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<v Speaker 2>Welcome to the Stone Choir Podcast.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>I am Corey J.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>Mahler. And I'm Wo.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>Today we are going to be talking about Satan's playbook.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>Uh we're going to discuss the strategies that are used in this</v>

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<v Speaker 3>world across the board, in in all the various realms of life,</v>

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<v Speaker 3>that seem to keep coming up over and over again.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>we see these patterns repeated so often that at some point you</v>

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<v Speaker 3>have to recognize the pattern and realize, as Corey has said in</v>

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<v Speaker 3>past episodes, there's clearly an animating intelligence behind what's going on.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>The consistency and the precision with which certain strategies are employed, it's</v>

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<v Speaker 3>more than y can be believed from just normal conscious people doing</v>

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<v Speaker 3>what they feel like doing in the moment.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>Uh so today we're going to be talking about a few of</v>

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<v Speaker 3>the strategies that are used by evil, by Satan in the world,</v>

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<v Speaker 3>both in what we call the political realm, the left hand kingdom,</v>

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<v Speaker 3>and in the in the church.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>And there are two initial points that I want to make before</v>

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<v Speaker 3>we met get into it.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>One, again, we're talking about Satan, and we're gonna be talking about</v>

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<v Speaker 3>demons, and that is strident talk.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>to speak in such terms is inherently polarizing.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>Uh it makes people uncomfortable.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>The fact that we would be talking about overt evil as having</v>

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<v Speaker 3>an animating intelligence behind it, it's not something that people want to</v>

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<v Speaker 3>think about.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>Uh so I want to make up clear up front that this</v>

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<v Speaker 3>is not something that we spend a lot of time thinking about.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>It's not what we think the Christian life is.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>But</v>

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<v Speaker 3>scripture warns that Satan prowls as a roaring lion seeking whom he</v>

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<v Speaker 3>may devour.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>And if there's a lion in the woods or in the jungle</v>

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<v Speaker 3>or w the tall grass, wherever your your local f flora is</v>

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<v Speaker 3>like, you wanna know he's there and you wanna know where he</v>

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<v Speaker 3>is. And so that requires consciousness.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>you must be aware of the enemy and and of the manner</v>

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<v Speaker 3>in which it's seeking to devour you.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>So that's why we're talking about it.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>It's not to be dramatic and it's not to name call.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>Uh we're going to talk some in this about demons and about</v>

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<v Speaker 3>the voice of demons.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>animating certain conversations in the church, which again seems very confrontational.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>We're not doing it to be dramatic or to to be name</v>

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<v Speaker 3>calling. That's the chief thing that that we hope will be believed</v>

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<v Speaker 3>when we're discussing this.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>When Cory and I say this is demonic, it is in light</v>

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<v Speaker 3>of First Timothy four, which as we've said before, sets the bar</v>

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<v Speaker 3>for teachings of demons as incredibly low.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>It's not that only the very most central tenets of theology can</v>

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<v Speaker 3>possibly be attacked by Satan.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>He who is the father of lies will use any lie he</v>

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<v Speaker 3>can get to you with.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>And so when we talk about these things in terms of evil</v>

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<v Speaker 3>and in terms of the demonic, it's deliberat we're deliberately shining a</v>

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<v Speaker 3>bright light on areas where frankly evil has been permitted to maneuver</v>

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<v Speaker 3>in the dark.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>And so this episode today is to help people learn how can</v>

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<v Speaker 3>you identify when evil is maneuvering.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>Because as we said, there's a playbook.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>There with there are patterns that play out over and over.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>And the intelligent, honest Christian at some point must acknowledge what's going</v>

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<v Speaker 3>on here is not a coincidence.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>The fact the same the fact that the same thing that happened</v>

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<v Speaker 3>to what became public schools in the nineteenth century is today culminating</v>

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<v Speaker 3>in the absolute destruction of human bodies and minds and souls in</v>

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<v Speaker 3>the twenty first is not a coincidence.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>And the fact that Christian schools even are the same thing except</v>

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<v Speaker 3>in slow motion.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>They're twenty years behind, but they're following the same path.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>That's not a coincidence.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>Uh so the we're gonna give an overview of kind of three</v>

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<v Speaker 3>main categories of attack that Satan uses, and then we're gonna give</v>

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<v Speaker 3>some specific examples from the Missouri Synod recently where the newly annotated</v>

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<v Speaker 3>and released large cataclysm, uh which I'll mostly refer to as the</v>

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<v Speaker 3>large cataclysm because that's really what it is, how the strategies that</v>

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<v Speaker 3>we're going to describe up front were played out in particular in</v>

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<v Speaker 3>that scenario, not to say that it is special, but just to</v>

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<v Speaker 3>give a recent current example of how these overall strategies play out.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>So the three tools that we're going to focus on principally are</v>

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<v Speaker 3>the long march through the in institutions.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>Uh this is something that uh originated obviously in the political realm.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>Uh China today has a an I C B M called Long</v>

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<v Speaker 3>March. Uh someday ICBM's name long march may well land in North</v>

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<v Speaker 3>America. So it's very important in communism that that is a tool</v>

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<v Speaker 3>that they love and that they celebrate.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>And it's something that's been successfully employed on our shores again for</v>

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<v Speaker 3>nearly two centuries now, and is being employed in the past century</v>

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<v Speaker 3>very effectively in our own churches.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>So the march through the institutions, co-opting them, turning the things that</v>

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<v Speaker 3>we're trained to trust into things that are used against us.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>Then the second phase, we're going to be talking about once those</v>

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<v Speaker 3>people are in those positions of power, what do they say when</v>

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<v Speaker 3>someone objects to something they're doing?</v>

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<v Speaker 3>We're just being reasonable.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>Why are you guys so mad?</v>

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<v Speaker 3>You don't understand.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>You're confused by the words that we're using, but what we're doing</v>

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<v Speaker 3>is just like what we've always done.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>Sure it sounds a little bit different because it's modern.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>We're dealing with the modern world, so we have to use these</v>

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<v Speaker 3>modern ideas.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>Again, that is the second key element of Satan's playbook.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>Once he gets the institution, he changes how it talks and it</v>

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<v Speaker 3>says look, what we're doing is what we've always done, and we're</v>

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<v Speaker 3>being reasonable.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>And if you get mad at what we're doing, if you don't</v>

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<v Speaker 3>like it, you're unreasonable.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>And we'll talk about how that plays out.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>And third, we'll talk about when they get past the point of</v>

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<v Speaker 3>accusing those who object of unreasonableness, they employ Alinsky's thirteen rules, the</v>

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<v Speaker 3>rules for radicals from Saul Alinsky, who dedicated his book by that</v>

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<v Speaker 3>name to Satan, whom he called the the first rebel, the great</v>

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<v Speaker 3>Rebel, which was true.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>And that was that was his hero.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>And so we're not making a stretch by saying this is pla</v>

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<v Speaker 3>Satan's playbook when one of the men involved in writing it gave</v>

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<v Speaker 3>him credit.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>Uh so</v>

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<v Speaker 3>the reason that the rules for radicals are important is that that</v>

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<v Speaker 3>is when institutional power, which is a Marxist term, but you can't</v>

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<v Speaker 3>avoid using some of them, when the power that exists over</v>

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<v Speaker 3>structures that we believe are for our own benefit, when it is</v>

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<v Speaker 3>used against those underneath, it's used to single out, to pick off,</v>

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<v Speaker 3>to isolate, and to delegitimize so that it's not a question of</v>

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<v Speaker 3>what someone is saying in opposition to the now co-opted power structure,</v>

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<v Speaker 3>but it's a question of well you can't like or trust that</v>

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<v Speaker 3>person at all because they possess X, Y, and Z unacceptable uh</v>

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<v Speaker 3>characteristics. You know, it's they're mean, they're hateful, they're racist, whatever.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>You know all the words that are used.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>They're that are killing words to eliminate people from conversation.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>So that's going to be the basic structure of this episode.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>Uh so to begin, let's let's talk about the the long march</v>

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<v Speaker 3>through the institutions.</v>

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So the

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<v Speaker 2>long march through the institutions</v>

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<v Speaker 2>essentially it the name really tells you exactly what they're doing.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>The goal is to capture existing institutions and then wear them as</v>

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<v Speaker 2>a skin suit.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>And the reason you wear them as a skin suit is then</v>

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<v Speaker 2>you can take the legitimacy and the influence that institution had from</v>

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<v Speaker 2>what it used to be and wield that for yourself.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>And that's how you can change what the institution says and the</v>

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<v Speaker 2>gravitas, the influence of that institution remains because people don't update their</v>

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<v Speaker 2>mental frame quickly enough.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>They don't realize this has been co-opted, and so I shouldn't listen</v>

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<v Speaker 2>to it anymore.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>They look at it and say, this is an institution that has</v>

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<v Speaker 2>been trusted for a hundred, two hundred, three hundred, however many years</v>

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<v Speaker 2>it's been trusted, and so what it's saying must carry some weight.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>But what they don't realize is that the institution has been co</v>

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<v Speaker 2>opted. And how this is typically done is through the building of</v>

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<v Speaker 2>small networks that become larger networks.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>So one Marxist gets hired somewhere.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>Of course, the best place to get hired is HR or the</v>

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<v Speaker 2>hiring department, whatever it used to be.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>Today it would be HR, because then you can hire all your</v>

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<v Speaker 2>friends. And you have significantly more power with each additional individual you</v>

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<v Speaker 2>hire. Because now, oh, it's not just me, it's this panel made</v>

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<v Speaker 2>the decision, or this board made the decision, or this person signed</v>

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<v Speaker 2>off on it.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>And so you slowly hollow out the institution and fill it with</v>

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<v Speaker 2>your own people until it is 100% in opposition to what it</v>

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<v Speaker 2>used to be.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>And that is what the Marxists did with many institutions.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>One of the best examples would be academia.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>The Marxist hollowed out our universities, and this is the entirety of</v>

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<v Speaker 2>the West.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>This is not just in the US.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>They hollowed out the universities by getting their own people into positions</v>

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<v Speaker 2>of power and then filling all of the roles in the university</v>

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<v Speaker 2>with nothing but their own people.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>And so if you hold a contrary view, if you speak in</v>

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<v Speaker 2>a contrary way, you will simply be silenced, you'll be shouted down,</v>

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<v Speaker 2>you'll probably be terminated.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>And you may be thinking, Well, what about tenure?</v>

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<v Speaker 2>Tenure doesn't actually mean as much as you may think.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>You can still be fired.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>And good luck suing.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>So that's what happened with our universities, but this also happened with</v>

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<v Speaker 2>our media, and it happened with the media in a number of</v>

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<v Speaker 2>different ways.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>There's of course the common way I just spoke of when it</v>

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<v Speaker 2>comes to academia, hiring your own people, but you can do the</v>

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<v Speaker 2>same thing if you happen to have money at your disposal.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>Because what you do is you concentrate the various voices, the power</v>

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<v Speaker 2>structures, and how you do that is</v>

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<v Speaker 2>you buy up all the small newspapers, or you buy up all</v>

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<v Speaker 2>the small producers of television media, you buy up the studios.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>If you own all of these things, then you can control the</v>

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<v Speaker 2>narrative. You can make them all say the same things, often in</v>

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<v Speaker 2>the exact same words.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>There are some particularly damning clips of media personalities across the country</v>

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<v Speaker 2>and even in other countries using the exact same words.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>You can layer them over each other, and it just sounds like</v>

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<v Speaker 2>there's a slight echo.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>That's how you take over something like the media and then you</v>

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<v Speaker 2>can control the narrative in society and Because ultimately, of course, your</v>

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<v Speaker 2>goal is to take over the government.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>And if you can take over the academy and you can take</v>

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<v Speaker 2>over the media, you can take the government.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>Because with the media you control the narrative, you control what people</v>

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<v Speaker 2>think, you control the demands people make.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>And with the academia, with that side of things, you are producing</v>

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<v Speaker 2>the next generation of bureaucrats and politicians and doctors and lawyers and</v>

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<v Speaker 2>all of these people who will be running your managerial society.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>So that is how the Marxists manage their long march through the</v>

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<v Speaker 2>institutions, and today they basically own all of the things I mentioned.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>The control of the government is not complete.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>In the US, they are largely doing the long march through the</v>

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<v Speaker 2>various executive agencies.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>So I mean, yes, there's the FBI and the CIA where there's</v>

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<v Speaker 2>a competition between Mormons and Marxists, that's a topic for another day.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>But they are attempting to take over all of these institutions because</v>

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<v Speaker 2>those have very real power in our government, the way our government</v>

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<v Speaker 2>works. Because you have a very high churn rate, obviously, for congressmen,</v>

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<v Speaker 2>even since senators are six years.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>A president is a maximum of eight.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>So where is the real power?</v>

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<v Speaker 2>The real power lies with those who don't have to give up</v>

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<v Speaker 2>their offices, don't have to give up their control, their power, and</v>

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<v Speaker 2>simply gain more as they gain tenure and longevity.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>That would be the executive institutions, the executive agencies, and of course</v>

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<v Speaker 2>the courts.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>And as you said, the the reason that this strategy is so</v>

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<v Speaker 3>effective is that people are trusting.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>people get locked into a moment in time from at some point</v>

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<v Speaker 3>in their lives when they're being brought up where they will perceive</v>

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<v Speaker 3>things like school and newspapers and government as serving one end or</v>

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<v Speaker 3>another. And maybe you have a cynical view, maybe you have a</v>

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<v Speaker 3>a welcoming view.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>It's largely going to be f based on early in early in</v>

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<v Speaker 3>your life when you first formed an opinion about what was going</v>

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<v Speaker 3>on in those places.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>But</v>

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<v Speaker 3>the term institution I think is important because it it it intimates</v>

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<v Speaker 3>the question by whom was this instituted and for what purpose?</v>

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<v Speaker 3>And that's precisely why institutions are targeted.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>Because, for example, academia, universities and and lesser schools are instituted historically</v>

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<v Speaker 3>by local communities to educate their young, to inculcate sound knowledge</v>

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<v Speaker 3>and the ability to reason.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>And that's still the skin suit that they wear to this day.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>You want to learn how to think, you want to learn more</v>

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<v Speaker 3>about subjects, you go to school.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>That's where you learn those things.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>And so by targeting the place where people think the learning is</v>

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<v Speaker 3>occurring, all they have to do is hollow that out and cause</v>

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<v Speaker 3>it to inculcate a different sort of thing.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>And if you say, Well, that's indoctrination, that's brainwashing.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>That doesn't have anything to do with learning.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>In fact, that's the opposite of learning now.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>They will just shine you down and say, Well, that's ridiculous.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>It's a school.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>how could a university possibly not teach people?</v>

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, look how much it costs.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>It must be valuable.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>And it's usually enough to confuse most people that they'll just sort</v>

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<v Speaker 3>of wander away because you don't want to think about it in</v>

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<v Speaker 3>the first place.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>And you know the the other examples you gave were spot on.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>Media works the same way.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>You know, if if someone is old enough that they grew up</v>

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<v Speaker 3>with Walter Cronkite, you probably have a pretty high trust in media,</v>

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<v Speaker 3>even to this day.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>Certainly relative to someone who's a Zoomer who has only ever seen</v>

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<v Speaker 3>just a complete parody of nonsense.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>Like the the media in the twenty-first century has been such a</v>

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<v Speaker 3>joke on its face, and yet people still keep gobbling it up</v>

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<v Speaker 3>because it still has the same name and some of the same</v>

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<v Speaker 3>logos and some of the same historical trappings that came along from</v>

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<v Speaker 3>an era when one might think that it was more trustworthy.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>I would say that I would argue it was probably never trustworthy</v>

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<v Speaker 3>in the slightest, but even if that were the case, it's far</v>

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<v Speaker 3>worse today.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>So when you lock in an idea of what one of these</v>

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<v Speaker 3>things is for, you stick to it even in the face of</v>

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<v Speaker 3>evidence. And so like many of our episodes, the reason that we're</v>

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<v Speaker 3>talking about this and highlighting these is that I I don't want</v>

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<v Speaker 3>to say you must become suspicious, but I don't know how else</v>

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<v Speaker 3>to say it.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>You got you have to look out for your own soul and</v>

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<v Speaker 3>your own mind.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>It's a lot of this really goes back to the genealogy of</v>

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<v Speaker 3>ideas episode where we talked about checking your inputs.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>When someone comes to you with new words and new new concepts</v>

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<v Speaker 3>you've never heard before, where did they get them?</v>

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<v Speaker 3>Why are they talking in some weird way that you've never heard</v>

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<v Speaker 3>before? What is their upstream source?</v>

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<v Speaker 3>Because they may be coming to you from an institution that you</v>

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<v Speaker 3>trust. It may be your own church's publishing house.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>And you should implicitly be able to entrust to trust that.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>And yet, if they're talking in a way that you have reason</v>

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<v Speaker 3>to believe could possibly do harm, you need to dial the trust</v>

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<v Speaker 3>back and you need to start verifying.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>You need to verify where did this stuff come from?</v>

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<v Speaker 3>And so a lot of this is going to be about that</v>

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<v Speaker 3>because when the institutions are co-opted and they're hollowed out and they're</v>

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<v Speaker 3>turned into something else, people continue to believe that they're doing what</v>

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<v Speaker 3>they originally were sold as, and that's simply not the case.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>And that's one of the really difficult hurdles for people, especially older</v>

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<v Speaker 3>people, to get over.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>Because you just you don't want to admit that you've been lied</v>

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<v Speaker 3>to and that you fell for it.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>Like it's one thing if someone tries to lie to you, especially</v>

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<v Speaker 3>systematically. It's a second more difficult thing for you to suddenly realize</v>

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<v Speaker 3>I've been lied to for 50 years and I didn't realize it</v>

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<v Speaker 3>the whole time.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>I didn't see through it.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>it makes you feel stupid.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>It makes you feel like a dupe and you look back over</v>

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<v Speaker 3>the things that you've said and done that maybe were informed by</v>

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<v Speaker 3>sources that you now realize didn't have didn't have the intent in</v>

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<v Speaker 3>mind that you thought they did when you regurgit regurgitated the things</v>

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<v Speaker 3>that they're saying.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>And so</v>

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<v Speaker 3>it's a it's a big ask to suggest to someone: look at</v>

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<v Speaker 3>something that you trust and see if you can still trust it.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>That's a it's a scary thing and it's not something one people</v>

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<v Speaker 3>want to hear about.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>And then for us to s additionally connect it to, well this</v>

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<v Speaker 3>isn't just a political strategy.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>This isn't just Marx or Popper giving a playbook to say, oh,</v>

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<v Speaker 3>well, let's do this and see, because we think it's going to</v>

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<v Speaker 3>be better for the world.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>When the fundamental point that must be recognized as you're As you're</v>

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<v Speaker 3>looking at these things, is that there's an animating intelligence behind it</v>

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<v Speaker 3>that's more evil than any of the people involved and has ultimate</v>

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<v Speaker 3>evil ends in mind.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>That's it's something that most people I think are probably not equipped</v>

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<v Speaker 3>even to handle mentally.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>We're not given the tools to recognize that there there is evil</v>

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<v Speaker 3>and there is a there's temptation in the world beyond just my</v>

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<v Speaker 3>own personal self.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, when we talk about Satan coming to us in these ways,</v>

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<v Speaker 3>it's different than Satan coming to you and tempting you with whatever</v>

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<v Speaker 3>you're vulnerable to.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>Maybe it's sex, maybe it's gluttony, maybe it's laziness.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>You can go down the list of things that are different hooks</v>

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<v Speaker 3>for different people.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>Some people are largely impervious to some sins and very easily felled</v>

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<v Speaker 3>by others.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>And so you tend to have your guard up when it's your</v>

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<v Speaker 3>own personal sins.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>And you don't really have to worry about the others because that's</v>

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<v Speaker 3>not your weakness.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>And so I think when we think about Satan acting in the</v>

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<v Speaker 3>world, especially in our lives, we want to think about it in</v>

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<v Speaker 3>those narrow terms.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>Is he coming to me and trying to tempt me?</v>

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<v Speaker 3>The reason we're doing these episodes is to point out that there</v>

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<v Speaker 3>are other ways that Satan comes to you, and chief among them</v>

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<v Speaker 3>is as deceiver, because if he can get you to believe something</v>

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<v Speaker 3>different, now that's different than tempting you with something seductive, something you</v>

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<v Speaker 3>already want.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>When Satan deceives you, he's tricking you into loving and believing and</v>

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<v Speaker 3>adoring and seeking out something new, something you didn't know you needed.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>And then it gets packaged up and marketed in such a way</v>

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<v Speaker 3>that you're like, oh wow, I need that.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>that's that's really important.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>And Christians are so vulnerable to it because when it's our own</v>

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<v Speaker 3>institutions that are co-opted, when it's our churches and our seminaries and</v>

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<v Speaker 3>the group of men who are going to be going into them,</v>

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<v Speaker 3>when they're the ones who are seduced by these worldly ideas.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>The problem moves far upstream sufficiently that you as the person sitting</v>

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<v Speaker 3>in the pew can't see where it's coming from.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>All you see is your pastor who's trying to preach faithfully up</v>

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<v Speaker 3>in the pulpit and he's saying some things that are a little</v>

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<v Speaker 3>bit strange.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>You know, maybe it's stuff that you've actually heard a work before.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>You're hearing terms in the pulpit that you've also heard in your</v>

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<v Speaker 3>div diversity, equity, and inclusion training at work.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>And that kind of makes you uncomfortable because how is it that</v>

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<v Speaker 3>scripture is saying the same thing as my pagan boss who's trying</v>

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<v Speaker 3>to brainwash me into something that no one believed 20 years ago?</v>

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<v Speaker 3>And that's the right question.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>It's not fundamentally a question of is my pastor evil.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>It's a question of are these words deceptive?</v>

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<v Speaker 3>Because it's the origin of the words that matter, not the man</v>

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<v Speaker 3>who's speaking them.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>If something has an inherent nature that is contrary to scripture, that's</v>

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<v Speaker 3>the end of the discussion as far as evaluating what to do</v>

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<v Speaker 3>with it.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>The second order effect is: what do we do with this pastor?</v>

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<v Speaker 3>What do we do with this septic?</v>

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<v Speaker 3>What do we do with the fact that we're letting these men</v>

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<v Speaker 3>in who are subject to these deceptions?</v>

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<v Speaker 3>And that's a that's a much bigger problem in terms of retaking</v>

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<v Speaker 3>the institutions, but the first thing that we have to deal with</v>

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<v Speaker 3>today on the ground is identifying when our own institutions have um</v>

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<v Speaker 3>been damaged to the point that suddenly some of the things that</v>

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<v Speaker 3>they're saying are not true anymore.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>And they're lies that are being imported from a world that seeks</v>

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<v Speaker 3>our destruction.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>And the reason that co-opting the institution is so important is that</v>

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<v Speaker 3>you trust it.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>You trust that when your your church's publishing house puts out a</v>

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<v Speaker 3>book that's gone through doctrinal review, that it's going to be sound</v>

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<v Speaker 3>doctrine. that's the sell.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>That's what they're giving you.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>It's not just a book that they're selling.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>They're giving you its imprim, you're their imprimatur on the book to</v>

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<v Speaker 3>say, This is sound doctrine you can trust, trust us.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>If that's the extent of your analysis and your skepticism, you're going</v>

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<v Speaker 3>to be devouring things that did not come from God.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>And again, this is a it's a scary, challenging subject because it</v>

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<v Speaker 3>undermines faith.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>It does undermine faith when you suddenly realize maybe not every pastor</v>

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<v Speaker 3>can be trusted to speak faithfully.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>Maybe about some things they get it right, but if there are</v>

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<v Speaker 3>other things are getting wrong, that's what you need to worry about.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>And it's a very scary thing.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>And co-opting the institutions is how how Satan anesthetizes us against feeling</v>

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<v Speaker 3>the pinch when this is inserted into our lives.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>Because even if the even if the words coming from the pastor</v>

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<v Speaker 3>that you're reading in the book sound a little weird, if you</v>

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<v Speaker 3>know that you can trust where they came from, you ignore where</v>

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<v Speaker 3>the words came from because you trust the messenger.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>And so if the institution is corrupted, the messenger can be corrupted</v>

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<v Speaker 3>by giving the messengers false words that again they're not temptation to</v>

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<v Speaker 3>sin in the way we typically think of sin.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>They're not temptation to look at pornography or to steal or to</v>

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<v Speaker 3>lie. They're temptation to believe something that doesn't immediately seem to have</v>

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<v Speaker 3>any negative effect.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>And that's the hardest thing of all about this is that on</v>

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<v Speaker 3>the surface it seems okay.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>Even if it's a different way of talking about something, if it</v>

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<v Speaker 3>seems okay and if it's juiced up so it sounds really Christian,</v>

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<v Speaker 3>then</v>

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<v Speaker 3>who are you to judge?</v>

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<v Speaker 3>Who are you to say that these things and these Christian sounding</v>

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<v Speaker 3>words aren't Christian?</v>

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<v Speaker 3>Well, that's why we did the episode on the perspicuity of Scripture.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>Can you believe what Scripture says and is it clear?</v>

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<v Speaker 3>Satan wants you to believe that's not true.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>So that when these other things they come down from the institutions</v>

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<v Speaker 3>that have been co-opted, you're disarmed.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>You think, well, I maybe I was wrong about the Bible, but</v>

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<v Speaker 3>I gotta trust my pastor and I gotta trust my church's publishing</v>

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<v Speaker 3>house. When that happens, you're already sunk because it's not going to</v>

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<v Speaker 3>stop with the one little lie and the one little deception.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>They will continue to pile up and pile up until ultimately there's</v>

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<v Speaker 3>a danger that your soul will be separated from God.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>Aaron</v>

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Powell

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<v Speaker 2>Looking at the messenger is actually a very good frame for this</v>

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<v Speaker 2>because that is exactly what we're telling people to do.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>We are telling you to look at the ultimate messenger.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>Because again, genealogy of ideas.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>You can trace any of these ideas back to an ultimate root.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>We are telling you don't just look at the man who is</v>

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<v Speaker 2>in front of you speaking the words.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>Where did he get them?</v>

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<v Speaker 2>Who told him those words?</v>

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<v Speaker 2>And who told him?</v>

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<v Speaker 2>We are pointing out that many of these things you are hearing,</v>

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<v Speaker 2>in fact, from pastors and others today, ultimately are from Satan.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>And as has been mentioned, that is not something the average person</v>

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<v Speaker 2>wants to realize, even wants to think about that.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>Because that could be your pastor speaking the words of Satan to</v>

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<v Speaker 2>you and telling you they're the words of God.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>He may not be doing that maliciously, he probably is not doing</v>

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<v Speaker 2>it maliciously.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>But it doesn't matter.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, it is worse if he is doing it maliciously, but that</v>

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<v Speaker 2>is a second problem.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>We are talking about the prime problem of whether or not you</v>

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<v Speaker 2>are hearing the words of God or the words of Satan.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>And so again, this is one of those times where it is</v>

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<v Speaker 2>worth worth looking at the meaning of actual terms.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>Indoctrination was mentioned, and most people today, when they hear indoctrination, they</v>

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<v Speaker 2>think, Oh, that's bad.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>Indoctrination is someone telling me how to think.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>Well that's that's a deep well, but indoctrination is not actually bad.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>It is a neutral term.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>Because indoctrination simply to means to bring into the doctrine of.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>Doctrine is simply teaching, because it comes from the Latin word for</v>

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<v Speaker 2>teacher, docare, to teach.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>And so indoctrination can be good or bad, it depends on the</v>

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<v Speaker 2>thing into which you are being indoctrinated.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>And so for instance, when we teach the catechisms in the Lutheran</v>

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<v Speaker 2>Church, that is indoctrination.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>When you teach your children scripture at home, that is indoctrination.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>That is good indoctrination, you are bringing them into the doctrine of</v>

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<v Speaker 2>the church, that's good.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>What is bad is when they are being indoctrinated into the doctrines</v>

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<v Speaker 2>of Satan.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>Which happens at most universities today.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>And that's the universities are a particularly heinous example because many of</v>

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<v Speaker 2>our universities and basically all of our great universities were started essentially</v>

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<v Speaker 2>as seminaries.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>They were started with the specific intent of training men to take</v>

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<v Speaker 2>on roles of leadership, teaching, and preaching in the church, and Satan</v>

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<v Speaker 2>has co opted them and is now teaching his doctrine to many</v>

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<v Speaker 2>of the men who will wind up in pulpits.</v>

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That

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<v Speaker 3>was the case with Harvard.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>It was Harvard Divinity.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>It was a divinity school.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, Harvard Divinity School was founded in sixteen thirty-six, and you can</v>

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<v Speaker 3>find online the the original uh admission exam, you had to be</v>

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<v Speaker 3>fluent Greek and Hebrew and Latin.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>And it wasn't simply because that was the general level of knowledge</v>

00:28:14.720 --> 00:28:17.200
<v Speaker 3>at that day, although it was much closer than what we have</v>

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<v Speaker 3>today. But it was specifically because they were there to train pastors.</v>

00:28:20.400 --> 00:28:23.200
<v Speaker 3>Harvard was founded because this was the new world.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>There was the to get a pastor from thousands of miles away</v>

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<v Speaker 3>wasn't gonna scale.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah. Yeah, dude.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>So Yeah.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>And I I think William and Mary was the same.</v>

00:28:34.880 --> 00:28:38.400
<v Speaker 3>Like the all all the earliest institutions that are today the most</v>

00:28:38.400 --> 00:28:43.040
<v Speaker 3>depraved and evil ones leading the charge in all these areas were</v>

00:28:43.040 --> 00:28:47.520
<v Speaker 3>themselves instituted in the name of God and for good purposes.</v>

00:28:47.520 --> 00:28:50.240
<v Speaker 3>And obviously as Lutherans we have some disagreements about some of the</v>

00:28:50.240 --> 00:28:53.120
<v Speaker 3>doctrines that they taught, but I I don't question that for the</v>

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<v Speaker 3>most part they were Christians.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>and that their intention was pure.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>They wanted to stick to the word of God as as they</v>

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<v Speaker 3>understood it even when they were in error.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>But those institutions, like to, to tell someone that Harvard was a</v>

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<v Speaker 3>was a Christian school, I mean, it would be illegal to say</v>

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<v Speaker 3>that today.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>And yet nearly four hundred years ago when it was founded, that</v>

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<v Speaker 3>was its it not its sole purpose, but v overwhelmingly its principal</v>

00:29:18.240 --> 00:29:21.840
<v Speaker 3>purpose. And it served that purpose vitally for a gr a great</v>

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<v Speaker 3>many years.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>and breaking down institutions</v>

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<v Speaker 3>is is what Satan does to kill things.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>He doesn't just make frontal assaults.</v>

00:29:33.440 --> 00:29:36.080
<v Speaker 3>He he'll find any vulnerability.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>And if that means sneaking in the back door or changing the</v>

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<v Speaker 3>locks or any, you know, metaphors fall apart, but the destruction is</v>

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<v Speaker 3>the ultimate goal.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>And he doesn't care how he does it.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>And And</v>

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<v Speaker 3>Christians have long understood the value of of institutions.</v>

00:29:53.520 --> 00:29:59.440
<v Speaker 3>The uh Lutheran fact the Lutherans, Lutheran Melanchthon were among the first</v>

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<v Speaker 3>to push greater education for</v>

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<v Speaker 3>children, for the lay children of of laymen, specifically to increase their</v>

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<v Speaker 3>their knowledge and wisdom in in godly things.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>When Luther realized how ignorant the masses were, it wasn't simply a</v>

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<v Speaker 3>failing of teaching in the in the church, but it was also</v>

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<v Speaker 3>just generally a failing of the Christian society to value the teaching</v>

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<v Speaker 3>of its own.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>And so Christian churches, Lutheran schools have been an inextricable part of</v>

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<v Speaker 3>Lutheran churches throughout the entire period of of the Reformation.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>And it's for this very important thing.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>It was</v>

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<v Speaker 2>required by our synod initially.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>That was part of if you were a Lutheran church Missouri Synod,</v>

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<v Speaker 2>if you were a member, you had to have a school.</v>

00:30:50.320 --> 00:30:53.040
<v Speaker 2>In fact, there were times where it was more important to set</v>

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<v Speaker 2>up the school</v>

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<v Speaker 2>before you set up the church building, because they recognized that it</v>

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<v Speaker 2>was absolutely vital to train the next generation, because at a bare</v>

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<v Speaker 2>minimum they have to have the education necessary to read scripture, to</v>

00:31:08.560 --> 00:31:12.800
<v Speaker 2>understand scripture, to actually listen to a sermon and understand what is</v>

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<v Speaker 2>being said.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>Unfortunately that's fallen by the wayside today, but</v>

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<v Speaker 3>So when Satan in targets the institutions, it's particularly because they're so</v>

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<v Speaker 3>effective at doing God's work.</v>

00:31:26.080 --> 00:31:30.000
<v Speaker 3>And rather than making a frontal assault on them, rather than saying,</v>

00:31:30.000 --> 00:31:32.400
<v Speaker 3>I'm going to attack this directly.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>As Corey said, he hollows it out and he wears it as</v>

00:31:34.880 --> 00:31:35.680
<v Speaker 3>a skin suit.</v>

00:31:35.680 --> 00:31:39.200
<v Speaker 3>And then it's doing his job in God's name.</v>

00:31:39.200 --> 00:31:43.120
<v Speaker 3>And the Christian today who has not been engaged, who's not been</v>

00:31:43.120 --> 00:31:48.080
<v Speaker 3>paying careful attention The Christian who remembers the good old days when</v>

00:31:48.080 --> 00:31:51.360
<v Speaker 3>things weren't so bad and wants to trust that they're not really</v>

00:31:51.360 --> 00:31:55.680
<v Speaker 3>as bad as they seem or that they'll get better, that man</v>

00:31:56.000 --> 00:32:01.840
<v Speaker 3>is fundamentally disarmed by his own naivete to look and think, well,</v>

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<v Speaker 3>I I I want to I still want to trust this thing</v>

00:32:04.400 --> 00:32:07.680
<v Speaker 3>because you know I I have my Latterman jacket or whatever.</v>

00:32:07.680 --> 00:32:11.440
<v Speaker 3>You know, it's you have some fondness for the past, which is</v>

00:32:11.440 --> 00:32:13.120
<v Speaker 3>really it's nostalgia.</v>

00:32:13.120 --> 00:32:16.400
<v Speaker 3>It's remembering a thing that no longer exists.</v>

00:32:16.400 --> 00:32:20.880
<v Speaker 3>And I think that as Christians, we are going to begin to</v>

00:32:20.880 --> 00:32:24.800
<v Speaker 3>need to take a long, hard look At which part of any</v>

00:32:24.800 --> 00:32:27.440
<v Speaker 3>existing institutions today</v>

00:32:28.400 --> 00:32:33.840
<v Speaker 3>should remain, whether they should be allowed to continue to exist as</v>

00:32:33.840 --> 00:32:37.760
<v Speaker 3>they do with the cruft that has built up, whether it's in</v>

00:32:37.760 --> 00:32:41.600
<v Speaker 3>our bylaws or as Corey mentioned with the FBI and the CIA,</v>

00:32:41.600 --> 00:32:44.480
<v Speaker 3>this happens in our churches too, when you have</v>

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<v Speaker 3>employees who stay there for decades and lifetimes in these unelected, invisible</v>

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<v Speaker 3>positions</v>

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<v Speaker 3>that continue to shape the future.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>If they're being faithful, that's a blessing.</v>

00:32:58.400 --> 00:33:03.520
<v Speaker 3>If they cease to be faithful, that's like having a radioactive substance</v>

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<v Speaker 3>inside your body.</v>

00:33:05.200 --> 00:33:08.800
<v Speaker 3>It's going to continue to produce cancer cells no mut no matter</v>

00:33:08.800 --> 00:33:12.000
<v Speaker 3>how hard your body fights to try to repair the damage.</v>

00:33:12.000 --> 00:33:15.360
<v Speaker 3>As long as there's that radioactive substance inside you, you're going to</v>

00:33:15.840 --> 00:33:17.680
<v Speaker 3>keep slowly dying.</v>

00:33:17.680 --> 00:33:23.760
<v Speaker 3>And the institutional rot caused by this institutional corruption is such that</v>

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<v Speaker 3>when we start looking at what do we have to deal with</v>

00:33:27.360 --> 00:33:30.720
<v Speaker 3>here? There are going to be some hard questions that every church</v>

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<v Speaker 3>is going to have to face about its own beloved trusted institutions.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>You know, the LCMS just celebrated its 175th anniversary or is about</v>

00:33:39.920 --> 00:33:40.720
<v Speaker 3>to, I can't remember which.</v>

00:33:41.280 --> 00:33:42.640
<v Speaker 3>I think it just did.</v>

00:33:42.640 --> 00:33:43.200
<v Speaker 3>And so</v>

00:33:44.080 --> 00:33:47.280
<v Speaker 3>we like to say that we stand on the shoulders of Walther</v>

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<v Speaker 3>and a hundred and seventy-five years of Missouri Senate Lutherans.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>Well, Corey made a point, uh tweet a couple days ago that</v>

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<v Speaker 3>opposition to polygony, opposition to slavery, opposition to patriarchy in the name</v>

00:34:03.280 --> 00:34:07.840
<v Speaker 3>of God as moral matters is a novelty.</v>

00:34:07.840 --> 00:34:11.680
<v Speaker 3>And amazingly, there was one of the pastors who generally doesn't like</v>

00:34:11.680 --> 00:34:16.640
<v Speaker 3>us very much who defended the position in so far as he</v>

00:34:16.640 --> 00:34:20.640
<v Speaker 3>confirmed to someone that said that Corey should be excommunicated from the</v>

00:34:20.640 --> 00:34:24.640
<v Speaker 3>church and declared to the whole world to be damned for eternity.</v>

00:34:24.640 --> 00:34:28.080
<v Speaker 3>This pastor said, Well, you know, the LCMS actually did believe those</v>

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<v Speaker 3>things once upon a time.</v>

00:34:29.760 --> 00:34:32.960
<v Speaker 3>Now, I don't believe this pastor was doing it because he agrees</v>

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<v Speaker 3>with scripture.</v>

00:34:33.680 --> 00:34:37.680
<v Speaker 3>He was simply making the point that yeah, we used to believe</v>

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<v Speaker 3>one thing and then we got better.</v>

00:34:39.760 --> 00:34:43.280
<v Speaker 3>The point that I made based on that interaction was that we</v>

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<v Speaker 3>claim to have a hundred and seventy five year legacy of Missouri</v>

00:34:46.800 --> 00:34:53.440
<v Speaker 3>Synod Lutheranism and a five hundred year legacy of Lutheranism by borrowing</v>

00:34:53.440 --> 00:34:56.800
<v Speaker 3>names from men who would not agree with many of the theological</v>

00:34:56.800 --> 00:34:58.000
<v Speaker 3>points that we teach today.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>And that is also a symptom of institutions being co-opted.</v>

00:35:03.840 --> 00:35:04.960
<v Speaker 3>If you have</v>

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<v Speaker 3>a church body that taught one thing historically, and then today it</v>

00:35:11.840 --> 00:35:16.480
<v Speaker 3>teaches a new doctrine that is not consistent with the historic doctrine.</v>

00:35:16.480 --> 00:35:18.640
<v Speaker 3>One of those is heresy.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>One of those is lying in God's name, which is the second</v>

00:35:22.560 --> 00:35:24.400
<v Speaker 3>worst sin that you can commit after</v>

00:35:25.280 --> 00:35:27.360
<v Speaker 3>saying that God is not your God.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>And one follows right after the other.</v>

00:35:30.000 --> 00:35:30.880
<v Speaker 3>And so</v>

00:35:31.760 --> 00:35:36.240
<v Speaker 3>the identification of these errors is not simply a matter of of</v>

00:35:36.560 --> 00:35:38.720
<v Speaker 3>winning fights on the internet.</v>

00:35:38.720 --> 00:35:42.320
<v Speaker 3>It's about making sure that the subversion and the damage that's being</v>

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<v Speaker 3>done in all of our churches in these modern terms by sources</v>

00:35:48.080 --> 00:35:50.400
<v Speaker 3>and words and ideas that are imported</v>

00:35:52.000 --> 00:35:57.360
<v Speaker 3>from atheism into the church sprinkled with Jesus dust so that it</v>

00:35:57.360 --> 00:36:00.560
<v Speaker 3>goes down easy when when Christians hear it.</v>

00:36:00.560 --> 00:36:03.040
<v Speaker 3>That's how Satan is getting us.</v>

00:36:03.040 --> 00:36:06.640
<v Speaker 3>He's making his words sound Christian.</v>

00:36:06.640 --> 00:36:11.440
<v Speaker 3>And so for the second part of this strategy, once this institutions</v>

00:36:11.600 --> 00:36:16.080
<v Speaker 3>are co-opted, what do these guys say again when anyone objects We're</v>

00:36:16.080 --> 00:36:17.360
<v Speaker 3>just being reasonable.</v>

00:36:17.360 --> 00:36:20.960
<v Speaker 3>This is the this is a normal, reasonable way to talk about</v>

00:36:20.960 --> 00:36:22.560
<v Speaker 3>these things today.</v>

00:36:22.560 --> 00:36:26.480
<v Speaker 3>And the reason that they do that is framing.</v>

00:36:26.480 --> 00:36:28.240
<v Speaker 3>It's very powerful framing.</v>

00:36:28.240 --> 00:36:29.920
<v Speaker 3>And it's the reason we did the framing episode.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>I hope you start to see that the more we go into</v>

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<v Speaker 3>this series, the more we refer back to specific episodes.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>We're doing that not for narcissistic reasons, but because this is a</v>

00:36:41.200 --> 00:36:44.480
<v Speaker 3>This is a framework for understanding everything that's going on.</v>

00:36:44.480 --> 00:36:47.520
<v Speaker 3>If you ignore the genealogy of the ideas that are coming to</v>

00:36:47.520 --> 00:36:50.640
<v Speaker 3>you, and if you accept the framing of those who are trying</v>

00:36:50.640 --> 00:36:54.960
<v Speaker 3>to feed those false ideas to you, you're fundamentally disarmed.</v>

00:36:54.960 --> 00:36:58.400
<v Speaker 3>Even if you might have the theological chops to push back, you're</v>

00:36:58.400 --> 00:37:00.560
<v Speaker 3>not going to have the willingness to because you're not going to</v>

00:37:00.560 --> 00:37:04.080
<v Speaker 3>be confident that what is confronting you is actually something that needs</v>

00:37:04.080 --> 00:37:05.360
<v Speaker 3>to be confronted.</v>

00:37:05.360 --> 00:37:09.200
<v Speaker 3>So when these guys insert this stuff, and you know, when when</v>

00:37:09.200 --> 00:37:13.040
<v Speaker 3>Corey and I use terms like sprinkle with Jesus dust or slather</v>

00:37:13.040 --> 00:37:17.120
<v Speaker 3>with Jesus butter, I hope that people don't think that we're being</v>

00:37:17.120 --> 00:37:20.240
<v Speaker 3>blasphemous against God because it's precisely the opposite person.</v>

00:37:20.400 --> 00:37:21.680
<v Speaker 3>purpose we have in mind.</v>

00:37:21.760 --> 00:37:27.040
<v Speaker 3>What we are saying is that these foreign radioactive substances that are</v>

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<v Speaker 3>coming from Satan's realm, that are teachings of demons, when these men</v>

00:37:31.680 --> 00:37:36.240
<v Speaker 3>bring these things into our churches, they don't bring them in their</v>

00:37:36.240 --> 00:37:37.600
<v Speaker 3>original clothing.</v>

00:37:37.600 --> 00:37:39.440
<v Speaker 3>They put a new costume on them.</v>

00:37:39.440 --> 00:37:42.320
<v Speaker 3>They put Lutheran words on them in our church.</v>

00:37:42.320 --> 00:37:46.880
<v Speaker 3>In other churches, it's it's gonna be whatever Christian vernacular you use.</v>

00:37:46.880 --> 00:37:51.120
<v Speaker 3>So that the Shibbolus, the you are programmed and indoctrinated to respond</v>

00:37:51.120 --> 00:37:55.040
<v Speaker 3>to will cause you to accept what they're saying even though it</v>

00:37:55.040 --> 00:37:57.200
<v Speaker 3>doesn't sound like anything you've ever heard.</v>

00:37:57.200 --> 00:37:59.920
<v Speaker 3>And even though it might be contrary to things that you've been</v>

00:37:59.920 --> 00:38:04.640
<v Speaker 3>taught in the past correctly, because because you bent off scripture.</v>

00:38:04.640 --> 00:38:09.280
<v Speaker 3>When th they sprinkle Jesus dust on it, you as a Christian</v>

00:38:09.360 --> 00:38:13.360
<v Speaker 3>who trusts the institution and who loves Jesus and wants to obey</v>

00:38:13.360 --> 00:38:17.840
<v Speaker 3>his commands, when a pastor says to you, I command you in</v>

00:38:17.840 --> 00:38:20.400
<v Speaker 3>the name of God to believe this because I'm a pastor and</v>

00:38:20.400 --> 00:38:26.880
<v Speaker 3>this is from God, that's an impossible situation for the average layman</v>

00:38:27.040 --> 00:38:28.880
<v Speaker 3>when what they're teaching is false.</v>

00:38:29.200 --> 00:38:34.720
<v Speaker 3>And unfortunately, we feel that we must arm people today to understand</v>

00:38:34.720 --> 00:38:38.160
<v Speaker 3>when that's happening because they're always going to say they're just being</v>

00:38:38.160 --> 00:38:41.760
<v Speaker 3>reasonable. They're always going to say this is what Christians have always</v>

00:38:41.760 --> 00:38:46.160
<v Speaker 3>taught. And it's really interesting when when they make that play, they</v>

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<v Speaker 3>will maybe they'll point back to some document that was written in</v>

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<v Speaker 3>1994 or maybe as late as the 60s.</v>

00:38:51.520 --> 00:38:54.240
<v Speaker 3>But then you know the next document that they look at, it's</v>

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<v Speaker 3>gonna be scripture.</v>

00:38:55.680 --> 00:38:59.680
<v Speaker 3>Now we talked about that in in several read in several episodes.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>What happened to the other nineteen hundred years of Christian history?</v>

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<v Speaker 3>If you say that you found something in the Bible</v>

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<v Speaker 3>and then you found it in the 60s and in the 90s,</v>

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<v Speaker 3>and you're telling us today that we have to believe it, where's</v>

00:39:13.040 --> 00:39:15.680
<v Speaker 3>the rest of Christian history believing the same thing?</v>

00:39:15.680 --> 00:39:19.600
<v Speaker 3>Because if you can't make that case, then you must either accuse</v>

00:39:19.600 --> 00:39:23.920
<v Speaker 3>all Christians before us of being heretics, of lying in God's name</v>

00:39:24.000 --> 00:39:28.880
<v Speaker 3>and believing falsely, and risking damnation, or you have to admit that</v>

00:39:28.880 --> 00:39:30.640
<v Speaker 3>you're teaching a new doctrine.</v>

00:39:30.640 --> 00:39:34.560
<v Speaker 3>And these guys will say, oh, we're being reasonable while they're teaching</v>

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<v Speaker 3>things that are fundamentally new to the church.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>And that's incredibly dangerous.</v>

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And

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<v Speaker 2>this, of course, ties right into the issue of politics.</v>

00:39:44.640 --> 00:39:50.400
<v Speaker 2>Because many Christians have been trained, and they should probably investigate the</v>

00:39:50.400 --> 00:39:53.440
<v Speaker 2>source of that training, but they have been trained to believe that,</v>

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<v Speaker 2>oh well there's politics, and then the church is something else.</v>

00:39:58.480 --> 00:40:03.520
<v Speaker 2>That there's this division between a political realm where apparently Christ is</v>

00:40:03.520 --> 00:40:07.600
<v Speaker 2>not king and the church where Christ is of course king.</v>

00:40:07.600 --> 00:40:09.440
<v Speaker 2>And that's just false.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, as long as Lutherans, we do have a sort of two</v>

00:40:13.200 --> 00:40:17.920
<v Speaker 2>kingdoms doctrine, but so many misunderstand what that means.</v>

00:40:17.920 --> 00:40:22.400
<v Speaker 2>Because it's always rendered in a shorthand instead of the fullness of</v>

00:40:22.400 --> 00:40:26.000
<v Speaker 2>what the terms actually are because it is the kingdom of the</v>

00:40:26.000 --> 00:40:31.040
<v Speaker 2>right hand of Christ is the church, and the kingdom of the</v>

00:40:31.040 --> 00:40:34.720
<v Speaker 2>left hand of Christ is the state.</v>

00:40:34.720 --> 00:40:38.800
<v Speaker 2>And our confessions are very clear that those who rule in the</v>

00:40:38.800 --> 00:40:42.960
<v Speaker 2>state also have a duty to ensure that the scriptures are rightly</v>

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<v Speaker 2>taught in their realms.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>The head of state will have to answer what he did with</v>

00:40:47.920 --> 00:40:50.880
<v Speaker 2>the sheep God gave him the same as a pastor will have</v>

00:40:50.880 --> 00:40:52.080
<v Speaker 2>to answer.</v>

00:40:52.080 --> 00:40:56.400
<v Speaker 2>Yes, they have different duties, but the duty of the prince or</v>

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<v Speaker 2>the king is not exclusively secular to use a term that is</v>

00:41:02.880 --> 00:41:06.240
<v Speaker 2>not a very good term, but people will understand what is meant.</v>

00:41:06.240 --> 00:41:10.080
<v Speaker 2>The prince still has a duty with regard to the things of</v>

00:41:10.080 --> 00:41:14.400
<v Speaker 2>God, because he has been given his position of authority and power</v>

00:41:14.400 --> 00:41:19.760
<v Speaker 2>by God, and that comes with certain duties.</v>

00:41:19.760 --> 00:41:24.160
<v Speaker 2>But there's also the issue of hierarchy, just to quickly talk about</v>

00:41:24.480 --> 00:41:28.160
<v Speaker 2>institutions and what happens when they're co-opted again.</v>

00:41:28.160 --> 00:41:34.080
<v Speaker 2>When an institution is co opted, Satan achieves two victories.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>For a period of time he gets to use that institution to</v>

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<v Speaker 2>teach his doctrines what With the authority the institution has because of</v>

00:41:44.160 --> 00:41:46.480
<v Speaker 2>its history, what it used to be.</v>

00:41:46.480 --> 00:41:52.800
<v Speaker 2>And then additionally, he has destroyed an institution that probably took generations</v>

00:41:52.800 --> 00:41:56.400
<v Speaker 2>to build, and any replacement will also take generations to build.</v>

00:41:56.400 --> 00:41:58.720
<v Speaker 2>So that's a twofold victory.</v>

00:41:58.720 --> 00:42:02.320
<v Speaker 2>And then of course the problem that flows from that is how</v>

00:42:02.320 --> 00:42:07.040
<v Speaker 2>does a layman or a parish pastor deal with that problem?</v>

00:42:07.040 --> 00:42:10.320
<v Speaker 2>Because if things get corrupted at the highest level and that filters</v>

00:42:10.320 --> 00:42:13.040
<v Speaker 2>down, by the time it gets into the parish and is taught</v>

00:42:13.040 --> 00:42:19.280
<v Speaker 2>to layman, the corruption has probably existed for generations.</v>

00:42:19.280 --> 00:42:22.720
<v Speaker 2>Because Satan doesn't tend to move very quickly with these things.</v>

00:42:22.720 --> 00:42:25.520
<v Speaker 2>He's not patient, but at the same time he is because he</v>

00:42:25.520 --> 00:42:27.440
<v Speaker 2>has a lot of time on his hands.</v>

00:42:27.440 --> 00:42:30.800
<v Speaker 2>He doesn't live for eighty or eighty-five years and then have to</v>

00:42:31.200 --> 00:42:33.040
<v Speaker 2>pass things off to the next generation.</v>

00:42:33.040 --> 00:42:33.760
<v Speaker 2>Humans do.</v>

00:42:33.840 --> 00:42:36.400
<v Speaker 2>We have to do things generationally.</v>

00:42:36.400 --> 00:42:39.120
<v Speaker 2>He doesn't have that limitation.</v>

00:42:39.120 --> 00:42:42.240
<v Speaker 2>And so by the time it gets down into the parish, you</v>

00:42:42.240 --> 00:42:45.920
<v Speaker 2>have generations of rot you have to deal with, you may very</v>

00:42:45.920 --> 00:42:50.000
<v Speaker 2>well have to rebuild your institutions from the ground up, because they</v>

00:42:50.000 --> 00:42:54.320
<v Speaker 2>may have been so thoroughly corrupted that you cannot salvage them.</v>

00:42:54.320 --> 00:42:57.280
<v Speaker 2>I'm not saying that our institutions are necessarily that far That far</v>

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<v Speaker 2>gone at this point.</v>

00:43:00.560 --> 00:43:05.920
<v Speaker 2>But they are certainly far gone in some regards, even in the</v>

00:43:05.920 --> 00:43:09.200
<v Speaker 2>Lutheran Church Missouri Synod.</v>

00:43:09.200 --> 00:43:09.760
<v Speaker 2>And so</v>

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<v Speaker 2>Speaking of how these things are sold, it's really a difference between</v>

00:43:17.120 --> 00:43:18.640
<v Speaker 2>the soft sell and the hard sell.</v>

00:43:18.640 --> 00:43:22.960
<v Speaker 2>Anyone who's familiar with marketing and advertising and related things.</v>

00:43:22.960 --> 00:43:25.520
<v Speaker 2>We'll understand the difference between a soft cell and a hard cell.</v>

00:43:25.760 --> 00:43:27.600
<v Speaker 2>And basically it's just the type of approach.</v>

00:43:27.600 --> 00:43:32.400
<v Speaker 2>The soft sell is the easier approach you sort of subtly influence</v>

00:43:32.400 --> 00:43:35.760
<v Speaker 2>someone to come around to your position to sell them on something.</v>

00:43:35.760 --> 00:43:41.280
<v Speaker 2>The hard cell is very much more upfront, blunt, forceful.</v>

00:43:41.280 --> 00:43:44.160
<v Speaker 2>Christianity is more of the hard cell.</v>

00:43:44.160 --> 00:43:47.280
<v Speaker 2>Because you start with the law, and the law is a hard</v>

00:43:47.280 --> 00:43:50.240
<v Speaker 2>cell. Satan is the exact opposite.</v>

00:43:50.240 --> 00:43:52.560
<v Speaker 2>Satan is the soft sell.</v>

00:43:52.560 --> 00:43:57.440
<v Speaker 2>Because Satan is going to tell you what you're doing is fine,</v>

00:43:57.440 --> 00:44:01.200
<v Speaker 2>but, and if you're currently sinning and ignoring God, he's just going</v>

00:44:01.200 --> 00:44:02.160
<v Speaker 2>to tell you what you're doing is fine.</v>

00:44:02.160 --> 00:44:04.320
<v Speaker 2>Keep doing it, have fun.</v>

00:44:04.320 --> 00:44:09.360
<v Speaker 2>But if you're a Christian or you're trying to follow God, he'll</v>

00:44:09.360 --> 00:44:13.040
<v Speaker 2>tell you what you're doing is good, but it could be a</v>

00:44:13.040 --> 00:44:13.920
<v Speaker 2>little better.</v>

00:44:13.920 --> 00:44:15.280
<v Speaker 2>So maybe do this.</v>

00:44:15.280 --> 00:44:16.640
<v Speaker 2>And it'll be a small change.</v>

00:44:16.640 --> 00:44:19.520
<v Speaker 2>And it seems like a small innocuous change.</v>

00:44:19.520 --> 00:44:22.480
<v Speaker 2>It doesn't seem like something that is big, it doesn't seem like</v>

00:44:22.480 --> 00:44:26.160
<v Speaker 2>you've set your foot down on the wrong path, but then there'll</v>

00:44:26.160 --> 00:44:28.720
<v Speaker 2>be another one, and another one, and another one.</v>

00:44:29.760 --> 00:44:33.360
<v Speaker 2>And if you're on the wrong path, well it actually only takes</v>

00:44:33.360 --> 00:44:35.760
<v Speaker 2>that one first step to be on the wrong path, and every</v>

00:44:35.760 --> 00:44:39.840
<v Speaker 2>additional step down that path is worse because you are still heading</v>

00:44:39.840 --> 00:44:41.520
<v Speaker 2>down the wrong path.</v>

00:44:41.520 --> 00:44:43.680
<v Speaker 2>That's the way that Satan works.</v>

00:44:43.680 --> 00:44:48.880
<v Speaker 2>It's small, it's incrementalism, it's ratcheting, and that's where the reasonableness comes</v>

00:44:48.880 --> 00:44:53.040
<v Speaker 2>in. Because as soon as you've accepted step one and step two</v>

00:44:53.280 --> 00:44:57.280
<v Speaker 2>and step three, then there comes the argument, well step four is</v>

00:44:57.280 --> 00:45:00.480
<v Speaker 2>just reasonable as an extension of these others.</v>

00:45:00.480 --> 00:45:04.080
<v Speaker 2>And obviously you can't go backward, there's your ratchet, because if you</v>

00:45:04.080 --> 00:45:08.800
<v Speaker 2>go backward, well, that would be unreasonable because we've made progress with</v>

00:45:08.800 --> 00:45:12.720
<v Speaker 2>these steps, so we have to keep going in the same direction.</v>

00:45:12.720 --> 00:45:15.440
<v Speaker 2>And that's how this reasonableness works.</v>

00:45:15.440 --> 00:45:20.480
<v Speaker 2>It makes it so that it's unthinkable to turn around and look</v>

00:45:20.480 --> 00:45:24.080
<v Speaker 2>at the path and look at where you actually made your error,</v>

00:45:24.080 --> 00:45:26.720
<v Speaker 2>where you actually went astray, because it would be unreasonable to do</v>

00:45:26.720 --> 00:45:30.000
<v Speaker 2>that. No, we have to forge forward and keep going and take</v>

00:45:30.000 --> 00:45:32.080
<v Speaker 2>these additional steps.</v>

00:45:32.080 --> 00:45:33.280
<v Speaker 2>That's what Satan wants to do.</v>

00:45:33.520 --> 00:45:36.640
<v Speaker 2>Satan does not want you to look at the source of these</v>

00:45:36.640 --> 00:45:40.880
<v Speaker 2>things. Because if you look at the source, you'll see him eventually</v>

00:45:40.880 --> 00:45:43.840
<v Speaker 2>standing behind one of the men in that line.</v>

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And

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<v Speaker 3>that's the greatest trick that these men play in the church when</v>

00:45:49.440 --> 00:45:51.520
<v Speaker 3>they sprinkle the Jesus dust.</v>

00:45:51.520 --> 00:45:55.280
<v Speaker 3>Because again, they have a brand new idea, it's brand new doctrine.</v>

00:45:55.280 --> 00:45:58.880
<v Speaker 3>In some cases in the 21st century, some of the examples we're</v>

00:45:58.880 --> 00:46:01.840
<v Speaker 3>going to get into when we talk about the large cataclysm are</v>

00:46:01.840 --> 00:46:03.520
<v Speaker 3>cutting edge evil.</v>

00:46:03.680 --> 00:46:06.480
<v Speaker 3>We're not even in the we're not 20 years behind like we</v>

00:46:06.480 --> 00:46:07.280
<v Speaker 3>typically are.</v>

00:46:07.280 --> 00:46:10.400
<v Speaker 3>The things that are happening in our church today are cutting edge.</v>

00:46:10.400 --> 00:46:13.200
<v Speaker 3>And so when these guys try to say, oh well I found</v>

00:46:13.200 --> 00:46:16.640
<v Speaker 3>it in scripture, again, how did you find it in scripture when</v>

00:46:16.640 --> 00:46:19.120
<v Speaker 3>it was missed for two thousand years?</v>

00:46:19.120 --> 00:46:22.640
<v Speaker 3>How did you find it today in twenty twenty-three?</v>

00:46:22.640 --> 00:46:25.280
<v Speaker 3>Why was it missed all of that time?</v>

00:46:26.080 --> 00:46:26.400
<v Speaker 3>And</v>

00:46:27.920 --> 00:46:32.160
<v Speaker 3>the as Corey said, there's there's the ratcheting effect where the one</v>

00:46:32.160 --> 00:46:35.440
<v Speaker 3>small thing, the first little thing that they want to change, where</v>

00:46:35.440 --> 00:46:37.360
<v Speaker 3>they're using wording that if you're familiar</v>

00:46:38.480 --> 00:46:39.600
<v Speaker 3>with the</v>

00:46:40.640 --> 00:46:44.240
<v Speaker 3>the left hand kingdom activity that is well ahead of the right</v>

00:46:44.240 --> 00:46:46.160
<v Speaker 3>hand for most of this stuff.</v>

00:46:46.160 --> 00:46:50.560
<v Speaker 3>The world has been going to hell in Marxist terms for 150</v>

00:46:50.560 --> 00:46:55.280
<v Speaker 3>years. The church is now rapidly catching up, and the same words</v>

00:46:55.280 --> 00:47:00.080
<v Speaker 3>are being used by the same people to the same ends, with</v>

00:47:00.080 --> 00:47:04.000
<v Speaker 3>the same malevolent animating force.</v>

00:47:04.000 --> 00:47:08.560
<v Speaker 3>And the way the reason that the reasonableness argument is so effective</v>

00:47:08.560 --> 00:47:12.640
<v Speaker 3>in the church is that again, you're not supposed to hate, you're</v>

00:47:12.640 --> 00:47:16.160
<v Speaker 3>not supposed to even disagree, you're not supposed to dislike, you must</v>

00:47:16.160 --> 00:47:17.600
<v Speaker 3>have peace in church.</v>

00:47:17.600 --> 00:47:22.320
<v Speaker 3>We're told that peace is a sign of God's presence.</v>

00:47:22.320 --> 00:47:24.240
<v Speaker 3>That's not what Scripture says.</v>

00:47:24.240 --> 00:47:27.920
<v Speaker 3>Jesus says, I came to divide two against three, the households will</v>

00:47:27.920 --> 00:47:28.880
<v Speaker 3>be divided.</v>

00:47:28.880 --> 00:47:33.200
<v Speaker 3>Scripture says that false doctrine will be taught among you so the</v>

00:47:33.200 --> 00:47:36.080
<v Speaker 3>true doctrine may be known.</v>

00:47:36.080 --> 00:47:42.480
<v Speaker 3>Conflict is inherent in the Word of God because Satan opposes it.</v>

00:47:42.480 --> 00:47:44.720
<v Speaker 3>That's the inherent conflict.</v>

00:47:44.720 --> 00:47:49.680
<v Speaker 3>God speaks truth, Satan speaks lies, and men will choose one or</v>

00:47:49.680 --> 00:47:50.480
<v Speaker 3>the other.</v>

00:47:50.480 --> 00:47:55.760
<v Speaker 3>And so when the very first little debauchery is introduced inside the</v>

00:47:55.760 --> 00:47:59.280
<v Speaker 3>church, the man The man who can smell it when no one</v>

00:47:59.280 --> 00:48:03.760
<v Speaker 3>else can is going to do what everyone else thinks is overreacting.</v>

00:48:03.760 --> 00:48:05.600
<v Speaker 3>It's going to look unreasonable.</v>

00:48:05.600 --> 00:48:09.440
<v Speaker 3>How can you possibly say that this one small wording change is</v>

00:48:09.440 --> 00:48:10.400
<v Speaker 3>a big deal?</v>

00:48:10.400 --> 00:48:12.800
<v Speaker 3>It's just a few words, and if you would just read it</v>

00:48:12.800 --> 00:48:15.360
<v Speaker 3>in context, it would seem just fine.</v>

00:48:15.360 --> 00:48:16.800
<v Speaker 3>You're overreacting.</v>

00:48:16.800 --> 00:48:19.840
<v Speaker 3>You're not being reasonable.</v>

00:48:19.840 --> 00:48:23.920
<v Speaker 3>The reason that God needs men to appear unreasonable and to be</v>

00:48:23.920 --> 00:48:25.120
<v Speaker 3>slandered with those words is</v>

00:48:26.000 --> 00:48:29.440
<v Speaker 3>because God and man who is faithful to him knows that the</v>

00:48:29.440 --> 00:48:32.160
<v Speaker 3>next step is the same next step that we see in the</v>

00:48:32.160 --> 00:48:36.160
<v Speaker 3>world, and that when you legitimize, even in the name of Jesus,</v>

00:48:36.160 --> 00:48:40.320
<v Speaker 3>some sin and say, Well, hate the sin, but love the sinner,</v>

00:48:40.320 --> 00:48:46.080
<v Speaker 3>there's an and then that's hidden in the periphery of that sentence.</v>

00:48:46.080 --> 00:48:47.920
<v Speaker 3>It's unspoken, but it's there.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>And Satan knows what is next move because he's already done it</v>

00:48:50.640 --> 00:48:51.520
<v Speaker 3>everywhere else.</v>

00:48:51.520 --> 00:48:54.320
<v Speaker 3>And so if a man has been paying attention to the world</v>

00:48:54.480 --> 00:48:58.160
<v Speaker 3>and then he sees the world encroaching on his church, he's going</v>

00:48:58.160 --> 00:49:02.800
<v Speaker 3>to look extremely unreasonable when he says, not on my watch.</v>

00:49:02.800 --> 00:49:04.720
<v Speaker 3>You're not going to start any of that here.</v>

00:49:04.720 --> 00:49:07.280
<v Speaker 3>We're not having any of it.</v>

00:49:07.280 --> 00:49:10.880
<v Speaker 3>When the institutions are captured and the men in those in those</v>

00:49:10.880 --> 00:49:14.240
<v Speaker 3>institutions speak in soothing tones and they tell you, let's just be</v>

00:49:14.240 --> 00:49:15.520
<v Speaker 3>reasonable about this.</v>

00:49:15.520 --> 00:49:18.400
<v Speaker 3>Maybe we should have worded a little bit differently, but it's still</v>

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<v Speaker 3>okay. Our intentions were good.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>That's the second problem.</v>

00:49:23.120 --> 00:49:26.080
<v Speaker 3>It's not simply that it was a lie, but that it was</v>

00:49:26.080 --> 00:49:30.160
<v Speaker 3>a lie that was accepted at an institutional level because when you</v>

00:49:30.160 --> 00:49:33.920
<v Speaker 3>know the source and the genesis and the genealogy of the lie,</v>

00:49:33.920 --> 00:49:36.640
<v Speaker 3>you know they cannot possibly have come from scripture.</v>

00:49:36.640 --> 00:49:40.800
<v Speaker 3>And so either we as a church have men who can no</v>

00:49:40.800 --> 00:49:44.160
<v Speaker 3>longer read scripture scripture and hear God's voice, or we have men</v>

00:49:44.640 --> 00:49:46.960
<v Speaker 3>who simply don't care to.</v>

00:49:46.960 --> 00:49:49.520
<v Speaker 3>Either way we have a problem that needs to be solved.</v>

00:49:49.520 --> 00:49:51.280
<v Speaker 3>And that's not just an LCMS problem.</v>

00:49:51.280 --> 00:49:52.720
<v Speaker 3>It's a problem for every church.</v>

00:49:52.720 --> 00:49:56.160
<v Speaker 3>We're not as far down this path as many, but there are</v>

00:49:56.240 --> 00:49:58.960
<v Speaker 3>a lot of men in this co in in this synod who</v>

00:49:58.960 --> 00:50:00.960
<v Speaker 3>are trying really hard to catch us up.</v>

00:50:00.960 --> 00:50:03.280
<v Speaker 3>And there are also a lot of men in this synod who</v>

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<v Speaker 3>are trying really hard to fight it.</v>

00:50:05.280 --> 00:50:07.920
<v Speaker 3>Unfortunately, the men who are trying to fight it are by and</v>

00:50:07.920 --> 00:50:11.840
<v Speaker 3>large not equipped for this particular battle.</v>

00:50:11.840 --> 00:50:15.360
<v Speaker 3>Over and over we see guys who they're not going to fall</v>

00:50:15.360 --> 00:50:16.720
<v Speaker 3>for the reasonableness thing.</v>

00:50:16.720 --> 00:50:19.520
<v Speaker 3>They're willing to fight, but they want to fight the same fight</v>

00:50:19.520 --> 00:50:22.160
<v Speaker 3>that they fought 10 years ago or 20 years ago or 30</v>

00:50:22.160 --> 00:50:22.960
<v Speaker 3>years ago.</v>

00:50:22.960 --> 00:50:28.560
<v Speaker 3>So So you see framing that's done by the good guys who</v>

00:50:28.560 --> 00:50:32.720
<v Speaker 3>want to oppose the evil, but it's not framing in the terms</v>

00:50:32.720 --> 00:50:35.520
<v Speaker 3>that of battle that Satan is giving us today.</v>

00:50:35.520 --> 00:50:38.640
<v Speaker 3>They're trying to pick a bat to pick a fight to win</v>

00:50:38.640 --> 00:50:41.040
<v Speaker 3>a battle that they know how to win.</v>

00:50:41.040 --> 00:50:42.720
<v Speaker 3>You can't do that.</v>

00:50:42.720 --> 00:50:44.000
<v Speaker 3>Satan gets a vote.</v>

00:50:44.000 --> 00:50:48.320
<v Speaker 3>The bad guy who's choosing the battleground has already decided what issue</v>

00:50:48.320 --> 00:50:49.680
<v Speaker 3>you're going to fight on next.</v>

00:50:49.680 --> 00:50:54.000
<v Speaker 3>You don't get to try to Aikido that and reverse that momentum</v>

00:50:54.080 --> 00:50:56.560
<v Speaker 3>so that you can fight some other battle.</v>

00:50:56.560 --> 00:50:59.200
<v Speaker 3>If you do that, you're just you're gonna fall on your own</v>

00:50:59.200 --> 00:51:02.400
<v Speaker 3>face because the real battle is in the other room.</v>

00:51:02.400 --> 00:51:06.800
<v Speaker 3>And if you try to change the terms of the fight without</v>

00:51:06.800 --> 00:51:10.960
<v Speaker 3>engaging it where it is, you're still setting yourself up for failure,</v>

00:51:10.960 --> 00:51:13.440
<v Speaker 3>even if you have the will to fight.</v>

00:51:13.440 --> 00:51:17.120
<v Speaker 3>So we're talking about these things to equip such men to see</v>

00:51:17.120 --> 00:51:20.880
<v Speaker 3>clearly what is going on, what is the force behind it, what</v>

00:51:20.880 --> 00:51:23.200
<v Speaker 3>does it sound and smell like, and what do we do about</v>

00:51:23.200 --> 00:51:28.240
<v Speaker 3>it? We're not going to talk so much about solutions because again,</v>

00:51:28.240 --> 00:51:29.920
<v Speaker 3>these are church institutions.</v>

00:51:29.920 --> 00:51:32.960
<v Speaker 3>We have our opinions, but that's all they are.</v>

00:51:33.680 --> 00:51:36.720
<v Speaker 3>Whether or not we even share them, whether or not anyone listens,</v>

00:51:36.720 --> 00:51:42.080
<v Speaker 3>it would still ultimately be the function of the machinery itself to</v>

00:51:42.080 --> 00:51:45.040
<v Speaker 3>auto-correct. Personally, I don't think that's possible.</v>

00:51:45.040 --> 00:51:47.760
<v Speaker 3>I don't think that there's anything there that can be saved.</v>

00:51:47.760 --> 00:51:48.960
<v Speaker 3>Time will tell.</v>

00:51:48.960 --> 00:51:50.480
<v Speaker 3>If I'm wrong, thank God.</v>

00:51:50.480 --> 00:51:53.920
<v Speaker 3>And if I'm right, I pray to God that something will replace</v>

00:51:53.920 --> 00:51:57.040
<v Speaker 3>it that we'll be faithful where we have failed.</v>

00:51:57.040 --> 00:52:01.920
<v Speaker 3>But between here and there, there are men in this church who</v>

00:52:01.920 --> 00:52:06.320
<v Speaker 3>are not going to respond to the let's just be reasonable argument.</v>

00:52:06.320 --> 00:52:09.520
<v Speaker 3>There's a quote that I want to read from uh Mark Quart,</v>

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<v Speaker 3>or sorry, from uh Walther.</v>

00:52:11.280 --> 00:52:13.920
<v Speaker 3>This is again from the Mark Whart paper that we've referred to</v>

00:52:13.920 --> 00:52:17.920
<v Speaker 3>a few times that Gottestine's post regarding uh on the question of</v>

00:52:17.920 --> 00:52:20.800
<v Speaker 3>theological controversies.</v>

00:52:20.800 --> 00:52:25.360
<v Speaker 3>Walther writes: Never has there been so much talk about love as</v>

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<v Speaker 3>in our day.</v>

00:52:26.240 --> 00:52:30.000
<v Speaker 3>Love has become the slogan and watchword of those who claim to</v>

00:52:30.000 --> 00:52:32.960
<v Speaker 3>be Christians, as well as those who do not care to be</v>

00:52:32.960 --> 00:52:34.000
<v Speaker 3>called Christians.</v>

00:52:34.000 --> 00:52:37.200
<v Speaker 3>Now what do such Christians mean when they speak about love?</v>

00:52:37.200 --> 00:52:40.800
<v Speaker 3>They mean above all, as they express it, that in matters of</v>

00:52:40.800 --> 00:52:46.080
<v Speaker 3>faith one must exhibit tolerance, that is endurance, indulgence, and the spirit</v>

00:52:46.080 --> 00:52:50.000
<v Speaker 3>of compromise, that one must not be so exact in regard to</v>

00:52:50.000 --> 00:52:53.760
<v Speaker 3>purity of doctrine, nor criticize the departure from the Word of God</v>

00:52:53.760 --> 00:52:58.240
<v Speaker 3>as strenuously as was done in olden times, and that we ought,</v>

00:52:58.240 --> 00:53:02.240
<v Speaker 3>therefore, also recognize those as a brethren who are not willing to</v>

00:53:02.240 --> 00:53:05.200
<v Speaker 3>obey the word of God in some points, as long as they</v>

00:53:05.200 --> 00:53:08.720
<v Speaker 3>will accept a few especially important articles of faith.</v>

00:53:08.960 --> 00:53:09.840
<v Speaker 3>But how?</v>

00:53:09.840 --> 00:53:13.200
<v Speaker 3>Should that really be a true description of Christian love?</v>

00:53:13.200 --> 00:53:16.240
<v Speaker 3>Does not the word of God say the very opposite?</v>

00:53:16.240 --> 00:53:21.520
<v Speaker 3>Charity rejoiceth not in the iniquity, but rejoices in the truth.</v>

00:53:21.520 --> 00:53:25.760
<v Speaker 3>Such Christians who out of love tolerate false doctrine are like the</v>

00:53:25.760 --> 00:53:28.720
<v Speaker 3>man who is very liberal and charitable towards the poor.</v>

00:53:28.720 --> 00:53:31.360
<v Speaker 3>What he gave them, however, he did not take from his own</v>

00:53:31.360 --> 00:53:35.680
<v Speaker 3>goods, from what he had secretly stolen from others, that he openly</v>

00:53:35.680 --> 00:53:39.920
<v Speaker 3>gave to the poor, for what are those Christians doing but robbing</v>

00:53:39.920 --> 00:53:43.920
<v Speaker 3>God of His Word, His truth, His glory, and thereby giving the</v>

00:53:43.920 --> 00:53:48.240
<v Speaker 3>impression that they have more love than others, who adhere strictly to</v>

00:53:48.240 --> 00:53:49.440
<v Speaker 3>God's word.</v>

00:53:49.440 --> 00:53:53.520
<v Speaker 3>Just how little love such people really possess may be seen by</v>

00:53:53.520 --> 00:53:57.840
<v Speaker 3>their attitude towards those who take them to task for the indifference</v>

00:53:57.840 --> 00:53:59.040
<v Speaker 3>to the truth.</v>

00:53:59.040 --> 00:54:04.720
<v Speaker 3>Again, such true disciples, they are mostly filled with rancor, venom, and</v>

00:54:04.720 --> 00:54:07.200
<v Speaker 3>bitter enmity.</v>

00:54:07.200 --> 00:54:11.840
<v Speaker 3>Now, that was Luther writing or Walther writing in 1933 thirty five,</v>

00:54:11.840 --> 00:54:14.960
<v Speaker 3>but it pretty well describes the fight that we're having today.</v>

00:54:14.960 --> 00:54:19.040
<v Speaker 3>And back to the you know the main thesis of this episode,</v>

00:54:19.040 --> 00:54:20.320
<v Speaker 3>there's a playbook.</v>

00:54:20.320 --> 00:54:25.120
<v Speaker 3>The reason Walthor is describing similar situations, it's not just the human</v>

00:54:25.120 --> 00:54:30.080
<v Speaker 3>nature is consistent, it's that the strategy being employed within the church</v>

00:54:30.080 --> 00:54:34.160
<v Speaker 3>to destroy it has consistency because there's a playbook.</v>

00:54:34.160 --> 00:54:36.000
<v Speaker 3>Satan knows that what works.</v>

00:54:36.000 --> 00:54:39.440
<v Speaker 3>He knows that if you take a lukewarm Christian and give him</v>

00:54:39.440 --> 00:54:44.720
<v Speaker 3>a lukewarm quasi-Christian argument that doesn't actually pass the smell test, but</v>

00:54:44.720 --> 00:54:49.120
<v Speaker 3>has a few of the correct words attached, the lukewarm Christian will</v>

00:54:49.120 --> 00:54:52.000
<v Speaker 3>not hear that it's not his master's voice.</v>

00:54:52.000 --> 00:54:53.120
<v Speaker 3>He'll think, oh yeah, love.</v>

00:54:53.120 --> 00:54:54.000
<v Speaker 3>That that's really important.</v>

00:54:54.000 --> 00:54:55.440
<v Speaker 3>I need to do that.</v>

00:54:55.680 --> 00:55:00.160
<v Speaker 3>That's true in some contexts, but the love of God sometimes requires</v>

00:55:00.160 --> 00:55:01.280
<v Speaker 3>the hatred of evil.</v>

00:55:01.280 --> 00:55:03.680
<v Speaker 3>In fact it always requires the hatred of evil.</v>

00:55:03.680 --> 00:55:06.880
<v Speaker 3>The sometimes is that sometimes evil is not present.</v>

00:55:06.880 --> 00:55:10.800
<v Speaker 3>And so we don't want to be hyper-reactive or over-reactive, but to</v>

00:55:10.800 --> 00:55:14.640
<v Speaker 3>be precisely reactive when evil is in our midst.</v>

00:55:14.640 --> 00:55:20.880
<v Speaker 3>And when evil is detected, you cannot have a reasonable response, not</v>

00:55:20.880 --> 00:55:22.400
<v Speaker 3>in the worldly sense.</v>

00:55:22.400 --> 00:55:27.360
<v Speaker 3>The only reasonable response to evil is the response that Christ had</v>

00:55:27.360 --> 00:55:32.000
<v Speaker 3>when he overthrew the moneylenders' tables and he drove them out with</v>

00:55:32.000 --> 00:55:32.960
<v Speaker 3>a whip.</v>

00:55:32.960 --> 00:55:38.080
<v Speaker 3>Sometimes when evil is in your midst, you do not talk about</v>

00:55:38.080 --> 00:55:40.000
<v Speaker 3>it. You don't try to argue it.</v>

00:55:40.000 --> 00:55:41.920
<v Speaker 3>You don't discuss it in their terms.</v>

00:55:41.920 --> 00:55:43.440
<v Speaker 3>You don't try to be reasonable.</v>

00:55:43.440 --> 00:55:45.760
<v Speaker 3>You drive the evil from your midst.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>That's not necessarily step one.</v>

00:55:47.840 --> 00:55:50.800
<v Speaker 3>And it's not necessarily the only st strategy.</v>

00:55:50.800 --> 00:55:53.120
<v Speaker 3>Certainly there are other things that can be done.</v>

00:55:53.120 --> 00:55:55.680
<v Speaker 3>But there are absolutely times where</v>

00:55:56.560 --> 00:56:00.000
<v Speaker 3>making a whip and flipping tables and driving men out of the</v>

00:56:00.000 --> 00:56:02.080
<v Speaker 3>church is necessary.</v>

00:56:02.080 --> 00:56:06.320
<v Speaker 3>And the men who oppose these words don't want you to believe</v>

00:56:06.320 --> 00:56:07.120
<v Speaker 3>that's true.</v>

00:56:07.120 --> 00:56:10.160
<v Speaker 3>They don't want you to believe that Jesus actually did that or</v>

00:56:10.160 --> 00:56:12.640
<v Speaker 3>the the fact that he did it twice, well, maybe it was</v>

00:56:12.640 --> 00:56:16.560
<v Speaker 3>sin, or, you know, Jesus obviously can't sin, so but he's God,</v>

00:56:16.560 --> 00:56:18.240
<v Speaker 3>so whatever he does can't be sin.</v>

00:56:18.240 --> 00:56:21.440
<v Speaker 3>And so God's just capricious and when he does these things we</v>

00:56:21.440 --> 00:56:22.960
<v Speaker 3>just have to live with it.</v>

00:56:22.960 --> 00:56:24.640
<v Speaker 3>But we can't ever do that.</v>

00:56:24.720 --> 00:56:26.480
<v Speaker 3>I'm not saying flip tables at church.</v>

00:56:26.480 --> 00:56:27.840
<v Speaker 3>That's not something I would never do.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>I hope.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>I hope it never gets that bad.</v>

00:56:30.080 --> 00:56:33.120
<v Speaker 3>But I only say never because I hope it never gets that</v>

00:56:33.120 --> 00:56:36.160
<v Speaker 3>bad. If the day comes when tables need to be flipped</v>

00:56:37.920 --> 00:56:40.160
<v Speaker 3>Okay, I guess that's how it's gonna be.</v>

00:56:40.160 --> 00:56:42.880
<v Speaker 3>That's not my choice, but if it's the choice of those who</v>

00:56:42.880 --> 00:56:47.440
<v Speaker 3>are just saying just be reasonable while they continue to push evil,</v>

00:56:47.440 --> 00:56:50.800
<v Speaker 3>then the fight will continue on other by other means.</v>

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You

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<v Speaker 2>mentioned a few examples of the tools that are used for this</v>

00:56:58.240 --> 00:57:00.240
<v Speaker 2>fight by the other side.</v>

00:57:00.240 --> 00:57:04.240
<v Speaker 2>And I'd just like to run through really the the five main</v>

00:57:04.240 --> 00:57:06.880
<v Speaker 2>ones. There are many others, but we're not going to cover all</v>

00:57:06.880 --> 00:57:07.280
<v Speaker 2>of them.</v>

00:57:07.280 --> 00:57:09.520
<v Speaker 2>That's not the goal here.</v>

00:57:09.520 --> 00:57:13.440
<v Speaker 2>First is, and these are in no particular order, but first is</v>

00:57:13.440 --> 00:57:15.360
<v Speaker 2>best construction.</v>

00:57:15.360 --> 00:57:20.160
<v Speaker 2>And best construction has been turned into a cudgel that is used</v>

00:57:20.160 --> 00:57:24.560
<v Speaker 2>against anyone who actually wants to be faithful to scripture.</v>

00:57:24.560 --> 00:57:29.280
<v Speaker 2>Anyone who wants to oppose false teaching, false doctrine, false teachers.</v>

00:57:29.280 --> 00:57:34.960
<v Speaker 2>And best construction is first and foremost and primarily something that applies</v>

00:57:34.960 --> 00:57:37.280
<v Speaker 2>to your neighbor.</v>

00:57:37.280 --> 00:57:39.600
<v Speaker 2>Not to everyone in the world.</v>

00:57:39.600 --> 00:57:41.680
<v Speaker 2>You can't apply it to everyone in the world.</v>

00:57:41.680 --> 00:57:42.720
<v Speaker 2>That's insane.</v>

00:57:42.720 --> 00:57:44.640
<v Speaker 2>That is not the standard.</v>

00:57:44.640 --> 00:57:48.160
<v Speaker 2>That is not the teaching of scripture or the church.</v>

00:57:48.160 --> 00:57:50.560
<v Speaker 2>So if your neighbor, for instance.</v>

00:57:51.280 --> 00:57:53.840
<v Speaker 2>Keeps your weed whacker for an extra week.</v>

00:57:53.840 --> 00:57:55.760
<v Speaker 2>That's where best construction applies.</v>

00:57:55.760 --> 00:57:58.720
<v Speaker 2>You assume that he forgot, you don't assume he's trying to steal</v>

00:57:58.720 --> 00:58:04.720
<v Speaker 2>it. If a politician is doing something wicked, you don't assume that</v>

00:58:04.720 --> 00:58:07.040
<v Speaker 2>he has the best intentions.</v>

00:58:07.040 --> 00:58:09.840
<v Speaker 2>That is a totally different category.</v>

00:58:09.840 --> 00:58:14.320
<v Speaker 2>That is a totally different interaction, you have to respond differently.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>Second would be the hiding of divisions, or the holding forth of</v>

00:58:18.560 --> 00:58:20.000
<v Speaker 2>a false peace.</v>

00:58:20.000 --> 00:58:23.680
<v Speaker 2>That should bring to mind a verse from Jeremiah, of course, they</v>

00:58:23.840 --> 00:58:27.440
<v Speaker 2>have healed the wound of my people lightly saying peace, peace, where</v>

00:58:27.440 --> 00:58:29.520
<v Speaker 2>there is no peace.</v>

00:58:29.520 --> 00:58:34.560
<v Speaker 2>We are not to simply cover, shove under the rug these divisions</v>

00:58:34.560 --> 00:58:36.560
<v Speaker 2>that crop up in the church.</v>

00:58:36.560 --> 00:58:41.680
<v Speaker 2>Because if there are legitimate divisions over doctrinal points, we have to</v>

00:58:41.680 --> 00:58:43.360
<v Speaker 2>hammer those out.</v>

00:58:43.360 --> 00:58:48.080
<v Speaker 2>There have been times in the history of our synod where there</v>

00:58:48.080 --> 00:58:52.880
<v Speaker 2>were divisions at a conference at a synodical meeting where they stopped</v>

00:58:52.880 --> 00:58:56.800
<v Speaker 2>all business and worked through it then and there, and either had</v>

00:58:56.800 --> 00:59:00.400
<v Speaker 2>the person who was teaching falsely repent or expelled him.</v>

00:59:00.400 --> 00:59:03.520
<v Speaker 2>That is how it is actually supposed to be done.</v>

00:59:03.520 --> 00:59:08.000
<v Speaker 2>Third would be winsomeness, which will drop a graph of the use</v>

00:59:08.000 --> 00:59:12.000
<v Speaker 2>of that term into the show notes because it demonstrates something that</v>

00:59:12.000 --> 00:59:14.240
<v Speaker 2>will be very obvious.</v>

00:59:14.240 --> 00:59:17.280
<v Speaker 2>This is made up nonsense.</v>

00:59:17.280 --> 00:59:23.680
<v Speaker 2>Winsomeness applies to a smile or some sort of habit someone has,</v>

00:59:23.680 --> 00:59:26.800
<v Speaker 2>winsomeness does not apply to an argument.</v>

00:59:26.800 --> 00:59:31.360
<v Speaker 2>An argument is true, an argument is convincing, an argument is effective,</v>

00:59:31.360 --> 00:59:33.520
<v Speaker 2>an argument is not winsome.</v>

00:59:33.520 --> 00:59:38.560
<v Speaker 2>This is Satan's soft cell, imported into the church.</v>

00:59:38.560 --> 00:59:42.080
<v Speaker 2>Four, as was brought up and discussed, is anti hatred.</v>

00:59:42.080 --> 00:59:46.080
<v Speaker 2>The idea that as a Christian, you cannot and should not hate</v>

00:59:46.080 --> 00:59:48.720
<v Speaker 2>anything, and of course, that's absolutely false.</v>

00:59:48.720 --> 00:59:52.800
<v Speaker 2>We've spoken to that issue in a previous episode.</v>

00:59:52.800 --> 00:59:55.360
<v Speaker 2>Appropriately titled, easy to find.</v>

00:59:55.360 --> 00:59:58.560
<v Speaker 2>Christians are called to hate certain things.</v>

00:59:58.560 --> 01:00:00.320
<v Speaker 2>Do I not hate those who hate you?</v>

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<v Speaker 2>I hate them with a perfect hatred I count them my enemies.</v>

01:00:04.960 --> 01:00:10.880
<v Speaker 2>Scripture uses the word hatred in many places throughout Scripture.</v>

01:00:10.880 --> 01:00:13.840
<v Speaker 2>It is the duty of the Christian to hate that which is</v>

01:00:13.840 --> 01:00:17.280
<v Speaker 2>wicked, and you cannot love that which is good unless you hate</v>

01:00:17.280 --> 01:00:18.640
<v Speaker 2>that which is wicked.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>And then fifth is tolerance.</v>

01:00:20.800 --> 01:00:25.600
<v Speaker 2>And this leads into unless there's something more to say on this</v>

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<v Speaker 2>point, our three main points, it leads into our third main point.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>Tolerance in the modern world is a satanic conception that came to</v>

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<v Speaker 2>us through a man called Carl Popper.</v>

01:00:39.600 --> 01:00:40.240
<v Speaker 2>Karl Popper</v>

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<v Speaker 2>was a Jewish philosopher from the Frankfurt School, and his conception of</v>

01:00:46.640 --> 01:00:50.720
<v Speaker 2>tolerance is what the modern world has inherited with what it has</v>

01:00:50.720 --> 01:00:52.240
<v Speaker 2>been infected.</v>

01:00:52.800 --> 01:00:57.360
<v Speaker 2>I'm going to read a quote from him on tolerance, and some</v>

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<v Speaker 2>I would hope most will see the problem here.</v>

01:01:00.560 --> 01:01:05.680
<v Speaker 2>Unlimited tolerance must lead to the disappearance of tolerance if we extend</v>

01:01:05.680 --> 01:01:09.760
<v Speaker 2>unlimited tolerance even to those who are intolerant, if we are not</v>

01:01:09.760 --> 01:01:14.400
<v Speaker 2>prepared to defend a tolerant society against the onslaught of the intolerant,</v>

01:01:14.400 --> 01:01:18.080
<v Speaker 2>then the tolerant will be destroyed, and tolerance with them.</v>

01:01:18.080 --> 01:01:21.680
<v Speaker 2>We should therefore claim, in the name of tolerance, the right not</v>

01:01:21.680 --> 01:01:24.880
<v Speaker 2>to tolerate the intolerant.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>Now one would hope that you could see the problem with this,</v>

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<v Speaker 2>because of course, tolerance isn't a thing.</v>

01:01:31.840 --> 01:01:33.680
<v Speaker 2>It means absolutely nothing.</v>

01:01:33.680 --> 01:01:39.040
<v Speaker 2>And you can see in this definition, it is self-defeating, is self-contradicting.</v>

01:01:39.040 --> 01:01:44.560
<v Speaker 2>All that tolerance means in the Marxist frame is that you must</v>

01:01:44.560 --> 01:01:49.280
<v Speaker 2>have tolerance, and that's you, the enemies of the Marxists, or just</v>

01:01:49.280 --> 01:01:51.360
<v Speaker 2>the average person who's being manipulated.</v>

01:01:51.360 --> 01:01:54.640
<v Speaker 2>You must have tolerance for the things the Marxists are doing, but</v>

01:01:54.640 --> 01:01:58.080
<v Speaker 2>anything that is done against them is intolerant, and therefore you don't</v>

01:01:58.000 --> 01:02:00.160
<v Speaker 2>have to tolerate that.</v>

01:02:00.160 --> 01:02:04.000
<v Speaker 2>Of course it's incoherent, but that's because it is a mercenary approach.</v>

01:02:04.000 --> 01:02:08.480
<v Speaker 2>It is ends seeking, it has no actual foundation other than of</v>

01:02:08.480 --> 01:02:10.960
<v Speaker 2>course the wickedness of Satan.</v>

01:02:10.960 --> 01:02:15.040
<v Speaker 2>And I mentioned Popper, if you want the two men who are</v>

01:02:15.040 --> 01:02:21.440
<v Speaker 2>probably most responsible for the current philosophical state of Marxism and therefore</v>

01:02:21.920 --> 01:02:25.360
<v Speaker 2>the state of things, our culture, our civilization in the West, it</v>

01:02:25.360 --> 01:02:29.920
<v Speaker 2>would be pauper and adorno, both Jewish philosophers from the Frankfurt School.</v>

01:02:29.920 --> 01:02:32.560
<v Speaker 2>I do not actually recommend reading them.</v>

01:02:32.560 --> 01:02:35.040
<v Speaker 2>Simply owning the book is kind of like having a portal to</v>

01:02:35.040 --> 01:02:40.960
<v Speaker 2>hell on your shelf, but Alinsky is probably the better read if</v>

01:02:40.960 --> 01:02:44.720
<v Speaker 2>someone is looking for more information because Alinsky gives the rule book.</v>

01:02:44.720 --> 01:02:46.480
<v Speaker 2>Alinsky is the practical one.</v>

01:02:46.480 --> 01:02:49.840
<v Speaker 2>He takes the evil ideas of these other men and he applies</v>

01:02:49.840 --> 01:02:52.480
<v Speaker 2>them. And so you have Popper and</v>

01:02:54.000 --> 01:02:57.760
<v Speaker 2>the others writing in the the forties and the fifties, Adorno was</v>

01:02:57.760 --> 01:02:58.480
<v Speaker 2>right around that time.</v>

01:02:58.480 --> 01:03:02.160
<v Speaker 2>His biggest work is The Authoritarian Personality, came out in 1950.</v>

01:03:02.160 --> 01:03:04.720
<v Speaker 2>Popper is The Open Society nineteen forty five.</v>

01:03:05.200 --> 01:03:10.400
<v Speaker 2>Rules for Radicals is nineteen seventy one right around there.</v>

01:03:10.960 --> 01:03:12.880
<v Speaker 2>Right around nineteen seventy at any rate.</v>

01:03:12.880 --> 01:03:17.360
<v Speaker 2>He gives the real rule book that our adversaries still follow to</v>

01:03:17.360 --> 01:03:21.600
<v Speaker 2>this day, even if they don't realize they're following it.</v>

01:03:21.600 --> 01:03:23.360
<v Speaker 2>And I actually want to make a point there.</v>

01:03:23.360 --> 01:03:29.280
<v Speaker 2>I want to highlight something that is vitally important to recognize.</v>

01:03:29.280 --> 01:03:35.600
<v Speaker 2>There are divisions within those who are advancing these ideas using these</v>

01:03:35.600 --> 01:03:39.040
<v Speaker 2>rules. There are some who do it wittingly and some who do</v>

01:03:39.040 --> 01:03:40.960
<v Speaker 2>it unwittingly.</v>

01:03:40.960 --> 01:03:42.960
<v Speaker 2>There are three groups.</v>

01:03:42.960 --> 01:03:47.120
<v Speaker 2>We have the adversaries, which would include the pastors who oppose us,</v>

01:03:47.120 --> 01:03:52.240
<v Speaker 2>who are unwittingly using these ideas they have imbibed from the world</v>

01:03:52.400 --> 01:03:56.480
<v Speaker 2>they have just absorbed osmotically from the world, uncritically.</v>

01:03:56.480 --> 01:04:01.600
<v Speaker 2>They are using them against us, but they are doing it unwittingly.</v>

01:04:01.600 --> 01:04:04.960
<v Speaker 2>So I would call them adversaries if I am being specific with</v>

01:04:04.960 --> 01:04:09.280
<v Speaker 2>my terms, because they are not, in fact, necessarily enemies.</v>

01:04:09.280 --> 01:04:16.080
<v Speaker 2>Now, if their usage becomes witting or malicious, they are then enemies,</v>

01:04:16.080 --> 01:04:18.640
<v Speaker 2>and within the category of enemies you have the witting and the</v>

01:04:18.640 --> 01:04:22.960
<v Speaker 2>unwitting, the vast bulk will always be unwitting.</v>

01:04:22.960 --> 01:04:26.800
<v Speaker 2>They hate you for various reasons that have been programmed into them,</v>

01:04:26.800 --> 01:04:28.640
<v Speaker 2>but they don't really understand why.</v>

01:04:28.640 --> 01:04:29.520
<v Speaker 2>They just respond.</v>

01:04:29.520 --> 01:04:30.720
<v Speaker 2>It's the NPC meme.</v>

01:04:30.720 --> 01:04:32.400
<v Speaker 2>Someone took the chip out and put in a new one, and</v>

01:04:32.400 --> 01:04:36.000
<v Speaker 2>so they hate you because the new chip says to hate you.</v>

01:04:36.000 --> 01:04:41.200
<v Speaker 2>The most dangerous are the witting enemies, those who understand these things,</v>

01:04:41.200 --> 01:04:44.560
<v Speaker 2>those who know the goals they are attempting to achieve, and are</v>

01:04:44.560 --> 01:04:49.840
<v Speaker 2>employing the philosophy, the ideology, and the rules to achieve those ends.</v>

01:04:50.320 --> 01:04:54.080
<v Speaker 2>They are the smallest group, but they are the most dangerous, and</v>

01:04:54.080 --> 01:04:58.560
<v Speaker 2>so it's just important to distinguish various groups from each other, and</v>

01:04:58.560 --> 01:05:03.920
<v Speaker 2>to recognize that the pastors again to repeat myself, by and large,</v>

01:05:03.920 --> 01:05:08.400
<v Speaker 2>those within the church who are using these things are doing so</v>

01:05:08.400 --> 01:05:12.400
<v Speaker 2>unwittingly. They are adversaries because of what they are advocating.</v>

01:05:12.400 --> 01:05:15.440
<v Speaker 2>They are speaking with the voice of Satan, but they are not</v>

01:05:15.440 --> 01:05:19.360
<v Speaker 2>necessarily doing so maliciously or with ill intent.</v>

01:05:19.360 --> 01:05:21.920
<v Speaker 2>They need to be educated and trained.</v>

01:05:21.920 --> 01:05:25.120
<v Speaker 2>They need to be shown what they are doing is wicked, not</v>

01:05:25.280 --> 01:05:28.400
<v Speaker 2>necessarily assumed to be enemies.</v>

01:05:28.880 --> 01:05:30.960
<v Speaker 3>And they need to be brought to repentance.</v>

01:05:30.960 --> 01:05:33.920
<v Speaker 3>Absolutely. Which is a turning away from that, which is evil.</v>

01:05:34.160 --> 01:05:38.960
<v Speaker 3>to reject to reject these things publicly, explicitly, and to say that</v>

01:05:38.960 --> 01:05:41.120
<v Speaker 3>is no longer what I believe.</v>

01:05:41.120 --> 01:05:43.440
<v Speaker 3>And in the case we're going to talk about in just a</v>

01:05:43.440 --> 01:05:47.840
<v Speaker 3>minute, until such time as that occurs, there is no repentance.</v>

01:05:47.840 --> 01:05:51.360
<v Speaker 3>To say, Oh, I'm sorry I got caught, or I'm sorry for</v>

01:05:51.760 --> 01:05:54.720
<v Speaker 3>whatever you think I did, that's not repentance.</v>

01:05:54.720 --> 01:05:57.440
<v Speaker 3>That is not even contrition.</v>

01:05:57.440 --> 01:05:59.840
<v Speaker 3>And it is not salvific.</v>

01:05:59.840 --> 01:06:02.960
<v Speaker 3>Uh you had mentioned uh the two Jews and you I'm not</v>

01:06:02.960 --> 01:06:05.840
<v Speaker 3>sure if you mentioned that Solinsky is also a Jew Since we're</v>

01:06:05.840 --> 01:06:09.600
<v Speaker 3>talking about Satan's playbook, I think it's important to acknowledge that in</v>

01:06:09.600 --> 01:06:12.720
<v Speaker 3>the introduction to rules for radicals, we're going to get into a</v>

01:06:12.720 --> 01:06:17.760
<v Speaker 3>few of the specific details in a minute, Saulinsky writes this lest</v>

01:06:17.760 --> 01:06:22.080
<v Speaker 3>we forget at least an over-the-shoulder acknowledgement to the very first radical,</v>

01:06:22.080 --> 01:06:25.680
<v Speaker 3>from all our legends, mythology, and history, and who is to know</v>

01:06:25.680 --> 01:06:29.200
<v Speaker 3>where mythology leaves off and history begins, or which is which?</v>

01:06:29.200 --> 01:06:33.360
<v Speaker 3>The first radical known to man, who rebelled against the establishment and</v>

01:06:33.360 --> 01:06:36.800
<v Speaker 3>did it so effectively that he at least won his own kingdom,</v>

01:06:36.800 --> 01:06:39.440
<v Speaker 3>his own kingdom, Lucifer.</v>

01:06:39.440 --> 01:06:43.760
<v Speaker 3>So when we say that this is Satan's playbook, now it should</v>

01:06:43.760 --> 01:06:47.760
<v Speaker 3>be obvious to anyone simply by looking at what is being done,</v>

01:06:47.760 --> 01:06:50.400
<v Speaker 3>but these guys aren't even hiding it anymore.</v>

01:06:50.400 --> 01:06:52.000
<v Speaker 3>They make it clear.</v>

01:06:52.000 --> 01:06:56.000
<v Speaker 3>And I actually got that text from Snopes because this came up</v>

01:06:56.000 --> 01:06:58.320
<v Speaker 3>when uh with Hillary and Obama.</v>

01:06:58.320 --> 01:07:00.640
<v Speaker 3>You know, again, we're are we talking about politics here?</v>

01:07:00.640 --> 01:07:02.000
<v Speaker 3>Are we talking about religion?</v>

01:07:02.000 --> 01:07:02.960
<v Speaker 3>Well, I don't know.</v>

01:07:02.960 --> 01:07:06.880
<v Speaker 3>A guy who's claiming to be political is using a satanic strategy</v>

01:07:06.880 --> 01:07:11.120
<v Speaker 3>to satanic ends, and he says in his introdu uh d introduction,</v>

01:07:11.120 --> 01:07:14.800
<v Speaker 3>let's give give credit to Lucifer for at least some of this.</v>

01:07:14.800 --> 01:07:17.440
<v Speaker 3>At some point it is okay to take your enemy at his</v>

01:07:17.440 --> 01:07:20.160
<v Speaker 3>words, because even liars don't lie all the time.</v>

01:07:20.160 --> 01:07:21.520
<v Speaker 3>They also like to brag.</v>

01:07:21.520 --> 01:07:23.120
<v Speaker 3>They'll tell you what they're doing.</v>

01:07:23.280 --> 01:07:26.080
<v Speaker 3>And the fact that more and more of these things go mask</v>

01:07:26.080 --> 01:07:29.440
<v Speaker 3>off is we mentioned, I think, last week that today there are</v>

01:07:30.080 --> 01:07:33.840
<v Speaker 3>satanic unbaptism booths.</v>

01:07:33.840 --> 01:07:35.440
<v Speaker 3>That's out in the open.</v>

01:07:35.440 --> 01:07:37.600
<v Speaker 3>And it's done for political purposes.</v>

01:07:37.600 --> 01:07:40.320
<v Speaker 3>Like they don't think they're being religious when they do that.</v>

01:07:40.320 --> 01:07:43.280
<v Speaker 3>The call that we're giving to every Christian who hears us is</v>

01:07:43.280 --> 01:07:49.600
<v Speaker 3>to understand that fundamentally all of these issues are Christianity versus Christian,</v>

01:07:49.600 --> 01:07:53.920
<v Speaker 3>God versus Satan, and God's people versus Satan's people.</v>

01:07:53.920 --> 01:07:57.520
<v Speaker 3>And so when we see these words and these strategies employed in</v>

01:07:57.520 --> 01:08:00.960
<v Speaker 3>the world, as Corey just said, there are many cases where pastors</v>

01:08:00.960 --> 01:08:02.080
<v Speaker 3>have been misled.</v>

01:08:02.240 --> 01:08:06.400
<v Speaker 3>The fact that they've been misled calls into question our seminary training</v>

01:08:06.560 --> 01:08:08.160
<v Speaker 3>and our seminary selection.</v>

01:08:08.160 --> 01:08:11.680
<v Speaker 3>How is it that we are employing men to be to be</v>

01:08:11.680 --> 01:08:15.200
<v Speaker 3>shepherds who cannot faithfully shepherd?</v>

01:08:15.200 --> 01:08:17.680
<v Speaker 3>Who cannot tell good from evil?</v>

01:08:17.680 --> 01:08:21.200
<v Speaker 3>That's another question to be dealt with at the institutional level.</v>

01:08:21.200 --> 01:08:24.800
<v Speaker 3>You know, it's the reason we brought that up first.</v>

01:08:24.880 --> 01:08:27.200
<v Speaker 3>To round this out, we want to give an example</v>

01:08:28.240 --> 01:08:32.240
<v Speaker 3>from a recent issue in the Missouri Senate that went so widely</v>

01:08:32.240 --> 01:08:34.880
<v Speaker 3>that it uh actually showed up in on revolver news.</v>

01:08:34.880 --> 01:08:38.560
<v Speaker 3>I think it's it's widely known, certainly throughout the Christian community.</v>

01:08:38.560 --> 01:08:41.120
<v Speaker 3>And that's what we referred to at the beginning as the large</v>

01:08:41.120 --> 01:08:44.480
<v Speaker 3>cataclysm. Uh Matt Harrison and Before we get into</v>

01:08:44.480 --> 01:08:47.600
<v Speaker 2>the the large cataclysm, I just want to read that Chrysostom quote</v>

01:08:47.680 --> 01:08:50.080
<v Speaker 2>because I think it actually leads into it well because this is</v>

01:08:50.080 --> 01:08:53.200
<v Speaker 2>an instance where flipping tables is warranted.</v>

01:08:53.920 --> 01:08:59.200
<v Speaker 2>But this is Chrysostom speaking on first Timothy.</v>

01:08:59.200 --> 01:09:03.040
<v Speaker 2>In writing to Timothy, Paul bids him take refuge in the healing</v>

01:09:03.040 --> 01:09:04.560
<v Speaker 2>virtue of wine drinking.</v>

01:09:04.560 --> 01:09:07.760
<v Speaker 2>Not that to drink wine is shameful, God forbid, for such precepts</v>

01:09:08.240 --> 01:09:09.840
<v Speaker 2>belong to heretics.</v>

01:09:09.840 --> 01:09:13.760
<v Speaker 2>But since our discourse has now turned to the subject of blasphemy,</v>

01:09:13.760 --> 01:09:16.880
<v Speaker 2>I desire to ask one favour of you all, in return for</v>

01:09:16.880 --> 01:09:20.800
<v Speaker 2>this my address, and speaking with you, which is, that you will</v>

01:09:20.800 --> 01:09:24.000
<v Speaker 2>correct on my behalf the blasphemers of this city, that is to</v>

01:09:24.000 --> 01:09:26.480
<v Speaker 2>say, those who are saying that wine is evil.</v>

01:09:26.480 --> 01:09:29.440
<v Speaker 2>And should you hear any one in the public thoroughfare, or in</v>

01:09:29.440 --> 01:09:32.320
<v Speaker 2>the midst of the forum, blaspheming God, go up to him and</v>

01:09:32.320 --> 01:09:36.640
<v Speaker 2>rebuke him, and should it be necessary to inflict blows, spare not</v>

01:09:36.640 --> 01:09:40.480
<v Speaker 2>to do so, smite him on the face, strike his mouth, sanctify</v>

01:09:40.480 --> 01:09:43.360
<v Speaker 2>your hands with the blow, and if any should accuse you, and</v>

01:09:43.360 --> 01:09:46.880
<v Speaker 2>drag you to the place of justice, follow them thither, and when</v>

01:09:46.880 --> 01:09:49.920
<v Speaker 2>the judge on the bench calls you to account, say boldly that</v>

01:09:49.920 --> 01:09:53.360
<v Speaker 2>the man blasphemed the king of angels, for if it be necessary</v>

01:09:53.360 --> 01:09:57.280
<v Speaker 2>to punish those who blaspheme an earthly king, much more so those</v>

01:09:57.280 --> 01:09:59.920
<v Speaker 2>who insult God.</v>

01:09:59.920 --> 01:10:00.080
The

01:10:00.080 --> 01:10:07.120
<v Speaker 3>fact that he highlighted wine and drinking and and consuming food is</v>

01:10:07.280 --> 01:10:10.240
<v Speaker 3>goes back to the comment I made at the beginning about teachings</v>

01:10:10.240 --> 01:10:14.560
<v Speaker 3>of demons, which is a quote from First Timothy four.</v>

01:10:14.560 --> 01:10:19.680
<v Speaker 3>That specifically is referring to men forbidding the consuming of certain foods,</v>

01:10:19.680 --> 01:10:22.160
<v Speaker 3>which is again what Chrysosome was referring to.</v>

01:10:22.160 --> 01:10:24.560
<v Speaker 3>And note that he called that blasphemy.</v>

01:10:24.560 --> 01:10:27.040
<v Speaker 3>He didn't call it heterodoxy.</v>

01:10:27.040 --> 01:10:29.360
<v Speaker 3>He didn't call it a misunderstanding.</v>

01:10:29.360 --> 01:10:32.320
<v Speaker 3>He said that it was a direct insult to the throne of</v>

01:10:32.320 --> 01:10:34.560
<v Speaker 3>God to speak in such a manner.</v>

01:10:34.560 --> 01:10:34.880
<v Speaker 3>So</v>

01:10:35.920 --> 01:10:39.360
<v Speaker 3>Cory and I speak clearly, not because we feel we have a</v>

01:10:39.360 --> 01:10:45.600
<v Speaker 3>permission slip from Chrysostom, but because we rightly understand that these matters</v>

01:10:45.600 --> 01:10:48.720
<v Speaker 3>cut to the heart of the Christian faith.</v>

01:10:48.720 --> 01:10:51.840
<v Speaker 3>They cut to the heart of whether the blood shed on the</v>

01:10:51.840 --> 01:10:57.040
<v Speaker 3>cross is going to be faithfully received by those who reject it</v>

01:10:57.040 --> 01:10:58.560
<v Speaker 3>by rejecting God.</v>

01:10:58.560 --> 01:11:03.040
<v Speaker 3>You cannot reject God's word and adopt Satan's word, and expect</v>

01:11:04.080 --> 01:11:07.840
<v Speaker 3>that the blood of Christ will cover your sins on the last</v>

01:11:07.840 --> 01:11:11.040
<v Speaker 3>day. That's not a question of works righteousness.</v>

01:11:11.040 --> 01:11:15.120
<v Speaker 3>It's a question of rejecting God's perfect gift by calling him a</v>

01:11:15.120 --> 01:11:18.720
<v Speaker 3>liar, by saying that God is not God, that he didn't do</v>

01:11:18.720 --> 01:11:19.280
<v Speaker 3>those things.</v>

01:11:19.280 --> 01:11:21.200
<v Speaker 3>He didn't do this, he didn't do that.</v>

01:11:21.200 --> 01:11:22.800
<v Speaker 3>I have a better idea.</v>

01:11:22.800 --> 01:11:26.240
<v Speaker 3>God, you said some things that kind of sound like sin.</v>

01:11:26.240 --> 01:11:27.440
<v Speaker 3>I'm not going to go there.</v>

01:11:27.440 --> 01:11:28.720
<v Speaker 3>I have a better morality than you.</v>

01:11:29.600 --> 01:11:31.840
<v Speaker 3>That's where a lot of the church is today.</v>

01:11:31.840 --> 01:11:35.760
<v Speaker 3>And so when Corey and I bring up matters like polygamy, which</v>

01:11:35.760 --> 01:11:39.760
<v Speaker 3>I'm not remotely interested in, or slavery, which I'm not remotely interested</v>

01:11:39.760 --> 01:11:43.200
<v Speaker 3>in, I've said before in Fra private, I would rather be a</v>

01:11:43.200 --> 01:11:44.800
<v Speaker 3>slave than own slaves.</v>

01:11:44.800 --> 01:11:47.280
<v Speaker 3>I don't think it would be that bad if I had a</v>

01:11:47.280 --> 01:11:48.480
<v Speaker 3>Christian master.</v>

01:11:48.480 --> 01:11:50.640
<v Speaker 3>It would take you had to take a load off.</v>

01:11:50.640 --> 01:11:52.400
<v Speaker 3>You wouldn't have to worry about what you do.</v>

01:11:52.400 --> 01:11:55.520
<v Speaker 3>I think that a slave such as myself would be valued and</v>

01:11:55.520 --> 01:11:58.800
<v Speaker 3>probably be exploited very successfully.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>Whatever. I don't have any intrinsic desire to be a so-called free</v>

01:12:04.480 --> 01:12:08.800
<v Speaker 3>man in this world, because I understand what true Christian freedom is.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>And so when we discuss these matters that cause such frothing hatred</v>

01:12:14.400 --> 01:12:19.280
<v Speaker 3>among men who should be fellow believers and brothers in Christ, they're</v>

01:12:19.280 --> 01:12:22.720
<v Speaker 3>not angry because we're disagreeing with God.</v>

01:12:22.720 --> 01:12:25.840
<v Speaker 3>They're angry because we're disagreeing with their God.</v>

01:12:25.840 --> 01:12:30.000
<v Speaker 3>We're saying things that are contrary to the prince of this world</v>

01:12:30.240 --> 01:12:34.560
<v Speaker 3>who has convinced much of the church that there's a parallel religion</v>

01:12:34.560 --> 01:12:37.760
<v Speaker 3>that has the same name as Christianity and has some of the</v>

01:12:37.760 --> 01:12:40.880
<v Speaker 3>same trappings, but it doesn't have the same doctrine.</v>

01:12:40.880 --> 01:12:44.960
<v Speaker 3>It has some new and improved doctrines that are even more loving</v>

01:12:44.960 --> 01:12:47.760
<v Speaker 3>than what Christianity had before.</v>

01:12:47.760 --> 01:12:50.800
<v Speaker 3>And so the last part of this dust discussion is the large</v>

01:12:50.800 --> 01:12:55.440
<v Speaker 3>cataclysm, where some of those new doctrines were introduced by the Missouri</v>

01:12:55.600 --> 01:12:59.760
<v Speaker 3>Synod into a 500 year old confession of the faith.</v>

01:12:59.760 --> 01:13:02.480
<v Speaker 3>Now, as far as we know, they didn't actually change any of</v>

01:13:02.480 --> 01:13:05.840
<v Speaker 3>the text itself of the large catechism.</v>

01:13:05.840 --> 01:13:12.640
<v Speaker 3>They added dozens of essays with explanatory power to frame these issues</v>

01:13:12.640 --> 01:13:16.640
<v Speaker 3>in the large catechism which involves uh the chief articles.</v>

01:13:16.640 --> 01:13:21.120
<v Speaker 3>It's the the Apostles' Creed, the Lord's Prayer, Ten Commandments, etc., to</v>

01:13:21.120 --> 01:13:25.120
<v Speaker 3>explain to Christians how to really understand those things today.</v>

01:13:25.760 --> 01:13:26.320
<v Speaker 3>And so</v>

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<v Speaker 3>when this blew up online, one of our friends Ryan Turnipseed, and</v>

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<v Speaker 3>that is his real Christian name, the name Ryan Turnipseed was written</v>

01:13:37.520 --> 01:13:41.680
<v Speaker 3>before the beginning of the world in the book of life.</v>

01:13:41.680 --> 01:13:46.160
<v Speaker 3>He wrote a thread on Twitter that highlighted about a dozen of</v>

01:13:46.160 --> 01:13:49.200
<v Speaker 3>the false teachings in the large cataclysm.</v>

01:13:49.200 --> 01:13:54.560
<v Speaker 3>He highlighted specific excerpts that were plainly on their face.</v>

01:13:54.560 --> 01:14:00.000
<v Speaker 3>Marxist. Language that has no business on a Christian's lips, never mind</v>

01:14:00.160 --> 01:14:03.120
<v Speaker 3>in a teaching tool of our own church.</v>

01:14:03.120 --> 01:14:08.160
<v Speaker 3>And what played out next was a perfect microcosm of everything that</v>

01:14:08.160 --> 01:14:10.720
<v Speaker 3>we're trying to get to in this episode.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>The first thing that happened within our own church body was the</v>

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<v Speaker 3>members of the committee on Theology and Church Relations.</v>

01:14:21.040 --> 01:14:27.120
<v Speaker 3>CTCR has 20 members, 15 of whom are active most of the</v>

01:14:27.120 --> 01:14:31.520
<v Speaker 3>time, who basically decide theological questions for the church.</v>

01:14:31.680 --> 01:14:34.480
<v Speaker 3>There are several laymen on there and there's a woman on there,</v>

01:14:34.480 --> 01:14:36.640
<v Speaker 3>which is is new recently.</v>

01:14:36.640 --> 01:14:38.640
<v Speaker 3>Uh absolutely should not exist.</v>

01:14:38.640 --> 01:14:42.160
<v Speaker 3>On its face, the fact that there's a woman present delegitimizes the</v>

01:14:42.160 --> 01:14:46.320
<v Speaker 3>fact that they would rule doctrinally on any matter.</v>

01:14:46.400 --> 01:14:52.400
<v Speaker 3>When I say rule, it's important to distinguish that CTCR can issue</v>

01:14:52.960 --> 01:14:59.920
<v Speaker 3>statements, but unless they are adopted at convention by the synod, they're</v>

01:14:59.920 --> 01:15:02.000
<v Speaker 3>not considered binding.</v>

01:15:02.000 --> 01:15:03.920
<v Speaker 3>Those are all weasel words.</v>

01:15:03.920 --> 01:15:09.920
<v Speaker 3>CTCR is the official body within the LCMS to decide doctrinal matters.</v>

01:15:09.920 --> 01:15:12.240
<v Speaker 3>It's a commission on theology, okay?</v>

01:15:12.240 --> 01:15:14.080
<v Speaker 3>There's no question about that.</v>

01:15:14.080 --> 01:15:17.920
<v Speaker 3>So you don't need convention to ratify whether whether it's true or</v>

01:15:18.240 --> 01:15:19.600
<v Speaker 3>false doctrine.</v>

01:15:19.600 --> 01:15:23.280
<v Speaker 3>It should be implicit that anything that these men and now women</v>

01:15:24.080 --> 01:15:26.000
<v Speaker 3>generate will be true doctrine.</v>

01:15:26.000 --> 01:15:30.080
<v Speaker 3>And they're speaking on behalf of the entire Missouri Synod Lutheran Church.</v>

01:15:30.080 --> 01:15:32.320
<v Speaker 3>They're speaking on behalf of Corey and I.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>When they say these things, they're saying that this is what God</v>

01:15:35.600 --> 01:15:38.800
<v Speaker 3>says, this is what Luther says, this is what the LCMS says,</v>

01:15:38.800 --> 01:15:40.480
<v Speaker 3>and this is what you should believe.</v>

01:15:40.480 --> 01:15:43.280
<v Speaker 3>We bind your conscience with these words.</v>

01:15:43.280 --> 01:15:44.560
<v Speaker 3>Here's some of the words in there.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>We're not going to cover all of them.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>We will link in the show notes.</v>

01:15:47.280 --> 01:15:52.640
<v Speaker 3>A video stream that Ryan, Corey, Ryan, and another man did on</v>

01:15:53.600 --> 01:15:54.480
<v Speaker 3>this subject.</v>

01:15:54.480 --> 01:15:56.880
<v Speaker 3>We went into each of them in in some detail.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>I just want to highlight a couple of the egregious examples.</v>

01:15:59.280 --> 01:16:01.440
<v Speaker 3>So if you're not familiar, you can have a sense of what's</v>

01:16:01.840 --> 01:16:04.880
<v Speaker 3>actually going on so that when we tell you what happened next,</v>

01:16:04.880 --> 01:16:09.920
<v Speaker 3>you'll have an understanding of why we're doing this episode.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>There's a quote from one of the current professors at Concordia St.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>Louis. It's one of our seminaries, named Dr.</v>

01:16:17.120 --> 01:16:18.560
<v Speaker 3>Joel Beerman.</v>

01:16:18.560 --> 01:16:22.160
<v Speaker 3>I'm going to allied to the stub this the his quote for</v>

01:16:22.160 --> 01:16:23.440
<v Speaker 3>the sake of brevity.</v>

01:16:23.440 --> 01:16:27.040
<v Speaker 3>All I'm doing is omitting specific words that do not in any</v>

01:16:27.040 --> 01:16:30.480
<v Speaker 3>way alter the content of this, because it's it's a little bit</v>

01:16:30.480 --> 01:16:33.680
<v Speaker 3>rambling. I want to hone in on the specific issue.</v>

01:16:33.680 --> 01:16:36.480
<v Speaker 3>You can see the screenshot for yourself and see that I'm not</v>

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<v Speaker 3>altering the meaning in the slightest.</v>

01:16:40.240 --> 01:16:45.760
<v Speaker 3>Lethal force is never exercised for the sake of self.</v>

01:16:48.320 --> 01:16:53.360
<v Speaker 3>Lethal force is never exercised for the sake of self.</v>

01:16:54.480 --> 01:16:57.120
<v Speaker 3>This is a man who is an ordained pastor in the Missouri</v>

01:16:57.120 --> 01:17:03.200
<v Speaker 3>Synod who is explicitly, empirically, and for all time forbidding self-defense.</v>

01:17:03.200 --> 01:17:06.080
<v Speaker 3>He is saying, you may not defend yourself.</v>

01:17:06.080 --> 01:17:11.200
<v Speaker 3>Now, his argument in the broader context of the discussion in the</v>

01:17:11.360 --> 01:17:13.200
<v Speaker 3>his essay is that</v>

01:17:14.160 --> 01:17:19.360
<v Speaker 3>applying the Lutheran doctrine of vocation to the question.</v>

01:17:19.360 --> 01:17:23.680
<v Speaker 3>In other words, a man has a vocation as a husband, as</v>

01:17:23.680 --> 01:17:27.360
<v Speaker 3>a father, as a neighbor, to those under his care.</v>

01:17:27.360 --> 01:17:33.200
<v Speaker 3>And that if he's ever allowed to kill someone, he's only allowed</v>

01:17:33.200 --> 01:17:35.280
<v Speaker 3>to do it in defense of another.</v>

01:17:35.280 --> 01:17:39.200
<v Speaker 3>He's never allowed to do it solely for his own sake.</v>

01:17:40.160 --> 01:17:43.280
<v Speaker 3>This is shocking for so many reasons that I we could do</v>

01:17:43.280 --> 01:17:45.680
<v Speaker 3>We could do an episode just on how bad that one take</v>

01:17:45.680 --> 01:17:48.480
<v Speaker 3>is. But I just want to highlight who it excludes.</v>

01:17:48.480 --> 01:17:51.760
<v Speaker 3>If you're an unmarried man, maybe all of your relatives are dead,</v>

01:17:51.760 --> 01:17:54.400
<v Speaker 3>maybe you live out in the country, you don't have any immediate</v>

01:17:54.400 --> 01:17:59.520
<v Speaker 3>neighbors. What this man is saying is that if home invaders t</v>

01:17:59.680 --> 01:18:03.200
<v Speaker 3>come to your home trying to kill you, you must let it</v>

01:18:03.200 --> 01:18:06.800
<v Speaker 3>happen. You cannot resist or you sin against God.</v>

01:18:06.800 --> 01:18:10.000
<v Speaker 3>And then your last act in your life of trying to kill</v>

01:18:10.000 --> 01:18:14.480
<v Speaker 3>them before they kill you will have been sin against God.</v>

01:18:14.480 --> 01:18:18.400
<v Speaker 3>That is so profoundly evil that there's there are no words for</v>

01:18:18.400 --> 01:18:22.240
<v Speaker 3>it. Creation itself testifies to how false this is.</v>

01:18:22.240 --> 01:18:26.400
<v Speaker 3>Any animal will struggle for its life if it's endangered.</v>

01:18:26.400 --> 01:18:32.400
<v Speaker 3>And the universal law of war recognizes that the reason that a</v>

01:18:32.400 --> 01:18:36.480
<v Speaker 3>man is permitted to use lethal force on the battlefield is not</v>

01:18:36.480 --> 01:18:40.320
<v Speaker 3>for the sake of well, he's there bearing arms and in defense</v>

01:18:40.320 --> 01:18:41.200
<v Speaker 3>of the state.</v>

01:18:41.200 --> 01:18:44.560
<v Speaker 3>It's that a man has an inherent right to defend his own</v>

01:18:44.560 --> 01:18:49.120
<v Speaker 3>body. And on the battlefield, if another legal combatant is trying to</v>

01:18:49.120 --> 01:18:52.400
<v Speaker 3>kill him, he has the right to cry to try to kill</v>

01:18:52.400 --> 01:18:55.440
<v Speaker 3>him back, setting everything else aside.</v>

01:18:55.440 --> 01:19:01.200
<v Speaker 3>Now that's a secular argument, but it's also consistent with Christian doctrine.</v>

01:19:01.200 --> 01:19:04.960
<v Speaker 3>You You have an inherent right because God made you and gave</v>

01:19:04.960 --> 01:19:07.680
<v Speaker 3>you your life to defend your life.</v>

01:19:07.680 --> 01:19:10.560
<v Speaker 3>And so right out of the gate in this book, in the</v>

01:19:10.720 --> 01:19:16.320
<v Speaker 3>in the discussion of the fifth commandment, Beerman destroys Christian doctrine.</v>

01:19:16.320 --> 01:19:17.360
<v Speaker 3>Not even Christian.</v>

01:19:17.360 --> 01:19:19.280
<v Speaker 3>I mean, Christianity began in the garden.</v>

01:19:19.280 --> 01:19:20.880
<v Speaker 3>It's a point we made before.</v>

01:19:20.880 --> 01:19:25.520
<v Speaker 3>He destroys 6,000 years of what believers have always believed.</v>

01:19:25.520 --> 01:19:29.920
<v Speaker 3>That your ability to defend yourself is not a function of whether</v>

01:19:29.920 --> 01:19:31.920
<v Speaker 3>you're doing it for somebody else.</v>

01:19:31.920 --> 01:19:34.880
<v Speaker 3>It's whether you're doing it because God has given you your life</v>

01:19:35.040 --> 01:19:38.240
<v Speaker 3>and he determines when you die, not the man who broke into</v>

01:19:38.240 --> 01:19:40.720
<v Speaker 3>your home trying to hurt or kill you.</v>

01:19:40.960 --> 01:19:41.280
<v Speaker 3>So</v>

01:19:42.240 --> 01:19:44.960
<v Speaker 3>we're gonna give a couple of other examples, but I just want</v>

01:19:44.960 --> 01:19:49.680
<v Speaker 3>to highlight how profoundly evil that is and what the response was</v>

01:19:49.680 --> 01:19:50.960
<v Speaker 3>when we called this out of the way.</v>

01:19:51.120 --> 01:19:51.680
<v Speaker 3>Even if</v>

01:19:51.680 --> 01:19:56.880
<v Speaker 2>we were to take his His argument at face value It's still</v>

01:19:56.880 --> 01:20:03.120
<v Speaker 2>incoherent nonsense because you always have the moral duty to defend yourself</v>

01:20:03.440 --> 01:20:07.600
<v Speaker 2>because you are God's property, and you have a duty to defend</v>

01:20:07.600 --> 01:20:10.960
<v Speaker 2>the property of your rightful sovereign.</v>

01:20:10.960 --> 01:20:15.520
<v Speaker 2>So, in addition to being wrong scripturally, he is</v>

01:20:17.040 --> 01:20:19.520
<v Speaker 2>utterly insane philosophically.</v>

01:20:19.520 --> 01:20:24.080
<v Speaker 2>He has he is utterly unfit to write ever again for the</v>

01:20:24.080 --> 01:20:27.360
<v Speaker 2>church. And this should just be burned.</v>

01:20:27.360 --> 01:20:29.840
<v Speaker 2>That's only one of the arguments that I would run through that</v>

01:20:29.840 --> 01:20:34.720
<v Speaker 2>just makes it incredibly obvious how wrong an argument against self-defense is.</v>

01:20:34.720 --> 01:20:37.840
<v Speaker 2>Because of course he tries to couch it in saying that, well,</v>

01:20:37.840 --> 01:20:41.600
<v Speaker 2>you you have a duty to defend others, but not yourself.</v>

01:20:41.600 --> 01:20:44.160
<v Speaker 2>How are you going to defend others if you're dead?</v>

01:20:45.520 --> 01:20:51.600
<v Speaker 2>But it's it's just such a heinous, immoral, irrational argument.</v>

01:20:51.600 --> 01:20:55.440
<v Speaker 2>That it's just the fact that this made it into the large</v>

01:20:55.440 --> 01:21:00.640
<v Speaker 2>c cataclysm proves that the systems in place to vet this stuff</v>

01:21:00.640 --> 01:21:03.840
<v Speaker 2>are not simply insufficient but corrupted.</v>

01:21:04.000 --> 01:21:06.880
<v Speaker 3>I'll give two more brief examples and then we'll fill you in</v>

01:21:06.880 --> 01:21:10.080
<v Speaker 3>on what happened when we brought these things to light.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>A second example is uh from one regarding sexuality.</v>

01:21:15.120 --> 01:21:16.880
<v Speaker 3>This is an essay, I believe, by a woman.</v>

01:21:16.880 --> 01:21:20.000
<v Speaker 3>There were there were a number of female authors who wrote doctrinal</v>

01:21:20.160 --> 01:21:24.320
<v Speaker 3>doctrinal treatises on behalf of the church for the church.</v>

01:21:24.320 --> 01:21:30.560
<v Speaker 3>She writes, however, some of us are burdened with homosexual lust, pornographic</v>

01:21:30.560 --> 01:21:35.200
<v Speaker 3>addiction, transgenderism, pedophilia, and polyamory.</v>

01:21:35.200 --> 01:21:38.240
<v Speaker 3>More often they are the speck in our neighbor's eye rather than</v>

01:21:38.240 --> 01:21:41.920
<v Speaker 3>the log of in our own.</v>

01:21:41.920 --> 01:21:42.560
<v Speaker 3>Now</v>

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<v Speaker 3>I want you to look at the screenshots so you can read</v>

01:21:47.360 --> 01:21:48.960
<v Speaker 3>that for yourself.</v>

01:21:48.960 --> 01:21:54.640
<v Speaker 3>This person says on behalf of our church, some people are burdened</v>

01:21:54.640 --> 01:21:59.840
<v Speaker 3>with pedophilia in a list of other sexualities.</v>

01:21:59.840 --> 01:22:04.240
<v Speaker 3>Now, this is the LGBTQIA plus plus thing.</v>

01:22:04.240 --> 01:22:07.440
<v Speaker 3>If you keep going with I acronym, P is added.</v>

01:22:07.440 --> 01:22:12.080
<v Speaker 3>That publicly, P for pedophile is added to the list of sexualities.</v>

01:22:12.080 --> 01:22:14.640
<v Speaker 3>So when I said that the LCMS is on the cutting edge</v>

01:22:14.640 --> 01:22:16.800
<v Speaker 3>here, this is what I was referring to.</v>

01:22:16.800 --> 01:22:20.880
<v Speaker 3>The idea that pedophilia is a sexuality, and sure, it's a bad</v>

01:22:20.880 --> 01:22:24.000
<v Speaker 3>sexuality, but it's a sexuality nevertheless.</v>

01:22:24.000 --> 01:22:28.000
<v Speaker 3>The fact that the church would have published this to acknowledge the</v>

01:22:28.160 --> 01:22:32.960
<v Speaker 3>2023 framing that only in the very most last couple years has</v>

01:22:32.960 --> 01:22:36.720
<v Speaker 3>even the most radical left been willing to say publicly the fact</v>

01:22:36.720 --> 01:22:39.200
<v Speaker 3>that our church would join in that chorus</v>

01:22:40.320 --> 01:22:44.000
<v Speaker 3>I I I'm generally pretty good with superlatives, but I have none.</v>

01:22:44.000 --> 01:22:47.200
<v Speaker 3>I there's there's no way to characterize this.</v>

01:22:47.200 --> 01:22:53.040
<v Speaker 3>And she goes on to say that your neighbor's pedophilia is really</v>

01:22:53.040 --> 01:22:54.240
<v Speaker 3>a speck in their eye.</v>

01:22:54.560 --> 01:22:57.200
<v Speaker 3>You need to deal with your own sins first.</v>

01:22:57.200 --> 01:23:01.920
<v Speaker 3>Implying that if a man likes how girls how women look and</v>

01:23:01.920 --> 01:23:06.160
<v Speaker 3>he looks at a woman who's not his wife with sexual desire,</v>

01:23:06.160 --> 01:23:10.400
<v Speaker 3>that that is a log and he has no business being worried</v>

01:23:10.400 --> 01:23:14.080
<v Speaker 3>about the pedophile next door until he deals with that.</v>

01:23:14.080 --> 01:23:16.240
<v Speaker 3>Is that the voice of God or is that the voice of</v>

01:23:16.240 --> 01:23:19.200
<v Speaker 3>Satan? I hope that anyone listening to us doesn't need to l</v>

01:23:19.280 --> 01:23:20.400
<v Speaker 3>think about that very long.</v>

01:23:20.400 --> 01:23:22.480
<v Speaker 3>That is utterly satanic.</v>

01:23:22.480 --> 01:23:23.520
<v Speaker 3>Just as the first thing.</v>

01:23:23.520 --> 01:23:28.400
<v Speaker 3>What Beerman said is utterly satanic because in the broader context of</v>

01:23:28.400 --> 01:23:32.080
<v Speaker 3>all these comments, what are these do these men and now women</v>

01:23:32.080 --> 01:23:34.240
<v Speaker 3>doing in our church?</v>

01:23:34.240 --> 01:23:39.040
<v Speaker 3>They are supporting what Satan is doing in the world.</v>

01:23:39.040 --> 01:23:43.280
<v Speaker 3>Throughout this episode, we've used lots of terms that have political connotations.</v>

01:23:43.280 --> 01:23:45.600
<v Speaker 3>When we use them, it's not political.</v>

01:23:45.600 --> 01:23:47.360
<v Speaker 3>There's no such thing anymore.</v>

01:23:47.360 --> 01:23:49.360
<v Speaker 3>There is God versus Satan.</v>

01:23:49.360 --> 01:23:52.400
<v Speaker 3>And there's God's children versus Satan's children.</v>

01:23:52.400 --> 01:23:55.680
<v Speaker 3>These voices are the voices of demons that were published by the</v>

01:23:55.680 --> 01:23:59.920
<v Speaker 3>Missouri Synod's own publishing arm to say you can't defend yourself in</v>

01:23:59.920 --> 01:24:04.640
<v Speaker 3>the same tome that attacks on the basis of race the ownership</v>

01:24:04.640 --> 01:24:08.560
<v Speaker 3>of private property by those who have been privileged.</v>

01:24:08.560 --> 01:24:11.360
<v Speaker 3>If you know anything about what's going on in the world, you</v>

01:24:11.360 --> 01:24:13.600
<v Speaker 3>know that those are part and parcel.</v>

01:24:13.600 --> 01:24:15.760
<v Speaker 3>It doesn't matter if they're in two separate essays.</v>

01:24:15.760 --> 01:24:19.280
<v Speaker 3>They're the same fabric and they have the same author, and he</v>

01:24:19.280 --> 01:24:21.600
<v Speaker 3>lives in hell.</v>

01:24:21.920 --> 01:24:24.960
<v Speaker 3>The last brief example I want to give before we talk about</v>

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<v Speaker 3>the reaction also has to do with sexuality.</v>

01:24:28.880 --> 01:24:33.760
<v Speaker 3>Some Christians sense themselves as the gender or sex opposite to their</v>

01:24:33.760 --> 01:24:34.960
<v Speaker 3>physical sex.</v>

01:24:34.960 --> 01:24:39.520
<v Speaker 3>Other Christians are sexually attracted to individuals of the same sex.</v>

01:24:39.520 --> 01:24:44.000
<v Speaker 3>Now this isn't the most egregious example in terms of subversion, but</v>

01:24:44.000 --> 01:24:47.760
<v Speaker 3>just listen to the fact that a church is unit using terminology</v>

01:24:48.160 --> 01:24:51.680
<v Speaker 3>that even twenty years ago, our own church would have imploded if</v>

01:24:51.680 --> 01:24:52.880
<v Speaker 3>we had talked this way.</v>

01:24:52.880 --> 01:24:54.960
<v Speaker 3>No Christian was talking this way.</v>

01:24:54.960 --> 01:24:58.480
<v Speaker 3>No normal human being five years ago was talking this way.</v>

01:24:58.480 --> 01:25:02.800
<v Speaker 3>And yet in 2023, Matt Harrison oversaw publishing this.</v>

01:25:02.800 --> 01:25:06.720
<v Speaker 3>The CTCR blessed it, they wrote much of it, they approved all</v>

01:25:06.720 --> 01:25:10.160
<v Speaker 3>of it, and they said this is church teaching, this is for</v>

01:25:10.160 --> 01:25:12.400
<v Speaker 3>the benefit of all future generations.</v>

01:25:12.400 --> 01:25:18.400
<v Speaker 3>Go forth and study this and enjoy the blessings of God's word.</v>

01:25:18.400 --> 01:25:23.120
<v Speaker 3>The reason we ban with co-opting institutions is that's precisely what we're</v>

01:25:23.120 --> 01:25:24.560
<v Speaker 3>dealing with here.</v>

01:25:24.560 --> 01:25:26.800
<v Speaker 3>CTCR has been co-opted.</v>

01:25:26.800 --> 01:25:29.200
<v Speaker 3>The Missouri Synod has been co-opted.</v>

01:25:29.200 --> 01:25:34.320
<v Speaker 3>There's no possible way that this evil book could have been produced</v>

01:25:34.320 --> 01:25:35.840
<v Speaker 3>by a Christian body.</v>

01:25:35.840 --> 01:25:39.360
<v Speaker 3>This was produced by a body that has demonic voices in its</v>

01:25:39.360 --> 01:25:43.280
<v Speaker 3>myths. And as Corey said, that doesn't mean that the individuals involved</v>

01:25:43.280 --> 01:25:44.720
<v Speaker 3>are demon-possessed.</v>

01:25:44.720 --> 01:25:47.760
<v Speaker 3>It goes to the again to the first Timothy quote.</v>

01:25:47.760 --> 01:25:49.520
<v Speaker 3>Teachings of demons.</v>

01:25:49.520 --> 01:25:52.560
<v Speaker 3>Are these teachings of God or are these teachings of demons?</v>

01:25:52.560 --> 01:25:55.760
<v Speaker 3>There can be no question that there is a single answer to</v>

01:25:55.760 --> 01:25:56.080
<v Speaker 3>that.</v>

01:25:57.440 --> 01:26:01.600
<v Speaker 3>So when this shipped and when Ryan published his thread, which we'll</v>

01:26:01.600 --> 01:26:04.720
<v Speaker 3>link, three things happened.</v>

01:26:04.720 --> 01:26:10.320
<v Speaker 3>First, the sonatocrats circled the wagons, and those who were uh huge</v>

01:26:10.320 --> 01:26:13.840
<v Speaker 3>fans of institutional love.</v>

01:26:13.840 --> 01:26:17.600
<v Speaker 3>They said, How dare you question the institution?</v>

01:26:17.600 --> 01:26:19.520
<v Speaker 3>This went through doctrinal review.</v>

01:26:19.520 --> 01:26:21.760
<v Speaker 3>That means it must be trustworthy.</v>

01:26:21.760 --> 01:26:27.840
<v Speaker 3>So the implicit assumption was the reason we brought up co-opting institutions.</v>

01:26:27.840 --> 01:26:32.160
<v Speaker 3>They say, well, there's no possibility that a institution could be co-opted</v>

01:26:32.240 --> 01:26:34.080
<v Speaker 3>or even that it can make a mistake.</v>

01:26:34.080 --> 01:26:37.600
<v Speaker 3>The only possibility is that you're wrong.</v>

01:26:37.600 --> 01:26:41.600
<v Speaker 3>And And the fact that there're some people who could see through</v>

01:26:41.600 --> 01:26:44.560
<v Speaker 3>that, but not nearly as many as I had hoped, and far</v>

01:26:44.560 --> 01:26:48.080
<v Speaker 3>more people than I had hoped bought a hookline and sinker.</v>

01:26:48.080 --> 01:26:52.880
<v Speaker 3>They think the idea the layman could comment on theology as a</v>

01:26:52.880 --> 01:26:56.880
<v Speaker 3>as a shocking affront to the state of our church and for</v>

01:26:56.880 --> 01:26:59.760
<v Speaker 3>us individually, so this to the state of our souls, that we</v>

01:26:59.760 --> 01:27:05.040
<v Speaker 3>must be deeply pr troubled men who are obviously very unreasonable.</v>

01:27:05.040 --> 01:27:07.360
<v Speaker 3>And so what's step three?</v>

01:27:07.360 --> 01:27:13.040
<v Speaker 3>It's Alinsky's rules for radicals, which immediately went into effect, beginning before</v>

01:27:13.040 --> 01:27:15.920
<v Speaker 3>we even had the live stream where we discussed it.</v>

01:27:15.920 --> 01:27:20.640
<v Speaker 3>But in the days in the immediate aftermath of us bringing to</v>

01:27:20.640 --> 01:27:26.000
<v Speaker 3>light this profound evil in our church, there were attempts to dox</v>

01:27:26.000 --> 01:27:27.600
<v Speaker 3>us, which are ongoing.</v>

01:27:27.600 --> 01:27:32.080
<v Speaker 3>Uh, there are attempts to see us punished and excommunicated from our</v>

01:27:32.080 --> 01:27:35.440
<v Speaker 3>churches for speaking about this theological matter.</v>

01:27:35.440 --> 01:27:39.600
<v Speaker 3>And that's interesting because the response that Matt Harrison had when he</v>

01:27:39.600 --> 01:27:43.200
<v Speaker 3>got a black eye for this disaster, which is hung around his</v>

01:27:43.200 --> 01:27:47.040
<v Speaker 3>neck, he said we're withdrawing it so that it can go under</v>

01:27:47.040 --> 01:27:48.880
<v Speaker 3>review for these concerns.</v>

01:27:48.880 --> 01:27:49.520
<v Speaker 3>Now</v>

01:27:50.720 --> 01:27:53.280
<v Speaker 3>I hope that there will be a good outcome from that.</v>

01:27:53.280 --> 01:27:54.080
<v Speaker 3>We'll see.</v>

01:27:54.080 --> 01:27:57.520
<v Speaker 3>But I bring that up to characterize the response of those who</v>

01:27:57.520 --> 01:28:01.840
<v Speaker 3>seek the destruction of the layman who spoke against it.</v>

01:28:01.840 --> 01:28:05.200
<v Speaker 3>If we spoke against something on this on the basis that it</v>

01:28:05.200 --> 01:28:07.280
<v Speaker 3>was not sound doctrine.</v>

01:28:07.280 --> 01:28:10.320
<v Speaker 3>And the president of the synod says, I need to look at</v>

01:28:10.320 --> 01:28:11.600
<v Speaker 3>these concerns.</v>

01:28:11.600 --> 01:28:15.280
<v Speaker 3>How is it not acting as judge, jury, and executioner for every</v>

01:28:15.280 --> 01:28:19.200
<v Speaker 3>pastor and layman who seeks to destroy the men involved in bringing</v>

01:28:19.200 --> 01:28:23.120
<v Speaker 3>this to light for saying that we are implicitly wrong because we're</v>

01:28:23.120 --> 01:28:25.520
<v Speaker 3>opposing an institution.</v>

01:28:25.520 --> 01:28:28.960
<v Speaker 3>I'm not whining about hypocrisy, I'm pointing out that these men are</v>

01:28:28.960 --> 01:28:32.160
<v Speaker 3>liars and they are damned by their own actions.</v>

01:28:32.160 --> 01:28:36.400
<v Speaker 3>If the synod is defensible because it published it, then you must</v>

01:28:36.400 --> 01:28:39.760
<v Speaker 3>necessarily defend their decision to withdraw it.</v>

01:28:39.760 --> 01:28:45.360
<v Speaker 3>And instead they have characterized us as a mob as angry anons,</v>

01:28:45.360 --> 01:28:48.640
<v Speaker 3>as every all the all the slander that we've talked about in</v>

01:28:48.640 --> 01:28:52.240
<v Speaker 3>previous episodes, particularly the one a man has who has no name,</v>

01:28:52.240 --> 01:28:55.520
<v Speaker 3>a man a man whose name no man knows.</v>

01:28:55.520 --> 01:29:02.000
<v Speaker 3>These slanders are employed consistently with Alinsky's rules for radicals.</v>

01:29:02.960 --> 01:29:08.160
<v Speaker 3>So before I read Olinsky's rules, there's one really interesting quote that</v>

01:29:08.160 --> 01:29:11.920
<v Speaker 3>we used in the episode on the On the suitability of scripture</v>

01:29:11.920 --> 01:29:15.520
<v Speaker 3>for determining such disputes.</v>

01:29:15.520 --> 01:29:20.000
<v Speaker 3>John Wycliffe's opponents stated the jewel of the clergy has become the</v>

01:29:20.000 --> 01:29:21.440
<v Speaker 3>toy of the laity.</v>

01:29:21.440 --> 01:29:24.240
<v Speaker 3>Now just a few weeks weeks ago when I wrote that we</v>

01:29:24.240 --> 01:29:28.800
<v Speaker 3>were laughing at the Romanists for having done that, that the Pope</v>

01:29:28.800 --> 01:29:33.200
<v Speaker 3>would have people murdered for trying to read the Bible themselves, and</v>

01:29:33.200 --> 01:29:35.600
<v Speaker 3>the idea that the toy of the laity was a threat to</v>

01:29:35.600 --> 01:29:37.680
<v Speaker 3>the jewel of the clergy.</v>

01:29:37.680 --> 01:29:41.120
<v Speaker 3>What we saw two weeks ago when this blew up was that</v>

01:29:41.120 --> 01:29:44.800
<v Speaker 3>that very same spirit lives within our own churches today.</v>

01:29:44.800 --> 01:29:47.360
<v Speaker 3>And I think that everyone needs to think long and hard about</v>

01:29:47.360 --> 01:29:49.840
<v Speaker 3>that, what that implies about us.</v>

01:29:52.560 --> 01:29:56.480
<v Speaker 3>So Saul Linsky wrote Rules for Radicals and he distilled it down</v>

01:29:56.480 --> 01:29:58.640
<v Speaker 3>to thirteen bullet points.</v>

01:29:58.640 --> 01:30:03.120
<v Speaker 3>These bullet points are predominantly focused around the personal destruction of the</v>

01:30:03.120 --> 01:30:04.960
<v Speaker 3>enemies of the institutions.</v>

01:30:04.960 --> 01:30:08.960
<v Speaker 3>Now, if you know about the world in which that's being applied,</v>

01:30:08.960 --> 01:30:10.800
<v Speaker 3>that sounds a bit ironic.</v>

01:30:10.800 --> 01:30:14.640
<v Speaker 3>And maybe fifty, seventy-five years ago that was not true.</v>

01:30:14.640 --> 01:30:17.280
<v Speaker 3>But today in a world where all of the institutions have been</v>

01:30:17.280 --> 01:30:22.480
<v Speaker 3>co-opted, it's absolutely true that these rules work equally well, not for</v>

01:30:22.480 --> 01:30:28.000
<v Speaker 3>the radicals against the institutions, but for the radicals who employ and</v>

01:30:28.000 --> 01:30:31.680
<v Speaker 3>weaponize the institutions against their opponents.</v>

01:30:34.960 --> 01:30:38.640
<v Speaker 3>So I'm gonna read the nine that were used in this very</v>

01:30:38.640 --> 01:30:42.560
<v Speaker 3>scenario against Ryan Turnipseed and against myself and Corey and others</v>

01:30:43.440 --> 01:30:47.760
<v Speaker 3>Number one, power is not only what you have, but what the</v>

01:30:47.760 --> 01:30:49.280
<v Speaker 3>enemy thinks you have.</v>

01:30:49.280 --> 01:30:50.720
<v Speaker 3>So how does that apply here?</v>

01:30:50.720 --> 01:30:55.920
<v Speaker 3>Well, they're pastors who are trying to get us excommunicated for speaking</v>

01:30:55.920 --> 01:30:57.120
<v Speaker 3>in defense of Scripture.</v>

01:30:57.600 --> 01:31:01.280
<v Speaker 3>Now, even in the case where we were wrong, the fact that</v>

01:31:01.280 --> 01:31:06.560
<v Speaker 3>they would presume to call us to repentance again before synod has</v>

01:31:06.560 --> 01:31:09.280
<v Speaker 3>ruled on whether or not this is in fact false doctrine, I</v>

01:31:09.280 --> 01:31:11.600
<v Speaker 3>think that they're probably going to capitulate on a number of the</v>

01:31:11.600 --> 01:31:12.560
<v Speaker 3>points that we raised.</v>

01:31:12.560 --> 01:31:14.240
<v Speaker 3>Frankly, we didn't raise all the points.</v>

01:31:14.240 --> 01:31:17.440
<v Speaker 3>There's a lot more trash in there that we didn't raise because</v>

01:31:17.760 --> 01:31:20.880
<v Speaker 3>the point was that the book itself was corrupt.</v>

01:31:20.880 --> 01:31:22.080
<v Speaker 3>We were we're not editors.</v>

01:31:22.080 --> 01:31:23.600
<v Speaker 3>We weren't trying to find every error.</v>

01:31:23.840 --> 01:31:27.200
<v Speaker 3>The point was to demonstrate that on its face the existence of</v>

01:31:27.200 --> 01:31:29.440
<v Speaker 3>the book is an affront to God.</v>

01:31:29.440 --> 01:31:34.480
<v Speaker 3>So the use of institutional power to threaten laymen who would speak</v>

01:31:34.480 --> 01:31:41.760
<v Speaker 3>up against it is is absolutely deploying church discipline as a weapon</v>

01:31:41.760 --> 01:31:46.080
<v Speaker 3>to silence laymen who are like we're not trying to burn down</v>

01:31:46.080 --> 01:31:47.440
<v Speaker 3>the Missouri Synod.</v>

01:31:47.440 --> 01:31:50.320
<v Speaker 3>We're not trying to destroy CPH.</v>

01:31:50.320 --> 01:31:52.400
<v Speaker 3>I think that both have serious problems.</v>

01:31:52.400 --> 01:31:54.240
<v Speaker 3>I'm very open about that.</v>

01:31:54.240 --> 01:31:58.800
<v Speaker 3>We're seeking the immediate redress of this specific problem, and then we'll</v>

01:31:58.800 --> 01:32:02.160
<v Speaker 3>go upstream from there to figure out how did these problems occur.</v>

01:32:02.160 --> 01:32:05.360
<v Speaker 3>We have our own theories and our own understanding, but the point</v>

01:32:05.360 --> 01:32:09.200
<v Speaker 3>of bringing the large cataclysm to the to the view of the</v>

01:32:09.200 --> 01:32:13.360
<v Speaker 3>world was not to pick a fight with the institution, it was</v>

01:32:13.360 --> 01:32:14.640
<v Speaker 3>to end the book.</v>

01:32:14.640 --> 01:32:17.360
<v Speaker 3>Because if this book had shipped to all the people who wanted</v>

01:32:17.360 --> 01:32:21.360
<v Speaker 3>it and was normalized as a part of church teaching, that's the</v>

01:32:21.360 --> 01:32:26.400
<v Speaker 3>ratchet. That's the the reasonable wording being made reasonable and moving one</v>

01:32:26.400 --> 01:32:27.520
<v Speaker 3>step further down.</v>

01:32:27.520 --> 01:32:30.640
<v Speaker 3>And so a year from now, all the men who were advancing</v>

01:32:30.640 --> 01:32:34.160
<v Speaker 3>Marxism in the church would be quoting this against us and saying,</v>

01:32:34.160 --> 01:32:36.160
<v Speaker 3>this is established church teaching.</v>

01:32:36.160 --> 01:32:40.400
<v Speaker 3>We had one tiny tiny window of opportunity to prevent that from</v>

01:32:40.400 --> 01:32:43.440
<v Speaker 3>happening. And what we did, we threw a monkey wrench in the</v>

01:32:43.440 --> 01:32:44.720
<v Speaker 3>gears of that ratchet.</v>

01:32:44.720 --> 01:32:46.320
<v Speaker 3>We kept from moving forward.</v>

01:32:46.320 --> 01:32:49.360
<v Speaker 3>For the first time in a long time, it didn't move to</v>

01:32:49.360 --> 01:32:50.880
<v Speaker 3>the left like it has been.</v>

01:32:50.880 --> 01:32:53.120
<v Speaker 3>And so they're trying to threaten us.</v>

01:32:53.120 --> 01:32:55.760
<v Speaker 3>Fine. Good luck with that.</v>

01:32:56.160 --> 01:32:59.760
<v Speaker 3>Second rule is never go outside the expertise of your people.</v>

01:32:59.760 --> 01:33:03.520
<v Speaker 3>Well, that's clearly in play here because those who are most practice</v>

01:33:03.520 --> 01:33:08.400
<v Speaker 3>in slander and the destruction of reputations, have done it quite effectively.</v>

01:33:08.400 --> 01:33:11.040
<v Speaker 3>It's uh it's been an ongoing thing we've seen ever since the</v>

01:33:11.040 --> 01:33:14.640
<v Speaker 3>beginning, and the the expertise that they have is demonstrated by the</v>

01:33:14.640 --> 01:33:17.440
<v Speaker 3>alacrity with which they've employed those tools.</v>

01:33:17.680 --> 01:33:17.920
Which

01:33:18.000 --> 01:33:20.800
<v Speaker 2>of course ties right into rule thirteen, but we'll get to</v>

01:33:20.800 --> 01:33:21.360
that.

01:33:21.360 --> 01:33:24.880
<v Speaker 3>Yep. The third one is particularly relevant.</v>

01:33:24.880 --> 01:33:28.000
<v Speaker 3>Ridicule is man's most powerful weapon.</v>

01:33:28.000 --> 01:33:29.120
<v Speaker 3>And that's what they went to.</v>

01:33:29.120 --> 01:33:32.640
<v Speaker 3>Isn't it interesting that when a a number of laymen raised a</v>

01:33:32.640 --> 01:33:39.200
<v Speaker 3>serious theological trick critique against a church publication, the response well give</v>

01:33:39.200 --> 01:33:42.560
<v Speaker 3>you what the responses were, they were first, how dare you question</v>

01:33:43.040 --> 01:33:43.600
<v Speaker 3>the church?</v>

01:33:43.600 --> 01:33:45.120
<v Speaker 3>It went through doctrinal review.</v>

01:33:45.120 --> 01:33:47.280
<v Speaker 3>You guys can't possibly be right.</v>

01:33:47.280 --> 01:33:49.760
<v Speaker 3>And then they said, oh, you took it out of context.</v>

01:33:49.760 --> 01:33:52.000
<v Speaker 3>If you'd read the whole thing, you'd know that what we what</v>

01:33:52.000 --> 01:33:54.160
<v Speaker 3>we quoted was actually okay.</v>

01:33:54.160 --> 01:33:57.520
<v Speaker 3>That pedophilia is actually a sexuality, and if you read the whole</v>

01:33:57.520 --> 01:34:01.360
<v Speaker 3>essay, which is only like three pages, that's gonna be explained.</v>

01:34:01.360 --> 01:34:05.680
<v Speaker 3>No. We read the full essays in order to find those excerpts,</v>

01:34:05.680 --> 01:34:06.400
<v Speaker 3>all right?</v>

01:34:06.400 --> 01:34:09.200
<v Speaker 3>We didn't cherry pick, we distilled.</v>

01:34:09.200 --> 01:34:10.880
<v Speaker 3>There's a fundamental difference.</v>

01:34:10.880 --> 01:34:15.200
<v Speaker 3>Cherry picking is isolating one thing out of context to mislead.</v>

01:34:15.200 --> 01:34:20.000
<v Speaker 3>Distillation is saying here's three par here's here's three pages.</v>

01:34:20.000 --> 01:34:23.760
<v Speaker 3>This paragraph gives away their true intentions.</v>

01:34:23.760 --> 01:34:25.120
<v Speaker 3>That was distillation.</v>

01:34:25.120 --> 01:34:28.240
<v Speaker 3>That is fundamentally truthful.</v>

01:34:28.240 --> 01:34:31.040
<v Speaker 3>And the yet they would say, Well, you took it out of</v>

01:34:31.040 --> 01:34:33.680
<v Speaker 3>context. you, you're liars, you're deceiving.</v>

01:34:33.680 --> 01:34:36.000
<v Speaker 3>Once we read the whole thing, we'll understand it.</v>

01:34:36.000 --> 01:34:37.920
<v Speaker 3>We gotta pass the bill to know what's in the bill.</v>

01:34:37.920 --> 01:34:41.120
<v Speaker 3>I mean that was that basically amounted to most of the argument</v>

01:34:41.120 --> 01:34:45.120
<v Speaker 3>for shipping this book and not recalling it.</v>

01:34:45.120 --> 01:34:47.520
<v Speaker 3>And the last thing they did too was to go to ad</v>

01:34:47.680 --> 01:34:53.840
<v Speaker 3>hominem to ridicule Ryan for being anonymous, for being an anonymous coward,</v>

01:34:53.840 --> 01:34:56.080
<v Speaker 3>uh which is hilarious, because again, that's his name.</v>

01:34:56.080 --> 01:34:59.360
<v Speaker 3>And he had numerous pastors on multiple forums in public and in</v>

01:34:59.360 --> 01:35:04.080
<v Speaker 3>private attacking attacked him for being anonymous, as though that somehow discredited</v>

01:35:04.080 --> 01:35:06.400
<v Speaker 3>him. I'm pseudonymous.</v>

01:35:06.400 --> 01:35:07.920
<v Speaker 3>Am I discredited by that?</v>

01:35:07.920 --> 01:35:09.440
<v Speaker 3>Some men believe absolutely.</v>

01:35:09.440 --> 01:35:12.160
<v Speaker 3>There are men like Mer Larry Bean and Lyman Stone who will</v>

01:35:12.160 --> 01:35:17.760
<v Speaker 3>routinely say, if you do not put your name, your Christian name,</v>

01:35:17.760 --> 01:35:20.240
<v Speaker 3>to your Christian words, you are not a Christian.</v>

01:35:20.240 --> 01:35:21.520
<v Speaker 3>You are a false Christian.</v>

01:35:21.520 --> 01:35:22.560
<v Speaker 3>You are cowardly.</v>

01:35:22.560 --> 01:35:25.360
<v Speaker 3>You deny the faith by concealing your name.</v>

01:35:25.360 --> 01:35:30.400
<v Speaker 3>Well, isn't it interesting that in this very moment where pseudonymity is</v>

01:35:30.400 --> 01:35:33.520
<v Speaker 3>on one hand seen as evil, and on the other hand, the</v>

01:35:33.520 --> 01:35:36.880
<v Speaker 3>men who are not pseudonymous who use their Christian names, are being</v>

01:35:36.880 --> 01:35:40.240
<v Speaker 3>attacked in their own churches for the sake of their destruction.</v>

01:35:40.080 --> 01:35:42.880
<v Speaker 3>and again, for the sake of declaring that they're damned.</v>

01:35:42.880 --> 01:35:46.560
<v Speaker 3>When you excommunicate a man, that is applying the binding key.</v>

01:35:46.560 --> 01:35:50.400
<v Speaker 3>It is saying we have called you to repentance repeatedly, you refuse</v>

01:35:50.400 --> 01:35:52.480
<v Speaker 3>to repent of what we are calling a sin.</v>

01:35:52.480 --> 01:35:56.000
<v Speaker 3>We never we now declare to the whole world and in the</v>

01:35:56.000 --> 01:36:00.320
<v Speaker 3>name of God that you will spend eternity in hell if you</v>

01:36:00.320 --> 01:36:02.160
<v Speaker 3>do not repent in the future.</v>

01:36:02.160 --> 01:36:05.040
<v Speaker 3>That's what excommunication means in the Lutheran Church.</v>

01:36:05.040 --> 01:36:06.960
<v Speaker 3>It's not a small deal.</v>

01:36:07.120 --> 01:36:09.680
<v Speaker 3>And so for all these pastors to say that we should be</v>

01:36:09.680 --> 01:36:14.240
<v Speaker 3>brought under church discipline because we're anonymous and because we slandered the</v>

01:36:14.240 --> 01:36:18.320
<v Speaker 3>church and because we doubted doctrinal review is</v>

01:36:19.680 --> 01:36:22.800
<v Speaker 3>it's it's fundamentally evil and it's it's a profound evil that I've</v>

01:36:22.800 --> 01:36:24.960
<v Speaker 3>never personally witnessed in my own church.</v>

01:36:24.960 --> 01:36:26.960
<v Speaker 3>Uh I wish it were for the last time, but I think</v>

01:36:26.960 --> 01:36:28.160
<v Speaker 3>it's only going to ramp up.</v>

01:36:28.560 --> 01:36:32.240
<v Speaker 2>They're also doing the exact same thing that happens in the left-hand</v>

01:36:32.400 --> 01:36:36.320
<v Speaker 2>kingdom. If you speak up on many of these same related issues</v>

01:36:36.640 --> 01:36:43.520
<v Speaker 2>or nearly identical issues, closely related issues, people will call and harass</v>

01:36:43.520 --> 01:36:47.680
<v Speaker 2>your employer, your family members, anyone they can find to try to</v>

01:36:47.680 --> 01:36:49.200
<v Speaker 2>get you fired and ruin your life.</v>

01:36:49.200 --> 01:36:52.880
<v Speaker 2>That is their entire goal, and we're seeing the same thing being</v>

01:36:52.880 --> 01:36:58.000
<v Speaker 2>done by supposed Christians in the right hand kingdom.</v>

01:36:58.000 --> 01:36:58.960
<v Speaker 2>Because it's the same</v>

01:36:58.960 --> 01:37:02.560
<v Speaker 3>playbook. We have a friend through that to him that happened.</v>

01:37:02.560 --> 01:37:06.160
<v Speaker 3>He spoke out against this stuff a number of years ago in</v>

01:37:06.160 --> 01:37:07.200
<v Speaker 3>his local town.</v>

01:37:07.200 --> 01:37:10.000
<v Speaker 3>He had to leave town along with his family because the death</v>

01:37:10.000 --> 01:37:14.160
<v Speaker 3>threats and the the destruction of his personal character were so great</v>

01:37:14.160 --> 01:37:18.240
<v Speaker 3>that he felt that fleeing was his only chance for a fresh</v>

01:37:18.240 --> 01:37:21.760
<v Speaker 3>start. That is what these men seek against us.</v>

01:37:21.760 --> 01:37:25.440
<v Speaker 3>Now is that what God wants or is that what Satan wants?</v>

01:37:25.440 --> 01:37:26.640
<v Speaker 3>You make up your own mind.</v>

01:37:26.960 --> 01:37:30.080
<v Speaker 2>That is in fairness one of the reasons that I no longer</v>

01:37:30.080 --> 01:37:31.280
<v Speaker 2>live in California.</v>

01:37:31.280 --> 01:37:33.600
<v Speaker 2>I mean there are plenty of reasons to leave California, but that</v>

01:37:33.600 --> 01:37:35.760
<v Speaker 2>is certainly one of the considerations.</v>

01:37:35.840 --> 01:37:40.240
<v Speaker 2>Indeed. It is certainly safer to be honest about these issues while</v>

01:37:40.240 --> 01:37:41.440
<v Speaker 2>living in Tennessee.</v>

01:37:41.760 --> 01:37:43.440
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, very much so.</v>

01:37:44.400 --> 01:37:47.760
<v Speaker 3>The next tactic that was employed is a good tactic is one</v>

01:37:47.760 --> 01:37:49.040
<v Speaker 3>your people enjoy.</v>

01:37:49.040 --> 01:37:53.360
<v Speaker 3>Well, is we've seen from Facebook and the forums and Twitter and</v>

01:37:53.360 --> 01:37:58.400
<v Speaker 3>elsewhere, these people love calling us names and ridiculing us.</v>

01:37:58.400 --> 01:38:01.200
<v Speaker 3>None of them address the substance of our arguments.</v>

01:38:01.200 --> 01:38:04.480
<v Speaker 3>They called us racists, they called us Nazis, they called I don't</v>

01:38:04.400 --> 01:38:06.720
<v Speaker 3>know if they called us homophobes, but it it's all the same</v>

01:38:06.720 --> 01:38:12.400
<v Speaker 3>package. That cluster of slanderous terms all go together.</v>

01:38:12.400 --> 01:38:15.360
<v Speaker 3>And the reason that we're hearing it in the church we're told</v>

01:38:15.440 --> 01:38:18.240
<v Speaker 3>it's because, well, that's Christian morality, obviously.</v>

01:38:18.240 --> 01:38:20.800
<v Speaker 3>You can't be any of those things or you're not a Christian.</v>

01:38:20.800 --> 01:38:22.960
<v Speaker 3>How is it that no one ever talked like that a hundred</v>

01:38:23.040 --> 01:38:23.920
<v Speaker 3>years ago?</v>

01:38:23.920 --> 01:38:25.200
<v Speaker 3>I'll tell you how.</v>

01:38:25.200 --> 01:38:29.840
<v Speaker 3>It's because Satan began using those things in the world, and these</v>

01:38:29.840 --> 01:38:34.640
<v Speaker 3>men who are participants in co-opted institutions have brought these things into</v>

01:38:34.640 --> 01:38:36.000
<v Speaker 3>Christ bride.</v>

01:38:36.000 --> 01:38:39.440
<v Speaker 3>They're using them against Christians in the name of Satan.</v>

01:38:39.440 --> 01:38:41.920
<v Speaker 3>They're speaking the teachings of demons among us</v>

01:38:42.800 --> 01:38:45.920
<v Speaker 3>and discernment of that is vital.</v>

01:38:45.920 --> 01:38:47.920
<v Speaker 3>We're not saying this in self-defense.</v>

01:38:47.920 --> 01:38:52.640
<v Speaker 3>I don't care if if man judges me harshly, whatever.</v>

01:38:52.960 --> 01:38:55.520
<v Speaker 3>The question is, are we being faithful to God?</v>

01:38:55.520 --> 01:38:58.480
<v Speaker 3>And the fact that this destruction is falling on us is simply</v>

01:38:58.480 --> 01:39:00.320
<v Speaker 3>because we happen to be the first to know and the first</v>

01:39:00.320 --> 01:39:02.240
<v Speaker 3>to speak up, which is, you know what?</v>

01:39:02.240 --> 01:39:04.720
<v Speaker 3>It's why we're doing this podcast, is why we began it.</v>

01:39:04.720 --> 01:39:07.440
<v Speaker 3>And it's why we will continue to double down and double down</v>

01:39:07.440 --> 01:39:11.920
<v Speaker 3>again. Because the harder these men push and the more they scream,</v>

01:39:11.920 --> 01:39:16.160
<v Speaker 3>the greater incentive there is for us to be faithful voices in</v>

01:39:16.160 --> 01:39:19.120
<v Speaker 3>an environment where most men are afraid to, even if they know</v>

01:39:19.200 --> 01:39:21.920
<v Speaker 3>the truth, they're afraid to speak.</v>

01:39:21.920 --> 01:39:24.160
<v Speaker 3>Ridiculing me is not gonna do any good.</v>

01:39:24.800 --> 01:39:27.200
<v Speaker 3>ridiculing Corey is not gonna do any good.</v>

01:39:27.200 --> 01:39:30.320
<v Speaker 3>There's nothing you could possibly say that we haven't heard before.</v>

01:39:30.320 --> 01:39:31.360
<v Speaker 3>We don't care.</v>

01:39:31.360 --> 01:39:32.800
<v Speaker 3>We d we just laugh.</v>

01:39:32.800 --> 01:39:36.160
<v Speaker 3>It makes you look silly, it doesn't make us look bad.</v>

01:39:36.160 --> 01:39:40.080
<v Speaker 3>But it's clear that you're following Alinsky's rules and enjoying it, so</v>

01:39:40.080 --> 01:39:41.920
<v Speaker 3>keep on enjoying it.</v>

01:39:42.320 --> 01:39:46.160
<v Speaker 3>Flowing right along, the next one, keep the pressure on, never let</v>

01:39:46.160 --> 01:39:48.800
<v Speaker 3>up. That's been consistent since day one.</v>

01:39:48.800 --> 01:39:53.360
<v Speaker 3>They immediately began to attacking the messenger rather than even considering the</v>

01:39:53.360 --> 01:39:58.480
<v Speaker 3>substance of the message, because they had a preordained decision that whatever</v>

01:39:58.480 --> 01:40:02.560
<v Speaker 3>Synod did has to be good or Synod wouldn't have done it.</v>

01:40:02.560 --> 01:40:04.480
<v Speaker 3>Think about the circularity of that.</v>

01:40:04.480 --> 01:40:07.280
<v Speaker 3>How is that not Roman Catholicism?</v>

01:40:07.280 --> 01:40:10.560
<v Speaker 3>If the magisterium says it it must be true.</v>

01:40:10.560 --> 01:40:15.200
<v Speaker 3>Okay, like if that's where Lutheranism is gonna be, why shouldn't I</v>

01:40:15.200 --> 01:40:16.480
<v Speaker 3>just be Roman Catholic?</v>

01:40:16.480 --> 01:40:20.240
<v Speaker 3>They dress better, they have a cooler claim on history, it's mostly</v>

01:40:20.240 --> 01:40:23.520
<v Speaker 3>nonsense, but if we're lying, why not tell the best lie we</v>

01:40:23.520 --> 01:40:27.280
<v Speaker 3>can? We have a crappy lie, Lutherans, if if it were a</v>

01:40:27.280 --> 01:40:31.680
<v Speaker 3>lie, except it's the truth until lately.</v>

01:40:32.000 --> 01:40:36.240
<v Speaker 3>The next Alinsky rule, the threat is usually more terrifying than the</v>

01:40:36.240 --> 01:40:37.120
<v Speaker 3>thing itself.</v>

01:40:37.120 --> 01:40:38.000
<v Speaker 3>And they know that.</v>

01:40:38.000 --> 01:40:41.680
<v Speaker 3>These guys know that threatening to dox us, threatening to bring us</v>

01:40:41.680 --> 01:40:45.120
<v Speaker 3>on well, you can't bring a layman up on false doctrine charges,</v>

01:40:45.120 --> 01:40:49.440
<v Speaker 3>but you can have his pastor and his elders determine whether or</v>

01:40:49.440 --> 01:40:53.280
<v Speaker 3>not the congregation should should choose to expel him or to place</v>

01:40:53.280 --> 01:40:56.720
<v Speaker 3>him under a lesser ban where we would be denied communion, we</v>

01:40:56.720 --> 01:41:00.240
<v Speaker 3>would be denied the body and blood of Christ to tell us</v>

01:41:00.240 --> 01:41:02.160
<v Speaker 3>that our sins are unforgiven.</v>

01:41:02.160 --> 01:41:03.440
<v Speaker 3>What sin would that be?</v>

01:41:03.440 --> 01:41:06.320
<v Speaker 3>The sin of saying the same thing that God says about the</v>

01:41:06.320 --> 01:41:09.280
<v Speaker 3>Ten Commandments and these other teachings.</v>

01:41:09.280 --> 01:41:13.040
<v Speaker 3>When a man comes to you and demands that you confess a</v>

01:41:13.040 --> 01:41:18.480
<v Speaker 3>false sin, he is commanding you to confess a false God.</v>

01:41:18.480 --> 01:41:20.080
<v Speaker 3>I want to be explicit about that.</v>

01:41:20.080 --> 01:41:24.240
<v Speaker 3>There's no such thing as confessing a false sin to God.</v>

01:41:24.240 --> 01:41:27.920
<v Speaker 3>If we were to confess the things that they demand we confess,</v>

01:41:27.920 --> 01:41:31.920
<v Speaker 3>we would be blaspheming, we would be violating all the commandments, particularly</v>

01:41:31.920 --> 01:41:34.400
<v Speaker 3>the first one, by denying our own Creator.</v>

01:41:34.400 --> 01:41:37.440
<v Speaker 3>If you think that we're going to repent for doing that which</v>

01:41:37.440 --> 01:41:42.640
<v Speaker 3>we are compelled by conscience to do, watch what happens next.</v>

01:41:42.960 --> 01:41:44.720
<v Speaker 3>And so they're trying to threaten.</v>

01:41:44.720 --> 01:41:48.240
<v Speaker 3>They're using Alinsky's rules to threaten because they hope they don't care</v>

01:41:48.240 --> 01:41:49.040
<v Speaker 3>if we repent.</v>

01:41:49.200 --> 01:41:51.280
<v Speaker 3>they're not interested in our souls.</v>

01:41:51.280 --> 01:41:54.320
<v Speaker 3>They're kid interested in silencing their enemies.</v>

01:41:54.320 --> 01:41:59.520
<v Speaker 3>They're interested in silencing the small handful of laymen who will go</v>

01:41:59.520 --> 01:42:05.200
<v Speaker 3>head to head with evil, even when the evil is institutional.</v>

01:42:05.200 --> 01:42:06.960
<v Speaker 3>Beyond that, what do they have?</v>

01:42:06.960 --> 01:42:11.280
<v Speaker 3>The very worst case for me personally is that I'm doxxed.</v>

01:42:11.280 --> 01:42:12.880
<v Speaker 3>I face death threats.</v>

01:42:12.880 --> 01:42:15.920
<v Speaker 3>I face threats in my community, maybe.</v>

01:42:16.240 --> 01:42:20.080
<v Speaker 3>Whatever. In the church, the worst threat would be that if my</v>

01:42:20.080 --> 01:42:24.640
<v Speaker 3>congregation were to were to willingly command me to repent of a</v>

01:42:24.640 --> 01:42:28.720
<v Speaker 3>false sin and I refused, I would be excommunicated.</v>

01:42:28.720 --> 01:42:31.680
<v Speaker 3>Do you think I'm gonna stop coming to church just because my</v>

01:42:31.680 --> 01:42:34.320
<v Speaker 3>church made a false confession and kicked me out?</v>

01:42:34.320 --> 01:42:37.760
<v Speaker 3>No. I'm not gonna go up to communion, obviously, because not only</v>

01:42:37.760 --> 01:42:41.040
<v Speaker 3>would it be a violation of the</v>

01:42:42.560 --> 01:42:47.120
<v Speaker 3>congregation's sanctity, but it would be a false confession because any congregation</v>

01:42:47.200 --> 01:42:51.280
<v Speaker 3>they would excommunicate me for my words and actions is a congregation</v>

01:42:51.280 --> 01:42:53.120
<v Speaker 3>with whom I do not have fellowship.</v>

01:42:53.120 --> 01:42:56.800
<v Speaker 3>Nevertheless, if it's my only opportunity to hear the word of God</v>

01:42:56.800 --> 01:42:59.200
<v Speaker 3>preached well, that's where I'm gonna go.</v>

01:42:59.200 --> 01:43:03.200
<v Speaker 3>So the worst that you can possibly do to me, apart from</v>

01:43:03.200 --> 01:43:06.960
<v Speaker 3>letting people know that I'm evil and should be murdered, is to</v>

01:43:06.960 --> 01:43:09.920
<v Speaker 3>deny me communion for the rest of my life.</v>

01:43:10.400 --> 01:43:11.760
<v Speaker 3>I hope that doesn't happen.</v>

01:43:11.760 --> 01:43:13.600
<v Speaker 3>If it happens, I'm prepared for it.</v>

01:43:13.600 --> 01:43:17.760
<v Speaker 3>The Siberian Lutheran Church there were entire generations that went without communion.</v>

01:43:17.760 --> 01:43:20.720
<v Speaker 3>As a Christian I understand that the body and blood of Christ</v>

01:43:20.720 --> 01:43:24.640
<v Speaker 3>is to be desired for the forgiveness that it provides and the</v>

01:43:24.640 --> 01:43:26.160
<v Speaker 3>comfort that it provides.</v>

01:43:26.160 --> 01:43:28.080
<v Speaker 3>I am equally forgiven in baptism.</v>

01:43:28.080 --> 01:43:31.120
<v Speaker 3>I am equally forgiven in hearing the word.</v>

01:43:31.120 --> 01:43:34.080
<v Speaker 3>There is nothing that they can deprive me of except for a</v>

01:43:34.080 --> 01:43:36.720
<v Speaker 3>name which is an attack on God's name.</v>

01:43:36.720 --> 01:43:37.040
<v Speaker 3>So</v>

01:43:38.320 --> 01:43:41.520
<v Speaker 3>the the reason we're framing this in terms of Velinsky's rules is</v>

01:43:41.520 --> 01:43:43.280
<v Speaker 3>that it goes right down the list.</v>

01:43:43.280 --> 01:43:46.560
<v Speaker 3>These attacks, again, they they won't talk doctrine.</v>

01:43:46.560 --> 01:43:48.960
<v Speaker 3>They want to talk about the men, and they don't even want</v>

01:43:48.960 --> 01:43:50.160
<v Speaker 3>to talk about the men.</v>

01:43:50.160 --> 01:43:53.040
<v Speaker 3>They want to point to us and say to everyone else, get</v>

01:43:53.200 --> 01:43:54.080
<v Speaker 3>'em. They're bad.</v>

01:43:54.080 --> 01:43:54.800
<v Speaker 3>They're bad guys.</v>

01:43:54.800 --> 01:43:55.360
<v Speaker 3>Get 'em</v>

01:43:56.000 --> 01:43:59.280
<v Speaker 2>Not only are they j going down the rules, if you actually</v>

01:43:59.280 --> 01:44:01.280
<v Speaker 2>read the book, and it's not that long of a book, it's</v>

01:44:01.280 --> 01:44:03.760
<v Speaker 2>two hundred pages or something.</v>

01:44:03.760 --> 01:44:07.440
<v Speaker 2>All of the examples and the details and things that are in</v>

01:44:07.440 --> 01:44:09.360
<v Speaker 2>the book, they're using them as well.</v>

01:44:09.360 --> 01:44:11.600
<v Speaker 2>There's just a quick quote I want to read here.</v>

01:44:11.600 --> 01:44:15.520
<v Speaker 2>And I guess this is our there's one naughty word in here,</v>

01:44:15.520 --> 01:44:17.840
<v Speaker 2>so language warning if someone is listening to this with their children</v>

01:44:17.920 --> 01:44:20.160
<v Speaker 2>as I know some are.</v>

01:44:20.160 --> 01:44:24.080
<v Speaker 2>Can you imagine in the arena of conflict charging that so and</v>

01:44:24.160 --> 01:44:27.440
<v Speaker 2>so is a racist bastard, and then diluting the impact of the</v>

01:44:27.440 --> 01:44:30.640
<v Speaker 2>attack with qualifying remarks such as he is a good church going</v>

01:44:30.720 --> 01:44:33.120
<v Speaker 2>man, generous to charity and a good husband.</v>

01:44:33.120 --> 01:44:37.920
<v Speaker 2>This becomes political idiocy, and we see that happening with anyone who</v>

01:44:37.920 --> 01:44:41.600
<v Speaker 2>opposes these adversary pastors.</v>

01:44:41.600 --> 01:44:44.480
<v Speaker 2>All of a sudden you are an arch fiend.</v>

01:44:44.640 --> 01:44:46.160
<v Speaker 2>There is nothing good about you.</v>

01:44:46.160 --> 01:44:47.520
<v Speaker 2>It doesn't matter what else you do.</v>

01:44:47.520 --> 01:44:51.040
<v Speaker 2>You can be someone who attends every service at your church, constantly</v>

01:44:51.200 --> 01:44:56.880
<v Speaker 2>volunteers, does all of these good works, and they are in fact</v>

01:44:57.040 --> 01:44:58.320
<v Speaker 2>good works.</v>

01:44:58.320 --> 01:45:01.280
<v Speaker 2>But the only thing that matters is that you've opposed them on</v>

01:45:01.280 --> 01:45:04.560
<v Speaker 2>this one thing, and so you are the most evil man ever</v>

01:45:04.560 --> 01:45:06.000
<v Speaker 2>to exist.</v>

01:45:06.000 --> 01:45:09.440
<v Speaker 2>And we want to be very clear, we are not saying that</v>

01:45:09.440 --> 01:45:12.320
<v Speaker 2>sort of thing about the adversaries.</v>

01:45:12.320 --> 01:45:18.080
<v Speaker 2>Many of them do many good things, particularly the unwitting pastors who</v>

01:45:18.080 --> 01:45:22.800
<v Speaker 2>are using this playbook without knowing they're using the playbook.</v>

01:45:22.800 --> 01:45:26.320
<v Speaker 2>Most of what they're doing in their congregations in their daily lives</v>

01:45:26.640 --> 01:45:30.160
<v Speaker 2>probably good, probably in line with what God wants.</v>

01:45:30.160 --> 01:45:33.600
<v Speaker 2>We are seeking to correct the error they are making because they</v>

01:45:33.600 --> 01:45:37.200
<v Speaker 2>are speaking with the voice of Satan when they make that error.</v>

01:45:37.200 --> 01:45:40.640
<v Speaker 2>And that is in contrast with what is being done to those</v>

01:45:40.640 --> 01:45:45.280
<v Speaker 2>of us on this side who are apparently one hundred percent evil</v>

01:45:45.360 --> 01:45:50.000
<v Speaker 2>because we disagree on something, because we're defending the word of God.</v>

01:45:50.160 --> 01:45:50.400
And

01:45:50.400 --> 01:45:54.240
<v Speaker 3>that flows into the next Dolinsky rule that's being employed here.</v>

01:45:54.240 --> 01:45:58.480
<v Speaker 3>The major premise for tactics is the development of operations that will</v>

01:45:58.480 --> 01:46:02.480
<v Speaker 3>maintain a constant pressure upon the opposition.</v>

01:46:02.480 --> 01:46:05.760
<v Speaker 3>Now, as we've just described to you accurately what has happened in</v>

01:46:05.760 --> 01:46:10.080
<v Speaker 3>the last couple of weeks, imagine what a signal that sends to</v>

01:46:10.080 --> 01:46:16.080
<v Speaker 3>other laymen or pastors in the Missouri Synod or related synods who</v>

01:46:16.080 --> 01:46:18.640
<v Speaker 3>would also be concerned?</v>

01:46:18.640 --> 01:46:24.240
<v Speaker 3>If they succeed in getting us excommunicated, if they succeed in getting</v>

01:46:24.240 --> 01:46:30.320
<v Speaker 3>the Missouri Synod to attack a layman speaking against false doctrine in</v>

01:46:30.320 --> 01:46:33.760
<v Speaker 3>the church, think about the chilling effect that that will have on</v>

01:46:33.760 --> 01:46:35.040
<v Speaker 3>the church as a whole.</v>

01:46:35.040 --> 01:46:40.400
<v Speaker 3>What will happen the next time the ratchet moves and someone notices</v>

01:46:40.880 --> 01:46:44.240
<v Speaker 3>if we're not in play, which will only happen if God calls</v>

01:46:44.240 --> 01:46:47.120
<v Speaker 3>us home, because as long as we draw breath, we're gonna do</v>

01:46:47.120 --> 01:46:48.560
<v Speaker 3>this harder and harder.</v>

01:46:48.560 --> 01:46:51.280
<v Speaker 3>So you guys should have tried to co-opt us a year ago</v>

01:46:51.280 --> 01:46:52.240
<v Speaker 3>and been nicer.</v>

01:46:52.240 --> 01:46:55.920
<v Speaker 3>The fact that you picked us out as enemies has animated the</v>

01:46:55.920 --> 01:47:00.720
<v Speaker 3>very energy that you now are threatened with.</v>

01:47:00.720 --> 01:47:05.200
<v Speaker 3>The constant pressure that Alinsky is talking about is this constant pressure.</v>

01:47:05.200 --> 01:47:10.960
<v Speaker 3>It's not simply the activities of doxing and threatening decks communicate.</v>

01:47:10.960 --> 01:47:14.720
<v Speaker 3>It's the knowledge, the persistent knowledge that will remain in our church</v>

01:47:14.720 --> 01:47:18.240
<v Speaker 3>body for the foreseeable future, that this is what the immune system,</v>

01:47:18.240 --> 01:47:21.840
<v Speaker 3>the Missouri Synod, does when laymen speak up.</v>

01:47:21.840 --> 01:47:26.640
<v Speaker 3>Even if we were wrong about the things there, if the opposition</v>

01:47:26.640 --> 01:47:30.240
<v Speaker 3>to someone who speaks about doctrine and gets something wrong is that</v>

01:47:30.240 --> 01:47:37.360
<v Speaker 3>they're destroyed on contact, if that's the response of this church, who</v>

01:47:37.360 --> 01:47:38.960
<v Speaker 3>else is gonna speak up?</v>

01:47:38.960 --> 01:47:40.960
<v Speaker 3>Not many men, I can tell you that.</v>

01:47:40.960 --> 01:47:44.960
<v Speaker 3>Most men can't afford to, and most men don't have the constitution</v>

01:47:44.960 --> 01:47:49.760
<v Speaker 3>to withstand the degree of slander and hatred that is directed against</v>

01:47:49.760 --> 01:47:52.560
<v Speaker 3>us. God has equipped us so that we find it kind of</v>

01:47:52.560 --> 01:47:53.520
<v Speaker 3>funny most of the time.</v>

01:47:53.920 --> 01:47:57.200
<v Speaker 3>it's sad that these men are nailing Christ to the cross with</v>

01:47:57.200 --> 01:48:00.160
<v Speaker 3>every tweet that they give and every word that they say in</v>

01:48:00.160 --> 01:48:03.440
<v Speaker 3>the secret, directing men to destroy us.</v>

01:48:03.440 --> 01:48:04.480
<v Speaker 3>That's tragic.</v>

01:48:04.480 --> 01:48:07.760
<v Speaker 3>But for our own sakes it's just his funny because the lies</v>

01:48:07.760 --> 01:48:11.200
<v Speaker 3>are so far from the truth that it's it's it's not even</v>

01:48:11.200 --> 01:48:11.760
<v Speaker 3>a parody.</v>

01:48:11.840 --> 01:48:15.680
<v Speaker 3>It there's no there's no comparison of the true man and the</v>

01:48:15.680 --> 01:48:19.920
<v Speaker 3>false slandered version that the world is given.</v>

01:48:19.920 --> 01:48:23.520
<v Speaker 3>And the last rule is is really the the sum of all</v>

01:48:23.520 --> 01:48:24.160
<v Speaker 3>of them.</v>

01:48:24.160 --> 01:48:28.880
<v Speaker 3>Pick the target, freeze it, personalize it, and polarize it.</v>

01:48:28.880 --> 01:48:31.040
<v Speaker 3>That's precisely what's what's been happening.</v>

01:48:31.040 --> 01:48:34.800
<v Speaker 3>And it's interesting they've gone after Ryan Turnipseed, even harder than the</v>

01:48:34.800 --> 01:48:37.840
<v Speaker 3>rest of us, principally because his name was attached to it, but</v>

01:48:37.840 --> 01:48:39.920
<v Speaker 3>I think also because he's a young man and they think they</v>

01:48:39.920 --> 01:48:40.880
<v Speaker 3>can bully him.</v>

01:48:40.880 --> 01:48:44.320
<v Speaker 3>They're in for a rude awakening because he's younger than either of</v>

01:48:44.320 --> 01:48:46.960
<v Speaker 3>us, but he is incredibly brilliant.</v>

01:48:46.960 --> 01:48:47.600
<v Speaker 3>He has</v>

01:48:49.120 --> 01:48:53.760
<v Speaker 3>he has incredible fortitude and he's not going anywhere.</v>

01:48:53.760 --> 01:48:56.160
<v Speaker 3>Now I don't know what's gonna happen in the future of our</v>

01:48:56.160 --> 01:49:00.080
<v Speaker 3>church, but in terms of him being a voice within Christianity and</v>

01:49:00.080 --> 01:49:03.440
<v Speaker 3>fighting for the truth and fighting for the faith, he's gonna be</v>

01:49:03.440 --> 01:49:04.400
<v Speaker 3>around longer than us.</v>

01:49:04.640 --> 01:49:08.800
<v Speaker 3>And if you think that galvanizing him with slander is gonna chase</v>

01:49:08.800 --> 01:49:12.640
<v Speaker 3>him off, you're gonna regret the next seventy years or so because</v>

01:49:12.800 --> 01:49:15.600
<v Speaker 3>it's not us who's suffering, it's going to be you.</v>

01:49:15.600 --> 01:49:19.280
<v Speaker 3>And the difference is that while you seek our suffering for the</v>

01:49:19.280 --> 01:49:24.080
<v Speaker 3>sake of the gospel, we simply seek for your evil to cease</v>

01:49:24.160 --> 01:49:28.320
<v Speaker 3>to abate, for the teachings of demons to cease to be present</v>

01:49:28.320 --> 01:49:30.400
<v Speaker 3>in our churches.</v>

01:49:31.600 --> 01:49:35.520
<v Speaker 3>So to close this out, I want to read from the Beatitudes.</v>

01:49:35.520 --> 01:49:37.920
<v Speaker 3>Uh it's interesting when you look at the structure of them, there</v>

01:49:38.240 --> 01:49:41.440
<v Speaker 3>are nine blessed R statements.</v>

01:49:41.440 --> 01:49:45.760
<v Speaker 3>The first seven have to do with the qualities of the people</v>

01:49:46.080 --> 01:49:48.160
<v Speaker 3>about whom Christ is speaking.</v>

01:49:48.160 --> 01:49:51.600
<v Speaker 3>So the meek those, you know, it's he's speaking about what is</v>

01:49:51.600 --> 01:49:54.720
<v Speaker 3>inherent to the person, what they are doing in their lives and</v>

01:49:54.720 --> 01:49:57.600
<v Speaker 3>in their communities, how they handle themselves.</v>

01:49:57.600 --> 01:50:02.080
<v Speaker 3>The last two beatitudes are different in this particular way.</v>

01:50:02.080 --> 01:50:06.480
<v Speaker 3>The last two blessed Rs have to do with how other men</v>

01:50:06.640 --> 01:50:09.680
<v Speaker 3>treat those whom God says are blessed.</v>

01:50:09.680 --> 01:50:12.560
<v Speaker 3>So I'll read them now and then just briefly put them in</v>

01:50:12.560 --> 01:50:18.480
<v Speaker 3>context. Blessed are those who are persecuted for righteousness' sake, for theirs</v>

01:50:18.480 --> 01:50:20.400
<v Speaker 3>is the kingdom of heaven.</v>

01:50:20.400 --> 01:50:23.920
<v Speaker 3>Blessed are you when others revile you and persecute you and utter</v>

01:50:23.920 --> 01:50:28.320
<v Speaker 3>all kinds of evil against you falsely on my account.</v>

01:50:28.320 --> 01:50:32.480
<v Speaker 3>Rejoice and be glad, for your reward is great in heaven, for</v>

01:50:32.480 --> 01:50:36.320
<v Speaker 3>so they persecuted the prophets who were before you.</v>

01:50:36.320 --> 01:50:39.760
<v Speaker 3>Now the reason we're closing out with that is not simply to</v>

01:50:39.760 --> 01:50:43.600
<v Speaker 3>make an appeal that we're the persecuted, although I think that if</v>

01:50:43.600 --> 01:50:47.840
<v Speaker 3>you believe the context we've provided here, there's no other conclusion This</v>

01:50:47.840 --> 01:50:53.120
<v Speaker 3>is an example Jesus is giving of Satan's playbook.</v>

01:50:53.120 --> 01:50:57.680
<v Speaker 3>The fact that reviling and uttering all kinds of evil falsely against</v>

01:50:57.680 --> 01:51:02.480
<v Speaker 3>someone for the sake of Christ, Jesus didn't mention that flippantly.</v>

01:51:02.480 --> 01:51:03.840
<v Speaker 3>It wasn't something random.</v>

01:51:03.840 --> 01:51:06.400
<v Speaker 3>It wasn't like, oh, I guess number nine, I need to round</v>

01:51:06.400 --> 01:51:07.520
<v Speaker 3>it up.</v>

01:51:07.520 --> 01:51:11.360
<v Speaker 3>And he even mentioned the prophets received the same treatment.</v>

01:51:11.360 --> 01:51:13.200
<v Speaker 3>Why did they receive that treatment?</v>

01:51:13.200 --> 01:51:17.840
<v Speaker 3>Because the prophets spoke the word of God among the people, both</v>

01:51:17.840 --> 01:51:22.480
<v Speaker 3>believers and unbelievers, and they were hated, not because they weren't nice,</v>

01:51:22.480 --> 01:51:25.280
<v Speaker 3>not because they weren't good looking, not because they weren't popular, they</v>

01:51:25.360 --> 01:51:28.000
<v Speaker 3>were hated because they spoke the word of God.</v>

01:51:28.000 --> 01:51:32.640
<v Speaker 3>It is an eternal truth that wherever Satan's animating force is in</v>

01:51:32.640 --> 01:51:36.640
<v Speaker 3>the hearts of men, those who speak the word of God will</v>

01:51:36.640 --> 01:51:37.840
<v Speaker 3>be hated.</v>

01:51:37.840 --> 01:51:41.040
<v Speaker 3>They will be hated to the point that they were reviled and</v>

01:51:41.040 --> 01:51:44.160
<v Speaker 3>slandered ceaselessly in public.</v>

01:51:44.160 --> 01:51:45.760
<v Speaker 3>Jesus promised that.</v>

01:51:45.760 --> 01:51:49.760
<v Speaker 3>This is a blessing tied to a prophecy, which is is what</v>

01:51:49.760 --> 01:51:51.120
<v Speaker 3>makes it different from the others.</v>

01:51:51.120 --> 01:51:52.240
<v Speaker 3>The others weren't prophetic.</v>

01:51:52.240 --> 01:51:55.200
<v Speaker 3>They were saying, you're blessed because of these gifts that I have</v>

01:51:55.200 --> 01:51:56.800
<v Speaker 3>given you inherently.</v>

01:51:56.800 --> 01:52:00.080
<v Speaker 3>These are blessings for what is going to come to those who</v>

01:52:00.080 --> 01:52:01.280
<v Speaker 3>obey God.</v>

01:52:01.280 --> 01:52:06.640
<v Speaker 3>Jesus prophesied and also spoke in in history, whenever a man speaks</v>

01:52:06.640 --> 01:52:11.040
<v Speaker 3>faithfully, all kinds of evil will be uttered against him for the</v>

01:52:11.040 --> 01:52:12.400
<v Speaker 3>sake of God.</v>

01:52:12.400 --> 01:52:16.720
<v Speaker 3>None of these adversary pastors who hate us with a fire of</v>

01:52:16.720 --> 01:52:19.920
<v Speaker 3>a thousand sons, do so because they think that they they don't</v>

01:52:19.840 --> 01:52:21.840
<v Speaker 3>like us personally.</v>

01:52:21.840 --> 01:52:25.360
<v Speaker 3>They hate that there are men in the church to day who</v>

01:52:25.360 --> 01:52:29.920
<v Speaker 3>will unflinchingly speak the word of God in their presence and against</v>

01:52:29.920 --> 01:52:31.120
<v Speaker 3>their words.</v>

01:52:31.120 --> 01:52:33.520
<v Speaker 3>And we didn't even target them this time.</v>

01:52:33.520 --> 01:52:36.800
<v Speaker 3>And when I say target, I mean speak against their lies.</v>

01:52:36.800 --> 01:52:40.880
<v Speaker 3>We are speaking against the lies that the Missouri Synod published.</v>

01:52:40.880 --> 01:52:44.080
<v Speaker 3>And yet they lies rise to its defense, and they do it</v>

01:52:44.080 --> 01:52:48.640
<v Speaker 3>with the same slander that Jesus would come to his faithful.</v>

01:52:48.640 --> 01:52:51.360
<v Speaker 3>All we can do is rejoice and thank God.</v>

01:52:51.360 --> 01:52:54.880
<v Speaker 3>But for the context of what can be done to save the</v>

01:52:54.880 --> 01:52:58.480
<v Speaker 3>church, not only the Lutheran Church Missouri Synod, but all of our</v>

01:52:58.480 --> 01:53:03.520
<v Speaker 3>churches, because again, every denomination is undergoing these same attacks, using the</v>

01:53:03.520 --> 01:53:06.400
<v Speaker 3>same tricks and the same playbook, and it's going to have the</v>

01:53:06.400 --> 01:53:07.280
<v Speaker 3>same results.</v>

01:53:07.280 --> 01:53:11.280
<v Speaker 3>There will be a faithful remnant who will speak up and in</v>

01:53:11.280 --> 01:53:15.120
<v Speaker 3>some cases be destroyed and driven out, and there will be those</v>

01:53:15.120 --> 01:53:19.040
<v Speaker 3>who seek to their destruction because they ultimately served Satan.</v>

01:53:19.040 --> 01:53:22.320
<v Speaker 3>And regardless of what's in their hearts, as they're doing the driving</v>

01:53:22.320 --> 01:53:25.280
<v Speaker 3>out of the faithful men for the sake of God.</v>

01:53:25.280 --> 01:53:28.000
<v Speaker 3>In the end, when you've driven out the faithful men, all you</v>

01:53:28.000 --> 01:53:32.400
<v Speaker 3>have left are those who cannot tell the difference between the teachings</v>

01:53:32.400 --> 01:53:35.280
<v Speaker 3>of demons and the voice of God.</v>

01:53:35.280 --> 01:53:38.960
<v Speaker 3>And those who hear the voice of their master will respond to</v>

01:53:38.960 --> 01:53:42.720
<v Speaker 3>his words with thanksgiving and faithfulness and repentance.</v>

01:53:42.720 --> 01:53:46.720
<v Speaker 3>And those who don't hear his voice and recognize it will naturally</v>

01:53:46.720 --> 01:53:49.440
<v Speaker 3>respond with howls of rage.</v>

01:53:49.440 --> 01:53:52.640
<v Speaker 3>And as we see these things play out in our church, pay</v>

01:53:52.640 --> 01:53:54.800
<v Speaker 3>attention to those two sides.</v>

01:53:54.800 --> 01:53:58.560
<v Speaker 3>Who is speaking as God speaks and what is the response?</v>

01:53:58.560 --> 01:54:00.400
<v Speaker 3>Are those who respond faithfully?</v>

01:54:00.400 --> 01:54:01.760
<v Speaker 3>Are those who hate?</v>

01:54:01.760 --> 01:54:04.000
<v Speaker 3>If they hate, do they hate in the same way that the</v>

01:54:04.000 --> 01:54:04.880
<v Speaker 3>world hates?</v>

01:54:04.880 --> 01:54:06.960
<v Speaker 3>Do they hate with Satan's playbook?</v>

01:54:06.960 --> 01:54:10.480
<v Speaker 3>Do you see the same thing playing out again for the fiftieth</v>

01:54:10.480 --> 01:54:13.600
<v Speaker 3>time? If that's happening, why is it happening?</v>

01:54:13.600 --> 01:54:15.360
<v Speaker 3>This is an eternal playbook.</v>

01:54:15.360 --> 01:54:16.560
<v Speaker 3>Well, not eternal, it's created</v>

01:54:17.440 --> 01:54:21.600
<v Speaker 3>in Satan's mind as a creature, a twisted creature, who seeks for</v>

01:54:21.600 --> 01:54:24.880
<v Speaker 3>all of creation to join him in rebellion against God.</v>

01:54:24.880 --> 01:54:28.400
<v Speaker 3>By God's grace, none of us are going to rebel against God.</v>

01:54:28.480 --> 01:54:32.560
<v Speaker 3>And if that means faithfulness in the face of persecution within our</v>

01:54:32.560 --> 01:54:37.360
<v Speaker 3>own church bodies, then we will rejoice for that blessing too.</v>

01:54:38.000 --> 01:54:38.160
And

01:54:38.160 --> 01:54:42.320
<v Speaker 2>it just brings to mind one additional scripture verse I think will</v>

01:54:42.400 --> 01:54:48.400
<v Speaker 2>close with Joshua chapter twenty four and if it is evil in</v>

01:54:48.400 --> 01:54:51.760
<v Speaker 2>your eyes to serve the Lord, choose you this day whom you</v>

01:54:51.760 --> 01:54:52.800
<v Speaker 2>will serve.</v>

01:54:52.800 --> 01:54:56.080
<v Speaker 2>Whether the gods of the academy that has been co opted, or</v>

01:54:56.080 --> 01:54:59.120
<v Speaker 2>the gods of the wicked state that now rules over you.</v>

01:54:59.120 --> 01:55:05.360
<v Speaker 2>But as for me and my house, we will serve the Lord.</v>

01:55:05.360 --> 01:55:06.560
<v Speaker 2>Amen.</v>