WEBVTT 00:00:37.040 --> 00:00:39.520 Welcome to the Stone Choir Podcast. 00:00:39.520 --> 00:00:40.720 I am Corey J. 00:00:40.720 --> 00:00:42.160 Mahler. And I'm 00:00:42.160 --> 00:00:43.840 still Wo. 00:00:44.160 --> 00:00:47.920 On today's Stone Choir, we're going to be discussing a number of 00:00:47.920 --> 00:00:54.960 related concepts, beginning with treason, betrayal, traitors, and the flip 00:00:54.960 --> 00:00:58.800 side of that, which is duty and honor, the reason that we're 00:00:58.800 --> 00:01:02.960 tackling this is that I realized a couple weeks ago I saw 00:01:02.960 --> 00:01:06.640 a post go by on my timeline where someone posted something about 00:01:06.640 --> 00:01:10.080 treason and as I saw go by it it was directly related 00:01:10.080 --> 00:01:14.080 to actual national treason, you know, the proper term. 00:01:14.080 --> 00:01:16.960 And I realized when it went by and I posted this in 00:01:16.960 --> 00:01:22.160 response that I think most Christians don't believe that something such as 00:01:22.160 --> 00:01:24.960 betrayal actually really exists. 00:01:24.960 --> 00:01:28.560 I think that there's been such a collapsed view of morality among 00:01:28.560 --> 00:01:29.200 modern Christians 00:01:30.400 --> 00:01:34.880 that the idea that you could betray something it doesn't really register. 00:01:34.880 --> 00:01:37.840 It's not just a Christian problem, but we of all people should 00:01:37.840 --> 00:01:42.080 know better because Judas is the betrayer of Christ. 00:01:42.800 --> 00:01:44.640 That's effectively his title. 00:01:44.640 --> 00:01:47.120 We don't only call it a title, but he is the betrayer 00:01:47.200 --> 00:01:50.800 of Christ, Judas the Betrayer, or Judas the Traitor. 00:01:50.800 --> 00:01:54.800 And he's a traitor because Jesus is high king, and he was 00:01:54.800 --> 00:01:56.480 a betrayer because he was his friend. 00:01:56.480 --> 00:01:58.640 He was his teacher. 00:01:58.640 --> 00:02:02.080 And so as Christians, we should have every sense that it's absolutely 00:02:02.080 --> 00:02:03.760 possible for there to be real betrayal. 00:02:03.760 --> 00:02:07.200 And the problem is when you don't think that betrayal is possible, 00:02:07.760 --> 00:02:12.240 it opens up the door to all manner of evil behavior that 00:02:12.240 --> 00:02:17.680 today we see people who call themselves Christians not only approving, but 00:02:17.680 --> 00:02:21.600 actively participating in and in many cases profiting from. 00:02:21.600 --> 00:02:25.040 And so we're gonna talk today some about things are going on 00:02:25.040 --> 00:02:27.440 in Springfield, Ohio and elsewhere. 00:02:27.440 --> 00:02:28.800 It's not to be timely. 00:02:28.800 --> 00:02:31.200 We had planned on doing this episode a week ago and I 00:02:31.200 --> 00:02:32.960 apologize that we missed last week. 00:02:32.960 --> 00:02:36.480 We sat down on the day we normally record, ready to record, 00:02:36.480 --> 00:02:38.320 and suddenly everything just fell apart. 00:02:38.320 --> 00:02:40.800 We fought for an hour and just couldn't get it working. 00:02:40.800 --> 00:02:43.840 The next day we sat down to record and right as we 00:02:43.840 --> 00:02:46.800 were about to, something came up and it delayed for a few 00:02:46.800 --> 00:02:49.280 hours and just all right, let's do it the next day. 00:02:49.280 --> 00:02:53.120 And then the following day we tried once again and it wasn't 00:02:53.120 --> 00:02:55.760 gonna work and we realized we're only gonna have four days before 00:02:55.760 --> 00:02:59.120 the next episode was due and as we've said before, we'd rather 00:02:59.200 --> 00:03:01.520 focus on quality than quantity. 00:03:01.520 --> 00:03:05.520 So I apologize that we we didn't two weeks back to back 00:03:05.600 --> 00:03:09.520 that we we missed something, but we had already planned on discussing 00:03:09.520 --> 00:03:13.520 this before the spring field thing happened and before the Will Spencer 00:03:13.520 --> 00:03:14.560 situation evolved. 00:03:14.560 --> 00:03:17.360 So it worked out in our favor that we can point to 00:03:17.360 --> 00:03:20.080 those examples, but this isn't it all ripped from the headlines. 00:03:20.080 --> 00:03:22.480 It's a general theory episode. 00:03:22.480 --> 00:03:24.880 But we think it's a vital one because in a lot of 00:03:24.880 --> 00:03:28.080 ways it ties together many of the previous episodes we've had and 00:03:28.080 --> 00:03:30.240 we'll point some of those out as we go. 00:03:30.240 --> 00:03:30.560 But 00:03:31.680 --> 00:03:35.120 when I began preparing for this episode, yeah, I did what I 00:03:35.120 --> 00:03:38.320 often do when we're talking about words or concept and looked up 00:03:38.320 --> 00:03:39.280 the etymology. 00:03:39.600 --> 00:03:41.600 And there's no big breakthrough here. 00:03:41.600 --> 00:03:43.600 I'm not gonna tell you anything cool trivia. 00:03:43.600 --> 00:03:47.280 The words treason, traitor, betrayal, they mean exactly what you think they 00:03:47.280 --> 00:03:49.360 mean. So there's nothing novel there to say. 00:03:49.360 --> 00:03:52.240 And that's good because that's the way you would hope things should 00:03:52.240 --> 00:03:57.280 be. You know, when we're communicating clearly and we're using assured language, 00:03:57.280 --> 00:03:59.920 you should be able to assume that when I say this is 00:03:59.920 --> 00:04:03.440 treasonous or this is betrayal, you know exactly what I mean. 00:04:03.440 --> 00:04:06.000 And so we'll talk about some of the nuances and shades there, 00:04:06.000 --> 00:04:07.600 but it's what you already think. 00:04:07.600 --> 00:04:08.640 So good. 00:04:08.640 --> 00:04:11.280 That means that when these words are used, they can be used 00:04:11.280 --> 00:04:14.960 clearly. And part of the reason for talking about some of the 00:04:14.960 --> 00:04:20.560 distinctions is that while these concepts are very important, it's equally important 00:04:20.560 --> 00:04:22.480 that we not overuse them. 00:04:22.480 --> 00:04:25.360 So to give you an absurd example, first I'll begin with a 00:04:25.360 --> 00:04:26.640 basic definition. 00:04:26.640 --> 00:04:30.880 Treason is something that can only really occur functionally in the political 00:04:30.880 --> 00:04:35.520 context. You can be a traitor to your country because there's a 00:04:35.520 --> 00:04:36.720 duty that's inherent. 00:04:36.720 --> 00:04:39.360 There's headship and duty attendant to that. 00:04:39.360 --> 00:04:41.120 So there's someone above you. 00:04:41.120 --> 00:04:44.720 You betray them in a fashion that's called treason. 00:04:45.360 --> 00:04:48.880 It's important not to abuse that term, like to give an example 00:04:48.880 --> 00:04:50.480 at the extreme opposite end. 00:04:50.480 --> 00:04:51.840 You're listening to Stone Choir. 00:04:51.840 --> 00:04:53.600 Many of you probably listen every week. 00:04:53.600 --> 00:04:54.640 You ever get tired of us? 00:04:54.640 --> 00:04:55.760 You're like, I don't care anymore. 00:04:56.080 --> 00:04:57.200 I don't like them anymore. 00:04:57.200 --> 00:04:58.400 You stop listening. 00:04:58.400 --> 00:05:00.320 You're not a traitor, just don't inquire. 00:05:00.320 --> 00:05:03.360 It would never in a million years occur to either Corey or 00:05:03.360 --> 00:05:06.880 myself that you have betrayed us by not listening or whatever. 00:05:06.880 --> 00:05:08.320 Like that's just that's insane. 00:05:08.320 --> 00:05:09.600 Because there's no duty. 00:05:09.600 --> 00:05:13.840 And so I point out that silly example because it's important not 00:05:13.840 --> 00:05:16.960 to call something treasonous or betrayal when it's not. 00:05:16.960 --> 00:05:20.400 If there's no duty, those things just don't apply. 00:05:20.400 --> 00:05:21.600 Maybe other things apply. 00:05:21.600 --> 00:05:23.520 You know, in the case of a podcast, you just get tired 00:05:23.520 --> 00:05:24.000 of it, fine. 00:05:24.000 --> 00:05:26.000 I've gotten tired of lots of podcasts. 00:05:26.000 --> 00:05:26.880 That's not betrayal. 00:05:26.880 --> 00:05:28.800 It's life goes on. 00:05:28.800 --> 00:05:32.080 So by bringing up the subject, we don't want everyone to start 00:05:32.080 --> 00:05:33.680 running around saying this is betrayal. 00:05:33.680 --> 00:05:34.800 This is betrayal. 00:05:34.800 --> 00:05:35.840 Not the point. 00:05:35.840 --> 00:05:38.720 But the point is that we have to recognize there are cases 00:05:38.720 --> 00:05:41.360 where it does occur and nobody sees it. 00:05:41.360 --> 00:05:46.240 Because the concept is basically gone from our society. 00:05:46.240 --> 00:05:49.120 And on the flip side, you know, we've talked a lot about 00:05:49.120 --> 00:05:53.840 duty. It's very frequently a subject that comes up peripherally, but crucially. 00:05:53.840 --> 00:05:57.920 Yeah, peripherally is not the main subject of the episode, but crucially, 00:05:57.920 --> 00:06:01.120 because duty to God, duty to neighbor, duty to 00:06:02.080 --> 00:06:07.520 family, whatever duties we have are supposed to dictate our behavior. 00:06:07.520 --> 00:06:10.720 They're supposed to be the rule by which we live our lives, 00:06:10.720 --> 00:06:12.320 whether we're Christians or not. 00:06:12.320 --> 00:06:17.680 And Christians above all other men have the source of the understanding 00:06:17.680 --> 00:06:20.480 for those duties that's missing in the pagan world. 00:06:20.480 --> 00:06:22.720 And it's not the pagans live without duty. 00:06:22.720 --> 00:06:27.680 They often live in many cases more dutiful lives than Christians because 00:06:27.680 --> 00:06:33.600 what modern Christianity has become is basically license for despising duty. 00:06:33.600 --> 00:06:37.040 Oh, I have the gospel, I believe in Jesus, so it doesn't 00:06:36.960 --> 00:06:39.760 matter how much I let my neighbor suffer. 00:06:39.760 --> 00:06:43.680 It doesn't matter that I don't hire the man who's my next 00:06:43.680 --> 00:06:47.360 door neighbor and my brother because there's somebody who's cheaper who's from 00:06:47.360 --> 00:06:48.880 overseas who's just moved in. 00:06:48.880 --> 00:06:50.880 That guy who's gonna save me five percent. 00:06:50.880 --> 00:06:53.200 Well, my duty is to capitalism. 00:06:53.200 --> 00:06:54.400 My duty is to profit. 00:06:54.480 --> 00:06:55.760 My duty is not to blood. 00:06:55.760 --> 00:06:56.800 It's not to neighbor. 00:06:56.800 --> 00:06:58.800 It's not to the people in my church. 00:06:58.800 --> 00:07:02.080 So the reason that it's crucial is that their Christians are acting 00:07:02.080 --> 00:07:05.600 in despicable, evil ways, and they think that they're just fine because 00:07:05.760 --> 00:07:08.400 they go to church on Sunday and they sing hymns and they, 00:07:08.400 --> 00:07:09.680 you know, say the creeds. 00:07:09.680 --> 00:07:14.800 They do the right stuff, except for living a Christian life. 00:07:14.800 --> 00:07:19.600 And so this is one of the recurring themes on Stone Choir, 00:07:19.600 --> 00:07:23.760 to believe in God, to believe in Christ's sacrifice on the cross 00:07:23.840 --> 00:07:26.800 that pays for all the sins that we commit, yours and mine 00:07:26.800 --> 00:07:29.280 every day, all the things that we know, all the things that 00:07:29.280 --> 00:07:31.440 we don't know, all the things that we're going to do later. 00:07:31.440 --> 00:07:33.920 God already paid for those on the cross. 00:07:33.920 --> 00:07:37.120 All we have to do is believe that and receive that forgiveness 00:07:37.120 --> 00:07:38.080 by faith. 00:07:38.080 --> 00:07:40.640 But when we say that's all we have to do, we're only 00:07:40.640 --> 00:07:42.000 talking about salvation. 00:07:42.000 --> 00:07:44.160 I don't have to do anything else to be saved. 00:07:44.160 --> 00:07:47.360 When I believe that Jesus died for my sins, I receive the 00:07:47.360 --> 00:07:50.000 gift of salvation that was prepared for me. 00:07:50.000 --> 00:07:52.800 But I still have other things to do because I am saved, 00:07:52.800 --> 00:07:55.120 because I do belong to God and I have a duty to 00:07:55.120 --> 00:08:03.200 Him. And so the reason that Judas's betrayal of Jesus was treasonous 00:08:03.280 --> 00:08:07.200 as well as treachery is that he had a duty to him, 00:08:07.200 --> 00:08:09.040 both as God, and he knew he was God. 00:08:09.040 --> 00:08:12.720 He was there witnessing all his miracles, witnessing his preaching, and yet 00:08:12.800 --> 00:08:14.160 he was a dirtbag. 00:08:14.160 --> 00:08:16.240 He was awful all the time. 00:08:16.240 --> 00:08:19.920 And this is something that is only captured in John 12. 00:08:19.920 --> 00:08:23.040 I'm gonna read this passage because it's not there's a detail here, 00:08:23.040 --> 00:08:27.440 if I remember correctly, isn't reflected in the other gospels, and when 00:08:27.440 --> 00:08:30.720 these readings come up, this is one that's not usually used. 00:08:30.720 --> 00:08:33.040 Listen to this carefully. 00:08:33.040 --> 00:08:37.440 Six days before the Passover Jesus therefore came to Bethany, where Lazarus 00:08:37.440 --> 00:08:39.440 was, whom Jesus had raised from the dead. 00:08:39.440 --> 00:08:41.040 So they gave a dinner to him there. 00:08:41.040 --> 00:08:44.160 Martha served, and Lazarus was one of those reclining with him at 00:08:44.160 --> 00:08:44.960 the table. 00:08:44.960 --> 00:08:48.880 Mary therefore took a pound of expensive ointment made from pure nard, 00:08:48.880 --> 00:08:51.600 and anointed the feet of Jesus, and wiped his feet with her 00:08:51.600 --> 00:08:54.800 hair. The house was filled with the fragrance of the perfume, but 00:08:54.800 --> 00:08:58.400 Judas Iscariot, one of the disciples, he who was about to betray 00:08:58.400 --> 00:09:02.560 him, said Why was this ointment not sold for three hundred denarii 00:09:02.800 --> 00:09:06.320 and given to the poor He said this not because he cared 00:09:06.320 --> 00:09:09.440 about the poor, but because he was a thief, having charge of 00:09:09.440 --> 00:09:12.160 the money bag he used to help himself to what was put 00:09:12.160 --> 00:09:13.040 in it. 00:09:13.200 --> 00:09:16.880 So this is a crucial detail because if you read the synoptic 00:09:16.880 --> 00:09:19.920 gospels, They all tell the same story, but they leave out the 00:09:19.920 --> 00:09:22.720 part of the Judah said it and he was a thief. 00:09:22.720 --> 00:09:26.160 And that the fact that he was a thief was his motivation. 00:09:26.160 --> 00:09:30.560 Now, this is right before he betrayed Christ, but this betrayer was 00:09:30.720 --> 00:09:32.160 also a petty thief. 00:09:32.160 --> 00:09:35.760 He was a scumbag who was stealing from the disciples. 00:09:35.760 --> 00:09:37.360 He was stealing from Jesus. 00:09:37.360 --> 00:09:39.760 Money was being given to them so that they could help the 00:09:39.760 --> 00:09:43.680 poor, so they could do whatever their mission required, he was pocketing 00:09:43.680 --> 00:09:45.920 it and using it for his own purposes. 00:09:45.920 --> 00:09:49.920 And this is why he stirred up all the other apostles to 00:09:49.920 --> 00:09:54.160 object to that gift that was given on Jesus' feet. 00:09:54.160 --> 00:09:56.800 And so when you read the other synoptics, it just says that 00:09:56.800 --> 00:09:59.040 the apostles were upset, and they were. 00:09:59.040 --> 00:10:01.920 They were upset that this would been given to waste, and Jesus 00:10:01.920 --> 00:10:05.120 explained why what she had done was beautiful and would be remembered 00:10:05.120 --> 00:10:08.480 from all time whenever the story was told. 00:10:08.480 --> 00:10:14.000 The crucial detail that's only connected in John is that Judas' motivation 00:10:14.000 --> 00:10:16.880 for being the first one to say that, to say, look at 00:10:16.880 --> 00:10:20.720 what waste this is, was not concern for the poor. 00:10:20.720 --> 00:10:21.920 It was greed. 00:10:21.920 --> 00:10:25.680 He saw money being poured out on Jesus' feet that he could 00:10:25.680 --> 00:10:26.880 have embezzled. 00:10:26.880 --> 00:10:28.560 And that was his motivation. 00:10:28.560 --> 00:10:33.280 And so we have a satanic false betraying deceiver among the twelve, 00:10:33.760 --> 00:10:38.400 before he was possessed and actually betrayed him in the garden. 00:10:38.400 --> 00:10:42.560 And the purpose of his deception was to steal, and everyone went 00:10:42.560 --> 00:10:43.360 along with it. 00:10:43.360 --> 00:10:44.960 Why? 'Cause it was plausible. 00:10:44.960 --> 00:10:46.320 It was a plausible argument. 00:10:46.320 --> 00:10:48.240 He said, Hey, this is wasteful. 00:10:48.240 --> 00:10:49.200 This is something valuable. 00:10:49.200 --> 00:10:50.880 Look at all the good we could have done with it if 00:10:50.880 --> 00:10:54.720 we'd used these riches for some other purpose. 00:10:54.720 --> 00:10:57.280 And that sounded really Christian to everyone else. 00:10:57.280 --> 00:10:59.520 Now, doesn't this sound like many of the problems that we have 00:10:59.520 --> 00:11:01.200 in our churches today? 00:11:01.200 --> 00:11:05.520 Someone with evil motives, maybe just one voice with evil motives, will 00:11:05.520 --> 00:11:08.000 say, Hey, look in this direction, we got to do this thing. 00:11:08.000 --> 00:11:10.960 And they're gonna slather it in Jesus butter, they're gonna make it 00:11:10.960 --> 00:11:12.000 seem very appealing to everybody. 00:11:12.080 --> 00:11:13.440 It's like, oh yeah, we gotta do that. 00:11:13.440 --> 00:11:15.200 Obviously, it's it's a gospel issue. 00:11:15.200 --> 00:11:17.360 We have to we can't have anything nice, we have to give 00:11:17.360 --> 00:11:19.360 it all away. 00:11:19.360 --> 00:11:23.840 We don't always have Jesus there to say what's actually going on. 00:11:23.920 --> 00:11:26.960 And Jesus knew that Judas was a thief, and he just let 00:11:26.960 --> 00:11:27.360 it slide. 00:11:27.360 --> 00:11:28.800 He didn't say anything at the time. 00:11:28.800 --> 00:11:31.600 John records it later on because he knew. 00:11:31.600 --> 00:11:37.280 This is important because in the church, everywhere, really in every institution, 00:11:37.280 --> 00:11:40.400 we see this in the churches, we see this in our government. 00:11:40.400 --> 00:11:44.880 Wherever you have trust, where men have put their trust in institutions, 00:11:44.960 --> 00:11:48.720 say this is here for a purpose, it's gonna preserve whatever. 00:11:48.720 --> 00:11:53.600 It's gonna preserve education, it's gonna preserve the neighborhood, the church. 00:11:53.600 --> 00:11:58.320 It has a specific duty to us as an institution. 00:11:58.320 --> 00:12:01.760 And then you get a couple guys in there who have hearts 00:12:01.760 --> 00:12:06.240 of Judas, who have hearts of embezzling and betrayal and murder, and 00:12:06.240 --> 00:12:07.680 they say all the right things. 00:12:07.680 --> 00:12:10.000 They say the right things for the wrong reason. 00:12:10.000 --> 00:12:13.280 Now what Judas said was wrong, but it was at least a 00:12:13.280 --> 00:12:14.560 plausible argument. 00:12:14.560 --> 00:12:16.720 And so I highlight this because everybody went along with it. 00:12:16.720 --> 00:12:19.680 The other disciples say, obviously, don't pour that stuff out. 00:12:19.680 --> 00:12:21.280 That's valuable. 00:12:21.280 --> 00:12:24.720 The motive of the man who initially put that idea in all 00:12:24.720 --> 00:12:27.600 of their heads was not for the poor. 00:12:27.600 --> 00:12:29.440 It was for his embezzling. 00:12:31.040 --> 00:12:34.800 When we are processing the situations that we now face today as 00:12:34.800 --> 00:12:40.480 individual men in all these scenarios, every possible realm of duty and 00:12:40.480 --> 00:12:43.920 just daily life that you have, big and small, they're going are 00:12:44.000 --> 00:12:47.040 gonna be voices who are gonna be saying the right things for 00:12:47.040 --> 00:12:48.640 the wrong reasons. 00:12:48.640 --> 00:12:51.680 And unfortunately most men aren't equipped to see through that. 00:12:51.680 --> 00:12:55.600 They can't clearly see, okay, well this guy's doing something that seems 00:12:55.600 --> 00:12:58.960 right, but I actually know there's something else going on, therefore we 00:12:58.960 --> 00:13:01.680 have to do something other than what he says. 00:13:01.680 --> 00:13:06.720 The absence of honor is what makes these things possible. 00:13:06.720 --> 00:13:09.920 Because the flip side of all of this whole conversation is that 00:13:09.920 --> 00:13:13.760 the idea of honor has basically died in the West. 00:13:13.760 --> 00:13:17.280 It's still, you know, if you're a Southerner, you're yowling right now 00:13:17.360 --> 00:13:21.200 because in the South there's a semblance of honor that's preserved. 00:13:21.200 --> 00:13:24.480 I'm half Tar Heel, but I was raised a Yankee, I'm a 00:13:24.480 --> 00:13:30.480 Yankee. There's an aspect of honor that is preserved in Southern culture, 00:13:30.480 --> 00:13:33.040 but it's not remotely the same as what it was in past 00:13:33.040 --> 00:13:37.840 centuries, because there are bits and pieces that are preserved very salutarily. 00:13:37.840 --> 00:13:39.440 We need that back everywhere. 00:13:39.440 --> 00:13:43.040 But there's a lot more that's also missing in the southern notion 00:13:43.040 --> 00:13:44.160 of honor culture. 00:13:44.160 --> 00:13:47.120 So what I'm talking about goes back further. 00:13:47.120 --> 00:13:50.560 But the point that I'm making here is that what we've done 00:13:50.560 --> 00:13:54.160 is we've sequestered the notion of honor to basically things like honor 00:13:54.160 --> 00:13:59.920 codes. You have some prep school or an elite institution, virtually everyone 00:13:59.920 --> 00:14:03.280 historically is going to have been white and they'll have something that's 00:14:03.280 --> 00:14:04.560 called an honor code. 00:14:04.560 --> 00:14:06.960 And it's usually taken very seriously. 00:14:06.960 --> 00:14:10.960 And those honor codes are something that shows up in mass media 00:14:10.960 --> 00:14:13.120 that we point to and say, Yeah, well that there's honor there 00:14:13.120 --> 00:14:14.000 in that place. 00:14:14.240 --> 00:14:17.280 Also in the military, historically, honor is a huge deal. 00:14:17.280 --> 00:14:20.000 You know, the things that men do for honor they wouldn't do 00:14:20.000 --> 00:14:20.800 for other reasons. 00:14:20.960 --> 00:14:23.520 Some of the things that the military, you know, the men on 00:14:23.520 --> 00:14:26.480 the ground have to do, they're not doing it for profit or 00:14:26.480 --> 00:14:29.600 for glory, but they'll do it for the honor that is a 00:14:29.600 --> 00:14:30.560 private thing. 00:14:30.560 --> 00:14:33.920 It's a thing that's accorded to them by their fellows, and it's 00:14:33.920 --> 00:14:38.720 something that is intrinsic to the conduct itself. 00:14:38.720 --> 00:14:41.920 The world that we have today has no notion of honor, which 00:14:41.920 --> 00:14:44.880 means that as long as nobody's looking, whatever you can get away 00:14:44.880 --> 00:14:46.080 with is fine. 00:14:46.080 --> 00:14:50.720 And in the South, in the church, in the elite institutions, pretty 00:14:50.720 --> 00:14:54.480 much everywhere now, what you can get away with is really the 00:14:54.480 --> 00:14:58.080 barrier of entry for what is morally licit. 00:14:58.080 --> 00:15:02.160 The idea that when no one's looking, I wouldn't behave badly, well, 00:15:02.160 --> 00:15:03.520 that's honor. 00:15:03.520 --> 00:15:03.840 And 00:15:04.960 --> 00:15:06.400 that's a limited thing. 00:15:06.400 --> 00:15:07.920 Not everyone has honor. 00:15:07.920 --> 00:15:09.360 Not every culture has honor. 00:15:09.360 --> 00:15:10.800 Not every race has honor. 00:15:10.800 --> 00:15:14.000 And that's where this stuff gets really difficult because things that are 00:15:14.000 --> 00:15:18.160 intrinsic, like the notion of honor, can't be taught. 00:15:18.160 --> 00:15:21.440 You can't teach someone who has no notion of reputation or honor 00:15:21.440 --> 00:15:24.240 to do it or to value it or to hold it or 00:15:24.240 --> 00:15:25.280 to preserve it. 00:15:25.280 --> 00:15:27.680 All they understand is that no one's looking, so I can do 00:15:27.680 --> 00:15:29.040 whatever I want. 00:15:29.040 --> 00:15:34.080 And so today's episode is just discussing these concepts as a whole 00:15:34.240 --> 00:15:37.520 is the idea that we live in a world where no one 00:15:37.520 --> 00:15:41.520 thinks betrayal is possible and no one thinks that honor is achievable. 00:15:41.520 --> 00:15:45.440 And those two things by themselves, apart from morality, apart from the 00:15:45.440 --> 00:15:48.800 law, apart from anything else, if you live in a world in 00:15:48.800 --> 00:15:51.600 a society where no one can betray, like that's just not a 00:15:51.600 --> 00:15:54.160 thing. There's no betrayal because there's no duty. 00:15:54.160 --> 00:15:56.560 And no one can really live with honor because as long as 00:15:56.560 --> 00:15:58.240 no one's looking, it didn't really happen. 00:15:58.400 --> 00:16:00.720 You know, what happens in Vegas stays in Vegas. 00:16:00.720 --> 00:16:02.640 That's a billion dollar slogan. 00:16:02.640 --> 00:16:04.000 And it's despicable. 00:16:04.000 --> 00:16:05.280 That's absolutely despicable. 00:16:05.280 --> 00:16:06.560 It's dishonorable. 00:16:06.560 --> 00:16:09.680 That's a word that used to mean something. 00:16:09.680 --> 00:16:13.840 Today we've created a society, we live in a society, and we 00:16:13.840 --> 00:16:18.320 perpetuate a society, including in our churches and all these institutions, where 00:16:18.640 --> 00:16:20.400 these are just taken for granted. 00:16:20.400 --> 00:16:23.280 There's no betrayal, there's no there's no backstabbing. 00:16:23.520 --> 00:16:26.320 And the idea of being honorable is not a thing. 00:16:26.320 --> 00:16:29.600 With those removed from the board, with these concepts that we're talking 00:16:29.600 --> 00:16:35.760 about today, removed from the possible sources of action and motivation, everything 00:16:35.760 --> 00:16:38.640 else that we see today is gonna happen. 00:16:38.800 --> 00:16:39.920 It's inevitable. 00:16:39.920 --> 00:16:42.640 The things we see in Springfield, Ohio, the things that we see 00:16:42.640 --> 00:16:47.040 in our churches, the betrayal, the backstabbing, the treason at the highest 00:16:47.040 --> 00:16:51.600 levels down to the lowest levels, it's all inevitable because well you 00:16:51.600 --> 00:16:52.560 can't be really betrayed. 00:16:52.480 --> 00:16:53.680 you don't have any duty. 00:16:53.680 --> 00:16:57.920 And the idea of even acting or thinking honorably is alien to 00:16:57.920 --> 00:17:00.960 men. So we want to just put back in people's minds that 00:17:00.960 --> 00:17:05.600 these things are real, that they're consequential, particularly in their absence. 00:17:05.600 --> 00:17:06.800 Because that's what we're facing. 00:17:06.800 --> 00:17:08.960 We're facing the absence of these concepts. 00:17:08.960 --> 00:17:12.320 So we hope that by reintroducing them at least to a little 00:17:12.320 --> 00:17:16.240 bit more of the discussion, more men will take seriously. 00:17:16.240 --> 00:17:20.080 Hey, nobody's looking, but I should still do the right thing because 00:17:20.080 --> 00:17:21.280 it's the right thing to do. 00:17:21.440 --> 00:17:24.880 Seems like a basic dumb thing to say, but it's apparently a 00:17:24.880 --> 00:17:25.920 big ask. 00:17:25.920 --> 00:17:29.040 So that's basically the ask for today's episode. 00:17:29.760 --> 00:17:30.000 When 00:17:30.000 --> 00:17:33.200 you hear the word honor, some of you may have thought of 00:17:33.200 --> 00:17:37.360 the concept of a shame versus a guilt society. 00:17:37.360 --> 00:17:41.760 Because of course, sometimes the shame societies are called shame-honor, which is 00:17:41.760 --> 00:17:43.200 really kind of inverted. 00:17:43.520 --> 00:17:48.640 because honor plays more of a role with regard to guilt societies 00:17:48.720 --> 00:17:52.560 and I'll add a map to the show notes so you can 00:17:52.560 --> 00:17:54.880 see roughly how that maps onto the world. 00:17:54.880 --> 00:17:58.960 We're not going to get into the details of that It's not 00:17:58.960 --> 00:18:01.760 really a theory because it's just a reality about the world. 00:18:01.760 --> 00:18:04.480 Different societies view these things in a different way. 00:18:04.480 --> 00:18:09.840 But essentially honor maps onto the guilt societies almost perfectly, and it 00:18:09.840 --> 00:18:15.120 is essentially a Western concept, with some few exceptions. 00:18:15.120 --> 00:18:18.800 In the shame societies it's more about not losing face, which isn't 00:18:18.880 --> 00:18:21.680 quite the same as honor. 00:18:21.680 --> 00:18:27.680 But as Wo said, honor is something that has essentially disappeared from 00:18:28.000 --> 00:18:30.160 most Western cultures. 00:18:30.160 --> 00:18:34.400 Now there are some vestiges of it here and there, but it's 00:18:34.400 --> 00:18:38.000 almost become a joke at this point. 00:18:38.000 --> 00:18:41.520 In fact it is used as the butt of many jokes in 00:18:41.520 --> 00:18:43.680 our society. 00:18:43.680 --> 00:18:48.560 And in reality you cannot have an actual proper civilization, and the 00:18:48.560 --> 00:18:51.520 map that I will put in the show notes will show this. 00:18:51.520 --> 00:18:57.440 You cannot have a proper civilization without the concept and the concrete 00:18:57.440 --> 00:19:00.560 reality and the culture of honor. 00:19:00.560 --> 00:19:05.040 And honor and loyalty are essentially synonymous, we're going to use them 00:19:05.040 --> 00:19:08.960 somewhat interchangeably, because they essentially are. 00:19:08.960 --> 00:19:13.040 The way in which you have a difference A difference with regard 00:19:13.040 --> 00:19:18.320 to honor among different groups of men or women would be essentially 00:19:18.320 --> 00:19:22.800 by gender, by sex, and by where you are in the social 00:19:22.800 --> 00:19:28.480 hierarchy. Part of that is very straightforward, very simple, because you owe 00:19:28.480 --> 00:19:32.160 duties to those who are higher in the hierarchy and different duties 00:19:32.160 --> 00:19:34.320 to those who are lower in the hierarchy. 00:19:34.320 --> 00:19:37.360 And so honor is going to play into that differently. 00:19:37.360 --> 00:19:40.240 How you are loyal to those above and how you are loyal 00:19:40.240 --> 00:19:42.000 to those below. 00:19:42.000 --> 00:19:45.840 And the difference for men and women primarily boils down to the 00:19:45.840 --> 00:19:50.960 fact that women have a smaller sphere, properly speaking, because the sphere 00:19:50.960 --> 00:19:54.480 for the woman is the home, is her family. 00:19:54.480 --> 00:19:58.080 The sphere for some men is much larger than that, not for 00:19:58.080 --> 00:19:59.200 all men. 00:19:59.200 --> 00:20:02.640 Because of course, most men shouldn't involved in politics. 00:20:02.640 --> 00:20:06.560 Our system is perverse in that every Everyone is expected to be 00:20:06.560 --> 00:20:08.880 involved in politics to some degree. 00:20:08.880 --> 00:20:10.800 That's simply not how it should work. 00:20:10.800 --> 00:20:16.080 Politics is something that should be reserved for a certain subset of 00:20:16.080 --> 00:20:20.000 the population, because they have duties with regard to that. 00:20:20.000 --> 00:20:23.520 The godly prince has a duty to rule correctly. 00:20:23.520 --> 00:20:27.040 The average man does not have a duty to rule correctly because 00:20:27.040 --> 00:20:30.160 he has not been given that authority by God. 00:20:30.160 --> 00:20:34.880 Our current system attempts to spread that authority around, which there are 00:20:34.880 --> 00:20:37.120 problems with that, which we are not getting into today. 00:20:37.120 --> 00:20:40.320 It's not the topic for this episode. 00:20:40.320 --> 00:20:43.680 Another aspect of this though, and drawing in one of those episodes 00:20:43.680 --> 00:20:48.320 that Woe mentioned, because many of our previous episodes tie into what 00:20:48.320 --> 00:20:52.240 we are discussing here, but the episode on capitalism. 00:20:52.240 --> 00:20:57.520 Because capitalism is essentially an economic system devoid of honor and devoid 00:20:57.520 --> 00:20:59.760 of loyalty. 00:20:59.760 --> 00:21:04.720 Because the only thing that matters in capitalism is profit. 00:21:04.720 --> 00:21:08.960 The entire goal is the maximization of profit, and in fact, legally 00:21:08.960 --> 00:21:13.040 speaking, if you are a corporation, you are beholden to your shareholders 00:21:13.040 --> 00:21:17.280 to maximize profit, and you can in fact be sued if you 00:21:17.280 --> 00:21:20.640 engage in behaviors that would be considered honorable and moral 00:21:22.080 --> 00:21:24.240 But are not maximizing profit. 00:21:24.240 --> 00:21:27.040 There's a Supreme Court case on that. 00:21:27.040 --> 00:21:29.360 More than one, but one main one. 00:21:29.360 --> 00:21:33.120 And so the economic system that we have starts to bleed over 00:21:33.120 --> 00:21:36.880 into our social system, and so that lack of honor, that lack 00:21:36.880 --> 00:21:43.040 of loyalty in the economic system inevitably trains men to behave in 00:21:43.040 --> 00:21:45.520 that way in all aspects of life. 00:21:45.520 --> 00:21:51.360 You are not going to behave dishonourably and without any loyalty with 00:21:51.360 --> 00:21:55.040 regard to economic matters and then turn around and drop all of 00:21:55.040 --> 00:21:59.440 that and behave as a loyal, honorable, upright man in all of 00:21:59.440 --> 00:22:00.480 your other dealings. 00:22:00.480 --> 00:22:02.240 That's simply not how human beings work. 00:22:02.240 --> 00:22:05.680 You're being trained to behave in one way or the other. 00:22:05.680 --> 00:22:09.840 And we see that because you could probably just map the growth 00:22:09.840 --> 00:22:13.200 of capitalism in the West and the decline of honor. 00:22:13.200 --> 00:22:17.040 Now there are obviously other things that played into that decline of 00:22:17.040 --> 00:22:20.800 honor in the West, but that is a huge driving force behind 00:22:20.800 --> 00:22:25.520 it. Because every single day, every time you engage with the economy, 00:22:25.520 --> 00:22:27.120 which you do constantly. 00:22:27.120 --> 00:22:31.120 It's anytime you're buying anything, anytime you're selling anything, you are engaged 00:22:31.120 --> 00:22:34.320 with the economy every day. 00:22:34.320 --> 00:22:36.480 At least unless you're a hermit. 00:22:36.480 --> 00:22:40.160 And so you are being trained to think and behave in a 00:22:40.160 --> 00:22:40.880 certain way. 00:22:41.280 --> 00:22:45.680 And we see the disastrous consequences of that because if you don't 00:22:45.600 --> 00:22:49.680 have this honor that underlies your culture, if you don't have this 00:22:49.680 --> 00:22:52.960 pervasive sense of loyalty, then you wind up with many of the 00:22:52.960 --> 00:22:55.200 problems we see today. 00:22:55.200 --> 00:22:58.720 If we still had a society that was honorable and that had 00:22:58.720 --> 00:23:01.680 loyalty, if you had men who were trained to be loyal to 00:23:01.680 --> 00:23:04.480 their own, which is essentially what you're supposed to be, it's what 00:23:04.480 --> 00:23:07.520 loyalty means, in essence. 00:23:07.520 --> 00:23:10.400 If we had that, we wouldn't have all of these problems with 00:23:10.400 --> 00:23:12.960 so-called immigration, for instance. 00:23:12.960 --> 00:23:17.520 You would not have entities that exist in this country to import 00:23:17.680 --> 00:23:22.160 hostile foreigners, because that's not only disloyal, it is dishonorable. 00:23:22.160 --> 00:23:25.920 In fact, it is also it's a betrayal and it is treason. 00:23:25.920 --> 00:23:29.440 These are problems we would not have if we still had these 00:23:29.440 --> 00:23:33.920 concepts of honor and loyalty, and these aren't foreign concepts to Christianity. 00:23:34.640 --> 00:23:37.920 These are core concepts to Christianity. 00:23:37.920 --> 00:23:40.320 Because what is it that you owe to God? 00:23:40.320 --> 00:23:44.480 You owe loyalty to God above all else. 00:23:44.480 --> 00:23:46.720 That's That's fundamental to the Christian. 00:23:46.720 --> 00:23:48.560 That's the heart of the Christian faith. 00:23:48.560 --> 00:23:50.240 And I know there's some who are going to be screaming with 00:23:50.240 --> 00:23:52.880 their hair on fire because that's not the gospel. 00:23:52.880 --> 00:23:54.880 No, it's not. 00:23:54.880 --> 00:23:58.000 Because the Christian life isn't just the gospel, as we have made 00:23:58.000 --> 00:24:03.120 so abundantly clear in many episodes now, the Christian life is the 00:24:03.120 --> 00:24:04.800 what then. 00:24:04.800 --> 00:24:08.160 You become a Christian when you believe the gospel. 00:24:08.160 --> 00:24:11.680 It is the faith that makes you a Christian, but then what 00:24:11.680 --> 00:24:12.720 do you do? 00:24:12.720 --> 00:24:16.560 The what then is the Christian life, and so that is extremely 00:24:16.560 --> 00:24:21.600 important, and the core of that is first and foremost loyalty to 00:24:21.600 --> 00:24:24.480 God. That's what the first two commandments are. 00:24:24.480 --> 00:24:26.800 It's what the third commandment is as well. 00:24:26.800 --> 00:24:31.600 But then after that, it's all loyalty to the various people within 00:24:31.600 --> 00:24:35.520 the hierarchy of society to whom you owe duties. 00:24:35.520 --> 00:24:37.680 You owe duties to your parents. 00:24:37.680 --> 00:24:40.400 You owe duties to your fellow citizen not to murder them. 00:24:40.400 --> 00:24:42.080 You owe duties to your spouse. 00:24:42.080 --> 00:24:45.120 You owe duties to your neighbor with regard to his spouse. 00:24:45.120 --> 00:24:48.480 You owe duties to your neighbor with regard to his goods. 00:24:48.480 --> 00:24:52.240 These are all duties, these are all forms of loyalty up and 00:24:52.240 --> 00:24:56.400 down that social hierarchy that are fundamental to the Christian faith, that 00:24:56.400 --> 00:24:59.760 are basically what the Ten Commandments teach. 00:24:59.760 --> 00:25:01.360 That's the moral law. 00:25:01.360 --> 00:25:05.600 The moral law flows from God's nature and is unchanging, and the 00:25:05.600 --> 00:25:08.480 heart of it is loyalty and honor. 00:25:08.480 --> 00:25:10.160 That's how Christians should behave. 00:25:10.160 --> 00:25:12.320 That's how Christians used to behave. 00:25:12.320 --> 00:25:18.240 For centuries, Christians in Christendom valued these things extremely highly. 00:25:18.240 --> 00:25:21.760 This was a core part of our culture, and it has simply 00:25:21.760 --> 00:25:26.560 been allowed to fall away over the decades, over the centuries. 00:25:26.560 --> 00:25:31.200 It has been assaulted from many different angles for different reasons. 00:25:31.200 --> 00:25:36.720 We could look at particular wars in our past that deliberately and 00:25:36.720 --> 00:25:40.800 directly attacked these concepts and undermined them. 00:25:40.800 --> 00:25:43.600 But by and large, if you look at this, you can very 00:25:43.600 --> 00:25:48.080 clearly see we are dealing with enemy action. 00:25:48.080 --> 00:25:53.840 This is Satan attempting to undermine the necessary foundation for a Christian 00:25:53.840 --> 00:25:56.480 society, for a Christian civilization. 00:25:56.480 --> 00:25:59.680 Because if you don't have these things, perhaps you'll run on momentum, 00:25:59.680 --> 00:26:01.920 you'll run on fumes as it were for a while. 00:26:01.920 --> 00:26:04.960 That's what Western civilization is currently doing. 00:26:04.960 --> 00:26:09.440 It is continuing along on the basis of momentum alone. 00:26:09.440 --> 00:26:14.160 Because the foundation is gone, to mix my metaphors here, but we 00:26:14.160 --> 00:26:18.880 have removed the foundation on which Western civilization rested. 00:26:19.120 --> 00:26:21.040 It is eventually going to collapse. 00:26:21.040 --> 00:26:23.520 It's in the process of collapsing. 00:26:23.520 --> 00:26:27.520 You have to restore the foundations, you have to restore these fundamental 00:26:27.520 --> 00:26:30.160 matters, if you are going to rebuild. 00:26:30.160 --> 00:26:33.040 Scripture has something to say about the man who builds on the 00:26:33.040 --> 00:26:37.920 sand. If you do not restore the foundation first, you are building 00:26:37.920 --> 00:26:38.960 on the sand. 00:26:38.960 --> 00:26:42.800 And so we have to have these concepts of honor and loyalty 00:26:42.800 --> 00:26:46.400 and what they mean in the concrete, not just what they mean 00:26:46.400 --> 00:26:49.520 in the abstract, because of course honor is one of those things 00:26:49.600 --> 00:26:53.600 that sometimes it's difficult to explain what exactly is honor. 00:26:53.600 --> 00:27:00.400 You almost can't explain precisely and extensively, or at least comprehensively, what 00:27:00.400 --> 00:27:01.440 honor is. 00:27:01.440 --> 00:27:04.480 It's one of those things you have to know it because you 00:27:04.480 --> 00:27:05.920 have to have it. 00:27:05.920 --> 00:27:09.440 And so explaining honor to a man who has no honor is 00:27:09.440 --> 00:27:11.440 almost an impossible task. 00:27:11.440 --> 00:27:15.200 But at the same time, we can explain what the core of 00:27:15.200 --> 00:27:20.160 honor is, because it is almost, as I said earlier, synonymous with 00:27:20.160 --> 00:27:23.600 loyalty, and we all know what loyalty is at least to some 00:27:23.600 --> 00:27:29.200 degree. As I mentioned already, that's going to display itself differently. 00:27:29.200 --> 00:27:32.320 It's going to come out differently for different people. 00:27:32.320 --> 00:27:35.920 Again, for women, that's going to be primarily a matter of chastity 00:27:35.920 --> 00:27:38.560 and fidelity because her sphere is the home. 00:27:38.560 --> 00:27:42.560 For men, it's going to be broader because men are out dealing 00:27:42.560 --> 00:27:46.240 with the world, dealing with other men, perhaps dealing with the state. 00:27:46.240 --> 00:27:48.720 And so those circles are going to be larger. 00:27:48.720 --> 00:27:52.000 And so the concept of loyalty is more encompassing to the For 00:27:52.000 --> 00:27:53.680 a man than for a woman. 00:27:53.680 --> 00:27:56.480 But we understand what loyalty is. 00:27:56.480 --> 00:28:00.320 It is the fulfilling of duty to one to whom a duty 00:28:00.320 --> 00:28:01.280 is owed. 00:28:01.280 --> 00:28:05.440 And the flip side of that, of course, is that betrayal is 00:28:05.440 --> 00:28:10.400 that failure to fulfill a duty to whom a duty is owed. 00:28:10.400 --> 00:28:14.480 Now of course it's something more than just failure, because there's a 00:28:14.480 --> 00:28:18.160 difference here between something that is done with intent and something that 00:28:18.160 --> 00:28:19.520 is done with no intent. 00:28:19.520 --> 00:28:23.520 And so if you just fail because you didn't have the capacity 00:28:23.520 --> 00:28:29.440 to fulfill a duty, that's a fundamentally different matter from being malicious, 00:28:29.440 --> 00:28:34.560 from deliberately subverting, from causing harm intentionally, that intent matters. 00:28:34.560 --> 00:28:38.960 And so when we speak of betrayal, we almost exclusively mean something 00:28:38.960 --> 00:28:42.400 that is done with that malicious intent. 00:28:43.120 --> 00:28:47.040 And then with regard to treason, some of you may have thought, 00:28:47.040 --> 00:28:48.720 well, what about petty treason? 00:28:48.720 --> 00:28:51.440 If you have legal training or something like that, or just like 00:28:51.440 --> 00:28:53.760 to read old books. 00:28:53.760 --> 00:28:58.000 Treason is essentially the betrayal of your head. 00:28:58.000 --> 00:29:01.600 And so it is someone or something, because you can betray a 00:29:01.600 --> 00:29:05.040 nation. It is someone or something to whom one of the highest 00:29:05.040 --> 00:29:06.400 duties is owed. 00:29:06.400 --> 00:29:10.880 And there's that betrayal of someone who has headship over you and 00:29:10.880 --> 00:29:14.320 is obviously higher in the hierarchy because they would need to be 00:29:14.320 --> 00:29:15.760 in order to have headship. 00:29:15.760 --> 00:29:19.360 And so first and foremost we think of high treason. 00:29:19.360 --> 00:29:22.800 High treason is betrayal of the sovereign. 00:29:22.800 --> 00:29:27.520 That would be to murder the king is high treason, for example. 00:29:27.520 --> 00:29:30.720 To betray your nation is high treason. 00:29:30.720 --> 00:29:34.080 Petty treason is the betrayal of your head. 00:29:34.320 --> 00:29:37.680 And so petty treason would be if you are a child the 00:29:37.680 --> 00:29:41.120 betrayal of your father, if you are a wife, the betrayal of 00:29:41.120 --> 00:29:44.080 your husband because he is your head. 00:29:44.080 --> 00:29:48.000 In some cases at some times this has been extended extended with 00:29:48.000 --> 00:29:52.400 regard to other headship relationships, but those are the core ones that 00:29:52.400 --> 00:29:54.080 deal with petty treason. 00:29:54.080 --> 00:29:57.840 And so just bear in mind we're typically speaking of high treason 00:29:57.840 --> 00:29:59.200 when we say just treason. 00:29:59.200 --> 00:30:01.200 That's how it has come to be used in English. 00:30:01.360 --> 00:30:05.840 When treason is said by itself, it implies very heavily high treason, 00:30:05.840 --> 00:30:08.000 not petty treason. 00:30:08.000 --> 00:30:11.760 But they are of the same kind, they are just different in 00:30:11.760 --> 00:30:17.840 degree. And so the concept, the crime that is treason is not 00:30:17.840 --> 00:30:21.760 just something that applies to the king or to the nation. 00:30:21.760 --> 00:30:25.520 There are other minor in the sense of smaller, not in the 00:30:25.520 --> 00:30:27.760 sense of less morally significant. 00:30:27.760 --> 00:30:31.040 That's a tangential issue, we'll set that aside. 00:30:31.040 --> 00:30:36.000 Minor instances of treason that can be committed by basically anyone in 00:30:36.000 --> 00:30:41.440 society. Because everyone in society has some head somewhere. 00:30:41.440 --> 00:30:44.560 There's some form of headship relationship for every person. 00:30:44.560 --> 00:30:49.840 Now, if your father has passed away and you're a man, you 00:30:49.840 --> 00:30:53.840 probably only have the godly prince as your head at that point, 00:30:53.840 --> 00:30:58.080 and Christ, obviously, because you probably don't have anyone over you if 00:30:58.080 --> 00:31:01.520 your father's passed away, assumingly your grandfather is also gone at that 00:31:01.520 --> 00:31:04.960 point. And so petty treason isn't really on the table as it 00:31:04.960 --> 00:31:06.160 were for you. 00:31:06.160 --> 00:31:10.640 But for most men, for most of those in society, petty treason 00:31:10.640 --> 00:31:12.640 is something they could very well commit. 00:31:12.640 --> 00:31:16.080 And this is another thing that we seem to think it doesn't 00:31:16.000 --> 00:31:17.120 really matter. 00:31:17.120 --> 00:31:17.600 It's just 00:31:18.720 --> 00:31:22.160 completely thrown aside because we don't care about the commandments anymore. 00:31:22.160 --> 00:31:25.200 Thou shalt honor thy mother and thy father. 00:31:25.200 --> 00:31:27.680 That's about petty treason. 00:31:27.680 --> 00:31:30.080 And you may think, well, my father's my head, how can I 00:31:30.640 --> 00:31:31.520 betray my mother? 00:31:31.520 --> 00:31:34.960 Because when you betray your mother, you're betraying your father. 00:31:34.960 --> 00:31:36.080 They are one flesh. 00:31:36.080 --> 00:31:38.160 To betray one is to betray the other. 00:31:38.160 --> 00:31:42.720 And so that is of course still petty treason. 00:31:42.720 --> 00:31:47.200 Incidentally speaking, of course, adultery is also petty treason because that is 00:31:47.200 --> 00:31:51.120 one of the greatest betrayals for a woman against her head, against 00:31:51.120 --> 00:31:52.720 her husband. 00:31:52.720 --> 00:31:54.320 That is a form of treason. 00:31:54.320 --> 00:31:58.400 That is a form of the highest sort of betrayal. 00:31:58.400 --> 00:32:01.360 And our society seems to think that's unimportant. 00:32:01.360 --> 00:32:03.520 We allow no fault divorce. 00:32:03.520 --> 00:32:06.800 We say you can just leave if you feel like it. 00:32:06.800 --> 00:32:11.360 We don't have criminal laws that punish adultery anymore, unless you're in 00:32:11.360 --> 00:32:16.480 the military, which is a weird special exception at this point. 00:32:16.480 --> 00:32:19.440 But we should have laws that criminalize adultery. 00:32:19.440 --> 00:32:22.800 That's what Scripture says, that's what God wants. 00:32:22.800 --> 00:32:26.160 He considers that an abhorrent crime. 00:32:26.160 --> 00:32:29.840 That is not something that we are free to simply ignore. 00:32:29.840 --> 00:32:34.720 Now, we don't have to import the exact civil punishments that are 00:32:34.720 --> 00:32:38.720 in the Old Testament, because the civil law does not apply word 00:32:38.720 --> 00:32:42.400 for word as it were to Christians, but we should certainly take 00:32:42.400 --> 00:32:46.480 it as very highly persuasive what God said should be the punishment 00:32:46.480 --> 00:32:50.000 for Old Testament Israel for these particular sins. 00:32:50.000 --> 00:32:54.240 At the absolute least, we should punish them in our laws. 00:32:54.240 --> 00:32:58.320 You cannot have a functional society if you don't deal with these 00:32:58.320 --> 00:33:02.400 issues. There are certain forms of betrayal, and certainly treason we all 00:33:02.400 --> 00:33:06.720 recognize must be punished, but there are certain forms of betrayal that 00:33:06.720 --> 00:33:10.560 must be punished if you are going to have a functional, and 00:33:10.560 --> 00:33:14.320 certainly if you are going to have a Christian society. 00:33:14.320 --> 00:33:19.120 If you remove these sorts of laws, and particularly if you remove 00:33:19.120 --> 00:33:24.560 honor and loyalty from your society, that is what takes you from 00:33:24.560 --> 00:33:30.080 being a Western country, a Western civilization, and turns you into one 00:33:30.080 --> 00:33:36.240 of the many other countries that deal with shame instead of guilt. 00:33:36.240 --> 00:33:40.080 Because once you've removed honor and loyalty, it's really a matter 00:33:41.120 --> 00:33:43.520 of am I going to get caught? 00:33:43.520 --> 00:33:46.880 And if I get caught, will this make me look bad? 00:33:46.880 --> 00:33:48.960 Will I lose face? 00:33:48.960 --> 00:33:51.760 With regard to other members of society? 00:33:51.760 --> 00:33:55.600 It's not a matter of is this right or wrong, should I 00:33:55.600 --> 00:33:56.480 do this? 00:33:56.480 --> 00:33:58.080 Is it wrong to do this? 00:33:58.080 --> 00:33:59.280 Is this a sin? 00:33:59.280 --> 00:34:01.360 That is what a guilt society is. 00:34:01.360 --> 00:34:04.160 It's more that matter of will I get caught? 00:34:04.160 --> 00:34:07.840 And if you get caught, does it really matter? 00:34:07.840 --> 00:34:11.520 Because in those societies, they will absolutely go ahead and do something 00:34:11.520 --> 00:34:15.040 that is morally wrongful with a high likelihood of getting caught if 00:34:15.040 --> 00:34:17.120 they won't lose face when they're caught. 00:34:17.120 --> 00:34:18.480 That's what matters. 00:34:18.640 --> 00:34:21.840 If you will look worse to those around you, then it won't 00:34:21.760 --> 00:34:22.240 be done. 00:34:22.240 --> 00:34:23.760 And now this has 00:34:24.720 --> 00:34:29.040 a great deal of applicability with regard to, say, international affairs. 00:34:29.040 --> 00:34:32.160 This is something this is not a theory, which what I'm saying 00:34:32.160 --> 00:34:34.960 is it's not a theory that's made up out of whole cloth. 00:34:34.960 --> 00:34:37.120 This is not something that someone just sat in a room and 00:34:37.120 --> 00:34:39.120 came up with and thought, well, maybe no. 00:34:39.120 --> 00:34:42.960 This is something that is taught to diplomats and used by our 00:34:42.960 --> 00:34:44.080 foreign service. 00:34:44.080 --> 00:34:46.720 Because this Because this is a very real thing. 00:34:46.720 --> 00:34:53.200 You can handle various members of different societies by recognizing that if 00:34:53.200 --> 00:34:56.080 they are going to lose face, they are going to be more 00:34:56.080 --> 00:34:58.080 willing to cooperate with you. 00:34:58.080 --> 00:35:01.200 It's not to say you can blackmail them, although of course that 00:35:01.200 --> 00:35:02.720 has been done historically. 00:35:02.720 --> 00:35:05.280 It is to say that you have to approach these things differently 00:35:05.360 --> 00:35:10.080 because these are very real cultural differences. 00:35:10.080 --> 00:35:12.800 But the shame society is not compatible 00:35:13.840 --> 00:35:17.360 with Christianity because that is not what Christianity teaches. 00:35:17.360 --> 00:35:21.680 What Christianity teaches is there is right and there is wrong, and 00:35:21.680 --> 00:35:24.560 that it is incumbent on you to do what is right, even 00:35:24.960 --> 00:35:26.400 when no one is looking. 00:35:26.400 --> 00:35:29.120 It doesn't matter if you're alone in the middle of nowhere in 00:35:29.120 --> 00:35:32.160 a field, I don't know how you're necessarily going to commit any 00:35:32.160 --> 00:35:35.840 particularly heinous sins at that point, but it is incumbent on you 00:35:35.840 --> 00:35:40.320 to act correctly, regardless of the circumstances. 00:35:40.320 --> 00:35:43.040 That is the difference between the guilt and the shame. 00:35:43.040 --> 00:35:45.600 I said I wouldn't get into it that deeply, but this is 00:35:45.600 --> 00:35:48.160 just sort of an overview of how that works, and it is 00:35:48.160 --> 00:35:49.520 very relevant because if you 00:35:50.800 --> 00:35:55.920 map the world with regard to those two things, you will essentially 00:35:55.920 --> 00:35:59.840 see which societies care about honor and which societies do not. 00:35:59.840 --> 00:36:04.960 And it essentially maps onto which societies have at least historical connections 00:36:04.960 --> 00:36:06.400 to Christianity. 00:36:06.400 --> 00:36:10.080 Now, of course, it's not just Christianity. 00:36:10.080 --> 00:36:13.920 Because a big part of culture is going to be biological. 00:36:13.920 --> 00:36:16.000 Because culture is downstream from race. 00:36:16.000 --> 00:36:17.280 We all recognize that. 00:36:17.280 --> 00:36:20.240 You can look at the culture of any given country, and it's 00:36:20.240 --> 00:36:24.480 the way it is, because the country is comprised of a certain 00:36:24.480 --> 00:36:26.480 nation, of a certain race. 00:36:26.480 --> 00:36:30.720 However, Christianity Christianity plays a role in this. 00:36:30.720 --> 00:36:35.040 Because Christianity is going to be the foundation of your moral system, 00:36:35.040 --> 00:36:37.680 at least if you've set your country up correctly. 00:36:37.680 --> 00:36:41.840 What is happening in the West is Christianity is being removed. 00:36:41.840 --> 00:36:45.200 It is no longer the foundation of our moral system. 00:36:45.200 --> 00:36:49.760 And so these underpinnings, these essential parts of the foundation that you 00:36:49.760 --> 00:36:54.560 cannot remove without having the whole structure collapse, are being eroded away. 00:36:54.560 --> 00:36:55.760 They are being removed. 00:36:55.760 --> 00:36:58.000 Some are basically gone. 00:36:58.000 --> 00:37:01.680 And the structure is simply staying because nothing has come along quite 00:37:01.680 --> 00:37:04.400 strong enough yet to knock it over. 00:37:04.400 --> 00:37:07.200 And each time you remove more of that foundation, you remove more 00:37:07.200 --> 00:37:10.480 of those supports, it's going to take less and less of a 00:37:10.480 --> 00:37:13.120 storm to knock the whole thing over. 00:37:13.120 --> 00:37:15.600 That is where we stand today. 00:37:15.600 --> 00:37:22.480 And not just Christianity has been eroded away, but our culture as 00:37:22.480 --> 00:37:26.160 a whole has been eroded away because some of the European tribes, 00:37:26.160 --> 00:37:30.480 for instance, were commented on by Roman historians and others as being 00:37:30.480 --> 00:37:34.000 particularly morally upright with regard to certain things. 00:37:34.000 --> 00:37:37.200 Sexual morality was one of the ones that was noted by particularly 00:37:37.200 --> 00:37:39.760 Tacitus with regard to the Germanic tribes. 00:37:39.760 --> 00:37:44.880 Adultery was essentially unknown and harshly punished, even when they were not 00:37:44.880 --> 00:37:52.000 Christian. And so even that racial heritage, that biological heritage has 00:37:52.000 --> 00:37:58.800 been eroded away by these essentially post-war corruptions, what we see destroying 00:37:58.800 --> 00:38:00.400 our culture from within. 00:38:00.400 --> 00:38:03.120 And as Christians we should be at the forefront of attempting to 00:38:03.680 --> 00:38:05.440 restore these things. 00:38:05.440 --> 00:38:10.000 Honor and loyalty should mean something to Christians, and not only should 00:38:10.000 --> 00:38:14.160 they mean something, they should be things for which we advocate in 00:38:14.160 --> 00:38:18.320 the strongest of terms, and things that we exemplify in our own 00:38:18.320 --> 00:38:19.280 lives. 00:38:20.000 --> 00:38:24.560 So when Cory said that adultery should be illegal. 00:38:24.640 --> 00:38:27.920 So when Corey said that adultery should be illegal, I'm sure that 00:38:27.920 --> 00:38:31.760 some people, those of you who are historically ignorant, probably got nervous 00:38:31.760 --> 00:38:32.160 at that. 00:38:32.160 --> 00:38:33.040 Maybe you laughed. 00:38:33.040 --> 00:38:35.040 Sounds ridiculous. 00:38:35.040 --> 00:38:38.880 Because sure, adultery is a moral matter, sure it's in the Ten 00:38:39.040 --> 00:38:42.800 Commandments, but you can't have laws that say that sort of thing. 00:38:42.800 --> 00:38:50.160 Well, until Maryland struck down its anti-adultery law in 1974 and California 00:38:50.320 --> 00:38:52.000 followed in seventy-five. 00:38:52.000 --> 00:38:56.160 Adultery was illegal in virtually every state, and those laws went back 00:38:56.160 --> 00:38:57.840 to the colonial era. 00:38:57.840 --> 00:39:02.000 It was illegal to commit adultery before the Constitution was passed, or 00:39:02.000 --> 00:39:03.520 before it was created. 00:39:03.520 --> 00:39:06.640 The Constitution was never really passed, but that's a matter for another 00:39:06.640 --> 00:39:11.040 day. What's conspicuous about this is that even before those laws were 00:39:11.040 --> 00:39:15.680 struck down, states beginning in the sixties stopped enforcing them one by 00:39:15.680 --> 00:39:18.400 one. So though they left the laws on the books, but they 00:39:18.400 --> 00:39:20.160 just didn't enforce them. 00:39:20.160 --> 00:39:23.840 There's still states to this day where it is a per se 00:39:23.920 --> 00:39:28.560 crime to commit adultery, but they never enforce the law anymore because 00:39:28.560 --> 00:39:34.320 they think it's unconstitutional, which is fascinating because those laws predate the 00:39:34.320 --> 00:39:35.600 Constitution itself. 00:39:35.600 --> 00:39:38.240 For centuries, under the Constitution, they were enforced. 00:39:38.240 --> 00:39:41.920 And yet, in our modern way of thinking, well, that's unconstitutional. 00:39:41.920 --> 00:39:43.040 That's obviously wrong. 00:39:43.040 --> 00:39:46.080 You should shake your finger at them at church, but if somebody 00:39:46.080 --> 00:39:49.440 wants to cheat on her husband or his wife, that's a private 00:39:49.440 --> 00:39:52.000 matter. It's a private thing between people. 00:39:52.000 --> 00:39:53.280 Consenting adults. 00:39:53.280 --> 00:39:55.520 Isn't that where some people's minds went? 00:39:55.520 --> 00:39:57.280 That's nonsense. 00:39:57.280 --> 00:40:00.960 These things are criminal matters because they're moral matters. 00:40:00.960 --> 00:40:04.560 The fact that we have separated the two so far is what 00:40:04.560 --> 00:40:07.120 makes it possible for people to think that there's no such thing 00:40:07.120 --> 00:40:08.240 as betrayal. 00:40:08.240 --> 00:40:11.920 To think that adultery is just, eh, you know, things just didn't 00:40:11.840 --> 00:40:12.560 work out. 00:40:12.560 --> 00:40:14.400 Somebody found a better deal. 00:40:14.400 --> 00:40:17.360 The idea that the law would be enforced to put those people 00:40:17.360 --> 00:40:21.600 in prison or to beat them or to fine them, whatever's under 00:40:21.600 --> 00:40:24.560 the statute at the time, it's unthinkable today. 00:40:24.560 --> 00:40:26.960 It wasn't unthinkable to our parents and grandparents. 00:40:26.960 --> 00:40:29.440 And to many of you who are listening now, we have plenty 00:40:29.440 --> 00:40:32.160 of people who are alive in nineteen seventy four who are listening 00:40:32.240 --> 00:40:34.640 that can maybe remember that. 00:40:34.640 --> 00:40:35.920 This was our country. 00:40:36.160 --> 00:40:39.680 This was the country that was burned down by the generations previous 00:40:39.680 --> 00:40:40.400 to us. 00:40:40.400 --> 00:40:44.560 That's why we did those episodes talking about generations and about inheritance 00:40:44.800 --> 00:40:45.440 and about 00:40:46.400 --> 00:40:52.240 the difference between respecting an elder as an elder and yet at 00:40:52.240 --> 00:40:55.760 the same time recognizing that many of our elders are unfit for 00:40:55.760 --> 00:40:58.720 anything except for a rocking chair. 00:40:58.720 --> 00:41:03.280 And even that, in many cases, more than they deserve in terms 00:41:03.280 --> 00:41:04.160 of earnings. 00:41:04.160 --> 00:41:07.840 We accord that honor to them because they're older, but they have 00:41:07.840 --> 00:41:10.480 burned down the country that we are inheriting. 00:41:10.480 --> 00:41:12.960 And the many of you are younger than Corey and me are 00:41:12.960 --> 00:41:18.400 inheriting. It's happened because there was a complete loss of any sense 00:41:18.400 --> 00:41:22.960 of honor or betrayal, which is quite incidentally a loss of honor 00:41:23.200 --> 00:41:25.200 in an act of betrayal. 00:41:25.200 --> 00:41:27.200 So you see why this matters? 00:41:27.200 --> 00:41:27.680 When 00:41:28.560 --> 00:41:32.960 laws that existed for centuries that kept people in check even when 00:41:32.960 --> 00:41:36.480 their hearts were wicked, that made it possible for the state to 00:41:36.480 --> 00:41:40.000 say this is undermining the very fabric of society. 00:41:40.400 --> 00:41:43.520 Today, we in the church have to fight a rear guarded action 00:41:43.520 --> 00:41:46.880 against many in the pulpits who scream, you can't make that illegal. 00:41:46.880 --> 00:41:49.280 We gotta reach those people with the gospel. 00:41:49.280 --> 00:41:50.800 Absolute nonsense. 00:41:50.800 --> 00:41:51.760 Absolute nonsense. 00:41:52.160 --> 00:41:54.400 The law is for the transgressor. 00:41:54.400 --> 00:41:57.280 The gospel is for the penitent. 00:41:57.280 --> 00:42:00.800 When we have transgressions that are burning down families, that are burning 00:42:00.800 --> 00:42:06.000 down communities, churches, and entire civilizations, that's not a gospel matter. 00:42:06.000 --> 00:42:08.160 That's a matter for the sword. 00:42:08.160 --> 00:42:11.440 And Cory and I make so many people angry when we talk 00:42:11.440 --> 00:42:15.520 this way, but it is the entire history of Christendom. 00:42:15.520 --> 00:42:17.280 We're not the weird ones. 00:42:17.280 --> 00:42:19.280 We're the bad guys for saying, you know what? 00:42:19.680 --> 00:42:23.120 What people were doing 200 years ago or 100 years ago, that 00:42:23.120 --> 00:42:24.400 was actually okay. 00:42:24.400 --> 00:42:26.000 That shouldn't be controversial. 00:42:26.000 --> 00:42:29.120 That should be the least controversial thing in the universe to say 00:42:29.280 --> 00:42:33.760 I respect what my great grandparents held as laws and morals. 00:42:33.760 --> 00:42:37.280 Doesn't mean they were perfect, but to say everything they did was 00:42:37.280 --> 00:42:40.880 wrong because the post-war consensus says we have to go the other 00:42:40.880 --> 00:42:43.840 direction, that's as Corey said, that's enemy action. 00:42:43.840 --> 00:42:47.600 That is new, it's modern, and it's so entrenched in our hearts 00:42:47.600 --> 00:42:51.200 now that we can't think of anything in terms of betrayal. 00:42:51.200 --> 00:42:55.120 Our forefathers certainly didn't, the boomers didn't betray us. 00:42:55.120 --> 00:42:57.040 There's no such thing as betrayal. 00:42:57.280 --> 00:43:00.880 We are faced with a situation where we have to identify that 00:43:00.880 --> 00:43:04.160 these things are occurring and we have to trace the roots back 00:43:04.160 --> 00:43:05.840 to who is causing them. 00:43:05.840 --> 00:43:09.920 Because in every one of these conversations, you're gonna have that Judas 00:43:09.920 --> 00:43:13.440 holding the empty money bag, saying, I need the money that's over 00:43:13.440 --> 00:43:14.560 there on that table. 00:43:14.560 --> 00:43:17.920 This is what many churches are doing today in an act of 00:43:17.920 --> 00:43:22.080 betrayal against the younger generations by going to the older people who 00:43:22.080 --> 00:43:23.680 are getting well up in years. 00:43:24.080 --> 00:43:27.520 They are looking at estate planning if they have enough money for 00:43:27.520 --> 00:43:28.640 that sort of thing. 00:43:28.640 --> 00:43:30.320 And what are the churches doing? 00:43:30.320 --> 00:43:33.280 They're saying, Oh, your kids can take care of themselves. 00:43:33.280 --> 00:43:34.400 Your kids are just fine. 00:43:34.400 --> 00:43:36.320 You don't need to worry about their inheritance. 00:43:36.320 --> 00:43:38.080 We have this program over here. 00:43:38.080 --> 00:43:41.760 It's a wonderful program where we're giving free cars to Somalians in 00:43:41.760 --> 00:43:44.560 Ohio so that they can get to the job that's being paid 00:43:44.560 --> 00:43:48.880 for by an NGO that was taken away from an Ohioan. 00:43:49.040 --> 00:43:50.960 I was born and raised in Ohio. 00:43:50.960 --> 00:43:52.160 I take that personally. 00:43:52.160 --> 00:43:54.080 My family lived there for 200 years. 00:43:54.080 --> 00:43:55.280 And Ohio is not special. 00:43:55.280 --> 00:43:58.080 It's everywhere in the country is the same thing is happening. 00:43:58.080 --> 00:44:00.880 It's just that thanks to one of my friends on X this 00:44:00.880 --> 00:44:05.920 past week, that particular story blew up, but it is a microcosm. 00:44:05.920 --> 00:44:12.880 The cat eating Haitian demoniacs in Springfield, Ohio, they're everywhere. 00:44:12.880 --> 00:44:16.880 Maybe not in the numbers of 20,000 in a town of sixty 00:44:16.880 --> 00:44:19.600 thousand before they showed up, but they're everywhere. 00:44:19.600 --> 00:44:21.200 They're being shipped into the heartland. 00:44:21.200 --> 00:44:22.960 There's nowhere for anyone to hide. 00:44:22.960 --> 00:44:25.280 And the church is like, oh, come, come. 00:44:25.280 --> 00:44:27.040 Why? Because there's money. 00:44:27.040 --> 00:44:30.320 There are NGOs from overseas and in this country. 00:44:30.320 --> 00:44:34.560 There are federal programs that are flowing money through the coffers of 00:44:34.560 --> 00:44:35.920 those churches. 00:44:35.920 --> 00:44:39.040 And sometimes it's an official program and sometimes it's just something they 00:44:39.040 --> 00:44:40.000 do on the side. 00:44:40.000 --> 00:44:44.880 The LCMS has what they call an RSO, a registered service organization. 00:44:44.880 --> 00:44:49.200 It's not an official organ, but it's officially recognized as a way 00:44:49.200 --> 00:44:50.720 for these things to happen. 00:44:50.720 --> 00:44:54.480 And so you will have these RSOs and every denomination does the 00:44:54.480 --> 00:44:58.240 same thing where they're taking federal grant money, they're taking money from 00:44:58.240 --> 00:45:01.200 NGOs, and they're using it to 00:45:02.080 --> 00:45:07.040 commit what is, according to the UN, an actual act of genocide. 00:45:06.960 --> 00:45:11.280 We'll link in the show notes the UN document that covers the 00:45:11.280 --> 00:45:12.640 definition of genocide. 00:45:12.640 --> 00:45:16.240 And if any of the five prongs are met, you have what 00:45:16.240 --> 00:45:18.080 they call a genocide. 00:45:18.080 --> 00:45:20.720 That is what's being done in our communities. 00:45:20.720 --> 00:45:22.480 Why? Because they're white. 00:45:22.480 --> 00:45:27.600 All of this when we're talking about this displacement is fundamentally racial. 00:45:27.840 --> 00:45:31.040 1964 the United States was about 90% white. 00:45:31.040 --> 00:45:32.720 Today it's maybe 55. 00:45:32.960 --> 00:45:34.880 That didn't happen organically. 00:45:34.880 --> 00:45:38.800 That was a very deliberately targeted betrayal. 00:45:38.800 --> 00:45:39.760 It was treason. 00:45:39.760 --> 00:45:41.520 It was high treason. 00:45:41.520 --> 00:45:46.640 Because one of the interesting things about the way The way treason 00:45:46.640 --> 00:45:49.520 is treated legally, even in the United States, where we don't have 00:45:49.520 --> 00:45:51.840 a king, we don't have a sovereign. 00:45:51.840 --> 00:45:57.600 But there's still a recognition that to commit treason against the nation 00:45:57.840 --> 00:46:02.320 is a greater crime than murdering hundreds or thousands of people. 00:46:02.320 --> 00:46:06.960 When you betray the nation, you are in effect murdering everyone at 00:46:06.960 --> 00:46:11.040 once. And that is why treason is treated more seriously than anything 00:46:11.040 --> 00:46:15.520 else. Unfortunately, there hasn't been a single treason execution in this country 00:46:15.680 --> 00:46:17.440 since I think eighteen sixty two. 00:46:17.440 --> 00:46:20.640 It was during the Civil War someone was tried and executed for 00:46:20.640 --> 00:46:27.760 treason. The Rosenbergs, Julius and Ethel Rosenberg, were the 00:46:27.760 --> 00:46:34.080 last people who were executed for espionage because they stole nuclear secrets 00:46:34.240 --> 00:46:39.360 from our nation and gave them to the United Soviet Socialist Republic. 00:46:39.360 --> 00:46:41.520 They were Jews, of course. 00:46:41.520 --> 00:46:45.360 Virtually all of the traitors, virtually all of the betrayal that occurred 00:46:45.360 --> 00:46:49.040 in that period with communism was Jews, overwhelmingly. 00:46:49.040 --> 00:46:51.280 There were very few exceptions where it wasn't Jews. 00:46:51.280 --> 00:46:52.560 And they were born here. 00:46:52.560 --> 00:46:57.040 They were born to so-called Russian Jews who emigrated before they were 00:46:57.040 --> 00:46:59.520 born. So they were US citizens. 00:46:59.520 --> 00:47:03.520 They had every right under the law to be here. 00:47:04.160 --> 00:47:08.880 I'm glad that they were executed for espionage and not treason, because 00:47:09.040 --> 00:47:10.640 it wasn't treason. 00:47:10.640 --> 00:47:14.160 It was in the sense that espionage is just a special category 00:47:14.160 --> 00:47:18.080 of treason, but treason implies a sense of duty, as we said 00:47:18.080 --> 00:47:22.240 earlier. The Jew in this country has no duty to this country, 00:47:22.240 --> 00:47:24.160 and they always make that clear. 00:47:24.160 --> 00:47:29.120 There are hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of examples of all manner 00:47:29.120 --> 00:47:33.280 of evil being done, and when the heat gets too hot, they 00:47:33.280 --> 00:47:34.880 run home to Israel. 00:47:34.880 --> 00:47:39.360 Israel has more people fleeing prosecution than almost any other country on 00:47:39.360 --> 00:47:41.840 earth. 'Cause they don't extradite you if you're a Jew. 00:47:41.840 --> 00:47:43.760 It's just not gonna happen. 00:47:43.760 --> 00:47:48.400 And so when people like the Rosenbergs betray this country, betray the 00:47:48.400 --> 00:47:52.400 trust that they had as natural-born citizens, they were not in fact 00:47:52.480 --> 00:47:55.440 committing treason because they had no duty to America. 00:47:55.440 --> 00:47:56.640 They were not ever American. 00:47:57.600 --> 00:48:02.480 They were first and only ever Jews, because that's how that works. 00:48:02.480 --> 00:48:06.000 And so when they were executed for espionage, it was because they 00:48:06.000 --> 00:48:08.400 betrayed this country, but it wasn't their country. 00:48:08.400 --> 00:48:11.920 They were being loyal to their own people by stealing our secrets 00:48:11.920 --> 00:48:14.240 to weaken the United States. 00:48:14.800 --> 00:48:17.760 That's why it's important to be clear with these terms, because if 00:48:17.760 --> 00:48:20.560 there's no duty, then there can't be treason. 00:48:20.560 --> 00:48:24.880 Now there may well still be betrayal, which is the sense of 00:48:25.360 --> 00:48:28.240 betraying trust, which was absolutely the case. 00:48:28.240 --> 00:48:29.680 They were trusted Americans. 00:48:29.680 --> 00:48:34.400 They achieved access to those nuclear secrets, and they stole them, and 00:48:34.400 --> 00:48:37.920 they used them to our detriment because they hate us, because that 00:48:37.920 --> 00:48:40.000 is what is in their blood. 00:48:40.000 --> 00:48:44.800 We did an episode two months ago or so now with Will 00:48:44.800 --> 00:48:48.080 Spencer where we had done Corey and I did about six and 00:48:48.320 --> 00:48:50.720 a half hours on his show and we used it as our 00:48:50.720 --> 00:48:52.400 content one week. 00:48:52.400 --> 00:48:54.000 And it was a great conversation. 00:48:54.000 --> 00:48:55.840 It was a six and a half hour conversation. 00:48:55.840 --> 00:48:59.520 I'd been talking to Will for you know seven or eight months 00:48:59.520 --> 00:49:00.320 at that point in private. 00:49:00.320 --> 00:49:03.200 I never said in public that we were friends. 00:49:03.200 --> 00:49:06.800 He has on paper a bigger platform than we do. 00:49:06.800 --> 00:49:09.360 And I never do anything to ride coattails. 00:49:09.520 --> 00:49:11.680 If someone wants to listen to Stone Car, that's great. 00:49:11.680 --> 00:49:13.120 That's your private business. 00:49:13.280 --> 00:49:15.520 I would never try to exploit that and say, hey, look how 00:49:15.520 --> 00:49:17.440 cool we are, people listen. 00:49:17.440 --> 00:49:19.600 Not our bag. 00:49:19.600 --> 00:49:22.720 When he invited us to come on his show, on his after 00:49:22.720 --> 00:49:25.760 dark special behind the paywall, we thought, sure, yeah, it's they'll be 00:49:25.760 --> 00:49:28.800 interesting, it'll be nice to reach a new audience. 00:49:28.800 --> 00:49:32.000 And I knew that Will and I were basically on the same 00:49:32.000 --> 00:49:32.960 page about most things. 00:49:32.960 --> 00:49:34.400 Not everything, but that's fine. 00:49:34.560 --> 00:49:36.560 Nobody's on the same page about everything. 00:49:36.560 --> 00:49:39.120 That's a bizarre, unnatural notion. 00:49:39.360 --> 00:49:40.640 Like just that's inhuman. 00:49:40.640 --> 00:49:43.120 Corey and I aren't on the same page about everything, but if 00:49:43.120 --> 00:49:44.960 we want to argue, we'll do it in private. 00:49:44.960 --> 00:49:47.840 It's much more interesting to argue in private with friends. 00:49:47.840 --> 00:49:51.600 So the idea that if someone doesn't agree with absolutely everything that 00:49:51.600 --> 00:49:54.320 someone says, you somehow have to make an excuse for it. 00:49:54.320 --> 00:49:55.840 It's this modern verbal take. 00:49:55.840 --> 00:49:57.920 I don't even know where it came from, but we all do 00:49:57.920 --> 00:49:58.480 it now. 00:49:58.480 --> 00:50:00.720 I'm doing it right now, saying why I obviously don't agree with 00:50:00.720 --> 00:50:03.760 everything. Like there's just it's a default rote response when you talk 00:50:03.760 --> 00:50:04.320 about somebody. 00:50:04.480 --> 00:50:05.680 It's idiotic. 00:50:05.680 --> 00:50:08.320 You don't agree with everything I say, or you wouldn't be a 00:50:08.320 --> 00:50:09.440 human being. 00:50:09.440 --> 00:50:10.800 You'd be a robot. 00:50:10.800 --> 00:50:12.960 I don't want you to agree with everything I say. 00:50:12.960 --> 00:50:15.360 I want you to think about what I say, and then agree 00:50:15.360 --> 00:50:16.560 with the parts that are right. 00:50:16.560 --> 00:50:19.440 And they're all right, and you'll figure that out later, but that's 00:50:19.440 --> 00:50:21.280 not my concern. 00:50:21.280 --> 00:50:25.680 When Will and I talked, he talked about being Jewish, all four 00:50:25.680 --> 00:50:29.680 was grandparents are Jewish, he was raised Jewish, Barv Metzvah, the whole 00:50:29.680 --> 00:50:32.400 nine yards, and he claimed to be a Christian. 00:50:32.400 --> 00:50:34.000 Like, okay, fine. 00:50:34.000 --> 00:50:36.800 Great. I finally have another Jewish friend. 00:50:36.800 --> 00:50:38.000 He's a Christian. 00:50:38.000 --> 00:50:40.560 I have no problem with anything that he's saying or doing. 00:50:40.560 --> 00:50:43.200 Whatever. He's not doing a bunch of sneaky Jew stuff. 00:50:43.200 --> 00:50:47.680 He's just telling people to, you know, basically be decent men. 00:50:47.680 --> 00:50:49.360 I have no problem with that. 00:50:49.360 --> 00:50:52.240 We went on a show, and within a few hours of us 00:50:52.240 --> 00:50:55.120 going on, he backstabbed us very publicly. 00:50:55.120 --> 00:50:57.040 He pulled down the episodes. 00:50:57.040 --> 00:51:01.600 He published the screed against Corey in particular, trying to divide Corey 00:51:01.600 --> 00:51:02.960 and me, as though that's possible. 00:51:02.960 --> 00:51:04.000 I'll tell you this. 00:51:04.000 --> 00:51:06.560 I have more loyalty to Corey than anyone else. 00:51:06.560 --> 00:51:09.040 If I have a problem with him, you're never gonna hear about 00:51:09.040 --> 00:51:11.760 it. Because if you come at him, you're coming at me, period. 00:51:12.400 --> 00:51:16.080 So the notion that someone could divide us is preposterous. 00:51:16.080 --> 00:51:19.040 Loyalty means brother first. 00:51:19.040 --> 00:51:22.160 And for whatever reason I guess he thought that he could you 00:51:22.160 --> 00:51:25.040 know exploit that, so he was trying to play play me against 00:51:25.040 --> 00:51:28.000 him to divide us, which was incredibly stupid. 00:51:28.240 --> 00:51:29.920 he's not very bright. 00:51:30.240 --> 00:51:33.520 And he went after us basically saying it was a bunch of 00:51:33.600 --> 00:51:36.960 you know genocide and Nazi stuff and he immediately, as soon as 00:51:36.960 --> 00:51:38.080 he pulled down the episode 00:51:38.960 --> 00:51:42.400 Said, next month I'm gonna be doing an anti-Hitler episode and I'm 00:51:42.320 --> 00:51:44.400 gonna be laying bare all this stuff. 00:51:44.400 --> 00:51:47.600 And so we called it out at the time, but didn't really 00:51:47.600 --> 00:51:48.880 say much about it. 00:51:48.880 --> 00:51:53.600 And you know, he was making threats about attacking specific things we 00:51:53.600 --> 00:51:54.720 had said. 00:51:54.720 --> 00:51:57.360 Okay, whatever. 00:51:57.360 --> 00:52:02.720 This past Friday, just after we would have published today's recording about 00:52:02.720 --> 00:52:05.200 betrayal, if we had finished last week. 00:52:05.200 --> 00:52:08.400 I'm glad we didn't because we get to address this directly. 00:52:08.400 --> 00:52:12.400 He published the anti-Hitler stuff that he had promised and went full 00:52:12.400 --> 00:52:17.200 Ju mode right down the list, talking about Holocaust denial, being low 00:52:17.200 --> 00:52:20.480 IQ, and just all the CNN stuff. 00:52:20.480 --> 00:52:24.480 Which I found fascinating because in the many months of discussions I'd 00:52:24.480 --> 00:52:27.920 had with him in private, completely privately, he said the exact opposite. 00:52:28.960 --> 00:52:32.800 He had his own personal secret theory about the Holocaust that he 00:52:32.800 --> 00:52:37.280 was so paranoid of sharing that he said he wouldn't discuss it 00:52:37.280 --> 00:52:39.200 un unless he was away from phones. 00:52:39.200 --> 00:52:41.360 So I never heard what it was, but I can tell you 00:52:41.360 --> 00:52:44.720 for a fact, based on his description of how paranoid he was 00:52:44.720 --> 00:52:48.160 about what he thinks actually happened in the Holocaust, it wasn't whatever 00:52:48.160 --> 00:52:49.280 he put up last week. 00:52:49.280 --> 00:52:53.120 And so I was offended on behalf of our listeners who were 00:52:53.120 --> 00:52:58.400 all being called low IQ for for saying the true things about 00:52:58.560 --> 00:53:01.360 20th century history that I called him out. 00:53:01.360 --> 00:53:04.160 I said that Will Spencer was a liar, a slander, and a 00:53:04.160 --> 00:53:08.400 coward. And I said I have months of DMs that prove that 00:53:08.400 --> 00:53:09.600 he's a liar. 00:53:09.760 --> 00:53:12.400 And I said this publicly, I didn't publish anything. 00:53:12.400 --> 00:53:15.200 I said, Well, you're a liar and I can prove it. 00:53:15.200 --> 00:53:17.280 And I specifically called him out. 00:53:17.280 --> 00:53:20.080 And the whole reason I'm talking about this is to explain my 00:53:20.080 --> 00:53:24.000 conduct because some people were concerned and it's right to have questions. 00:53:24.000 --> 00:53:26.880 Because if you just look at one thing, you would think that 00:53:26.880 --> 00:53:29.600 what I did to him next was betrayal. 00:53:29.600 --> 00:53:32.000 I told him and I gave him three hours. 00:53:32.000 --> 00:53:34.400 I know for a fact that he saw the posts. 00:53:34.400 --> 00:53:36.800 I said, Will, you're a liar. 00:53:36.800 --> 00:53:39.440 I have screenshots from DMs that prove it. 00:53:39.440 --> 00:53:42.240 Ask me not to publish them. 00:53:42.240 --> 00:53:46.640 This is crucial because if I had just blasted out what he 00:53:46.640 --> 00:53:48.880 had said in private to me, that would have been a betrayal 00:53:48.880 --> 00:53:49.520 of trust. 00:53:49.520 --> 00:53:50.960 I would never do that to anyone. 00:53:50.960 --> 00:53:53.440 In the seven or eight years that I've been online, I've never 00:53:53.440 --> 00:53:56.640 once taken anything that someone said to me in private and made 00:53:56.640 --> 00:53:57.280 it public. 00:53:57.280 --> 00:53:59.600 Certainly not to go after them. 00:53:59.600 --> 00:54:03.360 In fact I didn't even take those screenshots until Friday afternoon after 00:54:03.360 --> 00:54:04.960 he published his thing. 00:54:04.960 --> 00:54:07.600 I wasn't looking for a setup. 00:54:07.600 --> 00:54:10.880 When he did that, when he attacked us directly, I'm like, okay 00:54:11.280 --> 00:54:15.520 This man's credibility is a key factor in him trying to destroy 00:54:15.520 --> 00:54:16.400 our credibility. 00:54:16.400 --> 00:54:19.280 So if we're going to have a contest over who's more credible, 00:54:19.280 --> 00:54:23.200 his lies in public versus what he said truthfully in private are 00:54:23.360 --> 00:54:24.480 entirely germane. 00:54:24.800 --> 00:54:26.640 So I gave him the opportunity. 00:54:26.640 --> 00:54:30.480 I have screenshots approve Will Spencer a liar, ask me in public 00:54:30.480 --> 00:54:31.520 not to publish them. 00:54:31.520 --> 00:54:34.320 Had he simply tweeted back to me don't, no one would have 00:54:34.320 --> 00:54:35.200 ever seen them. 00:54:35.200 --> 00:54:38.960 And so after several hours, after the deadline passed that I given 00:54:38.960 --> 00:54:42.960 to him, and I know he saw it, I began publishing screenshots 00:54:42.960 --> 00:54:46.560 that proved that everything that he said about us, directed at us, 00:54:46.560 --> 00:54:50.160 about the subjects we were talking about, were bald face lies, where 00:54:50.240 --> 00:54:53.600 the exact opposite of what he himself believes that I'm not gonna 00:54:53.600 --> 00:54:54.320 go into the details. 00:54:54.320 --> 00:54:55.600 If you don't want to see it's fine. 00:54:55.600 --> 00:54:58.880 Because it's not about Twitter drama or anything else. 00:54:58.880 --> 00:55:03.040 It's about the fact that I would not betray anyone's trust. 00:55:03.360 --> 00:55:06.160 If you talk to me in private, it's private, period. 00:55:06.160 --> 00:55:07.600 I absolutely mean that. 00:55:07.600 --> 00:55:09.520 And I meant it in Will's case too. 00:55:09.520 --> 00:55:12.720 But when he attacked my credibility, when he calls me a low 00:55:12.880 --> 00:55:16.800 IQ Nazi in public, effectively, that's the thing, these guys won't name 00:55:16.800 --> 00:55:20.400 names and won't say this guy is until we punch back most 00:55:20.400 --> 00:55:21.520 of them. 00:55:21.520 --> 00:55:26.080 I said, Will, tell me not to publish those screenshots to prove 00:55:26.080 --> 00:55:26.800 you a liar. 00:55:26.800 --> 00:55:29.120 He couldn't even do that, and so I published them, because at 00:55:29.120 --> 00:55:30.160 that point he had given me permission 00:55:31.280 --> 00:55:34.960 by not saying no, he had said yes. 00:55:34.960 --> 00:55:38.960 And it was necessary for me to do that because the things 00:55:38.960 --> 00:55:42.560 that he said contra the programming that we have done in the 00:55:42.560 --> 00:55:45.200 past were all riddled with lies. 00:55:45.200 --> 00:55:49.920 He quoted open Luciferians, he used fabricated evidence. 00:55:49.920 --> 00:55:51.280 It was a disaster. 00:55:51.280 --> 00:55:53.680 And so his credibility is a key part of that. 00:55:53.680 --> 00:55:56.320 Because all of this is about credibility. 00:55:56.320 --> 00:56:02.560 Reputation, slander, whether or not someone is acting honorably, a lot of 00:56:02.560 --> 00:56:05.360 times you just have to have confidence in the man himself. 00:56:05.360 --> 00:56:07.600 You can't know what's in someone's heart. 00:56:07.600 --> 00:56:11.440 And so I would have kept in confidence, this thing Zev said, 00:56:11.440 --> 00:56:13.520 if he'd simply passed me to. 00:56:13.520 --> 00:56:16.880 But if you come after us and if you come after the 00:56:16.880 --> 00:56:19.360 truth, we're gonna make it hurt. 00:56:19.360 --> 00:56:21.200 Because it's not self-defense. 00:56:21.200 --> 00:56:25.680 This is about everyone who is standing up against these lies that 00:56:25.680 --> 00:56:28.320 have been told for the last forty or fifty years. 00:56:28.320 --> 00:56:31.200 Every time a man stands up as we have stood up and 00:56:31.200 --> 00:56:36.400 calls BS and says this pack of things, this is dishonorable, you're 00:56:36.400 --> 00:56:39.600 actually betraying the trust of those to whom you're speaking. 00:56:39.600 --> 00:56:41.680 Because most people don't know any better. 00:56:41.840 --> 00:56:44.640 Whatever the last thing people heard is what they're gonna believe. 00:56:44.640 --> 00:56:47.360 That's why we frequently say, Don't just believe what we say. 00:56:47.440 --> 00:56:50.400 Because if we're last voice in your head, sure you're gonna be 00:56:50.400 --> 00:56:53.040 right, but I don't want you to be haphazardly right. 00:56:53.040 --> 00:56:56.000 I want you to struggle with the things that bother you and 00:56:56.000 --> 00:56:57.840 then realize that it's true. 00:56:57.840 --> 00:56:59.680 And then at that point it's belongs to you. 00:56:59.680 --> 00:57:01.600 It's got nothing to do with us or anyone else. 00:57:01.600 --> 00:57:05.920 The truth does not have a possessor, but it does have attackers. 00:57:05.920 --> 00:57:08.880 And when Will Spencer made himself an attacker of the truth that 00:57:08.880 --> 00:57:12.240 we have shared here, he made himself a part of the fight 00:57:12.240 --> 00:57:13.920 that is ongoing. 00:57:13.920 --> 00:57:18.160 And when we do things like this, I'm making the defense here 00:57:18.160 --> 00:57:20.640 that we're doing it in defense of you. 00:57:20.640 --> 00:57:22.960 My reputation is forever destroyed. 00:57:22.960 --> 00:57:25.280 There's I will never get my reputation back. 00:57:25.280 --> 00:57:27.520 I had a great reputation till two years ago. 00:57:27.520 --> 00:57:28.800 And I'm fine with that. 00:57:28.800 --> 00:57:30.160 It's despicable. 00:57:30.160 --> 00:57:31.520 But I didn't do any of this. 00:57:31.520 --> 00:57:34.560 Corey didn't do any of this so that we would be liked 00:57:34.720 --> 00:57:37.200 by friends, by enemies, by anyone. 00:57:37.200 --> 00:57:40.080 Telling the truth is honorable. 00:57:40.080 --> 00:57:42.880 It is the highest honor that we can accord to you is 00:57:42.880 --> 00:57:46.320 to tell you the truth, even knowing that you're not gonna like 00:57:46.320 --> 00:57:48.960 it. That's all I've got. 00:57:48.960 --> 00:57:53.440 We tackle tough subjects specifically because no one else will, and we 00:57:53.440 --> 00:57:56.960 make the reasonable simple case because once you hear it, you're like, 00:57:56.960 --> 00:58:02.080 well, yeah, I didn't know that Bonhoffer was a Christ denying demon. 00:58:02.080 --> 00:58:04.080 I didn't know that he was a betrayer. 00:58:04.080 --> 00:58:06.640 I thought he was, you know, a Lutheran theologian and he fought 00:58:06.640 --> 00:58:08.800 Hitler and, you know, what a great guy. 00:58:08.800 --> 00:58:12.000 When you hear the truth about the man, suddenly when guys like 00:58:12.000 --> 00:58:17.520 Will Spencer, who went full Ju mode, listing Churchill and MLK and 00:58:17.520 --> 00:58:23.600 Bonhoeffer, listing these wicked men as pillars of his religion, I take 00:58:23.600 --> 00:58:24.640 that as true. 00:58:24.640 --> 00:58:25.600 It's true. 00:58:25.600 --> 00:58:27.200 He's proven it's true. 00:58:27.200 --> 00:58:31.280 These men are all proving it's true that Christ deniers are their 00:58:31.280 --> 00:58:33.520 martyrs and their saints. 00:58:35.920 --> 00:58:40.480 When we look at these situations in the church, remember, uh until 00:58:40.480 --> 00:58:43.600 the afternoon that he betrayed me, I thought we were good friends. 00:58:43.600 --> 00:58:45.920 I considered him a good friend, not just a friend. 00:58:45.920 --> 00:58:47.600 Like we talked about a lot of stuff. 00:58:47.600 --> 00:58:49.920 Private things, things that were embarrassing. 00:58:49.920 --> 00:58:51.200 I deleted the thing. 00:58:51.200 --> 00:58:52.880 I never took any other screenshots. 00:58:52.880 --> 00:58:55.840 I would never have said anything to embarrass him. 00:58:55.840 --> 00:59:00.000 The sole purpose of exposing the narrow set of things that I 00:59:00.000 --> 00:59:02.640 did was to prove I'm a liar. 00:59:02.640 --> 00:59:05.680 Because you can call me a lot of things, but you call 00:59:05.680 --> 00:59:08.720 me a liar and I will draw blood. 00:59:08.720 --> 00:59:11.200 I take that incredibly seriously. 00:59:11.200 --> 00:59:13.920 And you should too, as a matter of honor. 00:59:13.920 --> 00:59:18.160 If your word means nothing, then keep your mouth shut. 00:59:18.160 --> 00:59:20.240 And for some men, that's the best they can do. 00:59:20.240 --> 00:59:22.480 Some men don't have anything to say, and that's fine. 00:59:22.480 --> 00:59:25.600 But if a man opens his mouth and takes a risk and 00:59:25.600 --> 00:59:30.880 is attacked for it and has his reputation destroyed in its lies, 00:59:30.880 --> 00:59:33.920 then I will defend such a man, and I will even if 00:59:33.920 --> 00:59:37.120 it's me, if it's Cory, if it's anyone who has defended us 00:59:37.120 --> 00:59:41.840 in public, the precious few who have, that is something that's honorable. 00:59:41.840 --> 00:59:44.880 And the betrayal is always coming from within because it has to. 00:59:44.880 --> 00:59:46.720 You can only betray if there's trust. 00:59:46.720 --> 00:59:47.760 Will betrayed me. 00:59:47.760 --> 00:59:48.880 I didn't betray him. 00:59:48.880 --> 00:59:50.560 He betrayed me by backstabbing me. 00:59:51.680 --> 00:59:52.960 And you know what? 00:59:52.960 --> 00:59:55.920 I went from having one Jewish friend to zero Jewish friends. 00:59:55.920 --> 00:59:58.480 And I promise you this, it will stay that way until the 00:59:58.480 --> 00:59:59.520 day I die. 00:59:59.520 --> 01:00:01.840 The one man that I gave a chance who pretended to be 01:00:01.840 --> 01:00:03.520 a Christian who did that, okay. 01:00:04.400 --> 01:00:05.520 Lesson learned. 01:00:05.520 --> 01:00:08.000 I'm happy to be a public fool for the sake of being 01:00:08.000 --> 01:00:09.520 an example to everyone else. 01:00:09.520 --> 01:00:11.280 Never make that mistake. 01:00:11.280 --> 01:00:16.240 Because when push comes to shove, it's Rosenbergs all the way down. 01:00:16.240 --> 01:00:19.280 If you don't believe that betrayal is possible and you don't believe 01:00:19.280 --> 01:00:24.240 that honorable conduct exists really, then everything I just said is nonsense. 01:00:24.240 --> 01:00:26.640 It's just like this guy got mad at that guy and they 01:00:26.640 --> 01:00:30.160 were having a f spat and should have handled it in private. 01:00:30.160 --> 01:00:32.880 If you think a betrayal is possible, then the question is who 01:00:32.880 --> 01:00:35.840 betrayed whom and who acted honorably. 01:00:35.840 --> 01:00:36.160 And 01:00:37.120 --> 01:00:39.360 again, I didn't know any of that stuff was gonna happen when 01:00:39.360 --> 01:00:42.560 we picked the picked the topic for this episode two weeks ago. 01:00:42.560 --> 01:00:47.360 So when I give these examples to acknowledge publicly that that looks 01:00:47.360 --> 01:00:51.040 superficially in a very narrow sense like an example of betrayal, but 01:00:51.040 --> 01:00:52.720 I was not the betrayer. 01:00:52.720 --> 01:00:53.760 He was. 01:00:53.760 --> 01:00:55.920 All he All he had to do for me not to say 01:00:55.920 --> 01:00:57.440 that publicly was say don't. 01:00:57.440 --> 01:01:00.160 And no one would have ever heard anything about this. 01:01:00.160 --> 01:01:03.680 Because remember, I knew all that stuff when he backstabbed me two 01:01:03.680 --> 01:01:04.400 months ago. 01:01:04.400 --> 01:01:05.600 I kept my mouth shut. 01:01:05.600 --> 01:01:07.120 It wasn't out for blood. 01:01:07.120 --> 01:01:10.320 It was only after he came at the truth that we had 01:01:10.320 --> 01:01:14.000 shared that others had believed and said, You're low IQ and stupid 01:01:14.160 --> 01:01:15.840 if you agree with those guys. 01:01:15.840 --> 01:01:18.800 I will go to bat for that every time. 01:01:18.800 --> 01:01:21.440 And it's important at some point for there to be men with 01:01:21.440 --> 01:01:25.520 both honor and a sense of belligerence about these things. 01:01:25.520 --> 01:01:29.600 Because every time men come after the truth and you have guys 01:01:29.600 --> 01:01:31.840 who just want to be academic about it and say, Oh, well, 01:01:31.840 --> 01:01:34.720 you know, we let's have a debate, let's kind of settle things 01:01:34.720 --> 01:01:37.280 out. We should all try to get on the same page. 01:01:37.280 --> 01:01:40.000 If you're not willing to draw blood for what is true, why 01:01:40.000 --> 01:01:42.080 even bother believing in the first place? 01:01:42.080 --> 01:01:43.920 Not as a first step. 01:01:43.920 --> 01:01:46.880 But this stuff is getting more and more serious. 01:01:47.040 --> 01:01:50.080 The stuff that's happening in Springfield and everywhere else in this country 01:01:50.240 --> 01:01:51.600 is life and death. 01:01:51.600 --> 01:01:56.080 And is downstream from the episodes we've been doing for two years. 01:01:56.080 --> 01:02:03.440 Everything that we've talked about, nations inheriting faithfulness or faithlessness, 01:02:03.440 --> 01:02:08.720 talking about generational curses, talking about what happens when you worship demons 01:02:08.720 --> 01:02:10.080 for centuries. 01:02:10.240 --> 01:02:12.800 Haiti is exhibit A there. 01:02:12.800 --> 01:02:17.600 Haiti murdered and raped every white person on the island. 01:02:17.600 --> 01:02:23.680 They sacrificed them, they cannibalized them, and they consecrated the nation of 01:02:23.680 --> 01:02:27.760 Haiti to Satan, and they renew that consecration annually. 01:02:27.760 --> 01:02:32.240 Voodoo is the primary religion in Haiti where they claim to be, 01:02:32.240 --> 01:02:35.120 I think, 90 plus percent Roman Catholic. 01:02:35.120 --> 01:02:36.400 They say, Oh, we're Christian. 01:02:36.480 --> 01:02:38.320 It's like, okay, fine, I'll believe you're Christian. 01:02:38.320 --> 01:02:40.080 And then they practice voodoo. 01:02:40.080 --> 01:02:41.760 They practice cannibalism. 01:02:41.760 --> 01:02:44.480 They rape anything that moves. 01:02:44.480 --> 01:02:50.880 They are subhuman in all possible descriptors except for theologically, and that 01:02:50.880 --> 01:02:52.880 is to their eternal damnation. 01:02:52.880 --> 01:02:55.760 I wish for their sake that they were not human, because then 01:02:55.760 --> 01:02:58.560 they wouldn't go to hell for the pact with the devil that 01:02:58.560 --> 01:03:01.520 they carry on every moment that they exist. 01:03:01.520 --> 01:03:04.160 And so if you haven't listened to previous Stone Choir episodes, I 01:03:04.320 --> 01:03:07.040 sound like I'm just completely insane right now. 01:03:07.040 --> 01:03:12.800 But if you understand that worshiping demons for centuries has consequences, if 01:03:12.800 --> 01:03:17.520 you understand that having an IQ of 67 takes takes all possible 01:03:17.520 --> 01:03:19.280 human conduct off the table. 01:03:19.280 --> 01:03:23.440 If you understand that there are certain populations that have an overwhelmingly 01:03:23.440 --> 01:03:27.360 greater degree of propensity for violence, then suddenly it's not quite as 01:03:27.360 --> 01:03:31.120 confusing what's being done to our neighborhoods when these people are imported. 01:03:31.120 --> 01:03:33.600 And the people who are importing them know that. 01:03:33.600 --> 01:03:37.360 They know exactly what they're doing when they bring Africans onto our 01:03:37.360 --> 01:03:40.000 soil. They know that they're bioweapons. 01:03:40.000 --> 01:03:43.200 There's a term that I've used in multiple past episodes, and I'm 01:03:43.200 --> 01:03:44.320 renewing it here. 01:03:44.320 --> 01:03:48.160 To bring an African onto our continent is to deploy a bioweapon 01:03:48.320 --> 01:03:50.000 because they can't help themselves. 01:03:50.000 --> 01:03:54.080 They're gonna do what they are, just as we do what we 01:03:54.080 --> 01:03:56.640 are wherever we go. 01:03:56.640 --> 01:03:59.680 There are certain things that are intrinsic that you can't talk a 01:03:59.680 --> 01:04:01.840 man into or talk him out of. 01:04:01.840 --> 01:04:05.040 And these matters are the very heart of that. 01:04:05.040 --> 01:04:07.040 And so I'm sure that some of what we're saying here today 01:04:07.040 --> 01:04:11.520 is gonna alienate people, but this is in some ways a synthesis 01:04:11.520 --> 01:04:15.680 of almost every previous episode because the rubber is meeting the road 01:04:15.680 --> 01:04:17.680 in real time and current year. 01:04:17.680 --> 01:04:19.360 I don't know what things are gonna look like a year from 01:04:19.360 --> 01:04:23.760 now. But right now, if you're looking at the timeline, you understand 01:04:23.760 --> 01:04:26.960 what's happening if you've been listening, because we've laid it out clearly. 01:04:26.960 --> 01:04:31.440 Before it was an emergency, we've explained why these things are happening 01:04:31.600 --> 01:04:36.160 and what's going to happen next when these population groups are thrown 01:04:36.160 --> 01:04:39.840 together. And that's why Jews like Will Spencer fear us so much. 01:04:39.840 --> 01:04:43.200 Because we're telling the truth about the treason and betrayal that is 01:04:43.200 --> 01:04:46.640 being enacted on our soil that's going to destroy everything. 01:04:46.640 --> 01:04:48.160 It's going to destroy church. 01:04:48.160 --> 01:04:49.680 It's going to destroy neighborhood. 01:04:49.680 --> 01:04:52.400 It's going to destroy the entire country. 01:04:52.400 --> 01:04:53.840 That's big ticket. 01:04:53.840 --> 01:04:56.560 It doesn't get more important than that. 01:04:56.560 --> 01:04:59.280 And some people think, oh, that that doesn't sound like the gospel. 01:04:59.280 --> 01:05:04.560 As Corey said, it's not the gospel, except that it's true. 01:05:04.560 --> 01:05:09.040 Whether or not something is the narrow John 316 gospel is not 01:05:09.040 --> 01:05:11.760 the be-all and end all what Christians can say. 01:05:12.000 --> 01:05:14.960 Christians have an obligation to tell the truth in every time and 01:05:14.960 --> 01:05:15.840 every place. 01:05:15.840 --> 01:05:17.600 Even when it makes people angry. 01:05:17.600 --> 01:05:19.200 Especially when it makes people angry. 01:05:19.200 --> 01:05:23.520 Because if you're angry at the truth, something serious is going on. 01:05:24.720 --> 01:05:29.680 One of the best ways to assess whether or not a worldview 01:05:29.760 --> 01:05:33.920 in particular I'll decline to use the German this time, but whether 01:05:33.920 --> 01:05:38.640 or not a worldview or a particular theory of how things work 01:05:38.800 --> 01:05:44.000 is is correct is its explanatory power. 01:05:44.000 --> 01:05:47.680 If you look at a way of explaining something 01:05:48.640 --> 01:05:53.200 and it doesn't explain it, it's wrong, obviously. 01:05:53.200 --> 01:05:58.320 If you have a theory that says if X, then Y, and 01:05:58.320 --> 01:06:03.280 you find X, but you don't find Y, this is very basic 01:06:03.280 --> 01:06:07.360 logic. This is the first class you take in a logic course. 01:06:07.360 --> 01:06:09.760 Your theory is wrong. 01:06:09.760 --> 01:06:12.640 Because you just proved it wrong. 01:06:12.640 --> 01:06:15.520 When it comes to the world, when it comes to the current 01:06:15.520 --> 01:06:18.080 state of the world and The world in particular, there are a 01:06:18.080 --> 01:06:22.960 number of competing theories about why things are the way they are, 01:06:22.960 --> 01:06:26.320 why things are going the way they're going. 01:06:26.320 --> 01:06:30.480 If you buy into any of the alternative theories to what we 01:06:30.480 --> 01:06:35.760 have been saying through all of these episodes, you will find they 01:06:35.760 --> 01:06:40.320 do not explain the current state of the world. 01:06:40.320 --> 01:06:46.160 If you use the theories that came out of the enlightenment, if 01:06:46.160 --> 01:06:51.440 you double down on equality, on egalitarianism, on fraternity as they use 01:06:51.440 --> 01:06:56.720 it, not as it should be used, etcetera, all these various things. 01:06:56.720 --> 01:07:01.360 And then you look at the state of the world, you realize 01:07:01.360 --> 01:07:05.360 that those theories don't actually explain anything. 01:07:05.360 --> 01:07:09.360 Because if the French Revolution and the things that it claimed were 01:07:09.360 --> 01:07:14.640 good, then the current state of France would not be the current 01:07:14.640 --> 01:07:16.400 state of France. 01:07:16.400 --> 01:07:20.880 And for those who have not been, it's even worse than you 01:07:20.880 --> 01:07:22.960 see online. 01:07:22.960 --> 01:07:27.120 Paris, for instance, is no longer French. 01:07:27.120 --> 01:07:33.920 And unlike some nations, Germany in particular, the capital city in France 01:07:34.240 --> 01:07:37.280 is a huge part of France. 01:07:37.520 --> 01:07:40.640 Americans won't really think that because Washington, D.C. 01:07:40.800 --> 01:07:45.120 is not that big of a city in terms of population, in 01:07:45.120 --> 01:07:49.200 terms of city size, and even in terms of cultural influence in 01:07:49.200 --> 01:07:54.560 the US, with regard to France, Paris is number one, period, on 01:07:54.560 --> 01:07:58.480 every metric, and it's no longer French. 01:07:58.480 --> 01:08:04.160 That is the outcome of what they advocate, but their worldview cannot 01:08:04.160 --> 01:08:07.600 explain why the outcome is so bad. 01:08:07.600 --> 01:08:12.480 The things that we have said, if you believe them, and if 01:08:12.480 --> 01:08:15.360 you look at the current state of the world, and if you 01:08:15.360 --> 01:08:19.280 trace back, you will find that what we have said in these 01:08:19.280 --> 01:08:25.920 various episodes across a number of years now have essentially perfect explanatory 01:08:25.920 --> 01:08:30.800 power. If you believe there are racial differences between and among the 01:08:30.800 --> 01:08:35.200 different groups of men, then you understand why you can't just mix 01:08:35.200 --> 01:08:39.440 them at will and have equivalent outcomes. 01:08:39.440 --> 01:08:43.280 You can't take the population of Germany and swap it with the 01:08:43.280 --> 01:08:48.240 population of Somalia and wind up with a space program. 01:08:48.240 --> 01:08:50.320 That's not how this works. 01:08:50.320 --> 01:08:54.560 Because race is real, because there are biological realities. 01:08:54.560 --> 01:09:00.160 Because IQ, because intelligence is heritable, as are disposition and any number 01:09:00.160 --> 01:09:01.600 of other traits. 01:09:01.600 --> 01:09:05.040 And so if you're not a race realist, none of what is 01:09:05.040 --> 01:09:08.480 happening in the world is going to make sense to you. 01:09:08.480 --> 01:09:11.760 If you aren't a Christian, very little is going to make sense 01:09:11.760 --> 01:09:15.200 to you, but not just a Christian, a Christian who actually believes 01:09:15.200 --> 01:09:19.280 the things that God has written to us in his word. 01:09:19.280 --> 01:09:24.720 Because for instance, if you deny that there are generational curses, it's 01:09:24.720 --> 01:09:29.600 going to make very little sense why some countries are such disasters, 01:09:29.600 --> 01:09:32.640 because yes, you can explain a lot of it with intelligence and 01:09:32.640 --> 01:09:37.520 various things like that, but they're even worse than those things should 01:09:37.520 --> 01:09:43.360 predict. The state of those countries cannot be explained by resort to 01:09:43.680 --> 01:09:48.560 intelligence alone, by resort to their defective cultures alone. 01:09:48.720 --> 01:09:50.400 Of course, how do you explain culture? 01:09:50.400 --> 01:09:55.360 This is sort of an aside or a tangent, but you'll have 01:09:55.360 --> 01:09:58.160 those who argue, this is very common to hear these days, oh, 01:09:58.160 --> 01:10:00.320 it's just cultural. 01:10:00.320 --> 01:10:01.680 The problems are cultural. 01:10:01.680 --> 01:10:06.160 If you just fix the culture the what produces culture? 01:10:06.160 --> 01:10:10.240 Not one of those men can ever explain to you the What 01:10:10.240 --> 01:10:12.560 is the source of the culture? 01:10:12.560 --> 01:10:14.800 Culture is downstream from race. 01:10:14.800 --> 01:10:18.320 Culture doesn't just fall out of the sky. 01:10:18.320 --> 01:10:22.160 If you trace this back, where are they saying the culture started? 01:10:22.160 --> 01:10:23.520 Where did it originate? 01:10:23.760 --> 01:10:25.760 Whence did this come? 01:10:25.760 --> 01:10:29.520 There has to be something that creates the culture, and what creates 01:10:29.520 --> 01:10:33.680 the culture is the people, is the race, is the nation. 01:10:33.680 --> 01:10:36.320 Culture is a product of the nation, the nation is not a 01:10:36.320 --> 01:10:38.640 product of the culture The culture. 01:10:38.640 --> 01:10:43.680 If you take Germans and take them from Germany and drop them 01:10:44.000 --> 01:10:48.640 into Africa, you'll wind up with German culture with some allowances for 01:10:48.640 --> 01:10:53.120 temperature. Because obviously clothing and some things like that will have to 01:10:53.120 --> 01:10:57.600 change, but the core of the culture will be German. 01:10:57.600 --> 01:11:02.720 We know that's the case, because we did that with Germanic peoples 01:11:02.720 --> 01:11:04.560 in South Africa. 01:11:04.640 --> 01:11:09.280 They didn't produce an African culture, they produced a European culture, a 01:11:09.280 --> 01:11:11.520 Germanic culture. 01:11:11.520 --> 01:11:16.640 We took people from various parts of Western Europe and dropped them 01:11:16.640 --> 01:11:18.000 into North America. 01:11:18.000 --> 01:11:19.920 And what did we wind up with? 01:11:19.920 --> 01:11:23.120 Well, we wound up with an Anglo Saxon culture. 01:11:23.120 --> 01:11:26.480 Because culture is downstream from race. 01:11:26.480 --> 01:11:30.240 If you don't believe that, you will not be able to understand 01:11:30.240 --> 01:11:32.240 what is happening in the world. 01:11:32.240 --> 01:11:36.800 And if you don't believe that communion with demons has very real 01:11:36.800 --> 01:11:42.800 consequences, and not just for the person doing it, but generational consequences, 01:11:42.800 --> 01:11:48.560 then you can't explain the incredible wickedness of most of the world. 01:11:48.560 --> 01:11:51.920 In fact, you will be unable to believe that sort of wickedness, 01:11:51.920 --> 01:11:55.440 which is the case with many supposed Christians today. 01:11:55.440 --> 01:12:01.840 They cannot even comprehend how wicked Haiti is, how wicked Haitians are, 01:12:01.840 --> 01:12:04.640 because they do not believe in the demonic. 01:12:04.640 --> 01:12:06.320 They do not believe the word of God. 01:12:06.320 --> 01:12:10.080 They do not believe there are curses and there are long-term consequences 01:12:10.560 --> 01:12:14.560 for communion with demons and rejection of God. 01:12:14.560 --> 01:12:18.320 If they believed that, they would be able to believe the current 01:12:18.320 --> 01:12:21.840 state of the countries that have engaged in that, the populations that 01:12:21.840 --> 01:12:24.480 have done that over many generations. 01:12:24.480 --> 01:12:28.800 And these are not things that are fixable, which is another major 01:12:28.800 --> 01:12:30.000 part of this. 01:12:30.000 --> 01:12:35.760 Because most Americans and in fact most Western Americans have been propagandized 01:12:35.760 --> 01:12:39.200 to believe that everything can be fixed. 01:12:39.200 --> 01:12:40.960 There's always a fix. 01:12:40.960 --> 01:12:45.120 This is particularly Americans, it's not as much Western Europeans, but it's 01:12:45.120 --> 01:12:48.720 both. It's crept into their cultures as well. 01:12:48.720 --> 01:12:51.760 Because we all want to believe, or at least our society wants 01:12:51.760 --> 01:12:55.440 us to believe, that if we just dump enough resources into something, 01:12:55.440 --> 01:12:59.440 that if we just try hard enough, we'll fix these problems. 01:13:00.080 --> 01:13:03.920 This This feeds into many other areas, because for instance, this is 01:13:03.920 --> 01:13:06.640 why you have mistaken beliefs about intelligence. 01:13:06.640 --> 01:13:09.840 You'll have those who believe, well, if someone of average intelligence just 01:13:09.840 --> 01:13:14.320 applies himself really, really hard for twenty years, he'll be No. 01:13:14.640 --> 01:13:17.040 He will never be able to match what a genius can do 01:13:17.040 --> 01:13:18.160 in a week. 01:13:18.160 --> 01:13:22.960 Because there is a fundamental difference between the two. 01:13:22.960 --> 01:13:25.680 Every single man listening knows that. 01:13:25.680 --> 01:13:28.960 And the reason he knows that is because it is directly comparable 01:13:29.520 --> 01:13:32.880 to machinery, and we can all relate to that. 01:13:32.880 --> 01:13:36.000 For the women perhaps a different example than machinery, but the men 01:13:36.000 --> 01:13:39.280 will immediately understand an example using machines. 01:13:39.280 --> 01:13:44.960 If you have an earth mover weighing some number of tons some 01:13:44.960 --> 01:13:48.640 large number of tons it is going to be able to do 01:13:48.880 --> 01:13:52.480 in an hour something that a man with a shovel could not 01:13:52.480 --> 01:13:54.080 do in a year. 01:13:54.080 --> 01:13:57.920 Or more, if you have one of the particularly large Earth movers. 01:13:57.920 --> 01:14:02.480 It doesn't matter how much effort the one puts in, the other 01:14:02.480 --> 01:14:04.880 will always be able to outclass it. 01:14:04.960 --> 01:14:06.800 And that's only a difference in degree. 01:14:06.800 --> 01:14:10.400 We're speaking about a difference in kind here with regard to some 01:14:10.400 --> 01:14:12.400 of these things. 01:14:12.400 --> 01:14:16.480 And so as far as explanatory power goes, if you don't have 01:14:17.200 --> 01:14:22.880 an actually accurate worldview, it will have no explanatory power. 01:14:22.880 --> 01:14:27.200 That is exactly what we see from all of the competing worldviews. 01:14:27.200 --> 01:14:31.440 They all advocate things that are contrary to reality, and so they 01:14:31.440 --> 01:14:34.960 cannot explain the current state of the world. 01:14:34.960 --> 01:14:38.480 That's how you end up with people saying that men can be 01:14:38.480 --> 01:14:41.840 women, or that a black can be American. 01:14:41.920 --> 01:14:46.080 And I know that that particular phrase sets people's hair on fire, 01:14:46.080 --> 01:14:48.800 but it's a simple statement of fact. 01:14:48.800 --> 01:14:52.480 Because the term American, and this is something that we have been 01:14:52.480 --> 01:14:57.600 propagandized out of believing, but the term American is a racial term. 01:14:57.600 --> 01:15:00.720 It is as ridiculous to say that an African can be a 01:15:00.720 --> 01:15:04.240 German, or an African can be a Frenchman, or an African can 01:15:04.240 --> 01:15:07.600 be Irish, as it is to say that an African can be 01:15:07.600 --> 01:15:11.920 American. The term African American is complete nonsense. 01:15:11.920 --> 01:15:15.280 Yes, we've used it before because it's a particular way of describing 01:15:15.280 --> 01:15:18.640 a group that is here, but they're not American. 01:15:18.640 --> 01:15:22.240 The same as I can never be Chinese, I can never be 01:15:22.240 --> 01:15:26.480 Japanese, I can never be Canadian, I could never be Somalian, or 01:15:26.480 --> 01:15:32.960 any of some hundred plus other ethnicities, some hundred plus other races, 01:15:32.960 --> 01:15:36.800 I cannot be those because I am not those and no God 01:15:36.800 --> 01:15:38.800 could not have made me that either. 01:15:38.800 --> 01:15:41.680 Because you are essentially what you are. 01:15:41.680 --> 01:15:44.000 If you are German, you are German. 01:15:44.000 --> 01:15:46.320 If you are French, you are French. 01:15:46.320 --> 01:15:49.280 A piece of paper is not what made you that, it is 01:15:49.280 --> 01:15:51.360 your blood that made you that. 01:15:51.360 --> 01:15:54.720 And that is something we used to recognize in our laws, because 01:15:54.720 --> 01:15:57.840 it used to be us sanguinis, which is say the law of 01:15:57.840 --> 01:16:01.520 blood. You were what you were because you were born to certain 01:16:01.520 --> 01:16:05.840 parents. Not because you were born on a particular piece of soil. 01:16:05.840 --> 01:16:10.000 Now those used to coincide, because you used to have a nation 01:16:10.160 --> 01:16:13.040 and the soil, and they're one and the same, blood and soil 01:16:13.280 --> 01:16:20.080 We no longer have that, because we have multi ethnic, multicultural abominations. 01:16:20.080 --> 01:16:23.680 If you look for those in Scripture, you'll find them. 01:16:23.680 --> 01:16:27.600 They are usually the result of being cursed by God. 01:16:27.760 --> 01:16:31.520 God brings in foreigners to destroy nations. 01:16:31.520 --> 01:16:34.640 He doesn't bring in foreigners to benefit them. 01:16:34.640 --> 01:16:38.640 Diversity is not your strength, diversity is your curse from God. 01:16:38.640 --> 01:16:42.800 God. This is another thing where if your worldview does not encompass 01:16:42.800 --> 01:16:47.360 that, you will never understand why things are the way they are. 01:16:47.360 --> 01:16:51.200 And as a Christian, you will miss the fact that God is 01:16:51.200 --> 01:16:53.040 telling you to amend your ways. 01:16:54.000 --> 01:16:57.280 As a nation, we need to repent. 01:16:57.280 --> 01:17:00.240 We can look at the world, we can look at the current 01:17:00.240 --> 01:17:04.720 state of our country, and recognize we are under a curse from 01:17:04.720 --> 01:17:08.160 God. The entire Western world is under a curse from God, not 01:17:08.160 --> 01:17:09.120 just the Western world. 01:17:09.120 --> 01:17:12.080 There are plenty of other parts of the world with so called 01:17:12.080 --> 01:17:16.800 immigration problems, but in particular the Western world, we are under God's 01:17:16.800 --> 01:17:18.000 curse because we have turned away from 01:17:18.880 --> 01:17:23.520 him. And part of that curse is to have foreigners rise higher 01:17:23.520 --> 01:17:28.000 and higher in your lands while you sink lower and lower. 01:17:28.000 --> 01:17:31.840 And if you think that I am misstating Scripture, that was a 01:17:31.840 --> 01:17:37.520 quote. This is the reality of what Scripture teaches, and a correct 01:17:37.520 --> 01:17:42.400 worldview will give you the explanatory power to understand why things are 01:17:42.400 --> 01:17:46.000 the way they are and what you should do, not just as 01:17:46.000 --> 01:17:48.400 a man but as a Christian. 01:17:48.400 --> 01:17:51.360 Because Scripture is not silent on these issues. 01:17:51.360 --> 01:17:53.760 We have addressed this in many previous episodes. 01:17:53.760 --> 01:17:56.320 Scripture speaks directly to many of these things 01:17:57.200 --> 01:18:00.720 Wisdom also speaks to them because of course, as I have mentioned 01:18:00.720 --> 01:18:03.840 many times before, God did not write one book. 01:18:03.840 --> 01:18:05.200 He wrote two books. 01:18:05.200 --> 01:18:07.200 The second is nature. 01:18:07.200 --> 01:18:09.760 God spoke nature into existence. 01:18:09.760 --> 01:18:12.960 It is his second book, or it's his first book, depending on 01:18:12.960 --> 01:18:14.800 how you want to look at the two. 01:18:14.800 --> 01:18:18.640 As we have mentioned before, when God speaks of his own glory, 01:18:18.640 --> 01:18:20.880 he does not appeal to his word. 01:18:21.120 --> 01:18:25.440 appeals to creation So perhaps nature is his first book. 01:18:25.440 --> 01:18:27.840 It is the one on which he seems to lay the greater 01:18:27.840 --> 01:18:32.240 importance, and I think we should take God's assessment seriously. 01:18:32.240 --> 01:18:38.160 He points to the grandness, the awesomeness of creation, in order to 01:18:38.160 --> 01:18:41.680 prove to Job his glory, and in order to prove to Job 01:18:41.680 --> 01:18:44.160 his smallness. 01:18:44.160 --> 01:18:47.280 That is what God does in the pages of Scripture. 01:18:47.280 --> 01:18:51.520 And so there is truth in nature, there is truth in God's 01:18:51.520 --> 01:18:54.400 first book, as well as his second book. 01:18:54.400 --> 01:18:58.400 Yes, we will never deny that Scripture, the written word of God, 01:18:58.400 --> 01:19:03.760 the Bible, is absolutely essential, because in it is contained the gospel. 01:19:03.760 --> 01:19:06.720 The gospel is not contained in nature. 01:19:06.720 --> 01:19:08.480 And so you must have scripture. 01:19:08.480 --> 01:19:10.880 It is absolutely essential for Christians. 01:19:10.880 --> 01:19:13.440 But you cannot ignore reality. 01:19:13.440 --> 01:19:16.080 You cannot ignore nature. 01:19:16.480 --> 01:19:19.840 Grace does not destroy nature. 01:19:19.840 --> 01:19:22.720 It also doesn't restore nature. 01:19:22.720 --> 01:19:25.200 We know this, we all know this. 01:19:25.200 --> 01:19:28.480 When you become a Christian, if you have missing limbs or missing 01:19:28.480 --> 01:19:31.920 organs, they don't regrow. 01:19:31.920 --> 01:19:35.440 God will return those to you in a perfected form in the 01:19:35.440 --> 01:19:39.520 next life, but in this life, the consequences of sin and whether 01:19:39.520 --> 01:19:43.920 it is personal sin or hereditary sin, doesn't matter. 01:19:43.920 --> 01:19:46.400 Both of those have consequences. 01:19:46.400 --> 01:19:50.400 The reason we grow ill, the reason we grow old, and the 01:19:50.400 --> 01:19:53.120 reason we die is sin. 01:19:53.120 --> 01:19:57.120 Not just our personal sin, but the sin that we have inherited 01:19:57.120 --> 01:20:01.440 from our forefathers, the sin that we inherit from Adam, original sin 01:20:01.440 --> 01:20:04.400 is the reason we die. 01:20:04.400 --> 01:20:09.120 All of these things have to be incorporated into your worldview, or 01:20:09.120 --> 01:20:11.600 nothing is going to make sense. 01:20:11.600 --> 01:20:16.880 And that explanatory power is the number one way that you can 01:20:16.880 --> 01:20:20.240 test any theory or any world view. 01:20:20.240 --> 01:20:25.440 Because necessarily that which is correct will be able to explain why 01:20:25.440 --> 01:20:29.040 things are the way they are and also predict things that are 01:20:29.040 --> 01:20:32.080 coming. That's a key feature. 01:20:32.800 --> 01:20:36.800 One of the ways that Scripture, in fact the way that Scripture 01:20:36.800 --> 01:20:41.440 says to test the spirits, to test prophets, to test if someone 01:20:41.440 --> 01:20:45.280 is speaking a word from God, is whether or not the things 01:20:45.280 --> 01:20:48.880 that He says come true, because not a single word from God 01:20:48.880 --> 01:20:52.560 will fall to the ground, all of it will come true. 01:20:52.560 --> 01:20:57.120 For a worldview, if it is correct, if it is accurate, it 01:20:57.120 --> 01:21:00.800 will be able to predict things in a way that a false 01:21:00.800 --> 01:21:04.000 worldview will not be able to do. 01:21:04.000 --> 01:21:08.960 But to return to the issue of our present society of civilization 01:21:09.360 --> 01:21:13.440 and loyalty and honor. 01:21:13.440 --> 01:21:16.800 If you do not have a society, if you do not have 01:21:16.800 --> 01:21:21.520 a civilization that functions on the basis of loyalty and honor, then 01:21:21.520 --> 01:21:26.560 you are going to be reduced to the civil law. 01:21:26.560 --> 01:21:28.000 That's it. 01:21:28.000 --> 01:21:32.640 You are going to be reduced to the threat of being fined 01:21:32.640 --> 01:21:33.920 or imprisoned. 01:21:33.920 --> 01:21:35.760 That's not a civilization. 01:21:35.760 --> 01:21:37.920 That's basically a prison. 01:21:38.240 --> 01:21:41.840 That is not the way that Christians should comport themselves, and that 01:21:41.840 --> 01:21:44.240 is not the sort of society in which we should want to 01:21:44.240 --> 01:21:48.000 live and which we should leave to future generations. 01:21:48.000 --> 01:21:51.840 But that is where we stand today, because honor and loyalty have 01:21:51.840 --> 01:21:55.360 fallen by the wayside, and now it is essentially just whether or 01:21:55.360 --> 01:21:58.000 not you will get caught, and if you get caught, how bad 01:21:58.000 --> 01:21:59.360 the punishment will be. 01:21:59.360 --> 01:22:03.680 Again, this is something that our economic system encourages, and it has 01:22:03.680 --> 01:22:06.720 bled into our social systems as well. 01:22:06.720 --> 01:22:10.720 In fact, we see this with regard to personal behavior with regard 01:22:10.720 --> 01:22:12.400 to sexual ethics. 01:22:12.400 --> 01:22:16.880 Because many times, the primary concern for many men these days, and 01:22:16.880 --> 01:22:19.680 by this I mean both men and women, I mean the general 01:22:19.680 --> 01:22:23.120 sense, is whether or not they will be caught not whether or 01:22:23.120 --> 01:22:26.480 not it's wrong, but whether or not any one will be able 01:22:26.480 --> 01:22:28.640 to find out their sin. 01:22:28.640 --> 01:22:33.920 And that is absolutely not how Christians particularly, but how any man 01:22:33.920 --> 01:22:38.000 or woman should comport himself or herself. 01:22:38.000 --> 01:22:41.520 And just to expand on what was said earlier about adultery, for 01:22:41.520 --> 01:22:45.200 those who think that oh we couldn't possibly criminalize it, I'll give 01:22:45.200 --> 01:22:48.320 you a list of just a handful of countries and when they 01:22:48.320 --> 01:22:50.880 decriminalized adultery. 01:22:50.880 --> 01:22:54.800 Italy decriminalized adultery in nineteen sixty nine. 01:22:54.800 --> 01:22:59.360 West Germany decriminalized adultery in nineteen sixty nine. 01:22:59.360 --> 01:23:03.680 Malta decriminalized adultery in nineteen seventy three. 01:23:04.800 --> 01:23:12.080 nineteen seventy four, France nineteen seventy five, Spain, nineteen seventy eight, Portugal, 01:23:12.080 --> 01:23:17.920 nineteen eighty two, Greece nineteen eighty three, Belgium nineteen eighty seven, Switzerland 01:23:18.000 --> 01:23:23.280 nineteen eighty nine, and Austria nineteen ninety ninety seven. 01:23:23.280 --> 01:23:29.120 It is only relatively recently, and starting in the cursed decade that 01:23:29.120 --> 01:23:34.480 is the 60s, that these things have been decriminalized, that we have 01:23:34.480 --> 01:23:39.360 started to uncouple our positive law, our civil laws, from the moral 01:23:39.360 --> 01:23:46.080 law. Because in part this was bringing in the accursed consent framework 01:23:46.080 --> 01:23:49.440 for dealing with these matters, but that's a tangential issue for another 01:23:49.440 --> 01:23:54.960 day. But as soon as we unseat our positive law from the 01:23:54.960 --> 01:23:59.600 moral law, we can no longer truly call ourselves certainly Christian, but 01:23:59.600 --> 01:24:03.600 we also cannot call ourselves moral, and it is only a matter 01:24:03.600 --> 01:24:08.640 of time before this sort of pervasive wickedness catches up with us. 01:24:08.640 --> 01:24:13.920 Because just as there are longitudinal and generational consequences of communion with 01:24:13.920 --> 01:24:20.160 demons, which we see throughout much of the world, particularly in Africa, 01:24:20.160 --> 01:24:23.600 and in the inner part of Australia certainly. 01:24:23.600 --> 01:24:27.840 But just as there are consequences for that communion with demons, there 01:24:27.840 --> 01:24:33.280 are consequences when you uncouple your laws from the moral law, when 01:24:33.280 --> 01:24:38.320 you base your law on anything other than God's eternal unchanging nature. 01:24:38.400 --> 01:24:43.440 And as Christians, we should absolutely advocate that all of our laws 01:24:43.440 --> 01:24:45.680 be based on the moral law. 01:24:45.680 --> 01:24:49.840 We shouldn't have carve-outs or exceptions where we've decided that as a 01:24:49.840 --> 01:24:53.600 culture we're just going to tolerate this sin, or we're just going 01:24:53.600 --> 01:24:56.640 to say that this isn't so bad, we'll permit it. 01:24:56.640 --> 01:25:00.400 We'll allow people to act contrary to God's law in this place 01:25:00.640 --> 01:25:04.400 because it's convenient or it's profitable. 01:25:04.400 --> 01:25:10.000 Christians cannot make exceptions for these things. 01:25:10.000 --> 01:25:14.160 Now we have to be careful with what I just said. 01:25:14.160 --> 01:25:17.920 I am not saying, for instance, that we cannot support any political 01:25:17.920 --> 01:25:22.320 candidate who does not have a perfect track record, who does not 01:25:22.320 --> 01:25:27.440 have perfect Christian positions on every issue, because politics is not a 01:25:27.440 --> 01:25:29.360 matter of perfection. 01:25:29.360 --> 01:25:32.720 Politics is a matter of the possible, and this is something that 01:25:32.720 --> 01:25:39.120 is difficult for a particular kind of Christian to recognize, particularly Anabaptists. 01:25:39.120 --> 01:25:42.800 But politics being the art of the possible, you have to do 01:25:42.800 --> 01:25:45.760 that which is best at a given time. 01:25:45.760 --> 01:25:49.200 And what is best is going to be what moves the ball 01:25:49.200 --> 01:25:51.280 in the direction of the good. 01:25:51.280 --> 01:25:54.160 It's not always going to be perfect. 01:25:54.160 --> 01:25:59.760 You may go down the field diagonally instead of straight, say. 01:25:59.760 --> 01:26:00.960 That's fine. 01:26:00.960 --> 01:26:03.840 You're picking up yards, you're making progress. 01:26:03.840 --> 01:26:06.480 That is the goal in politics. 01:26:06.480 --> 01:26:10.160 The goal is to be moving in the right direction direction, and 01:26:10.320 --> 01:26:13.760 the man who can move the ball in the right direction is 01:26:13.760 --> 01:26:16.960 the man you need at that time. 01:26:16.960 --> 01:26:19.760 The man who can move the ball is the one who can 01:26:19.760 --> 01:26:22.240 get the ball, which is to say he is the one who 01:26:22.240 --> 01:26:23.520 can win? 01:26:23.520 --> 01:26:27.440 Because a man who is perfect on all of these issues, but 01:26:27.440 --> 01:26:31.600 cannot possibly win is not better than the man who is flawed 01:26:31.760 --> 01:26:34.640 but will move the ball in the direction we need it to 01:26:34.640 --> 01:26:39.120 go. And so for Christians, when it comes to politics, we have 01:26:39.120 --> 01:26:42.160 to recognize it is a matter of wisdom. 01:26:42.160 --> 01:26:45.760 It is not a matter of going down a list and checking 01:26:45.760 --> 01:26:48.960 a whole bunch of boxes, some hundreds of boxes on, well, is 01:26:48.960 --> 01:26:51.440 he right on this moral issue and this moral issue? 01:26:51.440 --> 01:26:56.960 No, the question is is he better than the alternative? 01:26:56.960 --> 01:27:00.960 That seems like a horrible question to ask for certain Christians, but 01:27:00.960 --> 01:27:05.840 that is the reality of politics and dealing in fantasy instead of 01:27:05.840 --> 01:27:08.800 reality is itself wickedness. 01:27:08.800 --> 01:27:14.560 Because what you are actually doing is supporting the worse outcome. 01:27:14.560 --> 01:27:19.760 You have to support what is possible, what is better, not what 01:27:19.760 --> 01:27:20.880 is perfect. 01:27:20.880 --> 01:27:24.720 That is simply the reality of politics, and it is going to 01:27:24.720 --> 01:27:28.800 be the reality going forward for the foreseeable future and probably so 01:27:28.800 --> 01:27:31.200 long as life continues on this planet. 01:27:31.280 --> 01:27:33.360 We live in a fallen world. 01:27:33.360 --> 01:27:37.360 We are not dealing in absolutes. 01:27:37.360 --> 01:27:40.080 We are in the sense that as Christians we have to believe 01:27:40.080 --> 01:27:42.080 that which is true. 01:27:42.080 --> 01:27:46.800 But when it comes to translating those things into the political realm, 01:27:46.800 --> 01:27:48.640 things are messy. 01:27:48.640 --> 01:27:52.880 Undoubtedly messy when dealing with millions or tens of millions or hundreds 01:27:52.880 --> 01:27:55.760 of millions of people. 01:27:55.760 --> 01:28:01.120 We have to make wisdom calls when it comes to politics, because 01:28:01.120 --> 01:28:06.000 the goal is simply for each day to be an improvement on 01:28:06.000 --> 01:28:06.800 the last. 01:28:06.800 --> 01:28:10.640 If we are making progress, that is good. 01:28:10.640 --> 01:28:13.520 If we can make faster progress, great. 01:28:13.520 --> 01:28:18.240 But if we're making progress, that ultimately is the goal, because the 01:28:18.240 --> 01:28:20.800 alternative is to be going in the other direction. 01:28:20.800 --> 01:28:23.200 This is similar to what we have said a number of times 01:28:23.200 --> 01:28:25.200 about the Christian life. 01:28:25.200 --> 01:28:30.000 The life of every man is always moving godward or hellward. 01:28:30.000 --> 01:28:33.840 Similarly, politics is always moving in the right direction or the wrong 01:28:33.840 --> 01:28:39.040 direction, which again is just godward or hellward. 01:28:39.040 --> 01:28:42.720 And some Christians think that oh politics doesn't matter. 01:28:42.720 --> 01:28:45.600 That's they won't call it the left hand kingdom because then they'd 01:28:45.600 --> 01:28:48.560 have to recognize that they are the two hands of Christ and 01:28:48.560 --> 01:28:51.440 that he has control of both. 01:28:51.440 --> 01:28:53.120 But they'll say, Oh, it's politics. 01:28:53.120 --> 01:28:54.000 It's not the gospel. 01:28:54.000 --> 01:28:54.880 It's not a gospel issue. 01:28:54.880 --> 01:28:55.520 We can ignore that. 01:28:55.520 --> 01:28:58.400 It's not the church. 01:28:59.120 --> 01:29:04.400 That is so fundamentally foolish that it would be difficult to overstate. 01:29:04.400 --> 01:29:08.160 Whether or not a country is Christian, whether or not a country 01:29:08.160 --> 01:29:13.040 is ruled in an orderly and proper fashion, whether or not we 01:29:13.040 --> 01:29:17.520 live in peaceful and organized times or we live in chaos, all 01:29:17.520 --> 01:29:22.640 of these things contribute to whether or not we persevere. 01:29:22.640 --> 01:29:26.880 If you live a life, surrounded by other Christians, who help you 01:29:26.880 --> 01:29:30.240 in your walk, who help teach you the faith, who help keep 01:29:30.240 --> 01:29:33.200 you steadfast, who pick you up when you fall. 01:29:33.520 --> 01:29:36.640 are more likely to run the race and persevere than if you 01:29:36.640 --> 01:29:38.080 were going it alone. 01:29:38.080 --> 01:29:40.880 That is the simple fact of the matter. 01:29:40.880 --> 01:29:43.680 And yes, God also says he will not lose anyone from his 01:29:43.840 --> 01:29:45.840 hand. Christ will lose none of his sheep. 01:29:45.840 --> 01:29:48.400 We have to hold these things in tension because that is what 01:29:48.400 --> 01:29:50.480 Scripture teaches. 01:29:50.480 --> 01:29:55.440 So our overall goal should be to construct our societies, to set 01:29:55.440 --> 01:30:00.480 up our civilizations such that we maximize the outcome that more men 01:30:00.480 --> 01:30:04.560 are Christian, that more men persevere, that more men run the race 01:30:05.040 --> 01:30:09.200 successfully. That should be our goal as Christians. 01:30:09.200 --> 01:30:13.280 And part of that is indeed winning in the political sphere. 01:30:13.280 --> 01:30:16.240 It is not simply a matter of right teaching in the church. 01:30:16.960 --> 01:30:20.160 Because if you have right teaching in the church, but you lose 01:30:20.160 --> 01:30:24.320 absolutely every part of the culture, you will lose the church too. 01:30:24.320 --> 01:30:26.720 Because that is exactly what we did in the US. 01:30:26.720 --> 01:30:28.080 That is what we see happening today. 01:30:28.880 --> 01:30:31.600 It's not that the church was subversive. 01:30:31.600 --> 01:30:34.720 It's not that the church failed, although it failed in a certain 01:30:34.720 --> 01:30:39.440 sense. Rather it is that Christian men failed to control the culture. 01:30:39.440 --> 01:30:43.360 We failed to maintain control of the culture, and so after having 01:30:43.360 --> 01:30:47.840 lost the culture, having lost all of the universities, all of the 01:30:47.840 --> 01:30:54.640 various cultural institutions, having lost politics and everything else, now finally Satan 01:30:54.640 --> 01:30:57.680 is coming for the church, because he's doing it from a position 01:30:57.680 --> 01:30:59.520 of strength. 01:30:59.520 --> 01:31:03.760 If we had not lost those things, if we had not effectively 01:31:03.760 --> 01:31:07.200 abandoned the left hand kingdom, we would not have the problems we 01:31:07.200 --> 01:31:10.160 have today in the right hand kingdom. 01:31:10.160 --> 01:31:15.360 We are having to fight on two fronts because our forefathers completely 01:31:15.360 --> 01:31:19.040 and utterly failed to defend the left hand kingdom. 01:31:19.040 --> 01:31:22.160 And so as Christians, we don't have that option. 01:31:22.160 --> 01:31:25.360 We have to fight for both at the same time.