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<v Speaker 1>is the 5th of February 2026.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>I am Corey J.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Mahler. This is at any cost.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>This is the 15th episode.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>It is a question and answer episode, and I will go ahead</v>

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<v Speaker 1>and get right into the questions.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>I don't have any housekeeping matters for this week.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>The first question here, I will pull up the actual wording of</v>

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<v Speaker 1>the question instead of just my summary.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>How do we discern between false brethren and those who will be</v>

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<v Speaker 1>saved as through fire, especially given the current climate?</v>

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<v Speaker 1>And so</v>

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<v Speaker 1>This is one of those questions that is going to just be</v>

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<v Speaker 1>relevant for quite some time, given the reality of the times in</v>

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<v Speaker 1>which we live.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>But of course, this is a reference to the passage in First</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Corinthians, and I'll pull that up here.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Probably helps if I switch over to Logos so you all can</v>

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<v Speaker 1>see that.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Come on, Lada.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>There we go.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>So</v>

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<v Speaker 1>So the reference here is to first Corinthians three fifteen.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>If anyone's work is burned up, he will suffer loss, though he</v>

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<v Speaker 1>himself will be saved, but only as through fire, and you could</v>

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<v Speaker 1>also read that as if through fire.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>It's not saying that, you know, purgatory, they try to draw that</v>

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<v Speaker 1>out of here.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>This is not purgatory.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>It is exactly what the verse says.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>You suffer the loss of the works not being actually good.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>So for instance, those who do things they think are righteous that</v>

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<v Speaker 1>turn out not to be righteous, those works d you don't get</v>

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<v Speaker 1>credit for them in eternity, basically, is what is being said here.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>This is also a reference to a few places in the Old</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Testament where there's a reference to God pulling something out of the</v>

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<v Speaker 1>fire, which is Almost a proverb, a prover a proverbial saying, that</v>

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<v Speaker 1>thing being rescued.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>So one of those would be I happen to remember this because</v>

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<v Speaker 1>I just read this passage in Zechariah, but Zechariah three, two.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>And the Lord said to the slanderer, of course, the slanderer being</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Satan, one of his names, The Lord rebuke you, O slanderer, and</v>

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<v Speaker 1>the Lord who has chosen Jerusalem rebuke you.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Behold is not this like a brand plucked from the fire.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>And of course it says Jesus here because the Septuagint uses Jesus</v>

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<v Speaker 1>because it's the same name instead of Joshua as it is translated</v>

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<v Speaker 1>in your Bible undoubtedly if you're using the Masoretic text.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>So, this is a proverbial saying, someone who has been rescued from</v>

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<v Speaker 1>destruction. And so, how do we tell those who are not false</v>

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<v Speaker 1>brothers, but are doing wicked things from those who are in fact</v>

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<v Speaker 1>just wicked?</v>

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<v Speaker 1>They're not even real brothers, they are going to spend eternity apart</v>

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<v Speaker 1>from us.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>It almost feels like I have to say this every episode, but</v>

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<v Speaker 1>it remains true and so it bears repeating.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Part of this is going to be a wisdom call because</v>

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<v Speaker 1>you simply are going to have to be able to tell true</v>

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<v Speaker 1>brothers from false brothers.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Part of this is going to, of course, be works, right?</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Because a Christian is known by his works ultimately.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, it is your faith that saves you, but your faith is</v>

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<v Speaker 1>demonstrated in your works.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>And so you can look at the works of those who are</v>

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<v Speaker 1>claiming to be Christian, and you can run an assessment on the</v>

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<v Speaker 1>basis of those works.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>It's not a wicked thing to do that.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>In fact, that is using your God given wisdom.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>So if you have someone who claims to be a Christian brother,</v>

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<v Speaker 1>but everything he does in his life is wicked.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>And we can, of course, think of the most obvious examples of</v>

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<v Speaker 1>this. You have the female so-called pastor in the rainbow stole saying,</v>

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<v Speaker 1>you know, BLM and all that nonsense, right?</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Clearly not your sister in Christ.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>That's the obvious example.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>We're not asking really about that.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>That's not difficult.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Everyone can make that call.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>The question is how do you discern those who are</v>

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<v Speaker 1>closer to being Christian, right?</v>

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<v Speaker 1>They're better at presenting themselves as Christian.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>And And</v>

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<v Speaker 1>the better the person is at deceiving, the harder it is going</v>

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<v Speaker 1>to be to detect him.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>That's sort of how deception goes.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>It's one of the reasons that sometimes what Satan is doing is</v>

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<v Speaker 1>difficult because Satan's very good at deceiving.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>He's been doing it a long time.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>He He doesn't sleep.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>He's better than most human beings at deceiving people.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Most people aren't that good at it.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>And so you can get a pretty good feel for whether or</v>

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<v Speaker 1>not someone is trying to, you know, maneuver you to stab you</v>

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<v Speaker 1>in the back to be sort of blunt.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>You have instincts.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>God gave you instincts.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>In large part you should trust those.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>They're not always accurate.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Sometimes they're ninety-five% accurate instead of 100%.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>But you should trust them at least as a data point in</v>

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<v Speaker 1>making your final assessment.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>And so if someone gives you a really bad feeling, well, those</v>

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<v Speaker 1>are your God-given senses telling you there's something off here, there's something</v>

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<v Speaker 1>wrong here.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Listen to that.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>But the biggest part of it is going to be looking at</v>

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<v Speaker 1>those works.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>If you have someone who is producing good works who happens to</v>

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<v Speaker 1>simply be an error, that's a different thing.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>You should want to rescue that brother from his error.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>He is not a false brother.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>He's simply a brother in error.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>There are many of those.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Most Christians are going to have some false belief somewhere.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>It's not going to damn you if you have some minor false</v>

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<v Speaker 1>belief. There's a question about that later on, so I'll get into</v>

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<v Speaker 1>that when I get to that question.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Hopefully get to that question.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>There are a lot of questions.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>So</v>

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<v Speaker 1>for the false brothers, it's very similar to what we have to</v>

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<v Speaker 1>do all the time in our current social and political climate.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>We're all accustomed to this.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>If you are dealing with new people, you don't go ahead and</v>

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<v Speaker 1>bring up all of your political beliefs right up front.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Right? Particularly if you're one of us, right?</v>

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<v Speaker 1>You're a guy who's on the far right, so to speak.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>You're not far right by historical standards, of course, because most of</v>

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<v Speaker 1>us are pretty moderate by historical standards, even if you would call</v>

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<v Speaker 1>yourself far right.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>A separate topic perhaps, but related here.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>You already know how to do this because you know that many</v>

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<v Speaker 1>times you are going to be dealing with people</v>

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<v Speaker 1>in society, in your social life, who would cause you harm if</v>

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<v Speaker 1>you revealed all of the things that you actually believe.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>And so you're already running that sort of assessment.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Unfortunately, you have to run that assessment in the churches as well,</v>

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<v Speaker 1>particularly these days, because there are many false Christians.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>There are many who claim the name of Christ and don't follow</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Christ at all.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>We run into this all the time.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>You can see many examples of this, particularly on X where any</v>

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<v Speaker 1>number of us at this point will post a Bible verse, sometimes</v>

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<v Speaker 1>in quotes, sometimes not, and then someone says, Well, I don't believe</v>

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<v Speaker 1>that. Well, that's the problem.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>They don't actually believe what Christianity teaches because they aren't actually Christians.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>And so use those skills that you have undoubtedly developed with regard</v>

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<v Speaker 1>to politics and just living your life in society, and translate that</v>

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<v Speaker 1>into the church.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>It's again unfortunate, but that is the reality of where we are</v>

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<v Speaker 1>today</v>

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<v Speaker 1>And you can also think of the verses that speak of handing</v>

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<v Speaker 1>someone over to Satan, right?</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Because ultimately that is the point of driving someone from that fellowship</v>

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<v Speaker 1>is you want him to repent, right?</v>

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<v Speaker 1>That's it's speaking of excommunication.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>And I know that someone in the comments will post weren't you</v>

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<v Speaker 1>excommunicated? Yes.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>By a church that thought that racism, sexism sexism and anti-Semitism were</v>

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<v Speaker 1>sins. Found nowhere in scripture, addressed thoroughly in Stone Choir and elsewhere.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>So for those who want to look for those, that's all there.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>I can put some of that in the show notes as well.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>And And</v>

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<v Speaker 1>obviously I recognize that happened.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Luther was excommunicated.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Chrysostom was driven from his church at some point.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>You can think, of course, of Matthew five, right?</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Your reward will be great in heaven because these people who are</v>

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<v Speaker 1>persecuting us today for believing the things that Christians have always believed,</v>

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<v Speaker 1>well, their ancestors, spiritual or physical in many cases, persecuted the prophets</v>

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<v Speaker 1>in the same way.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>So blessed are you when they persecute you for the sake of</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Christ. So I and of course I posted the video of me</v>

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<v Speaker 1>being challenged by police outside my church.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not hiding that.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>I recognize that's the reality of where we are today.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>It's important for people to see that.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Like I've mentioned before, when people ask about, say, confronting their pastor</v>

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<v Speaker 1>on some particular issue of false doctrine, usually Judaizing, but sometimes other</v>

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<v Speaker 1>things. Your outcome may very well be that he calls the police</v>

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<v Speaker 1>on you and has you escorted out of the building.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>So I tell people you need to be ready for that.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>It doesn't mean that you don't do it.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>It means you be ready for it.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>But to get back to the immediate question about false brothers, exercise</v>

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<v Speaker 1>the wisdom that God has given you and run the same sort</v>

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<v Speaker 1>of identical friend or foe analysis that you would in the world</v>

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<v Speaker 1>at large with regard to social and political issues.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Pull up the next question here.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Next question is about the Lutheran Church.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>I don't believe I answered this one previously.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>I think I answered something that was similar to it.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>And so I'm remembering that.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>But the question is I have been strongly considering joining our local</v>

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<v Speaker 1>LCMS congregation.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know how many Lutherans in the area I live in,</v>

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<v Speaker 1>or I don't know many Lutherans in the area I live in,</v>

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<v Speaker 1>nor was I raised Lutheran, but I do believe the Lutheran confessions</v>

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<v Speaker 1>are consonant with the Word of God and is the only church</v>

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<v Speaker 1>I wish to advance being a member of.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>One of the obvious things noted after viewing the congregation's staff is</v>

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<v Speaker 1>that there's a female educator in quotes.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>I would presume this may being a Sunday school or Bible study</v>

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<v Speaker 1>teacher again in quotes.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Do you have any advice on how to proceed visiting the church</v>

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<v Speaker 1>service at this congregation?</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Or is this a clear marker to stay away?</v>

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<v Speaker 1>So I don't think it's necessarily a clear marker to stay away</v>

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<v Speaker 1>because it's going to depend on what educator means, right?</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Could be a teacher.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>We have and in th in that case I mean a a</v>

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<v Speaker 1>school teacher, not a Bible study teacher, it's a different thing.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>In many cases, you're going to have a school attached to the</v>

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<v Speaker 1>church, and so if it's an educator in that sense, that's not</v>

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<v Speaker 1>a problem, because it's going to be a a primary school.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>They're going to be teaching children, which women are permitted to teach</v>

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<v Speaker 1>children, that's fine.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Women are permitted to teach other women as well.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>There's some limits on that, but that's sort of a tangential issue.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>If you have a woman who is leading the Bible study that</v>

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<v Speaker 1>is mixed men and women, that's unacceptable.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>If you have a woman who is standing up and teaching and</v>

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<v Speaker 1>just saying that she's not acting like a pastor, but that's really</v>

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<v Speaker 1>what she's doing, that's not acceptable either.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>The best way to figure it out is either attend a service</v>

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<v Speaker 1>or watch one online.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>If you're watching online, you can probably get through things much more</v>

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<v Speaker 1>quickly, much more efficiently because you can skip around and figure out</v>

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<v Speaker 1>if she appears and if she does appear what she's doing.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>So I would say just do that.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Check the live stream if they have it.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Check their back catalog of stream services if they have that, that's</v>

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<v Speaker 1>the easiest way.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Or go to a service.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>You could email the pastor and see what he says.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>That's also an option, but I think the easiest way is just</v>

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<v Speaker 1>look at what they're actually doing.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Women should, of course, not be doing those things.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>I've gone into that before, many places and many times, but</v>

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<v Speaker 1>it's not necessarily a red flag that she's listed.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>People just like to be listed.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>They like to be included.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>They like to be on the website.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>It may be she's doing nothing wrong.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>There's a non-trivial chance she's doing something she shouldn't be doing, but</v>

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<v Speaker 1>the only way to figure out which one it is is to</v>

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<v Speaker 1>actually look at the service or attend one of the services.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>So</v>

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<v Speaker 1>hopefully it's a good church.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Hopefully she's not doing things that God has told her not to</v>

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<v Speaker 1>do. But these days</v>

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<v Speaker 1>you just have to check.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>The next question is about Greek.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Hello, Cory.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>I'm early in my Koina Greek journey myself and greatly enjoyed your</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Septuagint series.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Thanks for the great content.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>I have a few questions about your learning process that would be</v>

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<v Speaker 1>super helpful.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>One, timeline.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>How long did it take you to feel comfortable with your understanding</v>

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<v Speaker 1>of Greek?</v>

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<v Speaker 1>I'll just answer these sequences.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not fluent in Greek.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>And I'm obviously completely fine admitting that.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>I am probably quite a ways off from being fluent in Greek.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>My German is much better than my Greek my Latin is better</v>

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<v Speaker 1>than my Greek.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>But well</v>

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<v Speaker 1>maybe at this point they're about parody.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>But</v>

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<v Speaker 1>I don't need to have the fluency in that sense because I</v>

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<v Speaker 1>understand the mechanics of how language works.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>I'm pretty good with that part of it.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>And so having access to things like logos, which obviously I pull</v>

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<v Speaker 1>that up all the time.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>You can use the language if you understand the mechanics of how</v>

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<v Speaker 1>a language works.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Obviously, it helps a lot if you know the alphabet because Greek's</v>

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<v Speaker 1>a different alphabet.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>But if you know those basics and then you understand language, you</v>

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<v Speaker 1>can achieve a lot without yourself being fluent, absent access to those</v>

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<v Speaker 1>materials. So in terms of the timeline, I can't give you really</v>

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<v Speaker 1>an answer because I'm not personally fluent.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>The general rule for a language is going to be something like</v>

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<v Speaker 1>ten thousand hours, I think it is that you want to invest</v>

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<v Speaker 1>to reach a certain level of fluency.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>It's going to depend on the distance of the language from your</v>

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<v Speaker 1>native language and other languages you know.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>So for instance, if you know Italian, right, it will take you</v>

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<v Speaker 1>less time to pick up Latin than Japanese.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>So that's going to partly depend there.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Greek is a little more distant from other European languages, so as</v>

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<v Speaker 1>an English speaker, it is not something where you have huge overlap.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>You already know some of the term, some of the language, the</v>

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<v Speaker 1>vocabulary, just because English has imported so much from Greek?</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Mostly Latin and French, right, and obviously French ultimately Latin some German</v>

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<v Speaker 1>in the case of French being some German, not in the case</v>

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<v Speaker 1>of English.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>English is a lot of German But not as much of an</v>

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<v Speaker 1>overlap in terms of the overall language, English and Greek.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>So there's a lot of stuff that's going to be new for</v>

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<v Speaker 1>an English speaker.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Not least of all because English has dropped a lot of the</v>

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<v Speaker 1>things that other languages have, inflection and things like that.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>We have very little of that left in English.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Personal pronouns basically the only exception the word blonde, which we ultimately</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Latin, but we took it from the French there, and so that's</v>

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<v Speaker 1>why that E is on the end.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>It's blonde with an E if it's referring to a female.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>It's blonde without the E if it's referring to a male.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Everyone forgets that rule, but it's one of the only things in</v>

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<v Speaker 1>English we have that's inflected other than the personal pronouns.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>But</v>

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<v Speaker 1>that's basically the rough answer for timeline.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Grammar reliance is the second question.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Do you still need to frequently reference grammar?</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Yes. For me, the in the sense of referencing a grammar, which</v>

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<v Speaker 1>is telling me functionally how the mechanics of Greek works, I don't</v>

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<v Speaker 1>have to reference it in sense of what most people hear when</v>

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<v Speaker 1>they hear grammar, because I know that stuff.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>I know what the accusative is, I know what the dative is</v>

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<v Speaker 1>and the genitive and all of these things.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>But in order to actually understand how a particular Greek verb has</v>

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<v Speaker 1>been conjugated, yes, of course, I'm going to use logos, but the</v>

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<v Speaker 1>nice thing about logos is I'll go ahead and just switch back</v>

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<v Speaker 1>over to Logos here for a second.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>One of the nicest things about Logos is let's pull up uh</v>

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<v Speaker 1>not the Nets, because the Nets does not have the full thing</v>

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<v Speaker 1>that I want here.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>So we'll pull up the Lexum.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>And so one of the nice things here, right?</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Like garments.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>I click on this and it tells me, of course, it doesn't</v>

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<v Speaker 1>show the interstitial menu to you, because why would it do that?</v>

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<v Speaker 1>But anyway, if you click on a word, it gives you all</v>

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<v Speaker 1>the information you need about the word, which obviously very useful.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>It also gives it down in the lower left, which it also</v>

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<v Speaker 1>does not show in the preview for streaming because</v>

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<v Speaker 1>why would they implement that?</v>

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<v Speaker 1>But with these sorts of tools, you can get a lot done</v>

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<v Speaker 1>in a language in which you are not yet, anyway, personally fluent.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Methods and resources, the third subquestion, as it were.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>What did you use to learn and what was your overall approach?</v>

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<v Speaker 1>I have some Greek books, just standard language learning books, and then</v>

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<v Speaker 1>I've used some online tools a bit and then most of it</v>

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<v Speaker 1>has just been looking at scripture, switching back and forth between the</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Greek and the English and using the available tools in Logos.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Because the tools are very nice.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>And no, this is not an advertisement for Lagos.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>I absolutely hate their pricing model and I think that it's highway</v>

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<v Speaker 1>robbery. But the reality of our situation is that these tools overcharge</v>

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<v Speaker 1>and part of it is not their fault to give them credit</v>

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<v Speaker 1>where credit is due.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Because of course, this is IP intellectual property, and so the ultimate</v>

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<v Speaker 1>owners of these things get to set some of the terms and</v>

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<v Speaker 1>the prices and things like that.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>And so they don't have 100% control.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>But my position, as I've been very clear all along, long held</v>

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<v Speaker 1>position, most resources of this kind at least should be free.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>The men who are capable of using these resources who aren't going</v>

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<v Speaker 1>to get off into crazy trouble on their own with them, should</v>

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<v Speaker 1>have access to these.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>If someone is going to seminary to be a theologian, someone who</v>

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<v Speaker 1>has the skills to do that, he should just have access to</v>

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<v Speaker 1>all of the materials for free.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>You should not be gatekeeping things related to God.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>That's completely ridiculous.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>No Christian should want to do that.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>But tangential issue there.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>The fourth and final sub question.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>You recommend modern Greek pronunciation, very much so over Erasmian.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>However, most koina materials seem to stick exclusively to Erasmian, that's also</v>

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<v Speaker 1>true. What's the best way to learn and practice modern pronunciation for</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Koina? So for for modern pronunciation, you're just learning modern pronunciation.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>You're not learning it for koina, really.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>It's not sort of</v>

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<v Speaker 1>the difference here is that Greek hasn't changed as much as English</v>

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<v Speaker 1>in the same period of time.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Of course, English isn't that old.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>But it's closer to say what German has done.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>And so I've mentioned before, I can pick up a German text</v>

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<v Speaker 1>from the 1500s and get through it just fine.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>There will be some quirks, there are some rules that have changed,</v>

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<v Speaker 1>there have been some standardizations in terms of spelling, but by and</v>

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<v Speaker 1>large, any German speaker can pick up a text from the fifteen</v>

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<v Speaker 1>hundreds in German and read it.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>So I have a Luther Bible that's on my shelf over here</v>

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<v Speaker 1>from fifteen forty five.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>That's not that much more difficult to read than modern German.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>English is not the same.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Because English has changed a lot.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>You have Old English, you have Middle English, you have modern English.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>And I'll put a link to Caucer in the show notes for</v>

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<v Speaker 1>anyone wants to go and look at it, you can see how</v>

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<v Speaker 1>much it's changed.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>For Greek it's not as big of a change, so just learn</v>

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<v Speaker 1>how modern Greeks pronounce their words and then read the koina as</v>

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<v Speaker 1>if it were modern Greek.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>There are some things that have changed, there's some spelling quirks and</v>

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<v Speaker 1>things like that, but you won't have trouble doing that.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>And the reason I recommend that you learn modern pronunciation in Otkoina,</v>

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<v Speaker 1>really it's kind of twofold.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>One, Erasmus just constructed his pronunciation rules, partly because he didn't want</v>

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<v Speaker 1>any vowels to sound the same.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>The problem is natural language has things that sound the same.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>That happens.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>I can think of a number of different vowel pairings in German</v>

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<v Speaker 1>that are not the same but sound the same.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>And English does the same thing, of course.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>English a little less so because So, because English has a lot</v>

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<v Speaker 1>of weird sounds from importing other languages and blending them together.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>But the second part of the reason would be that you have</v>

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<v Speaker 1>an entire world of materials available to you if you are learning</v>

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<v Speaker 1>modern pronunciation, because the Greek still exists.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>The Greek language still exists.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>The Greek language is still in use.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>If you are learning Erasmian, that's not in use because it was</v>

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<v Speaker 1>never in use, because it was never a real thing.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>It was a constructed pronunciation of Greek specifically for use in biblical</v>

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<v Speaker 1>studies. So just use modern Greek because you're going to have more</v>

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<v Speaker 1>materials available to you, and it will actually be helpful as well.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Because, say, you want to visit Greece at some point, you'll actually</v>

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<v Speaker 1>be able to speak to people.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Not if you learn Erasmian.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>They'll look at you like you have two heads.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>So</v>

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<v Speaker 1>it just makes more sense to learn modern.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>There's no there's no benefit to learning the Erasmian other than</v>

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<v Speaker 1>you can talk to pastors who also learned it.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>But I don't think that's very compelling.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>The next question, moving on to some of the questions from</v>

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<v Speaker 1>X, I believe now.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know that I will get to many of the questions</v>

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<v Speaker 1>in the chat this time.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>I will go through and write them down because I have a</v>

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<v Speaker 1>lot A lot of questions.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>I will not get through all of them this episode.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>But the next question, what are your thoughts on why the left</v>

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<v Speaker 1>can organize so easily often around a single issue while the right</v>

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<v Speaker 1>cannot seem to do so, even on a very small scale.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>I'm thinking about the American context specifically, it seems like there are</v>

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<v Speaker 1>relevant internal and external factors.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>This is very true, and it certainly makes things more difficult in</v>

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<v Speaker 1>the American context.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Because</v>

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<v Speaker 1>let's see, what is the the best way to start for the</v>

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<v Speaker 1>core reason here?</v>

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<v Speaker 1>The core reason really is that politics is the identity of the</v>

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<v Speaker 1>left</v>

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<v Speaker 1>That is who they are because they ultimately found their life on</v>

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<v Speaker 1>that. They don't have any other coherent organizing principle, they don't have</v>

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<v Speaker 1>something that means more to them than politics.</v>

00:24:25.600 --> 00:24:27.760
<v Speaker 1>Politics is their life.</v>

00:24:27.760 --> 00:24:29.920
<v Speaker 1>Politics is their core.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>And so it's going to make it easier to organize people when</v>

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<v Speaker 1>you are appealing to their highest principle to speak about principles they</v>

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<v Speaker 1>don't have, but when you are appealing to them in that way</v>

00:24:42.880 --> 00:24:47.680
<v Speaker 1>versus the right, well anyone on the right has things that he</v>

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<v Speaker 1>cares about ultimately</v>

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<v Speaker 1>more than politics.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>And that's correct, you should.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>You care about your family more than politics.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>You care about politics because you care about your family.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>You care about God more than you care about politics.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>You care about politics because you care about God, because you want</v>

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<v Speaker 1>to bring our politics in line with what God demands.</v>

00:25:11.760 --> 00:25:13.840
<v Speaker 1>Ultimately, that's what Christian nationalism is.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>It's sort of a sh a short A short summary of that,</v>

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<v Speaker 1>but</v>

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<v Speaker 1>politics is the end goal for the left.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Because the left is animated almost exclusively by power.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Which they're not wrong for that.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>They recognize that power</v>

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<v Speaker 1>ultimately is what matters in these affairs.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>And that's true.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>The person who has the power sets the rules.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Might makes right in a certain sense of right.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Not in the sense of ultimate moral good versus wrong, right?</v>

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<v Speaker 1>But in the sense that the person who has the power gets</v>

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<v Speaker 1>to set the terms and say what is right and wrong.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>That's absolutely true.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>the left is better at recognizing that than the right, at least</v>

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<v Speaker 1>these days.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>In the American context, there's another aspect of it.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>It's actually perhaps</v>

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<v Speaker 1>two facets, same thing.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>The first part of it would be that we have this strain</v>

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<v Speaker 1>of individualism and just sort of being</v>

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<v Speaker 1>obstreperous almost, just being disagreeable in the US, particularly on the right</v>

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<v Speaker 1>side of politics.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>That has been there since the beginning in the American context.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Part of it is going to be constitutional, not uppercase C referring</v>

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<v Speaker 1>to the document, but lowercase C referring to the people, because</v>

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<v Speaker 1>just some of the people who came over here from Europe were</v>

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<v Speaker 1>more like that than average.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>And it has entrenched over time a bit of its genetic in</v>

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<v Speaker 1>our case.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Partly because, you know, we have the Scottish admixture and things like</v>

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<v Speaker 1>that, people who are a little less agreeable, and Germans aren't entirely</v>

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<v Speaker 1>agreeable when it comes to certain things.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>So part of it is going to be constitutional in that sense</v>

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<v Speaker 1>for us and then in Germany entrenched and sort of a feedback</v>

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<v Speaker 1>loop with how our society has been organized.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>And then there is also the fact, the second facet of this,</v>

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<v Speaker 1>libertarianism has long been a force</v>

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<v Speaker 1>on the right side of politics in the US.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Left as well, but very minor over there because left libertarian never</v>

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<v Speaker 1>really got any traction.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Supposedly, right-wing libertarianism has for many years, decades, been part of the</v>

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<v Speaker 1>right wing in the US context.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>And so because of that, and because of the intellectual push they've</v>

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<v Speaker 1>had, they've had fairly good funding in some cases.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>You have various outfit outfits putting out all these pieces trying to</v>

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<v Speaker 1>push libertarianism and libertarian thought.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>And it gets tied up with the American love of freedom and</v>

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<v Speaker 1>liberty, regardless of whether or not the person who is advocating for</v>

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<v Speaker 1>those things knows what either term means.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>And because of that fact, it makes it more difficult to get</v>

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<v Speaker 1>men to follow orders, to fall in line.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>And ultimately, if you don't have people willing to follow orders, you</v>

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<v Speaker 1>don't have an actual movement.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>All you have is a bunch of people in a room arguing</v>

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<v Speaker 1>with each other and not cooperating.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>That's the problem the right has.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>It is very difficult on the right to be a leader because</v>

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<v Speaker 1>most men are not very good at following orders.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>They always want to question your orders.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Which I'm not saying you can't question the orders of a leader,</v>

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<v Speaker 1>but there's a time and a place.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>If you're in the middle of a battle and your commander tells</v>

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<v Speaker 1>you to do something, unless it is completely and utterly insane and</v>

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<v Speaker 1>you know that because you're in a position to know it and</v>

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<v Speaker 1>he isn't, so unless you have a compelling, truly compelling reason</v>

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<v Speaker 1>to ask him about his order, right?</v>

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<v Speaker 1>You just obey.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>That's what you do as a soldier.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>And</v>

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<v Speaker 1>we are going to have to recognize that we are actually in</v>

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<v Speaker 1>a war.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>It is not simply political disagreement.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>It's a war.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>And so in a war, and given that we are in a</v>

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<v Speaker 1>war, men need to learn to follow orders.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>That's going to be difficult on the on the right side of</v>

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<v Speaker 1>things in the US context for all the reasons I mentioned and</v>

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<v Speaker 1>some others as well.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>The left does not have that problem because again, no animating principle</v>

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<v Speaker 1>for them except for politics and power.</v>

00:29:37.440 --> 00:29:40.960
<v Speaker 1>So for them, politics is the goal.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>It's the end, it's the thing toward which their life is oriented.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>For the right wing it's not.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>And so you have men who are going to have competing principles,</v>

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<v Speaker 1>as it were, because they want to try and make whatever the</v>

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<v Speaker 1>leader has said, whatever someone has told them they need to do,</v>

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<v Speaker 1>consonant with these other things that demand a greater allegiance.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>The problem is that all of those things about which you actually</v>

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<v Speaker 1>care, and I'm not saying they're wrong, again, I'm saying those are</v>

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<v Speaker 1>right, you should care about those more, but all of those things</v>

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<v Speaker 1>about which you actually care, you can't get to them, you can't</v>

00:30:18.000 --> 00:30:23.040
<v Speaker 1>defend them, you can't achieve them without the power.</v>

00:30:23.040 --> 00:30:27.200
<v Speaker 1>The left recognized that aspect of it much better than the right.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>The right needs to get more serious about the fact that if</v>

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<v Speaker 1>you do not have political power, if you do not maintain political</v>

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<v Speaker 1>power, and if you don't crush your enemies when you have political</v>

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<v Speaker 1>power, you will never achieve all the other things that are more</v>

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<v Speaker 1>important than political power.</v>

00:30:43.600 --> 00:30:47.280
<v Speaker 1>You need the means to achieve the ends.</v>

00:30:47.280 --> 00:30:52.480
<v Speaker 1>For us on the right wing, politics is the means to the</v>

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<v Speaker 1>ends we seek.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>For the left, politics is the end, and so they will do</v>

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<v Speaker 1>anything to achieve it.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>We need to be willing to look at politics and political power</v>

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<v Speaker 1>in the way that they look at all these other things they're</v>

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<v Speaker 1>willing to do to achieve that.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Because otherwise, they win.</v>

00:31:11.440 --> 00:31:14.480
<v Speaker 1>The side that wants it more generally wins.</v>

00:31:14.480 --> 00:31:16.800
<v Speaker 1>We need to want it more than the left, and we need</v>

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<v Speaker 1>to be willing to wield it in a way that even they</v>

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<v Speaker 1>aren't willing to do quite yet.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Now, I think they will in the near future if they should</v>

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<v Speaker 1>have power again, but we need to be ruthless, because that's politics.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>And</v>

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<v Speaker 1>again, men need to learn to follow orders.</v>

00:31:36.000 --> 00:31:39.600
<v Speaker 1>We need to treat it more as if we are which we</v>

00:31:39.600 --> 00:31:44.400
<v Speaker 1>are in reality, soldiers in a war instead of men</v>

00:31:45.280 --> 00:31:48.720
<v Speaker 1>discussing philosophy around the dinner table.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>That's how politics has been read has been treated by the right</v>

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<v Speaker 1>wing for many years.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>That's not what it is.</v>

00:31:56.880 --> 00:31:59.840
<v Speaker 1>Politics is a knife fight in a bar.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>You need to take it a little more seriously than discussing the</v>

00:32:03.760 --> 00:32:06.720
<v Speaker 1>philosophy of Kant over coffee.</v>

00:32:07.040 --> 00:32:09.920
<v Speaker 1>Kant would approve of the coffee incidentally, but</v>

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<v Speaker 1>we just don't take it seriously in the same way the left</v>

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<v Speaker 1>does. And it's for a number of reasons, but that needs to</v>

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<v Speaker 1>change and it needs to change yesterday.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>I have a question here from the chat.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Hi, I'm EO, but I love the podcast.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>How do I start to get educated on political science?</v>

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<v Speaker 1>What reading material podcasts, etc.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know of that many podcasts for political science,</v>

00:32:46.480 --> 00:32:48.000
<v Speaker 1>but if you need say</v>

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<v Speaker 1>the philosophy background for it, there is the history of philosophy without</v>

00:32:54.000 --> 00:32:59.440
<v Speaker 1>any gaps is probably one of the better summary podcasts for philosophy</v>

00:32:59.440 --> 00:33:02.160
<v Speaker 1>to give you and at this point it's many, many hours of</v>

00:33:02.160 --> 00:33:06.560
<v Speaker 1>listening, but it will give you sort of the foundation you need</v>

00:33:06.560 --> 00:33:12.480
<v Speaker 1>for many political ideas because many political ideas ultimately are philosophical.</v>

00:33:12.480 --> 00:33:12.560
<v Speaker 1>So</v>

00:33:14.160 --> 00:33:16.800
<v Speaker 1>you can you know pick You know, pick and choose the episodes</v>

00:33:16.800 --> 00:33:20.720
<v Speaker 1>that are relevant, listen to the political philosophers instead of others.</v>

00:33:20.720 --> 00:33:25.600
<v Speaker 1>But insofar as reading is concerned, that is almost an endless number</v>

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<v Speaker 1>of suggestions.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>But for anyone on the right wing, you probably want to read</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Schmidt first.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>That's just the reality of the matter.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>So definitely read Schmidt</v>

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<v Speaker 1>and then</v>

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<v Speaker 1>looking at what books I happen to have near.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Most of my political science books are actually in another room, but</v>

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<v Speaker 1>it's partly going to depend on what your goal is with reading</v>

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<v Speaker 1>political science.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Why are you reading it?</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Are you reading it to get into politics?</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Because then you want practical?</v>

00:33:58.240 --> 00:34:01.040
<v Speaker 1>Are you reading it because you just enjoy it?</v>

00:34:01.040 --> 00:34:04.480
<v Speaker 1>Then you probably want to go heavier on the philosophy.</v>

00:34:04.480 --> 00:34:10.080
<v Speaker 1>So depending on your goal, you you're going to tailor your reading</v>

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<v Speaker 1>list to that goal.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>So if it's just for enjoyment, then you know, read whatever you</v>

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<v Speaker 1>like. But if it is for discussing with other men Other men,</v>

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<v Speaker 1>it's because you want to understand this fundamental aspect of humanity and</v>

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<v Speaker 1>human nature, then go heavy on the philosophy, even more so than</v>

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<v Speaker 1>the straight political science, as it were.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>But the practical side of things, read about actual campaigns that worked.</v>

00:34:36.560 --> 00:34:39.840
<v Speaker 1>It's the same sort of thing that you have over in the</v>

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<v Speaker 1>military, right?</v>

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<v Speaker 1>The military will read about historical battles and what worked or didn't</v>

00:34:44.080 --> 00:34:47.680
<v Speaker 1>work because theory is one thing, but it's sort of like a</v>

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<v Speaker 1>battle plan.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>It doesn't survive contact with the enemy.</v>

00:34:51.040 --> 00:34:54.960
<v Speaker 1>So you can read political theory all day.</v>

00:34:54.960 --> 00:34:58.240
<v Speaker 1>You're not going to get a real deep understanding of how the</v>

00:34:58.240 --> 00:35:02.320
<v Speaker 1>game is actually played, how the sausage is actually made, until you</v>

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<v Speaker 1>actually start looking at real campaigns, real politicians, and probably get involved</v>

00:35:06.880 --> 00:35:08.560
<v Speaker 1>in it as well.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>So</v>

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<v Speaker 1>tailor your reading list with regard to what it is you want</v>

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<v Speaker 1>to achieve.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>The spectrum is philosophy on the one end and reading about the</v>

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<v Speaker 1>nitty-gritty of running a campaign on the other.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Next question is nice and short and easy one.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Will you start a Bible study?</v>

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<v Speaker 1>I have</v>

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<v Speaker 1>begun the process of revising my notes on Genesis, partly because obviously</v>

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<v Speaker 1>this time they will be based on the Septuagint instead of the</v>

00:35:44.160 --> 00:35:46.160
<v Speaker 1>Masoretic text.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>And I don't know when I will start that, but I do</v>

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<v Speaker 1>intend to at least do a Bible study on Genesis.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>I'll make the video freely available and the audio and whatnot.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>I won't give a timeline on that because again I have no</v>

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<v Speaker 1>idea when I will manage to set the time aside and actually</v>

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<v Speaker 1>get through that and finish that.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>But yes, I do intend to resume I did a Bible study</v>

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<v Speaker 1>back at my church in California.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>I do intend to resume doing that.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>So hopefully in the relatively near future, but I guess we will</v>

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<v Speaker 1>all see how that goes.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>The next question What makes someone Lutheran?</v>

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<v Speaker 1>I actually want to abstract this one out at least one level,</v>

00:36:37.840 --> 00:36:41.360
<v Speaker 1>I think, because I will answer the question itself, but I think</v>

00:36:41.360 --> 00:36:44.160
<v Speaker 1>abstracting it out a level is perhaps more helpful here.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>My first answer would be of course that a Lutheran is just</v>

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<v Speaker 1>a Christian.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>That is what you should believe about whatever denomination is your denomination,</v>

00:36:58.720 --> 00:37:04.080
<v Speaker 1>whichever one you claim, because if you think that you're some other</v>

00:37:04.080 --> 00:37:08.320
<v Speaker 1>thing than Christian, why are you still that denomination, right?</v>

00:37:08.640 --> 00:37:13.040
<v Speaker 1>You are part of your church, part of your denomination, because you</v>

00:37:13.120 --> 00:37:16.080
<v Speaker 1>believe it teaches the Christian truth.</v>

00:37:16.080 --> 00:37:20.400
<v Speaker 1>And so if you are a Baptist, it's because you don't believe</v>

00:37:20.800 --> 00:37:22.880
<v Speaker 1>that baptism saves.</v>

00:37:22.880 --> 00:37:29.680
<v Speaker 1>If you are any number of usually non-denominational Baptists as well, you</v>

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<v Speaker 1>probably don't believe in the real presence.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Because if you believed in the real presence, you would not stay</v>

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<v Speaker 1>in one of those churches.</v>

00:37:37.120 --> 00:37:38.080
<v Speaker 1>If you</v>

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<v Speaker 1>don't believe that the Mass, the Roman Catholic Mass forgives your sins,</v>

00:37:46.160 --> 00:37:50.000
<v Speaker 1>you're probably not going to stay in a Roman Catholic Church.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>And so my first answer again is that I am a Lutheran</v>

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<v Speaker 1>because I believe that that is simply another word for Christian.</v>

00:37:58.800 --> 00:38:01.040
<v Speaker 1>For those who don't know the history, the</v>

00:38:02.080 --> 00:38:08.000
<v Speaker 1>Roman Catholics during the time of the Reformation started calling the Protestants</v>

00:38:08.000 --> 00:38:11.840
<v Speaker 1>Lutherans because they were trying to say you follow a man instead</v>

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<v Speaker 1>of following Christ.</v>

00:38:13.360 --> 00:38:16.880
<v Speaker 1>Perhaps never realizing the irony of the fact that they call themselves</v>

00:38:16.880 --> 00:38:24.480
<v Speaker 1>specifically Roman, but leaving that aside, the Lutherans just said, okay, fine.</v>

00:38:24.480 --> 00:38:26.960
<v Speaker 1>We'll keep that term, we're fine with it, because we believe what</v>

00:38:26.960 --> 00:38:31.280
<v Speaker 1>Luther has taught, and so we agree with that.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>But to give sort of the abstracted out answer to the question</v>

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<v Speaker 1>and get into some specifics as well</v>

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<v Speaker 1>You have different levels at which you can answer that question, right?</v>

00:38:43.200 --> 00:38:45.760
<v Speaker 1>And you can do that with any denomination.</v>

00:38:45.760 --> 00:38:46.400
<v Speaker 1>And so</v>

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<v Speaker 1>the first one would be what is a Christian, right?</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Well, a Christian is one who believes in Christ crucified for sinners.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Right? You can expand that out, you can talk about all the</v>

00:38:59.520 --> 00:39:03.760
<v Speaker 1>different points in the Apostles Creed, the Nicene Creed, the Athanasian Creed,</v>

00:39:03.760 --> 00:39:06.560
<v Speaker 1>you can point to the Lord's Prayer, you can say, you believe</v>

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<v Speaker 1>the Ten Commandments, and you believe this, that, and the other, right?</v>

00:39:10.000 --> 00:39:13.600
<v Speaker 1>You can go through all those specific points, but ultimately, a Christian</v>

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<v Speaker 1>is one who believes in the gospel.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Which is why we can say that Adam was a Christian, because</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Adam believed Genesis three fifteen, spoken to him directly by God.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>That probably helps a little bit, but perhaps didn't help with the</v>

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<v Speaker 1>tree bit.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>But</v>

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<v Speaker 1>believing in the gospel is what makes a Christian.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>But in another sense, there are those who will believe that a</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Christian is simply someone who attends church, right?</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Much of the world says, well, he's a Christian, he goes to</v>

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<v Speaker 1>church, he must be a Christian.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>That doesn't make him a Christian in the ultimate sense of being</v>

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<v Speaker 1>a Christian.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>This gets back into the difference between being something essentially and being</v>

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<v Speaker 1>something according to believing in the tenets of it, right?</v>

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<v Speaker 1>And</v>

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<v Speaker 1>you know, it's the no true Scotsman thing again, right?</v>

00:39:58.800 --> 00:40:02.000
<v Speaker 1>They're you're Scottish because you're born Scottish.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Not because you agree with the design of the flag or you</v>

00:40:05.680 --> 00:40:07.920
<v Speaker 1>like Scotch or you love golf, right?</v>

00:40:07.920 --> 00:40:09.520
<v Speaker 1>That's not what makes you Scottish.</v>

00:40:09.520 --> 00:40:11.360
<v Speaker 1>You're Scottish because you're Scottish.</v>

00:40:11.360 --> 00:40:13.200
<v Speaker 1>You're American because you're American.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>That's something you are essentially.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Christianity is an ideology.</v>

00:40:17.440 --> 00:40:20.400
<v Speaker 1>In order to be a Christian, you actually have to believe the</v>

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<v Speaker 1>tenets of Christianity.</v>

00:40:22.480 --> 00:40:25.920
<v Speaker 1>You can't just say, I'm a Christian, and then you're a Christian.</v>

00:40:25.920 --> 00:40:27.360
<v Speaker 1>That's insufficient, right?</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Think of what Christ says.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Lord, Lord, did we not No, I never knew you.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>So to be a Christian you actually have to believe in the</v>

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<v Speaker 1>tenets of Christianity.</v>

00:40:38.320 --> 00:40:41.760
<v Speaker 1>By and large, what that means is believing what is taught in</v>

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<v Speaker 1>the creeds.</v>

00:40:42.480 --> 00:40:44.720
<v Speaker 1>There's a reason we have creeds, right?</v>

00:40:44.720 --> 00:40:48.160
<v Speaker 1>You have creeds because they're a summary of the faith founded in</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Scripture, and they are a short way to explain what do you</v>

00:40:52.320 --> 00:40:57.440
<v Speaker 1>believe? The Apostles' Creed is the short statement of the Christian faith.</v>

00:40:57.440 --> 00:40:57.760
<v Speaker 1>So</v>

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<v Speaker 1>that's ultimately what it means to be a Christian, right?</v>

00:41:01.280 --> 00:41:03.520
<v Speaker 1>It's belief in the tenets of Christianity.</v>

00:41:03.520 --> 00:41:08.000
<v Speaker 1>So to be a Lutheran is to believe in the exegesis of</v>

00:41:08.000 --> 00:41:13.040
<v Speaker 1>Christianity as set forth in the binding documents of the Lutheran Church.</v>

00:41:13.200 --> 00:41:15.920
<v Speaker 1>which would be the Book of Concord, which I don't think I</v>

00:41:15.920 --> 00:41:17.920
<v Speaker 1>actually have on my desk right now.</v>

00:41:17.920 --> 00:41:19.280
<v Speaker 1>I think it's over here somewhere.</v>

00:41:19.280 --> 00:41:19.520
<v Speaker 1>But</v>

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<v Speaker 1>the Book of Concord is one of the answers to what it</v>

00:41:24.080 --> 00:41:28.720
<v Speaker 1>means to be a Lutheran because that is ultimately the definition of</v>

00:41:28.720 --> 00:41:33.360
<v Speaker 1>Lutheran understanding of the Bible.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>So that is one of the answers to what is a Lutheran.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Do all Lutherans know everything taught in the Book of Concord?</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Well the answer is no.</v>

00:41:45.360 --> 00:41:48.880
<v Speaker 1>You can go to my timeline and find me catching pastors, Lutheran</v>

00:41:48.880 --> 00:41:51.680
<v Speaker 1>pastors, who don't know things that are taught in the Book of</v>

00:41:51.680 --> 00:41:53.040
<v Speaker 1>Concord Of Concord.</v>

00:41:53.040 --> 00:41:57.120
<v Speaker 1>And so, does that make them not Lutheran?</v>

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think that's fair.</v>

00:41:58.560 --> 00:42:00.640
<v Speaker 1>I actually don't believe it would be fair to say that no,</v>

00:42:00.640 --> 00:42:03.040
<v Speaker 1>you're not Lutheran because you don't know absolutely everything taught in the</v>

00:42:03.040 --> 00:42:04.800
<v Speaker 1>book of Concord.</v>

00:42:04.800 --> 00:42:08.240
<v Speaker 1>You can be a member of a church, a member of a</v>

00:42:08.240 --> 00:42:11.360
<v Speaker 1>denomination at different levels, as it were.</v>

00:42:11.360 --> 00:42:16.240
<v Speaker 1>And so you can be a Lutheran because you believe in what</v>

00:42:16.400 --> 00:42:18.720
<v Speaker 1>Lutheranism teaches.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>You can be a Lutheran because you're a Christian and your whole</v>

00:42:22.000 --> 00:42:25.360
<v Speaker 1>family's always been Lutheran and you just attend the Lutheran church, even</v>

00:42:25.360 --> 00:42:29.920
<v Speaker 1>if ultimately your doctrinal and theological knowledge is pretty shallow.</v>

00:42:29.920 --> 00:42:34.000
<v Speaker 1>In fact, in some cases, that's probably good for most people because</v>

00:42:34.320 --> 00:42:40.560
<v Speaker 1>if you just simply rely on Christ and maybe you don't understand,</v>

00:42:40.560 --> 00:42:42.800
<v Speaker 1>you know, the</v>

00:42:45.840 --> 00:42:48.960
<v Speaker 1>The union of God and man in Christ, right?</v>

00:42:49.200 --> 00:42:52.880
<v Speaker 1>You don't understand how the nature of</v>

00:42:53.760 --> 00:42:58.240
<v Speaker 1>man and the nature of God interact and how the attributes of</v>

00:42:58.240 --> 00:43:01.600
<v Speaker 1>one don't become properly the attributes of the other, but they can</v>

00:43:01.600 --> 00:43:05.600
<v Speaker 1>be exercised through the union because of the personal right, you don't</v>

00:43:05.520 --> 00:43:07.200
<v Speaker 1>have to get into all that.</v>

00:43:07.200 --> 00:43:10.160
<v Speaker 1>Most Christians don't understand all of that stuff, and that's not what</v>

00:43:10.160 --> 00:43:11.840
<v Speaker 1>ultimately makes you a Christian.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>the same as the very hyper technical specifics as between, say, Lutherans</v>

00:43:18.240 --> 00:43:18.960
<v Speaker 1>and Reforms.</v>

00:43:18.960 --> 00:43:22.240
<v Speaker 1>So if I were to argue with a Reformed theologian, we're going</v>

00:43:22.240 --> 00:43:25.200
<v Speaker 1>to get into some pretty hyper technical stuff.</v>

00:43:25.200 --> 00:43:29.200
<v Speaker 1>Do you have to believe on either side and understand all of</v>

00:43:29.200 --> 00:43:31.760
<v Speaker 1>that to be a Lutheran or a member of the Reformed Church?</v>

00:43:31.760 --> 00:43:33.280
<v Speaker 1>The answer is no.</v>

00:43:33.280 --> 00:43:37.360
<v Speaker 1>And so, the basic definition of being a Lutheran is to know</v>

00:43:37.360 --> 00:43:41.920
<v Speaker 1>the small catechism, and to agree with the small catechism, because that</v>

00:43:42.400 --> 00:43:43.600
<v Speaker 1>is the basic statement.</v>

00:43:43.600 --> 00:43:45.520
<v Speaker 1>It's what we teach to all Lutheran children.</v>

00:43:45.520 --> 00:43:47.680
<v Speaker 1>In fact, they memorize it.</v>

00:43:47.680 --> 00:43:50.880
<v Speaker 1>So that's another one of the answers you can give.</v>

00:43:50.880 --> 00:43:54.000
<v Speaker 1>But you can see there are different answers to this sort of</v>

00:43:54.000 --> 00:43:57.840
<v Speaker 1>question, depending on exactly what it is you mean.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>So, at the top level, as it were, the fullest definition of</v>

00:44:02.880 --> 00:44:05.920
<v Speaker 1>what is a Lutheran is the Book of Concord, because that is</v>

00:44:05.920 --> 00:44:09.120
<v Speaker 1>what we teach, that is what we hold, that is the statement</v>

00:44:09.120 --> 00:44:10.800
<v Speaker 1>of Lutheran belief.</v>

00:44:10.800 --> 00:44:14.880
<v Speaker 1>But at the basic level, at just a more functional, realistic level,</v>

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<v Speaker 1>it's the small catechism.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Because that's what everyone who joins a Lutheran church is supposed to</v>

00:44:20.720 --> 00:44:25.280
<v Speaker 1>believe. In fact, we typically have people explicitly state that they believe</v>

00:44:25.280 --> 00:44:29.280
<v Speaker 1>the teachings of the small catechism when they join the church.</v>

00:44:29.280 --> 00:44:32.000
<v Speaker 1>They don't always have someone say they believe in the entirety of</v>

00:44:32.000 --> 00:44:33.200
<v Speaker 1>the Book of Concord.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>I would hope that at least elders and others in positions of</v>

00:44:36.000 --> 00:44:39.200
<v Speaker 1>authority would read the Book of Concord and understand it, but again</v>

00:44:39.280 --> 00:44:41.840
<v Speaker 1>the average person doesn't really need to do that.</v>

00:44:42.160 --> 00:44:45.200
<v Speaker 1>You don't need all of the women in your church, for instance,</v>

00:44:45.200 --> 00:44:48.960
<v Speaker 1>trying to be a theologian and reading the Solid Declaration.</v>

00:44:48.960 --> 00:44:51.280
<v Speaker 1>The children in your church are not going to read it and</v>

00:44:51.280 --> 00:44:52.240
<v Speaker 1>understand it.</v>

00:44:52.240 --> 00:44:54.560
<v Speaker 1>But the small catechism they can understand.</v>

00:44:54.560 --> 00:44:58.080
<v Speaker 1>And that's going to be the same sort of different levels that</v>

00:44:58.080 --> 00:45:00.720
<v Speaker 1>you will find in any church.</v>

00:45:00.720 --> 00:45:05.760
<v Speaker 1>Because over in the Reformed camp, how many maybe some more in</v>

00:45:05.760 --> 00:45:09.680
<v Speaker 1>some reformed churches, but how many men in your church have actually</v>

00:45:09.680 --> 00:45:11.680
<v Speaker 1>read the Institutes?</v>

00:45:11.920 --> 00:45:14.800
<v Speaker 1>How many of those who read it understood it?</v>

00:45:15.600 --> 00:45:17.600
<v Speaker 1>So just because</v>

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<v Speaker 1>someone says he's a Christian doesn't mean he is, but just because</v>

00:45:23.520 --> 00:45:28.800
<v Speaker 1>someone doesn't understand all the nuances of a particular denomination, a particular</v>

00:45:28.800 --> 00:45:33.120
<v Speaker 1>tradition, doesn't mean he isn't a member of that tradition.</v>

00:45:33.520 --> 00:45:36.480
<v Speaker 1>So yes, it's not a question where there's sort of a cut</v>

00:45:36.480 --> 00:45:40.800
<v Speaker 1>and dry neat answer because it depends on what exactly it is</v>

00:45:40.800 --> 00:45:45.200
<v Speaker 1>you're asking and what exactly is being answered in response to that</v>

00:45:45.200 --> 00:45:48.960
<v Speaker 1>question. But hopefully that explains what it means to be a Lutheran.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>The basic answer is you believe the small catechism.</v>

00:45:51.760 --> 00:45:53.200
<v Speaker 1>You want to know what Lutherans believe?</v>

00:45:53.200 --> 00:45:54.800
<v Speaker 1>Read the small catechism.</v>

00:45:54.800 --> 00:45:57.840
<v Speaker 1>You want more information on what's in the small catechism?</v>

00:45:57.840 --> 00:46:01.440
<v Speaker 1>Read the Augsburg Confession, the Apology of the Solid Declaration.</v>

00:46:01.440 --> 00:46:04.000
<v Speaker 1>Read the small call articles for fun because it's fun to read</v>

00:46:04.000 --> 00:46:06.960
<v Speaker 1>Luther. You can read the power and primacy of the Pope if</v>

00:46:06.960 --> 00:46:08.960
<v Speaker 1>you want to know why we reject Rome.</v>

00:46:08.960 --> 00:46:13.520
<v Speaker 1>Right? There are more documents, but the basics the basics are all</v>

00:46:13.520 --> 00:46:15.040
<v Speaker 1>there in the small catechism.</v>

00:46:15.040 --> 00:46:17.040
<v Speaker 1>That is the basis of what we believe.</v>

00:46:17.040 --> 00:46:20.240
<v Speaker 1>That is the Lutheran exegesis of Scripture.</v>

00:46:20.240 --> 00:46:23.040
<v Speaker 1>And I am a Lutheran because I believe that is simply what</v>

00:46:23.040 --> 00:46:24.480
<v Speaker 1>Scripture teaches.</v>

00:46:24.480 --> 00:46:28.000
<v Speaker 1>I'm not a Lutheran because I like Luther, I'm not a Lutheran</v>

00:46:28.000 --> 00:46:30.400
<v Speaker 1>because I'm of German extraction.</v>

00:46:30.400 --> 00:46:33.920
<v Speaker 1>I'm a Lutheran because I believe that what is set forth in</v>

00:46:33.920 --> 00:46:38.160
<v Speaker 1>the small catechism specifically and in the book of Concord generally is</v>

00:46:38.160 --> 00:46:40.960
<v Speaker 1>consonant with Scripture on all points.</v>

00:46:40.960 --> 00:46:42.560
<v Speaker 1>That's why I'm a Lutheran.</v>

00:46:42.560 --> 00:46:46.320
<v Speaker 1>And so again, I believe it just means I am a Christian.</v>

00:46:46.320 --> 00:46:51.360
<v Speaker 1>We say Lutheran in order to distinguish from other groups because, for</v>

00:46:51.360 --> 00:46:56.080
<v Speaker 1>better or worse, we are not all united in our in understanding</v>

00:46:56.080 --> 00:46:58.400
<v Speaker 1>of Scripture and in what we teach.</v>

00:46:58.400 --> 00:46:59.520
<v Speaker 1>I wish that we were.</v>

00:46:59.520 --> 00:47:01.120
<v Speaker 1>It would be better if we were.</v>

00:47:01.120 --> 00:47:05.120
<v Speaker 1>We would be able to provide and present a unified front against</v>

00:47:05.120 --> 00:47:09.840
<v Speaker 1>so much evil in the world, but I would hope that at</v>

00:47:09.840 --> 00:47:12.560
<v Speaker 1>least we can all agree on some basics and</v>

00:47:13.440 --> 00:47:17.280
<v Speaker 1>cons and act in a concerted way to try to make things</v>

00:47:17.280 --> 00:47:18.320
<v Speaker 1>better, right?</v>

00:47:18.320 --> 00:47:21.520
<v Speaker 1>Just because we disagree on some specifics doesn't mean that we can't</v>

00:47:21.520 --> 00:47:22.240
<v Speaker 1>get along.</v>

00:47:22.240 --> 00:47:24.960
<v Speaker 1>We don't have to hate I don't have to hate the reformed</v>

00:47:24.960 --> 00:47:30.080
<v Speaker 1>or the Anglicans, whichever camp the Anglicans ultimately want to be in.</v>

00:47:30.080 --> 00:47:30.960
<v Speaker 1>We disagree.</v>

00:47:31.520 --> 00:47:35.280
<v Speaker 1>We're going to keep disagreeing, but we're Christian brothers and we can</v>

00:47:35.280 --> 00:47:36.240
<v Speaker 1>work together.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>And the same is true of the Roman Catholics, even though, yes,</v>

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<v Speaker 1>our confession certainly has some choice phrases to say about your Pope,</v>

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<v Speaker 1>but I've heard choice phrases from Roman Catholics about the Pope as</v>

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<v Speaker 1>well, so hopefully that answers the the question in a way that</v>

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<v Speaker 1>is actually useful.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>The next one is related.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>What are the minimum beliefs that are required for salvation?</v>

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<v Speaker 1>What level of doctrinal error puts someone outside the faith entirely, and</v>

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<v Speaker 1>perhaps most central to my question Do you think that someone being</v>

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<v Speaker 1>in severe error in terms of the law, that is being correct</v>

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<v Speaker 1>about the gospel and the identity of God, but being incorrect about</v>

00:48:18.560 --> 00:48:22.400
<v Speaker 1>some component of what obedience looks like, can on its own lead</v>

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<v Speaker 1>to damnation?</v>

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<v Speaker 1>This one again is going to have I think I can limit</v>

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<v Speaker 1>this one really to two different levels instead of getting into something</v>

00:48:31.760 --> 00:48:32.400
<v Speaker 1>that's a little</v>

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<v Speaker 1>longer, a little more nuanced, perhaps.</v>

00:48:37.840 --> 00:48:38.080
<v Speaker 1>But</v>

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<v Speaker 1>there are two different kinds of error.</v>

00:48:42.800 --> 00:48:46.400
<v Speaker 1>And really only one is truly error, right?</v>

00:48:46.400 --> 00:48:50.560
<v Speaker 1>Error is in this case a false belief.</v>

00:48:50.560 --> 00:48:55.280
<v Speaker 1>It is an unintentional false belief.</v>

00:48:55.280 --> 00:48:59.280
<v Speaker 1>It is something that is done with neither the intent to be</v>

00:48:59.280 --> 00:49:03.680
<v Speaker 1>in error or with knowledge that you are in fact in error.</v>

00:49:03.680 --> 00:49:06.720
<v Speaker 1>Those are related, of course.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>God does overlook error.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Scripture doesn't give us the exact contours of that, but it literally</v>

00:49:13.840 --> 00:49:16.480
<v Speaker 1>says that God overlooks error.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>And so God takes that into account.</v>

00:49:19.600 --> 00:49:20.480
<v Speaker 1>God is perfect.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>He knows what you knew, when you knew it, the depth to</v>

00:49:23.280 --> 00:49:26.000
<v Speaker 1>which you knew it, if you were confronted with your error.</v>

00:49:26.000 --> 00:49:28.160
<v Speaker 1>He knows all of those little specifics.</v>

00:49:28.160 --> 00:49:32.080
<v Speaker 1>And so his judgment is absolutely perfect because he can take everything</v>

00:49:32.080 --> 00:49:33.280
<v Speaker 1>into account.</v>

00:49:33.280 --> 00:49:35.200
<v Speaker 1>He knows all of your thoughts.</v>

00:49:35.200 --> 00:49:39.920
<v Speaker 1>He has perfect knowledge in a way that no human judge could</v>

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<v Speaker 1>ever have.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>And so you can rely, of course, on God being perfect in</v>

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<v Speaker 1>his judgment, perfect in his assessment, perfect in his sentence.</v>

00:49:50.560 --> 00:49:50.960
<v Speaker 1>But But</v>

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<v Speaker 1>don't worry too much about those who are in some kind of</v>

00:49:58.080 --> 00:50:02.720
<v Speaker 1>error like the ones you mentioned there, you referenced anyway.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>I don't mean not to worry about them in the sense of</v>

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<v Speaker 1>trying to get them out of the error.</v>

00:50:06.720 --> 00:50:09.040
<v Speaker 1>If you have the opportunity, by all means try to get them</v>

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<v Speaker 1>out of the error.</v>

00:50:10.000 --> 00:50:14.320
<v Speaker 1>But if someone has mistaken beliefs about</v>

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<v Speaker 1>the specifics of what it is What it is Christians are supposed</v>

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<v Speaker 1>to do with regard to good works, right?</v>

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<v Speaker 1>That's not going to damn him.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>He's in error.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Like I said earlier, most men are in error in some way</v>

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<v Speaker 1>in some things.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Obviously I'm Lutheran.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>I believe the Reformed are in error with regard to election.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>I believe the Roman Catholics are in error with regard to transubstantiation.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>In turn, the Roman Catholics believe that I am in error with</v>

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<v Speaker 1>regard</v>

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<v Speaker 1>to the real presence, the way that the Lutherans interpret that in</v>

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<v Speaker 1>the supper the sacramental union, we call it the Sacramental Union because</v>

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<v Speaker 1>the Reformed believe that we're in error with our formulation of the</v>

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<v Speaker 1>real presence.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>And so of those three groups, we all believe the other groups</v>

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<v Speaker 1>are in error, mutually.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>That doesn't mean that everyone in that camp is damned or this</v>

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<v Speaker 1>camp is damned or all the Lutherans are damned at the Reformed</v>

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<v Speaker 1>happen to be right.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>I don't believe they are, of course.</v>

00:51:14.720 --> 00:51:17.360
<v Speaker 1>Because ultimately the core of the faith, as I said earlier in</v>

00:51:17.360 --> 00:51:20.080
<v Speaker 1>the episode, is Christ crucified for sinners.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Do you believe in the gospel?</v>

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<v Speaker 1>I'm never going to be a gospel reductionist.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not going to say nothing else matters because all truth is</v>

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<v Speaker 1>one. All error is bad.</v>

00:51:31.280 --> 00:51:34.080
<v Speaker 1>All error is a moral failing.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>It's not just an intellectual failing, it is a moral failing to</v>

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<v Speaker 1>be wrong.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>And so I'm never going to trivialize or minimize that, but I</v>

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<v Speaker 1>am similar not going to say that you're damned because of it,</v>

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<v Speaker 1>because that's not what scripture says.</v>

00:51:46.800 --> 00:51:48.240
<v Speaker 1>It's not what God says.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>God says we should try to be perfect, right?</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Be perfect as God is perfect.</v>

00:51:53.840 --> 00:51:56.960
<v Speaker 1>But Scripture is also very clear that we can't do that.</v>

00:51:56.960 --> 00:51:59.600
<v Speaker 1>That's one of the reasons we need a savior, because we're not</v>

00:51:59.600 --> 00:52:04.400
<v Speaker 1>perfect. Christ paid that price for all of our sins, for all</v>

00:52:04.400 --> 00:52:11.360
<v Speaker 1>of our errors, but we should desire to believe correctly.</v>

00:52:11.360 --> 00:52:14.400
<v Speaker 1>We should desire to do the things that God has commanded that</v>

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<v Speaker 1>we do and not do the things he is commanded we not</v>

00:52:17.280 --> 00:52:21.120
<v Speaker 1>do. It does not mean that we are damned when we fail.</v>

00:52:21.120 --> 00:52:22.400
<v Speaker 1>Because that's just sin.</v>

00:52:22.400 --> 00:52:24.800
<v Speaker 1>Sin is missing the mark, right?</v>

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<v Speaker 1>We are going to sin, we are going to continue to sin</v>

00:52:27.760 --> 00:52:29.840
<v Speaker 1>even if we are Christians.</v>

00:52:29.840 --> 00:52:32.400
<v Speaker 1>That's one of the reasons we pray the Lord's prayer, right?</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Forgive us our trespasses.</v>

00:52:34.080 --> 00:52:37.280
<v Speaker 1>We need to pray that all the time because we're always committing</v>

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<v Speaker 1>some kind of sin.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>We have the inclination towards sin with sin which is yes itself</v>

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<v Speaker 1>sin. I know the Roman Catholics are going to disagree with me,</v>

00:52:43.600 --> 00:52:45.200
<v Speaker 1>concupiscence is sin.</v>

00:52:45.200 --> 00:52:48.000
<v Speaker 1>Desiring to do that which is wicked is sin.</v>

00:52:48.000 --> 00:52:51.120
<v Speaker 1>Acting on it is another sin.</v>

00:52:51.120 --> 00:52:54.640
<v Speaker 1>We recognize this in our our law as well, in some cases.</v>

00:52:54.480 --> 00:52:59.680
<v Speaker 1>for instance, the conspiracy to commit a crime is a crime.</v>

00:52:59.680 --> 00:53:02.800
<v Speaker 1>Committing the crime is another crime.</v>

00:53:02.800 --> 00:53:05.200
<v Speaker 1>Committing it in a part of a conspiracy may be a third</v>

00:53:05.200 --> 00:53:05.680
<v Speaker 1>crime as well.</v>

00:53:05.680 --> 00:53:09.040
<v Speaker 1>So So we recognize this in our positive law, it's not just</v>

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<v Speaker 1>something that we recognize in the moral law because the positive law</v>

00:53:12.240 --> 00:53:14.960
<v Speaker 1>in some ways does flow from God's moral law and it should</v>

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<v Speaker 1>do so.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>But the second aspect of this is is once your error has</v>

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<v Speaker 1>been rebuked, if you persist in that error, it is a different</v>

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<v Speaker 1>thing. It can then transform into impenitent sin.</v>

00:53:34.640 --> 00:53:36.960
<v Speaker 1>That's when you are in danger.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Now</v>

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<v Speaker 1>you have to recognize here that there are again two different sort</v>

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<v Speaker 1>of aspects or paths here, right</v>

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<v Speaker 1>On the one hand, let's say you rebuke someone.</v>

00:53:49.680 --> 00:53:53.600
<v Speaker 1>You bring up a passage of scripture, you say, what you just</v>

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<v Speaker 1>said disagrees with this passage of scripture, you're wrong.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Well, he has two ways he can he has multiple ways he</v>

00:54:00.240 --> 00:54:02.640
<v Speaker 1>can react, but two key ways he can react.</v>

00:54:02.640 --> 00:54:07.360
<v Speaker 1>He can agree with your interpretation and recognize he's wrong, or he</v>

00:54:07.360 --> 00:54:10.720
<v Speaker 1>can disagree with your interpretation and not rec we're gonna say you're</v>

00:54:10.640 --> 00:54:13.680
<v Speaker 1>right for the sake of the hypothetical and then not realize he's</v>

00:54:13.680 --> 00:54:18.080
<v Speaker 1>wrong. Well, there's a difference between those two, right?</v>

00:54:18.080 --> 00:54:23.920
<v Speaker 1>Because in the one case, he's still wrong, but he's not willfully</v>

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<v Speaker 1>wrong. So it does depend on the intent.</v>

00:54:28.160 --> 00:54:29.920
<v Speaker 1>Intent matters.</v>

00:54:29.920 --> 00:54:33.760
<v Speaker 1>It matters in our civil courts, it matters in our criminal courts,</v>

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<v Speaker 1>it matters in God's court.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Because if you intend to do evil, that is worse.</v>

00:54:39.680 --> 00:54:44.560
<v Speaker 1>If you do evil knowingly, it is worse than doing it accidentally.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>So if someone is rebuked and doesn't believe you, right, for whatever</v>

00:54:49.440 --> 00:54:50.400
<v Speaker 1>reason he doesn't believe.</v>

00:54:50.400 --> 00:54:51.600
<v Speaker 1>He doesn't understand your argument.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>He thinks that you're insane.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>He thinks you're evil.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Whatever it is.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>He's still an error.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>That's different if he goes, I see what that says.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>That's not my God.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>That's where you're in danger.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>That person is now in danger of damnation.</v>

00:55:09.200 --> 00:55:12.880
<v Speaker 1>He is in danger of hellfire if he is just rejecting part</v>

00:55:12.880 --> 00:55:15.200
<v Speaker 1>of scripture because he doesn't think that's his God.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>I God God's not like that.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>God wouldn't do that.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>You don't get to disagree with God in that way.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>And so when you read the story of Sodom and Gomorrah, and</v>

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<v Speaker 1>you see very clearly that God burned Sodom and Gomorrah to ash</v>

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<v Speaker 1>for sodomy, for homosexuality, for specifically male homosexuality, right?</v>

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<v Speaker 1>You see that clearly in the pages of scripture.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>There is no denying that.</v>

00:55:37.920 --> 00:55:41.600
<v Speaker 1>If someone reads that and then says, I don't believe that.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>That's not my God.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>God would never do God would never burn a city because of</v>

00:55:46.960 --> 00:55:51.200
<v Speaker 1>the sexual wickedness of the inhabitants of that city.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>That man is in danger.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Because that man is reading the plain word of God, the clear</v>

00:55:56.560 --> 00:56:00.080
<v Speaker 1>word of God, and rejecting the clear teaching.</v>

00:56:00.080 --> 00:56:02.640
<v Speaker 1>That is immense danger.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>And so it depends.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>The answer to your question ultimately is that it that it depends</v>

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<v Speaker 1>on the nature of the error, and it depends on the intent</v>

00:56:12.640 --> 00:56:14.800
<v Speaker 1>behind the error.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Because intent can transform something from error into willful wickedness, into impenitent</v>

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<v Speaker 1>sin. Now, to answer another aspect of the question that was definitely</v>

00:56:27.200 --> 00:56:31.680
<v Speaker 1>asked there in the question, there's a difference between rejecting core parts</v>

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<v Speaker 1>of the faith and being in error about</v>

00:56:36.000 --> 00:56:37.520
<v Speaker 1>Ancillary matters.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Not unimportant matters, but ancillary matters, right?</v>

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<v Speaker 1>So if someone thinks, for instance, that the moral law, let's let's</v>

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<v Speaker 1>say even less than that, someone who's confused about the difference between</v>

00:56:49.440 --> 00:56:51.360
<v Speaker 1>the civil law and the moral law.</v>

00:56:51.360 --> 00:56:53.920
<v Speaker 1>Right? He looks at the Old Testament and says, Well, they have</v>

00:56:53.920 --> 00:56:57.840
<v Speaker 1>these punishments for these crimes, and these sins are treated in this</v>

00:56:57.840 --> 00:57:02.400
<v Speaker 1>way, and this is an abomination, and that's this, and doesn't understand</v>

00:57:02.400 --> 00:57:07.280
<v Speaker 1>it, perhaps, that's a different thing from saying, I don't believe Jesus</v>

00:57:07.280 --> 00:57:09.360
<v Speaker 1>was God.</v>

00:57:09.360 --> 00:57:11.680
<v Speaker 1>You're not saved if you don't believe that Jesus was God.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>You can't do that.</v>

00:57:12.240 --> 00:57:15.280
<v Speaker 1>You can't reject a core tenet of the faith.</v>

00:57:15.280 --> 00:57:15.600
<v Speaker 1>And</v>

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<v Speaker 1>one of the best ways to look at that is again the</v>

00:57:18.400 --> 00:57:21.680
<v Speaker 1>creeds. Look at what is in the Apostles' Creed.</v>

00:57:21.680 --> 00:57:26.240
<v Speaker 1>Anyone who rejects any part of the Apostles' Creed is in danger</v>

00:57:26.240 --> 00:57:27.600
<v Speaker 1>of hellfire.</v>

00:57:27.840 --> 00:57:32.640
<v Speaker 1>If someone just doesn't understand the distinction between the civil law and</v>

00:57:32.640 --> 00:57:35.680
<v Speaker 1>the moral law in the Old Testament and thinks that, well, that</v>

00:57:35.680 --> 00:57:39.680
<v Speaker 1>was then and this is now, and granted, without hopefully getting into</v>

00:57:40.000 --> 00:57:43.600
<v Speaker 1>thinking God changed, right, you can't do that, but if he's just</v>

00:57:43.600 --> 00:57:46.080
<v Speaker 1>confused, that's a different thing.</v>

00:57:46.080 --> 00:57:49.120
<v Speaker 1>It's still sin, he's still an error, he needs to be rebuke</v>

00:57:49.280 --> 00:57:53.840
<v Speaker 1>rebuked, but that alone is not going to damn him.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>So there's a dis there's a distinction there, a very important distinction</v>

00:57:56.800 --> 00:58:01.280
<v Speaker 1>between the core tenets of the faith and things that are not</v>

00:58:01.520 --> 00:58:02.880
<v Speaker 1>core to the faith.</v>

00:58:02.880 --> 00:58:07.040
<v Speaker 1>But again, all truth matters, and so the error is still sinful.</v>

00:58:07.040 --> 00:58:10.320
<v Speaker 1>He should not remain in that error, and once rebuked, then it</v>

00:58:10.320 --> 00:58:13.920
<v Speaker 1>can become impenitent sin.</v>

00:58:13.920 --> 00:58:18.080
<v Speaker 1>Which is, you know, one of the reasons that sometimes for certain</v>

00:58:18.080 --> 00:58:19.600
<v Speaker 1>men it's better not to know, right?</v>

00:58:19.600 --> 00:58:24.160
<v Speaker 1>Because if they know, then well now you're responsible.</v>

00:58:24.160 --> 00:58:26.720
<v Speaker 1>Now that you've been rebuked, you have a duty to do something</v>

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<v Speaker 1>in response to that rebuke.</v>

00:58:28.480 --> 00:58:32.400
<v Speaker 1>Whereas before you were simply an error.</v>

00:58:32.400 --> 00:58:35.840
<v Speaker 1>But the overall answer then to the question is it depends on</v>

00:58:35.840 --> 00:58:38.160
<v Speaker 1>a lot of specific moving parts.</v>

00:58:38.160 --> 00:58:41.520
<v Speaker 1>It's similar to what you would have in any given criminal case,</v>

00:58:41.520 --> 00:58:45.520
<v Speaker 1>because of course ultimately When you start looking at how scripture is</v>

00:58:46.640 --> 00:58:51.760
<v Speaker 1>sin's a crime, God is a judge in a criminal court.</v>

00:58:51.760 --> 00:58:53.600
<v Speaker 1>That's one of the best ways to look at it.</v>

00:58:53.600 --> 00:58:58.880
<v Speaker 1>And I constantly run into things in theology where I can use</v>

00:58:58.880 --> 00:59:04.960
<v Speaker 1>a legal analogy that is directly on point, if not virtually identical.</v>

00:59:04.960 --> 00:59:06.560
<v Speaker 1>It's the language that God used.</v>

00:59:06.560 --> 00:59:11.520
<v Speaker 1>I know the EO particularly don't like that fact, but God's the</v>

00:59:11.520 --> 00:59:13.760
<v Speaker 1>one who calls himself a judge.</v>

00:59:13.760 --> 00:59:16.640
<v Speaker 1>God's the one who calls it a judgment.</v>

00:59:16.640 --> 00:59:19.360
<v Speaker 1>God's the one who treats these things as a crime.</v>

00:59:19.360 --> 00:59:21.520
<v Speaker 1>God's the one who has a court.</v>

00:59:21.520 --> 00:59:25.520
<v Speaker 1>I mean Satan acts as a prosecuting attorney, till he was cast</v>

00:59:25.520 --> 00:59:27.360
<v Speaker 1>out of heaven anyway.</v>

00:59:27.360 --> 00:59:32.640
<v Speaker 1>It's very clear that this is conducted in a legal manner.</v>

00:59:32.640 --> 00:59:35.600
<v Speaker 1>Even the way that we are saved, think about it.</v>

00:59:35.600 --> 00:59:38.400
<v Speaker 1>You're not made righteous in this life.</v>

00:59:38.400 --> 00:59:40.240
<v Speaker 1>Yes, there's a process of sanctification.</v>

00:59:40.240 --> 00:59:46.560
<v Speaker 1>You're improved somewhat in this life, but you are declared innocent by</v>

00:59:46.560 --> 00:59:50.320
<v Speaker 1>virtue of Christ's sacrifice.</v>

00:59:51.200 --> 00:59:52.400
<v Speaker 1>these are legal terms.</v>

00:59:52.400 --> 00:59:54.960
<v Speaker 1>We're dealing in legal theories here.</v>

00:59:54.960 --> 00:59:57.600
<v Speaker 1>That is simply the way that scripture speaks about these things.</v>

00:59:57.600 --> 01:00:00.240
<v Speaker 1>It's the way Christian needs to think about these things.</v>

01:00:05.120 --> 01:00:07.920
<v Speaker 1>The next one is also a short question.</v>

01:00:07.920 --> 01:00:12.080
<v Speaker 1>How can scripture be inerrant if the canon is errant?</v>

01:00:12.320 --> 01:00:14.800
<v Speaker 1>And I think there are really two questions here, so I'll answer</v>

01:00:14.800 --> 01:00:16.080
<v Speaker 1>both of those.</v>

01:00:16.240 --> 01:00:22.320
<v Speaker 1>The easy one is that the canon of Scripture is not errant.</v>

01:00:22.320 --> 01:00:24.400
<v Speaker 1>Can't be.</v>

01:00:24.400 --> 01:00:27.520
<v Speaker 1>And the reason for that, of course, is that God is the</v>

01:00:27.520 --> 01:00:32.240
<v Speaker 1>author, ultimately the author, of the canon of Scripture.</v>

01:00:32.240 --> 01:00:36.160
<v Speaker 1>Nothing God has written, or caused to be written by the hands</v>

01:00:36.160 --> 01:00:39.760
<v Speaker 1>of men, via inspiration, is in error.</v>

01:00:40.080 --> 01:00:41.920
<v Speaker 1>It is inerrant.</v>

01:00:42.640 --> 01:00:44.960
<v Speaker 1>Capitalize that I go ahead.</v>

01:00:44.960 --> 01:00:48.320
<v Speaker 1>It is perfect in all particulars.</v>

01:00:49.840 --> 01:00:54.320
<v Speaker 1>The other part of this, and really perhaps the more interesting question,</v>

01:00:54.320 --> 01:00:58.640
<v Speaker 1>right? The underlying question that causes people trouble.</v>

01:00:58.640 --> 01:01:02.000
<v Speaker 1>How do we know what the canon of scripture is?</v>

01:01:02.240 --> 01:01:04.640
<v Speaker 1>And we've got into this before a little bit.</v>

01:01:04.640 --> 01:01:07.440
<v Speaker 1>Lutherans don't have a canon of scripture, and so that's sort of</v>

01:01:07.440 --> 01:01:10.080
<v Speaker 1>the easy answer for the Lutherans we just sort of say we</v>

01:01:10.080 --> 01:01:12.640
<v Speaker 1>don't have one and then we scuttle out of the room, right?</v>

01:01:12.640 --> 01:01:15.200
<v Speaker 1>Leave everyone else to fight over it.</v>

01:01:15.200 --> 01:01:19.200
<v Speaker 1>Which is it has its time and its place, but how do</v>

01:01:19.200 --> 01:01:19.440
<v Speaker 1>we know</v>

01:01:20.400 --> 01:01:22.320
<v Speaker 1>which books are in scripture?</v>

01:01:22.320 --> 01:01:25.200
<v Speaker 1>In part, scripture authenticates scripture.</v>

01:01:25.200 --> 01:01:29.120
<v Speaker 1>Scripture has cross-references all over the place.</v>

01:01:29.120 --> 01:01:32.560
<v Speaker 1>And so if you pick something up and find zero references to</v>

01:01:32.560 --> 01:01:35.360
<v Speaker 1>that thing, and and then that thing doesn't reference any or part</v>

01:01:35.360 --> 01:01:39.040
<v Speaker 1>of scripture, you already pretty much know that's not scripture.</v>

01:01:39.040 --> 01:01:40.960
<v Speaker 1>You can pretty much leave that one aside.</v>

01:01:40.960 --> 01:01:41.760
<v Speaker 1>Maybe it's useful.</v>

01:01:41.760 --> 01:01:43.040
<v Speaker 1>Maybe it's Maccabees, right?</v>

01:01:43.040 --> 01:01:46.720
<v Speaker 1>Maybe it's a book that isn't part of Scripture, but is useful</v>

01:01:46.960 --> 01:01:48.080
<v Speaker 1>as history.</v>

01:01:48.080 --> 01:01:50.320
<v Speaker 1>It's useful in another way.</v>

01:01:50.320 --> 01:01:54.080
<v Speaker 1>Just because something is not scripture doesn't mean it's useless.</v>

01:01:54.080 --> 01:01:57.200
<v Speaker 1>Plenty of things are useful and not scripture.</v>

01:01:58.400 --> 01:02:01.200
<v Speaker 1>How do we know that the canon of scripture exists, right?</v>

01:02:01.200 --> 01:02:02.880
<v Speaker 1>What is the canon of scripture?</v>

01:02:02.880 --> 01:02:06.720
<v Speaker 1>That's sort of a fundamental underlying question here.</v>

01:02:06.720 --> 01:02:07.040
<v Speaker 1>And</v>

01:02:08.240 --> 01:02:12.800
<v Speaker 1>it's the difference between knowing the canon and defining the canon, right?</v>

01:02:14.720 --> 01:02:15.600
<v Speaker 1>This is</v>

01:02:16.480 --> 01:02:21.360
<v Speaker 1>this is an important point because this gets into sort of the</v>

01:02:21.360 --> 01:02:25.600
<v Speaker 1>core of some of the objections to scripture and things like that.</v>

01:02:25.600 --> 01:02:32.240
<v Speaker 1>The canon of a particular author is defined by the fact that</v>

01:02:32.240 --> 01:02:34.880
<v Speaker 1>the author wrote the things.</v>

01:02:34.880 --> 01:02:36.160
<v Speaker 1>Right? And so</v>

01:02:37.040 --> 01:02:44.560
<v Speaker 1>I can look at my shelves here and say, you know,</v>

01:02:44.560 --> 01:02:46.080
<v Speaker 1>I have some books by Luther.</v>

01:02:46.080 --> 01:02:48.000
<v Speaker 1>We'll go back to Luther just because I have him on my</v>

01:02:48.000 --> 01:02:49.040
<v Speaker 1>shelves here and</v>

01:02:50.080 --> 01:02:56.160
<v Speaker 1>I have some books by various other authors as well.</v>

01:02:56.160 --> 01:03:02.960
<v Speaker 1>What qualifies those books as being part of the ouvoie, the canon</v>

01:03:02.960 --> 01:03:05.200
<v Speaker 1>of that particular author.</v>

01:03:05.200 --> 01:03:07.280
<v Speaker 1>The fact that he wrote them.</v>

01:03:07.280 --> 01:03:08.960
<v Speaker 1>That's it.</v>

01:03:08.960 --> 01:03:13.440
<v Speaker 1>It is a book by that author, it is authored by that</v>

01:03:13.440 --> 01:03:16.480
<v Speaker 1>author, if he in fact authored it.</v>

01:03:16.560 --> 01:03:21.280
<v Speaker 1>It's practically tautological, but that's because it is the essence of the</v>

01:03:21.280 --> 01:03:24.640
<v Speaker 1>thing. And so you'll have those who will say, How is it</v>

01:03:24.640 --> 01:03:28.720
<v Speaker 1>that we have this can because the canon pre exists.</v>

01:03:28.720 --> 01:03:31.040
<v Speaker 1>Because God is the author of the canon.</v>

01:03:32.000 --> 01:03:36.000
<v Speaker 1>How we know the canon is a separate question.</v>

01:03:36.000 --> 01:03:39.440
<v Speaker 1>Whether or not it exists is a core matter.</v>

01:03:39.440 --> 01:03:44.560
<v Speaker 1>If you believe that God wrote anything, caused anything to be written,</v>

01:03:44.560 --> 01:03:50.240
<v Speaker 1>then the canon exists independently of whether we have access to it,</v>

01:03:50.240 --> 01:03:53.280
<v Speaker 1>whether we have all of it, whether we know how to understand</v>

01:03:53.280 --> 01:03:59.120
<v Speaker 1>it, whether we whether we accurately identify which books belong to it.</v>

01:03:59.120 --> 01:04:05.120
<v Speaker 1>For instance, Martin Luther wrote some number of works during his life.</v>

01:04:05.120 --> 01:04:10.640
<v Speaker 1>The Weimar Ausgaba, the complete works of Luther in the Weimar edition,</v>

01:04:10.640 --> 01:04:14.560
<v Speaker 1>supposedly contain everything he wrote.</v>

01:04:14.560 --> 01:04:17.280
<v Speaker 1>Could we find something else that he wrote?</v>

01:04:17.280 --> 01:04:20.720
<v Speaker 1>Sure. Could we have lost things that he wrote?</v>

01:04:20.720 --> 01:04:25.600
<v Speaker 1>Sure. That would mean that we have a partial canon with regard</v>

01:04:25.600 --> 01:04:26.560
<v Speaker 1>to Luther.</v>

01:04:26.560 --> 01:04:29.520
<v Speaker 1>We don't have the totality of his works because we lost some</v>

01:04:29.520 --> 01:04:31.760
<v Speaker 1>along the way.</v>

01:04:31.760 --> 01:04:35.200
<v Speaker 1>If for instance we have we have the Bible, right?</v>

01:04:35.520 --> 01:04:39.840
<v Speaker 1>And let's say a thousand years from now, somehow they lose the</v>

01:04:39.840 --> 01:04:42.160
<v Speaker 1>book of Numbers.</v>

01:04:43.040 --> 01:04:46.240
<v Speaker 1>Does that mean that Numbers is not part of the canon?</v>

01:04:46.240 --> 01:04:51.760
<v Speaker 1>No. Because Because God, being the author of the book, this time</v>

01:04:51.920 --> 01:04:55.680
<v Speaker 1>through Moses, but God being the author of the book, it is</v>

01:04:55.680 --> 01:04:57.920
<v Speaker 1>part of God's canon.</v>

01:04:57.920 --> 01:05:03.520
<v Speaker 1>Just because, in this hypothetical, our descendants in a thousand years no</v>

01:05:03.520 --> 01:05:06.720
<v Speaker 1>longer have that book doesn't mean the book ceases to be part</v>

01:05:06.720 --> 01:05:07.760
<v Speaker 1>of the canon.</v>

01:05:07.760 --> 01:05:10.960
<v Speaker 1>It means they no longer have access to it, it means they</v>

01:05:10.960 --> 01:05:12.240
<v Speaker 1>now have a partial canon.</v>

01:05:12.960 --> 01:05:14.800
<v Speaker 1>It's a different thing.</v>

01:05:14.800 --> 01:05:18.560
<v Speaker 1>And so the canon is inerrant.</v>

01:05:18.560 --> 01:05:24.800
<v Speaker 1>Whether or not a particular group has that inerrant canon is a</v>

01:05:25.200 --> 01:05:27.920
<v Speaker 1>separate question.</v>

01:05:27.920 --> 01:05:30.640
<v Speaker 1>And I don't know that I want to get too deeply into</v>

01:05:30.640 --> 01:05:33.520
<v Speaker 1>how we know which books are part of the canon, because that's</v>

01:05:33.520 --> 01:05:37.360
<v Speaker 1>a long discussion, and it gets somewhat involved, and I'd probably want</v>

01:05:37.360 --> 01:05:39.520
<v Speaker 1>to bring up a bunch of exhibits and things, but</v>

01:05:41.440 --> 01:05:45.200
<v Speaker 1>The existence of the canon is an independent thing from whether or</v>

01:05:45.200 --> 01:05:48.800
<v Speaker 1>not any particular group at any particular time has the totality of</v>

01:05:48.800 --> 01:05:51.680
<v Speaker 1>the canon.</v>

01:05:51.680 --> 01:05:54.800
<v Speaker 1>Related, but distinct things.</v>

01:05:54.800 --> 01:05:57.600
<v Speaker 1>It's vitally important to keep that in mind.</v>

01:05:57.600 --> 01:06:01.360
<v Speaker 1>The canon as it exists with regard to God having authored these</v>

01:06:01.360 --> 01:06:05.680
<v Speaker 1>things is inerrant by definition.</v>

01:06:05.680 --> 01:06:12.080
<v Speaker 1>Whether or not any particular written version of the Bible, printed version,</v>

01:06:12.080 --> 01:06:14.960
<v Speaker 1>say the Masoretic text that we have, right?</v>

01:06:14.960 --> 01:06:20.240
<v Speaker 1>That's errant, because the Masoretic text has corruptions from the Jews in</v>

01:06:20.240 --> 01:06:23.440
<v Speaker 1>it. And so does it still contain the Word of God?</v>

01:06:23.440 --> 01:06:25.520
<v Speaker 1>The answer is yes.</v>

01:06:25.520 --> 01:06:27.280
<v Speaker 1>Is it the Word of God?</v>

01:06:27.280 --> 01:06:30.160
<v Speaker 1>I would have to say no with regard to the Masoretic text</v>

01:06:30.240 --> 01:06:34.240
<v Speaker 1>because of those corruptions before the Jews, but it contains the Word</v>

01:06:34.240 --> 01:06:35.520
<v Speaker 1>of God.</v>

01:06:35.520 --> 01:06:40.720
<v Speaker 1>And so it is a partially correct version of the canon.</v>

01:06:40.720 --> 01:06:44.880
<v Speaker 1>It is not the perfect version that God inspired.</v>

01:06:45.200 --> 01:06:47.840
<v Speaker 1>We have that, of course, that's the Septuagint.</v>

01:06:47.840 --> 01:06:50.560
<v Speaker 1>Thankfully we have that as well, because God said he would preserve</v>

01:06:50.560 --> 01:06:51.440
<v Speaker 1>his word.</v>

01:06:51.440 --> 01:06:53.120
<v Speaker 1>We rely on God.</v>

01:06:53.120 --> 01:06:56.480
<v Speaker 1>Which is another aspect of this, of course, and I think I</v>

01:06:56.480 --> 01:06:58.800
<v Speaker 1>think I'll finish this answer here because I don't want to get</v>

01:06:58.800 --> 01:07:00.480
<v Speaker 1>too deeply into it.</v>

01:07:00.480 --> 01:07:00.800
<v Speaker 1>But</v>

01:07:03.280 --> 01:07:03.600
<v Speaker 1>God</v>

01:07:04.880 --> 01:07:07.360
<v Speaker 1>states that he will preserve his word.</v>

01:07:07.360 --> 01:07:11.920
<v Speaker 1>If we believe God, then we must believe that he has preserved</v>

01:07:11.920 --> 01:07:13.040
<v Speaker 1>His Word.</v>

01:07:13.040 --> 01:07:14.800
<v Speaker 1>Where did He preserve it?</v>

01:07:14.800 --> 01:07:16.720
<v Speaker 1>Because it has to be preserved, right?</v>

01:07:16.720 --> 01:07:20.880
<v Speaker 1>If it is just unknown somewhere it's not in a cave somewhere,</v>

01:07:20.880 --> 01:07:24.720
<v Speaker 1>right? It's the Septuagint, because that's what God preserved for us, it's</v>

01:07:24.640 --> 01:07:28.480
<v Speaker 1>what God preserved for the early church, it's what Christ Himself used.</v>

01:07:28.480 --> 01:07:31.920
<v Speaker 1>He preserved his word because he promised that he would.</v>

01:07:31.920 --> 01:07:35.600
<v Speaker 1>So when we believe God, we believe that He preserved His Word.</v>

01:07:35.600 --> 01:07:38.640
<v Speaker 1>And we find that he actually did.</v>

01:07:38.640 --> 01:07:41.440
<v Speaker 1>Again, one of the minor proofs of the fact that God does</v>

01:07:41.440 --> 01:07:44.720
<v Speaker 1>exist. It is he is the God of Scripture.</v>

01:07:44.720 --> 01:07:47.680
<v Speaker 1>But answer for another time, right?</v>

01:07:47.680 --> 01:07:53.600
<v Speaker 1>I think that pretty much addresses how we can know that scripture</v>

01:07:53.600 --> 01:07:58.240
<v Speaker 1>is inerrant and in what way we mean that scripture, first that</v>

01:07:58.320 --> 01:08:01.040
<v Speaker 1>what we mean by scripture, and then second that we mean that</v>

01:08:01.040 --> 01:08:07.360
<v Speaker 1>scripture is inerrant because it's that distinction between the thing existing and</v>

01:08:07.680 --> 01:08:12.960
<v Speaker 1>a particular instance of it being in error or not, right?</v>

01:08:12.960 --> 01:08:15.840
<v Speaker 1>A quick additional example.</v>

01:08:15.840 --> 01:08:18.640
<v Speaker 1>There was the thing called the Wicked Bible at one point.</v>

01:08:18.640 --> 01:08:20.640
<v Speaker 1>It had a single misprint.</v>

01:08:20.640 --> 01:08:23.680
<v Speaker 1>It said thou shalt commit adultery.</v>

01:08:23.680 --> 01:08:25.520
<v Speaker 1>That was errant.</v>

01:08:25.520 --> 01:08:29.200
<v Speaker 1>It did not mean that there was no inerrant word of God.</v>

01:08:29.200 --> 01:08:31.840
<v Speaker 1>It meant the printer made a mistake.</v>

01:08:31.840 --> 01:08:36.320
<v Speaker 1>And so that printing, with regard to that one line, that one</v>

01:08:36.320 --> 01:08:39.840
<v Speaker 1>word, was an error, it was errant.</v>

01:08:39.760 --> 01:08:44.000
<v Speaker 1>But that is a distinct matter from the canon itself existing and</v>

01:08:44.000 --> 01:08:50.480
<v Speaker 1>being an errant.</v>

01:08:50.720 --> 01:08:56.640
<v Speaker 1>I think I will save this question about the restorationist for next</v>

01:08:56.640 --> 01:09:01.760
<v Speaker 1>time because it has some subparts to it and I don't know</v>

01:09:01.760 --> 01:09:05.280
<v Speaker 1>that I want to get into it right now.</v>

01:09:05.360 --> 01:09:10.240
<v Speaker 1>I will quickly scroll through the chat here.</v>

01:09:10.240 --> 01:09:12.880
<v Speaker 1>I don't know that I will get to all of it, but</v>

01:09:12.880 --> 01:09:14.160
<v Speaker 1>let's see.</v>

01:09:21.600 --> 01:09:25.440
<v Speaker 1>I have someone saying that as a German from Russia, they preserved</v>

01:09:25.440 --> 01:09:26.960
<v Speaker 1>the medieval German accent.</v>

01:09:26.960 --> 01:09:29.520
<v Speaker 1>That's probably true with regard to certain regional accents.</v>

01:09:29.520 --> 01:09:33.360
<v Speaker 1>Germany, not to the same degree as Britain, but Germany certainly has</v>

01:09:33.440 --> 01:09:36.240
<v Speaker 1>regional accents.</v>

01:09:36.240 --> 01:09:39.600
<v Speaker 1>I know because I've tried to talk to a Bavarian before, and</v>

01:09:41.040 --> 01:09:45.040
<v Speaker 1>no. I know standard German, I do not know Bioish</v>

01:09:48.160 --> 01:09:52.960
<v Speaker 1>A quirk of accents though we actually have some of the accents</v>

01:09:52.960 --> 01:09:57.440
<v Speaker 1>in the US are closer to what would have existed centuries ago</v>

01:09:57.440 --> 01:10:00.720
<v Speaker 1>in Britain because we preserved them and the British did not.</v>

01:10:00.720 --> 01:10:07.760
<v Speaker 1>Which is kind of ironic.</v>

01:10:07.760 --> 01:10:08.960
<v Speaker 1>Let's see.</v>

01:10:30.000 --> 01:10:34.640
<v Speaker 1>I think that may be just about it for this week.</v>

01:10:34.640 --> 01:10:38.000
<v Speaker 1>I do see some other questions here in the chat that I</v>

01:10:38.000 --> 01:10:40.880
<v Speaker 1>am going to write down for next time.</v>

01:10:40.880 --> 01:10:43.680
<v Speaker 1>I don't know that I want to get into them necessarily this</v>

01:10:43.680 --> 01:10:50.960
<v Speaker 1>time. Someone asked about which</v>

01:10:50.960 --> 01:10:52.880
<v Speaker 1>internet theologians to avoid.</v>

01:10:52.880 --> 01:10:57.040
<v Speaker 1>Uh the answer to that is most of them because most internet</v>

01:10:57.280 --> 01:11:01.520
<v Speaker 1>theologians are just not going to be very good.</v>

01:11:01.520 --> 01:11:04.320
<v Speaker 1>But that's true for most theologians, period.</v>

01:11:04.320 --> 01:11:11.040
<v Speaker 1>Because most theologians are not lowercase O Orthodox, they are usually trying</v>

01:11:11.040 --> 01:11:13.600
<v Speaker 1>to push some sort of agenda.</v>

01:11:13.600 --> 01:11:16.400
<v Speaker 1>Part of that, of course, is they haven't yet passed through the</v>

01:11:16.800 --> 01:11:20.480
<v Speaker 1>filter of history, which I don't want to get into this too</v>

01:11:20.480 --> 01:11:23.600
<v Speaker 1>deeply right now, but it's important to recognize that many of the</v>

01:11:23.600 --> 01:11:27.840
<v Speaker 1>things that have been handed down to us from previous centuries, from</v>

01:11:28.080 --> 01:11:34.480
<v Speaker 1>previous millennia in some cases, they were things that were worth preserving.</v>

01:11:34.480 --> 01:11:37.040
<v Speaker 1>That's why we have them.</v>

01:11:37.040 --> 01:11:39.520
<v Speaker 1>Most things produced in any given era</v>

01:11:41.520 --> 01:11:44.080
<v Speaker 1>are Are not going to be worth preserving.</v>

01:11:44.080 --> 01:11:49.840
<v Speaker 1>And so we have Shakespeare, but there are probably hundreds of others</v>

01:11:49.840 --> 01:11:54.720
<v Speaker 1>whose works were not preserved because they weren't as good.</v>

01:11:55.040 --> 01:11:58.400
<v Speaker 1>To some degree that's true of the Greek playwrights, to some degree,</v>

01:11:58.400 --> 01:12:02.240
<v Speaker 1>we just lost things due to time and weather and the reality</v>

01:12:02.240 --> 01:12:05.360
<v Speaker 1>of living in a fallen world where things fall apart.</v>

01:12:05.440 --> 01:12:11.120
<v Speaker 1>But you do have to recognize that there is a filter that</v>

01:12:11.120 --> 01:12:16.960
<v Speaker 1>acts naturally historically because things that are worth transmitting are the things</v>

01:12:16.960 --> 01:12:19.200
<v Speaker 1>that tend to get transmitted.</v>

01:12:19.200 --> 01:12:22.320
<v Speaker 1>It's not always true, but by and large it is.</v>

01:12:22.320 --> 01:12:25.600
<v Speaker 1>And so the reason this is important is because when you're looking</v>

01:12:25.600 --> 01:12:29.360
<v Speaker 1>at things in your current era, they have not yet passed through</v>

01:12:29.360 --> 01:12:30.560
<v Speaker 1>that filter.</v>

01:12:30.560 --> 01:12:35.200
<v Speaker 1>And so don't necessarily look back at history and think, wow, they</v>

01:12:35.200 --> 01:12:38.720
<v Speaker 1>were so much better at all of these No, many times the</v>

01:12:38.720 --> 01:12:41.840
<v Speaker 1>stuff that was terrible just didn't get passed forward to us.</v>

01:12:41.840 --> 01:12:45.120
<v Speaker 1>And many of the terrible stuff today won't get passed forward to</v>

01:12:45.120 --> 01:12:49.360
<v Speaker 1>future generations because it won't be preserved because it's terrible.</v>

01:12:49.360 --> 01:12:52.800
<v Speaker 1>So just something to keep in mind when you're looking at what</v>

01:12:52.800 --> 01:12:57.360
<v Speaker 1>the past has transmitted to us in light of what we have</v>

01:12:57.360 --> 01:12:58.640
<v Speaker 1>today and vice versa, right?</v>

01:12:58.640 --> 01:13:02.960
<v Speaker 1>Don't necessarily think that the past didn't produce garbage as well because</v>

01:13:02.960 --> 01:13:05.760
<v Speaker 1>garbage doesn't get preserved.</v>

01:13:06.000 --> 01:13:08.560
<v Speaker 1>Think of it in a physical sense, right?</v>

01:13:08.560 --> 01:13:12.560
<v Speaker 1>Your actual literal garbage you're not going to keep around and then</v>

01:13:12.560 --> 01:13:15.760
<v Speaker 1>someone in a hundred years will have access to it.</v>

01:13:15.760 --> 01:13:19.520
<v Speaker 1>But if you have family heirlooms, you probably will pass those down.</v>

01:13:19.520 --> 01:13:25.280
<v Speaker 1>The same thing happens with culture.</v>

01:13:32.720 --> 01:13:35.280
<v Speaker 1>I think I can answer this one quickly to what extent is</v>

01:13:35.280 --> 01:13:39.200
<v Speaker 1>German and the Luther Bible still valuable for theology and Lutheranism, even</v>

01:13:39.200 --> 01:13:42.000
<v Speaker 1>though Luther didn't make use of the Septuagint.</v>

01:13:42.000 --> 01:13:44.480
<v Speaker 1>He actually did make use of the Septuagint.</v>

01:13:44.480 --> 01:13:45.440
<v Speaker 1>He spoke Greek.</v>

01:13:45.440 --> 01:13:46.960
<v Speaker 1>He had access to it.</v>

01:13:46.960 --> 01:13:49.280
<v Speaker 1>He just did not rely on it to the extent that he</v>

01:13:49.280 --> 01:13:51.680
<v Speaker 1>should have, which is to say exclusively.</v>

01:13:51.680 --> 01:13:54.720
<v Speaker 1>It is It is based in large part the Old Testament on</v>

01:13:54.720 --> 01:13:57.520
<v Speaker 1>the Masoretic text.</v>

01:13:57.520 --> 01:14:00.080
<v Speaker 1>So does it still have utility?</v>

01:14:00.080 --> 01:14:01.440
<v Speaker 1>Of course it does.</v>

01:14:01.440 --> 01:14:06.240
<v Speaker 1>Should we want to replace it with a Bible that is based</v>

01:14:06.240 --> 01:14:08.000
<v Speaker 1>on the Septuagint?</v>

01:14:08.000 --> 01:14:12.160
<v Speaker 1>Absolutely. And I also don't have that currently on my desk.</v>

01:14:12.160 --> 01:14:15.680
<v Speaker 1>There is already a version of the Septuagint translated into German.</v>

01:14:15.680 --> 01:14:16.880
<v Speaker 1>You can buy it today.</v>

01:14:17.200 --> 01:14:19.440
<v Speaker 1>We already have that in German.</v>

01:14:19.440 --> 01:14:22.320
<v Speaker 1>We have some options in English, none of them are great yet.</v>

01:14:22.320 --> 01:14:26.160
<v Speaker 1>Hopefully the one that is coming out, I believe it's supposed to</v>

01:14:26.160 --> 01:14:28.320
<v Speaker 1>be next year, will be a good option.</v>

01:14:28.320 --> 01:14:29.680
<v Speaker 1>But it already exists in German.</v>

01:14:29.840 --> 01:14:34.320
<v Speaker 1>The Septuaginthe Deutsch is I have a physical copy of it somewhere</v>

01:14:34.560 --> 01:14:36.240
<v Speaker 1>somewhere in this room.</v>

01:14:36.240 --> 01:14:39.600
<v Speaker 1>But you can buy it, unfortunately, this is another one of those</v>

01:14:39.600 --> 01:14:42.160
<v Speaker 1>cases where it is overpriced.</v>

01:14:42.160 --> 01:14:42.800
<v Speaker 1>It is</v>

01:14:44.160 --> 01:14:47.920
<v Speaker 1>hundred something dollars to get a copy of it delivered to the</v>

01:14:47.920 --> 01:14:51.760
<v Speaker 1>US, unfortunately, but it's available.</v>

01:14:51.760 --> 01:14:52.960
<v Speaker 1>It does exist.</v>

01:14:52.960 --> 01:14:54.960
<v Speaker 1>That's what I would say you should use if you want to</v>

01:14:54.960 --> 01:14:59.200
<v Speaker 1>study scripture in German, not necessarily the Luther Bible.</v>

01:14:59.200 --> 01:15:02.720
<v Speaker 1>The Luther Bible of course has historical utility in the sense that</v>

01:15:02.720 --> 01:15:05.520
<v Speaker 1>you can look at the development of the German language and it's</v>

01:15:05.520 --> 01:15:07.360
<v Speaker 1>one of the major sources of that.</v>

01:15:07.360 --> 01:15:11.360
<v Speaker 1>So it has that usage, but no, my position is the same</v>

01:15:11.360 --> 01:15:13.120
<v Speaker 1>in any given language.</v>

01:15:13.120 --> 01:15:17.120
<v Speaker 1>We should be relying on the Septuagint, not on the Masoretic text.</v>

01:15:17.120 --> 01:15:20.240
<v Speaker 1>We should not be using the Hebrew period.</v>

01:15:20.240 --> 01:15:23.760
<v Speaker 1>Same thing is true in German as is true in English, French,</v>

01:15:23.760 --> 01:15:25.840
<v Speaker 1>Japanese, every other language.</v>

01:15:25.840 --> 01:15:26.160
<v Speaker 1>So</v>

01:15:27.040 --> 01:15:30.880
<v Speaker 1>it has utility, but not what we should be using to study</v>

01:15:30.880 --> 01:15:36.960
<v Speaker 1>scripture, particularly when we already have the Septuagint translated in German</v>

01:15:41.680 --> 01:15:44.960
<v Speaker 1>Think I will answer one more question.</v>

01:15:44.960 --> 01:15:48.160
<v Speaker 1>If my backlog starts to get too long, I'll just run for,</v>

01:15:48.160 --> 01:15:50.960
<v Speaker 1>you know, ninety minutes at some point or two hours and get</v>

01:15:50.960 --> 01:15:52.320
<v Speaker 1>through some of the backlog.</v>

01:15:52.320 --> 01:15:55.840
<v Speaker 1>But for now I'll leave some questions for next week.</v>

01:15:55.840 --> 01:16:01.040
<v Speaker 1>Regarding concupiscence, is it a sin if some part of you desires</v>

01:16:01.040 --> 01:16:05.280
<v Speaker 1>sin, but you would still morally abstain if given the opportunity, if</v>

01:16:05.280 --> 01:16:09.280
<v Speaker 1>your steadfastness would overcome your desire?</v>

01:16:09.280 --> 01:16:12.640
<v Speaker 1>I kind of touched on and answered that one, but to be</v>

01:16:12.640 --> 01:16:17.680
<v Speaker 1>more explicit, yes, it is still sin, because the desire to sin</v>

01:16:18.000 --> 01:16:19.520
<v Speaker 1>is sin.</v>

01:16:19.520 --> 01:16:22.880
<v Speaker 1>But it's just like the example I gave with the legal example,</v>

01:16:22.880 --> 01:16:25.440
<v Speaker 1>right? Conspiracy.</v>

01:16:25.440 --> 01:16:26.800
<v Speaker 1>Creating the conspiracy</v>

01:16:28.000 --> 01:16:30.880
<v Speaker 1>may very well be a crime.</v>

01:16:30.880 --> 01:16:34.240
<v Speaker 1>Usually you have to have a an act in furtherance of the</v>

01:16:34.240 --> 01:16:37.760
<v Speaker 1>conspiracy, not just talking about it, but depends on the law of</v>

01:16:37.760 --> 01:16:38.640
<v Speaker 1>where you are.</v>

01:16:38.960 --> 01:16:43.600
<v Speaker 1>Creating the conspiracy, making it a concrete thing, is a crime, probably.</v>

01:16:43.600 --> 01:16:45.040
<v Speaker 1>I'm just going to say it is a crime.</v>

01:16:45.040 --> 01:16:47.360
<v Speaker 1>I'm always going to give the attorney answer because I don't want</v>

01:16:47.360 --> 01:16:49.600
<v Speaker 1>someone saying, Oh, you gave me bad legal advice, right?</v>

01:16:49.600 --> 01:16:50.720
<v Speaker 1>It's not legal advice.</v>

01:16:50.720 --> 01:16:52.800
<v Speaker 1>I'm not teaching you criminal law right now.</v>

01:16:52.800 --> 01:16:57.040
<v Speaker 1>But the conspiracy, for the sake of our hypothetical, is a crime.</v>

01:16:57.040 --> 01:17:02.560
<v Speaker 1>Doing something in order to pursue the conspiracy, probably also a crime.</v>

01:17:02.560 --> 01:17:07.280
<v Speaker 1>Committing the actual crime that was the point of the conspiracy is</v>

01:17:07.280 --> 01:17:08.480
<v Speaker 1>a crime.</v>

01:17:08.480 --> 01:17:12.800
<v Speaker 1>Committing it as part of a conspiracy is a crime.</v>

01:17:12.800 --> 01:17:15.200
<v Speaker 1>The same thing with regard to sin.</v>

01:17:15.200 --> 01:17:18.640
<v Speaker 1>The desire to sin because it is a z it is a</v>

01:17:18.640 --> 01:17:22.960
<v Speaker 1>desire to act contrary to God is sin.</v>

01:17:23.280 --> 01:17:28.800
<v Speaker 1>Doing something concrete in order to try to obtain the sinful end</v>

01:17:28.960 --> 01:17:30.400
<v Speaker 1>is a sin.</v>

01:17:30.400 --> 01:17:31.520
<v Speaker 1>Obtaining the sinful end</v>

01:17:32.640 --> 01:17:34.000
<v Speaker 1>is a sin.</v>

01:17:34.000 --> 01:17:36.720
<v Speaker 1>Not repenting is a sin.</v>

01:17:36.720 --> 01:17:40.320
<v Speaker 1>Persisting in that sin is a sin.</v>

01:17:40.320 --> 01:17:43.200
<v Speaker 1>And so I I don't want it to be to the point</v>

01:17:43.200 --> 01:17:45.600
<v Speaker 1>where you get neurotic about the law and oh I'm a terrible</v>

01:17:45.600 --> 01:17:48.000
<v Speaker 1>person and I'm sinful and I can never do anything.</v>

01:17:48.000 --> 01:17:49.120
<v Speaker 1>Don't do that.</v>

01:17:49.120 --> 01:17:50.880
<v Speaker 1>Don't despair.</v>

01:17:50.880 --> 01:17:53.680
<v Speaker 1>I'm not going to say it's a sin, but it is, but</v>

01:17:53.680 --> 01:17:58.400
<v Speaker 1>don't despair because of course, the sacrifice of Christ is of infinite</v>

01:17:58.400 --> 01:18:01.440
<v Speaker 1>value. God has already forgiven all of your sins.</v>

01:18:01.440 --> 01:18:03.760
<v Speaker 1>He knows that you are a sinner.</v>

01:18:03.760 --> 01:18:05.920
<v Speaker 1>He knows you're going to continue to sin.</v>

01:18:05.920 --> 01:18:09.760
<v Speaker 1>He knows the sins that you are going to commit five years</v>

01:18:09.760 --> 01:18:13.120
<v Speaker 1>from today, you have no idea what those well you probably know</v>

01:18:13.120 --> 01:18:15.600
<v Speaker 1>some of those sins, but many of those sins you have no</v>

01:18:15.600 --> 01:18:17.200
<v Speaker 1>idea what they are yet.</v>

01:18:17.200 --> 01:18:19.280
<v Speaker 1>You may not even recognize them at the time.</v>

01:18:19.280 --> 01:18:20.960
<v Speaker 1>God knows each and every one of them.</v>

01:18:20.960 --> 01:18:22.880
<v Speaker 1>Christ knew each and every one of them when he went to</v>

01:18:22.880 --> 01:18:26.480
<v Speaker 1>the cross, and you are forgiven for those already.</v>

01:18:26.480 --> 01:18:30.720
<v Speaker 1>Yes, of course, pray the Lord's prayer, ask God for forgiveness, repent,</v>

01:18:30.720 --> 01:18:35.360
<v Speaker 1>which properly means to turn away from that sin, but don't despair</v>

01:18:35.920 --> 01:18:39.600
<v Speaker 1>because of the fact that yes, you're going to sin a lot</v>

01:18:39.600 --> 01:18:43.840
<v Speaker 1>in this life, and you basically can't 100% avoid it.</v>

01:18:43.840 --> 01:18:48.080
<v Speaker 1>The Christian life is not a life of perfect avoidance of sin.</v>

01:18:48.080 --> 01:18:52.720
<v Speaker 1>The Christian life is a life of repentance for sin, because we</v>

01:18:52.720 --> 01:18:58.720
<v Speaker 1>live in a fallen world, and a fundamental aspect of this that</v>

01:18:59.360 --> 01:19:04.960
<v Speaker 1>most people get wrong because it doesn't seem intuitive at first, but</v>

01:19:04.960 --> 01:19:07.280
<v Speaker 1>you have to understand a little bit of Christian theology to know</v>

01:19:07.280 --> 01:19:09.360
<v Speaker 1>why this is the case.</v>

01:19:09.360 --> 01:19:14.320
<v Speaker 1>You are not a sinner because you sin.</v>

01:19:14.320 --> 01:19:20.000
<v Speaker 1>You sin because you are a sinner.</v>

01:19:20.000 --> 01:19:26.800
<v Speaker 1>If you understand original sin, that is the conclusion, the natural, inevitable,</v>

01:19:26.800 --> 01:19:30.640
<v Speaker 1>necessary conclusion of understanding original sin Original sin.</v>

01:19:30.640 --> 01:19:35.040
<v Speaker 1>And unless you arrive at that conclusion, that understanding of why you</v>

01:19:35.040 --> 01:19:39.760
<v Speaker 1>sin and the interaction there, the direction of the causation, you don't</v>

01:19:39.680 --> 01:19:42.960
<v Speaker 1>understand original sin until you get to that.</v>

01:19:42.960 --> 01:19:47.840
<v Speaker 1>And so again, you sin because you are a sinner.</v>

01:19:47.840 --> 01:19:52.240
<v Speaker 1>You are a sinner because our federal head Adam fell and took</v>

01:19:52.240 --> 01:19:54.000
<v Speaker 1>everyone and everything with him.</v>

01:19:55.120 --> 01:20:00.960
<v Speaker 1>You are restored in Christ, but you are not perfected in this</v>

01:20:00.960 --> 01:20:08.160
<v Speaker 1>life, because justification, that juridical, that legal declaration that</v>

01:20:08.160 --> 01:20:13.680
<v Speaker 1>you are wiped clean, your slate is wiped clean, you are innocent,</v>

01:20:13.680 --> 01:20:18.080
<v Speaker 1>you are forgiven for the sake of Christ, that is once and</v>

01:20:18.080 --> 01:20:21.600
<v Speaker 1>done It was finished on the cross, it's applied to you when</v>

01:20:21.600 --> 01:20:23.760
<v Speaker 1>you are given the free gift of faith.</v>

01:20:23.760 --> 01:20:30.960
<v Speaker 1>Sanctification is progressive in this life, and final sanctification, complete, perfect sanctification,</v>

01:20:30.960 --> 01:20:33.840
<v Speaker 1>not in the reformed sense, but in the sense that I think</v>

01:20:33.840 --> 01:20:39.360
<v Speaker 1>you all understand what I'm saying, that sanctification happens at the resurrection,</v>

01:20:39.360 --> 01:20:42.880
<v Speaker 1>at the second coming, if you're still alive when it happens, right?</v>

01:20:42.880 --> 01:20:46.240
<v Speaker 1>So you are not going to be perfect in this life, but</v>

01:20:46.880 --> 01:20:49.520
<v Speaker 1>that's not the point of the Christian life.</v>

01:20:49.520 --> 01:20:53.120
<v Speaker 1>So don't despair just because you know concupiscence is sin, so that</v>

01:20:53.120 --> 01:20:56.480
<v Speaker 1>desire to sin is sin and then pursuing it and committing it</v>

01:20:56.560 --> 01:20:57.840
<v Speaker 1>and hiding it and</v>

01:20:58.800 --> 01:21:04.400
<v Speaker 1>Your instinct, your immediate reaction, should always be to turn to God</v>

01:21:04.400 --> 01:21:06.480
<v Speaker 1>and ask for forgiveness.</v>

01:21:06.480 --> 01:21:08.400
<v Speaker 1>Don't hide from God.</v>

01:21:08.400 --> 01:21:10.000
<v Speaker 1>God hates that.</v>

01:21:10.000 --> 01:21:12.000
<v Speaker 1>Don't do that.</v>

01:21:12.000 --> 01:21:15.360
<v Speaker 1>You don't have to look at God and say I can't come</v>

01:21:15.360 --> 01:21:19.120
<v Speaker 1>before you because I'm this unholy wretch, I've done this horrible thing,</v>

01:21:19.120 --> 01:21:23.280
<v Speaker 1>I've fallen into this particular sin, yet again I've done the thing</v>

01:21:23.280 --> 01:21:24.240
<v Speaker 1>that I hate to do.</v>

01:21:24.240 --> 01:21:26.400
<v Speaker 1>Think of the words of Paul.</v>

01:21:26.400 --> 01:21:29.200
<v Speaker 1>I do the very thing I do not want to do, and</v>

01:21:29.200 --> 01:21:31.520
<v Speaker 1>I do not do the thing I want to do, because of</v>

01:21:31.520 --> 01:21:34.560
<v Speaker 1>the sin that is in me, right?</v>

01:21:34.560 --> 01:21:36.720
<v Speaker 1>Turn to God, that's what God wants.</v>

01:21:36.720 --> 01:21:40.080
<v Speaker 1>God wants you to turn to him and ask for forgiveness and</v>

01:21:40.080 --> 01:21:40.960
<v Speaker 1>try again.</v>

01:21:40.960 --> 01:21:44.000
<v Speaker 1>Pick yourself up, turn to God, try again.</v>

01:21:44.000 --> 01:21:47.200
<v Speaker 1>Don't despair, don't think that oh I've fallen for it again.</v>

01:21:47.200 --> 01:21:48.880
<v Speaker 1>No. That's what Satan wants.</v>

01:21:48.880 --> 01:21:51.840
<v Speaker 1>Satan wants you to wallow in it and keep thinking about how</v>

01:21:51.840 --> 01:21:54.480
<v Speaker 1>terrible and awful you are and focusing on that.</v>

01:21:54.480 --> 01:21:55.920
<v Speaker 1>Focus on the cross.</v>

01:21:55.920 --> 01:21:56.960
<v Speaker 1>I could point behind me.</v>

01:21:56.960 --> 01:21:58.080
<v Speaker 1>Look at the cross.</v>

01:21:58.080 --> 01:22:01.120
<v Speaker 1>That's the answer.</v>

01:22:01.120 --> 01:22:04.080
<v Speaker 1>All of your sins are forgiven.</v>

01:22:04.080 --> 01:22:06.320
<v Speaker 1>That's what you should do as a Christian.</v>

01:22:06.320 --> 01:22:09.280
<v Speaker 1>So, yes, concupiscence is sin.</v>

01:22:09.280 --> 01:22:11.840
<v Speaker 1>But that sin was also forgiven at the cross.</v>

01:22:14.160 --> 01:22:20.480
<v Speaker 1>And I think that I will probably call it there for this</v>

01:22:20.480 --> 01:22:27.120
<v Speaker 1>week. Once again, just as a sort of little bit of housekeeping</v>

01:22:27.120 --> 01:22:28.720
<v Speaker 1>here at the end, you can submit questions</v>

01:22:29.760 --> 01:22:32.480
<v Speaker 1>on the forum, omniforta.com.</v>

01:22:32.480 --> 01:22:36.320
<v Speaker 1>There's a request category specifically for this.</v>

01:22:36.320 --> 01:22:39.120
<v Speaker 1>If you happen to put it in another part of the forum,</v>

01:22:39.120 --> 01:22:39.680
<v Speaker 1>I'll move it.</v>

01:22:39.680 --> 01:22:40.960
<v Speaker 1>It's not a big deal.</v>

01:22:40.960 --> 01:22:45.040
<v Speaker 1>But that does help me to try to organize these questions and</v>

01:22:45.040 --> 01:22:47.440
<v Speaker 1>link things so people can find it in the future.</v>

01:22:47.440 --> 01:22:51.200
<v Speaker 1>If you ask questions in the chat or on X, wherever else</v>

01:22:51.200 --> 01:22:54.880
<v Speaker 1>you happen to ask them, Telegram, I do write those down, try</v>

01:22:54.880 --> 01:22:58.240
<v Speaker 1>to collate those as well and get them into the show at</v>

01:22:58.240 --> 01:22:59.920
<v Speaker 1>some point.</v>

01:22:59.920 --> 01:23:02.880
<v Speaker 1>If you have asked a question and it has been a while</v>

01:23:02.960 --> 01:23:05.360
<v Speaker 1>and I have not answered it, referenced it, said I'm going to</v>

01:23:05.360 --> 01:23:08.720
<v Speaker 1>answer it, something like that, by all means, I don't object to</v>

01:23:08.720 --> 01:23:09.760
<v Speaker 1>you reminding me.</v>

01:23:09.760 --> 01:23:11.680
<v Speaker 1>Perhaps it slipped through the cracks.</v>

01:23:11.680 --> 01:23:15.760
<v Speaker 1>Perhaps you asked it and it got hidden or suppressed or something.</v>

01:23:15.760 --> 01:23:17.040
<v Speaker 1>That happens on X all the time.</v>

01:23:17.040 --> 01:23:21.200
<v Speaker 1>I try to find things and their moderation team to be charitable</v>

01:23:21.600 --> 01:23:23.040
<v Speaker 1>has hidden it from me.</v>

01:23:23.040 --> 01:23:25.600
<v Speaker 1>So bear that in mind.</v>

01:23:25.600 --> 01:23:28.240
<v Speaker 1>But thank you for those of you who submitted the questions.</v>

01:23:28.240 --> 01:23:29.280
<v Speaker 1>Thank you for your time.</v>

01:23:29.280 --> 01:23:31.520
<v Speaker 1>I am glad I was able to answer the questions for you.</v>

01:23:31.520 --> 01:23:34.800
<v Speaker 1>Hopefully answer the questions in a useful way.</v>

01:23:34.800 --> 01:23:38.000
<v Speaker 1>If you have a follow-up question, by all means feel free to</v>

01:23:38.000 --> 01:23:39.440
<v Speaker 1>ask that as well.</v>

01:23:39.440 --> 01:23:42.640
<v Speaker 1>And I finally managed to get this on a Thursday instead of</v>

01:23:42.640 --> 01:23:46.000
<v Speaker 1>a Friday, so I won't say just yet to have a good</v>

01:23:46.000 --> 01:23:49.360
<v Speaker 1>weekend, but survive Friday and then have an excellent weekend and go</v>

01:23:49.360 --> 01:23:51.120
<v Speaker 1>to church on Sunday.</v>

01:23:51.120 --> 01:23:54.320
<v Speaker 1>I will see all of you next week, and may God bless</v>

01:23:54.320 --> 01:23:59.680
<v Speaker 1>you in the interim.</v>