WEBVTT 00:00:00.160 --> 00:00:00.640 Yeah. 00:00:37.040 --> 00:00:39.600 Welcome to the Stone Choir Podcast. 00:00:39.600 --> 00:00:40.480 I am Corey J. 00:00:40.720 --> 00:00:41.840 Mahler. And 00:00:41.840 --> 00:00:44.240 I'm still woe. 00:00:44.240 --> 00:00:48.560 Today's Stone Choir will be a continuation of last week's series that 00:00:48.560 --> 00:00:51.520 we began on the subject of the Jews and history. 00:00:51.520 --> 00:00:54.640 First episode was covering the entirety of scripture. 00:00:54.640 --> 00:00:56.720 This week we're going to be picking up pretty much where we 00:00:56.720 --> 00:01:00.480 left off with the destruction of the temple. 00:01:00.480 --> 00:01:00.800 And 00:01:01.760 --> 00:01:04.080 we're probably going to get through the Middle Ages today. 00:01:04.080 --> 00:01:04.560 We'll see. 00:01:04.560 --> 00:01:07.280 Uh there's this is going to be an extremely cursory look. 00:01:07.280 --> 00:01:10.320 We're not trying to give an exhaustive history of the Jews as 00:01:10.320 --> 00:01:11.440 a people. 00:01:11.440 --> 00:01:13.680 I think there are three main points that we want to make 00:01:13.680 --> 00:01:14.800 here today. 00:01:14.800 --> 00:01:17.920 And we're going to present evidence to this effect. 00:01:17.920 --> 00:01:23.680 The first is that the Jews were effectively destroyed when the temple 00:01:23.680 --> 00:01:24.720 was destroyed. 00:01:24.720 --> 00:01:28.800 When they called down God's curse against them, it worked. 00:01:28.800 --> 00:01:30.880 They They were scattered to the winds. 00:01:30.880 --> 00:01:35.040 They were just a people without anything, without a homeland. 00:01:35.040 --> 00:01:36.640 They lost their language. 00:01:37.120 --> 00:01:42.480 They abandoned their religion by abandoning God and pursuing false gods, which 00:01:42.480 --> 00:01:45.440 we'll get into a little bit here today. 00:01:45.440 --> 00:01:50.400 The second thing to get across is that the examples that we 00:01:50.400 --> 00:01:52.960 give are going to have two main themes. 00:01:52.960 --> 00:02:00.000 One, the Jews post-Sentapole destruction were frequently 00:02:00.000 --> 00:02:02.320 concealing what they were actually doing. 00:02:02.320 --> 00:02:08.000 There was subterfuge, there was secret symbolism, there were secret plans and 00:02:08.000 --> 00:02:11.520 then public pronouncements that were at odds with each other. 00:02:11.520 --> 00:02:14.960 And so a lot of the history of the Jews post second 00:02:15.120 --> 00:02:18.960 temple has to do with someone else finding out what they're up 00:02:18.960 --> 00:02:21.840 to and getting upset about it for you know good or bad 00:02:22.160 --> 00:02:23.760 reasons, you can decide for yourself. 00:02:23.760 --> 00:02:26.000 We're gonna present a bit of that history. 00:02:26.000 --> 00:02:28.960 And then the third one is is basically they were just frequently 00:02:28.960 --> 00:02:30.320 up to no good. 00:02:30.320 --> 00:02:33.440 Uh to give just a brief recap of the up to no 00:02:33.520 --> 00:02:35.840 good to which they were attempting. 00:02:35.840 --> 00:02:40.400 Uh'm gonna give a just a brief highlight reel from past Stonequire 00:02:40.560 --> 00:02:45.360 episodes. Today's episode is number thirty-five, so we've got thirty-four episodes behind 00:02:45.360 --> 00:02:49.280 us. In twelve separate episodes, the Jews have come up, not because 00:02:49.280 --> 00:02:53.600 Corey and I are racist anti-Semites who just hate people, but because 00:02:53.840 --> 00:02:59.680 when you're looking at theological concepts and problems facing Christendom, a certain 00:02:59.680 --> 00:03:01.200 group keeps popping up. 00:03:01.200 --> 00:03:02.080 I didn't do that. 00:03:02.080 --> 00:03:03.120 Corey didn't do that. 00:03:03.600 --> 00:03:07.280 We sub find over and over that the Jews show up when 00:03:07.280 --> 00:03:09.120 there are problems in Christendom. 00:03:09.120 --> 00:03:14.400 So first in episode three on Christian nationalism, we mentioned for the 00:03:14.480 --> 00:03:17.840 first time that the slave ships that came from Africa to North 00:03:17.840 --> 00:03:21.120 America were overwhelmingly owned by Jews. 00:03:21.120 --> 00:03:25.040 The slave markets were owned almost exclusively, I believe, by Jews. 00:03:25.040 --> 00:03:27.280 The slave markets all closed on the Sabbath. 00:03:27.280 --> 00:03:30.080 Pretty weird, if you know, it's white guys. 00:03:30.080 --> 00:03:34.640 And then the majority or the almost majority of owners of slaves 00:03:34.640 --> 00:03:37.600 in the South were themselves Jews. 00:03:37.600 --> 00:03:44.800 So whatever you think about the horrors of slavery in antebellum South 00:03:45.360 --> 00:03:47.040 has something to do with those people. 00:03:47.040 --> 00:03:48.640 You can disentangle the two. 00:03:48.640 --> 00:03:51.920 That's a big deal because today we get America gets blamed for 00:03:51.920 --> 00:03:54.240 slavery, whites get blamed for slavery. 00:03:54.240 --> 00:03:57.760 If you're going to be assigning blame today for slavery, let's make 00:03:57.760 --> 00:04:01.200 sure we don't leave out the people who actually precipitated it. 00:04:01.200 --> 00:04:04.480 Episode five, a man a name no man knows. 00:04:04.480 --> 00:04:08.560 We mentioned that you know, pseudonymity in in changing names is there's 00:04:08.560 --> 00:04:10.000 nothing inherently wrong with it. 00:04:10.000 --> 00:04:14.080 I wrote a list of names of mainly Jewish entertainers who change 00:04:14.160 --> 00:04:18.480 their names from extremely Jewish names to extremely Anglo sounding names. 00:04:18.480 --> 00:04:21.440 So if they blend in, so that people would forget that they 00:04:21.440 --> 00:04:23.920 were Jews and they would just be, you know, Americans. 00:04:23.920 --> 00:04:25.120 Good or bad, I don't care. 00:04:25.120 --> 00:04:26.640 Like it it doesn't upset me. 00:04:26.640 --> 00:04:30.400 But I think it's just interesting that that sort of shape shifting 00:04:30.400 --> 00:04:33.120 has long roots, which we'll be getting into today. 00:04:33.520 --> 00:04:38.160 In episode s eight we discussed in neglected matters, we covered five 00:04:38.160 --> 00:04:40.960 issues and two of them touched directly on Jews. 00:04:40.960 --> 00:04:44.240 Uh the first was usury, and we mentioned how from the time 00:04:44.240 --> 00:04:47.600 of Moses usury was banned among believers in God. 00:04:47.600 --> 00:04:50.080 Charging of interest was a crime. 00:04:50.080 --> 00:04:54.560 And it wasn't until the middle ages when princes and kings began 00:04:54.560 --> 00:04:59.440 seeing the desirability of borrowing money or having lending made available, principally 00:04:59.440 --> 00:05:04.560 for prosecuting wars, that they began letting Jews commit usury. 00:05:04.560 --> 00:05:07.040 It was still forbidden for Christians, it was still a crime for 00:05:07.040 --> 00:05:10.800 Christians, but Jews were permitted to do so with the specific thinking 00:05:10.800 --> 00:05:14.000 that well they're going to hell anyway, so let's get some upside 00:05:14.000 --> 00:05:17.520 from lending, because there are upsides to lending at interest. 00:05:17.520 --> 00:05:21.520 They're downsides, it's sin, but they're certainly upsides, and that's often the 00:05:21.520 --> 00:05:22.240 case with sin. 00:05:22.240 --> 00:05:25.760 It's not all bad where people wouldn't do it. 00:05:25.920 --> 00:05:28.960 One of the other issues that we discussed in the neglected matters 00:05:29.040 --> 00:05:30.560 was head coverings in church. 00:05:30.560 --> 00:05:34.640 And we mentioned the fact that Betty Frieden Goldstein, who founded the 00:05:34.640 --> 00:05:39.200 National Organization for Women in 1968 set out to do two things 00:05:39.200 --> 00:05:44.160 immediately. One, legalize abortion and two, get head coverings burned and out 00:05:44.160 --> 00:05:45.040 of our churches. 00:05:45.040 --> 00:05:47.120 And she succeeded in both in short order. 00:05:47.120 --> 00:05:51.280 So we took Christian doctrine from a Jewish lady in nineteen sixty 00:05:51.280 --> 00:05:55.120 eight. That's important and like I said at the beginning, that's not 00:05:55.120 --> 00:05:57.120 us complaining about the Jews. 00:05:57.120 --> 00:06:00.160 It's just saying, hey, over and over we find this same group 00:06:00.160 --> 00:06:01.360 of people showing up. 00:06:01.360 --> 00:06:04.480 Maybe there's something that's deeper there. 00:06:04.480 --> 00:06:07.520 And if someone has a problem with them later on, maybe it's 00:06:07.440 --> 00:06:09.920 not the person who has a problem with the issue that is 00:06:09.920 --> 00:06:10.720 the problem. 00:06:10.720 --> 00:06:14.320 Maybe the fact that a group of people keep doing bad things 00:06:14.320 --> 00:06:16.960 is something that can at least be discussed. 00:06:16.960 --> 00:06:19.760 And these are the these are the ground rules for everyone today. 00:06:19.760 --> 00:06:25.440 You know pretty much the entire news cycle is a re examination 00:06:25.440 --> 00:06:29.680 of European history and assigning blame for things from hundreds and thousands 00:06:29.680 --> 00:06:30.880 of years ago. 00:06:30.880 --> 00:06:32.480 If those are the rules, okay. 00:06:32.480 --> 00:06:35.040 If you can look in history and say, well, this person's responsible 00:06:35.040 --> 00:06:39.040 for this, this group's responsible for this, sometimes that may be fair. 00:06:39.040 --> 00:06:42.240 Corey and I have no problem with generational guilt. 00:06:42.240 --> 00:06:46.160 We have no c problem with collective guilt when it is justly 00:06:46.160 --> 00:06:49.760 applied. So it's perfectly fair game for any group. 00:06:49.760 --> 00:06:51.840 It just so happens that many of the things that we as 00:06:51.840 --> 00:06:56.240 Christians are concerned about, have Jews at their root. 00:06:56.240 --> 00:07:00.640 Episode eleven, among the Ashans, we mentioned that Judeo Christian is a 00:07:00.640 --> 00:07:02.720 term that was invented in the twentieth century. 00:07:02.720 --> 00:07:04.160 It's an oxymoron. 00:07:04.160 --> 00:07:06.080 There's no such thing as Judeo Christian. 00:07:06.080 --> 00:07:07.440 Those are opposites. 00:07:07.440 --> 00:07:13.120 And we made the case that that emerged because the ghettos of 00:07:13.120 --> 00:07:15.840 Europe were being disgorged on our shores. 00:07:15.840 --> 00:07:19.360 And suddenly you had this large influx not in the south, but 00:07:19.360 --> 00:07:23.120 in the north and really throughout the country of Jews coming from 00:07:23.120 --> 00:07:26.800 mainly Eastern Europe and they wanted to assimilate, you know, a lot 00:07:26.800 --> 00:07:28.080 of the name changing and things. 00:07:28.080 --> 00:07:32.960 And one of the ways of assimilation was to invent Judeo-Christianity, where 00:07:32.960 --> 00:07:36.640 suddenly you have this Christian nation of America and all these Jews 00:07:36.640 --> 00:07:39.040 are showing up and so they want to say, hey, we're on 00:07:39.120 --> 00:07:43.120 the same tomb team, same God, you know, same morals, same basic 00:07:43.120 --> 00:07:45.120 values, we're all together, man. 00:07:45.120 --> 00:07:46.800 Well, here that's true or it's false. 00:07:46.800 --> 00:07:49.120 We discussed that in episode eleven. 00:07:49.120 --> 00:07:51.760 Episode fourteen was pretty much about Jews. 00:07:51.760 --> 00:07:56.000 Uh we had uh some discussion of Carl Popper, Theodore Adorno, and 00:07:56.000 --> 00:07:59.840 most of it was about Saul Alinsky and his rules for radicals. 00:08:00.000 --> 00:08:04.320 That was pretty much an an episode about Satan's playbook and as 00:08:04.320 --> 00:08:08.320 it's practiced and exemplified today, it's all Jews doing it. 00:08:08.320 --> 00:08:09.200 We didn't do that. 00:08:09.200 --> 00:08:10.560 That's just who showed up. 00:08:11.120 --> 00:08:15.280 Episode 15 on human race, we discuss in foundational matters the fact 00:08:15.280 --> 00:08:16.800 that Jew is a race. 00:08:16.800 --> 00:08:22.320 It is not only a religion, and underlying everything is the racial 00:08:22.320 --> 00:08:27.360 aspect. If you say, if someone says, I don't like Jews, the 00:08:27.360 --> 00:08:29.840 typical response is, Oh, you're a racist. 00:08:29.840 --> 00:08:35.040 And yet, if someone says, Hey, did you know that that guy's 00:08:34.960 --> 00:08:37.360 a Jew, they would say, Well, how do you know that? 00:08:37.360 --> 00:08:40.320 He doesn't wear the hat, he doesn't keep kosher, he doesn't go 00:08:40.320 --> 00:08:41.200 to Sabbath. 00:08:41.200 --> 00:08:42.320 Why do you think he's a Jew? 00:08:42.320 --> 00:08:45.680 He's doesn't he's not he's Presbyterian. 00:08:45.680 --> 00:08:48.640 So like it's it's an either or thing, it's it's a it's 00:08:48.560 --> 00:08:53.360 a gotcha game where it's racist if you dislike something about Jews, 00:08:53.360 --> 00:08:56.480 but it's a religion if there's anything good about what they're doing. 00:08:56.480 --> 00:08:58.880 It's just it's one of those games that gets played and it 00:08:58.880 --> 00:09:00.800 leaves us tied up in knots. 00:09:00.800 --> 00:09:02.880 But Jew is in fact a race. 00:09:02.880 --> 00:09:06.720 I mean we made that very clear last episode just discussing Scripture. 00:09:06.720 --> 00:09:09.200 All the genealogy was about the race of Jews. 00:09:09.200 --> 00:09:10.960 That's not inherently a bad thing. 00:09:10.960 --> 00:09:12.080 Everyone has a race. 00:09:12.080 --> 00:09:13.600 That's how God made us. 00:09:13.600 --> 00:09:16.320 We don't hate people because of their race, but if there are 00:09:16.320 --> 00:09:19.920 differences, maybe they're consequential, and we see in time that in fact 00:09:19.920 --> 00:09:21.520 they are. 00:09:21.520 --> 00:09:26.400 Episode nineteen on human race and racism, we talked about Magnus Hirschfeld, 00:09:26.400 --> 00:09:28.400 the Jew from Weimar Germany who was conducting 00:09:29.360 --> 00:09:37.040 horrific sexual experiments, transsexual science, so called pornography, sodomy, 00:09:37.040 --> 00:09:40.800 the worst imaginable sins that are reemerging today. 00:09:40.800 --> 00:09:44.640 When he fled Germany, he immediately went on to write the book 00:09:44.800 --> 00:09:48.320 Racism. He was a Jew. 00:09:48.320 --> 00:09:51.680 Also appearing in that same episode was the murder of the Tsars 00:09:51.920 --> 00:09:56.000 and Communism, all of which was run by Jews. 00:09:56.000 --> 00:09:59.600 So over and over, this group of people shows up in the 00:09:59.600 --> 00:10:02.240 very worst moments in European history. 00:10:02.240 --> 00:10:04.960 And we're going to cover some more of those today. 00:10:05.040 --> 00:10:08.000 Episode 20 Against the Antichrist, we revisit the fact that the Jewish 00:10:08.400 --> 00:10:11.040 slavers were were relevant. 00:10:11.040 --> 00:10:14.080 Uh episode twenty three on women and feminism. 00:10:14.080 --> 00:10:18.640 Well we didn't explicitly mention Jews uh mainly because we didn't want 00:10:18.640 --> 00:10:21.760 to get too much into second wave feminism or later. 00:10:21.760 --> 00:10:26.480 The history of feminism in the twentieth century is almost entirely Jewish. 00:10:26.480 --> 00:10:29.040 Just a couple names that most people will probably recognize. 00:10:29.040 --> 00:10:35.120 Again, Betty Frieden, Ni Goldstein, Gloria Steinem, Gloria Alred, Andrea Dworkin, and 00:10:35.120 --> 00:10:37.600 Naomi Wolf, all Jewesses. 00:10:37.600 --> 00:10:40.480 So those are their contributions to feminism. 00:10:40.480 --> 00:10:43.200 If you think feminism is bad, you should give them credit. 00:10:43.200 --> 00:10:45.520 If you think it's great, you should also give them credit. 00:10:45.520 --> 00:10:48.800 When they take credit for what they're doing, who are we to 00:10:48.800 --> 00:10:49.760 rob them of it? 00:10:49.760 --> 00:10:54.720 Feminism in the twentieth century was entirely a Jewish gift to our 00:10:54.720 --> 00:10:58.880 civilization, and I think it's important to give them that credit. 00:10:58.880 --> 00:11:01.920 Episode twenty seven and listener feedback, episode one. 00:11:01.920 --> 00:11:06.640 Uh, we finished with Israel Zangwill's The Melting Pot play, which was 00:11:06.640 --> 00:11:10.880 a play that was basically dedicated both to race mixing and to 00:11:11.200 --> 00:11:15.760 the newly invented concept that America itself isn't a nation. 00:11:15.760 --> 00:11:17.920 It doesn't have any particular bloodline. 00:11:17.920 --> 00:11:21.200 It's just this big cauldron where people from all around the world 00:11:21.200 --> 00:11:22.720 get dumped in. 00:11:22.720 --> 00:11:25.520 And then I don't know what we're just, you know, as the 00:11:25.520 --> 00:11:26.880 way is Cory finished up. 00:11:26.880 --> 00:11:29.040 It sounded pretty hellish to us. 00:11:29.040 --> 00:11:32.080 That if you've ever said melting pot, you're quoting a man named 00:11:32.160 --> 00:11:34.720 Israel. So make sure you give him credit. 00:11:34.720 --> 00:11:38.960 Episode thirty against the Quakwork Universe, we discussed uh Corey mentioned the 00:11:38.960 --> 00:11:44.160 Jewish law school professor Eugene Rostow, who declared that ceremonial deism was 00:11:44.160 --> 00:11:45.920 the official United States religion. 00:11:45.920 --> 00:11:49.520 And he's spot on man, that goes back centuries. 00:11:49.520 --> 00:11:54.240 And episode 23, most recently on Michael King, the Marxist Agitator. 00:11:54.240 --> 00:11:56.880 I joked that most of the names in that read like the 00:11:56.880 --> 00:12:01.760 television phone book, uh, beginning with Stanley Levison, his lifelong handler. 00:12:01.760 --> 00:12:05.760 Pretty much everyone who influenced him and was moving the Marxist needle 00:12:05.760 --> 00:12:10.080 in civil rights in the sixties in America, they were almost all 00:12:10.080 --> 00:12:14.800 Jews, not exclusively, but in the absence of that people group, the 00:12:14.800 --> 00:12:16.720 civil rights movement wouldn't have existed. 00:12:16.960 --> 00:12:18.960 So again, that's relevant. 00:12:18.960 --> 00:12:21.280 It's not err we're mad at these people. 00:12:21.280 --> 00:12:23.200 It's I don't like evil. 00:12:23.200 --> 00:12:25.200 And if I think something is evil and then I look at 00:12:25.200 --> 00:12:27.760 the genealogy of the man who's doing the thing and I keep 00:12:27.760 --> 00:12:31.200 finding the same pattern, it's gonna draw my attention. 00:12:31.200 --> 00:12:33.920 You know, five, six, seven years ago, I didn't care. 00:12:33.920 --> 00:12:35.360 I basically didn't what a Jew was. 00:12:35.360 --> 00:12:37.200 I was completely indifferent. 00:12:37.200 --> 00:12:38.480 I had a bunch of Jewish friends. 00:12:38.480 --> 00:12:40.800 I'd good friends with a number of 'em. 00:12:40.880 --> 00:12:42.400 I had great conversations. 00:12:42.400 --> 00:12:46.160 It is not hatred to say, huh, over and over, I keep 00:12:46.160 --> 00:12:47.520 seeing this pattern. 00:12:47.520 --> 00:12:49.600 That's just intelligence. 00:12:49.600 --> 00:12:50.800 That's honesty. 00:12:50.800 --> 00:12:53.760 So today we're going to be having an honest assessment of the 00:12:53.760 --> 00:12:57.680 truth of some more aspects of history post second temple destruction, beginning 00:12:57.680 --> 00:13:00.240 with the destruction of the temple itself, and then some of the 00:13:00.240 --> 00:13:01.600 things that happened after 00:13:01.600 --> 00:13:02.880 that. And 00:13:02.880 --> 00:13:07.920 so we'll start with the first of three Roman Jewish wars, so 00:13:07.920 --> 00:13:10.480 called And really, this is the 00:13:11.680 --> 00:13:16.800 one of the major Jewish revolts against the Roman Empire, and that 00:13:16.800 --> 00:13:21.360 is the one that is eventually put down by Vespasian and Titus, 00:13:21.360 --> 00:13:26.400 and that is when the temple is burned in 70 AD. 00:13:26.400 --> 00:13:31.280 So basically, what happens in this revolt is the Jews start a 00:13:31.280 --> 00:13:35.040 major uprising, as was their want. 00:13:35.040 --> 00:13:38.240 We see that in the pages of scripture, that is why Pilate 00:13:38.240 --> 00:13:41.440 has such a difficult time dealing with them and tries to be 00:13:41.440 --> 00:13:46.960 so careful, because these people were known for constantly causing trouble for 00:13:46.960 --> 00:13:49.280 the Empire. 00:13:49.280 --> 00:13:53.920 But But they instigate a revolt, and the result of that is 00:13:53.920 --> 00:13:58.240 that it gets squashed by the Romans fairly conclusively. 00:13:58.240 --> 00:14:02.720 In this particular revolt the Romans do lose a fair number of 00:14:02.720 --> 00:14:10.000 soldiers, it's ten thousand plus, according to Roman records, which is nothing 00:14:10.000 --> 00:14:12.400 compared to the third 00:14:13.280 --> 00:14:17.760 Roman Jewish War, which we'll get to, and the Jews lose something 00:14:17.760 --> 00:14:20.160 on the order of probably about 20,000. 00:14:20.160 --> 00:14:23.040 And then there's some number of civilians who are killed as well. 00:14:23.040 --> 00:14:25.920 That's harder to estimate. 00:14:25.920 --> 00:14:30.720 But the major point, of course, is, as was stated, the temple 00:14:30.720 --> 00:14:36.320 is burned, it is sacked and burned, it is destroyed, completely, utterly. 00:14:36.320 --> 00:14:38.960 Because of course you should think of the words of Christ when 00:14:38.960 --> 00:14:42.240 you hear that the temple was Temple was destroyed, not one stone 00:14:42.240 --> 00:14:44.320 will be left standing on another. 00:14:44.320 --> 00:14:46.960 And that's what the Romans do. 00:14:46.960 --> 00:14:50.240 The Romans loot the temple and destroy it. 00:14:50.240 --> 00:14:51.280 It is gone. 00:14:51.280 --> 00:14:56.240 This is God's judgment on the Jews taking physical form. 00:14:56.240 --> 00:15:00.720 The temple is gone, the place where they went to, at some 00:15:00.720 --> 00:15:03.680 points in their history, worship God, at other points in their history 00:15:03.760 --> 00:15:08.080 to worship idols, because they contaminated the temple with idols frequently. 00:15:08.320 --> 00:15:10.880 But it's now gone. 00:15:10.880 --> 00:15:14.320 Because of course, that's not how you're supposed to worship God. 00:15:14.320 --> 00:15:15.920 You don't worship God at the temple. 00:15:15.920 --> 00:15:22.160 You worship God by being a Christian, by believing in Christ. 00:15:22.160 --> 00:15:26.720 But But to move on to the second of these three Roman 00:15:26.800 --> 00:15:30.880 Jewish wars, the second one is often called the Kitos War, named 00:15:30.880 --> 00:15:33.840 after one of the gentlemen involved. 00:15:33.840 --> 00:15:38.960 This one has a much higher count when it comes to the 00:15:38.960 --> 00:15:40.000 death toll. 00:15:40.000 --> 00:15:44.400 And the reason for that isn't actually due to the conflict itself. 00:15:44.400 --> 00:15:46.720 I don't remember exactly how many died in the conflict, I think 00:15:46.720 --> 00:15:51.040 the records disagree on that, but it was the number of soldiers 00:15:51.040 --> 00:15:53.760 killed wasn't enormous. 00:15:53.760 --> 00:16:00.560 However, the Jews started uprisings in various places in the Roman Empire 00:16:00.560 --> 00:16:04.000 simultaneously because the Romans were dealing with other things in some of 00:16:04.000 --> 00:16:06.320 the fringe part of the parts of the Empire. 00:16:06.320 --> 00:16:08.320 And so the Jews seized the opportunity. 00:16:08.320 --> 00:16:13.920 They instigated an uprising in Egypt, in Cyprus, in Libya, and, of 00:16:13.920 --> 00:16:16.080 course, in Israel 00:16:17.040 --> 00:16:19.600 in Judea. 00:16:19.600 --> 00:16:25.280 What is notable about this particular conflict is that in Cyrene and 00:16:25.280 --> 00:16:29.760 Cyprus alone, because we have records for that from Cassius Dio, a 00:16:29.760 --> 00:16:34.320 Roman historian, four hundred and sixty thousand or more Roman subjects were 00:16:34.320 --> 00:16:39.440 murdered, civilians murdered by the Jews. 00:16:39.440 --> 00:16:43.920 That would have been primarily Romanized Greeks, of course, because of the 00:16:43.920 --> 00:16:50.480 location. Now as a Christian, that should make you think. 00:16:50.480 --> 00:16:52.560 Because look at the timeline here. 00:16:52.560 --> 00:16:56.720 Seventy AD is the first conflict when the temple is destroyed. 00:16:56.720 --> 00:16:58.480 That's sort of the conclusion of that conflict. 00:16:58.480 --> 00:17:01.200 It takes them a few years to clean up some rebels out 00:17:01.200 --> 00:17:02.560 in the fringes. 00:17:03.200 --> 00:17:07.760 This conflict is some years later between the years of one hundred 00:17:07.760 --> 00:17:11.200 and fifteen and one hundred and seventeen. 00:17:11.200 --> 00:17:15.040 Many of these Roman Greeks who were murdered by the Jews would 00:17:15.040 --> 00:17:18.560 have been Christian at this point. 00:17:18.560 --> 00:17:24.240 This was in part Jews waging a pogrom against Christians. 00:17:24.240 --> 00:17:27.120 And the numbers I gave you are the ones that we know 00:17:27.280 --> 00:17:29.200 from Cyrene and Cyprus alone. 00:17:29.200 --> 00:17:31.440 I I told you some of the other places they had the 00:17:31.440 --> 00:17:35.280 uprising. We don't know the death toll in Egypt, Libya, or other 00:17:35.280 --> 00:17:37.280 places in the eastern Mediterranean. 00:17:37.280 --> 00:17:40.960 It may very well have been excess of a million Roman subjects 00:17:40.960 --> 00:17:43.920 who were murdered in this uprising. 00:17:44.320 --> 00:17:48.400 It's interesting that they would start all these revolts all over the 00:17:48.400 --> 00:17:51.600 place all at once because we saw exactly the same thing in 00:17:51.600 --> 00:17:54.320 the 19th and again in the twentieth centuries. 00:17:55.200 --> 00:17:58.880 the wave of revolutions in eighteen forty eight and then the wave 00:17:58.880 --> 00:18:03.360 of communist resolu revolutions in the nineteen teens. 00:18:03.440 --> 00:18:04.640 Same people. 00:18:04.640 --> 00:18:09.760 It was the same pattern, killing Christians en masse, mass revolution, mass 00:18:09.760 --> 00:18:12.800 chaos, same coordinators. 00:18:12.800 --> 00:18:16.960 So when we talk about Satan's playbook, we're not just like how 00:18:17.040 --> 00:18:19.120 many times do you have to see the paint same pattern before 00:18:19.120 --> 00:18:21.120 you before you recognize it's a pattern. 00:18:21.120 --> 00:18:24.480 And you don't necessarily need to immediately jump to a conclusion, but 00:18:24.480 --> 00:18:28.160 when it's the same people doing the same thing, take that seriously. 00:18:28.160 --> 00:18:32.480 The slaughter of Christians in the 20th century is mirrored in the 00:18:32.480 --> 00:18:33.520 second century. 00:18:33.520 --> 00:18:36.320 That should matter to us as Christians. 00:18:36.320 --> 00:18:36.480 I 00:18:36.480 --> 00:18:40.240 guess I should mention a bit of historical irony, as it were, 00:18:40.240 --> 00:18:46.160 after the first of these three conflicts, because obviously Jerusalem was largely 00:18:46.160 --> 00:18:53.360 destroyed, the Jews shifted their center of power and focus, their leadership, 00:18:53.360 --> 00:18:55.120 to Galilee of all places. 00:18:55.120 --> 00:18:58.800 There's just a little bit of historical irony in the fact that 00:18:58.800 --> 00:19:00.880 they had to go there. 00:19:00.880 --> 00:19:07.120 But the results of the Second Roman Jewish War, of course, again, 00:19:07.120 --> 00:19:11.440 victory for the Romans, they eventually did crush the Jewish rebellion, they 00:19:11.520 --> 00:19:15.280 killed many of the rebels, some number of hundreds of thousands dead, 00:19:15.360 --> 00:19:18.480 probably two hundred thousand dead, plus civilians. 00:19:18.480 --> 00:19:20.880 Difficult to count the number of civilians. 00:19:20.880 --> 00:19:23.760 The Jews weren't taking a census in the way the Romans were, 00:19:23.760 --> 00:19:25.680 so the Romans had better numbers. 00:19:25.680 --> 00:19:29.600 But eventually they pushed them back to the city of Lydda, laid 00:19:29.600 --> 00:19:33.920 siege to that city, and destroyed the rebels and their leadership. 00:19:33.920 --> 00:19:36.960 The reason the city is worth mentioning is because the slain of 00:19:37.360 --> 00:19:41.760 Lidda is a phrase that is used in the Talmud as 00:19:42.960 --> 00:19:45.520 these are people who are praised in the Talmud for what they 00:19:45.520 --> 00:19:49.840 did. The Jews are proud of what they did in this rebellion, 00:19:49.840 --> 00:19:50.800 of the hundreds of thousands 00:19:51.680 --> 00:19:55.840 of the potentially million that they slaughtered. 00:19:55.840 --> 00:19:59.760 But the last of the conflicts, and perhaps the most important of 00:19:59.760 --> 00:20:03.920 these, other than obviously the temple being destroyed in the first one, 00:20:03.920 --> 00:20:04.640 is the third 00:20:05.600 --> 00:20:09.760 Roman Jewish War, or the Third Jewish Revolt, usually called the Bar 00:20:09.920 --> 00:20:14.240 Kokhba Revolt, because it was led by Simon Bar Kokhba, Simon son 00:20:14.240 --> 00:20:16.400 of Kokhba. 00:20:16.400 --> 00:20:20.720 That was in the years 132 through 136. 00:20:20.720 --> 00:20:23.920 So this was not necessarily a short conflict. 00:20:23.920 --> 00:20:29.280 This lasted a while, particularly the final siege that was when the 00:20:29.280 --> 00:20:35.520 Romans annihilated these rebels, because again the Romans did win this one. 00:20:35.520 --> 00:20:40.720 However, this came at a serious cost to the Romans. 00:20:40.720 --> 00:20:44.960 It is estimated that the Romans lost, I believe it was at 00:20:44.960 --> 00:20:47.760 least two hundred thousand soldiers. 00:20:47.760 --> 00:20:53.360 It's difficult to tell because it's not exactly clear historically all of 00:20:53.360 --> 00:20:58.800 the legions that were present in Judea for this particular conflict. 00:20:58.800 --> 00:21:03.760 However, some number of tens of thousands up to two hundred thousand 00:21:03.760 --> 00:21:06.080 Roman soldiers died in this. 00:21:06.080 --> 00:21:10.640 And between two hundred thousand and four hundred thousand Jewish militia or 00:21:10.640 --> 00:21:12.960 whatever you want to call them died in this, and then some 00:21:12.960 --> 00:21:16.720 number of thousands of the rebels directly under Barkhba. 00:21:16.720 --> 00:21:22.640 However, the major outcome of this was the final destruction of the 00:21:22.640 --> 00:21:27.360 Jewish people in what is at the time Palestine. 00:21:27.360 --> 00:21:33.920 Because earlier, as a result of that second conflict, Hadrian had imposed 00:21:33.920 --> 00:21:34.960 a number of 00:21:36.800 --> 00:21:41.040 punitive measures on the Jewish people, basically because of their bad behavior, 00:21:41.040 --> 00:21:44.240 and the fact that they kept revolting and causing problems for the 00:21:44.240 --> 00:21:51.680 Empire. But This third one, the Barcokpa revolt basically the Romans 00:21:51.680 --> 00:21:53.520 razed Judea. 00:21:53.520 --> 00:21:58.080 They destroyed the fortified towns, they burned villages to the ground, they 00:21:58.080 --> 00:22:04.000 killed probably a half million or so Jews, they were done with 00:22:04.000 --> 00:22:08.240 the Jewish people, done having to deal with these conflicts, and every, 00:22:08.240 --> 00:22:13.680 you know, handful of decades having to send legions over to this 00:22:13.920 --> 00:22:17.280 province that's on the periphery of the Roman Empire that just constantly 00:22:17.280 --> 00:22:20.160 causes them so many problems, and not just on the periphery, because 00:22:20.240 --> 00:22:24.320 of course they were instigating rebellions in other parts of the Empire 00:22:24.320 --> 00:22:25.600 as well. 00:22:25.600 --> 00:22:31.040 I should expand on what Hadrian does here, because in the aftermath 00:22:31.040 --> 00:22:36.080 of this revolt, this is where the real onerous measures come for 00:22:36.080 --> 00:22:39.120 the Jews, the ones who weren't dead. 00:22:39.120 --> 00:22:42.320 They were completely banned from Jerusalem. 00:22:42.320 --> 00:22:46.720 They were allowed their one day per year, their Tishabaav day, which 00:22:46.720 --> 00:22:51.440 is basically their annual day of whining about things that they have 00:22:51.440 --> 00:22:56.240 suffered because of things that they have done. 00:22:56.240 --> 00:23:01.680 But the reason it's notable what happens here in this particular conflict, 00:23:01.680 --> 00:23:05.760 and what Hadrian does, is because this is the real beginning of 00:23:05.760 --> 00:23:07.840 the modern Jewish diaspora. 00:23:07.840 --> 00:23:11.760 This is when the surviving Jews flee to various other places, in 00:23:11.760 --> 00:23:17.360 large part to Babylon, which becomes very relevant for other reasons. 00:23:17.360 --> 00:23:21.200 Now, of course, the the Jews did also in this conflict murder 00:23:21.280 --> 00:23:25.360 basically any Christians they could find because the Christians had refused to 00:23:25.360 --> 00:23:30.000 fight against the Romans, because the Christians weren't trying to wage a 00:23:30.000 --> 00:23:32.400 rebellion against the Roman Empire, that was the Jews. 00:23:32.400 --> 00:23:34.880 So the Jews murdered a number of Christians in this as well. 00:23:34.880 --> 00:23:37.360 We'll probably never know that number. 00:23:37.360 --> 00:23:43.520 But this is also when, as a punishment, essentially the Romans set 00:23:43.520 --> 00:23:44.160 about to erase 00:23:45.120 --> 00:23:47.120 Judea from history. 00:23:47.120 --> 00:23:51.360 Not only did they destroy the towns and the fortifications and a 00:23:51.360 --> 00:23:55.680 great deal of the population, this is when Hadrian renamed the province 00:23:55.680 --> 00:23:57.920 from Judea to Palestine. 00:23:57.920 --> 00:24:02.880 That's why we have that term for the modern area, because of 00:24:03.200 --> 00:24:06.880 the consequences, the aftermath of this rebellion. 00:24:07.200 --> 00:24:12.240 One of the interesting aspects of the rebellion itself was that along 00:24:12.240 --> 00:24:15.200 with the warfare, one of the cultural things that they were trying 00:24:15.200 --> 00:24:18.560 to do was to restore the Hebrew language. 00:24:19.040 --> 00:24:21.200 They'd been speaking Aramaic and Greek. 00:24:21.200 --> 00:24:23.600 They actually had a brief period of time where they tried to 00:24:23.600 --> 00:24:27.600 repristinate the Hebrew language and that was an important part of their 00:24:27.600 --> 00:24:30.240 identity. They wanted self rule. 00:24:30.240 --> 00:24:35.440 They wanted, you know, the temple back and they wanted their ancestral 00:24:35.440 --> 00:24:38.560 language, which is something we see today. 00:24:38.560 --> 00:24:42.160 You know, that that same desire was there in 135 that we 00:24:42.160 --> 00:24:42.720 have today. 00:24:42.720 --> 00:24:45.680 And it's not inherently a bad desire, but I think it's just 00:24:45.680 --> 00:24:51.120 interesting that this was the beginning of them basically basically trying to 00:24:51.120 --> 00:24:56.160 undo nearly a thousand years of God's punishment against them. 00:24:56.160 --> 00:24:56.480 Um 00:24:58.000 --> 00:25:00.800 did you want to read the the Titus quote from the first 00:25:00.960 --> 00:25:01.840 rebellion? 00:25:02.720 --> 00:25:06.560 Yes, I think we should definitely include that Titus quote, because it 00:25:06.560 --> 00:25:09.680 is one of the best quotes in all of history. 00:25:09.680 --> 00:25:16.080 As is customary in the Roman Empire, when Titus returns victorious from 00:25:16.080 --> 00:25:18.720 conquering the Jews in that first revolt. 00:25:18.720 --> 00:25:23.360 It had started under his father Vespasian, but then because of happenings 00:25:23.360 --> 00:25:27.680 in Rome, Vespasian had returned to Rome the year before the revolt 00:25:27.680 --> 00:25:33.120 ended because Nero had committed suicide or forced his guard to kill 00:25:33.120 --> 00:25:36.160 him, whichever way that actually went, and so Vespasian went back to 00:25:36.160 --> 00:25:38.320 take over as emperor, essentially. 00:25:38.320 --> 00:25:42.800 But when Titus returned, he was He was offered the the wreath 00:25:42.800 --> 00:25:46.800 of victory, which is how they did things at the time, and 00:25:46.800 --> 00:25:48.320 he refused it. 00:25:48.320 --> 00:25:52.080 And his quote was there is no merit in vanquishing a people 00:25:52.080 --> 00:25:54.400 forsaken by their own God. 00:25:54.400 --> 00:25:58.000 He considered himself to be an instrument of divine wrath against the 00:25:58.000 --> 00:26:01.440 Jews, and that is certainly true. 00:26:01.760 --> 00:26:06.960 that is just one of the best preserved quotes in history. 00:26:07.200 --> 00:26:10.320 And on the point of the Hebrew language, Hadrian actually banned its 00:26:10.320 --> 00:26:14.560 use. He set about to erase what little of it was left. 00:26:15.040 --> 00:26:17.760 I think one of the interesting parts about the beginning of the 00:26:17.760 --> 00:26:22.560 diaspora here is that as they moved into Babylon, because of the 00:26:22.560 --> 00:26:27.280 destruction of the temple and the destruction of the priestly class, they 00:26:27.440 --> 00:26:32.160 shifted to a rabbinical school of Judaism. 00:26:32.160 --> 00:26:36.320 Basically, the Pharisees sort of continued on as rabbis in terms of 00:26:36.720 --> 00:26:39.120 the the type of teaching that was done. 00:26:39.120 --> 00:26:44.400 And this was the beginning of them shifting from the oral traditions 00:26:44.400 --> 00:26:46.560 to writing those traditions down. 00:26:46.560 --> 00:26:50.000 The Mishnah, the m the oral traditions had been passed down. 00:26:50.000 --> 00:26:51.920 They claimed from Moses Day. 00:26:51.920 --> 00:26:55.760 They claimed that God had given Moses an oral Torah, an oral 00:26:55.760 --> 00:26:57.920 law, as well as the written one. 00:26:57.920 --> 00:27:01.360 And that was a key part of their control of the religion 00:27:01.680 --> 00:27:03.760 because they were contradictory. 00:27:03.760 --> 00:27:07.680 What was written down was from God and then the oral tradition, 00:27:07.680 --> 00:27:12.080 the tradition that was secretly passed on among rabbis and then taught 00:27:12.080 --> 00:27:16.240 to the people as it was doled out contradicted scripture. 00:27:16.240 --> 00:27:18.560 And this is one of the chief battles that Jesus had with 00:27:18.560 --> 00:27:22.480 the Pharisees was that many of them, the ones who were not 00:27:22.480 --> 00:27:26.320 faithful. there were a few faithful Pharisees where they, you know, at 00:27:26.320 --> 00:27:29.600 least they were believers. 00:27:29.600 --> 00:27:35.120 The rest of them were engaging in anti scriptural behaviors and teachings 00:27:35.120 --> 00:27:36.720 as a matter of lifestyle. 00:27:36.720 --> 00:27:40.480 That was that was the Pharisaical mode. 00:27:40.480 --> 00:27:44.640 And so when it shifted over to rabbinical Judaism, one of the 00:27:44.640 --> 00:27:49.680 things they did because the central locus of the temple had been 00:27:49.680 --> 00:27:52.160 lost was they started writing stuff down. 00:27:52.160 --> 00:27:55.360 And so this is the period where we have the two Talmuds 00:27:55.360 --> 00:28:01.200 can emerge and then converge, basically writing down those oral traditions had 00:28:01.200 --> 00:28:04.320 they as they'd been passed down and it's a huge set. 00:28:04.320 --> 00:28:06.720 It's like twenty-five or thirty volumes of stuff. 00:28:06.720 --> 00:28:10.000 And it's funny when you I've I've heard a couple rabbis discussing 00:28:10.000 --> 00:28:12.560 it and they say I know when almost no one's ever read 00:28:12.560 --> 00:28:16.960 it all, which is kind of goofy for for their holy works, 00:28:16.960 --> 00:28:22.240 but because they're basically signing statements, reinterpreting whatever God said, for them, 00:28:22.240 --> 00:28:24.560 the important part is the arguing. 00:28:24.560 --> 00:28:27.040 And so it was a big shift for them to actually write 00:28:27.040 --> 00:28:28.080 any of that down. 00:28:28.080 --> 00:28:31.920 And that's another thing that we we touched on briefly last week. 00:28:31.920 --> 00:28:35.360 They'd stopped speaking Hebrew and despite the efforts and the the third 00:28:35.360 --> 00:28:37.520 revolt, Hebrew didn't come back. 00:28:37.520 --> 00:28:40.480 So when the Talmud was written down, it was written in in 00:28:40.480 --> 00:28:41.760 America Aramaic. 00:28:41.760 --> 00:28:42.640 Hebrew was gone. 00:28:42.640 --> 00:28:46.480 So when you hear about a to m Talmudic scholar, the Talmuds 00:28:46.480 --> 00:28:48.240 will look like they're written in Hebrew, they're not. 00:28:48.240 --> 00:28:50.800 It's literally Aramaic that they're reading. 00:28:50.880 --> 00:28:55.360 Yeah, full set of the English Talmud is seventy-three volumes and three 00:28:55.440 --> 00:28:56.640 thousand dollars. 00:28:58.080 --> 00:28:59.440 And a lot of pages. 00:28:59.440 --> 00:29:00.800 I remember it's like 6500. 00:29:00.800 --> 00:29:03.200 It's a lot of pages in the English. 00:29:03.840 --> 00:29:04.640 But in question is 00:29:04.720 --> 00:29:05.840 how much of that is profit 00:29:05.840 --> 00:29:07.040 margin. 00:29:09.040 --> 00:29:12.640 Uh Given this is a Jewish owned shop. 00:29:12.800 --> 00:29:14.720 But in between the 00:29:15.840 --> 00:29:21.040 end of these Roman Jewish conflicts, because Rome's power is starting to 00:29:21.040 --> 00:29:22.240 wane at this point. 00:29:22.240 --> 00:29:24.880 And this is when you have the the dissolution of the Empire 00:29:24.880 --> 00:29:27.120 into the Western and the Eastern, so you have the Byzantines. 00:29:27.120 --> 00:29:31.360 The Byzantines obviously will have control over Jerusalem for a period of 00:29:31.360 --> 00:29:36.000 time until they lose that to the invading Islamic forces in a 00:29:36.000 --> 00:29:37.840 number of centuries. 00:29:37.840 --> 00:29:39.360 But in between 00:29:40.320 --> 00:29:43.520 the Roman suppression of these revolts and 00:29:44.400 --> 00:29:48.720 really things that'll happen later on, we have an attempt by Julian 00:29:48.800 --> 00:29:52.080 the apostate to rebuild the temple. 00:29:52.080 --> 00:29:55.360 Because of course now the temple has been destroyed twice. 00:29:55.360 --> 00:30:00.240 You have the first temple is destroyed by the Babylonians, that is 00:30:00.240 --> 00:30:04.240 in five eighty six BC, and then you have, as was just 00:30:04.240 --> 00:30:11.200 mentioned, the second temple destroyed by the Romans in seventy AD. 00:30:11.200 --> 00:30:17.680 However, Julian the Apostate, who actually follows a number of faithful Christian 00:30:17.680 --> 00:30:21.680 rulers in the Byzantine Empire, he's not a Christian. 00:30:21.680 --> 00:30:24.080 That's why he's Julian the Apostate. 00:30:24.080 --> 00:30:28.720 He attempts to resurrect paganism, and so part of that he attempts 00:30:28.720 --> 00:30:30.320 to rebuild the temple. 00:30:30.320 --> 00:30:35.680 However, when the Jews, obviously eager to rebuild the temple, set about 00:30:35.840 --> 00:30:38.400 doing this task, they are met with 00:30:39.680 --> 00:30:43.200 basically complete destruction and signs from God. 00:30:43.200 --> 00:30:46.800 There is an earthquake, fire comes out of the ground and burns 00:30:46.800 --> 00:30:50.000 up workers, and they really don't get anywhere. 00:30:50.000 --> 00:30:53.280 But God makes it very clear he does not want the temple 00:30:53.280 --> 00:30:54.320 to be reconstructed. 00:30:54.320 --> 00:30:58.160 That is not something Christians most certainly should support. 00:30:58.160 --> 00:30:59.840 That is something Christians should oppose. 00:30:59.840 --> 00:31:02.720 And so the people who are sending money over to Israel to 00:31:02.720 --> 00:31:05.280 build a third temple? 00:31:05.280 --> 00:31:07.360 That is incredibly wicked. 00:31:07.360 --> 00:31:10.080 Maybe we'll see fire from the ground again. 00:31:10.080 --> 00:31:12.160 Or from the sky this time. 00:31:13.280 --> 00:31:13.920 We will have 00:31:13.920 --> 00:31:19.280 a link in the show notes to some firsthand and secondhand depictions 00:31:19.280 --> 00:31:23.360 from the that time period of accounts of what happened there. 00:31:23.360 --> 00:31:26.880 Uh the details vary slightly, but the overall theme is the same 00:31:26.880 --> 00:31:28.240 and unmistakable. 00:31:28.240 --> 00:31:32.800 There is a supernatural force preventing them from rebuilding the temple. 00:31:32.800 --> 00:31:34.480 And it included fireballs. 00:31:34.480 --> 00:31:38.480 Like we're we say supernatural natural, we're not talking about tummy aches. 00:31:38.480 --> 00:31:41.520 Men were incinerated from the ground by fire. 00:31:41.520 --> 00:31:42.960 That's not normal. 00:31:43.040 --> 00:31:43.280 Well 00:31:43.360 --> 00:31:45.840 it's a little more normal when you worship Satan. 00:31:47.440 --> 00:31:52.080 To move on to Babylon, that's really the next major point in 00:31:52.080 --> 00:31:53.840 this journey. 00:31:54.000 --> 00:31:57.600 Of course you have the Babylonian captivity of Israel, not of the 00:31:57.600 --> 00:31:59.360 Church, that's a different matter. 00:31:59.360 --> 00:32:01.120 That book is worth reading. 00:32:01.120 --> 00:32:03.520 Incidentally, that's written by Luther. 00:32:03.520 --> 00:32:08.240 But the Babylonian captivity of Israel is five hundred ninety seven BC 00:32:08.240 --> 00:32:09.600 is when that starts. 00:32:09.600 --> 00:32:13.840 And so that is when you really get the beginning of the 00:32:13.840 --> 00:32:17.600 Jewish diaspora population in Babylon. 00:32:17.600 --> 00:32:20.640 And this of course is the southern kingdom Judah, because the Assyrians 00:32:20.640 --> 00:32:25.760 were the ones that took the northern kingdom captive earlier on. 00:32:25.760 --> 00:32:29.520 But you wind up with a population of between one and two 00:32:29.520 --> 00:32:36.080 million Jews living in Babylon, which essentially modern day Iraq. 00:32:36.080 --> 00:32:39.200 This is when the Talmud really begins to take form. 00:32:39.200 --> 00:32:41.760 And as was mentioned, you have a split here because you have 00:32:41.760 --> 00:32:45.760 the Jewish population, what remains of it, in Jerusalem and the surrounding 00:32:45.760 --> 00:32:49.600 area. They produce what comes to be known as the Jerusalem Talmud, 00:32:49.600 --> 00:32:55.840 but then you have the Babylonian Talmud, which obviously produced in Babylon. 00:32:55.840 --> 00:32:59.840 This is where the Jewish schools that we still have today, and 00:32:59.840 --> 00:33:03.760 they are largely in the US and Israel, this is where they 00:33:03.760 --> 00:33:06.480 take off, the the sh the yeshiva. 00:33:06.480 --> 00:33:12.000 These are schools devoted to the study of the Talmud. 00:33:12.000 --> 00:33:16.480 And they start here in Babylon, and they spread to many other 00:33:16.480 --> 00:33:19.040 places over time. 00:33:19.040 --> 00:33:23.040 Wherever the center of Jewish power is at the time, that's where 00:33:23.040 --> 00:33:25.040 you'll find the yeshiva. 00:33:25.040 --> 00:33:27.920 And as I mentioned, today, if you are looking at where the 00:33:27.920 --> 00:33:33.360 yeshiva are concentrated, they are concentrated in Israel and in the US. 00:33:33.360 --> 00:33:39.200 But to give some historical context here, originally, when the Jews are 00:33:39.200 --> 00:33:41.680 taken captive in Babylon. 00:33:41.680 --> 00:33:46.320 They are taken captive by the Sassanid dynasty, and that is a 00:33:46.320 --> 00:33:48.640 Zoroastrian dynasty. 00:33:48.640 --> 00:33:56.400 However, during the period of this diaspora population living in this region, 00:33:56.400 --> 00:34:01.920 the Muslim conquests come through, and Zoroastrianism is erased, it's gone. 00:34:01.920 --> 00:34:08.240 However, the Muslims, for four centuries, still permit the Jews to practice 00:34:08.240 --> 00:34:12.480 their religion, to have their schools, to teach the Talmud, to do 00:34:12.480 --> 00:34:17.040 all these various things, to participate in society, in banking and coinage 00:34:17.120 --> 00:34:19.200 and various other things. 00:34:19.280 --> 00:34:22.800 Really, the sorts of things that you would expect. 00:34:22.800 --> 00:34:26.160 And so perhaps that narrative that you constantly hear of the Jews 00:34:26.160 --> 00:34:28.960 and the Muslims being arch enemies and hating each other for all 00:34:28.960 --> 00:34:35.360 time is a little more complicated than most media reports would have 00:34:35.360 --> 00:34:36.320 you think. 00:34:36.320 --> 00:34:41.680 Because this is a large Jewish population living under Muslim rulers for 00:34:41.680 --> 00:34:44.080 centuries. And this isn't the only time we'll see that. 00:34:44.080 --> 00:34:47.120 We will see this again in Europe 00:34:48.240 --> 00:34:51.040 with the Muslim Caliphate in Spain. 00:34:51.040 --> 00:34:53.200 We will see this in the Ottoman Empire. 00:34:53.200 --> 00:34:56.560 This is not something that is new, it's not something that has 00:34:56.560 --> 00:35:02.400 ceased. It still happens to this day, despite the conflict between Israel 00:35:02.400 --> 00:35:05.360 and Palestine. 00:35:05.360 --> 00:35:10.560 But to go back to the Byzantine Empire, the Eastern Roman Empire, 00:35:10.560 --> 00:35:15.120 because of course it's in the Eastern Roman Empire in Jerusalem where 00:35:15.120 --> 00:35:19.680 the other Talmud, the other version is taking shape at this point. 00:35:19.680 --> 00:35:23.440 And really it's just commentary on the Mishnah that are reduced to 00:35:23.440 --> 00:35:26.880 writing and then published. 00:35:26.880 --> 00:35:28.720 In this case, obviously copied by hand. 00:35:28.720 --> 00:35:32.160 They don't have a printing press back then. 00:35:32.160 --> 00:35:39.520 But the Eastern Empire, Christendom, really turns against the Jews in 00:35:39.520 --> 00:35:44.720 part the turning point here, the inflection point, is when Chrysostom becomes 00:35:44.720 --> 00:35:48.000 patriarch of Constantinople. 00:35:48.240 --> 00:35:51.040 And he has a number of sermons against the Jews. 00:35:51.040 --> 00:35:52.960 I will link to those in the show notes. 00:35:52.960 --> 00:35:54.480 They are worth reading. 00:35:55.440 --> 00:35:56.560 he was a good orator. 00:35:56.560 --> 00:35:59.600 He was a good a good pastor, a fairly good theologian. 00:35:59.600 --> 00:36:03.120 Obviously I would disagree with him on some things But not as 00:36:03.120 --> 00:36:06.160 much as one might think, because we'll get this eventually in an 00:36:06.160 --> 00:36:12.160 Eastern Orthodoxy episode, but what is Eastern Orthodoxy today is very different 00:36:12.160 --> 00:36:16.000 from what someone like John Chrysostom would have believed. 00:36:16.000 --> 00:36:19.360 Basically because of Palamus, but we'll get to that in a future 00:36:19.360 --> 00:36:24.240 episode. And so Chrysostom becomes patriarch in three hundred ninety eight. 00:36:24.240 --> 00:36:27.360 He has a number of sermons against the Jews. 00:36:27.360 --> 00:36:33.760 This stirs up anti-Jew sentiment among Christians, and obviously some of the 00:36:33.760 --> 00:36:36.400 other things that have happened historically because the Christians at the time 00:36:36.400 --> 00:36:38.960 were not ignorant of what the Jews had been doing, so there 00:36:38.960 --> 00:36:42.160 were other reasons for it as well. 00:36:42.160 --> 00:36:47.280 But the first emperor who really takes after Hadrian, that is, of 00:36:47.280 --> 00:36:52.000 course, who takes anti-Jew measures would be Theodosius. 00:36:52.000 --> 00:36:54.640 That would be in the fifth century. 00:36:55.760 --> 00:37:00.160 Now the Jews even to this day hate Theodosius, but if you 00:37:00.160 --> 00:37:04.560 actually look at the measures he enacted, they'll seem fairly reasonable to 00:37:04.560 --> 00:37:08.640 you. Jews were not allowed to own Christian slaves. 00:37:08.640 --> 00:37:13.280 Because of course there's a religious conflict there, and the Christian emperor 00:37:13.280 --> 00:37:17.760 did not want Jewish masters having Christian slaves. 00:37:17.760 --> 00:37:19.680 That's a problem. 00:37:19.680 --> 00:37:27.040 It also banned intermarriage between Christians and Jews, and Christians were forbidden 00:37:27.040 --> 00:37:28.960 to convert to Judaism. 00:37:28.960 --> 00:37:33.440 Those were basically the measures that he enacted, so not particularly burdensome 00:37:33.520 --> 00:37:35.600 or extensive. 00:37:35.600 --> 00:37:40.400 We have another attempt here to stamp out completely what remains of 00:37:40.400 --> 00:37:41.360 the Hebrew language. 00:37:41.360 --> 00:37:43.680 It's basically dead at this point. 00:37:43.680 --> 00:37:47.840 The Jews are still in some minor way attempting to resurrect it. 00:37:47.840 --> 00:37:53.520 And so Emperor Justinian, a short while after Theodosius, bans the use 00:37:53.520 --> 00:37:57.280 of Hebrew because he's still having trouble in his empire with rebellious 00:37:57.280 --> 00:38:01.520 Jews, and part of that if you ban the use of this 00:38:01.520 --> 00:38:05.200 language he's trying to make it harder for them to organize these 00:38:05.200 --> 00:38:07.600 problems that they are causing him. 00:38:07.600 --> 00:38:13.680 But I mentioned earlier the conquest by the Muslims, and so this 00:38:13.680 --> 00:38:16.560 moves us into the Islamic period, really. 00:38:16.560 --> 00:38:20.000 And that more or less begins with the Battle of Yarmouk in 00:38:20.080 --> 00:38:24.960 636. That's when the Muslim forces defeat the Byzantine forces, and really 00:38:25.040 --> 00:38:30.400 that's more or less the end of the hegemony of the Eastern 00:38:30.400 --> 00:38:33.520 Roman Empire in this region. 00:38:33.520 --> 00:38:39.520 And so that moves us into the Islamic period. 00:38:39.520 --> 00:38:44.000 And so Caliph Omar is the man who would ha wind up 00:38:44.000 --> 00:38:47.600 with control over Jerusalem in this period. 00:38:47.600 --> 00:38:50.400 In the Talmud he is called a friend of Israel. 00:38:50.400 --> 00:38:54.160 So again, this relationship between the Jews and the Muslims more complicated 00:38:54.720 --> 00:38:56.560 than you've probably been led to believe. 00:38:56.560 --> 00:39:00.800 They are cousins after all, scripture is very clear on that. 00:39:00.800 --> 00:39:05.680 And so Jews worked in his empire as one of the Arab 00:39:05.680 --> 00:39:11.600 historians has said, as asayers of coins, sellers of dye, tanners, and 00:39:11.600 --> 00:39:17.520 bankers, which I am sure are surprising jobs for everyone to hear. 00:39:17.520 --> 00:39:23.040 But on the topic of what we mentioned earlier, the diaspora, the 00:39:23.040 --> 00:39:27.920 nature of the diaspora starts to take form in some ways under 00:39:27.920 --> 00:39:32.960 Caliph Omar and then under his successors as well, because in the 00:39:32.960 --> 00:39:38.400 seventh century the Karaj land tax is passed, and basically that's a 00:39:38.400 --> 00:39:44.640 tax that is particularly burdensome on non Muslims who own agricultural or 00:39:44.640 --> 00:39:46.400 otherwise productive land. 00:39:46.400 --> 00:39:50.160 And so in order to avoid paying this tax, the Jews move 00:39:50.160 --> 00:39:53.680 to the cities because if you don't own productive land, you don't 00:39:53.680 --> 00:39:56.240 pay the land tax. 00:39:56.240 --> 00:39:59.920 This is of course just an instance of the standard the dhimmi 00:40:00.000 --> 00:40:05.280 or the the jizya, the tax on non-believers living in Muslim controlled 00:40:05.280 --> 00:40:11.120 lands. But this is the beginning of the concentration of the Jews 00:40:11.120 --> 00:40:16.400 almost exclusively in the cities, and we will see that pattern repeat 00:40:16.400 --> 00:40:19.920 over and over again as they move from one place to the 00:40:19.920 --> 00:40:24.160 next when they are either expelled or Or there's a new opportunity 00:40:24.160 --> 00:40:26.160 that opens up. 00:40:26.160 --> 00:40:30.400 But under this caliph and the subsequent ones, this is considered one 00:40:30.400 --> 00:40:35.120 of the golden ages, because the Jews are basically free to do 00:40:35.120 --> 00:40:35.840 as they please. 00:40:35.840 --> 00:40:38.720 They're not really burdened other than this tax, but they move into 00:40:38.720 --> 00:40:41.120 the cities, they avoid the tax. 00:40:41.120 --> 00:40:47.040 And this persists through about the year 1000. 00:40:47.040 --> 00:40:50.960 But the But the center of gravity for the Jewish people shifts 00:40:51.280 --> 00:40:57.280 from the Middle East, from the Near East, into Spain, because of 00:40:57.280 --> 00:41:02.240 course you have the Moorish conquest of Spain, and you have, for 00:41:02.240 --> 00:41:07.680 centuries, Muslims ruling European territory. 00:41:07.680 --> 00:41:12.720 And so this is considered the real golden age for the Jews 00:41:12.960 --> 00:41:15.440 in Europe, in Spain. 00:41:15.600 --> 00:41:20.400 It's important to note that the the ushering in of the Moorish 00:41:20.560 --> 00:41:26.320 Islamic age of the rule of Spain was brought upon by Jews 00:41:26.640 --> 00:41:31.360 in uh you know Spain, Toledo, uh the neighboring cities. 00:41:31.360 --> 00:41:34.080 It was Roman Catholic territory. 00:41:34.080 --> 00:41:36.560 Uh I have a a brief timeline here of some of the 00:41:36.560 --> 00:41:42.080 things that happened in Toledo and surrounds as it related to the 00:41:42.080 --> 00:41:44.320 Jews who at the time were in a minority because there were 00:41:44.320 --> 00:41:47.840 some Jews living there in the 500s and 600s. 00:41:47.840 --> 00:41:52.400 In 558, the bishop ordered the Jews of his diocese to convert 00:41:52.400 --> 00:41:56.000 to Catholicism, and those who didn't were expelled from the region. 00:41:56.000 --> 00:42:00.000 In six thirty three, the fourth council of Toledo describes the Jews 00:42:00.000 --> 00:42:04.560 who were allegedly proselytizing their beliefs as the Antichrist ministers. 00:42:04.560 --> 00:42:08.160 So again consistent with Christmas, Christian preaching was that 00:42:09.200 --> 00:42:11.600 these people are evil. 00:42:12.400 --> 00:42:17.840 that's not calling names, that's a doctrinal position supported incidentally by scripture, 00:42:17.840 --> 00:42:20.160 and we'll get to that in a couple minutes. 00:42:20.160 --> 00:42:23.360 Also in six hundred thirty three the fourth council of Toledo declared 00:42:23.360 --> 00:42:27.280 that all Jews must be baptized, that is forcibly converted. 00:42:27.280 --> 00:42:30.720 In six hundred fifty four the King of Toledo forbade Jews from 00:42:30.720 --> 00:42:34.800 keeping the Sabbath, forbade their dietary laws, their marriage laws, and forbade 00:42:35.200 --> 00:42:39.200 circumcision, which again is banning their religion outright. 00:42:39.200 --> 00:42:42.640 It was illegal effectively to practice Judaism. 00:42:42.640 --> 00:42:45.680 And in six ninety four the Catholic bishops issued a decree that 00:42:45.680 --> 00:42:49.520 the Jews were traitors and should have their wealth confiscated and face 00:42:49.520 --> 00:42:53.600 perpetual slavery, which, as Cory just said, is a significantly worse deal 00:42:53.600 --> 00:42:56.720 than they were getting from the Muslims, whom we are told are 00:42:56.720 --> 00:42:59.680 their bitter hereditary enemies. 00:42:59.680 --> 00:43:04.640 Interesting. Hereditary enemy is a word the Luther later uses, in fact 00:43:04.720 --> 00:43:08.480 in the Lutheran uh confessions, to describe the Muslims. 00:43:08.480 --> 00:43:15.680 Yet the hereditary nature of the Jewish Muslim relationship is frequently quite 00:43:15.680 --> 00:43:21.600 friendly. And this came to a head in 711 when Tariq brought 00:43:21.600 --> 00:43:24.080 his army to Toledo to try to crush it. 00:43:24.320 --> 00:43:29.040 They were trying to to capture Spain for the caliphate. 00:43:29.040 --> 00:43:33.200 Jewish traders opened the gates of Toledo, let the Muslim soldiers in, 00:43:33.200 --> 00:43:36.080 so there was no siege, there was no siege of Toledo, there 00:43:36.080 --> 00:43:37.600 was no battle. 00:43:37.600 --> 00:43:41.360 There was There was the gates were open by Jews who were 00:43:41.360 --> 00:43:45.920 traitors to their town, led in the Muslims, and they conquered it 00:43:46.000 --> 00:43:47.280 in short order. 00:43:47.280 --> 00:43:51.440 And basically all of Spain fell not very long thereafter. 00:43:51.440 --> 00:43:52.640 And that confirmed. 00:43:53.200 --> 00:43:59.280 that Muslims had lasted until the the fifteenth century. 00:43:59.280 --> 00:44:04.160 And not only did the Jews help the Muslims to conquer their 00:44:04.160 --> 00:44:08.960 Christian rulers, but the Muslims put the Jews in charge of some 00:44:08.960 --> 00:44:10.080 of these cities. 00:44:10.080 --> 00:44:14.160 So they were basically left a second in command beneath the Muslims, 00:44:14.160 --> 00:44:16.800 but over the Christians. 00:44:16.800 --> 00:44:19.440 This was a pattern, as Corey said, this is a pattern that 00:44:19.440 --> 00:44:21.040 played out in multiple places. 00:44:21.040 --> 00:44:24.560 So we talked at the beginning about there being you know malfeasance 00:44:24.640 --> 00:44:27.120 and and misconduct by this group. 00:44:27.120 --> 00:44:30.720 There There's always this pattern where wherever there are Jews and there 00:44:30.720 --> 00:44:35.440 are Christians, the Christians end up being harmed somehow, whether it's, you 00:44:35.440 --> 00:44:39.840 know, soft harm like usury or hard harm, like having the gates 00:44:39.840 --> 00:44:42.880 thrown open so that your enemies can come in and slaughter you. 00:44:42.880 --> 00:44:45.120 But that pattern is very clear. 00:44:45.120 --> 00:44:48.880 And Muslims and Jews in fact to this day work together. 00:44:48.880 --> 00:44:52.000 It's most people don't remember this, but when ISIS was a thing 00:44:52.080 --> 00:44:56.480 briefly and they were causing trouble At one point, they killed some 00:44:56.480 --> 00:44:59.520 IDF soldiers and they put out a public apology. 00:44:59.520 --> 00:45:04.080 They apologized for killing Israeli soldiers, which isn't what you would expect 00:45:04.080 --> 00:45:06.720 from Muslim terrorists seeking a caliphate. 00:45:06.720 --> 00:45:09.600 And yet if you understand more of history, it's not quite that 00:45:09.600 --> 00:45:13.520 weird. And behind the scenes even today, Saudi Arabia and Israel are 00:45:13.520 --> 00:45:14.640 very close friends. 00:45:14.640 --> 00:45:17.120 They are they work together in lockstep. 00:45:17.120 --> 00:45:20.560 And when you see breakdowns in their relations, it's because one Saudi 00:45:20.560 --> 00:45:25.440 Arabian the sheikhs or whoever when they are ebbing and flowing and 00:45:25.440 --> 00:45:30.400 they have their internal conflicts, they will sometimes side more or less 00:45:30.400 --> 00:45:32.240 with Israel than others. 00:45:32.240 --> 00:45:36.720 But when it comes to them versus Christendom, there's no doubt. 00:45:36.720 --> 00:45:37.520 They're cousins. 00:45:37.520 --> 00:45:40.080 And so they have their battles as cousins, but when it comes 00:45:40.080 --> 00:45:43.760 to dealing with Christians, there's no question who's gonna get the knife 00:45:43.760 --> 00:45:44.480 first. 00:45:44.560 --> 00:45:44.800 The 00:45:44.800 --> 00:45:49.360 Middle Eastern proverb really just plays out again and again and again, 00:45:49.360 --> 00:45:51.840 and everyone should know it by now. 00:45:51.840 --> 00:45:55.200 They and they will admit to it, this is their proverb. 00:45:55.200 --> 00:45:58.160 They know this about themselves. 00:45:58.160 --> 00:46:01.760 Me against my brother, me and my brother against my father, me 00:46:01.840 --> 00:46:05.200 my brother and my father against my uncle, me, my brother, my 00:46:05.200 --> 00:46:08.960 father, my uncle against and it just goes up from there, until 00:46:08.960 --> 00:46:11.760 it's against the world. 00:46:11.760 --> 00:46:14.880 That is how they view things, that is how they behave. 00:46:14.880 --> 00:46:18.560 And that is why the Jews and the Muslims will get along 00:46:18.560 --> 00:46:20.400 to attack Christians. 00:46:20.400 --> 00:46:25.440 Because they're cousins, but they're not your cousin. 00:46:25.440 --> 00:46:29.680 And so with the conquest of Spain in seven eleven through ten 00:46:29.760 --> 00:46:33.120 thirty one, this is considered one of the golden ages of the 00:46:33.120 --> 00:46:36.480 Jewish people by the Jewish people. 00:46:36.480 --> 00:46:41.360 Because as was mentioned, the Muslims basically let them practice their religion, 00:46:41.360 --> 00:46:46.480 set up their schools, in some cases collect taxes, bank, deal with 00:46:46.480 --> 00:46:49.840 the money, and oppress Christians. 00:46:49.840 --> 00:46:52.800 And so this is a golden age for the Jews. 00:46:52.800 --> 00:46:57.440 It's also incidentally where a bit of that rootless cosmopolitan nature comes 00:46:57.440 --> 00:47:02.160 from. Because they're just moving around from city to city as the 00:47:02.160 --> 00:47:03.360 opportunity opens up. 00:47:03.360 --> 00:47:08.640 There's no real connection to a specific geographic area, and the reason 00:47:08.640 --> 00:47:13.920 for that is because God destroyed them in their homeland. 00:47:13.920 --> 00:47:18.560 He made them into rootless cosmopolitans he made them into a diaspora 00:47:18.720 --> 00:47:23.520 people who wander endlessly because they are not at home anywhere, because 00:47:23.520 --> 00:47:26.080 that is a punishment from God. 00:47:26.080 --> 00:47:28.480 So we mentioned last week that we would get to the s 00:47:28.640 --> 00:47:31.600 the star of David, so called this week. 00:47:31.600 --> 00:47:35.360 Uh it ties in both to the very beginning of the first 00:47:35.520 --> 00:47:39.600 century all the way through the the tenth and eleventh century AD. 00:47:39.600 --> 00:47:41.680 So I think this is a good place to mention it because 00:47:41.840 --> 00:47:43.920 also ties in with Islam. 00:47:45.040 --> 00:47:47.280 I'm going to read back from scripture again. 00:47:47.280 --> 00:47:49.760 We're going to bounce back to scripture just a bit. 00:47:49.760 --> 00:47:57.200 In Acts 7, around 743, Stephen is preaching to the Jews 00:47:57.600 --> 00:48:01.360 and he is speaking of Moses here. 00:48:01.360 --> 00:48:04.240 Moses received living oracles to give to us. 00:48:04.240 --> 00:48:07.920 Our fathers refused to obey him, but thrust him aside, and in 00:48:07.920 --> 00:48:11.680 their hearts they turned to Egypt, saying to Aaron, make us gods 00:48:11.680 --> 00:48:13.680 who will be will go from before us. 00:48:13.680 --> 00:48:16.000 As for this Moses who led us out from the land of 00:48:16.000 --> 00:48:18.640 Egypt, we do not know what has become of him. 00:48:18.640 --> 00:48:21.520 And they made a calf in those days and offered a sacrifice 00:48:21.520 --> 00:48:25.040 to the idol and were rejoicing in the works of their hands, 00:48:25.040 --> 00:48:29.120 but God turned away and gave them over to worship the host 00:48:29.120 --> 00:48:32.320 of heaven, as it is written in the book of the prophets, 00:48:32.320 --> 00:48:34.560 and this is from Amos. 00:48:34.560 --> 00:48:38.160 Did you bring me slain beasts and sacrifices during the forty years 00:48:38.160 --> 00:48:40.160 in the wilderness, O house of Israel? 00:48:40.160 --> 00:48:43.040 You took up the tent of Moloch, and the star of your 00:48:43.040 --> 00:48:46.800 God Raphan, the images that you made to worship, and I will 00:48:46.800 --> 00:48:49.680 send you into exile beyond Babylon. 00:48:49.680 --> 00:48:53.600 And then a little while later in this sermon, Stephen says, You 00:48:53.600 --> 00:48:58.240 stiff necked people, uncircumcised and hardened ears, you always resist the Holy 00:48:58.240 --> 00:49:00.640 Spirit. As your fathers did, so do you. 00:49:00.640 --> 00:49:03.520 Which of the prophets did your fathers not persecute? 00:49:03.520 --> 00:49:06.560 And they killed those who announced beforehand the coming of the righteous 00:49:06.560 --> 00:49:10.080 one, whom you have now betrayed and murdered, you who received the 00:49:10.080 --> 00:49:13.200 law as delivered by angels and did not keep it. 00:49:13.200 --> 00:49:16.880 I Almost immediately after saying this, Stephen is murdered. 00:49:16.880 --> 00:49:20.480 He's martyred by this crowd of Jews to whom he's preaching. 00:49:20.480 --> 00:49:23.280 So a couple things I want to want to note and then 00:49:23.280 --> 00:49:24.080 focus on. 00:49:24.080 --> 00:49:27.600 First, it's notable that if you go back and read Amos twenty 00:49:27.600 --> 00:49:29.760 about twenty five and twenty-six. 00:49:29.760 --> 00:49:33.760 You'll find some different wording than you find here in Acts. 00:49:33.760 --> 00:49:35.920 When it says the tent of Moloch and the star of your 00:49:35.920 --> 00:49:39.200 God Rafan, it says something different in Amos, uh the stars of 00:49:39.200 --> 00:49:41.520 Kyun. I don't remember what the tent was. 00:49:42.160 --> 00:49:46.000 The reason for that difference is that Stephen is quoting the Septuagint. 00:49:46.000 --> 00:49:48.400 He's quoting the Greek Old Testament. 00:49:48.400 --> 00:49:52.080 So when you look at the Greek it says Moloch and Raphan 00:49:52.240 --> 00:49:52.960 or Remphan. 00:49:52.960 --> 00:49:55.840 It's said both ways or translated both ways. 00:49:55.840 --> 00:49:59.600 The words that appear in this verse in Amos twenty six only 00:49:59.600 --> 00:50:03.040 appear one time in that verse, so we don't have other parallax 00:50:03.120 --> 00:50:03.440 for it. 00:50:03.440 --> 00:50:06.080 They're hapks logomona. 00:50:06.080 --> 00:50:08.640 I think that's interesting because it highlights what we said last week 00:50:08.800 --> 00:50:10.880 that Hebrew is a dead language. 00:50:10.880 --> 00:50:14.560 Although you can now look at the Hebrew of Amos today, when 00:50:14.560 --> 00:50:18.640 Stephen was preaching, he didn't use the Hebrew, he used the Greek. 00:50:18.880 --> 00:50:22.560 More importantly, note what's going on here. 00:50:22.560 --> 00:50:27.600 When Stephen is condemning these Jews to their faces, he is telling 00:50:27.600 --> 00:50:32.160 them that they're idolaters, and specifically that their god was the a 00:50:32.160 --> 00:50:35.600 star god, the star of their god Raphan. 00:50:35.600 --> 00:50:41.440 He's making a direct connection between the idol worship, the Satan worship 00:50:41.520 --> 00:50:45.040 of the Jews before him, and the Satan worship of the Jews 00:50:45.040 --> 00:50:46.880 who came out of Egypt. 00:50:46.880 --> 00:50:49.360 And this passage makes very clear when you go read it. 00:50:49.360 --> 00:50:54.800 Go read Acts 7:20, uh 743, and in that area. 00:50:54.800 --> 00:51:01.200 Stephen makes very clear that the Jews in Moses day, they were 00:51:01.200 --> 00:51:05.520 idolaters, not one hundred percent of them, but their God, and God 00:51:05.520 --> 00:51:09.360 turned them over to their God, to the host of heaven. 00:51:09.920 --> 00:51:12.240 Now, when you hear that and you're not really paying attention, you 00:51:12.400 --> 00:51:14.640 think turn them over to worship the host of heaven. 00:51:14.640 --> 00:51:15.920 Kind of sounds like God. 00:51:15.920 --> 00:51:18.880 No, he's talking about a star. 00:51:18.880 --> 00:51:20.880 He's talking about the star god. 00:51:20.880 --> 00:51:24.960 And so this has to do with the Star of David, because 00:51:24.960 --> 00:51:26.240 there's no such thing. 00:51:26.240 --> 00:51:30.160 The that symbol, that hexagram, is called both the star of David 00:51:30.160 --> 00:51:31.760 and the Shield of David. 00:51:31.760 --> 00:51:38.400 It does not exist in any Judaic practice until 1008 AD. 00:51:38.400 --> 00:51:44.320 The Leningrad Codex, which is a Tanakh that's preserved in Russia today, 00:51:44.320 --> 00:51:46.160 is over a thousand years old. 00:51:46.160 --> 00:51:52.480 It is the first connection between the hexagram and the Jewish or 00:51:52.480 --> 00:51:54.240 Judaic faith. 00:51:54.240 --> 00:51:58.160 This is critical because we do have other art from much earlier. 00:51:58.160 --> 00:52:01.280 We have art from the before the first century and we have 00:52:01.280 --> 00:52:06.560 depictions of stars in the first century and second and third century. 00:52:06.560 --> 00:52:10.080 The stars that they're talking about are not a star of David, 00:52:10.080 --> 00:52:14.560 they have nothing to do with the Jewish faith, so-called. 00:52:14.560 --> 00:52:20.160 They come from mysticism, specifically from Babylonian mysticism. 00:52:20.160 --> 00:52:25.600 And so the hexagram, which is effectively a triangle pointed up and 00:52:25.600 --> 00:52:28.960 a triangle pointed down. 00:52:29.200 --> 00:52:32.960 That's notable because it's it's pointing two different directions, it's pointing up 00:52:32.960 --> 00:52:34.480 and down. 00:52:34.480 --> 00:52:34.800 That 00:52:35.760 --> 00:52:40.080 is an allusion to as above, so below, which is a satanic 00:52:40.080 --> 00:52:41.520 term that's used to this day. 00:52:41.520 --> 00:52:44.400 Satan worshippers today will use some of these symbols. 00:52:44.400 --> 00:52:48.000 In fact they use the hexagram, the so called star of David, 00:52:48.000 --> 00:52:50.640 as one of their symbols. 00:52:50.960 --> 00:52:53.840 Corey and I debated even talking about this subject because the Because 00:52:53.840 --> 00:52:57.120 the the problem with when you start to delve into 00:52:58.560 --> 00:53:04.000 mysticism and these occult practices, there's a certain type of person who's 00:53:04.000 --> 00:53:05.920 vulnerable to that, who's weak to that. 00:53:05.920 --> 00:53:07.920 You know, there's some men where a pretty girl can walk by 00:53:08.000 --> 00:53:09.520 and they just don't even care. 00:53:09.520 --> 00:53:13.440 But if some occult if there's a whip of of occult information, 00:53:13.440 --> 00:53:16.160 of occult knowledge, that is tempting. 00:53:16.160 --> 00:53:19.200 So when we're talking about this, I don't want anyone to be 00:53:19.200 --> 00:53:21.840 tempted by wanting to delve into these things. 00:53:21.840 --> 00:53:25.600 So if you're listening and you hear was talking about Babylonian magic 00:53:25.920 --> 00:53:31.360 and this mysticism and it gets you excited, take that as a 00:53:31.360 --> 00:53:33.840 sign of that as a personal spiritual weakness of yours and just 00:53:33.840 --> 00:53:35.520 don't go anywhere near it. 00:53:35.520 --> 00:53:37.600 I'm warning you for the sake of your soul. 00:53:37.600 --> 00:53:39.840 This is how men some men are tempted. 00:53:39.840 --> 00:53:41.440 Some men are completely indifferent. 00:53:41.440 --> 00:53:44.320 Like I can look into some of this stuff because it makes 00:53:44.320 --> 00:53:47.600 my skin crawl and I look as little as possible and I 00:53:47.600 --> 00:53:50.720 learn as little as possible, just enough to be able to identify 00:53:50.720 --> 00:53:54.080 the basic patterns to say, yeah, that's enemy action. 00:53:54.080 --> 00:53:57.280 So we're gonna talk a little bit about and we're gonna reference 00:53:57.280 --> 00:53:59.840 another podcast that goes into a little bit more. 00:53:59.840 --> 00:54:01.840 We're not recommending everyone look at this. 00:54:01.840 --> 00:54:05.120 And if you in particular are enthused about these things, just keep 00:54:05.120 --> 00:54:06.080 away, please. 00:54:06.480 --> 00:54:07.440 it's not worth it. 00:54:07.440 --> 00:54:08.320 It doesn't matter. 00:54:08.320 --> 00:54:10.880 They're much more important things to focus on. 00:54:10.880 --> 00:54:13.920 The reason for talking about the Star of Raphan as it relates 00:54:13.920 --> 00:54:17.600 to the so-called Star of David is that there are ancient ties 00:54:17.920 --> 00:54:23.040 to the Satan worship of the Israelites in Egypt. 00:54:23.040 --> 00:54:26.560 When you look at this symbol, the hexagram, that the what we 00:54:26.560 --> 00:54:29.680 call what we think is the star of David today, it first 00:54:29.680 --> 00:54:34.080 appears in around the first century, but it has no connection whatsoever 00:54:34.080 --> 00:54:35.360 to Judaism. 00:54:35.520 --> 00:54:37.520 The first connections that it has are to 00:54:38.400 --> 00:54:45.120 alchemy, to Babylonian magic, which ties back to Egyptian magic through the 00:54:45.120 --> 00:54:51.120 Greeks. It ties to Kabbalah, which is Jewish mysticism and it also 00:54:51.120 --> 00:54:52.960 ties to Muslim mysticism. 00:54:52.960 --> 00:54:57.200 I found that very interesting that both Jewish and Muslim mysticism, most 00:54:57.200 --> 00:54:59.920 people don't even know that Muslim mysticism exists. 00:54:59.920 --> 00:55:02.480 It does and it uses these very symbols. 00:55:02.480 --> 00:55:07.280 So So the star of David is an occult symbol, and the 00:55:07.280 --> 00:55:12.720 only place in scripture that a star appears is directly connected to 00:55:12.720 --> 00:55:16.320 a star god, a star god from Egypt. 00:55:16.320 --> 00:55:20.000 We're going to link to an podcast that's defunct now, which is 00:55:20.080 --> 00:55:23.280 SAG is a really good, uh called Not Conformed. 00:55:23.280 --> 00:55:26.000 Uh they did a four part series at one point talking about 00:55:26.000 --> 00:55:28.800 some of the occult and some of the history of some of 00:55:28.800 --> 00:55:30.000 this evil stuff. 00:55:30.000 --> 00:55:33.680 We're just gonna link to the last episode in that series because 00:55:33.680 --> 00:55:40.400 it goes the most directly into discussing Babylonian era and Egyptian era 00:55:40.720 --> 00:55:46.720 magic. I'm gonna say something that might surprise some people, but black 00:55:46.720 --> 00:55:48.480 magic is real. 00:55:48.480 --> 00:55:54.480 When Pharaoh had his magicians performing magic in front of Moses, they 00:55:54.480 --> 00:55:56.320 were really doing those things. 00:55:56.320 --> 00:55:59.040 Now, to say that black magic is real is not to say 00:55:59.040 --> 00:56:00.160 that these men had power. 00:56:00.160 --> 00:56:01.200 They had no power. 00:56:01.200 --> 00:56:02.560 They were demon-possessed. 00:56:02.560 --> 00:56:04.400 Demons were doing those things. 00:56:04.400 --> 00:56:07.840 So when we talk about magic, we're talking about supernatural. 00:56:07.840 --> 00:56:10.240 None of this has anything to do with what any man can 00:56:10.240 --> 00:56:13.520 do. It's not like if you have certain knowledge you can gain 00:56:13.520 --> 00:56:17.200 psychic abilities or the ability to levitate or do any of these 00:56:17.200 --> 00:56:22.240 things. In the event that any sort of supernatural phenomena appears, you're 00:56:22.240 --> 00:56:22.560 dealing with 00:56:23.600 --> 00:56:28.880 demons. There's no other way to describe it. 00:56:28.880 --> 00:56:34.320 And it's clear when Moses is doing battle with the magicians of 00:56:34.320 --> 00:56:38.960 Pharaoh that he's dealing directly with gods, their gods, their demonic gods, 00:56:38.960 --> 00:56:42.080 the ten miracles that he does, that 00:56:43.120 --> 00:56:46.960 each of them is an overthrowing symbolically of one of the gods 00:56:46.960 --> 00:56:49.120 of the Egyptians, who were demons. 00:56:49.120 --> 00:56:54.400 All those those physical depictions of them and the descriptions of their 00:56:54.400 --> 00:56:58.560 habits and their tendencies and their domains some of that's not going 00:56:58.560 --> 00:57:01.040 to be true, but some of it is absolutely real. 00:57:01.280 --> 00:57:05.920 There are demons associated with each of those Egyptian gods. 00:57:05.920 --> 00:57:09.760 And interestingly, a lot of those pop up in other cultures too. 00:57:09.760 --> 00:57:14.400 They'll have sometimes similar names, sometimes different names, but it's not simply 00:57:14.400 --> 00:57:16.880 that they were worshipped in Egypt. 00:57:16.880 --> 00:57:19.760 The reason that Egypt is so important, the reason that it pops 00:57:19.760 --> 00:57:22.240 up in the episode that we're going to link to is that 00:57:22.960 --> 00:57:26.640 as you look at modern day magic, like people who are actually 00:57:26.640 --> 00:57:28.560 practicing what they believe is real 00:57:29.440 --> 00:57:34.880 supernatural communion with these deities, these demons, they will trace back through 00:57:34.880 --> 00:57:39.040 Babylon, they will trace through the Greeks, who remember in Alexand when 00:57:39.120 --> 00:57:39.920 Alexander conquered 00:57:40.800 --> 00:57:45.840 Egypt, the Greeks were then running Egypt and so much of the 00:57:45.840 --> 00:57:52.240 scholarship, much of the recordings of Egyptian magic is in Greek because 00:57:52.880 --> 00:57:55.280 when the Greeks showed up, they're like, Oh, this is great. 00:57:55.520 --> 00:57:57.600 we can have control of these demons now. 00:57:57.600 --> 00:58:02.320 So today the men who look back, they look through Babylonia, they 00:58:02.320 --> 00:58:05.760 look in Greek, back to what the Egyptians were doing thirty five 00:58:05.760 --> 00:58:08.320 hundred years ago. 00:58:08.320 --> 00:58:14.880 It's notable that the Freemasons and other similar secret societies also trace 00:58:14.880 --> 00:58:17.760 their lineage back to Egypt. 00:58:18.000 --> 00:58:20.800 Everyone wants roots in Egypt for this stuff. 00:58:20.800 --> 00:58:23.360 And today, if you're not paying any attention, you don't care. 00:58:23.360 --> 00:58:24.960 And frankly, most people shouldn't care. 00:58:24.960 --> 00:58:26.640 I'm not saying be excited about this stuff. 00:58:26.640 --> 00:58:28.640 Please don't be excited. 00:58:28.640 --> 00:58:31.680 But if you begin to look at all and you begin to 00:58:31.680 --> 00:58:34.960 look at things like the pentagram and the hexagram, you'll find that 00:58:34.960 --> 00:58:41.120 they're all directly connected to demonic spiritual practices in these ages. 00:58:41.120 --> 00:58:43.760 And they all trace back to the very time. 00:58:43.920 --> 00:58:48.800 Like remember when when Stephen is quoting Amos and describing what happened 00:58:49.040 --> 00:58:52.160 while Moses is up on the mountain, this isn't centuries later. 00:58:52.560 --> 00:58:58.720 Stephen and and Amos are specifically describing what happened with the Jews 00:58:58.720 --> 00:59:02.400 at the base of the mountain when they told Aaron to make 00:59:02.400 --> 00:59:07.120 that golden calf for them, pointing back to their Egyptian gods, and 00:59:07.120 --> 00:59:13.520 God condemns them for worshiping their star god of Raphan, that's Egyptian. 00:59:13.520 --> 00:59:14.560 At least that old. 00:59:14.560 --> 00:59:15.680 We don't know how much older it is. 00:59:16.000 --> 00:59:18.880 They're demons, so they were created during the sixth days of creation, 00:59:18.880 --> 00:59:22.800 but their interaction with the Jews at least goes back to the 00:59:22.800 --> 00:59:23.840 days of Egypt. 00:59:23.840 --> 00:59:24.800 And so when we have these 00:59:25.840 --> 00:59:30.240 evil satanic magic symbols that today are called the Star of David, 00:59:30.240 --> 00:59:32.720 and they're in some of our churches, and most people think it's 00:59:32.720 --> 00:59:33.040 just fine. 00:59:33.040 --> 00:59:34.800 They think it's hunky dory. 00:59:34.800 --> 00:59:39.360 It did not exist anywhere as any sort of religious symbol that 00:59:39.360 --> 00:59:43.600 was not occult until one thousand and eight AD. 00:59:43.600 --> 00:59:47.680 And then it was on a Tanakh that had been produced by 00:59:47.680 --> 00:59:51.440 these wicked apostate Jews who had been cursed by God a thousand 00:59:51.440 --> 00:59:52.720 years earlier. 00:59:52.720 --> 00:59:53.040 So 00:59:54.240 --> 00:59:58.960 the star of David is important as a small microcosm of how 00:59:58.960 --> 00:59:59.840 we're deceived. 00:59:59.840 --> 01:00:02.000 And we talked last week about how we were deceived into thinking 01:00:02.000 --> 01:00:03.680 that Jesus was speaking Hebrew. 01:00:03.680 --> 01:00:07.280 No. And we're also told that the Star of David is is 01:00:07.280 --> 01:00:08.960 this ancient symbol of Israel. 01:00:09.120 --> 01:00:11.920 You call it the Star of David, like, okay, great, David's he's 01:00:11.920 --> 01:00:12.640 a long time ago. 01:00:12.880 --> 01:00:13.680 that's super Jewish. 01:00:13.600 --> 01:00:14.560 Jewish stuff. 01:00:14.560 --> 01:00:16.400 No, they didn't have it. 01:00:16.400 --> 01:00:20.800 It did exist as a magic symbol for demon summoning. 01:00:20.800 --> 01:00:23.120 And so when you see flags and you see symbols in our 01:00:23.200 --> 01:00:27.040 own churches today that have that, it's still demonic. 01:00:27.040 --> 01:00:30.240 There's not there's not a good version and a bad version. 01:00:30.240 --> 01:00:33.520 There is only the evil version because it's an evil symbol, just 01:00:33.520 --> 01:00:35.920 as the cross is a good symbol. 01:00:35.920 --> 01:00:39.840 So symbolism is a small thing, but believe me, it matters a 01:00:39.840 --> 01:00:43.280 great deal to people who are hiding stuff because one of the 01:00:43.280 --> 01:00:46.960 most important and common things that Satan likes to do is hide 01:00:46.960 --> 01:00:48.480 this crap in plain sight. 01:00:48.480 --> 01:00:52.080 There's a little signal somewhere just to wet people's appetite and to 01:00:52.080 --> 01:00:54.800 signal to people who are People who are in the know that 01:00:54.880 --> 01:00:56.240 this is what's going on. 01:00:56.720 --> 01:01:00.160 And these symbols, these occult symbols are all connected. 01:01:00.160 --> 01:01:05.120 You are going to find them all throughout ancient mysticism, particularly in 01:01:05.120 --> 01:01:09.840 this region, another that you will find constantly constantly is the all 01:01:10.000 --> 01:01:11.360 seeing eye. 01:01:11.360 --> 01:01:16.400 You're going to find that in connection with these other symbols. 01:01:16.400 --> 01:01:21.760 One in particular still used in this region modernly is the Hamza, 01:01:21.760 --> 01:01:26.640 which is an all seeing eye in the palm of a hand. 01:01:26.640 --> 01:01:29.040 You've probably seen that symbol in various places. 01:01:29.040 --> 01:01:34.160 It's a favourite of Hollywood and various other questionable entities. 01:01:34.160 --> 01:01:38.880 But this is also connected to worship of Baal, this is connected 01:01:38.880 --> 01:01:40.480 to Carthage. 01:01:40.480 --> 01:01:42.480 You see this all throughout this region. 01:01:42.480 --> 01:01:45.600 Satan recycles the symbols he uses. 01:01:45.600 --> 01:01:49.920 There are symbols that represent God, there are symbols that represent Satan, 01:01:49.920 --> 01:01:52.560 and you are going to see them in any culture that is 01:01:52.560 --> 01:01:55.360 worshiping Satan. 01:01:55.360 --> 01:01:59.920 And that is the case with the so-called Star of David, the 01:01:59.920 --> 01:02:02.320 star of Remfan, you can have an M in there or not, 01:02:02.320 --> 01:02:04.480 it's rendered both ways. 01:02:04.480 --> 01:02:04.800 And 01:02:06.960 --> 01:02:12.640 the Star of Remfan and the pentagram are essentially interchangeable, in many 01:02:12.640 --> 01:02:14.480 cases in the occult. 01:02:14.480 --> 01:02:16.080 So it's important to think of that. 01:02:16.080 --> 01:02:19.120 It's important to recognize that when you see one it may as 01:02:19.120 --> 01:02:20.160 well be the other. 01:02:20.160 --> 01:02:23.120 Sometimes you'll see both together or you'll see a coin with one 01:02:23.120 --> 01:02:25.920 on one side of the One side and one on the other. 01:02:25.920 --> 01:02:30.000 But we don't want to dwell on the occult too much. 01:02:30.000 --> 01:02:33.840 But yes, it does of course trace back to Egypt, and to 01:02:33.840 --> 01:02:37.360 tie that together with Egypt, you have the Eye of Horus, which 01:02:37.440 --> 01:02:40.000 of course is an all seeing eye. 01:02:40.000 --> 01:02:43.760 But before getting into the occult, it was mentioned that in Spain 01:02:44.000 --> 01:02:48.640 at the pi in the period before the Muslim conquest, the Jews 01:02:48.640 --> 01:02:53.680 were being forced to become Christian or in some cases be exiled, 01:02:53.680 --> 01:02:58.080 some of the Jews, it is worth noting, committed suicide rather than 01:02:58.080 --> 01:02:59.360 be baptized. 01:02:59.360 --> 01:03:03.040 And that ties into the next section in the history of this, 01:03:03.040 --> 01:03:05.280 which would be the crusades. 01:03:05.280 --> 01:03:10.640 Because during the crusades there were some pogroms against the Jews, and 01:03:10.640 --> 01:03:15.600 this was for various reasons, often related to the lending practices of 01:03:15.600 --> 01:03:18.400 the Jews. 01:03:18.400 --> 01:03:22.640 Because, of course, those who are in a great deal of debt 01:03:22.640 --> 01:03:26.240 due to predatory lending practices are not going to think very highly 01:03:26.240 --> 01:03:27.440 of the lender. 01:03:27.440 --> 01:03:32.640 And as was mentioned, Christians, there's this additional layer to it, because 01:03:32.640 --> 01:03:37.760 these were Christians Christians are not permitted to lend at interest, and 01:03:37.760 --> 01:03:41.360 yes, I recognize how that is going to sound to anyone living 01:03:41.360 --> 01:03:45.360 in a capitalist society, which basically means anyone listening to this podcast. 01:03:45.360 --> 01:03:50.640 I doubt anyone listening is from a society that is not capitalist 01:03:50.960 --> 01:03:55.280 in its orientation economically. 01:03:56.000 --> 01:04:00.480 But Christians are not permitted morally to charge interest. 01:04:00.480 --> 01:04:01.360 That's usury. 01:04:01.360 --> 01:04:03.200 Usery is not excessive interest. 01:04:03.200 --> 01:04:06.000 Usery is interest, period. 01:04:06.240 --> 01:04:09.920 And so at this time, this was actually enforced in Christian lands. 01:04:09.920 --> 01:04:13.280 Christians were not allowed to charge interest. 01:04:13.280 --> 01:04:16.000 And so if you lent money, you got back the principal, and 01:04:16.000 --> 01:04:16.640 that was it. 01:04:16.640 --> 01:04:19.040 If you got the principal back. 01:04:19.680 --> 01:04:22.160 Jews were not subject to this. 01:04:22.160 --> 01:04:23.600 They weren't Christian. 01:04:23.600 --> 01:04:26.400 And so as was mentioned, it was, well, they're already going to 01:04:26.400 --> 01:04:28.800 hell, so why not make it a little worse for them and 01:04:28.800 --> 01:04:30.000 make money in the process? 01:04:30.000 --> 01:04:32.720 Of course that was sin on the part of the Christian leaders. 01:04:32.720 --> 01:04:36.480 Getting someone else to sin for you is still sin. 01:04:36.480 --> 01:04:40.960 Yes, that person is sinning, but you're also sinning by proxy, and 01:04:41.920 --> 01:04:45.440 in your own person, by encouraging others to sin. 01:04:45.440 --> 01:04:48.720 You know, temp temptations will come, but woe to the person by 01:04:48.720 --> 01:04:51.520 whom they come. 01:04:51.520 --> 01:04:55.760 And so you have in the lead up to the crusades, as 01:04:55.760 --> 01:04:59.840 they're organizing these armies in Europe, some of the Jewish populations are 01:04:59.840 --> 01:05:02.480 purged or expelled. 01:05:02.480 --> 01:05:06.960 Before we saw in Spain, some of the Jews committed suicide to 01:05:06.960 --> 01:05:09.040 avoid being baptized. 01:05:09.040 --> 01:05:14.160 In some of the instances where the crusaders were dealing with a 01:05:14.160 --> 01:05:17.680 Jewish population, they would forcibly baptize them. 01:05:17.680 --> 01:05:22.000 And again, some of the Jews committed suicide rather than be baptized. 01:05:22.000 --> 01:05:24.000 This is how much they hate God, this is how much they 01:05:24.000 --> 01:05:25.120 hate Christ. 01:05:25.120 --> 01:05:29.840 They would rather commit suicide than be baptized. 01:05:29.840 --> 01:05:32.880 We won't dwell too much on the Crusades, because that's not really 01:05:32.880 --> 01:05:36.400 the the point of this episode, so we'll move on to the 01:05:36.400 --> 01:05:39.200 the Middle Ages, which really is the 01:05:40.080 --> 01:05:44.320 last significant time period before early modern, and then next week we'll 01:05:44.320 --> 01:05:46.480 get into the modern. 01:05:46.480 --> 01:05:51.680 But during the Middle Ages, you have an increase in passion plays 01:05:51.920 --> 01:05:55.680 and and various things like that that depict the Jews in their 01:05:55.680 --> 01:05:59.520 proper role in the narrative, which is to say, as the killers 01:05:59.520 --> 01:06:00.720 of Christ. 01:06:00.720 --> 01:06:06.000 And they were depicted often in modern dress instead of traditional dress 01:06:06.240 --> 01:06:09.360 because Jews during the Middle Ages in many places had to wear 01:06:09.360 --> 01:06:13.680 special clothing to note that you were dealing with a Jew. 01:06:13.680 --> 01:06:17.040 In some places this took the form of a yellow star. 01:06:17.040 --> 01:06:19.120 We see that star symbol again. 01:06:19.120 --> 01:06:22.640 In some places it took the form of a special hat. 01:06:22.640 --> 01:06:25.440 They still have special hats today, but they're different from the ones 01:06:25.440 --> 01:06:28.240 they wore in the Middle Ages. 01:06:28.240 --> 01:06:31.360 But this of course leads to an increase or at least an 01:06:31.760 --> 01:06:37.040 increased awareness, at least to this increase in anti-Jew sentiment amongst the 01:06:37.040 --> 01:06:41.760 Christian population, because they start paying more attention to what the Jews 01:06:41.760 --> 01:06:45.760 are actually doing And again, they're doing these things that Christians are 01:06:45.760 --> 01:06:47.280 explicitly forbidden to do. 01:06:47.280 --> 01:06:51.760 Things that these Christians are told are wicked, are sins. 01:06:51.760 --> 01:06:53.520 They're lending at interest. 01:06:53.520 --> 01:06:57.520 And you have various controversies with coin shaving and things like that, 01:06:57.520 --> 01:07:00.560 because often they were the ones handling the currency, and so sometimes 01:07:00.560 --> 01:07:03.040 they were expelled for coin shaving. 01:07:05.120 --> 01:07:07.040 But this is really when 01:07:08.320 --> 01:07:12.400 the trope of the Jewish moneylender solidifies itself. 01:07:12.400 --> 01:07:16.320 Yes, you had it earlier because they also did moneylending in the 01:07:16.320 --> 01:07:17.360 Byzantine Empire. 01:07:17.360 --> 01:07:19.200 They dealt with currency in the Roman Empire. 01:07:19.200 --> 01:07:21.280 You saw Jewish tax collectors. 01:07:21.280 --> 01:07:25.520 They played the same role in the Islamic Empire for a period 01:07:25.520 --> 01:07:27.280 of time. 01:07:27.280 --> 01:07:30.720 But here in Europe they are the only ones doing it because 01:07:30.720 --> 01:07:34.000 Christians are forbidden to do it. 01:07:34.000 --> 01:07:38.480 And so if you had to borrow money, which you probably didn't 01:07:38.480 --> 01:07:41.600 have to borrow money, but if you are a prince and you 01:07:41.600 --> 01:07:43.840 want to wage a war and you need to raise an army 01:07:43.920 --> 01:07:46.560 and you don't have the gold on hand, you go to the 01:07:46.560 --> 01:07:51.120 Jewish money lender and he lends you the gold at interest. 01:07:51.120 --> 01:07:53.840 And so that's where you get the stereotype. 01:07:53.840 --> 01:07:58.560 Stereotypes, of course, being grounded in reality because they don't come from 01:07:58.560 --> 01:08:03.440 nowhere. A stereotype would be entirely useless if it weren't based in 01:08:03.440 --> 01:08:04.400 reality to some degree. 01:08:04.400 --> 01:08:07.840 It doesn't mean that there's a perfect correspondence between the stereotype and 01:08:07.840 --> 01:08:12.480 members of the stereotyped group, but there's some correspondence. 01:08:12.480 --> 01:08:16.720 When Germans are called Krautz, okay yes, we like cabbage. 01:08:16.720 --> 01:08:18.400 We also like sausage and beer. 01:08:18.400 --> 01:08:20.640 Those are stereotypes, but they're true. 01:08:20.640 --> 01:08:22.720 The Irish like potatoes. 01:08:22.720 --> 01:08:25.600 But in fairness, who doesn't? 01:08:25.840 --> 01:08:30.080 But this is also when we see quite a few expulsions of 01:08:30.080 --> 01:08:32.560 the Jews from various places in Europe. 01:08:32.560 --> 01:08:34.960 And you don't just have expulsions from countries. 01:08:34.960 --> 01:08:36.240 It's important to remember that. 01:08:36.240 --> 01:08:39.520 Because a number that gets tossed around sometimes is one hundred and 01:08:39.600 --> 01:08:42.800 nine or one hundred ten or eleven, depending on how you number 01:08:42.800 --> 01:08:45.680 things, the number is much higher. 01:08:45.680 --> 01:08:48.640 Because that's essentially counting the number of times Jews have been kicked 01:08:48.640 --> 01:08:51.600 out of countries or large areas. 01:08:51.600 --> 01:08:53.360 But Europe in the Middle Ages 01:08:54.560 --> 01:08:57.920 wasn't really large countries yet. 01:08:57.920 --> 01:09:01.760 You didn't have the nation states that you have today, you didn't 01:09:01.680 --> 01:09:02.640 have Germany. 01:09:02.640 --> 01:09:05.680 You had an area full of Germans, you didn't have Germany. 01:09:05.680 --> 01:09:10.320 You had You had various cities ruled by princes or electors or 01:09:10.320 --> 01:09:11.600 counts or margraves. 01:09:11.600 --> 01:09:14.400 It just depended on the era and where you were. 01:09:14.400 --> 01:09:18.880 And sometimes these political entities, because that was the highest political entity, 01:09:18.880 --> 01:09:24.240 other than the actual emperor himself, who wasn't dealing with the everyday 01:09:24.480 --> 01:09:27.760 of any of the cities really, except for perhaps an imperial city 01:09:27.840 --> 01:09:29.840 if he happened to be there. 01:09:30.160 --> 01:09:34.400 these smaller political entities would expel the Jews, And they would expel 01:09:34.560 --> 01:09:40.320 them for the things already mentioned: shenanigans and money lending, oppressive taxation 01:09:40.400 --> 01:09:45.360 where they were tax collectors, coin shaving, all of the things you 01:09:45.360 --> 01:09:49.360 expect. However, This is also 01:09:50.320 --> 01:09:55.600 when stories of child sacrifice and things like that start cropping up 01:09:55.600 --> 01:09:56.160 in Europe. 01:09:56.160 --> 01:10:01.280 They've appeared at other points in time in history related to the 01:10:01.280 --> 01:10:04.720 Jewish people and related to other pagans as well. 01:10:04.720 --> 01:10:08.480 You see it in the pages of Scripture, where Scripture speaks about 01:10:08.480 --> 01:10:12.800 them sacrificing their sons and their daughters to the demons. 01:10:12.800 --> 01:10:17.360 Well this resumes to some level to some degree in Europe, and 01:10:17.360 --> 01:10:21.120 so you have the depiction, for instance, I cannot remember the the 01:10:21.120 --> 01:10:25.520 child's name now, the famous saint who's depicted in artwork having been 01:10:25.520 --> 01:10:27.360 sacrificed by the Jews. 01:10:27.520 --> 01:10:31.520 Recognized as a saint by the Church at the time, the Pope 01:10:31.520 --> 01:10:36.640 himself, at this time a better pope than we certainly have today, 01:10:36.640 --> 01:10:41.200 actually recognized this the sacrifice of a Christian child to use his 01:10:41.200 --> 01:10:49.120 blood in the preparation of elements for Jewish ceremony, most likely matzah, 01:10:49.120 --> 01:10:50.640 or something similar. 01:10:51.040 --> 01:10:54.720 We'll include the the famous painting in the show notes. 01:10:54.720 --> 01:10:58.160 I cannot remember the child's name right now. 01:10:58.160 --> 01:11:01.920 But as I mentioned, you have the symbols associated with the Jews 01:11:02.000 --> 01:11:05.520 where they're set apart, you have the the yellow star here, which 01:11:05.520 --> 01:11:09.680 is really when the star becomes solidified as a symbol associated with 01:11:09.680 --> 01:11:12.320 the Jewish people, this this six pointed star. 01:11:12.400 --> 01:11:14.640 It's also a symbol that they were using themselves. 01:11:14.640 --> 01:11:17.360 It wasn't merely a an epithet. 01:11:17.360 --> 01:11:18.720 It was it was something they 01:11:19.200 --> 01:11:20.480 used publicly. 01:11:20.880 --> 01:11:24.640 So to return to Spain, because Spain, of course, is still during 01:11:24.640 --> 01:11:27.680 this period, being ruled by the Moslems. 01:11:27.680 --> 01:11:31.840 The Moslems were expelled in fourteen ninety two in January. 01:11:31.840 --> 01:11:36.880 You probably remember that year from the rhyme you learned in school. 01:11:36.880 --> 01:11:41.520 But that gives you an idea of how recently Muslims were ruling 01:11:41.520 --> 01:11:45.120 a fairly a fairly large and important part of Europe, and so 01:11:45.120 --> 01:11:51.200 they were expelled, and as part of that, Jews were also required 01:11:51.200 --> 01:11:55.360 to convert because the Jews had been, under the Muslims, permitted to 01:11:55.360 --> 01:12:00.880 remain Jewish and practice their religion, and teach in their schools, study 01:12:00.880 --> 01:12:02.400 the Talmud, etc. 01:12:02.720 --> 01:12:09.600 Now that Christian rulers took over that territory again, resumed control over 01:12:09.600 --> 01:12:15.200 Spain, they were not going to tolerate the Jews, partly because the 01:12:15.200 --> 01:12:18.720 Jews had cooperated with the Muslims, but also because the Jews are 01:12:18.720 --> 01:12:22.720 pagans. And tolerating a wicked pagan faith is not something that a 01:12:22.720 --> 01:12:25.200 Christian ruler is supposed to do. 01:12:25.200 --> 01:12:28.160 And so many of the Jews fled, they went to various other 01:12:28.160 --> 01:12:32.560 places, some went back to the Middle East or the Near East. 01:12:32.560 --> 01:12:37.520 But this is where you see again the rootless cosmopolitan nature where 01:12:37.520 --> 01:12:41.440 they simply flee to the next place where there's an opportunity. 01:12:42.560 --> 01:12:46.560 This is part Partly where we begin to see a concentration of 01:12:46.560 --> 01:12:49.600 the European Jewish population in Poland. 01:12:49.600 --> 01:12:55.280 And later on, Poland will have the highest Jewish population in Europe. 01:12:55.360 --> 01:12:55.600 I 01:12:55.600 --> 01:12:57.600 think it's important to know the the 01:12:58.800 --> 01:13:03.840 Spanish nexus to Jewish history is important just because among the many 01:13:03.840 --> 01:13:07.600 tropes that we've discussed here today, you know, they're called tropes, which 01:13:07.600 --> 01:13:09.680 is kind of a story unto itself. 01:13:09.680 --> 01:13:14.080 How come something that is true and factual and pattern-based, suddenly just 01:13:14.080 --> 01:13:16.160 sort of becomes oh it's just goofy, it's trope. 01:13:16.160 --> 01:13:18.160 I don't you know, I mean it's that's silly, why would you 01:13:18.160 --> 01:13:19.200 say that? 01:13:19.200 --> 01:13:23.440 The Spanish Inquisition has a pretty bad brand, doesn't it? 01:13:23.440 --> 01:13:24.160 It's a joke. 01:13:24.160 --> 01:13:25.200 It's a punchline. 01:13:25.200 --> 01:13:28.000 And And we know it's one of the worst things that's ever 01:13:28.000 --> 01:13:31.840 happened, but n most people don't know the details, starting with the 01:13:31.840 --> 01:13:34.640 fact that it wasn't the first and only inquisition. 01:13:34.640 --> 01:13:39.360 There was an Episcopis, there's a papal inquisition, basically, when the Roman 01:13:39.360 --> 01:13:44.320 Catholic Church needed to stamp out heresies, they began an Inquisition. 01:13:44.320 --> 01:13:48.800 And so the Spanish Inquisition was in this place and time in 01:13:48.800 --> 01:13:56.320 Spain where there had been these Spanish Jewish conversos who were 01:13:56.800 --> 01:13:58.320 living as Christians. 01:13:58.640 --> 01:14:03.600 they had been Jewish, they had publicly converted to Christianity, and yet 01:14:03.600 --> 01:14:07.440 there was widespread evidence that many of them were not in fact 01:14:07.520 --> 01:14:13.040 Christian. And so the Spanish Inquisition, you know, that sounds so scary, 01:14:13.040 --> 01:14:17.680 that was simply looking at particularly the Jews in that place who 01:14:17.680 --> 01:14:21.520 had claimed to have converted Christianity to see if they actually had. 01:14:21.520 --> 01:14:26.000 Were they still in secret practicing their true religion while lying and 01:14:26.000 --> 01:14:30.000 pretending to be Christians for the benefits that accrued to them because 01:14:30.000 --> 01:14:34.080 you had different social standing, they had different tax status, different political 01:14:34.080 --> 01:14:37.760 rights. It was easier for you if you're a Christian, because Spain 01:14:37.760 --> 01:14:39.920 was once again a Christian country. 01:14:39.920 --> 01:14:42.800 And so it's interesting when you hear Spanish Inquisition, you think, You 01:14:42.800 --> 01:14:47.200 think one is terrible and when you hear that they were targeting 01:14:47.200 --> 01:14:50.320 Jews, you think, well that must mean they were going after all 01:14:50.320 --> 01:14:51.120 Jews. No. 01:14:51.120 --> 01:14:54.240 It was saying if you claim to be a Christian and your 01:14:54.240 --> 01:14:57.040 ancestry is Jewish, we want to make sure you're actually Christian. 01:14:57.920 --> 01:15:02.560 Because the false Christians, they knew from experience from things like the 01:15:02.560 --> 01:15:06.320 gates of Toledo, that if you have a group of these Jews 01:15:06.320 --> 01:15:10.000 in your country pretending to be on your side, at some point 01:15:10.080 --> 01:15:13.120 there's a very good chance they're gonna stab you in the back. 01:15:13.120 --> 01:15:16.400 And so it was wisdom on the part of the Roman Catholic 01:15:16.400 --> 01:15:20.560 Church, which c couple of Lutherans saying this, like, we're not fans 01:15:20.560 --> 01:15:24.640 of these guys in principle, but as a matter of managing a 01:15:24.640 --> 01:15:27.760 country, you know, it's also a separate question which of this should 01:15:27.760 --> 01:15:30.720 be church authority versus state authority. 01:15:30.720 --> 01:15:33.520 And frankly, that's why they didn't go after the Jews and the 01:15:33.520 --> 01:15:35.840 Muslims who were practicing openly. 01:15:35.840 --> 01:15:38.960 This was This was specifically within the church, that's where the Inquisition 01:15:38.960 --> 01:15:39.840 had its power. 01:15:39.840 --> 01:15:43.440 It wasn't principally, even in this case, a political matter. 01:15:43.440 --> 01:15:47.600 It was one of purifying the church of false converts. 01:15:47.600 --> 01:15:51.920 And so yes, again there was a diaspora from there because some 01:15:52.080 --> 01:15:52.880 were found out. 01:15:52.880 --> 01:15:56.080 Like it you you hear the story, oh, they they were looking 01:15:56.080 --> 01:15:57.360 for crypto Jews. 01:15:57.360 --> 01:15:58.240 Did they find any? 01:15:58.240 --> 01:15:59.760 Yes. They found a lot of them. 01:15:59.760 --> 01:16:02.640 And a lot more fled people who had said, Oh yes, I'm 01:16:02.640 --> 01:16:04.960 Christian. I used to be Jewish, but you know, my family was 01:16:04.960 --> 01:16:06.400 Jewish. I'm Christian now. 01:16:06.400 --> 01:16:10.400 As soon as the Spanish Inquisition began, they fled. 01:16:11.200 --> 01:16:13.040 Why would a Christian leave? 01:16:13.040 --> 01:16:17.920 That's it's obvious the the Spanish Inquisition worked, which is why it's 01:16:17.920 --> 01:16:21.120 one of those things that has such a bad brand today. 01:16:21.120 --> 01:16:23.520 It's a it's something again, it's a punchline. 01:16:23.520 --> 01:16:26.800 It's a punchline because it was sold to us as a punchline 01:16:26.960 --> 01:16:29.840 by the people that it was going after. 01:16:33.280 --> 01:16:39.760 Notably that took place after the expulsion of the Jews from Spain. 01:16:39.760 --> 01:16:43.760 That was one of the early things that the Christian rulers did 01:16:43.760 --> 01:16:47.760 after they had reconquered Spain in March of the same year that 01:16:47.760 --> 01:16:49.920 they actually drove the Muslims out. 01:16:49.920 --> 01:16:55.440 They issued the edict expelling, notably practicing Jews. 01:16:55.440 --> 01:17:00.160 So Jews who had converted actually converted to Christianity were not expelled. 01:17:00.160 --> 01:17:01.840 It was only practicing Jews. 01:17:01.840 --> 01:17:03.360 They were expelling pagans. 01:17:03.360 --> 01:17:07.280 They were doing something that is entirely within the rights and in 01:17:07.280 --> 01:17:10.800 fact the duty of a Christian ruler. 01:17:11.360 --> 01:17:14.240 We will have a link in the show notes to a list 01:17:14.240 --> 01:17:19.120 of a thousand thirty expulsions of the Jews from both countries and 01:17:19.120 --> 01:17:21.040 regions and towns. 01:17:21.040 --> 01:17:25.040 And there are dates and places and you can see some patterns, 01:17:25.040 --> 01:17:26.160 you know, in different places. 01:17:26.160 --> 01:17:29.520 At some point they're expelled from Germany, some place point they were 01:17:29.520 --> 01:17:30.960 expelled from England. 01:17:31.760 --> 01:17:33.200 It happened over and over again. 01:17:33.200 --> 01:17:34.480 And I think one of the 01:17:36.240 --> 01:17:38.800 as we mentioned earlier, one of the themes that I I hope 01:17:38.800 --> 01:17:40.960 you'll kind of get a sense of is 01:17:41.840 --> 01:17:46.160 if a particular group of people continually gets expelled by everyone that 01:17:46.640 --> 01:17:51.120 they encounter, at some point you have to stop wondering why are 01:17:51.120 --> 01:17:54.800 they persecuting the Jews and start wondering what is it about these 01:17:54.800 --> 01:17:57.440 people that no one wants to live around them. 01:17:57.440 --> 01:17:59.840 You know, if you have a kid who gets expelled from a 01:17:59.840 --> 01:18:03.200 hundred and nine schools, at some point you stop wondering if there's 01:18:03.200 --> 01:18:05.680 a problem with the school and start wondering if maybe there's a 01:18:05.680 --> 01:18:07.200 problem with the kid. 01:18:07.200 --> 01:18:11.760 That's why these this pattern is interesting, is that everywhere they went, 01:18:11.760 --> 01:18:13.760 eventually they wore out their welcome. 01:18:13.760 --> 01:18:19.360 Particularly there's no other like there are other diaspora populations in history. 01:18:19.360 --> 01:18:22.960 There are other places where we've had cities and confrontations of a 01:18:23.520 --> 01:18:26.800 majority race and then a minority race. 01:18:26.800 --> 01:18:28.720 And by and large they've coexisted. 01:18:28.720 --> 01:18:32.560 There obviously been flare ups and places, but the only race in 01:18:32.560 --> 01:18:36.880 human history that it has that's had this particular pattern is the 01:18:36.880 --> 01:18:40.080 Jews. And so it's okay to say that. 01:18:40.080 --> 01:18:43.680 It's okay to look and say, I wonder why this historical fact 01:18:43.680 --> 01:18:44.800 is true. 01:18:44.800 --> 01:18:47.680 I I hope that as Corey and I are discussing these subjects 01:18:47.680 --> 01:18:50.880 in general, you can get the sense that it's possible to talk 01:18:50.880 --> 01:18:52.960 about facts without hating people. 01:18:52.960 --> 01:18:54.960 That's one of the tricks that's been played. 01:18:54.960 --> 01:19:00.320 When something gets categorized as racism and hatred, what does that do? 01:19:00.320 --> 01:19:02.160 It just means you can't talk about anything. 01:19:02.320 --> 01:19:04.240 Well, we're just talking about history here. 01:19:04.240 --> 01:19:07.920 We're talking about historical facts, things that happened in our own homelands. 01:19:07.920 --> 01:19:10.640 You know, Europe is our homeland, not Spain in particular. 01:19:10.640 --> 01:19:14.640 I have one Spanish ancestor from the third century, but he was 01:19:14.640 --> 01:19:18.560 actually he was a Roman consul who ruled part of Judea at 01:19:18.560 --> 01:19:20.400 the at the very end of the Roman Empire. 01:19:20.400 --> 01:19:22.080 Uh I only know that because I think he was one of 01:19:22.080 --> 01:19:23.600 Charlemagne's ancestors. 01:19:23.600 --> 01:19:26.400 So if you're Western European you're descended from that guy too, so 01:19:26.400 --> 01:19:29.920 you have a you have a drop of spl Spanish blood. 01:19:29.920 --> 01:19:34.480 But the point is that Christians can speak faithfully without engaging in 01:19:34.480 --> 01:19:41.360 hate, without engaging in slander or desiring unchristian outcomes by talking about 01:19:41.520 --> 01:19:45.920 historical facts and then looking at the present because the Jews today 01:19:45.920 --> 01:19:47.280 claim all of this. 01:19:47.280 --> 01:19:49.360 They claim that these are their people. 01:19:49.360 --> 01:19:53.520 They claim all of these events and say, that's us because they 01:19:53.520 --> 01:19:58.720 wanna subscribe to the persecution, to the eternal victimhood of having been 01:19:58.720 --> 01:20:01.920 hated everywhere they went and saying, Oh poor us. 01:20:01.920 --> 01:20:03.520 I I believe that most of my life. 01:20:03.520 --> 01:20:06.160 Like, okay, wow, I mean some people get a raw deal. 01:20:06.160 --> 01:20:08.880 I think we all know somebody who just keeps getting kicked. 01:20:08.880 --> 01:20:09.920 It happens sometimes. 01:20:10.000 --> 01:20:12.240 It's not necessarily that person's fault. 01:20:12.240 --> 01:20:16.240 But when the preponderance of evidence is so overwhelming, at some point 01:20:16.320 --> 01:20:18.800 it's okay to just say what's really going on here. 01:20:18.800 --> 01:20:22.000 That's why we began in scripture with this and as we see 01:20:22.160 --> 01:20:28.320 the intersection between Jewish malfeasance and Christian rulers trying to be faithful 01:20:28.320 --> 01:20:30.960 and ruling their lands is overwhelming. 01:20:30.960 --> 01:20:32.640 It's the constant pattern. 01:20:32.640 --> 01:20:34.960 As Corey said earlier, as we said when we're talking about the 01:20:34.960 --> 01:20:39.520 Muslims and the Jews, whenever there's a Jew in the picture and 01:20:39.520 --> 01:20:43.200 there's a Christian in the picture, the Christian is gonna end up 01:20:43.200 --> 01:20:45.520 on the short end of the stick. 01:20:45.520 --> 01:20:47.920 It just that's what that's the pattern. 01:20:47.920 --> 01:20:51.520 We don't have to project into the future and say all this 01:20:51.520 --> 01:20:52.960 is always going to happen forever. 01:20:52.960 --> 01:20:56.320 We can say wherever these people are, the same thing keeps happening. 01:20:56.320 --> 01:20:57.280 That's a fact. 01:20:57.280 --> 01:21:01.360 And it's possible and permissible for a Christian to learn something from 01:21:01.360 --> 01:21:02.800 that and say, you know what? 01:21:02.800 --> 01:21:06.000 If the same people keep doing something, maybe I need to look. 01:21:06.000 --> 01:21:10.320 If we do thirty-five episodes in a dozen of them point specifically 01:21:10.320 --> 01:21:13.680 to Jews who've caused horrific problems that were bad enough that we 01:21:13.680 --> 01:21:15.920 needed to talk about in an episode. 01:21:15.920 --> 01:21:18.800 That's not us doing a podcast about Jews. 01:21:18.800 --> 01:21:21.920 That's doing a podcast about Christian issues. 01:21:21.920 --> 01:21:26.480 And when Jews keep turning up, that becomes a Christian issue. 01:21:26.480 --> 01:21:30.400 And what we do in response is also a Christian issue. 01:21:30.400 --> 01:21:35.680 You cannot hate people, you can't despise people, you can't malign people, 01:21:35.680 --> 01:21:39.120 but you can and must deal with them as they are. 01:21:39.120 --> 01:21:43.680 And when people to this day dance in the blood of Christ, 01:21:43.680 --> 01:21:47.920 that's not only a religious matter, but it's also a political matter 01:21:48.080 --> 01:21:50.880 in the event that you've actually have a Christian nation, obviously we 01:21:50.880 --> 01:21:54.320 don't today, and we'll probably get into the the history of why 01:21:54.320 --> 01:21:57.600 that is at some point, but I I hope that by presenting 01:21:57.600 --> 01:22:02.400 these these topics in a calm and polite fashion, we can get 01:22:02.400 --> 01:22:06.800 across that these forbidden subjects have been forbidden for a reason. 01:22:06.800 --> 01:22:09.920 Because when you actually tell someone the history of what happened, it 01:22:09.920 --> 01:22:13.600 completely shit changes your perspective on the question. 01:22:13.600 --> 01:22:15.840 And just changing the perspective is the point. 01:22:15.840 --> 01:22:18.320 I don't want anyone to conclude that I want to go out 01:22:18.320 --> 01:22:19.760 and hurt a group of people. 01:22:19.760 --> 01:22:20.640 I don't think that. 01:22:20.640 --> 01:22:22.240 I don't want others to think that. 01:22:22.240 --> 01:22:26.800 I do want people to understand that when something keeps happening, we 01:22:26.800 --> 01:22:29.600 can expect that maybe in the future we should be aware of 01:22:29.600 --> 01:22:31.120 that. That's all. 01:22:31.680 --> 01:22:35.920 that's common sense, it's wisdom, and it's frankly love for our own 01:22:35.920 --> 01:22:39.040 neighbors. It's love for our own blood to make sure that these 01:22:39.040 --> 01:22:41.440 things don't happen to our people. 01:22:41.440 --> 01:22:41.680 To 01:22:41.680 --> 01:22:45.760 be clear, because this question will definitely come up if we do 01:22:45.760 --> 01:22:50.560 not address it right now, you are not permitted as a Christian 01:22:50.720 --> 01:22:54.880 to hate someone on the basis of race, which is what Wo 01:22:55.200 --> 01:23:00.880 just said, however, you are required as a Christian to hate God's 01:23:00.880 --> 01:23:04.720 enemies. There's a distinction there. 01:23:04.720 --> 01:23:08.720 Just like scripture tells us to turn the other cheek, we can 01:23:08.720 --> 01:23:11.920 get into the exegesis of that exactly what it means. 01:23:11.920 --> 01:23:14.080 But there are lines here. 01:23:14.080 --> 01:23:16.720 There are different categories, and it is important to keep them clear. 01:23:16.720 --> 01:23:22.400 For instance, if you are persecuted on the basis of your faith, 01:23:22.400 --> 01:23:25.520 you are to bear up under that persecution. 01:23:25.520 --> 01:23:31.680 That is a trial, and it is your duty to withstand that 01:23:31.680 --> 01:23:35.440 trial, to suffer for the gospel, to bear your cross. 01:23:35.440 --> 01:23:40.400 However, in the political realm, if you have people invading your country 01:23:40.400 --> 01:23:44.640 and causing problems, that's a political question, that's an entirely different matter. 01:23:44.640 --> 01:23:48.160 You're not turning the other cheek there, because there you have duties, 01:23:48.160 --> 01:23:53.280 particularly as a man, to defend your family and your nation. 01:23:53.280 --> 01:23:57.200 When it comes to personal enemies, you really shouldn't have a personal 01:23:57.200 --> 01:24:00.080 enemy. I've said before, I don't have any personal enemies. 01:24:00.080 --> 01:24:01.120 I absolutely mean that. 01:24:01.360 --> 01:24:06.000 I don't have anyone I consider a personal enemy. 01:24:06.000 --> 01:24:10.960 However, you most certainly do have enemies as a Christian. 01:24:10.960 --> 01:24:12.560 The world is your enemy. 01:24:12.640 --> 01:24:16.640 Satan is your enemy, the fallen flesh is your enemy. 01:24:16.640 --> 01:24:20.240 Those who stand against God are your enemy. 01:24:20.240 --> 01:24:23.120 And that is right, and you are to hate them. 01:24:23.120 --> 01:24:25.520 In the words of Scripture you are to have a perfect hatred 01:24:26.160 --> 01:24:27.760 for them. 01:24:27.840 --> 01:24:31.040 I think probably the best example of that in this case is 01:24:31.360 --> 01:24:35.680 learning about this is what we'll probably wind up with here the 01:24:35.680 --> 01:24:40.640 trial of the Talmud or the disputation of Paris under King Louis 01:24:40.640 --> 01:24:47.920 IX in 1240, when a former Jew named Nicholas Donan 01:24:48.320 --> 01:24:51.520 came forward and said, I used to be a Jew, now I'm 01:24:51.440 --> 01:24:54.720 a Christian, let me tell you what's in the Talmud. 01:24:54.720 --> 01:25:00.560 And effectively r the response from from Louis, I should have said 01:25:00.560 --> 01:25:04.240 Louis, not Louis, King Louis, and and the other people even in 01:25:04.240 --> 01:25:06.640 the church was so what's the Talmud? 01:25:06.640 --> 01:25:09.920 We like they they knew that it existed and they knew that 01:25:09.920 --> 01:25:14.320 it was interpretive of the Tanakh of of the Old Testament, but 01:25:14.320 --> 01:25:16.160 they didn't know its contents. 01:25:16.160 --> 01:25:18.720 And so what happened was this man 01:25:19.840 --> 01:25:24.800 put forth 35 separate elements of the Talmud and said, this is 01:25:24.800 --> 01:25:28.320 blasphemous, this is evil, this is what these people are teaching in 01:25:28.320 --> 01:25:32.880 their synagogues in secret, which incidentally is something that Chrysostom had been 01:25:32.880 --> 01:25:35.200 complaining about nine hundred years previously. 01:25:35.200 --> 01:25:37.840 He was no fan of synagogues because of what went on in 01:25:38.000 --> 01:25:41.040 it. And I think that's one of the the tricks that gets 01:25:41.040 --> 01:25:44.000 played when all these questions are framed in terms of so called 01:25:44.000 --> 01:25:48.000 anti Semitism, suddenly it just becomes something you have to flee from 01:25:48.080 --> 01:25:51.840 without even looking at what you were trying to address in the 01:25:51.840 --> 01:25:52.640 first place. 01:25:52.640 --> 01:25:57.280 Chrysasome gets called the arch anti Semite, and the one who turned 01:25:57.280 --> 01:25:59.120 Christians against the Jews. 01:25:59.120 --> 01:26:03.280 Well, Chrysostom was honest about what they were teaching in synagogues. 01:26:03.280 --> 01:26:06.960 And then nine hundred years later, when Donan came forward and said 01:26:07.120 --> 01:26:10.560 before King Louis the Ninth, here is what is going on in 01:26:10.560 --> 01:26:11.360 the Talmud. 01:26:11.360 --> 01:26:15.120 Here's what these people are preaching and teaching in secret, because at 01:26:15.120 --> 01:26:19.280 the time the Talmud only existed in Aramaic or Hebrew, I don't 01:26:19.200 --> 01:26:21.440 know which one they were using at the time, but no one 01:26:21.440 --> 01:26:23.360 read it unless they were Hebrew. 01:26:23.360 --> 01:26:26.320 So it was only because he had been raised a Jew that 01:26:26.320 --> 01:26:28.320 he was able to translate it and he did. 01:26:28.320 --> 01:26:30.800 And that is when the real problem started. 01:26:30.800 --> 01:26:35.360 Because the Christians knew that yes, the Jews were not 01:26:37.040 --> 01:26:40.080 Saved. They knew that they were of a different religion, but they 01:26:40.080 --> 01:26:42.640 believed essentially the Judeo-Christian myth. 01:26:42.640 --> 01:26:46.400 They believed that these Jews who claim the Old Testament and ignore 01:26:46.400 --> 01:26:49.200 the new the new, they're still pretty okay people. 01:26:49.200 --> 01:26:51.840 Maybe they have some issues, but we can coexist with them. 01:26:51.840 --> 01:26:54.640 They're not an immediate threat to Christianity. 01:26:54.640 --> 01:26:57.440 What came out in the trial of the Talmud was that the 01:26:57.440 --> 01:27:01.120 contents of the Talmud itself are utter blasphemy, and they're not only 01:27:01.120 --> 01:27:05.200 utter blasphemy, but they're a direct political threat to Christians. 01:27:05.200 --> 01:27:09.600 It talks about things that are political, not simply religious matters. 01:27:09.600 --> 01:27:12.560 Says you can lie, you can cheat, you can murder a gentile, 01:27:12.720 --> 01:27:14.160 the Goyem, us. 01:27:14.160 --> 01:27:19.680 If you're not a Jew, the rules for what is legal, mm, 01:27:19.680 --> 01:27:21.520 some of them just go away. 01:27:21.520 --> 01:27:24.240 And those were the practices that they had always held because those 01:27:24.240 --> 01:27:25.040 are their teachings. 01:27:25.040 --> 01:27:28.480 The Talmud and before that, the Mishnah, when it was oral and 01:27:28.480 --> 01:27:34.000 not written, said here's what the scriptures actually teach, here's what the 01:27:34.000 --> 01:27:37.520 law actually says, and they were teaching and to this day teach 01:27:37.520 --> 01:27:42.000 in the Talmud that the law permits horrific abuses and in some 01:27:42.000 --> 01:27:47.840 cases murder of Christians and other non Jews just because they're not. 01:27:47.840 --> 01:27:51.680 And so as that was exposed, this was in many ways is 01:27:51.680 --> 01:27:54.960 the beginning of a lot of the real problems for Jews in 01:27:54.960 --> 01:27:59.120 Europe. Now, it wasn't that there was false preaching and it wasn't 01:27:59.120 --> 01:28:00.560 there was preaching of hatred. 01:28:00.560 --> 01:28:02.960 It was simply that a man who knew what they were preaching 01:28:02.960 --> 01:28:06.000 and saying in secret stood up and said, Hey, did you know 01:28:06.000 --> 01:28:06.960 they're saying this stuff? 01:28:06.960 --> 01:28:12.000 And when Christians heard it, they were incensed, justifiably so 01:28:12.720 --> 01:28:12.880 To 01:28:12.880 --> 01:28:15.760 be clear, we haven't even said some of the worst things that 01:28:15.760 --> 01:28:17.280 are in the Talmud. 01:28:17.280 --> 01:28:21.040 Maybe eventually we'll get around to an episode on some of the 01:28:21.040 --> 01:28:25.040 actual contents of those volumes, and it is in fact more wicked 01:28:25.040 --> 01:28:29.600 than you imagined, unless you've spent time looking into it. 01:28:29.600 --> 01:28:31.520 This is a good point. 01:28:31.520 --> 01:28:33.440 This is a good place to note 01:28:34.560 --> 01:28:37.520 there are basically no other people on the planet who hold a 01:28:37.520 --> 01:28:40.960 grudge as well as the Jews. 01:28:40.960 --> 01:28:43.520 That is just simply a fact. 01:28:43.520 --> 01:28:49.200 That is not saying something mean or pejorative or wrong about them, 01:28:49.200 --> 01:28:50.960 they hold a grudge. 01:28:50.960 --> 01:28:53.360 They hate It's kind of impressive. 01:28:53.360 --> 01:28:57.920 It almost is, because it's it's generational over centuries. 01:28:57.920 --> 01:29:02.240 Yeah. The dedication. 01:29:02.240 --> 01:29:06.240 And part of the reason that they hate him you need to 01:29:06.240 --> 01:29:10.400 have an idea of what exactly was done here. 01:29:10.400 --> 01:29:14.640 One, it was conducted in an entirely fair manner, because this was 01:29:14.640 --> 01:29:18.800 held as a trial of the Talmud before the king. 01:29:18.800 --> 01:29:24.320 Four rabbis were allowed to defend the Talmud against the accusations of 01:29:24.320 --> 01:29:27.600 Donin. They failed. 01:29:27.600 --> 01:29:29.600 They did not convince the king at all. 01:29:29.600 --> 01:29:34.240 And so he ordered the copies of the Talmud to be rounded 01:29:34.240 --> 01:29:35.760 up and burned. 01:29:35.760 --> 01:29:39.840 They filled twenty four carriages full of these. 01:29:39.840 --> 01:29:43.360 Now keep in mind, this is in twelve forty. 01:29:43.360 --> 01:29:46.960 These were all produced by hand. 01:29:46.960 --> 01:29:49.440 Painstakingly produced by hand. 01:29:49.440 --> 01:29:53.280 These were extremely expensive be expensive. 01:29:53.280 --> 01:29:59.840 The king burned in one afternoon the equivalent of the entire wealth 01:29:59.840 --> 01:30:01.440 of a major noble. 01:30:01.440 --> 01:30:03.840 That's probably about the value of what was burned. 01:30:03.840 --> 01:30:06.880 This was not a minor matter. 01:30:06.880 --> 01:30:10.400 And he basically wiped out the Talmud in Paris. 01:30:10.400 --> 01:30:13.600 Obviously they had some hidden copies and they had things other places, 01:30:13.600 --> 01:30:20.320 and they reproduced them, unfortunately, they still hate him to this day 01:30:20.640 --> 01:30:25.360 because of this, and another thing that is notable is where these 01:30:25.360 --> 01:30:27.200 volumes were burned. 01:30:27.200 --> 01:30:31.520 They were burned in front of Notre Dame. 01:30:31.520 --> 01:30:35.200 You may remember that not that long ago Notre Dame caught fire. 01:30:35.200 --> 01:30:37.840 If you happened to be on social media at the time, you 01:30:37.840 --> 01:30:40.080 may remember that Jews were celebrating. 01:30:40.080 --> 01:30:43.200 They were celebrating because of this. 01:30:43.200 --> 01:30:46.320 In part, yes, because a church burned and they hate Christianity, they 01:30:46.320 --> 01:30:48.400 hate Christ, they hate the church. 01:30:48.400 --> 01:30:53.600 But it was partly because of a generational grudge held against King 01:30:53.600 --> 01:30:58.480 Louis For burning the Talmud. 01:30:58.800 --> 01:31:01.600 There are no other people on this planet who do that for 01:31:01.600 --> 01:31:02.320 that long. 01:31:02.320 --> 01:31:05.040 For a thousand years, nearly. 01:31:05.040 --> 01:31:05.360 Yeah, 01:31:05.360 --> 01:31:06.560 it's incredible. 01:31:06.560 --> 01:31:10.000 In twenty twenty, a few people may remember that there were as 01:31:10.000 --> 01:31:13.040 part of the some of the we need to destroy these statues 01:31:13.040 --> 01:31:17.680 of oppression protests, there was there were counter protests in front of 01:31:17.680 --> 01:31:19.680 a statue of King Louis in St. 01:31:19.680 --> 01:31:23.840 Louis, in this country, there's a big beautiful statue of him on 01:31:23.840 --> 01:31:27.520 horseback. There were people there, there were a number of Catholics there 01:31:27.760 --> 01:31:31.760 commendably defending the statue, standing around it praying, and there were a 01:31:31.760 --> 01:31:33.120 bunch of protesters. 01:31:33.120 --> 01:31:38.080 This received worldwide attention, particularly from the Jewish press, which while it's 01:31:38.080 --> 01:31:42.880 redundant at some point, particularly Jewish Telegraph Agency, J Post, like all 01:31:42.880 --> 01:31:48.160 the actual Jewish focused Jewish media outlets, paid attention to this and 01:31:48.160 --> 01:31:51.600 they all specifically mention the trial of the Talmud. 01:31:51.600 --> 01:31:55.760 Over seven hundred fifty years after that happened, they still hate this 01:31:55.760 --> 01:31:58.560 man so much that one of the statues that's important for them 01:31:58.560 --> 01:32:02.480 to tear down is the statue of King Louis in Saint Louis. 01:32:02.480 --> 01:32:06.320 It's a long way from France, but it's a man who kicked 01:32:06.320 --> 01:32:10.080 them in the teeth and did damage to them because it not 01:32:10.080 --> 01:32:14.080 only was there the immense destruction of wealth and the setback to 01:32:14.720 --> 01:32:17.760 them in terms of being able to spread their lies and their 01:32:17.760 --> 01:32:23.360 filth, but it exposed it, because by having this very public trial, 01:32:23.360 --> 01:32:25.280 suddenly everyone knew. 01:32:25.280 --> 01:32:28.160 And this was not the last trial of the Talmud. 01:32:28.160 --> 01:32:32.400 In Barcelona, the Talmud was burned in the year twelve sixty three. 01:32:32.400 --> 01:32:36.080 The next year Pope Clement IV decreed that any person caught with 01:32:36.080 --> 01:32:38.400 a copy in his possession be put to death. 01:32:38.400 --> 01:32:42.160 In twelve ninety nine and thirteen oh nine, the Talmud was publicly 01:32:42.160 --> 01:32:43.200 burned in Paris. 01:32:43.200 --> 01:32:46.560 In thirteen twenty two by order of Pope John twenty second, the 01:32:46.560 --> 01:32:48.720 Talmud was again publicly burned. 01:32:48.720 --> 01:32:52.640 In fourteen fifteen, Pope Martin V ordered that all copies be destroyed. 01:32:52.640 --> 01:32:58.240 During the Spanish Inquisition in fourteen ninety, Torquemada destroyed large scale burnings 01:32:58.240 --> 01:33:00.000 of the Talmud. 01:33:00.000 --> 01:33:03.840 So this caught on, and when a Jew tells this story they 01:33:03.840 --> 01:33:06.400 say, Oh, there was this European hatred of Jews, it was so 01:33:06.400 --> 01:33:11.600 unfair. The actual story was that for the first time since the 01:33:11.600 --> 01:33:15.600 Talmud had been written down, so since it translated from the secret 01:33:15.600 --> 01:33:20.000 teachings of the Mishnah which were orally transmitted from at rabbi to 01:33:20.000 --> 01:33:25.360 rabbi, from teacher to teacher, Pharisee to Pharisee, whatever, when it became 01:33:25.440 --> 01:33:28.720 when they shifted to the rabbinic school and they recorded the Talmud 01:33:28.720 --> 01:33:31.040 and started putting all this putting all this stuff down, it was 01:33:31.040 --> 01:33:34.640 still not until twelve forty that any of it had been translated 01:33:34.640 --> 01:33:37.200 into a language that a Christian could read. 01:33:37.200 --> 01:33:40.320 So twelve forty is effectively the first time the Christians had any 01:33:40.320 --> 01:33:43.440 idea what Jews had been up to for over twelve hundred years. 01:33:43.440 --> 01:33:46.320 And longer than that, because frankly, when you look at the stuff 01:33:46.320 --> 01:33:50.240 in there, I believe them that the Talmud includes things that had 01:33:50.240 --> 01:33:53.840 been taught by the Pharisees in the centuries preceding Christ. 01:33:53.840 --> 01:33:57.840 Not all of them, because there were some believers among the Jews 01:33:57.840 --> 01:33:58.640 in that day. 01:33:58.640 --> 01:34:04.640 So there were indeed Christians who were believing the scripture and not 01:34:04.640 --> 01:34:06.160 believing the Talmud. 01:34:06.160 --> 01:34:09.600 In fact, this man himself was one of them. 01:34:09.440 --> 01:34:13.600 the the story of his life was that he believed the Old 01:34:13.600 --> 01:34:16.960 Testament and he rejected the Talmud, and that's how he ended up 01:34:16.960 --> 01:34:21.600 getting excommunicated from his Jewish community and ended up becoming Christian sometime 01:34:21.600 --> 01:34:25.120 later. Or maybe he was Christian first, but in any event, he 01:34:25.120 --> 01:34:30.240 was convinced not only by the veracity of the Tanakh, but by 01:34:30.560 --> 01:34:34.320 the evil of the Talmud that Christianity had to be the true 01:34:34.320 --> 01:34:37.840 religion. He came to faith by despising what was written in the 01:34:37.840 --> 01:34:41.200 Talmud. And so for him, it was a matter of conscience to 01:34:41.200 --> 01:34:45.040 tell other Christians, here's what's in this thing. 01:34:45.040 --> 01:34:47.040 And I I think that's why I think that's such a perfect 01:34:47.520 --> 01:34:49.680 microcosm of this whole question. 01:34:49.680 --> 01:34:52.400 When we talk about Jews, what's going on? 01:34:52.400 --> 01:34:56.160 Is it people spreading lies and hatred, or is it people telling 01:34:56.160 --> 01:35:00.880 the truth and then Christians having a righteous response to evil? 01:35:00.880 --> 01:35:01.840 It has nothing to do with 01:35:02.880 --> 01:35:05.200 their genetics as far as we're concerned. 01:35:05.200 --> 01:35:07.280 I don't care who they are or what they are. 01:35:07.280 --> 01:35:08.640 I care about evil. 01:35:08.640 --> 01:35:11.680 And if I find that wherever I see evil in my own 01:35:11.680 --> 01:35:15.280 society, I can dig for not more than 30 seconds and find 01:35:15.360 --> 01:35:18.400 Jews behind it when we're told they're only two percent of the 01:35:18.400 --> 01:35:21.680 population. At some point that matters to Christians. 01:35:21.680 --> 01:35:23.360 I hate evil. 01:35:23.360 --> 01:35:25.040 God commands me to hate evil. 01:35:25.040 --> 01:35:26.080 God is in my heart. 01:35:26.080 --> 01:35:27.360 I hate evil. 01:35:27.360 --> 01:35:30.160 It's got nothing to do with the people who are perpetrating it. 01:35:30.160 --> 01:35:34.800 Cory and I have both been personal victims of tremendous evil just 01:35:34.800 --> 01:35:36.160 in the last couple months. 01:35:36.160 --> 01:35:39.040 I don't bear a grudge against any of the men who participated 01:35:39.040 --> 01:35:42.080 in doxing me or any of the other harmful things that they've 01:35:42.080 --> 01:35:42.800 attempted to do. 01:35:42.880 --> 01:35:44.000 I don't bear a grudge. 01:35:44.000 --> 01:35:44.880 I pity them. 01:35:44.880 --> 01:35:49.040 And I ask God for my sake not to punish them. 01:35:49.040 --> 01:35:50.560 They're unrepentant. 01:35:50.560 --> 01:35:53.040 They're they hate God with all their hearts. 01:35:53.040 --> 01:35:54.640 They're going to burn in hell. 01:35:54.640 --> 01:35:59.600 Because regardless of what I do to seek God to forgive them 01:35:59.600 --> 01:36:02.000 for their sins against me, they hate Him. 01:36:02.000 --> 01:36:03.840 And God will sort that out in His time. 01:36:03.840 --> 01:36:07.040 So men like Corey and me, who are Christians, when we are 01:36:07.040 --> 01:36:11.280 actual victims of actual persecution, we don't need to bear a grudge 01:36:11.440 --> 01:36:13.600 because we know the vengeance is God's. 01:36:13.600 --> 01:36:16.240 He's going to do a more perfect job of 01:36:17.440 --> 01:36:20.320 causing vengeance than we could ever imagine. 01:36:20.320 --> 01:36:23.280 I'm not going to sit around thinking about vengeance because I don't 01:36:23.280 --> 01:36:23.920 need to. 01:36:23.920 --> 01:36:25.920 God will take care of it perfectly. 01:36:25.920 --> 01:36:29.280 And if that means that, you know, by some miracle these men 01:36:29.280 --> 01:36:33.120 come to faith and become Christians, in some case again, thank God. 01:36:33.120 --> 01:36:34.480 I'd love to see him in heaven. 01:36:34.480 --> 01:36:36.880 You know if we can laugh about how stupid it was that 01:36:36.880 --> 01:36:39.920 they would try to dox and murder someone for a podcast. 01:36:39.920 --> 01:36:41.280 Because it is really stupid. 01:36:41.280 --> 01:36:42.960 It's just it's sad. 01:36:42.960 --> 01:36:44.640 But I'm not mad about it. 01:36:44.640 --> 01:36:46.960 It's that is a Christian response. 01:36:46.960 --> 01:36:48.800 These people have a different response. 01:36:48.800 --> 01:36:53.280 Someone tells the truth about them in its centuries and millennia of 01:36:53.280 --> 01:36:55.520 murder. That's a spiritual fruit. 01:36:55.520 --> 01:36:58.640 And to go back to what we were saying earlier on the 01:36:58.640 --> 01:37:03.280 quotes from Jesus, John A forty four, Revelation 2 9, Revelation 3 01:37:03.600 --> 01:37:07.440 9, these are the synagogue of Satan, they're the congregation of Satan. 01:37:07.440 --> 01:37:09.360 They're Satan's children. 01:37:09.360 --> 01:37:13.120 Particularly, this isn't something that was said of the Greeks in in 01:37:13.120 --> 01:37:16.480 that day, who were pagans, or the Romans who were pagans. 01:37:16.480 --> 01:37:18.320 They were worshiping demons as well. 01:37:18.320 --> 01:37:23.280 And yet they were not called children of Satan by God's prophet, 01:37:23.280 --> 01:37:25.920 by Paul, or by Jesus himself. 01:37:25.920 --> 01:37:29.760 It was specifically the Jews who were called the children of Satan. 01:37:29.760 --> 01:37:34.160 And so for thirty five hundred years we have them practicing black 01:37:34.160 --> 01:37:39.520 magic and worshiping demons intermittently in some cases, and some have repented, 01:37:39.520 --> 01:37:40.720 become Christian. 01:37:40.720 --> 01:37:45.120 Again, it's just as we talked last week about how salvation does 01:37:45.120 --> 01:37:48.400 not come through DNA, it comes through faith. 01:37:48.400 --> 01:37:50.080 The opposite is also true. 01:37:50.080 --> 01:37:54.560 Although a generational curse was called down by those Jews upon every 01:37:54.560 --> 01:37:58.080 Jew since then, anyone who is covered in the blood of Christ 01:37:58.080 --> 01:38:02.000 in righteousness and forgiveness, their sins are wiped away. 01:38:02.000 --> 01:38:04.880 They cease to be a Jew and they have access to salvation 01:38:04.880 --> 01:38:05.920 by God's mercy. 01:38:05.920 --> 01:38:07.600 That's what I wish for everyone. 01:38:07.600 --> 01:38:10.880 These are such stupid things for people to go to hell for. 01:38:10.880 --> 01:38:12.480 And they will, and they do. 01:38:12.960 --> 01:38:14.240 that's terrible. 01:38:14.240 --> 01:38:18.480 Being mad at a dead king from France and burning in hell 01:38:18.480 --> 01:38:19.680 because of your hatred? 01:38:19.680 --> 01:38:21.840 What a stupid thing. 01:38:21.840 --> 01:38:23.280 What a stupid thing. 01:38:23.280 --> 01:38:26.000 What a hopelessly foolish thing. 01:38:26.000 --> 01:38:30.000 My response is just no Well, I would beg them to stop, 01:38:30.000 --> 01:38:32.640 but I know they won't because that's that's the point. 01:38:32.640 --> 01:38:34.320 They've been doing it for thousands of years. 01:38:34.320 --> 01:38:35.520 They're not gonna stop. 01:38:35.520 --> 01:38:38.400 So we as Christians, when we have these people in our lands, 01:38:38.400 --> 01:38:41.840 have to find Christian ways of dealing with evil. 01:38:41.840 --> 01:38:45.360 That's part of why we focused in some cases on talking about 01:38:45.360 --> 01:38:50.160 things like Christian nationalism, about the fact that individuals like Corey and 01:38:50.160 --> 01:38:54.400 I have no duty, we have no vocation to fix these problems. 01:38:54.400 --> 01:38:57.200 We do have a vocation to tell the truth about them, to 01:38:57.200 --> 01:38:59.680 tell the truth about everything. 01:38:59.680 --> 01:39:02.880 You know, it's not it's not like we just want to talk 01:39:02.880 --> 01:39:05.680 about black people or Jews or DNA or whatever. 01:39:05.680 --> 01:39:08.720 That's I I I find these topics tedious. 01:39:08.720 --> 01:39:11.760 But at the same time they're important because they're forbidden. 01:39:11.760 --> 01:39:15.760 And when something is forbidden and it's forbidden against Christians when it's 01:39:15.760 --> 01:39:20.160 true, that's where the investigation needs to be kicked off. 01:39:20.160 --> 01:39:23.440 It's not for the sake of the titillating factor of some forbidden 01:39:23.440 --> 01:39:27.440 knowledge, like this is not occult knowledge, it's simply people are up 01:39:27.440 --> 01:39:28.160 to no good. 01:39:28.160 --> 01:39:31.760 Christians need to know about that in our lives, in our communities, 01:39:31.760 --> 01:39:34.000 and in as they're influencing us. 01:39:34.000 --> 01:39:37.120 If you know You know that every drop of media that you 01:39:37.120 --> 01:39:40.720 consume has been created by people who hate God and hate you 01:39:40.720 --> 01:39:42.480 and want you destroyed. 01:39:42.480 --> 01:39:45.600 Maybe it changes your changes some of your consumer habits. 01:39:45.600 --> 01:39:47.040 That's salutary. 01:39:47.040 --> 01:39:48.400 That's it. 01:39:48.400 --> 01:39:52.000 As far as what a prince does, a godly prince, that's neither 01:39:52.000 --> 01:39:54.720 of us, that's not our problem, it's not our purview. 01:39:54.720 --> 01:39:59.200 But telling other Christians to beware of evil is every Christian's duty. 01:39:59.200 --> 01:40:02.480 And a Christian who fails to warn another Christian about evil is 01:40:02.480 --> 01:40:04.640 failing to be Christian. 01:40:04.640 --> 01:40:07.360 It's got nothing to with name calling or hatred or anything else. 01:40:07.360 --> 01:40:11.120 It's saying if there's evil in your midst, beware and deal with 01:40:11.120 --> 01:40:14.560 it in a Christian way. 01:40:14.560 --> 01:40:14.800 I 01:40:14.800 --> 01:40:20.560 want to emphasize that point about relative percentages. 01:40:20.560 --> 01:40:24.080 If you are dealing with a population, let's say it's made up 01:40:24.080 --> 01:40:28.560 of two different groups, A and B, and you have some bad 01:40:28.560 --> 01:40:34.960 thing that happens at a rate of 10% in your population. 01:40:34.960 --> 01:40:40.000 If 5% is from group A and five percent is from Group 01:40:40.000 --> 01:40:43.600 B, you don't need to look at either group specifically, you look 01:40:43.600 --> 01:40:46.720 at the problem and try to address the problem, the root causes 01:40:46.880 --> 01:40:49.440 whatever they happen to be. 01:40:49.440 --> 01:40:57.600 If, in the alternative, ninety percent of that ten percent problem occurs 01:40:57.760 --> 01:41:02.320 with group A, it is warranted to take a particular look at 01:41:02.480 --> 01:41:06.800 Group A, and what Group A is doing with its time, why 01:41:06.800 --> 01:41:10.320 you have this problem in this particular group. 01:41:10.320 --> 01:41:15.680 An example of this would be in the US, according to NIH 01:41:16.000 --> 01:41:23.520 data, Sixty to seventy-five percent of new HIV cases every year are 01:41:24.480 --> 01:41:29.760 amongst homosexual men, amongst sodomites. 01:41:29.760 --> 01:41:34.000 You should probably look at that because they are less than 10%, 01:41:34.000 --> 01:41:37.280 significantly less than 10% in the older generations. 01:41:37.280 --> 01:41:41.040 There are some very real problems with younger generations, although there are 01:41:41.040 --> 01:41:44.880 some self-reporting errors, but they are significantly less than ten percent of 01:41:44.880 --> 01:41:46.640 the population. 01:41:46.640 --> 01:41:49.920 They should not be three quarters of those who are diagnosed with 01:41:49.920 --> 01:41:53.520 this particular disease, except of course we know that it is due 01:41:53.520 --> 01:41:55.200 to their behavior. 01:41:55.200 --> 01:41:58.560 And so it is warranted to look at the behavior of that 01:41:58.560 --> 01:42:03.360 group and see why in this case this particular consequence of a 01:42:03.360 --> 01:42:06.960 particular kind of sin is affecting them. 01:42:06.960 --> 01:42:09.920 When it comes to the Jews, as was mentioned, they are about 01:42:09.920 --> 01:42:12.160 two percent of the US population. 01:42:12.160 --> 01:42:15.600 Depends where you are, they congregate in various areas. 01:42:15.600 --> 01:42:20.000 I could name them, but most likely you know them. 01:42:20.000 --> 01:42:25.200 If you find them them at the root of almost every problem, 01:42:25.200 --> 01:42:29.120 major societal problem we have been discussing so far, if you find 01:42:29.120 --> 01:42:31.760 them at the root of the so-called Civil Rights Act, if you 01:42:31.760 --> 01:42:34.160 find them at the root of feminism, if you find them at 01:42:34.160 --> 01:42:36.720 the root of abolitionism, if you find them at the root of 01:42:36.720 --> 01:42:39.520 atheism, if you find them at the root of all of the 01:42:39.520 --> 01:42:43.760 court attempts to remove God from our public life, if you find 01:42:43.760 --> 01:42:48.640 them in the cases that legalized abortion and homosexual marriage so called, 01:42:48.640 --> 01:42:52.320 and all of these various other things, and their two percent of 01:42:52.320 --> 01:42:58.160 the population, it is warranted to look more closely at what they 01:42:58.160 --> 01:43:00.240 are doing. 01:43:00.640 --> 01:43:05.840 That's akin to what happened in the disputation of Paris. 01:43:05.840 --> 01:43:08.080 Dodin came to the king. 01:43:08.080 --> 01:43:10.960 Obviously came to someone under the king first, you don't just walk 01:43:10.960 --> 01:43:11.920 up to the king. 01:43:11.920 --> 01:43:16.000 But Dodin got this information to the king about what the Jews 01:43:16.000 --> 01:43:17.120 were doing. 01:43:17.120 --> 01:43:20.160 And so given the information about what was going on, it was 01:43:20.160 --> 01:43:24.640 warranted for him as a Christian, particularly as a Christian ruler, to 01:43:24.640 --> 01:43:26.560 investigate what was happening. 01:43:26.560 --> 01:43:32.080 No All we're doing, in this episode and so many others, is 01:43:32.080 --> 01:43:37.280 looking at the facts through a Christian lens, comparing what we see 01:43:37.280 --> 01:43:40.880 in the world to what we see in Scripture, what Scripture commands 01:43:40.880 --> 01:43:44.640 us to do, and what we as a people are doing, what 01:43:44.640 --> 01:43:47.120 we as a church are doing, and what others out in the 01:43:47.120 --> 01:43:49.680 world, as their various groups are doing. 01:43:49.680 --> 01:43:52.400 If you find a group that is continually 01:43:53.520 --> 01:43:58.000 opposed to the church, that is continually opposed to God, that hates 01:43:58.000 --> 01:44:02.480 God with a hatred you probably couldn't manage to summon for your 01:44:02.480 --> 01:44:05.200 worst enemy if you happen to have a personal enemy, not to 01:44:05.200 --> 01:44:06.080 resurrect that topic. 01:44:07.440 --> 01:44:14.480 If you keep finding the same group, they warrant additional scrutiny. 01:44:14.480 --> 01:44:18.960 And as we have demonstrated conclusively, when you look at these problems, 01:44:18.960 --> 01:44:23.200 you keep finding Jews. 01:44:23.200 --> 01:44:27.840 We're not saying it's because of their ethnicity, because of their DNA. 01:44:27.840 --> 01:44:30.720 We're not saying it's because of race. 01:44:30.720 --> 01:44:33.680 Now there may be some predilections there that play into it, because 01:44:33.680 --> 01:44:38.160 obviously, as we went over in the episodes on race, genetics affects 01:44:38.160 --> 01:44:42.880 certain personality characteristics, certain attributes, and those do play into things. 01:44:42.880 --> 01:44:46.560 For instance, you have more neuroticism amongst the Jewish population. 01:44:46.560 --> 01:44:49.520 That's not a stereotype, I mean it is a stereotype, but it's 01:44:49.440 --> 01:44:50.960 also just statistically true. 01:44:50.960 --> 01:44:54.560 As I've mentioned before, I used to do psychology. 01:44:54.560 --> 01:44:56.160 So I've I have studied these things. 01:44:56.160 --> 01:44:56.400 You have 01:44:57.280 --> 01:45:03.040 certain psychological ailments that are more common in various populations, and so 01:45:03.040 --> 01:45:06.160 that does play into some of this in some ways. 01:45:06.160 --> 01:45:10.320 But when it comes to the Jews, the biggest thing is that 01:45:10.320 --> 01:45:16.400 they have maintained this particular wickedness over a course of centuries because 01:45:16.400 --> 01:45:18.000 they rejected Christ. 01:45:18.000 --> 01:45:19.520 That was the big inflection point. 01:45:19.520 --> 01:45:22.640 Yes, before that, they had all the times they were apostate and 01:45:22.640 --> 01:45:28.160 worshipped demons and sacrificed their children, and hated God and God killed 01:45:28.160 --> 01:45:31.920 many of them with disease and all sorts of other things. 01:45:31.920 --> 01:45:37.120 But it was really in Pilate's courtyard that they solidified their opposition 01:45:37.120 --> 01:45:41.600 to God by rejecting Christ, by crying out for him to be 01:45:41.600 --> 01:45:47.760 crucified, and choosing Barabbas, the son of the Father, because that's of 01:45:47.760 --> 01:45:49.200 course what Barabas means 01:45:50.320 --> 01:45:55.280 over the Son of Man, over the only begotten Son of God. 01:45:55.280 --> 01:45:56.560 And from that point 01:45:57.920 --> 01:46:02.400 they have just doubled down again and again and again, when the 01:46:02.400 --> 01:46:07.440 temple was destroyed, they ran into the synagogues, instead of having the 01:46:07.440 --> 01:46:11.920 sacrifices at the temple because of course those were done, that prefigured 01:46:11.920 --> 01:46:17.280 Christ, with Christ's once for all sacrifice, the animal sacrifices were done, 01:46:17.280 --> 01:46:18.640 the temple is gone. 01:46:18.640 --> 01:46:22.560 That was God's point in utterly destroying it. 01:46:22.560 --> 01:46:26.720 Well, they ran into the synagogues, and so instead, now they have 01:46:27.120 --> 01:46:31.520 rabbis who teach not so much out of Scripture as out of 01:46:31.520 --> 01:46:35.520 what their interpretation of Scripture. 01:46:35.520 --> 01:46:38.640 But one of the most famous sayings about the Talmud, and this 01:46:38.640 --> 01:46:41.600 is a saying from Jews, is it not a saying Christians created, 01:46:41.600 --> 01:46:44.240 this is one of their own sayings. 01:46:44.240 --> 01:46:48.880 What the Torah forbids, Talmud permits. 01:46:48.880 --> 01:46:50.800 That's what they've done with the Talmud. 01:46:50.800 --> 01:46:56.720 They have inverted scripture, inverted God's truth, and created a wicked satanic 01:46:56.720 --> 01:47:02.800 religion that is explicitly, vehemently, and virulently opposed to God and his 01:47:03.040 --> 01:47:07.120 church. And they are not getting better with the centuries. 01:47:07.120 --> 01:47:12.880 Because as we have pointed out before, if you continue longitudinally, and 01:47:12.880 --> 01:47:16.480 this this is the case for an individual life or for a 01:47:16.480 --> 01:47:22.160 nation, if you continue to worship demons, you will get worse. 01:47:22.160 --> 01:47:27.040 A man who engages in sexual sins in his youth can turn 01:47:27.040 --> 01:47:28.800 his life around. 01:47:28.800 --> 01:47:31.680 A man who does it for fifty years is very unlikely to 01:47:31.680 --> 01:47:33.520 do so. 01:47:33.520 --> 01:47:38.400 A people who worship demons for one generation can maybe turn that 01:47:38.400 --> 01:47:42.320 around, perhaps their children turn back to the Lord God. 01:47:42.320 --> 01:47:46.080 But a people who worship demons over a course of thousands of 01:47:46.080 --> 01:47:50.640 years, are very unlikely to change that behavior. 01:47:50.640 --> 01:47:52.800 And that is exactly what we see here. 01:47:52.800 --> 01:47:57.840 We can see the same pattern playing out over and over and 01:47:57.840 --> 01:48:02.880 over again, and apparently we as Christians learn very slowly. 01:48:02.880 --> 01:48:05.440 Or just forget our history and have to learn the lesson the 01:48:05.440 --> 01:48:07.760 hard way again. 01:48:07.760 --> 01:48:10.240 Because we're having the same problems today 01:48:11.200 --> 01:48:15.040 That Christian Europe had in the middle of the nineteen hundreds. 01:48:15.040 --> 01:48:18.960 They were having the same problems then that Europe had earlier in 01:48:18.960 --> 01:48:20.320 the eighteen hundreds. 01:48:20.320 --> 01:48:23.280 They were having the same problems then that Europe had had in 01:48:23.280 --> 01:48:26.560 centuries past, and they were having the same problems then that the 01:48:26.560 --> 01:48:29.760 Roman Empire had had, and they were have and it just keeps 01:48:29.760 --> 01:48:34.480 going. We don't have to repeat history. 01:48:34.480 --> 01:48:38.400 We don't have to learn the same lesson over and over and 01:48:38.400 --> 01:48:39.040 over again. 01:48:39.200 --> 01:48:42.000 If you have a low hanging part of your ceiling in your 01:48:42.000 --> 01:48:45.280 house, how many times do you have to smack your head before 01:48:45.280 --> 01:48:48.320 you learn to duck? 01:48:48.320 --> 01:48:51.920 As Christians, we are told to be wise. 01:48:52.480 --> 01:48:54.240 We're not told to be foolish anywhere. 01:48:54.240 --> 01:48:56.240 Being foolish is wrongful. 01:48:56.240 --> 01:48:58.080 Being foolish can be a sin. 01:48:58.080 --> 01:48:59.360 Don't be a fool. 01:48:59.360 --> 01:49:01.440 We are told to be wise. 01:49:01.440 --> 01:49:04.080 We have all this information at our disposal. 01:49:04.080 --> 01:49:08.640 Nothing we have said in this episode is particularly difficult to find. 01:49:08.640 --> 01:49:11.200 None of it is going to be difficult to verify. 01:49:11.200 --> 01:49:14.480 Yes, it takes some effort and some background knowledge in order to 01:49:14.480 --> 01:49:16.320 synthesize the material. 01:49:16.960 --> 01:49:18.320 But it's all out there. 01:49:18.320 --> 01:49:19.200 This is not hidden. 01:49:19.200 --> 01:49:23.280 This is we're not in the position of King Louis where a 01:49:23.280 --> 01:49:27.360 random former Jew comes to us and says, Oh, by the way, 01:49:27.360 --> 01:49:29.600 we have access to the these materials. 01:49:29.600 --> 01:49:32.640 The Talmud is online, in English. 01:49:32.640 --> 01:49:35.920 And it is actually a translation of the Talmud. 01:49:35.920 --> 01:49:37.760 It's they didn't play games with it. 01:49:37.760 --> 01:49:40.880 In places it says that raping children is fine, if they're under 01:49:40.880 --> 01:49:41.760 a certain age. 01:49:41.760 --> 01:49:45.280 It says that Christ is boiling an excrement. 01:49:45.280 --> 01:49:48.720 These are the kinds of things that are in there. 01:49:48.720 --> 01:49:52.480 And again, we as Christians are called to be wise, because we 01:49:52.480 --> 01:50:00.000 have to protect ourselves, our families, our nation, and the church. 01:50:00.000 --> 01:50:03.760 Many of these problems have been allowed to fester for too long, 01:50:03.760 --> 01:50:07.680 and that is why we address these. 01:50:07.680 --> 01:50:12.320 It is the duty of Christian rulers to do what the Spanish 01:50:12.320 --> 01:50:17.040 did, to drive out the pagans, and then to exile the pagans 01:50:17.040 --> 01:50:18.560 who will not convert. 01:50:18.560 --> 01:50:22.080 It is the duty of Christians in the church, not just pastors, 01:50:22.080 --> 01:50:26.720 not just bishops, but laymen as well, because fathers and men have 01:50:26.720 --> 01:50:27.920 duties as well in the church. 01:50:27.920 --> 01:50:31.200 It is the duty of men in the church to see that 01:50:31.200 --> 01:50:37.520 right doctrine is taught and and that Christians understand these extremely salient 01:50:37.520 --> 01:50:38.240 issues 01:50:39.760 --> 01:50:43.920 because in the church itself, in the kingdom of the right hand, 01:50:43.920 --> 01:50:48.800 yes it is sufficient to know right doctrine, to know the scriptures, 01:50:48.800 --> 01:50:50.720 not to believe false doctrine. 01:50:50.720 --> 01:50:53.840 But you don't exist just in the kingdom of the right hand. 01:50:53.840 --> 01:50:56.080 You also exist in the kingdom of the left hand. 01:50:56.080 --> 01:50:59.200 You have to enact interact in your daily life with others. 01:50:59.200 --> 01:51:00.560 You interact with the world. 01:51:00.560 --> 01:51:00.960 It is important 01:51:01.840 --> 01:51:05.520 as a Christian to know how you are to conduct yourself in 01:51:05.520 --> 01:51:10.880 both kingdoms, and is the duty of men, particularly of fathers and 01:51:10.880 --> 01:51:14.560 pastors and rulers, anyone in a position of authority. 01:51:14.560 --> 01:51:18.240 That authority having been granted by God, it is the duty of 01:51:18.240 --> 01:51:23.200 those men to address these problems, and Christians have neglected them for 01:51:23.200 --> 01:51:24.720 far too long.