WEBVTT 00:00:37.120 --> 00:00:39.440 Welcome to the Stone Choir Podcast. 00:00:39.440 --> 00:00:40.480 I am Corey J. 00:00:40.480 --> 00:00:42.560 Mahler. And I'm Wo. 00:00:42.800 --> 00:00:46.080 Today's episode of Stone Choir is part two of our series on 00:00:46.080 --> 00:00:49.680 feminism. Last week we spent about a hundred minutes talking about the 00:00:49.680 --> 00:00:53.600 scriptural basis for what God what God says the purpose of a 00:00:53.600 --> 00:00:56.160 woman is in the world in creation. 00:00:56.160 --> 00:00:59.280 I mean we established as God established, we didn't. 00:00:59.280 --> 00:01:02.240 You know, it's a couple podcasters aren't writing any of these rules. 00:01:02.240 --> 00:01:06.320 God said that woman was made as a helper fit for man. 00:01:06.320 --> 00:01:11.680 And we established through the scriptural basis how that is consistent from 00:01:11.680 --> 00:01:15.680 before the fall through all of scripture, Old and New Testament. 00:01:15.680 --> 00:01:18.880 So today we're going to be talking about what has happened in 00:01:18.880 --> 00:01:23.120 the last few centuries in Christendom as we first begin to depart 00:01:23.120 --> 00:01:23.920 from that. 00:01:23.920 --> 00:01:26.720 Uh up front I want to mention that we are not really 00:01:26.720 --> 00:01:30.560 going to be talking about any other societies outside of Christian societies 00:01:31.440 --> 00:01:35.440 uh because a that's not really our problem and b if as 00:01:35.440 --> 00:01:39.360 you're listening along you think of counterexamples of oh well this other 00:01:39.360 --> 00:01:43.200 pagan society had feminism long before Christendom did. 00:01:43.200 --> 00:01:44.240 Yeah, exactly. 00:01:44.240 --> 00:01:45.120 Those are pagans. 00:01:45.120 --> 00:01:46.160 They're all burning in hell. 00:01:46.160 --> 00:01:47.760 They were feminists long before us. 00:01:47.760 --> 00:01:49.520 So thank you for making your point. 00:01:49.520 --> 00:01:52.400 Like that we we could do a ninety second episode here that 00:01:52.400 --> 00:01:53.680 just said, you know what? 00:01:53.680 --> 00:01:57.120 Feminism correlates to damned society. 00:01:57.120 --> 00:01:59.600 That's not really a good podcast, so we're gonna go over in 00:01:59.600 --> 00:02:03.760 detail what's played out really since the Enlightenment. 00:02:03.760 --> 00:02:09.280 So off to the races, we're gonna be talking about feminism as 00:02:09.280 --> 00:02:13.440 it really began its genesis in the Enlightenment in the West. 00:02:13.440 --> 00:02:16.720 And as we mentioned last week, really the reason for that is 00:02:16.720 --> 00:02:22.480 that every Christian society has understood what we said last week. 00:02:22.480 --> 00:02:28.000 Christian societies have always been based on God's rules and norm for 00:02:28.640 --> 00:02:30.240 human civilization. 00:02:30.240 --> 00:02:36.080 When nations were Christianized, whatever pattern they had for male-female relations before 00:02:36.080 --> 00:02:42.640 Christianity arrived, they all naturally adopted the headship principle. 00:02:42.640 --> 00:02:46.160 They adopted the premise that the man is the head of the 00:02:46.160 --> 00:02:49.920 household, that a woman is a helper fit for man, whether she 00:02:49.920 --> 00:02:52.640 is a daughter in the case of children, and then when she's 00:02:52.640 --> 00:02:56.320 married off, when she becomes one flesh with her husband, he becomes 00:02:56.320 --> 00:02:57.440 her head. 00:02:57.440 --> 00:02:59.760 This was codified in in European law. 00:02:59.760 --> 00:03:01.360 It was the norm and society. 00:03:01.360 --> 00:03:03.200 So it wasn't really much of an issue. 00:03:03.200 --> 00:03:08.960 Like these weren't points of of specific contention really until the Enlightenment. 00:03:09.280 --> 00:03:11.920 You know, it's probably in almost every episode the Enlightenment seems to 00:03:11.920 --> 00:03:12.640 come up. 00:03:12.640 --> 00:03:15.360 We'll do an episode here probably pretty soon talking about it. 00:03:15.360 --> 00:03:18.480 I think for us to do that proper treatment is going to 00:03:18.480 --> 00:03:20.560 take a little more research than some of these. 00:03:20.560 --> 00:03:21.920 So we haven't tackled it yet. 00:03:21.920 --> 00:03:23.760 Just for that reason, it's going to take some more work on 00:03:23.760 --> 00:03:25.920 our part up front. 00:03:25.920 --> 00:03:26.640 The enlightenment 00:03:27.600 --> 00:03:32.480 was a period of time in really in the 1700s in Europe 00:03:32.800 --> 00:03:33.120 when 00:03:34.400 --> 00:03:39.920 the notions of Christendom were set aside for the sake of science 00:03:39.920 --> 00:03:40.800 and reason. 00:03:41.040 --> 00:03:44.240 Uh let me just read you briefly something that was is from 00:03:44.240 --> 00:03:48.800 Wikipedia. I mentioned last week I highly recommend using Wikipedia for looking 00:03:48.800 --> 00:03:49.600 at these subjects. 00:03:49.600 --> 00:03:53.840 When you're looking at feminism or women's Liberation or the Enlightenment. 00:03:53.840 --> 00:03:56.880 Anyone who's writing for Wikipedia is a huge fan. 00:03:56.880 --> 00:04:01.200 So when we are criticizing and attacking some of these things, these 00:04:01.200 --> 00:04:04.080 are good sources because if you just take re you can find 00:04:04.080 --> 00:04:07.680 and replace in any article there, good for bad and you'll basically 00:04:07.680 --> 00:04:09.840 have a correct Christian opinion on the things. 00:04:09.840 --> 00:04:13.520 But because they're bragging about what they've accomplished, they're very thorough. 00:04:13.520 --> 00:04:15.600 In fact they're thorough to the point that they will try to 00:04:15.760 --> 00:04:18.640 to pull in things that have nothing to do with their agenda 00:04:18.720 --> 00:04:21.360 to try to say, oh yeah, this was this was this thing 00:04:21.440 --> 00:04:22.000 as well. 00:04:22.000 --> 00:04:26.000 So they can just basically co-opt all of Christian history into their 00:04:26.480 --> 00:04:28.160 own worldview. 00:04:28.160 --> 00:04:33.040 This is part of what Wikipedia says about the Enlightenment. 00:04:33.200 --> 00:04:37.600 Philosophers and scientists of the period widely circulated their ideas through meetings 00:04:37.600 --> 00:04:43.360 at scientific academies, Masonic lodges, literary salons, coffee houses, and in printed 00:04:43.440 --> 00:04:45.120 books, journals, and pamphlets. 00:04:45.120 --> 00:04:49.040 The ideas of the Enlightenment undermined the authority of the monarchy and 00:04:49.040 --> 00:04:52.880 the church, and paved the way for political revolutions in the eighteenth 00:04:52.880 --> 00:04:54.640 and nineteenth centuries. 00:04:54.640 --> 00:05:01.600 A variety of nineteenth century movements, including liberalism, communism, and neoclassicism, traced 00:05:01.600 --> 00:05:04.320 their intellectual heritage to the Enlightenment. 00:05:04.320 --> 00:05:09.120 The central doctrines of the Enlightenment were individual liberty and religious tolerance 00:05:09.360 --> 00:05:13.280 In opposition to an absolute monarchy in the fixed dogmas of the 00:05:13.280 --> 00:05:13.920 church. 00:05:14.800 --> 00:05:18.400 So basically a one-sentence summary of that is something that you will 00:05:18.560 --> 00:05:22.320 find popping up on really all any of these basic articles talking 00:05:22.320 --> 00:05:22.800 about it. 00:05:22.800 --> 00:05:25.920 And it's something that I think I remember almost verbatim from social 00:05:25.920 --> 00:05:28.160 studies as in grade school. 00:05:28.160 --> 00:05:32.720 The Enlightenment was the triumph of science and reason over faith and 00:05:32.720 --> 00:05:36.480 superstition. And I want that to be a central tenet that you 00:05:36.480 --> 00:05:40.080 keep in mind as you're listening to all this, because one, the 00:05:40.080 --> 00:05:44.000 Enlightenment is entirely a European thing. 00:05:44.000 --> 00:05:46.400 It occurred in Europe in Christendom. 00:05:46.400 --> 00:05:47.760 We're not talking about anywhere else. 00:05:47.760 --> 00:05:53.280 This was entirely within the sphere of the Christian dominion. 00:05:53.280 --> 00:05:56.240 That's important because the second part of that, it's the triumph of 00:05:56.240 --> 00:05:58.960 science and reason over faith and superstition. 00:05:58.960 --> 00:06:00.800 Those mean the same thing when they say them. 00:06:00.800 --> 00:06:05.360 Faith can only mean the Christian faith, and superstition just means principally 00:06:05.520 --> 00:06:08.000 the superstitions of the Christian faith. 00:06:08.000 --> 00:06:13.360 So the enlightenment all by itself, everything about it was principally man 00:06:13.360 --> 00:06:18.880 in his reason, overthrowing God in scripture that's been revealed to us, 00:06:18.880 --> 00:06:21.760 overthrowing monarchy, overthrowing the church. 00:06:21.760 --> 00:06:26.000 That those three things are always part and parcel of any discussion 00:06:26.000 --> 00:06:28.960 of of enlightenment, thinking and its influence. 00:06:28.960 --> 00:06:32.080 And that's important because that's why we did the episode on genealogy 00:06:32.240 --> 00:06:32.640 of ideas. 00:06:32.640 --> 00:06:35.120 We're going to talk about repeatedly in this episode. 00:06:35.120 --> 00:06:38.880 This is the genealogy of the ideas that many of you hold 00:06:38.880 --> 00:06:40.000 to be sacred. 00:06:40.000 --> 00:06:43.120 The idea that women are equal to men, the idea that the 00:06:43.120 --> 00:06:44.880 franchise should be universal. 00:06:44.880 --> 00:06:48.800 All of these things are new in Christendom as of the seventeen 00:06:48.800 --> 00:06:49.760 and eighteen hundreds. 00:06:49.760 --> 00:06:53.200 They weren't held previously and ta today they're sacrosanct. 00:06:53.200 --> 00:06:58.240 So we're contrasting Christianity with the Enlightenment because they're two competing religions. 00:06:58.240 --> 00:07:02.000 And I think that's that's important to carry throughout this entire conversation. 00:07:02.480 --> 00:07:02.720 And 00:07:02.720 --> 00:07:08.560 to emphasize the point of the genealogy of ideas, we were discussing 00:07:08.560 --> 00:07:10.880 before we started recording. 00:07:10.880 --> 00:07:16.640 A central symbol in Christianity, in scripture, that we really ignore, is 00:07:16.640 --> 00:07:19.680 the idea of a tree and its fruit. 00:07:19.680 --> 00:07:23.120 And a tree is known by its fruit. 00:07:23.120 --> 00:07:26.560 A good tree does not produce poisonous fruit. 00:07:26.560 --> 00:07:29.120 Poisonous fruit does not come from a good tree. 00:07:29.120 --> 00:07:32.800 A poisonous tree does not produce good fruit. 00:07:32.800 --> 00:07:36.240 And And Christians have just stopped paying attention to that. 00:07:36.480 --> 00:07:39.920 we read it, we go, yes, okay, and move on. 00:07:39.920 --> 00:07:43.680 We don't pay attention to what scripture is actually saying there. 00:07:43.680 --> 00:07:46.560 If you look at the fruit of something, and the fruit is 00:07:46.880 --> 00:07:51.120 wicked, the fruit is evil, the fruit is poisonous, that is telling 00:07:51.120 --> 00:07:54.960 you the thing itself is wicked, evil and poisonous. 00:07:54.960 --> 00:07:58.880 And jumping ahead a little bit really, but not in fullness, we'll 00:07:58.880 --> 00:08:01.040 go through this chronologically roughly. 00:08:01.040 --> 00:08:04.400 We're living in the results of what we're talking about here with 00:08:04.400 --> 00:08:09.280 first and second wave feminism, with the roots in the Enlightenment, protofeminism 00:08:09.360 --> 00:08:10.720 so called. 00:08:10.720 --> 00:08:13.280 We are living the fruit of that today and we can see 00:08:13.280 --> 00:08:15.600 the wickedness in our societies. 00:08:15.600 --> 00:08:18.480 We see it in abortion, we see it in so called sexual 00:08:18.480 --> 00:08:23.840 liberation, we see it in the growing support for prostitution, pornography. 00:08:24.080 --> 00:08:25.520 the list is endless. 00:08:26.560 --> 00:08:30.480 All of those things are the fruit of these ideas. 00:08:30.480 --> 00:08:33.200 And so as Christians, we have to look at this and say 00:08:33.280 --> 00:08:35.600 it's a poisonous tree. 00:08:35.600 --> 00:08:38.240 We cannot consume the fruit from this tree. 00:08:38.240 --> 00:08:42.800 We cannot believe the things that are said by those who hold 00:08:42.800 --> 00:08:46.320 to this ideology, this competing religion. 00:08:46.320 --> 00:08:50.320 And so it's not a matter of saying, well, I reject transition 00:08:50.480 --> 00:08:55.040 Transgenderism but I'm okay with all of the things that came before 00:08:55.040 --> 00:08:56.080 it leading up to it. 00:08:56.080 --> 00:08:59.600 No, because that is the inevitable result of all of the things 00:08:59.600 --> 00:09:03.440 leading up to it that we're going to discuss in this episode. 00:09:03.440 --> 00:09:07.360 And so, as Christians, we have to go all the way back 00:09:07.360 --> 00:09:08.480 to the source. 00:09:08.480 --> 00:09:12.480 We have to go back to the source of these ideas. 00:09:12.480 --> 00:09:13.680 What is the tree? 00:09:13.680 --> 00:09:15.440 Which tree bore this fruit? 00:09:15.440 --> 00:09:16.720 Does this come from Scripture? 00:09:16.720 --> 00:09:17.440 Does this come from God? 00:09:17.840 --> 00:09:20.880 Does this come from natural revelation? 00:09:20.880 --> 00:09:25.040 Because of course God is the author of two books, Scripture and 00:09:25.040 --> 00:09:28.480 Nature, the natural world creation, and we've pointed out before that 00:09:29.440 --> 00:09:33.360 when God himself appears and speaks in the book of Job, he 00:09:33.360 --> 00:09:37.360 doesn't appeal to his word he does it after a fashion, because 00:09:37.360 --> 00:09:42.320 of course he spoke creation into existence, but he appeals to creation 00:09:43.600 --> 00:09:45.040 he appeals to that as 00:09:46.320 --> 00:09:50.720 illustrating his glory, his might, his majesty. 00:09:50.720 --> 00:09:54.720 And so yes, we can look to the natural world for truth. 00:09:54.720 --> 00:09:58.080 There is truth there, yes, it's fallen and corrupt, but it there's 00:09:58.080 --> 00:10:01.120 still truth there because it is God's creature, it's God's creation, it 00:10:01.120 --> 00:10:04.640 is good because it comes from the ultimate good. 00:10:04.640 --> 00:10:06.720 And so we have to look at that source. 00:10:06.720 --> 00:10:09.680 Does it come from something that is from God or is it 00:10:09.680 --> 00:10:11.040 a corruption? 00:10:11.040 --> 00:10:14.080 Because of course Satan can't create anything new, but is it a 00:10:14.080 --> 00:10:18.400 corruption of God's good order and therefore a wicked tree bearing wicked 00:10:18.400 --> 00:10:23.440 fruit? And in the case of feminism, it does not matter which 00:10:23.440 --> 00:10:25.920 wave. That is the fundamental baseline here. 00:10:25.920 --> 00:10:29.200 It doesn't matter if it's first wave, second wave, third wave, or 00:10:29.200 --> 00:10:33.200 so-called fourth wave that is starting in the last decade or so. 00:10:33.680 --> 00:10:37.040 They are all wicked because they are all rebellion, they are all 00:10:37.040 --> 00:10:38.320 against God. 00:10:38.320 --> 00:10:41.360 They do not come from a good tree. 00:10:41.360 --> 00:10:44.000 They are wicked fruit from a wicked tree. 00:10:44.000 --> 00:10:47.520 And a fundamental truth that I want everyone to bear in mind 00:10:47.520 --> 00:10:48.000 when it comes to 00:10:49.200 --> 00:10:53.440 feminism was already mentioned in Wo's opening. 00:10:53.440 --> 00:10:57.760 Woman was made to be a helper for man. 00:10:57.760 --> 00:11:04.480 Anything that is against that core nature of woman is evil. 00:11:04.480 --> 00:11:09.280 And so feminism fundamentally seeks to make woman not a helper, but 00:11:09.280 --> 00:11:13.440 an equal and a competitor, at the very least, the the latter 00:11:13.440 --> 00:11:17.520 waves want to make woman above man, and really the first one 00:11:17.520 --> 00:11:22.560 did as well, but anything that makes woman a competitor instead of 00:11:22.560 --> 00:11:25.200 a helper is not from God. 00:11:25.200 --> 00:11:28.480 Because God made her to be a helper. 00:11:28.480 --> 00:11:32.400 And so we can see this wickedness, this wicked strain running through 00:11:32.400 --> 00:11:37.680 many different things, and all of the waves of feminism. 00:11:37.680 --> 00:11:42.320 If something is contrary to what God has ordained, to the nature 00:11:42.320 --> 00:11:45.920 of the thing as God intended it, as God made it, then 00:11:45.920 --> 00:11:48.880 that is wicked and Christians cannot support it. 00:11:48.880 --> 00:11:52.800 And so again, it does not matter which wave of feminism, and 00:11:52.800 --> 00:11:55.840 you will see even pastors making this argument. 00:11:55.840 --> 00:11:59.760 They'll say, well, third and fourth wave feminism are wicked, but first 00:11:59.760 --> 00:12:02.720 and second wave were fine, or maybe they'll say only first wave. 00:12:02.720 --> 00:12:03.600 That's not how it works. 00:12:04.800 --> 00:12:08.640 A little bit of poison is not good. 00:12:08.640 --> 00:12:11.520 A lot of poison is worse, of course, but you don't eat 00:12:11.520 --> 00:12:12.320 the poisonous fruit. 00:12:12.320 --> 00:12:14.880 You don't eat one bite, you don't eat the entire fruit. 00:12:14.880 --> 00:12:17.440 You avoid it, you avoid the poisonous tree. 00:12:17.920 --> 00:12:21.440 And as I I mentioned we were discussing a few things before 00:12:21.440 --> 00:12:23.680 we started recording. 00:12:23.680 --> 00:12:27.600 If you let Satan play in your yard, you're going to wake 00:12:27.600 --> 00:12:30.320 up the next day with him in bed with you That's how 00:12:30.320 --> 00:12:31.760 these things always go. 00:12:31.760 --> 00:12:33.440 They always get worse. 00:12:33.440 --> 00:12:36.000 And so you can't dip your foot in this pool and say, 00:12:36.000 --> 00:12:37.680 well, the first wave. 00:12:37.680 --> 00:12:39.760 No. It is all wicked. 00:12:39.760 --> 00:12:41.200 It should all be avoided by Christians. 00:12:41.200 --> 00:12:45.200 And that's why we're going through the history of this pointing out 00:12:45.680 --> 00:12:48.960 all of the signs that this is wicked fruit, that this is 00:12:48.960 --> 00:12:51.680 not from God, that this is from Satan. 00:12:51.680 --> 00:12:56.080 So I think a good place to begin the story of Western 00:12:56.080 --> 00:13:00.480 feminism is is as was mentioned in in the Wikipedia article about 00:13:00.480 --> 00:13:04.800 the Enlightenment, in the salons of France in the seventeenth and eighteenth 00:13:04.800 --> 00:13:08.400 century, in the coffee houses of England in the colonies around the 00:13:08.400 --> 00:13:09.760 same time. 00:13:09.760 --> 00:13:14.240 The salons in France were really one of the first times that 00:13:14.400 --> 00:13:19.920 women became a type of participant in public life, in matters of 00:13:19.920 --> 00:13:22.640 discourse and debate and discussion. 00:13:22.640 --> 00:13:26.640 And the salon was sort of the very smallest version and then 00:13:26.640 --> 00:13:29.200 the coffee houses were even more egalitarian than that. 00:13:29.200 --> 00:13:32.560 Basically what happened in the salons, the women acted as sort of 00:13:32.560 --> 00:13:34.400 governesses or moderators. 00:13:34.400 --> 00:13:36.720 They're basically they're kind of a stone police, like just to make 00:13:36.720 --> 00:13:37.280 sure that the discussion 00:13:38.240 --> 00:13:40.320 was polite, everyone followed the rules. 00:13:40.320 --> 00:13:42.880 It was basically the men who were doing the discussion. 00:13:42.880 --> 00:13:44.960 But the women were present, they were in the room, you know, 00:13:44.960 --> 00:13:47.360 they had maybe a little bit to say. 00:13:47.360 --> 00:13:50.080 It was it was the very smallest bite of the of the 00:13:50.080 --> 00:13:52.640 apple. And so by itself you look at that and think, well 00:13:52.720 --> 00:13:55.120 there's absolutely nothing wrong with that. 00:13:55.120 --> 00:13:57.760 I honestly don't know if I could disagree. 00:13:57.760 --> 00:14:01.760 In isolation, I don't know if I would shout that down, you 00:14:01.760 --> 00:14:05.120 know, without knowing anything that happened in subsequent centuries and say, no, 00:14:05.120 --> 00:14:07.280 stop, get the women out of the room, we can't do this. 00:14:07.280 --> 00:14:11.280 Like it just it doesn't look like there's a problem there. 00:14:11.280 --> 00:14:14.800 I think that what's illustrative is that it had never really happened 00:14:14.800 --> 00:14:19.840 before. It wasn't something that had occurred in Christian societies. 00:14:19.840 --> 00:14:22.560 You would have, you know, private discussions in homes and these were 00:14:22.560 --> 00:14:23.440 sort of bigger than that. 00:14:23.440 --> 00:14:26.000 I mean this yeah, the salon was fun fundamentally in a home, 00:14:26.320 --> 00:14:30.720 but it was really sort of a public gathering of of friends 00:14:30.880 --> 00:14:34.240 that became more and more important to how society ran. 00:14:34.240 --> 00:14:37.440 And then as that model was adopted kind of by the the 00:14:37.440 --> 00:14:42.240 English bo on both sides of the Atlantic, it became much more 00:14:42.400 --> 00:14:46.640 egalitarian, as I said, the there were men's only debating societies and 00:14:46.640 --> 00:14:49.040 coffee houses where only men were permitted to speak. 00:14:49.040 --> 00:14:51.520 There were some where there was completely mixed company and the women 00:14:51.520 --> 00:14:52.880 were equal participants. 00:14:53.040 --> 00:14:56.480 And then at some point it kind of actually became fractious and 00:14:56.480 --> 00:14:58.240 the men got tired of the women talking. 00:14:58.240 --> 00:15:01.760 And so women created their own coffee houses and their own societies 00:15:01.760 --> 00:15:05.840 to discuss these things among themselves about matters related to the public 00:15:05.840 --> 00:15:09.040 sphere. I think that's the important distinction here is that they weren't 00:15:08.960 --> 00:15:13.040 talking about the duties of a helper to a husband. 00:15:13.040 --> 00:15:15.600 They were talking about, you know, in the case of the slans 00:15:15.920 --> 00:15:19.440 literally a lot of it was books, it was poetry, it w 00:15:19.600 --> 00:15:23.840 it was it was strictly non-political and then it began to evolve 00:15:23.840 --> 00:15:25.200 into being more political. 00:15:25.200 --> 00:15:28.960 And in the US and in England it was much more strongly 00:15:28.960 --> 00:15:32.560 linked to things that had traditionally only been in the In the 00:15:32.560 --> 00:15:34.000 sphere of the man. 00:15:34.000 --> 00:15:37.200 And sphere is a a term that you'll find popping up to 00:15:37.200 --> 00:15:41.760 this day among feminists as something that they find despicable because the 00:15:41.920 --> 00:15:45.360 the claim that's been inserted back into history, and we'll get to 00:15:45.360 --> 00:15:48.320 some of the various points where that's made. 00:15:48.320 --> 00:15:52.240 Feminists will claim that it was men that created these artificial spheres 00:15:52.320 --> 00:15:54.720 where the woman is basically chained in the home. 00:15:54.720 --> 00:15:58.320 All she can do is cook and clean and make babies and 00:15:58.320 --> 00:16:00.720 she can't talk to anyone and that's her sphere. 00:16:00.720 --> 00:16:04.160 Yeah, it's more like being cauterized or like being a pearl that's 00:16:04.160 --> 00:16:07.040 sealed up and and kept separate from everything else. 00:16:07.040 --> 00:16:09.280 It's seen as a matter of subjugation. 00:16:09.280 --> 00:16:13.600 And so these departures from the spheres as they began to occur 00:16:13.600 --> 00:16:17.840 in these public places, again, on their face, I think even as 00:16:17.840 --> 00:16:21.040 a Christian, you wouldn't necessarily think ev even as a you know, 00:16:21.280 --> 00:16:26.160 as I'm sure many people think of us as hyperactive, hypersensitive Christians, 00:16:26.160 --> 00:16:28.480 I don't think I would necessarily look at that and think, oh 00:16:28.560 --> 00:16:30.080 man, this is really bad news. 00:16:30.080 --> 00:16:34.160 I think in rest retrospect, it becomes much clearer what was beginning 00:16:34.160 --> 00:16:38.320 in those places because again, it wasn't that a woman talking is 00:16:38.320 --> 00:16:39.920 inherently sinful. 00:16:40.080 --> 00:16:43.840 We're not talking about church where God forbids women to speak. 00:16:43.840 --> 00:16:45.760 If she has a question, she can go home and ask her 00:16:45.760 --> 00:16:48.960 husband. We're talking about civil society. 00:16:48.960 --> 00:16:52.240 So God didn't explicitly say don't do this. 00:16:52.240 --> 00:16:54.880 It just typically wasn't done in Christian society. 00:16:54.880 --> 00:16:58.240 And I think in retrospect we can maybe question why that is, 00:16:58.240 --> 00:17:00.480 you know, I don't know why the sent fence is here. 00:17:00.480 --> 00:17:01.600 I'm just gonna tear it down. 00:17:01.600 --> 00:17:02.880 That's basically what happened. 00:17:03.120 --> 00:17:07.760 we demolished Chesterton's fence and then we got the results. 00:17:07.760 --> 00:17:11.360 But as we look downstream from those first events, we can see 00:17:11.360 --> 00:17:17.120 that as women began to engage in civic life and public life. 00:17:17.120 --> 00:17:18.400 They didn't have opinions. 00:17:18.400 --> 00:17:19.280 They had ideas. 00:17:19.280 --> 00:17:21.600 They had things that they wanted to get done. 00:17:21.600 --> 00:17:24.640 And increasingly it became visible to them that they disagreed with their 00:17:24.640 --> 00:17:28.880 husbands. I think that's when we really became we got off to 00:17:28.880 --> 00:17:32.240 the races on the feminist thrust that has led us to the 00:17:32.240 --> 00:17:33.600 point that we're at today. 00:17:33.920 --> 00:17:34.080 You 00:17:34.080 --> 00:17:38.240 made an important point there that if something has never been done 00:17:38.240 --> 00:17:45.280 before in Christendom and suddenly someone brings in this novel idea. 00:17:45.280 --> 00:17:49.360 We don't necessarily have to reject it out of hand, but we 00:17:49.360 --> 00:17:51.440 do have to be skeptical. 00:17:51.440 --> 00:17:55.520 Why is this thing that none of our Christian ancestors has ever 00:17:55.520 --> 00:17:59.920 done, that has never been part of Christendom, that has never been 00:17:59.920 --> 00:18:05.120 accepted in Christian society, why is it all of a sudden a 00:18:05.120 --> 00:18:08.640 thing? Why is this now being pushed? 00:18:08.640 --> 00:18:12.400 And of course, in this case, with the advantage of the vantage 00:18:12.400 --> 00:18:16.400 point of centuries of development, well we know why. 00:18:16.400 --> 00:18:21.840 But if you have that initial skepticism of things like this, you 00:18:21.840 --> 00:18:25.200 may avoid the problem down the line. 00:18:25.200 --> 00:18:30.880 Because Satan's plans span decades, centuries, generations. 00:18:30.880 --> 00:18:34.880 And so something that he has planned for your great great great 00:18:34.880 --> 00:18:39.760 grandchildren? Well the beginning of that may not look bad to you. 00:18:39.760 --> 00:18:43.440 Well women are just joining us in the coffee house to discuss 00:18:43.440 --> 00:18:48.960 politics. Now Now of course, to a Christian that actually probably should 00:18:48.960 --> 00:18:52.960 look bad because of the subject being discussed. 00:18:52.960 --> 00:18:59.680 Because fundamentally, Christianity and nature as well teaches that the woman's space 00:18:59.680 --> 00:19:01.840 is in the home. 00:19:01.840 --> 00:19:03.360 That is her world. 00:19:03.360 --> 00:19:05.680 Her world is the private world. 00:19:05.680 --> 00:19:08.480 It is the maintenance of the home, the teaching of children, the 00:19:08.480 --> 00:19:15.200 rearing of children, etc, those things, that is the woman's sphere. 00:19:15.200 --> 00:19:17.520 The man's sphere is the public sphere. 00:19:17.520 --> 00:19:22.400 Not all men, of course, because if you are a woodworker and 00:19:22.400 --> 00:19:24.960 you spend all of your time in your shop and you don't 00:19:24.880 --> 00:19:27.360 involve yourself in politics whatsoever. 00:19:27.360 --> 00:19:29.680 As a man that is typically fine. 00:19:29.680 --> 00:19:32.880 Yes, there are times where you may have to have some voice 00:19:32.880 --> 00:19:37.280 and things speak up, but for men there are as well different 00:19:37.280 --> 00:19:39.520 spheres. But the public sphere itself 00:19:40.400 --> 00:19:44.480 is solely the sphere for men. 00:19:44.480 --> 00:19:48.000 It is something only men should in which only men should be 00:19:48.000 --> 00:19:52.560 engaged. Politics is a man's pursuit. 00:19:52.560 --> 00:19:58.160 And so we see, even here in proto-feminism, and then leading into 00:19:58.160 --> 00:20:03.520 first wave, it naturally leads into first wave, because in proto-feminism, you 00:20:03.520 --> 00:20:09.040 have this push for women to discuss things like politics and economics 00:20:09.360 --> 00:20:11.360 and political philosophy. 00:20:11.360 --> 00:20:14.160 I wouldn't say I wouldn't go so far as to say that 00:20:14.160 --> 00:20:17.760 all discussion of philosophy and things like that are wrong for women. 00:20:17.760 --> 00:20:18.560 That's not true. 00:20:18.560 --> 00:20:21.760 We don't hold that position because of course some parts of the 00:20:21.760 --> 00:20:24.480 Christian faith are philosophy. 00:20:24.480 --> 00:20:28.400 They touch on philosophy, as it used to be taught and held 00:20:28.400 --> 00:20:32.160 in our universities when they were still Christian, theology is the queen 00:20:32.160 --> 00:20:34.160 of the liberal arts. 00:20:34.160 --> 00:20:37.600 It is the highest form of philosophy. 00:20:37.600 --> 00:20:41.840 And so these are still issues that women can, of course, discuss 00:20:42.240 --> 00:20:45.520 With their husbands at home as they are supposed to. 00:20:45.520 --> 00:20:48.240 That is the right ordering of things. 00:20:48.240 --> 00:20:51.760 Because the woman has a head and she should discuss these things 00:20:51.760 --> 00:20:53.360 with her head. 00:20:53.360 --> 00:20:56.560 But you see the the lead-in from discussing the issues in the 00:20:56.880 --> 00:21:01.840 salon and the coffee house right into first wave feminism. 00:21:01.840 --> 00:21:06.240 And first wave feminism is of course the agitation for so called 00:21:06.240 --> 00:21:07.600 political rights. 00:21:07.600 --> 00:21:07.920 And of 00:21:07.920 --> 00:21:12.800 course, those political rights themselves were the fruit of the Enlightenment. 00:21:12.800 --> 00:21:15.120 One of the first major 00:21:16.800 --> 00:21:22.160 concomitant with and sort of downstream from the Enlightenment was the American 00:21:22.160 --> 00:21:22.560 Revolution. 00:21:23.520 --> 00:21:27.440 Uh we all know, probably virtually everyone has memorized the the opening 00:21:27.440 --> 00:21:30.880 lines to the Declaration of Independence, which is one of the most 00:21:30.880 --> 00:21:33.680 obscene lies ever told in the English language. 00:21:34.000 --> 00:21:38.400 We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created 00:21:38.400 --> 00:21:43.200 equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain inalienable rights, 00:21:43.200 --> 00:21:47.280 that among these are life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. 00:21:48.080 --> 00:21:51.840 Those words are a spell that has been cast on the heart 00:21:51.840 --> 00:21:55.200 and mind of every American who's been born since or who was 00:21:55.200 --> 00:21:56.720 alive at that time. 00:21:56.720 --> 00:21:59.120 Because instantly that became true. 00:21:59.120 --> 00:22:02.000 It describes itself as this is true, this we hold these truths 00:22:02.080 --> 00:22:03.680 to be self evident. 00:22:03.680 --> 00:22:06.160 In other words, it's unthinkable not to think the thing that we 00:22:06.160 --> 00:22:09.200 just said, and then here's a list of them life, liberty, the 00:22:09.200 --> 00:22:10.560 pursuit of happiness. 00:22:10.560 --> 00:22:15.200 Now the reason that that was the kickoff for feminism in this 00:22:15.200 --> 00:22:20.000 country is that there was the inherent irony in what happened in 00:22:20.000 --> 00:22:22.800 the in the war for independence, which was a revolution. 00:22:22.800 --> 00:22:26.080 You know, that's the war for independence is how we couch it 00:22:26.080 --> 00:22:29.840 here. It was a revolt against the right rightful king of this 00:22:29.840 --> 00:22:33.600 colony. And we'll get into some of the other revolutions that followed. 00:22:33.600 --> 00:22:36.960 I think that there's some structural difference between a colony thousands of 00:22:36.960 --> 00:22:40.720 miles away rebelling against its motherland and 00:22:41.920 --> 00:22:45.760 A country trying to overthrow its own own king on its own 00:22:45.760 --> 00:22:50.560 soil, but fundamentally, as a matter of morality, it's difficult to justify 00:22:50.800 --> 00:22:54.960 what is functionally regicide, which was was what was going on. 00:22:54.960 --> 00:22:58.880 They were overthrowing the king, anointing themselves as their new lords and 00:22:58.880 --> 00:23:05.360 masters. The irony of what happened immediately thereafter is that we had 00:23:06.000 --> 00:23:10.960 predominantly English, it was all basically all northern European people in this 00:23:10.960 --> 00:23:15.920 country, plus some Africans who had been imported against their will as 00:23:15.920 --> 00:23:17.680 slaves into the South. 00:23:17.680 --> 00:23:22.480 When we said all men are created equal, and then we you 00:23:22.480 --> 00:23:25.600 know we had the three fifths compromise, which said, Oh well not 00:23:25.600 --> 00:23:28.560 you. You know, Africans were not permitted to vote. 00:23:28.800 --> 00:23:33.360 they were not full citizens, they were counted as partial men for 00:23:33.360 --> 00:23:37.680 the purpose of apportionment of representation because the South wanted that. 00:23:37.680 --> 00:23:41.040 That was a political compromise in favor of the South to say, 00:23:41.040 --> 00:23:44.160 yeah, you have these Africans, so we'll we'll count them as three 00:23:44.240 --> 00:23:47.440 fifths for the purpose of giving you representation in Congress. 00:23:47.440 --> 00:23:50.400 After the war between the states, well and leading up to the 00:23:50.400 --> 00:23:54.880 war between the states, we also have the genesis of feminism, because 00:23:55.040 --> 00:23:59.520 in the aftermath of the American Revolution and in the aftermath of 00:23:59.520 --> 00:24:04.560 that spell of the Declaration of Independence being cast, everyone starts believing 00:24:04.560 --> 00:24:06.960 it, saying all men are created equal. 00:24:06.960 --> 00:24:09.440 And some are saying, well, what about these Africans? 00:24:09.440 --> 00:24:10.000 Are they men? 00:24:10.480 --> 00:24:11.600 Aren't they created equal? 00:24:11.600 --> 00:24:13.360 And if so, why are they slaves? 00:24:13.360 --> 00:24:16.880 And then you have the women saying, Well, our d when it 00:24:16.880 --> 00:24:19.040 says all men, does it mean all mankind? 00:24:19.040 --> 00:24:20.480 Because we're part of mankind. 00:24:20.480 --> 00:24:21.440 Why aren't we equal? 00:24:21.440 --> 00:24:23.360 Well, why don't we have representation too? 00:24:23.360 --> 00:24:26.880 And that's why the salons and the coffee houses mattered because as 00:24:26.880 --> 00:24:32.320 women became participants in public life and in these political matters, they 00:24:32.320 --> 00:24:36.080 suddenly realized that maybe they didn't agree with their husbands and they 00:24:36.080 --> 00:24:37.760 wanted to be heard too. 00:24:37.760 --> 00:24:38.320 And so 00:24:39.840 --> 00:24:44.720 the genesis of feminism in this country was fundamentally one of the 00:24:44.720 --> 00:24:51.600 simultaneous rise of a desire for abolition of slavery and liberation of 00:24:51.600 --> 00:24:55.520 women. Those two throughout all of American history have always gone hand 00:24:55.520 --> 00:24:56.080 in hand. 00:24:56.080 --> 00:24:59.440 In first, second, and third wave feminism, they all happen at the 00:24:59.440 --> 00:24:59.840 same time. 00:24:59.840 --> 00:25:02.880 And the feminists themselves say this this, they will say that the 00:25:02.880 --> 00:25:04.880 two are inexorably linked. 00:25:04.880 --> 00:25:07.840 And they're called waves, but really they're just generations. 00:25:07.840 --> 00:25:10.400 You have a fit and a start and you have this spurt 00:25:10.400 --> 00:25:13.440 of energy and they move the ball down the field. 00:25:13.440 --> 00:25:16.240 And then it sort of died out for a generation or so, 00:25:16.240 --> 00:25:21.200 and then a subsequent generation came along and revolted again. 00:25:21.200 --> 00:25:25.040 And so in first wave feminism, one of the first voices that 00:25:25.040 --> 00:25:27.520 I turned up that I found kind of interesting was a man 00:25:27.520 --> 00:25:29.680 named John Neal, N E A L. 00:25:29.680 --> 00:25:31.760 He has quite the Wikipedia article himself. 00:25:31.760 --> 00:25:34.160 He was he was a very impressive man on paper. 00:25:34.160 --> 00:25:37.200 I I find his face to be pretty punchable and I I 00:25:37.200 --> 00:25:40.800 disagree with virtually everything he said or did, but you can't fault 00:25:40.800 --> 00:25:42.000 the guy for being lazy. 00:25:42.000 --> 00:25:46.000 Uh it he was v he was incredibly prolific in his life. 00:25:46.000 --> 00:25:48.560 And one of the things that he devoted most of the nineteenth 00:25:48.560 --> 00:25:53.040 century to doing was fighting for the quote intellectual equality between men 00:25:53.040 --> 00:25:53.680 and women. 00:25:53.680 --> 00:25:59.360 He fought coverture, he demanded suffrage, equal pay, better education, and working 00:25:59.360 --> 00:26:00.640 conditions for women. 00:26:00.640 --> 00:26:05.280 Now working conditions for women is is hilarious because how would women 00:26:05.280 --> 00:26:08.080 have bad working conditions if they're in the home? 00:26:08.080 --> 00:26:12.560 You see, already s feminism, as it begins to encroach, is creating 00:26:12.560 --> 00:26:15.200 the very problems that it's then trying to solve. 00:26:15.200 --> 00:26:18.720 You know, we talked today about we know about sweatshops and about 00:26:18.720 --> 00:26:22.080 and about horrible working conditions in the industrial revolution. 00:26:22.080 --> 00:26:23.840 That's principally what he was fighting. 00:26:23.840 --> 00:26:24.560 What was that? 00:26:24.560 --> 00:26:27.520 That was women working outside the home in horrible conditions. 00:26:27.520 --> 00:26:29.360 Yeah, they were it was awful. 00:26:29.360 --> 00:26:32.640 They w they were they were working incredibly long hours in dangerous, 00:26:32.640 --> 00:26:34.560 miserable conditions. 00:26:34.560 --> 00:26:38.080 His solution was well we need to get them better working conditions. 00:26:38.080 --> 00:26:41.200 I think the Christian solution would be to say they shouldn't have 00:26:41.200 --> 00:26:43.040 left their home in the first place. 00:26:43.040 --> 00:26:45.520 And so even at the very beginning, before any of this is 00:26:45.520 --> 00:26:50.400 really taken off, we already see the machine of feminism as creating 00:26:50.400 --> 00:26:53.520 one problem and then using itself as the solution to its own 00:26:53.520 --> 00:26:57.200 problems. And that's a pattern that gets repeated throughout the history of 00:26:57.200 --> 00:26:58.000 this thing. 00:26:58.000 --> 00:27:01.760 And that is one of the the strings of irony that runs 00:27:01.760 --> 00:27:05.760 through all of this of course, is that feminism has never once 00:27:05.760 --> 00:27:07.840 made women better off. 00:27:07.840 --> 00:27:10.880 It has always made life worse for women. 00:27:11.520 --> 00:27:17.040 And some women today are starting to realize that, recognizing that they 00:27:17.040 --> 00:27:20.960 would actually rather be at home with their children caring for the 00:27:20.960 --> 00:27:26.080 home, instead of working for some corporation that cares not at all 00:27:26.080 --> 00:27:32.400 about them, paying them some minuscule wage and will terminate them for 00:27:32.400 --> 00:27:34.720 whatever reason it feels like. 00:27:34.720 --> 00:27:37.680 Feminism is not a good deal for women. 00:27:37.680 --> 00:27:41.280 It's not a good deal for men either, because it turns the 00:27:41.280 --> 00:27:47.680 helper God created for man into a competitor and creates animosity between 00:27:47.680 --> 00:27:49.200 men and women instead of 00:27:50.400 --> 00:27:53.280 What men and women are supposed to feel for one another, which 00:27:53.280 --> 00:27:57.680 is mutual respect and love for one another, supposed to have marriages 00:27:57.920 --> 00:27:58.880 form out of that. 00:27:58.880 --> 00:28:02.560 There's a reason we see the marriage rate collapsing, and it is 00:28:02.560 --> 00:28:06.480 in large part due to feminism which creates that animosity on the 00:28:06.480 --> 00:28:10.560 part of women toward men, and then men react to that animosity 00:28:10.560 --> 00:28:13.520 by not wanting to deal with women. 00:28:13.520 --> 00:28:16.720 It breaks down the family, it breaks down everything fundamentally. 00:28:17.920 --> 00:28:18.240 But 00:28:19.760 --> 00:28:23.200 here at the beginning, even initially, we see that one of the 00:28:23.200 --> 00:28:26.720 goals is to get women into the workforce because of course this 00:28:26.720 --> 00:28:31.440 is just serving another of the idols of the Enlightenment and capitalism, 00:28:31.440 --> 00:28:34.960 the things that flow from it, and that of course is Mammon. 00:28:34.960 --> 00:28:36.240 Because if you have 00:28:37.200 --> 00:28:42.720 basically double the workforce, yes you are going to increase overall productivity 00:28:42.880 --> 00:28:47.520 Productivity. But everyone is going to live a worse life, except of 00:28:47.520 --> 00:28:51.120 course those at the top who are benefiting from the increase in 00:28:51.120 --> 00:28:55.920 productivity. Because as anyone who's studied any of Any economics knows, well 00:28:56.000 --> 00:29:00.960 what happens when you increase massively the supply? 00:29:00.960 --> 00:29:06.320 Well, the price of the thing is going to drop. 00:29:06.320 --> 00:29:10.480 And so what happens when you take the workforce and double it? 00:29:10.480 --> 00:29:15.120 Well, now you have significantly lower wages, which has been one of 00:29:15.120 --> 00:29:20.400 the long-term consequences of feminism is lower wages for workers. 00:29:20.560 --> 00:29:25.120 And so now instead of being able to survive off of one 00:29:25.360 --> 00:29:30.080 income for a family of however many children you happen to have, 00:29:30.080 --> 00:29:33.600 well now you have to have both parents working. 00:29:33.600 --> 00:29:36.240 The man and the woman both have to work in order to 00:29:36.240 --> 00:29:41.440 meet just the basic needs of the family because of feminism. 00:29:41.440 --> 00:29:42.560 Feminism 00:29:43.440 --> 00:29:46.640 demanded that women be allowed into the workplace and then made it 00:29:46.640 --> 00:29:46.880 absolutely 00:29:47.760 --> 00:29:51.680 necessary for women to be in the workplace in order to survive 00:29:51.680 --> 00:29:54.560 in the world feminism created. 00:29:54.560 --> 00:29:59.120 So as mentioned, it created a problem and then offered a supposed 00:29:59.120 --> 00:30:03.120 solution. Of course it isn't any solution at all because now there 00:30:03.120 --> 00:30:04.560 is no buffer. 00:30:04.560 --> 00:30:08.400 There's no you know, if the husband is injured, the wife can't 00:30:08.400 --> 00:30:11.040 go out and work a little bit, which used to be the 00:30:11.040 --> 00:30:13.200 case, that uh often happened. 00:30:13.200 --> 00:30:15.920 Now we could discuss whether or not society should have some sort 00:30:15.920 --> 00:30:18.400 of safety net to deal with that instead of forcing women to 00:30:18.400 --> 00:30:21.520 go out of the home and work, but that's a separate issue. 00:30:21.520 --> 00:30:26.480 The issue here is that feminism destroyed that buffer and made it 00:30:26.480 --> 00:30:30.800 so that most people now live inches from abject poverty. 00:30:30.800 --> 00:30:34.720 That is a long-term consequence of feminism to go back again to 00:30:34.720 --> 00:30:36.880 the idea of bad fruit. 00:30:36.880 --> 00:30:42.080 We see here the evil, wicked, poisonous fruit of feminism in society. 00:30:42.080 --> 00:30:45.280 It's not a good tree, because a good tree does not bear 00:30:45.280 --> 00:30:46.560 bad fruit. 00:30:46.960 --> 00:30:51.360 As we mentioned last week, one of the legal principles that was 00:30:51.440 --> 00:30:55.920 overthrown over a century or so of feminism was that of coverture. 00:30:55.920 --> 00:30:59.040 I want to read now what the English women's property rights were. 00:30:59.040 --> 00:31:01.280 This is the English common law description. 00:31:01.440 --> 00:31:04.480 It was basically what was in effect on this side of the 00:31:04.800 --> 00:31:06.560 Atlantic as well. 00:31:06.560 --> 00:31:09.280 English common law defined the role of the wife as a femme 00:31:09.440 --> 00:31:14.080 covert, emphasizing her subordination to her husband in putting her under the 00:31:14.160 --> 00:31:19.280 quote protection and influence of her husband, her baron, or her lord. 00:31:19.280 --> 00:31:23.520 Upon marriage, the husband and wife became one person under the law, 00:31:23.520 --> 00:31:26.640 as the property of the wife was surrendered to her husband, and 00:31:26.640 --> 00:31:30.320 her status as a separate legal personality with the ability to own 00:31:30.320 --> 00:31:33.520 property and sue and be sued solely in her own name ceased 00:31:33.520 --> 00:31:33.920 to exist. 00:31:34.880 --> 00:31:39.360 Any personal property acquired by the wife during the marriage, unless specified 00:31:39.360 --> 00:31:42.720 that it was for her own separate use, went automatically to her 00:31:42.720 --> 00:31:47.040 husband. If a woman writer had a copyright before marriage, the copyright 00:31:47.040 --> 00:31:49.600 would pass to the husband afterwards, for instance. 00:31:49.600 --> 00:31:52.960 Further, a married woman was unable to draft a will or dispose 00:31:52.960 --> 00:31:56.080 of any property without her husband's consent. 00:31:56.080 --> 00:31:58.960 Now today that sounds kinda terrible. 00:31:58.960 --> 00:32:04.960 It sounds it sounds diminutive, it sounds oppressive, but when viewed in 00:32:04.960 --> 00:32:08.960 the context of two becoming one flesh and the man being the 00:32:08.960 --> 00:32:14.160 head of the woman, that's basically a legal recognition of the order 00:32:14.160 --> 00:32:16.400 that God ordained. 00:32:16.400 --> 00:32:20.320 And I think that that's important because again, as we're looking at 00:32:20.320 --> 00:32:24.000 these issues, you know, we're quarterway through the 21st century now. 00:32:24.000 --> 00:32:25.040 We're looking back through centuries 00:32:26.080 --> 00:32:28.320 of post Enlightenment thought. 00:32:28.320 --> 00:32:31.760 And so when we read and hear these things, they sound awful. 00:32:31.760 --> 00:32:35.920 They sound just alien and obscene and hateful. 00:32:36.160 --> 00:32:40.640 If you look at them from that day, what were they trying 00:32:40.640 --> 00:32:41.200 to do? 00:32:41.200 --> 00:32:44.240 They were trying to solve the problem of headship. 00:32:44.240 --> 00:32:46.880 What is how does the law, how does the left hand of 00:32:46.880 --> 00:32:52.400 Christ's kingdom deal with the created order that God has ordained. 00:32:52.400 --> 00:32:56.000 This was the solution under English common law to deal with that. 00:32:56.000 --> 00:32:59.280 And I I think it's kinda hard to find fall with it 00:32:59.280 --> 00:33:05.040 theologically. There were obviously some practical problems that sometimes cropped up. 00:33:05.040 --> 00:33:08.000 And one of the recurring themes that we'll find in this episode 00:33:08.000 --> 00:33:13.840 is that when you have things like abusive slave masters or abusive 00:33:13.840 --> 00:33:20.400 husbands, the solution of the revolutionary is to overthrow the institution that 00:33:20.400 --> 00:33:22.800 they see as embodying the abuse. 00:33:22.800 --> 00:33:27.200 Whereas the Christian approach, as we described in last week's episode about 00:33:27.200 --> 00:33:32.240 scripture on feminism and the week previous on slavery in scripture, the 00:33:32.240 --> 00:33:37.200 Christian solution, the scriptural solution from God is not revolution, it's not 00:33:37.200 --> 00:33:42.480 overthrowing that headship, it is making the head accountable to God, in 00:33:42.480 --> 00:33:47.680 some cases through the state, for being faithful, for being obedient to 00:33:47.680 --> 00:33:50.640 God, because masters also have a master in heaven. 00:33:50.640 --> 00:33:54.960 So if a master is cruelly and unjustly beating his slaves, the 00:33:54.960 --> 00:34:00.160 solution from a Christian perspective is not abolish slavery, it's the state 00:34:00.160 --> 00:34:04.400 should intervene so that that man stops abusing his property, because although 00:34:04.400 --> 00:34:07.840 the slaves are property, they're also human beings, and they also may 00:34:07.840 --> 00:34:09.440 have protection under the law. 00:34:09.440 --> 00:34:14.320 That's entirely appropriate as a Christian for the Christian prince to intervene 00:34:14.320 --> 00:34:18.000 in the case of a faithless master or a faithless husband. 00:34:18.000 --> 00:34:24.080 So see, feminism sees through the Marxist lens of power dynamics we 00:34:24.080 --> 00:34:27.760 have oppressor and oppressee and we need to overthrow the class of 00:34:27.760 --> 00:34:29.280 the oppressor. 00:34:29.280 --> 00:34:32.000 The scriptural approach as we've talked about in the last couple weeks 00:34:32.080 --> 00:34:35.440 is simply if someone is being cruel, if someone is doing something 00:34:35.440 --> 00:34:37.200 ungodly, he should stop doing it. 00:34:37.200 --> 00:34:40.400 If he's a Christian, and whether or not he's a Christian, the 00:34:40.400 --> 00:34:43.520 godly prince has a right and a duty to intervene to prevent 00:34:43.520 --> 00:34:44.320 that evil from happening 00:34:45.200 --> 00:34:48.480 because evil sin should be illegal. 00:34:48.480 --> 00:34:51.360 You know, that's that's one of the problems we're having today as 00:34:51.360 --> 00:34:55.920 we're beginning to discuss Christian nationalism in a wider sphere is 00:34:57.440 --> 00:35:00.800 where do you draw the line between that which is sinful and 00:35:00.800 --> 00:35:02.320 that which is illegal? 00:35:02.320 --> 00:35:05.200 And maybe there are some cases where things that are sin should 00:35:05.200 --> 00:35:08.400 not be against the law under the civil law. 00:35:08.400 --> 00:35:11.680 However, they're not two separate questions. 00:35:11.680 --> 00:35:15.040 There's a reason that for thousands of years the civil law was 00:35:15.040 --> 00:35:19.840 lined up pretty much directly with what God has said the law 00:35:19.840 --> 00:35:20.640 should be. 00:35:20.640 --> 00:35:24.240 And that wasn't just that's not theonomy. 00:35:24.240 --> 00:35:24.640 That's not 00:35:25.520 --> 00:35:30.400 that's not God being the direct overseer of a country. 00:35:30.400 --> 00:35:35.360 That's simply Christians in their spheres, in their vocations, obeying God. 00:35:35.360 --> 00:35:38.000 And if God says do something, we should do it. 00:35:38.000 --> 00:35:40.000 And if you're a godly prince, you should do it. 00:35:40.000 --> 00:35:42.960 If you're a godly master or godly husband, you should do it. 00:35:42.960 --> 00:35:46.480 And if you don't, someone should intervene to prevent that. 00:35:46.480 --> 00:35:49.120 Except in the case of a godly prince, there's you know there's 00:35:49.040 --> 00:35:52.560 no one over a king except God, so that means he has 00:35:52.560 --> 00:35:56.000 the greatest answer for if if he sins against his people, but 00:35:56.000 --> 00:35:57.840 ultimately they are his people. 00:35:57.840 --> 00:36:01.520 And when I mentioned the quote there, protection and influence of her 00:36:01.520 --> 00:36:04.400 husband, her baron, or her lord. 00:36:04.400 --> 00:36:08.400 I think that's important because it it recognized that a woman always 00:36:08.400 --> 00:36:09.360 had a head. 00:36:09.360 --> 00:36:13.840 It's something that we lost in the revolutionary fervor of the Enlightenment 00:36:13.840 --> 00:36:17.440 in the Americas is that we ceased to have barons and lords. 00:36:17.440 --> 00:36:20.720 I'm not necessarily bring back that sort of class system, but I 00:36:20.720 --> 00:36:24.640 think it's important to recognize that when we when we declared no 00:36:24.640 --> 00:36:30.080 gods, no masters in 1775 and 76, when we said we will 00:36:30.080 --> 00:36:34.560 not have a king, we will not have anyone over us, it 00:36:34.560 --> 00:36:38.640 fundamentally changed the hierarchy that God has had established. 00:36:38.640 --> 00:36:43.120 Because suddenly when we became a democratic republic, we were choosing our 00:36:43.360 --> 00:36:46.880 own masters, our own rulers, and saying, Well, you can't really rule. 00:36:46.880 --> 00:36:49.760 You have very limited things where you can do and we're gonna 00:36:49.760 --> 00:36:51.920 decide what you can do to us or not. 00:36:51.920 --> 00:36:54.720 And there can be discussion around where the lines are there, but 00:36:54.720 --> 00:36:55.600 I think it's important that 00:36:56.720 --> 00:37:00.800 when you eliminate the notion of subject, it really erases a lot 00:37:00.800 --> 00:37:01.680 of these distinctions. 00:37:01.680 --> 00:37:05.920 Because again, in England, the woman was a subject of their king, 00:37:05.920 --> 00:37:08.240 and she became a subject of her husband. 00:37:08.240 --> 00:37:11.600 But even without a husband, she was still subject to the king. 00:37:11.600 --> 00:37:15.680 And so when we hear subjugation we think, oh no, it's evil. 00:37:15.680 --> 00:37:17.600 No, there's someone over you. 00:37:17.600 --> 00:37:19.440 There's always someone over you. 00:37:19.440 --> 00:37:22.960 As we said last week, all of these things, the fight for 00:37:22.960 --> 00:37:28.160 feminism, the fight against slavery is always fundamentally about knocking out that 00:37:28.160 --> 00:37:31.360 middle portion between the man and God. 00:37:31.360 --> 00:37:33.680 Because we are not ruled directly by God. 00:37:33.680 --> 00:37:38.800 We are ruled through intermediaries, through fathers, through husbands, through godly princes. 00:37:38.800 --> 00:37:40.560 That order is God's order. 00:37:40.560 --> 00:37:43.600 And so what these things do on their face is not to 00:37:43.600 --> 00:37:46.560 say we want to overthrow God, although in private they will say 00:37:46.560 --> 00:37:49.200 that. But in public what they say is we just want to 00:37:49.200 --> 00:37:50.800 knock out this middle support. 00:37:50.800 --> 00:37:52.480 I don't need to have a man over me. 00:37:52.480 --> 00:37:53.680 I don't need to have a master. 00:37:53.680 --> 00:37:55.040 I don't need to have a husband. 00:37:55.040 --> 00:37:56.480 I can do it myself. 00:37:56.480 --> 00:37:59.280 And what that does is it eliminates God from the chain, and 00:37:59.280 --> 00:38:01.680 you do become your own God and your own master. 00:38:01.680 --> 00:38:04.960 And again, we're living in the aftermath of those results. 00:38:04.960 --> 00:38:07.200 Some of them do go so far as to say they want 00:38:07.200 --> 00:38:10.320 to overthrow God even in public. 00:38:10.320 --> 00:38:16.160 But I think you touched on an important truth there's a Christian 00:38:16.160 --> 00:38:21.840 solution and there's an atheist or satanic solution to basically everything, and 00:38:21.840 --> 00:38:23.200 they follow a pattern. 00:38:23.200 --> 00:38:28.320 The Christian solution is to get to put it in two words, 00:38:28.320 --> 00:38:31.200 reform and regulation. 00:38:31.200 --> 00:38:36.960 The atheist or satanic, the Marxist solution, these are all equivalent terms, 00:38:36.960 --> 00:38:41.440 is basically abolition, and it's always abolition. 00:38:41.440 --> 00:38:45.200 The solution to a handful of slave masters abusing their slaves. 00:38:45.200 --> 00:38:47.200 Oh, we have to abolish slavery. 00:38:47.200 --> 00:38:50.240 The Christian solution is to say no. 00:38:50.240 --> 00:38:54.080 We enact laws to regulate this, to reform the practices, to bring 00:38:54.080 --> 00:38:56.720 it in line with what Scripture says. 00:38:56.720 --> 00:38:58.960 And that runs throughout everything. 00:38:58.960 --> 00:39:04.320 We could apply that to the economy and society as well, because 00:39:04.320 --> 00:39:09.360 you have what's the m most radical solution, as it were, to 00:39:09.360 --> 00:39:13.040 issues presented by problems in the economy? 00:39:13.040 --> 00:39:17.200 Well that would be the hardcore Marxist or anarchist position, which is 00:39:17.200 --> 00:39:18.400 basically just abolish everything. 00:39:18.800 --> 00:39:22.800 Get rid of it as much as you can, reduce property rights, 00:39:22.800 --> 00:39:24.640 eliminate property rights, etc. 00:39:24.720 --> 00:39:29.040 We all know what they actually advocate, regardless of how it may 00:39:29.040 --> 00:39:33.760 work in reality, as we've seen, for instance, with the USSR But 00:39:33.760 --> 00:39:35.200 that's not the Christian solution. 00:39:35.200 --> 00:39:38.960 The Christian solution when you see these problems in the economy is 00:39:38.960 --> 00:39:44.080 say we need reform, it needs to be regulated to control these 00:39:44.080 --> 00:39:46.880 sinful results of fallen human nature. 00:39:46.880 --> 00:39:52.240 You don't abolish the system, because imperfect fallen humans cannot use it 00:39:52.480 --> 00:39:54.560 perfectly. Of course that's the case. 00:39:54.560 --> 00:39:57.280 We are all fallen, we are all sinful, we make mistakes, we 00:39:57.280 --> 00:40:02.240 sin. Things are not going to go exactly according to plan. 00:40:02.240 --> 00:40:05.520 That's one of the reasons we have this sort of hierarchy. 00:40:05.520 --> 00:40:08.560 Yes, the hierarchy is innate, it is part of God's good ordering 00:40:08.640 --> 00:40:12.240 of creation, it would have existed without the fall, but now subsequent 00:40:12.240 --> 00:40:15.200 to the fall, one of the duties of those higher up in 00:40:15.200 --> 00:40:20.240 the hierarchy is to ensure that things below him run properly, to 00:40:20.240 --> 00:40:24.800 curb the wicked, basically to use God's law in the three ways 00:40:24.800 --> 00:40:27.680 it is supposed to be used, although quite a bit of it 00:40:27.680 --> 00:40:31.280 is punishment when it comes to those ranked higher in the hierarchy 00:40:31.360 --> 00:40:34.480 in order to curb wickedness in society. 00:40:34.560 --> 00:40:38.800 But we also have that in society itself, in the the social 00:40:38.960 --> 00:40:44.800 setting, the atheist solution to finding any sort of problem, and yes, 00:40:44.800 --> 00:40:47.920 of course it is pretext in many cases, but finding any sort 00:40:47.920 --> 00:40:52.160 of problem in the inner relationship of men and women, or parents 00:40:52.160 --> 00:40:56.480 and children even, which is what we're getting into these days, is 00:40:56.480 --> 00:41:00.000 to get rid of those relationships, is to abolish them, is to 00:41:00.000 --> 00:41:05.280 radically reorient, reconfigure society so that you don't have this hierarchy, you 00:41:05.280 --> 00:41:08.640 don't have these relationships, you get rid of the power dynamics. 00:41:08.640 --> 00:41:12.160 And yes, even though Marxists are obsessed with the idea of power 00:41:12.160 --> 00:41:14.960 dynamics, power dynamics is a real thing. 00:41:14.960 --> 00:41:19.760 If you go stand before a prince, he has power over you. 00:41:19.760 --> 00:41:21.440 That is just the reality of it. 00:41:21.440 --> 00:41:22.960 And that holds today. 00:41:22.960 --> 00:41:26.640 If you are in court, the judge has power over you. 00:41:26.640 --> 00:41:28.800 And it doesn't actually matter if you're the one on trial or 00:41:28.800 --> 00:41:31.600 not. Yes, if you're on trial, he has more power over you, 00:41:31.600 --> 00:41:34.240 but if I appear in court as an attorney, that judge has 00:41:34.240 --> 00:41:36.480 power over me, he can hold me in contempt, he can throw 00:41:36.480 --> 00:41:37.360 me in jail. 00:41:37.360 --> 00:41:40.720 The power dynamics are real, those still exist, you cannot get rid 00:41:40.720 --> 00:41:41.120 of those. 00:41:41.120 --> 00:41:44.480 But the atheist solution is to attempt to get rid of those. 00:41:44.480 --> 00:41:48.400 The Christian solution is to reform them, to regulate them, to bring 00:41:48.400 --> 00:41:52.960 them in line with what God set up, how God ordered things, 00:41:52.960 --> 00:41:55.360 and what Scripture says. 00:41:55.360 --> 00:41:59.440 And yes, I'm sure some have heard in the background of this 00:41:59.520 --> 00:42:03.440 the echo of Seper Refemanda, and yes, that's a problem. 00:42:03.440 --> 00:42:08.560 We should not always be trying Be trying to reform because if 00:42:08.560 --> 00:42:12.320 you bring something in line with Scripture and in line with God's 00:42:12.320 --> 00:42:16.800 law, you don't need to keep reforming it. 00:42:16.800 --> 00:42:20.560 That is not actually the cry of the Christian, is not Semper 00:42:20.560 --> 00:42:22.640 Reformanda. That's not. 00:42:22.640 --> 00:42:26.880 That is the cry of the rebel, the cry of the radical. 00:42:26.880 --> 00:42:30.720 Because as you have undoubtedly been able to see thus far and 00:42:30.720 --> 00:42:36.960 continuing as we continue this episode with feminism, it is a ratchet. 00:42:36.960 --> 00:42:41.840 It is a constant attempt to continue rebelling against whatever little bit 00:42:41.840 --> 00:42:46.800 of God's order they find, wherever they find it, through constant revolution. 00:42:46.800 --> 00:42:48.960 And there's a distinction there. 00:42:48.960 --> 00:42:54.080 Revolutions are almost always wicked things that are meant to overthrow rightful 00:42:54.080 --> 00:42:59.360 order. Rebellions are not always so, Because sometimes a rebellion can be 00:42:59.360 --> 00:43:04.480 against tyrannical authority that has become oppressive and contrary to God, and 00:43:04.480 --> 00:43:06.960 that's an episode we will eventually do. 00:43:06.960 --> 00:43:10.560 I don't know when, so I won't make any promises on that. 00:43:10.560 --> 00:43:15.280 But there's a distinction there that is important to maintain revolution versus 00:43:15.280 --> 00:43:19.280 rebellion. And we're talking about really revolution here. 00:43:19.280 --> 00:43:22.880 Yes, it's rebellion in the sense of it is rebellion against God, 00:43:22.880 --> 00:43:26.320 which of course is always wicked. 00:43:26.320 --> 00:43:29.520 But there is in the political and social sphere a concept of 00:43:29.520 --> 00:43:31.760 rebellion that is not always wicked. 00:43:31.760 --> 00:43:34.560 And we'll be getting into more of the the revolutions here as 00:43:34.560 --> 00:43:38.400 we move into the next bit of this, because we see the 00:43:38.400 --> 00:43:44.720 revolutions in Europe that follow on really from what happened in the 00:43:44.720 --> 00:43:47.280 US in some ways, because you have the US Revolution, you have 00:43:47.280 --> 00:43:51.760 the French Revolution, you have what many don't know because it is 00:43:51.760 --> 00:43:55.600 no longer really taught in history class, you had revolutions throughout most 00:43:55.600 --> 00:43:59.120 of Western Europe and also in some parts of Eastern Europe in 00:43:59.120 --> 00:44:01.120 the eighteen hundreds. 00:44:01.120 --> 00:44:04.000 Some starting a little earlier, like the French Revolution and obviously the 00:44:04.000 --> 00:44:05.600 American Revolution. 00:44:05.600 --> 00:44:10.880 But this was a wave of revolution that spread throughout Christendom, and 00:44:10.880 --> 00:44:14.800 the goal was the same throughout: no gods, no masters. 00:44:14.800 --> 00:44:19.840 It was a desire to destroy the right ordering of the left 00:44:19.840 --> 00:44:23.600 hand kingdom, of the kingdom of the left hand of Christ, and 00:44:23.600 --> 00:44:27.520 to destroy that hierarchy that God had instituted as part of his 00:44:27.680 --> 00:44:30.480 creation, as part of his good. 00:44:30.480 --> 00:44:34.160 And so that's what we get into now because we see the 00:44:34.160 --> 00:44:38.000 consequences of that today, but this is where it started. 00:44:38.080 --> 00:44:42.240 And as I mentioned up front, that's literally one of the explicit 00:44:42.240 --> 00:44:46.560 descriptions of the enlightenment, overthrowing monarchy, overthrowing the church. 00:44:46.560 --> 00:44:47.440 What do we find? 00:44:47.440 --> 00:44:49.040 Both of those happening. 00:44:49.040 --> 00:44:53.760 And so after the American Revolution, after the drafting of the Declaration 00:44:53.760 --> 00:44:59.600 of Independence and the colonies becoming their own country, immediately Quaker agitators 00:44:59.600 --> 00:45:05.520 and some others began fighting for freedom for the slaves in the 00:45:05.520 --> 00:45:08.080 South. They wanted the abolition of slavery. 00:45:08.080 --> 00:45:10.160 They said, Well, all men are created equal. 00:45:10.160 --> 00:45:13.680 We have these men who are not being treated as equal. 00:45:13.680 --> 00:45:14.800 We need to fix that. 00:45:14.800 --> 00:45:18.400 The Quakers wouldn't resort to violence, but many others resorted to violence. 00:45:18.400 --> 00:45:20.480 And so there was a lot of discussion in the first half 00:45:20.480 --> 00:45:24.720 of the nineteenth century in the eighteen hundreds in the United States 00:45:25.040 --> 00:45:26.160 about this. 00:45:26.160 --> 00:45:30.640 And this was where feminism coalesced in the US. 00:45:30.640 --> 00:45:34.720 And one of the seminal moments in feminism in the United States 00:45:35.040 --> 00:45:38.320 was the Seneca Falls Convention of eighteen forty eight. 00:45:38.320 --> 00:45:40.960 This was the first women's rights convention. 00:45:40.960 --> 00:45:44.480 Now the reason this is key is that the they had a 00:45:44.480 --> 00:45:49.600 women's rights convention Invention in parallel with the work that had been 00:45:49.600 --> 00:45:52.640 done by the abolitionists in the decades prior. 00:45:52.640 --> 00:45:56.720 And see, as I mentioned, these things are part and parcel. 00:45:56.720 --> 00:45:57.840 They're inextricable. 00:45:57.840 --> 00:46:02.720 The abolition of slavery and the so called liberation of women have 00:46:02.720 --> 00:46:04.800 always been inextricably linked. 00:46:04.800 --> 00:46:07.360 You'll find on the mouth of every feminist today, you'll see it 00:46:07.360 --> 00:46:10.880 in all of the all the conversations about it always link them 00:46:10.960 --> 00:46:11.520 because it's true 00:46:12.640 --> 00:46:16.160 The reason that there was a Seneca Falls Convention in 1848, there 00:46:16.160 --> 00:46:19.680 was a women's rights convention, is they began to realize that maybe 00:46:19.680 --> 00:46:22.880 the fight for the abolition of slavery wasn't going to do women 00:46:22.880 --> 00:46:29.920 any good if they were not treated as their own specific constituency. 00:46:29.920 --> 00:46:33.280 And see this flows from the salons and from the coffee houses 00:46:33.520 --> 00:46:38.720 as a participation began, as the agitation picked up from those conversations, 00:46:38.720 --> 00:46:44.720 pretty soon you have massive conventions where this issue of women's liberation 00:46:45.040 --> 00:46:46.480 is seminal. 00:46:46.480 --> 00:46:49.360 And 1848 is a is a crucial year, you know, as Corey 00:46:49.360 --> 00:46:50.560 just mentioned. 00:46:50.560 --> 00:46:53.920 Look up on Wikipedia Revolutions of 1848. 00:46:53.920 --> 00:46:57.680 You can there's an entire Wikipedia article just about all the revolutions 00:46:57.680 --> 00:47:01.280 that occurred in this year in 1848. 00:47:01.280 --> 00:47:03.360 Hell literally broke loose. 00:47:03.600 --> 00:47:07.680 it had been happening before, but the mask really came off in 00:47:07.680 --> 00:47:08.880 eighteen forty-eight. 00:47:08.880 --> 00:47:13.520 So the Enlightenment lit the fuse, and here's where we see the 00:47:13.520 --> 00:47:15.040 first detonation. 00:47:15.040 --> 00:47:21.440 We see simultaneous to work for abolition, we see now explicit work 00:47:21.760 --> 00:47:26.800 for the liberation of women, for women's suffrage, for women's rights, for 00:47:26.800 --> 00:47:32.080 equal rights, for the abolition of coverture, of basically total equality and 00:47:32.080 --> 00:47:34.800 then ultimately today we have the usurpation of man entirely. 00:47:34.800 --> 00:47:38.400 You know, the modern feminist goal is to have babies without men 00:47:38.400 --> 00:47:38.800 at all. 00:47:38.800 --> 00:47:39.600 And they're doing that. 00:47:39.840 --> 00:47:44.160 they're producing they can produce an embryo embryo where they've taken DNA 00:47:44.160 --> 00:47:47.040 from two eggs or from you know two female donors. 00:47:47.040 --> 00:47:53.200 So that's that's the transhumanist next the end of the beginning that 00:47:53.200 --> 00:47:55.280 we see in these smaller moves. 00:47:55.280 --> 00:47:56.000 And And 00:47:56.960 --> 00:48:01.280 the Seneca Falls Convention was was fueled again by Quakers and a 00:48:01.280 --> 00:48:06.080 woman who was seminal in all this, Elizabeth Cady Stanton, uh she 00:48:06.080 --> 00:48:08.960 was really one of the most important feminists in history. 00:48:08.960 --> 00:48:09.520 Susan B. 00:48:09.520 --> 00:48:12.640 Anthony kind of gets more press, but I think in in reading 00:48:12.640 --> 00:48:16.560 about this and looking at the impact, I think Stan was probably 00:48:16.560 --> 00:48:17.920 more important. 00:48:17.920 --> 00:48:22.560 She gave rise to to organizing this thing and to making a 00:48:22.560 --> 00:48:25.520 a front burner issue in society. 00:48:25.520 --> 00:48:29.040 But what she said even in the eighteen forties as she was 00:48:29.040 --> 00:48:32.000 describing this is really revealing and it gets back to the point 00:48:32.000 --> 00:48:34.560 that we were talking about at the beginning about this being about 00:48:34.560 --> 00:48:37.520 scripture. Like this is when we're talking about feminism, we're not just 00:48:37.520 --> 00:48:41.440 talking about beating up on girls and saying we want we want 00:48:41.440 --> 00:48:43.360 misogyny, we want subjugation. 00:48:43.360 --> 00:48:44.480 That's not the point. 00:48:44.480 --> 00:48:46.480 This is a theological problem. 00:48:46.480 --> 00:48:51.040 Listen to what is said about Elizabeth Cady Stanton. 00:48:51.040 --> 00:48:54.320 She said she had been terrified as a child by a minister's 00:48:54.320 --> 00:48:57.760 talk of damnation, but after overcoming those fears with the help of 00:48:57.760 --> 00:49:01.120 her father and brother in law, had rejected that type of religion 00:49:01.120 --> 00:49:02.640 entirely, meaning Christianity. 00:49:02.640 --> 00:49:06.800 So even as a child, she in her in her young life, 00:49:06.800 --> 00:49:08.560 she rejected Christianity. 00:49:08.560 --> 00:49:11.520 As an adult, her religious views continued to evolve. 00:49:11.520 --> 00:49:14.480 While living in Boston in the eighteen forties, she was attracted to 00:49:14.480 --> 00:49:18.960 the preaching of Theodore Parker, who, like her cousin, Garrett Smith, was 00:49:18.960 --> 00:49:22.480 a member of the Secret Six, a group of men who financed 00:49:22.480 --> 00:49:26.800 John Brown's raid on Harper's Ferry in an effort to spark an 00:49:26.800 --> 00:49:28.960 armed slave rebellion. 00:49:28.960 --> 00:49:32.560 So that was her cousin, that was her spiritual leader, their literal 00:49:32.560 --> 00:49:39.360 terrorists and anarchists, undertaking demonic activity to foment violent rebellion. 00:49:39.360 --> 00:49:44.240 This is her genesis as she's becoming an arch feminist. 00:49:44.240 --> 00:49:45.360 It continues. 00:49:45.360 --> 00:49:50.160 Parker was a transcendentalist and a prominent Unitarian minister, which means completely 00:49:50.160 --> 00:49:53.280 not Christian, not remotely, who what Who what did he teach? 00:49:53.280 --> 00:49:56.800 He taught that the Bible need not be taken literally, that God 00:49:56.800 --> 00:50:00.240 need not be envisioned as a male, and the individual men and 00:50:00.240 --> 00:50:03.920 women had the ability to determine religious truth for themselves. 00:50:03.920 --> 00:50:06.240 So you can see why Stan would really like that, because that's 00:50:06.240 --> 00:50:07.920 that's everything she was looking for. 00:50:07.920 --> 00:50:10.000 She wanted no gods, no masters. 00:50:10.000 --> 00:50:12.480 She didn't want a God who was a man. 00:50:12.480 --> 00:50:14.480 She wanted to be her own God. 00:50:14.480 --> 00:50:16.800 And Parker gave it to her. 00:50:17.200 --> 00:50:21.280 Subsequent to that, in the Declaration of Sentiments written for the eighteen 00:50:21.280 --> 00:50:25.840 forty eight Seneca Falls Convention, Stanton listed a series of grievances against 00:50:25.840 --> 00:50:30.000 men who, among other things, excluded women from the ministry and other 00:50:30.000 --> 00:50:31.680 leading roles in religion. 00:50:31.680 --> 00:50:36.160 In one of those grievances, Stanton said that man quote has usurped 00:50:36.160 --> 00:50:40.720 the prerogative of Jehovah himself, claiming it as his right to assign 00:50:40.720 --> 00:50:44.320 for her a sphere of action when that belongs to her conscience 00:50:44.960 --> 00:50:46.240 and her God. 00:50:46.240 --> 00:50:48.960 This was n the only grievance that was not a matter of 00:50:48.960 --> 00:50:52.560 fact, such as exclusion of women from colleges, from the right to 00:50:52.560 --> 00:50:57.040 vote, etcetera, but when a belief, when the challenge is a fundamental 00:50:57.040 --> 00:51:00.320 basis of authority and autonomy. 00:51:00.320 --> 00:51:01.840 So this is crucial. 00:51:01.840 --> 00:51:06.880 This protofeminist, this harbinger of everything that has happened in the last 00:51:06.880 --> 00:51:11.200 two centuries in the advancement of so called women's rights, why did 00:51:11.200 --> 00:51:12.000 she do it? 00:51:12.000 --> 00:51:15.440 She did it because she lied about women being made f as 00:51:15.520 --> 00:51:16.720 a helper for man. 00:51:16.720 --> 00:51:19.680 She said no, a woman will define her own role, and that's 00:51:19.600 --> 00:51:22.480 between her and her God, who clearly was not the god of 00:51:22.480 --> 00:51:24.000 the Bible. 00:51:24.000 --> 00:51:24.320 And 00:51:25.200 --> 00:51:27.760 she specifically attacked Christianity. 00:51:27.760 --> 00:51:29.360 She attacked Christian doctrine. 00:51:29.920 --> 00:51:33.760 she was for women's ordination, which was again a fundament a function 00:51:33.760 --> 00:51:36.400 in part of being surrounded by Quakers who are a demonic cult. 00:51:36.800 --> 00:51:39.520 I it's it's tragic that we didn't stamp them out. 00:51:39.520 --> 00:51:42.720 Uh when the first Quakers began coming to this country to to 00:51:42.800 --> 00:51:47.440 Massachusetts Bay Colony, they started getting executed and King I think King 00:51:47.440 --> 00:51:50.880 Philip II actually put a stop to it, which is unfortunate because 00:51:51.120 --> 00:51:57.680 if the Quakers had been ended by conversion or by godly justice, 00:51:57.680 --> 00:51:59.200 we wouldn't have these problems today. 00:51:59.200 --> 00:52:02.240 But instead they were tolerated because that was one of the values 00:52:02.320 --> 00:52:03.680 even of those colonies. 00:52:03.680 --> 00:52:07.840 While they were they were Christian in principle, tolerance was already an 00:52:07.840 --> 00:52:11.200 enlightenment value that was being pushed into the hearts and minds of 00:52:11.200 --> 00:52:13.840 men to say, Oh, I I can't judge your doctrine. 00:52:13.840 --> 00:52:15.920 You that's between you and your God. 00:52:15.920 --> 00:52:20.800 Well, two centuries later, Stanton it has her god telling her what 00:52:20.800 --> 00:52:22.800 to do, and we see the results. 00:52:23.280 --> 00:52:28.080 One of the major works produced by Stanton and a committee of 00:52:28.080 --> 00:52:32.560 other authors, which says something about committees, perhaps, but was the woman's 00:52:32.560 --> 00:52:36.480 Bible, which basically they went through and just rewrote the Bible in 00:52:36.480 --> 00:52:40.960 order to agree with feminist ideology. 00:52:40.960 --> 00:52:46.240 That was published in two volumes, and it is a wicked book. 00:52:46.240 --> 00:52:50.080 It is an inversion of what scripture teaches, it is an inversion 00:52:50.080 --> 00:52:55.040 of what God says is true, and that's just exactly what you 00:52:55.040 --> 00:53:00.480 expect from feminism, because feminism is an inversion of what God says 00:53:00.480 --> 00:53:02.960 is true, of what Scripture actually teaches. 00:53:02.960 --> 00:53:06.880 As we went over in the first half of this two-part episodes 00:53:06.880 --> 00:53:09.440 series, scripture is very clear. 00:53:09.440 --> 00:53:14.560 Again, woman was made as a helper for man. 00:53:14.560 --> 00:53:19.760 Any attempt to make woman a competitor, an equal to man, is 00:53:20.160 --> 00:53:25.120 rebellion against God, is wickedness, it is sin. 00:53:25.120 --> 00:53:30.000 And so we see that here in the beginning of the feminist 00:53:30.000 --> 00:53:32.080 movement in the US and elsewhere. 00:53:32.080 --> 00:53:36.000 As was mentioned, this is also involved in some of the revolutions 00:53:36.000 --> 00:53:40.640 that are going on at essentially the same time in Europe. 00:53:40.640 --> 00:53:44.160 Many of those who failed in the revolutions, because not all of 00:53:44.160 --> 00:53:46.480 those revolutions really got anywhere in Europe. 00:53:46.480 --> 00:53:50.720 Some of them were crushed, although at great expense, in both terms 00:53:50.720 --> 00:53:53.200 of treasure and blood. 00:53:53.200 --> 00:53:57.680 Many of them came to the US and bolstered the feminist ranks 00:53:57.680 --> 00:54:00.400 here, and so that is part of the reason that we have 00:54:00.400 --> 00:54:03.440 such a concentration in the US. 00:54:03.440 --> 00:54:06.080 And of course a lot of this took off after World War 00:54:06.080 --> 00:54:10.000 I, some of this took off during the revolutions that took place 00:54:10.000 --> 00:54:14.480 in the seventeen hundreds, intensified in the eighteen hundreds, intensified again in 00:54:14.480 --> 00:54:17.840 the nineteen hundreds for various reasons, we'll get into that in a 00:54:17.840 --> 00:54:20.160 moment. But 00:54:21.360 --> 00:54:28.640 it is worth highlighting again just how much interrelationship relationship and how 00:54:28.640 --> 00:54:34.560 complex the web is when it comes to abolition and feminism, and 00:54:34.560 --> 00:54:37.040 all of the issues that then flowed after that. 00:54:37.280 --> 00:54:41.840 They are part and parcel, they are the same thing, because they 00:54:41.840 --> 00:54:47.120 are both rebellion against God's good order. 00:54:47.120 --> 00:54:50.560 Scripture does not teach, as we went over in the episode on 00:54:50.560 --> 00:54:51.680 slavery, that slavery is 00:54:52.560 --> 00:54:57.120 sinful. You can exercise it in a sinful manner, you can exercise 00:54:57.120 --> 00:55:00.160 it in a perfectly Christian manner. 00:55:00.160 --> 00:55:07.440 The desire to abolish slavery is is morally equivalent to feminism, because 00:55:07.440 --> 00:55:11.360 both are a rejection of the order that God has instituted in 00:55:11.360 --> 00:55:15.120 creation, they are ultimately a rejection of God. 00:55:15.120 --> 00:55:18.320 And so that is why you see so many of those who 00:55:18.320 --> 00:55:24.800 worked in or were associated with abolitionism transitioning right into feminism. 00:55:24.800 --> 00:55:29.120 And then the women's suffrage movement and so-called women's rights. 00:55:29.440 --> 00:55:34.640 and then expanding the franchise ever more and more because it never 00:55:34.640 --> 00:55:38.720 stops. As we have said many times, there is no floor. 00:55:38.720 --> 00:55:40.720 Sin can always get worse. 00:55:40.720 --> 00:55:42.400 It always snowballs. 00:55:42.400 --> 00:55:45.520 The slope is always slippery. 00:55:45.600 --> 00:55:49.280 One of the things that happened in the immediate aftermath of the 00:55:49.280 --> 00:55:55.840 Civil War when the thirteenth, fourteenth, and then fifteenth amendments were passed, 00:55:55.840 --> 00:56:00.960 Stanton and others were ticked because they had hoped that the fifteenth 00:56:00.960 --> 00:56:08.400 Amendment, which basically granted citizenship and effectively voting rights to freed slaves, 00:56:08.400 --> 00:56:09.760 didn't include women. 00:56:09.760 --> 00:56:11.680 See, this was their plan all along. 00:56:11.920 --> 00:56:16.960 the the feminism was trying to draft behind abolition, but it was 00:56:16.960 --> 00:56:18.240 all the same fight. 00:56:18.240 --> 00:56:21.920 And there's some some choice quotes from Stanton when she realized that 00:56:21.920 --> 00:56:24.640 black men were gonna get the vote and she wasn't. 00:56:25.440 --> 00:56:28.240 she went mask off and she's like I'm not gonna quote what 00:56:28.240 --> 00:56:31.360 she said here, but modern ears would be offended by the words 00:56:31.360 --> 00:56:34.800 that she used because she wasn't doing it for them. 00:56:34.800 --> 00:56:36.160 She was doing it for herself. 00:56:36.160 --> 00:56:40.720 And so when African Americans were freed and given the franchise and 00:56:40.720 --> 00:56:43.840 she wasn't, she didn't see that as a victory for liberty. 00:56:43.840 --> 00:56:46.880 She was ticked off because she was still second class. 00:56:46.880 --> 00:56:51.760 And And so in 1868, Stanton and Susan B. 00:56:51.760 --> 00:56:57.360 Anthony founded a paper that was short-lived called Surprise, Surprise, The Revolution, 00:56:57.360 --> 00:57:00.640 where they began pushing for, well, if we didn't get in the 00:57:00.720 --> 00:57:04.160 15th Amendment, we gotta fight and fight and fight until we achieve 00:57:04.160 --> 00:57:08.240 equality for women, which finally came in the nineteenth Amendment a decade 00:57:08.240 --> 00:57:09.920 or so after her death. 00:57:09.920 --> 00:57:15.120 I think it's worth noting that when Stanton published the women's Bible, 00:57:15.120 --> 00:57:16.640 that was in 1895. 00:57:16.640 --> 00:57:20.560 So that's nearly fifty years after the F Seneca Falls Convention. 00:57:20.560 --> 00:57:25.200 Now, although at the Seneca Call Falls Convention, she had already exposed 00:57:25.200 --> 00:57:28.800 that she was not a Christian, that she was hostile to God. 00:57:28.800 --> 00:57:32.000 It was only in the latter years of her life when she 00:57:32.000 --> 00:57:35.200 felt she had nothing to lose that she really went fully mask 00:57:35.200 --> 00:57:38.880 off on the degree to which she specifically hated Christianity. 00:57:38.880 --> 00:57:42.800 And it caused caused a huge rift in the feminist movement of 00:57:42.800 --> 00:57:47.280 that day because she was actually denounced by her own organization. 00:57:47.280 --> 00:57:49.760 And her close lifelong friend Susan B. 00:57:49.760 --> 00:57:53.840 Anthony fought against the organization because for her the sake of her 00:57:53.840 --> 00:57:57.920 honor, but ultimately they didn't narrowly pass a condemnation of what she 00:57:57.920 --> 00:58:01.520 said. What she and the other editors in the women's Bible did 00:58:01.520 --> 00:58:05.040 was to methodically work their way through it, quoting selected passages and 00:58:05.040 --> 00:58:09.040 commenting on them often sarcastically. 00:58:09.040 --> 00:58:12.640 One of the things that she had told an acquaintance in in 00:58:12.640 --> 00:58:17.360 response to her views, well, if we who do see the absurdities 00:58:17.360 --> 00:58:21.120 of this old superstitions never unveil them to others. 00:58:21.120 --> 00:58:24.320 How is the world to make any progress in the theologies? 00:58:24.320 --> 00:58:27.040 I am in the sunset of life, and I feel to be 00:58:27.040 --> 00:58:29.920 my special mission to tell people what they are not prepared to 00:58:29.920 --> 00:58:33.440 hear. So she knew that she had nothing to lose. 00:58:33.440 --> 00:58:37.840 She knew that her enemy was God and Christianity, and she revised 00:58:37.840 --> 00:58:41.600 this wicked Bible for the sake of trying to tear down God 00:58:41.600 --> 00:58:42.880 and the God of Christianity. 00:58:43.040 --> 00:58:45.360 And she explains why in the book itself. 00:58:45.600 --> 00:58:48.800 I do not believe that any man ever saw or talked to 00:58:48.800 --> 00:58:52.320 God. I do not believe that God inspired the Mosaic Code or 00:58:52.320 --> 00:58:55.760 told the historians what they say he did about woman for all 00:58:55.760 --> 00:58:59.360 the religions on the face of earth degrade her, and so long 00:58:59.360 --> 00:59:04.240 as woman accepts the position that they assign her, her emancipation is 00:59:04.240 --> 00:59:07.040 impossible. That's it in a nutshell. 00:59:07.040 --> 00:59:08.080 She's absolutely right. 00:59:08.080 --> 00:59:12.560 As long as you accept Christianity, the emancipation of women is impossible. 00:59:12.560 --> 00:59:15.760 She knew what battle she was fighting, and she knew what master 00:59:15.760 --> 00:59:16.480 she was serving. 00:59:16.480 --> 00:59:18.880 So what her words are absolutely true here. 00:59:18.880 --> 00:59:20.640 What they are not is Christian. 00:59:20.640 --> 00:59:24.640 They're absolutely contrary to Christian doctrine and scripture. 00:59:24.640 --> 00:59:26.560 So what does that have to do with us today? 00:59:26.560 --> 00:59:29.680 Well, this is the genesis of voting rights for women. 00:59:29.680 --> 00:59:30.640 This is it. 00:59:30.640 --> 00:59:34.720 This is the woman that gave you as a woman the so-called 00:59:34.720 --> 00:59:35.760 right to vote. 00:59:35.760 --> 00:59:40.400 You now have the franchise, both in public life universally, and in 00:59:40.400 --> 00:59:42.800 our churches now, since early the sixties. 00:59:42.800 --> 00:59:47.040 Virtually every church now permits women to vote on matters in the 00:59:47.040 --> 00:59:51.840 church. All of that is the Genesis born of a woman who 00:59:51.840 --> 00:59:55.760 hated God and devoted her life to overthrowing his order. 00:59:55.760 --> 00:59:58.320 You want to talk about the genealogy of ideas? 00:59:58.320 --> 01:00:00.480 You want to talk about the fruit of trees? 01:00:00.480 --> 01:00:01.760 This is the tree. 01:00:01.760 --> 01:00:02.800 Stanton is the tree. 01:00:03.840 --> 01:00:07.200 And all the things that we have today that we take as 01:00:07.200 --> 01:00:11.680 personal rights, as things that are sacrosanct, those are the fruits. 01:00:11.680 --> 01:00:13.920 Those are the fruits of a demonic tree. 01:00:13.920 --> 01:00:18.880 Stanton is burning in hell and her life's work lives on today 01:00:19.120 --> 01:00:22.480 by people who think that when they hear these things, when they 01:00:22.480 --> 01:00:25.680 hear what she did, they think that she did it in service 01:00:25.680 --> 01:00:26.560 to God. 01:00:26.560 --> 01:00:30.720 And I pray for those people that they don't mean service to 01:00:30.720 --> 01:00:33.360 their God because if they go down that path and are fully 01:00:33.360 --> 01:00:36.320 committed to it, what they are saying is that their God is 01:00:36.320 --> 01:00:40.080 not the triune God because her God was Satan. 01:00:40.080 --> 01:00:45.120 She devoted her life to a satanic pursuit of overthrowing all hierarchy 01:00:45.280 --> 01:00:47.680 in direct opposition to God. 01:00:47.680 --> 01:00:50.000 So why are we talking about feminism? 01:00:50.000 --> 01:00:51.040 This is why. 01:00:51.040 --> 01:00:53.760 Feminism was born of satanic worship. 01:00:54.240 --> 01:00:57.680 It was born as a doctrine of demons. 01:00:57.680 --> 01:00:59.040 It's inextricable. 01:00:59.040 --> 01:01:00.640 And this is only first wave feminism. 01:01:00.640 --> 01:01:02.800 We're not even talking about later generations yet. 01:01:02.800 --> 01:01:04.720 We're not going to spend a whole lot of time on those 01:01:04.720 --> 01:01:08.160 because it's more recent history that you know better, but it kept 01:01:08.160 --> 01:01:10.720 getting worse because of where it started. 01:01:10.720 --> 01:01:14.000 There's not one single moment of any of this, you know, with 01:01:14.000 --> 01:01:21.040 her unitarian universalist pastor and her anarchist demon cousin trying to 01:01:21.040 --> 01:01:23.680 foment violent rebellion and murder. 01:01:23.680 --> 01:01:27.200 These are the trees from which the fruits of these beliefs came. 01:01:27.200 --> 01:01:28.800 They did not come from scripture. 01:01:28.800 --> 01:01:32.720 That's why we devoted the first episode about feminism specifically to scripture 01:01:32.800 --> 01:01:35.120 to demonstrate, here's what God says. 01:01:35.120 --> 01:01:38.160 It's literally the opposite of everything that these people are doing. 01:01:38.160 --> 01:01:42.080 So today when we hear feminism in any of its forms upheld 01:01:42.240 --> 01:01:46.480 as something godly, as something that's found in Scripture by men today. 01:01:46.480 --> 01:01:47.520 They're lying. 01:01:47.520 --> 01:01:49.120 They're absolutely lying. 01:01:49.120 --> 01:01:51.920 Demons found this in hell and they brought it to man. 01:01:51.920 --> 01:01:53.680 And man brought it to church. 01:01:53.680 --> 01:01:56.720 And church is now shoving it down the throats of Christians who, 01:01:56.720 --> 01:01:59.600 if they swallow it, will ultimately cease to be Christian. 01:01:59.600 --> 01:02:02.000 These are the stakes for these conversations. 01:02:02.240 --> 01:02:05.280 We see this sort of argument going back to 01:02:06.640 --> 01:02:11.200 the more blunt rejection of Christianity, of Scripture versus 01:02:12.240 --> 01:02:17.440 the supposedly moderate forces that didn't want to reject those things yet, 01:02:17.440 --> 01:02:19.280 which of course that is the key. 01:02:19.280 --> 01:02:22.400 But we see a form of this all the time, and it's 01:02:22.400 --> 01:02:25.760 basically, a rough form of the Motten Bailey argument. 01:02:25.760 --> 01:02:30.160 For those who aren't familiar, the Motten Bailey Castle is a type 01:02:30.160 --> 01:02:33.360 of European fortification where you have what is called a mot. 01:02:33.360 --> 01:02:36.480 It is a keep on a hill, a raised area, and then 01:02:36.480 --> 01:02:39.280 you have a walled area below that that is the Bailey. 01:02:39.280 --> 01:02:42.560 The Bailey is where you have your your little town. 01:02:42.560 --> 01:02:45.600 So if you are attacked, you retreat to the mot because it 01:02:45.600 --> 01:02:47.760 is more defensible. 01:02:47.760 --> 01:02:50.720 And the reason that that's used is because that's exactly how the 01:02:50.720 --> 01:02:52.400 argument goes. 01:02:52.400 --> 01:02:56.800 The Mott and Bailey fallacy is this you make a wild claim 01:02:56.880 --> 01:02:59.760 or an indefensible claim, that's the Bailey. 01:02:59.760 --> 01:03:02.320 And then when someone points out that you made a wild and 01:03:02.320 --> 01:03:09.360 indefensible claim, you retreat to a moderate, reasonable, defensible version of that 01:03:09.360 --> 01:03:12.720 claim. Doesn't even have to be that directly related, just as long 01:03:12.720 --> 01:03:15.440 as you can kind of make the argument they're maybe related, you 01:03:15.440 --> 01:03:16.320 retreat to the mot. 01:03:17.120 --> 01:03:20.880 And then as soon as the threat passes, because well you've defended 01:03:20.880 --> 01:03:23.600 yourself in the mot, you return to the Bailey and make the 01:03:23.600 --> 01:03:25.040 same argument. 01:03:25.040 --> 01:03:29.280 And we see a form of that with many Christians today, including 01:03:29.280 --> 01:03:34.960 many pastors, where they'll say, Well, obviously we can't worship demons, well 01:03:35.040 --> 01:03:36.240 that's the mot. 01:03:36.240 --> 01:03:38.800 That's the absolutely defensible position. 01:03:38.800 --> 01:03:41.840 No one is going to say, well no, no, you can't worship 01:03:41.840 --> 01:03:46.080 demons. But then they go down to the Bailey after the threat 01:03:46.080 --> 01:03:48.800 has passed and say, But of course we can have women voting 01:03:48.800 --> 01:03:54.160 in our congregations, and we can have women exercising political rights outside 01:03:54.160 --> 01:04:00.640 the home, and we can have A, B, C through Z. 01:04:00.640 --> 01:04:02.720 That's not how it works. 01:04:02.720 --> 01:04:04.720 Because Satan is 01:04:05.680 --> 01:04:09.440 the camel that sticks its nose under your tent flap. 01:04:09.440 --> 01:04:13.120 If you don't stop it then, you wake up with the entire 01:04:13.120 --> 01:04:15.520 camel in the tent with you. 01:04:15.520 --> 01:04:17.280 And that is where we are today. 01:04:17.280 --> 01:04:22.640 So we get attacked by pastors and others when we point out 01:04:22.640 --> 01:04:27.600 these stark black and white lines in scripture where it says, No, 01:04:27.600 --> 01:04:33.120 you may not do this, because the entirety of our cultural inner 01:04:33.280 --> 01:04:39.440 inertia is against these arguments because we have, for centuries, not been 01:04:39.440 --> 01:04:42.320 listening to the Word of God, not been listening to Scripture. 01:04:42.320 --> 01:04:46.640 We have been listening to Satan filtered through these various agents, some 01:04:46.640 --> 01:04:48.800 of whom we've named. 01:04:48.800 --> 01:04:55.040 And so they'll say this seemingly reasonable position, and then as soon 01:04:55.040 --> 01:04:58.160 as they're subjected to scripture, they retreat to the mot 01:04:59.040 --> 01:05:02.480 and make an argument that is in line with scripture. 01:05:02.480 --> 01:05:05.760 And they'll say, Well, we believe the gospel. 01:05:05.760 --> 01:05:07.200 No one is attacking the gospel. 01:05:07.200 --> 01:05:07.920 That's not the point. 01:05:07.920 --> 01:05:11.280 That's not what we're focusing on with this podcast. 01:05:11.680 --> 01:05:14.320 And so some of the critiques will be where's the gospel in 01:05:14.320 --> 01:05:15.600 what you're saying? 01:05:15.600 --> 01:05:17.920 We affirm the gospel. 01:05:17.920 --> 01:05:22.800 The issue is as a Christian, once you are a Christian, then 01:05:22.800 --> 01:05:24.240 what do you do? 01:05:24.240 --> 01:05:27.760 It's not a matter of just saying, I believe in Jesus, I'm 01:05:27.760 --> 01:05:29.600 over the line, I'm safe. 01:05:29.600 --> 01:05:32.800 No, because there is more to the Christian life. 01:05:32.800 --> 01:05:35.360 James is a book written to Christians. 01:05:35.360 --> 01:05:39.120 There are supposed to be works that flow from being a Christian, 01:05:39.120 --> 01:05:42.720 and part of that is listening to the Word of God because 01:05:42.720 --> 01:05:46.000 Christians have the indwelling of the Holy Spirit, and when they read 01:05:46.000 --> 01:05:48.640 the Word of God, when they hear the Word of God, they 01:05:48.640 --> 01:05:50.160 understand it. 01:05:50.160 --> 01:05:53.280 That's not saying you'll understand everything, there are parts that are difficult 01:05:53.280 --> 01:05:57.840 to work through, and God gives differing abilities to different people. 01:05:57.840 --> 01:06:01.440 But the core truths of the Christian faith you will understand when 01:06:01.440 --> 01:06:02.800 you hear them. 01:06:02.800 --> 01:06:06.240 You will understand truth when it is spoken to you from the 01:06:06.240 --> 01:06:09.440 Word of God if you are a Christian. 01:06:09.440 --> 01:06:11.440 And that is the point. 01:06:11.440 --> 01:06:14.880 These are things that are in Scripture, and we as Christians have 01:06:14.880 --> 01:06:17.120 to obey them, we have to listen to them because they are 01:06:17.120 --> 01:06:17.600 the voice of God 01:06:18.480 --> 01:06:21.760 speaking to us, telling us how we should conduct ourselves. 01:06:21.760 --> 01:06:25.760 And so when God says that a woman is a helper, if 01:06:26.000 --> 01:06:29.680 society says that woman can be a competitor, you have to choose 01:06:29.760 --> 01:06:31.520 as a Christian, are you going to listen to God 01:06:32.400 --> 01:06:35.040 or are you going to listen to society? 01:06:35.040 --> 01:06:39.680 When Scripture says that woman has a head, and that head is 01:06:39.680 --> 01:06:46.160 man, and society says, No women can vote, including in your churches. 01:06:46.160 --> 01:06:48.800 Are you going to listen to society or are you going to 01:06:48.800 --> 01:06:50.080 listen to God? 01:06:50.080 --> 01:06:52.400 As a Christian you have to choose. 01:06:52.400 --> 01:06:54.640 And as a Christian there's only one option. 01:06:54.640 --> 01:06:58.960 Because if you choose the other one, you cease to be Christian. 01:06:58.960 --> 01:07:02.240 And so that is the what we see today in so many 01:07:02.240 --> 01:07:08.720 interactions with Christians, is that they will make a completely reasonable argument, 01:07:08.720 --> 01:07:13.520 the mot, something that is just a core truth in Christianity, with 01:07:13.520 --> 01:07:17.040 which no Christian can disagree, and then they'll say, well because of 01:07:17.040 --> 01:07:19.440 that, and they go right to the Bailey to something that is 01:07:19.440 --> 01:07:21.840 completely indefensible and insane. 01:07:21.840 --> 01:07:25.280 And so And so it's well you believe the gospel, right? 01:07:25.280 --> 01:07:28.000 Well that means you have to get rid of your slaves. 01:07:28.000 --> 01:07:30.560 Well you believe the gospel, right? 01:07:30.560 --> 01:07:33.600 That means you have to let your daughters go to university and 01:07:34.560 --> 01:07:36.960 do all the things we know that young women do at university 01:07:36.960 --> 01:07:42.240 University. The Bailey doesn't follow from the mot, do not fall for 01:07:42.240 --> 01:07:46.320 it when you see that argument made, when you see that form 01:07:46.320 --> 01:07:48.320 of argument advanced. 01:07:48.320 --> 01:07:52.480 You can affirm what is said as the mot, as the keep, 01:07:52.480 --> 01:07:56.560 the core truth, but do not let it distract you, and do 01:07:56.560 --> 01:08:00.720 not let it mislead you when the wild claim is made after 01:08:00.720 --> 01:08:04.080 it that does not follow that is not Christian. 01:08:04.080 --> 01:08:09.040 And that's what we see happening here with the issue of feminism. 01:08:09.040 --> 01:08:12.480 Except, of course, there is a slightly tweaked version of this, which 01:08:12.480 --> 01:08:15.520 is what we see with Stanton and others, where they just go 01:08:15.520 --> 01:08:19.280 ahead and make the wildest claim right up front, yeah, I don't 01:08:19.200 --> 01:08:23.200 believe in God and scripture is wicked and you shouldn't obey it, 01:08:23.200 --> 01:08:27.440 and instead, no gods, no masters. 01:08:27.440 --> 01:08:32.640 Usually you will have a moderating force within any of these revolutionary 01:08:32.640 --> 01:08:37.280 groups that will try to get the the bulk of people, the 01:08:37.280 --> 01:08:41.440 reasonable the well, somewhat reasonable people, to come along with them by 01:08:41.440 --> 01:08:44.480 saying, Oh, don't pay attention to that person in the corner, she's 01:08:44.480 --> 01:08:49.600 crazy. The problem is the person in the corner screaming in these 01:08:49.600 --> 01:08:54.480 revolutionary groups is usually the person who's leading it realistically, because that's 01:08:54.480 --> 01:08:58.000 the person who is speaking with the unfiltered mouth of Satan, the 01:08:58.000 --> 01:09:00.320 person who is speaking Satan's voice. 01:09:00.320 --> 01:09:05.040 And Satan is the one leading the revolutionary group. 01:09:05.040 --> 01:09:09.440 And so you go from the supposedly reasonable people who say no 01:09:09.520 --> 01:09:13.360 we don't want to abolish Christendom and order and hierarchy in the 01:09:13.360 --> 01:09:16.800 family. We just want to make these tweaks to them. 01:09:17.440 --> 01:09:21.200 Well, if those tweaks are contrary to scripture, you eventually wind up 01:09:21.200 --> 01:09:25.680 with the screaming person in the corner, the actual possessed person in 01:09:25.680 --> 01:09:27.040 some cases. 01:09:27.040 --> 01:09:30.720 Because that's the goal, that's where Satan is taking you. 01:09:30.720 --> 01:09:35.040 Even if you don't see where you're going, if you look around 01:09:35.200 --> 01:09:39.200 and the way is broad and easy, you are probably not on 01:09:39.200 --> 01:09:40.880 the straight and narrow. 01:09:40.960 --> 01:09:45.920 The incredible result of first wave feminism as it came to a 01:09:45.920 --> 01:09:50.560 close shortly after World War One was that in the span of 01:09:50.560 --> 01:09:54.800 about five years between about nineteen seventeen, nineteen eighteen and nineteen twenty 01:09:54.800 --> 01:10:00.000 two or twenty-three, virtually every country on both sides of the Atlantic 01:10:00.240 --> 01:10:04.080 almost simultaneously adopted universal women's suffrage. 01:10:04.080 --> 01:10:05.920 Now that's astonishing to think about. 01:10:05.920 --> 01:10:10.800 When you think about the disparity in history, in culture, in 01:10:11.680 --> 01:10:17.920 political governance, almost all at once, in the immediate aftermath of World 01:10:17.920 --> 01:10:21.920 War One, you have the culmination of one of the principal goals 01:10:21.920 --> 01:10:22.960 of the Enlightenment. 01:10:22.960 --> 01:10:26.720 No No gods, no masters, instead democracy. 01:10:26.720 --> 01:10:31.120 And not only democracy where it's one vote for per household, but 01:10:31.120 --> 01:10:33.120 where women can also vote. 01:10:33.120 --> 01:10:38.320 And this is crucial in American history because the There are a 01:10:38.320 --> 01:10:45.200 great many things that in the United States politically, policy-wise, they fundamentally 01:10:45.200 --> 01:10:48.880 pivot as soon as the nineteenth amendment is passed. 01:10:48.880 --> 01:10:51.840 As I said last week, if at the time of the the 01:10:52.160 --> 01:10:56.080 ratification of the nineteenth Amendment women had had the vote, it would 01:10:56.080 --> 01:10:57.040 not have passed. 01:10:57.040 --> 01:10:59.280 Women were not in favor of it. 01:10:59.280 --> 01:11:03.200 It was not the majority opinion of women to be subjected to 01:11:03.200 --> 01:11:06.640 the political sphere because most of them were Christian women. 01:11:06.640 --> 01:11:07.600 They knew better. 01:11:07.600 --> 01:11:09.040 They knew that it wasn't their place. 01:11:09.040 --> 01:11:10.480 They knew it was a burden. 01:11:10.480 --> 01:11:13.760 When we say not their place, we don't mean, oh, you go 01:11:13.760 --> 01:11:15.440 over there, you don't know what you're talking about. 01:11:15.440 --> 01:11:17.200 Just be quiet and knit. 01:11:17.200 --> 01:11:22.800 We mean that these things are ugly, they're painful, they're fights, they're 01:11:22.800 --> 01:11:26.800 actual fights that sometimes involve political violence. 01:11:26.800 --> 01:11:28.080 That is not the place for a woman. 01:11:28.800 --> 01:11:32.560 Shouting matches in public are not a place for a woman. 01:11:32.560 --> 01:11:35.920 In politics, sometimes those things happen anyway. 01:11:35.920 --> 01:11:39.440 And that is the reason that women generally wanted no part in 01:11:39.440 --> 01:11:42.320 it. They didn't know, they didn't want to be burdened with it. 01:11:42.320 --> 01:11:44.160 They didn't want to have to deal with it. 01:11:44.160 --> 01:11:45.840 They knew that it stunk. 01:11:45.840 --> 01:11:47.600 They didn't want any part in it. 01:11:47.600 --> 01:11:49.120 It was foisted on them. 01:11:49.120 --> 01:11:51.360 And then at that point it becomes a numbers game. 01:11:51.360 --> 01:11:53.840 Because well, you know, your neighbor down the street, you don't really 01:11:53.840 --> 01:11:56.880 like her her views on things, so even though you don't really 01:11:56.880 --> 01:11:59.840 want to vote, you better go do it because otherwise you you 01:12:00.000 --> 01:12:01.760 gotta counter her vote. 01:12:01.760 --> 01:12:02.080 And 01:12:03.680 --> 01:12:07.520 getting back to the coverture thing towards the beginning, one of the 01:12:07.520 --> 01:12:11.200 essential things that's lost today when we think about 01:12:12.160 --> 01:12:17.280 the woman and her husband becoming legally one is that the voice 01:12:17.280 --> 01:12:19.600 of the household was the husband's voice. 01:12:19.600 --> 01:12:20.880 He was the head. 01:12:20.880 --> 01:12:21.680 He had the mouth. 01:12:22.480 --> 01:12:26.480 If insofar as voting is good at all, the husband voted on 01:12:26.480 --> 01:12:27.840 behalf of his household. 01:12:27.840 --> 01:12:31.840 Why would anyone in his household disagree with him if he is 01:12:31.840 --> 01:12:34.480 a good and faithful husband and father? 01:12:34.480 --> 01:12:37.760 There should be no circumstance under which those under his care and 01:12:37.760 --> 01:12:41.520 protection would vote differently than him if they could vote. 01:12:41.680 --> 01:12:44.960 But once the franchise was given, it became a numbers game. 01:12:44.960 --> 01:12:50.080 And it also became a opportunity for opposition to occur between man 01:12:50.080 --> 01:12:50.880 and wife. 01:12:50.880 --> 01:12:53.760 And you know, today it's pretty normal in a lot of marriages 01:12:53.760 --> 01:12:57.120 for for husbands and wives to know who the other one voted 01:12:57.120 --> 01:12:59.840 for, but not to talk about it because you know in many 01:12:59.840 --> 01:13:02.400 cases you're actually canceling each other's votes out. 01:13:02.400 --> 01:13:04.720 Now in a good marriage that's not the case, but in a 01:13:04.720 --> 01:13:06.800 lot of marriages, that is the case. 01:13:06.800 --> 01:13:09.600 You know better than to ask her who she voted for because 01:13:09.600 --> 01:13:12.160 you know she canceled your vote out. 01:13:12.160 --> 01:13:13.520 What's the win there? 01:13:13.520 --> 01:13:15.280 What is the point of that? 01:13:15.280 --> 01:13:18.000 There's an undermining of your headship. 01:13:18.000 --> 01:13:20.320 There is nullification of your vote. 01:13:20.320 --> 01:13:22.320 Like the whole thing is just preposterous. 01:13:22.320 --> 01:13:26.560 At some point, it just becomes theater, but it's not mindless, meaningless 01:13:26.640 --> 01:13:32.480 theater. It's theatrical performance at the polling booth, but the spirit that 01:13:32.480 --> 01:13:38.400 that voting engenders is fundamentally one of rebellion and independence, which is 01:13:38.400 --> 01:13:40.640 not permissible for anyone. 01:13:40.640 --> 01:13:43.120 To be frank, I don't think men should be allowed to vote. 01:13:43.120 --> 01:13:46.000 And if any men should vote, I don't think I should be 01:13:46.000 --> 01:13:46.640 allowed to vote. 01:13:46.640 --> 01:13:47.680 I don't have children. 01:13:47.680 --> 01:13:51.280 I don't think men without a household should have the franchise. 01:13:51.280 --> 01:13:52.800 I'd be fine with that. 01:13:52.800 --> 01:13:55.040 Now, am I worth listening to? 01:13:55.040 --> 01:13:57.600 Well, I I think so, and some people do. 01:13:57.600 --> 01:13:59.600 But if you don't listen to me, that's fine. 01:13:59.600 --> 01:14:02.480 I don't think that my voting needs to be I don't think 01:14:02.480 --> 01:14:03.600 it's sacrosanct. 01:14:03.600 --> 01:14:07.600 I don't think it it fundamentally changes anything about my participation in 01:14:07.600 --> 01:14:12.080 society. So when we talk about saying that women shouldn't vote, Cory 01:14:12.240 --> 01:14:14.080 and I are not trying to exclude women. 01:14:14.080 --> 01:14:17.120 We both think that there should be monarchy, that there should be 01:14:17.600 --> 01:14:20.960 a godly king and there should be hierarchy and order. 01:14:20.960 --> 01:14:24.800 There are intermediary steps to get there, but voting is not something 01:14:24.800 --> 01:14:26.480 that we find to be sacrosanct. 01:14:26.480 --> 01:14:29.600 It's certainly something that's alien to the Christian faith. 01:14:29.600 --> 01:14:34.080 I mean even i when when the does when they chose the 01:14:34.080 --> 01:14:37.360 replacement for Judas, they cast lots. 01:14:37.360 --> 01:14:42.160 They trusted the Holy Spirit to guide the casting of dice, basically, 01:14:42.160 --> 01:14:43.520 and that was how they decided. 01:14:43.520 --> 01:14:44.560 They let God decide. 01:14:44.560 --> 01:14:49.760 They trusted that the outcome of that sign would be God's will. 01:14:49.760 --> 01:14:51.200 And it was. 01:14:51.200 --> 01:14:54.080 I think that that would be a better form of church governance 01:14:54.080 --> 01:14:55.120 than what we have today. 01:14:55.120 --> 01:14:58.320 I would much rather see congregations if there's something to vote on 01:14:58.320 --> 01:15:01.360 that isn't a matter of doctrine, which obviously shouldn't be voted on 01:15:01.360 --> 01:15:04.960 anyway. I would rather see voting by lot if there's to be 01:15:04.960 --> 01:15:06.240 voting at all. 01:15:06.240 --> 01:15:09.280 I'm not saying that absolutely has to be done, but again, we're 01:15:09.280 --> 01:15:13.680 just trying to point out that these modern, particularly American notions of 01:15:13.680 --> 01:15:17.040 what is we now view as is religious. 01:15:17.040 --> 01:15:20.960 You know, the Declaration of Independence gets quoted by pastors as though 01:15:20.960 --> 01:15:22.000 it's doctrinal. 01:15:22.000 --> 01:15:24.960 It's happened in the Missouri Synod from the very top, where the 01:15:24.960 --> 01:15:28.080 Declaration of Independence is used to make theological points. 01:15:28.080 --> 01:15:31.440 And when Harrison did that, he was making a theological point, but 01:15:31.440 --> 01:15:34.240 as a false prophet, he was making a point on behalf of 01:15:34.240 --> 01:15:36.400 a theology that comes from hell. 01:15:36.400 --> 01:15:39.760 The Declaration of Independence, there's some good things, and I've quoted it 01:15:39.760 --> 01:15:40.480 here before. 01:15:40.480 --> 01:15:45.840 There's some things about enduring a long train of usurpations, even though 01:15:45.840 --> 01:15:50.960 they evince an ultimate goal, because it's better to suffer well while 01:15:51.040 --> 01:15:55.280 there's a chance that forbearance may be rewarded than to have a 01:15:55.280 --> 01:15:58.400 rebellion, because even when it's a godly rebellion, it's still going to 01:15:58.400 --> 01:15:59.280 be awful. 01:15:59.280 --> 01:16:01.680 Christian men never want to see rebellion. 01:16:01.680 --> 01:16:03.920 That's not what we see in abolition. 01:16:03.920 --> 01:16:05.760 It's not what we see in feminism. 01:16:05.760 --> 01:16:10.160 They constantly want to see rebellion against all order. 01:16:10.160 --> 01:16:16.000 And so first wave feminism terminates with everyone getting the vote. 01:16:16.000 --> 01:16:20.160 In the twentieth century, all of its politics were defined by that 01:16:20.160 --> 01:16:23.280 moment because with the ratification of the nineteenth where women got the 01:16:23.280 --> 01:16:26.160 vote and in every other society, it fundamentally changed 01:16:27.040 --> 01:16:32.480 the nature of politics because suddenly the woman's gift to be a 01:16:32.480 --> 01:16:38.880 manager of her household, where peace and accord are paramount, was superimposed 01:16:38.880 --> 01:16:41.200 on a world where that's not how it works. 01:16:41.200 --> 01:16:43.280 In the world there's scarcity. 01:16:43.280 --> 01:16:46.480 In the world there's violence and there are threats. 01:16:46.480 --> 01:16:50.320 The man's job in a household is to keep those threats outside 01:16:50.320 --> 01:16:52.480 the house, to keep them at bay. 01:16:53.200 --> 01:16:56.080 Politics is fundamentally adversarial. 01:16:56.240 --> 01:17:01.280 Sometimes between nations themselves, sometimes internally, but they're often fights. 01:17:01.280 --> 01:17:04.800 Women are not equipped for those fights, and so the twentieth century 01:17:04.800 --> 01:17:10.400 history of politics is defined by women reshaping politics in the image 01:17:10.400 --> 01:17:12.800 of how they want to see the household run. 01:17:12.800 --> 01:17:15.920 And many of the problems that we have today are because women 01:17:15.920 --> 01:17:17.200 are conflict averse. 01:17:17.200 --> 01:17:20.880 And today we have men who are almost universally conflict averse. 01:17:20.880 --> 01:17:24.320 I have tried to have discussions, honest discussions with men face to 01:17:24.320 --> 01:17:29.440 face, where they flatly refuse to speak to me because the alternative 01:17:29.440 --> 01:17:30.880 is to disagree. 01:17:30.880 --> 01:17:32.400 And I'm not talking about picking a fight. 01:17:32.400 --> 01:17:34.400 I'm not saying I want to I want to have an argument. 01:17:34.400 --> 01:17:37.440 I just want to d discuss a matter where there's a disagreement 01:17:37.440 --> 01:17:41.200 between two men, and the other man is terrified to actually disagree 01:17:41.200 --> 01:17:42.080 with me. 01:17:42.080 --> 01:17:44.480 That's such men are eunuchs. 01:17:44.480 --> 01:17:45.440 There's no other word for it. 01:17:45.440 --> 01:17:48.320 That is that is a castrated man that cannot stand in front 01:17:48.320 --> 01:17:50.960 of someone and defend his position. 01:17:50.960 --> 01:17:54.160 Again, we're not talking about being confrontational. 01:17:54.160 --> 01:17:56.800 We're not talking about a knockdown, drag out argument. 01:17:56.800 --> 01:18:00.640 The idea that two people could disagree about something and then discuss 01:18:00.640 --> 01:18:03.680 it civilly is something that women don't want. 01:18:03.680 --> 01:18:07.680 It they would rather have peace, even if it means chopping off 01:18:07.680 --> 01:18:11.200 legs and just making everyone the same height, and silencing anything that's 01:18:11.200 --> 01:18:14.480 going to cause discord in the home. 01:18:14.480 --> 01:18:17.280 Some of that can work in some cases. 01:18:17.280 --> 01:18:22.400 Societally, civilizationally at large, it is guaranteed to cause evil outcomes. 01:18:22.400 --> 01:18:26.960 And so giving women the vote wasn't simply a matter of doubling 01:18:26.960 --> 01:18:29.360 the number of voters so you needed more ballots. 01:18:29.360 --> 01:18:34.640 It fundamentally changed forever the nature of the appeals made by politicians 01:18:34.640 --> 01:18:36.880 and the nature of what was being voted on and what the 01:18:36.880 --> 01:18:38.400 ultimate outcomes would be. 01:18:38.400 --> 01:18:42.240 We see that today in in American politics, where you look at 01:18:42.720 --> 01:18:47.280 if only men voted versus only women voted, you have diametrically opposed 01:18:47.280 --> 01:18:51.760 outcomes in the presidential elections That is a profound statement. 01:18:51.840 --> 01:18:54.000 It's a theological statement. 01:18:54.000 --> 01:18:57.920 It's there's there's no way in which a world, a society can 01:18:57.920 --> 01:19:01.440 work where men and women are so diametrically opposed. 01:19:01.440 --> 01:19:04.880 And the only solution for that, the only godly solution, is for 01:19:04.880 --> 01:19:08.320 women to return to their proper sphere in the home. 01:19:08.320 --> 01:19:11.600 You know, m repeatedly is as I quoted some of these things, 01:19:11.600 --> 01:19:15.360 the claim is made by the feminists that men created these spheres. 01:19:15.360 --> 01:19:17.920 We did an entire episode, we did one hundred and five minutes 01:19:17.920 --> 01:19:21.040 about how God ordained these spheres for us. 01:19:21.040 --> 01:19:26.000 The woman's household and the man's household are internal and external. 01:19:26.000 --> 01:19:28.480 He rules, but she governs within it. 01:19:28.480 --> 01:19:31.360 He deals with the outside matters and then inside when he needs 01:19:31.360 --> 01:19:34.640 to, and the rest of the time, that's her domain, not to 01:19:34.640 --> 01:19:36.800 his exclusion, but as his helper. 01:19:36.800 --> 01:19:41.280 Everything that's happened in the feminist world is an inversion and a 01:19:41.280 --> 01:19:44.320 subversion of that to the point that now men are afraid to 01:19:44.320 --> 01:19:46.960 do their jobs and women don't even know what their jobs are. 01:19:46.960 --> 01:19:49.440 They're just gonna do everything and no one will stop them. 01:19:49.440 --> 01:19:52.320 And when a man does stand up and say, actually scripture says 01:19:52.320 --> 01:19:53.440 we should do the opposite. 01:19:53.440 --> 01:19:55.120 Maybe we should take that seriously. 01:19:55.120 --> 01:19:59.280 Those men are punished in the most harsh means imaginable because such 01:19:59.280 --> 01:20:03.040 a man is a threat to the prince of this world. 01:20:03.120 --> 01:20:07.840 And so following on from first wave feminism is of course second 01:20:07.840 --> 01:20:12.240 wave feminism, which is really the genesis of a lot of the 01:20:12.240 --> 01:20:14.240 evils we see today. 01:20:14.240 --> 01:20:19.360 Yes, you need that superstructure into which to slot these things and 01:20:19.520 --> 01:20:24.000 Because a lot of these things were pushed through political means. 01:20:24.000 --> 01:20:24.320 But 01:20:25.920 --> 01:20:32.320 the proximate genesis, the start of these evils that are now bearing 01:20:32.320 --> 01:20:38.000 their ultimate fruit today in what is called fourth wave feminism start 01:20:38.000 --> 01:20:41.840 in the sixties and the eighties with second wave feminism. 01:20:41.840 --> 01:20:48.320 And whereas first wave feminism focused largely on so-called political issues, although 01:20:48.400 --> 01:20:53.760 yes, it followed on from the political slash social issue of abolitionism. 01:20:53.760 --> 01:20:58.560 Second wave feminism really focuses on the social issues. 01:20:58.560 --> 01:21:04.880 And that becomes family dynamics, the relationship of man and woman, the 01:21:04.880 --> 01:21:12.160 domesticity of woman, reproduction rights, so-called, woman's participation in the workforce, 01:21:12.160 --> 01:21:16.480 and the structuring of the family and of course, because this is 01:21:16.480 --> 01:21:21.360 always one of Satan's goals with feminism, in whatever form and wherever 01:21:21.360 --> 01:21:25.680 it crops up, human sexuality becomes one of the major issues, and 01:21:25.680 --> 01:21:29.280 that, of course, is what leads to birth control and abortion. 01:21:29.680 --> 01:21:34.720 And this dichotomy is important because the second wave feminism, you know, 01:21:34.720 --> 01:21:38.080 the subsequent generations basically what happened, you had You had first wave 01:21:38.080 --> 01:21:42.720 feminism sort of firing up in the 1840s or 50s and carrying 01:21:42.720 --> 01:21:45.840 on through the ratification of the 19th Amendment. 01:21:45.840 --> 01:21:50.000 By the 20s, there wasn't really anything left for them to do. 01:21:50.000 --> 01:21:53.840 And so there th there was this weird lull between the generations 01:21:53.840 --> 01:21:55.680 where they had one political power. 01:21:55.680 --> 01:22:00.000 They had one basically the man's power outside of the home to 01:22:00.000 --> 01:22:02.640 vote. And that was their initial goal to get them as them 01:22:02.800 --> 01:22:07.040 as first order participants in political society. 01:22:07.040 --> 01:22:10.640 Then there was a lull of 30 years or so where there 01:22:10.640 --> 01:22:12.240 wasn't much more for them to do. 01:22:12.240 --> 01:22:16.080 And it was very interesting because today one of the punchlines for 01:22:16.080 --> 01:22:22.960 second and third wave feminism is the June Cleaver 1950s homemaker. 01:22:22.960 --> 01:22:26.640 You'll hear the 50s come up over and over again from modern 01:22:26.640 --> 01:22:32.560 feminists as the pinnacle of patriarchal repression. 01:22:32.560 --> 01:22:36.480 What's fascinating about that, I I for researching for this episode, I 01:22:36.480 --> 01:22:39.440 listened to several hours of feminists on YouTube. 01:22:39.440 --> 01:22:40.160 Yeah, you can 01:22:41.120 --> 01:22:43.920 you can you can pray for my soul for having to endure 01:22:43.920 --> 01:22:47.120 that. But I found it to be fascinating because 01:22:48.080 --> 01:22:50.000 they're very open about what they did. 01:22:50.000 --> 01:22:52.480 And one of the things that but one of the things they 01:22:52.480 --> 01:22:57.600 lie about, it just as Stanton and the others lied about man 01:22:57.600 --> 01:23:01.840 creating the sphere of the home and the household for women. 01:23:01.840 --> 01:23:06.160 Today the feminist lie is that man really repeated the same thing, 01:23:06.400 --> 01:23:10.560 created that sphere of the household for women and the fifties was 01:23:10.560 --> 01:23:11.920 when that was invented. 01:23:11.920 --> 01:23:15.680 That that's really fundamentally what they I think some of them believe 01:23:15.680 --> 01:23:18.640 it. I I think they think the history didn't exist before that 01:23:18.960 --> 01:23:22.480 because what happened in the fifties is the same thing that happened 01:23:22.480 --> 01:23:24.080 in the forties and the thirties and twenties. 01:23:24.080 --> 01:23:26.400 And it always happened in Christian societies. 01:23:26.400 --> 01:23:28.080 Women were homemakers. 01:23:28.080 --> 01:23:32.640 In the fifties they were just they were beginning to be exposed 01:23:32.640 --> 01:23:37.760 more to public media, to TV as it at the very you 01:23:37.760 --> 01:23:40.560 know the TV was just sort of nascent at that point, but 01:23:40.560 --> 01:23:44.880 radio and many magazines specifically focusing on women for the sake of 01:23:44.880 --> 01:23:46.560 propagandizing them. 01:23:46.560 --> 01:23:52.480 And so there became a homogeneity of of dress and of the 01:23:52.480 --> 01:23:54.480 use of makeup and hair. 01:23:54.480 --> 01:23:58.640 And that's the version of the 50s woman that is really despised 01:23:58.640 --> 01:24:00.080 by the feminist today. 01:24:00.080 --> 01:24:04.400 It's also what's held up today on the right hand political sphere 01:24:04.560 --> 01:24:06.080 as sort of trad. 01:24:06.080 --> 01:24:09.520 You know, there there's kind of that it it's a straw man 01:24:09.600 --> 01:24:12.160 almost almost as being held up by both sides. 01:24:12.160 --> 01:24:15.840 Where on the right you'll have them saying the fifties woman in 01:24:15.840 --> 01:24:19.280 the you know the traditional dress that's knee length and she has 01:24:19.280 --> 01:24:21.600 her hair done up and she has a drink ready for her 01:24:21.600 --> 01:24:23.040 husband when he comes home. 01:24:23.040 --> 01:24:26.160 The right says that's trad, that's exactly what it should have always 01:24:26.160 --> 01:24:29.600 been. And the left says that's horrible, that's patriarchy, that's the worst 01:24:29.600 --> 01:24:32.640 possible form of human society. 01:24:32.640 --> 01:24:37.200 Both of them are missing the point that that wasn't unusual, except 01:24:37.200 --> 01:24:40.720 for the mass media influence on how th they all sort of 01:24:40.720 --> 01:24:42.320 behaved in similar ways. 01:24:42.320 --> 01:24:45.200 And of course that was also a function of of wealth because 01:24:45.200 --> 01:24:47.600 there were very poor people in in those days who had none 01:24:47.600 --> 01:24:49.760 of that because you know, they were poor. 01:24:49.760 --> 01:24:51.520 My mom's family in Appalachia 01:24:52.640 --> 01:24:54.240 had none of that. 01:24:54.560 --> 01:24:57.280 they were you know, they literally lived on dirt floors. 01:24:57.280 --> 01:25:01.280 They did not have the cocktail waiting for my my drunken grandfather 01:25:01.280 --> 01:25:03.520 when he came home with a belt. 01:25:03.520 --> 01:25:09.520 However, as something that's being held up as an example of either 01:25:09.520 --> 01:25:13.600 love or hate, it's really an it's an anachronistic view of what 01:25:13.600 --> 01:25:17.200 happened because that was just the first time the mass media was 01:25:17.200 --> 01:25:20.080 encompassing that life for us all to see today. 01:25:20.080 --> 01:25:24.080 So we have lots of pictures and drawings and ads showing that. 01:25:24.080 --> 01:25:25.280 And they're visually appealing. 01:25:25.280 --> 01:25:27.600 And so everyone wants to latch onto it. 01:25:27.600 --> 01:25:33.840 But the reason that the second wave of feminism got riled up 01:25:34.080 --> 01:25:36.720 was that they started realizing that 01:25:38.000 --> 01:25:39.920 the revolution wasn't over. 01:25:39.920 --> 01:25:42.880 And as it as it wound up in the 60s, again with 01:25:43.360 --> 01:25:50.880 revolutions worldwide, you have communist revolutions sweeping the European continent, 01:25:50.880 --> 01:25:54.160 just as you had revolutions in the in eighteen forty eight and 01:25:54.240 --> 01:25:58.800 you know nineteen thirteen, fourteen, fifteen with World War One, we again 01:25:58.800 --> 01:26:03.040 have this paroxysm of revolution, violent revolution, in other places, and there 01:26:03.040 --> 01:26:04.240 was violence here as well. 01:26:04.240 --> 01:26:08.960 The sixties were marked by radical violence that's beyond even what we've 01:26:08.960 --> 01:26:11.200 seen in recent history today. 01:26:11.200 --> 01:26:14.160 That uh that's gonna change, but it's the same spirit, just it's 01:26:14.160 --> 01:26:14.800 a revolution. 01:26:14.800 --> 01:26:17.280 It comes back again and again. 01:26:17.280 --> 01:26:20.160 Second wave feminism said, well we got the vote, but as Corey 01:26:20.240 --> 01:26:22.640 as you just said, what about the household? 01:26:22.640 --> 01:26:24.240 What about June Cleaver? 01:26:24.240 --> 01:26:25.360 We need to liberate her. 01:26:25.360 --> 01:26:27.760 It's not enough that June can vote. 01:26:27.760 --> 01:26:30.720 She needs to put down the cocktail glass for her husband. 01:26:30.720 --> 01:26:33.680 She needs to let down her hair and burn her bra and 01:26:33.680 --> 01:26:36.560 take off that dress and put on some pants and leave the 01:26:36.560 --> 01:26:38.800 house and go do what she wants to do. 01:26:38.800 --> 01:26:42.720 So the spheres are important in their dialectic because 01:26:43.600 --> 01:26:45.520 that's what they need to destroy. 01:26:45.520 --> 01:26:49.040 First the man's sphere outside the home, and then the woman's fear 01:26:49.040 --> 01:26:53.680 inside the home, both being destroyed and inverted simultaneously such that nothing 01:26:53.680 --> 01:26:54.640 can remain. 01:26:54.640 --> 01:26:59.440 You can never have the June Cleaver version of the woman again. 01:26:59.440 --> 01:27:02.640 It's a it's a it's something that the right holds up as 01:27:02.640 --> 01:27:04.640 a model and the left holds up as 01:27:05.680 --> 01:27:08.240 basically the woman version of Hitler. 01:27:08.240 --> 01:27:12.080 Nothing could possibly be worse than that sort of woman who actually 01:27:12.080 --> 01:27:14.080 cares about looking good for her husband. 01:27:14.080 --> 01:27:16.800 And so it's a punchline because I don't want you to return 01:27:16.800 --> 01:27:17.520 to that. 01:27:17.520 --> 01:27:20.560 But it's not just return to that, it's a return to the 01:27:20.560 --> 01:27:23.360 faithfulness that those women were still trying to maintain. 01:27:23.360 --> 01:27:26.880 Because even though there'd been a lot of worldliness in the intervening 01:27:26.880 --> 01:27:31.040 decades after women's suffrage, they were still by and large not working 01:27:31.040 --> 01:27:32.240 outside the home. 01:27:32.240 --> 01:27:35.600 They were still fundamentally domestic. 01:27:35.600 --> 01:27:40.240 And second wave was designed to overthrow domesticity because that is how 01:27:40.240 --> 01:27:43.360 you get women out of the home, and it's how you burn 01:27:43.360 --> 01:27:47.040 bras and burn veils and put them on the birth control pill. 01:27:47.040 --> 01:27:50.560 And as you said, Corey, then you get the sexual revolution. 01:27:50.560 --> 01:27:53.520 Cause when she leaves the supervision of her household, whether it's her 01:27:53.520 --> 01:27:54.560 father or her husband, 01:27:55.440 --> 01:27:58.000 suddenly there's no one supervising her. 01:27:58.000 --> 01:28:02.880 And if she can't get pregnant, she can do whatever she wants. 01:28:02.880 --> 01:28:06.160 She can be sexually liberated, which was Which was one of the 01:28:06.160 --> 01:28:07.920 ultimate goals of all of this. 01:28:07.920 --> 01:28:13.440 Eliminating dependence financially and eliminating dependence in terms of headship and then 01:28:13.440 --> 01:28:16.160 eliminating any sort of headship at all. 01:28:16.160 --> 01:28:18.880 Eliminating the idea that a woman would be told by a man 01:28:18.880 --> 01:28:20.640 what to do or what not to do. 01:28:20.640 --> 01:28:24.000 To the point that today when we say that maybe it's actually 01:28:24.000 --> 01:28:26.960 scriptural that a man would tell a woman what to do or 01:28:26.960 --> 01:28:29.760 what not to do, if he's her head, not saying that I 01:28:29.760 --> 01:28:31.760 can go around telling women what to do if I don't know 01:28:31.760 --> 01:28:34.320 them, if she's not my relative, it's not my business. 01:28:34.320 --> 01:28:38.000 It is, however, the state's business, which is why Christian nationalism is 01:28:38.000 --> 01:28:41.440 important. See, these hierarchies still need to exist. 01:28:41.440 --> 01:28:45.360 And feminism is ensured that we chip away one layer after another 01:28:45.520 --> 01:28:50.640 until nothing can exist between unfettered man and all of his wildest 01:28:50.640 --> 01:28:54.240 desires. That's what Satan promised in the garden and it's what we're 01:28:54.240 --> 01:28:55.360 getting today. 01:28:55.360 --> 01:28:58.640 And the reason that the consequences are horrible is that those are 01:28:58.640 --> 01:29:01.600 the fruits of the most poisonous tree. 01:29:02.000 --> 01:29:07.760 We really see a cycle of revolutions, of uprisings, throughout history, as 01:29:07.760 --> 01:29:14.080 Satan attempts to overthrow one sort of hierarchy in order after another. 01:29:14.080 --> 01:29:18.000 He doesn't always succeed, sometimes he is repulsed and pushed back. 01:29:18.000 --> 01:29:23.280 The revolutions of eighteen forty eight, as mentioned, were not overall successful. 01:29:23.280 --> 01:29:26.720 Germany is a good example of this. 01:29:26.720 --> 01:29:32.480 And even for those who maybe knew about the revolution of 1848 01:29:32.560 --> 01:29:36.880 called the the March Revolution, typically in German, as you'll you'll know 01:29:36.880 --> 01:29:38.880 why in a minute here. 01:29:38.880 --> 01:29:42.240 Even those who know about that typically don't know about the revolution 01:29:42.240 --> 01:29:45.200 that followed World War One. 01:29:45.200 --> 01:29:49.200 The revolution of eighteen forty eight, eighteen forty-nine was put down, and 01:29:49.200 --> 01:29:52.800 actually, if you know what I of Bismarck's most famous quotes it 01:29:52.800 --> 01:29:58.240 references that his rather through iron and blood quote references the March 01:29:58.240 --> 01:30:03.600 Revolution, but following on the March Revolution and some of those who 01:30:03.840 --> 01:30:08.960 some who lost, some who won left Germany in the the ensuing 01:30:08.960 --> 01:30:13.760 chaos and came to the US called the forty eighters. 01:30:13.760 --> 01:30:17.840 But the revolution that followed on World War I was the November 01:30:17.840 --> 01:30:22.480 Revolution, and that was between nineteen eighteen and nineteen nineteen. 01:30:22.480 --> 01:30:28.160 And that was the revolution that overthrew basically destroyed the German Empire, 01:30:28.160 --> 01:30:32.640 destroyed destroyed the traditional form of government in Germany and led to 01:30:32.640 --> 01:30:34.480 the Weimar Republic. 01:30:34.480 --> 01:30:38.160 And of course it was the weakness of the Weimar Republic that 01:30:38.160 --> 01:30:42.880 led to chaos and in part World War II, yes, that's more 01:30:42.880 --> 01:30:47.200 complicated subject for another time, another place. 01:30:47.200 --> 01:30:47.360 But 01:30:48.560 --> 01:30:54.240 Satan managed with the revolution of 1918 what he did not managed 01:30:54.160 --> 01:30:59.040 to do with the revolution of eighteen forty eight. 01:30:59.040 --> 01:31:05.120 He brought chaos and a dissolution of proper order and hierarchy to 01:31:05.120 --> 01:31:08.160 the heart of Europe and it spread from there. 01:31:08.160 --> 01:31:11.280 Yes, there were other revolutions at the same time in other parts. 01:31:11.280 --> 01:31:16.800 Obviously, the Russian Revolution is pertinent here. 01:31:16.800 --> 01:31:22.720 But you see following on from feminism and what happened with 01:31:23.680 --> 01:31:27.760 in the US abolitionism and also feminism, but what happened with the 01:31:27.760 --> 01:31:33.120 feminists leading into additional revolution and the destruction of more and more, 01:31:33.120 --> 01:31:35.120 because Satan is never happy. 01:31:35.120 --> 01:31:38.320 Satan is never sated, Satan is never pleased. 01:31:38.320 --> 01:31:42.560 He will always try to destroy any vestige of good, anything that 01:31:42.560 --> 01:31:49.440 is left, that doesn't conform to his image, which is just corruption 01:31:49.680 --> 01:31:52.960 and opposition to God. 01:31:52.960 --> 01:31:57.120 And we're not really going to deal with third and fourth wave 01:31:57.120 --> 01:32:02.480 feminism particularly in a in a lengthy way because we're currently living 01:32:02.480 --> 01:32:03.360 the fourth wave. 01:32:03.360 --> 01:32:07.360 We all know what happens with fourth wave feminism. 01:32:07.360 --> 01:32:13.120 But it is worth mentioning it is worth highlighting a a core 01:32:13.120 --> 01:32:18.880 difference, as it were, between what is now called fourth wave and 01:32:18.880 --> 01:32:24.080 the previous waves of feminism, because it was always an ultimate goal 01:32:24.080 --> 01:32:28.400 of feminism, but it was not laid out early on. 01:32:28.400 --> 01:32:32.640 Because the intelligence, the animating intelligence behind feminism, saw where it was 01:32:32.640 --> 01:32:35.840 going, knew what he wanted to achieve, but many of his human 01:32:35.840 --> 01:32:38.560 actors may not have seen it along the way, undoubtedly most of 01:32:38.560 --> 01:32:39.520 them did not. 01:32:39.520 --> 01:32:43.760 Perhaps some of them had some conception, the most wicked ones may 01:32:43.760 --> 01:32:46.080 have wanted to achieve this, but 01:32:47.040 --> 01:32:52.160 one of the active goals of fourth wave feminism now is the 01:32:52.160 --> 01:32:56.960 destruction of what it means to be a man or a woman. 01:32:56.960 --> 01:33:00.720 Not just the destruction of the roles of men and women in 01:33:00.720 --> 01:33:04.880 society in the home, the relationship between men and women, but the 01:33:04.880 --> 01:33:07.920 destruction of masculinity, femininity, what it means 01:33:09.280 --> 01:33:11.520 to be by nature male or female. 01:33:11.520 --> 01:33:13.520 And that's why we have the transgender movement. 01:33:13.520 --> 01:33:16.720 That is fourth wave feminism. 01:33:16.720 --> 01:33:18.880 And so there was a pivot to some degree. 01:33:18.880 --> 01:33:23.680 You have some feminists now who write about men and masculinity instead 01:33:23.680 --> 01:33:27.440 of writing about women and women's issues so called. 01:33:27.440 --> 01:33:31.200 Because the goal is to destroy what it means to be a 01:33:31.200 --> 01:33:35.520 man because if you have no men, well you can never roll 01:33:35.520 --> 01:33:40.000 back all of these supposed gains, this progress of feminism. 01:33:40.000 --> 01:33:41.680 Because there's no one to stand against it. 01:33:41.680 --> 01:33:44.320 There's no one to stand up in opposition and say these things 01:33:44.320 --> 01:33:44.640 are wrong. 01:33:44.640 --> 01:33:46.160 They disagree with scripture. 01:33:46.160 --> 01:33:50.160 We cannot do this if you destroy men and if you destroy 01:33:50.160 --> 01:33:53.920 masculinity, which they have done quite an effective job thus far. 01:33:53.920 --> 01:33:57.760 There are not very many actually masculine men left in the world 01:33:58.080 --> 01:34:00.880 at this point. 01:34:00.880 --> 01:34:04.720 But that's why you'll see some modern feminist writers who will try 01:34:04.720 --> 01:34:08.560 to argue that well men should be more emotional, should express their 01:34:08.560 --> 01:34:12.480 emotions more in public, should cry, should do all these various things. 01:34:12.480 --> 01:34:17.040 If you are a man, now Woe may want to add a 01:34:17.040 --> 01:34:20.720 comment onto this or disagree in part, but for me, my position 01:34:20.720 --> 01:34:21.440 is very clear. 01:34:21.440 --> 01:34:24.800 If you are a man, you generally should not be crying and 01:34:24.800 --> 01:34:29.200 expressing these things in public, with the exception of a handful of 01:34:29.200 --> 01:34:33.200 situations, which would be the death of a close relative, the death 01:34:33.200 --> 01:34:36.640 of your dog, or the passion of Christ. 01:34:36.640 --> 01:34:39.840 Those you're allowed to cry for those, that's it. 01:34:39.840 --> 01:34:43.120 But there is a difference between what it means to be a 01:34:43.120 --> 01:34:46.240 woman and what it means to be a man, and the goal 01:34:46.240 --> 01:34:49.680 is to destroy that with fourth wave feminism, it is to make 01:34:49.920 --> 01:34:56.960 instead of humanity sexually and psychologically spiritually dimorphic as God created 01:34:56.960 --> 01:35:03.360 us, it is to make some androgynous new man where it doesn't 01:35:03.280 --> 01:35:06.720 matter how you were born, what parts you have, all of that 01:35:06.720 --> 01:35:11.040 is irrelevant because ultimately of course their goal is to make it 01:35:11.040 --> 01:35:15.600 so that you can put off being physically physically male and become 01:35:15.600 --> 01:35:18.880 physically female the same as you would put on or off a 01:35:18.880 --> 01:35:20.160 new suit. 01:35:20.160 --> 01:35:21.440 Now they won't get there. 01:35:21.440 --> 01:35:22.480 They won't achieve it. 01:35:22.480 --> 01:35:23.520 But that's their goal. 01:35:23.520 --> 01:35:27.200 That is the the reality, that is the mindset of the enemies 01:35:27.200 --> 01:35:28.800 we are facing. 01:35:28.800 --> 01:35:34.240 They think that the science fiction they've been reading, where you can 01:35:34.240 --> 01:35:38.000 just swap bodies, where you can become whatever it is you want 01:35:38.000 --> 01:35:38.320 to be. 01:35:38.320 --> 01:35:40.480 Instead of, I don't feel like being a human today, I'll be 01:35:40.480 --> 01:35:41.840 a wolf today. 01:35:41.840 --> 01:35:44.640 They think that that's a reality, and they will fight tooth and 01:35:44.640 --> 01:35:48.080 nail and they will burn everything to the ground in an attempt 01:35:48.080 --> 01:35:49.600 to get there. 01:35:49.600 --> 01:35:52.640 And that's fourth wave feminism. 01:35:52.640 --> 01:35:57.360 That's why you have to oppose third wave and second wave and 01:35:57.360 --> 01:36:02.320 first wave and protofeminism, because it leads inevitably to where we are 01:36:02.320 --> 01:36:06.720 today. We are living in the aftermath of centuries 01:36:07.600 --> 01:36:11.520 of virtually unopposed feminism. 01:36:11.520 --> 01:36:15.440 Now there were times in history where these revolutions were put down, 01:36:15.440 --> 01:36:19.120 where Christians stood up and said, No, we will not permit this, 01:36:19.120 --> 01:36:21.280 this cannot be done, this is wicked. 01:36:21.280 --> 01:36:25.120 A great example would be the peasants revolt in the fifteen hundreds 01:36:25.120 --> 01:36:25.920 in Germany. 01:36:25.920 --> 01:36:30.320 That was one of the first times where Satan really pushed hard. 01:36:30.320 --> 01:36:33.520 In the aftermath of the Reformation, he saw that perhaps there was 01:36:33.520 --> 01:36:38.000 an opportunity here to overthrow rightful hierarchy. 01:36:38.000 --> 01:36:42.160 Because some of the peasants got it into their mind that because 01:36:43.360 --> 01:36:44.800 the Protestants had rejected 01:36:46.000 --> 01:36:50.560 Roman so called authority because of Rome's transgressions, that well we should 01:36:50.560 --> 01:36:53.360 be allowed to reject all authority. 01:36:53.360 --> 01:36:54.800 Because that's the spirit. 01:36:54.800 --> 01:36:55.920 That's always the spirit. 01:36:55.920 --> 01:36:58.160 It's always to push always for more. 01:36:58.400 --> 01:37:03.360 And so they attempted to overthrow their barons and their lords and 01:37:03.360 --> 01:37:04.800 all hierarchy. 01:37:04.800 --> 01:37:09.360 They wanted to completely destroy the government, basically create anarchy. 01:37:09.360 --> 01:37:13.520 And they succeeded in creating anarchy in certain states, where imperial forces 01:37:13.520 --> 01:37:16.240 had to be called in to put them down at the cost 01:37:16.240 --> 01:37:19.600 of quite a bit of blood and treasure. 01:37:19.600 --> 01:37:20.960 But that was put down. 01:37:20.960 --> 01:37:25.280 Martin Luther actually wrote against the peasants in this case, it's worth 01:37:25.280 --> 01:37:28.240 reading. I'll put a link to it in the show notes. 01:37:28.240 --> 01:37:34.400 I believe I have an English translation that's not encumbered by copyright. 01:37:34.400 --> 01:37:35.360 But that was put down. 01:37:35.360 --> 01:37:37.840 That time Satan tried and he failed. 01:37:37.840 --> 01:37:41.520 eighteen forty eight, he tried again, that failed. 01:37:41.520 --> 01:37:44.720 nineteen eighteen, he tried and he succeeded. 01:37:44.720 --> 01:37:48.160 And he succeeded in a lot of the Western world with those 01:37:48.160 --> 01:37:53.760 revolutions, and we are still living through the aftermath of that today. 01:37:53.760 --> 01:37:58.160 And the thing is even Christians today who will point out that 01:37:58.160 --> 01:38:00.800 there were problems with those revolutions, which I would hope so because 01:38:00.800 --> 01:38:02.560 many of them were effectively communist revolutions 01:38:04.240 --> 01:38:09.200 they won't go so far as to say that the intellectual forebears 01:38:09.680 --> 01:38:13.600 of those revolutions were also wicked, and we're right back to the 01:38:13.600 --> 01:38:16.160 idea of the wicked tree. 01:38:16.160 --> 01:38:22.240 If the fruit is poisonous, evil, then the tree is poisonous and 01:38:22.240 --> 01:38:26.480 evil. You cannot say, Well, I won't eat this fruit off the 01:38:26.480 --> 01:38:28.320 poisonous tree, but I'll eat that one. 01:38:28.320 --> 01:38:32.800 They're all poisonous, because the poisonous tree bears only poisonous fruit, and 01:38:32.800 --> 01:38:37.360 the poisonous fruit came from a poisonous tree. 01:38:37.360 --> 01:38:40.720 And so you cannot as a Christian say, Well, I oppose the 01:38:40.720 --> 01:38:46.560 communist revolutions, but I don't oppose feminism and egalitarianism and all of 01:38:46.560 --> 01:38:51.120 these various things, liberty in the conception of the French Revolution and 01:38:51.120 --> 01:38:54.000 in the conception of the American Revolution. 01:38:54.000 --> 01:38:57.840 If you say you don't oppose these things as well, all you're 01:38:57.840 --> 01:39:00.560 doing is saying, I want to return to the point where Satan 01:39:00.560 --> 01:39:03.760 only ruled us from the shadows instead of openly. 01:39:03.760 --> 01:39:06.240 And that is not a Christian position. 01:39:06.240 --> 01:39:10.480 And so as Christians, we have to oppose all of these things 01:39:10.640 --> 01:39:14.160 because we have to stand on scripture, on God's word, on what 01:39:14.160 --> 01:39:18.560 God has told us, on what he has done in creation, the 01:39:18.560 --> 01:39:22.800 order that he has created, the rightful hierarchy he has instilled, these 01:39:22.800 --> 01:39:25.360 are the things that we have to defend. 01:39:25.360 --> 01:39:29.200 We do not get to defect from the truth because we don't 01:39:29.120 --> 01:39:32.560 like this particular truth, because this one makes us uncomfortable, because society 01:39:32.560 --> 01:39:36.720 says you cannot hold these views because society says if you hold 01:39:36.720 --> 01:39:39.280 those views we will persecute you. 01:39:39.280 --> 01:39:41.920 Because those who fall away during persecution 01:39:42.960 --> 01:39:46.000 you don't inherit eternal life. 01:39:46.000 --> 01:39:48.960 Because it says those who persevere to the end. 01:39:48.960 --> 01:39:53.040 And so as Christians, we have to take a stand on these 01:39:53.120 --> 01:39:55.680 issues, on all of these issues. 01:39:55.680 --> 01:39:57.520 Not just push back a little. 01:39:57.520 --> 01:40:00.400 You don't just push back against the most recent evil. 01:40:00.400 --> 01:40:06.080 As has often been said, conservatives today politically are just liberals or 01:40:06.080 --> 01:40:08.400 leftists going the speed limit. 01:40:08.400 --> 01:40:14.240 And so that often plays out in our political sphere, in our 01:40:14.240 --> 01:40:20.400 government, you will have the so-called conservative parties are just 20, 30, 01:40:20.400 --> 01:40:24.560 maybe 40 years behind the left parties. 01:40:24.560 --> 01:40:27.760 And we have Christians doing the same thing in the church. 01:40:27.760 --> 01:40:33.040 You have the ones with the so-called rainbow, it's not a rainbow, 01:40:33.040 --> 01:40:36.880 it's missing a color, the so-called rainbow flag, the BLM flag, all 01:40:36.880 --> 01:40:39.760 these various things festooning these beautiful buildings that were built to the 01:40:39.760 --> 01:40:43.680 glory of God and now serve as sanctuaries for Satan, but you 01:40:43.680 --> 01:40:48.480 have these buildings full of pastors so called, many of whom are 01:40:48.480 --> 01:40:55.440 women now, proclaiming that they are Christian, and then lying in God's 01:40:55.440 --> 01:40:58.880 name, and proclaiming immense wickedness. 01:40:58.880 --> 01:41:04.640 Today it's going to be transgenderism and anti-racism and all the various 01:41:04.640 --> 01:41:08.880 talking points of the Marxists, but down the street, you'll have a 01:41:08.880 --> 01:41:13.040 supposedly sound Christian church proclaiming 01:41:14.080 --> 01:41:18.000 the proto versions of all of the same wickedness just from a 01:41:18.000 --> 01:41:19.440 century ago. 01:41:19.440 --> 01:41:22.640 Sure the Christians are taking a little longer to catch up than 01:41:22.640 --> 01:41:26.640 the political realm did, but they're doing it more quickly. 01:41:26.640 --> 01:41:31.520 And so you'll have Christians who are preaching abolitionism, and egalitarianism, and 01:41:31.520 --> 01:41:37.040 mutual submission, and a litany of a thousand other evils. 01:41:37.040 --> 01:41:39.440 That is not faithfulness to God. 01:41:39.440 --> 01:41:44.000 Pushing back against only the most recent wickedness of the culture, the 01:41:44.000 --> 01:41:48.000 most recent thing that Satan happens to be propping up is not 01:41:48.000 --> 01:41:51.520 faithfulness. Yes, if you are pos if you are opposing the place 01:41:51.520 --> 01:41:55.120 where Satan is attacking, that is faithfulness. 01:41:55.120 --> 01:41:58.880 But not if you've let him into your camp, and he's living 01:41:58.880 --> 01:42:04.400 beside you, which is what we are doing today as supposed Christians. 01:42:04.400 --> 01:42:09.760 And that's why we addressed all of the various forms of feminism. 01:42:09.760 --> 01:42:12.480 The yes, we didn't go into detail on the third and the 01:42:12.480 --> 01:42:15.680 fourth wave because you're living in it now. 01:42:15.680 --> 01:42:18.400 You know what it is. 01:42:18.400 --> 01:42:23.120 But the reason you start with the enlightenment, and even before that, 01:42:23.120 --> 01:42:27.600 the reason you start with protofeminism is because that is the wicked 01:42:27.600 --> 01:42:31.840 tree. You cannot eat from the wicked tree. 01:42:31.840 --> 01:42:37.040 If you approve anything that comes from Satan instead of from God, 01:42:37.040 --> 01:42:42.000 you are in rebellion to God, and you will eventually end up 01:42:42.000 --> 01:42:45.280 where we are today and worse. 01:42:45.280 --> 01:42:45.520 To 01:42:45.520 --> 01:42:49.760 be clear, we're only talking about the last 300 years, which is 01:42:49.760 --> 01:42:54.480 Christians matter, because the Christian church has been around for 2,000 years, 01:42:54.480 --> 01:42:58.160 and the Christian faith has been around for 6,000 years. 01:42:58.160 --> 01:43:02.640 So when Corey and I point back to Scripture and to history 01:43:02.800 --> 01:43:07.760 prior to the Enlightenment, I hope that those are convincing arguments to 01:43:07.760 --> 01:43:11.040 you. I hope that as a Christian in the twenty first century 01:43:11.280 --> 01:43:18.480 you can understand that if your personally held, strongly held moral convictions 01:43:19.120 --> 01:43:22.800 are fruits of the Enlightenment, such that they were alien to every 01:43:22.800 --> 01:43:27.120 Christian for fifty-seven hundred years, I would hope that that fills you 01:43:27.120 --> 01:43:28.400 with profound dread. 01:43:28.400 --> 01:43:29.440 That's our goal. 01:43:29.440 --> 01:43:33.680 Yeah, if you hold some of these beliefs and it's in good 01:43:33.680 --> 01:43:36.880 conscience, and we tell you, did you know that no Christians for 01:43:36.880 --> 01:43:40.240 fifty, seven hundred years believed what you believe, and in fact, scripture 01:43:40.880 --> 01:43:44.880 and every believer in heaven teaches and believe the opposite of what 01:43:44.880 --> 01:43:46.880 it is that you're saying today. 01:43:46.880 --> 01:43:47.200 That 01:43:48.160 --> 01:43:50.080 is important. 01:43:50.080 --> 01:43:51.520 I don't else say it. 01:43:51.520 --> 01:43:56.560 Like that is the essence of the continuity of Christianity. 01:43:56.560 --> 01:43:58.480 It doesn't come in fits and spurts. 01:43:58.480 --> 01:44:00.160 That's a hallmark of the devil. 01:44:00.160 --> 01:44:03.120 When you have revolution, when you have new things popping up all 01:44:03.120 --> 01:44:06.480 the time and changing all the time, that is alien to the 01:44:06.480 --> 01:44:07.760 Christian faith. 01:44:07.760 --> 01:44:12.160 It's not something that should be a part of our church. 01:44:12.160 --> 01:44:14.960 It should not be part of a Christian nation, of a Christian 01:44:14.960 --> 01:44:18.480 civilization. When we had Christendom, none of this existed. 01:44:19.200 --> 01:44:23.600 Christendom ended with the Enlightenment, to be explicit. 01:44:23.600 --> 01:44:26.480 Christendom died in the Enlightenment. 01:44:26.480 --> 01:44:30.160 This has all been dancing in the ashes of a Christendom that 01:44:30.160 --> 01:44:34.480 would have been our inheritance if our grandfathers had preserved it. 01:44:34.480 --> 01:44:35.840 But instead they failed. 01:44:35.840 --> 01:44:40.320 They betrayed us, they defied God, they've handed us a pile of 01:44:40.320 --> 01:44:43.520 evil. And that's why we're talking weird. 01:44:43.520 --> 01:44:46.240 That's why we're talking about stuff that people don't want to talk 01:44:46.240 --> 01:44:50.160 about. That's why we're talking about history, ancient history from 250 and 01:44:50.320 --> 01:44:51.520 300 years ago. 01:44:51.520 --> 01:44:53.760 That's not relevant to your life today, is it? 01:44:53.760 --> 01:44:56.480 Like those those those matters are long settled. 01:44:56.800 --> 01:44:58.480 Why would anyone care today? 01:44:58.480 --> 01:45:03.680 It's because this is the genesis of these modern heresies. 01:45:03.680 --> 01:45:05.840 These are teachings of demons. 01:45:05.840 --> 01:45:08.800 I've pointed many times to 1 Timothy 4. 01:45:08.800 --> 01:45:11.200 Teachings of demons is a very low threshold. 01:45:11.200 --> 01:45:14.480 Anything that is contrary to scripture is a teaching of demon. 01:45:14.480 --> 01:45:17.040 These are all things from hell. 01:45:17.040 --> 01:45:21.920 The illumination that we have today from the enlightenment, I frequently in 01:45:22.080 --> 01:45:23.680 text it doesn't work as well verbally. 01:45:24.080 --> 01:45:26.160 Ventex I call the enluciferment. 01:45:26.160 --> 01:45:28.480 It's harder to say, but that's really what it is. 01:45:28.480 --> 01:45:34.000 Lucifer the lightbringer in Lucifered the seventeenth century. 01:45:34.000 --> 01:45:39.120 He brought the light of hell to illuminate the world, and Christendom 01:45:39.120 --> 01:45:42.640 ceased to be Christendom when it bought it gobbled it up. 01:45:42.640 --> 01:45:46.400 All those things that appeal to our natural vanity, just as Satan 01:45:46.400 --> 01:45:49.520 appealed to Eve's vanity in the garden when God he said, You 01:45:49.520 --> 01:45:50.480 can be like God. 01:45:50.480 --> 01:45:52.480 And she said, Wow, it's a really pretty fruit. 01:45:52.640 --> 01:45:54.160 that sounds like a good deal. 01:45:54.160 --> 01:45:55.600 I won't surely die. 01:45:55.600 --> 01:45:56.640 God wouldn't kill me. 01:45:56.640 --> 01:45:57.520 God loves me. 01:45:57.520 --> 01:45:59.040 He's the God of love. 01:45:59.040 --> 01:46:00.960 This is gonna be great. 01:46:00.960 --> 01:46:05.120 That refrain has echoed through the ages in different ways. 01:46:05.120 --> 01:46:09.200 Our problem today in the West is that the final version of 01:46:09.200 --> 01:46:12.560 that that is all not only has it ended Christendom, but it's 01:46:12.480 --> 01:46:15.840 going to end Christianity if our churches are not reclaimed in the 01:46:15.840 --> 01:46:19.200 name of Scripture and the name of Scripture's God, the last three 01:46:19.200 --> 01:46:22.240 hundred years have left us with virtually nothing. 01:46:22.240 --> 01:46:25.520 And our churches and our pews are filled with people who when 01:46:25.520 --> 01:46:31.520 they hear these enlightenment teachings, teachings of feminism, teachings of abolition, all 01:46:31.520 --> 01:46:34.720 of these things that are opposed to God fundamentally, and you can 01:46:34.720 --> 01:46:37.280 demonstrate clearly from scripture as we have. 01:46:37.440 --> 01:46:41.440 People hear those things from the world, from Satan's mouth, and they 01:46:41.440 --> 01:46:44.480 hear the voice of God. 01:46:44.480 --> 01:46:48.720 They hear the voice of God in Satan's words. 01:46:48.720 --> 01:46:51.360 What does that mean for their salvation? 01:46:51.360 --> 01:46:55.280 I don't know, but I can tell you that God promises that 01:46:55.280 --> 01:46:58.080 his sheep recognize his voice. 01:46:58.080 --> 01:47:01.760 And when men like Corey and I speak with the words of 01:47:01.760 --> 01:47:06.000 God, like we're not prophets, we're quoting scripture and making simple arguments 01:47:06.080 --> 01:47:07.440 arguments from scripture. 01:47:07.440 --> 01:47:08.720 This is not fancy. 01:47:08.720 --> 01:47:11.280 We could be fancy, but that we I don't want to. 01:47:11.280 --> 01:47:14.000 I want to be as simple as possible with this stuff. 01:47:14.000 --> 01:47:16.400 I want to be as simple as they were 300 years ago 01:47:16.400 --> 01:47:17.920 when they believed it still. 01:47:17.920 --> 01:47:22.080 When Christians still believed these things, we had Christendom, and then we 01:47:22.080 --> 01:47:26.560 threw it away when we picked up what Satan was selling instead. 01:47:26.560 --> 01:47:31.520 When you have churches today where Christians hear the scriptural words and 01:47:31.520 --> 01:47:36.720 they don't recognize them and they hate them, that means that Christianity 01:47:36.720 --> 01:47:37.680 is going to die. 01:47:37.680 --> 01:47:41.520 It's going to die in this century unless something turns around. 01:47:41.520 --> 01:47:46.080 Because Christianity can only be propagated and perpetuated by Christians and there 01:47:46.080 --> 01:47:48.480 are vanishingly few of those left. 01:47:48.480 --> 01:47:52.160 When you look at the surveys of Christians of their beliefs, most 01:47:52.240 --> 01:47:56.320 Christian beliefs on the very most basic things, forget feminism and slavery 01:47:56.400 --> 01:47:59.680 and these hot button issues on whether or not Jesus is God, 01:47:59.680 --> 01:48:02.160 on whether or not Scripture is the word of God. 01:48:02.160 --> 01:48:04.320 Most Christians disagree with those statements. 01:48:04.320 --> 01:48:05.760 They're not Christian. 01:48:05.760 --> 01:48:09.760 Even in our churches, which themselves are largely not Christian anymore, most 01:48:09.760 --> 01:48:12.960 of the pews and the pews of those non Christian churches are 01:48:12.960 --> 01:48:14.320 themselves not Christians. 01:48:14.320 --> 01:48:16.160 The teachers are ceasing to be Christian. 01:48:16.160 --> 01:48:17.760 No one hears the word of God. 01:48:17.760 --> 01:48:19.280 They don't hear the voice of God. 01:48:19.280 --> 01:48:22.000 They hear the voice of Satan and they think that's my God, 01:48:22.000 --> 01:48:24.160 I'm going to follow him. 01:48:24.160 --> 01:48:28.000 This is an existential battle, which is why we b chose these 01:48:28.000 --> 01:48:32.720 things, these hot button issues, as subjects for the Stone Choir podcast. 01:48:32.720 --> 01:48:35.040 Because as hard as it is to hear, and as angry as 01:48:35.040 --> 01:48:37.520 it may make some of you to hear these things, we're not 01:48:37.520 --> 01:48:40.800 telling you anything that we would have s told anyone four hundred 01:48:40.800 --> 01:48:42.800 years ago 'cause there would have been no point. 01:48:42.800 --> 01:48:46.240 I they they would call us radical liberals for the things that 01:48:46.240 --> 01:48:48.240 we that we don't agree with them about. 01:48:48.240 --> 01:48:50.800 And I'd I would happily receive that reprimand. 01:48:50.800 --> 01:48:53.920 I wish there were someone to tell me I'm not going hard 01:48:53.920 --> 01:48:56.480 enough because I'm sure I'm missing something. 01:48:56.480 --> 01:48:59.840 And it's not going hard enough for the sake of earning salvation. 01:48:59.840 --> 01:49:01.520 I want to be faithful to God. 01:49:01.520 --> 01:49:03.440 I want you to be faithful to God. 01:49:03.440 --> 01:49:04.560 How do you do that? 01:49:04.560 --> 01:49:06.960 You hear his word and you obey it. 01:49:06.960 --> 01:49:08.640 Jesus died on the cross for you. 01:49:08.640 --> 01:49:09.840 You're already saved. 01:49:09.840 --> 01:49:12.640 There's nothing you can do to earn your salvation. 01:49:12.640 --> 01:49:15.680 There is something you can do to reject your salvation. 01:49:15.680 --> 01:49:18.480 You can You can put those, you can take those sins down 01:49:18.480 --> 01:49:21.040 off the cross and take them back to your own heart and 01:49:21.040 --> 01:49:22.800 say, I don't think these are sins anymore. 01:49:22.800 --> 01:49:24.560 I'm I'm gonna, that's not a sin. 01:49:24.560 --> 01:49:26.320 So Jesus didn't need to pay for that. 01:49:26.320 --> 01:49:30.560 If that is your belief, if that's your confession, God will decide 01:49:30.880 --> 01:49:34.080 on the last day whether he's going to credit Christ's righteousness to 01:49:34.080 --> 01:49:37.040 you or whether he's going to believe your confession that these things 01:49:37.040 --> 01:49:39.120 are not sins, because they are. 01:49:39.120 --> 01:49:39.920 He knows they are. 01:49:39.920 --> 01:49:43.120 He declared them from before eternity to be evil because they're contrary 01:49:43.120 --> 01:49:44.640 to his eternal will. 01:49:44.640 --> 01:49:47.680 If things that are contrary to God's will are part of your 01:49:47.680 --> 01:49:51.600 religion, I hope and pray that you'll change. 01:49:51.600 --> 01:49:54.240 Because time is running short for every one of us. 01:49:54.240 --> 01:49:58.320 And these matters, while they don't seem on their face to be 01:49:58.320 --> 01:50:02.160 principal matters of salvation, when we get down to the nitty gritty 01:50:02.160 --> 01:50:05.440 of people despising God's word, they absolutely are. 01:50:05.440 --> 01:50:08.560 Because when someone shows you in scripture that the man is the 01:50:08.560 --> 01:50:11.120 head of his wife is Christ is the head of the church, 01:50:11.120 --> 01:50:13.760 and you have Christians who've literally never heard the man is the 01:50:13.760 --> 01:50:16.240 head of his wife, and they demand to know where's that in 01:50:16.240 --> 01:50:21.120 scripture. Time is short for all of us. 01:50:21.120 --> 01:50:23.120 This is stuff that we have to get right. 01:50:23.120 --> 01:50:27.120 Not for our salvation, not to earn salvation, because if we deny 01:50:27.120 --> 01:50:30.640 God and he stand before the judgment throne, how is he going 01:50:30.640 --> 01:50:31.840 to receive us? 01:50:31.840 --> 01:50:33.760 I know how he's going to receive me. 01:50:34.080 --> 01:50:37.600 He's going to receive me covered in Christ's blood because that is 01:50:37.600 --> 01:50:39.680 the only thing that can cover my sins. 01:50:39.680 --> 01:50:43.680 But I confess everything that Christ says, not just the stuff that 01:50:43.680 --> 01:50:46.480 I like, not just the stuff that makes me look good, the 01:50:46.480 --> 01:50:49.280 stuff that makes me look the worse, and the stuff that makes 01:50:49.280 --> 01:50:50.560 me the most ashamed. 01:50:50.560 --> 01:50:52.240 That is what I confess. 01:50:52.240 --> 01:50:56.480 These controversial matters are matters of confession for all of us. 01:50:56.480 --> 01:51:01.040 We were born in a demonic society that does not view God 01:51:01.200 --> 01:51:03.760 and it hears the words of Satan and believes that they're the 01:51:03.760 --> 01:51:07.280 voice of God, we must reject that if we are to have 01:51:07.280 --> 01:51:10.080 salvation. Because although Christ earned it on the cross for every one 01:51:10.080 --> 01:51:13.440 of us, if you reject him, you reject the salvation that he 01:51:13.440 --> 01:51:14.880 was given to each of 01:51:14.880 --> 01:51:25.360 us.