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<v Speaker 2>Welcome to the Stone Choir Podcast.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>I am Corey J.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>Mahler.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>And I'm still woe.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>On today's Stone Choir, we're going to be discussing the subject of</v>

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<v Speaker 3>repentance. This is obviously a crucial part of the Christian life.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>It's found throughout the Bible.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>And the way the way the word is used today among Christians</v>

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<v Speaker 3>is a pretty radical departure from what's actually in the Bible.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>So today we're going to be doing a word study and an</v>

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<v Speaker 3>examination of the doctrine of repentance and what actually means what actually</v>

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<v Speaker 3>looks like.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>Because by the end of this episode, you will all be repenting</v>

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<v Speaker 3>of what you thought about repenting.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>And we'll explain what that means throughout the uh the hour or</v>

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<v Speaker 3>so here today.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>Before we get into the details, the meat of the subject, just</v>

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<v Speaker 3>a bit of housekeeping for the show.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>First, if you're a regular listener, we apologize that we were not</v>

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<v Speaker 3>on schedule last week.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>Corey had a bit of a nasty cold that messed up his</v>

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<v Speaker 3>voice and probably would not have been pleasant for him to talk</v>

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<v Speaker 3>for two hours straight.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>But as we were talking about, we realized that so many people</v>

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<v Speaker 3>go back and listen to the archives, you know, months and years</v>

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<v Speaker 3>hopefully at some point in the future after these things were recorded.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>We've worked really hard to try to make them all sound the</v>

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<v Speaker 3>same. So we decide we didn't want an episode where something just</v>

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<v Speaker 3>sounded really weird, so we just took a bye week, so this</v>

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<v Speaker 3>episode is the one we had planned to do last week.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>Second bit of s show news this coming Saturday I am going</v>

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<v Speaker 3>to be appearing on on the Forrest Moretti show.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>Uh it's a guy on Twitter who's uh been a friend of</v>

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<v Speaker 3>us, Corey and myself for a while.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>He invited me on a brand new show that he's doing.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>I'm gonna be his guinea pig first guest as he works out</v>

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<v Speaker 3>some of the kinks.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>So Saturday evening at nine p.m.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>on X, we'll be doing a live stream.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>And then subsequent to that, it will be on uh podcast hosting</v>

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<v Speaker 3>that he's doing.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>He invited me on in part just to talk about stuff that</v>

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<v Speaker 3>Corey and I are never gonna talk about here.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>There's a lot of stuff that's off-brand for us.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>You know, Corey and I are both experts on a number of</v>

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<v Speaker 3>things that have nothing to do with stone choir subjects.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>So we're just never going to waste your time with it because</v>

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<v Speaker 3>that's not what you're here for.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>So if you're interested in hearing me talk for a few hours</v>

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<v Speaker 3>about other stuff that's not the Bible, you can check that out.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>After the recording, we will come back to this episode show notes</v>

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<v Speaker 3>and update them so that that link will be here.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>And we'll also put the updated uh link in next week's show</v>

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<v Speaker 3>notes. So if you're a regular listener, you'll be able to find</v>

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<v Speaker 3>it next week.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>So check it out or not.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>No big deal.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>Like it's gonna have nothing to do with anything we normally talk</v>

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<v Speaker 3>about. It's just gonna be him asking me questions about you know</v>

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<v Speaker 3>my life and history and some other stuff that I know about.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>The third item of show housekeeping is that we have some merch</v>

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<v Speaker 3>coming. Corey has been working on some a really cool challenge coin.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>He's gonna explain in a minute what that is.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>These are completely useless.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>It's a two-inch circle that's very nice.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>Corey gifted me one he's made in the past that has the</v>

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<v Speaker 3>Luther seal on one side and a German quotation on the other</v>

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<v Speaker 3>side. It's beautiful.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>I love it.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>I keep it in my pocket.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>It's just it's very satisfying the heft of it and the feel.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>And it's a nice commemoration of having been involved in something.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>And so that one is focused on Lutheranism.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>The one that we're doing is specifically focused on Stone Choir and</v>

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<v Speaker 3>why we are all here together as a Stone Choir.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>Like Stone Choir is not two guys.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>Stone choir is really all of us.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>It's all the people who are realizing that there is something that</v>

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<v Speaker 3>needs to be said that's not being said in our churches and</v>

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<v Speaker 3>our societies.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>And so we are all working together to say some of these</v>

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<v Speaker 3>things. And so in order to help you guys feel a part</v>

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<v Speaker 3>of it and we're to give you an opportunity to support us</v>

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<v Speaker 3>to support the show in a way that you get some token</v>

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<v Speaker 3>back. We're gonna be selling these challenge coins starting pretty soon.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>So Corey give the details on the timeline.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>I just want to make a couple things clear.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>One, there's a limited run of 2,000 of them, which is a</v>

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<v Speaker 3>lot of them.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>It's going to take a while to sell through.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>Part of the reason that we're pre-selling them is that you know</v>

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<v Speaker 3>we want to recoup some of the money that's being outlaid to</v>

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<v Speaker 3>buy these because Corey is paying entirely out of pocket to produce</v>

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<v Speaker 3>them and then we'll get that money back over time.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>So we'll be in the hole for a while until enough people</v>

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<v Speaker 3>come in to ask for them.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>So initially there some pretty steep discounts on them and he's gonna</v>

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<v Speaker 3>give the the details on that timeline.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>Every coin is the same except that they're serialized and so they'll</v>

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<v Speaker 3>be numbered from one to two thousand.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>He gets number one, obviously I'll be number two.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>And then</v>

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<v Speaker 3>when you order, and the reason we're mentioning this now ahead of</v>

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<v Speaker 3>them being available, if you wish to have the lowest available number,</v>

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<v Speaker 3>you don't need to say anything, you'll get the next number in</v>

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<v Speaker 3>the sequence.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>If on the other hand you want to have a specific number,</v>

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<v Speaker 3>you may be the year of your birth or some special number</v>

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<v Speaker 3>to you, maybe have a favorite racist number from the ADL list</v>

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<v Speaker 3>of all the numbers that are considered to be wicked and evil.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>If one of those tickles your fancy, in the comments on the</v>

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<v Speaker 3>order form, you'll be able to list your top three requests and</v>

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<v Speaker 3>if it's available, Corey will fulfill that for you.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>If not, you'll get the next lowest number available.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>So that's the reason we're pre announcing it is that there's gonna</v>

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<v Speaker 3>be a a bit of a land rush for interesting numbers for</v>

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<v Speaker 3>a little while.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>So what we're gonna do when the art is back from the</v>

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<v Speaker 3>designers at CoinForce, the following Monday, whenever that is, hopefully it'll be</v>

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<v Speaker 3>next Monday, but if the art doesn't come back in time for</v>

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<v Speaker 3>next Monday, there'll be the following week.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>What we're gonna do on Telegram, on the Stone Choir Discuss channel,</v>

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<v Speaker 3>we will be linking the storefront when it's available with the art.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>And a few hours later I'll be linking it on Gab and</v>

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<v Speaker 3>on X at the same time.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>So if you want to get a first dab at the lowest</v>

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<v Speaker 3>number or the most interesting most interesting number to you.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>Follow us in those places on Gab, it's at Stone Choir.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>On X, it's also at Stone Choir.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>And then the link will be in the show notes for the</v>

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<v Speaker 3>Telegram discussion channel.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>And that's the discussion channel on Telegram is really kind of where</v>

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<v Speaker 3>our community is.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>We have over three hundred people now in the group just talking</v>

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<v Speaker 3>every day about stuff.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>And that's I'm in there all the time answering questions, helping people</v>

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<v Speaker 3>out. I'm also on X answering questions for people looking for churches</v>

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<v Speaker 3>or whatever.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>So we're always available.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>Those are the best places to find us.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>We'll link the store there so you can find it and you</v>

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<v Speaker 3>can place the order if you're interested.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>Again, this is principally a way for you to help support the</v>

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<v Speaker 3>show to help us keep going doing what we're doing because it</v>

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<v Speaker 3>it takes a lot of time and it's free.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>You don't have to give us anything.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>But if you would like to, this is an opportunity for you</v>

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<v Speaker 3>to give us something and to get a really nice symbol or</v>

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<v Speaker 3>token back.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>And uh like I said, it's I'm absolutely confident that when these</v>

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<v Speaker 3>are produced, they're going to be really, really nice.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>It's gonna be a conversation starter.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>And frankly, I think that might be one of the useful things.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>Once you get your Stone Choir Challenge coin, you have it in</v>

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<v Speaker 3>your pocket all the time and you know, maybe if you're with</v>

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<v Speaker 3>a group of guys out drinking or whatever and something comes up</v>

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<v Speaker 3>and there's some reason why you might want to bring up Stone</v>

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<v Speaker 3>Choir, you could just whip out the coin.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>What is that?</v>

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<v Speaker 3>It so it could be a conversation starter to put on the</v>

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<v Speaker 3>table. Hey, there's these guys talking about this stuff, and here's where</v>

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<v Speaker 3>I learned about this.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>And it's an opportunity for you to support us to show that</v>

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<v Speaker 3>you're part of the show.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>Eventually, you know, as we are all meeting each other in the</v>

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<v Speaker 3>real world, you'll be able to see who has a lower number</v>

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<v Speaker 3>and you know somebody who doesn't have a coin will be on</v>

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<v Speaker 3>the outs.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>So it's a chance for a cool little shibleth of participation and</v>

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<v Speaker 3>being an insider.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>Or completely skip it if you think it's a grift and and</v>

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<v Speaker 3>we're jerks.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>That's fine too.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>Show's free.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>Keep listening.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>We love you too.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>So Corey, you can explain the details of what a challenge coin</v>

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<v Speaker 3>is and what the timeline will be.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>So for those who have been in the military, you're going to</v>

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<v Speaker 2>know exactly what a challenge coin is and I don't need to</v>

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<v Speaker 2>tell you anything about them.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>But for those who have not been in the military or in</v>

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<v Speaker 2>some cases attached to a political campaign, they're also very common in</v>

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<v Speaker 2>the political sphere.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>A challenge coin is as well mentioned just a very large coin,</v>

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<v Speaker 2>so it's two inches in this case.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>And</v>

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<v Speaker 2>the rules of how challenge coins are used is it's a drinking</v>

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<v Speaker 2>game. Because of course it's going to be a drinking game if</v>

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<v Speaker 2>it's military or politics.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>So how it works is if you take out your coin, you</v>

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<v Speaker 2>produce your coin, and you tap it on the table or toss</v>

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<v Speaker 2>it on the table, however you happen to do it, that is</v>

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<v Speaker 2>a challenge, and that's why it's called a challenge coin.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>Everyone else at the table has to produce a coin.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>If anyone fails to produce a coin, then he pays for the</v>

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<v Speaker 2>next round of drinks.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>Or if multiple people fail, they share paying for the next round</v>

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<v Speaker 2>of drinks.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>If, however, everyone else at the table produces a coin, then the</v>

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<v Speaker 2>person who issued the challenge pays for the next round, so there's</v>

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<v Speaker 2>a bit of a risk there.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>But But if challenge coins become a little more widespread among the</v>

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<v Speaker 2>right-leaning part of the population, which I think is probably likely, then</v>

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<v Speaker 2>there's a risk of not having your coin on you.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>You don't have to necessarily have our coin, but you should probably</v>

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<v Speaker 2>have a coin.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>I have a a handful of challenge coins.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>I usually do carry the the Luther one, the Lutheran seal one</v>

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<v Speaker 2>that Woe mentioned.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>I have one in my hand right now.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>But to give you the specifics for our challenge coin, I have</v>

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<v Speaker 2>already sent over the design information to the designer so I should</v>

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<v Speaker 2>be getting back the initial drafts probably I would imagine, either later</v>

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<v Speaker 2>today or tomorrow.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>There may be some revision, so may take a little time, but</v>

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<v Speaker 2>I would imagine we would be able to get that out an</v>

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<v Speaker 2>actual image of what it will look like sometime next week.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>And so the timeline for the coins would be we currently have</v>

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<v Speaker 2>a discounted price on them of twenty five dollars per coin.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>And that is available until the tenth of March.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>So we made sure there was some time available there for people</v>

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<v Speaker 2>to get the coins at that price.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>And then up until the Wednesday after Easter, which is technically in</v>

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<v Speaker 2>the church calendar year still called Easter Wednesday, which is the third</v>

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<v Speaker 2>of April, it'll be discounted to 35, and then after that it'll</v>

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<v Speaker 2>be a full price of Price of 42.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>As we mentioned, this is largely a way to support the podcast,</v>

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<v Speaker 2>a way to keep things going, as it were.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>But of course there is that initial outlay in order to get</v>

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<v Speaker 2>the coins, and so the first handful of hundreds of coins will</v>

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<v Speaker 2>just be to pay for that.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>The prices have gone up a little bit for metal, as I'm</v>

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<v Speaker 2>sure many of our listeners are aware, and challenge coins being made</v>

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<v Speaker 2>from metal are no exception.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>I certainly paid more for these than I did for the first</v>

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<v Speaker 2>run of the Luther coins, however many years ago that was at</v>

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<v Speaker 2>this point it's been a number of years.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>But I very much like the quality, the production</v>

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<v Speaker 2>that is put out by CoinForce.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>So I know these will be very nice coins.</v>

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And

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<v Speaker 3>of course you don't have to make it a drinking game.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>It can just be a nice memento.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>It's a cool thing.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>You're gonna enjoy it when you get 'em.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>And like I said, it's gonna be a good conversation starter.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>It's a good way to help support us.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>And again, more and more of you guys are meeting each other.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>It's funny.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>I've it seems like on Stone Choir discussion on Telegram, almost once</v>

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<v Speaker 3>a week now, somebody says, I work with a guy who's listening</v>

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<v Speaker 3>to Stone Choir and I had no idea.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>Like, talk about a small world.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>We have, I don't know, maybe probably in the neighborhood of 10,000</v>

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<v Speaker 3>listeners this point every week.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it's impossible to tell 'cause we don't have creepy tracking or</v>

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<v Speaker 3>anything. But just from the download numbers and kind of guessing how</v>

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<v Speaker 3>many folks listen together that we know a lot of people get</v>

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<v Speaker 3>together in listening groups, that's awesome.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>We love you guys.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>It we're guessing there's probably about ten thousand people, but there's a</v>

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<v Speaker 3>lot of people on the planet, and so most people are not</v>

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<v Speaker 3>yet listening to Stone Choir.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>The fact that there could be multiple people in one workplace, yeah,</v>

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<v Speaker 3>let alone there are multiple people in churches who are listening is</v>

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<v Speaker 3>really cool.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>And so someday you guys are gonna have the Stone Choir Challenge</v>

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<v Speaker 3>coin and you'll be able to find each other.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>It's kind of an icthus in the world that might might necessarily</v>

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<v Speaker 3>be obvious to someone, but if they know what's going on, you'll</v>

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<v Speaker 3>be really excited.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>So we look forward to you guys meeting each other in the</v>

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<v Speaker 3>real world.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>More and more we're connecting people with churches where there are already</v>

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<v Speaker 3>stone choir listeners, and that's awesome.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>Like it's to meet like-minded Christians who all are on are on</v>

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<v Speaker 3>the same page and don't need to be embarrassed about believing what</v>

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<v Speaker 3>God says is a treat.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>So that's the that's the end of the housekeeping don't want to</v>

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<v Speaker 3>ramble on any longer.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>Today as we're talking about repentance.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>Like you said, it's going to be a bit of a word</v>

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<v Speaker 3>study, but one thing we're not going to do today is bury</v>

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<v Speaker 3>you in quotes from scripture for a particular reason.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>We're going to explain the concept of repentance.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>We're going to explain what scripture, what the word actually means, first</v>

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<v Speaker 3>in English and then in Greek, because the Greek is frankly more</v>

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<v Speaker 3>applicable to</v>

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<v Speaker 3>what we're focused on today.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>The way, the way the word morphed in English has kind of</v>

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<v Speaker 3>departed from what it actually means in scripture.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>And so we're going to lay out kind of the the taxonomy</v>

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<v Speaker 3>of the overlapping senses of the words.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>Rather than giving you a list of verses that use the Greek</v>

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<v Speaker 3>word for repentance, the point that we want to hammer home today</v>

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<v Speaker 3>is that as I said beginning, once you understand what scripture actually</v>

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<v Speaker 3>means when it says repent, you're going to find it everywhere.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>You're going to find it in all sorts of places in scripture</v>

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<v Speaker 3>that don't use the word at all, but they use the concept.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>They describe repentance without saying repent, because it's that fundamental part of</v>

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<v Speaker 3>the Christian life.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>In fact, repent</v>

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<v Speaker 3>basically is a synonym for live the Christian life.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>Repent and sanctification, repentance and sanctification mean the same thing.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>So that's the case that we're gonna be making here today.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>Some of you may think that sounds completely crazy.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>We're gonna lay out what we mean by that.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>So to begin, looking at the word in English repent.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>It's been around for about seven hundred years in the English language.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>The initial sense of the word was to be grieved over one's</v>

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<v Speaker 3>past and seek forgiveness, to feel such regret for sins, crimes, or</v>

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<v Speaker 3>omissions as produces amendment of life.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>And this came through old French via Latin, which meant to regret,</v>

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<v Speaker 3>and the root there was actually to make sorry from the root</v>

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<v Speaker 3>in Latin for penal.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>And so the the other word I want to highlight because repent</v>

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<v Speaker 3>and penal, you know, that P-E-N, it's the same thing.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>It's the same root when you go back to the beginning.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>Penal obviously still basically means the same thing today.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>It's related to or pertaining to punishment under law.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>And so</v>

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<v Speaker 3>what we find is that in English, as it pulled in the</v>

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<v Speaker 3>notion of the legal penitence, the sorrow for</v>

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<v Speaker 3>the legal consequences, like the the the infusion of the Latin and</v>

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<v Speaker 3>the English bac basically resulted in what we have today where there's</v>

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<v Speaker 3>kind of a conflation of repenting meaning feel sorry and you know</v>

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<v Speaker 3>change your mind.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>But you're sorry for what you did and you're sorry for facing</v>

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<v Speaker 3>the consequences.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>I think when we use repent today, it's definitely in that sphere.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>It's in the it's in that lexical scope that we're using the</v>

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<v Speaker 3>word. And when we look at another word that's related, the word</v>

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<v Speaker 3>contrition is specifically an emotional word.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>Contrition is also about seven hundred years old in English, means brokenness</v>

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<v Speaker 3>of spirit for having given offense, deep sorrow for sin or guilt,</v>

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<v Speaker 3>with the purpose of not sinning again So in the order of</v>

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<v Speaker 3>service, when the general confession of sins is given, you'll find something</v>

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<v Speaker 3>similar in Lutheran churches and some others, where we say, I am</v>

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<v Speaker 3>heartily sorry for my sins and I sincerely repent of them.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>And the reason that those things are right next to each other</v>

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<v Speaker 3>is are closely related, but if you listen carefully and you pay</v>

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<v Speaker 3>attention to all the words that are present is I beg people</v>

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<v Speaker 3>regularly online to do.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>Heartily sorry for them means contrition, means I am contrite, and sincerely</v>

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<v Speaker 3>repent of them obviously means something different than I'm heartily sorry for</v>

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<v Speaker 3>them, because the sorry's already covered.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>And so in the general confession, we say I'm hardly sorry for</v>

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<v Speaker 3>my sins and I sincerely repent of them.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>The and there is because we're saying two different things.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>And I think this is where our understanding of repent in English</v>

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<v Speaker 3>has kinda gone off the rails because like I said, when we</v>

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<v Speaker 3>say repent, we usually think I feel sorry.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>An example I've given in a past episode was when the former</v>

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<v Speaker 3>chief executive at CNN got caught for decades of abuse of girls</v>

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<v Speaker 3>under his supervision.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>He put out a very tearful press release and he was very</v>

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<v Speaker 3>sorry for getting caught.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>He was sorry for being embarrassed in public.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>A Christian who is naively looking at that thing would think, oh,</v>

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<v Speaker 3>he repented.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>What happens in cases like that where we have these public confessions</v>

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<v Speaker 3>of sin in grieving and tears, Jimmy Swaggard saying, I have sinned,</v>

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<v Speaker 3>and he's tears streaming down his face.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>That is not repentance.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>That may be contrition, but frankly, in most cases, when someone is</v>

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<v Speaker 3>called out publicly, what's often happening is they're sorry they got caught,</v>

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<v Speaker 3>they're sorry that they're facing consequences.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>They've may in fact even be sorry that they did whatever wicked</v>

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<v Speaker 3>thing that they did.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>But the question of repentance is a separate question from those things.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>Because repentance doesn't mean I feel bad about it.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>It means I've changed my mind about it.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>So in Greek, the verb for repent, to say to repent, is</v>

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<v Speaker 3>meta noeo.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>And the underlying definition of that is properly to think differently afterwards.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>It's talking about a change of mind.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>It's talking about an intellectual</v>

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<v Speaker 3>switch being flipped where you thought one thing and then you thought</v>

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<v Speaker 3>a different thing.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>And so when you look at the Greek conception of what we</v>

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<v Speaker 3>translate as repent, what you don't find is contrition.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>You don't find any sorrow.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>You don't necessarily even specifically find anything about sin.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>Now in scripture, it's always talking about repenting in the context of</v>

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<v Speaker 3>sin, but this is why it's so crucial because what repentance means</v>

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<v Speaker 3>in the Bible is to think differently afterwards about your sin.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>So, in the case of some E-celeb or some real celebrity, some</v>

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<v Speaker 3>executive who publicly confesses a sin tearfully, in order to determine whether</v>

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<v Speaker 3>or not they have repented, they would have to think differently afterwards</v>

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<v Speaker 3>about whatever it was that they were confessing.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>So when the guy puts out a press release and says, Oh,</v>

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<v Speaker 3>I'm so sorry that for decades I was abusing these girls under</v>

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<v Speaker 3>my authority</v>

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<v Speaker 3>Is he actually saying, I don't want to do that anymore?</v>

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<v Speaker 3>That was evil, I never should have done it, or is he</v>

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<v Speaker 3>just saying, I'm sorry I got caught?</v>

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<v Speaker 3>The reality is he's saying, I'm sorry I got caught.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>So even if it's contrition, it is not repentance, because it's repentance</v>

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<v Speaker 3>is a repudiation of one's past sins.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>It's looking at what you did in the past and saying, this</v>

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<v Speaker 3>is no longer me.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>This is disgusting.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>I hate what I was doing.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>And the reason that's crucial is that it is it's separate from</v>

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<v Speaker 3>feeling bad about your sin.</v>

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For

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<v Speaker 2>those in our audience who are Roman Catholic, you're going to notice</v>

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<v Speaker 2>a difference between what Lutherans and Roman Catholics believe when it comes</v>

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<v Speaker 2>to this issue.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>And it is worth highlighting that.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>Many and in fact most Protestants are going to agree with what</v>

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<v Speaker 2>the Lutherans believe on this particular subject.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>And so historically and still to day, the Roman Catholics conceive of</v>

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<v Speaker 2>repentance, which they would call the sacrament of penance or reconciliation, or</v>

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<v Speaker 2>confession even, they conceive of it as having three parts, or a</v>

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<v Speaker 2>fourth part.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>The fourth part is implied for those who say it has only</v>

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<v Speaker 2>three, although most modern interpreters I believe will say that there are</v>

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<v Speaker 2>four distinct parts, and those would be contrition, confession, satisfaction, and then</v>

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<v Speaker 2>absolution which follows those things.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>The problem with this conception of repentance is that it turns it</v>

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<v Speaker 2>into</v>

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<v Speaker 2>works righteousness.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>This is what actually would make it works righteousness.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>We know that there are going to be some listeners who are</v>

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<v Speaker 2>going to think that what we are saying is works righteousness.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>But that is not what we're saying because what we are saying</v>

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<v Speaker 2>is that this is the and then what of the Christian life.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>That is so often the focus of Stone Choir episodes.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>We got justification right in the Reformation.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>That's done, it's settled.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>We're not fighting over that anymore.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, if we're rehashing those debates in some cases, we're fighting over</v>

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<v Speaker 2>justification again.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>So for instance, we still disagree with Rome when it comes to</v>

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<v Speaker 2>justification. But with other Protestants</v>

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<v Speaker 2>There's no real</v>

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<v Speaker 2>argument there.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>That's not the problem.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>We're talking about what do you do as a Christian once you</v>

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<v Speaker 2>are converted?</v>

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<v Speaker 2>What is the Christian life?</v>

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<v Speaker 2>And the Christian life very well is repentance.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>And so the Lutheran and the Protestant conception of repentance is contrition</v>

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<v Speaker 2>and faith.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>Now we have to be careful about that faith part because the</v>

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<v Speaker 2>faith part</v>

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<v Speaker 2>is more encompassing than what most are going to believe when they</v>

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<v Speaker 2>just hear faith.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, faith.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>I I have faith, so I have therefore repented.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>Faith in this context means the entirety of the Christian life going</v>

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<v Speaker 2>forward. Read James, basically.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>Because the real Christian, the actual Christian, the Christian who has a</v>

00:23:01.440 --> 00:23:06.640
<v Speaker 2>living faith, is going to do certain things and not do certain</v>

00:23:06.640 --> 00:23:09.120
<v Speaker 2>things because of that faith.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>That is what repentance is.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>Repentance is that change of mind, that metanoia to use the Greek</v>

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<v Speaker 2>term. That accompanies an actual living faith.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>It is to turn away from your sin because you now recognize</v>

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<v Speaker 2>it as sin.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>You recognize it as abhorrent.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>If you don't have a real faith, if you're just standing up</v>

00:23:32.880 --> 00:23:37.040
<v Speaker 2>and apologizing because you were caught, which, as Wo said, is often</v>

00:23:37.040 --> 00:23:39.760
<v Speaker 2>the case, and it very much is often the case in the</v>

00:23:39.760 --> 00:23:46.000
<v Speaker 2>public realm, particularly the political realm, contrary to that sort of false</v>

00:23:46.000 --> 00:23:51.920
<v Speaker 2>repentance, real repentance is to look at the things that you once</v>

00:23:51.920 --> 00:23:56.800
<v Speaker 2>did and find them disgusting because you now think about them differently</v>

00:23:56.800 --> 00:24:02.560
<v Speaker 2>from how you thought about them before you were regenerated.</v>

00:24:02.560 --> 00:24:04.240
<v Speaker 2>That is sanctification.</v>

00:24:04.240 --> 00:24:05.520
<v Speaker 2>That is the Christian life.</v>

00:24:05.520 --> 00:24:09.120
<v Speaker 2>That is how these things are supposed to work.</v>

00:24:09.120 --> 00:24:13.760
<v Speaker 2>There's a little bit of irony here, perhaps, with the modern practice</v>

00:24:13.760 --> 00:24:17.760
<v Speaker 2>in the political realm when it comes to so-called repentance.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>Because historically, in the churches, in the early churches, one of One</v>

00:24:23.120 --> 00:24:26.800
<v Speaker 2>of the things that they would do with regard to repentance was</v>

00:24:26.800 --> 00:24:31.360
<v Speaker 2>have someone who had committed some sort of transgression stand up, be</v>

00:24:31.360 --> 00:24:37.120
<v Speaker 2>accused of that before the congregation, and then publicly repent.</v>

00:24:37.280 --> 00:24:41.200
<v Speaker 2>Now that led to some various problems, and so there's some reasons</v>

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<v Speaker 2>those things changed historically.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>And obviously you can recognize there's a bit of a perverse incentive</v>

00:24:47.520 --> 00:24:51.280
<v Speaker 2>there perhaps to be falsely repentant because you were accused publicly.</v>

00:24:52.080 --> 00:24:55.680
<v Speaker 2>And that's what we see happening in the political realm.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>For the Christian, repentance is a real change of mind.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>Again, it is to look at the things that you once did,</v>

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<v Speaker 2>and to find them abhorrent, because you have been given a new</v>

00:25:08.880 --> 00:25:11.600
<v Speaker 2>mind, you have been regenerated.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>You have been given the spirit, and therefore you find sin to</v>

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<v Speaker 2>be repulsive, you turn away from it.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>Which is what this is.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>This is a turning away from sin.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>It is a change in your life.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>It is a real and tangible thing.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>And there may be some who'll be thinking, well, isn't that judging</v>

00:25:30.240 --> 00:25:34.480
<v Speaker 2>someone if we decide if his faith is real based on and</v>

00:25:34.480 --> 00:25:36.560
<v Speaker 2>the answer is yes.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>And we did an entire episode on judgment because of this.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>It is entirely licit, it is in fact commanded that we judge</v>

00:25:45.360 --> 00:25:48.000
<v Speaker 2>others on this sort of basis.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>Because you can tell if someone has had a real change in</v>

00:25:50.880 --> 00:25:53.920
<v Speaker 2>his life, you can tell if he has a living faith by</v>

00:25:53.920 --> 00:25:55.680
<v Speaker 2>what he does.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>If someone says, I repent of X, and then he gets caught</v>

00:26:00.240 --> 00:26:05.840
<v Speaker 2>doing X again and again and again, you very well know that</v>

00:26:05.840 --> 00:26:08.640
<v Speaker 2>that repentance was probably false.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>Now I'm not saying that if you have a particular sin that</v>

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<v Speaker 2>plagues you, you are impenitent because you fall back into that sin.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>That just means that the Means that the ongoing process of sanctification</v>

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<v Speaker 2>is in fact an ongoing process.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>We are all going to have certain sins that are more difficult</v>

00:26:28.800 --> 00:26:32.400
<v Speaker 2>to clean out, more difficult to eject from our lives.</v>

00:26:32.400 --> 00:26:35.200
<v Speaker 2>And we can all think of what our personal sin is in</v>

00:26:35.200 --> 00:26:37.120
<v Speaker 2>this case.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>Repentance in those cases is going to mean looking at that with</v>

00:26:41.520 --> 00:26:46.320
<v Speaker 2>disgust, looking at it, with abhorrence, recognizing that it is sin, and</v>

00:26:46.320 --> 00:26:48.720
<v Speaker 2>wanting to turn away from it.</v>

00:26:48.720 --> 00:26:52.320
<v Speaker 2>And you can find comfort, of course, in the words of Paul.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>You know, the very thing that you want to do is the</v>

00:26:54.640 --> 00:26:57.280
<v Speaker 2>thing you do not do, the very thing that you do not</v>

00:26:57.280 --> 00:26:59.440
<v Speaker 2>want to do is the thing that you do.</v>

00:26:59.440 --> 00:27:01.280
<v Speaker 2>That is part of having original sin.</v>

00:27:01.280 --> 00:27:03.920
<v Speaker 2>It is part of living in a fallen world.</v>

00:27:03.920 --> 00:27:09.200
<v Speaker 2>But repentance is that change of mind, and that desire to do</v>

00:27:09.200 --> 00:27:10.800
<v Speaker 2>differently, and working toward it.</v>

00:27:11.920 --> 00:27:14.560
<v Speaker 2>Because the Christian life is not just one of going, oh I</v>

00:27:14.560 --> 00:27:15.840
<v Speaker 2>wish things were better.</v>

00:27:15.840 --> 00:27:19.280
<v Speaker 2>No. You work toward making things better.</v>

00:27:19.280 --> 00:27:21.280
<v Speaker 2>There are works in the Christian life.</v>

00:27:21.280 --> 00:27:25.920
<v Speaker 2>We're saved by works, Christ's works, we're not saved by our works.</v>

00:27:25.920 --> 00:27:31.520
<v Speaker 2>However, once we have been regenerated and given a living faith, that</v>

00:27:31.520 --> 00:27:36.960
<v Speaker 2>faith will necessarily result in works, a change in behavior, a change</v>

00:27:36.960 --> 00:27:40.400
<v Speaker 2>in mindset, which is what we are looking at when it comes</v>

00:27:40.400 --> 00:27:45.520
<v Speaker 2>to repentance, because repentance again is the Christian life.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>I think one of the real problems that we all have when</v>

00:27:48.880 --> 00:27:51.680
<v Speaker 3>we're trying to wrap our heads around all these things that are</v>

00:27:51.680 --> 00:27:58.560
<v Speaker 3>related to sin and sorrow for sin, asking for forgiveness, receiving forgiveness,</v>

00:27:58.560 --> 00:28:00.880
<v Speaker 3>repenting of those sins.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>I think the difficulty that we all have intellectually, as we're just</v>

00:28:04.320 --> 00:28:06.880
<v Speaker 3>trying to wrap our heads around it, is that we necessarily</v>

00:28:07.760 --> 00:28:11.680
<v Speaker 3>want to look of all all those things on a timeline where</v>

00:28:11.680 --> 00:28:14.800
<v Speaker 3>you have A and then B and then C and then D</v>

00:28:15.040 --> 00:28:19.600
<v Speaker 3>where there's a causal chain where A affects B and B affects</v>

00:28:19.600 --> 00:28:23.760
<v Speaker 3>C where you sinned and therefore you're sorry because you know the</v>

00:28:23.760 --> 00:28:27.120
<v Speaker 3>law, you know God's law, and then you receive the gospel, you</v>

00:28:27.120 --> 00:28:30.160
<v Speaker 3>hear the gospel, and you receive forgiveness.</v>

00:28:30.160 --> 00:28:31.120
<v Speaker 3>And when</v>

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<v Speaker 3>the problem is that when we try to pinpoint, okay, well, am</v>

00:28:35.040 --> 00:28:36.560
<v Speaker 3>I forgiven yet?</v>

00:28:36.560 --> 00:28:38.000
<v Speaker 3>Am I forgiven now?</v>

00:28:38.000 --> 00:28:42.960
<v Speaker 3>Is that it doesn't approach the question the way God does.</v>

00:28:42.960 --> 00:28:45.760
<v Speaker 3>Because time is part of creation.</v>

00:28:45.760 --> 00:28:48.160
<v Speaker 3>Time is not something that limits God.</v>

00:28:48.160 --> 00:28:51.520
<v Speaker 3>God created time in order to order things.</v>

00:28:51.520 --> 00:28:55.680
<v Speaker 3>I can't even say the sentence without using order twice, because that's</v>

00:28:55.680 --> 00:28:59.440
<v Speaker 3>that's the nature of how God is structured everything.</v>

00:28:59.440 --> 00:29:03.200
<v Speaker 3>And so I think the same problem that we face today when</v>

00:29:03.200 --> 00:29:06.560
<v Speaker 3>we're trying to figure out, well, if if I'm sorry and then</v>

00:29:06.560 --> 00:29:09.040
<v Speaker 3>I'm forgiven, but then I have to repent, and if I don't</v>

00:29:08.960 --> 00:29:10.880
<v Speaker 3>repent, I'm not forgiven.</v>

00:29:10.880 --> 00:29:14.880
<v Speaker 3>It seems like we're putting causality into the mix.</v>

00:29:14.880 --> 00:29:17.120
<v Speaker 3>And so one of the things we want to highlight here is</v>

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<v Speaker 3>that that's not the case.</v>

00:29:20.080 --> 00:29:25.120
<v Speaker 3>When you think about Christ's satisfaction for your sins on the cross.</v>

00:29:25.120 --> 00:29:26.800
<v Speaker 3>This happened in the past.</v>

00:29:26.800 --> 00:29:28.800
<v Speaker 3>It happened 2000 years ago.</v>

00:29:28.800 --> 00:29:31.840
<v Speaker 3>It's a concrete thing in time.</v>

00:29:31.840 --> 00:29:33.920
<v Speaker 3>For us, it's in the past.</v>

00:29:33.920 --> 00:29:36.640
<v Speaker 3>For men like Abraham, they were looking thousands of years into the</v>

00:29:37.280 --> 00:29:39.680
<v Speaker 3>future for that event to occur.</v>

00:29:39.680 --> 00:29:44.960
<v Speaker 3>The same benefit that accrues to us from the cross accrue to</v>

00:29:44.960 --> 00:29:48.880
<v Speaker 3>those men who received it by faith before it happened.</v>

00:29:48.880 --> 00:29:52.240
<v Speaker 3>How? Because God operates outside of time.</v>

00:29:52.240 --> 00:29:55.600
<v Speaker 3>When Christ said it is finished on the cross, he was paying</v>

00:29:55.600 --> 00:29:59.440
<v Speaker 3>for every sin in every direction on the timeline.</v>

00:29:59.440 --> 00:30:01.840
<v Speaker 3>And this is actually one of the problems in the early church.</v>

00:30:01.840 --> 00:30:04.880
<v Speaker 3>There was a heresy that sprung up that said that anyone who</v>

00:30:04.880 --> 00:30:08.800
<v Speaker 3>wasn't alive and heard the gospel and and anyone who died before</v>

00:30:08.800 --> 00:30:12.320
<v Speaker 3>Jesus died couldn't be forgiven because they didn't know about it.</v>

00:30:12.320 --> 00:30:16.880
<v Speaker 3>That's because they were trying to look at causality being connected to</v>

00:30:17.200 --> 00:30:20.160
<v Speaker 3>time. And that's simply not how God works.</v>

00:30:20.160 --> 00:30:24.320
<v Speaker 3>Our names were written in the book of life from before eternity.</v>

00:30:24.320 --> 00:30:27.760
<v Speaker 3>God paid the price for every single sin on the cross, he</v>

00:30:27.760 --> 00:30:29.440
<v Speaker 3>redeemed the universe.</v>

00:30:29.440 --> 00:30:34.800
<v Speaker 3>Only those who reject that propitiation on the cross are damned.</v>

00:30:34.800 --> 00:30:38.640
<v Speaker 3>Everyone who receives with faith, which is itself a gift from God,</v>

00:30:38.640 --> 00:30:40.160
<v Speaker 3>is saved.</v>

00:30:40.160 --> 00:30:42.800
<v Speaker 3>And so we've done a number of episodes where we talk about</v>

00:30:42.800 --> 00:30:47.760
<v Speaker 3>how some of this can't really be logically reconciled because you're putting</v>

00:30:47.760 --> 00:30:52.480
<v Speaker 3>cause before effect and you have these double binds where you have</v>

00:30:52.800 --> 00:30:56.080
<v Speaker 3>all men were died for, but not all men received salvation.</v>

00:30:56.080 --> 00:30:57.520
<v Speaker 3>Did God fail on the cross?</v>

00:30:57.520 --> 00:31:00.880
<v Speaker 3>So we've addressed the fact that there are cases where when the</v>

00:31:00.880 --> 00:31:04.880
<v Speaker 3>human mind tries to perceive these things, it just falls apart.</v>

00:31:04.880 --> 00:31:09.680
<v Speaker 3>And it's crucial to acknowledge that sometimes our reason fails us because</v>

00:31:09.680 --> 00:31:12.880
<v Speaker 3>if you don't admit that your reason fails you, you're gonna make</v>

00:31:12.880 --> 00:31:15.680
<v Speaker 3>up lies to try to explain what happened.</v>

00:31:15.680 --> 00:31:17.280
<v Speaker 3>And so I think one of the big problems that we have</v>

00:31:17.280 --> 00:31:21.680
<v Speaker 3>today when we're talking about repentance, when we're understanding correctly that repentance</v>

00:31:21.680 --> 00:31:26.400
<v Speaker 3>is thinking differently than before about our own sin, is that there</v>

00:31:26.400 --> 00:31:31.760
<v Speaker 3>are many places in scripture that say that repentance is necessary for</v>

00:31:31.760 --> 00:31:35.120
<v Speaker 3>salvation, which goes back to what Corey was saying about the order</v>

00:31:35.120 --> 00:31:38.080
<v Speaker 3>of operations in Rome, that you have to do things in a</v>

00:31:38.080 --> 00:31:41.520
<v Speaker 3>series of events and forgiveness comes at the end.</v>

00:31:41.520 --> 00:31:43.040
<v Speaker 3>We reject that.</v>

00:31:43.600 --> 00:31:48.560
<v Speaker 3>When you are sorry for your sins, you receive the forgiveness that</v>

00:31:48.560 --> 00:31:51.280
<v Speaker 3>was paid in the past on the cross.</v>

00:31:51.280 --> 00:31:53.200
<v Speaker 3>You are already forgiven for that.</v>

00:31:53.200 --> 00:31:56.160
<v Speaker 3>You have to simply receive that forgiveness.</v>

00:31:56.560 --> 00:32:02.240
<v Speaker 3>So rather than approaching this question of forgiveness and contrition and repentance</v>

00:32:02.240 --> 00:32:05.360
<v Speaker 3>in terms of a sequence of events, I want to opt for</v>

00:32:05.360 --> 00:32:09.760
<v Speaker 3>an alternative way of viewing all the scriptural passages that talk about</v>

00:32:09.760 --> 00:32:14.960
<v Speaker 3>it that are entirely consistent with the Protestant view of justification.</v>

00:32:14.960 --> 00:32:19.200
<v Speaker 3>And as this, rather than saying this happened and then this happened</v>

00:32:19.280 --> 00:32:22.400
<v Speaker 3>and then this happened and forgiveness is somewhere in there and repentance</v>

00:32:22.800 --> 00:32:25.840
<v Speaker 3>is somewhere in there, and you try to have a timeline where</v>

00:32:25.840 --> 00:32:27.680
<v Speaker 3>there's cause and effect.</v>

00:32:27.680 --> 00:32:34.960
<v Speaker 3>Instead, view every question momentarily as either true or false, where the</v>

00:32:34.960 --> 00:32:38.400
<v Speaker 3>question in any given moment is, did I sin?</v>

00:32:38.400 --> 00:32:42.800
<v Speaker 3>Yes. If I say that I sin and I confess those sins,</v>

00:32:42.800 --> 00:32:43.840
<v Speaker 3>am I forgiven?</v>

00:32:43.840 --> 00:32:45.520
<v Speaker 3>Yes. True.</v>

00:32:45.520 --> 00:32:48.480
<v Speaker 3>If I am forgiven by God and I am sorry for my</v>

00:32:48.480 --> 00:32:51.840
<v Speaker 3>sin, am I going to persist in that sin?</v>

00:32:51.840 --> 00:32:54.160
<v Speaker 3>No. That is the repentance.</v>

00:32:54.160 --> 00:32:56.400
<v Speaker 3>When we repent, when we look at the thing that God has</v>

00:32:56.400 --> 00:32:58.320
<v Speaker 3>told us not to do, when we say, Yeah, I shouldn't have</v>

00:32:58.320 --> 00:32:58.800
<v Speaker 3>done that.</v>

00:32:58.800 --> 00:32:59.840
<v Speaker 3>That was a sin.</v>

00:32:59.840 --> 00:33:01.600
<v Speaker 3>You paid for it on the cross.</v>

00:33:01.600 --> 00:33:05.280
<v Speaker 3>I would have been damned if you had not saved me for</v>

00:33:05.280 --> 00:33:10.880
<v Speaker 3>myself. That is the beginning of repentance, but again, because we as</v>

00:33:10.880 --> 00:33:14.000
<v Speaker 3>I said earlier, repentance and contrition are separate things.</v>

00:33:14.000 --> 00:33:17.040
<v Speaker 3>Contrition is I feel bad about this.</v>

00:33:17.040 --> 00:33:20.480
<v Speaker 3>I feel bad that I nailed Christ to the cross with my</v>

00:33:20.480 --> 00:33:24.560
<v Speaker 3>stupid foolish wickedness, things that I repeat that I know better and</v>

00:33:24.560 --> 00:33:26.480
<v Speaker 3>I still struggle with them.</v>

00:33:26.480 --> 00:33:28.000
<v Speaker 3>That is contrition.</v>

00:33:28.000 --> 00:33:31.600
<v Speaker 3>It's shameful to know that we have done wickedness in the eyes</v>

00:33:31.600 --> 00:33:33.360
<v Speaker 3>of the Lord.</v>

00:33:33.360 --> 00:33:35.440
<v Speaker 3>Repentance is something different.</v>

00:33:35.440 --> 00:33:40.160
<v Speaker 3>Repentance is thinking differently afterward, and as Corey said, in the process</v>

00:33:40.160 --> 00:33:44.000
<v Speaker 3>of sanctification, which is ongoing for the entire Christian life, you look</v>

00:33:44.000 --> 00:33:47.040
<v Speaker 3>at a thing that, you know, perhaps before you were a Christian,</v>

00:33:47.040 --> 00:33:50.560
<v Speaker 3>some of you who are listening today used to not be Christians,</v>

00:33:50.560 --> 00:33:53.360
<v Speaker 3>or you were such weak Christians that you didn't pay any attention,</v>

00:33:53.360 --> 00:33:54.000
<v Speaker 3>you didn't really care.</v>

00:33:54.560 --> 00:33:57.600
<v Speaker 3>When you started caring more, or you care for the first time</v>

00:33:57.680 --> 00:34:00.640
<v Speaker 3>because you received the Holy Spirit like I'm a Christian now, when</v>

00:34:00.640 --> 00:34:04.960
<v Speaker 3>you look back at your life before, you see evil things that</v>

00:34:04.960 --> 00:34:07.840
<v Speaker 3>you shouldn't have done that either you did know better and you</v>

00:34:07.840 --> 00:34:12.240
<v Speaker 3>didn't care, or you didn't know better, and you did them anyway.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>Repenting is saying that is no longer who I am.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>To look back at that and say that was evil, that's not</v>

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<v Speaker 3>me. The evil thing that I did before I knew Christ's love</v>

00:34:22.800 --> 00:34:26.160
<v Speaker 3>is no longer the man I want to be, because I am</v>

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<v Speaker 3>a Christian now.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>I am a brother of Christ.</v>

00:34:28.480 --> 00:34:33.120
<v Speaker 3>I'm a co-heir of God's eternal salvation with him.</v>

00:34:33.120 --> 00:34:36.640
<v Speaker 3>When this repentance occurs, it's an ongoing process.</v>

00:34:36.640 --> 00:34:40.640
<v Speaker 3>Because remember, the definition is think differently afterwards.</v>

00:34:40.640 --> 00:34:43.360
<v Speaker 3>It's thinking, it's actual cognition.</v>

00:34:43.360 --> 00:34:44.720
<v Speaker 3>It's not a feeling.</v>

00:34:44.720 --> 00:34:46.720
<v Speaker 3>It's actually I'm thinking about this.</v>

00:34:46.720 --> 00:34:51.600
<v Speaker 3>I can evaluate as a jurist and determine, yes, what I did</v>

00:34:51.600 --> 00:34:55.840
<v Speaker 3>meets the legal definition of a sin that God describes.</v>

00:34:55.840 --> 00:34:57.600
<v Speaker 3>That's intellectual.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>Differently, thinking differently, is saying the thing that I used to think</v>

00:35:00.880 --> 00:35:02.800
<v Speaker 3>it was okay, I now think is evil.</v>

00:35:02.800 --> 00:35:06.080
<v Speaker 3>I used to listen to this or say this or hang out</v>

00:35:06.080 --> 00:35:08.000
<v Speaker 3>with these people or behave in this way.</v>

00:35:08.000 --> 00:35:11.680
<v Speaker 3>Whatever your own personal foibles were your first personal sentence, they're not</v>

00:35:11.680 --> 00:35:14.480
<v Speaker 3>foibles, the the evil that you did in the past.</v>

00:35:14.480 --> 00:35:16.480
<v Speaker 3>When you look at those things now and you say that's not</v>

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<v Speaker 3>me anymore.</v>

00:35:17.200 --> 00:35:18.800
<v Speaker 3>I'm ashamed that I had done that.</v>

00:35:18.800 --> 00:35:20.720
<v Speaker 3>I am contrite for having done it.</v>

00:35:20.720 --> 00:35:23.920
<v Speaker 3>And I now today reject who I was.</v>

00:35:23.920 --> 00:35:27.360
<v Speaker 3>The sinfulness in my past is no longer who I am or</v>

00:35:27.360 --> 00:35:29.520
<v Speaker 3>who I want to be in the future.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>When you look at the passages in scripture that talk about repentance,</v>

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<v Speaker 3>a lot of times they will say things like, Acts three hundred</v>

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<v Speaker 3>nineteen says repent therefore and turn back that your sins may be</v>

00:35:41.040 --> 00:35:42.000
<v Speaker 3>blotted out.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>Well that sounds like cause and effect.</v>

00:35:43.680 --> 00:35:46.640
<v Speaker 3>It says repent, that's that's causative.</v>

00:35:46.640 --> 00:35:49.280
<v Speaker 3>If you want your sins to be blotted out, you have to</v>

00:35:49.280 --> 00:35:53.280
<v Speaker 3>repent. Luke thirteen three says No, I tell you, but unless you</v>

00:35:53.280 --> 00:35:56.960
<v Speaker 3>repent, you will all likewise perish.</v>

00:35:56.960 --> 00:35:58.480
<v Speaker 3>Matthew four seventeen.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>From that time Jesus began to preach saying repent, for the kingdom</v>

00:36:01.920 --> 00:36:03.280
<v Speaker 3>of heaven is at hand.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>And Jesus is saying repent all the time.</v>

00:36:04.880 --> 00:36:06.720
<v Speaker 3>They're all saying repent all the time.</v>

00:36:06.720 --> 00:36:07.680
<v Speaker 3>And it's the law.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>It's saying repent or you will not be saved.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>Now, this is a problem for us when we're thinking in terms</v>

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<v Speaker 3>of Sin and salvation and forgiveness, because if you say you have</v>

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<v Speaker 3>to do something to be saved, that's works righteousness.</v>

00:36:27.600 --> 00:36:29.440
<v Speaker 3>And that would be works righteousness.</v>

00:36:29.440 --> 00:36:32.560
<v Speaker 3>If I have to do something to be saved, that is me</v>

00:36:32.960 --> 00:36:37.760
<v Speaker 3>affecting my salvation and Jesus is either a partial participant and I'm</v>

00:36:37.760 --> 00:36:41.520
<v Speaker 3>picking up his slack, or maybe if I'm a full-on Pelagian, I'm</v>

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<v Speaker 3>doing the whole thing.</v>

00:36:42.320 --> 00:36:44.800
<v Speaker 3>You know, just Jesus gives me a pat on the head for</v>

00:36:44.800 --> 00:36:45.920
<v Speaker 3>doing such a good job.</v>

00:36:45.920 --> 00:36:47.600
<v Speaker 3>Obviously, that's false doctrine.</v>

00:36:47.920 --> 00:36:52.400
<v Speaker 3>Obviously, we completely reject that which Scripture rejects, because at no point</v>

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<v Speaker 3>do we do anything to affect our salvation.</v>

00:36:56.240 --> 00:36:58.320
<v Speaker 3>So, what does it mean when we would look at all these</v>

00:36:58.320 --> 00:37:02.480
<v Speaker 3>passages in Scripture that say repent that you are not damned?</v>

00:37:02.480 --> 00:37:05.120
<v Speaker 3>Well, if you look at it in the terms that I was</v>

00:37:05.120 --> 00:37:09.120
<v Speaker 3>talking about a minute ago in terms of instantaneous evaluation of whether</v>

00:37:09.120 --> 00:37:12.720
<v Speaker 3>a statement is true or false, then becomes very simple.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>If I am a Christian because I know that Jesus died for</v>

00:37:16.720 --> 00:37:19.680
<v Speaker 3>me and because I confess my sins, if that is true, if</v>

00:37:19.680 --> 00:37:23.520
<v Speaker 3>I'm a Christian, if I have a saved child of God, then</v>

00:37:24.560 --> 00:37:26.720
<v Speaker 3>I must necessarily repent.</v>

00:37:26.720 --> 00:37:31.520
<v Speaker 3>The salvation has already occurred, but the fruit of that salvation, the</v>

00:37:31.520 --> 00:37:36.080
<v Speaker 3>sanctification according to the indwelling of the Holy Spirit, is a life</v>

00:37:36.080 --> 00:37:39.120
<v Speaker 3>of repentance, a life of saying, the evil I was doing before,</v>

00:37:39.120 --> 00:37:40.640
<v Speaker 3>it's not me anymore.</v>

00:37:40.640 --> 00:37:44.960
<v Speaker 3>And so those passages that seem to flip the cause and effect</v>

00:37:44.960 --> 00:37:48.480
<v Speaker 3>of salvation aren't actually doing that once you understand that they're talking</v>

00:37:48.480 --> 00:37:49.600
<v Speaker 3>about the Christian life.</v>

00:37:49.600 --> 00:37:53.200
<v Speaker 3>They're talking to Christians, saying, okay, you've heard the law, you've heard</v>

00:37:53.200 --> 00:37:56.800
<v Speaker 3>the gospel, you've received them with thanksgiving from God.</v>

00:37:56.800 --> 00:37:59.600
<v Speaker 3>You now live a repentant Christian life.</v>

00:37:59.600 --> 00:38:01.760
<v Speaker 3>You think differently afterwards.</v>

00:38:01.760 --> 00:38:04.720
<v Speaker 3>And the afterwards is an ongoing thing.</v>

00:38:04.720 --> 00:38:08.160
<v Speaker 3>So you're not saving yourself by repenting.</v>

00:38:08.160 --> 00:38:12.240
<v Speaker 3>You are bearing the fruit of the Christian who lives a life</v>

00:38:12.320 --> 00:38:15.200
<v Speaker 3>in keeping with the fact that he is saved.</v>

00:38:15.200 --> 00:38:20.400
<v Speaker 3>See, just as we sin because we are sinners, we will repent</v>

00:38:20.400 --> 00:38:22.080
<v Speaker 3>because we are Christians.</v>

00:38:22.080 --> 00:38:25.360
<v Speaker 3>The sin is the fruit of our fallen sinful nature.</v>

00:38:25.360 --> 00:38:30.000
<v Speaker 3>The repentance is the fruit of our Christian sanctified nature.</v>

00:38:30.000 --> 00:38:32.400
<v Speaker 3>And the repentance is disgust with sin.</v>

00:38:32.400 --> 00:38:36.400
<v Speaker 3>The repentance is thinking differently afterwards about all the stuff that we</v>

00:38:36.400 --> 00:38:38.320
<v Speaker 3>were doing before.</v>

00:38:38.320 --> 00:38:43.360
<v Speaker 3>An example from this is in Second Corinthians seven, Paul writes</v>

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<v Speaker 3>For even when we came into Macedonia our bodies had no rest,</v>

00:38:48.960 --> 00:38:52.400
<v Speaker 3>but we were afflicted at every turn, fighting without and fear within.</v>

00:38:52.640 --> 00:38:56.080
<v Speaker 3>But God, who comforts the downcast, comforted us by the coming of</v>

00:38:56.080 --> 00:38:59.520
<v Speaker 3>Titus, and not only by his coming, but also by the comfort</v>

00:38:59.680 --> 00:39:02.960
<v Speaker 3>with which he was comforted by you, as he told us of</v>

00:39:02.960 --> 00:39:06.480
<v Speaker 3>your longing, your mourning, your zeal for me, so that I rejoiced</v>

00:39:06.560 --> 00:39:07.520
<v Speaker 3>still more.</v>

00:39:07.520 --> 00:39:10.560
<v Speaker 3>For even if I had made you grieve with my letter, I</v>

00:39:10.560 --> 00:39:13.840
<v Speaker 3>do not regret it, though I did regret it, for I see</v>

00:39:13.840 --> 00:39:17.200
<v Speaker 3>that that letter grieved you, though only for a while, as it</v>

00:39:17.200 --> 00:39:20.640
<v Speaker 3>is I rejoice, not because you were grieved, but because you were</v>

00:39:20.640 --> 00:39:24.960
<v Speaker 3>grieved into repenting, for you felt a godly grief, so that you</v>

00:39:24.960 --> 00:39:27.360
<v Speaker 3>suffered no loss through us.</v>

00:39:27.360 --> 00:39:32.480
<v Speaker 3>For godly grief produces a repentance that leads to salvation without regret,</v>

00:39:32.480 --> 00:39:35.120
<v Speaker 3>whereas worldly grief produces death.</v>

00:39:35.120 --> 00:39:38.960
<v Speaker 3>For see what earnestness this godly grief has produced in you, but</v>

00:39:38.960 --> 00:39:43.600
<v Speaker 3>also what eagerness to clear yourselves, what indignation, what fear, what longing,</v>

00:39:43.600 --> 00:39:45.440
<v Speaker 3>what zeal, what punishment?</v>

00:39:45.440 --> 00:39:48.960
<v Speaker 3>At every point you have proved yourselves innocent in the matter.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>So although I wrote to you, it was not for the sake</v>

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<v Speaker 3>of the one who did the wrong, nor for the sake of</v>

00:39:53.920 --> 00:39:57.040
<v Speaker 3>the one who suffered the wrong, but in order that your earnestness</v>

00:39:57.040 --> 00:40:00.480
<v Speaker 3>for us might be revealed to you in the sight of God,</v>

00:40:00.480 --> 00:40:02.960
<v Speaker 3>therefore we are comforted.</v>

00:40:02.960 --> 00:40:05.680
<v Speaker 3>So here Paul's talking about this.</v>

00:40:05.680 --> 00:40:10.400
<v Speaker 3>He's talking about the law convicting the consciences of those in Corinth</v>

00:40:11.520 --> 00:40:15.120
<v Speaker 3>and what happened when their consciences were convicted.</v>

00:40:15.120 --> 00:40:21.600
<v Speaker 3>Their godly grief, their contrition produced repentance that leads to salvation without</v>

00:40:21.600 --> 00:40:26.480
<v Speaker 3>regret, because they were set free from the penalty for their sin,</v>

00:40:26.480 --> 00:40:30.240
<v Speaker 3>and they were given a roadmap to live a Christian life.</v>

00:40:30.240 --> 00:40:34.320
<v Speaker 3>Now, they didn't save themselves by following the map because they were</v>

00:40:34.320 --> 00:40:38.160
<v Speaker 3>saved they were able to, because of their repentance, which was the</v>

00:40:38.160 --> 00:40:42.720
<v Speaker 3>fruit of their contrition and of their forgiveness as Christians, they repented.</v>

00:40:42.720 --> 00:40:43.600
<v Speaker 3>They turned away from it.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>And they and they were indic they were indignant at their own</v>

00:40:46.640 --> 00:40:50.160
<v Speaker 3>sins. They were disgusted with what they were before because they thought</v>

00:40:50.160 --> 00:40:51.840
<v Speaker 3>differently afterwards.</v>

00:40:51.840 --> 00:40:53.280
<v Speaker 3>That is the fruit of repentance.</v>

00:40:53.280 --> 00:40:54.400
<v Speaker 3>That's what it looks like.</v>

00:40:54.400 --> 00:40:56.080
<v Speaker 3>That's what it sounds like.</v>

00:40:56.080 --> 00:40:59.360
<v Speaker 3>So when you look at scripture and you're looking at these places</v>

00:40:59.360 --> 00:41:03.040
<v Speaker 3>where it calls us to repentance, it's calling us to to be</v>

00:41:03.040 --> 00:41:06.960
<v Speaker 3>disgusted with what we were doing before and to do something different</v>

00:41:06.960 --> 00:41:08.400
<v Speaker 3>in the future.</v>

00:41:08.400 --> 00:41:14.240
<v Speaker 3>And so talking about timelines again just briefly, repentance is not a</v>

00:41:14.240 --> 00:41:15.360
<v Speaker 3>past tense thing.</v>

00:41:15.360 --> 00:41:19.280
<v Speaker 3>Repentance is the beginning of something that is ongoing.</v>

00:41:19.280 --> 00:41:23.200
<v Speaker 3>For whatever particular sin or ever group of sins of which you</v>

00:41:23.200 --> 00:41:27.360
<v Speaker 3>repent, when you realize that you were doing something sinful against God</v>

00:41:27.760 --> 00:41:30.640
<v Speaker 3>and you repent of it, that is a turn.</v>

00:41:30.640 --> 00:41:33.920
<v Speaker 3>And from that point, ever after, when you look at that sort</v>

00:41:33.920 --> 00:41:37.040
<v Speaker 3>of behavior, that sin, you are grieved by it.</v>

00:41:37.040 --> 00:41:40.480
<v Speaker 3>But you're not grieved as oh no, I'm still doing this thing,</v>

00:41:40.480 --> 00:41:42.160
<v Speaker 3>but that this was evil.</v>

00:41:42.160 --> 00:41:43.440
<v Speaker 3>I can't believe I ever did it.</v>

00:41:43.440 --> 00:41:44.960
<v Speaker 3>Thank God for forgiving me.</v>

00:41:44.960 --> 00:41:46.400
<v Speaker 3>I'm never going back there.</v>

00:41:46.400 --> 00:41:48.160
<v Speaker 3>That is no longer me.</v>

00:41:48.160 --> 00:41:50.880
<v Speaker 3>That is repentance and it's a permanent state.</v>

00:41:50.880 --> 00:41:53.520
<v Speaker 3>If on the other hand, you know, you do something like some</v>

00:41:53.520 --> 00:41:57.200
<v Speaker 3>of these celebrities where they're sorry they got caught, and then a</v>

00:41:57.200 --> 00:42:00.080
<v Speaker 3>few years later they're sorry they got caught again.</v>

00:42:00.080 --> 00:42:01.280
<v Speaker 3>They didn't repent.</v>

00:42:01.280 --> 00:42:02.800
<v Speaker 3>They didn't change a thing.</v>

00:42:02.800 --> 00:42:05.680
<v Speaker 3>All they did was change their tune to get out from under</v>

00:42:05.680 --> 00:42:06.400
<v Speaker 3>the spotlight.</v>

00:42:06.640 --> 00:42:08.720
<v Speaker 3>But that's not how judgment day is going to work.</v>

00:42:08.720 --> 00:42:13.280
<v Speaker 3>That God's not going to miss anything of our sins against Him.</v>

00:42:13.280 --> 00:42:17.440
<v Speaker 3>And so the only godly repentance is a turning away from whatever</v>

00:42:17.440 --> 00:42:18.480
<v Speaker 3>the evil is.</v>

00:42:18.480 --> 00:42:22.160
<v Speaker 3>It's something that's ongoing and it's a fruit of being Christian.</v>

00:42:22.160 --> 00:42:25.920
<v Speaker 3>To emphasize this, you're not saving yourself by repenting.</v>

00:42:25.920 --> 00:42:28.400
<v Speaker 3>You repent because you're saved.</v>

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There

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<v Speaker 2>are three words in play here that are rather circular in their</v>

00:42:34.240 --> 00:42:38.000
<v Speaker 2>references in English and can become a little bit confusing.</v>

00:42:38.000 --> 00:42:41.440
<v Speaker 2>And so I want to make sure that these three words are</v>

00:42:41.440 --> 00:42:44.400
<v Speaker 2>clear in the way that we are using them and in the</v>

00:42:44.400 --> 00:42:47.520
<v Speaker 2>way that Christians should think about them.</v>

00:42:47.520 --> 00:42:53.600
<v Speaker 2>The three words are repentance, contrition, and penitence.</v>

00:42:53.600 --> 00:42:56.240
<v Speaker 2>Repentance has two parts as previously mentioned.</v>

00:42:56.240 --> 00:42:56.880
<v Speaker 2>That would be contrition</v>

00:42:58.160 --> 00:43:00.320
<v Speaker 2>and faith.</v>

00:43:00.320 --> 00:43:07.200
<v Speaker 2>Contrition would be those deep feelings of sorrow with regard to sin.</v>

00:43:07.200 --> 00:43:11.280
<v Speaker 2>These are often called the terrors of conscience in the writings of</v>

00:43:11.680 --> 00:43:14.640
<v Speaker 2>particularly Lutheran theologians.</v>

00:43:14.640 --> 00:43:18.240
<v Speaker 2>So when you see the horror of your sin, the depth of</v>

00:43:18.240 --> 00:43:22.160
<v Speaker 2>your own depravity, that will result in contrition.</v>

00:43:22.160 --> 00:43:24.800
<v Speaker 2>Unless, of course you're impenitent, that would be the other option, that</v>

00:43:24.720 --> 00:43:26.480
<v Speaker 2>is the worst option.</v>

00:43:26.480 --> 00:43:29.600
<v Speaker 2>But you have contrition as a response to that.</v>

00:43:29.600 --> 00:43:33.360
<v Speaker 2>That is that it's really deeper than a feeling of regret and</v>

00:43:33.360 --> 00:43:36.160
<v Speaker 2>remorse, but that is the best way to characterize it that is</v>

00:43:36.560 --> 00:43:43.760
<v Speaker 2>comprehensible. Penitence, on the other hand, is the action of displaying that</v>

00:43:43.760 --> 00:43:48.000
<v Speaker 2>publicly. That's not what is in view here.</v>

00:43:48.000 --> 00:43:54.080
<v Speaker 2>Repentance is the turning away from that sin, the change of mind</v>

00:43:54.240 --> 00:43:57.360
<v Speaker 2>that results in a change in your life.</v>

00:43:57.360 --> 00:44:01.600
<v Speaker 2>So it is important in these discussions to keep these three terms</v>

00:44:01.600 --> 00:44:04.080
<v Speaker 2>clear in your mind.</v>

00:44:04.080 --> 00:44:07.600
<v Speaker 2>Contrition is part of repentance.</v>

00:44:07.600 --> 00:44:14.240
<v Speaker 2>Penitence in really the Roman Catholic conception of it is not part</v>

00:44:14.560 --> 00:44:16.080
<v Speaker 2>of repentance.</v>

00:44:16.080 --> 00:44:20.400
<v Speaker 2>You don't have to make a public show, as it were, of</v>

00:44:20.400 --> 00:44:22.320
<v Speaker 2>your supposed sorrow.</v>

00:44:22.320 --> 00:44:23.680
<v Speaker 2>That can be fake.</v>

00:44:23.680 --> 00:44:24.800
<v Speaker 2>That can be false.</v>

00:44:24.800 --> 00:44:29.520
<v Speaker 2>That can be the celebrity crying on the day the talk program</v>

00:44:30.160 --> 00:44:31.200
<v Speaker 2>or whatever.</v>

00:44:31.200 --> 00:44:34.720
<v Speaker 2>That could be the politician who stands up with teary eyed and</v>

00:44:34.720 --> 00:44:35.200
<v Speaker 2>all that.</v>

00:44:35.840 --> 00:44:37.600
<v Speaker 2>that's not what's in view here.</v>

00:44:37.600 --> 00:44:38.400
<v Speaker 2>That's a show.</v>

00:44:38.400 --> 00:44:41.600
<v Speaker 2>That's putting on a hair shirt and crawling somewhere.</v>

00:44:42.160 --> 00:44:45.600
<v Speaker 2>Repentance is contrition and faith.</v>

00:44:45.600 --> 00:44:51.280
<v Speaker 2>That is the Christian response to seeing the reality of one's sins.</v>

00:44:51.280 --> 00:44:56.880
<v Speaker 2>You feel that depth of sorrow for them because your sins are</v>

00:44:56.880 --> 00:45:00.560
<v Speaker 2>the reason Christ died on the cross.</v>

00:45:00.560 --> 00:45:04.160
<v Speaker 2>Yes, the Jews are the ones who crucified him, and that is</v>

00:45:04.240 --> 00:45:08.080
<v Speaker 2>of course a greater sin, but it is important to recognize that</v>

00:45:08.080 --> 00:45:11.360
<v Speaker 2>each and every one of our own sins put Christ on the</v>

00:45:11.360 --> 00:45:15.760
<v Speaker 2>cross. You feel sorrow for that, that's the contrition, and then you</v>

00:45:15.760 --> 00:45:18.960
<v Speaker 2>have faith in the forgiveness of sins.</v>

00:45:18.960 --> 00:45:20.960
<v Speaker 2>That's repentance.</v>

00:45:20.960 --> 00:45:23.520
<v Speaker 2>And then you turn and live the Christian life.</v>

00:45:23.520 --> 00:45:25.840
<v Speaker 2>That is, of course, the and then what?</v>

00:45:25.840 --> 00:45:30.960
<v Speaker 2>That is the extension of repentance out into the Christian life.</v>

00:45:30.960 --> 00:45:35.600
<v Speaker 2>Because again, as stated a number of times, the Christian life in</v>

00:45:35.600 --> 00:45:38.800
<v Speaker 2>this world is a life of repentance.</v>

00:45:38.800 --> 00:45:42.960
<v Speaker 2>You are going to be repenting of your sins as long as</v>

00:45:42.960 --> 00:45:46.480
<v Speaker 2>you're here, because you are going to continue sinning.</v>

00:45:46.480 --> 00:45:52.400
<v Speaker 2>And as sanctification progresses, you will recognize more and more things in</v>

00:45:52.400 --> 00:45:56.720
<v Speaker 2>your life that are sin that you just thought that wasn't a</v>

00:45:56.720 --> 00:45:57.680
<v Speaker 2>big deal.</v>

00:45:57.680 --> 00:46:01.040
<v Speaker 2>Because that's repentance, that's the change of mind.</v>

00:46:01.040 --> 00:46:04.640
<v Speaker 2>When you recognize the reality of the things you were doing, and</v>

00:46:04.640 --> 00:46:08.800
<v Speaker 2>that reality is that they were sin, you turn, you have a</v>

00:46:08.800 --> 00:46:12.080
<v Speaker 2>change of mind with regard to those, and then you turn from</v>

00:46:12.080 --> 00:46:16.400
<v Speaker 2>them to live the Christian life, to walk away from those things,</v>

00:46:16.400 --> 00:46:18.880
<v Speaker 2>and to walk toward the things of God.</v>

00:46:18.880 --> 00:46:23.120
<v Speaker 2>That is what it means to actually be repentant, to have actual</v>

00:46:23.120 --> 00:46:28.160
<v Speaker 2>repentance. And that is why it is vitally important to keep these</v>

00:46:28.160 --> 00:46:29.440
<v Speaker 2>terms clear.</v>

00:46:29.440 --> 00:46:33.120
<v Speaker 2>Because there is a very strong tendency to use these terms in</v>

00:46:33.120 --> 00:46:38.160
<v Speaker 2>a messy fashion, sometimes deliberately on the part of malefactors, but sometimes</v>

00:46:38.320 --> 00:46:40.640
<v Speaker 2>it's just It's just sloppiness.</v>

00:46:40.640 --> 00:46:44.320
<v Speaker 2>And if we are not clear about what we mean by each</v>

00:46:44.320 --> 00:46:48.640
<v Speaker 2>individual term, then we start to have no idea what we actually</v>

00:46:48.640 --> 00:46:51.520
<v Speaker 2>mean about the core of the Christian faith.</v>

00:46:51.520 --> 00:46:55.120
<v Speaker 2>What does repentance mean if we don't keep these terms clear?</v>

00:46:55.120 --> 00:46:58.640
<v Speaker 2>And so I want you to keep clear in your mind repentance,</v>

00:46:58.640 --> 00:47:00.080
<v Speaker 2>contrition, penitence.</v>

00:47:00.080 --> 00:47:03.120
<v Speaker 2>Penitence is sort of off to the side.</v>

00:47:03.120 --> 00:47:04.880
<v Speaker 2>It is a thing.</v>

00:47:04.880 --> 00:47:07.840
<v Speaker 2>There is some role for it in the Christian life.</v>

00:47:07.840 --> 00:47:10.400
<v Speaker 2>It's not what is directly in view here.</v>

00:47:10.400 --> 00:47:13.120
<v Speaker 2>It is not part of repentance.</v>

00:47:13.120 --> 00:47:16.240
<v Speaker 2>Because repentance is contrition and faith.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>So here's a scriptural example of what it looks like in the</v>

00:47:20.480 --> 00:47:22.720
<v Speaker 3>absence of repentance.</v>

00:47:22.720 --> 00:47:27.360
<v Speaker 3>In Revelation 9, it describes: the rest of mankind who were not</v>

00:47:27.360 --> 00:47:30.320
<v Speaker 3>killed by these plagues did not repent of the works of their</v>

00:47:30.320 --> 00:47:34.240
<v Speaker 3>hands, nor give up worshiping demons and idols of gold and silver,</v>

00:47:34.240 --> 00:47:38.080
<v Speaker 3>and bronze and stone and wood, which cannot see or hear or</v>

00:47:38.080 --> 00:47:42.160
<v Speaker 3>walk, nor did they repent of their murders, or their sorceries, or</v>

00:47:42.160 --> 00:47:46.240
<v Speaker 3>their sexual immorality or their thefts.</v>

00:47:46.240 --> 00:47:48.720
<v Speaker 3>So absent repentance, what happens?</v>

00:47:48.720 --> 00:47:50.320
<v Speaker 3>All the sin persists.</v>

00:47:50.320 --> 00:47:54.480
<v Speaker 3>All the evil that was going on before continues because there's no</v>

00:47:54.480 --> 00:48:00.320
<v Speaker 3>repentance. So So, as Corey mentioned earlier, we're talking about judging, you</v>

00:48:00.320 --> 00:48:00.640
<v Speaker 3>can</v>

00:48:01.520 --> 00:48:06.960
<v Speaker 3>generally, depending on the type of sin, judge the repentance of another</v>

00:48:06.960 --> 00:48:10.800
<v Speaker 3>man. Because again, you're not talking about did he feel bad for</v>

00:48:10.800 --> 00:48:13.040
<v Speaker 3>it? Did he say he was sorry?</v>

00:48:13.040 --> 00:48:14.400
<v Speaker 3>Totally not in view.</v>

00:48:14.400 --> 00:48:17.200
<v Speaker 3>Repentance has nothing to do with that.</v>

00:48:17.200 --> 00:48:19.920
<v Speaker 3>Repentance has to do with did he change?</v>

00:48:19.920 --> 00:48:22.400
<v Speaker 3>Did he stop doing the wickedness?</v>

00:48:22.400 --> 00:48:25.520
<v Speaker 3>Nor did they repent of their murders or their sorceries or their</v>

00:48:25.520 --> 00:48:27.520
<v Speaker 3>sexual immorality or their thefts.</v>

00:48:27.520 --> 00:48:30.000
<v Speaker 3>They kept doing all those things because they didn't repent.</v>

00:48:30.000 --> 00:48:32.320
<v Speaker 3>They were the same before as they were afterward.</v>

00:48:32.320 --> 00:48:33.920
<v Speaker 3>The Christian life is the opposite.</v>

00:48:33.920 --> 00:48:36.880
<v Speaker 3>As Corey said, the Christian life is the things you were doing</v>

00:48:37.040 --> 00:48:40.480
<v Speaker 3>that you thought were hunky dory, you now realize they're actually evil,</v>

00:48:40.480 --> 00:48:42.320
<v Speaker 3>and I have to cut it out.</v>

00:48:42.320 --> 00:48:46.000
<v Speaker 3>And then there's contrition because you're like, Lord have mercy.</v>

00:48:46.000 --> 00:48:48.400
<v Speaker 3>I was doing this for a long time and I didn't even</v>

00:48:48.400 --> 00:48:49.040
<v Speaker 3>think about it.</v>

00:48:49.040 --> 00:48:52.400
<v Speaker 3>And now that I know I'm hardly sorry for them and sincerely</v>

00:48:52.400 --> 00:48:54.720
<v Speaker 3>repent of them.</v>

00:48:54.720 --> 00:48:58.320
<v Speaker 3>Repentance is changing.</v>

00:48:58.320 --> 00:49:04.160
<v Speaker 3>To give an example that's completely outside of Christianity, but it illustrates</v>

00:49:04.160 --> 00:49:08.400
<v Speaker 3>the principle of thinking differently afterward.</v>

00:49:09.040 --> 00:49:12.000
<v Speaker 3>About twelve years ago, I visited my parents.</v>

00:49:12.000 --> 00:49:13.440
<v Speaker 3>It was after I got divorced.</v>

00:49:13.440 --> 00:49:16.560
<v Speaker 3>I think it was probably the spring or summer after that happened.</v>

00:49:16.560 --> 00:49:18.800
<v Speaker 3>I went to them just to I guess I hadn't seen them</v>

00:49:18.800 --> 00:49:20.000
<v Speaker 3>for a few years.</v>

00:49:20.000 --> 00:49:23.360
<v Speaker 3>And when I left, my mom took a couple pictures with me</v>

00:49:23.360 --> 00:49:26.320
<v Speaker 3>and my dad and you know, the family pictures together, and she</v>

00:49:26.320 --> 00:49:27.200
<v Speaker 3>sent them to me.</v>

00:49:27.360 --> 00:49:30.560
<v Speaker 3>And there was one particular picture that when I remember to this</v>

00:49:30.560 --> 00:49:34.000
<v Speaker 3>day, it makes me angry at myself.</v>

00:49:34.000 --> 00:49:36.720
<v Speaker 3>This picture was of me standing next to my dad.</v>

00:49:36.720 --> 00:49:39.680
<v Speaker 3>He's got two inches on me and probably about a hundred pounds.</v>

00:49:39.680 --> 00:49:42.240
<v Speaker 3>He was the smallest guy in his high school and he was</v>

00:49:42.240 --> 00:49:43.520
<v Speaker 3>the strongest guy in his high school.</v>

00:49:43.520 --> 00:49:45.120
<v Speaker 3>He was always very athletic.</v>

00:49:45.120 --> 00:49:47.200
<v Speaker 3>He was a big, strong guy.</v>

00:49:47.200 --> 00:49:51.120
<v Speaker 3>Never built, just incredibly powerful.</v>

00:49:51.120 --> 00:49:54.320
<v Speaker 3>He did manual labor for thirty five years, and then he became</v>

00:49:54.320 --> 00:49:59.280
<v Speaker 3>a pastor and unfortunately he kind of maintained the caloric intake of</v>

00:49:59.280 --> 00:50:02.080
<v Speaker 3>a man who had a much more active lifestyle.</v>

00:50:02.080 --> 00:50:05.600
<v Speaker 3>And on his side of the family, people get big, the men</v>

00:50:05.600 --> 00:50:06.480
<v Speaker 3>and the women.</v>

00:50:06.480 --> 00:50:09.680
<v Speaker 3>My mom's side of the family are wiry hillbillies.</v>

00:50:09.680 --> 00:50:11.440
<v Speaker 3>I more than split the difference.</v>

00:50:11.440 --> 00:50:14.080
<v Speaker 3>I definitely tend towards my mom's side.</v>

00:50:14.080 --> 00:50:17.520
<v Speaker 3>But in this picture that my mom sent me, I was standing</v>

00:50:17.520 --> 00:50:21.440
<v Speaker 3>next to my dad and I look like a skinny fat piece</v>

00:50:21.440 --> 00:50:22.560
<v Speaker 3>of garbage.</v>

00:50:22.560 --> 00:50:25.440
<v Speaker 3>I had a double chin and my second chin was starting to</v>

00:50:25.440 --> 00:50:26.640
<v Speaker 3>maybe grow a third chin.</v>

00:50:26.640 --> 00:50:29.280
<v Speaker 3>My belly was kind of sticking out a little bit from this</v>

00:50:29.280 --> 00:50:31.280
<v Speaker 3>ill-fitting t-shirt I was wearing.</v>

00:50:31.280 --> 00:50:32.480
<v Speaker 3>I had no arms.</v>

00:50:32.480 --> 00:50:35.120
<v Speaker 3>And I looked at that picture that my mom had sent me.</v>

00:50:35.280 --> 00:50:36.320
<v Speaker 3>This was like a week later.</v>

00:50:36.320 --> 00:50:39.440
<v Speaker 3>So like literally the man who was looking at the picture was</v>

00:50:39.440 --> 00:50:40.400
<v Speaker 3>in the picture.</v>

00:50:40.400 --> 00:50:42.240
<v Speaker 3>And I was disgusted.</v>

00:50:42.240 --> 00:50:43.520
<v Speaker 3>I looked at that.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>And the reason I'm giving this example is that one of two</v>

00:50:47.040 --> 00:50:49.680
<v Speaker 3>things could have happened when I saw that.</v>

00:50:49.680 --> 00:50:51.280
<v Speaker 3>There was contrition, obviously.</v>

00:50:51.280 --> 00:50:52.320
<v Speaker 3>Like that's gross.</v>

00:50:52.320 --> 00:50:54.320
<v Speaker 3>That's I don't like that.</v>

00:50:54.320 --> 00:50:57.760
<v Speaker 3>But one possibility would be to wallow in it and say, oh</v>

00:50:57.840 --> 00:50:59.280
<v Speaker 3>wow, I'm terrible.</v>

00:50:59.280 --> 00:51:03.280
<v Speaker 3>Boo-hoo. I'm gonna eat even more because it's all hopeless.</v>

00:51:03.280 --> 00:51:05.680
<v Speaker 3>Or I could repent.</v>

00:51:05.680 --> 00:51:07.520
<v Speaker 3>That's exactly what I did.</v>

00:51:07.520 --> 00:51:09.680
<v Speaker 3>I looked at that picture that I like I said, I can</v>

00:51:09.680 --> 00:51:10.560
<v Speaker 3>still remember it.</v>

00:51:10.560 --> 00:51:13.040
<v Speaker 3>I still get angry when I think about how I looked.</v>

00:51:13.040 --> 00:51:16.800
<v Speaker 3>Because when I looked at myself, I said in that moment, that</v>

00:51:16.960 --> 00:51:18.720
<v Speaker 3>is not who I am.</v>

00:51:18.720 --> 00:51:21.440
<v Speaker 3>Even though I was looking at myself, it was basically looking in</v>

00:51:21.440 --> 00:51:21.760
<v Speaker 3>a mirror.</v>

00:51:21.840 --> 00:51:23.920
<v Speaker 3>I said, this is not who I am.</v>

00:51:23.920 --> 00:51:27.040
<v Speaker 3>And I was disgusted by it and I changed.</v>

00:51:27.040 --> 00:51:31.200
<v Speaker 3>From that moment on until this day, 12 years later, I changed</v>

00:51:31.200 --> 00:51:36.080
<v Speaker 3>my behavior because I did not want to continue down that path</v>

00:51:36.480 --> 00:51:39.600
<v Speaker 3>because my body naturally wants to make my butt bigger and my</v>

00:51:39.600 --> 00:51:44.000
<v Speaker 3>belly bigger and I'm naturally lazy and if I just eat what</v>

00:51:44.000 --> 00:51:47.040
<v Speaker 3>I want and do what I want without any thought or consideration</v>

00:51:47.200 --> 00:51:49.760
<v Speaker 3>I'm gonna turn into a piece of crap.</v>

00:51:49.760 --> 00:51:51.120
<v Speaker 3>It's not special.</v>

00:51:51.120 --> 00:51:53.520
<v Speaker 3>I think that applies to most of us.</v>

00:51:53.520 --> 00:51:55.920
<v Speaker 3>But when I saw that, I could have gone in one of</v>

00:51:56.000 --> 00:51:56.640
<v Speaker 3>two ways.</v>

00:51:56.640 --> 00:52:00.480
<v Speaker 3>I could have wallowed and gotten even pudgier and eventually maybe ended</v>

00:52:00.480 --> 00:52:01.520
<v Speaker 3>up like my dad.</v>

00:52:01.520 --> 00:52:03.520
<v Speaker 3>Or I could have gone the different direction.</v>

00:52:03.520 --> 00:52:04.640
<v Speaker 3>And that's what I did.</v>

00:52:04.640 --> 00:52:07.520
<v Speaker 3>And so that is an example of repentance.</v>

00:52:07.520 --> 00:52:10.640
<v Speaker 3>And the reason I'm highlighting something that has nothing whatsoever to do</v>

00:52:10.640 --> 00:52:15.920
<v Speaker 3>with with Jesus or with forgiveness of sins, although becoming obese, I</v>

00:52:15.920 --> 00:52:19.280
<v Speaker 3>think is is a moral matter, it's not simply an aesthetic one.</v>

00:52:19.280 --> 00:52:21.440
<v Speaker 3>It's a discussion for another day.</v>

00:52:21.440 --> 00:52:25.040
<v Speaker 3>The simple fact is that when you look at repentance in the</v>

00:52:25.040 --> 00:52:30.400
<v Speaker 3>scriptural sense as thinking differently afterward, this is a perfect example because</v>

00:52:31.040 --> 00:52:36.480
<v Speaker 3>that moment until today for me personally has been one of repentance.</v>

00:52:36.480 --> 00:52:38.880
<v Speaker 3>I still get mad at that picture because I'm that's not who</v>

00:52:38.880 --> 00:52:39.760
<v Speaker 3>I am.</v>

00:52:39.760 --> 00:52:45.440
<v Speaker 3>And my waist size is three four inches smaller now, I've kept</v>

00:52:45.440 --> 00:52:46.000
<v Speaker 3>it off.</v>

00:52:46.000 --> 00:52:47.440
<v Speaker 3>And that takes work.</v>

00:52:47.440 --> 00:52:49.840
<v Speaker 3>And sometimes I do a little better or a little worse one</v>

00:52:49.840 --> 00:52:51.360
<v Speaker 3>season to the next.</v>

00:52:51.360 --> 00:52:56.880
<v Speaker 3>But I will never permit myself to become that again because I</v>

00:52:56.880 --> 00:52:59.520
<v Speaker 3>looked at and said that's not who I am.</v>

00:52:59.520 --> 00:53:01.600
<v Speaker 3>Repentance looks like that.</v>

00:53:01.600 --> 00:53:05.920
<v Speaker 3>And so again, this isn't a moral example, but if I had</v>

00:53:05.920 --> 00:53:09.600
<v Speaker 3>told you 12 years ago, yeah, I feel sorry about being out</v>

00:53:09.600 --> 00:53:10.400
<v Speaker 3>of shape.</v>

00:53:10.400 --> 00:53:11.520
<v Speaker 3>I repent.</v>

00:53:11.520 --> 00:53:13.200
<v Speaker 3>And then you looked at me today.</v>

00:53:13.200 --> 00:53:16.480
<v Speaker 3>You wouldn't have to introspect my mind to know whether or not</v>

00:53:16.480 --> 00:53:18.080
<v Speaker 3>I had actually repented.</v>

00:53:18.080 --> 00:53:19.280
<v Speaker 3>You could look at my waistline.</v>

00:53:19.280 --> 00:53:20.960
<v Speaker 3>Say, yeah, you kept it off.</v>

00:53:20.960 --> 00:53:25.040
<v Speaker 3>You got rid of it and you don't have you're not misshapen.</v>

00:53:25.040 --> 00:53:27.280
<v Speaker 3>You look like a proper human being.</v>

00:53:27.280 --> 00:53:30.720
<v Speaker 3>That is a symptom of repentance in that particular situation.</v>

00:53:30.720 --> 00:53:34.880
<v Speaker 3>It was a change of mind that requires daily self-discipline.</v>

00:53:35.920 --> 00:53:42.480
<v Speaker 3>Everything, every sinful proclivity that we have is one that requires daily</v>

00:53:42.480 --> 00:53:47.920
<v Speaker 3>self-discipline. Whatever appetites you have, whether they're something sinful or they're just</v>

00:53:47.920 --> 00:53:51.600
<v Speaker 3>something that's you know generally not that great for you, when you</v>

00:53:51.600 --> 00:53:56.480
<v Speaker 3>go down that path casually with indifference without thinking about it, you</v>

00:53:56.480 --> 00:53:58.000
<v Speaker 3>end up getting worse and worse.</v>

00:53:58.000 --> 00:54:02.000
<v Speaker 3>That's kind of the sinful entropy of the world.</v>

00:54:02.000 --> 00:54:06.320
<v Speaker 3>It takes actual effort and concentration on a daily basis to say,</v>

00:54:06.480 --> 00:54:08.320
<v Speaker 3>no, I'm not going to do this.</v>

00:54:08.320 --> 00:54:10.000
<v Speaker 3>I'm not going to repeat this error.</v>

00:54:10.000 --> 00:54:12.160
<v Speaker 3>I'm not going to return to that trough and go back to</v>

00:54:12.160 --> 00:54:16.720
<v Speaker 3>the sinful deeds that I was engaging in before.</v>

00:54:16.720 --> 00:54:18.800
<v Speaker 3>Repentance is observable.</v>

00:54:18.800 --> 00:54:22.000
<v Speaker 3>It's not it's not inward permanently.</v>

00:54:22.000 --> 00:54:24.720
<v Speaker 3>Now again, some sins are entirely inward and no one would ever</v>

00:54:24.720 --> 00:54:28.160
<v Speaker 3>know. But most of the things that we do wrong, most of</v>

00:54:28.160 --> 00:54:32.080
<v Speaker 3>the things that we have to actually fix, they're gonna be visible.</v>

00:54:32.080 --> 00:54:35.200
<v Speaker 3>You know, as Corey and I have been talking for years now</v>

00:54:35.280 --> 00:54:39.920
<v Speaker 3>to especially younger guys Who are becoming much more engaged in their</v>

00:54:39.920 --> 00:54:45.520
<v Speaker 3>faith in some result of joining churches and talking to us?</v>

00:54:45.520 --> 00:54:49.520
<v Speaker 3>One of the common refrains among those young guys, or anyone, is</v>

00:54:49.520 --> 00:54:53.360
<v Speaker 3>that once you become a Christian or you actually become engaged in</v>

00:54:53.360 --> 00:54:56.160
<v Speaker 3>your Christian faith, it was just sort of you're a casual before</v>

00:54:56.320 --> 00:55:00.000
<v Speaker 3>and now you actually take it seriously, your friends are going to</v>

00:55:00.000 --> 00:55:01.040
<v Speaker 3>treat you differently.</v>

00:55:01.200 --> 00:55:03.440
<v Speaker 3>They may well cease to be your friends.</v>

00:55:03.440 --> 00:55:08.400
<v Speaker 3>It's very common for someone who becomes engaged in his Christian faith</v>

00:55:08.400 --> 00:55:12.160
<v Speaker 3>to lose the friends that he had before who just aren't coming</v>

00:55:12.160 --> 00:55:13.040
<v Speaker 3>along with him.</v>

00:55:13.040 --> 00:55:18.880
<v Speaker 3>And it's not that he became some sort of moralizing, pietistical, judgmental</v>

00:55:18.880 --> 00:55:20.960
<v Speaker 3>guy that no one wants to be around.</v>

00:55:20.960 --> 00:55:26.000
<v Speaker 3>They're simply made uncomfortable by the fact that this guy no longer</v>

00:55:26.000 --> 00:55:29.040
<v Speaker 3>is interested in the evil that they are because they don't think</v>

00:55:29.040 --> 00:55:31.920
<v Speaker 3>it's evil and they don't want a guy around who's gonna say</v>

00:55:31.920 --> 00:55:36.400
<v Speaker 3>no, or that they know might think no, regardless of the situation.</v>

00:55:36.400 --> 00:55:39.760
<v Speaker 3>So it's very common that guys when they get into their faith</v>

00:55:40.320 --> 00:55:41.680
<v Speaker 3>lose their circle of friends.</v>

00:55:41.680 --> 00:55:44.480
<v Speaker 3>It changes and that's it's difficult.</v>

00:55:44.480 --> 00:55:47.280
<v Speaker 3>You know, that's that's one of the ways that Satan really comes</v>

00:55:47.280 --> 00:55:52.480
<v Speaker 3>after you when when you're first getting back into God's things is</v>

00:55:52.480 --> 00:55:53.520
<v Speaker 3>it gets hard.</v>

00:55:53.520 --> 00:55:57.680
<v Speaker 3>It gets really hard for a while because there's a transition as</v>

00:55:57.680 --> 00:55:59.440
<v Speaker 3>a result of repentance.</v>

00:55:59.440 --> 00:56:03.040
<v Speaker 3>Because you think differently afterward when you're a faithful Christian.</v>

00:56:03.040 --> 00:56:04.880
<v Speaker 3>You're like, well, I can't do that anymore.</v>

00:56:04.880 --> 00:56:06.480
<v Speaker 3>I can't go to that place.</v>

00:56:06.480 --> 00:56:09.760
<v Speaker 3>I can't go with those people in that circumstance because it is</v>

00:56:09.760 --> 00:56:13.440
<v Speaker 3>sinful or because I know it will lead to me committing sins.</v>

00:56:13.440 --> 00:56:14.720
<v Speaker 3>I just can't do it.</v>

00:56:14.720 --> 00:56:18.720
<v Speaker 3>And so when you think differently after that sort of turning, it</v>

00:56:18.720 --> 00:56:19.600
<v Speaker 3>changes your life.</v>

00:56:19.600 --> 00:56:20.640
<v Speaker 3>And other people notice.</v>

00:56:20.640 --> 00:56:23.200
<v Speaker 3>And sometimes you pay the price for it, at least for a</v>

00:56:23.200 --> 00:56:27.360
<v Speaker 3>while. You know, you may have to completely change your social circle.</v>

00:56:27.360 --> 00:56:29.120
<v Speaker 3>I know some guys where that's happened.</v>

00:56:29.120 --> 00:56:32.960
<v Speaker 3>Like the they they lost their friends because their friends wouldn't tolerate</v>

00:56:32.960 --> 00:56:35.360
<v Speaker 3>a crime A Christian in their midst.</v>

00:56:35.360 --> 00:56:40.640
<v Speaker 3>And that's God, that's Satan trying to unwind that man's repentance.</v>

00:56:40.640 --> 00:56:41.440
<v Speaker 3>Saying, you know what?</v>

00:56:41.440 --> 00:56:44.560
<v Speaker 3>If you just, if you gave up on all this Jesus stuff,</v>

00:56:44.560 --> 00:56:46.240
<v Speaker 3>you could have your old life back.</v>

00:56:46.240 --> 00:56:50.560
<v Speaker 3>Wouldn't that be nice to have the routine that you're familiar with?</v>

00:56:50.560 --> 00:56:53.600
<v Speaker 3>Repentance is saying no, I don't care.</v>

00:56:53.600 --> 00:56:57.760
<v Speaker 3>I miss 'em, but if that's the price of me being faithful</v>

00:56:57.760 --> 00:56:59.920
<v Speaker 3>to God, I'll happily bear it.</v>

00:56:59.920 --> 00:57:02.400
<v Speaker 3>And repentance is sticking with it.</v>

00:57:02.400 --> 00:57:05.520
<v Speaker 3>It's the afterword of the entire equation.</v>

00:57:05.520 --> 00:57:08.960
<v Speaker 3>Because if there's no afterword, if there's just well, I I felt</v>

00:57:08.960 --> 00:57:11.200
<v Speaker 3>bad about it and then I just kept on my day.</v>

00:57:11.200 --> 00:57:14.080
<v Speaker 3>You haven't repented, even if you're contrite.</v>

00:57:14.080 --> 00:57:18.560
<v Speaker 3>If the if the thing that changed you doesn't actually bear fruit,</v>

00:57:18.560 --> 00:57:20.720
<v Speaker 3>then it was no change at all.</v>

00:57:20.720 --> 00:57:24.160
<v Speaker 3>Even if you felt it, even if you briefly thought it, if</v>

00:57:24.320 --> 00:57:25.680
<v Speaker 3>you don't stick with it.</v>

00:57:25.920 --> 00:57:28.960
<v Speaker 3>It's as I stuck with not eating so much crap that I</v>

00:57:28.960 --> 00:57:30.640
<v Speaker 3>would be gross.</v>

00:57:30.640 --> 00:57:33.120
<v Speaker 3>I it'd be very easy to.</v>

00:57:33.120 --> 00:57:36.160
<v Speaker 3>My body wants to, my my appetite wants to.</v>

00:57:36.160 --> 00:57:38.720
<v Speaker 3>I have to say no to myself.</v>

00:57:38.720 --> 00:57:43.200
<v Speaker 3>And it takes daily repentance to keep from getting fat.</v>

00:57:43.200 --> 00:57:45.760
<v Speaker 3>It takes daily repentance in whatever you're doing.</v>

00:57:45.760 --> 00:57:51.200
<v Speaker 3>Again, that personal, secular, profane example is the same sort of thing</v>

00:57:51.200 --> 00:57:56.240
<v Speaker 3>as the spiritual examples because it's the same inward mental active process.</v>

00:57:56.240 --> 00:57:57.680
<v Speaker 3>That's a crucial thing here.</v>

00:57:57.680 --> 00:58:01.120
<v Speaker 3>Repentance is active, it's mental, it's ongoing.</v>

00:58:01.120 --> 00:58:04.160
<v Speaker 3>It has a beginning, but it cannot have an end.</v>

00:58:04.640 --> 00:58:07.120
<v Speaker 3>I think that's the crucial thing to understand about repentance.</v>

00:58:07.120 --> 00:58:08.400
<v Speaker 3>It's not a flash in the pan.</v>

00:58:08.400 --> 00:58:10.960
<v Speaker 3>Your contrition is momentary.</v>

00:58:10.960 --> 00:58:12.320
<v Speaker 3>It should be, generally.</v>

00:58:12.320 --> 00:58:14.720
<v Speaker 3>Like if if you're contrite for something that you did in the</v>

00:58:14.720 --> 00:58:18.960
<v Speaker 3>past, you're hardly sorry for it, you sincerely repent of it.</v>

00:58:18.960 --> 00:58:21.520
<v Speaker 3>You leave the guilt at the cross.</v>

00:58:21.520 --> 00:58:23.360
<v Speaker 3>You know that you are forgiven.</v>

00:58:23.360 --> 00:58:27.200
<v Speaker 3>And so when you look back on it, years later, it's only</v>

00:58:27.200 --> 00:58:28.240
<v Speaker 3>in repentance.</v>

00:58:28.240 --> 00:58:33.840
<v Speaker 3>There shouldn't necessarily be ongoing shame and guilt for that past thing,</v>

00:58:33.840 --> 00:58:36.000
<v Speaker 3>but there is ongoing disgust.</v>

00:58:36.000 --> 00:58:37.680
<v Speaker 3>Like I can't believe I did that.</v>

00:58:37.680 --> 00:58:40.880
<v Speaker 3>I mentioned the past I personally have things I look back like.</v>

00:58:40.880 --> 00:58:42.000
<v Speaker 3>What were you thinking?</v>

00:58:42.000 --> 00:58:42.640
<v Speaker 3>This is disgusting.</v>

00:58:42.640 --> 00:58:44.720
<v Speaker 3>How could you possibly do this?</v>

00:58:44.720 --> 00:58:45.920
<v Speaker 3>That's repentance.</v>

00:58:45.920 --> 00:58:49.920
<v Speaker 3>It's not being weighed down by guilt or by feeling that somehow</v>

00:58:49.920 --> 00:58:51.200
<v Speaker 3>I'm not forgiven.</v>

00:58:51.200 --> 00:58:54.720
<v Speaker 3>I know that only God's forgiveness can fix those things, but the</v>

00:58:54.720 --> 00:58:56.560
<v Speaker 3>repentance is saying, yeah, it's not me anymore.</v>

00:58:56.800 --> 00:58:59.200
<v Speaker 3>I'm not going to be that again.</v>

00:58:59.200 --> 00:59:02.000
<v Speaker 3>And if it means that, you know, there's certain aisles in the</v>

00:59:02.000 --> 00:59:06.320
<v Speaker 3>grocery store that I don't walk down because my self-control ends when</v>

00:59:06.320 --> 00:59:08.960
<v Speaker 3>I'm standing in front of a certain aisle, I still go down</v>

00:59:08.960 --> 00:59:09.840
<v Speaker 3>the aisle.</v>

00:59:09.840 --> 00:59:13.040
<v Speaker 3>Other people have other challenges, and some of them again, some of</v>

00:59:13.040 --> 00:59:15.680
<v Speaker 3>them are moral, some of them are just matters of wisdom, where</v>

00:59:15.680 --> 00:59:19.680
<v Speaker 3>it's not necessarily like it's sinful to eat frozen pizza or something.</v>

00:59:19.680 --> 00:59:23.520
<v Speaker 3>I'm just saying that when you actually have an inward change, it</v>

00:59:23.520 --> 00:59:25.520
<v Speaker 3>will continue to bear fruit.</v>

00:59:25.520 --> 00:59:31.280
<v Speaker 3>And so unfortunately, especially in Protestantism, because we have fled so far</v>

00:59:31.600 --> 00:59:36.400
<v Speaker 3>from the Roman penitential system where these there are these inputs and</v>

00:59:36.400 --> 00:59:39.840
<v Speaker 3>outputs, and at the very end of the process of actions, then</v>

00:59:39.840 --> 00:59:41.120
<v Speaker 3>you're forgiven.</v>

00:59:41.120 --> 00:59:44.640
<v Speaker 3>Because we know that that's nonsense, we forget that there's still a</v>

00:59:44.640 --> 00:59:48.720
<v Speaker 3>process. The process is that you're forgiven, you're a Christian.</v>

00:59:48.720 --> 00:59:49.680
<v Speaker 3>Go and sin no more.</v>

00:59:50.560 --> 00:59:53.760
<v Speaker 3>Don't keep doing the things that you were doing before, because they're</v>

00:59:53.760 --> 00:59:55.120
<v Speaker 3>evil, you know they're evil.</v>

00:59:55.120 --> 00:59:58.160
<v Speaker 3>You hate that they were evil, you reject them.</v>

00:59:58.160 --> 01:00:02.560
<v Speaker 3>Repentance is is a turning, it is a change of mind, and</v>

01:00:02.560 --> 01:00:06.160
<v Speaker 3>it is a rejection of that which you used to be.</v>

01:00:06.160 --> 01:00:09.040
<v Speaker 3>That's sometimes it's hard, sometimes it's easy.</v>

01:00:09.040 --> 01:00:13.520
<v Speaker 3>And that's describing it as the process of sanctification is an important</v>

01:00:13.520 --> 01:00:17.440
<v Speaker 3>part of that, is recognizing what Paul said in Romans 7 that</v>

01:00:17.440 --> 01:00:20.960
<v Speaker 3>even though he knows that Jesus died for him and he wants</v>

01:00:20.960 --> 01:00:25.600
<v Speaker 3>to do good, his own sinful flesh continues to seek after those</v>

01:00:25.600 --> 01:00:27.520
<v Speaker 3>things which are evil.</v>

01:00:27.520 --> 01:00:31.360
<v Speaker 3>We're all at war with ourselves because we have our sinful nature</v>

01:00:31.440 --> 01:00:34.400
<v Speaker 3>and we have our sanctified nature at the same time.</v>

01:00:34.400 --> 01:00:40.720
<v Speaker 3>And repentance is the intellectual process of the sanctified nature rejecting the</v>

01:00:40.720 --> 01:00:41.840
<v Speaker 3>sinful nature.</v>

01:00:41.840 --> 01:00:44.080
<v Speaker 3>Basically you have to be your own nanny.</v>

01:00:44.080 --> 01:00:45.360
<v Speaker 3>You have to say no.</v>

01:00:45.360 --> 01:00:47.600
<v Speaker 3>I know that I want to do that evil thing.</v>

01:00:47.600 --> 01:00:49.760
<v Speaker 3>God says no, I'm not gonna do it.</v>

01:00:49.760 --> 01:00:52.640
<v Speaker 3>When you're an adult, there's no one necessarily around to yell at</v>

01:00:52.640 --> 01:00:55.600
<v Speaker 3>you. There's no one to know if you're doing something bad.</v>

01:00:55.600 --> 01:00:56.880
<v Speaker 3>You have to know for yourself.</v>

01:00:56.880 --> 01:00:59.840
<v Speaker 3>And so the Holy Spirit gives us the power to be aware</v>

01:01:00.000 --> 01:01:01.920
<v Speaker 3>and to resist the devil.</v>

01:01:01.920 --> 01:01:03.280
<v Speaker 3>We can't do it on our own.</v>

01:01:03.280 --> 01:01:04.160
<v Speaker 3>We don't want to.</v>

01:01:04.160 --> 01:01:06.640
<v Speaker 3>If there were no God, why would you bother resisting the devil?</v>

01:01:06.640 --> 01:01:08.320
<v Speaker 3>He gives us fun stuff.</v>

01:01:08.320 --> 01:01:09.600
<v Speaker 3>All the all the evil thing.</v>

01:01:09.600 --> 01:01:15.520
<v Speaker 3>Like people enjoy evil because there's some upside temporarily, but there's there's</v>

01:01:15.520 --> 01:01:16.960
<v Speaker 3>something juicy about it.</v>

01:01:16.960 --> 01:01:20.960
<v Speaker 3>That's how he gets people is that there's some fun, there's some</v>

01:01:20.960 --> 01:01:22.560
<v Speaker 3>good to doing evil.</v>

01:01:22.560 --> 01:01:27.600
<v Speaker 3>It's not true good, it's momentary, and it always backfires because Satan</v>

01:01:27.600 --> 01:01:29.120
<v Speaker 3>poisons everything.</v>

01:01:29.120 --> 01:01:33.520
<v Speaker 3>But it's not like when men pursue evil, it's always only ever</v>

01:01:33.520 --> 01:01:35.520
<v Speaker 3>pursuing complete destruction.</v>

01:01:35.520 --> 01:01:38.240
<v Speaker 3>There's usually some some putative upset.</v>

01:01:38.240 --> 01:01:42.960
<v Speaker 3>And so it requires conscious effort and a repentant heart and a</v>

01:01:42.960 --> 01:01:48.080
<v Speaker 3>repentant mind to know you have to guard yourself against whatever evil</v>

01:01:48.080 --> 01:01:49.360
<v Speaker 3>is in your heart.</v>

01:01:49.360 --> 01:01:53.120
<v Speaker 3>Your evil, your struggles may well be different than mine.</v>

01:01:53.360 --> 01:01:56.560
<v Speaker 3>I've talked about like food as an example, again not necessarily one</v>

01:01:56.560 --> 01:01:59.200
<v Speaker 3>of sin, although gluttony is certainly a sin.</v>

01:01:59.440 --> 01:02:03.360
<v Speaker 3>Things like alcohol abuse are another prime example of this.</v>

01:02:03.360 --> 01:02:05.760
<v Speaker 3>I have no problem whatsoever with alcohol.</v>

01:02:05.760 --> 01:02:08.160
<v Speaker 3>I have a room full of scotch in my house.</v>

01:02:08.160 --> 01:02:10.560
<v Speaker 3>If I and some people think, oh man, that you must have</v>

01:02:10.560 --> 01:02:11.280
<v Speaker 3>a drinking problem.</v>

01:02:11.280 --> 01:02:14.640
<v Speaker 3>Well, if I had a drinking problem, I wouldn't have bottles been</v>

01:02:14.640 --> 01:02:15.840
<v Speaker 3>open for fifteen years.</v>

01:02:15.840 --> 01:02:17.600
<v Speaker 3>It wouldn't last that long.</v>

01:02:17.600 --> 01:02:20.160
<v Speaker 3>I could go for the rest of my life without ever drinking</v>

01:02:20.160 --> 01:02:21.120
<v Speaker 3>alcohol again.</v>

01:02:21.120 --> 01:02:22.480
<v Speaker 3>I wouldn't particularly care.</v>

01:02:22.480 --> 01:02:24.720
<v Speaker 3>I'd be a little sad because I think it's tasty.</v>

01:02:24.720 --> 01:02:26.080
<v Speaker 3>But that's why I drink it.</v>

01:02:26.080 --> 01:02:30.800
<v Speaker 3>Some people, whether it's genetic or it's behavioral or personality, don't have</v>

01:02:30.800 --> 01:02:31.840
<v Speaker 3>that option.</v>

01:02:31.840 --> 01:02:35.520
<v Speaker 3>When they are exposed to alcohol, when they drink, they don't just</v>

01:02:35.520 --> 01:02:39.280
<v Speaker 3>have a glass in an evening or two glasses, they finish the</v>

01:02:39.280 --> 01:02:42.640
<v Speaker 3>bottle, they finish two bottles.</v>

01:02:42.640 --> 01:02:46.800
<v Speaker 3>There's a difference in the struggles that we have.</v>

01:02:46.800 --> 01:02:50.640
<v Speaker 3>And so that's, you know, I think that when when someone realizes</v>

01:02:50.960 --> 01:02:53.760
<v Speaker 3>that they're an alcoholic and I'm sure that some of you are</v>

01:02:53.760 --> 01:02:56.960
<v Speaker 3>listening struggle with this and I I give this example because it's</v>

01:02:56.960 --> 01:03:00.480
<v Speaker 3>a concrete one that I think we all have some understanding of.</v>

01:03:00.480 --> 01:03:03.920
<v Speaker 3>Now, I have no personal, I I try to be empathetic, but</v>

01:03:03.920 --> 01:03:06.080
<v Speaker 3>again, like I don't know what it's like to have that sort</v>

01:03:06.080 --> 01:03:07.280
<v Speaker 3>of desire for a bottle.</v>

01:03:07.280 --> 01:03:09.280
<v Speaker 3>Like for me, it's just it's just tasty.</v>

01:03:09.280 --> 01:03:12.480
<v Speaker 3>But it doesn't I don't seek obliteration in alcohol.</v>

01:03:12.480 --> 01:03:14.480
<v Speaker 3>It's just I think it's a tasty beverage.</v>

01:03:14.480 --> 01:03:17.040
<v Speaker 3>And that's the end of it, which is why I'm in I'm</v>

01:03:17.040 --> 01:03:20.960
<v Speaker 3>indifferent. If you are someone who struggles or you know someone who</v>

01:03:20.960 --> 01:03:25.360
<v Speaker 3>struggles with the actual addiction to alcohol where it's not, they don't</v>

01:03:25.280 --> 01:03:26.640
<v Speaker 3>care what it tastes like.</v>

01:03:26.640 --> 01:03:30.080
<v Speaker 3>They need to find whatever is at the bottom of that bottle.</v>

01:03:30.080 --> 01:03:32.160
<v Speaker 3>That's a completely different thing.</v>

01:03:32.160 --> 01:03:35.920
<v Speaker 3>And so I think the the 12-step program is parts of it</v>

01:03:36.240 --> 01:03:42.240
<v Speaker 3>are a good example of repentance because it's not simply, oh boo-hoo,</v>

01:03:42.240 --> 01:03:43.360
<v Speaker 3>I I'm an addict.</v>

01:03:43.760 --> 01:03:44.720
<v Speaker 3>it's so sad.</v>

01:03:44.720 --> 01:03:47.200
<v Speaker 3>I should feel bad about this and Jesus will forgive me.</v>

01:03:47.200 --> 01:03:48.000
<v Speaker 3>That's no.</v>

01:03:48.000 --> 01:03:49.600
<v Speaker 3>You have to amend your life.</v>

01:03:49.600 --> 01:03:53.680
<v Speaker 3>You have to stop doing what you've been doing because it's destructive.</v>

01:03:53.680 --> 01:03:54.960
<v Speaker 3>It's destructive to yourself.</v>

01:03:54.960 --> 01:03:57.280
<v Speaker 3>It's destructive to everyone around you.</v>

01:03:57.280 --> 01:04:02.080
<v Speaker 3>And so a crucial part of that process for someone fighting that</v>

01:04:02.080 --> 01:04:05.680
<v Speaker 3>sort of addiction is actual repentance.</v>

01:04:05.680 --> 01:04:07.840
<v Speaker 3>Thinking differently afterwards.</v>

01:04:07.840 --> 01:04:12.080
<v Speaker 3>And unfortunately for someone with substance abuse problems, it's usually when they</v>

01:04:12.080 --> 01:04:13.280
<v Speaker 3>hit rock bottom.</v>

01:04:13.280 --> 01:04:17.280
<v Speaker 3>It's usually it can't begin with the intellectual ascent to say, man,</v>

01:04:17.280 --> 01:04:18.560
<v Speaker 3>I'm drinking too much.</v>

01:04:18.560 --> 01:04:19.600
<v Speaker 3>I should cut that out.</v>

01:04:19.600 --> 01:04:22.880
<v Speaker 3>Or I have some other substance abuse problem, I should do that</v>

01:04:22.880 --> 01:04:28.320
<v Speaker 3>less. Usually something so bad has to happen that someone realizes either</v>

01:04:28.320 --> 01:04:30.400
<v Speaker 3>I stop this or I'm going to die.</v>

01:04:30.400 --> 01:04:34.720
<v Speaker 3>Unfortunately that's usually what it takes for the repentance to occur.</v>

01:04:34.720 --> 01:04:38.320
<v Speaker 3>And because the repentance is intellectual, from that point forward you can</v>

01:04:38.320 --> 01:04:40.000
<v Speaker 3>be intellectually committed to it.</v>

01:04:40.000 --> 01:04:43.680
<v Speaker 3>But it takes that battle of the wills, of the the man</v>

01:04:43.680 --> 01:04:47.920
<v Speaker 3>or the woman in their mind resisting their own temptation to do</v>

01:04:48.400 --> 01:04:52.560
<v Speaker 3>evil because you know if you persist in that, it's going to</v>

01:04:52.560 --> 01:04:53.520
<v Speaker 3>kill you.</v>

01:04:53.520 --> 01:04:55.760
<v Speaker 3>Now again, that's that's a secular example.</v>

01:04:55.760 --> 01:04:59.680
<v Speaker 3>Obviously that sort of addiction is it's sinful because it's harmful.</v>

01:04:59.680 --> 01:05:02.800
<v Speaker 3>It's not what God it's what God says not to do with</v>

01:05:02.800 --> 01:05:04.080
<v Speaker 3>that gift.</v>

01:05:04.080 --> 01:05:08.000
<v Speaker 3>But on the other hand, the the fact that that repentance works,</v>

01:05:08.000 --> 01:05:09.120
<v Speaker 3>it plays out.</v>

01:05:09.120 --> 01:05:12.640
<v Speaker 3>There are people who have suffered with that addiction and they are</v>

01:05:12.640 --> 01:05:15.840
<v Speaker 3>repentants and they never they never get drunk again the rest of</v>

01:05:15.840 --> 01:05:16.560
<v Speaker 3>their life.</v>

01:05:16.560 --> 01:05:20.160
<v Speaker 3>And some of them are so successful that they're able to occasionally</v>

01:05:20.160 --> 01:05:22.400
<v Speaker 3>have a glass socially with a friend.</v>

01:05:22.400 --> 01:05:26.400
<v Speaker 3>You know, the one drop rule is not strictly a part of</v>

01:05:26.400 --> 01:05:28.080
<v Speaker 3>the process.</v>

01:05:28.560 --> 01:05:33.680
<v Speaker 3>the point is that you set aside finding the bottle bottom of</v>

01:05:33.680 --> 01:05:38.000
<v Speaker 3>the bottle and if you if you're able to enjoy something just</v>

01:05:38.000 --> 01:05:42.480
<v Speaker 3>as a small drink, then it's okay because it's not sin anymore,</v>

01:05:42.480 --> 01:05:45.120
<v Speaker 3>because it's not destructive.</v>

01:05:45.120 --> 01:05:47.920
<v Speaker 3>The destruction is where the sin comes from in the repentance is</v>

01:05:47.920 --> 01:05:50.240
<v Speaker 3>understanding I can leave it all behind.</v>

01:05:50.240 --> 01:05:52.240
<v Speaker 3>I can either never have a drink again or I can actually</v>

01:05:52.240 --> 01:05:56.800
<v Speaker 3>have a drink, you know, after decades of sobriety, because I know</v>

01:05:56.800 --> 01:05:58.560
<v Speaker 3>that I can stop at one drink.</v>

01:05:58.560 --> 01:06:02.320
<v Speaker 3>And that's really the ultimate success for a recovering alcoholic is to</v>

01:06:02.320 --> 01:06:04.960
<v Speaker 3>actually be able to have one drink again.</v>

01:06:04.960 --> 01:06:06.960
<v Speaker 3>Not everyone gets there, not everyone wants to try.</v>

01:06:06.960 --> 01:06:08.960
<v Speaker 3>Maybe they know that their willpower is not there.</v>

01:06:08.960 --> 01:06:10.320
<v Speaker 3>I'm not trying to tempt anyone.</v>

01:06:10.320 --> 01:06:13.680
<v Speaker 3>I'm just saying that when you look at the question of changing</v>

01:06:13.680 --> 01:06:17.920
<v Speaker 3>the before and after, it's it's gonna be the rest of your</v>

01:06:17.920 --> 01:06:22.640
<v Speaker 3>life, whether it's some sort of addiction problem where you have to</v>

01:06:22.640 --> 01:06:26.080
<v Speaker 3>hit rock bottom before you can have an after, or if you</v>

01:06:26.080 --> 01:06:28.800
<v Speaker 3>simply read the Bible or you hear a sermon or maybe you</v>

01:06:28.800 --> 01:06:32.160
<v Speaker 3>hear a podcast or you have a conversation and you realize the</v>

01:06:32.160 --> 01:06:35.760
<v Speaker 3>thing that you were doing that you thought was okay is actually</v>

01:06:35.760 --> 01:06:37.040
<v Speaker 3>not what God says.</v>

01:06:37.040 --> 01:06:40.720
<v Speaker 3>And when you repent, the rest of your life is redefined in</v>

01:06:40.720 --> 01:06:44.160
<v Speaker 3>terms of fleeing from that and saying, That's not me anymore.</v>

01:06:44.320 --> 01:06:44.560
To

01:06:44.560 --> 01:06:48.560
<v Speaker 2>give another example, not necessarily a personal example like Wo was giving</v>

01:06:48.560 --> 01:06:52.800
<v Speaker 2>earlier, but one that will resonate with much of our audience we</v>

01:06:52.800 --> 01:06:58.560
<v Speaker 2>know most of our audience is male, relatively young men.</v>

01:07:00.080 --> 01:07:03.360
<v Speaker 2>Before I get into that example though, I want to point out</v>

01:07:03.840 --> 01:07:09.200
<v Speaker 2>those who are listening attentively will undoubtedly have noticed that we are</v>

01:07:09.200 --> 01:07:12.880
<v Speaker 2>speaking of two different but related things.</v>

01:07:13.680 --> 01:07:18.640
<v Speaker 2>Because we have been speaking of both feeling, so for instance contrition,</v>

01:07:18.640 --> 01:07:24.640
<v Speaker 2>and thinking, metanoia to think differently, to change one's mind.</v>

01:07:24.640 --> 01:07:28.640
<v Speaker 2>These are both in view, but they are in view in slightly</v>

01:07:28.640 --> 01:07:30.240
<v Speaker 2>different ways.</v>

01:07:30.240 --> 01:07:35.600
<v Speaker 2>And with regard to different sins, in slightly different ways.</v>

01:07:36.000 --> 01:07:40.400
<v Speaker 2>Certain sins, it is going to be easier to feel disgusted about</v>

01:07:40.400 --> 01:07:43.680
<v Speaker 2>those once you have that change of mind.</v>

01:07:43.680 --> 01:07:44.000
<v Speaker 2>And</v>

01:07:45.520 --> 01:07:50.960
<v Speaker 2>I've spoken previously about sins that are contra naturum or impactum cum</v>

01:07:51.120 --> 01:07:56.880
<v Speaker 2>natura, which is just Latin for against nature or in agreement with</v>

01:07:56.880 --> 01:08:02.080
<v Speaker 2>nature. And so a sin that is in the latter category, that</v>

01:08:02.080 --> 01:08:06.400
<v Speaker 2>is in agreement with nature, is going to be more difficult for</v>

01:08:06.400 --> 01:08:10.000
<v Speaker 2>you to have a feeling of disgust about it than a sin</v>

01:08:10.000 --> 01:08:13.120
<v Speaker 2>that is contrary to nature.</v>

01:08:13.120 --> 01:08:16.160
<v Speaker 2>And so, for instance, if you have been in the depths of</v>

01:08:16.160 --> 01:08:21.840
<v Speaker 2>drug use, destructive drug use, you may very well find it easier</v>

01:08:21.840 --> 01:08:25.520
<v Speaker 2>to feel disgust about that, although there's obviously going to be that</v>

01:08:25.520 --> 01:08:30.400
<v Speaker 2>biological and psychological pull still for some years afterward.</v>

01:08:30.400 --> 01:08:34.560
<v Speaker 2>But it may be easier to feel that visceral disgust because that</v>

01:08:34.560 --> 01:08:37.120
<v Speaker 2>really is a sin against nature.</v>

01:08:37.120 --> 01:08:41.040
<v Speaker 2>It is at the very least an abuse to such an extreme</v>

01:08:41.040 --> 01:08:45.200
<v Speaker 2>that it becomes a sin against nature.</v>

01:08:45.200 --> 01:08:49.120
<v Speaker 2>However, in the case of fornication, which is the example I want</v>

01:08:49.120 --> 01:08:54.320
<v Speaker 2>to give, that is a sin that is in agreement with nature.</v>

01:08:54.320 --> 01:08:58.880
<v Speaker 2>Because biologically you are designed to like having sex.</v>

01:08:58.880 --> 01:09:02.960
<v Speaker 2>Unless, of course, you are one of the rare individuals who is</v>

01:09:02.960 --> 01:09:04.320
<v Speaker 2>actually celibate.</v>

01:09:04.320 --> 01:09:08.560
<v Speaker 2>But if you are, you know, and this will have no relevance</v>

01:09:08.560 --> 01:09:09.920
<v Speaker 2>to you whatsoever.</v>

01:09:09.920 --> 01:09:14.160
<v Speaker 2>Chances are no one listening is in that particular boat.</v>

01:09:14.160 --> 01:09:18.080
<v Speaker 2>And so if in your past, in your youth, as it were,</v>

01:09:18.080 --> 01:09:20.800
<v Speaker 2>you engaged in fornication.</v>

01:09:20.800 --> 01:09:24.000
<v Speaker 2>You are going to have a difficult time, a much more difficult</v>

01:09:24.000 --> 01:09:29.520
<v Speaker 2>time, looking at that past with the sort of disgust that you</v>

01:09:29.520 --> 01:09:33.120
<v Speaker 2>would have for a sin that is against nature.</v>

01:09:33.120 --> 01:09:36.560
<v Speaker 2>Now if you were engaging in unnatural acts perhaps it will be</v>

01:09:36.560 --> 01:09:43.040
<v Speaker 2>easier. But that is not necessarily what is exactly in view here.</v>

01:09:43.040 --> 01:09:45.840
<v Speaker 2>It is important to distinguish two different things.</v>

01:09:47.120 --> 01:09:54.320
<v Speaker 2>You can feel disgust for the sin and not necessarily viscerally feel</v>

01:09:54.320 --> 01:09:58.400
<v Speaker 2>that disgust for the act that constituted the sin.</v>

01:09:58.400 --> 01:10:01.520
<v Speaker 2>And that's what it is important to keep in mind, in particular</v>

01:10:01.600 --> 01:10:04.640
<v Speaker 2>with the sin of fornication, because there may be some who are</v>

01:10:04.640 --> 01:10:08.240
<v Speaker 2>listening and going, I can't feel disgusted about what I did with</v>

01:10:08.240 --> 01:10:12.400
<v Speaker 2>my high school girlfriend, that feels entirely like it was correct, except</v>

01:10:12.400 --> 01:10:14.720
<v Speaker 2>for the fact that it was sin.</v>

01:10:14.720 --> 01:10:18.480
<v Speaker 2>To have the repentance, to have the metanoia, to have the change</v>

01:10:18.480 --> 01:10:21.440
<v Speaker 2>of mind, is to think about it differently.</v>

01:10:21.440 --> 01:10:24.560
<v Speaker 2>That is to look back at that and recognize that it was</v>

01:10:24.560 --> 01:10:28.240
<v Speaker 2>sin and that you should not have done that.</v>

01:10:28.240 --> 01:10:34.480
<v Speaker 2>Now over time, via sanctification, you will begin to feel that disgust</v>

01:10:34.480 --> 01:10:36.000
<v Speaker 2>toward the sin.</v>

01:10:36.240 --> 01:10:40.000
<v Speaker 2>That is something that you will grow into in your Christian life</v>

01:10:40.000 --> 01:10:43.760
<v Speaker 2>as you grow into your Christian life, as you are sanctified by</v>

01:10:43.760 --> 01:10:45.600
<v Speaker 2>the Spirit.</v>

01:10:45.600 --> 01:10:48.880
<v Speaker 2>I bring up this example because I do not want anyone listening</v>

01:10:48.880 --> 01:10:52.800
<v Speaker 2>to think I don't feel disgusted by this particular sin and so</v>

01:10:52.800 --> 01:10:54.480
<v Speaker 2>I can't possibly repent of it.</v>

01:10:54.480 --> 01:10:56.800
<v Speaker 2>No, you can still repent.</v>

01:10:56.800 --> 01:11:00.720
<v Speaker 2>Because you can feel contrite with regard to the fact that it</v>

01:11:00.720 --> 01:11:03.600
<v Speaker 2>was a sin, with regard to the fact that it is one</v>

01:11:03.600 --> 01:11:06.960
<v Speaker 2>of the sins that nailed Christ to the cross, and you can</v>

01:11:06.960 --> 01:11:08.320
<v Speaker 2>think differently about it.</v>

01:11:08.320 --> 01:11:10.320
<v Speaker 2>You can recognize that it's sin.</v>

01:11:10.320 --> 01:11:12.400
<v Speaker 2>That's thinking differently.</v>

01:11:12.400 --> 01:11:15.600
<v Speaker 2>Because at the time you probably weren't thinking it was sin, you</v>

01:11:15.600 --> 01:11:18.640
<v Speaker 2>were just thinking it was fun, it was enjoyable, it was something</v>

01:11:18.640 --> 01:11:20.160
<v Speaker 2>you wanted to do.</v>

01:11:20.160 --> 01:11:25.920
<v Speaker 2>And so you can still repent by thinking differently about that sin,</v>

01:11:25.920 --> 01:11:30.400
<v Speaker 2>even if you don't yet feel that disgust with regard to the</v>

01:11:30.400 --> 01:11:33.440
<v Speaker 2>contrition aspect of repentance.</v>

01:11:33.440 --> 01:11:37.760
<v Speaker 2>So, don't despair just because you can't feel disgust for some of</v>

01:11:37.760 --> 01:11:39.040
<v Speaker 2>your past sins.</v>

01:11:39.040 --> 01:11:43.280
<v Speaker 2>That's not necessarily part of this initially.</v>

01:11:43.280 --> 01:11:46.400
<v Speaker 2>But again, you will grow into that as you grow in your</v>

01:11:46.400 --> 01:11:47.040
<v Speaker 2>Christian life.</v>

01:11:47.040 --> 01:11:50.640
<v Speaker 2>It's just like some of the you can call them smaller sins</v>

01:11:50.640 --> 01:11:53.440
<v Speaker 2>in your life that you may not recognize when you first become</v>

01:11:53.680 --> 01:11:55.280
<v Speaker 2>a Christian.</v>

01:11:55.280 --> 01:11:58.640
<v Speaker 2>But as you grow in your Christian life, as you grow in</v>

01:11:58.640 --> 01:12:03.920
<v Speaker 2>your understanding of Scripture, as sanctification progresses, you'll start to recognize these</v>

01:12:03.920 --> 01:12:07.200
<v Speaker 2>things in your life that oh well that was actually a sin.</v>

01:12:07.200 --> 01:12:10.640
<v Speaker 2>This This is a sin, I need to stop doing this, and</v>

01:12:10.640 --> 01:12:12.800
<v Speaker 2>so you think differently about it.</v>

01:12:12.800 --> 01:12:14.400
<v Speaker 2>You turn from it.</v>

01:12:14.400 --> 01:12:16.880
<v Speaker 2>That is part of this ongoing process.</v>

01:12:16.880 --> 01:12:20.080
<v Speaker 2>It's not a one and done sort of thing.</v>

01:12:20.080 --> 01:12:22.240
<v Speaker 2>This is distinct from justification.</v>

01:12:22.880 --> 01:12:26.240
<v Speaker 2>Justification is one and done.</v>

01:12:26.240 --> 01:12:28.800
<v Speaker 2>When you are justified, you're justified.</v>

01:12:28.800 --> 01:12:30.880
<v Speaker 2>Period. That's done.</v>

01:12:30.880 --> 01:12:33.920
<v Speaker 2>And the work of that was done on the cross.</v>

01:12:33.920 --> 01:12:36.240
<v Speaker 2>That is a one time thing.</v>

01:12:36.240 --> 01:12:41.440
<v Speaker 2>Sanctification is the ongoing process in the Christian life, and from our</v>

01:12:41.440 --> 01:12:46.080
<v Speaker 2>perspective that is repentance, that is this change of mind that is</v>

01:12:46.080 --> 01:12:51.200
<v Speaker 2>then accompanied by a change in behavior.</v>

01:12:51.200 --> 01:12:56.000
<v Speaker 2>And so you will find, like I said, small things once you've</v>

01:12:56.000 --> 01:12:58.320
<v Speaker 2>dealt with the big things anyway, you will find small things in</v>

01:12:58.880 --> 01:13:01.840
<v Speaker 2>your life that I need to change that.</v>

01:13:01.840 --> 01:13:06.720
<v Speaker 2>You'll think about it and realize that no, that actually is sin.</v>

01:13:06.720 --> 01:13:09.840
<v Speaker 2>I should not be engaged in this.</v>

01:13:09.840 --> 01:13:13.920
<v Speaker 2>And so for instance, we go over a a number of those</v>

01:13:13.920 --> 01:13:17.840
<v Speaker 2>issues in some of these podcast episodes.</v>

01:13:17.840 --> 01:13:20.880
<v Speaker 2>We had an episode where we went over things that were neglected</v>

01:13:20.880 --> 01:13:22.720
<v Speaker 2>matters in the Christian life.</v>

01:13:22.720 --> 01:13:26.000
<v Speaker 2>And so most Christians don't think about usury, don't think about the</v>

01:13:26.000 --> 01:13:29.760
<v Speaker 2>charging of interest as a sin, because they haven't been taught that</v>

01:13:29.760 --> 01:13:33.600
<v Speaker 2>it's a sin, and they weren't paying close enough attention reading scripture,</v>

01:13:33.600 --> 01:13:35.680
<v Speaker 2>assuming they were doing so.</v>

01:13:36.240 --> 01:13:40.880
<v Speaker 2>And so you may realize Realize I have been engaged in this</v>

01:13:40.880 --> 01:13:46.400
<v Speaker 2>particular sin for years and I didn't recognize it was sin.</v>

01:13:46.400 --> 01:13:50.800
<v Speaker 2>That recognizing that it is sin is basically the first step, because</v>

01:13:50.800 --> 01:13:54.160
<v Speaker 2>you have to recognize the thing is sin to have a change</v>

01:13:54.160 --> 01:13:56.720
<v Speaker 2>with regard to how you think about the thing.</v>

01:13:56.720 --> 01:14:00.240
<v Speaker 2>If you never recognize it's sin, you're never going to change your</v>

01:14:00.240 --> 01:14:03.360
<v Speaker 2>mind. This is one of the reasons that we need to be</v>

01:14:03.360 --> 01:14:06.400
<v Speaker 2>reading scripture every single day.</v>

01:14:06.400 --> 01:14:09.120
<v Speaker 2>We need to be in the Word of God.</v>

01:14:09.120 --> 01:14:11.120
<v Speaker 2>We need to be discussing it.</v>

01:14:11.120 --> 01:14:13.440
<v Speaker 2>Just read what Scripture says about Scripture.</v>

01:14:13.440 --> 01:14:16.080
<v Speaker 2>Discuss it when you pass by the way, write it on the</v>

01:14:16.080 --> 01:14:21.200
<v Speaker 2>doorposts of your house and on the gates of your towns, etcetera.</v>

01:14:21.200 --> 01:14:24.640
<v Speaker 2>We need to be deeply involved in the Word of God, because</v>

01:14:24.640 --> 01:14:27.680
<v Speaker 2>that is how God speaks to us, and that is how we</v>

01:14:27.680 --> 01:14:31.200
<v Speaker 2>start to recognize these things that are sin.</v>

01:14:31.200 --> 01:14:34.640
<v Speaker 2>It's one of the reasons that we do this podcast because we</v>

01:14:34.640 --> 01:14:39.120
<v Speaker 2>read scripture and we recognize things that are sin and then we</v>

01:14:39.120 --> 01:14:41.760
<v Speaker 2>look at what is going on in our society and what Christians</v>

01:14:41.760 --> 01:14:42.960
<v Speaker 2>are actually doing.</v>

01:14:42.960 --> 01:14:49.280
<v Speaker 2>And Christians are engaged in these behaviors that are sin, clearer sin,</v>

01:14:49.280 --> 01:14:52.320
<v Speaker 2>if you read the Word of God, but if you don't read</v>

01:14:52.320 --> 01:14:56.320
<v Speaker 2>the Word of God, you may never recognize their sin, and so</v>

01:14:56.320 --> 01:14:59.600
<v Speaker 2>you won't repent, because you cannot repent of that which you do</v>

01:14:59.600 --> 01:15:02.560
<v Speaker 2>not recognize as being sin.</v>

01:15:02.560 --> 01:15:05.840
<v Speaker 2>And so that is the vitally important foundation that you have to</v>

01:15:05.840 --> 01:15:08.720
<v Speaker 2>build in order to have this repentance.</v>

01:15:08.720 --> 01:15:12.080
<v Speaker 2>You use the Word of God, and you use discussing the Word</v>

01:15:12.080 --> 01:15:15.040
<v Speaker 2>of God, hearing the Word of God, in church and when you</v>

01:15:15.040 --> 01:15:18.640
<v Speaker 2>have your Bible study, all these other places where you engage with</v>

01:15:18.640 --> 01:15:21.520
<v Speaker 2>the Word of God by yourself or with other men Then</v>

01:15:22.560 --> 01:15:26.400
<v Speaker 2>that is how you build the foundation upon which you can build</v>

01:15:26.400 --> 01:15:29.040
<v Speaker 2>this repentance, this Christian life.</v>

01:15:29.040 --> 01:15:33.600
<v Speaker 2>Because when you recognize the sin that the Spirit will highlight for</v>

01:15:33.600 --> 01:15:37.120
<v Speaker 2>you in the Word, and do bear that in mind.</v>

01:15:37.120 --> 01:15:42.240
<v Speaker 2>This is not simply reliant on your ability to read well and</v>

01:15:42.240 --> 01:15:46.160
<v Speaker 2>understand. Because when you read the Word of God you are interacting</v>

01:15:46.160 --> 01:15:46.560
<v Speaker 2>with God.</v>

01:15:46.880 --> 01:15:50.240
<v Speaker 2>It is not a passive process, it's an active process.</v>

01:15:50.240 --> 01:15:53.280
<v Speaker 2>The Spirit will help guide you into truth.</v>

01:15:53.280 --> 01:15:56.720
<v Speaker 2>That is what He does, that is what God promises will happen</v>

01:15:56.720 --> 01:15:58.720
<v Speaker 2>when we read His Word.</v>

01:15:58.720 --> 01:16:02.080
<v Speaker 2>And so you will begin to recognize these things in scripture and</v>

01:16:02.080 --> 01:16:04.080
<v Speaker 2>go, well, that's a sin.</v>

01:16:04.080 --> 01:16:06.240
<v Speaker 2>And I've been doing that.</v>

01:16:06.240 --> 01:16:09.760
<v Speaker 2>And our church is engaged in that, and this group's engaged in</v>

01:16:09.760 --> 01:16:13.920
<v Speaker 2>that. And then you can repent because you can think differently about</v>

01:16:13.920 --> 01:16:16.640
<v Speaker 2>it, because now you know it's a sin.</v>

01:16:16.640 --> 01:16:19.760
<v Speaker 2>And then of course you feel sorrow for it.</v>

01:16:19.760 --> 01:16:22.320
<v Speaker 2>If you are able to feel sorrow for it again, that may</v>

01:16:22.320 --> 01:16:25.840
<v Speaker 2>come later, but you think differently and you turn away from it.</v>

01:16:25.840 --> 01:16:27.600
<v Speaker 2>That is repentance.</v>

01:16:27.840 --> 01:16:32.640
<v Speaker 2>But you cannot have that repentance if you don't recognize its sin.</v>

01:16:32.640 --> 01:16:37.360
<v Speaker 2>And so that is why we constantly recommend that you read this,</v>

01:16:37.360 --> 01:16:39.760
<v Speaker 2>that, or the other part of scripture.</v>

01:16:39.760 --> 01:16:45.680
<v Speaker 2>It doesn't matter so much which reading schedule you're following.</v>

01:16:45.680 --> 01:16:48.320
<v Speaker 2>Just be involved in the Word of God.</v>

01:16:48.320 --> 01:16:51.920
<v Speaker 2>Read the Word of God.</v>

01:16:51.920 --> 01:16:53.840
<v Speaker 2>That is part of the Christian life.</v>

01:16:54.080 --> 01:16:57.840
<v Speaker 2>And that is how you actually build the foundation for the rest</v>

01:16:57.840 --> 01:16:59.680
<v Speaker 2>of the Christian life.</v>

01:16:59.680 --> 01:17:03.600
<v Speaker 2>You can't just say I'm a Christian and then expect everything to</v>

01:17:03.600 --> 01:17:04.400
<v Speaker 2>come to you.</v>

01:17:04.400 --> 01:17:07.920
<v Speaker 2>That is what historically we have called enthusiasm.</v>

01:17:07.920 --> 01:17:08.880
<v Speaker 2>Those are the individuals</v>

01:17:09.760 --> 01:17:12.400
<v Speaker 2>who think that God is just going to strike them out of</v>

01:17:12.400 --> 01:17:15.440
<v Speaker 2>the blue with a lightning bolt of inspiration.</v>

01:17:15.440 --> 01:17:17.680
<v Speaker 2>That is not how God works.</v>

01:17:17.680 --> 01:17:21.360
<v Speaker 2>God has given us His Word because that is how He speaks</v>

01:17:21.360 --> 01:17:22.000
<v Speaker 2>to us.</v>

01:17:22.000 --> 01:17:25.760
<v Speaker 2>And so when we read his word, when we hear his word,</v>

01:17:25.760 --> 01:17:28.640
<v Speaker 2>we are hearing the voice of God.</v>

01:17:28.640 --> 01:17:31.520
<v Speaker 2>And that is how we recognize our sin, and that is how</v>

01:17:31.520 --> 01:17:32.800
<v Speaker 2>we amend our lives.</v>

01:17:32.800 --> 01:17:35.520
<v Speaker 2>That is how we have actual repentance.</v>

01:17:35.520 --> 01:17:39.840
<v Speaker 2>We have this metanoia, we have this change of mind with regard</v>

01:17:39.840 --> 01:17:43.680
<v Speaker 2>to things that we once did not think were sinful, but now</v>

01:17:43.680 --> 01:17:45.040
<v Speaker 2>we recognize they</v>

01:17:45.040 --> 01:17:45.680
are.

01:17:46.320 --> 01:17:50.720
<v Speaker 3>And you highlight an excellent point there that when someone is raised</v>

01:17:50.720 --> 01:17:55.920
<v Speaker 3>in a Christian household and properly instructed and simply rejects these things</v>

01:17:55.920 --> 01:17:59.440
<v Speaker 3>out of hand, there's no need for repentance because the thing that</v>

01:17:59.440 --> 01:18:02.960
<v Speaker 3>you believed the third the first time was correct Correct.</v>

01:18:02.960 --> 01:18:06.640
<v Speaker 3>It's only those who go down the path of of committing sins</v>

01:18:06.640 --> 01:18:11.360
<v Speaker 3>and falling into error and misbelieving, not believing what God says, they</v>

01:18:11.440 --> 01:18:12.000
<v Speaker 3>have these problems.</v>

01:18:13.120 --> 01:18:17.280
<v Speaker 3>If we're obedient from the beginning, which of course is impossible, it's</v>

01:18:17.200 --> 01:18:19.920
<v Speaker 3>not like no one, no one can possibly be perfect.</v>

01:18:19.920 --> 01:18:23.360
<v Speaker 3>Nevertheless, we all know that there are some families that are That</v>

01:18:23.360 --> 01:18:25.040
<v Speaker 3>are more Christian than others.</v>

01:18:25.040 --> 01:18:28.480
<v Speaker 3>There's some kids who are simply more Christian that would never do</v>

01:18:28.480 --> 01:18:31.840
<v Speaker 3>the things that we grew up thinking we're fine.</v>

01:18:31.840 --> 01:18:35.600
<v Speaker 3>And honestly, I think one of the problems that we have, even</v>

01:18:35.600 --> 01:18:39.120
<v Speaker 3>as Christians, is that when we see that it's often off putting</v>

01:18:39.600 --> 01:18:43.920
<v Speaker 3>when someone is actually holier than us, when they are less with</v>

01:18:43.920 --> 01:18:49.440
<v Speaker 3>sin, when they're better behaved, we we get offended, naturally very offended.</v>

01:18:49.760 --> 01:18:54.240
<v Speaker 3>It's viscerally offensive when you see somebody who just didn't make these</v>

01:18:54.240 --> 01:18:55.440
<v Speaker 3>mistakes in the first place.</v>

01:18:55.440 --> 01:18:56.400
<v Speaker 3>They didn't sin.</v>

01:18:56.400 --> 01:18:58.160
<v Speaker 3>They didn't disbelieve God.</v>

01:18:58.160 --> 01:18:59.680
<v Speaker 3>They did what he said from the beginning.</v>

01:18:59.680 --> 01:19:01.040
<v Speaker 3>They took it seriously.</v>

01:19:01.040 --> 01:19:05.680
<v Speaker 3>And when in whatever their doctrinal precepts were that shaped the view</v>

01:19:05.680 --> 01:19:09.680
<v Speaker 3>of them raising their family that way, you can't argue with the</v>

01:19:09.680 --> 01:19:15.600
<v Speaker 3>fruit. And I think that we it's it's important to emphasize</v>

01:19:17.040 --> 01:19:19.760
<v Speaker 3>that repentance is part of sanctification.</v>

01:19:19.760 --> 01:19:23.360
<v Speaker 3>I think in part to illustrate that when you don't get these</v>

01:19:23.360 --> 01:19:28.000
<v Speaker 3>things wrong, you will have a more Christian life basically for free.</v>

01:19:28.400 --> 01:19:32.080
<v Speaker 3>Not because you're not doing anything, because you're simply obeying God.</v>

01:19:32.080 --> 01:19:34.320
<v Speaker 3>And again, as we said from the beginning, and we say in</v>

01:19:34.320 --> 01:19:38.960
<v Speaker 3>many episodes, justification before God is not in view here.</v>

01:19:38.960 --> 01:19:40.800
<v Speaker 3>We are not saying, oh, look, here's all the things you do</v>

01:19:40.800 --> 01:19:41.280
<v Speaker 3>to be saved.</v>

01:19:42.000 --> 01:19:46.400
<v Speaker 3>No. Because you're saved, look at all the benefits that God will</v>

01:19:46.400 --> 01:19:50.400
<v Speaker 3>bless you with simply by doing what He's already told you.</v>

01:19:50.400 --> 01:19:52.560
<v Speaker 3>When you already know what to do and you do it, your</v>

01:19:52.560 --> 01:19:53.440
<v Speaker 3>life is better.</v>

01:19:53.440 --> 01:19:55.440
<v Speaker 3>That's a pretty good deal.</v>

01:19:55.440 --> 01:19:58.960
<v Speaker 3>And it's only in the cases where we disbelieve and we sin</v>

01:19:58.960 --> 01:20:02.480
<v Speaker 3>and we doubt and then we have to be restored, like the</v>

01:20:02.480 --> 01:20:05.760
<v Speaker 3>prodigal son, that God has to fix these things for us.</v>

01:20:05.760 --> 01:20:06.720
<v Speaker 3>And it's harder.</v>

01:20:06.720 --> 01:20:09.840
<v Speaker 3>You know, as Corey was saying, the example of someone who's fallen</v>

01:20:09.840 --> 01:20:16.080
<v Speaker 3>into those particular types of sins, it's harder to patch things up</v>

01:20:16.080 --> 01:20:19.280
<v Speaker 3>internally because you've gone down a path where something that should have</v>

01:20:19.280 --> 01:20:22.080
<v Speaker 3>been good part of it was bad in one way, and it</v>

01:20:22.080 --> 01:20:28.160
<v Speaker 3>was evil, it was something that God condemns, but it wasn't unnatural,</v>

01:20:28.160 --> 01:20:33.760
<v Speaker 3>it was just disordered, and it causes confusion and doubt and it</v>

01:20:33.760 --> 01:20:37.680
<v Speaker 3>burdens people who wouldn't be burdened if they've simply followed the rules,</v>

01:20:37.680 --> 01:20:41.600
<v Speaker 3>God's rules, God's law, from the beginning.</v>

01:20:41.600 --> 01:20:46.400
<v Speaker 3>And so ultimately, you know, these when we're talking about the Christian</v>

01:20:46.400 --> 01:20:50.560
<v Speaker 3>life and setting a Christian example and teaching Christian doctrine.</v>

01:20:50.560 --> 01:20:52.320
<v Speaker 3>It's not about getting a good score.</v>

01:20:52.320 --> 01:20:53.840
<v Speaker 3>It's about trying to</v>

01:20:55.120 --> 01:20:59.200
<v Speaker 3>make heaven more like earth the way God wants it to be.</v>

01:20:59.200 --> 01:21:03.760
<v Speaker 3>When you look at Christ's exhortations in the New Testament, he's always</v>

01:21:03.760 --> 01:21:06.720
<v Speaker 3>saying things like go and sin no more.</v>

01:21:06.720 --> 01:21:09.440
<v Speaker 3>He's always telling people to behave.</v>

01:21:09.440 --> 01:21:11.840
<v Speaker 3>That's what God says to do.</v>

01:21:11.840 --> 01:21:14.720
<v Speaker 3>You know, a lot of times when these discussions come up in</v>

01:21:14.720 --> 01:21:19.680
<v Speaker 3>the church, especially among Protestants, who again were so allergic to works</v>

01:21:19.920 --> 01:21:23.840
<v Speaker 3>righteousness that we get angry when someone says to obey God.</v>

01:21:23.840 --> 01:21:25.040
<v Speaker 3>Are you kidding me?</v>

01:21:25.040 --> 01:21:28.320
<v Speaker 3>That's how can you actually read the Bible and bl and have</v>

01:21:28.320 --> 01:21:29.680
<v Speaker 3>that response?</v>

01:21:29.680 --> 01:21:34.320
<v Speaker 3>You can't read a single book without having an exhortation to obey</v>

01:21:34.320 --> 01:21:36.480
<v Speaker 3>God because it's what God tells us.</v>

01:21:36.480 --> 01:21:38.320
<v Speaker 3>Otherwise, what's the point of the book?</v>

01:21:38.320 --> 01:21:41.200
<v Speaker 3>If everything's hunky dory, he doesn't need to tell you to do</v>

01:21:41.200 --> 01:21:44.640
<v Speaker 3>anything. It's the stuff that we're getting wrong because of our sinful</v>

01:21:44.640 --> 01:21:49.040
<v Speaker 3>nature that required God to tell us here's what godly living looks</v>

01:21:49.040 --> 01:21:52.880
<v Speaker 3>like. And even when Paul was personally ministering to people, you know,</v>

01:21:52.880 --> 01:21:57.040
<v Speaker 3>Paul's one of those people who his very shadow healed people of</v>

01:21:57.040 --> 01:21:58.400
<v Speaker 3>their illnesses.</v>

01:21:58.400 --> 01:22:00.640
<v Speaker 3>He had the power of God in a way that no one</v>

01:22:00.640 --> 01:22:02.720
<v Speaker 3>who preaches today does.</v>

01:22:02.720 --> 01:22:07.840
<v Speaker 3>He was a direct and immediate vessel for the Holy Spirit in</v>

01:22:07.840 --> 01:22:10.800
<v Speaker 3>a particular way that we haven't seen since then.</v>

01:22:10.800 --> 01:22:11.680
<v Speaker 3>And that's okay.</v>

01:22:11.680 --> 01:22:12.960
<v Speaker 3>God did it for them.</v>

01:22:12.960 --> 01:22:14.160
<v Speaker 3>He doesn't need to do it for us.</v>

01:22:14.160 --> 01:22:15.600
<v Speaker 3>He's given us the example.</v>

01:22:15.600 --> 01:22:19.280
<v Speaker 3>And yet, even in the churches that he planted, the people had</v>

01:22:19.280 --> 01:22:21.120
<v Speaker 3>the same problems that we have today.</v>

01:22:21.120 --> 01:22:25.120
<v Speaker 3>They had the same unbelief, the same doubt, the same falling into</v>

01:22:25.440 --> 01:22:29.840
<v Speaker 3>other false teachers and not remembering what Paul just told them six</v>

01:22:29.840 --> 01:22:32.880
<v Speaker 3>months or a year ago and listening to these other guys who</v>

01:22:32.880 --> 01:22:37.440
<v Speaker 3>are making stuff up, if those churches planted by the apostles had</v>

01:22:37.440 --> 01:22:41.120
<v Speaker 3>those problems, we're smoking crack if we think ours are in better</v>

01:22:41.120 --> 01:22:43.120
<v Speaker 3>shape. They're simply not.</v>

01:22:43.200 --> 01:22:46.400
<v Speaker 3>I think it's one of the very most dangerous things that we</v>

01:22:46.400 --> 01:22:49.280
<v Speaker 3>face in all of our churches today is we think we have</v>

01:22:49.280 --> 01:22:50.560
<v Speaker 3>everything figured out.</v>

01:22:50.560 --> 01:22:54.000
<v Speaker 3>We think that we're so experienced with this Christianity stuff that we</v>

01:22:54.000 --> 01:22:58.560
<v Speaker 3>have all the doctrines and we have all the right ideas written</v>

01:22:58.560 --> 01:23:01.680
<v Speaker 3>down, and therefore we're not gonna fall into error.</v>

01:23:01.680 --> 01:23:03.440
<v Speaker 3>Complete BS.</v>

01:23:03.440 --> 01:23:06.960
<v Speaker 3>If Paul couldn't achieve those results with those to whom he preached</v>

01:23:06.960 --> 01:23:10.000
<v Speaker 3>directly, your pastor is not gonna do any better.</v>

01:23:10.480 --> 01:23:14.880
<v Speaker 3>In defying what God says by refusing to tell people to obey</v>

01:23:14.880 --> 01:23:18.400
<v Speaker 3>God and to stop sinning is going to have the opposite effect</v>

01:23:18.400 --> 01:23:22.960
<v Speaker 3>of producing better Christians.</v>

01:23:22.960 --> 01:23:26.320
<v Speaker 3>Another example of repentance that I want to give is from Matthew</v>

01:23:26.400 --> 01:23:31.440
<v Speaker 3>18, which echoes something that hopefully we're all saying certainly every week,</v>

01:23:31.440 --> 01:23:33.920
<v Speaker 3>if not every day, in the Lord's Prayer.</v>

01:23:34.080 --> 01:23:38.320
<v Speaker 3>Forgive us our debts as we forgive our debtors.</v>

01:23:38.320 --> 01:23:43.200
<v Speaker 3>In Matthew eighteen, Jesus teaches the parable of the wicked servant.</v>

01:23:43.200 --> 01:23:45.920
<v Speaker 3>Therefore the kingdom of heaven may be compared to a king who</v>

01:23:45.920 --> 01:23:48.160
<v Speaker 3>wished to settle accounts with his servants.</v>

01:23:48.160 --> 01:23:50.560
<v Speaker 3>When he began to settle, one was brought to him who owed</v>

01:23:50.560 --> 01:23:54.400
<v Speaker 3>him ten thousand talents, and since he could not pay, his master</v>

01:23:54.400 --> 01:23:56.960
<v Speaker 3>ordered him to be sold with his wife and children and all</v>

01:23:56.960 --> 01:23:59.120
<v Speaker 3>that he had, and payment to be made.</v>

01:23:59.120 --> 01:24:02.640
<v Speaker 3>So the servant fell to his knees, imploring him, have patience with</v>

01:24:02.640 --> 01:24:05.360
<v Speaker 3>me and I will pay you everything, and out of pity for</v>

01:24:05.360 --> 01:24:09.200
<v Speaker 3>him the master of the servant released him and forgave the debt.</v>

01:24:09.200 --> 01:24:12.000
<v Speaker 3>But when the same servant went out, he found one of his</v>

01:24:12.000 --> 01:24:16.000
<v Speaker 3>fellow servants who owed him a hundred denarii, and seizing him, he</v>

01:24:16.000 --> 01:24:18.720
<v Speaker 3>began to choke him, saying, Pay what you owe.</v>

01:24:18.720 --> 01:24:22.480
<v Speaker 3>So his fellow servant fell down and pleaded with him, have patience</v>

01:24:22.480 --> 01:24:24.080
<v Speaker 3>with me and I will pay you.</v>

01:24:24.080 --> 01:24:26.880
<v Speaker 3>He refused and went to put him in prison until he should</v>

01:24:26.880 --> 01:24:27.920
<v Speaker 3>pay the debt.</v>

01:24:27.920 --> 01:24:31.200
<v Speaker 3>When his fellow servants saw what had taken place they were greatly</v>

01:24:31.200 --> 01:24:34.400
<v Speaker 3>distressed, and they went to and reported to their master all that</v>

01:24:34.400 --> 01:24:35.520
<v Speaker 3>had taken place.</v>

01:24:35.520 --> 01:24:38.400
<v Speaker 3>Then his master summoned him and said to him, You wicked servant,</v>

01:24:38.400 --> 01:24:41.840
<v Speaker 3>I forgave you all that debt because you had pleaded with me.</v>

01:24:41.840 --> 01:24:45.040
<v Speaker 3>And should not you also have had mercy on your fellow servant</v>

01:24:45.040 --> 01:24:46.800
<v Speaker 3>as I had mercy on you?</v>

01:24:46.800 --> 01:24:49.840
<v Speaker 3>And in anger his master delivered him to the jailers until he</v>

01:24:49.840 --> 01:24:51.680
<v Speaker 3>should pay all of his debt.</v>

01:24:51.680 --> 01:24:55.760
<v Speaker 3>So also my heavenly Father will do to every one of you</v>

01:24:55.920 --> 01:24:59.600
<v Speaker 3>if you do not forgive your brother from your heart.</v>

01:25:00.880 --> 01:25:07.520
<v Speaker 3>Now this is about repentance because superficially the wicked servant was contrite.</v>

01:25:07.680 --> 01:25:10.400
<v Speaker 3>His master dragged him in and said, Pay what you owe, and</v>

01:25:10.400 --> 01:25:12.320
<v Speaker 3>he said, I can't, please have mercy on you all.</v>

01:25:12.320 --> 01:25:13.840
<v Speaker 3>I'll pay it all back.</v>

01:25:13.840 --> 01:25:16.480
<v Speaker 3>And his master didn't even take him up on the offer to</v>

01:25:16.480 --> 01:25:19.680
<v Speaker 3>pay it all back, which is Corey said in the previous uh</v>

01:25:19.840 --> 01:25:25.440
<v Speaker 3>episode, the amount of silver that this servant owed was almost incalculable</v>

01:25:25.440 --> 01:25:28.320
<v Speaker 3>in terms of wealth, is far more than any man could ever</v>

01:25:28.320 --> 01:25:30.240
<v Speaker 3>conceivably pay back.</v>

01:25:30.240 --> 01:25:34.480
<v Speaker 3>So when the the servant really falsely said, I'll pay you back.</v>

01:25:34.480 --> 01:25:36.320
<v Speaker 3>The master didn't take him up on it.</v>

01:25:36.320 --> 01:25:38.400
<v Speaker 3>He said, I forgive all your debt.</v>

01:25:38.400 --> 01:25:40.240
<v Speaker 3>It's gone.</v>

01:25:40.240 --> 01:25:44.400
<v Speaker 3>The reason that there was no repentance, even though there was contrition,</v>

01:25:44.400 --> 01:25:47.760
<v Speaker 3>even though he was very sorry for his debt, there was no</v>

01:25:47.760 --> 01:25:51.520
<v Speaker 3>repentance because he didn't have a new view of debt.</v>

01:25:51.520 --> 01:25:52.560
<v Speaker 3>What did he do?</v>

01:25:52.560 --> 01:25:54.960
<v Speaker 3>He turned around to a fellow servant and grabbed him by the</v>

01:25:54.960 --> 01:25:59.120
<v Speaker 3>throat. As soon as his master got him back to zero from</v>

01:25:59.120 --> 01:26:02.480
<v Speaker 3>being effectively infinitely in the hole, when he got back to zero</v>

01:26:02.560 --> 01:26:05.600
<v Speaker 3>he turned to his fellow servant, grabbed him by the throat and</v>

01:26:05.600 --> 01:26:08.320
<v Speaker 3>said, Pay what you owe, so that he could go up, so</v>

01:26:08.320 --> 01:26:11.760
<v Speaker 3>that he could have more at the expense of someone else.</v>

01:26:11.760 --> 01:26:15.840
<v Speaker 3>His lack of repentance surrounding debt, the fact that he did not</v>

01:26:15.840 --> 01:26:19.440
<v Speaker 3>view it differently than before, because there was no repentance.</v>

01:26:19.440 --> 01:26:24.160
<v Speaker 3>And therefore, God threw him to the jailers until he could pay</v>

01:26:24.160 --> 01:26:27.360
<v Speaker 3>it all back, which is hell, which is eternity, because there was</v>

01:26:27.360 --> 01:26:29.040
<v Speaker 3>never paying that back.</v>

01:26:29.040 --> 01:26:33.280
<v Speaker 3>And so Jesus says, So also my heavenly Father will do to</v>

01:26:33.280 --> 01:26:34.640
<v Speaker 3>every one of you.</v>

01:26:34.640 --> 01:26:38.240
<v Speaker 3>And then he says, if you do not forgive your brother from</v>

01:26:38.240 --> 01:26:45.280
<v Speaker 3>your heart, which is another part of repentance, versus contrition, when it's</v>

01:26:45.200 --> 01:26:49.360
<v Speaker 3>possible to separate those, because saying forgive your brother</v>

01:26:50.960 --> 01:26:53.840
<v Speaker 3>on one hand, that could simply be contrition.</v>

01:26:53.840 --> 01:26:56.880
<v Speaker 3>It could be, okay, well, you know, you owed me a bunch</v>

01:26:56.880 --> 01:26:59.280
<v Speaker 3>of money and you didn't pay back, so I forgive it.</v>

01:26:59.280 --> 01:27:00.240
<v Speaker 3>It it's forgiven.</v>

01:27:00.320 --> 01:27:01.760
<v Speaker 3>I don't worry about it.</v>

01:27:02.080 --> 01:27:06.080
<v Speaker 3>But in your heart, you still are bitter that the guy never</v>

01:27:06.080 --> 01:27:07.200
<v Speaker 3>paid you back.</v>

01:27:07.200 --> 01:27:09.920
<v Speaker 3>That's not actually forgiving in your heart.</v>

01:27:09.920 --> 01:27:14.640
<v Speaker 3>It is not enough to wipe the slate clean physically and mechanically.</v>

01:27:14.640 --> 01:27:17.520
<v Speaker 3>You have to wipe it clean in your heart to say the</v>

01:27:17.680 --> 01:27:22.480
<v Speaker 3>man, there is no debt, whether it's sin or it's actual monetary</v>

01:27:22.480 --> 01:27:24.240
<v Speaker 3>debt, whatever it is.</v>

01:27:24.240 --> 01:27:29.280
<v Speaker 3>If the beginning of your contrition is not in your heart, then</v>

01:27:29.760 --> 01:27:33.200
<v Speaker 3>what happens downstream is not going to be repentance.</v>

01:27:33.200 --> 01:27:35.360
<v Speaker 3>This is what Jesus illustrates here.</v>

01:27:35.360 --> 01:27:39.600
<v Speaker 3>It's an example of someone who was contrite, he was sorry, he</v>

01:27:39.600 --> 01:27:40.720
<v Speaker 3>wasn't repentant.</v>

01:27:40.720 --> 01:27:43.680
<v Speaker 3>He didn't change anything about how he thought.</v>

01:27:43.680 --> 01:27:46.000
<v Speaker 3>He thought he got away with it, and he was going to</v>

01:27:46.000 --> 01:27:48.400
<v Speaker 3>go out and make sure that the next guy wouldn't get away</v>

01:27:48.400 --> 01:27:49.200
<v Speaker 3>with it either.</v>

01:27:49.200 --> 01:27:50.320
<v Speaker 3>That's wickedness.</v>

01:27:50.320 --> 01:27:52.400
<v Speaker 3>That's what God calls wickedness.</v>

01:27:52.400 --> 01:27:54.880
<v Speaker 3>So in all the passages that you can read in scripture that</v>

01:27:54.880 --> 01:27:58.080
<v Speaker 3>say repent and be saved, this is why.</v>

01:27:58.080 --> 01:28:02.320
<v Speaker 3>And again, this is why the the order of operations argument simply</v>

01:28:02.320 --> 01:28:04.960
<v Speaker 3>has to be put out the window if we want to be</v>

01:28:04.960 --> 01:28:09.760
<v Speaker 3>consistent about what the doctrine is regarding forgiveness and justification.</v>

01:28:09.760 --> 01:28:13.040
<v Speaker 3>Because if you try to say, well, if this happens, then this</v>

01:28:13.040 --> 01:28:16.960
<v Speaker 3>will happen and this is a result, and therefore we place forgiveness</v>

01:28:16.960 --> 01:28:20.640
<v Speaker 3>here, mechanically that doesn't work.</v>

01:28:20.640 --> 01:28:25.040
<v Speaker 3>The question must be an instantaneous true or false question.</v>

01:28:25.040 --> 01:28:28.000
<v Speaker 3>Was the servant Christian?</v>

01:28:28.000 --> 01:28:33.200
<v Speaker 3>The answer was no, because his immediate response after having been forgiven,</v>

01:28:33.200 --> 01:28:36.640
<v Speaker 3>was to lash out wickedly his fellow servant.</v>

01:28:36.640 --> 01:28:39.680
<v Speaker 3>He was not a Christian, therefore he was not forgiven.</v>

01:28:39.680 --> 01:28:44.320
<v Speaker 3>The cause and effect wasn't that because he failed to repent anyway</v>

01:28:44.480 --> 01:28:48.560
<v Speaker 3>he was unforgiven, it's that he was not a Christian at all.</v>

01:28:48.560 --> 01:28:53.760
<v Speaker 3>In his lack of repentance demonstrated the fruit of a rotten spirit.</v>

01:28:53.760 --> 01:28:57.200
<v Speaker 3>And that's what God punished, was the wickedness where there was no</v>

01:28:57.200 --> 01:28:59.520
<v Speaker 3>repentance because there was no faith.</v>

01:28:59.520 --> 01:29:02.400
<v Speaker 3>So all of this is not about cause and effect, it's not</v>

01:29:02.400 --> 01:29:04.240
<v Speaker 3>about trying to save ourselves.</v>

01:29:04.240 --> 01:29:09.040
<v Speaker 3>It's recognizing when we're Christian, here is how we behave.</v>

01:29:09.040 --> 01:29:12.560
<v Speaker 3>That's why we've mentioned earlier and we mentioned frequently the Epistle of</v>

01:29:12.560 --> 01:29:16.640
<v Speaker 3>James is written to Christians about the Christian life.</v>

01:29:16.880 --> 01:29:19.840
<v Speaker 3>If you read James and you try to figure out, okay, well,</v>

01:29:19.840 --> 01:29:24.480
<v Speaker 3>here's how I can save myself, which is effectively what Rome does</v>

01:29:24.480 --> 01:29:26.560
<v Speaker 3>with portions of that.</v>

01:29:26.560 --> 01:29:29.840
<v Speaker 3>If instead you understand this is talking to Christians saying, here's what</v>

01:29:29.840 --> 01:29:32.800
<v Speaker 3>the repentant life looks like, it all makes sense.</v>

01:29:32.800 --> 01:29:33.920
<v Speaker 3>Is someone a Christian?</v>

01:29:33.920 --> 01:29:35.840
<v Speaker 3>Yes. Here's the repentant life.</v>

01:29:35.840 --> 01:29:38.640
<v Speaker 3>Here's what they'll do: they'll do what's in James.</v>

01:29:38.640 --> 01:29:42.000
<v Speaker 3>If they're not a Christian, they won't do what's in James, they</v>

01:29:42.080 --> 01:29:43.440
<v Speaker 3>won't do what's in the Bible.</v>

01:29:43.440 --> 01:29:44.640
<v Speaker 3>It's that simple.</v>

01:29:44.640 --> 01:29:45.600
<v Speaker 3>Are you Christian?</v>

01:29:45.600 --> 01:29:47.440
<v Speaker 3>You believe in God, you do what He says.</v>

01:29:47.440 --> 01:29:48.880
<v Speaker 3>Because you're Christian.</v>

01:29:48.880 --> 01:29:50.240
<v Speaker 3>It doesn't make you Christian.</v>

01:29:50.240 --> 01:29:54.960
<v Speaker 3>It's the fruit of the Christian spirit.</v>

01:29:55.040 --> 01:29:58.480
<v Speaker 2>So to tie into the episode that we did two weeks ago</v>

01:29:58.480 --> 01:30:05.600
<v Speaker 2>on slander, I can give another good example A general example of</v>

01:30:05.600 --> 01:30:09.680
<v Speaker 2>what it looks like to actually repent, and we spoke about this</v>

01:30:09.680 --> 01:30:13.520
<v Speaker 2>to some degree in the episode on slander.</v>

01:30:13.520 --> 01:30:17.520
<v Speaker 2>But if you have slandered someone, if you have spoken falsely, if</v>

01:30:17.520 --> 01:30:24.400
<v Speaker 2>you have borne false representation against your neighbor, you need to repent</v>

01:30:24.400 --> 01:30:28.240
<v Speaker 2>of that, and one of the components of that sort of repentance</v>

01:30:29.040 --> 01:30:34.640
<v Speaker 2>is to go to those to whom you slandered this other man</v>

01:30:35.760 --> 01:30:38.640
<v Speaker 2>and speak well of him.</v>

01:30:38.640 --> 01:30:42.080
<v Speaker 2>You have to undo, you have to attempt to undo anyway, because</v>

01:30:42.080 --> 01:30:46.640
<v Speaker 2>you probably cannot actually undo, but you have to attempt to undo</v>

01:30:46.640 --> 01:30:49.440
<v Speaker 2>that harm that you caused.</v>

01:30:49.440 --> 01:30:54.480
<v Speaker 2>You spoke evil about your neighbor, you harmed his reputation, probably in</v>

01:30:54.480 --> 01:30:57.920
<v Speaker 2>a way that you cannot actually undo.</v>

01:30:57.920 --> 01:31:02.640
<v Speaker 2>But part of repentance in that case is going to be that</v>

01:31:02.960 --> 01:31:06.400
<v Speaker 2>work to undo the harm that you caused.</v>

01:31:06.400 --> 01:31:10.160
<v Speaker 2>So you need to find those who heard the slander that you</v>

01:31:10.160 --> 01:31:14.400
<v Speaker 2>spoke, and undo it as best you can.</v>

01:31:14.400 --> 01:31:19.520
<v Speaker 2>And very likely the slander at that point has probably spread beyond</v>

01:31:19.680 --> 01:31:24.080
<v Speaker 2>the individuals to whom you spoke it.</v>

01:31:24.080 --> 01:31:28.080
<v Speaker 2>Because often slander does not stop at the first level, as it</v>

01:31:28.080 --> 01:31:31.200
<v Speaker 2>were, the second level, depending on how you want to count.</v>

01:31:31.200 --> 01:31:34.560
<v Speaker 2>And so you may have told another neighbor, well, he may have</v>

01:31:34.560 --> 01:31:41.200
<v Speaker 2>told additional neighbors If you are truly penitent, you need to attempt</v>

01:31:41.200 --> 01:31:45.200
<v Speaker 2>to undo the harm that you caused, which is going to include</v>

01:31:45.200 --> 01:31:51.120
<v Speaker 2>going to those who heard the slander that you spoke second hand.</v>

01:31:51.120 --> 01:31:54.400
<v Speaker 2>That's going to be very difficult in some cases, which is why</v>

01:31:54.400 --> 01:31:56.320
<v Speaker 2>we did an entire episode on slander.</v>

01:31:56.320 --> 01:31:59.360
<v Speaker 2>It is a sin that is very difficult to utter to undo,</v>

01:31:59.360 --> 01:32:01.280
<v Speaker 2>very difficult to ameliorate.</v>

01:32:01.280 --> 01:32:05.760
<v Speaker 2>And again, in many cases you simply cannot actually undo the harm</v>

01:32:05.760 --> 01:32:07.120
<v Speaker 2>that you caused.</v>

01:32:07.120 --> 01:32:10.960
<v Speaker 2>But part of repentance is going to be thinking differently about what</v>

01:32:10.960 --> 01:32:16.080
<v Speaker 2>you did recognizing it was slander Recognizing it was wrong, and then</v>

01:32:16.080 --> 01:32:21.600
<v Speaker 2>attempting to undo it, attempting to do the right thing, attempting to</v>

01:32:21.600 --> 01:32:25.120
<v Speaker 2>restore that man's reputation.</v>

01:32:25.120 --> 01:32:28.560
<v Speaker 2>So you need to go to those to whom you slandered him</v>

01:32:29.040 --> 01:32:31.200
<v Speaker 2>and confess.</v>

01:32:31.200 --> 01:32:34.640
<v Speaker 2>Not in the sense of confession and absolution that you would go</v>

01:32:34.640 --> 01:32:38.560
<v Speaker 2>to, say your pastor, but in the sense of saying, I spoke</v>

01:32:38.960 --> 01:32:43.120
<v Speaker 2>falsely and wickedly against this other man.</v>

01:32:43.120 --> 01:32:45.040
<v Speaker 2>I should not have done so.</v>

01:32:45.040 --> 01:32:46.480
<v Speaker 2>That was sin.</v>

01:32:46.480 --> 01:32:50.080
<v Speaker 2>In fact, here is what I think about that man, and then</v>

01:32:50.080 --> 01:32:51.920
<v Speaker 2>you speak well of him.</v>

01:32:52.480 --> 01:32:57.600
<v Speaker 2>That is part of what it means not to speak falsely about</v>

01:32:57.600 --> 01:33:01.200
<v Speaker 2>your neighbor, not to slander your neighbor.</v>

01:33:01.200 --> 01:33:06.000
<v Speaker 2>We won't rehash exactly the contours of slander in this episode because</v>

01:33:06.000 --> 01:33:08.240
<v Speaker 2>we have an entire episode on it, so you can go back</v>

01:33:08.240 --> 01:33:12.160
<v Speaker 2>and listen to that episode from two weeks ago.</v>

01:33:12.160 --> 01:33:15.120
<v Speaker 2>But the reason that slander is such a good example when it</v>

01:33:15.120 --> 01:33:18.640
<v Speaker 2>comes to repentance is that it highlights that certain sins</v>

01:33:19.600 --> 01:33:23.360
<v Speaker 2>are going to be very difficult when it comes to repentance.</v>

01:33:23.360 --> 01:33:25.200
<v Speaker 2>Some are going to be easy.</v>

01:33:25.200 --> 01:33:29.280
<v Speaker 2>You know, you stole someone's pen, you return the pen.</v>

01:33:29.280 --> 01:33:30.880
<v Speaker 2>You say, I'm sorry for stealing your pen.</v>

01:33:30.880 --> 01:33:32.880
<v Speaker 2>That was wrong, I should not have done that.</v>

01:33:32.880 --> 01:33:34.400
<v Speaker 2>Here's your pen.</v>

01:33:34.400 --> 01:33:35.280
<v Speaker 2>You're done.</v>

01:33:35.280 --> 01:33:36.800
<v Speaker 2>Very easy.</v>

01:33:37.120 --> 01:33:40.880
<v Speaker 2>But when it comes to something like a man's reputation, if you</v>

01:33:40.880 --> 01:33:44.000
<v Speaker 2>steal that from him, if you destroy that, if you harm his</v>

01:33:44.000 --> 01:33:48.880
<v Speaker 2>reputation, that is a harm that it is very difficult to undo.</v>

01:33:48.880 --> 01:33:52.320
<v Speaker 2>And that is the case with a number of sins.</v>

01:33:52.320 --> 01:33:56.400
<v Speaker 2>Fornication is another one where the consequences may be much more difficult</v>

01:33:56.960 --> 01:34:01.280
<v Speaker 2>to undo depending on the particular circumstances.</v>

01:34:01.280 --> 01:34:05.360
<v Speaker 2>That one's going to be particularly complicated in some cases.</v>

01:34:05.360 --> 01:34:10.880
<v Speaker 2>But some sins have greater, more complicated, more difficult</v>

01:34:11.920 --> 01:34:14.720
<v Speaker 2>consequences in this life than others.</v>

01:34:14.720 --> 01:34:20.160
<v Speaker 2>This doesn't necessarily even correlate with whether or not the sin in</v>

01:34:20.160 --> 01:34:23.600
<v Speaker 2>question is a greater sin or a lesser sin.</v>

01:34:23.600 --> 01:34:28.160
<v Speaker 2>There may be relatively small sins that have enormous impact that is</v>

01:34:28.160 --> 01:34:32.560
<v Speaker 2>very difficult to undo, and there may be heinous sins of which</v>

01:34:32.560 --> 01:34:35.040
<v Speaker 2>it is much easier to repent.</v>

01:34:35.040 --> 01:34:38.080
<v Speaker 2>And so for instance, if you violate the fifth commandment, if you</v>

01:34:38.080 --> 01:34:38.560
<v Speaker 2>murder someone,</v>

01:34:39.600 --> 01:34:42.960
<v Speaker 2>the repentance for that is probably going to be easier in a</v>

01:34:42.960 --> 01:34:48.240
<v Speaker 2>practical sense than the repentance for violating the eighth commandment for slander.</v>

01:34:50.720 --> 01:34:54.800
<v Speaker 2>Just because a sin is a greater sin does not mean that</v>

01:34:54.800 --> 01:34:57.920
<v Speaker 2>the repentance for that sin is going to be more difficult, and</v>

01:34:57.920 --> 01:35:01.120
<v Speaker 2>just because a sin is a lesser sin does not mean the</v>

01:35:01.120 --> 01:35:05.120
<v Speaker 2>repentance for that sin is going to be easier.</v>

01:35:05.120 --> 01:35:09.600
<v Speaker 2>But the point is not the difficulty of the repentance itself.</v>

01:35:09.600 --> 01:35:13.520
<v Speaker 2>The point is that repentance is part of this.</v>

01:35:13.520 --> 01:35:17.840
<v Speaker 2>And part of repentance is attempting to undo that harm that you</v>

01:35:17.840 --> 01:35:23.120
<v Speaker 2>caused. Because if you think differently about this thing that you did,</v>

01:35:23.120 --> 01:35:27.440
<v Speaker 2>if you have turned away from that sin, part of that turning</v>

01:35:27.440 --> 01:35:30.960
<v Speaker 2>away from the sin, and moving away from the sin and toward</v>

01:35:30.960 --> 01:35:34.000
<v Speaker 2>the things of God, is doing what is right.</v>

01:35:34.000 --> 01:35:38.800
<v Speaker 2>And part of doing what is right is restoring what is rightfully</v>

01:35:38.800 --> 01:35:43.440
<v Speaker 2>the property of another, or at least attempting to do so as</v>

01:35:43.440 --> 01:35:46.720
<v Speaker 2>best you can given the circumstances.</v>

01:35:46.720 --> 01:35:50.560
<v Speaker 2>Now of course there are as it were limitations to this and</v>

01:35:50.560 --> 01:35:53.600
<v Speaker 2>so we do not want to slide into</v>

01:35:54.480 --> 01:35:58.240
<v Speaker 2>the old Roman Catholic way of thinking and say that absolutely every</v>

01:35:58.240 --> 01:36:03.840
<v Speaker 2>single tiny sin you've ever committed must be explicitly confessed and you</v>

01:36:03.840 --> 01:36:07.280
<v Speaker 2>must do X, Y, and Z with regard to it.</v>

01:36:07.280 --> 01:36:08.800
<v Speaker 2>That's not what we're saying.</v>

01:36:08.800 --> 01:36:11.760
<v Speaker 2>If you stole a piece of gum from the person who sat</v>

01:36:11.760 --> 01:36:16.000
<v Speaker 2>next to you in elementary school, yes that was a sin.</v>

01:36:16.000 --> 01:36:18.320
<v Speaker 2>You've covered that when you've prayed the Lord's Prayer.</v>

01:36:18.320 --> 01:36:22.480
<v Speaker 2>You don't need to obsess over that, find that person and give</v>

01:36:22.480 --> 01:36:24.000
<v Speaker 2>him back a piece of gum.</v>

01:36:24.000 --> 01:36:26.240
<v Speaker 2>That's not what we're saying.</v>

01:36:26.240 --> 01:36:29.040
<v Speaker 2>What we are saying is that as best you can</v>

01:36:30.000 --> 01:36:30.640
<v Speaker 2>with regard</v>

01:36:31.760 --> 01:36:34.720
<v Speaker 2>to your current situation, where you are in life, all of these</v>

01:36:34.720 --> 01:36:36.480
<v Speaker 2>things. This is a matter of wisdom.</v>

01:36:36.480 --> 01:36:39.120
<v Speaker 2>There are many matters in the Christian life where it is a</v>

01:36:39.120 --> 01:36:40.160
<v Speaker 2>matter of wisdom.</v>

01:36:40.160 --> 01:36:44.240
<v Speaker 2>It is not a simple formula where if X, then two Y.</v>

01:36:44.480 --> 01:36:47.520
<v Speaker 2>That's not how this works.</v>

01:36:47.520 --> 01:36:49.360
<v Speaker 2>Taking into account</v>

01:36:50.640 --> 01:36:54.480
<v Speaker 2>wisdom, your conscience, all of these other factors, you are to do</v>

01:36:54.480 --> 01:36:57.120
<v Speaker 2>the best that you can to undo the harm that you have</v>

01:36:57.120 --> 01:37:02.800
<v Speaker 2>caused, because that is part of turning away from the sin, recognizing</v>

01:37:02.800 --> 01:37:07.200
<v Speaker 2>that it is sin, and attempting to do not just the right</v>

01:37:07.200 --> 01:37:10.000
<v Speaker 2>thing, but the Christian thing.</v>

01:37:10.000 --> 01:37:13.200
<v Speaker 2>The thing that God would want you to do.</v>

01:37:13.200 --> 01:37:17.600
<v Speaker 2>And as we've mentioned before, each of the commandments has this foil</v>

01:37:18.240 --> 01:37:23.600
<v Speaker 2>to the statement of the command, the bare statement of the commandment.</v>

01:37:23.600 --> 01:37:26.480
<v Speaker 2>And so when it says thou shalt not murder it also means</v>

01:37:26.480 --> 01:37:27.920
<v Speaker 2>to help your neighbor.</v>

01:37:27.920 --> 01:37:30.960
<v Speaker 2>When it says thou shalt not commit adultery, it also means to</v>

01:37:30.960 --> 01:37:34.480
<v Speaker 2>help your neighbor maintain his relationship with his spouse.</v>

01:37:34.560 --> 01:37:38.560
<v Speaker 2>When it says thou shalt not bear false witness, it means to</v>

01:37:38.560 --> 01:37:41.680
<v Speaker 2>speak well of your neighbor.</v>

01:37:41.680 --> 01:37:44.400
<v Speaker 2>So this is part of the Christian life.</v>

01:37:44.400 --> 01:37:48.880
<v Speaker 2>You turn from the evil and you do the good.</v>

01:37:49.040 --> 01:37:49.280
They

01:37:49.360 --> 01:37:52.240
<v Speaker 3>The example of slander highlights another important</v>

01:37:53.200 --> 01:37:58.160
<v Speaker 3>facet of repentance, which is that often repentance cannot be secret.</v>

01:37:58.160 --> 01:38:02.480
<v Speaker 3>It's not simply an inward turning of your heart, because it's necessarily</v>

01:38:02.560 --> 01:38:04.960
<v Speaker 3>how you're gonna live the rest of your life.</v>

01:38:04.960 --> 01:38:07.440
<v Speaker 3>And if you didn't used to be a Christian, now you're a</v>

01:38:07.440 --> 01:38:11.200
<v Speaker 3>Christian, your naturally repentant life is just going to look Christian.</v>

01:38:11.200 --> 01:38:14.800
<v Speaker 3>And if there are particular sins of which you need to repent,</v>

01:38:14.800 --> 01:38:19.520
<v Speaker 3>for which others were involved and must necessarily be involved again because</v>

01:38:20.400 --> 01:38:25.440
<v Speaker 3>as part of repudiating your evil past, you have to somehow make</v>

01:38:25.440 --> 01:38:28.240
<v Speaker 3>amends if it's appropriate, as Corey said.</v>

01:38:28.240 --> 01:38:29.440
<v Speaker 3>It's not always appropriate.</v>

01:38:29.440 --> 01:38:34.560
<v Speaker 3>It may well be that for you to try to patch things</v>

01:38:34.560 --> 01:38:38.800
<v Speaker 3>up, to try to make amends, would actually make worse whatever situation</v>

01:38:38.800 --> 01:38:39.760
<v Speaker 3>there was.</v>

01:38:39.760 --> 01:38:40.720
<v Speaker 3>That's a matter of wisdom.</v>

01:38:40.960 --> 01:38:44.880
<v Speaker 3>It's not saying you have to do this because you're already forgiven.</v>

01:38:44.880 --> 01:38:48.240
<v Speaker 3>Again, as I said online and we missed an episode last week,</v>

01:38:48.240 --> 01:38:52.640
<v Speaker 3>the you are forgiven episode is a counterpart to this, especially if</v>

01:38:52.640 --> 01:38:55.680
<v Speaker 3>your conscience is burdened at the end of this episode, go back</v>

01:38:55.680 --> 01:38:58.800
<v Speaker 3>and listen to you are forgiven, because that's a part of it.</v>

01:38:58.800 --> 01:39:02.640
<v Speaker 3>But as we said, because this stuff is not on a timeline,</v>

01:39:02.640 --> 01:39:05.920
<v Speaker 3>we're not bound to get these things in the right order, because</v>

01:39:05.920 --> 01:39:09.600
<v Speaker 3>it's often the case that you're forgiven and then you continue to</v>

01:39:09.600 --> 01:39:13.520
<v Speaker 3>repent. It's not necessarily going to be secret.</v>

01:39:13.520 --> 01:39:16.080
<v Speaker 3>I think one of the most important things to take away from</v>

01:39:16.080 --> 01:39:22.240
<v Speaker 3>this, once you understand what repentance actually is, is this simple point.</v>

01:39:22.240 --> 01:39:26.080
<v Speaker 3>Repentance does not occur at church on Sunday morning.</v>

01:39:26.080 --> 01:39:29.520
<v Speaker 3>The only case where repentance would occur at church on a Sunday</v>

01:39:29.520 --> 01:39:33.520
<v Speaker 3>morning fully is if you did something to someone else at church</v>

01:39:33.520 --> 01:39:37.600
<v Speaker 3>and you needed to confess your sin to them to be patched</v>

01:39:37.600 --> 01:39:40.720
<v Speaker 3>up to be forgiven before you go to communion.</v>

01:39:40.720 --> 01:39:44.080
<v Speaker 3>But your repenting is the rest of the day and it's the</v>

01:39:44.080 --> 01:39:45.040
<v Speaker 3>rest of the week.</v>

01:39:45.040 --> 01:39:47.680
<v Speaker 3>You're repenting is for the sins that you're committing.</v>

01:39:47.680 --> 01:39:51.440
<v Speaker 3>And so maybe your conscience is convicted by a sermon.</v>

01:39:51.440 --> 01:39:54.560
<v Speaker 3>And so you repent during the sermon for something.</v>

01:39:54.560 --> 01:39:59.040
<v Speaker 3>But the repentance isn't located in the pews in the morning when</v>

01:39:59.040 --> 01:40:00.240
<v Speaker 3>you hear the sermon.</v>

01:40:00.240 --> 01:40:03.280
<v Speaker 3>The repentance is the change of heart that you take with you</v>

01:40:03.280 --> 01:40:05.280
<v Speaker 3>for the rest of the day and the week and the month,</v>

01:40:05.280 --> 01:40:07.120
<v Speaker 3>and hopefully for the rest of your life.</v>

01:40:07.120 --> 01:40:08.800
<v Speaker 3>That's the repentance.</v>

01:40:08.800 --> 01:40:12.240
<v Speaker 3>So even if it has a birthplace and a moment, it's a</v>

01:40:12.240 --> 01:40:13.760
<v Speaker 3>new part of you.</v>

01:40:13.760 --> 01:40:14.960
<v Speaker 3>That's the whole thing.</v>

01:40:14.960 --> 01:40:17.760
<v Speaker 3>Repentance is not a moment that's isolated.</v>

01:40:17.760 --> 01:40:20.320
<v Speaker 3>My mom sent me that horrible picture of me.</v>

01:40:20.320 --> 01:40:22.000
<v Speaker 3>The repentance is continuous.</v>

01:40:22.080 --> 01:40:24.080
<v Speaker 3>It's like that's not me anymore.</v>

01:40:24.080 --> 01:40:26.080
<v Speaker 3>I that's just not me.</v>

01:40:26.080 --> 01:40:28.320
<v Speaker 3>That's the way this works.</v>

01:40:28.320 --> 01:40:32.400
<v Speaker 3>It's a permanent new state of affairs.</v>

01:40:32.400 --> 01:40:35.040
<v Speaker 3>Last passage I want to read is from Matthew three.</v>

01:40:35.040 --> 01:40:39.120
<v Speaker 3>It's one we read a couple weeks ago from John the Baptist,</v>

01:40:39.120 --> 01:40:41.360
<v Speaker 3>as he was baptizing Jesus.</v>

01:40:41.360 --> 01:40:44.320
<v Speaker 3>But when he saw many of the Pharisees and Sadducees coming to</v>

01:40:44.320 --> 01:40:47.680
<v Speaker 3>his baptism, he said to them, You brood of vipers, who warned</v>

01:40:47.680 --> 01:40:49.760
<v Speaker 3>you to flee from the wrath to come?</v>

01:40:49.760 --> 01:40:54.000
<v Speaker 3>Bear fruit in keeping with repentance, and do not presume to say</v>

01:40:54.000 --> 01:40:57.520
<v Speaker 3>to yourselves, We have Abraham as our father, for I tell you</v>

01:40:57.600 --> 01:41:00.960
<v Speaker 3>God is able from these stones to raise up children of Abraham.</v>

01:41:00.960 --> 01:41:03.600
<v Speaker 3>Even now the axe is laid to the root of the trees.</v>

01:41:03.600 --> 01:41:07.840
<v Speaker 3>Every tree therefore that does not bear good fruit is cut down</v>

01:41:07.840 --> 01:41:10.320
<v Speaker 3>and thrown into the fire.</v>

01:41:10.320 --> 01:41:15.360
<v Speaker 3>When John contrasted the wickedness of the Pharisees and their lack of</v>

01:41:15.360 --> 01:41:20.640
<v Speaker 3>repentance with their claims that Abraham was their father, he was describing</v>

01:41:20.640 --> 01:41:21.600
<v Speaker 3>us too.</v>

01:41:21.600 --> 01:41:26.080
<v Speaker 3>Every church today has its traditions and its confessions.</v>

01:41:26.080 --> 01:41:28.800
<v Speaker 3>Some of them, one in particular, has a pope.</v>

01:41:28.800 --> 01:41:32.160
<v Speaker 3>We've all got something that functions as a pope in our churches,</v>

01:41:32.160 --> 01:41:34.800
<v Speaker 3>even as just some doctrinal position.</v>

01:41:34.800 --> 01:41:39.840
<v Speaker 3>And the threat that these doctrines pose to us is not that</v>

01:41:39.840 --> 01:41:44.640
<v Speaker 3>they're false necessarily, although obviously as Lutherans, we would disagree with many</v>

01:41:44.640 --> 01:41:47.760
<v Speaker 3>of you about certain doctrines that you hold.</v>

01:41:47.760 --> 01:41:52.640
<v Speaker 3>When the doctrine that a particular denomination holds becomes an idol for</v>

01:41:52.640 --> 01:41:58.640
<v Speaker 3>that denomination, it rapidly turns into the Farisacle situation, where there are</v>

01:41:58.640 --> 01:42:01.680
<v Speaker 3>many Lutherans to say we have Luther as our father.</v>

01:42:01.680 --> 01:42:04.320
<v Speaker 3>How can I possibly be guilty of sin?</v>

01:42:04.320 --> 01:42:06.480
<v Speaker 3>You say that I have some false doctrine.</v>

01:42:06.480 --> 01:42:08.480
<v Speaker 3>I confess the book of Concord.</v>

01:42:08.480 --> 01:42:12.000
<v Speaker 3>You know, Presbyterians and others, you have your Westminster confession and all</v>

01:42:12.000 --> 01:42:16.240
<v Speaker 3>these other things, and you say, I hold proudly to this doctrine.</v>

01:42:16.240 --> 01:42:21.440
<v Speaker 3>Well, if that is your basis for a claim of salvation, you're</v>

01:42:21.440 --> 01:42:23.280
<v Speaker 3>missing the point of scripture.</v>

01:42:23.520 --> 01:42:27.680
<v Speaker 3>Because if you're doing something that's sinful and God warns you to</v>

01:42:27.680 --> 01:42:32.000
<v Speaker 3>bear fruit in keeping with repentance, and your answer is, I don't</v>

01:42:31.920 --> 01:42:35.520
<v Speaker 3>need to think differently afterwards, I have the right confession.</v>

01:42:35.840 --> 01:42:38.000
<v Speaker 3>God warns that that's crap.</v>

01:42:38.000 --> 01:42:39.120
<v Speaker 3>That's BS.</v>

01:42:39.120 --> 01:42:43.840
<v Speaker 3>There's no such thing as having a true confession without having true</v>

01:42:43.840 --> 01:42:48.640
<v Speaker 3>fruit. If your confession is true, but you are false in confessing</v>

01:42:48.640 --> 01:42:51.760
<v Speaker 3>it, then you make yourself a liar by the very confession that</v>

01:42:51.760 --> 01:42:52.320
<v Speaker 3>you make.</v>

01:42:52.320 --> 01:42:55.280
<v Speaker 3>And if your confession is false, then it's worthless anyway.</v>

01:42:55.280 --> 01:43:00.240
<v Speaker 3>But the fruits in keeping with repentance are the Christian life.</v>

01:43:00.240 --> 01:43:04.000
<v Speaker 3>That's why the Epistle of James is so crucial, because it describes</v>

01:43:04.000 --> 01:43:05.120
<v Speaker 3>a Christian life.</v>

01:43:05.120 --> 01:43:09.120
<v Speaker 3>It's an exhortation to be Christian.</v>

01:43:09.120 --> 01:43:13.120
<v Speaker 3>And so to leave you for this week, go read your Bibles.</v>

01:43:13.120 --> 01:43:16.240
<v Speaker 3>I would recommend as your is the reading for this.</v>

01:43:16.240 --> 01:43:17.600
<v Speaker 3>Go read Colossians.</v>

01:43:17.600 --> 01:43:18.400
<v Speaker 3>Just read the whole book.</v>

01:43:18.400 --> 01:43:19.520
<v Speaker 3>It's not very long.</v>

01:43:19.520 --> 01:43:21.680
<v Speaker 3>It's an epistle about repentance.</v>

01:43:21.680 --> 01:43:25.200
<v Speaker 3>When you read it in view of thinking differently afterward, it's what</v>

01:43:25.200 --> 01:43:26.480
<v Speaker 3>the whole thing is about.</v>

01:43:26.480 --> 01:43:30.560
<v Speaker 3>Paul's talking about waging war with the elemental spirits of this age</v>

01:43:30.560 --> 01:43:33.040
<v Speaker 3>and struggling with these things.</v>

01:43:33.040 --> 01:43:38.000
<v Speaker 3>It's talking about the Christian life in view of rejecting that which</v>

01:43:38.000 --> 01:43:42.480
<v Speaker 3>is worldly, that which is fleshly, and embracing that which is godly,</v>

01:43:42.480 --> 01:43:45.360
<v Speaker 3>that's repentance, that's sanctification.</v>

01:43:45.360 --> 01:43:49.920
<v Speaker 3>If you are Christian, you are being sanctified continuously by the indwelling</v>

01:43:49.920 --> 01:43:51.040
<v Speaker 3>of the Holy Spirit.</v>

01:43:51.120 --> 01:43:51.920
<v Speaker 3>And that means</v>

01:43:53.040 --> 01:43:55.840
<v Speaker 3>Daily experiencing repentance.</v>

01:43:55.840 --> 01:43:59.200
<v Speaker 3>And every day you're going to be repenting for something new.</v>

01:43:59.760 --> 01:44:02.800
<v Speaker 3>certainly if you're living in the Word, and if you're not, then</v>

01:44:02.800 --> 01:44:03.760
<v Speaker 3>that's something to repent of.</v>

01:44:03.760 --> 01:44:04.880
<v Speaker 3>So you know, I should read more.</v>

01:44:04.880 --> 01:44:05.760
<v Speaker 3>I'm guilty of it.</v>

01:44:05.760 --> 01:44:06.960
<v Speaker 3>I don't read the Bible every day.</v>

01:44:07.200 --> 01:44:07.920
<v Speaker 3>I try to.</v>

01:44:07.920 --> 01:44:09.920
<v Speaker 3>I s frequently fail.</v>

01:44:09.920 --> 01:44:11.280
<v Speaker 3>Or I don't read enough.</v>

01:44:11.280 --> 01:44:12.880
<v Speaker 3>Like I I should do more.</v>

01:44:12.880 --> 01:44:15.040
<v Speaker 3>And it's not oh I gotta read the Bible to save myself.</v>

01:44:15.040 --> 01:44:16.480
<v Speaker 3>It's this is God's stuff.</v>

01:44:16.480 --> 01:44:19.040
<v Speaker 3>What am I doing wasting my time and setting around reading the</v>

01:44:19.040 --> 01:44:20.080
<v Speaker 3>Word of God?</v>

01:44:20.080 --> 01:44:24.080
<v Speaker 3>The more time that we spend in His Word, just reading it</v>

01:44:24.160 --> 01:44:28.400
<v Speaker 3>and meditating on it, taking it seriously, the less opportunity there is</v>

01:44:28.400 --> 01:44:32.240
<v Speaker 3>for sin, and the more God's word will armor our hearts and</v>

01:44:32.240 --> 01:44:35.280
<v Speaker 3>our minds to be able to recognize, hey, this thing that this</v>

01:44:35.280 --> 01:44:37.600
<v Speaker 3>guy is saying over here, this thing that my friend wants me</v>

01:44:37.600 --> 01:44:40.560
<v Speaker 3>to do, I shouldn't actually do that because it's not true.</v>

01:44:40.560 --> 01:44:42.960
<v Speaker 3>It's actually sinful.</v>

01:44:42.960 --> 01:44:49.040
<v Speaker 3>To think differently afterward is the description of the Christian life.</v>

01:44:49.040 --> 01:44:51.840
<v Speaker 3>Repent is the description of the Christian life.</v>

01:44:51.840 --> 01:44:54.320
<v Speaker 3>It's not a feeling, it's a thought.</v>

01:44:54.320 --> 01:44:58.240
<v Speaker 3>It's an ongoing process because it's the process of sanctification.</v>

01:44:58.400 --> 01:45:01.200
<v Speaker 3>And when you look at the words that are involved, you can</v>

01:45:01.200 --> 01:45:02.800
<v Speaker 3>go read the definitions for these words.</v>

01:45:02.800 --> 01:45:04.400
<v Speaker 3>We're not playing any games here.</v>

01:45:04.400 --> 01:45:06.400
<v Speaker 3>We didn't change anything around.</v>

01:45:06.400 --> 01:45:09.760
<v Speaker 3>And then you understand that think differently afterward is literally what repent</v>

01:45:09.760 --> 01:45:12.480
<v Speaker 3>means. When you look at all the places in the New Testament</v>

01:45:12.880 --> 01:45:18.240
<v Speaker 3>epistles that basically say think differently afterward, it's talking about the entire</v>

01:45:18.240 --> 01:45:19.360
<v Speaker 3>Christian life.</v>

01:45:19.360 --> 01:45:22.480
<v Speaker 3>This is something that's largely missing from a lot of our preaching</v>

01:45:22.480 --> 01:45:26.400
<v Speaker 3>today. Now, some churches are getting better and some regards in some</v>

01:45:26.400 --> 01:45:30.240
<v Speaker 3>areas, but the whole counsel of God is for all of this.</v>

01:45:30.240 --> 01:45:33.600
<v Speaker 3>We don't get to pick and choose, like a buffet, which parts</v>

01:45:33.600 --> 01:45:36.480
<v Speaker 3>we want and which parts we're just going to leave.</v>

01:45:36.480 --> 01:45:40.800
<v Speaker 3>The Christian life of repentance is one where we have everything that</v>

01:45:40.800 --> 01:45:42.400
<v Speaker 3>God wants to give us.</v>

01:45:42.400 --> 01:45:46.640
<v Speaker 3>And it's only by refusing to think about what God says, to</v>

01:45:46.640 --> 01:45:49.680
<v Speaker 3>believe what he has told us, and to live a life and</v>

01:45:49.680 --> 01:45:54.080
<v Speaker 3>bearing with those fruits that we miss out on everything God wants</v>

01:45:54.080 --> 01:45:54.960
<v Speaker 3>to give us.</v>

01:45:54.960 --> 01:45:58.720
<v Speaker 3>And the more you do that, the more you ultimately endanger your</v>

01:45:58.720 --> 01:46:03.040
<v Speaker 3>salvation by master of degrees just not caring.</v>

01:46:03.200 --> 01:46:05.920
<v Speaker 3>It's not that if you momentarily screw up, you're going to.</v>

01:46:05.920 --> 01:46:07.440
<v Speaker 3>We sin every day.</v>

01:46:07.440 --> 01:46:09.200
<v Speaker 3>We need forgiveness every day.</v>

01:46:09.200 --> 01:46:11.520
<v Speaker 3>We ask for it and we receive it daily.</v>

01:46:11.520 --> 01:46:14.800
<v Speaker 3>We receive forgiveness that was one at the cross.</v>

01:46:14.800 --> 01:46:18.240
<v Speaker 3>Repentance means thinking differently afterward.</v>

01:46:18.240 --> 01:46:22.640
<v Speaker 3>As long as we're doing that, we're living the godly life.</v>

01:46:22.640 --> 01:46:24.640
<v Speaker 3>And that's what we would wish for everyone.</v>

01:46:24.640 --> 01:46:26.240
<v Speaker 3>You're not going to save yourself.</v>

01:46:26.240 --> 01:46:27.520
<v Speaker 3>You're already saved.</v>

01:46:27.520 --> 01:46:28.560
<v Speaker 3>So live like</v>

01:46:28.560 --> 01:46:28.880
it

01:46:29.760 --> 01:46:35.360
<v Speaker 2>want to leave you with one of those denominational distinctives that Woe</v>

01:46:35.360 --> 01:46:40.000
<v Speaker 2>has referenced throughout this episode, but in a way that is useful,</v>

01:46:40.000 --> 01:46:43.360
<v Speaker 2>that is profitable, and will maybe annoy some people just a little</v>

01:46:43.360 --> 01:46:49.760
<v Speaker 2>bit. Last week, before I lost my voice due to that cold,</v>

01:46:49.760 --> 01:46:53.680
<v Speaker 2>I wrote a homily on the readings for the week and the</v>

01:46:54.080 --> 01:46:55.440
<v Speaker 2>core topic was repentance.</v>

01:46:55.440 --> 01:46:57.920
<v Speaker 2>Now that I have my voice back, I will record that and</v>

01:46:57.920 --> 01:47:00.000
<v Speaker 2>put it in the show notes.</v>

01:47:00.000 --> 01:47:03.680
<v Speaker 2>But what I want to highlight to close out this episode is</v>

01:47:03.680 --> 01:47:06.560
<v Speaker 2>that really this is law and gospel.</v>

01:47:06.560 --> 01:47:08.560
<v Speaker 2>And I know many Lutherans will be happy to hear me say</v>

01:47:09.360 --> 01:47:13.360
<v Speaker 2>that. And so you have contrition, because that is the law.</v>

01:47:13.360 --> 01:47:18.160
<v Speaker 2>The law in the terrors of conscience drive you to contrition, and</v>

01:47:18.160 --> 01:47:23.440
<v Speaker 2>then the gospel is that second part, faith.</v>

01:47:23.440 --> 01:47:28.560
<v Speaker 2>But really the word repent itself is gospel, if you think about</v>

01:47:28.560 --> 01:47:30.720
<v Speaker 2>it in the right light.</v>

01:47:30.720 --> 01:47:34.320
<v Speaker 2>The first words of Christ recorded in the Gospel of Mark are</v>

01:47:34.480 --> 01:47:38.080
<v Speaker 2>the time is fulfilled, and the kingdom of God is at hand,</v>

01:47:38.080 --> 01:47:40.720
<v Speaker 2>repent and believe the gospel.</v>

01:47:40.720 --> 01:47:44.800
<v Speaker 2>I would contend that the entirety of that, for the Christian, is</v>

01:47:44.880 --> 01:47:46.800
<v Speaker 2>gospel gospel.</v>

01:47:46.800 --> 01:47:49.840
<v Speaker 2>And the reason for that is simple.</v>

01:47:49.840 --> 01:47:56.080
<v Speaker 2>If Christ, if God tells you, repent, God does not command us</v>

01:47:56.080 --> 01:48:02.240
<v Speaker 2>to do that which is pointless or fruitless, meaningless.</v>

01:48:02.240 --> 01:48:07.280
<v Speaker 2>And so if God commands us to repent, the gospel is necessarily</v>

01:48:07.280 --> 01:48:09.600
<v Speaker 2>entailed by that command.</v>

01:48:09.600 --> 01:48:14.480
<v Speaker 2>Because in order for repentance to have any meaning, to be worth</v>

01:48:14.480 --> 01:48:20.000
<v Speaker 2>doing, to be something that is not fruitless, there must be forgiveness</v>

01:48:20.000 --> 01:48:21.440
<v Speaker 2>of sins.</v>

01:48:21.440 --> 01:48:25.280
<v Speaker 2>And so the fact that we can repent Because that is what</v>

01:48:25.280 --> 01:48:28.080
<v Speaker 2>Christ is saying when he orders us to repent, he is saying</v>

01:48:28.240 --> 01:48:33.040
<v Speaker 2>repentance is possible, and so the fact that we can repent means</v>

01:48:33.040 --> 01:48:35.200
<v Speaker 2>there is forgiveness of sins.</v>

01:48:35.200 --> 01:48:37.680
<v Speaker 2>That is the word of both the law and the gospel there</v>

01:48:37.840 --> 01:48:40.000
<v Speaker 2>together in one word.</v>

01:48:40.000 --> 01:48:44.560
<v Speaker 2>Repent, turn from your sins, think differently about these things that you</v>

01:48:44.560 --> 01:48:46.160
<v Speaker 2>have done in the past.</v>

01:48:46.160 --> 01:48:49.600
<v Speaker 2>Feel contrition for the evil you have committed.</v>

01:48:50.400 --> 01:48:54.480
<v Speaker 2>But the good news is, there is forgiveness of sins.</v>

01:48:54.480 --> 01:48:56.720
<v Speaker 2>You can turn from those things.</v>

01:48:56.720 --> 01:49:00.560
<v Speaker 2>You can be given the free gift of faith, and in that</v>

01:49:00.560 --> 01:49:02.880
<v Speaker 2>faith your sins are forgiven.</v>

01:49:02.880 --> 01:49:05.840
<v Speaker 2>And so we have both the voice of the law and the</v>

01:49:05.840 --> 01:49:09.120
<v Speaker 2>voice of the gospel here in the first words of Christ, as</v>

01:49:09.120 --> 01:49:12.560
<v Speaker 2>recorded in the Gospel of Mark.</v>

01:49:12.560 --> 01:49:16.560
<v Speaker 2>And so I'll leave you with a flowchart that is actually good</v>

01:49:16.560 --> 01:49:22.960
<v Speaker 2>news. For once in the entirety of the existence of flowcharts.</v>

01:49:22.960 --> 01:49:28.160
<v Speaker 2>When you sin, there are two possible reactions initially you can be</v>

01:49:28.160 --> 01:49:33.120
<v Speaker 2>impenetent, or you can be penitent in the sense of contrite.</v>

01:49:33.120 --> 01:49:34.720
<v Speaker 2>So that's contrition.</v>

01:49:34.720 --> 01:49:41.360
<v Speaker 2>The Christian will feel contrition, will respond to that sin by being</v>

01:49:41.360 --> 01:49:46.080
<v Speaker 2>contrite. Now the impenitent, high handed sinner, we know where that leads.</v>

01:49:46.080 --> 01:49:49.360
<v Speaker 2>We can leave him aside.</v>

01:49:49.360 --> 01:49:53.680
<v Speaker 2>But once you have that contrition, this is where there's a real</v>

01:49:53.680 --> 01:49:55.360
<v Speaker 2>fork in the road.</v>

01:49:55.360 --> 01:49:57.840
<v Speaker 2>Because we see contrition for</v>

01:49:58.880 --> 01:50:02.240
<v Speaker 2>for instance in two men in Scripture.</v>

01:50:02.240 --> 01:50:07.440
<v Speaker 2>The first is Judas, and the second is Peter.</v>

01:50:07.440 --> 01:50:09.840
<v Speaker 2>Judas is most certainly contrite.</v>

01:50:10.160 --> 01:50:14.880
<v Speaker 2>He feels the terrors of conscience and he feels great sorrow for</v>

01:50:14.880 --> 01:50:18.880
<v Speaker 2>the evil he committed in betraying Christ.</v>

01:50:18.880 --> 01:50:21.840
<v Speaker 2>But he chooses the first option and he despairs.</v>

01:50:22.800 --> 01:50:24.640
<v Speaker 2>And so he's damned.</v>

01:50:24.640 --> 01:50:29.360
<v Speaker 2>He will spend eternity in hell, because he was contrite, but he</v>

01:50:29.360 --> 01:50:34.240
<v Speaker 2>despaired. The second option is what Peter does.</v>

01:50:34.240 --> 01:50:36.400
<v Speaker 2>Peter also betrays Christ.</v>

01:50:36.400 --> 01:50:40.480
<v Speaker 2>He denies him three times, after emphatically saying that he would go</v>

01:50:40.480 --> 01:50:44.240
<v Speaker 2>to death with him, before denying him.</v>

01:50:44.240 --> 01:50:50.000
<v Speaker 2>But Peter does not despair Because Peter is propped up by Christ.</v>

01:50:50.160 --> 01:50:53.520
<v Speaker 2>He is brought back into communion with Christ.</v>

01:50:53.520 --> 01:50:56.960
<v Speaker 2>He is given a restored and a renewed faith.</v>

01:50:56.960 --> 01:50:59.040
<v Speaker 2>And so Peter has hope.</v>

01:50:59.040 --> 01:51:00.160
<v Speaker 2>He has faith.</v>

01:51:00.160 --> 01:51:04.240
<v Speaker 2>Ultimately, those are really the same thing.</v>

01:51:04.240 --> 01:51:06.400
<v Speaker 2>That is the Christian life.</v>

01:51:06.400 --> 01:51:08.880
<v Speaker 2>You don't despair because you sinned.</v>

01:51:08.880 --> 01:51:11.760
<v Speaker 2>You don't despair because you feel contrite for your sins.</v>

01:51:11.760 --> 01:51:13.200
<v Speaker 2>In fact, when you feel contrite</v>

01:51:14.240 --> 01:51:18.800
<v Speaker 2>for your sins, you should recognize that as a good thing, because</v>

01:51:18.800 --> 01:51:22.640
<v Speaker 2>the alternative to that is to be that impenitent sinner.</v>

01:51:22.640 --> 01:51:26.480
<v Speaker 2>If you do not feel contrition with regard to your sins, that</v>

01:51:26.480 --> 01:51:28.400
<v Speaker 2>is when you are impenetrable.</v>

01:51:28.400 --> 01:51:32.400
<v Speaker 2>But if you feel sorrow for your sins, you recognize you've committed</v>

01:51:32.400 --> 01:51:35.920
<v Speaker 2>this evil, and then you turn and think differently about it, you</v>

01:51:35.920 --> 01:51:40.880
<v Speaker 2>repent. That is when faith comes in, and you have the forgiveness</v>

01:51:40.880 --> 01:51:42.400
<v Speaker 2>of sins.</v>

01:51:42.400 --> 01:51:47.280
<v Speaker 2>Not because you repent, not because you feel contrite, but because that</v>

01:51:47.280 --> 01:51:48.960
<v Speaker 2>is how God works.</v>

01:51:48.960 --> 01:51:52.480
<v Speaker 2>He uses the law to drive you to the gospel.</v>

01:51:52.640 --> 01:51:56.640
<v Speaker 2>Because the law drives you to repentance, it shows you your sin,</v>

01:51:56.640 --> 01:52:00.880
<v Speaker 2>it holds up the mirror, and points out to you, you are</v>

01:52:00.880 --> 01:52:05.680
<v Speaker 2>a sinner, you have committed great evil, you have transgressed, you are</v>

01:52:05.680 --> 01:52:09.760
<v Speaker 2>the reason Christ was nailed to the cross.</v>

01:52:09.760 --> 01:52:11.760
<v Speaker 2>But that's the gospel.</v>

01:52:11.760 --> 01:52:16.400
<v Speaker 2>Christ crucified for sinners.</v>

01:52:16.400 --> 01:52:21.600
<v Speaker 2>That is good news because in that you have the free forgiveness</v>

01:52:21.600 --> 01:52:28.480
<v Speaker 2>of sins given to you by grace in faith.</v>

01:52:28.480 --> 01:52:32.960
<v Speaker 2>And so when you hear the word repent, don't just think law.</v>

01:52:32.960 --> 01:52:36.480
<v Speaker 2>Don't just think, oh, this is something that I have to do.</v>

01:52:36.480 --> 01:52:40.800
<v Speaker 2>This is something, some work, this some burden that is placed upon</v>

01:52:40.800 --> 01:52:45.200
<v Speaker 2>me. Recognize in the word repent that both the law and the</v>

01:52:45.200 --> 01:52:48.880
<v Speaker 2>gospel are present, and that it is actually in fact good news</v>

01:52:48.880 --> 01:52:51.120
<v Speaker 2>for us that we have God's law.</v>

01:52:51.120 --> 01:52:55.360
<v Speaker 2>Because as Christians, yes, the law will always accuse us in this</v>

01:52:55.360 --> 01:52:58.560
<v Speaker 2>life. But it is Lex Sperakusat.</v>

01:52:58.560 --> 01:53:00.480
<v Speaker 2>It is the law always accuses.</v>

01:53:00.480 --> 01:53:03.040
<v Speaker 2>It is not the law only accuses.</v>

01:53:03.040 --> 01:53:06.800
<v Speaker 2>Because the law does not only accuse, the law also guides us</v>

01:53:06.800 --> 01:53:08.240
<v Speaker 2>in the Christian life.</v>

01:53:08.240 --> 01:53:10.160
<v Speaker 2>It aids us in our sanctification.</v>

01:53:10.160 --> 01:53:16.000
<v Speaker 2>The law itself is good news, for those with ears to hear,</v>

01:53:16.000 --> 01:53:21.040
<v Speaker 2>and eyes to see, and hearts of flesh and not stone.</v>

01:53:21.040 --> 01:53:23.840
<v Speaker 2>That is what you need to hear when you hear the word</v>

01:53:24.080 --> 01:53:29.040
<v Speaker 2>repentance. And so, yes, it may seem like this episode was heavy</v>

01:53:29.040 --> 01:53:34.000
<v Speaker 2>on law, and perhaps accusations, and do this and don't do that.</v>

01:53:34.000 --> 01:53:37.440
<v Speaker 2>But it's because that is part of the Christian life, and that</v>

01:53:37.440 --> 01:53:41.360
<v Speaker 2>is a good thing, because this is how Christ is pulling us</v>

01:53:41.360 --> 01:53:45.920
<v Speaker 2>out of this sinful world, and preparing us for eternal life with</v>

01:53:45.920 --> 01:53:47.520
<v Speaker 2>him in paradise.</v>

01:53:47.520 --> 01:53:50.960
<v Speaker 2>And that is very good news.</v>