WEBVTT 00:00:37.040 --> 00:00:39.520 Welcome to the Stone Choir Podcast. 00:00:39.520 --> 00:00:40.320 I am Corey J. 00:00:40.720 --> 00:00:42.400 Mahler. And I'm still 00:00:42.560 --> 00:00:48.640 Woe. On today's Stone Choir, we're going to be discussing jealousy. 00:00:48.640 --> 00:00:51.760 Before we get into the meat of the episode, uh just a 00:00:51.760 --> 00:00:53.840 couple brief minutes of housekeeping first. 00:00:53.840 --> 00:00:57.200 I've I apologize that we didn't have an episode last week. 00:00:57.200 --> 00:01:01.680 We had originally planned last week to do an episode on inheritance. 00:01:01.680 --> 00:01:04.560 And towards the end of preparing for that, as I was thinking 00:01:04.560 --> 00:01:09.440 of my remarks to introduce one of the things necessary for inheritance, 00:01:09.440 --> 00:01:11.120 which was jealousy. 00:01:11.520 --> 00:01:15.120 my first fifteen minute preamble got to be thirty and thirty-five and 00:01:15.120 --> 00:01:17.680 forty minutes and I start talking to Corey about it and we 00:01:17.680 --> 00:01:22.000 realized there's an entire episode there just about jealousy, and it's actually 00:01:22.000 --> 00:01:24.480 really important to do it before the inheritance one. 00:01:24.480 --> 00:01:27.440 So we try to get an episode out every week, but at 00:01:27.440 --> 00:01:30.960 the same time, when we lay down an episode, we're putting something 00:01:30.960 --> 00:01:32.000 in a library. 00:01:32.000 --> 00:01:35.840 That's really how we see it because it's how almost everyone ends 00:01:35.840 --> 00:01:37.600 up listening to our episodes. 00:01:37.600 --> 00:01:41.840 We love the people who listening live, but most of the people 00:01:41.840 --> 00:01:45.120 who listen to this episode won't be listening to it the day 00:01:45.120 --> 00:01:45.840 after we record it. 00:01:45.840 --> 00:01:48.080 They'll be listening to it months or years later. 00:01:48.080 --> 00:01:51.920 So as a result, it's more important for us to have each 00:01:51.920 --> 00:01:56.080 episode be deserving of being in that library than hitting an arbitrary 00:01:56.080 --> 00:01:59.120 schedule. So I apologize for the recent unreliability. 00:01:59.120 --> 00:02:03.280 It's not us being flaky, it's just that sometimes doing it right 00:02:03.280 --> 00:02:04.640 means putting it off a little bit. 00:02:04.640 --> 00:02:08.720 So this week is jealousy, and next week will be about inheritance. 00:02:08.720 --> 00:02:12.640 Second brief housekeeping item, the challenge coins. 00:02:12.640 --> 00:02:15.520 We mentioned those a few weeks ago and then haven't said anything. 00:02:15.520 --> 00:02:18.320 Haven't said anything, A because there's no news and B because I 00:02:18.320 --> 00:02:22.560 don't want to clutter up these library episodes with kind of housekeeping 00:02:22.560 --> 00:02:24.320 things that aren't relevant. 00:02:24.560 --> 00:02:26.480 Sorry that we don't have any new news. 00:02:26.480 --> 00:02:30.160 Corey is waiting for the proof to come back because we're doing 00:02:30.320 --> 00:02:32.320 you know Moai head. 00:02:32.320 --> 00:02:34.320 It's going to have a 3D effect. 00:02:34.720 --> 00:02:36.960 We need to make sure that that actually looks right because you 00:02:36.960 --> 00:02:38.720 can't really photograph it. 00:02:38.720 --> 00:02:41.760 So as soon as that is as soon as he gets approved 00:02:41.840 --> 00:02:44.080 and we have final news, we'll be saying a lot more about 00:02:44.080 --> 00:02:48.160 it. We didn't initially s intend to make the announcement when we 00:02:48.160 --> 00:02:51.600 did. We didn't want to like keep people in limbo, but when 00:02:51.600 --> 00:02:55.120 Corey put up the test site for ordering, people started discovering and 00:02:55.120 --> 00:02:56.560 started ordering and asking questions. 00:02:56.560 --> 00:02:58.960 And so that's the reason that we did it before we were 00:02:58.960 --> 00:03:01.600 really quite completely ready to go. 00:03:01.600 --> 00:03:05.200 So if you've ordered and you're wondering for news, I apologize for 00:03:05.200 --> 00:03:07.840 that. It's not that we're being again being flakes. 00:03:07.840 --> 00:03:09.760 It's just we're trying to make sure we get it right. 00:03:09.760 --> 00:03:12.880 And that's more important than getting it as quickly as possible. 00:03:12.880 --> 00:03:15.760 This is not a place where things get done fast. 00:03:15.920 --> 00:03:17.520 They got done properly. 00:03:17.520 --> 00:03:19.680 And hopefully that can happen at the same time. 00:03:19.680 --> 00:03:23.680 But when one gives, it's not going to be quality. 00:03:23.680 --> 00:03:28.880 So on the subject of jealousy, I want to first point back 00:03:28.880 --> 00:03:31.280 to an example that I've given in the past and going to 00:03:31.280 --> 00:03:34.000 reiterate here. 00:03:34.000 --> 00:03:39.440 The term itself, the word in the English language, is one that 00:03:39.760 --> 00:03:42.960 most people don't really think about properly, which is part of the 00:03:42.960 --> 00:03:46.000 impetus for doing this episode at all. 00:03:46.000 --> 00:03:49.840 But it's not simply a lack of understanding of a definition of 00:03:49.840 --> 00:03:56.240 a word, it's a misunderstanding of the polarity or the vector of 00:03:56.240 --> 00:03:59.280 the mechanics of what's being said when you use a term like 00:03:59.280 --> 00:04:03.120 jealousy. When I talk about vector, you know, it's there's a direction. 00:04:03.120 --> 00:04:04.960 There's a thing and then it's moving in a direction. 00:04:04.960 --> 00:04:08.720 Polarity. There's an orientation between two things. 00:04:08.720 --> 00:04:11.600 I've said before the one of the very most important things I've 00:04:11.600 --> 00:04:14.880 ever learned in my entire life was how to diagram sentences in 00:04:14.880 --> 00:04:19.200 sixth grade because it visually laid out the structure of the English 00:04:19.200 --> 00:04:20.880 language mechanically. 00:04:20.880 --> 00:04:24.880 Like every word in a sentence is part of a machine that's 00:04:24.880 --> 00:04:25.920 doing something. 00:04:25.920 --> 00:04:29.920 And unfortunately, that's not how people today think about language. 00:04:29.920 --> 00:04:33.600 Our language, even though a lot of our communication is now written 00:04:33.600 --> 00:04:37.360 on the internet, it's not properly written language. 00:04:37.360 --> 00:04:38.560 It's not proofread. 00:04:38.560 --> 00:04:40.160 It's not grammatically correct. 00:04:40.160 --> 00:04:41.840 And I'm certainly guilty of that too. 00:04:41.840 --> 00:04:45.280 I you know we'll take advantage of the fact that there are 00:04:45.360 --> 00:04:47.920 things that are informal and that's fine. 00:04:47.920 --> 00:04:52.320 But the problem is that most people fundamentally treat the English language 00:04:52.320 --> 00:04:54.640 as though it's just an oral language. 00:04:54.640 --> 00:04:58.400 And the flow of language is one thing, but when you forget 00:04:58.400 --> 00:05:02.400 about the structure, it's very easy to miss crucial details. 00:05:02.400 --> 00:05:06.320 So what we're talking about today with jealousy, I want to give 00:05:06.320 --> 00:05:09.680 a couple other words that are typically treated as synonyms that are 00:05:09.680 --> 00:05:11.120 absolutely not synonyms. 00:05:11.280 --> 00:05:16.480 That would be the troika of jealousy, envy, and covetousness. 00:05:16.480 --> 00:05:20.960 We typically use those interchangeably, and probably most people listening wouldn't be 00:05:20.960 --> 00:05:23.360 able to tell you the difference between them. 00:05:23.360 --> 00:05:25.760 But each of them is fundamentally different. 00:05:25.760 --> 00:05:28.160 And before you give the definitions, I want to just give a 00:05:28.160 --> 00:05:31.840 very simple heuristic that you can use to remember from now on 00:05:32.160 --> 00:05:35.040 which one you should use in which sense. 00:05:35.520 --> 00:05:39.040 Jealousy is first person, it's internal. 00:05:39.040 --> 00:05:43.280 You can only be jealous of that which you already possess. 00:05:43.280 --> 00:05:46.400 Envy applies to another person. 00:05:46.400 --> 00:05:50.560 So you envy that someone else has something. 00:05:50.560 --> 00:05:52.480 You're jealous of what you have. 00:05:52.480 --> 00:05:55.200 You envy that they have something. 00:05:55.200 --> 00:05:58.880 And that when you covet what they have, you're coveting an object. 00:05:58.880 --> 00:06:00.640 So those those are the three distinctions. 00:06:00.640 --> 00:06:03.920 And it might seem very fiddly, but the reason that we're laying 00:06:03.920 --> 00:06:08.560 this out up front is that when we talk today about jealousy, 00:06:08.560 --> 00:06:11.200 and not to bury the lead, but jealous is one of the 00:06:11.200 --> 00:06:13.520 names of God that's revealed in scripture. 00:06:13.520 --> 00:06:13.600 So 00:06:14.640 --> 00:06:19.200 we're not talking about a bad thing that we're trying to make 00:06:19.200 --> 00:06:25.280 good. Jealousy properly understood, the term jealous is a neutral term, like 00:06:25.280 --> 00:06:29.440 hatred. When we did the episode on perfect hatred, we made the 00:06:29.440 --> 00:06:34.960 scriptural case that hatred itself is neutral, even though it sounds terrible. 00:06:34.960 --> 00:06:38.800 But to properly understand it, you understand there are cases where things 00:06:38.800 --> 00:06:39.920 are rightly hated. 00:06:39.920 --> 00:06:41.920 That's also the case with jealousy. 00:06:41.920 --> 00:06:45.760 When you properly understand jealousy, there are things of which you are 00:06:45.760 --> 00:06:49.600 rightly jealous, the things which are yours, which are supposed to be 00:06:49.600 --> 00:06:53.600 yours. And then having that jealousy, there are good and bad ways 00:06:53.600 --> 00:06:56.560 to handle it, and that's what this episode's going to be about. 00:06:56.560 --> 00:07:01.040 But that is distinct from envy and from covetousness. 00:07:01.040 --> 00:07:03.760 So I'll give an example that I've also given before. 00:07:03.760 --> 00:07:09.440 It's deliberately inflammatory, it's deliberately a bit salacious, specifically because it's going 00:07:09.440 --> 00:07:15.280 to bypass in some people the reasonable comprehension and trigger an emotional 00:07:15.280 --> 00:07:17.920 response, which is the reason I'm using this example. 00:07:17.920 --> 00:07:21.040 Because in part of what we're talking about today, just as in 00:07:21.040 --> 00:07:24.320 the perfect hatred episode, part of what we're talking about is a 00:07:24.320 --> 00:07:26.480 feeling. Jealousy is a feeling. 00:07:26.480 --> 00:07:27.840 It's an orientation. 00:07:27.840 --> 00:07:32.080 It's not simply a thought, something that's explained. 00:07:32.080 --> 00:07:37.200 So So the salacious example is you, dear listener, have a pretty 00:07:37.200 --> 00:07:40.960 wife. You are rightly jealous of her. 00:07:40.960 --> 00:07:41.840 She is yours. 00:07:41.840 --> 00:07:44.160 And we'll go into detail about what that means. 00:07:44.160 --> 00:07:48.000 Because I think we all understand, you know, maybe it's from police 00:07:48.000 --> 00:07:50.960 procedurals or from hearing people talk. 00:07:50.960 --> 00:07:54.320 When you hear the word jealous, one of the most common things, 00:07:54.320 --> 00:07:57.920 especially watch things like law and order, your brain is naturally going 00:07:57.920 --> 00:08:01.680 to autocomplete it with jealous husband or jealous boyfriend. 00:08:01.680 --> 00:08:04.320 Who's the first suspect whenever there's a murder? 00:08:04.320 --> 00:08:06.560 It's the jealous boyfriend. 00:08:06.560 --> 00:08:14.080 So today there's this completely negative opinion of what the word means. 00:08:14.080 --> 00:08:18.480 And to be frank, we're not saying you should be a jealous 00:08:18.480 --> 00:08:20.720 husband, you should be a jealous boyfriend. 00:08:20.720 --> 00:08:24.320 We're saying that there are ways that this jealousy will either be 00:08:24.320 --> 00:08:25.120 good or evil. 00:08:25.120 --> 00:08:28.160 And just like with hatred, most of the examples in the world 00:08:28.160 --> 00:08:28.880 are evil. 00:08:28.880 --> 00:08:32.880 But the question is not whether the thing is always evil. 00:08:32.880 --> 00:08:36.800 The question is are there examples where it is actually appropriate? 00:08:36.800 --> 00:08:40.320 And so if you have a pretty wife, she's yours. 00:08:40.640 --> 00:08:44.560 there's a possessory interest there where you are naturally jealous of your 00:08:44.560 --> 00:08:46.080 wife. This is she's yours. 00:08:46.080 --> 00:08:48.160 You say she's mine. 00:08:48.160 --> 00:08:53.760 If I'm being wicked, what would I be doing in interfering with 00:08:53.760 --> 00:08:54.640 your marriage? 00:08:54.640 --> 00:08:58.000 I can't be jealous because I have no possessory interest in either 00:08:58.000 --> 00:08:58.480 of you. 00:08:58.480 --> 00:09:00.560 I can't be jealous of you because you're not mine. 00:09:00.560 --> 00:09:04.000 I can't be jealous of her because there's there's no relationship of 00:09:04.000 --> 00:09:09.520 possession from me outside of your marriage into something that is godly. 00:09:09.520 --> 00:09:14.640 I can envy, I can envy you because she's yours. 00:09:14.640 --> 00:09:18.080 So if I am sinning and I am inserting envy into your 00:09:18.080 --> 00:09:20.560 marriage, that is how it works. 00:09:20.560 --> 00:09:22.640 I'm not jealous of you, I'm envious. 00:09:22.640 --> 00:09:27.120 And I'm envious of you because I want your wife, because I'm 00:09:27.120 --> 00:09:28.480 coveting. So So 00:09:29.440 --> 00:09:32.720 two of those are basically always going to be sins. 00:09:32.720 --> 00:09:38.240 The envy and the covetousness are basically always going to be sins. 00:09:38.240 --> 00:09:42.880 In the historic Western numbering of the Ten Commandments, you have commandments 00:09:42.880 --> 00:09:43.360 nine and ten. 00:09:43.600 --> 00:09:46.560 Nine is about real property and ten is about chattels. 00:09:46.560 --> 00:09:51.840 If I covet your wife, I'm coveting something that's not mine, I'm 00:09:51.840 --> 00:09:53.120 coveting something that's yours. 00:09:53.200 --> 00:09:55.120 Saying I want the thing that's yours. 00:09:55.120 --> 00:09:59.600 And then separately, I would envy you because you have it. 00:09:59.600 --> 00:10:02.880 And so want to just lay out this distinction because as we 00:10:02.880 --> 00:10:06.640 talk today about jealousy, we're not talking about envy and we're not 00:10:06.640 --> 00:10:09.120 talking about covetousness at all. 00:10:09.120 --> 00:10:13.680 When we use the term jealousy, it completely excludes the idea that 00:10:13.680 --> 00:10:16.400 I see that you have something and I want it, or that 00:10:16.400 --> 00:10:19.360 I want the thing that you have, which are two very closely 00:10:19.360 --> 00:10:24.160 related but completely distinct types of things because there's a polarity. 00:10:24.160 --> 00:10:26.000 There's a degree of possession. 00:10:26.000 --> 00:10:29.280 What is the order of operations there? 00:10:29.280 --> 00:10:32.640 One more superficial example before we move on. 00:10:32.640 --> 00:10:34.400 Corey and I both have beards. 00:10:34.400 --> 00:10:38.240 Corey has a great big bushy beard, a full manly beard. 00:10:38.400 --> 00:10:42.560 Half the guys uh follow me on Twitter have fantastic beards. 00:10:42.560 --> 00:10:45.280 I do not have a great big manly beard. 00:10:45.280 --> 00:10:47.520 I keep it short because if I tried to grow it out, 00:10:47.520 --> 00:10:49.200 it would look like crap. 00:10:49.200 --> 00:10:50.480 I like my beard. 00:10:50.480 --> 00:10:53.680 I keep it short because it's easy to maintain. 00:10:53.680 --> 00:10:55.120 I don't want a long beard. 00:10:55.120 --> 00:10:56.400 I look better with it. 00:10:56.400 --> 00:10:58.960 It keeps me warm in the winter, which is by half the 00:10:58.960 --> 00:11:00.240 year where I live. 00:11:00.240 --> 00:11:02.080 And it's basically zero maintenance. 00:11:02.080 --> 00:11:04.480 So I'm very happy with my beard. 00:11:04.480 --> 00:11:08.480 But at the same time I envy Corey for his ability to 00:11:08.480 --> 00:11:10.320 grow a full beard. 00:11:10.320 --> 00:11:12.640 So I don't covet his beard or any of the beards of 00:11:12.640 --> 00:11:16.160 the guy who's who follow me online because I wouldn't want to 00:11:16.160 --> 00:11:17.280 have their beard. 00:11:17.280 --> 00:11:19.680 So I don't covet anyone else's beard. 00:11:19.680 --> 00:11:20.880 I like mine. 00:11:20.880 --> 00:11:24.000 But I envy their ability to grow it. 00:11:24.000 --> 00:11:26.400 Yeah, I'm not confessing a sin here, I don't think. 00:11:26.400 --> 00:11:30.640 Like it's this isn't banished, just it's an example of the structure 00:11:30.640 --> 00:11:33.120 of the words that we're talking about here. 00:11:33.120 --> 00:11:35.600 And am I jealous of my own beard? 00:11:35.600 --> 00:11:37.920 I mean, I'm not gonna shave it because again, there's there are 00:11:38.000 --> 00:11:39.520 upsides to the way it is. 00:11:39.520 --> 00:11:41.920 I wish I could be fuller and thicker and that would be 00:11:41.920 --> 00:11:45.600 cool, but even if that were possible, I still wouldn't do it. 00:11:45.600 --> 00:11:49.040 So everything that we're talking about here today has to do with 00:11:49.200 --> 00:11:53.920 possession. It has to do with what's mine, what's yours, what's God's, 00:11:53.920 --> 00:11:57.920 and how we treat those things in those relationships. 00:11:57.920 --> 00:12:02.560 So throughout this time here today, as you hear us talking about 00:12:02.560 --> 00:12:06.320 jealousy, please remember, we are not talking about envy. 00:12:06.320 --> 00:12:08.480 We're not talking about covetousness. 00:12:08.480 --> 00:12:11.680 That is to say, we are not talking about reaching outside of 00:12:11.680 --> 00:12:14.320 that which is ours to someone else's. 00:12:14.320 --> 00:12:18.800 Jealousy is completely internal, whether it's good or it's bad, you can 00:12:18.800 --> 00:12:24.560 only be jealous of that for which you have a possessory interest. 00:12:24.880 --> 00:12:25.040 To 00:12:25.040 --> 00:12:30.480 dwell on the language aspect a little more, prepositions are one of 00:12:30.480 --> 00:12:35.200 those things in really any language, at least any language of which 00:12:35.200 --> 00:12:39.040 I am aware, that can get a little fuzzy, they can be 00:12:39.040 --> 00:12:44.080 a little difficult, because they don't really have an essential meaning as 00:12:44.080 --> 00:12:49.040 it were, they are really specific to the language that uses them. 00:12:49.040 --> 00:12:54.480 And that's why different prepositions will be used across languages for the 00:12:54.480 --> 00:12:59.040 exact same thing, but a totally different preposition The lexical scope of 00:12:59.040 --> 00:13:05.200 a preposition from one language to the next is basically not predictable. 00:13:05.200 --> 00:13:10.720 And that plays into this because obviously the word jealous, to be 00:13:10.720 --> 00:13:17.760 jealous, is always paired with one of essentially two prepositions in English. 00:13:17.760 --> 00:13:21.760 You're either jealous of or jealous for. 00:13:21.760 --> 00:13:24.800 And I want to distinguish those, even though they are used 00:13:25.680 --> 00:13:29.920 not entirely consistently for all writers in English, they use them somewhat 00:13:29.920 --> 00:13:35.200 interchangeably. But the sense we are discussing is to be jealous jealous 00:13:35.200 --> 00:13:40.640 of one is jealous of one's wife and the reason this can 00:13:40.640 --> 00:13:45.760 be a little misleading to most modern English ears is that this 00:13:46.080 --> 00:13:50.000 usage, while not unique, is an outlier. 00:13:50.000 --> 00:13:55.920 Because usually when something is, you know, verb of the referent for 00:13:55.920 --> 00:13:58.800 that is something wholly external. 00:13:59.120 --> 00:14:00.240 So if you'd said 00:14:01.200 --> 00:14:07.840 this room smells of lavender, well that's wholly external to smell. 00:14:07.840 --> 00:14:10.080 The lavender part of that. 00:14:10.080 --> 00:14:15.040 That's not the case with of with the referent for jealous of 00:14:16.160 --> 00:14:20.400 it's really internal, because that jealousy is a wholly internal matter. 00:14:20.400 --> 00:14:24.560 Yes, the thing of which you are jealous is external, but it 00:14:24.560 --> 00:14:28.240 is different in kind from the way in which we usually use 00:14:28.480 --> 00:14:31.200 that construction in English. 00:14:31.200 --> 00:14:36.160 And so we've sort of been misled by, as Wo mentioned, police 00:14:36.160 --> 00:14:39.520 procedurals and other things, where they really emphasize this negative 00:14:40.400 --> 00:14:43.280 sense of jealousy. 00:14:43.280 --> 00:14:48.640 And this is something when we were doing research for this episode. 00:14:48.640 --> 00:14:53.920 Obviously, I knew that in German, jealousy, in the positive sense and 00:14:53.920 --> 00:14:56.480 the negative sense, you don't need the words, they're not relevant here, 00:14:56.480 --> 00:14:59.840 but in the positive sense and the negative sense, are distinguished in 00:14:59.840 --> 00:15:02.400 German. They're different terms. 00:15:02.400 --> 00:15:06.000 I could not find a single other language that does that, which 00:15:06.000 --> 00:15:07.120 I thought was odd. 00:15:07.120 --> 00:15:09.600 I figured that maybe one of the other Germanic languages would do 00:15:09.600 --> 00:15:10.880 it, but no. 00:15:10.880 --> 00:15:14.880 And I checked some Asian languages and I checked many European languages. 00:15:14.880 --> 00:15:19.520 I could not find another language that distinguishes in that way. 00:15:19.520 --> 00:15:22.240 And so this is not a problem that is or not even 00:15:22.240 --> 00:15:27.520 really a problem, but a potential problem, a point to which we 00:15:27.520 --> 00:15:31.440 have to pay particular attention, but it's not unique to English, and 00:15:31.440 --> 00:15:32.720 it occurs in Greek as well. 00:15:32.720 --> 00:15:36.080 So we do have this also in the underlying words as it 00:15:36.080 --> 00:15:41.680 were in scripture with regard to the Greek, this positive and negative 00:15:41.680 --> 00:15:42.800 sense of jealousy. 00:15:42.800 --> 00:15:45.840 And so obviously the positive sense is to be jealous of one's 00:15:46.400 --> 00:15:51.280 wife, it is to have that proper orientation toward the possessory interest 00:15:51.360 --> 00:15:53.680 that you have in your possession. 00:15:53.680 --> 00:15:57.440 And that's true whether it's your water bottle, your phone, or your 00:15:57.440 --> 00:16:00.320 wife, your oxen, whatever you happen to have. 00:16:00.960 --> 00:16:04.800 Or whatever things are listed in the ninth and tenth commandment, for 00:16:04.800 --> 00:16:09.760 instance. You are to be jealous of those things because they have 00:16:09.760 --> 00:16:12.000 been given to you by God. 00:16:12.000 --> 00:16:15.840 But this negative sense that we also have that the word carries 00:16:15.840 --> 00:16:20.400 along with it in basically every language, German accepted, for some reason 00:16:20.480 --> 00:16:25.840 of which I'm not aware, probably related to scripture, quite frankly. 00:16:25.840 --> 00:16:30.240 But this negative sense that comes along with the word jealous is 00:16:30.240 --> 00:16:31.200 a separate thing. 00:16:31.200 --> 00:16:34.640 That is when it turns into a negative emotion. 00:16:34.640 --> 00:16:41.040 That is when you're dealing with suspicion and hatred and anger essentially 00:16:41.280 --> 00:16:46.240 what that negative sense is, is when due to some sort of 00:16:46.240 --> 00:16:49.600 fear of the loss of a thing of which you are rightly 00:16:49.600 --> 00:16:56.720 jealous, you experience this other negative emotion, this other negative reaction. 00:16:56.720 --> 00:17:00.720 And in English we also call that negative reaction jealousy. 00:17:00.720 --> 00:17:03.680 And so we are speaking of in this episode, we are focusing 00:17:03.680 --> 00:17:05.840 on that positive sense. 00:17:05.840 --> 00:17:10.000 There is no other term in English for the negative sense. 00:17:10.000 --> 00:17:12.960 I was tempted to create one, I may do so at some 00:17:12.960 --> 00:17:16.160 point, but jealousy encompasses both. 00:17:16.160 --> 00:17:19.600 I would say we should focus on the positive aspect, not just 00:17:19.600 --> 00:17:22.320 in this episode, but in our usage of it in our daily 00:17:22.320 --> 00:17:29.520 lives. Because the preponderant usage in the negative sense has has basically 00:17:29.520 --> 00:17:34.240 led to almost the erasure of the positive sense of jealousy. 00:17:34.240 --> 00:17:38.240 And as Christians we need that positive sense of jealousy because as 00:17:38.240 --> 00:17:41.680 Woe said, it is one of the names of God, first and 00:17:41.680 --> 00:17:46.000 foremost, but second, it relates to many parts of Scripture. 00:17:46.000 --> 00:17:49.120 It relates to the Ten Commandments, it relates to 00:17:50.000 --> 00:17:52.720 all sorts of gifts and blessings from God. 00:17:52.720 --> 00:17:55.360 We should be jealous of these things because they have been given 00:17:55.360 --> 00:17:55.680 to us 00:17:56.720 --> 00:18:00.400 by God or created by God. 00:18:00.400 --> 00:18:03.920 And I also mentioned that it is not necessarily just jealous of, 00:18:03.920 --> 00:18:05.280 but jealous for. 00:18:05.280 --> 00:18:08.320 And I'll go over the jealous for part now. 00:18:08.320 --> 00:18:14.000 Jealous for is when you are expressing rightful jealousy on behalf of 00:18:14.000 --> 00:18:18.320 another. And the reason we have to distinguish this and pay attention 00:18:18.320 --> 00:18:21.920 to this is because that form also occurs in scripture. 00:18:21.920 --> 00:18:26.080 There are men who are praised because they were jealous for God's 00:18:26.080 --> 00:18:32.000 honor. Now, obviously, God's honor does not belong to any man, except 00:18:32.000 --> 00:18:36.960 for Jesus Christ, but God's honor does not belong to any one 00:18:36.960 --> 00:18:41.680 of us, and so we cannot be jealous of God's honor. 00:18:41.680 --> 00:18:47.520 However, when we see others abusing God's name, blaspheming, whatever it happens 00:18:47.520 --> 00:18:48.480 to be, we can be jealous 00:18:49.360 --> 00:18:54.320 for God's honor, jealous for God's rightful praise and glory. 00:18:54.320 --> 00:18:59.520 That is jealousy rightfully expressed on behalf of another. 00:18:59.600 --> 00:19:04.000 And so obviously, God rightfully is jealous of his honor, his glory, 00:19:04.000 --> 00:19:04.960 his name. 00:19:04.960 --> 00:19:10.480 When we do something that is in pursuit of the rightful expression 00:19:10.480 --> 00:19:15.120 of that in human relations and in human actions, we are being 00:19:15.120 --> 00:19:18.000 jealous for those things. 00:19:18.000 --> 00:19:21.040 And so it is important to bear in mind some of these 00:19:21.040 --> 00:19:24.000 moving parts of how the language works. 00:19:24.000 --> 00:19:29.120 One of the things that has become very common in modern language 00:19:29.120 --> 00:19:33.600 usage, particularly in English, for a number of reasons, not just because 00:19:34.240 --> 00:19:39.280 English speakers have become lazy, but because English is the lingua franca, 00:19:39.280 --> 00:19:42.880 a slightly ironic term at this point, but it is the universal 00:19:42.880 --> 00:19:44.160 language, as it were, of the world. 00:19:44.160 --> 00:19:47.040 And so you have a lot of different groups pulling on it 00:19:47.040 --> 00:19:48.880 in different directions. 00:19:48.880 --> 00:19:52.960 And it's very easy to let some of these structural components that 00:19:52.960 --> 00:19:59.200 are necessary for the language to remain useful at a high level, 00:19:59.200 --> 00:20:02.800 we can sort of let those slip away, if we're not careful. 00:20:02.960 --> 00:20:05.760 So we have to pay attention to what it is we're saying 00:20:05.920 --> 00:20:09.600 and why we're saying it and what it actually means. 00:20:09.600 --> 00:20:14.000 Because if we don't do that, this bleeds over into the written 00:20:14.000 --> 00:20:14.880 language as well. 00:20:14.880 --> 00:20:19.280 Because of course, languages are Languages are first and foremost spoken. 00:20:19.280 --> 00:20:21.840 You learn to speak before you learn to write. 00:20:21.840 --> 00:20:24.720 You learn to speak before you learn to read. 00:20:24.720 --> 00:20:27.520 But those are two connected things. 00:20:27.520 --> 00:20:31.760 Yes, for most people they're going to speak and write differently, you 00:20:31.760 --> 00:20:36.320 are going to sound different in your written words from your spoken 00:20:36.320 --> 00:20:40.800 words, some of us a little less so, but most people sound 00:20:40.800 --> 00:20:43.920 different. However, the one informs the other. 00:20:43.920 --> 00:20:45.200 There's a feedback loop there. 00:20:45.200 --> 00:20:48.320 If you start to get lazy about these things in the way 00:20:48.320 --> 00:20:53.760 you speak, that will bleed over not just into how you write, 00:20:53.760 --> 00:20:55.600 but into how you read. 00:20:55.600 --> 00:20:58.560 And so if you don't pay attention to these things when you 00:20:58.560 --> 00:21:04.320 are discussing them, when you are speaking about them, you will start 00:21:04.320 --> 00:21:07.040 to slip in what you do when you are reading. 00:21:07.040 --> 00:21:10.160 And so you'll read scripture and you'll see some of these words, 00:21:10.160 --> 00:21:14.560 some of these formulations, some of these phrases, and you'll miss what 00:21:14.560 --> 00:21:16.160 they actually mean. 00:21:16.160 --> 00:21:19.840 You'll see jealous, and you'll think it's a negative thing, but then 00:21:19.840 --> 00:21:21.120 it says it's of God. 00:21:21.120 --> 00:21:23.280 Well now you have a problem. 00:21:23.280 --> 00:21:28.320 Because if you think that jealousy is wholly negative or solely negative, 00:21:28.320 --> 00:21:31.600 and yet it is positive of God, for whom there is no 00:21:31.600 --> 00:21:35.120 such thing as a negative attribute, well now you have a very 00:21:35.120 --> 00:21:36.960 real problem. 00:21:36.960 --> 00:21:40.880 And so as Christians we need to pay attention to these moving 00:21:40.880 --> 00:21:44.080 parts, and we need to be more careful about how we use 00:21:44.080 --> 00:21:48.400 these things, particularly when it is something as core as a word 00:21:48.800 --> 00:21:52.080 that is used as a name of God in scripture, something that 00:21:52.080 --> 00:21:55.760 is explicitly said to be one of his attributes. 00:21:55.760 --> 00:21:58.480 He is a jealous God. 00:21:58.480 --> 00:22:01.920 God is not guilty of some sin as the modern world would 00:22:01.920 --> 00:22:04.560 have us believe jealousy is. 00:22:04.560 --> 00:22:09.200 God is rightfully jealous of the things that are rightfully his, and 00:22:09.200 --> 00:22:12.240 in his case, of course, that's everything because everything belongs to the 00:22:12.640 --> 00:22:15.760 creator because everything is created. 00:22:16.640 --> 00:22:20.080 I think probably the best illustration of the point you just made 00:22:20.080 --> 00:22:26.400 about the difference between jealous of and jealous for is that jealousy 00:22:26.560 --> 00:22:27.120 and zeal 00:22:28.480 --> 00:22:30.880 are effectively synonyms. 00:22:30.880 --> 00:22:33.040 It's the same root word. 00:22:33.040 --> 00:22:37.120 And although you have Z E A L and J E A 00:22:37.280 --> 00:22:40.560 L, we don't have a word geal or gel, but we do 00:22:40.560 --> 00:22:42.000 have zeal. 00:22:42.000 --> 00:22:46.000 And the crucial thing to understand is that they mean the same 00:22:46.000 --> 00:22:51.280 thing. There's a very subtle nuance in English between them, but it's 00:22:51.280 --> 00:22:53.840 a nuance of the same meaning. 00:22:53.840 --> 00:22:58.480 So typically we would say we are zealous for, we are zealous 00:22:58.480 --> 00:23:03.440 for the Lord, which I realized earlier today is humorously one of 00:23:03.440 --> 00:23:07.520 the things that Corey and I were denounced for by the LCMS 00:23:07.520 --> 00:23:11.680 a year ago, when they when Harrison put out that screed that 00:23:11.680 --> 00:23:18.800 denounced us, that damned us for absolutist ideologies, that was half a 00:23:18.800 --> 00:23:22.400 step removed from damning zeal. 00:23:22.400 --> 00:23:25.760 Which if it's zeal for being evil, yeah, then it's the evil 00:23:25.760 --> 00:23:27.040 part that's bad. 00:23:27.040 --> 00:23:31.040 But zeal in and of itself is a good thing, even when 00:23:31.040 --> 00:23:32.320 it's for God. 00:23:32.480 --> 00:23:35.120 And I think that we're seeing a lot of that play out 00:23:35.120 --> 00:23:38.880 today. Certainly we see it happening on the internet, but I think 00:23:38.880 --> 00:23:42.480 it's happening really in a lot of men's lives where men are 00:23:42.480 --> 00:23:46.480 finally becoming zealous for the Lord. 00:23:46.480 --> 00:23:46.800 And 00:23:47.680 --> 00:23:53.680 it's something that gets accused by many pastors of as immaturity, that 00:23:53.680 --> 00:23:58.080 this is childish, that this is it's just it it's childish zeal. 00:23:58.080 --> 00:24:01.040 It's youthful zeal in a negative sense. 00:24:01.040 --> 00:24:05.840 That only a child, only someone immature would actually have zeal for 00:24:05.840 --> 00:24:06.800 the Lord. 00:24:06.800 --> 00:24:11.360 Because by the time somebody gets through seminary and they've been frocked. 00:24:11.680 --> 00:24:15.680 They've kind of turned into something else where the idea of having 00:24:15.680 --> 00:24:20.000 zeal is potentially a threat if it's not coming from them. 00:24:20.000 --> 00:24:23.600 That's something that I'm seeing happen all the time on the internet. 00:24:23.600 --> 00:24:26.640 The men who are actually zealous who are trying to get things 00:24:26.640 --> 00:24:28.720 right are seen as a threat. 00:24:28.720 --> 00:24:32.080 Whether or not they're they're what they're saying is true or not, 00:24:32.080 --> 00:24:35.200 it's threatening this uh that a man would be zealous for the 00:24:35.200 --> 00:24:38.720 Lord. And I think that's a real spiritual problem that all of 00:24:38.720 --> 00:24:40.160 our churches are facing. 00:24:40.160 --> 00:24:42.880 If they're men who are zealous for the Lord, even if it's 00:24:42.880 --> 00:24:46.880 coming in part from a spiritual immaturity, that's something that should be 00:24:46.880 --> 00:24:50.320 channeled. That's something that should be refined and turned into something 00:24:51.360 --> 00:24:54.160 that's the beautiful essence of what's there. 00:24:54.160 --> 00:24:56.080 Because zeal for the Lord is good. 00:24:56.080 --> 00:25:00.080 It's when you stop worrying about for the Lord and just want 00:25:00.080 --> 00:25:03.280 to be zealous when you turn into a zealot, which again is 00:25:03.280 --> 00:25:08.880 another completely negative word today, but zealot is basically one who is 00:25:08.880 --> 00:25:13.200 jealous. And then of course our front our fundamental point here is 00:25:13.360 --> 00:25:14.640 of what are you jealous? 00:25:15.040 --> 00:25:17.280 For what are you zealous? 00:25:17.760 --> 00:25:20.960 what what is the animating force behind the thing? 00:25:20.960 --> 00:25:24.160 So it's just interesting that when you look back, those words both 00:25:24.160 --> 00:25:28.000 enter into the English language from the same origin point. 00:25:29.040 --> 00:25:31.840 Since we mentioned, I want to give the exact citation so that 00:25:31.840 --> 00:25:33.520 you can see for yourself. 00:25:33.520 --> 00:25:39.200 In Exodus 34, it is said, For you shall worship no other 00:25:39.200 --> 00:25:43.920 God, for the Lord, whose name is jealous, is a jealous God. 00:25:43.920 --> 00:25:48.960 As Corey just said, when God says he's jealous, it doesn't need 00:25:48.960 --> 00:25:50.000 a modifier. 00:25:50.000 --> 00:25:53.200 And it's unique to him that he doesn't need a modifier. 00:25:53.200 --> 00:25:55.920 When you're talking about God, you don't need to worry, well, what 00:25:55.920 --> 00:25:56.960 is he jealous of? 00:25:56.960 --> 00:26:00.640 If to say that I am jealous doesn't make any sense. 00:26:00.880 --> 00:26:07.040 there has to be some operant upon which my jealousy is acting. 00:26:07.040 --> 00:26:09.760 That's not the case with God because He's a creator. 00:26:09.760 --> 00:26:12.240 Everything is created by God. 00:26:12.240 --> 00:26:13.040 It's His. 00:26:13.040 --> 00:26:15.600 So He's jealous because it's all His. 00:26:15.600 --> 00:26:15.920 And 00:26:16.880 --> 00:26:20.800 this is crucial because I think that our ability to even think 00:26:21.200 --> 00:26:28.720 about these things today is almost completely dominated by psychological terms, psychological 00:26:28.720 --> 00:26:33.920 thought. There are people who actually make fun of the triune God 00:26:34.640 --> 00:26:38.880 for creating us to worship him and say, well that's a symptom 00:26:38.880 --> 00:26:42.240 of low self-esteem, or this guy's got some problems. 00:26:42.240 --> 00:26:44.640 Why does he need to create people just to worship him? 00:26:44.640 --> 00:26:47.280 Like that's when we try to think of it in human terms 00:26:47.600 --> 00:26:52.320 and then evilly, because this is not simply the human perception, a 00:26:52.320 --> 00:26:58.320 human neutrally perceiving that the Almighty is acting should be terrified. 00:26:58.400 --> 00:27:01.840 Like, okay, the Almighty's here, I'm gonna not screw around. 00:27:01.840 --> 00:27:05.680 But the atheist, when he's confronted with the Almighty, wants to mock 00:27:05.680 --> 00:27:09.600 and deride and psychologize and say, well, something's wrong with God. 00:27:09.600 --> 00:27:11.440 Why does he need to be jealous of anything? 00:27:11.440 --> 00:27:14.640 That's part of what the threat is to our Christian faith that 00:27:14.640 --> 00:27:16.480 we're addressing in this episode. 00:27:16.480 --> 00:27:20.800 Because suddenly when God is talking about Himself in a certain way, 00:27:20.800 --> 00:27:24.720 saying, I'm the creator of all things, you're mine, we should give 00:27:24.720 --> 00:27:26.720 thanks. We should say, Yeah, amen. 00:27:26.720 --> 00:27:27.840 That's true. 00:27:27.840 --> 00:27:28.960 Thank God. 00:27:28.960 --> 00:27:32.480 And oh boy, I'm in trouble and I need salvation. 00:27:32.480 --> 00:27:34.480 And God has the answer to that too. 00:27:34.480 --> 00:27:40.320 That's the correct response to hearing that God his name is jealous. 00:27:40.320 --> 00:27:44.480 The sinful response is the one that has really kind of been 00:27:44.480 --> 00:27:49.200 baked into the modern psyche, which is that anyone who says that 00:27:49.200 --> 00:27:53.840 anything is mine is is somehow defective, that it's a sign of 00:27:53.840 --> 00:27:56.320 weakness to say this is mine. 00:27:56.320 --> 00:28:00.160 So, you know, when we're talking about a husband being properly jealous, 00:28:00.160 --> 00:28:03.200 obviously there are terrible ways that that manifests. 00:28:03.200 --> 00:28:07.200 It's probably the more common case at this point for a husband 00:28:07.200 --> 00:28:12.480 who even if his jealousy of his wife maybe at some point 00:28:12.480 --> 00:28:16.720 it came from a good place, it turns into something evil because 00:28:16.720 --> 00:28:17.760 he's a sinner. 00:28:18.320 --> 00:28:21.840 And we're not justifying that in the slightest. 00:28:21.840 --> 00:28:22.800 We'll make that clear. 00:28:22.800 --> 00:28:25.600 We're not saying all jealousy is always good all the time. 00:28:25.600 --> 00:28:31.840 Jealousy is a neutral term, but a husband's wife is his, not 00:28:31.840 --> 00:28:35.760 mine, not yours, one wife to one man, she belongs to him, 00:28:35.760 --> 00:28:40.560 and anyone who interferes with that is his problem, and he is 00:28:40.560 --> 00:28:45.120 right to be jealous of that relationship, but the manner in which 00:28:45.440 --> 00:28:48.160 that jealousy manifests can either be good or evil. 00:28:48.160 --> 00:28:53.360 Like the appropriate manifestation of a husband's jealousy for his wife is 00:28:53.520 --> 00:28:56.320 to protect her, to care for her, to do all the good 00:28:56.320 --> 00:28:58.080 things the husbands are supposed to do. 00:28:58.080 --> 00:29:02.080 And that includes guarding her from men who would seek to interfere 00:29:02.080 --> 00:29:05.680 with their relationship that God has ordained. 00:29:05.680 --> 00:29:07.920 It can also go wrong, it can go horribly wrong. 00:29:07.920 --> 00:29:10.240 It can lead to the point that you know it does end 00:29:10.240 --> 00:29:14.480 up as a plot on a procedural drama where a man's jealousy 00:29:14.560 --> 00:29:17.520 becomes disordered and then hateful and murderous. 00:29:17.520 --> 00:29:18.880 And that's wicked. 00:29:18.880 --> 00:29:19.760 She's your wife. 00:29:19.760 --> 00:29:20.560 You don't injure her. 00:29:20.880 --> 00:29:23.760 You don't harm that which is yours. 00:29:23.760 --> 00:29:25.520 Frankly, because it's yours. 00:29:25.520 --> 00:29:29.200 It why would you harm that which is a blessing to you? 00:29:29.200 --> 00:29:30.880 That's evil. 00:29:30.880 --> 00:29:32.400 And that's also jealousy. 00:29:32.400 --> 00:29:34.480 It's the evil form of jealousy. 00:29:34.480 --> 00:29:36.800 So the neutrality is crucial. 00:29:36.800 --> 00:29:41.680 There's another verse that uses exactly the same word that the Greek 00:29:41.680 --> 00:29:45.680 does in Exodus in Galatians in Galatians five. 00:29:45.680 --> 00:29:50.880 Now the works of the flesh are evident sexual immorality, impurity, sensuality, 00:29:50.880 --> 00:29:58.240 idolatry, sorcery, enmity, strife, jealousy, fits of anger, rivalries, dissensions, divisions, 00:29:58.240 --> 00:30:01.360 envy, drunkenness, orgies, and things like these. 00:30:01.360 --> 00:30:04.320 I warn you as I warned you before, that those who do 00:30:04.320 --> 00:30:06.960 such things will not inherit the kingdom of God. 00:30:07.200 --> 00:30:10.080 Jealousy is right in the middle of that, and it's exactly the 00:30:10.080 --> 00:30:13.680 same word that God uses as his own name. 00:30:13.760 --> 00:30:17.360 So as Corey said, like it's crucial that we understand that there's 00:30:17.360 --> 00:30:20.240 a distinction between that which is good and that which is evil 00:30:20.320 --> 00:30:24.240 because unfortunately in our language it's the same word. 00:30:24.240 --> 00:30:24.880 And so 00:30:25.760 --> 00:30:29.120 part we're doing this episode is that by the end, we want 00:30:29.120 --> 00:30:32.480 to be able to make the case that it is a Christian 00:30:32.480 --> 00:30:36.960 exhortation to say that you should be jealous of certain things. 00:30:36.960 --> 00:30:39.360 You should be zealous for certain things. 00:30:39.360 --> 00:30:41.280 But the only way we can get there, and you can listen 00:30:41.280 --> 00:30:44.320 to that with a clean conscience in view of things like Galatians 00:30:44.480 --> 00:30:47.920 5, is if you understand it, we're not talking about the sinful 00:30:47.920 --> 00:30:51.200 type of jealousy, which is why at the outset we excluded envy 00:30:51.200 --> 00:30:52.240 and covetousness. 00:30:52.240 --> 00:30:53.680 It's got nothing to do with that. 00:30:53.680 --> 00:30:56.000 It doesn't have to do with what anyone else has. 00:30:56.000 --> 00:30:58.320 It has to do with what you have. 00:30:58.320 --> 00:31:04.320 As Corey said, the things that we have are functions of stewardship, 00:31:04.320 --> 00:31:05.200 whatever they are. 00:31:05.200 --> 00:31:10.080 It may be your home or your body, your wealth, you name 00:31:10.080 --> 00:31:13.280 it, anything that you have is a gift from God. 00:31:13.280 --> 00:31:15.360 They're blessings from God. 00:31:15.360 --> 00:31:17.840 When we did the episode on the Fair of Lord, I talked 00:31:17.840 --> 00:31:21.600 about when I had a stroke and suddenly my arm died. 00:31:21.600 --> 00:31:24.080 I'm like, well, that's not my arm anymore for a while. 00:31:24.080 --> 00:31:25.360 I hope to get it back. 00:31:25.360 --> 00:31:28.960 But in that moment I realized that something that was if physically 00:31:28.960 --> 00:31:32.800 attached to me was also a temporary gift. 00:31:32.800 --> 00:31:35.920 And that, you know, is a good reminder of mortality. 00:31:35.920 --> 00:31:37.040 Someday all this goes away. 00:31:37.040 --> 00:31:37.760 I'm dead. 00:31:37.760 --> 00:31:38.960 There's nothing left. 00:31:38.960 --> 00:31:40.240 I have to trust in God. 00:31:40.240 --> 00:31:42.480 We have to trust in God all the time. 00:31:42.480 --> 00:31:46.800 And understanding that the gifts that we have, whatever they are, are 00:31:46.800 --> 00:31:48.560 ours to be good stewards. 00:31:48.560 --> 00:31:51.680 And so, you know, having a stroke looking at a dead arm, 00:31:51.680 --> 00:31:54.880 it crossed my mind some of the sins that I'd committed with 00:31:54.880 --> 00:31:57.360 that arm, like, well it's dead now you know, if I get 00:31:57.360 --> 00:32:00.160 it back, am I going to do a better job next time? 00:32:01.040 --> 00:32:04.160 The stewardship that we have of the things that are given to 00:32:04.160 --> 00:32:08.960 us is the reason the jealousy matters. 00:32:08.960 --> 00:32:12.880 Because if it's not my body, if it's not my house, if 00:32:12.880 --> 00:32:16.240 it's not my community, my family, if those things are if I 00:32:16.240 --> 00:32:21.600 can't say mine, then the relationship that I have with my possessions 00:32:21.600 --> 00:32:25.920 relative to what God has said is fundamentally broken. 00:32:25.920 --> 00:32:29.600 God has given us all these things in our lives to do 00:32:29.600 --> 00:32:30.720 his will with them. 00:32:30.720 --> 00:32:34.560 Whatever good works he prepared for us, he gives us stuff to 00:32:34.560 --> 00:32:35.120 do it. 00:32:35.120 --> 00:32:36.640 And we're given different things. 00:32:36.640 --> 00:32:39.680 Some men are given more intelligence, some men are given more strength, 00:32:39.680 --> 00:32:42.640 more wisdom, more courage, more wealth. 00:32:42.640 --> 00:32:46.960 Whatever you have, most men are just completely boring normal guys. 00:32:46.960 --> 00:32:48.240 That's a blessing too. 00:32:48.240 --> 00:32:50.480 That's what gets the whole world done. 00:32:50.480 --> 00:32:53.840 Guys who don't have anything in particular, but they show up every 00:32:53.840 --> 00:32:56.320 day. That is a blessing from God too. 00:32:56.320 --> 00:33:00.560 It's something that has to be revered and respected and recognize that 00:33:00.560 --> 00:33:05.360 that stewardship of whatever they have is equally important as anything for 00:33:05.360 --> 00:33:08.240 some guy who set has something bigger and flashier. 00:33:08.240 --> 00:33:11.680 The stewardship of the things of which you are jealous, the things 00:33:11.680 --> 00:33:13.360 you can say, these are mine 00:33:14.480 --> 00:33:17.760 The Christian understands that when I say this is mine, at the 00:33:17.760 --> 00:33:21.520 same time, that's a confession that God gave it to me. 00:33:21.520 --> 00:33:25.680 And so when we think about jealousy, it cannot simply be in 00:33:25.680 --> 00:33:27.440 terms of mine, mine, mine. 00:33:27.440 --> 00:33:28.960 That becomes evil jealousy. 00:33:28.960 --> 00:33:32.240 That's how you end up in a state where you're only sinning 00:33:32.560 --> 00:33:35.360 with the jealous possession of a thing. 00:33:35.360 --> 00:33:38.240 When on the other hand you look jealously at the things that 00:33:38.240 --> 00:33:41.440 God has given you that for which you are a steward, then 00:33:41.440 --> 00:33:42.080 that jealousy 00:33:43.440 --> 00:33:44.720 is also zeal. 00:33:45.040 --> 00:33:49.120 it's the the favorable in English notion of the thing. 00:33:49.440 --> 00:33:53.200 if you were zeal for the energy that you have for sharing 00:33:53.200 --> 00:33:56.880 the gospel or roofing houses or whatever thing that you do that 00:33:56.880 --> 00:34:01.040 benefits your neighbor, if you're zealous about that, that's something that God 00:34:01.040 --> 00:34:01.520 has given you. 00:34:01.520 --> 00:34:05.520 It's your gift and you're a steward of it because God wants 00:34:05.520 --> 00:34:07.920 you to be and you know it and you recognize it. 00:34:07.920 --> 00:34:09.920 That's the good version of it. 00:34:09.920 --> 00:34:12.880 But in either case, whether it's the negative one, where you're thinking 00:34:13.040 --> 00:34:16.080 mine, mine, mine, or the positive one, you're like, this is mine, 00:34:16.080 --> 00:34:17.920 I have to do something good with it. 00:34:17.920 --> 00:34:23.840 Both of those are coming from jealousy, from understanding this belongs to 00:34:23.840 --> 00:34:26.480 me. The thing that God has given me, no one else can 00:34:26.480 --> 00:34:27.520 do anything with. 00:34:27.520 --> 00:34:31.040 If you're given particular gifts and you're so lazy that you never 00:34:31.040 --> 00:34:35.120 do anything with them, if you just bury them in the ground, 00:34:35.120 --> 00:34:37.200 so that when God shows up, you can say, Well, here it 00:34:37.200 --> 00:34:39.280 is, I'm giving you back what you gave me. 00:34:39.280 --> 00:34:41.760 He's gonna call you wicked and say, Why didn't you do anything 00:34:41.760 --> 00:34:42.160 with it? 00:34:42.160 --> 00:34:43.120 There's a parable about that. 00:34:43.200 --> 00:34:44.720 It's probably ringing some bells. 00:34:44.720 --> 00:34:46.160 That's what we're talking about here. 00:34:46.160 --> 00:34:49.840 When we're given things and we're stewards of them, they're ours, we're 00:34:49.760 --> 00:34:52.800 to be jealous of them, but we're to use them in God's 00:34:52.800 --> 00:34:58.160 service. And so for men, the distinction between evil jealousy and good 00:34:58.160 --> 00:35:03.360 jealousy is Is understanding where the stuff's coming from in the first 00:35:03.360 --> 00:35:06.720 place. When we look at the second table of the law, you 00:35:06.720 --> 00:35:11.360 have in the Western numbering, fifth commandment, don't kill, sixth commandment, don't 00:35:11.280 --> 00:35:15.280 commit adultery, seventh, don't steal, eighth, don't slander, and the ninth and 00:35:15.280 --> 00:35:16.640 tenth are about coveting. 00:35:16.640 --> 00:35:18.560 Those are all property interests. 00:35:18.560 --> 00:35:21.840 Those are all things that are given to us individually. 00:35:21.840 --> 00:35:24.880 God says this is yours, no one else is supposed to mess 00:35:24.880 --> 00:35:27.920 with it, and the law of God and the law of man 00:35:27.920 --> 00:35:31.280 is supposed to preserve those property interests. 00:35:31.280 --> 00:35:35.040 Jealously. We're supposed to jealously guard that which is ours. 00:35:35.040 --> 00:35:37.520 Which, as I said, it's not mine mine mine. 00:35:37.520 --> 00:35:41.120 It's God gave this to me, therefore this is mine, I will 00:35:41.120 --> 00:35:44.720 guard it, I will be zealous for it, because it's from the 00:35:44.720 --> 00:35:45.600 Lord. 00:35:45.920 --> 00:35:46.160 When 00:35:46.160 --> 00:35:49.680 it comes to the two terms that we have as mentioned in 00:35:49.920 --> 00:35:54.960 English English jealous and zealous essentially the reason is because the former 00:35:54.960 --> 00:35:56.000 passed through French. 00:35:56.000 --> 00:35:59.280 So we can blame the French for changing that Z to a 00:35:59.280 --> 00:36:00.320 J over time. 00:36:00.320 --> 00:36:03.200 I believe first it was a G in French, but at any 00:36:03.200 --> 00:36:04.240 rate that's why we have that. 00:36:04.240 --> 00:36:04.800 We just took them from 00:36:05.920 --> 00:36:11.360 two different languages ultimately from Latin and Greek. 00:36:11.360 --> 00:36:15.520 But as Wo said, they are essentially the same term with a 00:36:15.520 --> 00:36:19.520 little bit of different nuance, and that's important and worth restating so 00:36:19.520 --> 00:36:21.520 you can bear that in mind. 00:36:21.520 --> 00:36:27.760 But when someone tries to denigrate being zealous for the faith, immediately 00:36:27.840 --> 00:36:32.240 what should come to mind, of course, is Psalm sixty nine for 00:36:32.240 --> 00:36:36.240 zeal for your house has consumed me, and the reproaches of those 00:36:36.240 --> 00:36:40.160 who reproach you have fallen on me, and of course that is 00:36:40.160 --> 00:36:47.360 also cited, quoted in John 2, of Christ, incidentally, so those 00:36:47.360 --> 00:36:51.120 who would attack zeal as being a negative thing should fear if 00:36:51.120 --> 00:36:54.960 they think that it is, because again, it is one of the 00:36:55.360 --> 00:37:01.280 names of God jealous, and zeal is mentioned as an attribute of 00:37:01.280 --> 00:37:06.480 Christ. And yes, we are supposed to emulate Christ. 00:37:06.480 --> 00:37:10.480 No, we can't emulate him perfectly, but we are supposed to emulate 00:37:10.480 --> 00:37:13.040 Christ. I know that there are those who will try to argue 00:37:13.040 --> 00:37:14.640 that, oh, you think you're Jesus. 00:37:14.640 --> 00:37:16.000 No, that's not it. 00:37:16.000 --> 00:37:17.920 He's the perfect example. 00:37:17.920 --> 00:37:21.040 We are supposed to attempt to live up to the example, and 00:37:21.360 --> 00:37:24.800 part of that is zeal. 00:37:24.800 --> 00:37:29.360 And I know that Woe just went over the Ten Commandments briefly 00:37:29.440 --> 00:37:31.680 there, but I would actually like to go over them in a 00:37:31.680 --> 00:37:33.760 little greater length because 00:37:35.120 --> 00:37:39.920 there are a number of different ways that you can assess the 00:37:39.920 --> 00:37:42.560 Ten Commandments, as it were, go through the Ten Commandments. 00:37:42.560 --> 00:37:45.680 There are different lenses you can use to examine them. 00:37:45.680 --> 00:37:48.080 One, of course, would be theft, because essentially 00:37:49.280 --> 00:37:53.040 all of the commandments relate to theft. 00:37:53.040 --> 00:37:57.680 The ninth and the tenth relate to thinking about theft, desiring to 00:37:57.680 --> 00:38:00.560 thieve, but they all relate to theft. 00:38:00.960 --> 00:38:03.920 Another way that you can look at them is through the lens 00:38:03.920 --> 00:38:08.240 of jealousy, because they all relate to jealousy. 00:38:08.240 --> 00:38:11.120 I will use the traditional numbering of the commandments. 00:38:11.120 --> 00:38:13.840 I trust that those who do not follow that numbering can can 00:38:13.840 --> 00:38:16.320 change the numbers in their mind while they listen. 00:38:16.320 --> 00:38:20.960 The first commandment, of course, thou shalt have no other gods. 00:38:20.960 --> 00:38:25.040 God is jealous of his honor and glory, and he will not 00:38:25.040 --> 00:38:26.400 have it shared. 00:38:26.400 --> 00:38:29.520 He will not have it misdirected. 00:38:29.520 --> 00:38:33.040 The second commandment thou shalt not take the name of the Lord 00:38:33.040 --> 00:38:34.640 thy God in vain. 00:38:34.640 --> 00:38:38.160 God is jealous of his name and of the use of his 00:38:38.320 --> 00:38:41.040 name. He will not have it abused, he will have it rightly 00:38:41.040 --> 00:38:47.200 used. The third commandment, thou shalt sanctify the holy day. 00:38:47.200 --> 00:38:51.200 God is jealous of his public honor and praise, and and of 00:38:51.200 --> 00:38:55.600 his ordering of creation, and how that order plays out in the 00:38:55.600 --> 00:38:58.320 lives of his creatures. 00:38:58.320 --> 00:39:02.960 The fourth commandment, thou shalt honor thy father and thy mother. 00:39:02.960 --> 00:39:07.200 God is jealous of his ordering of human affairs, and parents are 00:39:07.200 --> 00:39:11.760 to be jealous of their honour, which is rightly theirs, because of 00:39:11.760 --> 00:39:15.520 the office because of the station given them by God in his 00:39:15.680 --> 00:39:21.520 ordering of creation The fifth commandment, thou shalt not kill. 00:39:21.520 --> 00:39:25.760 We are to be jealous of the life God has given us, 00:39:25.760 --> 00:39:29.120 and we are to be jealous for the lives of others, because 00:39:29.120 --> 00:39:32.800 God has given those to them and they are rightly jealous of 00:39:32.800 --> 00:39:35.040 their own lives. 00:39:35.040 --> 00:39:38.160 The sixth commandment thou shalt not commit adultery. 00:39:38.160 --> 00:39:39.680 We've gone over this one, of course. 00:39:39.680 --> 00:39:42.720 We are to be jealous of the wife God has given us. 00:39:42.720 --> 00:39:45.440 If you have a wife, of course. 00:39:45.440 --> 00:39:47.920 And we are also to be jealous for 00:39:48.800 --> 00:39:52.560 the wives, the spouses of others, we are not to sin against 00:39:52.560 --> 00:39:58.720 those others, by being envious, by injecting strife into their marriages we 00:39:58.720 --> 00:40:04.000 are supposed to help our neighbour keep his wife, not subvert that 00:40:04.000 --> 00:40:06.320 marriage, not destroy it. 00:40:06.320 --> 00:40:10.880 Let not man separate what God is brought together. 00:40:10.880 --> 00:40:14.640 The seventh commandment Thou shalt not steal. 00:40:14.640 --> 00:40:17.600 We are to be jealous of the goods God has given us, 00:40:17.600 --> 00:40:20.800 of the things that He has given us in this life, of 00:40:20.800 --> 00:40:23.680 the blessings that He has bestowed upon us. 00:40:23.680 --> 00:40:28.240 We are to be jealous of those, because they are from God. 00:40:28.240 --> 00:40:33.040 Similarly, the eighth commandment, thou shalt not bear false witness against thy 00:40:33.040 --> 00:40:36.560 neighbor. We are to be jealous of the name or reputation God 00:40:36.560 --> 00:40:37.840 has given us. 00:40:37.840 --> 00:40:42.000 As God is jealous of His name, His reputation, His honor, His 00:40:42.000 --> 00:40:45.360 glory, we are to be jealous of the lesser version of those 00:40:45.360 --> 00:40:48.320 that He has bestowed on us in this life. 00:40:50.080 --> 00:40:54.080 And then the ninth and tenth commandments are of course both thou 00:40:54.080 --> 00:40:57.920 shalt not covet, the first, the ninth having to deal with real 00:40:57.920 --> 00:41:02.080 property, and the tenth having to deal with personal property or chattels. 00:41:02.400 --> 00:41:05.760 It's all that chattel means, it's personal property. 00:41:05.760 --> 00:41:09.280 Thou shalt not covet thy neighbour's house, thou shalt not covet thy 00:41:09.280 --> 00:41:13.040 neighbour's wife, nor his manservant, nor his maid servant, nor his cattle, 00:41:13.040 --> 00:41:15.600 nor anything that is his. 00:41:15.600 --> 00:41:17.120 We are not to be envious of 00:41:18.000 --> 00:41:23.040 our neighbor, or covetous of his property, real or personal, and the 00:41:23.040 --> 00:41:26.320 reason for that, of course, is that he is rightfully jealous of 00:41:26.320 --> 00:41:27.440 those things. 00:41:27.440 --> 00:41:30.800 And so it is a repetition to some degree of the earlier 00:41:30.800 --> 00:41:35.760 commandments. But of course there's a difference in what is being prohibited 00:41:35.760 --> 00:41:36.800 by these commandments. 00:41:36.800 --> 00:41:41.600 But when it comes to jealousy, this is really sort of envy 00:41:41.600 --> 00:41:43.520 for the ninth and tenth commandment. 00:41:43.520 --> 00:41:45.440 It's not exactly jealousy. 00:41:45.440 --> 00:41:49.120 Our neighbor is jealous of those things because they are rightfully his. 00:41:49.120 --> 00:41:51.680 We are not to be envious of them, we are not to 00:41:51.680 --> 00:41:54.560 be covetous of them, we are not to desire to have those 00:41:54.560 --> 00:41:58.320 things, and so envious of him and covetous of the things. 00:41:58.320 --> 00:42:02.080 That's the distinction between those two terms to use them carefully, which 00:42:02.080 --> 00:42:04.000 is what we should be doing. 00:42:04.000 --> 00:42:07.040 And so we can look at these commandments from God, the Ten 00:42:07.120 --> 00:42:12.160 Commandments, and see that they all relate to jealousy. 00:42:12.160 --> 00:42:15.840 This is a central matter, this is a matter of importance in 00:42:15.840 --> 00:42:19.920 the Christian faith and in the Christian life, which is really what 00:42:19.920 --> 00:42:20.800 we are focusing on. 00:42:21.120 --> 00:42:22.560 How do you live as a Christian? 00:42:22.560 --> 00:42:25.840 What do you do as a Christian in this world, in this 00:42:25.840 --> 00:42:27.440 life? How do you behave? 00:42:27.440 --> 00:42:28.560 What do you believe? 00:42:28.560 --> 00:42:30.960 What do you oppose? 00:42:30.960 --> 00:42:35.040 Jealousy is central to this, and that's one of the reasons that 00:42:35.040 --> 00:42:38.000 Satan has been attacking it for so long and so consistently, and 00:42:38.000 --> 00:42:40.480 quite frankly, he's done a very good job. 00:42:40.480 --> 00:42:44.720 Because if you ask almost anyone, any modern English speaker, and I 00:42:45.040 --> 00:42:48.240 suspect it's the same for most other languages as well. 00:42:48.240 --> 00:42:50.320 Is jealousy good or bad? 00:42:50.320 --> 00:42:52.640 Most people will say bad. 00:42:52.640 --> 00:42:57.920 Except that's false, because jealousy is actually primarily good. 00:42:57.920 --> 00:43:03.280 It does have that minor subsidiary negative sense that was already mentioned. 00:43:03.280 --> 00:43:05.840 But jealousy is a good thing. 00:43:05.840 --> 00:43:07.520 It cannot be otherwise. 00:43:07.520 --> 00:43:10.160 It is one of the names of God. 00:43:10.160 --> 00:43:10.960 God is a jealous 00:43:11.920 --> 00:43:18.960 God. Another way that this plays out, and this is in regard 00:43:18.960 --> 00:43:23.920 to living the Christian life and opposing things that are anti-Christian, if 00:43:23.920 --> 00:43:28.480 you look at essentially all of the modern so-called sins and look 00:43:28.480 --> 00:43:33.440 at them through the lens of jealousy, virtually all of them are 00:43:33.680 --> 00:43:37.520 condemnations of rightful jealousy. 00:43:37.840 --> 00:43:45.040 And so for instance, accusations of racism are virtually always a condemnation 00:43:45.040 --> 00:43:50.320 of the rightful jealousy that one has for one's nation, ancestry, heritage, 00:43:50.720 --> 00:43:58.240 history. Condemnations of nationalism are similar to the condemnations of racism, 00:43:58.240 --> 00:44:01.840 but with the slight distinction there being that it is also a 00:44:01.840 --> 00:44:05.920 condemnation of the rightful jealousy that one feels for one's country in 00:44:05.920 --> 00:44:09.200 addition to nation, ancestors, etc. 00:44:09.200 --> 00:44:15.760 Sexism is a condemnation of the rightful jealousy for God's created order 00:44:15.760 --> 00:44:21.760 with regard to the sexes, and jealousy of our place in it. 00:44:21.760 --> 00:44:26.160 Because each of us, according to his or her sex, has a 00:44:26.160 --> 00:44:29.360 proper place, a proper place a proper role, a proper set of 00:44:29.360 --> 00:44:31.760 duties in this life. 00:44:31.760 --> 00:44:37.040 Accusations of sexism are always designed to subvert that, because they are 00:44:37.040 --> 00:44:40.960 a condemnation of that rightful jealousy. 00:44:40.960 --> 00:44:41.920 Opposing immigration 00:44:43.040 --> 00:44:44.160 is condemned. 00:44:44.160 --> 00:44:49.600 Why? Because it is rightful jealousy for one's country, countrymen, borders. 00:44:49.600 --> 00:44:51.520 Remember, borders are set by God. 00:44:51.520 --> 00:44:54.400 Scripture is explicit on that point. 00:44:54.400 --> 00:45:00.720 And on the inverse of that, supporting immigration is a wrongful lack 00:45:00.720 --> 00:45:05.040 of jealousy for one's country and countrymen and borders, for the things 00:45:05.040 --> 00:45:07.680 that God has given to us. 00:45:07.680 --> 00:45:11.520 Because we're not just supposed to be jealous of the things that 00:45:11.520 --> 00:45:12.880 are ours. 00:45:12.880 --> 00:45:15.760 We are also supposed to be jealous for the things that are 00:45:15.760 --> 00:45:18.000 rightfully others. 00:45:18.000 --> 00:45:23.280 And so with regards to our countrymen, our nation, our country, the 00:45:23.280 --> 00:45:26.800 land that God has given us, we are to be jealous of 00:45:26.800 --> 00:45:31.760 and for that, of insofar as it is ours, because God has 00:45:31.760 --> 00:45:37.120 given it to us, and for insofar as it belongs to our 00:45:37.120 --> 00:45:43.120 fellows. We're not supposed to just be concerned for ourselves. 00:45:43.120 --> 00:45:44.560 That's not the Christian life. 00:45:44.560 --> 00:45:47.520 That is not how God is created us. 00:45:47.520 --> 00:45:51.840 If God wanted us to be some sort of er individual, some 00:45:51.840 --> 00:45:56.800 sort of standalone entity, an island unto ourselves, he would have raised 00:45:56.800 --> 00:45:59.920 us all up individually from the soil. 00:46:00.080 --> 00:46:03.120 uh humans would just spring up from the ground and start walking 00:46:03.120 --> 00:46:05.520 around. He didn't do that. 00:46:05.520 --> 00:46:09.440 He designed it so that each and every one of us is 00:46:09.440 --> 00:46:14.400 innately and inseparably linked to others in a chain back through time. 00:46:14.880 --> 00:46:19.360 All the way to the sons of Noah, through Noah, back to 00:46:19.360 --> 00:46:22.560 Adam, through Adam to God. 00:46:22.560 --> 00:46:26.080 That is the way God designed it. 00:46:26.080 --> 00:46:29.920 We have duties that flow from that, and we have jealousies that 00:46:29.920 --> 00:46:33.520 flow rightfully from that, good jealousies. 00:46:33.520 --> 00:46:36.960 Because these are things God has given us and we are supposed 00:46:36.960 --> 00:46:39.040 to defend them in this life. 00:46:39.040 --> 00:46:42.400 And so no, I don't have some sort of pass, I just 00:46:42.560 --> 00:46:46.560 I'm concerned for myself and not for the rest of my nation. 00:46:46.560 --> 00:46:49.680 No, that's not how God designed things. 00:46:49.680 --> 00:46:54.160 I should be jealous of the things that are mine, for the 00:46:54.160 --> 00:46:56.640 things that belong to others. 00:46:56.640 --> 00:47:00.640 And yes, there are concentric circles here with regard to the level 00:47:00.640 --> 00:47:02.480 of concern that I should have. 00:47:02.480 --> 00:47:06.160 I should be more concerned, more jealous for the things that belong 00:47:06.160 --> 00:47:09.760 to my immediate family, and then for the things that belong to 00:47:09.760 --> 00:47:14.720 my cousins, otherwise known as a clan or tribe, up to the 00:47:14.720 --> 00:47:16.560 level of nation. 00:47:16.560 --> 00:47:18.880 That is how God has designed it. 00:47:18.880 --> 00:47:21.680 And that is how we are to live as Christians in this 00:47:21.680 --> 00:47:25.840 life. And we see all sorts of perversions of this that are 00:47:25.840 --> 00:47:31.680 essentially denials of the existence of rightful jealousy, another prime example would 00:47:31.680 --> 00:47:33.600 be pacifism. 00:47:33.600 --> 00:47:38.800 Because passivism is a denial of the rightful jealousy that one feels 00:47:38.800 --> 00:47:44.800 for one's nation and for one's fellow citizen, for one's fellow countrymen. 00:47:44.800 --> 00:47:48.800 Because the pacifist refuses to defend the things that God has given 00:47:48.800 --> 00:47:50.880 him, and that is sin. 00:47:50.880 --> 00:47:57.680 Christians cannot be pacifists, that is high handed, impenetent sin. 00:47:57.680 --> 00:48:01.200 Particularly when it comes to men, there are things that God has 00:48:01.200 --> 00:48:05.040 given you, and not only are you to be thankful for them, 00:48:05.040 --> 00:48:07.840 jealous of them, but you are to defend them, you have duty 00:48:07.840 --> 00:48:11.360 to be Duties with regard to them. 00:48:11.360 --> 00:48:16.000 And if we deny the role that jealousy plays in this, then 00:48:16.000 --> 00:48:17.920 essentially we are doing a number of things. 00:48:17.920 --> 00:48:20.960 We're telling God, I don't care about the gifts you have given 00:48:20.960 --> 00:48:25.040 me. We're saying we won't defend the gifts he has given us. 00:48:25.040 --> 00:48:29.280 And really what we're doing is we're risking apostasy. 00:48:29.280 --> 00:48:31.920 And I know that there are those who will say that you 00:48:31.920 --> 00:48:35.200 guys always mention apostasy and you make all of these issues into 00:48:35.200 --> 00:48:36.320 a big deal. 00:48:38.240 --> 00:48:40.400 There are a number of things that I could say about that. 00:48:40.400 --> 00:48:43.920 First, I would start with there are no small sins. 00:48:43.920 --> 00:48:46.080 Yes, there are sins that are greater than others, and there are 00:48:46.080 --> 00:48:47.520 sins that are lesser than others. 00:48:47.520 --> 00:48:48.640 It's very clear from that. 00:48:48.640 --> 00:48:53.280 We see Christ explicitly saying that when he is speaking to Pilate. 00:48:53.280 --> 00:48:56.880 But no sin is a small matter, because every sin incurs an 00:48:56.880 --> 00:49:01.040 infinite debt on behalf of the sinner against God 00:49:02.960 --> 00:49:04.960 That's not a minor matter. 00:49:04.960 --> 00:49:10.000 If there were one sin, even the smallest of sins, perhaps taking 00:49:10.000 --> 00:49:12.720 an apple from a tree, of course there's the attached sin to 00:49:12.720 --> 00:49:16.240 that of defying God, but if it were just the apple, just 00:49:16.240 --> 00:49:20.800 that One of the smallest sins imaginable, stealing a stick of gum 00:49:20.800 --> 00:49:25.840 would be probably the modern equivalent that's often used as an example. 00:49:25.840 --> 00:49:28.240 That would be enough to separate 00:49:29.440 --> 00:49:32.160 that man and his line from God. 00:49:32.160 --> 00:49:34.960 Now, in the case of the apple or the forbidden fruit, it's 00:49:34.880 --> 00:49:37.520 Adam, so it separated all of humanity. 00:49:37.520 --> 00:49:39.520 And so that's the first point. 00:49:39.520 --> 00:49:42.800 There's no such thing as a minor sin. 00:49:42.800 --> 00:49:48.400 But the other point is that what we discuss on this podcast, 00:49:48.400 --> 00:49:52.080 what we're discussing in this episode with regard to jealousy, is how 00:49:52.080 --> 00:49:55.200 you live a Christian life. 00:49:55.200 --> 00:49:57.600 And ultimately, maybe you 00:49:58.560 --> 00:50:04.720 would not become apostate if you reject jealousy, if you ignore these 00:50:04.720 --> 00:50:09.680 matters. But that isn't the concern, and quite frankly, there's almost an 00:50:09.680 --> 00:50:14.400 irony here because it's directly jealousy that guards against the outcome I'm 00:50:14.400 --> 00:50:16.800 going to describe. 00:50:16.800 --> 00:50:22.000 The question is: what happens to your son, or your grandson, or 00:50:22.000 --> 00:50:25.120 your great-grandson, or your great-great-grandson? 00:50:25.120 --> 00:50:29.680 What happens not tomorrow, but next decade, next century, a thousand years 00:50:29.680 --> 00:50:30.640 in the future? 00:50:30.640 --> 00:50:36.000 Christians shouldn't be thinking in terms of, well, this won't affect my 00:50:36.000 --> 00:50:39.360 life. No Christian thinks that way. 00:50:39.360 --> 00:50:42.800 You are not a Christian insofar as you are thinking in that 00:50:42.800 --> 00:50:45.200 way. Can you still be a Christian ultimately? 00:50:45.440 --> 00:50:49.360 Of course, because you can still believe in Christ. 00:50:49.360 --> 00:50:49.680 But 00:50:50.640 --> 00:50:54.320 you are not behaving and thinking as a Christian, insofar as you 00:50:54.320 --> 00:50:56.400 are thinking only of yourself. 00:50:56.400 --> 00:50:59.280 And so for instance, to go back to the issue of immigration, 00:50:59.280 --> 00:51:00.720 you may think, oh, what does it matter? 00:51:00.720 --> 00:51:02.880 It's not affecting the country, it's not a big deal. 00:51:02.880 --> 00:51:06.960 There's just a slight change in the demographics and these other things, 00:51:06.960 --> 00:51:07.840 etc. 00:51:08.960 --> 00:51:13.360 The problem is what happens a hundred years in the future. 00:51:13.360 --> 00:51:18.720 What kind of world are you passing on to your great-grandchildren? 00:51:18.720 --> 00:51:20.880 Because that is the Christian mindset. 00:51:20.880 --> 00:51:23.200 The Christian mindset is generational 00:51:24.560 --> 00:51:27.840 and you should be jealous of the things that are yours, which 00:51:27.840 --> 00:51:32.880 includes your family line in both directions, and you should be jealous 00:51:32.880 --> 00:51:37.680 for the things that will be the inheritance of those who come 00:51:37.680 --> 00:51:42.240 after you, and we will obviously be doing inheritance very soon, as 00:51:42.240 --> 00:51:47.120 a separate but related matter. 00:51:47.120 --> 00:51:50.880 And so when some would say that these issues are minor, and 00:51:50.880 --> 00:51:56.240 so we shouldn't say there's a risk of apostasy, quite frankly, it 00:51:56.240 --> 00:51:58.880 makes us just have to double down. 00:51:58.880 --> 00:52:03.520 Because any sin, if you ignore it, if you claim it as 00:52:03.520 --> 00:52:08.240 your own, if it becomes a high-handed, impenitent sin, that is now 00:52:08.240 --> 00:52:09.840 a damning sin. 00:52:11.120 --> 00:52:14.560 Yes, when we pray for forgiveness of sins, we obviously pray for 00:52:14.560 --> 00:52:17.840 all the sins we commit of which we are unaware, and there 00:52:17.840 --> 00:52:22.000 are undoubtedly many of those who can number his sins, as the 00:52:22.000 --> 00:52:25.840 Psalmist says. 00:52:25.840 --> 00:52:29.520 But there is a fundamental difference between a sin of which one 00:52:29.520 --> 00:52:34.800 is unaware, which one does not recognize as sin, and something of 00:52:34.800 --> 00:52:38.240 which one has been made aware that it is sin and yet 00:52:38.240 --> 00:52:39.600 holds on to it. 00:52:40.000 --> 00:52:44.160 keeps practicing it, does not repent of it. 00:52:44.160 --> 00:52:48.480 Go and see the episode on repentance. 00:52:48.480 --> 00:52:51.920 And so if you listen to what we're saying in this episode 00:52:52.080 --> 00:52:56.000 and you recognize the reality of what jealousy is, or you just 00:52:56.000 --> 00:52:59.040 read scripture and see that one of the names of God is 00:52:59.280 --> 00:53:04.800 jealous. And yet you decide, well, no, I'm going to continue believing 00:53:04.800 --> 00:53:08.560 that jealousy is always negative and always a Always a sin. 00:53:08.560 --> 00:53:13.440 It has become impenitent sin, and that is why it rises to 00:53:13.440 --> 00:53:17.040 the level of risking apostasy. 00:53:17.040 --> 00:53:19.120 So you may think, well, why would I want to learn these 00:53:19.120 --> 00:53:22.560 things? Because if I learn these things, then I'm on the hook, 00:53:22.560 --> 00:53:23.920 as it were. 00:53:23.920 --> 00:53:26.080 Because now I know that it's sin. 00:53:26.080 --> 00:53:29.760 And the reason for that is as a Christian you should desire 00:53:30.080 --> 00:53:35.840 to gain a deeper understanding of God's truth, to continue your walk 00:53:35.840 --> 00:53:41.040 with God, and to continue removing sins from your life as you 00:53:41.040 --> 00:53:45.040 recognize them, that is in large part what sanctification is. 00:53:45.120 --> 00:53:51.840 is. The Spirit leads you, through God's Word, to recognize more and 00:53:51.840 --> 00:53:56.960 more things in your life that need work, either their sin in 00:53:56.960 --> 00:54:01.200 themselves or their being conducted in a sinful way, or you haven't 00:54:01.120 --> 00:54:03.280 considered some aspect of it. 00:54:03.280 --> 00:54:07.680 Whatever it happens to be, that is sanctification, that is the Christian 00:54:07.680 --> 00:54:12.640 life. And so recognizing these things that are sin is an important 00:54:12.640 --> 00:54:13.840 part of that. 00:54:13.760 --> 00:54:17.280 And when you recognize something that is sin, yes, of course there's 00:54:17.280 --> 00:54:21.520 going to be the lament over the fact that I've been sinning 00:54:21.760 --> 00:54:23.920 and I didn't even know it. 00:54:23.920 --> 00:54:26.960 It's like when they found the scriptures hidden in a wall in 00:54:26.960 --> 00:54:28.160 the temple. 00:54:28.400 --> 00:54:30.560 The king had no idea. 00:54:30.560 --> 00:54:32.960 He should have known for some of the things certainly, but he 00:54:32.960 --> 00:54:36.560 had no idea about some of the things he was doing and 00:54:36.560 --> 00:54:41.840 his nation was doing there were sin, and he lamented that fact. 00:54:41.840 --> 00:54:44.560 But he repented because he turned from it. 00:54:44.560 --> 00:54:45.840 And that's the important part. 00:54:45.840 --> 00:54:49.200 You learn about it, you repent, which is to turn from it, 00:54:49.200 --> 00:54:53.600 to think differently about it, and then you amend your ways, and 00:54:53.600 --> 00:54:57.920 you continue in that process of sanctification. 00:54:57.920 --> 00:55:05.600 Because with regard to sanctification, Christianity, this The scriptures teach synergism. 00:55:05.600 --> 00:55:09.920 With regard to justification, the scriptures teach monergism. 00:55:09.920 --> 00:55:13.760 You are justified by God's act alone. 00:55:13.760 --> 00:55:15.680 You play no role in it. 00:55:15.680 --> 00:55:20.640 In fact, you are, if anything, an obstacle, because you oppose God 00:55:20.640 --> 00:55:22.880 before you are converted. 00:55:22.880 --> 00:55:27.680 But once you are converted, once you are walking with God, once 00:55:27.680 --> 00:55:31.600 you are participating in the Christian life and growing in that Christian 00:55:31.600 --> 00:55:34.560 life, you are being sanctified. 00:55:34.560 --> 00:55:38.960 And part of that is recognizing things that you didn't actually believe 00:55:38.960 --> 00:55:40.720 beforehand were sin. 00:55:40.720 --> 00:55:41.600 You just didn't notice them. 00:55:41.600 --> 00:55:44.800 You didn't think about them, you weren't paying close attention when you 00:55:44.800 --> 00:55:47.760 read through whatever book of scripture. 00:55:47.760 --> 00:55:51.840 And now that you know you repent, you turn from that evil, 00:55:51.840 --> 00:55:53.520 and you amend your ways. 00:55:53.520 --> 00:55:58.160 That's the Christian life, and that's why these things are important. 00:55:58.960 --> 00:55:59.200 I 00:55:59.200 --> 00:56:03.200 want to spend just a couple more minutes talking about the specific 00:56:03.200 --> 00:56:07.520 word that's used in scripture when God gives his name as jealous. 00:56:07.520 --> 00:56:12.160 The word that's used both in Exodus and in Galatians and Greek 00:56:12.400 --> 00:56:13.920 is zealos. 00:56:13.920 --> 00:56:18.160 That's the root of the word that is used there, which is 00:56:18.640 --> 00:56:20.320 in English zeal. 00:56:20.320 --> 00:56:25.760 So zeal, jealousy, again, they're all coming from the same place. 00:56:25.760 --> 00:56:27.920 Zeal is interesting. 00:56:28.720 --> 00:56:32.800 The definition of the Greek word here is interesting because the root 00:56:32.800 --> 00:56:35.600 literally means hot enough to boil. 00:56:35.600 --> 00:56:40.400 It's metaphorically used in burning anger, love, or zeal to burn in 00:56:40.400 --> 00:56:43.840 spirit. It's a passion. 00:56:43.840 --> 00:56:47.440 It is not simply thinking and And 00:56:48.320 --> 00:56:53.040 this is again important when we're evaluating the modern context where we 00:56:53.040 --> 00:56:58.000 see things for which God commands us to be zealous or jealous. 00:56:58.000 --> 00:57:01.440 As Corey just went through a number of examples, including things like 00:57:02.160 --> 00:57:05.760 national borders and opposing immigration. 00:57:05.760 --> 00:57:09.120 We are to be jealous of the land that God has given 00:57:09.120 --> 00:57:10.640 us. It's ours. 00:57:10.640 --> 00:57:15.280 It is entirely morally licit for me to say, this place is 00:57:15.280 --> 00:57:18.160 mine. It is not yours. 00:57:18.160 --> 00:57:20.720 Just as you can say that about your pretty wife. 00:57:20.720 --> 00:57:23.440 And if some jerk comes along and tries to interfere with your 00:57:23.440 --> 00:57:25.440 relationship, you step in and you deal with it. 00:57:26.400 --> 00:57:31.680 And if you demonstrate zeal, if you demonstrate passion, well, that means 00:57:31.680 --> 00:57:32.880 you're obeying God. 00:57:32.880 --> 00:57:33.600 And you know what? 00:57:33.600 --> 00:57:36.000 If you do the opposite, if you're not jealous of your wife 00:57:36.000 --> 00:57:40.000 in that circumstance, if you're passionless, she's gonna stop loving you, your 00:57:40.160 --> 00:57:41.360 marriage will end. 00:57:41.360 --> 00:57:44.720 It is a test, and it is one that is past fail 00:57:45.120 --> 00:57:49.680 both in life and morally. 00:57:49.680 --> 00:57:54.800 Looking back to the passage in John 2, which referenced Psalm 69, 00:57:54.800 --> 00:57:58.160 this is a perfect example of what I'm talking about. 00:57:58.160 --> 00:58:01.360 The Passover of the Jews was at hand, and Jesus went up 00:58:01.360 --> 00:58:02.240 to Jerusalem. 00:58:02.240 --> 00:58:05.280 In the temple, he found those who were selling oxen and sheep 00:58:05.280 --> 00:58:08.960 and pigeons and the money changers sitting there, and making a whip 00:58:08.960 --> 00:58:11.600 of cords he drove them all out of the temple with the 00:58:11.600 --> 00:58:14.320 sheep and the oxen, and he poured out the coins of the 00:58:14.320 --> 00:58:18.080 money changers and overturned their tables, and he said to those who 00:58:18.080 --> 00:58:22.000 sold the pigeons, Take these things away, do not make my father's 00:58:22.000 --> 00:58:23.840 house a house of trade. 00:58:23.840 --> 00:58:27.920 His disciples remembered that it was written, Zeal for your house will 00:58:27.920 --> 00:58:28.800 consume me 00:58:30.320 --> 00:58:36.400 Now, when you know that God's name is jealous, for Christ to 00:58:36.400 --> 00:58:41.360 behave jealously in his father's house makes perfect sense. 00:58:41.360 --> 00:58:46.320 And as Psalm sixty-nine says and is quoted here, zeal for his 00:58:46.320 --> 00:58:47.600 house consumed him. 00:58:47.600 --> 00:58:52.960 This was passion, this was violent passion enacted by God in that 00:58:52.960 --> 00:58:56.880 place in that moment against brazen wickedness in the Lord's house. 00:58:57.360 --> 00:59:02.080 Those wicked money changers were trespassers in a holy place. 00:59:02.080 --> 00:59:06.880 When Christ overthrew those tables and drove them off with a whip, 00:59:06.880 --> 00:59:10.480 he did it violently because they were trespassing on what belonged to 00:59:11.120 --> 00:59:14.800 him, because it belonged to his father. 00:59:14.800 --> 00:59:16.240 That's jealousy. 00:59:16.240 --> 00:59:17.520 Pure jealousy. 00:59:17.520 --> 00:59:18.720 It's zealous. 00:59:18.720 --> 00:59:22.240 It's pure everything that we're talking about here. 00:59:22.240 --> 00:59:23.360 And it's righteous. 00:59:24.160 --> 00:59:26.880 I think this is crucial for us again and when we're looking 00:59:26.880 --> 00:59:29.920 at current year and we're looking at all the things that are 00:59:29.920 --> 00:59:33.680 happening along all these various axes in the world and our lives 00:59:33.760 --> 00:59:35.280 and our churches. 00:59:35.280 --> 00:59:40.000 What's the one common thing that everyone's always gonna say? 00:59:40.000 --> 00:59:42.560 Calm down, let's talk about it. 00:59:42.560 --> 00:59:44.240 We need to be peaceful. 00:59:44.240 --> 00:59:46.000 Don't get upset. 00:59:46.000 --> 00:59:48.240 You can't be zealous for this stuff. 00:59:48.400 --> 00:59:49.440 That's immature. 00:59:49.440 --> 00:59:53.600 You settle down, you simmer down, don't let yourself get worked up 00:59:53.600 --> 00:59:54.640 about this stuff. 00:59:54.640 --> 00:59:56.720 Right? That's always the case. 00:59:56.720 --> 01:00:00.240 Whatever is going on, you have to remain calm. 01:00:00.240 --> 01:00:05.200 Now me chiefly among all men am perfectly fine with remaining calm. 01:00:05.200 --> 01:00:07.280 I'm calm in the worst situations. 01:00:07.280 --> 01:00:11.840 I get more calm the worse a situation get. 01:00:11.840 --> 01:00:16.880 That doesn't change the fact that it is entirely permissible in certain 01:00:16.880 --> 01:00:19.920 circumstances for men to get fired up. 01:00:19.920 --> 01:00:22.320 And one of the things that we're seeing in the world is 01:00:22.320 --> 01:00:25.920 that men who maybe don't have all the moral ducks in a 01:00:25.920 --> 01:00:30.000 row, maybe they don't understand the theology, they don't have the proof 01:00:30.000 --> 01:00:34.320 texts for whatever their feeling, whatever their passion is for their homeland. 01:00:34.320 --> 01:00:36.480 They still have a zeal for the thing that God has given 01:00:36.480 --> 01:00:38.320 them, that they know is their inheritance. 01:00:38.320 --> 01:00:41.040 Even if they're not Christians, they don't know any of this stuff, 01:00:41.040 --> 01:00:43.840 they still know that they were born here, that their parents have 01:00:43.840 --> 01:00:45.600 been here for ten generations. 01:00:45.600 --> 01:00:49.120 This is theirs, and they're fired up about defending it. 01:00:49.120 --> 01:00:52.000 And the world is saying, Oh, that's that's evil, that's bad, that's 01:00:52.000 --> 01:00:55.600 wicked. Some dude who just came from Somalia and landed in Columbus, 01:00:55.600 --> 01:00:56.720 he's just like you. 01:00:56.720 --> 01:00:58.080 He has every right to be here. 01:00:58.080 --> 01:00:59.920 He's just as American. 01:00:59.920 --> 01:01:03.840 You are rightfully angry at that, if that's your response. 01:01:03.840 --> 01:01:08.080 You are sinfully passive if that doesn't make you angry, because this 01:01:08.080 --> 01:01:08.960 is ours. 01:01:08.960 --> 01:01:10.480 It is not theirs. 01:01:10.480 --> 01:01:11.760 That's a real thing. 01:01:11.920 --> 01:01:15.200 That's the chief message I think of this episode. 01:01:15.200 --> 01:01:17.120 There's a such a thing as mine. 01:01:17.120 --> 01:01:19.440 And there's also such a thing as not mine. 01:01:19.440 --> 01:01:22.320 If I'm making eyes at your wife, I'm wicked. 01:01:22.320 --> 01:01:24.240 She's not mine, she's yours. 01:01:24.240 --> 01:01:27.680 I have no business thinking or doing or saying anything that would 01:01:27.680 --> 01:01:29.600 in any way interfere with that. 01:01:29.600 --> 01:01:32.400 You know, if you have a friend who has a wife, y 01:01:32.560 --> 01:01:35.360 girlfriend, whatever, you're still his wingman. 01:01:35.360 --> 01:01:38.560 You make sure that you prop up his a relationship, even if 01:01:38.560 --> 01:01:40.000 that means you don't look as good. 01:01:40.000 --> 01:01:41.440 Don't try to flex on him. 01:01:41.440 --> 01:01:42.560 Don't try to be funnier. 01:01:42.560 --> 01:01:46.480 Don't try to beat him in her eyes, because the worst case 01:01:46.480 --> 01:01:47.520 is she might notice. 01:01:47.520 --> 01:01:51.200 And then you've given there's some reason to be strife in a 01:01:51.200 --> 01:01:53.280 relationship. Don't ever do that. 01:01:53.280 --> 01:01:54.320 Do the opposite. 01:01:54.320 --> 01:01:57.920 Be zealous for what God has given him and her because they're 01:01:57.920 --> 01:01:59.840 a blessing to each other. 01:01:59.840 --> 01:02:02.560 The same is true of our country, same is true of our 01:02:02.560 --> 01:02:06.720 neighborhoods. If people are moving in and destroying them, we are rightfully 01:02:06.720 --> 01:02:08.880 zealous in opposing that. 01:02:08.880 --> 01:02:11.840 And at some point, just like Jesus and his zeal in the 01:02:12.320 --> 01:02:15.920 temple, it is going to boil over and it's not going to 01:02:15.920 --> 01:02:17.920 be a matter for discussion. 01:02:17.920 --> 01:02:20.960 And everything in the world is telling it that's completely impermissible. 01:02:20.960 --> 01:02:23.520 It's sinful, that's bad, don't ever do that. 01:02:23.840 --> 01:02:27.520 If you believe what God says about these things, then the men 01:02:27.520 --> 01:02:32.480 who are experiencing zeal today in the face of these assaults, it's 01:02:32.480 --> 01:02:34.000 a godly passion. 01:02:34.000 --> 01:02:38.160 It's not necessarily completely godly because they may well turn it into 01:02:38.560 --> 01:02:41.840 something very sinful because they don't understand all the other things that 01:02:41.840 --> 01:02:42.640 God says. 01:02:42.640 --> 01:02:45.760 But the impetus for saying this is mine and I'm not going 01:02:45.760 --> 01:02:49.440 to let someone else take it from me, that's Christian. 01:02:49.440 --> 01:02:51.120 It's completely Christian. 01:02:51.120 --> 01:02:53.920 The Ten Commandments establish that. 01:02:53.920 --> 01:02:58.320 And once we consider the world and the state of things within 01:02:58.320 --> 01:03:03.920 this framework of possessory interest and of property rights, it kinda makes 01:03:03.920 --> 01:03:06.400 sense all the things that are under attack. 01:03:06.400 --> 01:03:10.800 Because suddenly you look at the map of all the various ideas 01:03:10.800 --> 01:03:16.480 that are being shut down where masculinity and you know property rights 01:03:16.480 --> 01:03:20.640 are under attack with the WEF saying you'll own nothing and you'll 01:03:20.640 --> 01:03:21.520 be happy. 01:03:21.520 --> 01:03:24.160 That's a direct assault on this. 01:03:24.160 --> 01:03:28.000 It's not saying, you know, live a simpler life where you're not 01:03:28.000 --> 01:03:31.840 obsessed with physical things, that's fine. 01:03:31.840 --> 01:03:32.880 That's a good thing. 01:03:32.880 --> 01:03:34.240 Downsizing is a good thing. 01:03:34.240 --> 01:03:36.160 We have too much crap. 01:03:36.480 --> 01:03:39.680 On the other hand, when someone else comes along and says, Yeah, 01:03:39.680 --> 01:03:42.160 this thing that you thought was yours, we're going to take it 01:03:42.160 --> 01:03:42.480 from you. 01:03:42.480 --> 01:03:46.080 And you just we're going to anesthetize you with proof text or 01:03:46.080 --> 01:03:49.520 government programs or whatever it takes to keep you calm long enough 01:03:49.680 --> 01:03:51.600 that we can take it all away. 01:03:51.600 --> 01:03:54.640 They're not trying to make us more godly when they thing say 01:03:54.640 --> 01:03:57.760 things like you will have nothing and you'll be happy. 01:03:57.760 --> 01:04:00.560 They're trying to destroy what God has given to us. 01:04:00.560 --> 01:04:05.520 And a zealous response to that, a fiery response boiling over, is 01:04:05.520 --> 01:04:07.360 entirely appropriate. 01:04:07.360 --> 01:04:09.920 And any man who comes along and tells you different is an 01:04:09.920 --> 01:04:10.880 enemy of God. 01:04:10.880 --> 01:04:14.480 And unfortunately most of them are going to be pastors. 01:04:15.040 --> 01:04:17.440 I hate to say that sort of thing. 01:04:17.440 --> 01:04:20.480 It makes me deeply unhappy that we've are in a situation situation 01:04:20.480 --> 01:04:23.280 where most of the men who are getting this stuff wrong in 01:04:23.280 --> 01:04:25.760 God's name are the very men who are supposed to be getting 01:04:25.760 --> 01:04:26.640 this stuff right. 01:04:26.640 --> 01:04:29.760 But even in the circumstances where men who are supposed to say 01:04:29.760 --> 01:04:33.760 what God says lie about it, as Christians, we have to keep 01:04:33.760 --> 01:04:36.240 going. And if we have to put them behind us, or if 01:04:36.240 --> 01:04:38.480 we have to shut them up, or if we have to exclude 01:04:38.480 --> 01:04:41.440 them, or if we have to run them over, that's what's going 01:04:41.440 --> 01:04:42.240 to happen. 01:04:42.240 --> 01:04:47.040 Because the Christian duty doesn't end with some other guy lying to 01:04:47.040 --> 01:04:49.040 you about what God says. 01:04:49.040 --> 01:04:52.000 These are incredibly dangerous times because 01:04:53.040 --> 01:04:55.360 there's not a rule book for a lot of this stuff. 01:04:55.360 --> 01:05:00.720 There's not 16th century Reformation doctrine that says, well, when these things 01:05:01.200 --> 01:05:05.360 happen, here's what's appropriate and people been arguing over for centuries and 01:05:05.360 --> 01:05:08.800 we can all point and decide which guys we want to go 01:05:08.800 --> 01:05:11.280 with. There's really none of that. 01:05:11.280 --> 01:05:15.680 The civilizational point that we're at today, the one where we are 01:05:15.680 --> 01:05:19.040 told we cannot be jealous of anything, that there's no such thing 01:05:19.040 --> 01:05:22.480 as mine, has never happened before. 01:05:22.480 --> 01:05:25.040 It has historically been unthinkable. 01:05:25.040 --> 01:05:30.960 And frankly, the devolution and then destruction of jealousy as being exclusively 01:05:30.960 --> 01:05:37.280 evil and zeal being immature and fundamentally wicked in its own way. 01:05:37.280 --> 01:05:39.120 That's a satanic attack. 01:05:39.120 --> 01:05:41.200 Both of those things can be bad. 01:05:41.200 --> 01:05:44.400 We're not saying that jealousy is always good. 01:05:44.400 --> 01:05:47.040 Clearly. Jealousy is frequently evil. 01:05:47.040 --> 01:05:49.200 Why? Because men are frequently evil. 01:05:49.200 --> 01:05:51.680 We'll screw up anything that God gives us. 01:05:51.680 --> 01:05:54.000 But the bottom line is that there's a time and a cr 01:05:54.560 --> 01:05:58.800 place for every good man to be jealous, to demonstrate zeal for 01:05:58.800 --> 01:06:00.400 that which God has given him. 01:06:00.400 --> 01:06:03.840 And we're entering a period of time where all it's going to 01:06:03.840 --> 01:06:08.720 take is a little bit more hesitation before there's we've lost everything 01:06:08.720 --> 01:06:10.160 that was ours. 01:06:10.160 --> 01:06:10.480 And 01:06:11.440 --> 01:06:13.200 God will permit that. 01:06:13.200 --> 01:06:16.880 God has given us these things as stewards. 01:06:16.960 --> 01:06:19.360 You know, the things that I have, the things that you have, 01:06:19.360 --> 01:06:20.960 they're temporary. 01:06:20.960 --> 01:06:24.160 Eternal life is the only thing that God gives us that's eternal. 01:06:24.160 --> 01:06:27.600 And when we're resurrected, like everything gets put back together. 01:06:27.600 --> 01:06:30.960 But prior to resurrection, everything that we have is temporary. 01:06:30.960 --> 01:06:32.160 It's all gonna go away. 01:06:32.160 --> 01:06:34.640 And so while we have it, we're stewards of it. 01:06:34.640 --> 01:06:38.240 If we abdicate that stewardship, if we just torch it, if we 01:06:38.240 --> 01:06:41.600 give it away, if we don't treat what we received as an 01:06:41.600 --> 01:06:45.520 inheritance and then pass it on to the next generation, God's gonna 01:06:45.520 --> 01:06:47.760 be like fine, He'll take it away and He's gonna give it 01:06:47.760 --> 01:06:48.800 to someone else. 01:06:48.800 --> 01:06:51.520 That happens over and over again in scripture. 01:06:51.520 --> 01:06:54.560 If we want to be evil, if we want to abdicate our 01:06:54.560 --> 01:06:59.040 stewardship of God's gifts, instead of being jealous of them, he will 01:06:59.040 --> 01:07:02.480 replace us with men who will be faithful. 01:07:02.480 --> 01:07:05.760 That's not what we should want, that's not what we should tolerate. 01:07:05.760 --> 01:07:08.480 We should be jealous of what has been given to us, because 01:07:08.640 --> 01:07:12.000 God gave it to us, and no man can take it from 01:07:12.000 --> 01:07:15.600 us. That's a Christian thing to say, it's a Christian thing to 01:07:15.600 --> 01:07:20.720 think. And it's completely anathetical to all the politics, almost everything you 01:07:20.720 --> 01:07:24.960 hear in church, but it's not inconsistent with scripture. 01:07:24.960 --> 01:07:28.080 And that that should be terrifying. 01:07:28.320 --> 01:07:32.880 the fact that this is just basically absent from thought for a 01:07:32.880 --> 01:07:33.920 long time. 01:07:33.920 --> 01:07:35.920 When you go back and look at scripture, you can search on 01:07:35.920 --> 01:07:38.960 Bible HUD for jealous, jealousy, zeal. 01:07:38.960 --> 01:07:40.480 Look at all the passages. 01:07:40.640 --> 01:07:42.400 They're very consistent. 01:07:42.400 --> 01:07:46.080 That most of these things are frankly in scripture, most of them 01:07:46.080 --> 01:07:49.360 is generally a good thing because it's generally talking about God or 01:07:49.360 --> 01:07:52.000 about men who are faithful servants of God. 01:07:52.000 --> 01:07:55.600 The fact they can be abused does not change that there is 01:07:55.600 --> 01:07:59.760 a good, proper, and holy form of jealousy, and as Christians we 01:07:59.760 --> 01:08:01.680 are called upon to demonstrate 01:08:01.680 --> 01:08:02.720 it. As 01:08:02.720 --> 01:08:06.960 Wo said, there are a lot of issues that we are having 01:08:06.960 --> 01:08:11.680 to address, having to face these days, for which we do not 01:08:11.680 --> 01:08:16.000 have canned answers, as it were, from our forefathers in the faith, 01:08:16.000 --> 01:08:20.560 because these were not issues that they faced in their time. 01:08:20.560 --> 01:08:24.560 However, I would like to raise one exception to that. 01:08:24.560 --> 01:08:31.520 We have the Magdeburg Confession, from which we get the full treatment 01:08:31.760 --> 01:08:36.320 of the doctrine of the lesser magistrate and of resistance to tyranny. 01:08:36.320 --> 01:08:40.560 And I do recommend, I've recommended before, and I still recommend that 01:08:40.560 --> 01:08:44.480 the men on our side of these things read that. 01:08:44.480 --> 01:08:46.320 It is worth your time, it should be read. 01:08:46.320 --> 01:08:49.120 I'll put a link in the show notes. 01:08:49.120 --> 01:08:54.400 But in the Magdeburg Confession there are four levels of tyranny that 01:08:54.400 --> 01:09:00.640 are broken down, and the Christian response to each is given. 01:09:00.640 --> 01:09:06.800 The fourth level is essentially the incurable tyrant, the tyrant who has 01:09:06.800 --> 01:09:12.880 set himself contrary to God, acts against God, seeks to destroy the 01:09:12.880 --> 01:09:18.720 church of God, and is generally the worst sort of tyrant 01:09:21.040 --> 01:09:25.040 If you read the description of that tyrant in the Magdeburg Confession, 01:09:25.040 --> 01:09:29.920 we are well and truly far beyond that now, with how far 01:09:29.920 --> 01:09:32.400 we have permitted things to go. 01:09:32.400 --> 01:09:34.960 And so there is a Christian response, and it is in the 01:09:34.960 --> 01:09:42.560 Magdeburg Confession, but I'll leave that for you listeners to read. 01:09:42.560 --> 01:09:49.680 All of these issues with regard to jealousy, they really 01:09:49.680 --> 01:09:53.920 go against the way that the modern world wants us to think 01:09:53.920 --> 01:09:55.440 about things. 01:09:55.440 --> 01:10:01.840 Because everything in the modern world is designed to subvert God's order. 01:10:01.840 --> 01:10:05.920 And all of these are related to how God has ordered things, 01:10:05.920 --> 01:10:09.680 from the most basic sort of order being alive versus being dead, 01:10:09.680 --> 01:10:12.000 and so we're to be jealous of the life that God has 01:10:12.000 --> 01:10:15.280 given us and jealous for the lives God has given others. 01:10:15.280 --> 01:10:17.680 It's just the fifth commandment again 01:10:19.120 --> 01:10:23.280 to the foundational order of the family, which is the sixth commandment 01:10:23.360 --> 01:10:24.640 and also the fourth commandment. 01:10:25.120 --> 01:10:27.920 All of these things, all of these ways in which God has 01:10:27.920 --> 01:10:34.800 ordered human life, our culture and our society, they're trying to tear 01:10:34.800 --> 01:10:36.480 them down and destroy them. 01:10:36.480 --> 01:10:39.120 And again, one of the ways that Satan has done this is 01:10:39.840 --> 01:10:44.720 by essentially removing the positive sense of jealousy from the minds of 01:10:44.720 --> 01:10:45.920 most men. 01:10:45.920 --> 01:10:48.000 They hear the word, they think, oh, that's negative. 01:10:48.000 --> 01:10:48.800 We can't be jealous. 01:10:48.800 --> 01:10:49.920 That's a bad thing. 01:10:49.920 --> 01:10:53.440 A jealous husband is a husband who keeps too tight of a 01:10:53.440 --> 01:10:55.120 leash on his wife. 01:10:55.120 --> 01:10:57.840 When the exact opposite is true. 01:10:57.840 --> 01:11:00.880 As Woe said, if you are not jealous of your wife, and 01:11:00.880 --> 01:11:03.840 if you do not act in that way, you are not going 01:11:03.840 --> 01:11:05.280 to keep her. 01:11:05.280 --> 01:11:08.000 And quite frankly, you shouldn't. 01:11:08.000 --> 01:11:13.680 Because you are neglecting to act properly, to believe properly, to feel 01:11:13.680 --> 01:11:16.960 properly about the things that God has given you. 01:11:17.120 --> 01:11:20.880 As Scripture says, one of the greatest blessings is a faithful wife, 01:11:20.880 --> 01:11:24.080 and if you aren't jealous of that, then you don't deserve the 01:11:24.080 --> 01:11:29.840 gift that God gave you, and you will lose it. 01:11:30.080 --> 01:11:35.280 A quote from Chrysostom comes to mind, related to what Woe was 01:11:35.280 --> 01:11:38.720 saying in the Magdeburg Confession as well He who is not angry 01:11:38.800 --> 01:11:42.880 whereas he has cause to be sins, for unreasonable patience is the 01:11:42.880 --> 01:11:44.640 hotbed of many vices. 01:11:44.640 --> 01:11:48.560 It fosters negligence and incites not only the wicked but the good 01:11:48.560 --> 01:11:51.840 to do wrong. 01:11:51.840 --> 01:11:53.040 And that last part 01:11:54.960 --> 01:11:58.400 is important we should focus on that. 01:11:58.400 --> 01:12:02.960 When good men refuse to stand up and oppose evil, well one 01:12:03.040 --> 01:12:05.680 they cease to be good men or they prove that they never 01:12:05.680 --> 01:12:11.760 were, but it also weakens other people men. 01:12:11.760 --> 01:12:16.320 Because there will always be those who are stronger in this way 01:12:16.320 --> 01:12:20.560 or that way, whether it's physically stronger or stronger in the faith. 01:12:20.560 --> 01:12:23.840 You have a firmer faith, and so you can weather the attacks 01:12:23.840 --> 01:12:24.320 of the enemy 01:12:25.520 --> 01:12:30.480 more consistently, more thoroughly, and for a longer period of time. 01:12:30.480 --> 01:12:33.520 God knows that, so God will not throw something at you that 01:12:33.520 --> 01:12:37.760 you cannot withstand, we have his promise of that in scripture. 01:12:37.760 --> 01:12:42.000 But if those men to whom God has given those gifts, do 01:12:42.000 --> 01:12:45.200 not use them, do not stand up when it is required of 01:12:45.200 --> 01:12:49.040 them, they will weaken other men. 01:12:49.040 --> 01:12:53.120 Because those other men may not have gifts at the same level, 01:12:53.120 --> 01:12:56.160 but if they see that man who does have those gifts stand 01:12:56.160 --> 01:12:59.440 up, it may give them what they need to stand up. 01:13:00.080 --> 01:13:01.360 And that is how this works. 01:13:01.360 --> 01:13:04.800 That's how it works in basically everything in life. 01:13:04.800 --> 01:13:08.800 You need someone to stand up and be the first person over 01:13:08.880 --> 01:13:12.640 the ridge, over the trench. 01:13:12.640 --> 01:13:14.880 That's just the nature of the beast. 01:13:14.880 --> 01:13:19.360 And if God has given you the talents, the abilities to be 01:13:19.360 --> 01:13:23.280 that man in some way, it is incumbent on you to do 01:13:23.280 --> 01:13:29.840 so, because not to do so is sin. 01:13:29.840 --> 01:13:34.240 And again, it weakens all of the other men around you. 01:13:34.240 --> 01:13:36.720 It has a domino effect. 01:13:36.720 --> 01:13:38.400 If the men who have been given 01:13:39.520 --> 01:13:43.920 the talents, the abilities, the attributes, the resources do not use them 01:13:43.920 --> 01:13:50.960 appropriately, the downstream consequences are even more disastrous than the consequences of 01:13:50.960 --> 01:13:54.320 that man himself not standing up and doing what needs to be 01:13:54.320 --> 01:14:01.600 done. And Woe mentioned the zeal of young 01:14:01.600 --> 01:14:05.760 men, and the fact that zeal is usually described as being, in 01:14:05.760 --> 01:14:10.720 our culture, immaturity, which is of course absurd. 01:14:10.720 --> 01:14:14.640 Even more absurd given how many men are praised for having zeal 01:14:14.640 --> 01:14:17.280 about things that actually are childish. 01:14:17.280 --> 01:14:21.520 I will deliberately neglect to list them here. 01:14:21.520 --> 01:14:24.880 But zeal for the things of God, for things that are actually 01:14:24.880 --> 01:14:25.200 important 01:14:27.280 --> 01:14:30.320 is a vital aspect of being a Christian man. 01:14:30.320 --> 01:14:36.560 However, there is a relationship to age, admittedly. 01:14:36.560 --> 01:14:43.200 Older men are going to have not necessarily less zeal, but less 01:14:43.200 --> 01:14:47.600 energy to use the zeal to exercise the zeal. 01:14:47.600 --> 01:14:52.000 If you're 96 years old, you are not going to be going 01:14:52.000 --> 01:14:55.680 out and doing the things that a 20-year-old man can do. 01:14:55.680 --> 01:14:59.280 In fact, that is usually how older men injure themselves is by 01:14:59.280 --> 01:15:04.000 failing to realize they are no longer young men. 01:15:04.000 --> 01:15:07.040 And so that's one of the reasons that one of the duties 01:15:07.040 --> 01:15:11.680 of older men is to train, is to teach younger men, and 01:15:11.680 --> 01:15:14.960 part of that is to teach them to be jealous for the 01:15:14.960 --> 01:15:19.360 things of God, to be zealous for the things of God. 01:15:19.360 --> 01:15:24.240 Passing on that fire is one of the most important tasks for 01:15:24.240 --> 01:15:26.080 older men. 01:15:26.080 --> 01:15:30.160 And unfortunately, that has not happened in the last handful of generations. 01:15:30.160 --> 01:15:33.040 And that is one of the reasons we're having to rebuild and 01:15:33.120 --> 01:15:37.520 in some cases, rediscover these things, because they were not passed down 01:15:37.520 --> 01:15:40.160 to us as they should have been. 01:15:40.160 --> 01:15:43.760 We need not to make the same mistakes. 01:15:43.760 --> 01:15:44.400 And so 01:15:45.840 --> 01:15:49.280 the men who were now in their late thirties, forties, fifties, whatever 01:15:49.280 --> 01:15:53.760 it happens to be, these are the ages where some of this 01:15:54.080 --> 01:15:57.920 information, some of these things need to be passed on to the 01:15:57.920 --> 01:15:58.720 younger generation. 01:15:58.800 --> 01:16:01.920 Of course that's part of what we're doing With this podcast, I'm 01:16:01.840 --> 01:16:05.760 not saying we're necessarily old yet, but I guess for some of 01:16:05.760 --> 01:16:08.480 the younger members of the audience, I'm nearly forty, so I guess 01:16:08.480 --> 01:16:11.200 that counts as old. 01:16:11.200 --> 01:16:15.760 But the point is we have to do our duty as men. 01:16:15.760 --> 01:16:20.480 And part of that duty is training the next generation. 01:16:20.480 --> 01:16:22.720 Because these things can be lost. 01:16:22.720 --> 01:16:27.280 Sometimes in a generation, sometimes in one generation you can lose these 01:16:27.280 --> 01:16:29.840 things. And what does scripture say? 01:16:29.840 --> 01:16:32.320 Train up a child in the way he should go, and when 01:16:32.320 --> 01:16:34.480 he is old he will not depart from it. 01:16:34.480 --> 01:16:36.480 That is a promise from God. 01:16:36.480 --> 01:16:41.600 That is how you maintain civilization longitudinally, how you maintain it over 01:16:41.600 --> 01:16:46.320 a course of centuries or longer if God blesses you. 01:16:46.320 --> 01:16:50.240 But if you neglect to do these things, if you neglect to 01:16:50.240 --> 01:16:53.120 teach the next generation, to have zeal for the things of God 01:16:53.600 --> 01:16:56.960 God. Well, they won't have it. 01:16:56.960 --> 01:17:00.880 Maybe God will bless them and it will be rediscovered. 01:17:00.880 --> 01:17:04.720 But why would you put that curse on them? 01:17:04.720 --> 01:17:08.400 You were given good things If you happen to have had faithful 01:17:08.400 --> 01:17:10.400 teachers, pass those on. 01:17:10.400 --> 01:17:14.000 And if you didn't have faithful teachers, and you're learning those things 01:17:14.000 --> 01:17:17.760 now instead, and you had to learn them through blood, sweat, and 01:17:17.760 --> 01:17:20.800 tears, however it happens to have been that you manage to acquire 01:17:20.800 --> 01:17:24.960 those things by the blessing of God, pass them on. 01:17:24.960 --> 01:17:28.720 The goal is not to make each generation have to build up 01:17:28.720 --> 01:17:31.440 the foundation again for itself, have to reach have to rediscover these 01:17:31.440 --> 01:17:35.120 things. That's not how civilization works, it's not how families work, it's 01:17:35.040 --> 01:17:36.880 not how anything works. 01:17:36.880 --> 01:17:40.880 And we'll get into that of course more in the inheritance episode. 01:17:40.880 --> 01:17:44.960 But passing these things on is a vitally important part of the 01:17:45.600 --> 01:17:46.960 Christian life. 01:17:46.960 --> 01:17:51.040 And that is, in and of itself, zeal. 01:17:51.040 --> 01:17:54.640 Because part of having zeal for the things of God is to 01:17:54.640 --> 01:17:59.360 want to transmit them to others, particularly to those with whom one 01:17:59.360 --> 01:18:06.640 has a special relationship, so sons or nephews, or just anyone 01:18:06.800 --> 01:18:12.000 God has placed under you, has made you ahead of that person, 01:18:12.000 --> 01:18:17.200 has given you a duty to train that person in the faith. 01:18:17.200 --> 01:18:23.840 And again, because it bears repeating, part of that is transmitting that 01:18:23.840 --> 01:18:26.800 zeal for the things of God. 01:18:26.800 --> 01:18:31.520 And if you don't have it, the people you are attempting to 01:18:31.520 --> 01:18:34.880 teach, you are attempting to train up in the way they should 01:18:34.880 --> 01:18:38.560 go. Will notice it. 01:18:38.560 --> 01:18:41.360 If you don't believe the things you're teaching, if you don't have 01:18:41.360 --> 01:18:47.280 zeal for the things you're teaching, they will not take them seriously. 01:18:47.280 --> 01:18:51.680 Because they will recognize that you don't take them seriously. 01:18:51.680 --> 01:18:54.720 And that is why we go over issues that some will think, 01:18:54.720 --> 01:18:56.960 well, that doesn't seem like it's central to the faith. 01:18:56.960 --> 01:18:58.400 That's not the point. 01:18:58.400 --> 01:19:01.280 The point isn't centrality to the faith. 01:19:01.280 --> 01:19:05.920 This one just so happens to be central to the faith. 01:19:05.920 --> 01:19:10.080 But even issues that are not central to the faith are important. 01:19:10.080 --> 01:19:13.840 Because if you let the things at the periphery fall away, well 01:19:14.320 --> 01:19:17.600 now the things that were adjacent to the things that were the 01:19:17.600 --> 01:19:20.240 periphery are the periphery. 01:19:20.240 --> 01:19:21.520 Will you fight for those? 01:19:21.520 --> 01:19:24.480 Well no, they're they're peripheral, I can let those fall away. 01:19:24.480 --> 01:19:27.440 And so on and so forth. 01:19:27.440 --> 01:19:32.880 The question Is always what you're going to yield. 01:19:32.880 --> 01:19:37.280 How far you're going to let the enemy encroach. 01:19:37.280 --> 01:19:44.400 Sometimes you can't fight over absolutely everything, because again, limited energy, limited 01:19:44.400 --> 01:19:47.440 time, particularly as you get older. 01:19:47.440 --> 01:19:53.920 However, we should not be yielding any of the things of God, 01:19:53.920 --> 01:19:56.400 any of the truth of God. 01:19:56.640 --> 01:20:01.280 And so older men, who have properly learned these things, can teach 01:20:01.280 --> 01:20:04.960 younger men who have the zeal to defend these things, and for 01:20:04.960 --> 01:20:07.840 those who still have the energy, who still have the time on 01:20:07.840 --> 01:20:11.040 this earth to do so, it is incumbent on us 01:20:12.000 --> 01:20:17.120 to have a zeal for these things that actually does boil over 01:20:17.760 --> 01:20:21.680 into something meaningful and concrete. 01:20:21.680 --> 01:20:26.160 These are not just issues to discuss or things to think about. 01:20:26.160 --> 01:20:29.200 These are not mental exercises. 01:20:30.960 --> 01:20:35.520 There is a very real war between good and evil, and if 01:20:35.520 --> 01:20:38.880 you are of Christ, you are a soldier on the side of 01:20:38.880 --> 01:20:43.200 good, that comes with duties, that comes with things that you are 01:20:43.200 --> 01:20:48.240 required to do, and you need to have a zeal for those. 01:20:48.240 --> 01:20:51.760 Not just because it is your duty to have that zeal, but 01:20:51.760 --> 01:20:55.760 because that zeal is what will carry you through, regardless of what 01:20:55.760 --> 01:20:58.880 sort of persecution may come. 01:20:58.880 --> 01:21:02.720 And part of that is that persecution gives you the opportunity to 01:21:02.720 --> 01:21:04.720 display your zeal. 01:21:04.720 --> 01:21:08.800 Because those who fall away were those who didn't have zeal. 01:21:08.800 --> 01:21:11.600 Those who didn't take these things seriously. 01:21:11.600 --> 01:21:15.920 Those who weren't really jealousy, those who weren't really jealous for God's 01:21:15.920 --> 01:21:18.480 honor and glory and name. 01:21:18.480 --> 01:21:23.520 And that is not what we want for any Christian, particularly for 01:21:23.520 --> 01:21:26.960 those who are listening to this podcast. 01:21:26.960 --> 01:21:31.680 Because to some degree, of course, as teachers we will be judged 01:21:31.920 --> 01:21:36.480 according to not just the truth of what we taught, but the 01:21:36.480 --> 01:21:41.040 consequences of it, because that is the fruit of the tree, and 01:21:41.040 --> 01:21:44.160 the tree is judged by its fruit. 01:21:44.160 --> 01:21:47.040 And so yes, of course, there's I guess you could call it 01:21:47.040 --> 01:21:51.280 self-interest, but it's not in the negative sense, because again, it's one 01:21:51.280 --> 01:21:54.960 of those terms that we attach a negative sense to in English. 01:21:54.960 --> 01:21:56.720 It's not self-dealing. 01:21:56.720 --> 01:21:59.840 It's jealousy for the things of God. 01:21:59.840 --> 01:22:06.800 And an earnest desire that those who actually listen, those who learn 01:22:06.800 --> 01:22:11.200 from what we are teaching, will gain something from it, will care 01:22:11.200 --> 01:22:13.440 about the things of God, will have a zeal for the things 01:22:13.440 --> 01:22:16.560 of God, and will benefit from them. 01:22:16.560 --> 01:22:19.440 Because God does reward the faithful. 01:22:19.440 --> 01:22:23.440 God is not an absent God, he's not an absent father, he's 01:22:23.360 --> 01:22:25.280 not the God of deism. 01:22:25.280 --> 01:22:29.280 God is actually involved in his creation, and he does punish the 01:22:29.280 --> 01:22:32.880 wicked, and he does reward the righteous.