>

01:37:41.840 --> 01:37:44.960
<v Speaker 3>And if that's true, then the New Testament is false.</v>

01:37:44.960 --> 01:37:48.960
<v Speaker 3>And if that's false, then your confession is false, and you're gonna</v>

01:37:48.960 --> 01:37:51.280
<v Speaker 3>have to figure out what to do with that.</v>

01:37:51.280 --> 01:37:56.000
<v Speaker 3>One specific example of something that evaporates theologically when you adopt the</v>

01:37:56.000 --> 01:38:00.880
<v Speaker 3>Septuagint and you reject the rabbinic text, covenant theology vanishes.</v>

01:38:00.880 --> 01:38:03.920
<v Speaker 3>As a Lutheran, that doesn't even mean anything to me.</v>

01:38:03.920 --> 01:38:06.320
<v Speaker 3>To many of you, that is going to be a crisis of</v>

01:38:06.320 --> 01:38:10.320
<v Speaker 3>conscience, which is why we've been very careful to lay out as</v>

01:38:10.320 --> 01:38:13.920
<v Speaker 3>we went through just how important it is to look at Jesus</v>

01:38:13.920 --> 01:38:17.360
<v Speaker 3>and the apostle and the early church as our guide for this,</v>

01:38:17.360 --> 01:38:20.560
<v Speaker 3>because by the time you're looking to the Reformation, when you're looking</v>

01:38:20.560 --> 01:38:25.200
<v Speaker 3>at the 16th century, you're over a thousand years into rabbinic influence.</v>

01:38:25.200 --> 01:38:29.200
<v Speaker 3>The decisions that were made were not made in view of rejecting</v>

01:38:29.200 --> 01:38:30.560
<v Speaker 3>the Septuagint.</v>

01:38:30.560 --> 01:38:33.200
<v Speaker 3>They were made in view of the assumption that the Hebrew was</v>

01:38:33.200 --> 01:38:36.880
<v Speaker 3>authentic. That's why your confession says that.</v>

01:38:36.880 --> 01:38:40.640
<v Speaker 3>If it turns out that that assumption was wrong, then anything downstream</v>

01:38:40.640 --> 01:38:42.160
<v Speaker 3>from that assumption is wrong.</v>

01:38:42.400 --> 01:38:44.320
<v Speaker 3>genealogy of ideas.</v>

01:38:44.320 --> 01:38:48.080
<v Speaker 3>We began there in Stone Choir for this very reason.</v>

01:38:48.080 --> 01:38:52.720
<v Speaker 3>The notion of a pure spring and a polluted stream is absolutely</v>

01:38:52.720 --> 01:38:56.800
<v Speaker 3>true. The problem that the church faces is that the rabbinic text</v>

01:38:57.440 --> 01:38:59.440
<v Speaker 3>is the polluted stream.</v>

01:38:59.440 --> 01:39:05.280
<v Speaker 3>The pure spring of scripture is Greek exclusively.</v>

01:39:05.280 --> 01:39:09.280
<v Speaker 3>I want to end with a quote that describes Josias in the</v>

01:39:09.280 --> 01:39:11.840
<v Speaker 3>moment of his repentance.</v>

01:39:11.840 --> 01:39:14.160
<v Speaker 3>And it happened when the king heard the word of the book</v>

01:39:14.160 --> 01:39:16.720
<v Speaker 3>of the law that he tore his own clothes, and the king</v>

01:39:16.720 --> 01:39:20.080
<v Speaker 3>commanded Calcius the priest and his sons and the secretary and the</v>

01:39:20.080 --> 01:39:23.840
<v Speaker 3>king's slave, saying, Go, seek out the Lord for me and for</v>

01:39:23.840 --> 01:39:26.320
<v Speaker 3>all the people, and for all of Udea.</v>

01:39:26.320 --> 01:39:30.000
<v Speaker 3>Concerning the words of this book that was found, for great is</v>

01:39:30.000 --> 01:39:33.280
<v Speaker 3>the wrath of the Lord is blazed out against us, because our</v>

01:39:33.280 --> 01:39:36.960
<v Speaker 3>fathers did not obey the words of this book, do according to</v>

01:39:36.960 --> 01:39:39.280
<v Speaker 3>all that is written against us.</v>

01:39:39.280 --> 01:39:41.680
<v Speaker 3>Every word of this applies to us today.</v>

01:39:41.680 --> 01:39:44.320
<v Speaker 3>Every word of this applies to the church.</v>

01:39:44.320 --> 01:39:48.320
<v Speaker 3>Our fathers did not obey the words in this book.</v>

01:39:48.320 --> 01:39:52.480
<v Speaker 3>What is written in the book of Scripture in Greek is written</v>

01:39:52.480 --> 01:39:53.440
<v Speaker 3>against us.</v>

01:39:53.440 --> 01:39:55.520
<v Speaker 3>It is not a book about Jews.</v>

01:39:55.520 --> 01:39:58.720
<v Speaker 3>It is a book about the elect, and how awful and idiotic</v>

01:39:59.280 --> 01:40:03.200
<v Speaker 3>and retarded we are, and how hard God has to fight to</v>

01:40:03.200 --> 01:40:06.720
<v Speaker 3>keep us out of hell against every effort that we make at</v>

01:40:06.720 --> 01:40:09.360
<v Speaker 3>all times and all places to try to disobey him.</v>

01:40:09.360 --> 01:40:11.280
<v Speaker 3>Just by the littlest measure.</v>

01:40:11.280 --> 01:40:13.280
<v Speaker 3>We're not going whole hog.</v>

01:40:13.280 --> 01:40:15.040
<v Speaker 3>We're not doing the reprobate thing.</v>

01:40:15.040 --> 01:40:16.080
<v Speaker 3>We're doing the easy thing.</v>

01:40:16.080 --> 01:40:17.840
<v Speaker 3>We're believing God in the wrong way.</v>

01:40:17.840 --> 01:40:20.960
<v Speaker 3>We're believing God in a way that is gonna make the world</v>

01:40:20.960 --> 01:40:25.760
<v Speaker 3>happy. May God give us the strength to navigate what is before</v>

01:40:25.760 --> 01:40:29.280
<v Speaker 3>us. May he give us the wisdom, and may we forgive us</v>

01:40:29.280 --> 01:40:31.040
<v Speaker 3>for everything that we've done.</v>

01:40:31.040 --> 01:40:36.320
<v Speaker 3>Amen.</v>

01:40:36.960 --> 01:40:42.880
<v Speaker 2>Wo just gave you the overview by way of reminder, the roadmap,</v>

01:40:42.880 --> 01:40:49.120
<v Speaker 2>where we've been, what we've gone over, part of the argument for</v>

01:40:49.440 --> 01:40:52.240
<v Speaker 2>what we need to do next, what we should have done in</v>

01:40:52.240 --> 01:40:55.120
<v Speaker 2>centuries past.</v>

01:40:55.120 --> 01:40:59.840
<v Speaker 2>And now I'm going to give you the closing argument for the</v>

01:40:59.840 --> 01:41:06.000
<v Speaker 2>Septuagint. For the Septuagint over and against the rabbinic text.</v>

01:41:06.000 --> 01:41:08.400
<v Speaker 2>I'm going to divide it up into six points.</v>

01:41:08.400 --> 01:41:11.200
<v Speaker 2>I leave it as an exercise to the listener or the reader,</v>

01:41:11.200 --> 01:41:16.800
<v Speaker 2>if you prefer the transcripts, to decide how to number those points.</v>

01:41:16.800 --> 01:41:20.400
<v Speaker 2>But I'm not going to go over the history again.</v>

01:41:20.400 --> 01:41:22.640
<v Speaker 2>We're not going to be cumulative as it were.</v>

01:41:22.640 --> 01:41:25.600
<v Speaker 2>I'm not going to belabor the point.</v>

01:41:25.600 --> 01:41:28.800
<v Speaker 2>I am going to give you the points that you need in</v>

01:41:28.800 --> 01:41:33.600
<v Speaker 2>order In order to understand the argument, in order to be secure</v>

01:41:33.920 --> 01:41:38.880
<v Speaker 2>in knowing the Septuagint is the word of God, and the so-called</v>

01:41:38.880 --> 01:41:42.880
<v Speaker 2>Hebrew is not, and here is why.</v>

01:41:42.880 --> 01:41:45.360
<v Speaker 2>The first point, and I will number this one for you so</v>

01:41:45.360 --> 01:41:47.280
<v Speaker 2>that you know that I'm starting.</v>

01:41:47.280 --> 01:41:50.240
<v Speaker 2>The first point, very straightforward.</v>

01:41:50.240 --> 01:41:54.160
<v Speaker 2>Which one did God preserve?</v>

01:41:54.160 --> 01:41:56.400
<v Speaker 2>God did not preserve the Hebrew.</v>

01:41:56.400 --> 01:42:01.840
<v Speaker 2>As Woe said, the Hebrew was entirely lost by the time of</v>

01:42:01.840 --> 01:42:08.560
<v Speaker 2>Christ. All that was preserved was snippets of it in liturgical use.</v>

01:42:08.800 --> 01:42:12.320
<v Speaker 2>The same as you may find in our courts of law today</v>

01:42:12.480 --> 01:42:14.000
<v Speaker 2>with regard to Latin.</v>

01:42:14.000 --> 01:42:18.080
<v Speaker 2>Let me tell you as an attorney, very few attorneys know Latin.</v>

01:42:18.080 --> 01:42:21.840
<v Speaker 2>We still use it all the time, because we have these little</v>

01:42:21.840 --> 01:42:24.480
<v Speaker 2>set phrases that have been preserved.</v>

01:42:24.480 --> 01:42:28.640
<v Speaker 2>The same thing was true of Hebrew in the time of Christ.</v>

01:42:28.640 --> 01:42:34.320
<v Speaker 2>The language was gone, the texts were gone, these little snippets survived.</v>

01:42:34.320 --> 01:42:39.680
<v Speaker 2>Aramaic was still around, but often needed translated into Greek.</v>

01:42:39.680 --> 01:42:41.520
<v Speaker 2>What was preserved?</v>

01:42:41.520 --> 01:42:46.240
<v Speaker 2>The Greek was preserved, because God had caused his word to be</v>

01:42:46.240 --> 01:42:49.360
<v Speaker 2>translated into the Greek, and then disseminated into the</v>

01:42:50.400 --> 01:42:54.000
<v Speaker 2>Greek. The Jews had already spread the Greek scriptures everywhere.</v>

01:42:54.000 --> 01:42:56.960
<v Speaker 2>God managed to get them to do something good because they didn't</v>

01:42:56.880 --> 01:42:59.680
<v Speaker 2>realize they were doing something good at the time.</v>

01:42:59.680 --> 01:43:04.320
<v Speaker 2>And so all of these far flung synagogues had copies of the</v>

01:43:04.320 --> 01:43:06.080
<v Speaker 2>Scriptures in Greek.</v>

01:43:06.080 --> 01:43:07.600
<v Speaker 2>That's what they were using.</v>

01:43:07.600 --> 01:43:11.840
<v Speaker 2>That's why these men, all over the Roman world, had access to</v>

01:43:11.840 --> 01:43:16.880
<v Speaker 2>the Scriptures, because they were present in the synagogues in Greek.</v>

01:43:16.880 --> 01:43:20.560
<v Speaker 2>The Jews did something good because God can use whatever tool he</v>

01:43:20.560 --> 01:43:23.360
<v Speaker 2>has to hand to do whatever he pleases.</v>

01:43:23.360 --> 01:43:27.120
<v Speaker 2>God can draw straight lines with crooked sticks.</v>

01:43:27.120 --> 01:43:31.760
<v Speaker 2>And And so fulfilling God's promises, his many promises to preserve his</v>

01:43:32.080 --> 01:43:37.120
<v Speaker 2>word, he translated it, he caused it to be translated into Greek,</v>

01:43:37.120 --> 01:43:40.080
<v Speaker 2>because Greek is the language of the empire.</v>

01:43:40.080 --> 01:43:43.200
<v Speaker 2>Greek is the language that would spread the word of God.</v>

01:43:43.200 --> 01:43:47.200
<v Speaker 2>Greek is a European language, incidentally, you should hearken back to the</v>

01:43:47.200 --> 01:43:48.640
<v Speaker 2>promises of Noah.</v>

01:43:48.640 --> 01:43:52.400
<v Speaker 2>This is God fulfilling his promise to the sons of Japheth that</v>

01:43:52.400 --> 01:43:54.960
<v Speaker 2>they would dwell in the tents of Shem, that we would become</v>

01:43:54.960 --> 01:43:57.840
<v Speaker 2>Christendom. That is what the Greek is.</v>

01:43:57.840 --> 01:44:03.520
<v Speaker 2>God fulfills his promises, not a single word falls to the ground.</v>

01:44:03.520 --> 01:44:08.480
<v Speaker 2>One of the MOTOS of the Reformation, with which many of you</v>

01:44:08.480 --> 01:44:11.120
<v Speaker 2>are undoubtedly familiar, even if you don't know the Latin, you'll know</v>

01:44:11.120 --> 01:44:13.840
<v Speaker 2>the initialism V DMA</v>

01:44:14.800 --> 01:44:20.800
<v Speaker 2>Verbum Domini Manet in Eiternum The Word of the Lord endures in</v>

01:44:20.800 --> 01:44:25.760
<v Speaker 2>eternity or into eternity you can translate that either way.</v>

01:44:25.760 --> 01:44:28.160
<v Speaker 2>While I was sitting here I happened to look it up in</v>

01:44:28.160 --> 01:44:30.800
<v Speaker 2>the Hebrew and so this is a sort of bonus example</v>

01:44:32.640 --> 01:44:39.920
<v Speaker 2>in a literal translation of the Hebrew from the Biblia Hebraicotencia,</v>

01:44:39.920 --> 01:44:40.560
<v Speaker 2>it has</v>

01:44:42.160 --> 01:44:46.720
<v Speaker 2>a word of our God riseth forever.</v>

01:44:46.720 --> 01:44:49.200
<v Speaker 2>Well that's not the same even as the motto that we used</v>

01:44:49.200 --> 01:44:50.720
<v Speaker 2>in the Reformation.</v>

01:44:50.720 --> 01:44:54.000
<v Speaker 2>It happens to be that we were relying on the Septuagint all</v>

01:44:54.000 --> 01:44:57.360
<v Speaker 2>along, with our own motto, and didn't even know it.</v>

01:44:57.360 --> 01:45:00.560
<v Speaker 2>Because what do we have in the text of the Septuagint?</v>

01:45:00.560 --> 01:45:04.480
<v Speaker 2>The word of our God remains forever.</v>

01:45:04.480 --> 01:45:06.320
<v Speaker 2>It's the same thing.</v>

01:45:06.320 --> 01:45:09.440
<v Speaker 2>We've been relying on the Septuagint with even that all along, when</v>

01:45:09.440 --> 01:45:12.640
<v Speaker 2>we're speaking about the word of the Lord, enduring, we're quoting the</v>

01:45:12.640 --> 01:45:17.520
<v Speaker 2>Septuagint. Even men who thought they were relying on the Hebrew weren't</v>

01:45:17.440 --> 01:45:21.440
<v Speaker 2>doing it at the very moment they were saying God preserves his</v>

01:45:21.520 --> 01:45:22.960
<v Speaker 2>word for all time.</v>

01:45:24.720 --> 01:45:27.520
<v Speaker 2>And that ties into what I want to make as my next</v>

01:45:27.520 --> 01:45:32.080
<v Speaker 2>point. I pointed this out as we were going through the examples</v>

01:45:32.080 --> 01:45:35.120
<v Speaker 2>in this episode, but I want to highlight it again.</v>

01:45:35.120 --> 01:45:38.560
<v Speaker 2>I was almost tempted to simply collect all the examples, which is</v>

01:45:38.560 --> 01:45:41.600
<v Speaker 2>very easy because I have a copy of Strong's, or you can</v>

01:45:41.600 --> 01:45:45.680
<v Speaker 2>use any concordance for this, all of the instances of Gigrapti in</v>

01:45:45.680 --> 01:45:46.560
<v Speaker 2>the Greek.</v>

01:45:46.560 --> 01:45:48.880
<v Speaker 2>It is written.</v>

01:45:48.880 --> 01:45:54.720
<v Speaker 2>It appears sixty to seventy times in the New Testament.</v>

01:45:54.720 --> 01:45:58.400
<v Speaker 2>That's a lot of times where the New Testament authors are saying,</v>

01:45:58.400 --> 01:45:59.520
<v Speaker 2>It is written.</v>

01:45:59.520 --> 01:46:01.120
<v Speaker 2>And remember my first point.</v>

01:46:01.120 --> 01:46:02.960
<v Speaker 2>What did they not have written?</v>

01:46:03.280 --> 01:46:04.960
<v Speaker 2>They didn't have the Hebrew.</v>

01:46:04.960 --> 01:46:06.560
<v Speaker 2>So they are saying, it is written.</v>

01:46:06.560 --> 01:46:08.160
<v Speaker 2>Well, what is written?</v>

01:46:08.160 --> 01:46:11.760
<v Speaker 2>The only thing they can possibly mean is the Greek.</v>

01:46:11.760 --> 01:46:14.560
<v Speaker 2>And so every single time when you are reading the New Testament</v>

01:46:14.640 --> 01:46:18.000
<v Speaker 2>and you see, it is written, it is written, it is written,</v>

01:46:18.000 --> 01:46:19.280
<v Speaker 2>it is written.</v>

01:46:19.280 --> 01:46:22.880
<v Speaker 2>They are talking about the Greek, because that is the only written</v>

01:46:22.880 --> 01:46:26.160
<v Speaker 2>copy of Scripture to which they had access.</v>

01:46:26.160 --> 01:46:30.080
<v Speaker 2>Because the Hebrew foreloga, which we admit existed at some time in</v>

01:46:30.080 --> 01:46:32.960
<v Speaker 2>the distant past, of course it existed.</v>

01:46:32.960 --> 01:46:35.920
<v Speaker 2>The Septuagint is based on that.</v>

01:46:35.920 --> 01:46:40.400
<v Speaker 2>God used that to preserve his word until he created the Septuagint.</v>

01:46:40.400 --> 01:46:44.160
<v Speaker 2>That existed, it is gone, it is lost forever along with the</v>

01:46:44.160 --> 01:46:47.120
<v Speaker 2>language needed to interpret it, to read it.</v>

01:46:47.120 --> 01:46:50.000
<v Speaker 2>In fact, it is interpret more in that case, because of things</v>

01:46:50.000 --> 01:46:53.040
<v Speaker 2>we've already pointed out about the Hebrew language, and how it is</v>

01:46:53.040 --> 01:46:56.000
<v Speaker 2>deficient, without an oral tradition.</v>

01:46:56.000 --> 01:47:00.000
<v Speaker 2>And so when they say it is written, they can only ever</v>

01:47:00.000 --> 01:47:01.680
<v Speaker 2>mean the Greek.</v>

01:47:01.680 --> 01:47:04.720
<v Speaker 2>And so every single time you see that, when you are reading</v>

01:47:04.720 --> 01:47:09.680
<v Speaker 2>scripture, recognize, they are telling you, the Septuagint is my Bible.</v>

01:47:09.680 --> 01:47:11.600
<v Speaker 2>The Septuagint is the Word of God.</v>

01:47:11.600 --> 01:47:14.000
<v Speaker 2>The Septuagint should be your Bible.</v>

01:47:14.000 --> 01:47:17.360
<v Speaker 2>Because it is written.</v>

01:47:17.360 --> 01:47:20.400
<v Speaker 2>The next point is from Matthew 5.</v>

01:47:20.400 --> 01:47:22.480
<v Speaker 2>You should all expect this one.</v>

01:47:22.480 --> 01:47:24.800
<v Speaker 2>This is one we should all have memorized.</v>

01:47:24.800 --> 01:47:28.480
<v Speaker 2>For truly I say to you, until heaven and earth pass away,</v>

01:47:28.480 --> 01:47:32.000
<v Speaker 2>not an iota, not a dot will pass from the law, until</v>

01:47:32.000 --> 01:47:34.080
<v Speaker 2>all is accomplished.</v>

01:47:34.080 --> 01:47:38.160
<v Speaker 2>I actually want to give both the King James and the ESV</v>

01:47:38.160 --> 01:47:41.520
<v Speaker 2>credit here, because they both translate this one pretty well.</v>

01:47:41.520 --> 01:47:44.800
<v Speaker 2>Of course, from the King James, we get the one with which</v>

01:47:44.800 --> 01:47:47.440
<v Speaker 2>we are all familiar, jot or Tittle.</v>

01:47:47.440 --> 01:47:50.800
<v Speaker 2>Even if we are no longer particularly familiar with the words jot</v>

01:47:51.200 --> 01:47:53.200
<v Speaker 2>and tittle.</v>

01:47:53.200 --> 01:47:57.680
<v Speaker 2>Jot, incidentally, is basically iota, just anglicized.</v>

01:47:57.680 --> 01:48:00.480
<v Speaker 2>And so you have that i transforming into a j.</v>

01:48:00.560 --> 01:48:01.920
<v Speaker 2>This happens a lot.</v>

01:48:02.000 --> 01:48:06.240
<v Speaker 2>Tittle just comes from titulus Latin, which is a small stroke.</v>

01:48:06.240 --> 01:48:10.240
<v Speaker 2>In other words, it's the line on the iota, or sometimes it</v>

01:48:10.240 --> 01:48:13.600
<v Speaker 2>can be the line versus the dot, which is why the ESV</v>

01:48:13.600 --> 01:48:15.920
<v Speaker 2>incidentally uses dot.</v>

01:48:15.920 --> 01:48:18.720
<v Speaker 2>But the word there in the Greek, if you want to translate</v>

01:48:18.720 --> 01:48:21.360
<v Speaker 2>it more literally, is serif.</v>

01:48:21.360 --> 01:48:23.920
<v Speaker 2>The word iota of course is iota.</v>

01:48:23.920 --> 01:48:25.280
<v Speaker 2>Well what is iota?</v>

01:48:25.520 --> 01:48:29.600
<v Speaker 2>Iota is the smallest letter of the Greek alphabet.</v>

01:48:29.600 --> 01:48:32.320
<v Speaker 2>It is equivalent to our I.</v>

01:48:32.320 --> 01:48:35.840
<v Speaker 2>Historically written without the dot, so it's literally just the line, and</v>

01:48:35.840 --> 01:48:37.920
<v Speaker 2>then you have the dot, the serif.</v>

01:48:37.920 --> 01:48:42.880
<v Speaker 2>Because in some forms of Greek, granted, in ancient Greek they didn't</v>

01:48:42.800 --> 01:48:45.280
<v Speaker 2>really use the diacritics that was developed later.</v>

01:48:45.280 --> 01:48:48.000
<v Speaker 2>I don't want to get into that as sort of a tangent.</v>

01:48:48.000 --> 01:48:51.520
<v Speaker 2>But this term here for seraph can also refer to the diacritics</v>

01:48:51.520 --> 01:48:56.560
<v Speaker 2>that are used somewhat during this time and definitely in modern Greek</v>

01:48:56.640 --> 01:49:00.240
<v Speaker 2>and slightly before modern Greek because they've simplified things.</v>

01:49:00.240 --> 01:49:01.920
<v Speaker 2>But what is a serif?</v>

01:49:01.920 --> 01:49:05.600
<v Speaker 2>Well, a serif is just a line.</v>

01:49:05.600 --> 01:49:09.360
<v Speaker 2>It's a line that is essentially embellishing a letter.</v>

01:49:09.360 --> 01:49:11.680
<v Speaker 2>This is something that is dear to both Wo and me.</v>

01:49:11.680 --> 01:49:14.960
<v Speaker 2>Incidentally, I'm looking at my desk here, and basically everything on my</v>

01:49:14.960 --> 01:49:20.240
<v Speaker 2>desk is in San's serif fonts, unfortunately, but the serif is that</v>

01:49:20.240 --> 01:49:24.320
<v Speaker 2>little ornamentation on the letter, and so it's saying that nothing will</v>

01:49:24.320 --> 01:49:26.320
<v Speaker 2>pass away from the law.</v>

01:49:26.320 --> 01:49:29.200
<v Speaker 2>Christ is being as clear as he can possibly be Possibly be</v>

01:49:29.200 --> 01:49:33.200
<v Speaker 2>that not the smallest part of anything will pass away.</v>

01:49:33.200 --> 01:49:36.080
<v Speaker 2>And of course you should remember verse seventeen as well when you</v>

01:49:36.080 --> 01:49:38.080
<v Speaker 2>think of verse eighteen.</v>

01:49:38.080 --> 01:49:41.120
<v Speaker 2>Do not think that I have come to abolish the law or</v>

01:49:41.120 --> 01:49:42.240
<v Speaker 2>the prophets.</v>

01:49:42.240 --> 01:49:44.800
<v Speaker 2>I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them.</v>

01:49:44.800 --> 01:49:47.280
<v Speaker 2>He is referencing the entire Old Testament.</v>

01:49:47.280 --> 01:49:49.280
<v Speaker 2>He's not saying the Pentateuch.</v>

01:49:49.280 --> 01:49:51.440
<v Speaker 2>He's not saying just the first five books.</v>

01:49:51.440 --> 01:49:56.160
<v Speaker 2>He is saying the entirety of the Old Testament.</v>

01:49:56.160 --> 01:49:57.760
<v Speaker 2>Nothing will pass away.</v>

01:49:58.160 --> 01:50:00.000
<v Speaker 2>And what does he use there?</v>

01:50:00.000 --> 01:50:02.160
<v Speaker 2>He uses Greek.</v>

01:50:02.160 --> 01:50:07.120
<v Speaker 2>Undoubtedly, Christ knew the words in Hebrew because Christ is God, he</v>

01:50:07.120 --> 01:50:08.080
<v Speaker 2>knows all things.</v>

01:50:08.080 --> 01:50:11.680
<v Speaker 2>We're not going to get into according to the humanity versus according</v>

01:50:11.680 --> 01:50:14.800
<v Speaker 2>to the divinity and the state of humiliation.</v>

01:50:14.800 --> 01:50:17.840
<v Speaker 2>Even during his earthly ministry in the state of humiliation he knows</v>

01:50:17.840 --> 01:50:18.800
<v Speaker 2>all things.</v>

01:50:18.800 --> 01:50:21.040
<v Speaker 2>So could he have used Hebrew there if he wanted to?</v>

01:50:21.040 --> 01:50:22.240
<v Speaker 2>And then explained it.</v>

01:50:22.240 --> 01:50:24.880
<v Speaker 2>Absolutely. Did he do so?</v>

01:50:24.880 --> 01:50:26.240
<v Speaker 2>Absolutely not.</v>

01:50:26.240 --> 01:50:30.080
<v Speaker 2>He uses the smallest Greek letter and the smallest stroke of a</v>

01:50:30.080 --> 01:50:31.200
<v Speaker 2>Greek letter.</v>

01:50:31.200 --> 01:50:33.440
<v Speaker 2>The Iota and the Seraph.</v>

01:50:33.440 --> 01:50:37.920
<v Speaker 2>And so when Christ says that nothing will pass away, he references</v>

01:50:37.920 --> 01:50:40.080
<v Speaker 2>the Greek explicitly.</v>

01:50:40.080 --> 01:50:44.080
<v Speaker 2>He is saying that nothing will pass away from the scriptures which</v>

01:50:44.080 --> 01:50:45.440
<v Speaker 2>are in Greek.</v>

01:50:45.440 --> 01:50:49.840
<v Speaker 2>What is verse nineteen, which is relevant to day, to morrow, and</v>

01:50:49.840 --> 01:50:52.480
<v Speaker 2>in the near future?</v>

01:50:52.480 --> 01:50:58.240
<v Speaker 2>Therefore, whoever relaxes one of the least of these commandments, and teaches</v>

01:50:58.240 --> 01:51:01.600
<v Speaker 2>others to do the same will be called least in the kingdom</v>

01:51:01.600 --> 01:51:05.600
<v Speaker 2>of heaven, but whoever does them and teaches them will be called</v>

01:51:05.600 --> 01:51:10.560
<v Speaker 2>great in the kingdom of heaven.</v>

01:51:10.560 --> 01:51:14.800
<v Speaker 2>We should be concerned about what has been done to scripture.</v>

01:51:14.800 --> 01:51:18.880
<v Speaker 2>Because Christ here, God says that nothing will pass away, and then</v>

01:51:19.200 --> 01:51:21.760
<v Speaker 2>cursed is the one.</v>

01:51:21.760 --> 01:51:24.560
<v Speaker 2>Granted, the language of Revelation is stronger, and I'll get to that</v>

01:51:24.560 --> 01:51:25.360
<v Speaker 2>in a minute here, but</v>

01:51:26.720 --> 01:51:29.760
<v Speaker 2>even if you are a Christian, you are going to be least</v>

01:51:29.840 --> 01:51:32.560
<v Speaker 2>in the kingdom of heaven if you are relaxing and changing the</v>

01:51:32.560 --> 01:51:33.680
<v Speaker 2>Word of God.</v>

01:51:33.680 --> 01:51:37.040
<v Speaker 2>And that's assuming you remain Christian.</v>

01:51:37.040 --> 01:51:39.120
<v Speaker 2>That's what the rabbis did.</v>

01:51:39.120 --> 01:51:42.400
<v Speaker 2>That's what we have been doing by using the text that they</v>

01:51:42.400 --> 01:51:44.160
<v Speaker 2>gave us.</v>

01:51:44.160 --> 01:51:47.440
<v Speaker 2>And then verse twenty for I tell you, unless your righteousness exceeds</v>

01:51:47.440 --> 01:51:50.880
<v Speaker 2>that of the scribes and Pharisees, you will never enter the kingdom</v>

01:51:50.880 --> 01:51:51.840
<v Speaker 2>of heaven.</v>

01:51:51.840 --> 01:51:54.000
<v Speaker 2>Now of course part of that is the gospel because what Christ</v>

01:51:54.000 --> 01:51:57.280
<v Speaker 2>is saying is, you can't do this, it's impossible.</v>

01:51:57.280 --> 01:51:58.880
<v Speaker 2>You have to be perfect.</v>

01:51:58.880 --> 01:52:01.360
<v Speaker 2>And you can only be perfect if you're in Christ.</v>

01:52:01.360 --> 01:52:03.440
<v Speaker 2>Apart from me, you can do nothing.</v>

01:52:03.440 --> 01:52:07.760
<v Speaker 2>These are verses that all of you should have memorized.</v>

01:52:07.760 --> 01:52:12.960
<v Speaker 2>But of course, perhaps the most relevant verse in this area is</v>

01:52:13.120 --> 01:52:16.240
<v Speaker 2>Revelation 2218.</v>

01:52:16.240 --> 01:52:19.520
<v Speaker 2>This is the one that should come to mind every time the</v>

01:52:19.520 --> 01:52:24.080
<v Speaker 2>issue of the Septuagint versus the so called Hebrew comes up.</v>

01:52:24.080 --> 01:52:28.240
<v Speaker 2>I warn everyone who hears the words of the prophecy of this</v>

01:52:28.240 --> 01:52:32.880
<v Speaker 2>book, if anyone adds to them, God will add to him the</v>

01:52:32.880 --> 01:52:35.520
<v Speaker 2>plagues described in this book.</v>

01:52:35.520 --> 01:52:38.400
<v Speaker 2>And if any one takes away from the words of the book</v>

01:52:38.400 --> 01:52:42.320
<v Speaker 2>of this prophecy, God will take away his share in the tree</v>

01:52:42.320 --> 01:52:45.760
<v Speaker 2>of life and in the holy city, which are described in this</v>

01:52:45.760 --> 01:52:52.960
<v Speaker 2>book. God threatens those who would tamper with his word, with</v>

01:52:52.960 --> 01:52:58.480
<v Speaker 2>plagues, diseases, curses, and hellfire.</v>

01:52:58.480 --> 01:53:03.040
<v Speaker 2>That should terrify anyone who thinks that he can play games with</v>

01:53:03.040 --> 01:53:06.000
<v Speaker 2>God's word, who thinks he can just change things because he feels</v>

01:53:06.000 --> 01:53:08.560
<v Speaker 2>like it, or he doesn't like how this is worded or that</v>

01:53:08.560 --> 01:53:12.000
<v Speaker 2>is said, or maybe it would align better, or I can harmonize</v>

01:53:12.000 --> 01:53:15.680
<v Speaker 2>that no, you do not get to play games with God's word,</v>

01:53:15.680 --> 01:53:19.520
<v Speaker 2>and God threatens to damn you forever if you do it.</v>

01:53:19.520 --> 01:53:22.720
<v Speaker 2>And yet down through the centuries, apparently men have just ignored this</v>

01:53:22.720 --> 01:53:27.520
<v Speaker 2>warning. And for those who aren't clear on the point, John is</v>

01:53:27.520 --> 01:53:28.640
<v Speaker 2>a prophet.</v>

01:53:28.640 --> 01:53:31.600
<v Speaker 2>John is the last alive.</v>

01:53:31.600 --> 01:53:36.160
<v Speaker 2>John lives to basically a hundred years old.</v>

01:53:36.160 --> 01:53:40.000
<v Speaker 2>He is writing and clicking out the New Testament and he knows</v>

01:53:40.000 --> 01:53:44.160
<v Speaker 2>it. He knows that he is the last author of Scripture.</v>

01:53:44.160 --> 01:53:47.360
<v Speaker 2>So this applies not just to the Book of Revelation, this applies</v>

01:53:47.360 --> 01:53:50.800
<v Speaker 2>to the Book of God, which we call the Bible.</v>

01:53:50.800 --> 01:53:55.840
<v Speaker 2>This applies to the Old Testament, equally and the New Testament.</v>

01:53:55.840 --> 01:54:00.640
<v Speaker 2>If you add or subtract anything, God threatens to curse you, in</v>

01:54:00.640 --> 01:54:03.360
<v Speaker 2>the strongest of terms.</v>

01:54:03.360 --> 01:54:06.240
<v Speaker 2>And yet what did the rabbis do to Scripture?</v>

01:54:06.240 --> 01:54:07.760
<v Speaker 2>What have we proved?</v>

01:54:07.760 --> 01:54:11.120
<v Speaker 2>In particular the two New Testament episodes, but also the Old Testament</v>

01:54:11.120 --> 01:54:12.800
<v Speaker 2>episodes and all along?</v>

01:54:12.800 --> 01:54:14.800
<v Speaker 2>They edited Scripture.</v>

01:54:14.800 --> 01:54:20.240
<v Speaker 2>They removed things, they added things, particularly they removed prophecies that concerned</v>

01:54:20.240 --> 01:54:24.240
<v Speaker 2>the Christ, promises to the nations, all the sorts of things that</v>

01:54:24.240 --> 01:54:26.080
<v Speaker 2>you would expect them to remove.</v>

01:54:26.080 --> 01:54:29.520
<v Speaker 2>And they added things where it benefited the Jews.</v>

01:54:29.520 --> 01:54:30.640
<v Speaker 2>Because that was their goal.</v>

01:54:30.640 --> 01:54:32.080
<v Speaker 2>They don't care about God.</v>

01:54:32.080 --> 01:54:36.080
<v Speaker 2>If they cared about God, they would preserve his word exactly as</v>

01:54:36.080 --> 01:54:37.280
<v Speaker 2>he gave it to them.</v>

01:54:37.280 --> 01:54:39.040
<v Speaker 2>They didn't do that.</v>

01:54:39.040 --> 01:54:42.320
<v Speaker 2>And part of the reason that they didn't do that is because</v>

01:54:42.320 --> 01:54:45.200
<v Speaker 2>they were wicked and faithless and God cursed them and took away</v>

01:54:45.200 --> 01:54:49.920
<v Speaker 2>their language, and their nation, took everything from them.</v>

01:54:49.920 --> 01:54:52.960
<v Speaker 2>And don't think that God won't do the same to those to</v>

01:54:52.960 --> 01:54:54.880
<v Speaker 2>day who do not obey Him.</v>

01:54:54.880 --> 01:54:58.160
<v Speaker 2>Because God is the same yesterday, to day and to morrow.</v>

01:54:58.160 --> 01:55:02.160
<v Speaker 2>Those who are not faithful to God will always be cursed.</v>

01:55:02.160 --> 01:55:04.880
<v Speaker 2>And God is not slow as men count slowness.</v>

01:55:04.880 --> 01:55:06.960
<v Speaker 2>God is not lax.</v>

01:55:06.800 --> 01:55:13.280
<v Speaker 2>God simply does things in Kairos, the perfect timing.</v>

01:55:13.280 --> 01:55:15.840
<v Speaker 2>And so Josias was right.</v>

01:55:15.840 --> 01:55:19.760
<v Speaker 2>Repent. Dust and sack cloth to rip his clothing, to rend his</v>

01:55:19.760 --> 01:55:23.280
<v Speaker 2>garments. That is the correct response when you see the sort of</v>

01:55:23.280 --> 01:55:24.880
<v Speaker 2>wickedness that had happened.</v>

01:55:24.880 --> 01:55:28.160
<v Speaker 2>And the same thing happened to us.</v>

01:55:28.160 --> 01:55:31.200
<v Speaker 2>And perhaps the most ridiculous part is that it's almost an exact</v>

01:55:31.600 --> 01:55:34.240
<v Speaker 2>equivalent. They lost it in a wall.</v>

01:55:34.240 --> 01:55:38.160
<v Speaker 2>We have the Codex Vaticanos sitting in the Vatican Library.</v>

01:55:38.160 --> 01:55:41.520
<v Speaker 2>Granted, good luck getting access to the high resolution scans because the</v>

01:55:41.520 --> 01:55:46.400
<v Speaker 2>Vatican has decided to copyright and watermark them, which which is unbelievably</v>

01:55:46.400 --> 01:55:47.440
<v Speaker 2>abominable</v>

01:55:48.320 --> 01:55:49.600
<v Speaker 2>but it still exists.</v>

01:55:49.600 --> 01:55:53.040
<v Speaker 2>We have the physical copy of the Septuagint still.</v>

01:55:53.040 --> 01:55:55.520
<v Speaker 2>We have the Word of God preserved in the Greek.</v>

01:55:55.520 --> 01:55:59.280
<v Speaker 2>Thankfully, we've preserved it better than hiding it in a wall.</v>

01:55:59.760 --> 01:56:03.280
<v Speaker 2>But storing it down in the basement, in the sub-basement of the</v>

01:56:03.280 --> 01:56:07.120
<v Speaker 2>Vatican, is not that much better.</v>

01:56:07.120 --> 01:56:12.640
<v Speaker 2>Thankfully, today we have access because we have actual copies, facsimiles, of</v>

01:56:12.640 --> 01:56:13.280
<v Speaker 2>this thing.</v>

01:56:13.520 --> 01:56:15.920
<v Speaker 2>I have it open in Lagos.</v>

01:56:15.920 --> 01:56:18.160
<v Speaker 2>It's not like it used to be where the copy lost in</v>

01:56:18.160 --> 01:56:21.200
<v Speaker 2>the wall was the copy, or one of only a handful that</v>

01:56:21.200 --> 01:56:25.040
<v Speaker 2>existed. So we're not in quite as bad of a situation, certainly</v>

01:56:25.040 --> 01:56:27.120
<v Speaker 2>as the Old Testament Israelites.</v>

01:56:27.120 --> 01:56:31.920
<v Speaker 2>But what we have done is almost equivalent, it's actually almost worse,</v>

01:56:31.920 --> 01:56:34.960
<v Speaker 2>because many of those living in that time had no access to</v>

01:56:34.960 --> 01:56:35.680
<v Speaker 2>this thing.</v>

01:56:35.680 --> 01:56:39.120
<v Speaker 2>We've had access to the Septuagint all along.</v>

01:56:39.120 --> 01:56:42.400
<v Speaker 2>Yes. You have always been able to buy a copy of it.</v>

01:56:42.400 --> 01:56:46.240
<v Speaker 2>We simply stopped using it as God's Word because we forgot that</v>

01:56:46.240 --> 01:56:47.200
<v Speaker 2>it was God's Word.</v>

01:56:47.200 --> 01:56:49.440
<v Speaker 2>We didn't just forget that a book existed.</v>

01:56:49.440 --> 01:56:53.440
<v Speaker 2>We forgot that this thing possibly sitting on your shelf is indeed</v>

01:56:53.440 --> 01:56:55.280
<v Speaker 2>the word of God.</v>

01:56:55.280 --> 01:56:58.720
<v Speaker 2>As a sort of aside, I want to use a phrase that</v>

01:56:58.720 --> 01:57:02.400
<v Speaker 2>has been used in higher criticism and elsewhere I know those of</v>

01:57:02.400 --> 01:57:05.200
<v Speaker 2>you who are familiar with that are going to recoil at that.</v>

01:57:05.200 --> 01:57:06.000
<v Speaker 2>That's fine.</v>

01:57:06.000 --> 01:57:08.240
<v Speaker 2>That's the right response.</v>

01:57:08.240 --> 01:57:12.400
<v Speaker 2>But it's useful here because it's appropriate and it's true.</v>

01:57:12.400 --> 01:57:15.520
<v Speaker 2>Some of those who try to critique the Bible will say that</v>

01:57:15.520 --> 01:57:21.920
<v Speaker 2>it contains God's Word, but not that it is God's Word.</v>

01:57:21.920 --> 01:57:26.000
<v Speaker 2>This is actually true with regard to the so called Hebrew.</v>

01:57:26.000 --> 01:57:30.800
<v Speaker 2>The Masoretic text contains God's Word in many places, because in many</v>

01:57:30.800 --> 01:57:34.880
<v Speaker 2>places it agrees with the Septuagint, but it is not God's word,</v>

01:57:34.880 --> 01:57:36.640
<v Speaker 2>because it has been altered.</v>

01:57:36.640 --> 01:57:40.000
<v Speaker 2>The Septuagint is God's Word.</v>

01:57:40.000 --> 01:57:42.960
<v Speaker 2>And so that statement that they try to use to denigrate God's</v>

01:57:42.960 --> 01:57:47.920
<v Speaker 2>word is absolutely true, but only with respect to the corrupted text</v>

01:57:47.920 --> 01:57:50.560
<v Speaker 2>given to us by the rabbis.</v>

01:57:50.560 --> 01:57:53.920
<v Speaker 2>And so thankfully God has preserved us because he preserved so much</v>

01:57:53.920 --> 01:57:57.520
<v Speaker 2>of his word despite the evil of the Jews, despite their wickedness,</v>

01:57:57.520 --> 01:58:02.880
<v Speaker 2>despite their deliberate corruption of his word, he preserved enough to preserve</v>

01:58:02.880 --> 01:58:06.400
<v Speaker 2>his church down through the centuries, so that we could go and</v>

01:58:06.400 --> 01:58:10.080
<v Speaker 2>rediscover his word hiding in a basement.</v>

01:58:10.080 --> 01:58:15.840
<v Speaker 2>And I want to reemphasize the curses that God speaks in many</v>

01:58:15.840 --> 01:58:20.240
<v Speaker 2>places with regard to those who speak on behalf of God when</v>

01:58:20.400 --> 01:58:24.400
<v Speaker 2>God is not spoken, or extend the word of God, or diminish</v>

01:58:24.400 --> 01:58:28.640
<v Speaker 2>the word of God, or add or subtract as Revelation says.</v>

01:58:28.640 --> 01:58:34.560
<v Speaker 2>Those curses should absolutely terrify everyone.</v>

01:58:34.560 --> 01:58:38.160
<v Speaker 2>Whatever God's Word says is what God's Word says.</v>

01:58:38.160 --> 01:58:39.840
<v Speaker 2>We don't get to change it.</v>

01:58:40.000 --> 01:58:42.640
<v Speaker 2>Doesn't matter if we like it or dislike it, we should like</v>

01:58:42.640 --> 01:58:44.720
<v Speaker 2>it, because of course we should love the Word of the Lord,</v>

01:58:44.720 --> 01:58:47.200
<v Speaker 2>as the Psalm says.</v>

01:58:47.200 --> 01:58:49.440
<v Speaker 2>God's Word is God's Word.</v>

01:58:49.440 --> 01:58:50.800
<v Speaker 2>It is unchanging.</v>

01:58:50.800 --> 01:58:53.120
<v Speaker 2>It does endure in eternity.</v>

01:58:53.120 --> 01:58:56.560
<v Speaker 2>Because God is unchanging and His Word flows from His nature.</v>

01:58:56.560 --> 01:58:59.840
<v Speaker 2>Because it is truth and God is.</v>

01:58:59.840 --> 01:59:02.400
<v Speaker 2>Whatever it says, we accept it.</v>

01:59:02.400 --> 01:59:04.240
<v Speaker 2>And that is what the Septuagint says.</v>

01:59:04.240 --> 01:59:09.280
<v Speaker 2>So if it disagrees with your confession or my confession, anyone's confession,</v>

01:59:09.280 --> 01:59:12.640
<v Speaker 2>this theologian that you like, this theologian that I like, that doesn't</v>

01:59:12.560 --> 01:59:14.720
<v Speaker 2>matter at all at all.</v>

01:59:14.720 --> 01:59:19.040
<v Speaker 2>And quite frankly, most of those men were pretty faithful.</v>

01:59:19.040 --> 01:59:22.240
<v Speaker 2>If they had been confronted with this argument and this mountain of</v>

01:59:22.240 --> 01:59:26.000
<v Speaker 2>evidence, they would have repented and burned their own writings insofar as</v>

01:59:26.000 --> 01:59:27.840
<v Speaker 2>they disagreed with the Septuagint</v>

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<v Speaker 2>which would have been the right response.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>And so we're going to be faced with that sort of question</v>

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<v Speaker 2>in the coming days, and months and years.</v>

01:59:39.120 --> 01:59:42.960
<v Speaker 2>What are we going to do now that we know beyond the</v>

01:59:42.960 --> 01:59:48.240
<v Speaker 2>shadow of any reasonable doubt, beyond the shadow of any doubt whatsoever,</v>

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<v Speaker 2>that the Septuagint is the Word of God.</v>

01:59:50.400 --> 01:59:55.040
<v Speaker 2>It is his preserved word in the Greek, which he caused to</v>

01:59:55.040 --> 01:59:59.680
<v Speaker 2>be translated, he caused to be preserved, he has miraculously preserved for</v>

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<v Speaker 2>us down through the centuries, despite our own stupidity and wickedness, our</v>

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<v Speaker 2>own apathy, our own negligence.</v>

02:00:07.520 --> 02:00:10.480
<v Speaker 2>The fact that we did not do our part of the deal,</v>

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<v Speaker 2>we didn't do our duty in preserving his word and transmitting it</v>

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<v Speaker 2>to future generations, as is mentioned so many times in the Scriptures.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>One of the duties of fathers and grandfathers is to see that</v>

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<v Speaker 2>the word is faithfully transmitted to future generations.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>That most certainly includes transmitting the actual word.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, explaining it, yes, teaching it, yes ensuring the next generation and</v>

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<v Speaker 2>the one after that know God's word, are familiar with it, respect</v>

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<v Speaker 2>it, hold it dear.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>But if you don't even transmit the word itself, it doesn't ultimately</v>

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<v Speaker 2>even matter what else you've done.</v>

02:00:42.800 --> 02:00:46.960
<v Speaker 2>You've fallen so far short of your duty that you have simply</v>

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<v Speaker 2>failed. It's not to say that our ancestors were all faithless, because</v>

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<v Speaker 2>many of them were trying to be faithful men.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>Unfortunately they were operating under false presumptions and presuppositions.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>They thought things about the texts that they had that they'd received</v>

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<v Speaker 2>from the rabbis that simply weren't true.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>And so we cannot say without caveat or footnote, as it were,</v>

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<v Speaker 2>that the men who went before us were faithless, because faithless is</v>

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<v Speaker 2>too strong of a word.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>But they were not as faithful as they should have been, in</v>

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<v Speaker 2>some cases due to simple error, in some cases due to other</v>

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<v Speaker 2>things. This is, of course, speaking only of those Christian men who</v>

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<v Speaker 2>went before us, because there were plenty of malefactors who are Certainly</v>

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<v Speaker 2>receiving their eternal reward currently, according to the words of Revelation.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>We know now what the Word of God is.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>We know the Word of God is the Septuagint.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>We know the Word of God is in the Greek.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>We know that the extant versions of the Old Testament that we</v>

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<v Speaker 2>have in our various languages, whatever language happens to be your first</v>

02:02:00.400 --> 02:02:04.160
<v Speaker 2>language, for most of our audience is of course English, but quite</v>

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<v Speaker 2>a bit of French and German and other things as well.</v>

02:02:08.160 --> 02:02:15.280
<v Speaker 2>Those translations are based on corrupted documents, on a corrupted</v>

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<v Speaker 2>source, on the muddy stream of the rabbinic text.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>We have the pure spring of the Greek, of the Septuagint.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>We will speak more about where to go from here in the</v>

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<v Speaker 2>final episode in the overall series.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>But we all know what we have to do.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>We all know we need a new translation of the Old Testament,</v>

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<v Speaker 2>a faithful one that uses the Greek, and does not use the</v>

02:02:42.880 --> 02:02:47.200
<v Speaker 2>rabbinic text in any way, shape, or form, that doesn't reference it,</v>

02:02:47.200 --> 02:02:50.800
<v Speaker 2>that doesn't look at it, that doesn't think about it during the</v>

02:02:50.800 --> 02:02:56.640
<v Speaker 2>translation process, and that has some obvious conclusions that come alongside.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>It's not a small task, but it's also not an impossible one.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>Because again God preserved his word, as he promised.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>We still have it.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>We know Greek because Greek was never lost.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>Unlike the Hebrew that was completely lost, the Greek language was never</v>

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<v Speaker 2>lost. And so we still have the text, we still have the</v>

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<v Speaker 2>tools, we can do this.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>This is not an impossible task that God has set before us.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>As I've said before in previous episodes, we should really look at</v>

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<v Speaker 2>this as a blessing.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>Because God has given us a great gift, preserved it for us,</v>

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<v Speaker 2>made it accessible to us.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>We have an opportunity Opportunity that has been there all along.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>Down through the centuries.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>This opportunity has been there sitting in the archives waiting for someone</v>

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<v Speaker 2>to come along and say, hey, wait a minute.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>But now we know, and now this fact that the Septuagint is</v>

02:03:51.120 --> 02:03:54.000
<v Speaker 2>the word of God, is the preserved word of God</v>

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<v Speaker 2>is spreading.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>Many men know this.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>Unfortunately, many clerics are going to double down on Hebrew, they are</v>

02:04:02.080 --> 02:04:04.720
<v Speaker 2>going to double down on the wickedness, and they are going to</v>

02:04:04.720 --> 02:04:08.800
<v Speaker 2>suffer the curses along with the rabbis.</v>

02:04:08.800 --> 02:04:14.480
<v Speaker 2>Because if you understand the argument that we have made thus far,</v>

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<v Speaker 2>there's absolutely no way you can possibly reject the conclusion.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>The simple fact is that the Septuagint is the word of God.</v>

02:04:23.360 --> 02:04:26.880
<v Speaker 2>The rabbis added to the Word of God, they subtracted from the</v>

02:04:26.880 --> 02:04:32.880
<v Speaker 2>Word of God, they are cursed, and anyone who decides to stick</v>

02:04:32.880 --> 02:04:36.560
<v Speaker 2>with their text will join them in those curses.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>Because of course it is significantly worse to do something knowingly than</v>

02:04:42.080 --> 02:04:45.440
<v Speaker 2>to do something accidentally or even negligently.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>Negligence is bad enough, but knowingly using a corrupted version of the</v>

02:04:51.120 --> 02:04:55.840
<v Speaker 2>old Testament text, when you know it is corrupted, when you know</v>

02:04:55.840 --> 02:04:59.280
<v Speaker 2>that there is a pristine version, when you know there is a</v>

02:04:59.280 --> 02:05:03.040
<v Speaker 2>true and faithful version that exists that is accessible That you should</v>

02:05:03.040 --> 02:05:04.720
<v Speaker 2>be using?</v>

02:05:04.720 --> 02:05:07.360
<v Speaker 2>That is an entirely different matter.</v>

02:05:07.360 --> 02:05:11.520
<v Speaker 2>Knowing sin is always worse than unknowing sin.</v>

02:05:11.520 --> 02:05:12.800
<v Speaker 2>Both are sin.</v>

02:05:12.800 --> 02:05:14.960
<v Speaker 2>You can sin without knowing it.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>But it is far worse to be a high-handed impenitent sinner.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>You do not want to join the rabbis.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>What does Christ say of the rabbis?</v>

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<v Speaker 2>You travel over land and sea to make a proselyte, and make</v>

02:05:29.280 --> 02:05:32.320
<v Speaker 2>him twice the son of hell as you.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>That is what the man who decides to double down on the</v>

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<v Speaker 2>Hebrew, so called, to double down on the rabbinic text, that is</v>

02:05:39.200 --> 02:05:43.040
<v Speaker 2>what he is and will become.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>And so the way forward is simple.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>We have the Old Testament.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>We have it in Greek.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>We need a new translation, a number of new translations in various</v>

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<v Speaker 2>languages. But it is an entirely achievable task, and it is not</v>

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<v Speaker 2>an optional one.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>We cannot rely on this corrupted text passed to us by the</v>

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<v Speaker 2>Christ killing, Christ denying and Christian cursing rabbis.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>We have to rely on the Word of God as He preserved</v>

02:06:14.320 --> 02:06:18.160
<v Speaker 2>it, because He preserved it in Greek because He intended it to</v>

02:06:18.160 --> 02:06:22.800
<v Speaker 2>be preserved in Greek, as I said, it fulfills the Prophecy of</v>

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<v Speaker 2>Father Noah.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>Noah was a prophet.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>He was speaking the words of God.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>He said that Japheth will dwell in the tents of Shem What</v>

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<v Speaker 2>greater fulfillment of that could there possibly be than God causing his</v>

02:06:36.400 --> 02:06:40.400
<v Speaker 2>word to be translated into a European language that all of the</v>

02:06:40.400 --> 02:06:44.320
<v Speaker 2>sons of Japheth would be able to read and translate into their</v>

02:06:44.320 --> 02:06:48.880
<v Speaker 2>own tongues with almost trivial ease.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>God is true to His Word.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>God is true to His promises.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>God's prophecies always come true.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>The prophecy of Noah with regard to Japheth came true, the promise</v>

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<v Speaker 2>of God to preserve his word came true, the words of Christ</v>

02:07:05.200 --> 02:07:09.840
<v Speaker 2>that neither Iota nor Seraph will be lost, have been true and</v>

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<v Speaker 2>will remain true.</v>

02:07:11.040 --> 02:07:13.760
<v Speaker 2>It is It simply falls to us to do our duty as</v>

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<v Speaker 2>Christian men and to be faithful to God.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>The next handful of years are going to sift the wheat from</v>

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<v Speaker 2>the chaff, because there will undoubtedly be those who double down on</v>

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<v Speaker 2>the rabbinic text, who double down on the so-called Hebrew, and in</v>

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<v Speaker 2>the process deny God and apostatize.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>That is going to happen.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>That is absolutely going to happen.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>I can tell you that now with complete certainty.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>What we want for those of you who are listening to this</v>

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<v Speaker 2>episode, who have listened to the series, is not to follow them.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>Don't take the broad path that leads ever downward.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>Take the narrow path.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>The only true path.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>Be faithful to God, obey His Word, believe in His actual Word.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>Believe that he has fulfilled his promises.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>It's that simple.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>It's not a complex task, but it is a difficult one.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>Because you are going to have pastors who are screeching about the</v>

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<v Speaker 2>Hebrew Jew, who are saying the most evil things about the Greek,</v>

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<v Speaker 2>about the Septuagint.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>Their condemnation and their eternity will be the worse for it.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>Don't fear them, don't join them.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>What can man do to me?</v>

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<v Speaker 2>Rely on God, rely on his word.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>Be firm in the conclusion, in your knowledge, your certainty, that the</v>

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<v Speaker 2>Septuagint is God's Word.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>I've laid out the argument, we laid out the history and the</v>

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<v Speaker 2>examples extensively.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>The argument is unassailable, and the conclusion is undeniable.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>But before I end this episode, I think it is appropriate that</v>

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<v Speaker 2>we end with the words of Christ, an example that we used</v>

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<v Speaker 2>in the previous episode.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>But I want to point out something different about the example here</v>

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<v Speaker 2>at the end of this series, and so reading from Luke four.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>And he came to Nazareth, where he had been brought up, and</v>

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<v Speaker 2>as was his custom, he went to the synagogue on the Sabbath</v>

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<v Speaker 2>day, and he stood up to read, and the scroll of the</v>

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<v Speaker 2>prophet Isaiah was given to him.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>He unrolled the scroll and found the place where it was written.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>Gagraman, another form of the same verb from which we get Gagrapti.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>The Spirit of the Lord is upon me, because He has anointed</v>

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<v Speaker 2>me to proclaim good news to the poor.</v>

02:09:42.320 --> 02:09:46.160
<v Speaker 2>He has sent me to proclaim liberty to the captives, and recovering</v>

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<v Speaker 2>of sight to the blind, to set at liberty those who are</v>

02:09:49.040 --> 02:09:53.760
<v Speaker 2>oppressed, to proclaim the year of the Lord's favor.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>We already pointed out how the wicked rabbis removed recovering of sight</v>

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<v Speaker 2>to the blind, such a key part of Christ's earthly ministry.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>And we also highlighted how the New Testament is essentially a quote,</v>

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<v Speaker 2>differing only very slightly from what is in the Septuagint.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>But I want to highlight that sort of preamble, the introduction to</v>

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<v Speaker 2>the quote here.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>What does it say that Christ did?</v>

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<v Speaker 2>He read from the scroll of the prophet Isaiah.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>The word there for scroll in the Greek is Biblion, the word</v>

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<v Speaker 2>from which we get Bible.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>He was reading from the Greek scroll of Isaiah, not from the</v>

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<v Speaker 2>so called great scroll of Isaiah that they want to pass off</v>

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<v Speaker 2>as some great find.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>No, he was reading from the Septuagint.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>That's why what he read matches the Septuagint.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>And I want you to think about the typology here as well,</v>

02:10:52.000 --> 02:10:53.360
<v Speaker 2>the connection to what is going on</v>

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<v Speaker 2>in our day?</v>

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<v Speaker 2>What part of Christ's ministry did they remove?</v>

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<v Speaker 2>The recovering of sight to the blind.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>Who is possibly more blind than he who believes something that is</v>

02:11:06.640 --> 02:11:10.400
<v Speaker 2>not the word of God is the word of God, or he</v>

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<v Speaker 2>who denies that what is the word of God is the Word</v>

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<v Speaker 2>of God, as so many faithless clerics are going to do in</v>

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<v Speaker 2>the coming years.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>It could not possibly be more obvious that the Scripture of the</v>

02:11:24.480 --> 02:11:29.600
<v Speaker 2>Early Church, the Scripture of the Apostles, and the Scripture of Christ</v>

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<v Speaker 2>Himself, who read from it, in the very pages of Scripture</v>

02:11:35.200 --> 02:11:39.920
<v Speaker 2>was and is the Septuagint, because that is the word of God</v>

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<v Speaker 2>that He preserved for His Church in order to preserve His Church.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>The way forward is simple, and the way forward is obvious.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>It will be difficult, but God is with us, and we will</v>

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<v Speaker 2>certainly need his help.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>But God has never abandoned his church, and he never will.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>Amen.</v>